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November 8, 2024 39 mins

Jason and Mike are infuriated at the number of penalties that are missed on "Win or Lose" plays in the NFL. The Cincinnati Bengals are OK at 4-6. And the guys pay tribute to Golden Retriever, Ben Herbstreit, who passed away at the age of 10 after his fight with cancer!

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Speaker 1 (00:51):
Well, Thursday Night, This is everything you'd want in a
Thursday night NFL game. I know it's easy to complain
all the Thursday night games. Yes we are all Al
Michael's thirty five thirty four the Ravens beat the Bengals.
The Bengals score would have been a game tying touchdown.
With thirty eight seconds left to go, they decide to
go for two. Joe Burrow's pass Dan Hudson a little

(01:14):
bit high. However, two big penalties are missed on the play.
And this is not like oh that, No, these are
big penalties that are missed on the play and the
Ravens escape thirty five thirty four.

Speaker 2 (01:29):
Burrow takes the step, Ravens bring Bliss pressure. Burrow throws
at the end zone.

Speaker 1 (01:33):
It did complete, It did complete, and with thirty eight
seconds clift the play b havee a le barny, what
a wild one end to night.

Speaker 4 (01:45):
They still have the on side kick.

Speaker 1 (01:47):
But yeah, hey was kind of in the bar and
Ravens radio network and look, come on, the onside kick declared.

Speaker 3 (01:52):
Nobody gets that right, you're declaring the on side kick? Okay, great.

Speaker 1 (01:56):
You know the thing that's that is really getting me
now is that the number of on side kicks just
really quick on this is that now I'm seeing a
lot of on side kicks.

Speaker 4 (02:06):
That it's a.

Speaker 1 (02:07):
Different strategy for NFL teams, because you know what kickers
can do with the on side kick, But now the
trend that they are kicking it way short of the
ten yards hoping that the other team is going to
panic try to cover a squid because they kick it
where it kind of squibs around because I think team's

(02:27):
realizing trying to get that bounce, you know, ten yards
downfield doesn't always happen. But what they're doing is kicking
it short, kicking in a few hoping that you'd get
the panic and the player's gonna go is it gonna
get to ten yards?

Speaker 3 (02:38):
Is it's not?

Speaker 1 (02:39):
There's somebody right on me. I'm gonna get hit. I
gotta make the play. And they're hoping to get that
panic touch at like seven or eight yards, and then
that's gonna make it loose and it's gonna be easier
to recover for the kicking team because obviously, when you're
running seven yards eas you're gonna ball that after to
run ten or twelve yards. But that's not been going
that way. I've seen the last couple of weeks that

(03:01):
being a really popular strategy where we're gonna wait and
it's just not doing it because the right hands player
is coming up and making the play and the kicking
team is still kind of running past the ball a
little bit and you're giving you're giving the player kind
of an open lane to grab it because it is
kind of you know, it's kind of just spinning around
a little bit. So I've seen that be a strategy,

(03:24):
but it's not working out how kicking teams expected. Well,
we're still trying to figure out this new Uh. I've
got a declare thumb Moore kind of situation in the
NFL because we're at a handful I think over the
course of the year that have actually been successful. Right,
It's not been a play that's had great impact. And again,
the fact that you can't use it except in these

(03:44):
final minutes and circumstances is just Asenheim to me, kind
of like banning the shift.

Speaker 5 (03:49):
Learn to work around it. But hey, we got great drama,
and I'll give the Bengals credit. They gave me extra
extra juice for this game by going for two.

Speaker 1 (04:00):
I mean, come on, look, okay, first of all, well,
before we get to the officiating decision, I love the
call of going for two.

Speaker 3 (04:07):
Right.

Speaker 1 (04:08):
We watch it for Todd Bowles the other night where
because it was rainy and I don't want.

Speaker 4 (04:12):
To go for two.

Speaker 1 (04:13):
Awful decision because all he does is hey, second time
this year we have settled for overtime and we've not
seen the ball, right, awful decision by Todd Bowles and
the Bucks wind up losing.

Speaker 4 (04:24):
This was the call, It's the right call.

Speaker 1 (04:26):
You've just watched Lamar Jackson go up and down the
field on your defense for the entire night. Another near
perfect quarterback rating game for him. There's thirty eight seconds left.
He's gonna take over on his own thirty yard line.
They have a time out left. They will get into that.
And I know that he's not having a great year,
but Justin Tucker is still the best field goal kicker
of the last ten years in the NFL.

Speaker 4 (04:46):
You just get you need.

Speaker 1 (04:47):
You need twenty yards to get him into a spot
where he can kick a field goal, and you have
plenty of time to get there. And so I love
the call of going for two because if the other
team is just gonna take the ball and try to
win because they have a chance, you got to go
for two in that situation. And that's where a lot
of things go out the window. Is that with the
way the rules are in the NFL, and teams are
deciding it's okay, we're going to give you the ball

(05:09):
the thirty yard line. One completion, you're at midfield and
all of a sudden you're defending with your back to
the field goal line. Right with field goalkicking being as
best it's ever been in the NFL, defenders are saying, okay,
we're one We're one play away from defending the line
for field goal. So either teams have to make different
decisions or they have to kick the ball short of

(05:29):
the goal line and try to make the tackle at
the twenty. Because that clearly is going to change some strategy.
Maybe it changes the Raven strategy a little bit. Instead
of thirty eight seconds to go from the thirty yard line,
if it's thirty one seconds from the eighteen yard line,
maybe maybe we run a safe play and see where
we're at. The Bengals play for overtime. But knowing those
are the rules, you have to make the according of

(05:51):
the according decision. So that decision to say, if they're
just going to go try to go down the field
with a red hot quarterback, let's try to at least
have a lead and win this game, and if we
force them to kick a field goal, maybe they miss,
we win the game instead of going to overtime.

Speaker 4 (06:04):
So I love the call. I love the call that
they made. It was gutsy. It was a good play.
I don't mind.

Speaker 1 (06:10):
You'd like to see him throw to Jamar Chase, but
you can't throw them every ball. And clearly there were
a couple of penalties it should have been called on
the play. But the absolute call to go for two,
I loved it. I love the guts. If I can nitpick,
I would say, if you go for two, go up
to the line and have the play ready right like
cause the Bengals went up and Joe Burrow signaling right away,

(06:31):
we're going for to going for two. They let the
clock tick all the way down and they let the
time run out. They call time out. Now, whether they
didn't like what the Ravens had set up or they
didn't have a play ready, but they let it. They
let it come down and tick down, and then they
come back out and they go for two. I don't
like that because you give the defensive team some time
to figure stuff out, to get personnel on the field

(06:51):
and be able to defend that two point play better.

Speaker 3 (06:54):
Whereas if you're suddenly going for two, hey, you know it.

Speaker 1 (06:58):
On your sideline. We're going the off defences out there.
The defense is going who stays in, Who stays out.
You're getting up to the line of scrimmage, you're having
a play, and there's a lot of panic. And when
there's panic, assignments get missed and guys wind up being open.
That's the one thing I can say is that, boy,
I really love if you're going for two, and you
know you're going for two, what's the play. Let's call

(07:19):
it in. Let's not wait and call it time out
and see what we like and cross our arms and
say I don't like this.

Speaker 4 (07:24):
No.

Speaker 1 (07:24):
I wanted the Bengals to get up there, get right
in and go for two. Because if you give the
Ravens more a bad defense, time to tech catch their breath,
what are we going to do? How are we going
to defend this play? What are they coming out with?
Personnel wise? They had more time to figure out what
they wanted to do. You want there to be more chaos.
You want the defensive team that just you just went

(07:45):
down the field on them to score and potentially tie
the game. You want them to be back on their heels,
and the Bengals gave them a chance to catch their
breath and get on equal footing for that two point
pre group.

Speaker 5 (07:56):
What have they done here's the quick research on the
minute versus. All right, we've got to line it up
right now, we got twenty seconds go. What's our best look?
How do we defend this? And the first setup that
we discussed right as they did, the alignment where you
had Josevich on the left and Brown on the right,
Well they changed that up as they came back out

(08:17):
of the time out. But you know, I like being aggressive.
Stay aggressive, same thing, right, if you're going to go
for two, let's go run the play.

Speaker 3 (08:25):
See if you can catch them still trying to catch.

Speaker 5 (08:30):
Their wind, because you did just move the ball down
pretty effortlessly. And I like the aggressive when you talk
about what your offense is done behind Joe Burrow and
the plays he'd made time and time again. As much
as folks could say, well, you're not showing any confidence
in your defense, why would you?

Speaker 4 (08:48):
Why would you?

Speaker 5 (08:49):
First half was a lifetime ago for what they were doing,
and the one time they did have a shot where
Lamar Jackson made what could have been a critical mistake,
you dropped the ball and gave him another chance to
come like a movie monster, to come get you again.
So I like the aggressiveness, the idea of Hey, we're
coming up and we're gonna come and take the division,

(09:09):
and we're gonna make you make a play because they're
still gonna be thirty eight seconds, right, there's still going
to be time on the clock for Lamar Jackson to
do some work. And even if you can get the two,
you still got to defend, right, You're still got to
put it on your defense, not like you were putting
it out of reach. They still have to go make
a play. Why because twenty five yards thirty yards you're

(09:31):
in Tucker's extended field goal range. By the way, on
the year, it looks like they're projected for this season
where we're at at this point going into Week ten,
they're gonna be two hundred and fifty fifty plus yard
field goals.

Speaker 3 (09:46):
Last year they get to one hundred and fifty eight.

Speaker 4 (09:48):
Unbelievable.

Speaker 5 (09:49):
Unbelievable, like Jamar Chase trying to catch flipper and second
still one hundred away.

Speaker 1 (09:56):
So now to the penalties that weren't called on the
two point play, which is going to be the crux
of a lot of conversation we'll hear from Bengals and
Ravens players over the course of the next hour and
a half hour, forty five minutes. Is that two calls
were missed. One was an absolute holding call. Mike Azicky
is it gets tackled basically in the middle of the

(10:16):
field on the two point conversion, that is not called.
Joe Burrow gets hit in the face while throwing his
pass to Hudson. Again not not called. And in the
pantheon of the play itself, there's going to be there's
a bit of well did it really affect the play?
Burrow threw the ball, he tried to complete it, he didn't,

(10:39):
he wasn't throwing a gaziki, threw it to Hudson. Well
he did throw to Hudson because gaziki fell down. How
much that really have to do with the play. That's
not what it's about. It's about getting calls right. And
and for you know, talking to Jay Glazer a little
bit ago, I get the hey, well you don't want
us to throw the referee saying you don't want us
to throw flags on plays like this.

Speaker 4 (11:00):
Now you wanted to.

Speaker 1 (11:01):
Throw flag though, we want you to throw flags when
penalties are obvious. It's the whole ah, you could call that,
you could not call it. That's when you want to
keep the flag in your pocket. But these are two
plays where I'm sorry, there were a lot of penalties,
and I don't know if maybe obliquely in the officials
heads they called a lot of penalties on the Ravens
on the drive. We're gonna let these couple of plays go.

(11:21):
But you can't miss two obvious fouls on a team
on one play, especially on a win or lose play.
This play is too big to be able to miss
not one, but two calls on the quarterback who you're
looking at gets hit in the face and right in
the middle of the field. Tight end gets held and
drop to the ground, and there's no flag on it. Like,

(11:43):
you can't miss these calls. There's some calls I get, Oh,
you kind of missed a holding call here on the
left tackle. He had a bit of a hold of
the defensive end. Yeah, those things I get that you
miss sometimes, right. I understand that if a foul is
really far away from the ball and you miss somebody's
jersey getting held because the quarterback holds a wide receiver
when the quarterback had rolled out to the other side
of the field. No, I get missing those I don't

(12:05):
get the missing the call on a quarterback. I don't
get missing the call in the middle of the field
on a titan who was the only other guy in
the pattern. He's the only other wide out, your pass
catcher in the pattern, and you didn't get.

Speaker 4 (12:16):
These calls are big deals. You have to get these
right and right now.

Speaker 1 (12:21):
With NFL officiating, it's like it's like one of those
political things.

Speaker 4 (12:24):
How confident are you in your party?

Speaker 3 (12:26):
Now?

Speaker 1 (12:26):
How confident are you? What's your degree of approval rating
of officials? It's like less than fifty percent because there's
too many plays where hey, okay, officials get this call right,
this car But you can't get a call right and
then miss another one, and then I'll get the next
call right, then I'll miss another one. I mean, that's
lamar otum of officiating. I'll get every other call right.

(12:47):
I mean, and this is not just one, but two
on the same play.

Speaker 5 (12:50):
Yeah, I thinka SICKI one. I understand to a point
of he's still a tight end. You're still within five
yards of the line of scrimmage that you can say
it's tussling and until the ball comes out, you know
you're blocking him and clutching and grabbing like he's an
offensive lineman.

Speaker 3 (13:06):
It's a stretch.

Speaker 5 (13:08):
It may be a really big stretch, but I can
at least see that the blow to the head on Burrow, well,
I mean that, that's as clear as you know, the
nose on your face, and that's got to be called
because I heard a lot lot of stuff going back.

Speaker 3 (13:21):
To the hail Mary. See how I make it about me, Well,
you can't. You don't know.

Speaker 5 (13:25):
You're never gonna call holding on those plays, no matter
if the guy's got him in a bear hug, which
happened on that play with the Bears and the Commanders,
mind you, same thing here is? Is it one of
those situations where it's like, all right, let's see, let's
see what you got. You're not getting the call, because
Joe Burrow flat out says, hey, you're not gonna get
the call in that situation for the most part, referring

(13:46):
to the you know, getting hit in the head and
the face mask. Right, you can't take us, and I've
never really gotten those calls. He made sure to come out,
oh well, at least it doesn't happen for me.

Speaker 4 (13:58):
And he does.

Speaker 1 (13:59):
He does, he does it the right way. He's pretty
classy with when he says stuff like that, he does
you know, he he approaches that the right way, and
it's an another great thing to say about him. But
I mean, but these are calls that just can't get missed, right.
You can't miss hitting the quarterback in the face. You
can't miss a receiver getting tackle the middle of a
play like again, these are two big plays. And and
I don't know if it's a it's an epidemic, but

(14:22):
how many times have we seen on win or lose plays, right,
whether it's the Ravens and the Chiefs in the beginning
of the of the season, any Chiefs game, Chiefs and
the Falcons Chiefs and in certain team here, Chiefs in
a scrimmage, Chiefs doing a Mahomes commercial auto commercial?

Speaker 5 (14:42):
Are you doing plugs for a West team? Whether there's
you know, there's penalties.

Speaker 2 (14:49):
Are you under.

Speaker 1 (14:50):
Contract with the Raiders if you got to call penalty
when Andy Reid is reaching for those nuggies?

Speaker 6 (14:54):
You know?

Speaker 1 (14:55):
But the number of calls that are missed on win
or lose plays where it's a fourth down play and
a team is either getting in the end zoneer the
game is over, or it's a fourth down from the
twenty yard line, it's either a first down or the
game is over. And the number of defensive calls that
are missed is just astonishing, Like this is when, this
is when, Okay, you may have missed stuff the first
fifty eight minutes and forty five seconds, this is the

(15:17):
one you kind of have.

Speaker 5 (15:18):
But I'm gonna show you that SICKI as we're sitting here,
tell me that's not a soccer play to get to
the ground. Tell me that's not a all right, I
might have gotten held, but if I go to the ground,
maybe I get the call.

Speaker 1 (15:29):
Well, it's also knowing I'm not gonna get in the
play for the ball, so I'm gonna go to the ground.

Speaker 4 (15:34):
If he thought I could bring I.

Speaker 5 (15:35):
Can put it free of this, right, But it's all
but it's a cell job to be like, look, I
ended up on the.

Speaker 3 (15:40):
Ground over here, man.

Speaker 5 (15:41):
But because that guy turned his attention back to the
play to defender, he's like, I'm done with you.

Speaker 3 (15:46):
I did what I needed to do. And he's also
again line of scrimmage. Two yards. He got five yards.

Speaker 1 (15:52):
But again, you know the atamme, we looked at the
we have the official who's looking right.

Speaker 5 (15:56):
I know, at least with this, it's like, all right,
you could say he's at the line of scrimmage, he's
maybe block.

Speaker 3 (16:04):
With the blow to the helmet of Joe Burrow is inexcusable,
and we saw it multiple times with him earlier in
the game.

Speaker 5 (16:11):
Right, he didn't get that call on a drive earlier. Now,
they made the first down play to Joseva, right, that
was where we had the review and the stretched out
ten yards, But it was on that same possession that
he didn't get a call on the second down, and
it was clear the dude gave him the full on
slap to the face like he was in those leagues
that you see on YouTube.

Speaker 1 (16:31):
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how about a couple of big appreciation moments for what
we saw from both of these quarterbacks tonight.

Speaker 4 (16:49):
A hot take on Lamar Jackson.

Speaker 1 (16:51):
And maybe an even hotter one on Joe Burrow.

Speaker 3 (16:54):
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Speaker 5 (17:24):
I mean he does use a horn section. I will
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Speaker 1 (17:33):
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Speaker 2 (17:36):
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Speaker 4 (17:37):
Horn section.

Speaker 3 (17:41):
H an absolute thriller. On Thursday Night Football, we watched.

Speaker 1 (17:45):
The Ravens beat the Bengals thirty five thirty four. The
Bengals go for two at the end, they just miss it.
And look, we talked about the controversy, we talked about
the play. Now it's time to get into both of
these quarterbacks here, because for the rave Yeah, it's hard
to look at them and see that defense and go,
oh man, the Ravens are great. No, the Ravens have

(18:06):
a lot of problems. They have a lot of problems.
It's crazy that for a team that's always had a
solid defense, Oh, the year Lamar Jackson's having Now, we're
going to have our worst defense because honestly, because it's
I don't want to make it about the defense. This
is the best I have ever seen Lamar Jackson play.
Since he came into the NFL. He has had incredible years.

(18:29):
He's got a couple of MVPs, but watching him this year,
the ease with which he makes plays now is even
better than some of the best I've seen him. At
the confidence level that he is playing at throwing the football,
it's like everything is coming together for him at once, right,
Like you know, it's kind of like I always say

(18:49):
that Rogue One is the best Star Wars movie. Okay, yeah,
And I'll argument on this and we'll see if we
get this new trilogy that actually comes out, we'll see.

Speaker 4 (18:58):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (18:59):
But why do I like Rogue One Because it's where
it's the Star Wars movie where everything comes together, the
acting is really good, because you know, in other stories
movies the acting is not good. The special effects are
there because other you know, the test of time, some
of the effects don't.

Speaker 3 (19:12):
Wat. Yeah, but I mean, look, we've got to take
it as it goes right.

Speaker 1 (19:15):
But the acting, but the acting is there, the effects
are there, the story is there, everything that a Star
Wars movie should be.

Speaker 3 (19:23):
You have everything here right, well, lots of Star Wars.

Speaker 1 (19:26):
But but but with all of these things, you can say, well,
the acting, the acting in the first couple movies weren't good,
but the story was so good, and the and but
this is a movie where everything finally comes together and
it's everything a Star Wars movie should be. Story, plot, effects, acting,
And that's kind of where I'm at with Lamar, and
Lamar Jackson is where everything has come together for him

(19:48):
this year.

Speaker 4 (19:49):
The the ease with which he makes plays.

Speaker 1 (19:51):
It's not just a panic scramble, here's a designed run.
It's it's where I am so calm in the pocket,
extending play long as I can, and I will make
the play every single time. The jump pass he throws
for the touchdown to get it to Rashad Bateman like.
He is playing at a level that he has never
played at in the NFL. And a lot of that

(20:14):
is confidence, and it's confidence in the offense. It's confidence
he can make plays. He has enough playmakers at wide receiver.
They still haven't really incorporated Deontay Johnson at all. They
threw to him twice tonight, and this is not a
night where where guys had big nights receiving right like
he threw for two hundred and ninety yards and outside
of the one big play to Tylan Wallace for eighty

(20:34):
four yards, then you had guys having very, very pedestrian knights.
But it doesn't matter because he's getting the ball out
to his playmakers. He's extending plays and where in the past,
extending plays hasn't been his forte now it's I'm extending
plays and I'm gonna find the right guy. If I
can't find the right guy, you still can't tackle me
because I still have that physical advantage. This is the

(20:56):
absolute best Lamar Jackson has played. And if he continue
to play like this is, you can prop up Jared
Goff and all these other guys at quarterback and how
they're playing. But man, the more time goes on, it's
gonna be Can you really not vote for Lamar Jackson?
Can you really not vote from the season Saquon Barkley
is having for the Eagles. I told you what an
unbelievable year it is and he's maybe the MVP right

(21:18):
now because of what he's bringing to the team. But
if Lamar Jackson keeps doing this and he keeps showing
you how unbeatable he is, I don't know what to say.

Speaker 5 (21:26):
Man.

Speaker 1 (21:26):
If this is the best you've seen from him and
he's won MVP before, how is he not that guy
this year?

Speaker 3 (21:31):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (21:32):
The only thing that gets you is if they lose
a couple more games and then we start parsing out
all right stats versus other right, which which people would
they lose games because they lose thirty five thirty four
because the defense is terrible. But Lamar Jackson goes for
two ninety three touchdowns, he runs for sixty yards. He's

(21:52):
not gonna get I get it again. But you still
lost to the Raiders. That's not going away. Yeah, I know,
you wish you could just right. It's kind of like
you know those Look, it was Carolina and Dallas, but
two teams did lose to New Orleans and so you
got that and the Holster too.

Speaker 6 (22:08):
You know.

Speaker 1 (22:08):
It's like like I play a lot of Spider Solitaire
at night, and I play with all the different suits
and everything.

Speaker 4 (22:14):
It's kind of fun with that calm down.

Speaker 1 (22:15):
And if there's a game that's really frustrating that they
offer you what's called a magic and you use like
coins you get where you can hit a magic button
and it will erase aligned for.

Speaker 4 (22:25):
You and help you.

Speaker 1 (22:26):
I don't really use it because you know that that's
kind of cheating, but I think that's what the Ravens
would like to do to that Raider game. Hey, we're
playing solo, we're doing all this. Can we just have
that magic? Can you just erase a race? So no,
what no one remembers that game score?

Speaker 5 (22:41):
It's you drop the lowest score, right, you drop my
lowest quiz, you drop my lowest past.

Speaker 3 (22:46):
To whatever the case is.

Speaker 5 (22:47):
Okay, But the thing with the Lamar Jackson, and I
think you'll agree with this. As we were watching this
game unfold, they always talk about that year one, year two,
and maybe it takes a bit longer for quarterbacks, but
at so point in their career everything slows down. Right now,
we were watching him and it looks like it's really
slow for him. Right, he's a spider man and he

(23:10):
sees everything, you know, a million steps ahead or you know,
doctor strange for that, and he's levitating and seeing all
the different possibilities. But he looks like he's moving and
everything's moving slowly around him. As he's getting ready to
make a play. It's like, all right, we're gonna spot
like this, almost like the TV network has slow this
down so people really understand how great this is. No, no,

(23:32):
that's live that's live action. As he did that jump
pass right, guys are starting to run past him and
you can see the ooh kind of thing as he
goes and does the little flip of the ball to
Bateman in the end zone. All of that to say,
he's at his career high in terms of completion percentage.
He's averaging six yards of carry, he's twenty touchdowns, he's

(23:55):
taking care of the football, twenty touchdowns against two picks.
And as I always want to make sure we give
our love to the big fellas up front, something that
hasn't been there consistently the last couple of years. On
the offensive side, you got Ronnie Stanley playing at an
all pro level again, guy who's missed a lot of
time the last couple of years. Because you're looking at

(24:15):
Lamar Jackson right now, if you double his sacks, say
we extrapolate it at this rate to the end of
the season, he's still twelve fewer than last year, so
more opportunity to make plays, more playmakers out there for him.
They didn't even have Isaiah Likely this time around. But
the arrival of Derrick Henry allows you to really pull
the strings man, and Lamar Jackson is the beneficiary. And

(24:38):
so are we getting to watch these games because it's
pinball effect every week.

Speaker 1 (24:42):
He's like watching Smooth Jazz like if at you if
Smooth Jazz stand up base, if Smooth Jazz was a
football player, he would be Lamar John.

Speaker 5 (24:53):
Descenda get to speak behind the Lamar Jackson highlights and
Lamar Jackson like the chauffeur of the law limousine, content.

Speaker 3 (25:01):
To let the pods do the driving.

Speaker 1 (25:03):
So there's your reaction to how great Lamar Jackson is.
What are people not saying about Joe Burrow that they should?
That's coming up in ninety seconds, But first special delivery,
Steve to Sager, who always goes for two, tells us
what's trending right now in the wide world of sports.

Speaker 6 (25:21):
Actually, AP sent out a stat after this game here
as the Bengals miss a two point pass in the
final minute and lose at Baltimore thirty five thirty four
In the NFL since the year two thousand, What are
the records of teams that go for two in the
final minute of regulation when they're down one, or just
kick the pat down one in the final minute? Neither

(25:42):
is at the five hundred mark. Just for the record,
teams that go for two have a worse record ten
and sixteen winning percentage of three eighty five, where if
you just kick to tie a four to thirty two
winning percentage, Again, neither a winning winning percentage.

Speaker 1 (25:58):
Did you read that right off of the great Langs
as she tweeted that out? No, that's not a baseball stat,
So maybe she's branching out.

Speaker 4 (26:06):
She got to take a month off at some point.
All right, maybe not a month.

Speaker 3 (26:09):
You got a great step, get some Actually the best
night is remember.

Speaker 4 (26:13):
We're in free agency already.

Speaker 6 (26:15):
See last well that's that stats last hour stats. Steve
I mentioned that the Ravens had in even one hundred
yards rushing as a team, which meant this was going
to be forty three straight games, tying their own all
time NFL record forty three straight games with one hundred
yards rushing as a team, and then Lamar Jackson took
a knee at the end minus one yard rushing. The

(26:39):
streak is over, ladies and gentlemen.

Speaker 3 (26:41):
Well.

Speaker 6 (26:42):
Joe Burrow had four touchdown passes over four hundred yards
through the air, but in defeat as the Bengals missed
the late two point pass Jamar Chase in the loss,
eleven receptions two hundred and sixty four yards and three scores.
Bengals wide receiver t Higgins was out again with a
quad injury. By the way, Baltimore safety c Yle Hamilton
left tonight with a sprained ankle. Lamar Jackson and Victory

(27:04):
four touchdown passes two hundred and ninety yards through the air.
Baltimore's next two games at the Steelers and then at
the Chargers when We're gonna get a hardball Bowl. Jacksonville
quarterback Trevor Lawrence is likely out this weekend with a
left shoulder injury. The forty nine Ers expect running back
Christian McCaffrey to return to play Sunday. Bill's wide receiver

(27:24):
key On Coleman missed practice again with a wrist injury,
but quarterback of the Titans Will Levis practiced fully for
the first time in three weeks after his shoulder injury,
which is three NBA games. Tonight, Minnesota got thirty three
points from Anthony Edwards in a win at Chicago one
thirty five to one nineteen. Milwaukee was hosting Utah in
a battle of one and six teams. Bucks won at

(27:45):
one twenty three to one hundred. Damian Lillard thirty four points,
Gianni Santenacunmpo thirty one points and sixteen rebounds. San Antonio
coach Greg Popovich is out indefinitely with the health issue.
San Antonio won at home against Portland, won eighteen one five.
Tyrese Maxi of Philly could miss multiple weeks with a
strained hamstring. Brownie James is two to play for the

(28:06):
Lakers G League teams starting Saturday and among the twelve
NHL games. Late night contest at San Jose early third period,
Minnesota is winning again three to one. Winnipeg now thirteen
and one after it's one nothing victory. Over Look, how
good the Jets are Colorado? Good are the Jets? Show,
mister Hurricanes, They've won eight in a row. Beat Pittsburgh

(28:28):
back to you.

Speaker 1 (28:28):
Yeah, we have who know they We're gonna trade out
two of our top defenders, bringing four new wingers. Tadah,
we're the best team min hockey. You know, if the
Jets are the best.

Speaker 6 (28:36):
If the Ravens traded out two of their top defenders,
would they have anybody least?

Speaker 1 (28:41):
It would be the same. Yeah, it'd be exactly the same.
That used to change it much now. Look, we talked
about Lamar Jackson this being the best he's ever played
in the NFL.

Speaker 4 (28:49):
It really is something.

Speaker 1 (28:51):
Everybody knows how talented Joe Burrow is, but he misses
time and the Bengals underachieve. And even said after the game, look,
it's kind of tough right now. You've seen the kind
of player he is and and putting on display tonight
how good he is. But one thing that doesn't get appreciated,
and I always love this is I want to see.

Speaker 3 (29:09):
How tough is my quarterback?

Speaker 1 (29:11):
How is he going to respond when he gets hit
and has a tough time getting up and he's limping
off the field, or he's got a limp back to
the huddle, because now it's third and ten and he
just got creamed by a blind side hit. After he
just releases the football and Joe Burrow and not just tonight,
but there were plays tonight where he's he got hit,
he got hit late, he got hit, and then penalties

(29:33):
were called. He got hitting, penalties were not called. He
is one of the toughest quarterbacks the last few years
in the NFL because he just continually gets up, doesn't
say anything, doesn't have bad body language towards one of
his teammates. Does he give you the Aaron Rodgers eye
roll or doesn't get He just simply gets up and
goes to make the next play.

Speaker 4 (29:53):
He is he is the next.

Speaker 1 (29:55):
Version of Joe Montana in that the talent, that toughness,
the leadership, he just oozes.

Speaker 4 (30:03):
All of that well.

Speaker 1 (30:04):
Asking how he watching, how he responds after a big
hit to come back and just make the next play
and doing that by example, I mean, that's just really
really special. And for all the talent, we know how
good he is. And like I said, the Bengals are
in the era of good feeling. As long as he's
playing that toughness aspect of it, that is something that
people should be more appreciative of.

Speaker 5 (30:26):
Yeah, you stick with their era of good feeling over there.
You tried to put it on the Bears and it
was like a hex. So you take that back the beginning.

Speaker 1 (30:33):
It's the beginning of the ten years of good for
the Bears is the beginning. The Bengals are kind of
in the midst of it. He's under contract for another
two years. I'll remind you, well, listen, I'm coming around
to how terrible he is. But that's okay, Well, that's
a story. As my Jim teacher, mister Williams in high
school would say, that's a story for another day.

Speaker 5 (30:50):
After a decade, you gotta start listening to me, man,
I know what I'm talking about. But for Joe Burrow, right,
he's had the Joe Cool nickname since he was back
at LSU. This photo from the locker room and the
cigar and all that fun stuff. Look, we've seen it
time and again that this guy just keeps getting up.
We've used the analogy of the horror film villain. You

(31:11):
got to make sure you extinguish him because it looked
like the Ravens were gonna finish this thing off, and lo.

Speaker 3 (31:16):
And behold, Burrow leads him down another another drive.

Speaker 5 (31:19):
You had a couple of penalties that were actually called
on the drive to help put them in position. But
another pinpoint precision throw to Jamar Chase and off we go.
You remember last week getting on Burton who was sitting
down on the bench, like you haven't earned sitting down
on the bench. Get up with your teammates, let's go
like and trying to rally them because they recognize once

(31:42):
again and this is this is the only thing. I
fault him. But I can only do it to a
point because he's always hurt. Is they they come out
of the gates terribly every year. Yeah, it's like you
can't do it, Like eventually that runs out right. That
formula is not something you keep going to the well. Well,
we can give away one or two games, maybe three

(32:02):
to start the season, but damn it once we hit October.

Speaker 1 (32:06):
Look out, Hey, why is our report date to camp September? First,
let's make it earlier. You know who Burrow is?

Speaker 3 (32:13):
Who's Burrow is? He He's a T one thousand. He
just keeps getting up and coming back from one.

Speaker 4 (32:16):
Yeah, I mean he really seeing somebody.

Speaker 3 (32:19):
Robert Patrick. I like that he got hit.

Speaker 1 (32:21):
On one play in the third quarter where it was
it was a late hit that should have been called
and he gets up and you could tell he just
got crunched in the ribs and he gets up and
I'm saying, is he going to stay in the game?

Speaker 3 (32:36):
And he gets up and you can see his eyes
do that.

Speaker 1 (32:40):
And a couple of steps and he's limping and what
was Lyneman says, you know, I'll help you, and he
kind of shakes it off and he comes back and
the next play is a big completion.

Speaker 3 (32:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (32:48):
I mean he didn't say, hey, make a block, Jert Man.
He just gets hit and just gets back up and
makes the play. And that his talent is one thing,
but being able to do that, man, that isn't that.
After the Road Warriors shoulder tackle, dude was what three
P forty came straight down on top of him air
all knocked out, well came.

Speaker 1 (33:08):
Back exit out about a Fresco exit swollen down. The
Jason Smith Show with Mike Harmon live from the Tirack
dot Com Studios. Coming up next, Hey, we watched Thursday
Night football tonight. Following a big story that broke earlier
in the day, we lost an absolute legend. We're gonna
break it down. Coming up next, Jason and Mike Fox
Sports Radio.

Speaker 2 (33:29):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven
pm Pacific, Fox.

Speaker 1 (33:37):
Sports Radio The Jason Smith Show with My best friend
Mike Harmon, Live from the Tirack dot Com studios and
lost in the drama of Tonight's incredible Thursday Night game,
Baltimore beat Cincinnati thirty five thirty four. Al Michaels Kirk

(33:58):
Kirk Street doing the game. Al Michael's very happy.

Speaker 5 (34:00):
Hey, we got a big game, and evidently went off
on the officials. Shut right, Yeah, a bunch of penalties
actually called on the Ravens. Not to discount that there
were thirty I think thirty five yards of penalties on
that drive.

Speaker 3 (34:13):
All are deserved, but we talk.

Speaker 5 (34:16):
About the ones that are missed, and I guess Al
was pretty upset. I think he wanted overtime. Did he
want overtime or he wanted one more?

Speaker 2 (34:24):
Can you know?

Speaker 4 (34:24):
Yeah, you know, he talks about the number a lot.
I don't know. Maybe, yeah, I don't know that he
wants You really think Al wanted overtime?

Speaker 5 (34:31):
Come on, man, well they wouldn't kick the pat if
they scored a touchdown on ahead.

Speaker 3 (34:35):
Guys. It's it's it's it's eleven thirty.

Speaker 4 (34:38):
Come on, man, I'm seventy five. It's eleven thirty. I gotta.

Speaker 5 (34:42):
Well, all right, and then you go all ages. I'm
not gonna do that, bro. I know Al stays up
till three every night.

Speaker 4 (34:50):
Maybe you know, maybe you're right.

Speaker 5 (34:52):
Maybe he goes King of Queens straight into Seinfeld that
he doesn't stop until the television.

Speaker 4 (34:58):
Networks go off the air and they play the so.

Speaker 5 (35:00):
The star Spangled banner or an infomercial for some kind
of vacuum.

Speaker 1 (35:04):
But look, but tonight obviously very difficult and some of
the biggest sports news today. Kirk Kurbstreet's dog Ben, who
has become a huge personality in his own right over
the past couple of years as he travels to all
the games with Kirk Kurbstreet. Herbstreet putting out the heartbreaking
post earlier today that they had to put Ben down.

Speaker 4 (35:25):
He was really, really sick.

Speaker 1 (35:26):
The cancer had spread too far in him and there
was no more comfort and it was a really difficult
story to read.

Speaker 4 (35:34):
I mean, if you've been following it all.

Speaker 1 (35:36):
The last couple of weeks, he's been talking about the
journey and talking about Ben's health and it was just,
you know, and I kind of knew it was coming
obviously when you talk about, hey, you know Ben, you know,
can really use some prayers right now. And we knew,
you know, I knew that that Ben wasn't doing well.
But still it's such a it's such a gut punch, now,
you know. I mean, I was I was never a

(35:58):
dog guy because I was allergic to dogs my whole life.

Speaker 5 (36:01):
Were you truly allergic to dogs?

Speaker 2 (36:06):
No?

Speaker 4 (36:06):
It was bad.

Speaker 1 (36:06):
I had I had bad allergies. The dander of the
dog was bad, shedding of dog was bad. And I
never thought I could have one, and I never really
thought about it. And then we found this breed of
multipoo that I'm fine with and I don't have I
don't have any allergies to it is sorry that is
a half poodle, half Maltese because they don't shed and

(36:28):
there's no dander, and it's like amazing Jurassic Park labs. Yes, exactly.
So so we have Benny, you know, Funny Ben Benny.
So we had Benny now for two years, just turned two.
And it's it's amazing how much Funny is and I
and I and I get dogs and I get having
a dog as a pet, and and what what kind
of joy he brings every single day? Never vegetables he does.

(36:50):
He likes carrots and he likes peppers.

Speaker 3 (36:52):
Because we know that al Michaels won't, you know, he won't.

Speaker 1 (36:56):
I mean, look, he wants a piece of cheese more
than anything else, but he will also eat that. So
it's and just this this journey with dog. He loves cheese.
He loves lots of dogs like cheese. And it's not
you Ben, you know, And so it's it's I follow
this story differently than I would have even five years ago.

(37:16):
And it's it's just to see herb Street, who obviously
had so much love for his dog. I've had dogs
my whole life, but Ben was was the most special.
And to see him Ben att all of these games,
you know, with him in the booth and and and
and being on the field, like just seeing how happy
he was, right because there's gay He's on the field

(37:39):
with Kirk Kurbstreet where there's cannons going off and fireworks
and fifty thousand people cheering, and Ben's like, yeah, it's
pretty cool. You see him smiling and panting and having
a great time with him. It's really yeah, but not
all do I mean, how many dogs do you know,
no matter what the breed is that that that that
love fireworks.

Speaker 4 (37:59):
No dogs like fireworks.

Speaker 3 (38:00):
Yet He's just like, yeah, I'm good, I'm good. This
is fun.

Speaker 4 (38:02):
I've been a game. This is a big game. I mean,
just seeing.

Speaker 1 (38:06):
How at ease he was and how much fun he
was having because he loved being with his human, he
loved being with with kirk kurb Street. It really was something.
It was some kind of life. We talked about it
all through last year. Look at Ben living his best
life man at these games, at these games, having fun.

Speaker 3 (38:21):
Ten great years at Kirkirkstreet. I mean, how great is it?

Speaker 5 (38:24):
Also is as the dog owner, if you don't want
to go for the walk, there's thirty five people that
are lining up because I'll take Bend.

Speaker 2 (38:32):
I mean I'm just talking.

Speaker 5 (38:33):
About people that are on staff, talking about people in
the crowd, right, So yeah, I mean, man Al Michaels
could take Ben for a walk sure, like on the
elevator whatever. I mean Ben, Ben would be laying on
the floor behind them as they're doing the broadcast.

Speaker 4 (38:47):
Just all of that.

Speaker 5 (38:48):
I mean, look, it's something I didn't recognize until the
last couple of years, never had pets. There are times
where it's still the ah anytime I move now you
think you're going for a walk, you don't stop and
you're scratching indoors. But hey, you love them all the
same And the mental health part of it is somethingly

(39:08):
something I'm becoming more and more one in understanding as
I get older.

Speaker 1 (39:13):
I mean, Ben Ben is just an absolute legend and
what a life. Rest in peace, Ben, I mean it really,
it's it's an emotional time, but boy, what a great journey,
What a great journey he had. With Kirk Kurbstreet, Uh,
Jason Smith, Mike Harmon Live the tyrack dot Com Studios.
We'll hear from Joe Burrow coming up next, and more
big stuff coming off of Thursday Night Football. Are the

(39:35):
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