November 14, 2024 • 40 mins
Mike Harmon and Arnie Spanier recap the Bulls win over the Knicks in a THRILLER at MSG. here were unconfirmed reports that players were upset with Caleb Williams claps back at the rumors that veteran players were upset with him. And Odell Beckham Jr takes a victory lap!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:23):
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Speaker 3 (00:29):
Hey, greetings, and welcome in another beautiful night here Fox
Sports Radio made even sweeter by the shot that wouldn't
go down.
Speaker 4 (00:39):
Trade out one.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
Nicks fan for enough. You heard the big voice guy.
I know Jason Smith tonight. It's our guy, the stinking
genius himself. I already span your sitting in.
Speaker 5 (00:49):
That rolled around the rim? How did that not go in?
It rolled it, It hit like every part of the rim.
I thought it was gonna drop in, and they gave
heart the bogus call.
Speaker 6 (00:59):
That guy on the bulls, the one with.
Speaker 5 (01:01):
The black and white shirt like number one oh three,
too tough, too tough today.
Speaker 6 (01:06):
Wow, look at you, yeah, just look at you.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
Immediately trying to call for investigations on officiating.
Speaker 6 (01:13):
That was a bad call, man.
Speaker 5 (01:15):
You can't call that he'd be if he did touch
barely on a three porter at the end.
Speaker 6 (01:20):
That's ridiculous, he swiped out his head. Ridiculous.
Speaker 3 (01:25):
That kills me, Man Harris, I got to the body,
Arnie Spanier, I know you've it's been a minute since
you've had to worry about it.
Speaker 5 (01:31):
I got ten thousand dollars riding on the New York
Knicks pretty much, you know that.
Speaker 3 (01:35):
Right Well, you've got that fugazy bet you've been putting around.
I think you had someone doctor up a betting slip.
Speaker 5 (01:43):
Fifty dollars brings me back ten thousand if the Knicks
won the championship and my Arizona Wildcats win it in basketball.
Speaker 6 (01:49):
So I'm probab pretty much guaranteed for that right now.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
Well, as soon as you get your Arizona Wildcats back
in the mix, that's that's where you know. Now you're
betting with your heart on both ends, and let's face
at that end badly in pretty marcumstance.
Speaker 6 (02:03):
Pretty much.
Speaker 5 (02:03):
When you do that, you might as well just flush
my money down the toilet.
Speaker 4 (02:07):
Friend, That is often the way it goes.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
We're here live atthetirerac dot com, Fox Sports Radio Studios
Mike Rman alongside Arnie Spanier in for the Ill Jason
Smith probably feeling even a little worse after that bulls
Nick's final. As we get rolling on a big Wednesday night,
you can send your condolences to Smith at.
Speaker 4 (02:26):
How about a Fresca?
Speaker 3 (02:28):
And in case you didn't know, he's Arnie Spaniard, Yeah,
stick and genius one. Find me over at Swollenome this
new thing, this blue sky thing. I actually have my
own name Arnie at Mike Harmon over there. If you're
jumping into a new world of social media content, so
we want to have all our bases covered. My brothers
(02:49):
when I found they found out that you were in
with me a little earlier as they traversed the world
of X, They're like, hey, remind him of his old tags.
Speaker 4 (02:58):
Now, in case you didn't know, I'm already spanning her.
Speaker 5 (03:01):
Yeah, boy, that's like twenty five thirty years ago. You're
making me feel so damn old when you do stuff
like that, it's amazing.
Speaker 6 (03:09):
I've made it, this song, it's incredible.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
Oh you're still kicking along as we watch the NBA. Well,
but you know, look, once upon a time when we'd
be up sleeving cards and pricing cards ahead of a
you know, doing the local baseball card shows. My brothers
and I would be listening to the stinking genius. So
to be able to share the airwaves with you, always
a pleasure, always some great debates. We got lots of
(03:31):
fun topics across the sporting world, a little boxing, a
little of cryptocurrency, the NBA, of course, a lot of
NFL on the docket as well as we get things rolling.
But since we're on the NBA, and that's where it
begins with the Bulls and the Knicks, a lot of
consternation and handwringing about the Emirates Cup. And I'll just
(03:53):
say this, people just want to be angry for the
sake of being angry. I get it, that's our business anymore.
But if this is what it requires, you know, little
spot bonuses for players who are already making a lot
of money to make you know, game twelve of a
regular season matter. And that's what the NBA has decided
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in their brain trust, is going to bring more eyeballs
to the table, more bodies to the activity. Unless you're
a sixer and you just say, hey, I don't do
back to backs. It's in my like rider, like I'm
a seventies concert concert to a whole It's like, hey,
what does he need? He needs six bottles of doctor pepper,
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he needs a bowl of brown M.
Speaker 6 (04:38):
And m's no green em and ms green Eminem's com well.
Speaker 4 (04:40):
I mean, depending on the artists.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
I mean green is the color of money, of course,
so folks get excitable there. But the point just being that,
you know, whatever it takes to get through, if we
can get some marquee matchups here in early November and
some tongues wagging, and maybe the competitive juice is flowing
on a little bit of a different level, no matter
how contrived it may be to say, hey, here's a
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couple of dollars, man, everybody will do something for a
few dollars more, a few dollars more. Hell, Klondike Bar
for twenty five years had people barking like dogs and
barking like seals and sounding like monkeys for a damn
chocolate covered ice cream bar. I mean it was a
marketing ad of genius. So for a few dollars more,
people will do.
Speaker 4 (05:26):
Just about anything.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
Basketball players included, because you get the pride and you know,
a briefcase full of cash.
Speaker 5 (05:33):
Look at the NFL, they'll do the Thursday. Everybody gets
what one hundred thousand dollars. I believe the players do
when they go ahead and play on a Thursday. But Mike,
the whole thing is if this is about more eyes
to the NBA, if this is about that, then the
NBA is going to be in trouble.
Speaker 6 (05:47):
You've heard about.
Speaker 5 (05:48):
How after opening Day the NBA's ratings have not been well.
Interest has been down, and they've talked about it. Charles
Barkley's talked about it, Shack has talked about it. People's
the media is not in a good place with the
NBA right now. You may have to come up with
some drastic changes, kind of like the way Baseball had
the pitch clock kind of way what we've done in
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the NFL.
Speaker 6 (06:11):
If the NFL can.
Speaker 5 (06:13):
Make dramatic rule changes with kickoffs and what you could
do to a wide receiver and a quarterback, the NBA
has to think of something else. You know, we laughed
at Joe Missoula, the head coach of the Boston Celtics,
but he said, maybe we should have fighting back in
the NBA. Well, he also came up with another idea
instead of foul shots. Maybe we should do like hockey word,
it's like a five on four for a minute or
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something to that effect. Something's got to change because the
NBA can't continue like this and continue to fall behind
everybody else.
Speaker 6 (06:43):
I feel like it just is dropping there, Mike.
Speaker 4 (06:46):
No, I think.
Speaker 3 (06:47):
Look, we always try to simplify it, and you know,
those kind of changes are fun anytime we say, hey,
bring fighting back. You know, slippery slope, no question about it.
But when we go into the sport, is all the
fact that I've got a laundry list of stars that
either won't play back to backs on early load management.
(07:07):
Which again that's fine because I understand assets. Look you're
playing for April, May and June, and that's where they
have the biggest problem here is you have guys that
are legitimately hurt and it's a laundry list.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
Right.
Speaker 3 (07:19):
You watch cable movies on cable television, everybody out there globally,
you see this, right, the one movie starts to end,
what do they do? They put it in the picture
and picture and the credits roll through. All those people
that work their asses off on those movies, You're unless
you pause it at the right moment. You're never seeing
that that guy was the key grip or that that
guy stood in for Actor X for three seconds as
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part of a CGI screen grab. You don't see it
because it scrolls through really fast so they can get
to the next product.
Speaker 4 (07:50):
That's where we're at with.
Speaker 3 (07:51):
The number of prominent NBA players that on November thirteenth
are already sitting on their asses for various injuries or
for load management. That's the biggest problem. We could talk
about the three point shot and the fact that most
guys can't hit it. Yeah, esthetically, it's a clown show
at times. When we got the seven footers hanging out
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on the perimeter, a couple of them can.
Speaker 4 (08:14):
Hit shots, most of them cannot.
Speaker 3 (08:16):
Right the fact that most of your star players are
not playing. As much as we root for laundry Arnie,
It's a league that was built on name recognition. It's
a league that was built on the names on the
backs of the jerseys as much as we preach about
the ones on the front. And that's where the NBA
is hurting most right now.
Speaker 5 (08:34):
But unfortunately I can't fix that because I mean, we've
done everything, We've tried to take away back to back games.
We have, of course, have first class travel, you got
private travel out there, you have all the best hotels.
We're talking about five star hotels out there.
Speaker 6 (08:49):
There's nothing they don't get that they want.
Speaker 5 (08:52):
I can't fix that unless, barring you want to cut
the games of what from eighty two to sixty two?
Speaker 4 (08:58):
Right, But nobody's gonna do it because of all the money,
or have.
Speaker 5 (09:01):
A longer playoffs. I mean, that's where the money is. Anyway,
I can't fix it.
Speaker 6 (09:06):
You're gonna have to expand the rosters.
Speaker 5 (09:08):
So maybe some youngsters play on these back to back
nights where the stars don't want to play. But otherwise
you're gonna have to come up with ideas, just like
Major League Baseball came up with the pitch o'clock, just like.
Speaker 6 (09:20):
The NFL, and look at what they did to the kickoffs.
Speaker 5 (09:24):
If NFL could tinker with the rules like that, no
reason why NBA can't make it more interesting. Plus, Mike,
they've already said the big problem is the three point shot.
It makes the NBA boring. I'm not sure I buy
into that. You can't could you imagine going away and
not having the three point shot? It would make the
NBA worse in my opinion.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
Well, I wonder if that tinkering doesn't go to the
Hey you have to deepen the three point shot.
Speaker 6 (09:48):
No, I don't want to see that either. I don't.
Speaker 3 (09:50):
Well, I mean, look, we'd start getting into orny span
your range. Yeah, we start doing that. But legitimately, I mean,
they've got a lot of issues that need to be
parsed through. But that's from the I guess the overall
overarching part of it, though, Arnie, is if the dollars
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are still expanding, it's a lot easier to just shut
the door and say there's nothing wrong here. And a
lot of the things you mentioned in terms of baseball
and football fixes, I don't think I'm being old man,
Get off my lawn. I'm not a huge fan of
most of them. Banning the shift the pitch clock. If
a guy needs to adjust himself like Carlton Fisk after
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every pitch, damn it, let him adjust himself after every pitch,
Or if a guy needs to walk off the mound
because he's getting racked on a little bit, Hey, hey, hey,
you got seven seconds, get your ass back on the mound.
Speaker 4 (10:45):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (10:45):
There's there's the thinking, man's the process, all of that
that goes back a lot of other games that you've
taken away.
Speaker 5 (10:53):
I wanted to say, it's the best thing that ever
happened to baseball. I was very hesitant about the pitch
clock also, but the way it speeds up to a
point where it's not like somebody adjusting themselves or I mean,
and redoing their batting glove after every pitch.
Speaker 6 (11:09):
It's like Sergio Garcia with the backswing there.
Speaker 4 (11:12):
I actually don't get Sergio Garcia. Oh no, no, no.
Speaker 3 (11:16):
I would agree for this though. It makes it a
much more palatable TV experience, certainly right, because a lot
of the model, even if folks bemoan the existence you
say the word soccer or I you know, massage it
a little bit by going football.
Speaker 4 (11:32):
You know folks that.
Speaker 3 (11:33):
Say I don't watch soccer, It's like, well, you've watched
how sports, especially baseball, trying to compartmentalize things into that
time window like a soccer match, where there is a
finite window of get them on, get them over, get
them in. We get some extra time, and every once
in a while there's something crazy that happens to where
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you drift into another half hour window. But for the
most part, it's pretty compartmentalized into that two hour block.
And now back to our regularly scheduled you know this
old house.
Speaker 5 (12:05):
Exactly, and they get it right through and they get
in that two hour block. You're right about that. The
NBA is like a what a two and a half
three hour window there? Sometimes the game is too long, Mike,
I kind of agree with you. You're gonna have to
do something about the fouls. You don't want to turn
into a foul shooting contest. But you know, I enjoyed
the Knicks game tonight. There was a lot of points. Unfortunately,
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the fans are not into it. I don't know what
you're gonna do. They had good ratings the opening night,
but after that, man, it's just not interest is way down,
and you're gonna have to do something. Like they said,
if you do something over and over again and expect
something to change, that's insanity. Well, if you expect the
NBA to change for the better and not do anything
(12:46):
about it, you're just crazy.
Speaker 6 (12:48):
You've got to spruce it up a little bit.
Speaker 3 (12:50):
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Speaker 4 (13:08):
Buying should be. But yeah, already, I mean like a
lot of it.
Speaker 3 (13:12):
We try to throw changes at the wall, and so
long as they're printing cash, they're gonna be reticent to change.
Certainly even bringing in the in season tournament scene as
a well, what are we? What are we doing the
incentivization again, everybody that would walk across the street or
bark like a dog for an extra fiver in their
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paycheck are the ones complaining about overseas games.
Speaker 5 (13:35):
I mean, look what the NFL is doing overseas. It's
a it's a big market for them, to the point
where it's getting How many games do we play overseas now?
Speaker 3 (13:43):
In the NFL eight nine at eight I believe, and
they're talking about it, you know, maybe doubling eventually.
Speaker 6 (13:49):
Yeah, it's it's getting too much. I don't know. Maybe
the NBA is gonna start doing that.
Speaker 5 (13:53):
Maybe the nbations are playing in like small towns like Iowa,
like baseball did like that feel the dreams theme or
or something like that.
Speaker 6 (14:01):
They got to mix up somehow, They gotta do something.
Speaker 3 (14:03):
Get into some gimmick, try and and I think you
know the international game. Folks can bemoan them all they want. We,
for many, many years were subjected to I mean, I
grew up in Chicago, right, I got the Bears at noon,
and then my afternoon game was going to be Dallas
or San Francisco every week, Right, So I grew up
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with an unnatural hate for those two teams. We didn't
have access to all this other stuff. So guess what,
we've been given too many choices. We've be gotten lazy
because it's all been there in front of us, so
us to eat at the trough. So when they take
away a game and put it on in Germany.
Speaker 4 (14:40):
Oh no, oh my god.
Speaker 3 (14:42):
I've got to get up at six o'clock to watch
a football game. Shut up sleep if you don't want
to watch it.
Speaker 6 (14:47):
Well, I already decided.
Speaker 5 (14:48):
I've never get ing enough to see a Giants Jacksonville
game again anyway.
Speaker 4 (14:51):
And now the fact that that's that game.
Speaker 3 (14:53):
For you to make that decision, you were already way
too far gone.
Speaker 5 (14:57):
You're right, that was nine thirty ready up, and I
still said, I'm gonna force myself to go back to
bed before I get up and watch a game like that.
That was absolutely ridiculous. Sooner or later, we're gonna have
to start giving him key matchups. You can't keep them
giving them what the dredge of society there. You gotta
start giving them good teams. So that eventually is gonna happen.
Speaker 3 (15:17):
Categorically untrue because they sell out in a matter of
mere moments, that's true. And as soon as they add
a game in Go Dance Poland, guess who's gonna be
ticket seller or ticket buyer number one? It's gonna be
this guy at Stake and Genius one where you find
Arnie find me over at Swollen Dome.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven
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Speaker 3 (15:44):
Hey, welcome back in Fox Sports Radio Jason Smith Show
with Me Mike Carman. No Jason Smith tonight, So it's
me alongside the stinking genius himself, Arnie.
Speaker 4 (15:54):
Spanier look at that guy.
Speaker 3 (15:57):
You hear him on Sundays alongside Chris pla Plike doing
all sorts of big important college stuff today, and I
know he's always looking out for whatever your next bets
are going to be. To chronicle that did you send
him along the legal pads? And were you up early
working on the legal pads? Scott text me to say
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Jason's ill and I get a text like five minutes later,
here's like fifteen points.
Speaker 4 (16:21):
Yeah, cut down, man.
Speaker 5 (16:23):
As soon as I got the call that I'm coming
in that I'm going to be filling for Jason, I immediately
got out my legal pads, started with the Roman numerals.
I came up with about nineteen of them. So even
a couple of non sports out there.
Speaker 3 (16:36):
So, oh no, we got a veritable potpourri. I mean,
this is a smorgasboard of chaos. Lots no question about it.
Speaker 6 (16:44):
Yeah, lots off, lots going on.
Speaker 3 (16:46):
Well, it's a sweet spot of the schedule, right and
I get right out and everything going going on. We
talked a lot of college basketball yesterday with the Kentucky
and Duke game. We've got basketball right off the jump
where I get to, you know, gloat about the Bulls
pulling off a w against the Knicks.
Speaker 5 (17:02):
You know that doesn't bother just the Knicks are off
to a slow started five and six. I mean one
game doesn't bother me. They were down by so much
they just have not jeled yet though. But you know
what that just means. That just means that's gonna make
him closer to winning a championship because the more that
they're pedestrian, the more that they're average, and the more
the Bucks lose, they'll end up getting Yannis and then
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game over.
Speaker 6 (17:24):
Then that point that just forget me.
Speaker 3 (17:26):
Well, once Giannis gets Doc Rivers fired, everything else all bets.
Speaker 5 (17:29):
Around, no litt, they'll trade him and the Knicks will
end up getting Yannis and then they'll win like three
championships in a row.
Speaker 6 (17:36):
Jason Smith will be in sell.
Speaker 3 (17:37):
Well, no, we we at least know you and Smith
gravitate to the same fantasy land, drawing little pictures of
Giannis in your notebooks in a Knicks uniform.
Speaker 5 (17:48):
If I gonna see Jason Smith at the New York
Knicks Parade celebration this.
Speaker 4 (17:52):
Year, probably not.
Speaker 3 (17:55):
He doesn't leave his house, went given an opportunity to,
But what from his well to mine, because it's the
greatest train wreck going That isn't the Dallas Cowboys, that
is the Chicago Bears and the ongoing chaos, the lack
of offense, and the handwringing going on. Everybody that thought
this was going to be this massive breakthrough and everything
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was going to be brilliant, suddenly the brakes hit in
a big way and leaving the giant skid marks.
Speaker 4 (18:25):
On the highway.
Speaker 3 (18:26):
We'll leave it there, but for Caleb Williams, the struggles.
You know, you and I went back and forth in
terms of the great statistic of passes fifteen plus yards
going back the full fifteen years that he ranks for
sixty eight out of for sixty eight. So we've seen
that the off script and today, you know, everybody starts
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doing their rounds because in Chicago, even if you're not
a member of the eighty five Bears, if you're wearing
a Bears uniform, you get to do a radio show,
you get to do a TV appearance, you probably have
your own podcast. All of those things to say, and
it's not to diminish or denigrate any one of those forms.
Certainly we work in all of them. Arnie the podcast
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goes up after we're done here tonight. Of course, you
find them wherever you get your audio. We appreciate you
and love you forever. More promos to come as the
night goes on. But the Bears, one after another, tried
to walk back some of the reporting that went down
early in the week after Shane Waldron is released of
his duties as the offensive coordinator, and we move forward
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with Matt Eberflus having to take the podium and try
to do a little bit of a tap dance. You know,
I don't know if you've ever seen the Broadway musical
or the movie Chicago.
Speaker 6 (19:46):
When above my head there, Okay, well, I.
Speaker 3 (19:48):
Mean there's a great, great tap dance done by the lawyer,
basically every stereotype of the fast talking, loose playing with
the law lawyer trying to get over and well you
tap dance and you know, kind of a Vegas misdirection
kind of thing.
Speaker 4 (20:07):
You're probably more.
Speaker 3 (20:08):
Likely to go but go ahead, yeah, oh well, you know,
whenever you get Gregory Hines, wow that now we're going
back to the early ladies alongside here.
Speaker 4 (20:19):
But but just the idea of all right.
Speaker 3 (20:21):
I'm not going to answer any questions straight on obliquely
about you know, the decision making and the process to
where they come to this decision. You're averaging nine points
a game list list. You've got a turnstyle offensive line,
regardless of what everybody's Bible Pro Football Focus says.
Speaker 7 (20:41):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (20:41):
And I'd love to sit down again.
Speaker 3 (20:42):
I said this on Monday Show that I'd love to
sit down with a couple of offensive linemen and quarterbacks
and then we could assess blame for the thirty eight
sacks that Williams has taken, because a lot of them
are on him holding the ball too long, missing you know,
the quick outs, et cetera. So you know, he certainly
deserves a lot of blame. But some of the scheme's
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concept and what seems obvious to you, me and everybody
watching when you're playing a team like the Patriots who
have been devoid of toughness up front in terms of
stopping a run game and you're shuffling your offensive line
they were missing several starters on Sunday to where you
don't get the run game going right, Dancing bears and
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pass blocking a lot harder than hey move forward and
hit that guy in the gap.
Speaker 6 (21:29):
No, you know, Mike A couple things on Call Williams.
Speaker 5 (21:32):
First of all, everybody who thought that this guy was
already a can't miss Hall of Famer, it couldn't be
further from the truth. I'm not gonna say he's a boss.
We're still way too early into this process. But the
show is today, and he couldn't look any worse than
I imagine the OFFENSI looks staged that. If you want
to blame somebody, let's blame a third on Caleb, a
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third on the offensive line, then maybe a third on
the coaching. Okay, I'm willing to do something like that,
but let's be honest. He doesn't look good. The stats
show he doesn't look good. They went out of their
way and they added people in the offseason, did they not?
When the head got swift? They got themselves some running back.
I thought they had bolstered the offensive line.
Speaker 6 (22:13):
You gotta throw the damn ball away.
Speaker 5 (22:15):
He doesn't look good, and I don't know if the
team has really got his back.
Speaker 6 (22:19):
To be honest with you, I don't know what's going
on there.
Speaker 5 (22:21):
Would he be a whole lot better somewhere else? Not
sure he would be a whole lot better somewhere else.
I got some big red flags. I argued with Chris
Plank about this many times. I said, Man, you better
pump the brakes on this guy. And I know he's
in Chicago, but man, Mike, he just looks below pedestrian.
He doesn't scare me at all. I just tell you,
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I'd blitz him like crazy. He just holds on way
too long. I don't know how this is going to
turn out, to be honest with you, but surely doesn't
seem it's gonna end up him being.
Speaker 6 (22:50):
Like it all pro or anything like that.
Speaker 3 (22:52):
Well, it's the latest in a long line of Bear's decisions,
going back to as chronicled and predicted that Eberflu's keep
his job when everybody had him fired. And it's like
why because he still had a contract. It's Chicago. That's
what those teams do. They don't give you a giant
check to go away. They just don't. So it's the.
Speaker 6 (23:13):
Is it all his fault though, I mean you know
it still No, No.
Speaker 4 (23:16):
It's part of it. It's part of it. But if
you're going to bring in a shiny.
Speaker 3 (23:21):
New toy, the quarterback of Caleb Williams and you guys
surround him with wide receivers and Andre Swift and all
of this stuff. You got to make sure the guts
are still good right offensive line. You cut Nate Davis today,
guy that you signed for three years thirty million dollars.
Speaker 6 (23:39):
And that was a mistake. But this just did.
Speaker 5 (23:41):
Everybody has injuries. Mike he got overcome, next guy cors
But again, the point is the infrastructure's bad year. Head
coach who you've already had some questions of how good
a head coach he is now was it? Were they
fooled by the back end of the season last year?
Absolutely they played better football down the stretch. Montees Sweat
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comes over in the trade after a couple of coaches
go missing that we still don't know. I've still I
hold up a sign saying where the hell's Alan Williams
at least once a week. Remember he was the defensive
coordinator that went away under curious circumstances, never to be
heard from again. Bears have never addressed any of that,
the amount of personnel and coaches that they've gone through,
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like there's been no accountability to that end.
Speaker 4 (24:27):
But you bring in.
Speaker 3 (24:29):
Caleb Williams and a guy in Shane Waldron that I
don't know who you talk to in terms of bringing
him in to run your offense. That was going to
sell you that, oh yeah, this is gonna work. Right,
No former players, right, it's.
Speaker 4 (24:44):
A terrible hire. It wasn't underneath a bad head coach.
Speaker 6 (24:48):
I watch you to know.
Speaker 5 (24:49):
So though, half the coaches in the NFL are wanted
fired by their fan base. You understand Philadelphia, they want
Serreatti fire. Look what that guy's has done for Philadelphia,
the one McDaniel fight. There's so many coaches that are
on the hot seat with their fan base.
Speaker 6 (25:05):
They're not even funny. There's a lot of bad teams
in the NFL. Mike, look at what's going on right now.
Speaker 3 (25:10):
But in terms of resets already, when you bring in
and you're going to change the tone, the tenor of
a squad, having the defensive coach who's.
Speaker 4 (25:22):
Already imbattled, I think that's fair to say.
Speaker 3 (25:24):
With eber Flus coming back off of the year, they
had that that he was already a guy that most
were ready to turn the page one. Look, I'm not
in the business of calling for guys head, but I'm
a pragmatist when it comes down to it of, all right,
what's the next direction for a squad? And for the Bears,
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it was we're going offensive. And so you've got a
defensive head coach and you bring in an offensive coordinator
that really didn't have a lot of votes of confidence too.
It's like, all right, let's see what happens and a
guy in campib and I'm a big believer this. So
this just goes down to the brass tax of it all.
If the guy's not ready, he doesn't have to play.
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I don't care if he's drafted number one, number two,
number four, number five, because in the end, your job
is to develop that quarterback into a serviceable well no
way better now.
Speaker 6 (26:20):
I'm sorry to go up here, but that's the question.
Speaker 5 (26:22):
Did you see that a couple of weeks ago where
people in the college game were saying the quarterbacks, if
you don't start two years in the college game, we
recommend that you don't go to the NFL. But the
NFL doesn't go ahead and develop quarterbacks. You just have
to be ready to come in and play. I don't
think the NFL does do a very good job of
developing rookie quarterbacks.
Speaker 6 (26:42):
Mike, nobody do a horrible, Joe.
Speaker 3 (26:43):
But that's the point, right is, if you don't have
the requisite number of starts in college to where you
have tested and battle tested what we'll talk about the
Colts going back to Anthony Richardson, and that's one of
the things. But one of the things sliding in the
background of this, and we got a little bit of
promo at Fox orts Radio if you go on x
something that Smith and I were talking about last night,
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the reports that veteran players were going in and saying, hey,
we want Tyson Bagen And my argument.
Speaker 6 (27:10):
There is is crazy.
Speaker 4 (27:12):
Well, but you watched.
Speaker 3 (27:13):
Him operate in the games he did last year, right,
You ran a consistent timed offense. Caleb Williams does a
lot of stuff improvisationally right where he holds onto the
ball a ton. So if you're a guy that hey,
I'm gonna run an eight yard in, I'm gonna run
an eight yard out and turn and the ball should
be there, Caleb Williams is generally not gonna be that
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guy for you.
Speaker 6 (27:35):
What does that show you?
Speaker 4 (27:36):
Though?
Speaker 5 (27:36):
When his own players don't want him, it shows you
it's Caleb Williams fault. It's not the coaching fault. As
much as we want to make it out to be,
it's not.
Speaker 6 (27:45):
The play calling. A lot of it's gonna be on
Caleb Williams.
Speaker 5 (27:48):
Otherwise the players would be go to the coach and say, hey,
you got to open it up. You gotta let this
guy do this, or let him throw or do that
or do this. But they wanted him gone. They want
him gone for a guy that what did he play
in a mural football?
Speaker 6 (28:01):
I mean, my goodness, man, it's crazy.
Speaker 3 (28:04):
Well, part of that is all rumor, conjecture, speculation. Here's
the response earlier today, we talked about it.
Speaker 8 (28:11):
You know, they're I think they got I got full
support from them. I've gotten text or calls or people
coming up to me, you know, with this situation that
just happened, coming up to me and saying we got
you back, Uh, we're with you. You know, things like that,
and and and and let's go. That kind of kind
(28:32):
of mindset and attitude has been what it's what it's
been this past you know, this past couple of days,
and uh, that's that's that's kind of what it's only been.
Speaker 4 (28:44):
So there it is.
Speaker 3 (28:44):
I mean, it didn't convincing, but there were a number
of veteran players, Cold Comet and others that that you know,
tried to debunk that story. But you know, just suppose
for a moment that it's it's in passing the conversation
of hey, things would be you know, Crisper at her time,
And it's not that they're throwing Caleb Williams away. It's
where we're at in week nine, Week ten, where there's
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still a door and a possibility to be a playoff team,
where your offense has suddenly gone into the toilet after
several weeks of wishing, wanting, hoping that you were actually
a contending squad.
Speaker 5 (29:18):
But I don't understand why you have to replace the quarterback.
Why don't you just do different play calling? Why don't
you just mix it up a little bit?
Speaker 3 (29:25):
Well, and that's where they're going to in theory, and
we'll see how that plays out as they get back
onto the field later on this week. But what happens
when things are burning, you grab what you can and
you get out of the building.
Speaker 4 (29:38):
And that's what we're watching in.
Speaker 3 (29:40):
Chicago right now, is everything is burning after three straight
games of disasters. Going back to look as soon as
Zebra Flu started saying the call before the hail Mary
didn't matter. Any good will he had with any media
member or fan in Chicago was done because the logic
there failed on a million levels. When you saw Jadon Daniels,
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even with the extra fifteen yards, couldn't get the ball
in the end zone, Why was you telling me that
it didn't matter? Is just one of the dumber things
that you can say.
Speaker 5 (30:10):
You gotta take responsibilities sometimes when they do those post
game conferences, they're not thinking straight, and that that was
a big problem there. I don't know why you decided
to go in that direction.
Speaker 3 (30:19):
Well what he kept saying that days and weeks later, Arnie,
That's the thing.
Speaker 4 (30:23):
It has not changed.
Speaker 3 (30:24):
The lack of accountability point right, The lack of accountability
of you know, on second thought, like just say you're wrong.
It's like radio hosts. If you get something wrong, don't say,
hey this change that Jaywater. Your opinion was wrong and
you were proven wrong, just be done with it. So,
if you have any man culplas you'd like to give
right now from this Sunday shows, Arnie.
Speaker 5 (30:43):
Yeah, maybe my bet between the Knicks and my Arizona Wildcats.
Speaker 3 (30:47):
I'm looking at anything you want to throw out there
as we got to be Alive from the diiraq dot
Com Fox Sports Radio Studios. Hey, coming up next, we're
gonna talk about guys betting on themselves in a very
unique way and now takeing their victory laps. But in
the interim, in this moment, we go to our guy
in our news desk. It's our guy, Isaac Loewencron.
Speaker 4 (31:08):
What's up?
Speaker 6 (31:08):
I love Mike and Ardi.
Speaker 7 (31:09):
San Antonio Spurs' second year sensation, Victor Wembinyama has just
completed the first fifty point game of his career in
a one to thirty nine one to thirty victory over
the Washington Wizards. He scored the fifty points in thirty
two minutes, including eight three pointers. Weban Yama, at twenty
years of age, the fourth youngest player in NBA history
with a fifty point game, the others Brandon Jennings, Lebron James,
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and Devin Booker. The Milwaukee Bucks and Detroit Pistons have
just started overtime tied at one to eleven, as Detroit's
Ron Holland moments ago missed two free throws with one
second left in the fourth quarter. The Los Angeles Lakers
Lee the Memphis Grizzlies after one thirty eight to twenty six. Earlier,
the Cleveland Cavaliers became the sixth team in NBA history
(31:53):
to open a season thirteen to zero with a one
to fourteen to one oh six win at Philadelphia. The
Chicago Bulls over the New York Knicks and Madison Square
Garden won twenty four to one twenty three. Chicago's Kobe
White made three free throws to win it with three
seconds left. Jalen Brunson then missed a jumper in and
out at the buzzer. Finally, in college Hoops Mike and
(32:14):
Arney Fox Sports Radios, Doug Gottlieb won his first game
as the new head coach of Wisconsin Brando Phoenix victorious
at Western Illinois eighty seven seventy three, nine thirty five
points and eighty three pointers from Anthony Roy. Let's take
you into the winning locker room as Doug's players doused
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him with the gatorade bucket to commemorate his first win. Ironically,
the crew around here does the same thing. After another
successful edition of the Doug Gottlieb Show.
Speaker 6 (32:49):
Here back to you.
Speaker 3 (32:50):
Guys, There you go, had Isaac Lowan krownn Were you
find Doug? How about that big first half they were
up twenty one at Halftimes hosted from there.
Speaker 5 (32:58):
I was paid attention to and I was looking to
see if they were gonna get the win tonight.
Speaker 4 (33:01):
I bet it.
Speaker 6 (33:02):
No, I didn't bet the gave.
Speaker 5 (33:03):
I didn't do that, but I saw that they were
a slight underdog to Weston, Illinois. Good for dog, you know,
I know he's putting his heart into this. It's good
to see him get the win. I know he's just
enjoying the heck out of this. Actually, Bertie Fratto was
up there and got me a Wisconsin Green Bay sweatshirt
that I got, So I'm rooting for Doug.
Speaker 6 (33:22):
Hopefully he has a good year.
Speaker 3 (33:23):
There you go, Phoenix take down the leather Necks. Fourteen
point victory. Congratulations are our guy, Doug Gottlieb. Yeah, getting
that first one under his belt. Now we see how
the season proceeds from there. Certainly hard on his sleeve.
Doug is love of coaching and working to this, so
I'm excited to hear and we'll wait for the post
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game to hear his comments as well. He's already spander
in for Jason Smith. I'm Mike Carmon coming out next.
Couple of NFL players taking victory laps for a reason
you probably can't predict.
Speaker 2 (33:55):
We'll do that next year on Fox. Be sure to
catch live editions of The Jason Smith's Show with Mike
harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern seven pm Pacific.
Speaker 3 (34:05):
Hey, welcome back in Fox Sports or Radio Jason Smith
Show with Me Mike harmt Arnie span'er in for Jason
tonight as we traverse the sporting universe, get a little
bit on the NBA, a little bit in the NFL,
but some victory laps being taken by some NFL players.
Speaker 4 (34:25):
Arnie Spaniard controversial in the moment.
Speaker 3 (34:27):
Guys that you know it's the I hate to say
I told you so, but from a different standpoint. Russell
o'coung and Odell Beckham Junior two guys standing up and saying, hey,
remember when y'all called me idiots when I took my
bonuses and contract money and bitcoin and they're given the
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double middle bird. As you know, cryptocurrency the last week
or so has taken off Bitcoin and ethereum and some
of the other coins that are out there I have
gone and taking some dramatically.
Speaker 5 (35:02):
Trevor Loard's too, Remember that a couple of years ago
he took a big chuck get to start off.
Speaker 3 (35:06):
Well, I don't see he's hurt, so I don't think
he's been typing and clicking. He clicking and saying clapping
back at people. But like Russell o'coon right the report
he took that six point five million, it's now worth
about forty five Wow, Like Odell Beckham Junior saying, well,
how dumb am I now? And he had the screenshot
when bitcoin reached ninety two thousand dollars. Now, I'm not saying, hey,
(35:30):
put all your money in that. Certainly, you know, past
performance not indicative of future returns, risk reward, all those things.
But at the time I argued with Jason about it
a bunch and look, you can be in on it
or no in on it for any type of class
of investment. ARNI him in whatever you do with your money,
(35:51):
and you're trying to grow it, whether you want to
buy a house, whether you invest in the stock market
however alternate, and you buy you know, old coins or
baseball cards or whatever else, whatever you're into, right, it's
the risk reward proposition. And these guys said, well, I
have enough money over here, give me a percentage of
it over here, and we'll see what happens.
Speaker 6 (36:12):
No, Greg, Greg, they were.
Speaker 3 (36:13):
All called dopes at the time, going well, this is
all made up. It's like, well, it's all made up.
Speaker 6 (36:18):
You know, it's amazing.
Speaker 5 (36:21):
You know, you put that money in there and you
forget about it because you're right. They're all set in
another way, so they're like, I don't care about this
one or two million, and we'll see what it turns into.
I can't believe six million turned into forty five. Do
you know the story about Junior Bridgeman, remember the old
Milwaukee Bucks Guard old school? Sure, yep, I want to
tell this real quick. I don't know if you know
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the story about him.
Speaker 6 (36:43):
He was good.
Speaker 5 (36:44):
In his last year in the NBA, was making three
hundred and fifty thousand dollars. Went to his agent said
I'm going to be broke after this year and I'm
not going to be able to sign with the team.
Speaker 6 (36:52):
You got to help me.
Speaker 5 (36:53):
Here's three hundred and fifty thousand dollars by one year salary.
Please help me because I'm going to be broke. He
had an believable agent. His agent made him go working
Wendy's in the off season and then invested his money
in fast food chains.
Speaker 6 (37:07):
Jujia Bridgeman went on to be a billionaire.
Speaker 5 (37:09):
He's like second to Michael Jordan in money earned of
X sports athletes.
Speaker 6 (37:14):
It's tremendous.
Speaker 5 (37:15):
He went up to buy Chili's, like fifty or sixty
Chilis Wendy's.
Speaker 6 (37:20):
I think he ended up buying television networks.
Speaker 4 (37:23):
Now.
Speaker 5 (37:23):
It is amazing what he did with the three hundred
and fifty thousand dollars.
Speaker 6 (37:27):
Talk about that as an investment. How about that.
Speaker 5 (37:29):
It's a great story, Mike we You really should check
into its unbelievable.
Speaker 3 (37:33):
Well, but that's the thing, like we hear about the
guys where there are failures and they were hoodwinked by
by business managers or factors, Like there's plenty of guys
of folks circling around that'll drain your bank accounts. Oh,
this could have gone bust and then been like, well,
all right, I'm out those millions, and maybe it comes
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back to haunt him down the road.
Speaker 5 (37:55):
But you didn't think it was gonna go like that though,
it wasn't gonna go all the way south where you
would have no money.
Speaker 6 (38:00):
You didn't think like that is.
Speaker 4 (38:01):
Well did I know?
Speaker 3 (38:02):
But some thought it was, you know, full on right,
the NFT marketplace keep on going down where people put
money in, like has it gone to zero?
Speaker 4 (38:14):
Most of it?
Speaker 3 (38:14):
Know a lot of it, some of it, you know,
depending on what part of the marketplace you're looking at. Yeah,
you might have lost your ass, but you know what,
you might have done that in a million other different
ways when money.
Speaker 4 (38:27):
Invested as well.
Speaker 3 (38:28):
Right, you pick a stock that tanks, a company that
goes bad, you know, their management gets caught with their
hand in the cookie jar, all those things. There's plenty
of ways that you can lose your money, downturns in
the market and whatever.
Speaker 4 (38:42):
As it goes.
Speaker 3 (38:43):
But you know, for these guys, you know, they took
a shot on something a bit unknown, a little bit
of you know, higher risk, higher volatility. And that's that's
always the fun thing. When you get the notice from
whatever you've got invested and said you may be over
aggressive here, you may be invested to aggressive?
Speaker 6 (39:00):
Are you not a couple? Because they have so much
money you thought more making the public.
Speaker 3 (39:07):
Yeah, well, I mean, look, when if they'd lost it all,
they probably wouldn't have been as chesty about it.
Speaker 6 (39:13):
Right. What's remember those coin what's that as that's.
Speaker 4 (39:16):
Still it's like forty three cents right now.
Speaker 3 (39:18):
So that's well, that's one that Elon had interest in,
So that got.
Speaker 4 (39:22):
Some juice to it.
Speaker 3 (39:23):
But like all of those things, it's it's a ride
it out if you can't. If you can afford to
play in those marketplaces, you can. For these particular players,
they took a lot of incoming from people saying they
were throwing their money away and how dare you? And
it's like, well, it's not your money, uh too, it's
you know, time, time will tell good, bad or ugly
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in all of those investments, and maybe they've now cashed out.
Speaker 4 (39:48):
I go back your.
Speaker 6 (39:49):
Time with ten thousand to putting that my friend. Oh
my goodness.
Speaker 3 (39:52):
But like everything else, Netflix and all of these other companies,
you can have the same thing. Go back to Apple
when Apple was enough at stick a genius one where
you find Arnie in the Twitter verse, find me over
at swollen Dome coming out next.
Speaker 4 (40:06):
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Speaker 3 (00:29):
Hey, greetings, and welcome in another beautiful night here Fox
Sports Radio made even sweeter by the shot that wouldn't
go down.
Speaker 4 (00:39):
Trade out one.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
Nicks fan for enough. You heard the big voice guy.
I know Jason Smith tonight. It's our guy, the stinking
genius himself. I already span your sitting in.
Speaker 5 (00:49):
That rolled around the rim? How did that not go in?
It rolled it, It hit like every part of the rim.
I thought it was gonna drop in, and they gave
heart the bogus call.
Speaker 6 (00:59):
That guy on the bulls, the one with.
Speaker 5 (01:01):
The black and white shirt like number one oh three,
too tough, too tough today.
Speaker 6 (01:06):
Wow, look at you, yeah, just look at you.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
Immediately trying to call for investigations on officiating.
Speaker 6 (01:13):
That was a bad call, man.
Speaker 5 (01:15):
You can't call that he'd be if he did touch
barely on a three porter at the end.
Speaker 6 (01:20):
That's ridiculous, he swiped out his head. Ridiculous.
Speaker 3 (01:25):
That kills me, Man Harris, I got to the body,
Arnie Spanier, I know you've it's been a minute since
you've had to worry about it.
Speaker 5 (01:31):
I got ten thousand dollars riding on the New York
Knicks pretty much, you know that.
Speaker 3 (01:35):
Right Well, you've got that fugazy bet you've been putting around.
I think you had someone doctor up a betting slip.
Speaker 5 (01:43):
Fifty dollars brings me back ten thousand if the Knicks
won the championship and my Arizona Wildcats win it in basketball.
Speaker 6 (01:49):
So I'm probab pretty much guaranteed for that right now.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
Well, as soon as you get your Arizona Wildcats back
in the mix, that's that's where you know. Now you're
betting with your heart on both ends, and let's face
at that end badly in pretty marcumstance.
Speaker 6 (02:03):
Pretty much.
Speaker 5 (02:03):
When you do that, you might as well just flush
my money down the toilet.
Speaker 4 (02:07):
Friend, That is often the way it goes.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
We're here live atthetirerac dot com, Fox Sports Radio Studios
Mike Rman alongside Arnie Spanier in for the Ill Jason
Smith probably feeling even a little worse after that bulls
Nick's final. As we get rolling on a big Wednesday night,
you can send your condolences to Smith at.
Speaker 4 (02:26):
How about a Fresca?
Speaker 3 (02:28):
And in case you didn't know, he's Arnie Spaniard, Yeah,
stick and genius one. Find me over at Swollenome this
new thing, this blue sky thing. I actually have my
own name Arnie at Mike Harmon over there. If you're
jumping into a new world of social media content, so
we want to have all our bases covered. My brothers
(02:49):
when I found they found out that you were in
with me a little earlier as they traversed the world
of X, They're like, hey, remind him of his old tags.
Speaker 4 (02:58):
Now, in case you didn't know, I'm already spanning her.
Speaker 5 (03:01):
Yeah, boy, that's like twenty five thirty years ago. You're
making me feel so damn old when you do stuff
like that, it's amazing.
Speaker 6 (03:09):
I've made it, this song, it's incredible.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
Oh you're still kicking along as we watch the NBA. Well,
but you know, look, once upon a time when we'd
be up sleeving cards and pricing cards ahead of a
you know, doing the local baseball card shows. My brothers
and I would be listening to the stinking genius. So
to be able to share the airwaves with you, always
a pleasure, always some great debates. We got lots of
(03:31):
fun topics across the sporting world, a little boxing, a
little of cryptocurrency, the NBA, of course, a lot of
NFL on the docket as well as we get things rolling.
But since we're on the NBA, and that's where it
begins with the Bulls and the Knicks, a lot of
consternation and handwringing about the Emirates Cup. And I'll just
(03:53):
say this, people just want to be angry for the
sake of being angry. I get it, that's our business anymore.
But if this is what it requires, you know, little
spot bonuses for players who are already making a lot
of money to make you know, game twelve of a
regular season matter. And that's what the NBA has decided
(04:14):
in their brain trust, is going to bring more eyeballs
to the table, more bodies to the activity. Unless you're
a sixer and you just say, hey, I don't do
back to backs. It's in my like rider, like I'm
a seventies concert concert to a whole It's like, hey,
what does he need? He needs six bottles of doctor pepper,
(04:35):
he needs a bowl of brown M.
Speaker 6 (04:38):
And m's no green em and ms green Eminem's com well.
Speaker 4 (04:40):
I mean, depending on the artists.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
I mean green is the color of money, of course,
so folks get excitable there. But the point just being that,
you know, whatever it takes to get through, if we
can get some marquee matchups here in early November and
some tongues wagging, and maybe the competitive juice is flowing
on a little bit of a different level, no matter
how contrived it may be to say, hey, here's a
(05:05):
couple of dollars, man, everybody will do something for a
few dollars more, a few dollars more. Hell, Klondike Bar
for twenty five years had people barking like dogs and
barking like seals and sounding like monkeys for a damn
chocolate covered ice cream bar. I mean it was a
marketing ad of genius. So for a few dollars more,
people will do.
Speaker 4 (05:26):
Just about anything.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
Basketball players included, because you get the pride and you know,
a briefcase full of cash.
Speaker 5 (05:33):
Look at the NFL, they'll do the Thursday. Everybody gets
what one hundred thousand dollars. I believe the players do
when they go ahead and play on a Thursday. But Mike,
the whole thing is if this is about more eyes
to the NBA, if this is about that, then the
NBA is going to be in trouble.
Speaker 6 (05:47):
You've heard about.
Speaker 5 (05:48):
How after opening Day the NBA's ratings have not been well.
Interest has been down, and they've talked about it. Charles
Barkley's talked about it, Shack has talked about it. People's
the media is not in a good place with the
NBA right now. You may have to come up with
some drastic changes, kind of like the way Baseball had
the pitch clock kind of way what we've done in
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the NFL.
Speaker 6 (06:11):
If the NFL can.
Speaker 5 (06:13):
Make dramatic rule changes with kickoffs and what you could
do to a wide receiver and a quarterback, the NBA
has to think of something else. You know, we laughed
at Joe Missoula, the head coach of the Boston Celtics,
but he said, maybe we should have fighting back in
the NBA. Well, he also came up with another idea
instead of foul shots. Maybe we should do like hockey word,
it's like a five on four for a minute or
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something to that effect. Something's got to change because the
NBA can't continue like this and continue to fall behind
everybody else.
Speaker 6 (06:43):
I feel like it just is dropping there, Mike.
Speaker 4 (06:46):
No, I think.
Speaker 3 (06:47):
Look, we always try to simplify it, and you know,
those kind of changes are fun anytime we say, hey,
bring fighting back. You know, slippery slope, no question about it.
But when we go into the sport, is all the
fact that I've got a laundry list of stars that
either won't play back to backs on early load management.
(07:07):
Which again that's fine because I understand assets. Look you're
playing for April, May and June, and that's where they
have the biggest problem here is you have guys that
are legitimately hurt and it's a laundry list.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
Right.
Speaker 3 (07:19):
You watch cable movies on cable television, everybody out there globally,
you see this, right, the one movie starts to end,
what do they do? They put it in the picture
and picture and the credits roll through. All those people
that work their asses off on those movies, You're unless
you pause it at the right moment. You're never seeing
that that guy was the key grip or that that
guy stood in for Actor X for three seconds as
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part of a CGI screen grab. You don't see it
because it scrolls through really fast so they can get
to the next product.
Speaker 4 (07:50):
That's where we're at with.
Speaker 3 (07:51):
The number of prominent NBA players that on November thirteenth
are already sitting on their asses for various injuries or
for load management. That's the biggest problem. We could talk
about the three point shot and the fact that most
guys can't hit it. Yeah, esthetically, it's a clown show
at times. When we got the seven footers hanging out
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on the perimeter, a couple of them can.
Speaker 4 (08:14):
Hit shots, most of them cannot.
Speaker 3 (08:16):
Right the fact that most of your star players are
not playing. As much as we root for laundry Arnie,
It's a league that was built on name recognition. It's
a league that was built on the names on the
backs of the jerseys as much as we preach about
the ones on the front. And that's where the NBA
is hurting most right now.
Speaker 5 (08:34):
But unfortunately I can't fix that because I mean, we've
done everything, We've tried to take away back to back games.
We have, of course, have first class travel, you got
private travel out there, you have all the best hotels.
We're talking about five star hotels out there.
Speaker 6 (08:49):
There's nothing they don't get that they want.
Speaker 5 (08:52):
I can't fix that unless, barring you want to cut
the games of what from eighty two to sixty two?
Speaker 4 (08:58):
Right, But nobody's gonna do it because of all the money,
or have.
Speaker 5 (09:01):
A longer playoffs. I mean, that's where the money is. Anyway,
I can't fix it.
Speaker 6 (09:06):
You're gonna have to expand the rosters.
Speaker 5 (09:08):
So maybe some youngsters play on these back to back
nights where the stars don't want to play. But otherwise
you're gonna have to come up with ideas, just like
Major League Baseball came up with the pitch o'clock, just like.
Speaker 6 (09:20):
The NFL, and look at what they did to the kickoffs.
Speaker 5 (09:24):
If NFL could tinker with the rules like that, no
reason why NBA can't make it more interesting. Plus, Mike,
they've already said the big problem is the three point shot.
It makes the NBA boring. I'm not sure I buy
into that. You can't could you imagine going away and
not having the three point shot? It would make the
NBA worse in my opinion.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
Well, I wonder if that tinkering doesn't go to the
Hey you have to deepen the three point shot.
Speaker 6 (09:48):
No, I don't want to see that either. I don't.
Speaker 3 (09:50):
Well, I mean, look, we'd start getting into orny span
your range. Yeah, we start doing that. But legitimately, I mean,
they've got a lot of issues that need to be
parsed through. But that's from the I guess the overall
overarching part of it, though, Arnie, is if the dollars
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are still expanding, it's a lot easier to just shut
the door and say there's nothing wrong here. And a
lot of the things you mentioned in terms of baseball
and football fixes, I don't think I'm being old man,
Get off my lawn. I'm not a huge fan of
most of them. Banning the shift the pitch clock. If
a guy needs to adjust himself like Carlton Fisk after
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every pitch, damn it, let him adjust himself after every pitch,
Or if a guy needs to walk off the mound
because he's getting racked on a little bit, Hey, hey, hey,
you got seven seconds, get your ass back on the mound.
Speaker 4 (10:45):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (10:45):
There's there's the thinking, man's the process, all of that
that goes back a lot of other games that you've
taken away.
Speaker 5 (10:53):
I wanted to say, it's the best thing that ever
happened to baseball. I was very hesitant about the pitch
clock also, but the way it speeds up to a
point where it's not like somebody adjusting themselves or I mean,
and redoing their batting glove after every pitch.
Speaker 6 (11:09):
It's like Sergio Garcia with the backswing there.
Speaker 4 (11:12):
I actually don't get Sergio Garcia. Oh no, no, no.
Speaker 3 (11:16):
I would agree for this though. It makes it a
much more palatable TV experience, certainly right, because a lot
of the model, even if folks bemoan the existence you
say the word soccer or I you know, massage it
a little bit by going football.
Speaker 4 (11:32):
You know folks that.
Speaker 3 (11:33):
Say I don't watch soccer, It's like, well, you've watched
how sports, especially baseball, trying to compartmentalize things into that
time window like a soccer match, where there is a
finite window of get them on, get them over, get
them in. We get some extra time, and every once
in a while there's something crazy that happens to where
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you drift into another half hour window. But for the
most part, it's pretty compartmentalized into that two hour block.
And now back to our regularly scheduled you know this
old house.
Speaker 5 (12:05):
Exactly, and they get it right through and they get
in that two hour block. You're right about that. The
NBA is like a what a two and a half
three hour window there? Sometimes the game is too long, Mike,
I kind of agree with you. You're gonna have to
do something about the fouls. You don't want to turn
into a foul shooting contest. But you know, I enjoyed
the Knicks game tonight. There was a lot of points. Unfortunately,
(12:25):
the fans are not into it. I don't know what
you're gonna do. They had good ratings the opening night,
but after that, man, it's just not interest is way down,
and you're gonna have to do something. Like they said,
if you do something over and over again and expect
something to change, that's insanity. Well, if you expect the
NBA to change for the better and not do anything
(12:46):
about it, you're just crazy.
Speaker 6 (12:48):
You've got to spruce it up a little bit.
Speaker 3 (12:50):
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Speaker 4 (13:08):
Buying should be. But yeah, already, I mean like a
lot of it.
Speaker 3 (13:12):
We try to throw changes at the wall, and so
long as they're printing cash, they're gonna be reticent to change.
Certainly even bringing in the in season tournament scene as
a well, what are we? What are we doing the
incentivization again, everybody that would walk across the street or
bark like a dog for an extra fiver in their
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paycheck are the ones complaining about overseas games.
Speaker 5 (13:35):
I mean, look what the NFL is doing overseas. It's
a it's a big market for them, to the point
where it's getting How many games do we play overseas now?
Speaker 3 (13:43):
In the NFL eight nine at eight I believe, and
they're talking about it, you know, maybe doubling eventually.
Speaker 6 (13:49):
Yeah, it's it's getting too much. I don't know. Maybe
the NBA is gonna start doing that.
Speaker 5 (13:53):
Maybe the nbations are playing in like small towns like Iowa,
like baseball did like that feel the dreams theme or
or something like that.
Speaker 6 (14:01):
They got to mix up somehow, They gotta do something.
Speaker 3 (14:03):
Get into some gimmick, try and and I think you
know the international game. Folks can bemoan them all they want. We,
for many, many years were subjected to I mean, I
grew up in Chicago, right, I got the Bears at noon,
and then my afternoon game was going to be Dallas
or San Francisco every week, Right, So I grew up
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with an unnatural hate for those two teams. We didn't
have access to all this other stuff. So guess what,
we've been given too many choices. We've be gotten lazy
because it's all been there in front of us, so
us to eat at the trough. So when they take
away a game and put it on in Germany.
Speaker 4 (14:40):
Oh no, oh my god.
Speaker 3 (14:42):
I've got to get up at six o'clock to watch
a football game. Shut up sleep if you don't want
to watch it.
Speaker 6 (14:47):
Well, I already decided.
Speaker 5 (14:48):
I've never get ing enough to see a Giants Jacksonville
game again anyway.
Speaker 4 (14:51):
And now the fact that that's that game.
Speaker 3 (14:53):
For you to make that decision, you were already way
too far gone.
Speaker 5 (14:57):
You're right, that was nine thirty ready up, and I
still said, I'm gonna force myself to go back to
bed before I get up and watch a game like that.
That was absolutely ridiculous. Sooner or later, we're gonna have
to start giving him key matchups. You can't keep them
giving them what the dredge of society there. You gotta
start giving them good teams. So that eventually is gonna happen.
Speaker 3 (15:17):
Categorically untrue because they sell out in a matter of
mere moments, that's true. And as soon as they add
a game in Go Dance Poland, guess who's gonna be
ticket seller or ticket buyer number one? It's gonna be
this guy at Stake and Genius one where you find
Arnie find me over at Swollen Dome.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven
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Speaker 3 (15:44):
Hey, welcome back in Fox Sports Radio Jason Smith Show
with Me Mike Carman. No Jason Smith tonight, So it's
me alongside the stinking genius himself, Arnie.
Speaker 4 (15:54):
Spanier look at that guy.
Speaker 3 (15:57):
You hear him on Sundays alongside Chris pla Plike doing
all sorts of big important college stuff today, and I
know he's always looking out for whatever your next bets
are going to be. To chronicle that did you send
him along the legal pads? And were you up early
working on the legal pads? Scott text me to say
(16:17):
Jason's ill and I get a text like five minutes later,
here's like fifteen points.
Speaker 4 (16:21):
Yeah, cut down, man.
Speaker 5 (16:23):
As soon as I got the call that I'm coming
in that I'm going to be filling for Jason, I immediately
got out my legal pads, started with the Roman numerals.
I came up with about nineteen of them. So even
a couple of non sports out there.
Speaker 3 (16:36):
So, oh no, we got a veritable potpourri. I mean,
this is a smorgasboard of chaos. Lots no question about it.
Speaker 6 (16:44):
Yeah, lots off, lots going on.
Speaker 3 (16:46):
Well, it's a sweet spot of the schedule, right and
I get right out and everything going going on. We
talked a lot of college basketball yesterday with the Kentucky
and Duke game. We've got basketball right off the jump
where I get to, you know, gloat about the Bulls
pulling off a w against the Knicks.
Speaker 5 (17:02):
You know that doesn't bother just the Knicks are off
to a slow started five and six. I mean one
game doesn't bother me. They were down by so much
they just have not jeled yet though. But you know
what that just means. That just means that's gonna make
him closer to winning a championship because the more that
they're pedestrian, the more that they're average, and the more
the Bucks lose, they'll end up getting Yannis and then
(17:24):
game over.
Speaker 6 (17:24):
Then that point that just forget me.
Speaker 3 (17:26):
Well, once Giannis gets Doc Rivers fired, everything else all bets.
Speaker 5 (17:29):
Around, no litt, they'll trade him and the Knicks will
end up getting Yannis and then they'll win like three
championships in a row.
Speaker 6 (17:36):
Jason Smith will be in sell.
Speaker 3 (17:37):
Well, no, we we at least know you and Smith
gravitate to the same fantasy land, drawing little pictures of
Giannis in your notebooks in a Knicks uniform.
Speaker 5 (17:48):
If I gonna see Jason Smith at the New York
Knicks Parade celebration this.
Speaker 4 (17:52):
Year, probably not.
Speaker 3 (17:55):
He doesn't leave his house, went given an opportunity to,
But what from his well to mine, because it's the
greatest train wreck going That isn't the Dallas Cowboys, that
is the Chicago Bears and the ongoing chaos, the lack
of offense, and the handwringing going on. Everybody that thought
this was going to be this massive breakthrough and everything
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was going to be brilliant, suddenly the brakes hit in
a big way and leaving the giant skid marks.
Speaker 4 (18:25):
On the highway.
Speaker 3 (18:26):
We'll leave it there, but for Caleb Williams, the struggles.
You know, you and I went back and forth in
terms of the great statistic of passes fifteen plus yards
going back the full fifteen years that he ranks for
sixty eight out of for sixty eight. So we've seen
that the off script and today, you know, everybody starts
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doing their rounds because in Chicago, even if you're not
a member of the eighty five Bears, if you're wearing
a Bears uniform, you get to do a radio show,
you get to do a TV appearance, you probably have
your own podcast. All of those things to say, and
it's not to diminish or denigrate any one of those forms.
Certainly we work in all of them. Arnie the podcast
(19:10):
goes up after we're done here tonight. Of course, you
find them wherever you get your audio. We appreciate you
and love you forever. More promos to come as the
night goes on. But the Bears, one after another, tried
to walk back some of the reporting that went down
early in the week after Shane Waldron is released of
his duties as the offensive coordinator, and we move forward
(19:35):
with Matt Eberflus having to take the podium and try
to do a little bit of a tap dance. You know,
I don't know if you've ever seen the Broadway musical
or the movie Chicago.
Speaker 6 (19:46):
When above my head there, Okay, well, I.
Speaker 3 (19:48):
Mean there's a great, great tap dance done by the lawyer,
basically every stereotype of the fast talking, loose playing with
the law lawyer trying to get over and well you
tap dance and you know, kind of a Vegas misdirection
kind of thing.
Speaker 4 (20:07):
You're probably more.
Speaker 3 (20:08):
Likely to go but go ahead, yeah, oh well, you know,
whenever you get Gregory Hines, wow that now we're going
back to the early ladies alongside here.
Speaker 4 (20:19):
But but just the idea of all right.
Speaker 3 (20:21):
I'm not going to answer any questions straight on obliquely
about you know, the decision making and the process to
where they come to this decision. You're averaging nine points
a game list list. You've got a turnstyle offensive line,
regardless of what everybody's Bible Pro Football Focus says.
Speaker 7 (20:41):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (20:41):
And I'd love to sit down again.
Speaker 3 (20:42):
I said this on Monday Show that I'd love to
sit down with a couple of offensive linemen and quarterbacks
and then we could assess blame for the thirty eight
sacks that Williams has taken, because a lot of them
are on him holding the ball too long, missing you know,
the quick outs, et cetera. So you know, he certainly
deserves a lot of blame. But some of the scheme's
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concept and what seems obvious to you, me and everybody
watching when you're playing a team like the Patriots who
have been devoid of toughness up front in terms of
stopping a run game and you're shuffling your offensive line
they were missing several starters on Sunday to where you
don't get the run game going right, Dancing bears and
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pass blocking a lot harder than hey move forward and
hit that guy in the gap.
Speaker 6 (21:29):
No, you know, Mike A couple things on Call Williams.
Speaker 5 (21:32):
First of all, everybody who thought that this guy was
already a can't miss Hall of Famer, it couldn't be
further from the truth. I'm not gonna say he's a boss.
We're still way too early into this process. But the
show is today, and he couldn't look any worse than
I imagine the OFFENSI looks staged that. If you want
to blame somebody, let's blame a third on Caleb, a
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third on the offensive line, then maybe a third on
the coaching. Okay, I'm willing to do something like that,
but let's be honest. He doesn't look good. The stats
show he doesn't look good. They went out of their
way and they added people in the offseason, did they not?
When the head got swift? They got themselves some running back.
I thought they had bolstered the offensive line.
Speaker 6 (22:13):
You gotta throw the damn ball away.
Speaker 5 (22:15):
He doesn't look good, and I don't know if the
team has really got his back.
Speaker 6 (22:19):
To be honest with you, I don't know what's going
on there.
Speaker 5 (22:21):
Would he be a whole lot better somewhere else? Not
sure he would be a whole lot better somewhere else.
I got some big red flags. I argued with Chris
Plank about this many times. I said, Man, you better
pump the brakes on this guy. And I know he's
in Chicago, but man, Mike, he just looks below pedestrian.
He doesn't scare me at all. I just tell you,
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I'd blitz him like crazy. He just holds on way
too long. I don't know how this is going to
turn out, to be honest with you, but surely doesn't
seem it's gonna end up him being.
Speaker 6 (22:50):
Like it all pro or anything like that.
Speaker 3 (22:52):
Well, it's the latest in a long line of Bear's decisions,
going back to as chronicled and predicted that Eberflu's keep
his job when everybody had him fired. And it's like
why because he still had a contract. It's Chicago. That's
what those teams do. They don't give you a giant
check to go away. They just don't. So it's the.
Speaker 6 (23:13):
Is it all his fault though, I mean you know
it still No, No.
Speaker 4 (23:16):
It's part of it. It's part of it. But if
you're going to bring in a shiny.
Speaker 3 (23:21):
New toy, the quarterback of Caleb Williams and you guys
surround him with wide receivers and Andre Swift and all
of this stuff. You got to make sure the guts
are still good right offensive line. You cut Nate Davis today,
guy that you signed for three years thirty million dollars.
Speaker 6 (23:39):
And that was a mistake. But this just did.
Speaker 5 (23:41):
Everybody has injuries. Mike he got overcome, next guy cors
But again, the point is the infrastructure's bad year. Head
coach who you've already had some questions of how good
a head coach he is now was it? Were they
fooled by the back end of the season last year?
Absolutely they played better football down the stretch. Montees Sweat
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comes over in the trade after a couple of coaches
go missing that we still don't know. I've still I
hold up a sign saying where the hell's Alan Williams
at least once a week. Remember he was the defensive
coordinator that went away under curious circumstances, never to be
heard from again. Bears have never addressed any of that,
the amount of personnel and coaches that they've gone through,
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like there's been no accountability to that end.
Speaker 4 (24:27):
But you bring in.
Speaker 3 (24:29):
Caleb Williams and a guy in Shane Waldron that I
don't know who you talk to in terms of bringing
him in to run your offense. That was going to
sell you that, oh yeah, this is gonna work. Right,
No former players, right, it's.
Speaker 4 (24:44):
A terrible hire. It wasn't underneath a bad head coach.
Speaker 6 (24:48):
I watch you to know.
Speaker 5 (24:49):
So though, half the coaches in the NFL are wanted
fired by their fan base. You understand Philadelphia, they want
Serreatti fire. Look what that guy's has done for Philadelphia,
the one McDaniel fight. There's so many coaches that are
on the hot seat with their fan base.
Speaker 6 (25:05):
They're not even funny. There's a lot of bad teams
in the NFL. Mike, look at what's going on right now.
Speaker 3 (25:10):
But in terms of resets already, when you bring in
and you're going to change the tone, the tenor of
a squad, having the defensive coach who's.
Speaker 4 (25:22):
Already imbattled, I think that's fair to say.
Speaker 3 (25:24):
With eber Flus coming back off of the year, they
had that that he was already a guy that most
were ready to turn the page one. Look, I'm not
in the business of calling for guys head, but I'm
a pragmatist when it comes down to it of, all right,
what's the next direction for a squad? And for the Bears,
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it was we're going offensive. And so you've got a
defensive head coach and you bring in an offensive coordinator
that really didn't have a lot of votes of confidence too.
It's like, all right, let's see what happens and a
guy in campib and I'm a big believer this. So
this just goes down to the brass tax of it all.
If the guy's not ready, he doesn't have to play.
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I don't care if he's drafted number one, number two,
number four, number five, because in the end, your job
is to develop that quarterback into a serviceable well no
way better now.
Speaker 6 (26:20):
I'm sorry to go up here, but that's the question.
Speaker 5 (26:22):
Did you see that a couple of weeks ago where
people in the college game were saying the quarterbacks, if
you don't start two years in the college game, we
recommend that you don't go to the NFL. But the
NFL doesn't go ahead and develop quarterbacks. You just have
to be ready to come in and play. I don't
think the NFL does do a very good job of
developing rookie quarterbacks.
Speaker 6 (26:42):
Mike, nobody do a horrible, Joe.
Speaker 3 (26:43):
But that's the point, right is, if you don't have
the requisite number of starts in college to where you
have tested and battle tested what we'll talk about the
Colts going back to Anthony Richardson, and that's one of
the things. But one of the things sliding in the
background of this, and we got a little bit of
promo at Fox orts Radio if you go on x
something that Smith and I were talking about last night,
(27:04):
the reports that veteran players were going in and saying, hey,
we want Tyson Bagen And my argument.
Speaker 6 (27:10):
There is is crazy.
Speaker 4 (27:12):
Well, but you watched.
Speaker 3 (27:13):
Him operate in the games he did last year, right,
You ran a consistent timed offense. Caleb Williams does a
lot of stuff improvisationally right where he holds onto the
ball a ton. So if you're a guy that hey,
I'm gonna run an eight yard in, I'm gonna run
an eight yard out and turn and the ball should
be there, Caleb Williams is generally not gonna be that
(27:34):
guy for you.
Speaker 6 (27:35):
What does that show you?
Speaker 4 (27:36):
Though?
Speaker 5 (27:36):
When his own players don't want him, it shows you
it's Caleb Williams fault. It's not the coaching fault. As
much as we want to make it out to be,
it's not.
Speaker 6 (27:45):
The play calling. A lot of it's gonna be on
Caleb Williams.
Speaker 5 (27:48):
Otherwise the players would be go to the coach and say, hey,
you got to open it up. You gotta let this
guy do this, or let him throw or do that
or do this. But they wanted him gone. They want
him gone for a guy that what did he play
in a mural football?
Speaker 6 (28:01):
I mean, my goodness, man, it's crazy.
Speaker 3 (28:04):
Well, part of that is all rumor, conjecture, speculation. Here's
the response earlier today, we talked about it.
Speaker 8 (28:11):
You know, they're I think they got I got full
support from them. I've gotten text or calls or people
coming up to me, you know, with this situation that
just happened, coming up to me and saying we got
you back, Uh, we're with you. You know, things like that,
and and and and let's go. That kind of kind
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of mindset and attitude has been what it's what it's
been this past you know, this past couple of days,
and uh, that's that's that's kind of what it's only been.
Speaker 4 (28:44):
So there it is.
Speaker 3 (28:44):
I mean, it didn't convincing, but there were a number
of veteran players, Cold Comet and others that that you know,
tried to debunk that story. But you know, just suppose
for a moment that it's it's in passing the conversation
of hey, things would be you know, Crisper at her time,
And it's not that they're throwing Caleb Williams away. It's
where we're at in week nine, Week ten, where there's
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still a door and a possibility to be a playoff team,
where your offense has suddenly gone into the toilet after
several weeks of wishing, wanting, hoping that you were actually
a contending squad.
Speaker 5 (29:18):
But I don't understand why you have to replace the quarterback.
Why don't you just do different play calling? Why don't
you just mix it up a little bit?
Speaker 3 (29:25):
Well, and that's where they're going to in theory, and
we'll see how that plays out as they get back
onto the field later on this week. But what happens
when things are burning, you grab what you can and
you get out of the building.
Speaker 4 (29:38):
And that's what we're watching in.
Speaker 3 (29:40):
Chicago right now, is everything is burning after three straight
games of disasters. Going back to look as soon as
Zebra Flu started saying the call before the hail Mary
didn't matter. Any good will he had with any media
member or fan in Chicago was done because the logic
there failed on a million levels. When you saw Jadon Daniels,
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even with the extra fifteen yards, couldn't get the ball
in the end zone, Why was you telling me that
it didn't matter? Is just one of the dumber things
that you can say.
Speaker 5 (30:10):
You gotta take responsibilities sometimes when they do those post
game conferences, they're not thinking straight, and that that was
a big problem there. I don't know why you decided
to go in that direction.
Speaker 3 (30:19):
Well what he kept saying that days and weeks later, Arnie,
That's the thing.
Speaker 4 (30:23):
It has not changed.
Speaker 3 (30:24):
The lack of accountability point right, The lack of accountability
of you know, on second thought, like just say you're wrong.
It's like radio hosts. If you get something wrong, don't say,
hey this change that Jaywater. Your opinion was wrong and
you were proven wrong, just be done with it. So,
if you have any man culplas you'd like to give
right now from this Sunday shows, Arnie.
Speaker 5 (30:43):
Yeah, maybe my bet between the Knicks and my Arizona Wildcats.
Speaker 3 (30:47):
I'm looking at anything you want to throw out there
as we got to be Alive from the diiraq dot
Com Fox Sports Radio Studios. Hey, coming up next, we're
gonna talk about guys betting on themselves in a very
unique way and now takeing their victory laps. But in
the interim, in this moment, we go to our guy
in our news desk. It's our guy, Isaac Loewencron.
Speaker 4 (31:08):
What's up?
Speaker 6 (31:08):
I love Mike and Ardi.
Speaker 7 (31:09):
San Antonio Spurs' second year sensation, Victor Wembinyama has just
completed the first fifty point game of his career in
a one to thirty nine one to thirty victory over
the Washington Wizards. He scored the fifty points in thirty
two minutes, including eight three pointers. Weban Yama, at twenty
years of age, the fourth youngest player in NBA history
with a fifty point game, the others Brandon Jennings, Lebron James,
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and Devin Booker. The Milwaukee Bucks and Detroit Pistons have
just started overtime tied at one to eleven, as Detroit's
Ron Holland moments ago missed two free throws with one
second left in the fourth quarter. The Los Angeles Lakers
Lee the Memphis Grizzlies after one thirty eight to twenty six. Earlier,
the Cleveland Cavaliers became the sixth team in NBA history
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to open a season thirteen to zero with a one
to fourteen to one oh six win at Philadelphia. The
Chicago Bulls over the New York Knicks and Madison Square
Garden won twenty four to one twenty three. Chicago's Kobe
White made three free throws to win it with three
seconds left. Jalen Brunson then missed a jumper in and
out at the buzzer. Finally, in college Hoops Mike and
(32:14):
Arney Fox Sports Radios, Doug Gottlieb won his first game
as the new head coach of Wisconsin Brando Phoenix victorious
at Western Illinois eighty seven seventy three, nine thirty five
points and eighty three pointers from Anthony Roy. Let's take
you into the winning locker room as Doug's players doused
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him with the gatorade bucket to commemorate his first win. Ironically,
the crew around here does the same thing. After another
successful edition of the Doug Gottlieb Show.
Speaker 6 (32:49):
Here back to you.
Speaker 3 (32:50):
Guys, There you go, had Isaac Lowan krownn Were you
find Doug? How about that big first half they were
up twenty one at Halftimes hosted from there.
Speaker 5 (32:58):
I was paid attention to and I was looking to
see if they were gonna get the win tonight.
Speaker 4 (33:01):
I bet it.
Speaker 6 (33:02):
No, I didn't bet the gave.
Speaker 5 (33:03):
I didn't do that, but I saw that they were
a slight underdog to Weston, Illinois. Good for dog, you know,
I know he's putting his heart into this. It's good
to see him get the win. I know he's just
enjoying the heck out of this. Actually, Bertie Fratto was
up there and got me a Wisconsin Green Bay sweatshirt
that I got, So I'm rooting for Doug.
Speaker 6 (33:22):
Hopefully he has a good year.
Speaker 3 (33:23):
There you go, Phoenix take down the leather Necks. Fourteen
point victory. Congratulations are our guy, Doug Gottlieb. Yeah, getting
that first one under his belt. Now we see how
the season proceeds from there. Certainly hard on his sleeve.
Doug is love of coaching and working to this, so
I'm excited to hear and we'll wait for the post
(33:44):
game to hear his comments as well. He's already spander
in for Jason Smith. I'm Mike Carmon coming out next.
Couple of NFL players taking victory laps for a reason
you probably can't predict.
Speaker 2 (33:55):
We'll do that next year on Fox. Be sure to
catch live editions of The Jason Smith's Show with Mike
harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern seven pm Pacific.
Speaker 3 (34:05):
Hey, welcome back in Fox Sports or Radio Jason Smith
Show with Me Mike harmt Arnie span'er in for Jason
tonight as we traverse the sporting universe, get a little
bit on the NBA, a little bit in the NFL,
but some victory laps being taken by some NFL players.
Speaker 4 (34:25):
Arnie Spaniard controversial in the moment.
Speaker 3 (34:27):
Guys that you know it's the I hate to say
I told you so, but from a different standpoint. Russell
o'coung and Odell Beckham Junior two guys standing up and saying, hey,
remember when y'all called me idiots when I took my
bonuses and contract money and bitcoin and they're given the
(34:48):
double middle bird. As you know, cryptocurrency the last week
or so has taken off Bitcoin and ethereum and some
of the other coins that are out there I have
gone and taking some dramatically.
Speaker 5 (35:02):
Trevor Loard's too, Remember that a couple of years ago
he took a big chuck get to start off.
Speaker 3 (35:06):
Well, I don't see he's hurt, so I don't think
he's been typing and clicking. He clicking and saying clapping
back at people. But like Russell o'coon right the report
he took that six point five million, it's now worth
about forty five Wow, Like Odell Beckham Junior saying, well,
how dumb am I now? And he had the screenshot
when bitcoin reached ninety two thousand dollars. Now, I'm not saying, hey,
(35:30):
put all your money in that. Certainly, you know, past
performance not indicative of future returns, risk reward, all those things.
But at the time I argued with Jason about it
a bunch and look, you can be in on it
or no in on it for any type of class
of investment. ARNI him in whatever you do with your money,
(35:51):
and you're trying to grow it, whether you want to
buy a house, whether you invest in the stock market
however alternate, and you buy you know, old coins or
baseball cards or whatever else, whatever you're into, right, it's
the risk reward proposition. And these guys said, well, I
have enough money over here, give me a percentage of
it over here, and we'll see what happens.
Speaker 6 (36:12):
No, Greg, Greg, they were.
Speaker 3 (36:13):
All called dopes at the time, going well, this is
all made up. It's like, well, it's all made up.
Speaker 6 (36:18):
You know, it's amazing.
Speaker 5 (36:21):
You know, you put that money in there and you
forget about it because you're right. They're all set in
another way, so they're like, I don't care about this
one or two million, and we'll see what it turns into.
I can't believe six million turned into forty five. Do
you know the story about Junior Bridgeman, remember the old
Milwaukee Bucks Guard old school? Sure, yep, I want to
tell this real quick. I don't know if you know
(36:42):
the story about him.
Speaker 6 (36:43):
He was good.
Speaker 5 (36:44):
In his last year in the NBA, was making three
hundred and fifty thousand dollars. Went to his agent said
I'm going to be broke after this year and I'm
not going to be able to sign with the team.
Speaker 6 (36:52):
You got to help me.
Speaker 5 (36:53):
Here's three hundred and fifty thousand dollars by one year salary.
Please help me because I'm going to be broke. He
had an believable agent. His agent made him go working
Wendy's in the off season and then invested his money
in fast food chains.
Speaker 6 (37:07):
Jujia Bridgeman went on to be a billionaire.
Speaker 5 (37:09):
He's like second to Michael Jordan in money earned of
X sports athletes.
Speaker 6 (37:14):
It's tremendous.
Speaker 5 (37:15):
He went up to buy Chili's, like fifty or sixty
Chilis Wendy's.
Speaker 6 (37:20):
I think he ended up buying television networks.
Speaker 4 (37:23):
Now.
Speaker 5 (37:23):
It is amazing what he did with the three hundred
and fifty thousand dollars.
Speaker 6 (37:27):
Talk about that as an investment. How about that.
Speaker 5 (37:29):
It's a great story, Mike we You really should check
into its unbelievable.
Speaker 3 (37:33):
Well, but that's the thing, like we hear about the
guys where there are failures and they were hoodwinked by
by business managers or factors, Like there's plenty of guys
of folks circling around that'll drain your bank accounts. Oh,
this could have gone bust and then been like, well,
all right, I'm out those millions, and maybe it comes
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back to haunt him down the road.
Speaker 5 (37:55):
But you didn't think it was gonna go like that though,
it wasn't gonna go all the way south where you
would have no money.
Speaker 6 (38:00):
You didn't think like that is.
Speaker 4 (38:01):
Well did I know?
Speaker 3 (38:02):
But some thought it was, you know, full on right,
the NFT marketplace keep on going down where people put
money in, like has it gone to zero?
Speaker 4 (38:14):
Most of it?
Speaker 3 (38:14):
Know a lot of it, some of it, you know,
depending on what part of the marketplace you're looking at. Yeah,
you might have lost your ass, but you know what,
you might have done that in a million other different
ways when money.
Speaker 4 (38:27):
Invested as well.
Speaker 3 (38:28):
Right, you pick a stock that tanks, a company that
goes bad, you know, their management gets caught with their
hand in the cookie jar, all those things. There's plenty
of ways that you can lose your money, downturns in
the market and whatever.
Speaker 4 (38:42):
As it goes.
Speaker 3 (38:43):
But you know, for these guys, you know, they took
a shot on something a bit unknown, a little bit
of you know, higher risk, higher volatility. And that's that's
always the fun thing. When you get the notice from
whatever you've got invested and said you may be over
aggressive here, you may be invested to aggressive?
Speaker 6 (39:00):
Are you not a couple? Because they have so much
money you thought more making the public.
Speaker 3 (39:07):
Yeah, well, I mean, look, when if they'd lost it all,
they probably wouldn't have been as chesty about it.
Speaker 6 (39:13):
Right. What's remember those coin what's that as that's.
Speaker 4 (39:16):
Still it's like forty three cents right now.
Speaker 3 (39:18):
So that's well, that's one that Elon had interest in,
So that got.
Speaker 4 (39:22):
Some juice to it.
Speaker 3 (39:23):
But like all of those things, it's it's a ride
it out if you can't. If you can afford to
play in those marketplaces, you can. For these particular players,
they took a lot of incoming from people saying they
were throwing their money away and how dare you? And
it's like, well, it's not your money, uh too, it's
you know, time, time will tell good, bad or ugly
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in all of those investments, and maybe they've now cashed out.
Speaker 4 (39:48):
I go back your.
Speaker 6 (39:49):
Time with ten thousand to putting that my friend. Oh
my goodness.
Speaker 3 (39:52):
But like everything else, Netflix and all of these other companies,
you can have the same thing. Go back to Apple
when Apple was enough at stick a genius one where
you find Arnie in the Twitter verse, find me over
at swollen Dome coming out next.
Speaker 4 (40:06):
Well, you mentioned how about Netflix? How about Fight Night
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