November 5, 2024 • 44 mins
It's Fox Sports Radio's official fantasy football podcast! Mike Harmon and Ian Roddy (in for Dan Beyer) recap Week 9 of fantasy football, beginning with their immediate thoughts and reactions following the Chiefs' win over the Bucs on Monday Night Football... Is DeAndre Hopkins back? Can anybody beat the Chiefs? Later, the guys get into the rest of the week's matchups, going through the studs and duds from each game and discussing some of the broader storylines coming out. Plus, Mike gives his hot waiver wire adds as we move into Week 10!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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(00:24):
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Speaker 2 (00:33):
Grittings and welcome in wrapping up and exciting, exhilarating week
nine in the National Football League. Welcome in as I
want your flex. Mike Harman alongside our executive producer Ian Roddy,
Dan Byer on assignment, Doug Gottlie of our colleague at
Flax Sports Radio his coaching debut. So Dan on assignment, cheering,
perhaps cheered himself a little bit horse, but on travel today.
(00:56):
So it's just Ian and I as we look back
on what was a wildcare a week nine that ended
with fireworks in Kansas City.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
Yeah, it was a good Monday night football game. I
you know, a little disappointed to see the Chiefs still
still undefeated because my biggest question was why didn't the
Buccaneers go for two.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
That is the question that we'll be asked repeatedly in
the cycle. Jason Smith and I did quite a bit
of it on Monday night playing the Todd Bowles explanation,
which frankly Ian had made no sense, made zero sense.
And part of it as we owed it to the defensive,
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thinking of bowls of we'll be able to get it,
we'll be able to hold them down, we'll get the
ball back. Whatever. But in the moment, just looking at
game situation, you're giving the ball back to Patrick mahons
w with aout a half a minute left, they have
all their timeouts remaining, and the way the kickoff rules work,
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you're getting the ball where you need to move it.
What about thirty yards? That's it. Thirty yards in thirty seconds.
And if Travis Kelsey doesn't drop a pass over the middle,
that gets tipped and and ultimately and you know, almost
intercepted by Winfield and didn't and then Mahomes nearly gave
Winfield won the next play. Yeah, but the Kelsey play,
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if he makes that completion, you need about eight yards
and you're in Butcker's range. Because they were showing the
montage of everything he was doing pregame and obviously maybe
because of the wet field, which is one of the
reasons Todd Bowle used. I mean he actually went Millie
Vinilli and blamed it on the rain, which is just unbelievable.
But you're giving the ball to Mahomes there, and then
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you're gonna go to a coin flip for overtime when
the at the two the two point play now this
year is I cited on the show. You can find
the podcast to what Jason and I did. Uh, the
the long form of all of this argument, including the
Bowls SoundBite wherever you get your podcast, wherever you downloaded this,
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of course, but it's basically been a coin toss in
its history every year forty to fifty five percent. For
some reason in twenty twenty four, which I'm curious to
go if I were to get a long form super
cut of all the two point conversions. Why it's down
so dramatically, But through the games heading into Monday Night,
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teams were only successful at a thirty one percent clip
last year was fifty five percent. So like a huge swing,
something is a miss. But either way, you're playing for
a coin flip on that play, and then you have
to win another coin flip, and then well you still
have to go execute as an offense or in this case,
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as a defense, which you failed to do all of it.
To say, I think you showed cowardice and you didn't
trust your offense, Baker Mayfield, who just drove you down
on a seventy yard drive. You gave up two very
long for tracted drives to the Chiefs in the second half,
a total of twenty nine plays. And I want to
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say it was just under fifteen minutes of football time
that you don't think you can get two yards in
that moment You just called a great play to get
Miller opened for the touchdown. Like why the coward is ian?
Speaker 3 (04:18):
I couldn't tell you. I couldn't tell you, but but
I don't miss Todd Bowles as the Jets coach. So
it is kind of a little you know, it does
make me a little happy.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
Do you think it's because he's got some residual Jets
in his bloodstream?
Speaker 3 (04:28):
I think so. I think I must have rubbed off.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
He hasn't gotten the extra team to get it out
of him, like Sam Darnold.
Speaker 3 (04:37):
Wash out the Jets stink. Yeah, No, that's definitely, that's
definitely what it is.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
I'm sure just a very difficult proposition, especially like the
Chiefs first half struggles. But we come out of this
game from a fantasy perspective, which is, you know what
we're charged to do here. You find me at Swallowen Dome,
find Ian at Ian, Roddy underscore, find Dan harassed him
at Dan Byron Fox is All of a sudden, DeAndre
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Hopkins was finding space right where they were almost perfect
on the night together. Now, Travis Kelce, if you didn't
sell early back to back ten plus catch games for
him and Patrick Mahomes for the second straight week. Last
week he scored nineteen points. Here you got two ninety
one and three all of a sudden. If you were
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sitting holding or you bought low Patrick Mahomes second half
of the season suddenly that much more intriguing because you
saw as the game war on, you also have a
viable running back who's probably gonna be a back end
one going forward in Kareem Hunt twenty seven carries against
and Tampa Bay's defense. For out all the accolades of
bowls and reputation, they haven't been very good in many circumstances.
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But on this night, suddenly, for the second half of
the season, I think you're in bold and if you're
holding any of those Chiefs trio.
Speaker 3 (05:55):
Definitely it was I was really happy. I mean, I
don't like the Chiefs, Don't get me wrong, I don't
like to see them still go undefeated, but it was
I did like to see DeAndre Hopkins kind of have
a little bit of a revival and see him have
some success, because he really has been kind of in
fantasy purgatory the last few years, banished to have Will
Levis as his quarterback.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
Levis, you go to Arizona with Kyler Murray. He was
good in Arizona when they were together, right, right, But
then you had a bunch of journeyman quarterback filling in
of course there, So yeah, I changed certainly a change
in good fortune.
Speaker 3 (06:31):
But him the other end of the spectrum from DeAndre Hopkins,
Xavier Worthy was awful tonight. And actually if you started him,
he would have lost you a point, which I actually
benefited from because yes, because I was in a matchup
and I needed him to go zero points, have absolutely nothing.
That was the only way I was going to win
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because I was up by less than a point and
he ended up losing a point for my opponents. So
thank you Xavier Worthy for that.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
Sweet victory to Carr's minus ten yards accounting for that
did not record a catch on the night. On his
two targets, Man Kelsey fourteen catches, one hundred yards, sixteen targets,
no touchdowns. But that's still a twenty four point night.
That is a nice tasty But he finds a way
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to get open, like that's just it, and you marvel right,
it was Gronk before him. Now he does that. We've
watched it with the Cowboys. Now we'll talk about the
injury to Ceede Lamb as we go through our report
card for the week. But same thing. It's like, you've
got no other options yet somehow this guy's open. Explain
this to me like I'm a five year old. But
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on the other side, Kate Aughton, a lot of people
had speculated, not us, that somehow the Chiefs would take
him away being the number one option. They don't defend
tight ends. That's the one thing with the Kansas City defense,
as good as they are, you're gonna move the ball ot.
In eight catches, seventy seven yards and a score on
eleven targets. Another big night for him and Baker. Mayfield
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salvaged what was a pretty pedestrian effort in that final
final drive as he gets up to two hundred yards
and two scores. For a nice serviceable, workmanlike effort and
better that I would have anticipated. I had him in
the Colts stores as part of our checklist and running
to I mean, that's not terrible, but not not world beating,
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but certainly a lot better than some of the other
efforts we saw from the quarterback position this weekend. But
a thirty to twenty four game. If you were watching
at halftime when it was ten to seven, you might
have been looking for whatever else might have been on
on a Monday night. Instead, the second half gave you fireworks.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
We actually we almost saw Carson Wentz in the second half.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
We did.
Speaker 3 (08:46):
I got excited there. I actually started laughing when I
saw him.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
When you saw him up in Warring, I.
Speaker 3 (08:50):
Was like, I forgot he was the chief's backup. How
that would have been kind of a little treat to
get to see him. Yeah, Mahomes got right back out.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
Yeah. For folks that didn't see it, Mahomes on a
on a scramble on a touchdown pass actually but because
the defenders broken broke their coverage to come up and
try to bury him. But non contact injury left ankle
foot like just everything seemed to buckle.
Speaker 3 (09:16):
Yeah, it was weird, Like, yeah, it's just he took
a step that looked awkward or whatever, but thankfully he
was okay.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
Be curious in the reports and obviously recording this late
Monday night West Coast time, how much that foot and
ankle swells.
Speaker 3 (09:32):
I think he rolled it last week as well too,
so it might have been him like reaggravating that or something.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
So just looks so uncomfortable. He actually was getting helped
walking around. He had a guy under each shoulder, and
then he was back and.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
Then he was jogging on the sideline and the crowd
was cheering and stuff.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
Like just a little pero, maybe a little bit. Maybe
he wanted to put on a show for Taylor, who
was back in the crowd. You entertained us, Now let
me entertain you. Look at me. I'm injured, unless I'm not.
So all of that to say, there's your Monday night
football recap. Fun and exciting to end what was a
wild Week nine in the National Football League. As we continue,
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we'll go through our scorecard, take a review of the good,
the bad, the ugly off of our preview episode. I
don't know a mixed bag. I think more wins than losses,
but certainly some questions to be asked as we get
ready for week ten, He's Ian Roddy had Ian Roddy Underscore,
find me over at Swollen Dome, Mike harmon Ian Roddy
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with you, Dan byer On a sign and more. I
Watch your Flex coming up next. I Watch Flex continues
looking back at the games of week nine, putting under
the microscope, a lot of the predictions as we go
through the rankings each week, the hot plays cold, socores, ninjas,
a lot of opportunities for greatness, a lot of cautionary tales,
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and then occasionally, well we might miss. And in the end,
I'm trying to talk it into existence for you and
your fantasy squads. And sometimes you know what, the good
old football world Ian doesn't quite cooperate with the prognostication skills.
Speaker 3 (11:12):
No it doesn't, but those are the ones that we
don't acknowledge. We only acknowledge the wins.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
Past performance, not indicative of future returns as we're watching
late night infomercials. We had good success at the quarterback position.
Jalen Hurts with another big day. He was number two
on the week. He was number one on my rankings list.
Joe Burrow was in the top five, Lamar Jackson, and
you got Josh Allen there. Jayden Daniels finishes the top ten,
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so we'll take that as a victory. So long as
you're a QB one, you're there. From the ninja side
of things. Did put in bo Nix as a guy
he had to look Actually I had him as a
hot play. He finished as QB fifteen, which isn't world beating,
and it wasn't because he was a quarterback. I'm going
to take the spike because he was a receiver and
caught that touchdown pass and he actually looked like he
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knew what he was doing there. So Sean Payton can
get into his bag a little bit.
Speaker 3 (12:05):
The throw by Sutton and the catch by Knicks were
both just them out of position, looking like they were
like top five at their position.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
How great I mean, Courtland Sutton gets into the fantasy
books as a great performance. It's all on a relative.
Like what you saw from the wide receivers this week
is you had some thirties and then it dropped off
real fast into the low teens. And for Sutton, I
mean that was his impact play of the day. Otherwise
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didn't do a whole lot as we watched Denver get
throbbed in a game that I think most of us
really didn't expect that. Now, I obviously Denver's defense hadn't
faced a world class scheduled to that point, but you
also don't expect Vance Joseph squad to get worked the
way they did. And Baltimore, Lamar Jackson, Derrick Henry and
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company really just an impressive effort overall.
Speaker 3 (13:00):
They're they're unfair. They're unfair. How did we let Derek
Henry and Lamar Jackson end up on the same team.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
Well, that's that's the funny thing. You get ask Jerry Jones.
You couldn't figure out how to find eight million dollars
or ten million dollars.
Speaker 3 (13:12):
Do they do something at the trade deadline for a
running back or is it too late? That's the real question.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
Well, that that is that is one of the But
now with Dak Prescott.
Speaker 3 (13:20):
Crack, our conversation entirely.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
No, no at all. But with Dak Prescott now hurt, how
much do you like.
Speaker 3 (13:25):
The running back position A point?
Speaker 2 (13:27):
Yeah, I mean, and what do you have to sell
as well? There ain't a lot. Like if I'm trying
to pick over the carcass of what that team is
right now, I'm not finding much. Right, Parsons and Bland
are finally Parsons potentially coming back to action.
Speaker 3 (13:43):
Can you trade Michael Parsons? That is the question. That
would too valuable, That would be crazy. Yeah, well it'd
be it'd be worth a lot of picks, is the point.
But that that's not even worth well, but if you.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
Got to do a hard reset, right, I mean, we're
gonna do a special Wednesday emergency episode because we do
have the trade deadline Tuesday after noon, So the three
of us will convene in some way, shape or form
to kind of go through the good, the bad, the ugly,
and the unexplainable ie which teams sit on the sideline of.
(14:11):
It's been pretty busy already, Ian, right, I mean we've
seen I mean, we're just talking about DeAndre Hopkins, right,
and unfortunately for some of the guys that got dealt.
It ended badly, right, Stefan Diggs looked like he was
going to be in a great place. Nico Collins will
come back. Let's see what see. It doesn't fix their
offensive line, that leaky offensive line in Houston. But part
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of it I think CJ. Stroud holding on to the
ball too long, waiting for secondary receivers to become a
listers at times.
Speaker 3 (14:42):
How much is his fault though, and Tank that is
your top guy.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
Well, but that's the thing, right, it becomes the you know,
trying to pull the strings. But look, the offensive line
wasn't very good before the Collins injury, and right now
you're into the thirties and sacks, which is what he
had all of last year. So you're already into a
very dangerous place, all right, But we'll continue back to
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the report card. I did have Patrick Mahomes in my
top five, which was a bit bold that I had
him as my number five quarterback. Was done, sir, So
I'm going to take a victory lap with the two
ninety one and three. Again, it's all about how it finishes,
because it was not a pretty game for the most part.
Speaker 3 (15:21):
Not at all. It does feel like his major explosive
fantasy days are kind of over those days of like
five six touchdown passes that you know from that first
year as a starter, and like, you know those few
few years from that point on that he was kind
of like the go to number one advantage of the position.
Kind of feels like that's over.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
Yeah, we had a little bit of fun with it
on Monday night, Smith and I because about two weeks
into the season we had brought in the data and
what we watched a year ago. Because offensively it was
not a masterpiece by any stretch, but he found right right,
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you give me the ball in the final minutes. It
was very much as we termed it then and we
term it now. We even brought it up at the
at some point towards the end of last year. It's
very reminiscent of the old school Brady Patriots in those
early years. As you remember as a Jets fan as
a kid, probably being introduced to the game and saying,
this is not fair to where spot on spot right.
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I mean, like you would have been very little Ian
at that point. But the just the idea of we've
got a good defense, run game serviceable, but Brady'll make
a play as he needs to. It's not gaudy statistics.
But we got Mahomes and the offense where the latter
year Tom Brady Patriots, where you're winging and around, he's
at forty plus touchdowns whatever. Now it's the inverse of
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the Patriots. The second act looks a lot like Tom
Brady's first act.
Speaker 3 (16:52):
Yeah, and that's what the greats can do. Because me
saying that was in no way meaning to say that,
you know, Mahomes is not great or that is great,
and this is going downs. He's actually getting better if
you watch it's it's just from a fantasy person, what's
needed of them? Yeah, exactly, from a fantasy person.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
It's not a pinball running up and down. You don't
have Tyreek Hill there. I think as we were.
Speaker 3 (17:13):
Talking about, by the way, is that Tyreek Hill could
be the favorite that the landing spot Kansas City.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
Well, but that's the thing, right if Miami decides, And again,
as we record this, it's late on Monday night, a
lot of time before the deadline, and by the time
you're listening to this, maybe it's already happened. But can
you go and if a team is decided, they're waving
the flag right if they're putting up the white towel
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their duke in Rocky four and just said no that
they actually do, then all of a sudden, Tyreek Hill
back in play. I mean, there are still a number
of wide receivers on some pretty bad teams that maybe
find their way to greener pastures and can open things up.
But I think I was encouraged from the game against
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Tampa and again to hang a star on their secondary
is nothing to write home about, except for Winfield, of course,
but the opportunity looks like you've at least got a
tag team partner for Travis Kelcey as he's gotten back
into true Travis Kelcey's shape and his import on the
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team has grown. Kareem Hunt as a runner instead of Pachecko.
You finally have that guy back, so maybe we've got
better days. Am I going to be so bold as
to put him as the top five guy each week? No,
not yet. I got to see it again, but this
one just felt like a good opportunity as a squad
that was kind to be written off. I also thought
Baker would need to press and that maybe you'd get
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a short field or two to work with, but they'd
be able to cash in on those chips. But either way,
two ninety one and three, I'm taking the victory. I
had Nick Chubb as a cold soar everybody's like Nick
Chubb's back, He's great. They're playing the Chargers, They're doing nothing.
He finished as running back seventy two for the week. Also,
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Jamar Chase was on my cold source. He finished as
wide receiver thirty three on the week as well, and
that was pending the final import of the Monday night game.
So you've got that. So I would guess with Kelsey's
game and a couple others that were actually looking at
thirty six. But either way, you go through Saqua top five. Fine.
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Some other big opportunities there up front. Bijon Robinson finished
top ten. Big fail for me in the lost column.
Kyrien Williams. You get the big effort from the Rams,
but his scoreless scoring streak and all of the big
fantasy games he had comes to it, and he finished
outside of the top twenty four at the running back position,
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and so that one I'll take a kick to the
teeth there. Jamir Gibbs was in a number three on
my board. He finished seventeenth. Za Flowers thought Patrick Certan
would be the guy keeping him in check.
Speaker 3 (20:05):
No.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
Two touchdowns and wide receiver number three for the week,
So I lose their.
Speaker 3 (20:12):
Josh checked out, The logic checked out on that one.
Speaker 2 (20:15):
It seemed like fine. And then unfortunately, because you have
to take care of the sledgehammer that is Henry the
scrambler to screw you, that is Lamar Jackson, that there's
going to be an opportunity.
Speaker 3 (20:27):
That's what I mean. It's unfair there.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
On the same time, at this point we are talking
unfair Coldzoy also had Jacobs because of the injury status
against Detroit. He finished number ten with some receptions, so
you had some opportunity there. And then everything going on
with Indianapolis Flacco downs just an absolute failure. I don't
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know that it could have been worse with Anthony Richardson
on the field, the way that looked on Sunday Night
Football and that game was flexed to the national audience.
Speaker 3 (20:56):
Ian Yeah that they had to come out swinging on
offense in that game. They had to put up something
better than they did. With the fact that if you're
going to bench someone you drafted fourth overall for Joe Flacco,
who the whole reasoning was that he would give you
a better chance to win, and then A you didn't win,
and B you didn't put up better offense than you
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you know, have been with Richardson. It's like, what was
even the point to.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
Be your only touchdown comes on a defensive score right
right in the first half, and.
Speaker 3 (21:23):
What do you do, Like, do you bring Richardson back?
Speaker 2 (21:25):
Now?
Speaker 3 (21:26):
You can't backtrack it. This is point.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
This is where this was a failed construction. And we
talked about it a lot on the shows Bucky Brooks
and I on Sunday Morning and and Smith and I
and I think we've done some of it here on
a I watch your flex through the through the season
is if you bring in Joe Flacco, you're telling me
you're thinking you can win this year.
Speaker 3 (21:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:47):
Right, he was the SOT backup available, right, So if
Richardson gets hurt or is ineffective, Flatco's there because you've
got a steady hand. And don't tell me he's just
there to try to coach him up from the sideline. No,
that guy's still a vilable, viable quarterback, as we saw
in Cleveland a year ago. So by bringing him in
and now putting him in as a starter, you're telling
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me you think he can go win games. And if
that's the offensive game plan that Steichen and company come
up with, and like Brian Flores, after a couple of
really rough games, had that defense flying around again. Maybe
they started reading some of the press and getting ticked off,
but it was such a pedestrian effort, and you had
Jonathan Taylor available too, right, Right, it wasn't like you
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were going to one of your secondary tertiary backs, like
you had full upfront and center. Every bit of your
weaponry had put up six points.
Speaker 3 (22:40):
Right, I mean, it is worth at least conceding that
they were going against a very good defense in the Vikings.
But it just goes back to the fact that, like,
if you were going to bench Richardson, regardless of who
the defense you were facing, this just had to be
your best effort, your best foot forward on offense. Just
show everyone that, like, we can win game with Richardson
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on the bench.
Speaker 2 (23:01):
I mean, because from a roster perspective coming into the
year would have said, all right, giant question mark on Richardson,
but everything else checks out, which is why you bring
in Flacco, but then you're trying to figure out exactly
where you stand. So if you make this move pushing
richardson to the side and again very green. We all
know the narratives we've been talking, but this effort was
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just next level and probably submarined a lot of fantasy
leagues this week. And not that I would have expected
a three hundred and three score performance from Flacco, but
just everybody tore you down, from Pittman Junior to Downs
to Taylor like all just disappointments and Flacco himself because
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the quarterback position, Let's face it, we've been trying to
find diamonds in the rough week after week because there's
very few consistent options. So another failed there. Now. I
put also the incomplete Abby in just because we we
got starts and then we didn't get to finish. So
Chris Alave just a brutal, brutal play. He's probably done
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for the year. I don't expect to see him again
at this point. Dennis Allen gets fired, he walks the plank.
Week two seems like a year ago, now, doesn't it.
Speaker 3 (24:18):
Yeah, they were two and oh coming off the the
dominant way. It was the Panthers and the Cowboys.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
Well they beat the hell out of the Cowboys. Right now,
realize they're terrible, but at that point they still had
all the time.
Speaker 3 (24:29):
It was really impressive. Yeah, which now obviously we can
see it wasn't as impressive as we thought. But but yeah,
I feel for a lave man because it's it's not
just that that injuries have been common for him. It's
that like head injuries have been caught. But that's the
greatest one. And yeah, a lot of people have been
blaming car for that throw. Michael Thomas, former former team
(24:50):
Michael Thomas is beating that. That that fan club or
anti fan club, whatever you want to call it. But yeah,
that that's a whole situation in itself. But just really
prayers up for a lot of it.
Speaker 2 (25:01):
Yeah, it was a tough watch. They say he's doing okay.
There was some check ins from friend's family.
Speaker 3 (25:07):
Well apparently he was back at the locker room. Like
by the end of the game. They discharged him from
the hospital. I guess he wanted to be around when
they fired Alan or something.
Speaker 2 (25:15):
He wanted to go sign off on it or something.
I get to have a vote, maybe Dallas Ceedee Lamb
leaves with an injury. Doesn't look like it's gonna be
too serious, but enough to where we've got to monitor it. Now,
Dak Prescott's gonna miss a minimum of a two games,
so that they're saying might go on ir and the
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way the schedule shakes out, we may not see Dak
Prescott again.
Speaker 3 (25:39):
Cooper Rush Show, Cooper.
Speaker 2 (25:41):
Rush, and I heard a lot of the cacophony of
voices going, you gotta see what you have in Trey Lance,
Like trade deadline is less than twelve hours or about
twelve hours from where we're finishing the recording of this podcast,
Trey Lance doesn't get to show you anything on tape.
And even so, what are you getting a conditional third
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day pick? Even if he played well, what are you
going to try to shop his preseason efforts? He throw
five picks in a game for crying out loud. So yeah,
Cooper Rush and whatever it is I mean outside of
C D Lamp, I guess Ferguson becomes a bigger play
tight end position, being as unsteady as it is. But
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young quarterbacks, not that Rush hasn't had some experience, but
it's not like they're going to have him chucking the
ball all over the place.
Speaker 3 (26:32):
Those are the safety blanket.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
Yeah, the tight end back out of the backfield. So
doubtell as a receiver again, I want no part of
that trio. Mind you. Whether Zeke Elliott's still with the
team by time we finish recording, this is a question.
Speaker 3 (26:46):
Shared situation there.
Speaker 2 (26:48):
It's a yeah, odd sent left home for disciplinary reasons,
creating chaos where there already was. So we'll look at
the As you look at the depth chart for the Cowboy,
it's always the when a new quarterback comes flying back
up and in, it's like, all right, who was he
working with on the second team is kind of where
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we want to go to try to find a little
bit of love, particularly as we think maybe about the
waiver wire and those kind of opportunities. And so as
we look at the depth dart for the Cowboys, target
potentials that start flowing in floorne seven with squad Cavante
(27:30):
Turpin like this now becomes the winging up prayer. This
is like the Dollar DraftKings kind of kind of setting.
Speaker 3 (27:37):
Up a team we could like play a game, you know,
like Cavino and Rech they do like you know, Olympian
or Chipotle worker. We could do, you know, like Cowboys
player or McDonald's worker or something, and just these are
random names. No one's ever heard of.
Speaker 2 (27:51):
Who is this guy? Yeah, so, I mean we know
Tolbert and you know we've seen Turpin a little bit,
Special teams and other but yeah, now you're trying to
find extra bodies, particularly if Lam ends up missing anytime,
so that's potentially huge. So those are some of the
the incompletes on the report card, but also injury situations
to watch you want to check in. I know we
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had Berschinger in. But one of the things I think
we'll look at is what we'll get you with the
waiver wire defense, not just a streamer, which we'll do
in our Thursday episode as we preview the week in full,
but as we get to the waivers, we'll do that.
Anything from week nine that stood out to you.
Speaker 3 (28:31):
The Rams definitely stood out big time against the Seahawks.
So obviously the Seahawks have been kind of shooting themselves
in the foot a lot, so you know how much
of it is due to that, But they've had some
big performances and they're led by young guys rookies too,
so that's you know, if you're in a dynasty league,
it could be extra worth picking up for a defense there.
Speaker 2 (28:50):
But just on a grander scale, though, take it out
of the defenses for a moment as you watch the
games of Week nine, any any performance that kind of
raised your eyebrow or maybe from your own fantasy good, bad,
ugly kind of circumstances that you want to highlight coming
out of the week.
Speaker 3 (29:08):
That was As a Jets fan, I was very, very
happy to see Garrett Wilson and DeVante Adams come through
with big games. Obviously, you know, we'll see how sustainable
that is. I've been pretty vocal on this podcast about
the Jets and how I kind of feel that the
season's kind of over. We'll see, they're kind of clawing
their way back in, we'll see. But yeah, Garrett Wilson
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thirty fantasy points. Was pretty cool to see wide receiver
three on the season right now. I think so. Actually,
even though early in the season it looked like he
wasn't really coming through on that draft position, he has
since and I wonder if DeVante Adams being there has
actually been a really big benefactor.
Speaker 2 (29:46):
Yeah, even with the down week, jamar Cha is still
number one in PPR leagues, Jefferson sitting at the number
two spot. Garrett Wilson is less than a point behind
Jefferson for the two slot. Lamb Drake London. Chris Godwin,
who hasn't played in two weeks, is still at number six,
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showing how proficient and effective that connection was, with Baker
Mayfield rounding out the top ten. Terry McLaurin, I'm on
raw same brown, Zay Flowers, and Jaden Reid. Jaden Reid
is number ten amongst wide receivers despite he had a
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thirty three point game go all the way back in
week one, so you got that. He had a twenty
seven point game in week four. Otherwise, you've got three
games under eight, including a three point performance. You've got
a couple of thirteen sixteen point again fourteen, like two
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monster games are enough to make him the number ten
receiver in the game.
Speaker 3 (30:55):
And then I guess someone else to point ou would
be Brock Bowers. I don't know if we've really mentioned
him a ton on this podcast yet, but is he
the best? I mean, yeah, he's the number one, is
number one fantasy as a rookie, which I guess Georgia
fans saw it coming. The rest of us kind of
thought it would be a little a little bit more
gradual of a.
Speaker 2 (31:14):
Just a rise that I mean, because you also had
mayor that you were expecting who's been away from the team. Yeah,
so you know, and again not a lot of details,
And I'll be honest, I haven't done a ton of
digging to try to find answers like stuff like that.
When a guy's away from the team.
Speaker 3 (31:29):
Kind of feels like you're crossing a line if you do.
Speaker 2 (31:31):
Just you know, it's I mean, your curiosity of you.
You would like to know, but I figure we'll get
the answer in due time. Just hope he and all
his are okay. But for Bowers, I mean I thought
he'd be an impact player, not to this level. Yeah right,
I mean you're thinking, all right, top ten, that they'd
have the dual tight end thing. And I always I'm
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reticent ever to really go deep down into that New
England well because of what Air and Hernandez's story became.
But when they were on the field together, you didn't
really have wide receivers that mattered. It was Hernanda's picker
poison in that regard, and I thought that was going
to be the case with the Raiders with DeVante Adams,
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and you know that you'd have enough depth that wide
receiver that might be interesting. YEA, regardless of the fact
that you didn't trust the quarterbacks.
Speaker 3 (32:30):
Well, it's just the way the things have played out
to have played into how well he's been because, like
you said, DeVante Adams is gone, Michael Mayer has been
away from the team, and then and then we kind
of nodded to it earlier. But the fact that young
or more inexperienced quarterbacks tend to, you know, lean on
the tight end position, and Minsh's not young and inexperienced,
but he's you know, he's someone who's gonna want to
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lean on his safety blanket.
Speaker 2 (32:53):
Morey also doing a good job of, you know, let's
face it, force the ball in and allow him to
make a play. He's big, physical and gets after it.
And you're talking outside of you know, two performances going
back to weeks three and four, he hasn't been outside
of double digits the rest of the year, which at
the tight end position is absolute gold. Number two to
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him is George Kittle, who's had his by and missed
a week still number two, number three, twenty points behind.
Speaker 3 (33:24):
That is Trey McBride, McBride's third. That's it because he
I might be wrong, but I don't think he has
a receiving touchdown.
Speaker 2 (33:33):
He doesn't need.
Speaker 3 (33:33):
That is crazy, the third third tight end on the
year without a receiving touchdown. That's really saying.
Speaker 2 (33:38):
Tucker Kraft sitting at number four, and the always enigmatic
and curious Kyle Pitts is number five, again showing the
volatility of the position. Because you have the twenty five
point game in week eight, a fifteen point game in
week five. Otherwise you've got a zero, a five, a
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two point point one eleven. There's a couple of other
solid weeks, but really one massive week. It's been enough
to get it. Get him there. Kay Dotton now rising
up as well after his big day in week nine,
he'll he'll be up amongst the leaders here. I think
he's he's behind McBride. I think right now if you
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add those points back in Kelsey rising up as well,
I would say one guy that was a huge disappointment
this week, as well as the entire squad. I could
do a half hour on the Bears. I'm not gonna,
but I could do about the failures of the Bears.
Cole Comet had no catches. Yeah, no target hurt me
in a few weeks. Well that's how I got sent
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home from the guillotines in week eight was the ineffectiveness
of the Bears offense in what seemed like a solid
spot against the Washington Commanders.
Speaker 3 (34:51):
And I know that hurts you fantasy wise and personally
as a Bears fan. So I'm double sorry, Mike.
Speaker 2 (34:56):
No, I mean the Bears thing, you know, there was
just myriad problems. Why are you still have all your timeouts?
Why are you running an offensive lineman? Especially when Roshawn
Johnson and later on would score is four to four?
It read, you know, in point blank range, on and
on and on fail. Mary. We've talked about it, and
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the hangover of that led to another pathetic effort against Arizona.
So right now a tail spin there. We talked about
the the Raiders and Saints with firings of coaches. Now
it becomes the all right, what do you expect from
either Nothing? I play Alvin Kamara and that's it. And
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in Raiderville we play Bowers and forget about anything else.
Speaker 3 (35:45):
Seems like a winning strategy to me, right.
Speaker 2 (35:48):
No matter how bad they are, someone's putting up stats
and they're not going to stop those guys altogether.
Speaker 3 (35:53):
It's opportunities jinks jinks. And it's also why Kareem Hunt
is good for the Chiefs tonight. I think he had
twenty seven care for like one o three or one
oh four.
Speaker 2 (36:02):
Second half chunk yardage early on, not a lot, but
commit to the run, good things happen. It's like old
school football comes back again. Yay, old people, all right.
Coming up next, we're gonna do the waiver while real quick,
a couple of pickups for week ten as we look
at the slate. Four bye week teams on the slate
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this week. No Cleveland, no Green Bay, no Raiders, thank you,
and no Seattle Seahawks. We'll do waiver wires coming up here,
including a pick or two on the defensive side from
our guy Ian Roddy. That's next here on I Watch Flex. Hey,
welcome back, I Watch Flex. Final segment of this episode.
As we wrap all things week nine, start looking ahead
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to week ten, it's time for the waiver wire pickups
of the week. Number one, right off the jump, your
guy Aaron Rodgers. Am I banking on them to be
world beaters week after week? Hell no, but opportunity here.
Arizona's a tricky defense week to week. But they did
a good job of handling the Bears. Aaron Rodgers obviously
much more composed with a better plan himself. Not that
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Hacket's helping or anybody else there and downing, etc. No,
it's about Aaron Rodgers and what he does in between
the white lines is going to be better than anything
the Bears did. So curiosity here, but own know only
in about fifty percent of leagues. Justin Herbert winging the
ball around a little bit more. You got balance between
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the run game and the pass game for the Chargers
and coming up a big spot against the Tennessee Titans.
Tickets only seventeen bucks e. And if you got Sunday
afternoon to go hang out, you can go and do
that a little bit. You got Russell Wilson coming out
of the Bibek against Washington, hang a star on it,
not expecting explosive, but coming out of a buy Maybe
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they find to wrinkle something and reinvigorated. George Pickens going
back to week, maybe that builds right. You also so
Naji Harris have his best game, so maybe that offense
has unlocked something. If nothing else, it's worth the defensive
play to stat him on your bench in case the
Pittsburgh offense does show signs of life. He's available in
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about eighty percent of leagues running backs. We go to
the other side of that Pittsburgh running tandem, Jalen Warren
touchcount deflated a little bit by Najie Harris, but still
part of the action. Ray Davis a bit of an
insurance policy with James Cook in Buffalo, but seeing some
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touches himself, actually found the end zone against the Dolphins,
So opportunity there. The return imminently of Christian McCaffrey maybe
downplays Guarndo pickup. But again we're talking about a second
half of the season. Is McCaffrey going to be able
to play a full second half? I don't know because
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of the Week nine by got dropped. With the imminent
return of McCaffrey, perhaps he's a guy that you speculate
stash the bench might pay some dividends later on. All right,
wide receiver position really quickly as we bang it out.
Johnston going back to the Chargers had the big sixty
(39:21):
six yard touchdown catch. He's available in about two thirds
of leagues. Parker Washington next man up for the Jaguars.
Desperation makes for strange bedfellows. Elijah Moore in Cleveland. Trusting
the Cleveland offense is something that's very difficult. But you
know Jameis Winston's gonna keep firing, so you can also
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check for him on the waiver wire as well. Bye
week again for week ten, but again the stash and
potential plays. And DeMarcus Robinson of the Rams another two
touchdown performance. Health of cup Nikko availability gets thrown out
week nine, but Robinson five touchdowns in the last four weeks,
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so a guy who's a big play threat. And again,
desperation brings us to the table when we're talking about
ineffective wide receiver positions. And finally, Taysom Hill New Orleans.
We talked about Kamara. Slipped my mind about Taysom Hill.
Maybe he's got to play some quarterback again, but certainly
one of the most effective tight ends coming back off
(40:26):
of the rib injury, inserted himself right back into the mix.
And while everything else was a disappointment, and New Orleans,
by the fact, that they lost their seventh straight fired
their coach for fantasy purposes. Again, some guys are going
to create some numbers. They're not walking out with full zeros.
So find the diamond in the rough, particularly at a
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rough position at tight end.
Speaker 3 (40:48):
If Hill gets in at quarterbacks, that's the biggest cheat
code you can possibly have in fantasy.
Speaker 2 (40:53):
Which we've seen in past years. Where you've got the
dual position eligibility, the old fight, not.
Speaker 3 (41:01):
Simply putish is not fair, but there's no easy way
obviously around it for you know, ESPN and Yahoo the companies.
Speaker 2 (41:08):
But well, where some of it is, you're right, you've
got the position eligibility. When it comes to how many
leagues are using dual quarterbacks or the advent of the
superflex that way, it doesn't matter. So you can put
whoever you want there and that's fine. And so maybe
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a little bit of a cheat. I think he's a
better tight end than he is, Like he was a
cheat when he was a tight end and had quarterback eligibility.
He was outscoring a lot of quarterbacks that way. But
either way, from the defensive side, anything that stood out
for you as we look at the matchups of Week ten.
Speaker 3 (41:50):
I'm thinking the New York Giants are a good pick
up because they're only five percent rostered. And the biggest
thing though, is that they're going to Germany to face
the Panthers. The Panthers all season have kind of been
one of those teams that you want to chase after
for the defenses, especially with Bryce Young under center again again,
you know, he is a former number one overall pick.
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You never know, the ceiling is always high for him.
But he's someone that just has not been able to
put it together yet. And I don't think against a
team like the Giants, who actually have a pretty good defense,
that's something that kind of goes goes unnoticed a lot
of the time because the fact that they're two and seven,
but the Giants defense is pretty good. Dexter Lawrence might
be the best defensive player in the league, and that's
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you know, obviously maybe that's hyperbole, but a lot of
people are of that opinion. He's leading the league in
saxony as a nose tackle, So yeah, I.
Speaker 2 (42:42):
Love my wall of mean when it comes to nose tackles.
That's my goal. When when I move into a new space,
I'm going to start assembling autograph jerseys of all the
greatest nose tackles that's NFL history, and he'll be one
of them. Giants are actually five point favorites in Germany.
Speaker 3 (43:00):
There you go, all the more reason to stream their defense,
which again are only five percent rostered right now, So
put in your claims.
Speaker 2 (43:07):
Solid pick up there no question about it. I and
at Ian Roddy underscore where you find him in the
Twitter verse. Find me over at Swollen Dome. Find our
colleague Dan Bayer at Dan Byer on Fox. Dan will
be back later on in the week as we get
ready to get into the throes of Week ten. When
you next hear us, we'll be talking about the trade deadline,
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the impact deals and ones that didn't happen in the interim.
Hopefully you had a successful Week nine, you survived your
Kia teen leagues and came away with another victory. Are
a lot of more I'm now talking like I'm clever,
laying going back to Rocky three and I'm beating up
on Rocky. A lot more football still in the offing.
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The first half has certainly given us a lot of
twists and turns. Can't wait to see what's on the board.
As we continued the journey. As always, we appreciate you
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(44:11):
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Speaker 2 (00:33):
Grittings and welcome in wrapping up and exciting, exhilarating week
nine in the National Football League. Welcome in as I
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Dan Byer on assignment, Doug Gottlie of our colleague at
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perhaps cheered himself a little bit horse, but on travel today.
(00:56):
So it's just Ian and I as we look back
on what was a wildcare a week nine that ended
with fireworks in Kansas City.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
Yeah, it was a good Monday night football game. I
you know, a little disappointed to see the Chiefs still
still undefeated because my biggest question was why didn't the
Buccaneers go for two.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
That is the question that we'll be asked repeatedly in
the cycle. Jason Smith and I did quite a bit
of it on Monday night playing the Todd Bowles explanation,
which frankly Ian had made no sense, made zero sense.
And part of it as we owed it to the defensive,
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thinking of bowls of we'll be able to get it,
we'll be able to hold them down, we'll get the
ball back. Whatever. But in the moment, just looking at
game situation, you're giving the ball back to Patrick mahons
w with aout a half a minute left, they have
all their timeouts remaining, and the way the kickoff rules work,
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you're getting the ball where you need to move it.
What about thirty yards? That's it. Thirty yards in thirty seconds.
And if Travis Kelsey doesn't drop a pass over the middle,
that gets tipped and and ultimately and you know, almost
intercepted by Winfield and didn't and then Mahomes nearly gave
Winfield won the next play. Yeah, but the Kelsey play,
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if he makes that completion, you need about eight yards
and you're in Butcker's range. Because they were showing the
montage of everything he was doing pregame and obviously maybe
because of the wet field, which is one of the
reasons Todd Bowle used. I mean he actually went Millie
Vinilli and blamed it on the rain, which is just unbelievable.
But you're giving the ball to Mahomes there, and then
(02:38):
you're gonna go to a coin flip for overtime when
the at the two the two point play now this
year is I cited on the show. You can find
the podcast to what Jason and I did. Uh, the
the long form of all of this argument, including the
Bowls SoundBite wherever you get your podcast, wherever you downloaded this,
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of course, but it's basically been a coin toss in
its history every year forty to fifty five percent. For
some reason in twenty twenty four, which I'm curious to
go if I were to get a long form super
cut of all the two point conversions. Why it's down
so dramatically, But through the games heading into Monday Night,
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teams were only successful at a thirty one percent clip
last year was fifty five percent. So like a huge swing,
something is a miss. But either way, you're playing for
a coin flip on that play, and then you have
to win another coin flip, and then well you still
have to go execute as an offense or in this case,
(03:45):
as a defense, which you failed to do all of it.
To say, I think you showed cowardice and you didn't
trust your offense, Baker Mayfield, who just drove you down
on a seventy yard drive. You gave up two very
long for tracted drives to the Chiefs in the second half,
a total of twenty nine plays. And I want to
(04:05):
say it was just under fifteen minutes of football time
that you don't think you can get two yards in
that moment You just called a great play to get
Miller opened for the touchdown. Like why the coward is ian?
Speaker 3 (04:18):
I couldn't tell you. I couldn't tell you, but but
I don't miss Todd Bowles as the Jets coach. So
it is kind of a little you know, it does
make me a little happy.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
Do you think it's because he's got some residual Jets
in his bloodstream?
Speaker 3 (04:28):
I think so. I think I must have rubbed off.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
He hasn't gotten the extra team to get it out
of him, like Sam Darnold.
Speaker 3 (04:37):
Wash out the Jets stink. Yeah, No, that's definitely, that's
definitely what it is.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
I'm sure just a very difficult proposition, especially like the
Chiefs first half struggles. But we come out of this
game from a fantasy perspective, which is, you know what
we're charged to do here. You find me at Swallowen Dome,
find Ian at Ian, Roddy underscore, find Dan harassed him
at Dan Byron Fox is All of a sudden, DeAndre
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Hopkins was finding space right where they were almost perfect
on the night together. Now, Travis Kelce, if you didn't
sell early back to back ten plus catch games for
him and Patrick Mahomes for the second straight week. Last
week he scored nineteen points. Here you got two ninety
one and three all of a sudden. If you were
(05:25):
sitting holding or you bought low Patrick Mahomes second half
of the season suddenly that much more intriguing because you
saw as the game war on, you also have a
viable running back who's probably gonna be a back end
one going forward in Kareem Hunt twenty seven carries against
and Tampa Bay's defense. For out all the accolades of
bowls and reputation, they haven't been very good in many circumstances.
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But on this night, suddenly, for the second half of
the season, I think you're in bold and if you're
holding any of those Chiefs trio.
Speaker 3 (05:55):
Definitely it was I was really happy. I mean, I
don't like the Chiefs, Don't get me wrong, I don't
like to see them still go undefeated, but it was
I did like to see DeAndre Hopkins kind of have
a little bit of a revival and see him have
some success, because he really has been kind of in
fantasy purgatory the last few years, banished to have Will
Levis as his quarterback.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
Levis, you go to Arizona with Kyler Murray. He was
good in Arizona when they were together, right, right, But
then you had a bunch of journeyman quarterback filling in
of course there, So yeah, I changed certainly a change
in good fortune.
Speaker 3 (06:31):
But him the other end of the spectrum from DeAndre Hopkins,
Xavier Worthy was awful tonight. And actually if you started him,
he would have lost you a point, which I actually
benefited from because yes, because I was in a matchup
and I needed him to go zero points, have absolutely nothing.
That was the only way I was going to win
(06:51):
because I was up by less than a point and
he ended up losing a point for my opponents. So
thank you Xavier Worthy for that.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
Sweet victory to Carr's minus ten yards accounting for that
did not record a catch on the night. On his
two targets, Man Kelsey fourteen catches, one hundred yards, sixteen targets,
no touchdowns. But that's still a twenty four point night.
That is a nice tasty But he finds a way
(07:20):
to get open, like that's just it, and you marvel right,
it was Gronk before him. Now he does that. We've
watched it with the Cowboys. Now we'll talk about the
injury to Ceede Lamb as we go through our report
card for the week. But same thing. It's like, you've
got no other options yet somehow this guy's open. Explain
this to me like I'm a five year old. But
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on the other side, Kate Aughton, a lot of people
had speculated, not us, that somehow the Chiefs would take
him away being the number one option. They don't defend
tight ends. That's the one thing with the Kansas City defense,
as good as they are, you're gonna move the ball ot.
In eight catches, seventy seven yards and a score on
eleven targets. Another big night for him and Baker. Mayfield
(08:02):
salvaged what was a pretty pedestrian effort in that final
final drive as he gets up to two hundred yards
and two scores. For a nice serviceable, workmanlike effort and
better that I would have anticipated. I had him in
the Colts stores as part of our checklist and running
to I mean, that's not terrible, but not not world beating,
(08:25):
but certainly a lot better than some of the other
efforts we saw from the quarterback position this weekend. But
a thirty to twenty four game. If you were watching
at halftime when it was ten to seven, you might
have been looking for whatever else might have been on
on a Monday night. Instead, the second half gave you fireworks.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
We actually we almost saw Carson Wentz in the second half.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
We did.
Speaker 3 (08:46):
I got excited there. I actually started laughing when I
saw him.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
When you saw him up in Warring, I.
Speaker 3 (08:50):
Was like, I forgot he was the chief's backup. How
that would have been kind of a little treat to
get to see him. Yeah, Mahomes got right back out.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
Yeah. For folks that didn't see it, Mahomes on a
on a scramble on a touchdown pass actually but because
the defenders broken broke their coverage to come up and
try to bury him. But non contact injury left ankle
foot like just everything seemed to buckle.
Speaker 3 (09:16):
Yeah, it was weird, Like, yeah, it's just he took
a step that looked awkward or whatever, but thankfully he
was okay.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
Be curious in the reports and obviously recording this late
Monday night West Coast time, how much that foot and
ankle swells.
Speaker 3 (09:32):
I think he rolled it last week as well too,
so it might have been him like reaggravating that or something.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
So just looks so uncomfortable. He actually was getting helped
walking around. He had a guy under each shoulder, and
then he was back and.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
Then he was jogging on the sideline and the crowd
was cheering and stuff.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
Like just a little pero, maybe a little bit. Maybe
he wanted to put on a show for Taylor, who
was back in the crowd. You entertained us, Now let
me entertain you. Look at me. I'm injured, unless I'm not.
So all of that to say, there's your Monday night
football recap. Fun and exciting to end what was a
wild Week nine in the National Football League. As we continue,
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we'll go through our scorecard, take a review of the good,
the bad, the ugly off of our preview episode. I
don't know a mixed bag. I think more wins than losses,
but certainly some questions to be asked as we get
ready for week ten, He's Ian Roddy had Ian Roddy Underscore,
find me over at Swollen Dome, Mike harmon Ian Roddy
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with you, Dan byer On a sign and more. I
Watch your Flex coming up next. I Watch Flex continues
looking back at the games of week nine, putting under
the microscope, a lot of the predictions as we go
through the rankings each week, the hot plays cold, socores, ninjas,
a lot of opportunities for greatness, a lot of cautionary tales,
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and then occasionally, well we might miss. And in the end,
I'm trying to talk it into existence for you and
your fantasy squads. And sometimes you know what, the good
old football world Ian doesn't quite cooperate with the prognostication skills.
Speaker 3 (11:12):
No it doesn't, but those are the ones that we
don't acknowledge. We only acknowledge the wins.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
Past performance, not indicative of future returns as we're watching
late night infomercials. We had good success at the quarterback position.
Jalen Hurts with another big day. He was number two
on the week. He was number one on my rankings list.
Joe Burrow was in the top five, Lamar Jackson, and
you got Josh Allen there. Jayden Daniels finishes the top ten,
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so we'll take that as a victory. So long as
you're a QB one, you're there. From the ninja side
of things. Did put in bo Nix as a guy
he had to look Actually I had him as a
hot play. He finished as QB fifteen, which isn't world beating,
and it wasn't because he was a quarterback. I'm going
to take the spike because he was a receiver and
caught that touchdown pass and he actually looked like he
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knew what he was doing there. So Sean Payton can
get into his bag a little bit.
Speaker 3 (12:05):
The throw by Sutton and the catch by Knicks were
both just them out of position, looking like they were
like top five at their position.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
How great I mean, Courtland Sutton gets into the fantasy
books as a great performance. It's all on a relative.
Like what you saw from the wide receivers this week
is you had some thirties and then it dropped off
real fast into the low teens. And for Sutton, I
mean that was his impact play of the day. Otherwise
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didn't do a whole lot as we watched Denver get
throbbed in a game that I think most of us
really didn't expect that. Now, I obviously Denver's defense hadn't
faced a world class scheduled to that point, but you
also don't expect Vance Joseph squad to get worked the
way they did. And Baltimore, Lamar Jackson, Derrick Henry and
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company really just an impressive effort overall.
Speaker 3 (13:00):
They're they're unfair. They're unfair. How did we let Derek
Henry and Lamar Jackson end up on the same team.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
Well, that's that's the funny thing. You get ask Jerry Jones.
You couldn't figure out how to find eight million dollars
or ten million dollars.
Speaker 3 (13:12):
Do they do something at the trade deadline for a
running back or is it too late? That's the real question.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
Well, that that is that is one of the But
now with Dak Prescott.
Speaker 3 (13:20):
Crack, our conversation entirely.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
No, no at all. But with Dak Prescott now hurt, how
much do you like.
Speaker 3 (13:25):
The running back position A point?
Speaker 2 (13:27):
Yeah, I mean, and what do you have to sell
as well? There ain't a lot. Like if I'm trying
to pick over the carcass of what that team is
right now, I'm not finding much. Right, Parsons and Bland
are finally Parsons potentially coming back to action.
Speaker 3 (13:43):
Can you trade Michael Parsons? That is the question. That
would too valuable, That would be crazy. Yeah, well it'd
be it'd be worth a lot of picks, is the point.
But that that's not even worth well, but if you.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
Got to do a hard reset, right, I mean, we're
gonna do a special Wednesday emergency episode because we do
have the trade deadline Tuesday after noon, So the three
of us will convene in some way, shape or form
to kind of go through the good, the bad, the ugly,
and the unexplainable ie which teams sit on the sideline of.
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It's been pretty busy already, Ian, right, I mean we've
seen I mean, we're just talking about DeAndre Hopkins, right,
and unfortunately for some of the guys that got dealt.
It ended badly, right, Stefan Diggs looked like he was
going to be in a great place. Nico Collins will
come back. Let's see what see. It doesn't fix their
offensive line, that leaky offensive line in Houston. But part
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of it I think CJ. Stroud holding on to the
ball too long, waiting for secondary receivers to become a
listers at times.
Speaker 3 (14:42):
How much is his fault though, and Tank that is
your top guy.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
Well, but that's the thing, right, it becomes the you know,
trying to pull the strings. But look, the offensive line
wasn't very good before the Collins injury, and right now
you're into the thirties and sacks, which is what he
had all of last year. So you're already into a
very dangerous place, all right, But we'll continue back to
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the report card. I did have Patrick Mahomes in my
top five, which was a bit bold that I had
him as my number five quarterback. Was done, sir, So
I'm going to take a victory lap with the two
ninety one and three. Again, it's all about how it finishes,
because it was not a pretty game for the most part.
Speaker 3 (15:21):
Not at all. It does feel like his major explosive
fantasy days are kind of over those days of like
five six touchdown passes that you know from that first
year as a starter, and like, you know those few
few years from that point on that he was kind
of like the go to number one advantage of the position.
Kind of feels like that's over.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
Yeah, we had a little bit of fun with it
on Monday night, Smith and I because about two weeks
into the season we had brought in the data and
what we watched a year ago. Because offensively it was
not a masterpiece by any stretch, but he found right right,
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you give me the ball in the final minutes. It
was very much as we termed it then and we
term it now. We even brought it up at the
at some point towards the end of last year. It's
very reminiscent of the old school Brady Patriots in those
early years. As you remember as a Jets fan as
a kid, probably being introduced to the game and saying,
this is not fair to where spot on spot right.
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I mean, like you would have been very little Ian
at that point. But the just the idea of we've
got a good defense, run game serviceable, but Brady'll make
a play as he needs to. It's not gaudy statistics.
But we got Mahomes and the offense where the latter
year Tom Brady Patriots, where you're winging and around, he's
at forty plus touchdowns whatever. Now it's the inverse of
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the Patriots. The second act looks a lot like Tom
Brady's first act.
Speaker 3 (16:52):
Yeah, and that's what the greats can do. Because me
saying that was in no way meaning to say that,
you know, Mahomes is not great or that is great,
and this is going downs. He's actually getting better if
you watch it's it's just from a fantasy person, what's
needed of them? Yeah, exactly, from a fantasy person.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
It's not a pinball running up and down. You don't
have Tyreek Hill there. I think as we were.
Speaker 3 (17:13):
Talking about, by the way, is that Tyreek Hill could
be the favorite that the landing spot Kansas City.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
Well, but that's the thing, right if Miami decides, And again,
as we record this, it's late on Monday night, a
lot of time before the deadline, and by the time
you're listening to this, maybe it's already happened. But can
you go and if a team is decided, they're waving
the flag right if they're putting up the white towel
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their duke in Rocky four and just said no that
they actually do, then all of a sudden, Tyreek Hill
back in play. I mean, there are still a number
of wide receivers on some pretty bad teams that maybe
find their way to greener pastures and can open things up.
But I think I was encouraged from the game against
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Tampa and again to hang a star on their secondary
is nothing to write home about, except for Winfield, of course,
but the opportunity looks like you've at least got a
tag team partner for Travis Kelcey as he's gotten back
into true Travis Kelcey's shape and his import on the
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team has grown. Kareem Hunt as a runner instead of Pachecko.
You finally have that guy back, so maybe we've got
better days. Am I going to be so bold as
to put him as the top five guy each week? No,
not yet. I got to see it again, but this
one just felt like a good opportunity as a squad
that was kind to be written off. I also thought
Baker would need to press and that maybe you'd get
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a short field or two to work with, but they'd
be able to cash in on those chips. But either way,
two ninety one and three, I'm taking the victory. I
had Nick Chubb as a cold soar everybody's like Nick
Chubb's back, He's great. They're playing the Chargers, They're doing nothing.
He finished as running back seventy two for the week. Also,
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Jamar Chase was on my cold source. He finished as
wide receiver thirty three on the week as well, and
that was pending the final import of the Monday night game.
So you've got that. So I would guess with Kelsey's
game and a couple others that were actually looking at
thirty six. But either way, you go through Saqua top five. Fine.
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Some other big opportunities there up front. Bijon Robinson finished
top ten. Big fail for me in the lost column.
Kyrien Williams. You get the big effort from the Rams,
but his scoreless scoring streak and all of the big
fantasy games he had comes to it, and he finished
outside of the top twenty four at the running back position,
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and so that one I'll take a kick to the
teeth there. Jamir Gibbs was in a number three on
my board. He finished seventeenth. Za Flowers thought Patrick Certan
would be the guy keeping him in check.
Speaker 3 (20:05):
No.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
Two touchdowns and wide receiver number three for the week,
So I lose their.
Speaker 3 (20:12):
Josh checked out, The logic checked out on that one.
Speaker 2 (20:15):
It seemed like fine. And then unfortunately, because you have
to take care of the sledgehammer that is Henry the
scrambler to screw you, that is Lamar Jackson, that there's
going to be an opportunity.
Speaker 3 (20:27):
That's what I mean. It's unfair there.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
On the same time, at this point we are talking
unfair Coldzoy also had Jacobs because of the injury status
against Detroit. He finished number ten with some receptions, so
you had some opportunity there. And then everything going on
with Indianapolis Flacco downs just an absolute failure. I don't
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know that it could have been worse with Anthony Richardson
on the field, the way that looked on Sunday Night
Football and that game was flexed to the national audience.
Speaker 3 (20:56):
Ian Yeah that they had to come out swinging on
offense in that game. They had to put up something
better than they did. With the fact that if you're
going to bench someone you drafted fourth overall for Joe Flacco,
who the whole reasoning was that he would give you
a better chance to win, and then A you didn't win,
and B you didn't put up better offense than you
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you know, have been with Richardson. It's like, what was
even the point to.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
Be your only touchdown comes on a defensive score right
right in the first half, and.
Speaker 3 (21:23):
What do you do, Like, do you bring Richardson back?
Speaker 2 (21:25):
Now?
Speaker 3 (21:26):
You can't backtrack it. This is point.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
This is where this was a failed construction. And we
talked about it a lot on the shows Bucky Brooks
and I on Sunday Morning and and Smith and I
and I think we've done some of it here on
a I watch your flex through the through the season
is if you bring in Joe Flacco, you're telling me
you're thinking you can win this year.
Speaker 3 (21:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:47):
Right, he was the SOT backup available, right, So if
Richardson gets hurt or is ineffective, Flatco's there because you've
got a steady hand. And don't tell me he's just
there to try to coach him up from the sideline. No,
that guy's still a vilable, viable quarterback, as we saw
in Cleveland a year ago. So by bringing him in
and now putting him in as a starter, you're telling
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me you think he can go win games. And if
that's the offensive game plan that Steichen and company come
up with, and like Brian Flores, after a couple of
really rough games, had that defense flying around again. Maybe
they started reading some of the press and getting ticked off,
but it was such a pedestrian effort, and you had
Jonathan Taylor available too, right, Right, it wasn't like you
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were going to one of your secondary tertiary backs, like
you had full upfront and center. Every bit of your
weaponry had put up six points.
Speaker 3 (22:40):
Right, I mean, it is worth at least conceding that
they were going against a very good defense in the Vikings.
But it just goes back to the fact that, like,
if you were going to bench Richardson, regardless of who
the defense you were facing, this just had to be
your best effort, your best foot forward on offense. Just
show everyone that, like, we can win game with Richardson
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on the bench.
Speaker 2 (23:01):
I mean, because from a roster perspective coming into the
year would have said, all right, giant question mark on Richardson,
but everything else checks out, which is why you bring
in Flacco, but then you're trying to figure out exactly
where you stand. So if you make this move pushing
richardson to the side and again very green. We all
know the narratives we've been talking, but this effort was
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just next level and probably submarined a lot of fantasy
leagues this week. And not that I would have expected
a three hundred and three score performance from Flacco, but
just everybody tore you down, from Pittman Junior to Downs
to Taylor like all just disappointments and Flacco himself because
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the quarterback position, Let's face it, we've been trying to
find diamonds in the rough week after week because there's
very few consistent options. So another failed there. Now. I
put also the incomplete Abby in just because we we
got starts and then we didn't get to finish. So
Chris Alave just a brutal, brutal play. He's probably done
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for the year. I don't expect to see him again
at this point. Dennis Allen gets fired, he walks the plank.
Week two seems like a year ago, now, doesn't it.
Speaker 3 (24:18):
Yeah, they were two and oh coming off the the
dominant way. It was the Panthers and the Cowboys.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
Well they beat the hell out of the Cowboys. Right now,
realize they're terrible, but at that point they still had
all the time.
Speaker 3 (24:29):
It was really impressive. Yeah, which now obviously we can
see it wasn't as impressive as we thought. But but yeah,
I feel for a lave man because it's it's not
just that that injuries have been common for him. It's
that like head injuries have been caught. But that's the
greatest one. And yeah, a lot of people have been
blaming car for that throw. Michael Thomas, former former team
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Michael Thomas is beating that. That that fan club or
anti fan club, whatever you want to call it. But yeah,
that that's a whole situation in itself. But just really
prayers up for a lot of it.
Speaker 2 (25:01):
Yeah, it was a tough watch. They say he's doing okay.
There was some check ins from friend's family.
Speaker 3 (25:07):
Well apparently he was back at the locker room. Like
by the end of the game. They discharged him from
the hospital. I guess he wanted to be around when
they fired Alan or something.
Speaker 2 (25:15):
He wanted to go sign off on it or something.
I get to have a vote, maybe Dallas Ceedee Lamb
leaves with an injury. Doesn't look like it's gonna be
too serious, but enough to where we've got to monitor it. Now,
Dak Prescott's gonna miss a minimum of a two games,
so that they're saying might go on ir and the
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way the schedule shakes out, we may not see Dak
Prescott again.
Speaker 3 (25:39):
Cooper Rush Show, Cooper.
Speaker 2 (25:41):
Rush, and I heard a lot of the cacophony of
voices going, you gotta see what you have in Trey Lance,
Like trade deadline is less than twelve hours or about
twelve hours from where we're finishing the recording of this podcast,
Trey Lance doesn't get to show you anything on tape.
And even so, what are you getting a conditional third
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day pick? Even if he played well, what are you
going to try to shop his preseason efforts? He throw
five picks in a game for crying out loud. So yeah,
Cooper Rush and whatever it is I mean outside of
C D Lamp, I guess Ferguson becomes a bigger play
tight end position, being as unsteady as it is. But
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young quarterbacks, not that Rush hasn't had some experience, but
it's not like they're going to have him chucking the
ball all over the place.
Speaker 3 (26:32):
Those are the safety blanket.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
Yeah, the tight end back out of the backfield. So
doubtell as a receiver again, I want no part of
that trio. Mind you. Whether Zeke Elliott's still with the
team by time we finish recording, this is a question.
Speaker 3 (26:46):
Shared situation there.
Speaker 2 (26:48):
It's a yeah, odd sent left home for disciplinary reasons,
creating chaos where there already was. So we'll look at
the As you look at the depth chart for the Cowboy,
it's always the when a new quarterback comes flying back
up and in, it's like, all right, who was he
working with on the second team is kind of where
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we want to go to try to find a little
bit of love, particularly as we think maybe about the
waiver wire and those kind of opportunities. And so as
we look at the depth dart for the Cowboys, target
potentials that start flowing in floorne seven with squad Cavante
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Turpin like this now becomes the winging up prayer. This
is like the Dollar DraftKings kind of kind of setting.
Speaker 3 (27:37):
Up a team we could like play a game, you know,
like Cavino and Rech they do like you know, Olympian
or Chipotle worker. We could do, you know, like Cowboys
player or McDonald's worker or something, and just these are
random names. No one's ever heard of.
Speaker 2 (27:51):
Who is this guy? Yeah, so, I mean we know
Tolbert and you know we've seen Turpin a little bit,
Special teams and other but yeah, now you're trying to
find extra bodies, particularly if Lam ends up missing anytime,
so that's potentially huge. So those are some of the
the incompletes on the report card, but also injury situations
to watch you want to check in. I know we
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had Berschinger in. But one of the things I think
we'll look at is what we'll get you with the
waiver wire defense, not just a streamer, which we'll do
in our Thursday episode as we preview the week in full,
but as we get to the waivers, we'll do that.
Anything from week nine that stood out to you.
Speaker 3 (28:31):
The Rams definitely stood out big time against the Seahawks.
So obviously the Seahawks have been kind of shooting themselves
in the foot a lot, so you know how much
of it is due to that, But they've had some
big performances and they're led by young guys rookies too,
so that's you know, if you're in a dynasty league,
it could be extra worth picking up for a defense there.
Speaker 2 (28:50):
But just on a grander scale, though, take it out
of the defenses for a moment as you watch the
games of Week nine, any any performance that kind of
raised your eyebrow or maybe from your own fantasy good, bad,
ugly kind of circumstances that you want to highlight coming
out of the week.
Speaker 3 (29:08):
That was As a Jets fan, I was very, very
happy to see Garrett Wilson and DeVante Adams come through
with big games. Obviously, you know, we'll see how sustainable
that is. I've been pretty vocal on this podcast about
the Jets and how I kind of feel that the
season's kind of over. We'll see, they're kind of clawing
their way back in, we'll see. But yeah, Garrett Wilson
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thirty fantasy points. Was pretty cool to see wide receiver
three on the season right now. I think so. Actually,
even though early in the season it looked like he
wasn't really coming through on that draft position, he has
since and I wonder if DeVante Adams being there has
actually been a really big benefactor.
Speaker 2 (29:46):
Yeah, even with the down week, jamar Cha is still
number one in PPR leagues, Jefferson sitting at the number
two spot. Garrett Wilson is less than a point behind
Jefferson for the two slot. Lamb Drake London. Chris Godwin,
who hasn't played in two weeks, is still at number six,
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showing how proficient and effective that connection was, with Baker
Mayfield rounding out the top ten. Terry McLaurin, I'm on
raw same brown, Zay Flowers, and Jaden Reid. Jaden Reid
is number ten amongst wide receivers despite he had a
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thirty three point game go all the way back in
week one, so you got that. He had a twenty
seven point game in week four. Otherwise, you've got three
games under eight, including a three point performance. You've got
a couple of thirteen sixteen point again fourteen, like two
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monster games are enough to make him the number ten
receiver in the game.
Speaker 3 (30:55):
And then I guess someone else to point ou would
be Brock Bowers. I don't know if we've really mentioned
him a ton on this podcast yet, but is he
the best? I mean, yeah, he's the number one, is
number one fantasy as a rookie, which I guess Georgia
fans saw it coming. The rest of us kind of
thought it would be a little a little bit more
gradual of a.
Speaker 2 (31:14):
Just a rise that I mean, because you also had
mayor that you were expecting who's been away from the team. Yeah,
so you know, and again not a lot of details,
And I'll be honest, I haven't done a ton of
digging to try to find answers like stuff like that.
When a guy's away from the team.
Speaker 3 (31:29):
Kind of feels like you're crossing a line if you do.
Speaker 2 (31:31):
Just you know, it's I mean, your curiosity of you.
You would like to know, but I figure we'll get
the answer in due time. Just hope he and all
his are okay. But for Bowers, I mean I thought
he'd be an impact player, not to this level. Yeah right,
I mean you're thinking, all right, top ten, that they'd
have the dual tight end thing. And I always I'm
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reticent ever to really go deep down into that New
England well because of what Air and Hernandez's story became.
But when they were on the field together, you didn't
really have wide receivers that mattered. It was Hernanda's picker
poison in that regard, and I thought that was going
to be the case with the Raiders with DeVante Adams,
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and you know that you'd have enough depth that wide
receiver that might be interesting. YEA, regardless of the fact
that you didn't trust the quarterbacks.
Speaker 3 (32:30):
Well, it's just the way the things have played out
to have played into how well he's been because, like
you said, DeVante Adams is gone, Michael Mayer has been
away from the team, and then and then we kind
of nodded to it earlier. But the fact that young
or more inexperienced quarterbacks tend to, you know, lean on
the tight end position, and Minsh's not young and inexperienced,
but he's you know, he's someone who's gonna want to
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lean on his safety blanket.
Speaker 2 (32:53):
Morey also doing a good job of, you know, let's
face it, force the ball in and allow him to
make a play. He's big, physical and gets after it.
And you're talking outside of you know, two performances going
back to weeks three and four, he hasn't been outside
of double digits the rest of the year, which at
the tight end position is absolute gold. Number two to
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him is George Kittle, who's had his by and missed
a week still number two, number three, twenty points behind.
Speaker 3 (33:24):
That is Trey McBride, McBride's third. That's it because he
I might be wrong, but I don't think he has
a receiving touchdown.
Speaker 2 (33:33):
He doesn't need.
Speaker 3 (33:33):
That is crazy, the third third tight end on the
year without a receiving touchdown. That's really saying.
Speaker 2 (33:38):
Tucker Kraft sitting at number four, and the always enigmatic
and curious Kyle Pitts is number five, again showing the
volatility of the position. Because you have the twenty five
point game in week eight, a fifteen point game in
week five. Otherwise you've got a zero, a five, a
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two point point one eleven. There's a couple of other
solid weeks, but really one massive week. It's been enough
to get it. Get him there. Kay Dotton now rising
up as well after his big day in week nine,
he'll he'll be up amongst the leaders here. I think
he's he's behind McBride. I think right now if you
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add those points back in Kelsey rising up as well,
I would say one guy that was a huge disappointment
this week, as well as the entire squad. I could
do a half hour on the Bears. I'm not gonna,
but I could do about the failures of the Bears.
Cole Comet had no catches. Yeah, no target hurt me
in a few weeks. Well that's how I got sent
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home from the guillotines in week eight was the ineffectiveness
of the Bears offense in what seemed like a solid
spot against the Washington Commanders.
Speaker 3 (34:51):
And I know that hurts you fantasy wise and personally
as a Bears fan. So I'm double sorry, Mike.
Speaker 2 (34:56):
No, I mean the Bears thing, you know, there was
just myriad problems. Why are you still have all your timeouts?
Why are you running an offensive lineman? Especially when Roshawn
Johnson and later on would score is four to four?
It read, you know, in point blank range, on and
on and on fail. Mary. We've talked about it, and
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the hangover of that led to another pathetic effort against Arizona.
So right now a tail spin there. We talked about
the the Raiders and Saints with firings of coaches. Now
it becomes the all right, what do you expect from
either Nothing? I play Alvin Kamara and that's it. And
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in Raiderville we play Bowers and forget about anything else.
Speaker 3 (35:45):
Seems like a winning strategy to me, right.
Speaker 2 (35:48):
No matter how bad they are, someone's putting up stats
and they're not going to stop those guys altogether.
Speaker 3 (35:53):
It's opportunities jinks jinks. And it's also why Kareem Hunt
is good for the Chiefs tonight. I think he had
twenty seven care for like one o three or one
oh four.
Speaker 2 (36:02):
Second half chunk yardage early on, not a lot, but
commit to the run, good things happen. It's like old
school football comes back again. Yay, old people, all right.
Coming up next, we're gonna do the waiver while real quick,
a couple of pickups for week ten as we look
at the slate. Four bye week teams on the slate
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this week. No Cleveland, no Green Bay, no Raiders, thank you,
and no Seattle Seahawks. We'll do waiver wires coming up here,
including a pick or two on the defensive side from
our guy Ian Roddy. That's next here on I Watch Flex. Hey,
welcome back, I Watch Flex. Final segment of this episode.
As we wrap all things week nine, start looking ahead
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to week ten, it's time for the waiver wire pickups
of the week. Number one, right off the jump, your
guy Aaron Rodgers. Am I banking on them to be
world beaters week after week? Hell no, but opportunity here.
Arizona's a tricky defense week to week. But they did
a good job of handling the Bears. Aaron Rodgers obviously
much more composed with a better plan himself. Not that
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Hacket's helping or anybody else there and downing, etc. No,
it's about Aaron Rodgers and what he does in between
the white lines is going to be better than anything
the Bears did. So curiosity here, but own know only
in about fifty percent of leagues. Justin Herbert winging the
ball around a little bit more. You got balance between
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the run game and the pass game for the Chargers
and coming up a big spot against the Tennessee Titans.
Tickets only seventeen bucks e. And if you got Sunday
afternoon to go hang out, you can go and do
that a little bit. You got Russell Wilson coming out
of the Bibek against Washington, hang a star on it,
not expecting explosive, but coming out of a buy Maybe
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they find to wrinkle something and reinvigorated. George Pickens going
back to week, maybe that builds right. You also so
Naji Harris have his best game, so maybe that offense
has unlocked something. If nothing else, it's worth the defensive
play to stat him on your bench in case the
Pittsburgh offense does show signs of life. He's available in
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about eighty percent of leagues running backs. We go to
the other side of that Pittsburgh running tandem, Jalen Warren
touchcount deflated a little bit by Najie Harris, but still
part of the action. Ray Davis a bit of an
insurance policy with James Cook in Buffalo, but seeing some
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touches himself, actually found the end zone against the Dolphins,
So opportunity there. The return imminently of Christian McCaffrey maybe
downplays Guarndo pickup. But again we're talking about a second
half of the season. Is McCaffrey going to be able
to play a full second half? I don't know because
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of the Week nine by got dropped. With the imminent
return of McCaffrey, perhaps he's a guy that you speculate
stash the bench might pay some dividends later on. All right,
wide receiver position really quickly as we bang it out.
Johnston going back to the Chargers had the big sixty
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six yard touchdown catch. He's available in about two thirds
of leagues. Parker Washington next man up for the Jaguars.
Desperation makes for strange bedfellows. Elijah Moore in Cleveland. Trusting
the Cleveland offense is something that's very difficult. But you
know Jameis Winston's gonna keep firing, so you can also
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check for him on the waiver wire as well. Bye
week again for week ten, but again the stash and
potential plays. And DeMarcus Robinson of the Rams another two
touchdown performance. Health of cup Nikko availability gets thrown out
week nine, but Robinson five touchdowns in the last four weeks,
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so a guy who's a big play threat. And again,
desperation brings us to the table when we're talking about
ineffective wide receiver positions. And finally, Taysom Hill New Orleans.
We talked about Kamara. Slipped my mind about Taysom Hill.
Maybe he's got to play some quarterback again, but certainly
one of the most effective tight ends coming back off
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of the rib injury, inserted himself right back into the mix.
And while everything else was a disappointment, and New Orleans,
by the fact, that they lost their seventh straight fired
their coach for fantasy purposes. Again, some guys are going
to create some numbers. They're not walking out with full zeros.
So find the diamond in the rough, particularly at a
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rough position at tight end.
Speaker 3 (40:48):
If Hill gets in at quarterbacks, that's the biggest cheat
code you can possibly have in fantasy.
Speaker 2 (40:53):
Which we've seen in past years. Where you've got the
dual position eligibility, the old fight, not.
Speaker 3 (41:01):
Simply putish is not fair, but there's no easy way
obviously around it for you know, ESPN and Yahoo the companies.
Speaker 2 (41:08):
But well, where some of it is, you're right, you've
got the position eligibility. When it comes to how many
leagues are using dual quarterbacks or the advent of the
superflex that way, it doesn't matter. So you can put
whoever you want there and that's fine. And so maybe
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a little bit of a cheat. I think he's a
better tight end than he is, Like he was a
cheat when he was a tight end and had quarterback eligibility.
He was outscoring a lot of quarterbacks that way. But
either way, from the defensive side, anything that stood out
for you as we look at the matchups of Week ten.
Speaker 3 (41:50):
I'm thinking the New York Giants are a good pick
up because they're only five percent rostered. And the biggest
thing though, is that they're going to Germany to face
the Panthers. The Panthers all season have kind of been
one of those teams that you want to chase after
for the defenses, especially with Bryce Young under center again again,
you know, he is a former number one overall pick.
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You never know, the ceiling is always high for him.
But he's someone that just has not been able to
put it together yet. And I don't think against a
team like the Giants, who actually have a pretty good defense,
that's something that kind of goes goes unnoticed a lot
of the time because the fact that they're two and seven,
but the Giants defense is pretty good. Dexter Lawrence might
be the best defensive player in the league, and that's
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you know, obviously maybe that's hyperbole, but a lot of
people are of that opinion. He's leading the league in
saxony as a nose tackle, So yeah, I.
Speaker 2 (42:42):
Love my wall of mean when it comes to nose tackles.
That's my goal. When when I move into a new space,
I'm going to start assembling autograph jerseys of all the
greatest nose tackles that's NFL history, and he'll be one
of them. Giants are actually five point favorites in Germany.
Speaker 3 (43:00):
There you go, all the more reason to stream their defense,
which again are only five percent rostered right now, So
put in your claims.
Speaker 2 (43:07):
Solid pick up there no question about it. I and
at Ian Roddy underscore where you find him in the
Twitter verse. Find me over at Swollen Dome. Find our
colleague Dan Bayer at Dan Byer on Fox. Dan will
be back later on in the week as we get
ready to get into the throes of Week ten. When
you next hear us, we'll be talking about the trade deadline,
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the impact deals and ones that didn't happen in the interim.
Hopefully you had a successful Week nine, you survived your
Kia teen leagues and came away with another victory. Are
a lot of more I'm now talking like I'm clever,
laying going back to Rocky three and I'm beating up
on Rocky. A lot more football still in the offing.
(43:50):
The first half has certainly given us a lot of
twists and turns. Can't wait to see what's on the board.
As we continued the journey. As always, we appreciate you
giving us a few minutes of your time. We know
you have a lot of options in this audio landscape
and giving Ian Dan and myself a few minutes of
your time. Maybe a fist pump, maybe a shaking your
(44:11):
fist because you disagreed with something, or maybe I gave
you some advice that steered you wrong. Either way, blame me.
I got wide shoulders. I can handle it until the
next time. I'm like Garman. Thanks for listening. Guy, watch
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