November 7, 2024 • 40 mins
Trae Young smack talks Knicks fans after dropping 23 and 10 on New York. Longtime NBA Insider Ric Bucher drops in for all things Lakers, Warriors, Knicks and Joel Embiid. Plus, Jason and Mike debate if Joe Burrow’s good enough to carry the Bengals to a win against the Ravens.
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in a couple of seconds. What Yeah, First, I want
to say this, you're ready to feel old. There's very
few moments in sports that make me feel old like
we We continually deal with stuff that happened and anniversaries,
and the anniversaries are easy swallow. Thirtieth anniversary of this
or whatever it is. Okay, Okay, very few moments make
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me feel old, maybe maybe because I still think of
this person as really young. But football news today, Matt
Liner's son has committed to SMU to go play quarterback there. Yeah,
he's quarterbacking where my daughters go to school at Redowdo Union.
Matt running kid is going to be in college next year.
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And I remember, yeah, he did have have having very young,
right A brit can remember a volleyball player yep, with USC,
and but he was like, oh yeah, it's called go Yeah,
he's got a kid young, NFL great now, I mean
how long? I mean I remember starting my radio career
and it was the heyday of the USC dynasty and
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it was hey, man, USC, look how good they are
coming nowhere? And yeah, you know what they lose you know,
five games and four years whatever it was, and Lioner
wins the Heisman and Bush wins the Hids and and
we just talked about that being twenty years ago. The
other night, like we talked about Lincoln Riley changing quarterbacks
trying to save his job. It's like, dude, not far well.
The USC dynasty was forever ago. Man, it's not coming back.
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You know, they lose four games a year. They've done
that for twenty years. And then I wake up today
and I say, hey, Lionard's kid is going to good
for you call. It's funny because I actually brought that
up to Maddie at some point a few weeks ago.
How did you not get him on the show? You haven't?
We can do that?
Speaker 2 (02:37):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (02:37):
Well bad at the card shop. Everything tonight was the
night we could I understand, I understand we could have.
It could have happened tonight. Oh you had to do
his ask tonight. How do you say, hey, I could
get Cole Leonard. He's right here with me. I'm selling
him cards, and I'm selling him cards at a discount price. No, no, no, no, no, no,
he's I'm selling him his dad Rookie cards and I
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have some stuff the price on it. I should or
I should just get Matt to sign a bunch of them,
and then, you know, authentic, gain him and jack him
up from there. But yeah, six ' four a big arm.
You look at the highlight. Righty gets after it. He's
a righty. I mean, how about that, he's a righty.
Didn't dick after dear old Dad? Oh Dad was an
outlier no, maybe dad said, don't be a lefty because
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you know, you go to go to the league. And
I mean he was, and he was a highly sought
after kid. He could have gone to Colorado, Arizona, Utah,
he had all favorites. But I'm like, wow, Matt Lioner's
kid is going college, going up fifteen program. Now I
still think of Matt Liners being thirty years old. No,
but that's the l that's the problem is that I
do this so as soon as I knew where you
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were going with this, before you even said it, It's like,
all right, which kid, thinking it probably Liners. But there
were a couple others like, wait, that guy's got a
kid that's you know, a junior in college or like
with college basketball revving backups, Like really, yeah, really, I'm
that old. It's like you're telling me, Hey, Frankie Munis
has a kid who's going to college, Like right, Malcolm
in the mid coup on Man, he's in the racing series.
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I know, yeah, a full time. But I think he's
telling me new hair. When I saw when I saw
that night, when I saw that story today, I just said,
oh my god, Leonard's kid is going to college and
we're we talking about Lionard's kid, a guy who I again,
I still envisioned him as thirty and just out of
the league for you know, a year or two. This
is where you just have to tell yourself he had
the kid really young. He did. He did so psychologically
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it helped you, you know, bridge that gap a little longer,
because get the guess what, you're going to have a
college kid pretty soon. I already have one.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
Yeah, no, no, no, so I get you know.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
Good old sands in the hour glass. They're catching up
to us. So uh so, yeah, there you have it.
Cole Lionard headed to congratulations number thirteen in the first
playoff poll. No, okay, all right, but you got money
on these games, you know? Oh okay, all right? High
school playoffs? Maybe Rodondo Union you were no I fan
they're playing this week. Yeah, I don't know what the
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line is yet. But then great softball team to Redonda Union.
Is that's a loaded that school is loaded for sports?
Cool little field there the yeah, oh yeah, yeah, it's fun.
We want to swim. A venue is huge and yeah
we lost them in softball this year, Like Alredondio is
a while out of because I think like their entire
for softball, like their entire starting nine is going D
one scholarship. And it was like it was like, I go, man,
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if we lose fifteen to one, I'll feel happy we
lost fifteen one. That sounds like all right, I had.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
It right on.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
I was happy was fifteen Hold me you get a
bettet okay, coach. Meanwhile, this just out of the NBA.
The Knicks fall to the Hawks tonight and a game
in which the Knicks melted down in the final three
and a half minutes. It was embarrassing. I was. I
came into the studio, you were yelling, go New York, Go,
New York, going, and then I was like William H.
(05:45):
Macy and the cooler because that was the end of
anything positive for your squad. We'll get to them in
a minute, because now you know three and four they're
struggling to start. But Trey Young, who you know, always
thinks himself, I'm sure as a latter day Reggie Miller,
I hate me, just like, yeah, no, not quite. Oh,
you got to build your own brand, you know, you know,
find that motivation. The Trey Young when the Knicks finally
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made the playoffs three years ago when he goes in
and beats New York and he's doing the stuff with
the crowd and the shushing and all that crazy stuff. Yeah, no,
he thinks himself as a as a latter day Reggie Miller.
And you know, okay, I can see a little bit
of that. They do have something in common. What's that
they both own the Knicks. But after the comeback tonight
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in which they kind of look Reche has thirty three points,
he looks great in the final few minutes. Uh. Trey Young,
doing a postgame interview, had a message for all the
Knicks fans who had traveled to the game. Did he
go Joe Kelly nice?
Speaker 3 (06:43):
Nah?
Speaker 1 (06:43):
I don't know. He didn't quite do that. I didn't
say anybody was lazy. He didn't say we watched don't
know that.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
We watched more film madey.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
We saw the rotations on defense, the lazy, lazy defending.
He didn't say, Hey, if you were reseeding the NBA
Eastern Conference, the Knicks would be the agency. Celtics are
better than them, The Cavaliers are better than no, no, no.
Here is some things that Trey Young said that I
just might take personal. Oh boy, here we go oh,
did New York fans find their way to the exit?
Speaker 3 (07:10):
Real?
Speaker 1 (07:10):
Real quick? Take our asshole? Well, you know me? Gee,
he's fun. No, Trey Young is fun. Well, let's see
what happens when you're losing, right, you only sing when
you're winning. Yeah, take your aushome. Okay, I'll see you guys,
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see you guys tomorrow. I'm going I'll be welcoming Rick
Buker on Trey Young and the Hawks who can't do
anything in his entire career there in Atlanta suddenly, Oh yeah,
New York. Well the game was tonight. I mean you
got to celebrate it. He's a guy as much fun
as he is right, as much fun he likes. Me
antagonistic towards the Knicks. If there was just one report
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on Twitter, one my sources tell me one I'm hearing
with people familiar with the team's thinking, which is always
my favorite source. Someone familiar with the team's thinking, which
could be me, uh someone feelings. If there was just
one tiny report Nicks interested in Trey Young, he would
show up at Madison Square Garden and Dolan's office in
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his own pre bought Knicks jersey numbers, saying I'm ready
to go. I'm ready to go. I'll play tonight. He
would be he would be a Nick that little backpack shoes, Yeah,
tucked in there, Yeah, right, backpack. As much as he
wants to be the Knicks antagonistic guy. If the Knicks
we're gonna trade.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
For oh yeah, I'll be there.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
You can love to be in a second, in a second.
Why do you think he did this? Because it's all
about he knows he's got the stage right, because it's
a national event. The Knicks draws so many eyeballs, you know,
all of those things. So when you have the opportunity
to go and do a bit of flexen, you know
you're getting a bunch of run tonight if you do that. Yeah,
when the next time the Hawks are gonna get any time?
And maybe shot seven of twenty one. So they won
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in spite of his h chucker kind of effort. There,
I'm trying to look at the schedule. What's the next
time they might actually be relevant here, Let's see Detroit Chicago. No,
they played Boston next Friday. Yeah, but even then even
that's not gonna happen. That's at Boston, New York. They win.
If you's in a minute at off air that you
rather have Trey Young than your guy Bronson. I've never said.
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Don't say things that I've never said. I thought he
said that to Tysher. I didn't know you heard that too. Yes,
because Alex Tyser and I have many conversations about Nicks basketball, Tyson,
he's a deep thing for you, like talking oly like
three hours the other night after the show talking about
Knicks basketball. Is that what it was? I think, Yeah,
that's pretty much his answer right there. That's what it was. Yeah. Now, look,
the Knicks lose tonight and they melt down in the
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final three and a half minutes. It's not a great start.
But I'll tell you right now, like Aaron Rodgers likes
to say, really, would you rather be the Warriors right now? Though?
As everything is, No, I don't want to peek in
the first eight games of the season like the Warriors
are relaxed. Then what did I show? We were watching
the next game and I said, these type of defensive
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rotations aren't gonna happen once everybody gets on the same page.
The Knicks are closing with the same five guys, right,
They're five starters, and that's the one thing to say.
The Knicks are really gonna need to find some other
guys to come play outside of your five stars. I mean,
you got simteen from McBride off the bench. He was
five of nine. He's the only other guy that they
really come off and can count on it. For I
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had six and nine minutes and then Simms played ten minutes.
He was plus seven, but he didn't take a shot. Now,
everything else is the five starters, and it's it's it's
two new starters coming in that they're figuring out, and
you know, the defensive intensity the TIBs wants to have.
The Knicks are gonna need two things. They're gonna figure
out a little bit more of a bench, but mainly
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it's gonna be, hey, the starting five playing together. Because look,
they had a big rotation when the Knicks were up five, right,
And I showed you a big rotation miss that the
Knicks had where Ogiannunoby didn't get over to his guy
in time. Standing by was one of the best defensive
players in the game. How many times are you really
gonna see that where an Unobe is late to rotate
if he has to keep playing forty one games a
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night or forty one minutes tonight. I mean again, they
need to have more guys off the bet. To your point,
they're concerned earlier about the old legs of the awards. Again,
I worry about Tom Thibodeau. I've seen this. Yeah, okay,
I saw it with young legs. I saw him where
guys out, the Knicks are gonna get to a point
where they're five hundred and then another few games, it's
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gonna be they're gonna start winning two out of three,
then it's gonna be three out of four, they are
gonna win four out of five. They're they're absolutely fine.
The Knicks are too big to fail, they're too talented.
They're all gonna buy into Tibbs's system. And watching Jalen
Brunson on offense, it's a little bit different Jalen Brunson
because Brunson's not the guy he was last year. The
Knicks don't have their really defined roles yet. Where last year,
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even when they were shorthanded, you knew what it was
gonna be. Brunson was taking the lion's share of the shots.
He had the ball in his hand for twenty seconds
of the clock, whether it was getting back from a
pas for figuring something out. You could see he is
still trying to figure out where he can go with
the Basketball's where the guys are gonna be, what he
can do offensively, when he can set plays up. It's
just gonna take a little bit of time. I would
hope that they were able to jump right in, because
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when Anninobe came in last year, it was great. He
jumped right into a three and D guy and the
Knicks were great. But it's just gonna be a little
bit of time. I'm fine, the Knicks are fine. You
know how You're gonna expand that rotation. Relax, Boo booey
at some point, at some point, sign that two way deal.
You want to talk about promotion and excitation. Sure, I
(12:34):
had my boo booye game. Keen issues shorts on earlier today,
walking around getting a workout in with those Wildcats. Shorts on.
Let me tell you catch me out, exit out by
a fresca, exit swollen, dumb, Relax, The Knicks are fine,
too big to fail. Coming up next, Rick Buker stops
by all the latest news in the NBA. What's behind
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the Lakers struggles? Are the Warriors for real? What about
the Celtics loss tonight? Is Joel Embiid ever gonna play again?
All that and more coming up next Right here, Jason
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Speaker 3 (13:59):
I am good? I'm a slightly distracted. It's only because
I'm trying to keep an eye on this Nuggets. The
Thunder game, which appeared to be a thunder walkover for
a better part of the night, and the Denver Nuggets
have rallied and now up one twenty one point fifteen
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with doing straw there at the line. So showing a
little bit of aggumption here, Nikola Jokic playing with like
just four of the youngins and getting it done against Okay. See,
so I am ready, though, I am ready. I just
I'm going to have one eye on the radio and
one eye on this game.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
Well, you could keep both eyes on the game. Since
radio is theater of the mind. You can put both
eyes on the game and your brain with us. I
think that how about that.
Speaker 3 (14:51):
Well we could do that, But I like.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
The idea that you were staring down the radio with
a ster eye. Look at Jason because that strategy tonight
Rick with the Knicks where they had one eye on
Trey Young and no eyes on Research and he scores
thirty points and no turnovers to the Knicks loose to
the Hawks. I saw that strategy. It doesn't work.
Speaker 3 (15:11):
Yeah, that was a strange I mean, the Knicks lost
this one in an in an unusual way because they're
generally they're generally pretty good rebounding wise, and they gave
up sixteen offensive boards.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
I mean it just.
Speaker 3 (15:27):
Hawks have one of the fastest paces and the Knicks,
once again this year, are dead last in pace, and
so it you know, styles make fights, and and then
you know Tipps is doing his usual thing where the
only playing you played we played eight guys but essentially
sick man.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
Yes, already, Yeah, it's great. It's like the State tournament. Yeah,
we're playing our five starters and the one sixth man
who comes off the bencher just a little bit exactly.
Speaker 3 (15:53):
And so then now you're playing against a team that
played fast and they and they played a deep, deep
rotation and they just they just kind of outwork the Knicks,
which is really really kind of unusual. But having said that,
I'm really curious about where the chemistry is with this
team because we made such a big deal about the
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whole Villanova thing last year, right, and now it's it's Villanova,
uh you know, east in in in spades, and and
I just started thinking about, like, okay, so how does
Carl Anthony Towns feel about that whole Villanova vibe? And
and og Ananoby and and Miles of Bride and the
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guys that are are also important to this team but
are not considered in that circle. And and and when
we talk about teams that are playing for championships, you
generally can't have clicks. You can't have like, you know, groups,
subsets within with within the team. And not to say
that it's it's it's not necessarily a negative. It's just
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it's like, oh, those are those guys and we're here.
And sometimes that can just unintentionally kind of tear at
the chemistry and cohesiveness of your team. And not to
make too much of this, because there's you know, you
did me once in a while, you just drop one
in unlikely fashion, and I think the Hawks loss fits
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in that category. But you know, by and Lards, the
Knicks have just sort of been ineffectual this season so far,
and that's not something that we normally associate or have
associated with them over the last couple of years, or
with Tom Thibodeaux team. So I think that the whole
chemistry element with this team, which is something that we
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just raved about last year, is something to keep an
eye on this year.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
There you go tweet that out smith Rick Buker foreshadows
the downlall of the Knicks show. How about the Warriors
one eighteen one twelve final over the Celtics. No Jalen
Brown in this one, but a big win on the road.
They're now five and oh away from home and getting
good rotational ball. I mean, Jason brought up the point earlier,
and I think it's apt to talking about heavy minutes
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for your leaders. But right now playing some really good basketball.
Speaker 3 (18:11):
Right, no doubt about it. And look, there are a
difficult team to prepare for right now because they're playing
in such an unorthodox fashion. And if you look at
just their starting lineup, you know, the Boston Celtics obviously,
you know, you guys know each other really well, but
the Boston Celtics don't really know this team. We've got
Tray Jackson Davis starting, you got Moses Moody, you got
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all sorts of new pieces in there, Buddy Healed coming
off the bench, playing like ten, eleven, twelve deep. It
really changes kind of the look of them. And I
think it's difficult at times when you run into a
team like that. It is also just motivated to like
to prove something that it can create problems because this
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wasn't one of those you know, I was first Jason
Tatum started a little swow and I thought, oh my god,
here we go again, Like what is it about these
freaking Warriors? The Jason Tatum just just se sees ghosts,
but he actually he came around and he played well.
And I thought the Boston Celtics by and large played well.
I think the big difference, I think the thing for
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the Warriors, like I don't know whether this translates the postseason,
but as of right now, the biggest thing for me,
I will say is I'm laughing at all those people
who have wanted to fire Steve Kerr, like whether or
they were just they were just they didn't And there
were Warriors fans they're like, what's he doing? Like he's
he's not using kaminga right, he's not playing Moses Moody,
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He's not like all these things. And I'm like, you guys,
realize what Steve Kerr has done and how he's trying
to transform this team on the fly into one that's
still competitive. And Mike Dunley Junior has just handed him
like a bag, like a whole bag and new pace.
Build something out of this, right.
Speaker 4 (20:05):
Build something.
Speaker 3 (20:05):
You know, Look, we had those championships. Can you take
this bag of stuff? And can you build another one
of those, like that's what he's being asked to do
and and and he's and he's doing it, and he's
doing it in a in a completely different way for
the most part than the way they've played in the past,
and so I just, uh, you know, this is this
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is uh, this is just a tremendous job. It's a
tremendous job won by Steve Kerr. And once again it's
a reflection of uh what Steph the culture and the
inclusivity that Steph Curry creates. And we saw it when
he stepped to the side or made room for Kevin
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Durant and and you know, look, you're a league MVP,
and and uh, some guys would struggle like trying to
find room for someone who takes up as much oxygen
and shots in space as Kevin Durant and Steph Curry
didn't have. He didn't hesitate for a moment. And I
think the most striking thing. And I don't know if
I shared this with you guys, but in the in
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before the season started, I asked Steph and Steve Kerr
about how they had struggled last year with playing sort
of the system that the veterans are comfortable in and
that they've had a tremendous amount of success with. But
guys like Jonathan Kaminga and Moses Moody just don't operate
as well in it. And so I was like, what
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are you guys going to do this year? Like are
you going to And they said, we're going to try
to accommodate the young guys, like we're going to try
to accommodate the new pieces. And that's what they've done.
And that sounds all well and good, but man, you
got you got a coach, and you got a veterans
who have won championships with a particular system, and they
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are humble enough, self effacing enough and focused simply on
what do we have to do that gives us the
best chance to win enough that they're willing to, like
accommodate guys that haven't won anything, just because they see
that as what's best for the team. And so that's
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why the Warriors are doing what they're doing. I don't
know if it translates, you know, when you get down
to the nitty gritty and you get the best of
the best at the end of the year. I don't
know if any of that. I don't know if they're
just the talent. Wise, they're good enough when it gets
to that. But once again, you know the magic of
Steve Kerr and Steph Curry is creating something greater than
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the sum of its parts. And it's been really kind
of fun to watch.
Speaker 1 (22:46):
Rick Buker our guest to Jason Smiths or with Mike
Carmen live from the tirec dot com studios. All right,
Rick to the big Joel Embiide soap opera. Does he
ever play in the NBA? Again, I don't know. Is
he ever going to play? I don't think he is.
To get suspended for three games when you're not playing,
it's a difficult thing to do, and yet he found
a way to do that.
Speaker 3 (23:06):
Yeah, it is. It is. And I will say, you know,
my hat is off to Joe Dumars in the standing
up for the media. It wasn't it wasn't a punch,
it was a shoves. But the relationship between the media
and the players is is probably at an all time
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low at a time when the media could not be softer.
I mean, for someone who started doing this twenty twenty
five years ago. The softball questions are the questions where
people get their backs up, Like I'm like, are you
kidding me? Like you I don't know if you guys
remember TJ. Simer's but there or Jay Marriotti, Oh sure, yeah,
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they're you know, Peter Vessi even like guys who they
cut and dry. They were asking direct what's up with this? Questions?
And you know you today's questions don't compare, and so
Joelle reacting the way that he did was completely completely
(24:11):
out of line. And yet I hear fans too, they're like, well,
you know, how dare the NBA Joelle is just getting
back at a at a columnist who got personal or whatever.
It's like, our whole world is skewed when it's when
it's come to that. But all that said, no, Joelle
will eventually play Okay, yeah, but but like you know,
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I think that we all looking at Paul George coming
on board and Tyree Smaxi in the way that he
had evolved, and Joelle playing the way he did with
Team USA and feeling like, okay, you know what, maybe
they got a shot. If they have ever had a shot,
this is their shot. And then you've got just one
(24:57):
distraction after.
Speaker 4 (25:00):
Other some of them, most of them self inflicted, whether
it's the confusion from the front office and the head
coach about Joelmb's availability, or Joel saying, you know, I'm
never going to play back the Backs again, like just
ruling that.
Speaker 3 (25:18):
Out for the rest of his career, and the firestorm
that that created, and then you know, pushing a columnist,
and then Paul George fifteen seasons, fifteenth season, He's played
almost thirty thousand minutes and he doesn't know what the
score is and has twenty four seconds and doesn't have
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time to look up to see what the score is
to know what kind of shot he should take with
the game on the line, and then ends up taking
the longest, low percentage two point shot when they need
three to win that you could possibly take, Like they
ain't a whole lot there for me, Billy, this is
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Philly's year. It might be Philly's year, but not in
any way the way they're not thought it was there.
Speaker 1 (26:09):
There are I never again list Rick a team I
will never pick to do anything because I've been burned
by them so many times in the past, Like the
Sixers are completely on my never again list, and.
Speaker 3 (26:19):
I'm that way with Paul George, Like I kept thinking,
he's so talented, like he's he's not a bad guy,
he's not a selfish guy. Like the light's gonna come
on eventually, like it has to write he's just too
talented and come on, And now I'm like, nah, he
is who he is, Like this this is one more time,
(26:39):
you know, and it's kind of fitting, Like at what point,
at what point do we look at Daryl Morey and go, dude,
like you gather a lot of talent, but it never
fits and it always underperforms, Like at some it's been
a kind of remarkable how he's dodged gods the bullets
(27:01):
the way that he has because you look at all
of the pieces that he's acquired, and you look at
all the hooplaw around those pieces, and it's second rounded out,
second rounded out, second rounded out. Like man, I mean
maybe maybe now is that is that time we'll see?
Speaker 1 (27:23):
Yeah, he had a good run. Let me ask you
this very succinctly, Rick, real quick to wrap things up.
What exactly are the Lakers right now? Oh? I think
Lebron's hacked your phone, Rick, So you got that Lakers
question out all of a sud his voice had to
(27:45):
be disguised. He went robotic quick Buchers on Fox Sports Radio.
Jam that phone up, jam mkom leg centered switch okay man,
that was Morgan Freeman with that giant grid in front
of him and yeah and the Batman with uh so
we'll see if we get Rick Buker back there. Lebron,
Lebron just got his phone like right away. Man, that's
(28:06):
that's impressive. Like as soon as you said Lakers, it's
like there was some sort of like when when people
can google them and pop up, when when someone mentions
them on social media or something like all of a sudden, lak,
my ears are burning Buker's phone, jammt jam Attway.
Speaker 2 (28:21):
We're a big deal.
Speaker 1 (28:22):
We're listened to, and folks like to take what we
have and carry it forward. So yeah, Rick, as you
were beginning.
Speaker 3 (28:29):
To say, yeah, Kitty Buss and JJ were like him.
Speaker 1 (28:39):
He knows too much. So we heard you say right now,
they're a five hundred team, and that's when Lebron got
to your phone.
Speaker 3 (28:44):
That's exactly right.
Speaker 1 (28:45):
Yeah, And and.
Speaker 3 (28:50):
I mean, look, they didn't have Anthony Davis tonight, so
they have no shot of winning without Anthony Davis, and
their second best player is uh is almost forty year
old Lebron James, who is can still get numbers, can
still get his numbers, but he's getting them in a
(29:11):
way that doesn't get anybody else numbers six six, and
he's and this is what I love about about Lebron
is Lebron is just he's so smart in terms of
like he knows that he has a good looking box score,
he's gonna he's gonna escape the blame. And and so
(29:31):
if you look, I was just curious. I was because
because what I've noticed is, man, he's still in a
lot of lobs to Anthony Davis. And that's I mean,
Anthony Davis might be one of the best ali oop
finishers options that you can have, particularly in this small
ball game, right and uh. And so I looked at that,
(29:54):
just randomly two double digit assist games, that that that
Lebron had half a his assists in booth games like
Anthony Davis.
Speaker 2 (30:03):
I can't fault's a good strategy.
Speaker 3 (30:07):
I'm just like, you know what he knows like when
it's when it's not there. And conversely, like tonight he
was working with Jackson Hayes and he was able to
get one off of Jackson, but that was about it
because Jackson's not He's just not the same as as
a d and he was and he winds up with
six assists and five turnovers. So it really is it's
(30:27):
an Anthony Davis driven team. And it's all well and
good to say we're going to empower him and we're
going to try to make him an m v P.
You're not gonna make him an MVP of your five
hundred record tee. That's just reality. First team All NBA.
You can probably get him there, but uh, there's just
not there's not enough there. And if you look at
this team, they're just they're not They're not very athletic,
(30:51):
and that's what you saw against the Grizzlies. I mean,
they're they're they're getting killed inters transition. I think Lebron
had when he had thirty four points and he was
a whatever, he was a minus. It was the worst
than the team minus twenty one. Maybe it was a
big name minus minus bus minus twenty one. So he scored,
(31:13):
he scored thirty nine points and yet the Lakers were
outscored by twenty one when he was on the floor,
And what teams have realized, is we didn't need to
get up and down. Austin Reeves doesn't want to, Like,
he doesn't want to bust it up and down because
he's not built for that. Lebron certainly isn't built for that.
(31:33):
Anthony Davis can do it as a big, but he
doesn't want to consistently do that. D'andelo Russell like half court,
full court, doesn't matter. He's not staying in front of anybody.
So like, if you just play up tempo against them,
I there's there's really no answer for that, and then
you just have the whole I mean that not that
(31:55):
you asked, but I just as I'm sitting here and
I'm looking and I'm seeing Annie James play get in
a you know, a blowout and he played five minutes,
I'm like, why is he not in the G League
getting playing time? Like if you're developing him, if this
isn't just Bron gets to tour with his son, Like
(32:20):
why is because he didn't play that much at USC
and then he had the heart you know, he had
the heart issue and he wasn't really playing that much
in high school, I mean or playing a big role.
So if if you drafted him truly because you believe
that he can be an NBA player, needs to be
playing as much as possible, and then that's not going
to happen with the big team. So and you can't
(32:43):
tell me that Jalens with Chaffino and some of the
other young guys on this team aren't looking at that
going You know, the guys that are on two ways
or are getting sent down to the South Bay, they're like,
what's what's going on here? And look, everyone on the
team is going to look at it and go, what's
going on here? And when you're a team that's as
(33:05):
marginally talented as the Lakers, you can't have guys questioning
like are we all in to trying to win every
possible game? And yet there's a lot of things going on.
You just I just look at and I go, are
you really are you guys really looking to win every
(33:25):
game possible? Or is this a matter of we're just
trying to be sort of entertaining and be a draw
And the bron brawny thing is still going to.
Speaker 1 (33:36):
Make us that.
Speaker 3 (33:38):
So we're gonna we're gonna roll with that. It just
it doesn't it doesn't sit It doesn't sit well with me.
For for the other guys on that team. You know,
there's guys trying to make a career here and and
uh and do care about winning, and I just there's
I got some questions is whether everybody with that Lakers
organization right now is thinking the same way.
Speaker 1 (34:00):
He's on Twitter at Rick Buker. Rick is always buddy, Appreciate.
Speaker 3 (34:03):
It, my man.
Speaker 1 (34:03):
We'll taught to you next week.
Speaker 3 (34:04):
No pleasure, guys, Thanks Rick anes you.
Speaker 1 (34:07):
Let's find out what's trending in the wide world of
sports from Monzi Blangyo's manse. What do you got for us?
Speaker 5 (34:11):
Well, the Clippers are up, guys, they're up. They were
tied at halftime with the seventy six ers and they're
outscoring them in the third quarter. So they're up sixty
four to fifty nine halfway through the third, Norman Powell
leading the way with eighteen points. The Raptors are up
on the King seventy nine to seventy seven. Four minutes
left in the third. The Nuggets handed Okay See their
first loss of the season, coming out on top when
(34:33):
twenty four to one to twenty two. Denver was down
by sixteen at one point. All starters ended in double digits,
and of course, Nicola Jokic ended with a ridiculous triple
double twenty three points, twenty rebounds, sixteen assists. The Calves
are still undefeated, though they beat the Pelicans one thirty
one to one twenty two. This is the first time
in franchise history that the Calves have started nine no
o and the Lakers shorthanded. They lost today to the
(34:56):
Grizzlies one thirty one to one fourteen. A little fell
for you guys. Buccaneers quarterback Baker Mayfield didn't practice today
because of a tow issue. Chiefs quarterback Patrick Mahomes says
his injured ankle was a little sore, but he wasn't
limited at practice, and then the Panthers announced that Bryce
Young is going to be their starting quarterback this weekend
against the Giants they play in Germany.
Speaker 1 (35:15):
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Smith Show with Mike Carmon live from the Tirack dot
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Week ten in the NFL with a big upset? That's
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We've got something baseball stuff coming up in about ten
minutes involving everybody's favorite free agent. We're gonna talk about
him every day apparently till he signs. You're just trying
to speak it into existence, not speaking anything into existence
with Jan Soto and the met Snow. But tomorrow night,
(35:58):
Thursday Night Football, we got a really good one. We
have Cincinnati and Baltimore. And I know it's a short
week and it's one of those weeks where you're say,
on Thursday, i'd football. I like a lot of points
in this game, yep, and I'm gonna go with the upset.
I'm gonna take the Bengals getting six and a half.
Look at you, because these games. Look, the Bengals play
(36:22):
the Bengals, and the Ravens and the Steelers all play
each other really well. Right This game went to overtime
a few weeks ago, and if it's possible, the raven
secondary is worse than it was when they met a
few weeks ago. That's a fine question. I mean, I
know that offense down. T Higgins isn't showing up again. No,
(36:43):
but it doesn't matter. Kind of a good thing. They
didn't give him a giant, giant check with a big
signing modus.
Speaker 3 (36:49):
Huh.
Speaker 1 (36:49):
But look they are finding they're big three now with
Burrow and Jamar, Chase and Chase Brown. If your name
is Chase, you're doing pretty well.
Speaker 4 (36:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (36:58):
And they went and picked up Herbert. Vinnie che is
doing well too. What does he does? He know everything
you need to I'll tell him what to do. This
is Chase Brown's offense when it comes to the backfield,
and he is terrific. And you can see why he
is now getting elevated. They make the move. Herbert is
going to be his backup. Yeah, and Moss is probably
done for the year. The Bengals are gonna put up
a lot of points in this game, and this is
(37:19):
going to be a track meet and it's gonna be
And look, Deontay Johnson, you think is going to be
more involved this week? He only had a handful of
snaps last week and that was by design. They want
him to come in as the number three receiver, so
it's gonna be a little bit more of a of
a of a slower build up for him. But I
don't see the Bengals slowing the Ravens down. Six and
a half points is a lot, But I'll take Joe
Burrow and the Bengals in a shootout. Remember his game face.
(37:41):
Now you're talking about that. I got to scowl on
the sidelines, my game face. They're gonna put up a
lot of points. Give me the Bengals getting six and
a half. Yeah, it's no longer a week one or two,
which means they'll play better football. You forgot one big
important thing about the Bengals defense to date. What did
I forget? They stink to They're supposed to say, that's
a one thing wrong with the just I'm trying to
(38:03):
mind the mind the time. There's only one thing wrong
with you on a room, just one thing, one thing,
only one thing thing everything else. Yeah, Frostburg, what's not smell?
I don't know what's wrong, Mike. They stay, you go
see don't there we go? No, No, we got it.
Like I was just trying to make the long expository note.
(38:24):
But no, I mean the long one expository. Okay, okay,
you think I said suppository. Yeah so I thought you
said for a second, but no, no, you're not. Okay,
all right, actually done, he was ready, he was ready.
I heard suppository. So I'm playing that button right there.
But it says suppository on it. No, it's gonna be
a good battle. It I think it flies past the
(38:46):
over which is at fifty three or fifty eight three points.
Whether you're shot, it's telling you take the under I did.
It's telling you a terrible even bringing in White, he's
not one hundred percent. I'm not sure that he even
sees the field here in the short week. The trade
they made with the Rams guy once upon a time
was a great corner and shut down operator. Uh, it's
(39:09):
not that right now. But can't get any worse in
that secondary. No, no, no, no, I guess we when
you hit rock bottom, you understand that this may be
when the Beatles were singing, it's getting better all the time.
And in the background, good good bruch where uh but
the offense Lamar Jackson, Derreck, Henry Mark Andrews and the like.
Deontay Johnson makes his presence felt I'll take the Ravens
(39:31):
minus six and a half. Yeah, this this has like
thirty four to thirty one. Yeah, it'd be a fun
over it. You know, one of those few divisional games
we get excited about. Yeah, one of those games we're
on Thursday night. It's like, whoa, we get a lot
of points. You're like, hey, this is gonna be exciting. No,
that's really the best you're gonna get for a long time. Dude.
We're gonna have to have an extra camera on al
Michaels because he's gonna be very animated. Well, he's got
(39:52):
to be able to stay up and call all these
touchdowns that are gonna happen. We'll see how creative he gets. Yeah,
coffee more, who's made? Well, I'll tell you the do
the math. How close are we to fifty three? It's
eleven o'clock at night, the team's scoring touchdowns. I gotta
go to burn up all those prop bets behind me.
Late exit out BTA Fresca exit swolling down. The Jason
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in a couple of seconds. What Yeah, First, I want
to say this, you're ready to feel old. There's very
few moments in sports that make me feel old like
we We continually deal with stuff that happened and anniversaries,
and the anniversaries are easy swallow. Thirtieth anniversary of this
or whatever it is. Okay, Okay, very few moments make
(01:12):
me feel old, maybe maybe because I still think of
this person as really young. But football news today, Matt
Liner's son has committed to SMU to go play quarterback there. Yeah,
he's quarterbacking where my daughters go to school at Redowdo Union.
Matt running kid is going to be in college next year.
(01:37):
And I remember, yeah, he did have have having very young,
right A brit can remember a volleyball player yep, with USC,
and but he was like, oh yeah, it's called go Yeah,
he's got a kid young, NFL great now, I mean
how long? I mean I remember starting my radio career
and it was the heyday of the USC dynasty and
(01:58):
it was hey, man, USC, look how good they are
coming nowhere? And yeah, you know what they lose you know,
five games and four years whatever it was, and Lioner
wins the Heisman and Bush wins the Hids and and
we just talked about that being twenty years ago. The
other night, like we talked about Lincoln Riley changing quarterbacks
trying to save his job. It's like, dude, not far well.
The USC dynasty was forever ago. Man, it's not coming back.
(02:21):
You know, they lose four games a year. They've done
that for twenty years. And then I wake up today
and I say, hey, Lionard's kid is going to good
for you call. It's funny because I actually brought that
up to Maddie at some point a few weeks ago.
How did you not get him on the show? You haven't?
We can do that?
Speaker 2 (02:37):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (02:37):
Well bad at the card shop. Everything tonight was the
night we could I understand, I understand we could have.
It could have happened tonight. Oh you had to do
his ask tonight. How do you say, hey, I could
get Cole Leonard. He's right here with me. I'm selling
him cards, and I'm selling him cards at a discount price. No, no, no, no, no, no,
he's I'm selling him his dad Rookie cards and I
(02:57):
have some stuff the price on it. I should or
I should just get Matt to sign a bunch of them,
and then, you know, authentic, gain him and jack him
up from there. But yeah, six ' four a big arm.
You look at the highlight. Righty gets after it. He's
a righty. I mean, how about that, he's a righty.
Didn't dick after dear old Dad? Oh Dad was an
outlier no, maybe dad said, don't be a lefty because
(03:20):
you know, you go to go to the league. And
I mean he was, and he was a highly sought
after kid. He could have gone to Colorado, Arizona, Utah,
he had all favorites. But I'm like, wow, Matt Lioner's
kid is going college, going up fifteen program. Now I
still think of Matt Liners being thirty years old. No,
but that's the l that's the problem is that I
do this so as soon as I knew where you
(03:41):
were going with this, before you even said it, It's like,
all right, which kid, thinking it probably Liners. But there
were a couple others like, wait, that guy's got a
kid that's you know, a junior in college or like
with college basketball revving backups, Like really, yeah, really, I'm
that old. It's like you're telling me, Hey, Frankie Munis
has a kid who's going to college, Like right, Malcolm
in the mid coup on Man, he's in the racing series.
(04:04):
I know, yeah, a full time. But I think he's
telling me new hair. When I saw when I saw
that night, when I saw that story today, I just said,
oh my god, Leonard's kid is going to college and
we're we talking about Lionard's kid, a guy who I again,
I still envisioned him as thirty and just out of
the league for you know, a year or two. This
is where you just have to tell yourself he had
the kid really young. He did. He did so psychologically
(04:25):
it helped you, you know, bridge that gap a little longer,
because get the guess what, you're going to have a
college kid pretty soon. I already have one.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
Yeah, no, no, no, so I get you know.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
Good old sands in the hour glass. They're catching up
to us. So uh so, yeah, there you have it.
Cole Lionard headed to congratulations number thirteen in the first
playoff poll. No, okay, all right, but you got money
on these games, you know? Oh okay, all right? High
school playoffs? Maybe Rodondo Union you were no I fan
they're playing this week. Yeah, I don't know what the
(04:56):
line is yet. But then great softball team to Redonda Union.
Is that's a loaded that school is loaded for sports?
Cool little field there the yeah, oh yeah, yeah, it's fun.
We want to swim. A venue is huge and yeah
we lost them in softball this year, Like Alredondio is
a while out of because I think like their entire
for softball, like their entire starting nine is going D
one scholarship. And it was like it was like, I go, man,
(05:20):
if we lose fifteen to one, I'll feel happy we
lost fifteen one. That sounds like all right, I had.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
It right on.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
I was happy was fifteen Hold me you get a
bettet okay, coach. Meanwhile, this just out of the NBA.
The Knicks fall to the Hawks tonight and a game
in which the Knicks melted down in the final three
and a half minutes. It was embarrassing. I was. I
came into the studio, you were yelling, go New York, Go,
New York, going, and then I was like William H.
(05:45):
Macy and the cooler because that was the end of
anything positive for your squad. We'll get to them in
a minute, because now you know three and four they're
struggling to start. But Trey Young, who you know, always
thinks himself, I'm sure as a latter day Reggie Miller,
I hate me, just like, yeah, no, not quite. Oh,
you got to build your own brand, you know, you know,
find that motivation. The Trey Young when the Knicks finally
(06:06):
made the playoffs three years ago when he goes in
and beats New York and he's doing the stuff with
the crowd and the shushing and all that crazy stuff. Yeah, no,
he thinks himself as a as a latter day Reggie Miller.
And you know, okay, I can see a little bit
of that. They do have something in common. What's that
they both own the Knicks. But after the comeback tonight
(06:28):
in which they kind of look Reche has thirty three points,
he looks great in the final few minutes. Uh. Trey Young,
doing a postgame interview, had a message for all the
Knicks fans who had traveled to the game. Did he
go Joe Kelly nice?
Speaker 3 (06:43):
Nah?
Speaker 1 (06:43):
I don't know. He didn't quite do that. I didn't
say anybody was lazy. He didn't say we watched don't
know that.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
We watched more film madey.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
We saw the rotations on defense, the lazy, lazy defending.
He didn't say, Hey, if you were reseeding the NBA
Eastern Conference, the Knicks would be the agency. Celtics are
better than them, The Cavaliers are better than no, no, no.
Here is some things that Trey Young said that I
just might take personal. Oh boy, here we go oh,
did New York fans find their way to the exit?
Speaker 3 (07:10):
Real?
Speaker 1 (07:10):
Real quick? Take our asshole? Well, you know me? Gee,
he's fun. No, Trey Young is fun. Well, let's see
what happens when you're losing, right, you only sing when
you're winning. Yeah, take your aushome. Okay, I'll see you guys,
(07:32):
see you guys tomorrow. I'm going I'll be welcoming Rick
Buker on Trey Young and the Hawks who can't do
anything in his entire career there in Atlanta suddenly, Oh yeah,
New York. Well the game was tonight. I mean you
got to celebrate it. He's a guy as much fun
as he is right, as much fun he likes. Me
antagonistic towards the Knicks. If there was just one report
(07:55):
on Twitter, one my sources tell me one I'm hearing
with people familiar with the team's thinking, which is always
my favorite source. Someone familiar with the team's thinking, which
could be me, uh someone feelings. If there was just
one tiny report Nicks interested in Trey Young, he would
show up at Madison Square Garden and Dolan's office in
(08:18):
his own pre bought Knicks jersey numbers, saying I'm ready
to go. I'm ready to go. I'll play tonight. He
would be he would be a Nick that little backpack shoes, Yeah,
tucked in there, Yeah, right, backpack. As much as he
wants to be the Knicks antagonistic guy. If the Knicks
we're gonna trade.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
For oh yeah, I'll be there.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
You can love to be in a second, in a second.
Why do you think he did this? Because it's all
about he knows he's got the stage right, because it's
a national event. The Knicks draws so many eyeballs, you know,
all of those things. So when you have the opportunity
to go and do a bit of flexen, you know
you're getting a bunch of run tonight if you do that. Yeah,
when the next time the Hawks are gonna get any time?
And maybe shot seven of twenty one. So they won
(08:59):
in spite of his h chucker kind of effort. There,
I'm trying to look at the schedule. What's the next
time they might actually be relevant here, Let's see Detroit Chicago. No,
they played Boston next Friday. Yeah, but even then even
that's not gonna happen. That's at Boston, New York. They win.
If you's in a minute at off air that you
rather have Trey Young than your guy Bronson. I've never said.
(09:21):
Don't say things that I've never said. I thought he
said that to Tysher. I didn't know you heard that too. Yes,
because Alex Tyser and I have many conversations about Nicks basketball, Tyson,
he's a deep thing for you, like talking oly like
three hours the other night after the show talking about
Knicks basketball. Is that what it was? I think, Yeah,
that's pretty much his answer right there. That's what it was. Yeah. Now, look,
the Knicks lose tonight and they melt down in the
(09:43):
final three and a half minutes. It's not a great start.
But I'll tell you right now, like Aaron Rodgers likes
to say, really, would you rather be the Warriors right now? Though?
As everything is, No, I don't want to peek in
the first eight games of the season like the Warriors
are relaxed. Then what did I show? We were watching
the next game and I said, these type of defensive
(10:05):
rotations aren't gonna happen once everybody gets on the same page.
The Knicks are closing with the same five guys, right,
They're five starters, and that's the one thing to say.
The Knicks are really gonna need to find some other
guys to come play outside of your five stars. I mean,
you got simteen from McBride off the bench. He was
five of nine. He's the only other guy that they
really come off and can count on it. For I
(10:26):
had six and nine minutes and then Simms played ten minutes.
He was plus seven, but he didn't take a shot. Now,
everything else is the five starters, and it's it's it's
two new starters coming in that they're figuring out, and
you know, the defensive intensity the TIBs wants to have.
The Knicks are gonna need two things. They're gonna figure
out a little bit more of a bench, but mainly
(10:47):
it's gonna be, hey, the starting five playing together. Because look,
they had a big rotation when the Knicks were up five, right,
And I showed you a big rotation miss that the
Knicks had where Ogiannunoby didn't get over to his guy
in time. Standing by was one of the best defensive
players in the game. How many times are you really
gonna see that where an Unobe is late to rotate
if he has to keep playing forty one games a
(11:08):
night or forty one minutes tonight. I mean again, they
need to have more guys off the bet. To your point,
they're concerned earlier about the old legs of the awards. Again,
I worry about Tom Thibodeau. I've seen this. Yeah, okay,
I saw it with young legs. I saw him where
guys out, the Knicks are gonna get to a point
where they're five hundred and then another few games, it's
(11:28):
gonna be they're gonna start winning two out of three,
then it's gonna be three out of four, they are
gonna win four out of five. They're they're absolutely fine.
The Knicks are too big to fail, they're too talented.
They're all gonna buy into Tibbs's system. And watching Jalen
Brunson on offense, it's a little bit different Jalen Brunson
because Brunson's not the guy he was last year. The
Knicks don't have their really defined roles yet. Where last year,
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even when they were shorthanded, you knew what it was
gonna be. Brunson was taking the lion's share of the shots.
He had the ball in his hand for twenty seconds
of the clock, whether it was getting back from a
pas for figuring something out. You could see he is
still trying to figure out where he can go with
the Basketball's where the guys are gonna be, what he
can do offensively, when he can set plays up. It's
just gonna take a little bit of time. I would
hope that they were able to jump right in, because
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when Anninobe came in last year, it was great. He
jumped right into a three and D guy and the
Knicks were great. But it's just gonna be a little
bit of time. I'm fine, the Knicks are fine. You
know how You're gonna expand that rotation. Relax, Boo booey
at some point, at some point, sign that two way deal.
You want to talk about promotion and excitation. Sure, I
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had my boo booye game. Keen issues shorts on earlier today,
walking around getting a workout in with those Wildcats. Shorts on.
Let me tell you catch me out, exit out by
a fresca, exit swollen, dumb, Relax, The Knicks are fine,
too big to fail. Coming up next, Rick Buker stops
by all the latest news in the NBA. What's behind
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the Lakers struggles? Are the Warriors for real? What about
the Celtics loss tonight? Is Joel Embiid ever gonna play again?
All that and more coming up next Right here, Jason
and Mike. You are listening to Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
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Big Night in the NBA. Trey Young beats the Knicks,
tells Knicks fans take their asses home, Warriors win a
big show down with the Celtics? Are they for real?
What about Joel Embiid? Is he ever going to play again?
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Speaker 2 (13:44):
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Speaker 1 (13:48):
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are you?
Speaker 3 (13:59):
I am good? I'm a slightly distracted. It's only because
I'm trying to keep an eye on this Nuggets. The
Thunder game, which appeared to be a thunder walkover for
a better part of the night, and the Denver Nuggets
have rallied and now up one twenty one point fifteen
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with doing straw there at the line. So showing a
little bit of aggumption here, Nikola Jokic playing with like
just four of the youngins and getting it done against Okay. See,
so I am ready, though, I am ready. I just
I'm going to have one eye on the radio and
one eye on this game.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
Well, you could keep both eyes on the game. Since
radio is theater of the mind. You can put both
eyes on the game and your brain with us. I
think that how about that.
Speaker 3 (14:51):
Well we could do that, But I like.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
The idea that you were staring down the radio with
a ster eye. Look at Jason because that strategy tonight
Rick with the Knicks where they had one eye on
Trey Young and no eyes on Research and he scores
thirty points and no turnovers to the Knicks loose to
the Hawks. I saw that strategy. It doesn't work.
Speaker 3 (15:11):
Yeah, that was a strange I mean, the Knicks lost
this one in an in an unusual way because they're
generally they're generally pretty good rebounding wise, and they gave
up sixteen offensive boards.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
I mean it just.
Speaker 3 (15:27):
Hawks have one of the fastest paces and the Knicks,
once again this year, are dead last in pace, and
so it you know, styles make fights, and and then
you know Tipps is doing his usual thing where the
only playing you played we played eight guys but essentially
sick man.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
Yes, already, Yeah, it's great. It's like the State tournament. Yeah,
we're playing our five starters and the one sixth man
who comes off the bencher just a little bit exactly.
Speaker 3 (15:53):
And so then now you're playing against a team that
played fast and they and they played a deep, deep
rotation and they just they just kind of outwork the Knicks,
which is really really kind of unusual. But having said that,
I'm really curious about where the chemistry is with this
team because we made such a big deal about the
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whole Villanova thing last year, right, and now it's it's Villanova,
uh you know, east in in in spades, and and
I just started thinking about, like, okay, so how does
Carl Anthony Towns feel about that whole Villanova vibe? And
and og Ananoby and and Miles of Bride and the
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guys that are are also important to this team but
are not considered in that circle. And and and when
we talk about teams that are playing for championships, you
generally can't have clicks. You can't have like, you know, groups,
subsets within with within the team. And not to say
that it's it's it's not necessarily a negative. It's just
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it's like, oh, those are those guys and we're here.
And sometimes that can just unintentionally kind of tear at
the chemistry and cohesiveness of your team. And not to
make too much of this, because there's you know, you
did me once in a while, you just drop one
in unlikely fashion, and I think the Hawks loss fits
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in that category. But you know, by and Lards, the
Knicks have just sort of been ineffectual this season so far,
and that's not something that we normally associate or have
associated with them over the last couple of years, or
with Tom Thibodeaux team. So I think that the whole
chemistry element with this team, which is something that we
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just raved about last year, is something to keep an
eye on this year.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
There you go tweet that out smith Rick Buker foreshadows
the downlall of the Knicks show. How about the Warriors
one eighteen one twelve final over the Celtics. No Jalen
Brown in this one, but a big win on the road.
They're now five and oh away from home and getting
good rotational ball. I mean, Jason brought up the point earlier,
and I think it's apt to talking about heavy minutes
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for your leaders. But right now playing some really good basketball.
Speaker 3 (18:11):
Right, no doubt about it. And look, there are a
difficult team to prepare for right now because they're playing
in such an unorthodox fashion. And if you look at
just their starting lineup, you know, the Boston Celtics obviously,
you know, you guys know each other really well, but
the Boston Celtics don't really know this team. We've got
Tray Jackson Davis starting, you got Moses Moody, you got
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all sorts of new pieces in there, Buddy Healed coming
off the bench, playing like ten, eleven, twelve deep. It
really changes kind of the look of them. And I
think it's difficult at times when you run into a
team like that. It is also just motivated to like
to prove something that it can create problems because this
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wasn't one of those you know, I was first Jason
Tatum started a little swow and I thought, oh my god,
here we go again, Like what is it about these
freaking Warriors? The Jason Tatum just just se sees ghosts,
but he actually he came around and he played well.
And I thought the Boston Celtics by and large played well.
I think the big difference, I think the thing for
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the Warriors, like I don't know whether this translates the postseason,
but as of right now, the biggest thing for me,
I will say is I'm laughing at all those people
who have wanted to fire Steve Kerr, like whether or
they were just they were just they didn't And there
were Warriors fans they're like, what's he doing? Like he's
he's not using kaminga right, he's not playing Moses Moody,
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He's not like all these things. And I'm like, you guys,
realize what Steve Kerr has done and how he's trying
to transform this team on the fly into one that's
still competitive. And Mike Dunley Junior has just handed him
like a bag, like a whole bag and new pace.
Build something out of this, right.
Speaker 4 (20:05):
Build something.
Speaker 3 (20:05):
You know, Look, we had those championships. Can you take
this bag of stuff? And can you build another one
of those, like that's what he's being asked to do
and and and he's and he's doing it, and he's
doing it in a in a completely different way for
the most part than the way they've played in the past,
and so I just, uh, you know, this is this
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is uh, this is just a tremendous job. It's a
tremendous job won by Steve Kerr. And once again it's
a reflection of uh what Steph the culture and the
inclusivity that Steph Curry creates. And we saw it when
he stepped to the side or made room for Kevin
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Durant and and you know, look, you're a league MVP,
and and uh, some guys would struggle like trying to
find room for someone who takes up as much oxygen
and shots in space as Kevin Durant and Steph Curry
didn't have. He didn't hesitate for a moment. And I
think the most striking thing. And I don't know if
I shared this with you guys, but in the in
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before the season started, I asked Steph and Steve Kerr
about how they had struggled last year with playing sort
of the system that the veterans are comfortable in and
that they've had a tremendous amount of success with. But
guys like Jonathan Kaminga and Moses Moody just don't operate
as well in it. And so I was like, what
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are you guys going to do this year? Like are
you going to And they said, we're going to try
to accommodate the young guys, like we're going to try
to accommodate the new pieces. And that's what they've done.
And that sounds all well and good, but man, you
got you got a coach, and you got a veterans
who have won championships with a particular system, and they
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are humble enough, self effacing enough and focused simply on
what do we have to do that gives us the
best chance to win enough that they're willing to, like
accommodate guys that haven't won anything, just because they see
that as what's best for the team. And so that's
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why the Warriors are doing what they're doing. I don't
know if it translates, you know, when you get down
to the nitty gritty and you get the best of
the best at the end of the year. I don't
know if any of that. I don't know if they're
just the talent. Wise, they're good enough when it gets
to that. But once again, you know the magic of
Steve Kerr and Steph Curry is creating something greater than
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the sum of its parts. And it's been really kind
of fun to watch.
Speaker 1 (22:46):
Rick Buker our guest to Jason Smiths or with Mike
Carmen live from the tirec dot com studios. All right,
Rick to the big Joel Embiide soap opera. Does he
ever play in the NBA? Again, I don't know. Is
he ever going to play? I don't think he is.
To get suspended for three games when you're not playing,
it's a difficult thing to do, and yet he found
a way to do that.
Speaker 3 (23:06):
Yeah, it is. It is. And I will say, you know,
my hat is off to Joe Dumars in the standing
up for the media. It wasn't it wasn't a punch,
it was a shoves. But the relationship between the media
and the players is is probably at an all time
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low at a time when the media could not be softer.
I mean, for someone who started doing this twenty twenty
five years ago. The softball questions are the questions where
people get their backs up, Like I'm like, are you
kidding me? Like you I don't know if you guys
remember TJ. Simer's but there or Jay Marriotti, Oh sure, yeah,
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they're you know, Peter Vessi even like guys who they
cut and dry. They were asking direct what's up with this? Questions?
And you know you today's questions don't compare, and so
Joelle reacting the way that he did was completely completely
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out of line. And yet I hear fans too, they're like, well,
you know, how dare the NBA Joelle is just getting
back at a at a columnist who got personal or whatever.
It's like, our whole world is skewed when it's when
it's come to that. But all that said, no, Joelle
will eventually play Okay, yeah, but but like you know,
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I think that we all looking at Paul George coming
on board and Tyree Smaxi in the way that he
had evolved, and Joelle playing the way he did with
Team USA and feeling like, okay, you know what, maybe
they got a shot. If they have ever had a shot,
this is their shot. And then you've got just one
(24:57):
distraction after.
Speaker 4 (25:00):
Other some of them, most of them self inflicted, whether
it's the confusion from the front office and the head
coach about Joelmb's availability, or Joel saying, you know, I'm
never going to play back the Backs again, like just
ruling that.
Speaker 3 (25:18):
Out for the rest of his career, and the firestorm
that that created, and then you know, pushing a columnist,
and then Paul George fifteen seasons, fifteenth season, He's played
almost thirty thousand minutes and he doesn't know what the
score is and has twenty four seconds and doesn't have
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time to look up to see what the score is
to know what kind of shot he should take with
the game on the line, and then ends up taking
the longest, low percentage two point shot when they need
three to win that you could possibly take, Like they
ain't a whole lot there for me, Billy, this is
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Philly's year. It might be Philly's year, but not in
any way the way they're not thought it was there.
Speaker 1 (26:09):
There are I never again list Rick a team I
will never pick to do anything because I've been burned
by them so many times in the past, Like the
Sixers are completely on my never again list, and.
Speaker 3 (26:19):
I'm that way with Paul George, Like I kept thinking,
he's so talented, like he's he's not a bad guy,
he's not a selfish guy. Like the light's gonna come
on eventually, like it has to write he's just too
talented and come on, And now I'm like, nah, he
is who he is, Like this this is one more time,
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you know, and it's kind of fitting, Like at what point,
at what point do we look at Daryl Morey and go, dude,
like you gather a lot of talent, but it never
fits and it always underperforms, Like at some it's been
a kind of remarkable how he's dodged gods the bullets
(27:01):
the way that he has because you look at all
of the pieces that he's acquired, and you look at
all the hooplaw around those pieces, and it's second rounded out,
second rounded out, second rounded out. Like man, I mean
maybe maybe now is that is that time we'll see?
Speaker 1 (27:23):
Yeah, he had a good run. Let me ask you
this very succinctly, Rick, real quick to wrap things up.
What exactly are the Lakers right now? Oh? I think
Lebron's hacked your phone, Rick, So you got that Lakers
question out all of a sud his voice had to
(27:45):
be disguised. He went robotic quick Buchers on Fox Sports Radio.
Jam that phone up, jam mkom leg centered switch okay man,
that was Morgan Freeman with that giant grid in front
of him and yeah and the Batman with uh so
we'll see if we get Rick Buker back there. Lebron,
Lebron just got his phone like right away. Man, that's
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that's impressive. Like as soon as you said Lakers, it's
like there was some sort of like when when people
can google them and pop up, when when someone mentions
them on social media or something like all of a sudden, lak,
my ears are burning Buker's phone, jammt jam Attway.
Speaker 2 (28:21):
We're a big deal.
Speaker 1 (28:22):
We're listened to, and folks like to take what we
have and carry it forward. So yeah, Rick, as you
were beginning.
Speaker 3 (28:29):
To say, yeah, Kitty Buss and JJ were like him.
Speaker 1 (28:39):
He knows too much. So we heard you say right now,
they're a five hundred team, and that's when Lebron got
to your phone.
Speaker 3 (28:44):
That's exactly right.
Speaker 1 (28:45):
Yeah, And and.
Speaker 3 (28:50):
I mean, look, they didn't have Anthony Davis tonight, so
they have no shot of winning without Anthony Davis, and
their second best player is uh is almost forty year
old Lebron James, who is can still get numbers, can
still get his numbers, but he's getting them in a
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way that doesn't get anybody else numbers six six, and
he's and this is what I love about about Lebron
is Lebron is just he's so smart in terms of
like he knows that he has a good looking box score,
he's gonna he's gonna escape the blame. And and so
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if you look, I was just curious. I was because
because what I've noticed is, man, he's still in a
lot of lobs to Anthony Davis. And that's I mean,
Anthony Davis might be one of the best ali oop
finishers options that you can have, particularly in this small
ball game, right and uh. And so I looked at that,
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just randomly two double digit assist games, that that that
Lebron had half a his assists in booth games like
Anthony Davis.
Speaker 2 (30:03):
I can't fault's a good strategy.
Speaker 3 (30:07):
I'm just like, you know what he knows like when
it's when it's not there. And conversely, like tonight he
was working with Jackson Hayes and he was able to
get one off of Jackson, but that was about it
because Jackson's not He's just not the same as as
a d and he was and he winds up with
six assists and five turnovers. So it really is it's
(30:27):
an Anthony Davis driven team. And it's all well and
good to say we're going to empower him and we're
going to try to make him an m v P.
You're not gonna make him an MVP of your five
hundred record tee. That's just reality. First team All NBA.
You can probably get him there, but uh, there's just
not there's not enough there. And if you look at
this team, they're just they're not They're not very athletic,
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and that's what you saw against the Grizzlies. I mean,
they're they're they're getting killed inters transition. I think Lebron
had when he had thirty four points and he was
a whatever, he was a minus. It was the worst
than the team minus twenty one. Maybe it was a
big name minus minus bus minus twenty one. So he scored,
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he scored thirty nine points and yet the Lakers were
outscored by twenty one when he was on the floor,
And what teams have realized, is we didn't need to
get up and down. Austin Reeves doesn't want to, Like,
he doesn't want to bust it up and down because
he's not built for that. Lebron certainly isn't built for that.
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Anthony Davis can do it as a big, but he
doesn't want to consistently do that. D'andelo Russell like half court,
full court, doesn't matter. He's not staying in front of anybody.
So like, if you just play up tempo against them,
I there's there's really no answer for that, and then
you just have the whole I mean that not that
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you asked, but I just as I'm sitting here and
I'm looking and I'm seeing Annie James play get in
a you know, a blowout and he played five minutes,
I'm like, why is he not in the G League
getting playing time? Like if you're developing him, if this
isn't just Bron gets to tour with his son, Like
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why is because he didn't play that much at USC
and then he had the heart you know, he had
the heart issue and he wasn't really playing that much
in high school, I mean or playing a big role.
So if if you drafted him truly because you believe
that he can be an NBA player, needs to be
playing as much as possible, and then that's not going
to happen with the big team. So and you can't
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tell me that Jalens with Chaffino and some of the
other young guys on this team aren't looking at that
going You know, the guys that are on two ways
or are getting sent down to the South Bay, they're like,
what's what's going on here? And look, everyone on the
team is going to look at it and go, what's
going on here? And when you're a team that's as
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marginally talented as the Lakers, you can't have guys questioning
like are we all in to trying to win every
possible game? And yet there's a lot of things going on.
You just I just look at and I go, are
you really are you guys really looking to win every
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game possible? Or is this a matter of we're just
trying to be sort of entertaining and be a draw
And the bron brawny thing is still going to.
Speaker 1 (33:36):
Make us that.
Speaker 3 (33:38):
So we're gonna we're gonna roll with that. It just
it doesn't it doesn't sit It doesn't sit well with me.
For for the other guys on that team. You know,
there's guys trying to make a career here and and
uh and do care about winning, and I just there's
I got some questions is whether everybody with that Lakers
organization right now is thinking the same way.
Speaker 1 (34:00):
He's on Twitter at Rick Buker. Rick is always buddy, Appreciate.
Speaker 3 (34:03):
It, my man.
Speaker 1 (34:03):
We'll taught to you next week.
Speaker 3 (34:04):
No pleasure, guys, Thanks Rick anes you.
Speaker 1 (34:07):
Let's find out what's trending in the wide world of
sports from Monzi Blangyo's manse. What do you got for us?
Speaker 5 (34:11):
Well, the Clippers are up, guys, they're up. They were
tied at halftime with the seventy six ers and they're
outscoring them in the third quarter. So they're up sixty
four to fifty nine halfway through the third, Norman Powell
leading the way with eighteen points. The Raptors are up
on the King seventy nine to seventy seven. Four minutes
left in the third. The Nuggets handed Okay See their
first loss of the season, coming out on top when
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twenty four to one to twenty two. Denver was down
by sixteen at one point. All starters ended in double digits,
and of course, Nicola Jokic ended with a ridiculous triple
double twenty three points, twenty rebounds, sixteen assists. The Calves
are still undefeated, though they beat the Pelicans one thirty
one to one twenty two. This is the first time
in franchise history that the Calves have started nine no
o and the Lakers shorthanded. They lost today to the
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Grizzlies one thirty one to one fourteen. A little fell
for you guys. Buccaneers quarterback Baker Mayfield didn't practice today
because of a tow issue. Chiefs quarterback Patrick Mahomes says
his injured ankle was a little sore, but he wasn't
limited at practice, and then the Panthers announced that Bryce
Young is going to be their starting quarterback this weekend
against the Giants they play in Germany.
Speaker 1 (35:15):
Back to you guys, Thank you manch JAZ. The Jason
Smith Show with Mike Carmon live from the Tirack dot
Com studios. Coming up next, are we going to start
Week ten in the NFL with a big upset? That's
next Riding here Jason and Mike Fox.
Speaker 2 (35:29):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven
pm Pacific.
Speaker 1 (35:36):
Fox Sports Radio The Jason Smith Show with My best
friend Mike Harmon, Live from the Tirack dot Com Studios.
We've got something baseball stuff coming up in about ten
minutes involving everybody's favorite free agent. We're gonna talk about
him every day apparently till he signs. You're just trying
to speak it into existence, not speaking anything into existence
with Jan Soto and the met Snow. But tomorrow night,
(35:58):
Thursday Night Football, we got a really good one. We
have Cincinnati and Baltimore. And I know it's a short
week and it's one of those weeks where you're say,
on Thursday, i'd football. I like a lot of points
in this game, yep, and I'm gonna go with the upset.
I'm gonna take the Bengals getting six and a half.
Look at you, because these games. Look, the Bengals play
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the Bengals, and the Ravens and the Steelers all play
each other really well. Right This game went to overtime
a few weeks ago, and if it's possible, the raven
secondary is worse than it was when they met a
few weeks ago. That's a fine question. I mean, I
know that offense down. T Higgins isn't showing up again. No,
(36:43):
but it doesn't matter. Kind of a good thing. They
didn't give him a giant, giant check with a big
signing modus.
Speaker 3 (36:49):
Huh.
Speaker 1 (36:49):
But look they are finding they're big three now with
Burrow and Jamar, Chase and Chase Brown. If your name
is Chase, you're doing pretty well.
Speaker 4 (36:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (36:58):
And they went and picked up Herbert. Vinnie che is
doing well too. What does he does? He know everything
you need to I'll tell him what to do. This
is Chase Brown's offense when it comes to the backfield,
and he is terrific. And you can see why he
is now getting elevated. They make the move. Herbert is
going to be his backup. Yeah, and Moss is probably
done for the year. The Bengals are gonna put up
a lot of points in this game, and this is
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going to be a track meet and it's gonna be
And look, Deontay Johnson, you think is going to be
more involved this week? He only had a handful of
snaps last week and that was by design. They want
him to come in as the number three receiver, so
it's gonna be a little bit more of a of
a of a slower build up for him. But I
don't see the Bengals slowing the Ravens down. Six and
a half points is a lot, But I'll take Joe
Burrow and the Bengals in a shootout. Remember his game face.
(37:41):
Now you're talking about that. I got to scowl on
the sidelines, my game face. They're gonna put up a
lot of points. Give me the Bengals getting six and
a half. Yeah, it's no longer a week one or two,
which means they'll play better football. You forgot one big
important thing about the Bengals defense to date. What did
I forget? They stink to They're supposed to say, that's
a one thing wrong with the just I'm trying to
(38:03):
mind the mind the time. There's only one thing wrong
with you on a room, just one thing, one thing,
only one thing thing everything else. Yeah, Frostburg, what's not smell?
I don't know what's wrong, Mike. They stay, you go
see don't there we go? No, No, we got it.
Like I was just trying to make the long expository note.
(38:24):
But no, I mean the long one expository. Okay, okay,
you think I said suppository. Yeah so I thought you
said for a second, but no, no, you're not. Okay,
all right, actually done, he was ready, he was ready.
I heard suppository. So I'm playing that button right there.
But it says suppository on it. No, it's gonna be
a good battle. It I think it flies past the
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over which is at fifty three or fifty eight three points.
Whether you're shot, it's telling you take the under I did.
It's telling you a terrible even bringing in White, he's
not one hundred percent. I'm not sure that he even
sees the field here in the short week. The trade
they made with the Rams guy once upon a time
was a great corner and shut down operator. Uh, it's
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not that right now. But can't get any worse in
that secondary. No, no, no, no, I guess we when
you hit rock bottom, you understand that this may be
when the Beatles were singing, it's getting better all the time.
And in the background, good good bruch where uh but
the offense Lamar Jackson, Derreck, Henry Mark Andrews and the like.
Deontay Johnson makes his presence felt I'll take the Ravens
(39:31):
minus six and a half. Yeah, this this has like
thirty four to thirty one. Yeah, it'd be a fun
over it. You know, one of those few divisional games
we get excited about. Yeah, one of those games we're
on Thursday night. It's like, whoa, we get a lot
of points. You're like, hey, this is gonna be exciting. No,
that's really the best you're gonna get for a long time. Dude.
We're gonna have to have an extra camera on al
Michaels because he's gonna be very animated. Well, he's got
(39:52):
to be able to stay up and call all these
touchdowns that are gonna happen. We'll see how creative he gets. Yeah,
coffee more, who's made? Well, I'll tell you the do
the math. How close are we to fifty three? It's
eleven o'clock at night, the team's scoring touchdowns. I gotta
go to burn up all those prop bets behind me.
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Smith Show with Mike Carmon live from the Tirec dot
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