November 12, 2024 • 49 mins
It's Fox Sports Radio's official fantasy football podcast! Dan Beyer and Mike Harmon open this edition of the show with their immediate thoughts and takeaways from a Monday Night Football matchup that saw the Dolphins take down the Rams in LA. Later, the guys get into the rest of the week's matchups, going through the studs and duds from each, and hitting on some of the broader storylines coming out as well... Where do the Bears go from here? Did McCaffrey's return inspire enough confidence in a 49ers season turnaround? Plus, with some intriguing options out there, Mike shares his hot waiver wire adds of the week!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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The guys help you make those hard decisions. And now
let's catch your flex. Ond here's Dan Bayer and Mike Harmon.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
Well, what a mess. Week ten was. Maybe not as
messed up as my voice, Mike Harmen, but I am back.
Thank you guys for holding down the fort when I
was in Oklahoma and then basically silenced by this bug
that's been dealing with me for the last week or two.
That bug seemed to infect the NFL in Week ten
because there was a whole lot of hot garbage.
Speaker 4 (00:51):
Yeah, no scoring whatsoever. Everybody needs a nice big bowl
chicken soup, some vic vabo rub app liberally and then
you wrap and saran rap. At least that was my
mom's thing back in the day.
Speaker 5 (01:06):
I like that you said it's dealing with you, though, Dan,
not the other way around.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
Charge Here, I'll tell you what. There were a lot
of remedies. Everybody's got their own, and some of them,
you know, worked, others didn't. It's you know, is it hot,
is it cold? How do you deal with it? Because
a lot of times when you lose your voice, people
think like, oh, you got to do hot. But I've
had many a doctor tell me you need cold, you
need anti inflammatories so the vocal cords aren't strained. And
(01:38):
so that's what i'd been doing for a while. Mary Mack,
our teammate at Fox Sports Radio, gave me some throat coat. Again.
I would change the name, but that's just.
Speaker 4 (01:47):
And it's one of my favorite. I've got a big
bucket of it.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
Yeah. Yeah, it helped on Sunday and I hope it
like propelled me to Monday. But here we are, But
I am, I am, you know, me and Vick's but
we've got we've got Mike. You know, there was the
old days where you could get vics from nineteen seventy
two and still use it at nineteen eighty nine, it
was it was still good and you weren't running out
of it. Now they have it like on the roll on,
(02:14):
you know, with like sticks, like it's almost like a lipstick.
Yet oh, that was the thing where the logo he
faded over time.
Speaker 4 (02:23):
Yeah, he like, how old is this? No idea? But
there's still a third of a tub left, let's go.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
It was that bad, you know, I kid you not.
Some of these things of VIX were like truly like
seventeen years old. But hey, they stood the test of
time and they worked. It's amazing that you still had
some left over no matter how sick you were.
Speaker 5 (02:44):
Well, I wonder if we still have some some tubs
of vic from nineteen seventy two that would still be
good today.
Speaker 4 (02:50):
And guaranteed I'm going to find someone eating just on principle,
because that was the best.
Speaker 3 (02:55):
Like that's when I had a sense of smell.
Speaker 4 (02:57):
I lost mine before COVID some illness and whatever, infection whatever,
But like back then, that was that was the thing
that made you know you were alive in the winter. Yeah,
and that Josh it punched you in the face.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
Used VIX. He put some of my nose as well,
right underneath you know, when you're stuffed up. Yeah, a
lot of the games could have used VIS. On Sunday
it was like we get this this dandy Bengals Ravens game,
and then it's just a complete letdown, even up until
Monday Night. We always talk about the Monday Night or
on this podcast and Dolphins Rams. I don't know if
(03:32):
Karen Williams is starting to become a thing with the
non touchdowns. But the third straight game that he didn't
score a rushing touchdown, in the second straight game he
didn't score a touchdown period. But Rams just had a
tough going of it against the Dolphins defense on Monday Night.
Speaker 4 (03:47):
Rough run for the Rams, stafford an interception. Six straight
games for him, the longest of his career. He goes
for two hundred ninety three yards. He sacked four times,
misses a couple of wide open receivers. You you also have
a couple drop passes that were huge. Pukadakua ends up with,
you know, empty calories for fantasy purposes.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
You take them.
Speaker 4 (04:08):
However, they come right, nine catches, ninety eight yards, Like,
what a great day. You only said that if you
didn't watch the game, sure, right, because it was awful
all the way through. Cooper Cup ends up with a
seven catch, eighty yard day. Great, fantastic, But again, if
you watched it, it was painful. The fact that DeMarcus
Robinson was out of the box score until the final
(04:30):
two minutes. Who goes to the Dolphins. Dolphins defensive squad
which had been giving up about twenty four game, but
today they rally up right. Eight Chan does nothing on
the ground, just thirty seven yards and his twelve carries,
and you basically have a wash between the two rushing.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
Efforts and eight Chan owners.
Speaker 4 (04:52):
And I know because well I was one until Guillotine
died in one of them that I had is the
you know, you saw the touchdown pass to Tyreek Hill
and you started cursing because like, even if you only
had the thirty yards rushing or thirty seven yards rushing
and what fifteen did have five receptions, So he helped
you there barely falling forward, but you know, touchdown there
(05:15):
makes that a lot more palatable game.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
Yeah, absolutely, Instead.
Speaker 4 (05:19):
It's all right, Yeah, he was good enough as a
flex play instead of the top five that you know
he was projected to be against this rams D so
on both sides, Yeah, just tough sledding and for Kyron
Williams behind the shuffled offensive line and the inefficiencies that
are showing with Stafford, Yeah, it's going to be a
tough sled the back half of the season.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
Well, what do you think about to us since his return,
because the Dolphins offense hasn't been what we had saw
had seen in the previous couple of seasons now that
he's been back. I mean, he can't complain from what
they did offensively Monday night because they won the football game.
But when you look at the numbers, you see too,
his numbers, you're like, okay, all right, yeah, you know,
(06:00):
two hundred yards that's threw a touchdown pass. Maybe not
what you expected. And then you look at everybody else
since your point about eight chan you Tyreek Hills touchdowns
saved his awful night. Jayalen Waddell had a nice couple
of catches here. He moster was nowhere to be found.
Just really funky with the Miami Dolphins right now.
Speaker 4 (06:18):
Yeah, pretty odd, right, I mean he finish his quarterback
twenty two for the week. Stafford's right there with him.
But you look at the last couple of weeks because
even against the in the games the narrow losses to
Buffalo into Arizona where they scored twenty seven points, still
pedestrian numbers for yes, right, two thirty four and a
touchdown in the twenty eight twenty seven lost Arizona two
(06:39):
thirty one did have two touchdowns. Okay, solid against the Bills,
but not world beating. Okay, that's nice, nice mid line
kind of stuff. And then this week two oh seven,
one and one, and look if he throws an interception,
I don't want you going back trying to tackle anybody
or getting the way I mean, you got unbelievable, you know.
(07:01):
I like the I don't care, but he's he's man.
Speaker 5 (07:05):
I also was listening to his post game afterwards, and
he was kind of like joking about you know, he
laughed about it a little bit, and I don't know
he only laughed because this isn't a joke, you know,
like this is your your life.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
I I I don't care anymore. And I mean that
in a way of if he's down with it, yeah.
Speaker 4 (07:23):
If he's on the field, yeah right, I'm one hundred
percent life. I'm just in the h I was just
thinking from the coaching I need this guy another seven
weeks from your your standpoint, Dan, I'm one hundred percent
in agreement.
Speaker 5 (07:35):
Right.
Speaker 4 (07:36):
It's like if you're good or bad, Like, I don't
care if you got a hurt ankle, the quad's messed up,
shoulder hurts. Whatever, if you go between the white lines,
we evaluate you the same. You don't get a bunch
of well butts. You either win or you lose. You
perform or you don't.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
You know the seat to uh And I was just
reading some stats that since he returned, he had the
highest success rates on pass is for first downs than
anybody else in the in the NFL. And that's all
fine and dandy, but you're not seeing the seventy yarders
to Tyreek Hill. You're not seeing those anymore. And maybe
the way that you now defend the Dolphins and try
(08:13):
to try to avoid those. But if that's the case
and this is what defenses are giving Miami, then you
could expect a lot more of this because it had to.
His numbers have been consistent. Tyreek Hill's numbers have not
been I mean, when you go from four catches for
eighty yards to three to sixteen, that's quite the gap,
but it's still four catches are three catches, you know,
(08:35):
so there's there's not as much variation with the Dolphins.
And I'm just wondering now, like, are you capped? I wouldn't.
I can't trust Raheem most anymore. I think people wanted
to when he in the second half of this season.
I just think that the Dolphins now are just kind
of pedestrian when it comes to fantasy football.
Speaker 4 (08:51):
Yeah, I can't trust any of them, no at all.
I mean, eight Chan is still going to be a
back end two. Tyreek Hill is going to be a
mid to back two. Like like you said, three for sixteen.
Saves his day with the one yard touchdown catch, but
otherwise he's being disappeared. That's his first touchdown since Week one. Yeah,
go all the way back and that was the eighty
(09:12):
yard after you know, the the fumble right, the punch out,
fumble recovery and touch back and that's it.
Speaker 3 (09:21):
Like he's been a giant gap in between.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
How about I pose this and you could jump into
because I think we're all gonna be on the same page.
What three headed monster would you rather go forward with? Kyen,
Puka and cup or eighth Chan, Wattle and Tyreek.
Speaker 4 (09:39):
I'm gonna grit my teeth, but I'll still I'll take
the Rams. My answer would secret options see find me
another trio, but I'll take the Rams even with the inefficiencies.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
Going right now, I down with the Rams.
Speaker 4 (09:53):
Yea Rams, You're at least getting the completions, right, sure,
especially when we talk about the fact that the vast
majority of lee are now at least half PPR, if
not full, So I know I'm at least getting Stafford
completing the ball. Whether I'm getting five yards of catch
doesn't matter, because each one of those points counts.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
Yeah, And my point too is how often when the
Dolphins are playing a game that you'd rather have the
other team's offensive weapons. Yeah, but I think that's where
we are now with the Miami Dolphins and to his
return and a tyment right now in what is a
jacked up AFC, completely jacked up heading into this weekend,
and I said this on my Sunday show, there were
(10:35):
six teams entering the weekend with two losses. Ian's Jets
weren't even one of those teams. Like, it was so
bad for the AFC because you had the Jaguars, you
had the Patriots, you had the Raiders, you had the Browns.
They were on by six teams had entered the weekend
with a loss, and it allowed Ian's crappy Jets to
(10:57):
still be considered in the playoff picture because heck, well
they only had they had three wins. At least it
put them tenth, you know, and that excuse me, Yeah,
it was in the tenth spot, so you know. So
it's just it's crazy, like how bad that conference actually
is because we talk about, you know, the good teams
and whatnot. The Dolphins, now with their third win, as
(11:18):
crazy as it is, could be difficult, but they're not
completely out of it just yet. Even though having three
wins through ten weeks of the season is not a
recipe for success.
Speaker 4 (11:28):
In the playoffs, would you like me to give you
the even crazier part going forward as much as we're
looking at the numbers and and look, the show is now, right,
the podcast is now. Thank you all for listening and
tuning in and being part of our extended family. The
Dolphins have the third weakest remaining schedule in all the NFL.
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Tampa at three twenty eight. The last opponent they have
that is on the plus side as the Chargers. Then
you have Indianapolis. They've got two games on the plus side,
the Lions and the Broncos. Miami three games over there,
Green Bay, Houston, San Francisco. None of those teams what
we were expecting, right, Jordan loves turning the ball over
(12:09):
a ton. Houston has a lot of problems that were
masked up early, not anymore. We'll see what happens with
the receiving corps what have you. But that offensive line
is terrible and Stroud looks a little bit gun shy
in terms of taking his shots. And then San Francisco
they get McCaffrey back. That wasn't a pretty win on
Sunday to win, but it wasn't pretty on the other side.
(12:30):
They've got the Raiders, they've got the Browns, they've got
the Patriots and Ian they got you twice winning percentage
for the remaining teams for the Dolphins three ninety five.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
Wow. Well, I should say I stumbled upon it. But
when the Broncos lost to the Chiefs on Sunday, I
just was like, Oh, that's gonna come back to bite Denver.
Then I just looked at the rest of the AFC
and I'm like, yeah, probably not, you know what I mean,
Like realistically, like you're battling the Colts right now, who
are a mess themselves. The Bengals obviously are a threat
(13:07):
but you know when you're looking for that final wild card. Yeah,
it's not a it's not a battle Royale that you
would have hoped that it would have been. Instead, it's
just a bunch of crap in the AFC, and whoever's
crap floats towards the end actually may have a shot
at making them mostly done.
Speaker 4 (13:23):
Oh man, boy and c As we head into week eleven,
what do you got ian No.
Speaker 5 (13:28):
I'm just gonna say, like, because of yeah, what you
were saying, there probably is going to be a nine
to eight team that sneaks in, which is just kind
of weird to think about.
Speaker 4 (13:34):
Right, Yeah, but yeah, I mean you go through Indianapolis,
like you said, is got the the second easiest schedule
remaining Miami there, uh, and then you drift up a
little bit. Denver teams they have remaining have a nice
even five hundred record. Cincinnati's right there with them at
five hundred. You've got but they've got the Steelers twice,
(13:55):
They've got the Chargers, and they've got the Broncos on
the other side. To see common opponents on the negative
side for Cincinnati and Denver, they both play the Browns.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
Okay, well, I'll say this when Ian said, like nine
and eight, you know, can get you in the playoffs,
that isn't too surprising. What's surprising is that there is
a playoff picture right now where you don't have five teams. Remember,
Mike get a couple a couple of years ago, we
laughed because the NFC playoff picture had fourteen teams in it. Yeah,
(14:30):
you know, like there are only like two teams, teams.
Speaker 3 (14:32):
That were off the grid.
Speaker 1 (14:34):
Yeah. Yeah, And that's what happens when you expand the
playoffs to seven teams. Everybody is still in the playoff picture.
But the AFC right now is so bad at the
bottom that I don't know how you could have any
more than ten right now.
Speaker 4 (14:46):
It's like the Bills running away and hiding in the East. Yeah,
three three win teams behind them. Yes, a little bit
of cannibalism there in the North with the Steelers and Ravens.
They'll play this week, which will be on Houston. The
imperfect six and four Indianapolis had their chance and went
and got throttled by Buffalo Tennessee and Jacksonville deplorable. And
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then you've got the Chiefs at nine and zero, Chargers
six and three, the Broncos at five and five, and
then the hapless Raiders who should were Sanders keeps thanking
every time they lose. So all that to say, it
goes back. We've talked about it for years on this podcast.
Ian's new to this one with us Dan Parody's bad. Sure,
(15:32):
the striving for parity is bad because this is what
we get.
Speaker 1 (15:38):
The Bills on the tiebreaker over the Dolphins because of
the season sweep, and if they beat the Jets in Buffalo,
they'll have that tiebreaker and they likely will then have
a five game lead when there's only seven games remaining now,
you know in the National Football League regular season, at
least for Buffalo and the Jets, you know, for that situation.
(16:00):
I mean, you know, this is this thing could be
over next week. Yeah, I mean it's yeah, it's it's
pretty absurd.
Speaker 4 (16:06):
All right, let's go into the backups. Who's Buffalo running
out there? My prediction of Josh Allen, his MVP goes
to hell because he may be's sitting down like he's
Peyton Manning back to to day.
Speaker 3 (16:17):
He does the Queen's Wave and walks off.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
We lost one week of preseason football and got four
more of it. On the back half, thanks a lot.
Roger Goodell all right, he's like, Huhirk, I'm dan Byer,
Ian Roddy's our executive producer. Hit Mike up at Swollen Dome.
Can find me at dan Byer on Fox and get
Ian at Ian Roddy Underscore. All right, we're gonna give
our report cards. We've got our waiver wire that's coming
up next, but we'll also dive into what happened this
(16:42):
past week and what we did say was kind of
a crappy Week ten. Christian McCaffrey's returning so much more.
That's next here on I want your flex welcome back.
I am dan Byer. That's Mike Carmen. Ian Roddy's our
executive producer. My Seahawks were off in week ten, and
I'm I think I had the best week amongst US
(17:02):
three because with that happened, with what happened to Mike's
Bears against New England and Ian's Jets against the Cardinals.
Can't help but laugh, Yeah, rough week. At least the
Seahawks didn't play. That's a little bit easier for me
than what you guys had to deal with.
Speaker 3 (17:18):
Ian. I'll let you go first, I got to compose myself.
Speaker 5 (17:21):
Yeah, I mean I also have to compose myself as well.
I'm still I'm still upset with the Jets. But if
the season wasn't already over, it's it's it's over now.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
Yeah, I don't know at what point on the Jets
side of things, like why people continue to have hope.
Speaker 5 (17:36):
I look, anyone who talked to me this week leading
up knew that I was saying I could easily see
them losing this game, and in fact I expected them
to lose this game. Did I expect them to look
that bad? No, But this is just it was so
on brand for them to get everyone's hopes up last
week with the win over Houston. Looked pretty good in
the second half, like you might have figured something out,
(17:57):
and then they just come out so flat from the
beginning of the game against Arizona. It's just it's so
on brand. And now, just as a jetsman, I know
they're going to win against Indy next week, Like I'm
going to put money on that game personally, because this
is what they do. They're going to win when it's
too late. Sure, that's what they do every time.
Speaker 1 (18:16):
Well, you know, the Texans were obviously shorthanded at wide
receiver and Mike mentioned earlier some of their struggles that
they've been experiencing. But it was also a home game
on a short week. You get a lot of momentum
with that, and there's an advantage to doing that, and
I think people bought in and believed that, all right,
that was the turnaround. And also people just for some
(18:37):
reason don't believe that the Arizona Cardinals are any good
and it is a big faux paws on their part
to think that. I mean, they are truly a team.
Trey Benson taking up his own role, you know, the
Cardinals are a good squad. It was just funny for
me to people from people believing in the Jets, thinking like,
all right, this is going to be the week when
(18:58):
the Jets are who they are. Nothing that's going to change.
Aaron Rodgers is who he is and that's who they are,
and their coaching staff isn't good enough to change anything.
In Arizona, sitting there right now atop that NFC West
just you know, having a good old time.
Speaker 3 (19:12):
Right And we talked about the Rams.
Speaker 4 (19:13):
They had an opportunity to make some noise and at
least keep pace, they lose to the Dolphins, your Seahawks
on the by watching it all transpire. But you know,
we don't do a lot of game prediction, right, that's
become a huge thing in our.
Speaker 3 (19:29):
Whatever.
Speaker 4 (19:30):
Everybody's going to do their picks against the spread, whatever.
Jason and I do a couple on Friday and it's
usually all right, one or two upsets and leave it
at that. And I picked both the Cardinals and the Patriots,
and he tried to keep me from the Patriots, saying, no,
you're just mad as a Bears fan. I'm like, no,
I'm being real, Like, there are a lot of problems
(19:52):
with this team. This is not emotional. I didn't think
they were that great coming in. I thought it would
look a little prettier, but yeah, you know, the guts
of it were still bad. The offensive line, like you
could go and grab all the wide receivers you want,
you can't protect a quarterback. He's up to thirty eight
sacks taken on the year after this debacle.
Speaker 5 (20:12):
That video that's going viral of the Patriots lineman helping
him up after the sack.
Speaker 3 (20:17):
That's not agreatable. No, that's just it.
Speaker 4 (20:19):
Right, Your alignment are nowhere to be found. This guy
feels pity on him because you're writhing around on the
ground in pain because you've been hit once again. We
get down into the final minutes of the game, just
like last week, it's a lost cause you're not moving
the football. He's getting his ass kicked and he's still
in the game. And I get it. It's nineteen to three,
like it's the NFL. It's only a two possession games
(20:41):
like No, it might as well have been.
Speaker 3 (20:43):
A forty point lead.
Speaker 4 (20:44):
The way that game played out, just an absolute disaster,
abject failure. Williams sixteen of thirty for one hundred and
twenty yards. Again, the nine sacks on the day, missing
wide open receivers, and like, I'd be curious, I'd love
to pay a couple of alignment, a couple of quarterbacks
to just sit with me for an hour and let's
go through his thirty eight sacks and you decide which
(21:06):
column they go on and see if we can come
to some consensus. Because it's easy to blame the lineman.
And the line line is bad, right, we saw that
even you know, but even with the shuffling this week.
Because I don't I don't know how much of this
got mentioned. They were down several starters again, more shuffling,
but you were already faulty before that. And now your
(21:29):
game plan is still We're going to drop back and
pass against the team that is giving up ample yardage
every game on the ground, Like we talked about it,
and part of the breakdown, and we'll get to the
report card was like teams are running all over them
for fantasy purposes. They were a bottom five defense. Yet
you Roshawn Johnson sees the ball once right, You're you're
(21:53):
not going and barreling in to try to get the
four yards on first down to make it easy setups
for second and six or second and five or whatever.
Like just flawed all around you. You watched Waldron for years,
and you know, you bring back Eberflus. It's a whole
other cluster the way the organization is run. But for
(22:14):
Caleb Williams, now it becomes the all right, He's the
latest in a long line of NFL quarterbacks these last
couple of years that gets buried based on some bad
coaching decisions and the development of some bad habits that
they then can't break.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
Yeah, you know, and and and Waldron was available because
there was a coaching change, not that he was pried away.
And you know, we talked a lot about the Jackson
Smith and Jigbit comments as well. Bring that up, but
you know a lot of times they even't sought. This
past week of just a refresher of the Seahawks fans
(22:47):
when they found the news that, you know, the Bears
were going to hire Waldron, and nobody was nobody was
really you know, nobody was really.
Speaker 4 (22:54):
Mad Bears fans when the Raiders hired Getsy. It's like, hey,
good luck with that. Yeah, fine, they took Jackson Smith
and jig quote basically, yeah, good luck.
Speaker 1 (23:05):
DJ Moore has been DJ less. Yeah, you know for
the last month.
Speaker 3 (23:10):
Three catches twenty four yards in this.
Speaker 1 (23:11):
One, yes, which isn't too far off from what he's
done the previous three games. Four catches thirty three yards,
two catches twenty seven yards, four catches twenty yards. I
do think there was something on the route that he
did take off. You know, it was an awful look.
I do think something did happen there. But when everything
else is going on around him, sometimes you don't get
(23:33):
that leeway. You don't get that uh that that that
moment of grace, if you will. So it was uh
And then him and Caleb Williams bumping shoulders. I know
I wasn't here last week, but after the Arizona gam
like there, you know, Williams prying himself off the field again,
slowly walking off, and he and Dj Moore like they're
in you know, middle school hallways and their two rivals
(23:56):
and they bumped shoulders and nobody moves and they just
continue to walk in opposite directions.
Speaker 3 (24:00):
Just yeah, tough, tough look silliness.
Speaker 4 (24:03):
At this point, for Dj Moore, the one thing he can,
you know, rest quietly on is the giant mountain of
money that the Bears gave him this offseason, as chronicled
so beautifully in the Hard Knocks edition of the Bears,
one of the top storylines in what was otherwise a
nice bedtime story because corg as hell. But no cursing, no,
(24:24):
no firings, no anything, all positivity until it's not. Patriots
didn't have to do anything grandiose. I do, like Drake may,
I think the kid can play. It's just a function
of all right, bringing in some more talent around him
and developing their Ramandre Stevenson always a solid running back
when he doesn't drop it. I know that's a big caveat,
(24:47):
but again, a guy, if you give him twenty carries,
he takes care of business. Not world beating, but steady
as they go. Not much to write home about from
a receiving standpoint, you know, from the Patriots side. But yeah,
for Chicago it's it's pretty much in the tank. Like
we were talking about with the Rams, or I should say,
with the Dolphins. How much do you trust any of
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these guys.
Speaker 3 (25:08):
At this point?
Speaker 1 (25:09):
I don't.
Speaker 3 (25:10):
Right Switch still going to be a starter as a
number two.
Speaker 4 (25:14):
That's gonna be a big list though, because we're starting
to decide we really hate, you know, I love the Drake.
I hate the Drake, not Drake May in this case,
just the old Seinfeld reference. I don't want anything to
do with the Chicago players because once again, cole Comet's
also an afterthought.
Speaker 3 (25:29):
Sure after a couple of.
Speaker 4 (25:31):
Monster games, like all right, they got it, they got
their connection.
Speaker 3 (25:34):
Two catches, thirteen yards.
Speaker 1 (25:37):
Christian McCaffrey had six catches for sixty eight yards in
his forty nine Ers debut, to go along with thirteen
carries and thirty nine yards. Is this a thumbs up?
Is this a thumbs down? Or is it maybe right
hand thumbs down, left hand thumbs up considering the rushing
wasn't too good and the receiving was no, I don't
want to say exceptional, but pretty good.
Speaker 4 (25:59):
I'll take one hundred plus total yards and and nineteen
touches in my return to the field.
Speaker 3 (26:05):
Right.
Speaker 4 (26:05):
We talked about it last week, Dan while you were
out of Hey, if he's going to be active, I
don't know what I'm getting, but they're not going to
do it for giggles.
Speaker 3 (26:15):
Yeah, right.
Speaker 4 (26:16):
I mean, especially go back to when that diagnosis came
down and we were all going to our online medical
the sources to try to figure out what the hell
they were talking about with his legs as to how
dire it was, right, because all the internet doctors are
like those things are going to pop at any moments,
like well, they're gonna find out, and if they do,
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he's going to have the maximum number of touches his
body can withstand when he returns to the field. And
you know, while it wasn't world beating again, you get
you get a pretty good PPR day out of Himah
six catches.
Speaker 1 (26:50):
The one good thing with the forty nine ers, which
I again they Tampa made a nice comeback at the
end and Moody missed a bunch of kicks. I stated,
no more excuses. I want to see it. Fantasy wise,
everybody was still getting theirs, Juwan Jennings, Ricky Pierce, all
new names instead of what we would get with say
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Brandon Aiyuk being in the mix. But CMC got his Deebo,
Samuel got a few carries, got a few catches, George
Kittle cut a touchdown. Nothing dropped off. Despite the problems
that San Francisco or the adversity San Francisco has faced
so far in the first part of the year, maybe
you know there is continued more value with Juwan Jennings,
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who had a team high eleven targets in that game.
Speaker 4 (27:38):
Yeah, three point fifty three for prety contract year, all
of those things. So we hang a star on that
as we go deeper in. He's got your Seahawks next
at home that came on Fox, then at Green Bay,
at Buffalo, and then the back half of the schedule.
I mean, look, they don't have any They've got a
pretty tough road. As you go through in the Bears
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whatever rams at home at Miami home against Detroit, and
then on the road at Arizona, which could be the
battle for the division at that point.
Speaker 1 (28:13):
Well, well, the Seahawks are not happy with their linebackers
and they continue to make changes after change after change.
We'll see how those linebackers respond to CMC crew coming
up here in week eleven. Any other standouts from what
we had in week ten? There was there was one
thing that that I wanted to point out. I don't
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know if it's as as big of a deal as
is maybe the other scenarios that that have played out,
But what about the Denver backfield? Mike Barry gums one, Okay,
all right, hey, you know what perfect we could? We could?
We can?
Speaker 3 (28:49):
We can leave want to it ahead?
Speaker 1 (28:52):
Yeah, well we'll tease it. We'll tease it ahead, Michael,
breakdown the Broncos backfield. Plus, we'll do our report cards,
see how we even did, Ian did and I even
set my picks into the guys, and I'll grade myself
for what was a again below average week of football action,
especially considering what the Thursday night gave us. Hopefully we
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were better than below average on our picks. We'll find
out next here and I want your flex, all right,
wrapping things up here on I want your flex. Get
Mike at Swollen Dome, find me dan Byer at dan
Byer on Fox, and you can get Ian Roddy at
Ian Roddy Underscore. So I teased the Broncos backfield, and
in fact, Mike, I thought this was going to be
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the week the Chiefs were going to get their first loss.
I had talked about it where if I had to
pick a game, I thought it would probably be a
divisional game Broncos or Raiders. And I really like Denver
And what do you know, oh so close, but you
know what they say and only in horseshoes and hand grenades.
But there is a takeaway from what Denver did against
Kansas City, and that may be a changing of the
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guard in the backfield.
Speaker 4 (29:56):
Well, what we've seen, we know mcglothin. At this point,
we know Javonte Williams, Austin estime gets his opportunity. Fourteen
carries fifty three yards nearer, fifty percent snapshare as time,
it's it's time, time for a change, nicely done. I
like that.
Speaker 1 (30:17):
Good time This time man.
Speaker 3 (30:22):
Time has come today.
Speaker 4 (30:23):
So yeah, I mean opportunity here second half of the season,
Sean Payton trying to figure out where he can get
a jump start. And this was a guy we talked
about going back to the preseason, Dan thinking thinking he'd
have an opportunity given you know, Williams has had his
moments but hasn't been world beating and that you know,
estimate when healthy would probably see an opportunity, uh to
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at least make a splash. And here, I mean they
almost jumped up and stung the Chiefs part of it.
You know, it's not a huge yards per carry average,
but good burst, good power, good opportunity.
Speaker 1 (30:58):
Yeah, yeah, it's not a burn by any means. But
if they're gonna go young and they like what he's got,
you got this, you know, rookie and rookie backfield and
Courtland Sutton doing this thing at the receiver position. So yeah,
maybe Denver's got a little something again in the AFC
on there that doesn't take much and at five and
five right now, that's good enough to get you the
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final wild card in the AFC.
Speaker 4 (31:21):
Yeah, pretty good defense, right that we've Yeah, good kind
of cliped that off as the season went on bo Nicks.
There are moments where it's like, all right, it's starting
to come together, and then there are others where while
he's not down in the Caleb Williams world, there's still
the I could I wait for the immediate reaction shot
from Sean Payton when a play goes awry or you
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know the mystery misthrow or you know, absorbs a bad
sack or starts running around haplessly. But he's got the
wheels enough to at least get himself out of trouble
on occasion. So all that to say, you know, maybe
some brighter heads days ahead for that offense.
Speaker 1 (31:58):
I know this team was blown up by the Ravens
the week prior. That's going to happen to you. To
lose the close one to the Chiefs. I mean they're
five losses of being five and five. They lost his
Chiefs Ravens, Chargers, Steelers in the Seahawks on opening Day.
Speaker 4 (32:13):
Feeling pretty good about that, right, four playoff teams in
the Seahawks circling.
Speaker 1 (32:19):
Yeah, yeah, I like it. I like it. And they
beat Nos time was very good. They beat the Jets too,
so you've got a tiebreaker over them. But they've beaten
who they've I guess now as we look back at
the season and see where everybody is, they've beaten who
they've needed to beat. And when you've got a schedule
that includes the Falcons and Raiders again and the Browns
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coming up and Colts like those are all again winnable
games for you for Denver before you end with Chargers,
Bengals and Chiefs. So it could be, uh, you know,
Denver's gonna want to make their hay. But if that
he's in the bar and it could bode well for
them in the postseason. Speaking yeah, speaking of voting well, Ian,
how do the streaming defense is going Week ten?
Speaker 5 (33:00):
So it was a split down the middle because I
gave you guys to the Giants and the Bills. Now
the Giants will start with the bad news. The Giants
only gave you three points, So I guess the glass
half full version of that is that they didn't lose
you any points, which, as we've seen with defenses, can
be the case.
Speaker 4 (33:14):
Getting run over by m Hubbard and said question my
contract will you yeah?
Speaker 5 (33:19):
Exactly fifty three? Yeah. So they had some issues with
Hubbard on his new contracts and stuff. But you know again,
still three points isn't as bad as it could have been.
But but the Bills seventeen points, so that has the
potential to have one year week just having that advantage
in the defensive category. They had three interceptions, a fumble recovery,
four sacks, and a touchdown.
Speaker 4 (33:40):
So yeah, that touchdown right away? Yeah you want to
talk about me?
Speaker 5 (33:45):
Yeah, spiking, Yeah, so that happened. I already knew the
Bills one was going to hit.
Speaker 3 (33:50):
So that's where you start getting greedy. It's like, how
bad can this get?
Speaker 1 (33:55):
I'll tell you what the flower on Flacco is off
in Indianapolis. Right, you have now seen the turn again.
People forget like Flacco for the Browns were so bad
that Joe Flacco just had to play a couple of
good games and people forgot about everything. But he threw
two pick sixes in that division or in that wild
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card game against the Houston Texans.
Speaker 5 (34:19):
Yeah, it's also funny now to look back that he
wanted over DeMar Hamlin, who Now Hamlin's been having a
pretty good year. He has a few interceptions or Flacco
just looks the complete opposite. So not that it's like,
you know, revisionist history should have been the other way.
Speaker 1 (34:31):
But that is the funniest controversy to me, this this
Comeback Player of the Year award that that is still
talked about. And for those of you that may be
listening to the podcast, Joe Flacco won it last year
because of what he did and coming in and taking
over for for you know, for the Browns that they're
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quarterbacking carousel that they had in Cleveland. But there was
so much hype around Tomorrow Hamlin's return from almost dying
on the football field and coming back and playing that
they made sure that the criteria was clear now and
a situation like Hamlin's would trump what Flacco did. If
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you were thinking about a comeback Player of the year,
crazy that you would that you would care so much
about this award. I mean tomor Hamlin only played in
three games last year, right, you know, Like I don't
I know that sounds awful considering you know again of
what he went through and how awful that night was
and everything leading up to it and wanting it. But
like I get it for those who were like, man,
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this comeback story for Joe Flacco being on the couch,
I totally get it at the end. Off was like, uh,
you aren't going to ruin our great story. You're not
going to do it. It's not going to happen. So they
changed the.
Speaker 4 (35:48):
Rules the impact versus you know, impact capital I versus
lowercase I, right on the football field versus global you know,
messaging and everything else that he can do with Deamorrow hamblin.
But from a football perspective, yeah, Joe Flacco coming in
leading you know, the Browns, the Browns coach of the year,
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Stefanski too.
Speaker 3 (36:11):
For a while, he was the odds.
Speaker 4 (36:13):
On favorite to be the first coach fired because of
the Deshaun Watson thing, even though really it's Haslam doing
the hostage negotiating thing going in.
Speaker 1 (36:23):
But yeah, well so you know, so when Flacco leads
the Browns to four straight wins to close out the season,
they clinched the playoff birth and then he doesn't play
in Week eighteen. But in the in the six games
that he played, this is again this people forget this stuff.
He threw fourteen touchdowns, he threw ten interceptions in those
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six games. So Ian, kudos to you on the Bills pick.
And now people are just wondering, like, remember Joe Flacco
didn't get a starting job in the NFL, and you
would think that the way that we talk about him,
that he would have been a starter amongst, you know,
teams in the National Football coming off of what he did.
But the interceptions were a problem. And the interceptions are
a problem again.
Speaker 4 (37:06):
But it becomes the what is he compared to X,
Y or Z. Right in Cleveland, I think if you
pulled people even with those ten interceptions, you won games.
Speaker 1 (37:17):
Oh yeah, I did it.
Speaker 4 (37:19):
So did Deshaun Watson. Thing throw them out, same thing.
Anthony Richardson's so been so erratic and confusing. It was like, yeah,
well the old adage though, dan he in the you know,
backup quarterbacks the most popular guy in the world until
he actually has to play.
Speaker 1 (37:35):
It's very true, and that the conversation al in Indy
is like, Okay, if we are gonna lose, then why
don't we just see what our other guy, what our
first round pick does have, or at least allow him
to work through it if Joe Flacco isn't that much better.
Flacco did throw for three hundred yards excuse me for
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in five the final five games that he had last season,
So even though he had all those interceptions, he did
have the yardage in four of those games were wins.
So but all right, I think about the Bills, and.
Speaker 4 (38:11):
He also had stories and questions coming out of the
Bears thing. Not to go back to that topic, but hey,
should Caleb Williams still be the starter?
Speaker 3 (38:19):
It's like, what are we doing?
Speaker 1 (38:20):
Yeah? Anyway, good tyson bag. It's like, yes he should be, Yes,
he should be the starter.
Speaker 4 (38:26):
I want to get killed, collect my contract. I do
not want to play behind that o line. Yes, four
have Shane Waldron calling plays for me.
Speaker 1 (38:35):
Oh man, well, all right, my game, my my games
that I had Survivor took the Chargers.
Speaker 3 (38:42):
There you go.
Speaker 1 (38:43):
That was that was a solid win. My Points of
Palooza only provided thirty seven points. But if Yung Waiku
would have made more field goals, I would have been
more happy about it. But I had Saints, Falcons and
kind of a one going out on a limbit and
what was a bad week and there were one sided games.
I'm not going to kill myself beat myself up over
it for picking the Saints and Falcons for being the
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points of loose up. I will say my Oasis pick
to it. Did not listen to me to slide away.
And I also realized after I did it, I go,
I think I did slide away in week one, so
I've already doubled up songs. So a bad job by me.
But two only threw one touchdown pass, so I can't
say that I cashed in on Monday Night football.
Speaker 4 (39:21):
Well, you wanted him to slide and get out of
harm's way. Listen, go back to that interception, retrot what
are you doing? Or down and towards the he's on
a scramble. It's like, get down, get down. But to
your point, Dan, and I agree with you. Hey, you
do what you're gonna do?
Speaker 1 (39:37):
Yeap oh man crazy?
Speaker 4 (39:41):
Yeah, my report card was boy, I failed. I'd be
repeating whatever grade this week was a tough one.
Speaker 3 (39:49):
I mean did okay?
Speaker 4 (39:50):
Quarterback wise right with the four of my top five
finished in the top eleven, okay, I'll take it. Not
pretty running back top five only one finished in the
top twelve, so only as one RB one. The rest
of them, including Saquon Barkley. Barkley was twenty seven in
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that beat down. Right, didn't need him. McCaffrey, who is
I had the star on sitting in the six position,
finished tenth in PPR league. So we're feeling good. Wide receiver,
same thing, just awful all around. Milik Neighbors thanked. I
gotta keep reminding myself when you want to talk about
Melik Neighbors, remember Daniel Jones or somebody else is throwing
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him the football ergo, don't bother the others. All failures
number six and the seven. The honorable mentions were Saint
Brown and Tyreek Hill. At least he'll scored. I'm desperate here,
I need some kind of positivity.
Speaker 3 (40:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (40:50):
On the hot plays, we did have George Pickens and
Drake London as two of our guys cold soars. Caleb
Williams has said stay as far away as possible. Tony
Pollard finishes RB twenty three, so those are two wins there.
And then on the Ninja list, I did have Trey
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Benson on the list and so he at least gave you,
you know, enough to be in back end RB two
and Tyrone Tracy finished as RB eight. Otherwise losses really
light up the board. Back to the wide receivers, Jefferson
and Cooper Cup was eighteenth. I'm not taking a win
on that Diebo was twenty third. Devonte Adams finished thirty
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fifth in what could have been a plus matchup or
at least look like one. Bresee Hall see Jet suck.
He was twenty first. Sorry, I'm taking out my anger
on you in hey.
Speaker 3 (41:46):
Kyron Williams was.
Speaker 4 (41:47):
Twenty first, so he gave us not much of anything.
The hot plays Stafford finished twenty twenty first to two
is twenty second. Aaron Jones was number nineteen, Jonathan Taylor
was number fourteen, DeAndre Swift number thirty two. Again going
back to this was the worst, one of the worst
run defenses in the game. Didn't matter. Bears continue to
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flail along the way. So we'll take our l's take
our lumps. Get ready for Week eleven as the Giant, Cardinals, Buccaneers,
and Carolina Panthers all take the week off.
Speaker 1 (42:21):
That's a pretty good week off of teams.
Speaker 4 (42:24):
I was gonna say, other than Baker Mayfield and Bucky
Irving and the Cardinals. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'll miss James Connor.
I like watching that guy.
Speaker 1 (42:34):
Sure, Marvin Arrison Junior as well. Heck Trey McBride, what
a game he had running over all of the New
York Jets.
Speaker 4 (42:41):
This past weekend the highest yardage output we've seen from
Kyler Murray coming into the game. He only had four
games on the plus side of two hundred yards and
he was barely north of that in those games.
Speaker 1 (42:53):
So the let me just let me just touch on this.
The we are now in the sweet spot of games
in the NFL. Okay, So what the NFL likes to
do is they like to load up these games. Here
in mid to late November, you have about a three
or four week push of just amazing football. Bill's Chiefs.
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I think is the highlight for week eleven. Once you say, Mike,
is that that's fair? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (43:22):
Yeah, I think I think those two late games on
on Sunday A.
Speaker 3 (43:26):
The big ones.
Speaker 1 (43:27):
So to have Alan against Mahomes that that's that's what
you want, That's what your your networks want. Then the
next week forty nine Ers at Green Bay. You know there,
there's there's there's that's quite a quite a matchup. Then
the next week is your Thanksgiving week, but then your
late game. These are your two games the Thanksgiving week
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on the Sunday you have Eagles at Ravens and then
the Sunday night game is forty nine ers at Buffalo,
and then the the following week, Week fourteen, the week
after Thanksgiving gives you the Chargers at Chiefs, your Bears
at forty nine ers in Buffalo against the Rams Dallas
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in Cincinnati was also nice quarterbacking game. But things have
obviously changed. But yeah, you're getting in this. This is
what the NFL likes to do with. You had it
with Eagles Cowboys last week. It kind of started last week.
Over these next two or three weeks, you get these
really marquee, juicy matchups that will be salivating over.
Speaker 4 (44:29):
I gotta say I was really kind of bummed because
early Sunday morning, you know, with the admission that Jalen
Hurts was battling an ankle, I was really looking forward
to Cooper Rush against Kenny Pickett. For about five minutes,
I'm like, oh, it was fun. And I looked at
the number, I'm like, yeah, the number hasn't moved.
Speaker 1 (44:46):
You weren't doing a live radio show at that time.
I compared it to the eighty seven strike with scab
players when it was thirty one to six. Clayton Tune
was in the game, Kenny Pickett was in the game.
Trade Lancers and the game it was Yes, it.
Speaker 5 (45:02):
Was that bad Clayton dude.
Speaker 2 (45:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (45:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (45:05):
And the Jets weren't pulling Rogers. That was like the
funny thing, like he was still in the game. That's
suing it. Yeah, all right, did we get everything? Okay,
we get did our report cards? Waiver wire?
Speaker 4 (45:14):
Yeah, we'll just do a quick waiver wire as we
run through. H estimate obviously is number one. We've got
Jalen war and we want to look at as well,
a little bit deeper tight end position. Johnny Smith, who
you saw running over people. That was one of my
highlights as Smith and I did the show and reacting
Dan on Monday nights. Like tack League still sucks in
(45:37):
week ten, like what should have been like a six
yard game becomes him barreling his way all the way
down to the the one yard line.
Speaker 3 (45:44):
What are we doing bouncing off multiple defenders?
Speaker 4 (45:47):
How about someone actually trying to tackle him it instead
of doing the I'm gonna run my shoulder into you.
Speaker 1 (45:52):
Who needs that?
Speaker 3 (45:53):
My bother Tyler Algier still out there.
Speaker 4 (45:56):
He had a nice big game for Atlanta and that's
always the George card. He's owned in fewer than fifty
percent of leagues. I don't understand why. Well, you know
the one two punch and just insurance, right, I know
benches are shorter, but still the commitment there. We talked
Trey Benson a little bit earlier, so move on from him. Obviously,
Russell Wilson this week has a massive plus advantage matchup
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available in about two thirds of leagues. Still, look, I
still have some very big questions about the Pittsburgh offense.
But between Warren and Harris, the running the football more
effectively the last month. The moon ball from Wilson is
it always going to be on target? Is always going
to be right now, But you get an opportunity and
you get a chance. And this week that Ravens defense
(46:41):
is terrible. Right, you know, we did a deep dive
a little bit. You know, everybody keeps trying to ah
the Chiefs lucky this that whatever. It's like, you know what,
they don't have an obvious, huge deficiency like the rest
of every other team in this damn NFL.
Speaker 1 (46:54):
Yes, that's very true, you know what I mean?
Speaker 4 (46:56):
Like, all right, Ravens, the offense is great, that defense stick.
Speaker 1 (47:00):
I hired somebody on Monday be like Ravens are going
to kill the Steelers, So why would you think that, Yeah,
they can't stop anything right now, So why would you
think all of a sudden they're going to destroy Pittsburgh
who probably can handle Lamar Jackson, you know, I mean
they could figure out Away or Derrick Henry.
Speaker 3 (47:18):
Did you like the Jayden Daniels.
Speaker 4 (47:21):
Uh? When folks tried to and Mike Talblin was like,
all right, he's setting Lamar Jackson up.
Speaker 1 (47:27):
I think put a stop to it. Yeah, really a.
Speaker 4 (47:30):
Right, So Ricky Piersoll into the mix with Sam Franz. Uh,
that's kind of the wing and a prayer. Hey, maybe
there's something here we can look at. Going back to Pittsburgh.
Mike Williams, he's not going to get a lot of
opportunity opportunities, but if you're looking for the home run threat,
and certainly for daily fantasy, he's a guy you want
gonna want to keep an.
Speaker 3 (47:48):
Eye out for week to week. Uh.
Speaker 4 (47:50):
And I think that's it's a short list of really mustads. Otherwise,
you know, you start digging deeper into you know, Gus
Edward came back, and you know the Chargers are going
to want to run the football they're getting better play
out of it. Herbert the last couple of weeks, no
question about it. But the run is still going to
be the identity. So maybe you add him, wondering if
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there's there are some weeks where he suddenly becomes the
bell cow once again. Johnston's been in play as well,
with them winging the ball a little bit, but otherwise,
you know, it's the situational football. The obvious must must
pickups necessary aren't really there at this point, thinning out
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as we get to week eleven.
Speaker 1 (48:35):
All right, well, just like my playoff hopes are in,
a lot of my fantasy leagues are fitting out. We
will end it there. Our quick little last segment just
took twenty minutes. Hey, but we had.
Speaker 3 (48:45):
Fun get him on, get him over, get him in exactly.
Speaker 1 (48:48):
Yeah, yeah, so this is good times. Glad back with
you guys. Glad the voice is almost back to be
better at our next podcast as well, And that's when
Michael break down the rankings for week eleven of the
National foot Fall League season. Ian, I'll have a streaming
defenses and yeah, I'll give you a little tidbit as well.
So for Ian, Roddy and Mike Carmen. I'm Dan Byer,
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Speaker 1 (00:33):
Well, what a mess. Week ten was. Maybe not as
messed up as my voice, Mike Harmen, but I am back.
Thank you guys for holding down the fort when I
was in Oklahoma and then basically silenced by this bug
that's been dealing with me for the last week or two.
That bug seemed to infect the NFL in Week ten
because there was a whole lot of hot garbage.
Speaker 4 (00:51):
Yeah, no scoring whatsoever. Everybody needs a nice big bowl
chicken soup, some vic vabo rub app liberally and then
you wrap and saran rap. At least that was my
mom's thing back in the day.
Speaker 5 (01:06):
I like that you said it's dealing with you, though, Dan,
not the other way around.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
Charge Here, I'll tell you what. There were a lot
of remedies. Everybody's got their own, and some of them,
you know, worked, others didn't. It's you know, is it hot,
is it cold? How do you deal with it? Because
a lot of times when you lose your voice, people
think like, oh, you got to do hot. But I've
had many a doctor tell me you need cold, you
need anti inflammatories so the vocal cords aren't strained. And
(01:38):
so that's what i'd been doing for a while. Mary Mack,
our teammate at Fox Sports Radio, gave me some throat coat. Again.
I would change the name, but that's just.
Speaker 4 (01:47):
And it's one of my favorite. I've got a big
bucket of it.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
Yeah. Yeah, it helped on Sunday and I hope it
like propelled me to Monday. But here we are, But
I am, I am, you know, me and Vick's but
we've got we've got Mike. You know, there was the
old days where you could get vics from nineteen seventy
two and still use it at nineteen eighty nine, it
was it was still good and you weren't running out
of it. Now they have it like on the roll on,
(02:14):
you know, with like sticks, like it's almost like a lipstick.
Yet oh, that was the thing where the logo he
faded over time.
Speaker 4 (02:23):
Yeah, he like, how old is this? No idea? But
there's still a third of a tub left, let's go.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
It was that bad, you know, I kid you not.
Some of these things of VIX were like truly like
seventeen years old. But hey, they stood the test of
time and they worked. It's amazing that you still had
some left over no matter how sick you were.
Speaker 5 (02:44):
Well, I wonder if we still have some some tubs
of vic from nineteen seventy two that would still be
good today.
Speaker 4 (02:50):
And guaranteed I'm going to find someone eating just on principle,
because that was the best.
Speaker 3 (02:55):
Like that's when I had a sense of smell.
Speaker 4 (02:57):
I lost mine before COVID some illness and whatever, infection whatever,
But like back then, that was that was the thing
that made you know you were alive in the winter. Yeah,
and that Josh it punched you in the face.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
Used VIX. He put some of my nose as well,
right underneath you know, when you're stuffed up. Yeah, a
lot of the games could have used VIS. On Sunday
it was like we get this this dandy Bengals Ravens game,
and then it's just a complete letdown, even up until
Monday Night. We always talk about the Monday Night or
on this podcast and Dolphins Rams. I don't know if
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Karen Williams is starting to become a thing with the
non touchdowns. But the third straight game that he didn't
score a rushing touchdown, in the second straight game he
didn't score a touchdown period. But Rams just had a
tough going of it against the Dolphins defense on Monday Night.
Speaker 4 (03:47):
Rough run for the Rams, stafford an interception. Six straight
games for him, the longest of his career. He goes
for two hundred ninety three yards. He sacked four times,
misses a couple of wide open receivers. You you also have
a couple drop passes that were huge. Pukadakua ends up with,
you know, empty calories for fantasy purposes.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
You take them.
Speaker 4 (04:08):
However, they come right, nine catches, ninety eight yards, Like,
what a great day. You only said that if you
didn't watch the game, sure, right, because it was awful
all the way through. Cooper Cup ends up with a
seven catch, eighty yard day. Great, fantastic, But again, if
you watched it, it was painful. The fact that DeMarcus
Robinson was out of the box score until the final
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two minutes. Who goes to the Dolphins. Dolphins defensive squad
which had been giving up about twenty four game, but
today they rally up right. Eight Chan does nothing on
the ground, just thirty seven yards and his twelve carries,
and you basically have a wash between the two rushing.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
Efforts and eight Chan owners.
Speaker 4 (04:52):
And I know because well I was one until Guillotine
died in one of them that I had is the
you know, you saw the touchdown pass to Tyreek Hill
and you started cursing because like, even if you only
had the thirty yards rushing or thirty seven yards rushing
and what fifteen did have five receptions, So he helped
you there barely falling forward, but you know, touchdown there
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makes that a lot more palatable game.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
Yeah, absolutely, Instead.
Speaker 4 (05:19):
It's all right, Yeah, he was good enough as a
flex play instead of the top five that you know
he was projected to be against this rams D so
on both sides, Yeah, just tough sledding and for Kyron
Williams behind the shuffled offensive line and the inefficiencies that
are showing with Stafford, Yeah, it's going to be a
tough sled the back half of the season.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
Well, what do you think about to us since his return,
because the Dolphins offense hasn't been what we had saw
had seen in the previous couple of seasons now that
he's been back. I mean, he can't complain from what
they did offensively Monday night because they won the football game.
But when you look at the numbers, you see too,
his numbers, you're like, okay, all right, yeah, you know,
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two hundred yards that's threw a touchdown pass. Maybe not
what you expected. And then you look at everybody else
since your point about eight chan you Tyreek Hills touchdowns
saved his awful night. Jayalen Waddell had a nice couple
of catches here. He moster was nowhere to be found.
Just really funky with the Miami Dolphins right now.
Speaker 4 (06:18):
Yeah, pretty odd, right, I mean he finish his quarterback
twenty two for the week. Stafford's right there with him.
But you look at the last couple of weeks because
even against the in the games the narrow losses to
Buffalo into Arizona where they scored twenty seven points, still
pedestrian numbers for yes, right, two thirty four and a
touchdown in the twenty eight twenty seven lost Arizona two
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thirty one did have two touchdowns. Okay, solid against the Bills,
but not world beating. Okay, that's nice, nice mid line
kind of stuff. And then this week two oh seven,
one and one, and look if he throws an interception,
I don't want you going back trying to tackle anybody
or getting the way I mean, you got unbelievable, you know.
(07:01):
I like the I don't care, but he's he's man.
Speaker 5 (07:05):
I also was listening to his post game afterwards, and
he was kind of like joking about you know, he
laughed about it a little bit, and I don't know
he only laughed because this isn't a joke, you know,
like this is your your life.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
I I I don't care anymore. And I mean that
in a way of if he's down with it, yeah.
Speaker 4 (07:23):
If he's on the field, yeah right, I'm one hundred
percent life. I'm just in the h I was just
thinking from the coaching I need this guy another seven
weeks from your your standpoint, Dan, I'm one hundred percent
in agreement.
Speaker 5 (07:35):
Right.
Speaker 4 (07:36):
It's like if you're good or bad, Like, I don't
care if you got a hurt ankle, the quad's messed up,
shoulder hurts. Whatever, if you go between the white lines,
we evaluate you the same. You don't get a bunch
of well butts. You either win or you lose. You
perform or you don't.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
You know the seat to uh And I was just
reading some stats that since he returned, he had the
highest success rates on pass is for first downs than
anybody else in the in the NFL. And that's all
fine and dandy, but you're not seeing the seventy yarders
to Tyreek Hill. You're not seeing those anymore. And maybe
the way that you now defend the Dolphins and try
(08:13):
to try to avoid those. But if that's the case
and this is what defenses are giving Miami, then you
could expect a lot more of this because it had to.
His numbers have been consistent. Tyreek Hill's numbers have not
been I mean, when you go from four catches for
eighty yards to three to sixteen, that's quite the gap,
but it's still four catches are three catches, you know,
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so there's there's not as much variation with the Dolphins.
And I'm just wondering now, like, are you capped? I wouldn't.
I can't trust Raheem most anymore. I think people wanted
to when he in the second half of this season.
I just think that the Dolphins now are just kind
of pedestrian when it comes to fantasy football.
Speaker 4 (08:51):
Yeah, I can't trust any of them, no at all.
I mean, eight Chan is still going to be a
back end two. Tyreek Hill is going to be a
mid to back two. Like like you said, three for sixteen.
Saves his day with the one yard touchdown catch, but
otherwise he's being disappeared. That's his first touchdown since Week one. Yeah,
go all the way back and that was the eighty
(09:12):
yard after you know, the the fumble right, the punch out,
fumble recovery and touch back and that's it.
Speaker 3 (09:21):
Like he's been a giant gap in between.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
How about I pose this and you could jump into
because I think we're all gonna be on the same page.
What three headed monster would you rather go forward with? Kyen,
Puka and cup or eighth Chan, Wattle and Tyreek.
Speaker 4 (09:39):
I'm gonna grit my teeth, but I'll still I'll take
the Rams. My answer would secret options see find me
another trio, but I'll take the Rams even with the inefficiencies.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
Going right now, I down with the Rams.
Speaker 4 (09:53):
Yea Rams, You're at least getting the completions, right, sure,
especially when we talk about the fact that the vast
majority of lee are now at least half PPR, if
not full, So I know I'm at least getting Stafford
completing the ball. Whether I'm getting five yards of catch
doesn't matter, because each one of those points counts.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
Yeah, And my point too is how often when the
Dolphins are playing a game that you'd rather have the
other team's offensive weapons. Yeah, but I think that's where
we are now with the Miami Dolphins and to his
return and a tyment right now in what is a
jacked up AFC, completely jacked up heading into this weekend,
and I said this on my Sunday show, there were
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six teams entering the weekend with two losses. Ian's Jets
weren't even one of those teams. Like, it was so
bad for the AFC because you had the Jaguars, you
had the Patriots, you had the Raiders, you had the Browns.
They were on by six teams had entered the weekend
with a loss, and it allowed Ian's crappy Jets to
(10:57):
still be considered in the playoff picture because heck, well
they only had they had three wins. At least it
put them tenth, you know, and that excuse me, Yeah,
it was in the tenth spot, so you know. So
it's just it's crazy, like how bad that conference actually
is because we talk about, you know, the good teams
and whatnot. The Dolphins, now with their third win, as
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crazy as it is, could be difficult, but they're not
completely out of it just yet. Even though having three
wins through ten weeks of the season is not a
recipe for success.
Speaker 4 (11:28):
In the playoffs, would you like me to give you
the even crazier part going forward as much as we're
looking at the numbers and and look, the show is now, right,
the podcast is now. Thank you all for listening and
tuning in and being part of our extended family. The
Dolphins have the third weakest remaining schedule in all the NFL.
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Tampa at three twenty eight. The last opponent they have
that is on the plus side as the Chargers. Then
you have Indianapolis. They've got two games on the plus side,
the Lions and the Broncos. Miami three games over there,
Green Bay, Houston, San Francisco. None of those teams what
we were expecting, right, Jordan loves turning the ball over
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a ton. Houston has a lot of problems that were
masked up early, not anymore. We'll see what happens with
the receiving corps what have you. But that offensive line
is terrible and Stroud looks a little bit gun shy
in terms of taking his shots. And then San Francisco
they get McCaffrey back. That wasn't a pretty win on
Sunday to win, but it wasn't pretty on the other side.
(12:30):
They've got the Raiders, they've got the Browns, they've got
the Patriots and Ian they got you twice winning percentage
for the remaining teams for the Dolphins three ninety five.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
Wow. Well, I should say I stumbled upon it. But
when the Broncos lost to the Chiefs on Sunday, I
just was like, Oh, that's gonna come back to bite Denver.
Then I just looked at the rest of the AFC
and I'm like, yeah, probably not, you know what I mean,
Like realistically, like you're battling the Colts right now, who
are a mess themselves. The Bengals obviously are a threat
(13:07):
but you know when you're looking for that final wild card. Yeah,
it's not a it's not a battle Royale that you
would have hoped that it would have been. Instead, it's
just a bunch of crap in the AFC, and whoever's
crap floats towards the end actually may have a shot
at making them mostly done.
Speaker 4 (13:23):
Oh man, boy and c As we head into week eleven,
what do you got ian No.
Speaker 5 (13:28):
I'm just gonna say, like, because of yeah, what you
were saying, there probably is going to be a nine
to eight team that sneaks in, which is just kind
of weird to think about.
Speaker 4 (13:34):
Right, Yeah, but yeah, I mean you go through Indianapolis,
like you said, is got the the second easiest schedule
remaining Miami there, uh, and then you drift up a
little bit. Denver teams they have remaining have a nice
even five hundred record. Cincinnati's right there with them at
five hundred. You've got but they've got the Steelers twice,
(13:55):
They've got the Chargers, and they've got the Broncos on
the other side. To see common opponents on the negative
side for Cincinnati and Denver, they both play the Browns.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
Okay, well, I'll say this when Ian said, like nine
and eight, you know, can get you in the playoffs,
that isn't too surprising. What's surprising is that there is
a playoff picture right now where you don't have five teams. Remember,
Mike get a couple a couple of years ago, we
laughed because the NFC playoff picture had fourteen teams in it. Yeah,
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you know, like there are only like two teams, teams.
Speaker 3 (14:32):
That were off the grid.
Speaker 1 (14:34):
Yeah. Yeah, And that's what happens when you expand the
playoffs to seven teams. Everybody is still in the playoff picture.
But the AFC right now is so bad at the
bottom that I don't know how you could have any
more than ten right now.
Speaker 4 (14:46):
It's like the Bills running away and hiding in the East. Yeah,
three three win teams behind them. Yes, a little bit
of cannibalism there in the North with the Steelers and Ravens.
They'll play this week, which will be on Houston. The
imperfect six and four Indianapolis had their chance and went
and got throttled by Buffalo Tennessee and Jacksonville deplorable. And
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then you've got the Chiefs at nine and zero, Chargers
six and three, the Broncos at five and five, and
then the hapless Raiders who should were Sanders keeps thanking
every time they lose. So all that to say, it
goes back. We've talked about it for years on this podcast.
Ian's new to this one with us Dan Parody's bad. Sure,
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the striving for parity is bad because this is what
we get.
Speaker 1 (15:38):
The Bills on the tiebreaker over the Dolphins because of
the season sweep, and if they beat the Jets in Buffalo,
they'll have that tiebreaker and they likely will then have
a five game lead when there's only seven games remaining now,
you know in the National Football League regular season, at
least for Buffalo and the Jets, you know, for that situation.
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I mean, you know, this is this thing could be
over next week. Yeah, I mean it's yeah, it's it's
pretty absurd.
Speaker 4 (16:06):
All right, let's go into the backups. Who's Buffalo running
out there? My prediction of Josh Allen, his MVP goes
to hell because he may be's sitting down like he's
Peyton Manning back to to day.
Speaker 3 (16:17):
He does the Queen's Wave and walks off.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
We lost one week of preseason football and got four
more of it. On the back half, thanks a lot.
Roger Goodell all right, he's like, Huhirk, I'm dan Byer,
Ian Roddy's our executive producer. Hit Mike up at Swollen Dome.
Can find me at dan Byer on Fox and get
Ian at Ian Roddy Underscore. All right, we're gonna give
our report cards. We've got our waiver wire that's coming
up next, but we'll also dive into what happened this
(16:42):
past week and what we did say was kind of
a crappy Week ten. Christian McCaffrey's returning so much more.
That's next here on I want your flex welcome back.
I am dan Byer. That's Mike Carmen. Ian Roddy's our
executive producer. My Seahawks were off in week ten, and
I'm I think I had the best week amongst US
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three because with that happened, with what happened to Mike's
Bears against New England and Ian's Jets against the Cardinals.
Can't help but laugh, Yeah, rough week. At least the
Seahawks didn't play. That's a little bit easier for me
than what you guys had to deal with.
Speaker 3 (17:18):
Ian. I'll let you go first, I got to compose myself.
Speaker 5 (17:21):
Yeah, I mean I also have to compose myself as well.
I'm still I'm still upset with the Jets. But if
the season wasn't already over, it's it's it's over now.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
Yeah, I don't know at what point on the Jets
side of things, like why people continue to have hope.
Speaker 5 (17:36):
I look, anyone who talked to me this week leading
up knew that I was saying I could easily see
them losing this game, and in fact I expected them
to lose this game. Did I expect them to look
that bad? No, But this is just it was so
on brand for them to get everyone's hopes up last
week with the win over Houston. Looked pretty good in
the second half, like you might have figured something out,
(17:57):
and then they just come out so flat from the
beginning of the game against Arizona. It's just it's so
on brand. And now, just as a jetsman, I know
they're going to win against Indy next week, Like I'm
going to put money on that game personally, because this
is what they do. They're going to win when it's
too late. Sure, that's what they do every time.
Speaker 1 (18:16):
Well, you know, the Texans were obviously shorthanded at wide
receiver and Mike mentioned earlier some of their struggles that
they've been experiencing. But it was also a home game
on a short week. You get a lot of momentum
with that, and there's an advantage to doing that, and
I think people bought in and believed that, all right,
that was the turnaround. And also people just for some
(18:37):
reason don't believe that the Arizona Cardinals are any good
and it is a big faux paws on their part
to think that. I mean, they are truly a team.
Trey Benson taking up his own role, you know, the
Cardinals are a good squad. It was just funny for
me to people from people believing in the Jets, thinking like,
all right, this is going to be the week when
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the Jets are who they are. Nothing that's going to change.
Aaron Rodgers is who he is and that's who they are,
and their coaching staff isn't good enough to change anything.
In Arizona, sitting there right now atop that NFC West
just you know, having a good old time.
Speaker 3 (19:12):
Right And we talked about the Rams.
Speaker 4 (19:13):
They had an opportunity to make some noise and at
least keep pace, they lose to the Dolphins, your Seahawks
on the by watching it all transpire. But you know,
we don't do a lot of game prediction, right, that's
become a huge thing in our.
Speaker 3 (19:29):
Whatever.
Speaker 4 (19:30):
Everybody's going to do their picks against the spread, whatever.
Jason and I do a couple on Friday and it's
usually all right, one or two upsets and leave it
at that. And I picked both the Cardinals and the Patriots,
and he tried to keep me from the Patriots, saying, no,
you're just mad as a Bears fan. I'm like, no,
I'm being real, Like, there are a lot of problems
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with this team. This is not emotional. I didn't think
they were that great coming in. I thought it would
look a little prettier, but yeah, you know, the guts
of it were still bad. The offensive line, like you
could go and grab all the wide receivers you want,
you can't protect a quarterback. He's up to thirty eight
sacks taken on the year after this debacle.
Speaker 5 (20:12):
That video that's going viral of the Patriots lineman helping
him up after the sack.
Speaker 3 (20:17):
That's not agreatable. No, that's just it.
Speaker 4 (20:19):
Right, Your alignment are nowhere to be found. This guy
feels pity on him because you're writhing around on the
ground in pain because you've been hit once again. We
get down into the final minutes of the game, just
like last week, it's a lost cause you're not moving
the football. He's getting his ass kicked and he's still
in the game. And I get it. It's nineteen to three,
like it's the NFL. It's only a two possession games
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like No, it might as well have been.
Speaker 3 (20:43):
A forty point lead.
Speaker 4 (20:44):
The way that game played out, just an absolute disaster,
abject failure. Williams sixteen of thirty for one hundred and
twenty yards. Again, the nine sacks on the day, missing
wide open receivers, and like, I'd be curious, I'd love
to pay a couple of alignment, a couple of quarterbacks
to just sit with me for an hour and let's
go through his thirty eight sacks and you decide which
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column they go on and see if we can come
to some consensus. Because it's easy to blame the lineman.
And the line line is bad, right, we saw that
even you know, but even with the shuffling this week.
Because I don't I don't know how much of this
got mentioned. They were down several starters again, more shuffling,
but you were already faulty before that. And now your
(21:29):
game plan is still We're going to drop back and
pass against the team that is giving up ample yardage
every game on the ground, Like we talked about it,
and part of the breakdown, and we'll get to the
report card was like teams are running all over them
for fantasy purposes. They were a bottom five defense. Yet
you Roshawn Johnson sees the ball once right, You're you're
(21:53):
not going and barreling in to try to get the
four yards on first down to make it easy setups
for second and six or second and five or whatever.
Like just flawed all around you. You watched Waldron for years,
and you know, you bring back Eberflus. It's a whole
other cluster the way the organization is run. But for
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Caleb Williams, now it becomes the all right, He's the
latest in a long line of NFL quarterbacks these last
couple of years that gets buried based on some bad
coaching decisions and the development of some bad habits that
they then can't break.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
Yeah, you know, and and and Waldron was available because
there was a coaching change, not that he was pried away.
And you know, we talked a lot about the Jackson
Smith and Jigbit comments as well. Bring that up, but
you know a lot of times they even't sought. This
past week of just a refresher of the Seahawks fans
(22:47):
when they found the news that, you know, the Bears
were going to hire Waldron, and nobody was nobody was
really you know, nobody was really.
Speaker 4 (22:54):
Mad Bears fans when the Raiders hired Getsy. It's like, hey,
good luck with that. Yeah, fine, they took Jackson Smith
and jig quote basically, yeah, good luck.
Speaker 1 (23:05):
DJ Moore has been DJ less. Yeah, you know for
the last month.
Speaker 3 (23:10):
Three catches twenty four yards in this.
Speaker 1 (23:11):
One, yes, which isn't too far off from what he's
done the previous three games. Four catches thirty three yards,
two catches twenty seven yards, four catches twenty yards. I
do think there was something on the route that he
did take off. You know, it was an awful look.
I do think something did happen there. But when everything
else is going on around him, sometimes you don't get
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that leeway. You don't get that uh that that that
moment of grace, if you will. So it was uh
And then him and Caleb Williams bumping shoulders. I know
I wasn't here last week, but after the Arizona gam
like there, you know, Williams prying himself off the field again,
slowly walking off, and he and Dj Moore like they're
in you know, middle school hallways and their two rivals
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and they bumped shoulders and nobody moves and they just
continue to walk in opposite directions.
Speaker 3 (24:00):
Just yeah, tough, tough look silliness.
Speaker 4 (24:03):
At this point, for Dj Moore, the one thing he can,
you know, rest quietly on is the giant mountain of
money that the Bears gave him this offseason, as chronicled
so beautifully in the Hard Knocks edition of the Bears,
one of the top storylines in what was otherwise a
nice bedtime story because corg as hell. But no cursing, no,
(24:24):
no firings, no anything, all positivity until it's not. Patriots
didn't have to do anything grandiose. I do, like Drake may,
I think the kid can play. It's just a function
of all right, bringing in some more talent around him
and developing their Ramandre Stevenson always a solid running back
when he doesn't drop it. I know that's a big caveat,
(24:47):
but again, a guy, if you give him twenty carries,
he takes care of business. Not world beating, but steady
as they go. Not much to write home about from
a receiving standpoint, you know, from the Patriots side. But yeah,
for Chicago it's it's pretty much in the tank. Like
we were talking about with the Rams, or I should say,
with the Dolphins. How much do you trust any of
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these guys.
Speaker 3 (25:08):
At this point?
Speaker 1 (25:09):
I don't.
Speaker 3 (25:10):
Right Switch still going to be a starter as a
number two.
Speaker 4 (25:14):
That's gonna be a big list though, because we're starting
to decide we really hate, you know, I love the Drake.
I hate the Drake, not Drake May in this case,
just the old Seinfeld reference. I don't want anything to
do with the Chicago players because once again, cole Comet's
also an afterthought.
Speaker 3 (25:29):
Sure after a couple of.
Speaker 4 (25:31):
Monster games, like all right, they got it, they got
their connection.
Speaker 3 (25:34):
Two catches, thirteen yards.
Speaker 1 (25:37):
Christian McCaffrey had six catches for sixty eight yards in
his forty nine Ers debut, to go along with thirteen
carries and thirty nine yards. Is this a thumbs up?
Is this a thumbs down? Or is it maybe right
hand thumbs down, left hand thumbs up considering the rushing
wasn't too good and the receiving was no, I don't
want to say exceptional, but pretty good.
Speaker 4 (25:59):
I'll take one hundred plus total yards and and nineteen
touches in my return to the field.
Speaker 3 (26:05):
Right.
Speaker 4 (26:05):
We talked about it last week, Dan while you were
out of Hey, if he's going to be active, I
don't know what I'm getting, but they're not going to
do it for giggles.
Speaker 3 (26:15):
Yeah, right.
Speaker 4 (26:16):
I mean, especially go back to when that diagnosis came
down and we were all going to our online medical
the sources to try to figure out what the hell
they were talking about with his legs as to how
dire it was, right, because all the internet doctors are
like those things are going to pop at any moments,
like well, they're gonna find out, and if they do,
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he's going to have the maximum number of touches his
body can withstand when he returns to the field. And
you know, while it wasn't world beating again, you get
you get a pretty good PPR day out of Himah
six catches.
Speaker 1 (26:50):
The one good thing with the forty nine ers, which
I again they Tampa made a nice comeback at the
end and Moody missed a bunch of kicks. I stated,
no more excuses. I want to see it. Fantasy wise,
everybody was still getting theirs, Juwan Jennings, Ricky Pierce, all
new names instead of what we would get with say
(27:13):
Brandon Aiyuk being in the mix. But CMC got his Deebo,
Samuel got a few carries, got a few catches, George
Kittle cut a touchdown. Nothing dropped off. Despite the problems
that San Francisco or the adversity San Francisco has faced
so far in the first part of the year, maybe
you know there is continued more value with Juwan Jennings,
(27:36):
who had a team high eleven targets in that game.
Speaker 4 (27:38):
Yeah, three point fifty three for prety contract year, all
of those things. So we hang a star on that
as we go deeper in. He's got your Seahawks next
at home that came on Fox, then at Green Bay,
at Buffalo, and then the back half of the schedule.
I mean, look, they don't have any They've got a
pretty tough road. As you go through in the Bears
(28:01):
whatever rams at home at Miami home against Detroit, and
then on the road at Arizona, which could be the
battle for the division at that point.
Speaker 1 (28:13):
Well, well, the Seahawks are not happy with their linebackers
and they continue to make changes after change after change.
We'll see how those linebackers respond to CMC crew coming
up here in week eleven. Any other standouts from what
we had in week ten? There was there was one
thing that that I wanted to point out. I don't
(28:34):
know if it's as as big of a deal as
is maybe the other scenarios that that have played out,
But what about the Denver backfield? Mike Barry gums one, Okay,
all right, hey, you know what perfect we could? We could?
We can?
Speaker 3 (28:49):
We can leave want to it ahead?
Speaker 1 (28:52):
Yeah, well we'll tease it. We'll tease it ahead, Michael,
breakdown the Broncos backfield. Plus, we'll do our report cards,
see how we even did, Ian did and I even
set my picks into the guys, and I'll grade myself
for what was a again below average week of football action,
especially considering what the Thursday night gave us. Hopefully we
(29:12):
were better than below average on our picks. We'll find
out next here and I want your flex, all right,
wrapping things up here on I want your flex. Get
Mike at Swollen Dome, find me dan Byer at dan
Byer on Fox, and you can get Ian Roddy at
Ian Roddy Underscore. So I teased the Broncos backfield, and
in fact, Mike, I thought this was going to be
(29:33):
the week the Chiefs were going to get their first loss.
I had talked about it where if I had to
pick a game, I thought it would probably be a
divisional game Broncos or Raiders. And I really like Denver
And what do you know, oh so close, but you
know what they say and only in horseshoes and hand grenades.
But there is a takeaway from what Denver did against
Kansas City, and that may be a changing of the
(29:55):
guard in the backfield.
Speaker 4 (29:56):
Well, what we've seen, we know mcglothin. At this point,
we know Javonte Williams, Austin estime gets his opportunity. Fourteen
carries fifty three yards nearer, fifty percent snapshare as time,
it's it's time, time for a change, nicely done. I
like that.
Speaker 1 (30:17):
Good time This time man.
Speaker 3 (30:22):
Time has come today.
Speaker 4 (30:23):
So yeah, I mean opportunity here second half of the season,
Sean Payton trying to figure out where he can get
a jump start. And this was a guy we talked
about going back to the preseason, Dan thinking thinking he'd
have an opportunity given you know, Williams has had his
moments but hasn't been world beating and that you know,
estimate when healthy would probably see an opportunity, uh to
(30:47):
at least make a splash. And here, I mean they
almost jumped up and stung the Chiefs part of it.
You know, it's not a huge yards per carry average,
but good burst, good power, good opportunity.
Speaker 1 (30:58):
Yeah, yeah, it's not a burn by any means. But
if they're gonna go young and they like what he's got,
you got this, you know, rookie and rookie backfield and
Courtland Sutton doing this thing at the receiver position. So yeah,
maybe Denver's got a little something again in the AFC
on there that doesn't take much and at five and
five right now, that's good enough to get you the
(31:19):
final wild card in the AFC.
Speaker 4 (31:21):
Yeah, pretty good defense, right that we've Yeah, good kind
of cliped that off as the season went on bo Nicks.
There are moments where it's like, all right, it's starting
to come together, and then there are others where while
he's not down in the Caleb Williams world, there's still
the I could I wait for the immediate reaction shot
from Sean Payton when a play goes awry or you
(31:43):
know the mystery misthrow or you know, absorbs a bad
sack or starts running around haplessly. But he's got the
wheels enough to at least get himself out of trouble
on occasion. So all that to say, you know, maybe
some brighter heads days ahead for that offense.
Speaker 1 (31:58):
I know this team was blown up by the Ravens
the week prior. That's going to happen to you. To
lose the close one to the Chiefs. I mean they're
five losses of being five and five. They lost his
Chiefs Ravens, Chargers, Steelers in the Seahawks on opening Day.
Speaker 4 (32:13):
Feeling pretty good about that, right, four playoff teams in
the Seahawks circling.
Speaker 1 (32:19):
Yeah, yeah, I like it. I like it. And they
beat Nos time was very good. They beat the Jets too,
so you've got a tiebreaker over them. But they've beaten
who they've I guess now as we look back at
the season and see where everybody is, they've beaten who
they've needed to beat. And when you've got a schedule
that includes the Falcons and Raiders again and the Browns
(32:41):
coming up and Colts like those are all again winnable
games for you for Denver before you end with Chargers,
Bengals and Chiefs. So it could be, uh, you know,
Denver's gonna want to make their hay. But if that
he's in the bar and it could bode well for
them in the postseason. Speaking yeah, speaking of voting well, Ian,
how do the streaming defense is going Week ten?
Speaker 5 (33:00):
So it was a split down the middle because I
gave you guys to the Giants and the Bills. Now
the Giants will start with the bad news. The Giants
only gave you three points, So I guess the glass
half full version of that is that they didn't lose
you any points, which, as we've seen with defenses, can
be the case.
Speaker 4 (33:14):
Getting run over by m Hubbard and said question my
contract will you yeah?
Speaker 5 (33:19):
Exactly fifty three? Yeah. So they had some issues with
Hubbard on his new contracts and stuff. But you know again,
still three points isn't as bad as it could have been.
But but the Bills seventeen points, so that has the
potential to have one year week just having that advantage
in the defensive category. They had three interceptions, a fumble recovery,
four sacks, and a touchdown.
Speaker 4 (33:40):
So yeah, that touchdown right away? Yeah you want to
talk about me?
Speaker 5 (33:45):
Yeah, spiking, Yeah, so that happened. I already knew the
Bills one was going to hit.
Speaker 3 (33:50):
So that's where you start getting greedy. It's like, how
bad can this get?
Speaker 1 (33:55):
I'll tell you what the flower on Flacco is off
in Indianapolis. Right, you have now seen the turn again.
People forget like Flacco for the Browns were so bad
that Joe Flacco just had to play a couple of
good games and people forgot about everything. But he threw
two pick sixes in that division or in that wild
(34:17):
card game against the Houston Texans.
Speaker 5 (34:19):
Yeah, it's also funny now to look back that he
wanted over DeMar Hamlin, who Now Hamlin's been having a
pretty good year. He has a few interceptions or Flacco
just looks the complete opposite. So not that it's like,
you know, revisionist history should have been the other way.
Speaker 1 (34:31):
But that is the funniest controversy to me, this this
Comeback Player of the Year award that that is still
talked about. And for those of you that may be
listening to the podcast, Joe Flacco won it last year
because of what he did and coming in and taking
over for for you know, for the Browns that they're
(34:53):
quarterbacking carousel that they had in Cleveland. But there was
so much hype around Tomorrow Hamlin's return from almost dying
on the football field and coming back and playing that
they made sure that the criteria was clear now and
a situation like Hamlin's would trump what Flacco did. If
(35:17):
you were thinking about a comeback Player of the year,
crazy that you would that you would care so much
about this award. I mean tomor Hamlin only played in
three games last year, right, you know, Like I don't
I know that sounds awful considering you know again of
what he went through and how awful that night was
and everything leading up to it and wanting it. But
like I get it for those who were like, man,
(35:39):
this comeback story for Joe Flacco being on the couch,
I totally get it at the end. Off was like, uh,
you aren't going to ruin our great story. You're not
going to do it. It's not going to happen. So they
changed the.
Speaker 4 (35:48):
Rules the impact versus you know, impact capital I versus
lowercase I, right on the football field versus global you know,
messaging and everything else that he can do with Deamorrow hamblin.
But from a football perspective, yeah, Joe Flacco coming in
leading you know, the Browns, the Browns coach of the year,
(36:10):
Stefanski too.
Speaker 3 (36:11):
For a while, he was the odds.
Speaker 4 (36:13):
On favorite to be the first coach fired because of
the Deshaun Watson thing, even though really it's Haslam doing
the hostage negotiating thing going in.
Speaker 1 (36:23):
But yeah, well so you know, so when Flacco leads
the Browns to four straight wins to close out the season,
they clinched the playoff birth and then he doesn't play
in Week eighteen. But in the in the six games
that he played, this is again this people forget this stuff.
He threw fourteen touchdowns, he threw ten interceptions in those
(36:45):
six games. So Ian, kudos to you on the Bills pick.
And now people are just wondering, like, remember Joe Flacco
didn't get a starting job in the NFL, and you
would think that the way that we talk about him,
that he would have been a starter amongst, you know,
teams in the National Football coming off of what he did.
But the interceptions were a problem. And the interceptions are
a problem again.
Speaker 4 (37:06):
But it becomes the what is he compared to X,
Y or Z. Right in Cleveland, I think if you
pulled people even with those ten interceptions, you won games.
Speaker 1 (37:17):
Oh yeah, I did it.
Speaker 4 (37:19):
So did Deshaun Watson. Thing throw them out, same thing.
Anthony Richardson's so been so erratic and confusing. It was like, yeah,
well the old adage though, dan he in the you know,
backup quarterbacks the most popular guy in the world until
he actually has to play.
Speaker 1 (37:35):
It's very true, and that the conversation al in Indy
is like, Okay, if we are gonna lose, then why
don't we just see what our other guy, what our
first round pick does have, or at least allow him
to work through it if Joe Flacco isn't that much better.
Flacco did throw for three hundred yards excuse me for
(37:57):
in five the final five games that he had last season,
So even though he had all those interceptions, he did
have the yardage in four of those games were wins.
So but all right, I think about the Bills, and.
Speaker 4 (38:11):
He also had stories and questions coming out of the
Bears thing. Not to go back to that topic, but hey,
should Caleb Williams still be the starter?
Speaker 3 (38:19):
It's like, what are we doing?
Speaker 1 (38:20):
Yeah? Anyway, good tyson bag. It's like, yes he should be, Yes,
he should be the starter.
Speaker 4 (38:26):
I want to get killed, collect my contract. I do
not want to play behind that o line. Yes, four
have Shane Waldron calling plays for me.
Speaker 1 (38:35):
Oh man, well, all right, my game, my my games
that I had Survivor took the Chargers.
Speaker 3 (38:42):
There you go.
Speaker 1 (38:43):
That was that was a solid win. My Points of
Palooza only provided thirty seven points. But if Yung Waiku
would have made more field goals, I would have been
more happy about it. But I had Saints, Falcons and
kind of a one going out on a limbit and
what was a bad week and there were one sided games.
I'm not going to kill myself beat myself up over
it for picking the Saints and Falcons for being the
(39:05):
points of loose up. I will say my Oasis pick
to it. Did not listen to me to slide away.
And I also realized after I did it, I go,
I think I did slide away in week one, so
I've already doubled up songs. So a bad job by me.
But two only threw one touchdown pass, so I can't
say that I cashed in on Monday Night football.
Speaker 4 (39:21):
Well, you wanted him to slide and get out of
harm's way. Listen, go back to that interception, retrot what
are you doing? Or down and towards the he's on
a scramble. It's like, get down, get down. But to
your point, Dan, and I agree with you. Hey, you
do what you're gonna do?
Speaker 1 (39:37):
Yeap oh man crazy?
Speaker 4 (39:41):
Yeah, my report card was boy, I failed. I'd be
repeating whatever grade this week was a tough one.
Speaker 3 (39:49):
I mean did okay?
Speaker 4 (39:50):
Quarterback wise right with the four of my top five
finished in the top eleven, okay, I'll take it. Not
pretty running back top five only one finished in the
top twelve, so only as one RB one. The rest
of them, including Saquon Barkley. Barkley was twenty seven in
(40:11):
that beat down. Right, didn't need him. McCaffrey, who is
I had the star on sitting in the six position,
finished tenth in PPR league. So we're feeling good. Wide receiver,
same thing, just awful all around. Milik Neighbors thanked. I
gotta keep reminding myself when you want to talk about
Melik Neighbors, remember Daniel Jones or somebody else is throwing
(40:32):
him the football ergo, don't bother the others. All failures
number six and the seven. The honorable mentions were Saint
Brown and Tyreek Hill. At least he'll scored. I'm desperate here,
I need some kind of positivity.
Speaker 3 (40:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (40:50):
On the hot plays, we did have George Pickens and
Drake London as two of our guys cold soars. Caleb
Williams has said stay as far away as possible. Tony
Pollard finishes RB twenty three, so those are two wins there.
And then on the Ninja list, I did have Trey
(41:10):
Benson on the list and so he at least gave you,
you know, enough to be in back end RB two
and Tyrone Tracy finished as RB eight. Otherwise losses really
light up the board. Back to the wide receivers, Jefferson
and Cooper Cup was eighteenth. I'm not taking a win
on that Diebo was twenty third. Devonte Adams finished thirty
(41:34):
fifth in what could have been a plus matchup or
at least look like one. Bresee Hall see Jet suck.
He was twenty first. Sorry, I'm taking out my anger
on you in hey.
Speaker 3 (41:46):
Kyron Williams was.
Speaker 4 (41:47):
Twenty first, so he gave us not much of anything.
The hot plays Stafford finished twenty twenty first to two
is twenty second. Aaron Jones was number nineteen, Jonathan Taylor
was number fourteen, DeAndre Swift number thirty two. Again going
back to this was the worst, one of the worst
run defenses in the game. Didn't matter. Bears continue to
(42:11):
flail along the way. So we'll take our l's take
our lumps. Get ready for Week eleven as the Giant, Cardinals, Buccaneers,
and Carolina Panthers all take the week off.
Speaker 1 (42:21):
That's a pretty good week off of teams.
Speaker 4 (42:24):
I was gonna say, other than Baker Mayfield and Bucky
Irving and the Cardinals. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'll miss James Connor.
I like watching that guy.
Speaker 1 (42:34):
Sure, Marvin Arrison Junior as well. Heck Trey McBride, what
a game he had running over all of the New
York Jets.
Speaker 4 (42:41):
This past weekend the highest yardage output we've seen from
Kyler Murray coming into the game. He only had four
games on the plus side of two hundred yards and
he was barely north of that in those games.
Speaker 1 (42:53):
So the let me just let me just touch on this.
The we are now in the sweet spot of games
in the NFL. Okay, So what the NFL likes to
do is they like to load up these games. Here
in mid to late November, you have about a three
or four week push of just amazing football. Bill's Chiefs.
(43:16):
I think is the highlight for week eleven. Once you say, Mike,
is that that's fair? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (43:22):
Yeah, I think I think those two late games on
on Sunday A.
Speaker 3 (43:26):
The big ones.
Speaker 1 (43:27):
So to have Alan against Mahomes that that's that's what
you want, That's what your your networks want. Then the
next week forty nine Ers at Green Bay. You know there,
there's there's there's that's quite a quite a matchup. Then
the next week is your Thanksgiving week, but then your
late game. These are your two games the Thanksgiving week
(43:50):
on the Sunday you have Eagles at Ravens and then
the Sunday night game is forty nine ers at Buffalo,
and then the the following week, Week fourteen, the week
after Thanksgiving gives you the Chargers at Chiefs, your Bears
at forty nine ers in Buffalo against the Rams Dallas
(44:12):
in Cincinnati was also nice quarterbacking game. But things have
obviously changed. But yeah, you're getting in this. This is
what the NFL likes to do with. You had it
with Eagles Cowboys last week. It kind of started last week.
Over these next two or three weeks, you get these
really marquee, juicy matchups that will be salivating over.
Speaker 4 (44:29):
I gotta say I was really kind of bummed because
early Sunday morning, you know, with the admission that Jalen
Hurts was battling an ankle, I was really looking forward
to Cooper Rush against Kenny Pickett. For about five minutes,
I'm like, oh, it was fun. And I looked at
the number, I'm like, yeah, the number hasn't moved.
Speaker 1 (44:46):
You weren't doing a live radio show at that time.
I compared it to the eighty seven strike with scab
players when it was thirty one to six. Clayton Tune
was in the game, Kenny Pickett was in the game.
Trade Lancers and the game it was Yes, it.
Speaker 5 (45:02):
Was that bad Clayton dude.
Speaker 2 (45:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (45:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (45:05):
And the Jets weren't pulling Rogers. That was like the
funny thing, like he was still in the game. That's
suing it. Yeah, all right, did we get everything? Okay,
we get did our report cards? Waiver wire?
Speaker 4 (45:14):
Yeah, we'll just do a quick waiver wire as we
run through. H estimate obviously is number one. We've got
Jalen war and we want to look at as well,
a little bit deeper tight end position. Johnny Smith, who
you saw running over people. That was one of my
highlights as Smith and I did the show and reacting
Dan on Monday nights. Like tack League still sucks in
(45:37):
week ten, like what should have been like a six
yard game becomes him barreling his way all the way
down to the the one yard line.
Speaker 3 (45:44):
What are we doing bouncing off multiple defenders?
Speaker 4 (45:47):
How about someone actually trying to tackle him it instead
of doing the I'm gonna run my shoulder into you.
Speaker 1 (45:52):
Who needs that?
Speaker 3 (45:53):
My bother Tyler Algier still out there.
Speaker 4 (45:56):
He had a nice big game for Atlanta and that's
always the George card. He's owned in fewer than fifty
percent of leagues. I don't understand why. Well, you know
the one two punch and just insurance, right, I know
benches are shorter, but still the commitment there. We talked
Trey Benson a little bit earlier, so move on from him. Obviously,
Russell Wilson this week has a massive plus advantage matchup
(46:21):
available in about two thirds of leagues. Still, look, I
still have some very big questions about the Pittsburgh offense.
But between Warren and Harris, the running the football more
effectively the last month. The moon ball from Wilson is
it always going to be on target? Is always going
to be right now, But you get an opportunity and
you get a chance. And this week that Ravens defense
(46:41):
is terrible. Right, you know, we did a deep dive
a little bit. You know, everybody keeps trying to ah
the Chiefs lucky this that whatever. It's like, you know what,
they don't have an obvious, huge deficiency like the rest
of every other team in this damn NFL.
Speaker 1 (46:54):
Yes, that's very true, you know what I mean?
Speaker 4 (46:56):
Like, all right, Ravens, the offense is great, that defense stick.
Speaker 1 (47:00):
I hired somebody on Monday be like Ravens are going
to kill the Steelers, So why would you think that, Yeah,
they can't stop anything right now, So why would you
think all of a sudden they're going to destroy Pittsburgh
who probably can handle Lamar Jackson, you know, I mean
they could figure out Away or Derrick Henry.
Speaker 3 (47:18):
Did you like the Jayden Daniels.
Speaker 4 (47:21):
Uh? When folks tried to and Mike Talblin was like,
all right, he's setting Lamar Jackson up.
Speaker 1 (47:27):
I think put a stop to it. Yeah, really a.
Speaker 4 (47:30):
Right, So Ricky Piersoll into the mix with Sam Franz. Uh,
that's kind of the wing and a prayer. Hey, maybe
there's something here we can look at. Going back to Pittsburgh.
Mike Williams, he's not going to get a lot of
opportunity opportunities, but if you're looking for the home run threat,
and certainly for daily fantasy, he's a guy you want
gonna want to keep an.
Speaker 3 (47:48):
Eye out for week to week. Uh.
Speaker 4 (47:50):
And I think that's it's a short list of really mustads. Otherwise,
you know, you start digging deeper into you know, Gus
Edward came back, and you know the Chargers are going
to want to run the football they're getting better play
out of it. Herbert the last couple of weeks, no
question about it. But the run is still going to
be the identity. So maybe you add him, wondering if
(48:13):
there's there are some weeks where he suddenly becomes the
bell cow once again. Johnston's been in play as well,
with them winging the ball a little bit, but otherwise,
you know, it's the situational football. The obvious must must
pickups necessary aren't really there at this point, thinning out
(48:33):
as we get to week eleven.
Speaker 1 (48:35):
All right, well, just like my playoff hopes are in,
a lot of my fantasy leagues are fitting out. We
will end it there. Our quick little last segment just
took twenty minutes. Hey, but we had.
Speaker 3 (48:45):
Fun get him on, get him over, get him in exactly.
Speaker 1 (48:48):
Yeah, yeah, so this is good times. Glad back with
you guys. Glad the voice is almost back to be
better at our next podcast as well, And that's when
Michael break down the rankings for week eleven of the
National foot Fall League season. Ian, I'll have a streaming
defenses and yeah, I'll give you a little tidbit as well.
So for Ian, Roddy and Mike Carmen. I'm Dan Byer,
(49:09):
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