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Speaker 3 (00:56):
How do I say this? I feel?
Speaker 1 (00:58):
I'm I'm mad at my self, I'm mad at the rams.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
Yeah, I feel like I've been hoodwinked.
Speaker 4 (01:06):
Well, I feel like this entire weekend probably made you
feel that way. Prem your Syracuse loss that was terrible,
to the Jets debacle, to the bold prediction you made for.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
Ramming it all day and ramming it all now.
Speaker 4 (01:20):
I forgot Nick Nicks lots of the pacers on Sundays.
Just pushing that to the side. It's it's November basketball.
Although the tournament starts tomorrow, Yes, tomorrow, We've got eighty
four guys that are already lost to injuries and illnesses
and questionable coaching and roster decisions and well maybe hiding
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in a load management kind of way.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
But we're gonna start the tournament tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
Dannity, we get the new Port.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
It's gonna be terrific. Are they gonna start glowing? And
like Strobe Light kind of got to.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
Do something right. Last year was one thing. Now this
year's got to be a little bit more random.
Speaker 4 (01:56):
Razor blade start flying up like you're in a chase
scene in India.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
It's a John Wick movie. Just t razor blade at someone.
Speaker 5 (02:03):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
The Throwing Stars as they call the Rams lose tonight
to the Dolphins twenty three to fifteen.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
What a game it was. It was not a great game.
Uh it was not seventy I think it was a game.
Oh what I know? Was that bad?
Speaker 1 (02:18):
I'd say, if you're ranking one through two, and somebody's
got to do that may as well be us.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
You guys saw way worse on your team's on s.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
Yeah, no, no, if you're going one through two seventy two,
I would say this game's gotta be maybe around like
twenty two twenty one, whatever it takes. Yeah, you get chest,
it's gotta be around two twenty. This game wasn't good
for anybody. Nobody looked really good, but the Dolphins were
able to win and the Rams. I feel bad because
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I look at this game and I go, just what
the hell? Man? Every time, I feel like, hey, the
Rams have solved their problems right. They figured it out right.
They finally got healthy, They got all their weapons. Their
defense is really good. You see some They got some dudes. Man,
they make big plays. They held the Dolphins down tonight
two of three for two hundred yards. Eight Chan was
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a leading rusher of thirty five yards. They got dudes, man,
This is good forget Hey, it's great. Aaron Donald was
at the game tonight watching, Hey, they don't miss them.
Speaker 4 (03:14):
Maybe they channeled a little bit of his energy because
they got after two a little bit and made him chase.
He had an interception and then put himself in harm's way,
which I did not understand. But all of that to say, yeah,
they did a pretty good job overall, but couple of
drives and that's it.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
But they come up with an effort that makes you go,
what was this man? I mean, I picked him to
go to the super Bowl. And that's why I feel
bad because I to the super Bowl. Beginning of the season.
Then it was okay with them. Not because they got hurt, right,
they had a lot of injuries.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
Oh yeah, you had a lot of excusive sometimes reasons.
You can building excuses. That's great.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
If you can build in legitimate excuses, I'm okay with that.
Not excuses that don't make any sense or thin excuses. No,
if you can build in great excuses like no Cooper Cup,
no pookin na Kua, you building great excuses.
Speaker 3 (03:58):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (03:59):
But this Rams team now, and yeah, it's not awful
because look, the Cardinals are in first place in the West.
The division is terrible. The Cardinals are six and four,
You're a game and a half back. Everything is still
kind of there. But every time I feel like I
want to believe in the Rams and think here, all right,
they're back. They get everything they need, they get this
craptastic effort tonight. I mean the Dolphins defense is okay,
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likes it's top half of the league, but not to
the point where what they three for fifteen on third down?
Like you got you got some guys on offense. Man,
you're healthy, you have a star running back, you got
two star wide receivers. You have everything you need, and
all you can muster is five field goals. And it's
not like you got to the five yard line every possession.
You get half of these field goals. The three field
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were over fifty yards, they were barely there. How do
you have an effort like this offensively against a team
that comes into two and six that is looking for answers,
that is basically coming in to show up, flying three
thousand miles to play a game and go back home,
and you hand this game over to them.
Speaker 3 (04:59):
I mean, I mean it.
Speaker 4 (05:00):
Man.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
I'm mad at myself, I'm mad at the Rams, I'm
mad at their fans.
Speaker 3 (05:03):
I'm not just mad at everybody.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
Right now, because like, this team should be so much better,
and they should be better now that they're healthy, and yes,
they had won three games in a row. This should
have been another one. And this is some kind of
eyebrow raising shocker tonight. I would have never thought the
Rams are gonna lose this game at home to the Dolphins,
and yet here they are where they were chasing the
Dolphins the entire night, and the Dolphins could do nothing offensively.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
They were lucky enough to get.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
Down and score the points they did, and the Rams
kept kicking field goals and tried to stay within shouting
distance of the Dolphins all night. There was no point
in the game where hey, here come the Rams. They
get hot for a quarter, Yes they were down, but
here they are back in the game. No, there was
none of that from the Rams in this game. And
I just go every time I believe in the Rams
coming back and doing it. They give you an effort
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like this and make you scratch ahead and go are
they really.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
Gonna put it all together?
Speaker 1 (05:53):
Like?
Speaker 3 (05:53):
Are they really? Because they have the town, they have
everything they need to put it all together, Are they
really gonna do it? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (05:57):
Dolphins came in and give it up twenty three point
five for a game Rams about one point more per Uh.
You had the big play from John hu Smith, which
should have been an eight yard completion goes back to
the old fundamentals that we yell about a lot early
in the seasons, like, ah, you know, guys haven't been
tackling in training.
Speaker 3 (06:15):
Can No, it's weak ten? Tw ten? Wrap the guy
up the training can it's November.
Speaker 4 (06:24):
Running into a tight end thinking hey, I'm gonna be
able to shoulder his ass to the ground is just stupid.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
This guy's two sixty.
Speaker 4 (06:31):
Five six ' five running with a full out of
steams like, yeah, I'm gonna bounce him to the ground
and then I'm gonna stand.
Speaker 3 (06:37):
No, he pinballed off you and ran down to the one.
Speaker 4 (06:39):
Yard line and, much to the chagrine of Devon h
Hn fantasy owners, two throws the one yard touchdown pass
to Tyreek Hill.
Speaker 3 (06:48):
But that play stands for so much, right, Like, you
can do a lot of.
Speaker 4 (06:51):
Things right, and then you get bogged down in the
fundamentals three of twelve on third down conversions, you know,
giving the color to what you say.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
Before you know you run a few more plays.
Speaker 4 (07:02):
You had six penalties to Miami's one, including several that
absolutely crushed, including one on a field goal attempt. Right,
you had the five yard penalties, So now he's kicking
from fifty seven. Guess what pushes it right at fifty two,
probably slides just oh so uncomfortably inside of the upright.
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So all of that to say, you're not finishing drives,
you're not making a big play, like Nikola comes out
looking with a solid game, but it's a bunch of
empty calories. Right, It's like, all right, here's a little
dump off, move the ball.
Speaker 3 (07:37):
What are we doing.
Speaker 4 (07:38):
We're settling for another field goal and Matthew Stafford you
can dink and dunk and whatever. Miami did a good job.
They took away the big plays. DeMarcus Robinson didn't appear
in the box score until the final two minutes of
the game. He's got with five touchdowns his last four games,
and thinking maybe you do something to try to, you know,
take the top off the defense with him downfield. He
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only had three targets to that point one catch. So
it's it's the difficulty and they did a good job.
Did the Dolphins had taken away Kien Williams. He was
as ineffective as a chan and the run game for
the Dolphins. On the other side, they played to a
draw in terms of ineffectiveness in the run game, both
totaling between sixty five and seventy yards, like, it was
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just not not efficient on for either squad. There and
Kyen Williams, even though he's only been averaging three point
seven three point eight yards of carry per game, you've
been able to run him consistently to set up the
downfield strikes and that didn't exist today. So all of
that to say, just a disappointment when you think, hey,
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maybe there's a jumping off point. I didn't think they'd
blow the Dolphins out, but I thought they'd win the game,
and instead they were listless.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
You know.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
And this is why I say, at the end of
this year, this is going to be it for Matthew
Stafford with the Rams, because when you have a team
in a situation like is where Okay, we had a
lot of older players and we were the oldest team
in the NFL, and what did they do a little
bit over a year ago. We are going to turn
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in one of the youngest teams in the NFL. All right, well,
what's happened. Well, here's what we've done. We've unearthed enough
playmakers defensively that now our defense is really good. Yes,
and missing Aaron Donald stinks because Aaron Donald is the
best defensive player any of us have seen the past
twenty five years. But they've been able to survive without. Okay,
what have we done offensively? We unearthed a brand new
superstar in pukin Nakua, right, we thought Cam Akers a
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superstar running back? Doesn't matter. Kien Williams is even better.
Cooper Cup one of the best wide receivers in the NFL.
He's still a dude. Everything else is fine. Matthew Stafford,
thirty six year old quarterback going to be thirty seven,
has not been good. And the first half of last
year he was bad. Last half of last year he
was good, and that got him this year. Okay, that
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last half of last year got him to, Hey, let's
go one more, one more roundup, one more going forward
with Matthew Stafford. Let's try let's bring the band back,
run it back one more time. This is the year
that Matthew Stafford got for having the last half of
last year. It's not gonna be next year's his real No, no, no,
no no, Because if you've done all these things and
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you're still falling short, there's gonna be a change, and
not that it's all Matthew Stafford. But if you take
away the Vikings game, right, which is the best game
of the year by far, It doesn't mean it didn't happen,
but you take that Vikings game away. In eight games,
he's five touchdowns, six interceptions, and.
Speaker 3 (10:31):
A quarterback rating of eighty five. Those are Zach Wilson
Canny Pickett type numbers.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
Okay, as those are twenty twenty four Aaron Rodgers type numbers.
Speaker 3 (10:40):
Those are awful numbers. And you can't. You can't.
Speaker 1 (10:43):
You don't want to blame and say, okay, it's all
your quarterback's fault. But when you've done this to the defense,
and this to the weapons and this what's left to do.
Speaker 3 (10:50):
You can't.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
You can't come back and tell the team again and
say okay, and tell the team and tell the fans. Hey,
next year, all right, we're gonna run back one more
time with Matthew Stafford. What would the reaction be. It
would be a groan across the board. Stafford one more time?
Come on, man. He was inconsistent two years ago, he
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was in terrible this year. We gotta find something else
out and there's a way to get out from under it.
I always say there's a way to do stuff money
wise when he's owed money over the next couple of years.
But if he's designated a post June one cap hit,
it's only twenty five million in dead cap money. And
with the way the salary cap goes up, you can
deal with twenty five million dollars in dead cap money.
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The Rams have been able to do this for a
better part of the last decade. Hey, we're just gonna
keep signing guys and turning guys over and making moves.
It works, so they'll be able to go at draft
a quarterback or find someone who is available in free
agency where the Rams can say, hey, here's a couple
of first round picks, we'll take this guy from you.
We need to move on, and that works. This will
be it for Matthew Stafford in LA. He's playing for
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his job for the next few weeks. And yes, the
good news is they're only a game and a half
back in the NFC West. The NFC West is terrible.
But the bad news is he has been awful all
season long. He has not been the same guy. And
if he was thirty years old, it's different. But he's
thirty six is gonna be thirty seven, and the team
is getting kind of itchy and antsy to say, Hey,
if all of this stuff we have, if we've remade
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this whole team, and we got younger here, and younger
here and younger here, here's the old guy right here
that could be holding us back.
Speaker 3 (12:22):
That's just the way things go in the NFL. And
they would move on from him next season. Well, let's
have a little bit of fun.
Speaker 4 (12:27):
Shall we takeath on record of remaining opponents for the
Rams just above five hundred. On the plus side, you've
got the Bills, You've got the Eagles, you've got the Cardinals,
and you've got the forty nine Ers, so a couple
of divisional tilts still to go. On the other side,
you know the lesser than teams, I don't want to
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call him terrible, or you know, your Jets whatever you
would describe to them, Seahawks, Patriots, the plucky Patriots, the Saints,
and are New York Football Jets. There's the rest of
your Rams schedule. So we actually get to see Stafford
and Rogers battle in theory. But the Rams did a
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bunch with Stafford's contract more money this year, giving up
some guarantees for twenty five, which allows for the reassessment
and the easier out which at this point for Sean
McVay looking at the roster, he's got younger guys, still
some juice, They're right, Kyron Williams still on the rookie deal,
Cup Nikua.
Speaker 3 (13:28):
All of that to say, you.
Speaker 4 (13:29):
Can go find that player maybe to bring in and
get that explosiveness back, which is clearly lacking right now
from this Ram squad. If you're settling for field goals,
and look Miami's defense young, they've played in spots but
still giving up nearly twenty four points a game.
Speaker 3 (13:48):
I mean, look, you play. You could say something like this,
I'll give you the. I'll give you the if you
try to shove Aaron Rodgers. Oh no, no.
Speaker 1 (13:55):
No, that like you could do something as simple or
as gutsy as hey, we're gonna go get Justin Fields
for nothing from the because he's gonna be available. We're
gonna go get Anthony Richardson for a couple of picks
the Colts want to move on. It could be something
like that, or it could be something as big as Hey, Jacksonville,
here's a couple of first round picks you want to
get out from under Trevor Lawrence. We think we can
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turn him into it. Sean McVay, I can turn him
into a great quarterback out here and happen first right now, right.
Speaker 3 (14:24):
Well, put the money you're paying. But you never know,
right because they've done that.
Speaker 4 (14:26):
The only way you give them a couple of first
is if they're paying all his money.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
But that's the scope of what the Rams can do.
And they will wind up doing that in the offseason
because this is just not it's just not good enough.
And and this is where the blame falls on the quarterback.
And when he's older and he's not performing, this how goes.
Speaker 4 (14:44):
Sure because none of it falls on Sean McVay because
he's a genius, don't you know.
Speaker 3 (14:49):
It's it's never his fault.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
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a big story in the NFL coming up in a second,
but uh, but we lost an absolute legend today. Former
USC and Rams head coach John Robinson died at the
age of eighty nine. Not many people have had this
success that he had both in college and the NFL.
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And it's really weird because I was just having a
conversation about him this week and with a friend of mine,
and it just really quickly mentioned John Robinson's name, like,
oh yeah, wait to go back when you go back
to get John Robinson. Oh man, boy, I'd love that era.
Forget about the Pete Carrollarry. He was like, I'd love
to have that John Robinson at USC again.
Speaker 3 (16:01):
Oh yeah, I can.
Speaker 1 (16:01):
Look, he had a great run at USC, won bowl games.
And then jumped to me, the head coach of the
Rams was just having a conversation about him on Saturday
for a few minutes, but look, he died in Baton
Rouge complications from pneumonia.
Speaker 3 (16:13):
He was eighty nine.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
And yes, we have a couple of guys now that
succeeded big time in college and have had some degree
of good success in the NFL. Jim Harbaugh has ping
pong back and forth. He had great success in the NFL,
going to the Super Bowl, great success in college football
at Michigan. Now he's back with the Chargers. Chargers are
a playoff team. Well, you've seen it happen, right, We've
seen now a couple of guys.
Speaker 3 (16:36):
Hey, I got it done.
Speaker 1 (16:37):
In college and now I'm getting it done in the pros.
But it's really hard. And you know, Pete Carroll did
it Aopete Carroll won a Super Bowl, won a National championship.
Those are the guys like John Robinson had a run
at USC where it was Rose Bowl every year and
it was Heisman Trophy winners. And then he goes to
the Rams and he gets the Rams of the playoffs
five years in a row.
Speaker 3 (16:58):
He's got Eric.
Speaker 1 (16:58):
Dickerson in his prime, goes to the NFC Championship game
in nineteen eighty five, which boy wrong year to go
to the NFC Championship game against another.
Speaker 3 (17:05):
Team in nineteen eighty five fair. But that's that's some
kind of run that he had.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
Because usually you get a guy successful in college, he
goes with the pros, it's harder he can't figure it out,
or a god that's successful that can't win in the pros.
Speaker 3 (17:18):
Hey, I go to college. That's my milieu. That worked
out for me.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
He's able to do it in college, then he's able
to jump to the NFL and do it, and that
really is something.
Speaker 3 (17:27):
Yeah, it's just very.
Speaker 4 (17:27):
Few, right, Tom Kauughlin winning consistently in college goes to
the pros. But we saw Spurry or we saw sab
and we saw some of those guy. I mean, Barry
Switzer gets the asterisk right, because.
Speaker 3 (17:39):
I don't think Abody. I don't think he did any
coaching that year. I don't know if he actually was.
Speaker 1 (17:42):
I think he stayed in Oklahoma and he just called
in stuff to his assistance.
Speaker 4 (17:48):
That's what people would have you believe, right, is that
he didn't really do a whole hell of a lot
that year. But all said, it is interesting that we
watch over time the number of coaches. Look at the
last few years, how many college coaches that had an
opportunity or seemingly had an opportunity to go, didn't right,
go back to farens and at Iowa. How many years
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was it, Hey, he's gonna go there now he's a
lifer Pat Fitzgerald before scandal, whether it was the Bears
or somebody else. No, he didn't go either to where
you realize, hey, it's pretty good here.
Speaker 3 (18:23):
And for Robinson.
Speaker 4 (18:24):
Yeah, and there's there's not a whole lot of lists
that come up, particularly related to LA sports coaching wise,
that don't end and his name doesn't end up on it.
It's like him Pete Carroll will grab a couple other
guys mixing there in but talking about layers success certainly
since the NFL came back as well.
Speaker 1 (18:40):
Yeah, you know, and I interviewed him. This is going
back about twenty years ago. I interviewed him, and it
was back when he was coming to UNLV, I believe
when he was coming back and it's come back to
you in LV. And I'm sitting across from in an
interview and he sits down and you kind of have
to sit close to the other persons on cameras on
camera interview and he and he leans forward and like
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he's like right up close to me, and I said,
I said, oh, he goes, I'm going to lean forward
if that's okay, So yeah, sure, I've never seen any
coach lean forward. But he was like, that's what makes
me comfortable. So I'm like, okay, So he leaned forward,
and I don't know if maybe I backed off my
questions because of it, or he might get upset and
just reach.
Speaker 3 (19:19):
Out to Bam. Oh it's the black eye. I got
what happened.
Speaker 4 (19:23):
Comment about some coaching decisions two minutes of a game,
but it ended with your ass on the ground in
a Jim Rome position.
Speaker 3 (19:31):
Most different. I mean, come on now, didn't like it?
Speaker 2 (19:34):
Man?
Speaker 3 (19:34):
Good luck?
Speaker 4 (19:35):
Okay, what was your initial thought like as he's leaning forward,
I'm like, because you start thinking, is it a hearing thing?
Speaker 3 (19:41):
Is it just an eye contact thing? Is it intimidation?
Speaker 1 (19:44):
I thought it was an intimidation thing, and it made
me want to lean forward, like okay, I want to
And then suddenly it looks like one of those posters
from a fight.
Speaker 3 (19:53):
You know, like our faces.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
Robinson comment of you, well, uh, it was, really, it was?
Speaker 3 (20:02):
It was.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
And then I finished the interview and I said to
a friend of mine, he goes, hey had the interview
with John Robinson.
Speaker 3 (20:07):
Did he lean forward? And I said, yeah he did.
Speaker 1 (20:09):
He goes, yeah, that's his thing, and I'm like, oh, okay,
all right, then he lean lean forward.
Speaker 3 (20:14):
I'm I got to look that up and see if
there's uh i'd be.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
The complete and total opposite. Well, yeah, we're ready for
the Yeah, I'm gona lay down. I'm just gonna lay
down and kind of close my eye. Why is it
the song lean back, lay back, gonna lay back close
my asked me a question. If I fall asleep, I
fall asleep, but wake me up. Just just kind of
shake me and wake me up and I'll be good.
Uh So I get absolute legend. John Robinson passing away
at the age of eighty nine in the NFL this weekend,
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this was the funeral weekend for the Jets.
Speaker 3 (20:43):
They were awful. They were terrible.
Speaker 1 (20:47):
The effort against the Cardinals is something I've seen for
the last forty years, right, I don't know that you
could use the word effort to it was no, it
was no another week it will look For forty years,
the Jets have been Hey, we're gonna tease you with
some kind of hope and then we're gonna not.
Speaker 3 (21:01):
Perform and we're going to show up with a less
than stellar effort. That kind of shows up dumb we
all are when it comes down to it. Do you
think the Jets are gonna do?
Speaker 4 (21:11):
But just in general, I mean, look, there's hope, there's faith,
there's all those things. It's like you have demanded, demonstrated
failure year after year, yet you get suckered into buying
a new hat, a sweatshirt, a jersey, and painting your
car green.
Speaker 1 (21:28):
I should really subscribe to the expect nothing. That way,
I'll never be disappointed, which is which I really subscribed
to that in the rest of my life. So I
should have subscribed to this. With the Jets, I expect nothing.
I won't be disappointed. But two things about just talk.
Speaker 3 (21:43):
I could have you at Frostburg.
Speaker 1 (21:44):
You were right, you were right last year when you
kept saying that you were right, I didn't listen.
Speaker 3 (21:48):
I should have. You were right.
Speaker 4 (21:50):
I told you when they handed the keys to that guy,
I was going off the rail.
Speaker 3 (21:53):
Two things. First, the guy's legs are like Linguini. First,
you mean the guy from ratitudey cheff Ling Guinie wasn't
the chef. And curious George. Oh, chef Pisketty.
Speaker 4 (22:07):
That's key Cheff Pisketty, yeatrolled by.
Speaker 1 (22:11):
Rat and Yoki was the h I think the chef
was Charky.
Speaker 3 (22:17):
I'm curious George, Uh Charky.
Speaker 1 (22:19):
No, No, it's chef Pisketti, Sketty Cheff piskett No.
Speaker 3 (22:24):
Yeah, but it was said. They said it pisket They said,
like a right, you think I'd say I say spaghetti pisthetic.
Speaker 1 (22:30):
I mean you said up on game as upon game
and game upon game a game.
Speaker 3 (22:36):
I just said him really fast, I said really fast
upon game.
Speaker 1 (22:38):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (22:39):
Yeah, Jerky's a female dog, the good friend of George.
Speaker 3 (22:43):
Okay, Charky's a dog.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
He is a character. And Hunley was the other friend. Yeah,
the doorman had George.
Speaker 3 (22:48):
How about.
Speaker 4 (22:51):
So here's the micro best impression he does. I got
him just sp with in America.
Speaker 1 (22:59):
And curious George, what you think of Arrett Rodgers. So
the first thing is this is that now I can
see how washed he is because he can't throw the
ball downfield. It was my biggest fear. Why I say,
going into the season, my biggest thing is that I
don't see the arm strength. I don't know that you
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can throw the ball down. Arm strength, it's the everything
cor and the like strength.
Speaker 3 (23:26):
To push.
Speaker 1 (23:27):
They didn't have one pass that traveled more than ten
yards in the air yesterday.
Speaker 3 (23:33):
And this is it.
Speaker 1 (23:33):
You got Garrett Wilson and DeVante Adams. You're not throwing
a bunch of jags. You throw to the Patriots receiving corps.
Speaker 3 (23:39):
You got two of the top in the NFL. I mean.
Speaker 1 (23:47):
Watching, they're ending people's seasons every week. The Patriots are
going to beat you.
Speaker 3 (23:51):
And you and the Panthers are getting guys fired.
Speaker 4 (23:54):
So I meos going look at the guys I got
fired this year.
Speaker 1 (23:58):
Uh bets. So you could I could tell now he
just doesn't have it. And I thought, okay, need some
time to come back and throw the ball and and
and work on his arm. But this is we're ten
weeks in and he can't throw the ball downfield. Everything's
got to be fast, everything's got to be quick. He
can't extend plays like he used to. He just can't
go downfield like luck like he had. And that's that's it.
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That's the ballgame for Aaron Rodgers. So that that was
my biggest fear, and that is absolutely true because yesterday
made no sense. But now the bigger thing, right, because
I'll tell you exactly how the rest of Aaron Rodgers
season and career is going to get his career his career.
First of all, this and this might you'll say this
and go, oh yeah, I completely agree with you. He's
not going to make it to the end of.
Speaker 4 (24:40):
The season realizing him and he gets the job.
Speaker 1 (24:44):
He's going to play the next few weeks and then
when things get really untenable, there will be some kind
of injury that keeps him out for the rest of
the year because he's realizing now what it means to
be the quarterback in New York. When boy, when things
go bad, boy they hate They didn't hate me this
much in Green Bay when I said I wanted out, Yeah,
this is what it is to play quarterback in New York. Congratulations.
Speaker 4 (25:06):
But at the end he was still playing well, right,
A couple of MVPs.
Speaker 3 (25:10):
Yeah, but I don't know.
Speaker 4 (25:11):
If but but he did all the retirement stuff whatever.
So it became personal with the Jets. He had a
couple of years where it was all about personality and
he was all for the heat. He'll take all the
smoke because it's just philosophical I'm smarter than you differences
as opposed to really not good on the field. So
now I have to read about it. I have to
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hear about it. All the blowhards on TV and radio
locally and nationally, especially those that feel betrayed because they
backed me, are now going to assail me at every moment,
and I can't hear it. I can't have it because
it's true. The other stuff I can argue is in
the dark.
Speaker 3 (25:49):
Well I found this, I'm gonna can't.
Speaker 1 (25:51):
I'm gonna cancel those McAfee appearances after a while. He's
going to he's going to sit out, and he's going
to try to sell the end of his career and
end it the best way he can.
Speaker 3 (26:04):
Case.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
We don't get to choose how we walk away, and
I think he sees that, Okay, I'm not the same
guy I was. So what's going to happen is I
bet you he'll have whatever great he feels is. This
could be my last great moment with the Jets. If
he wins a game and they get to like four
and eleven, whatever it was, this is my last game.
I throw for three touchdowns, we win a game, I
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hook up with Davante Adams and everything else. This is
my last game. I'm sitting out.
Speaker 3 (26:29):
I'm done.
Speaker 1 (26:29):
I'm not gonna go through a really bad last month
of getting pummeled and getting laughed at and the Jets
jetting right because they're just gonna continue to embarrass themselves.
I'm not gonna do that.
Speaker 4 (26:40):
Oh, I have the date for you, and then go
ahead December fifteenth at Jacksonville.
Speaker 1 (26:46):
Ooh, it maybe before that, yeah, but it may be
before that.
Speaker 3 (26:50):
But that that gives you.
Speaker 4 (26:51):
I mean, he could take Christmas and everything off after
that because then they host the Rams, then they're at Buffalo,
and then Miami comes to town.
Speaker 1 (27:00):
That's it, right, He's not gonna be around for those guys.
When's the date for their hookah? But he's going to
sit out and then the offseason, this is what's gonna happen.
He's going to see if there's a team, much like
Brady a couple of years ago, or if you want
to go back Brett Farv when he wanted out of
Green Bay. That understands I'm a little bit limited, but
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there's still the sliver the hope that I can get
one more year out. Maybe one year past my recovery
for Achilles, because I'm sure he will push that. Hey,
I wasn't feeling one hundred hundred percent this year. It
was still a bit of a slow recovery. But boy,
I feel great now I'm out of this recovery for
a year, and he's going to sniff around to see
if there's a team that can say, yes, come on
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in for one year. We have everything we need offensively,
and you're gonna be our guy again, like the Jets
did with Farv and like the Patriots, I like the
Bucks did with Brady. And if that's the case, then
he will sign and go there, and if not, he
will retire from the NFL.
Speaker 4 (28:01):
Yeah, there's only one reason, one reason that Rogers doesn't
belong in the same category that you're putting Farv and
Brady in this cinnaria. One reason's smile. He stakes was
still a four thousand. But at the end of last
year with the patridy, nobody was throwing.
Speaker 1 (28:22):
But Brady couldn't throw the ball near the end the
last couple of years. His arm strength wasn't there. They
still found it about timing. They rounded him. Oh, I'm
not saying it's going to succeed. I'm not saying this.
Speaker 3 (28:32):
I mean great, Jill's arm fell off for you, and he.
Speaker 1 (28:36):
Never wanted to be there. He wanted to get to
min He thought, I'll go to the Jets for a year,
then find my way to Minneoda. Nobody's buying into this clown.
Speaker 3 (28:44):
Nobody.
Speaker 1 (28:46):
But if that doesn't happen, then he will retire. If
if the NO team says hey, Aaron, you're our guy,
he will retire and that will be it. But he's
going to try to find the one. Let me try
to go out as back because I know that the
boy this is a mistake. Coming to the Jets was
awful because the Jets jet all the time. So let
me see if I can have one final game and
then I'll mysteriously be out and that's gonna end it
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for me. And if I can get one more year, great,
But if not, I am okay retiring my two cents.
Speaker 4 (29:12):
To close that off. Is Aaron Rodgers has to look
at the mirror and it's not about Jets jetting. It's
the team he orchestrated. Now, it's the team he built.
Speaker 1 (29:24):
Built on a house. He built a house on sand.
You built it when you tried to build the Jets.
That's your problem. That was your problem.
Speaker 3 (29:30):
You tried to rebuild the Jets.
Speaker 1 (29:32):
Now, let's find out what's trending from a guy who
could take over as a number one quarterback.
Speaker 3 (29:35):
In New York if he does step down. It's Steve
de Sager.
Speaker 5 (29:39):
Wow, that's gonna be a long line by the time
they get to be and frankly, anything would be an
improvement at this point.
Speaker 1 (29:46):
The saga in a quarterback, he's the tall guy with
the Dodgers World Series T shirt and glasses.
Speaker 3 (29:51):
I vote Gus the kicking Mule.
Speaker 5 (29:54):
Miami Dolphins, Thank you very much, Miami Dolphins. Y had
Don knots assistant coach. That would work too. Monday Night
football went to the Dolphins over the Rams at LA
twenty three point fifteen Rams no touchdowns in this one.
They almost went six for six on field goals. They
made a fifty two yarder in the third quarter, but
due to a false start that was wiped out from
five yards back. They missed a fifty seven yard attempt.
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Pukinakua nine receptions ninety eight yards in defeat. Dolphins star
wide receiver Tyreek Hill was active despite the wrist injury.
He had not practiced Friday and Saturday. He had a
one yard TD reception. Jason Sanders three for three on
field goals, including two fifty yarders. The Rams in the
first quarter eleven plays just nineteen yards. At one point,
the offense was one for ten on third down conversions. Here,
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Miami had lost six of seven, but they got a win.
Three and six. The Miami record Rams four and five.
Former Rams and USC head coach John Robinson passed away
at the age of eighty nine, and former noted Dame
coach Jerry Faust died at the age of eighty nine.
Wide receiver for the Seahawks, dk Metcalf is due to
re turned to practice on Wednesday. He's missed two games
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with a knee injury, and the NBA Cleveland is twelve
and oh after winning at Chicago one nineteen one thirteen
thirty six points for Donovan Mitchell. Oklahoma City's nine and
two after its home win against the Clippers one thirty
four to one twenty eight Shay Gilgus Alexander with forty
five points. Hawks guard Trey Young is out tomorrow with
achilles tendonitis. Miami's Jimmy Butler will miss another game tomorrow
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with a sprained ankle. Damian Lillard of Milwaukee is in
concussion protocol. College basketball wins in the top ten for
Alabama and Iowa State. The late NHL game to Carolina,
which is eleven and three. Gotta win at Vegas five
to two. Calgary at home beat LA three to one.
Dallas was up six to nothing in the first and
won seven to one at Pittsburgh.
Speaker 3 (31:44):
Back to you, Thank you, Steve Oll.
Speaker 1 (31:47):
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Speaker 3 (31:59):
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Speaker 2 (32:04):
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Speaker 1 (32:11):
Sports Radio The Jason Smith Show with My best friend
Mike Harmon. We'll get some big baseball news coming up
in a couple minutes. All the finalists have been announced. Yay,
Pp and Cy Young and Manager of the Year. Really,
but let me just say this, something a little bit
different about the other big train wreck team in the NFL.
Speaker 3 (32:30):
That's decided to say no, no Jets.
Speaker 1 (32:32):
You don't know on this news cycle, the Bears want
a part of this.
Speaker 3 (32:35):
Okay, yes, yes, yes.
Speaker 5 (32:38):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (32:39):
The last twenty four hours, the debate has been is
it Caleb Williams being this bad?
Speaker 3 (32:44):
Is it the coaching staff being that much? Yes?
Speaker 1 (32:46):
Okay, yes? What are you answering to both of them? Yes,
and you choose your own adventure. Both answers are yes.
Speaker 3 (32:54):
Yeah. I mean, look Caleb, the fork in the road,
take it, take it.
Speaker 1 (32:58):
I mean, look the the the body count of the Patriots.
Every time we win a game, everything is the worst
lots of the year. If I'm girod meyo, go stop
treating us like that. We've won a couple of games.
But coming off of yesterday, another abysmal effort by the
Bears offensively, and I think we're asking the wrong question
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because it doesn't matter whose fault it is, because at
the end of this year, Ibra Flus is getting fired
and it's a brand new coaching staff coming in to
try to make it work with Caleb Williams. But this
was the mistake The Bears had Iberfluss defensive coordinator, and
he wasn't great the first two years.
Speaker 3 (33:38):
Was he a little bit better last year? Yeah, a
little bit better last year.
Speaker 1 (33:43):
When it was off and after it was over, Hey,
we won games. But this is a really big decision
to say, we're going to entrust you with bringing along
a number one overall pick and a franchise quarterback and
maybe the best guy coming in in the last five years.
That's a lot to say. Yeah, the guy maybe showed
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he could do it, maybe a little bit. No, No,
this is where you have to say, sorry, new coaching
staff coming in, offensive head coach, offensive minded philosophy, who's
the quarterback we need?
Speaker 3 (34:17):
Can you make it work?
Speaker 1 (34:17):
Yes? And that's the marriage. It's not an arrangement because
the arranged marriages don't work. So you had an arranged
marriage with eber Flus and Caleb Williams, and now next
year's going to be an arranged marriage with whoever comes
in that thinks, Okay, this is my system. What I
will try to get out of Caleb Williams, what I
can get out of him. The guy has regress so
badly that now I think maybe his ceiling is Trevor
Lawrence right, because what do we see Doug Peterson comes
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in after the failure with urban Meyer, and all the
Trevor Lawrence has been able to turn into has been
a league average quarterback. So that's what you're looking at
for the ceiling of Caleb Williams right now. Can he
even be a league average quarterback because he is not flashed.
That's a really big deal and that's a bad decision
to say we're okay with rolling the dice with Eberflus.
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Now you need an offensive minded head coach to come
in when you're draft when you have a quarterback that
you drafted number one overall and you need him to
be a superstar. That's how it works in the NFL.
There's fifteen or twenty examples off the top of my head.
How when you bring in a coach to coach a
young quarterback. It doesn't work. When you bring in a
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head coach when you have a young quarterback, go to
a coach that's already been there, that could be on
his way out, it doesn't work. New direction of a
franchise means everything is new when you're picking number one overall.
Yes it was a result of a trade, but it's
not like the Bears have been great the last couple
of years. This should have been a complete and total reset,
because if you do that, now this year is spent. Okay,
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this is my system, this is what can work, this
is what doesn't work. This is what we have to
fix for next year. Whereas instead, now you've postponed the
future because whoever comes in next year is okay. I
need next year to figure out what works and what
doesn't and then we move on from there. So that's
the big epic failed by the Bears. It doesn't matter
whose fault it is. Ibra Flus has gone the entire offensive,
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All the coaches are gone, something new next year. They
could have stopped this if they made a change when
they knew we got the number one pick we're taking
Caleb Williams did we had to make a change.
Speaker 3 (36:16):
That's right.
Speaker 4 (36:17):
To explain to you, your your organization, your history, you
are who your history is right and as so long
as the McCaskey and Hallis family is in charge, and
remember Virginia is still the boss. Even if George is
out there taking selfies with everybody, is that they're not
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gonna throw money away. So if there's a year left
on a deal. Guess what guy's coaching and right now
there's a lot of questioning as to the reports of
is he still under contract for two more years after this?
Is this really where we're going? Because we saw it
with the last couple of quarterbacks. It's the same damn thing, like,
all right, here's the coach, all right, he's done. Now
now we've got a second in your quarterback and let's
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change direction. And you go and you spend money all
over the place on the accessories, but you didn't figure
out the guts. Right, this is going to buying a
bunch of paintings on the wall, but you haven't refinished
the floors. There's a bunch of divots and holes. Maybe
there's a little area rug that the dog did his
stuff with that you've got problems. And that's the Bears
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with their offensive line. Kayleb Williams thirty eight sacks at
this point. Now, I'd love to sit down with a
couple of X offens and linemen, couple of quarterbacks and
just say, all right, let's grade him. How many of
the thirty eight are the offensive lines fault? How many
of them are klebs? Because I think the answers might
surprise you at times, but like he's making bad decisions,
he's not seeing open receivers. You brought in all this
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talent you brought in Shane Waldron, like I saw getting
another round today. The Jackson Smith and Jigma thing we
talked about months ago of hey, good luck when he
said that with Shane Waldron getting a job with the Bears,
he said as nicely and as he could, Oh is
this live that kind of thing?
Speaker 3 (38:06):
So, and that's exactly what you've seen. There's no creativity,
there's no ingenuity.
Speaker 4 (38:10):
There's no making plays easy for him, and he can't
get out of his same bad habits that he had
in college. You got to coach this out, and a
defensive coordinator's not coaching that out of him.
Speaker 3 (38:20):
Right.
Speaker 4 (38:20):
Eberflus might be a good DC, that's where his line
is as a head coach. He's clearly out of his depth,
out of his element.
Speaker 3 (38:29):
And whoever gave.
Speaker 4 (38:30):
A media training, everybody should get a refund if they've
charged a student as a consultant, whatever your frauds, because
every week this guy goes out and embarrasses himself and
sticks his foot in his mouth with obvious lies.
Speaker 3 (38:44):
Like you're not even good at lying. You look good.
Speaker 4 (38:47):
Because your beard, your hair or whenever we saw it,
hard knocks, but nobody's believing you, and you've now got
a lot. Call the line of players wanting to get
in front of a micfield.
Speaker 3 (38:56):
No confidence, no confidence, I mean they're not.
Speaker 1 (38:58):
Michael Parsons him, Hey, I that's that's a question above
my pay grade.
Speaker 3 (39:02):
No, no, I didn't look.
Speaker 4 (39:03):
And then he circled back in the call the sack
and ran him over again. But yeah, the bear's very
much sir, Hey, we need something else. So year two
curiosity who wants in thinking they can fix him? Because
everybody wants to be the genius? Sure, look it's a
one of only thirty two jobs.
Speaker 1 (39:20):
Exit out about a Fresca exit swollen down the Jason
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Speaker 3 (39:37):
How about that?
Speaker 4 (39:38):
There we go?
Speaker 1 (39:38):
That'd be the first one ever. My buddy Ben Mallins
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