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Jason and Steve breakdown a play from Game 1 of the World Series that is going to break the internet; they tell you why this is going to be a Series we talk about for 30 years...and we react to one of the greatest endings to a World Series ever with MLB Insider Jon Paul Morosi!

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love baseball? Oh my goodness. So let's tell you where

(00:55):
things are at right now? Game one of the World Series.
Top of the ninth inning, the Yankees have runners at
first and second, two out. Aaron Judges up Blake trining
in from the bullpen to get the final out of
the inning. This is drama enough right now. But wait,
do we tell you how we got here? Uh one,
with two outs in the top of the ninth. Everything

(01:18):
was going the Yankees' way. I was going the Dodgers' way.
Everything was fine. Couple of big strikeouts to start the
couple of big outs start the inning, and then Labor
Torres thumps one to the wall in center field and
it looks like it's gonna go off the wall for
a double. However, a fan reaches out over the wall,

(01:40):
catches and yeah, now with a bare hand, that would
have been something. Reaches over the wall with a glove
and catches the ball on the fly.

Speaker 5 (01:49):
Irony. He is sitting what is known as in the
home run seats, those the first row at the wall
at Dodger Stadium.

Speaker 4 (01:56):
I'm actually looking.

Speaker 1 (01:57):
I have to have the I have the seat chart
up and the guy's last name Guy, it says it
says d Jeter.

Speaker 5 (02:05):
Did you see that? I mean, seconds after that, when
the umpires stopped the game to look at the video
and call it a double, he he motioned to the
people with him, let's go, and he starts putting stuff
in his Oh.

Speaker 1 (02:17):
Yeah, yeah, he couldn't leave fast enough. So but we'll
get to that in a second. So he leans over
the wall to catch the ball in the fly right,
Labor Torres is what's going on?

Speaker 4 (02:26):
He stops at second, everything is stoppable.

Speaker 1 (02:28):
They go and look at replay, and replay gets the
call right. This ball would have bounced off the wall
and it would have been a double. But I mean
to watch it and all of a sudden, Jeffrey Meyer
is trending and all kinds of crazy.

Speaker 5 (02:40):
Video review did not exist for that Yankee Playoffs game
in the nineties.

Speaker 6 (02:43):
I think you're still paying that guy.

Speaker 4 (02:46):
Jeter's now going to.

Speaker 5 (02:47):
Pay this guy in is on college.

Speaker 1 (02:48):
Uh and and and it was all of a sudden,
Steve Bartman is trending. It's it's just I think the
internet is broken. But they get the call right. It
would have been Now potentially could it have been a
big bounce and and and it goes back far and
it could be a trip.

Speaker 5 (03:05):
It's not an odd shaped wall or Dodger stadium. I
think you're right that it probably would have bounced at
about the same spot as Otani's did the previous set
bat he had over at right field and not quite out,
clearly not quite out.

Speaker 1 (03:17):
Yeah, potentially, could it have gotten over Key k Hernandez's
head and it would have been a triple. Yeah, maybe,
but it clearly was going to be inside the park.
And they went back and looked at it on review
and they got it right. And Glibrators is at second
base with a double, And then I get you're right, Steve,
how fast that guy started packing his stuff up. Let's go,
let's go, let's go. He's throwing all this stuff in

(03:37):
one of those clear bags and they allow you to
bring into the stadium, like, come on, let's go, let's go.

Speaker 4 (03:42):
I don't know what's gonna happen, which I'm gonna ready
for catching that ball. Man, I'm gonna pay for.

Speaker 5 (03:47):
Everyone needs to be saying, you idiot, forcing you to
leave a two to two Yankees Dodgers World Series game
in the ninth inning. You did it to yourself. And
then a really rare thing is who's the Juan Soto
is intentionally walked to get to judge. I think Swalt
said on the telecast that it only happened twice this year.

(04:08):
Who does that?

Speaker 4 (04:09):
And Aaron Judge, you thought he would take that personally.

Speaker 1 (04:12):
However, Blake trying gets out of it by getting judged
to pop to short so they get out of the
inning no runs in the ninth that Dodger's coming about
here with a chance to win the game. It is
two to two going to the bottom of the ninth
inning to Oscar Hernandez will leave things off of the
tampit And I'll tell you see when I saw that
guy lean over and catch it, But my eyes were

(04:34):
like Vegas slot machines, like, oh my god, this is
gonna be everything, This is gonna be everything.

Speaker 4 (04:39):
But then it kind of calmed down because they got
the call. Right. This is why and this is why.

Speaker 5 (04:43):
This is why replay started in baseball. Was a home
run borders tall.

Speaker 4 (04:47):
I mean, if they didn't have this, I mean you
can imagine what.

Speaker 5 (04:50):
The reaction would be like the Yankee, like the Jeffrey
Mayer thing that you're referenced exactly.

Speaker 1 (04:55):
It would be a labor Torus home run. The Yankees
would be leading three to two. It would be, oh
my goodness. But this makes you realize that, hey, we've
come a long way since nineteen ninety six. Right, We've
come a long way in that Hey, we have a
we have a way to get things right. It was
clear this was not going to be a home run
and they got it right now, it's it's gonna be
an oddity and it's gonna be a quirkiness. And yeah,

(05:16):
you could say this guy's gonna has to leave a
World Series game, but this guy's immortal.

Speaker 4 (05:20):
Man, Like, Hey, yeah, I was a guy that called
the ball.

Speaker 5 (05:22):
I believe the idiot.

Speaker 1 (05:24):
I believe he's gonna be doing interviews. Man, I'll tell
you he's gonna be everywhere. If Dan Patrick's show was
on tomorrow morning, he'd be on that show tomorrow morning
talking about I guarantee.

Speaker 5 (05:32):
And hammering him no doubt, because that was, I mean,
the stupidest of stupid moves because it was nowhere close
to the top of the wall.

Speaker 4 (05:39):
I mean, oh, I mean, I maybe he knows that.

Speaker 1 (05:42):
Hey, look, they're gonna they're gonna look at this on
replay and see it was a double.

Speaker 4 (05:45):
Yeah, I'm finem gonna catch this ball.

Speaker 5 (05:46):
I mean, I think his glove. You know, it's not
just that he was wearing Dodger gear and you know,
gets to sit right next to the wall for a
World Series game. Imagine how much he paid for those seats. Yeah,
and he's not finishing the ninth thvity he's he's forget
the starting pitchers that are out early. He's out early.
Thanks thanks for coming.

Speaker 1 (06:04):
But he caught that ball like, hey, I can sell
this thing and make some money out. I mean, I'm
not going to make four in the four point three million.
Well you are not, but I mean I might make
some cat I might make fifty grand on this ball
or ten grand on this ball.

Speaker 5 (06:15):
Can I just add as Jason, no Dodger this ball.
I think the Dodger fans will reject him wholesale, just
him personally, much less any ball he comes in contact with.
I think this is coming to mind because I had
the privilege of being at the last World Series weekend
the Dodgers hosted. But remember against the Red Sox there

(06:36):
was an eighteen inning game and the walk off homer
was from Max Munsey. Max Munsey is due up in
the bottom of the ninth and a right hander is
on the mound. I'm just thinking ahead it's it could
be extra innings, could very well be extra innings with
these two. But the cleanup guy has just popped out
to deep write yet another deep flyout for the Dodgers.

(06:57):
This Max Mounsey's coming to the play with nobody on base,
he draws a walk like nobody else, so it's a
chance you get the lead run on. He does have power,
and as I speak, Fox is showing his twenty eighteen
World Series over run. Well there you go.

Speaker 4 (07:12):
Now, I do want to say this too.

Speaker 1 (07:13):
Yes, he does draw a lot of walks, but this
is not the Mets pitching staff that walks everybody.

Speaker 4 (07:17):
Okay, understand it's going to be all that was extreme.
It's going to be a.

Speaker 1 (07:21):
Little more difficult this series. And just hey, there's three
pitches outside the strike.

Speaker 4 (07:25):
Now it's gonna be fine.

Speaker 6 (07:26):
You do realize what Jason just did there, right, brought
the Mets into it, into the world sees.

Speaker 5 (07:31):
Of course, yeah rare.

Speaker 4 (07:32):
There were two games away from it, of course, but
I think.

Speaker 5 (07:34):
You've walked him eleven times, so that is a valid
Can I say before we even finished Game one that
who were the teams that walked more than any other
lineups in the major leagues this year? The Yankees and
the Dodgers. And it's been mentioned multiple times this week.
The lineups are not only deep, but they make it
tough because they lay off the outside pitches and they

(07:56):
can hammer the fastball and as we see in the
case of Stanton, he can homer on the ball that
may not even be in the strike zone.

Speaker 1 (08:04):
So again, this is where we sit right now, bottom
of the ninth inning, won out Max months yet bat
for the Dodgers, after an incredible top of the ninth inning.
That look, it will go down as a quirky moment.
And this World Series, I'm telling you, by the time
it's over, it'll be a world series that we talk
about for thirty years. It's going to be that kind

(08:24):
of world series. Like some like the eighty six Mets
Red Sox. This series has absolutely everything in it to
do biggest market, the most popular.

Speaker 5 (08:32):
They're still talking about the Reggie World Series with yeah,
yestadge years ago.

Speaker 1 (08:37):
You're talking about seventy seven, seventy eight, and eighty one
right in all the highlights from nineteen eighty one, the
last few days after the passing of Fernando Vealezuela, And
this is going to be one of those moments that
I guarantee you and I remember when I was a
kid and I went to baseball camp, and it was
always a thing in the middle of the day we
would cool off and they would show us A World
Series reeal really like yeah, from AHLD World Series, you know,

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because it was too hot. I didn't know why, like
why we're not up playing baseball. It's like, okay, because
it's one thirty and it's increasing, it's one hundred degrees out.
Everybody's gonna sit in film for it and then we're gonna
go back out at like three o'clock. So we would
go and we would watch the the uh you know,
the highlight wheels that were voiced over, like the NFL
films of the Differ World Series. And we saw all
these different world series and it was all these these

(09:20):
I mean this, I'm going back to the curly nineteen eighties.
We saw the two Yankees Dodgers from seventy seven, seventy eight,
we saw seventy six. We saw seventy three with the
Mets and the A's and and and the Mets in
sixty nine with the Orioles.

Speaker 5 (09:32):
And v classic was nineteen seventy five Reds Red Sox Carlton.

Speaker 4 (09:36):
Yes, we saw that too.

Speaker 1 (09:37):
It was and I can already see something like that
happening where here's a crazy play in game one and
here's this fan in center field.

Speaker 5 (09:45):
And actually that had the crazy player remember ed Armbrister
was trying to bunt and he bunted it off the
plate and high up into the air, and the interference
was called at home. That was talked about for years afterwards.

Speaker 6 (09:58):
Right now, he ran.

Speaker 1 (09:58):
Into fish, ran in is thrown into center field. I mean,
I mean, this is gonna be that kind of series.
And I really and we just had a great play
to end the ninth inning. In the ninth Alex Verdugo
with a diving catch and left field to rob Keik
Hernandez and to.

Speaker 5 (10:16):
Review this, but I think he caught it in short
left to.

Speaker 4 (10:19):
The end, got it. I can see the replay he
got it.

Speaker 1 (10:22):
So we're gonna go to the tenth, which means Stanton
is coming up, and it's gonna be great theater here.
I assume trying and will come back out for the
tenth inning. Didn't throw a ton of pitches with chen Been.
I assume he will come back out here for the tenth.

Speaker 5 (10:35):
That is incredible. So we already got Judge with two outs,
two on in the ninth, and we're gonna get Stanton
leading off the tenth, who has already, by the way,
not only homer tonight. Remember when he was MVP of
the ALCS, he only had four hits against Cleveland the
whole series. They were all home runs. And this is
not the first postseason where Stanton has had five straight here,

(10:58):
it's where all of them were homers. He did that
in twenty twenty. Also, putting that in perspective, if you
add up every other player in Major League Baseball playoff history,
only one other guy's had a streak like Stanton has
head twice in his postseason career in the last five years.

Speaker 1 (11:16):
So again, we're going to the top of the tenth
inning now, so we've got another inning to go here.
So we'll have more on the game coming up in
a few minutes, but really quick, I want to get
to this because this was a big topic that came up.

Speaker 4 (11:26):
Right before the game.

Speaker 1 (11:27):
It's starting to get a lot of attention, and it
comes from mlbpa's executive director Tony Clark, who before Game
one talked about how how pitchers are used in today's
game of baseball needs to change because they're not staying
healthy and you're not getting the max performance out of them.
They're not getting the max performance out of their careers

(11:49):
and and something needs to change, and something needs to
be really big.

Speaker 5 (11:53):
And by the way, he's not just the union head.
He's a long time player, was a face he played
for a.

Speaker 1 (11:58):
Long time, and now and now he's executive director. His
quote is, the conversations we've had with our players have
suggested that unless or until you draw a line in
the sand and force change, the decision makers on any
one particular team are going to continue to make the
decisions that they're making, which is have pictures starting and
relievers max effort for the period of time that they
can have them, and as soon as they run out

(12:19):
of gas, the data suggests they're going to recycle them
out and to burn out another pitcher.

Speaker 4 (12:24):
And he is one hundred percent correct.

Speaker 1 (12:27):
Like we talk about college football, where you think, all right,
at some point, somebody's got to throw the emergency brake, right,
we got to stop realignment every.

Speaker 5 (12:33):
Five except nobody's in charge except.

Speaker 1 (12:35):
No, right exactly. It's like snow piercer. It's just a
train that keeps going. It's like me, can't we stop
to cha? No, But you's gonna keep going. It's just no,
You're gonna keep going all the way round, all the
way round, right, So you need that there's but there's
nobody there to pull the brake. But that's where we
are right now with major League Baseball with pitching. Is
that and a bigger concern is you know, yes, there's
the burnout of the pitcher's arms. But something we mentioned

(12:57):
really briefly the top of the show was that you
could have a starting pitcher and feel like we feel
great going into the postseason because we had our guy
healthy all year. He started thirty games and we're red.
But they're out of gas when they get to the postseason, right,
And not to bring the Mets back into it, but
it's a great it's a great example is Sean Maneya,
who was the Mets star. He was there stud the
last couple months of the year. He pitches great in

(13:20):
Game two and he says when he comes out of
Game two against the Dodgers, I kind of hit a
wall at that point. And then he has to come
back for Game six, he's got nothing left and the
Dodgers knock him around the park. They win Game six,
they go to the World Series. If teams would be
able to commit to something where and this is baseball,
where if you meet halfway. And let's just say this,
if teams would go to a six man rotation, right,

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and you can cut guys starts about it's a long
enough season and you have.

Speaker 5 (13:46):
Enough changed the rules on minors to lagers and movement.

Speaker 1 (13:49):
And maybe you need to change how the how the
how the roster is assembled, Like you can have x
amount of pitchers, right, it could be we're gonna add
a couple of players so you can have an extra
reliever and an extra starting pitcher. Right if you go
to six man rotations and you know, not that you
would go hard and fast on it, but hey, if
you go to six man rotation, if you're able to

(14:10):
add an extra spot for relief pitcher, that way they'll
be able to extend careers and.

Speaker 4 (14:14):
Guys won't pitch as many innings.

Speaker 1 (14:17):
I think that works, but something has to be done
because you wear's too many games where we get to
the end of the year.

Speaker 4 (14:22):
And I think this is part of.

Speaker 1 (14:23):
What Tony Clark is talking about, is that look at
the World Series we're at right now. The Yankees have
one starting pitcher. The Dodgers came in with three starting
pitchers and nine relievers because they're all out. Look at
the injuries they have and all the money that's being spent.
So it's like there's got to be a rubber meets
the road moment for pitchers.

Speaker 4 (14:38):
Andy.

Speaker 1 (14:38):
Maybe one of those ideas works, but there has to
be something that changes.

Speaker 4 (14:42):
This is what's happened in the starting.

Speaker 5 (14:43):
Pitch because the Dodgers, even when you thin down to
a four man rotation for postseason, they don't have a
fourth man the entire postseason. Every time do they get
to that spot, it's an all bullpen game exit.

Speaker 4 (14:54):
How about a fresca?

Speaker 1 (14:55):
Jason Smith Steve de Saeger in for Mike Harmon top
of the tenth one out, Jazz Chishom with a single
to right field. Mookie Betts cuts it off before it
can get to the wall, keeping him to a single,
so to two top of the tenth, one out.

Speaker 4 (15:08):
We'll have more on this game and.

Speaker 1 (15:10):
More in a big developing story out of the NFL
coming up next right here, Jason Smith.

Speaker 4 (15:14):
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Speaker 4 (15:28):
Game one is endy indication. This is gonna be some
world series.

Speaker 1 (15:33):
Jason Smith, Steve Desager, and from Mike Harmon. Tonight, going
to the bottom of the tenth the Yankees are three
outs away from taking Game one, and there have been
so many subtle, big moments in this game that have
saved runs, that have moved the ball night and move

(15:54):
runners up ninety feet. It is really one of those
games where if you're a baseball fan, you are loving
what you saw.

Speaker 4 (16:02):
Let's tell you what just happened.

Speaker 1 (16:03):
In the top of the tenth inning with the Yankees
and the Dodgers with one out, Jazz Chishm singles to
right field and he steals second base. Anthony Rizzo has walked,
but runners it first and second, and then jazz Chism
steals third.

Speaker 4 (16:18):
A huge, huge play.

Speaker 1 (16:21):
And I think I saw Brian Cashman actually break his
arm patting himself on the back because of the trade
for jazz Chism at the deadline. I think I tell
you he actually is now in a full cast on
his arm patting himself on the back forgetting jazz Chism
that gave.

Speaker 5 (16:37):
Him his third steal of tonight's game too.

Speaker 4 (16:39):
Yeah, and it.

Speaker 1 (16:40):
Turned out to be a huge steal of third because
then the Dodgers infield comes in and it's a little weird,
but I understand what happened.

Speaker 5 (16:47):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (16:48):
The Dodgers play the infield in obvious.

Speaker 1 (16:49):
With runers at first and third, one out, you can't
allow the run to score. Uh, Anthony Volpi, who already
is on the hook for an error that helped the Dodgers.
Uh move the move a runner up ninety feet and
the game Vopie hits a ground ball back up the middle.
Tommy Edmond on a play that he should make. It's
a it's a bit of a difficult play.

Speaker 5 (17:08):
He did dive and get it cleanly, but the transfer
he mobbled.

Speaker 1 (17:12):
Yeah, he dives and gets it, and if he comes
up with it cleanly, which he should, it's probably a
double play and we're going to the bottom of the
tenth inning tied. However, he bobbles the ball and is
able to get the out at second base because for
some reason, Anthony Rizzo just stopped running.

Speaker 4 (17:27):
I don't know why. I I's gonna stand. Maybe every
Reggie Jackson, I'll stick my hip.

Speaker 1 (17:30):
In the way like in seventy seven, I would do
that right, Yeah, seventy eight. Rather, yeah, we had, but
Jeffrey Mayer in the top of the night there, we
had Reggie Jackson from seventy eight.

Speaker 5 (17:39):
It's all yeah, past Yankee playoff games that come back here.
And by the way, it has been a shaky shortstop
for a guy who was starting in center field earlier
this postseason, Tommy Edmond because he had the earlier air tonight, remember,
and Miguel Rojas, the normal good defensive veteran you can
count on him type of short step was not playing
at all due to injury in the last series. He

(18:01):
is active now for this but not starting the game.
One absolutely expect Rojas to start at shortstop against the
left etamore.

Speaker 1 (18:08):
Dave Roberts already said he's starting Game two. He said
that before the game that robats. I mean, maybe he
should have been in the game for defensive reasons there,
but Edmund should have come up. It's a second error
he's made tonight, made an er in the first inning,
but it did not come back to haunt them.

Speaker 5 (18:22):
Except Edmund is due up, right, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (18:26):
Yeah, you got seven eight nine, You want the offense, Yeah,
turn it over to Otani. But it's a play he
probably should have made, but he can't make it, and
as a result, they get the out at second, but
Chisma is able to score on the fielder's choice, giving
him a three to two lead.

Speaker 4 (18:39):
Now, the thing is, if they were playing.

Speaker 1 (18:42):
Normal double play depth, they probably turned the double play.
But clearly, hey, we're playing the infielding because we're not
going to let this score, and it's it's too much
of a risk to play double Look, you have to
make a decision, right, you know the corners are going
to be in and and maybe shortstop in second or
at double play depth, so you could turn it. But
they made this to keep the infield in and I
can't like it's easy to sit back and say, oh,

(19:04):
they should have easily kept a double play, but look,
they were trying to stop the run. It was hit
hard enough to the side for him to have to
go and make a diving play to get it, and
if he comes up with it clean, it's a double play.
But he doesn't, and that's how the go ahead run
crosses the base, acrosses the plate for the Yankee. So
it's it's one of those things where I understand they're
gonna question Dave Roberts because they always question everything he does.

Speaker 4 (19:27):
But all right, he had the he had he had
the infield play. That was a strategy.

Speaker 1 (19:30):
We're gonna stop the run at home when you decide
to put the infield in. Okay, Uh, there's good. There's
gonna be good and bad outcomes that could come of this,
and that was one of them. And and it was
just one of those things that happened. But Jazz Chisholms
steal a third that completely made that happen. And I'll
tell you, when you can steal a base like that
without having to us with the game, Yeah, when you

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don't have to sacrifice it out that that's incredibly large
in a game like this.

Speaker 5 (19:55):
And from the Dodger perspective, Okay, they're behind to start
the bottom of the tenth, but the Yankees, I've already
used their closer. They brought Luke. We were in the
inning before he threw one and two thirds. He's done.
He's thrown about twenty pitches tonight. So a thirty year
old who most of us have never heard, first year
as a Yankee is on in relief. Jake Cousins is
being asked to close out the tenth inning of the

(20:17):
opening World Series game at Dodger Stadium. He got a
flyout to Will Smith And now we mentioned it's the
bottom of the order, so it's Gavin Lux and then
Tommy Edmund.

Speaker 6 (20:26):
Mariano Rivera wasn't available.

Speaker 1 (20:27):
Lie but no, but hang on a second one. He's
had a great career with the Vikings. He's doing pretty
well this year with the Falcons. Why not bring Kirk
Cousins in? I'm sure because he's be quirky. You haven't
seen a lot of them, you know. Obviously if he falters,
Michael Pennock Junior will come in.

Speaker 5 (20:43):
Oh yeah, that's why you drafted.

Speaker 1 (20:44):
Sure, yeah, but why I mean, but why not go
to Kirk Cousins here? I mean, I think it's I
looked it up.

Speaker 5 (20:48):
With the Brewers last year he got into nine games
in the majors, nine games all last year. Wow, what
is going on here?

Speaker 4 (20:57):
People?

Speaker 1 (20:58):
And he has just walked Tommy Walks Gavin Lux to
get to Tommy Edmund one out, bottom of the tenth inning,
Dodgers down a run.

Speaker 4 (21:07):
As long as there.

Speaker 1 (21:08):
Is no double play, and I hate to say it,
but I gotta say it as we do. As there
is no double play.

Speaker 6 (21:13):
Don't do it?

Speaker 4 (21:14):
Show he Otani will bat.

Speaker 5 (21:17):
Pitching coach is coming out to visit cousins. But remember
how quirky the Dodger batting order, the number nine guy
and people. When this batting order came down today, everybody
in LA raised an eyebrow. Wait a minute, Tommy Edmund's
just won MVP of the NLCS. He was betting cleanup
last game. Wasn't Ye play him at the ninth spot?
Exactly for this reason? So you have a guy that's

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been hitting can actually lead you into the top of
the order. When Otani gets up to the plate, they.

Speaker 1 (21:44):
Hope, oh this, I mean, this is some kind of drama,
the Yankees having to use their closer to get out
of a big jam and keep the game tied.

Speaker 4 (21:52):
And now this is what happens sometimes.

Speaker 1 (21:54):
It's like it's like in an NBA playoff game when
somebody fouls out and the guy's at me. I played
like four minute. Now I got to go in in
the third quarter. I gotta go to Elijah Wan. Come on,
I can't do that.

Speaker 5 (22:04):
It's mean the guy in Hoosiers who still has the
warm ups on, or some kid who never bothers to
put the uniform on underneath. Oh, I never got into
the game. I just assumed I was not what tenth
inning World Series. I'm d yes, Jake Cousins, you're asked
to be the man and close it out, and if
you can't get a double play here, you might be

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asked to be the man. I can't imagine that they
would keep him in, but that is Otani on deck,
Steve Way.

Speaker 6 (22:32):
If he can't get it done, they're going to the
Marcus Cousins.

Speaker 5 (22:38):
They should learn from the Padres and go to any
lefty they have in the bullpen. So I'm acts coming
in or whoever.

Speaker 1 (22:44):
Wait, they're actually showing right now Fox on the broadcast
in slides Eraaldus Chapman is running into Dodger Stadium right now.
He doesn't have a uniform on, but he's getting right
to the dugout to be ready to pick.

Speaker 5 (22:55):
And the visit and the home team is putting a
buzzer on the next batter underneath the jersey and they'll
find out it's gonna be a straight fastball and that's
the end of the game. We've seen this before with
Chaman in the postseason.

Speaker 1 (23:06):
And I got to tell you right now, Tommy Edmond
is facing an OH to two count.

Speaker 4 (23:10):
Neither pitch was a strike. They showed you on the box.

Speaker 5 (23:13):
You talked about this last night.

Speaker 1 (23:15):
Yes, both pitches were outside the box clearly. But instead
of a two to ohero count after a walk, Edmond
is facing an OH to two count with one out
and the tying run at first base. I really these
were really difficult calls that weren't even close. It's not
even where you see the ball is on the It's
it's close to the line like it's like there's space
between the ball and the box, Like, how is that

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a strike?

Speaker 5 (23:37):
And this same home plate umpire was calling this stuff
just off the plate balls for the first five innings,
especially with the Startersrandz.

Speaker 4 (23:47):
And Tommy Edmund has just singled to right field.

Speaker 1 (23:52):
It went off the new second second. Yes, it goes
under Willie Randolph's glove.

Speaker 4 (23:58):
A smalloa.

Speaker 5 (23:58):
Cabrera just came, here's your defensive.

Speaker 1 (24:01):
Place, Yeah, Cabrera, who is in there for defensive reasons?

Speaker 4 (24:05):
It's a it's a nice shot up the middle.

Speaker 1 (24:07):
Again, it's a ball he should get, Yes, he should
get this stop and at least get one out. I
don't think you're getting the double play at this point
because Edmund runs well enough, but he not only does
he not get it. Gavin Lux looks like he's gonna
try to go to third, and he may get there,
except Lux falls down rounding second base and has to

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get up and go back to second.

Speaker 5 (24:31):
This is all the same. Gavin once tripped between second
and third in spring training and tore his knee and
was out for the year.

Speaker 6 (24:39):
By the way, But guess who's coming out?

Speaker 5 (24:41):
But now first and lefty against lefty coming up.

Speaker 1 (24:46):
With first and second, one out in the ten finnings,
Joe Tani is coming up, and here comes Eraaldas Chapman.
I mean he got dressed really fast. It's actually the
that caught the home the double. Uh the ninth inning,
he's coming in now.

Speaker 5 (25:05):
Yeah, So now the Yankees are asking to get the
final two outs from a guy who's been out for
what a month and a half. Nester Cortes pitched in
the All Star Game in this stadium a few short
years ago, but he hasn't been pitching in the postseason.
He's active as reliever, only out five weeks with a
strained elbow.

Speaker 1 (25:24):
Oh so now, we're gonna get Cortes back on the
back on the playoff roster, the starter. And yeah, and
look there's a look reading all the New York papers,
it was a whole big thing. Is he gonna be
able to come back? Is he gonna be able to pitch?
He's gonna be the same guy. And then you know,
here he is on the World Series roster. Hey, uh, congratulations,
you're gonna come in a face o'tani with first and
second one out?

Speaker 4 (25:43):
Good luck, good luck.

Speaker 5 (25:44):
He's as a starter, would be a good guy because
he doesn't walk a lot. He keeps a minimum guys
on base. It's not a lot of traffic against him.
He can get a strikeout. I mentioned he was an
All Star a couple of years ago. But my goodness,
right into the fire when you haven't pitched in five weeks,
and keep in mind there are no minor leagues going on.

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It's not like he had a week of rehab a
triple a.

Speaker 1 (26:08):
Yeah, five weeks that's the last time he pitched. And
now here is good luck. Good So Tony, you can't
warm me up against Edmund or somebody.

Speaker 4 (26:16):
But no, I don't get key k no, No, he
is okay, okay, and.

Speaker 5 (26:19):
It's only one out. If there's no double play here,
Mookie Betts is on deck.

Speaker 4 (26:24):
It's it really, it really is something.

Speaker 5 (26:27):
So what again?

Speaker 4 (26:28):
We will we will have more on this? Why do
I love baseball?

Speaker 1 (26:32):
Steve de Sager is going to catch up on everything
trending in the wide world of sports. Right now is
to wait through the pitching change and clearly, hey, the
world the seismic shaking with the Knicks win over the
Pacers tonight their home opener.

Speaker 5 (26:45):
Steve, I repeat, not even New York. What's watching that
game today? Yankees lead in the bottom of the tenth
at Dodgers Stadium, three to two over LA, one out
in the tenth, pitching change going on. Here's how we
got here. Dodgers would two sacrifice fly for their scoring
in regulation, Will Smith's sackfly in the fifth for a
brief one nothing lead. Mookie Betts tied it at two

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in the bottom of the eighth with a sackfly right
after a costly infield err Gencarlo Stanton with the only
Yanking scoring in regulation, a long two run homer in
the top of the sixth inning for the lead against
Dodgers starter Jack Flaherty. He lasted five and a third,
six strikeouts, ninety pitches thrown. Garrett Cole was the Yankee
game one starter, six innings of work, just one run allowed.

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He threw eighty eight pitches. The Yankees took the lead
in the top of the eighth on a ground ball
fielder's choice to shortstop. The guy who set that up
was on base, Jazz Chisholm. Top of the tenth, he
had a one out single, stole, second, stole, third scored
on a ball that didn't lead the infield.

Speaker 6 (27:48):
And now it's.

Speaker 5 (27:48):
Yankees three, Dodgers two. But La has Otani at the
plate with one out, bottom of the tenth and runners
at first and second. And we can't say this loudly enough.
The pitcher that is called off and has not pitched
in five weeks.

Speaker 4 (28:02):
Oh, my goodness.

Speaker 5 (28:04):
Oh, left field line by Verdugo.

Speaker 4 (28:07):
Alex Verdugo goes, but he went into the sands.

Speaker 5 (28:10):
They should give the extra the runner of the extra base.

Speaker 1 (28:12):
Oh, he goes into the stands fully and catches Otani's
fly ball for two outs.

Speaker 4 (28:18):
This is an amazing play.

Speaker 1 (28:20):
Otani swings at the first pitch from Nestor Cortes, Verdugo
runs to the line and he catches it and he
fully falls out of the field.

Speaker 4 (28:30):
Of play and into the stands.

Speaker 1 (28:33):
It is two outs and the runners are still at
first and second.

Speaker 5 (28:36):
I think they're giving the pitcher on her third base.

Speaker 4 (28:38):
I think you have to because he left the field
of play.

Speaker 1 (28:41):
So it's gonna go it's gonna go in for a
They're gonna get runners at I don't know if the
runner gets second base.

Speaker 5 (28:49):
Yeah, it's a lucky catch like that. So it's two outs.
Bottom of the tent. Verdugo X Dodger makes the catch
at the low wall down the left field line.

Speaker 1 (28:59):
I mean, he he really, just really that is incredible.
He went into the stands that I mean, that's one
of those Derek Jeter into the stands plays from uh
that we see that he made against the Red.

Speaker 5 (29:10):
Sox, flying forward with the momentum.

Speaker 1 (29:13):
But boy Otani now one for five on the night.
He swings early against against Nestor Cortez, which is really
weird that he would comeing. Otani must have seen something
that he thought he would like. But again it's a
it's a weak foul ball down the third bit, down
the third base.

Speaker 5 (29:30):
They did give both runners second and third, which opens
a bass. They intentionally walk Moo Mookie bets and Freddie
Freeman is gonna bat with basses loaded, two outs in
the bottom of the tenth.

Speaker 1 (29:41):
You think Freddy Freeman's gonna take this personally, Steve, I
think he might.

Speaker 4 (29:45):
He might take this personally.

Speaker 5 (29:46):
You know, the Freddie Freeman of a week ago. There
would be around Dodger Stadium nerves right now because he
didn't have his legs, which you know, his greatness as
a hitter is that he can spray it to left
center field, and with no ankle, he really can't dig
into the box. And we saw the lack of extra
base hits that he was getting in the postseason. He's

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had a few days off. We'll see if that means
anything in this final at bad It is one for four.

Speaker 1 (30:14):
One for four tonight again, bases loaded, two outs, bottom
of the tenth inning, and Freddie Freeman, Oh my goodness,
oh my god, Freeman just hits a grand slam.

Speaker 5 (30:26):
Goodness.

Speaker 4 (30:26):
The Dodgers win Game one, six to three.

Speaker 7 (30:29):
Oh my god, Oh my god. I love baseball. I
love baseball. He's posing rounding the bases. He knew it
was gone when he hit it. Aaron Boone and the
Yankees are stunned. Going back into the dugout, the entire
Dodgers team is at home plate.

Speaker 4 (30:50):
They are beating the crap out of Freeman.

Speaker 1 (30:52):
Standing on home plate, the first pitch from Nestor Cortes
is deposited into the stands and writes a field The
Dodgers win a game.

Speaker 4 (31:03):
I don't know, man, this is only Game one.

Speaker 1 (31:05):
I told you it's gonna be I told you it's
gonna be a series we want, we're gonna talk about
for thirty years. We are absolutely going to see that.
The Dodgers win Game one, six to three. Freddie Freeman
a Grand Slam home run. And look, that had to
be something that was talked about right really quick. You
just watched Otanian Freeman. First, we hit the first pitch

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that Nestor Cortez threw. Now, whether this was something they knew, Hey,
when Cortes comes in, he's gonna try to give you something,
get right over the plate with it, or it was Hey,
the guy hasn't pitched in five weeks. I'm sure he's
gonna just try to sneak over a strike. You can
be hacking at that first pitch. It looked weird when
Otani did it. Boy, he didn't see any pitches. But
it turned out great for Freddie Freeman. He crushed it.

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He knew it. He puts his bat up in the air.
He knew it was gone when he hit it. The
Dodgers lead the World Series one game to none. We
will have more on one of the greatest World Series
games in history coming up next.

Speaker 4 (32:03):
Right here.

Speaker 1 (32:03):
I feel like the show is just starting. Jason Smith,
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Speaker 3 (32:08):
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Speaker 1 (32:16):
How can you not be romantic about baseball? The Jason
Smith Show is Steve de Sager and from Mike Harmon.
Basses loaded, two outs, bottom of the tenth inning, Freddie
Freeman a Grand Slam home run in the first pitch
he sees from Nestor Cortes. The Dodgers lead the World
Series over the Yankees one game to none in one

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of the great World Series games of all time. And
I'll tell you Steve De Sager and an injured left
handed batter for the Dodgers who could barely swing a
bat grunting in the tunnel, comes up and hits a
big home run.

Speaker 4 (32:52):
How many times have you seen it?

Speaker 5 (32:53):
I guess we've answered the question from last segment whether
he has his front footback after the ankle injury.

Speaker 4 (32:58):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (33:00):
I mean, there's so much incredible drama from this game,
but none bigger than Freddie Freeman a walk off grand
Slam home run to win Game one. Here's how it
sounded on the Dodgers radio network. Cortez deliveries, Freeman hits the.

Speaker 8 (33:15):
Ball on the right field, says, good gimby, make Freddy
game one of the World.

Speaker 1 (33:28):
Series' not Fox. Oh that's a great call, I said
Dodgers rabbis. That was Fox team to give me meat, Freddie.
I mean, that's that's an unreal call. That's an unreal call.
I mean, you're you're talking about. That's the third play
from tonight's game that has reminded you of incredibly famous

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plays from playoff games and in the history of of
of baseball, because you go back one play before. Alex
Verdugo going into the stands to get that fly ball
from Otani was like Jeter going in the stands against
the Red Sox.

Speaker 5 (34:03):
And it was foul down the left field line. Same thing,
all right.

Speaker 4 (34:06):
It was crazy.

Speaker 1 (34:07):
And then you had the Jeffrey Mayor Steve Bartman play.
The guy grabs the ball that looks like it's going
off the wall. They have to look at it in
the eighth inning, but their Yankees are kept off the scoreboard.
In the old days, it would have been a home run,
but they're able to review it. I mean, you had
Jeffrey Mayor, Steve Bartman, Kirk Gibson, and Derek Jeter all

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in one day. I mean, I don't know, Steve, it's
only game one. Yeah, I don't know that I need
six more games or three or how many more games.
I can just have enough with just this game.

Speaker 5 (34:37):
I really can we play best of nine between these
two teams plays more games. And by the way, that
one pitch that Freeman saw it was an inside fastball
about ninety three miles an hour, and boy did he
get around on it because that was out to right
field and out and then some. It was over four
hundred and twenty feet. The Gibbie reference on the great

(34:59):
Joe Dave call that we just heard on Fox TV,
Joe Davis by the way regular season is the Dodger
announcer Kirk Gibson's home run one. You guessed it game
one of a World Series. Yes, it was at Dodger Stadium.
It was against the mighty power of the American League
back then, the Konseko McGuire Oakland A's. And this is
one of the rare World Series matchups that we have

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where the two MVPs of the season, likely to be
Otani and one league and Judge and the other are
facing off their teams in the World Series. One of
the rare times that happened was Kurt Gibson against Jose
Canseco's team in nineteen eighty eight.

Speaker 1 (35:36):
Well, I will say this, I think all the ballots
are coming back. A great season for Otani. First fifty
to fifty guy in the history of the game. Freddie
Freeman's now the new MVP.

Speaker 4 (35:44):
I've got it there.

Speaker 1 (35:45):
Now they're going to have the ceremony before Game two
and give him the MVP.

Speaker 4 (35:48):
Jason.

Speaker 6 (35:49):
If this holds up, he's never buying a beer again.

Speaker 4 (35:52):
It doesn't matter what happens after. You can win Game
one like that.

Speaker 6 (35:55):
If they lose the series, no, oh my god.

Speaker 4 (35:57):
I mean look, well, this is the problem.

Speaker 5 (35:59):
Eighty eight, they had the Dodgers with Oral Hirscheizer to
pitch every inning the rest of the series. Yea, they
did well.

Speaker 1 (36:05):
That was the fifty nine consecutive scoreless innings for orl
Hersheys that year.

Speaker 4 (36:08):
Eight.

Speaker 1 (36:09):
But look, let's just for a second off of this
play because I have two big points to make, Steve,
because one, I'm coming around to something.

Speaker 4 (36:15):
You said a little bit ago. But first is this.

Speaker 1 (36:17):
We mentioned this really briefly a few minutes ago, but
clearly there was something whether it was a scouting report
coming in or an on the fly strategy adjustment. You know,
we saw this earlier on in the playoffs when Devin
Williams came in and Pete A. Lonza with the big
home run. You could see Carlos Mendoza talking to him

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before his big at bat, the big three run over
which was the big home run in the playoffs before
this one, telling him, Hey, that's the change up, that's
what you're looking for. So some kind of strategy on
the fly there was really helped out the Mets. I
don't know if this was a scouting report or if
it was something that on the fly they said this
is what we're going to do. But you saw Otani
and Freeman both swing at the first pitch from Nestor Cortez.

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This is a guy that hasn't pitched in September eighteenth,
and he's a big part of the Yankee bullpen, and
they put him back.

Speaker 4 (37:06):
On the roster for the World Series.

Speaker 1 (37:08):
And I don't know if it was something where, hey,
this is what he likes to do, or if it
was coming in, Hey, you know what, he hasn't pitched,
and he's coming into this game at this moment. He's
just gonna try to get something over the plate here.
And if you see a nice ninety three mile an
hour fastball, you want to take a hack at go
ahead and do it. Otani swings the first pitch and

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fouls out kind of meekly down the third base line.
Freddie Freeman swings to the first pitch and puts it
twenty rows into the stands in right center field.

Speaker 4 (37:36):
So, and I know Dave.

Speaker 1 (37:37):
Roberts is talking about it right now, but I guarantee
you that was either something they knew about him coming
in or on the fly it was, hey, this is
what he's gonna do.

Speaker 4 (37:46):
This is what we like.

Speaker 1 (37:48):
This is what I would do if I haven't pitched
in five weeks and suddenly I'm in the World Series.
Let me just throw that first one over the plate, right,
because maybe you're sitting back and you don't want it
to be over eager at something. But the Dodgers came
into this game not just for this at bat, but
they came into the game swinging much more than they
did in the NLCS. They held back against the Mets.

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The Mets like to walk a lot of batters. How
many walks of the Dodgers get? They walked set at
least seven times in every game in the NLC.

Speaker 5 (38:14):
It was eleven for the series, just for Monsey, I think.

Speaker 1 (38:17):
Right, yeah, it was insane the number of times the
Dodgers walked because they knew the Mets, Hey, they like
to try to nibble at the corners and get you
to swing. They had a great strategy for the NLCS,
but it was different here because they came out right away.
Otana was swinging early in the count. Mookie Bets are
swinging early at the count. At Garrett Cole, Freddie Freeman
swinging early at the count. This was a much different strategy.
Coming in for the Dodgers. Now, obviously things change as

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the game goes on, and maybe it's a little bit
different for Cortes, but clearly that was something going on
right there. For Cortes specifically, because both you're talking about
two of the best hitters on the team decide first pitch,
we're going after it and trying to end this thing.

Speaker 5 (38:53):
And so we have to mention, as we did earlier
in the show, Nester Cortes was an All star starting
pitcher for the Yankee two years ago, and in these
past three seasons he's been almost exclusively a starting pitcher.
How he worked these two batters, and he only threw
two pitches total in relief to three batters because there
was the intentional walk in between. He pitched like a

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starting pitcher, like, you know, I already got I got
another bat at the face behind me. No, you give
up something here, the game is over. You're a closer,
not a starter. I can remember when Jim Abbott, for example,
was returning to Anaheim. He had been Angel pitcher for
a year and became a Yankee pitcher, and he had
the starter's mentality even in the last inning of the game,

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where he gave up a home run. It flew out
and he actually motioned for a new baseball from the
catcher and they had to tell him, no, that's the game.
This is the last inning that you're pitching. This starter
they're using only in relief, and it cost him tonight.

Speaker 1 (39:55):
And right now, Dave Roberts just gets off the Fox
set and he's being hugged by Bill King, co owner
of the Dodgers, having a nice moment right there with
Billy gen Kings. Everybody's hugging Davy. He's hugging everybody now
and a lot of It's Game one, uh, the first
walk off Grand Slam in World Series history. Coming up next,

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MLB Network insider John Paul Morosi joins us what is
next following one of the great World Series games of
all times? He's off of Nesta Cortes And what a
call by Fox's Joe Davis Ortez deliver.

Speaker 4 (40:32):
Pretty many hits abroad.

Speaker 8 (40:34):
Right build sees good. Gibby makes Freddy game one of
the World Series.

Speaker 1 (40:48):
What a great call, Gibby me Freddy, Freddie Freeman, the hero.
So many twists and turns in this game. Nobody better
to talk to than a man who I almost met.
I almost figured, well we should have him on just
to do a well, let's check if he's okay after
seeing this drama. It is MLB Network insider, longtime friend
of the show. Uh follow him on Twitter at John Morosi.

(41:09):
It is John Paul Morosi. John Paul, you okay? Because
I gotta make sure my dad is okay. Friends, that
was some kind of drama.

Speaker 2 (41:18):
Jason and Steve, we will be talking about this night
for generations to come. The all the parallels. That was
a great call by Joe Davis. But and even as
as you get deeper into the layers, you've got both
of the sluggers that hit the Game one World Series
walk off are hobbled. So Gibson that it had two

(41:40):
bad legs. Freeman has one famously bad ankle, and he
delivers in this spot with Cortes on the mount, which
surely we'll talk about. And your dad probably has a
thought or two about that, James.

Speaker 4 (41:50):
Yes, he's already texted me his thoughts on that. Yes, right, But.

Speaker 2 (41:55):
Canot Mookie Betts said one of the best games he
had ever been a part of. And I think, objectively,
based on what you said, the first walk off Grand
Slam in the history in the history of the World
Series has been going on for more than one hundred
and twenty years, and it's the first time that has
ever happened, and it happens in Game one in that

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ballpark as the honor Fernando Vealenzuela. It just and it's
someone in Freddie Freeman who has just universally beloved in
the game. He's been through so much physically this year
with his son's illness, and then he's able to have
that moment he goes over to his dad. This is baseball.
This is why we love this sport and why this

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World Series, among all the World Series, is just our
delights as baseball fans.

Speaker 1 (42:45):
Well, I mean, look, I'll go you one better, John Paul.
We had three plays in this game that were that
harken back and make you think of three of the
most famous plays in baseball history. The Gibson, the Gibson
home run, Verdugo the play before like Jeter into the
stands against the red sile ball right, and the Jeffrey
Mayor Steve Bartman with the guy in center flight who

(43:07):
reached over to Kench you're talking about. We had Game
one of the World Series. What's it gonna remind you of? Well,
Mayor Bartman, Jeter into the stands and Kirk Gibson. Oh
so that's it, that's all We okay, that's fine, that's fine.

Speaker 2 (43:18):
That's a great point. And you know who, probably I
think if Freeman is the happiest person in LA the
second happiest person is the guy who caught that ball,
because now now he is right, he is like story
number seventy one in the La Times tomorrow. There is
like seventy things more important than him. But you're right,

(43:39):
we had three. That's a tremendous point by you, Jason.
Three mirror image iconic plays. Which is why baseball, As
our friend Sarah langs Offen says, baseball is the best.
It was the best tonight.

Speaker 5 (43:52):
Absolutely it was. And the FS one post game is
still going on. And by the way, and this is
my question for you. In the last twenty years of
the World Series, I was trying to come up with,
is there anything like this that's like memorable for decades
kind of the game. And one of the games I
thought of was the David Freeze game at Saint Louis
Game six in twenty eleven and apparently before tonight, that

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was the only time in World Series history that a
team wiped out multiple deficits in the eighth inning or
later and won. Because remember the Dodgers needed to say
in the eighth to tie, and the Grand Slam in
the tents won. It is that perhaps a nominee for
you of something to be remembered, this would join that list.

Speaker 2 (44:34):
Without a doubt. And for me, so I was born
in eighty two, so this is the first ever Yankees
Dodgers World Series game in my lifetime, and so for
it to end this way, and to your point, for
there to be additional comeback moments, including the one on
the eighth inning, which by the way, credit Otani for
heads up base running. And certainly it was a big

(44:55):
mistake made by the Yankees defensively of the tough eerr
On Torres, but I unders why he was given the
error because that's the ball, you've got a knock down.
I get it, I understand, And certainly a great run
saving play by Edmund up the middle, a play that
the replacement for Torre, Dinezwuano Cabrera could have potentially made.

(45:15):
Miss to change yeah, to change that anything, I really think.
I know that that was considered a hit, and it
probably deserves to be, but I thought that play could
have been made so that there were a number of
different moments in this game where you said, my gosh,
that you felt as though the outcome was changing time

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and time again, which I think is exactly how I
remember feeling on that night there in Saint Louis back
at twenty eleven.

Speaker 4 (45:43):
You know, John Paul, we talked about this.

Speaker 1 (45:44):
Nester Cortez comes in and throws two pitches, right, he
gets the incredible play by Alex Vertugo.

Speaker 4 (45:50):
Going into the stands, which was amazing.

Speaker 1 (45:53):
But I have to think either this was something either
coming into the series or an on the fly bit
of strategy, because both Otani and Freeman pounced on his
first pitch. Whether this was, hey, this is what Cortes
is going to try to do, or hey, he hasn't
pitched in five weeks. You get that ninety two mile
an hour fastball down the middle, you want to get
ahead in the count, take a whack at it.

Speaker 4 (46:14):
I got to think that.

Speaker 1 (46:15):
Was some kind of strategy going into the at bat
that they talked about for both of these guys.

Speaker 2 (46:21):
A really good point, and I think Cortes tends to
be around the plate, and I think that maybe that
was part of the idea that Listen, don't don't let
him get deep into the at bat to where his
sweeper becomes effective. And I think, in fairness, part of
the issue to move back a little bit is you
got Tim Hill there in the bullpen, and Tim Hill

(46:44):
has helps you get to this point, and so that's
why you know, Boom was talking about different matchups and
how he liked the matchup with Cortes, and listen, Cortes
did get Otani, that that happened, but you got to
realize that to get through that inning, you're going to
likely need at some point either get Bets or get Freeman,
and it seemed as though Hill might have been the

(47:06):
better option there. So it's a difficult play. I understand it. Hill, though,
has been effective for you. He's helped you get to
this point. And then Cortes, you admire him as a
teammate for getting out there, but he hasn't pitched in
a month, and all of a sudden, the first thing
you do is you face Otani in the tenth inning
of Game one of the World series. I mean, that
is that is a tough, tough assignment. So I'm sure

(47:29):
Aaron Boone will be asked about that a lot, and
I'm sure our friends on the local sports radio stations
and New York will have some fun with that tomorrow
and for however long if it goes. But that is,
that's I think going to be a major talking point
and a big reason why we talk about this this
game forever. Because of course, the Gibson home run comes
off a Hall of famer in Eckers League. In this case,

(47:50):
it comes off someone who had to even pitch in
a month. It's just it's an extraordinary bit of baseball
history that we just witnessed here tonight.

Speaker 5 (47:56):
And do you think that maybe the Yankees in retrospect
were kind of with the ball thing because they'd already
used their closer before the tenth they'd already used their
former closer, and they'd already used Tommy Kinley to get
out of something. So even with a six inning start,
they didn't have maybe as many options as they would
prefer for extra innings.

Speaker 2 (48:15):
Well, that's a very good point, and I think what
I would say in general is it's it's almost impossible
for the Yankees to get through this Dodger lineup if
they're starting to go six innings without involving the lefties
in some way, because otherwise, if you're expecting it, and listen,
Holmes has been able to go more than three outs,

(48:37):
so as Kinley at different times, and so as Weaver.
But it's a seven game series, and so you're going
to need to have your lefties stepping in there to
get key outs. And again through two rounds of the playoffs,
they won three to one over the Royals, and they
won four to one over the Guardians with Timmill getting
big out late in the game. And I think that
part of the conversation will be two for the for

(48:59):
the Yankees is you know, internally in that globhouse, are
there some eyebrows raised? Like man Tim Mill was there.
He was, He's been with us this opposition that certainly
they love Nestor as well. But it's just it creates
an interesting way that the Yankees will move past this
because of Hill being someone that's gotten him to this point,

(49:20):
but he wasn't the guy that got the ball in
the biggest spot here tonight.

Speaker 1 (49:23):
Yeah, that's a that's a tough one and you look
and for a guy like Aaron Boone, who has done
so much work this year to get the fans to
believe in him, right because Aaron Boone says he's been,
he's been someone that all look at the failures, it's
all Boone's fault and forever it seems like Aaron Boone
is on the firing line.

Speaker 4 (49:41):
Here he goes, he gets the Yankees to the World Series.
There here you think everything is fine.

Speaker 1 (49:45):
And in Game one he makes Whenever you make a
bullpen move that doesn't work out, nothing gets you second
guests faster than that going into tomorrow.

Speaker 4 (49:52):
So with that, with that being.

Speaker 1 (49:54):
Said, John Paul, yes, we talk about momentum in baseball
the next day starting pitcher. Is this win a little
bit different for the Dodgers? And is this lost a
little bit different for the Yankees?

Speaker 2 (50:06):
It so they can be and I guess what I
would say, is this that the recipe that the Yankees
set out there, and you know, in fairness, they were
walked off by the Guardians. They won the next two games,
and the Dodgers back in twenty eighteen, they walked off
the Red Sox in one of the most ethic wal
series games, ever, and then they lost the next two games.
The Red Sox won the World Series in LA. So

(50:27):
it's I'm always careful to ascribe too much of momentum
what happens tomorrow. I think the Yankees have an excellent
chance to win that game and even up the series
head back. But there's no doubt that I think in
the very same ballpark the very next day. The Dodgers
are a different team than the Guardians. They're a more
complete team, and at the end of the day, the

(50:49):
Yankees have to find a way with their lefties, whether
it's Cortes or Hill or Mesa or Kainlee is right handed,
but he's almost like a lefty because of his changeup.
We're gonna have to go through this gauntlet time and
time again. And now the Dodgers and Freeman had this
new shot of confidence because they saw that what he
could do. Remember he tripled at the first inning. So

(51:10):
there were I think a lot of really good moments
for the Dodgers, and then defensively for the Yankee the
couple ill timed mistakes where ninety people were given and
you just can't do that against the team this good
and I think that they That's part of the reason
why they paid for it with a Game one defeat
for the Yankees.

Speaker 5 (51:25):
Last question, do you still see the Yankees having the
starting pitching edge going forward even though they're down in
the series. I, for example, could easily see them winning
Monday against him ever, and Tuesday against maybe a Dodger
bullpen game.

Speaker 2 (51:38):
Sure, one hundred percent. And that's honestly. I predicted the
Yankees would win this series before, and that was the
biggest reason why. So even after Steve one of the
most epic games that I've ever seen, I can't change
my mind. So I said Yankees before, with a big
part of it being the rotation advantage. So I say
the Yankees, even after watching that, they still have the

(51:59):
rotation advantage. I cannot wait for Game two tomorrow.

Speaker 4 (52:02):
He's on Twitter at John Morosi. That is, at John
Morosi MLB Network Insider. Again, you can fall him on
Twitter at John Morosi.

Speaker 1 (52:10):
Now we can't let you go because you are a
celebrity Lions picker, Titans and the Lions Sunday.

Speaker 4 (52:15):
How is this gonna go?

Speaker 2 (52:17):
I've got Lions thirty one, Titans seventeen.

Speaker 4 (52:23):
Wow, thirty one you're feeling good about the offensive.

Speaker 2 (52:25):
Sure, I'm feeling really good. I as Jason knows, I
rarely pick above thirty, but I'm going there for the
Lions this time.

Speaker 1 (52:33):
John Paul, thanks a bunch, enjoy Game two and beyond.
We'll talk to you next week.

Speaker 2 (52:37):
All the best, my friends, Thanks so much, really appreciate it.

Speaker 4 (52:40):
All right, there goes John Paul Morosi. And let me
tell you something, Steve.

Speaker 1 (52:43):
Look, the Tim Hill question is why wasn't Tim Hill,
who was really good against the Guardians, right?

Speaker 5 (52:50):
Why was Remember Cortes wasn't on the playoff roster until today.

Speaker 1 (52:54):
And Cortes and Cortes comes into it here. There are
certain plays, certain decisions that happen in playoffs and World
Series and Super Bowls and NBA Finals where oh boy,
that was a big that was a big play, and
that helped win the series. Here we lost because of
that play. Ah, you know what, we lost.

Speaker 4 (53:13):
Let's move on.

Speaker 1 (53:14):
And then there's plays that stick with you for thirty
and forty years. There's still Jets plays from the plays
in Jets games from the eighties, and I still think
about going, how the hell does Mark Gaseno rough? Bernie Kozar,
you know, like, how does that happen?

Speaker 2 (53:27):
Right?

Speaker 4 (53:27):
How do we do that? Well?

Speaker 5 (53:28):
We mentioned you what we mentioned the David Freeze game.
Texas Rangers fans still say, how did Nelson Cruz not
catch that ball to the wall in right field? We
got a dh play in right field and we never
won another game that series.

Speaker 4 (53:40):
And if the if the Yankees lose this series for
thirty years, you mean, Yankee fans are gonna say, why
wasn't Tim Hill in that game?

Speaker 2 (53:49):
Hey?

Speaker 4 (53:49):
How you feeling today? Great?

Speaker 1 (53:51):
Hey, the year is twenty forty six. What's the first
thought today? Why wasn't Tim Hill in that game instead
of nets to Cortes back in twenty twenty four. It's
one of those thirty year storylines we're gonna have. That's
how big trust me. I know, I know New York,
I know sports and know how things age when you
lose a game like that and there's big either or
decisions that are made. That's how this decision is going

(54:12):
to age and thirty we'll still be talking about that
in thirty years. Amazing, an incredible, incredible night. I feel
like we're just getting started. Dodgers win Game one of
the World Series over the Yankees of Freddie Freeman's walk
off Grand Slam home run is the big play of
the game, the big play of the season, the big
home run of the century so far, whatever you want

(54:33):
to say. We have more on this game coming up next,
including the reason I picked the Dodgers. It was because
of exactly what happened tonight. And no, it's not Freddie
Freeman's Grand Slam?

Speaker 4 (54:42):
What is it?

Speaker 1 (54:43):
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