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November 21, 2024 40 mins

The McRib is back! The guy’s debate if this Cy Young puts Chris Sale in the Hall of Fame, Jason explains why Eli Manning is going to the Hall of Fame in his first year of eligibility. Plus, a TNF preview!

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Speaker 1 (00:29):
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Speaker 2 (00:44):
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Speaker 2 (01:00):
Should Waiting for an answer, Joy, Yeah, no, I know.

Speaker 1 (01:03):
Ye. The McRib is back and and uh that was
big news. So he probably woke up to saying that, Hey,
the mcribs coming back December third, the McRib returns, And
you know, I was just thinking about this, like ty
Shirt always does this. Who oh yeh mcgrib mcgrim And
I remember a few years ago I brought in a
McRib for you to try, and you wouldn't eat it.
And now you eat meat like all the time. Oh,

(01:25):
here's a bite of meat for you. Again. We're continuing
past the goat meat talk. We had a last hour.
I remember bringing it in for a stop. You've never
had it, and I'm for you, and and and you
wouldn't even try it.

Speaker 2 (01:38):
Jason, you think the fact that I was on like
a three year meat hiatus and a McRib is enough
to make me crack?

Speaker 1 (01:44):
What made you crack? Final you went back to eat meat?
What was it?

Speaker 2 (01:47):
It was actually real ribs. When I went to visit
my old bosses over at Big Bear. It was a
good time.

Speaker 1 (01:51):
Yeah, oh so so so Wait so you went to
a neighborhood place for ribs.

Speaker 2 (01:56):
I was at a Big Bear estate, I'll tell you,
and I was the of honor, and they made ribs
just for me, even though I didn't know. They didn't
know ID ate ribs, but I ate it for them. Okay,
it was a great time, all right. It's been downhill
ever since then.

Speaker 3 (02:08):
You ate ribs with that, dude?

Speaker 2 (02:11):
You gotta say, break bread. I broke ribs and it's
now I'm here again.

Speaker 1 (02:16):
And I the Big Bear. I was on in the
state and I realized they were hunting me and I
had to escape, but luckily I was able to escape.
Dam game. What a movie? Rutger Hower and iced tea
a little. Most Dangerous Game? Yeah was it? Vince Von
does that? And wedding crashes a little like human humans?
Most Dangerous Game? Yeah. Oh, let's go wild, buddy, let's

(02:37):
go watch.

Speaker 3 (02:38):
Jason?

Speaker 2 (02:38):
Would you rather fast for an entire week or eat
only mcribs?

Speaker 1 (02:42):
Eat only mc ribs.

Speaker 2 (02:43):
There's no way.

Speaker 1 (02:44):
What are you gonna give me? You know how much
I like to eat? What are you gonna give me?
That's gonna be yes? After fast for a week?

Speaker 3 (02:49):
What do you give me as fast for an hour?

Speaker 2 (02:52):
Okay, Jason, I got one for you. This is gonna
be talking right.

Speaker 1 (02:54):
Fast for an hour? I sleep? I sleep seven eight
hours a night.

Speaker 2 (02:57):
I got a good ones. Yeah, okay. Would you fast
for a week or only eat the pinto beans from Uko?

Speaker 1 (03:07):
Oh dude, now that's a tough one, man.

Speaker 2 (03:09):
You only can eat pento beans.

Speaker 1 (03:11):
That's a tough one. That's tough.

Speaker 2 (03:14):
The water and everything you can't drain them those pina to.

Speaker 1 (03:18):
Tell you because Tysher and I had a conversation about
pinto beans and'llyolok and I said, like, I can't eat them.
I remember when when I would go to Elko with
Zoe when she was like three, and the very first
time we got the beans, I forgot to tell her, okay,
you don't eat the pento beans. And she got them
and she took one bite and I said, Zoe, I said,
I'm so sorry, you do not have to eat these beans.
She goes, really thanks Dad. And the next time we went,

(03:42):
you went and Dad, we're gonna go to Toyoloka. Yeah,
but no beans. Right, No, you don't have to eat
the beans. Right, I don't have to know you won't
have to. I'm not gonna buy them for you. Don't worry.
You're not gonna have to eat those pento beans. Don't
worry about it. Oh. She was so happy. I think
one of her greatest memories going out to lunch. I
didn't have to eat those pento beans. Boy, that's tough,
not eating for a week or eating just Yeah, that's

(04:03):
a tough one. That's a you're gonna go like Mets
win the World Series and not eating for a week.
And no, but that's a come on, that's a tough
one there, man, that's a tough one. That one is
too easy. Yeah, win a World Series, Yeah I could
go for I could go for a week not eating
and if the Mets win the World Series.

Speaker 3 (04:18):
Due the next fast you do is the first.

Speaker 1 (04:20):
I gotta I gotta see. The thing is I do
the intermittent fasting, like when I'm sleeping. I'm not eating.
That's my intermittent fasting.

Speaker 3 (04:25):
No, would you sleep like the Homer Simpson on the treadmill.

Speaker 4 (04:31):
Hey man, we all need to carry whatever our version
is of the carrot on the stick.

Speaker 1 (04:36):
We all get to it.

Speaker 3 (04:37):
When a little bigger than the carrot.

Speaker 1 (04:39):
I start fasting about one thirty in the morning, and
I fast until about nine or ten the next morning,
and then then it wakes up and I'm not fasting.

Speaker 2 (04:45):
The time in between a bite and your mcdouble is
not intermitted fast.

Speaker 1 (04:50):
Uh no, no, dude, I die.

Speaker 2 (04:52):
It's longer than that.

Speaker 1 (04:53):
Dude, I could kill a mcdouble in like four bites.

Speaker 2 (04:55):
Man, Okay, then opening the next one. That's not an
intermittent fast.

Speaker 1 (05:00):
What what if what if it's to take a drink?

Speaker 2 (05:02):
No, No, okay, all right, Mike, what are we doing here?

Speaker 1 (05:06):
All right?

Speaker 5 (05:07):
I'm just it's the end of us all God, longest
fast you've probably ever done is when you go from
the drive through back around to the drive through.

Speaker 1 (05:17):
I didn't get my foot. No, actually know the fast
I've only time I really fast was I had my
colonoscopy right when you turn fifteen. No, I didn't know.
It can't canny twenty four hours? No, can't we drinking broth?
I was not. No, it's not drinking broth.

Speaker 3 (05:31):
No, m broth.

Speaker 1 (05:34):
They made McRib at it. No, it was, and it
was awful, and I learned a big lesson that for
my next one. In a few years, I got a
scheduled first thing in the morning. Because I didn't do that.
I said, oh, it's good for like noon. I'm like, yeah,
because I'll fall Hell are you think? I'm like, I'll
wake up and I'll get you know, a regular hour.
And I'm like, oh, I got up at nine o'clock.
I'm starving. I gotta go to Oh my god, I'm

(05:55):
not going to eat till three o'clock in the afternoon.
That was awful. But man, we're gonna say ty shirt.

Speaker 6 (06:02):
Go ahead.

Speaker 2 (06:02):
Wait, I just I don't know what to say anymore. Jason,
you know you have to eat and you make it
three pm. What are you doing?

Speaker 1 (06:13):
I didn't again again it was a rookie mistake.

Speaker 2 (06:15):
But it was a rookie mistake.

Speaker 1 (06:17):
It was a rookie mistake.

Speaker 4 (06:18):
No, no, no, you can't call him a foodie. The
foody implies far different.

Speaker 1 (06:24):
Foody is not mcrip just because this weekcause I'm not
out having the the the big meals on during the
week with you guys, because I gotta stop and I
gotta eat. Like sports talk radio guys do, I gotta
have fast food. I gotta have pizza, we gotta have wings,
we gotta do No on the weekends, when I go
out to the place and go all right, let's go here,
let's go here. No, that's what I'm a foodie during
the week. It's just food. You had your birthday, bash,

(06:45):
I don't point logo. I'm not doing my birthday. There'd
be McDonald's for doing it. Come on, man, No, not happening.
Not happening.

Speaker 2 (06:59):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (07:00):
Jason Sido and Mike Harvion Live from the tire rag
dot com Studios. What did you do a fast? Oh
the night before my colonoski?

Speaker 2 (07:06):
Oh when I start talking a ton of one and
then I ate a ten to twelve?

Speaker 1 (07:09):
Yeah, all right, ty shir, just wait, just wait, you
just wait, because eventually you're gonna find yourself. I don't
feel like working out as much anymore, and I feel
like this, and you're gonna go. Man, I'm gonna go
to food and I'm gonna understand how great food is.
No Jason, You'll get it. You'll get it.

Speaker 2 (07:26):
I'll eventually.

Speaker 1 (07:28):
You're young. You're young. You know the stuff you're putting
in your body. I'm surprised you're not doctor Octopus and
and all kinds of tentacles are busting out of the
sides with the stuff.

Speaker 2 (07:36):
I'm gonna be a breath arian one day.

Speaker 1 (07:38):
What's a breath airy?

Speaker 2 (07:39):
All I do is breathe sunlight, water and tree.

Speaker 1 (07:42):
Baby, you could be immortal just by breathing the air.
Yes that I am.

Speaker 3 (07:46):
We're gonna call you RFK.

Speaker 2 (07:49):
All I need is the air that on a plane.
That doesn't count?

Speaker 1 (07:53):
What is what is actually featured in a movie? I
saw res what what is it Norton saying Glass, I,
let's let's breathe a this moment. I don't think that's
the word. Let's inbrethiate this moment, shallie? All right, Chris,
let's what we'll do. I'm just doing the Alex Tischer
how to be immortal. Just breathe. And then here's the thing.
And when someone dies, eventually, they can't come back at
you and go, hey, you said I was going to

(08:14):
be a lie. And they're not going to come back
and say, hey, hey, you promised me as long as
I breathed, I would love okay, I tell you that
was wrong.

Speaker 2 (08:20):
I would say you were breathing the wrong air.

Speaker 1 (08:22):
Yeah, they see. There you go. You make people sign
a release. That's all. I have to sign a release
right here, that's all. But I'll make you breathe forever, okay,
and forever in your case is okay? I don't know.
But just keep breathing, Just keep it in out, in
in any food, nope, nope, nothing else, don't worry about it.
Anything to drink, nope, nope. Just just keep breathing. Just
keep You'll be fine.

Speaker 5 (08:39):
Is that you breathing or is that the oxygen tank
behind you?

Speaker 1 (08:45):
Suddenly I'm I'm a commercial for the guy bringing the
oxygen tank down in the hospital.

Speaker 4 (08:51):
Hey, hey, that doesn't start until twelve oh one. Okay,
that's that's when those infomercials start. It's on a timer,
because as soon as I flipped on the TV to
wind down, that's when it starts.

Speaker 1 (09:03):
Hey, you need some of this, you know. I needed
to breathe better, so I started taking absolute good luck
to get out. The side effects include death, dismemberment, your
toes falling off, wanting to eat your toes, wanting to
eat your fingers, rooting for the Yankees, these all these
awful things, awful things.

Speaker 3 (09:18):
Sham wow, sham wow.

Speaker 1 (09:22):
That guy get a lot of trouble too, didn't he.
I can say very proudly I have never bought anything
off of late night TV. You are wanting to any
when I was, when I was young and impressionable in
my early twenties, that never bought anything off of late
night TV. Not even your closest, closest would have been. Hey,
look at all these great hair metal ballads of the eighties.
Oh that that almost got me. That almost got me.

(09:45):
But I was able to stay strong and not order it.
But just wait till that flex seal shows up that
I got you. We're almost we're sawing through a boat
and then we're gonna see if it works the flex seal.
We're gonna cut your car in half. Then we're gonna
tape it uts it goes on the freeway. Okay, So

(10:06):
the McRib is back and that's that's how we got
on this conversation with Alex Tischer. Amazing.

Speaker 4 (10:12):
Evidently they're going to sell you the sauce separately. Smith, Yeah,
well we actually we have the McRib sauce Challenge stuff.

Speaker 1 (10:20):
Yeah, mcgrifth mcri sauce. Just who it can drink it
the most, keep putting it down, drink it put it down. Uh.
So it's always great for people to find out what
it's like to walk in your shoes. Yeah, it was
always like you, there's other people that you know, you

(10:42):
want to be able to say, Hey, I get that guy.
I understand what he's got going on a daily basis.
I really understand. I understand a lot about him. I
get what makes him tick, I get the things he
deals with on a daily basis, and I understand what
it's like to be him. And today was that day
where I think everybody in the world world understood what
it was like to be me, because today was the

(11:03):
day everybody found out that Jets owner Woody Johnson is
Jerry Jones, but just with the lower profile like he's
the He's the unbelievably worst meddler you could possibly imagine,
but he doesn't do it publicly for the headlines like
Jerry Jones does. But in the wake of Joe Douglas
getting fired yesterday, what did we find out in the

(11:25):
last twenty four hours. Yes, there was a meeting where
Woody Johnson wanted to wanted to bench Aaron Rodgers. Didn't
think he was playing well. This when the Jets were
two and two, okay, not three and seven to two
and two, it's I want to bench Aaron Rodgers. He
called for the Jets to have a practice, like the
owner now is scheduling practices because he was going to
fire Joe Douglas. Wanted the team to practice. One of

(11:46):
the Jets to practice during their bye week. This is
the meddling that Woody Johnson has done. Joe Douglas wanted
to give money to players. Hey, we're gonna do this.
They call their agents, let's set it up. Woody Johnson says, No.
Woody Johnson, due to a pressure of social media, went
out and traded for Devonte Adams and also went out
and got Mike Williams. Like this is what it's like

(12:06):
to be a Jets fan because this is the owner.
And I always say, you could get past a bad quarterback,
a bad head, coach, bad GM. When you have a
bad owner, you're stuck, right. Cowboys know this for the
last thirty some odd years. But it's the same thing
with the Jets. And I can't even say Woody Johnson
is Jerry Jones light because he's just as disruptive as
Jerry joneses as you can see. But just nobody really

(12:27):
knew in the last twenty four hours. But now all
these stories getting out because he's firing everybody this year.
He's out of control. It's look at this with practices
and benching quarterbacks and all these things he wants like
he is Jerry Jones, but he's a he's LPJJ, low
profile Jerry Jones. And I'm at the point where I
expect nothing from the Jets anymore because they're just gonna lose,

(12:49):
and if they win, it's a happy accident. Hey, great,
but I can't expect anything from them because over the years,
and this is the same thing with the Dallas Cowboys.
When Jerry Jones and Woody Johnson both starts as owners
of their teams, the teams did fairly well, right, Jerry
Johnson won some Jerry Jones won some Super Bowls. They
were really they were in contention a lot. They were
a yearly Super Bowl threat. The Jets made the playoffs

(13:11):
basically every other season for the first ten or so
years after got to the AFC Championship Game. And once
these guys started getting more involved and more comfortable being owners,
and I'm comfortable being involved in day to day operations
and player decisions and coaching decisions like they have in
the past fifteen years, Look what's happened. These teams have

(13:32):
fallen into disrepair. The Cowboys have never been any lower
that a magical twenty fifteen. Wow, I remember that year
with Dak and Ezekiel Elliott. Oh, it's so great, it's
so oddes enough, and then look where they are now.
They're an absolute mess because Jerry Jones is too involved.
Same thing with Woody Johnson. He's gotten so involved with
the Jets. Nobody wants to be the GM never wants
to be the head coach there. You're not gonna get
anybody any good that's gonna do anything well in the

(13:54):
next few years because nobody wants this job. The more
they've gotten into Hey, I feel comfortable. This is my legacy,
it's my football team. I'm getting even more involved than
did in the past. Things wind up getting worse. I'm
telling you what. Everybody now knows what it's like to
be me. Well, please see whatdy Johnson?

Speaker 4 (14:11):
Well, at lease you Cowboys have six double digit win
seasons in the last eleven years. Not that it's resulting anything,
but if as long as he stays loud, yeah, Johnson
and Johnson, they stay in the shadows.

Speaker 1 (14:24):
It's amazing. It's amazing now that I'm glad people know
just what it's like to be me. They know what
it's like to be me. Whether you're not eating a
McRib or not, you know what it's like to be me. Exit.
How about a Fresca exit? Swollen down The Jason Smith
Show with Mike Carmon live from the Tirack dot Com Studios.
Coming up next two Hall of Fame conversations. You didn't
think we were gonna have today, but they're big. That's

(14:47):
coming up next right here, Jason and Mike, this is
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Speaker 6 (14:51):
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Speaker 1 (15:03):
The Jason Smith Show with My best friend Mike Harmon Live.
The the Mets may get one soda, although probably not,
They'll just use him to drive the price up. But
speaking of baseball, we got a couple of Hall of
Fame conversations to have the next few minutes. One Baseball,
one NFL. Why Hall of Fame in baseball? Well, we

(15:24):
had the Cy Young Award winners announced today, We'll have
the MVP's announced tomorrow. We'll find out just how much
Otani and Aaron Judge win by Darik Skoubl in the
American League, no surprise, won the pitching Triple Crown. Chris
Sale in the National League again, no surprise, he won
the pitching Triple Crown Wins strikeouts eer and the Chris

(15:46):
Sale thing is really interesting because all of a sudden,
not that he's any better of a pitcher today than
he was a day ago. But at thirty five, after
the decade of dominance he had in the twenty two
he's been injured a lot the last few years before
he finally was able to get healthy this year. Look,
he's still slinging it, so he still has probably a

(16:06):
couple more good years left in his career. But with
putting the Cy Young as the cherry on top of
his Major League Baseball career, today he became a Hall
of Famer. You're talking about an eight time All Star
now winning the again pitching not just winning the Cy Young,

(16:26):
but triple Crown to win the Cy Young, and his
final record is going to be incredibly impressive. Right now,
he's like one thirty eight and eighty three overall. He
had a decade plus where he was one of the
top three pitchers in baseball at worst. Yeah, when you
win a Cy Young like this, this dominant and beat

(16:47):
a couple of guys who also had incredible seasons. Look,
Zach Wheeler would win almost any other year. Paul Skeins,
who was the other finalist, might have a case in
a lot of other years, But this year, Chris Say
it's hard to say when he win the pitching Triple Crown,
somebody else should beat you. But Zach Will and Zach
Wheel had almost the same exact year except well more wins,
more strikeouts, and as the ra wasire so. But Chris
Sale winning it like this, the guy's going to the

(17:09):
Hall of Fame. He may not be first ballot. Maybe
it's where he's sixty percent in the first ballot, seventy
percent second ballot, but Chris Sale's going to the Hall
of Fame. Your guy, Mike Carman, Chris Sale with the
cut up jersey and all is going to Cooperstown. Nicely done.

Speaker 4 (17:23):
One thirty eight eighty three in his career. Obviously a
huge comeback as well, given all the injuries that he's
experienced through the years.

Speaker 1 (17:33):
Is the most he's pitched.

Speaker 4 (17:34):
Since what is it twenty seventeen when he had a
two hundred and fourteen inning out, you know, effort at
seventeen and eight in his first year with Boston, and
so after COVID and injuries and all these other things,
finally back to form two three eight Era eighteen, these

(17:54):
guys become the twenty six twenty seventh Triple Crown winners
for pitching in baseball history. So you got that going
for you as well. Going back to I think nineteen
forty is where we'll take it back to. But the
Hall of Fame case is interesting, right. He strikes me
as a guy that will get more appreciation based on

(18:16):
what those overall numbers are, right, because we always try
to find where that line of demarcation is between eras
and what's the new three hundred is it two hundred?
Are there exceptions to the rules, all of that, And
for him, I think he's the guy that'll get more
appreciation the further away you get from it. That's six
year run plus now whatever this next act is when

(18:37):
you get into some of those committee votes later on, Right,
the veterans might be more kind than the writers.

Speaker 1 (18:44):
Yeah, I mean I think the I don't know that
it's been such a horrible thing for Chris Sales, certainly
the cutting up the jersey and the melting down. He's
not gonna do him any favors. But he's not Barry Bonds,
you know, He's not like a I just have disdainer,
because that's what gets the writers to not vote for you.
All you work nice to me, You didn't do this.
I'm gonna as a protest, I'm going to pulled off
on voting few fear because we know voters do stuff

(19:06):
like that. I just don't see Chris Sale being that
feign no, no, all, I know.

Speaker 4 (19:10):
I meant it more from the overall numbers, right, that
you only have one hundred and thirty eight wins. Well,
we're normally you know, you're not getting a sip.

Speaker 1 (19:19):
Wins has been really devalued a lot in the but that,
like wins is not that is not that big benchmark anymore.

Speaker 4 (19:25):
Yeah, but who's who's the voting electorate? Like well, I
mean maybe by the time he's done, if he gives
you another two or three years, it'll start to turn
over to where we look into war and some of
the dominance because you go back to sales time in Chicago.
I mean, there's some ridiculous performances where he was cy
you on top voter, top voting, top five, what six

(19:46):
years in a row, and all those kind of things,
and then to finally get one here just a huge
comeback year.

Speaker 1 (19:53):
It's good.

Speaker 4 (19:54):
Good to see all those ex white Sox pitchers doing
really well. Him and Rodan and all these other guys. Yes,
but they didn't. They didn't get paid. They got moved on.

Speaker 1 (20:04):
White sock Joe. Uh. You know the and and the
best part about this, right is that whenever a SiO,
whenever something like this comes up, and certain stats come
up with triple crowns, I always love to look stuff
up on the internet because I always find stuff from
baseball like years and years and years ago, and I go, oh,
my goodness, that's just insane. And you know what I
found today, which was which is just absolutely right? What's going? Okay,

(20:27):
it's absolutely mind blowing right now, the pitcher with the
most career innings pitched in Major League Baseball, who do
you think it is, most career, most best pitched, most
active pitcher right now, with the most active pitchers right now. Yeah,
I was gonna go Ryan, if we're going, I know,
Ryan seventy five, he's still pitching. He probably still.

Speaker 4 (20:49):
Could give you a couple of innings just today's game,
right justin Verlander.

Speaker 1 (20:55):
Thirty four hundred okay, which is not bad, right, thirty
for it's a lot of innings. He's forty one years,
has always been pitching one thirty four hundred innings, right yep,
the most innings pitched in a career. Okay, most innings
pitch are now, someone pitched twenty two seasons. I mean
this is he's pitched a lot of innings and he's

(21:15):
forty one and he's at thirty four hundred. Cy Young,
in a record that will never be broken, pitched a
total of seven thousand and three hundred and fifty six innings. Well,
it is career courts is back when guys would start
forty five games a year but still well, guy finished
seventy three hundred innings. He would throw four hundred innings

(21:39):
a year. Now when guys get to one eighty, it's oh,
that's way too much, man, one eighty, way too my kay, God,
it's way too much for a guy. Can't do that.

Speaker 4 (21:46):
Yeah, but we talk about how many complete games like
we laugh at it over the course of the year.

Speaker 1 (21:50):
And you know, the Dodgers win.

Speaker 4 (21:52):
With with the heavy usage of the bullpen precipitated by
all the injuries. And then they they had the trial
period during the regular season, so it was well formulated,
well versed, and had plenty of data to back it up.
The decisions that they made for Dave Roberts, who's on
his slam this Sucker Down tour going in the off

(22:14):
season where they walk away with the World Series titles.
So we'll see how many more teams adopt that.

Speaker 1 (22:18):
But I don't know.

Speaker 4 (22:20):
You and I got to the point where we were
applauding any pictures. They felt like we needed to do
a name. You know, let's give him a shout out
for going six innings anymore.

Speaker 1 (22:28):
Yeah, that's what it is, and that's what it is.

Speaker 4 (22:30):
So like we talk about complete games, and you know, Sale,
that wasn't his thing. He didn't have a ton of
those in his career. But you go back in the
annals of history where you had guys that were completing fifteen, eighteen,
twenty games a year. Now, you'd be lucky if you
have a staff. Hell, half the league didn't get anywhere
near that.

Speaker 1 (22:51):
So again, it's really fun to always see stuff like that.
You know, he just sees, oh my god, seventy three,
the guy averaged like three hundred fifty. But it's insane, right,
just the difference.

Speaker 4 (23:04):
I mean, one of the great stats, and I brought
it up with you talking to you earlier about Sale,
was the fact that he has been in the top
ten for hit batsman seven times in his career. We
go along with those eight All Star games, eight double
digit win seasons, seven times inside the top ten, Eira,
I can do all the positives. I like the fact
that it was I got pinpoint control and you're getting

(23:24):
off by damn plate.

Speaker 1 (23:26):
I'm plunking you. So there's the MLB Hall of Fame conversation.
Get ready for the phrase Chris Sale hall of Fame. Oh,
I like it, White Sox. Hat what NFL star is
also headed to the Hall of Fame? What polarizing NFL
head star is going to the Hall of Fame after
being named the semi finalist today. That's coming up in
ninety seconds. But first, Manzi Blanos has what's trending in

(23:49):
the wide world of sports, including how much money she
lost on The Sun's nixt game tonight.

Speaker 7 (23:54):
All the money lost, all the money, all.

Speaker 1 (23:58):
The money I lost, all the money.

Speaker 7 (24:00):
I lost it all, yes, every every single in fact,
can I borrow some money?

Speaker 1 (24:03):
Doctor? Sure? Thanks you excellent and see a problem? Sure?

Speaker 2 (24:07):
All good in the world. Then then nothing to worry about.

Speaker 4 (24:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (24:10):
The Knicks had a one thirty eight to one twenty
two victory over the Sons, who were playing without Kevin Durant,
Jalen Brunson Karl Anthony Towns becoming the first pair of
teammates with a thirty point double.

Speaker 2 (24:20):
Double this season.

Speaker 7 (24:21):
Brunson thirty six points, tenn assists, big Bodega. Right, that's
Karl Anthony Towns for you. Yeah, there we go, thirty
four points and ten rebounds. There the Knicks, how about
this for you, mister Smith, doctor Smith. The Knicks have
scored at least one hundred and thirty points in consecutive
games for the first time in thirty six years. Thirty
six thirty six years. So you should feel good about

(24:44):
your Knicks.

Speaker 2 (24:45):
Look at them.

Speaker 7 (24:46):
Look at them. If you're a seventy six ers fan,
you shouldn't feel good about them.

Speaker 1 (24:49):
The Grizzlies.

Speaker 7 (24:51):
That one's seventeen to one eleven. They are now two
to twelve. They're in the last place in the Eastern Conference.
They just have the worst record overall, by the way,
in the just the worst record. They did have their
Big three quote unquote playing and nothing happened except Paul
George left in the fourth quarter with the hyper extended knee.
Sayne hyper extended a month ago that kept him out

(25:12):
of the start of the season. He ended with two
points and four rebounds. Joel NB thirty five points and
eleven rebounds. Tyrese Maxey was three of thirteen from the
field and they with just eight points the Warriors, they
cruise passed the Hawks won twenty to ninety seven. The
Clippers beat the Magic at into a Dome one oh
four to ninety three. The Cavaliers crushed the Pelicans one
twenty eight to one hundred, and the Bucks defeated the

(25:32):
Bulls one twenty two to one oh six. Jana santetekunpo
forty one points, nine rebounds and eight assists in the win.
The Rockets took down the Pacers one thirty to one thirteen,
and the Thunder top the Trailblazers one oh nine to
ninety nine. In college hoops, Yukon women's basketball coach Gino
Ariyama is officially the winning as coach in NCAA history,
with one thy two hundred and seventeen wins. That sounds

(25:56):
like so much because it is on the ice. The
Sabers beat the King in La one zero, the crack
and shut out the Predators three zero and the Stars
beat the Sharks five to two, and yes, Week twelve
of the NFL kicks off later today. Already, if you're
on the East Coast Steelers at Brown's Thursday Night Football,
all of that starts at eight fifteen Eastern time. Browns

(26:16):
tight end David and Jok who was removed from the
injury report, and.

Speaker 2 (26:19):
He will play.

Speaker 7 (26:21):
Guys, it's been fun.

Speaker 1 (26:22):
That's thanks. Thanks doctor Monsey.

Speaker 4 (26:26):
By the way, you know you did a lot on
the Sixers and you didn't make the obvious nurse joke.

Speaker 1 (26:31):
Good on you.

Speaker 3 (26:32):
Oh, I didn't even think of that.

Speaker 1 (26:35):
What failure?

Speaker 7 (26:36):
I am?

Speaker 4 (26:37):
Oh no, no, no, no, no, no no. You got
Jason to commit to giving you money. You won, You're right?

Speaker 7 (26:43):
Can we just can we start all over like, pretend
pretend I didn't just do all.

Speaker 2 (26:48):
This so I can get the nurse joke in man.

Speaker 7 (26:51):
Man, now, I'm gonna think about that all night.

Speaker 1 (26:53):
Okay. Games by doctor Bye doctors, Bye Doctor Monsey, Bye
bye Doctor Mony. Thank you. Jason Smith Show with Mike
Carmon Live from the Direct dot Com Studios. So the
semifinalists for the Pro Football Hall of Fame were released
earlier today, twenty five people who made it to the semifinals.

(27:14):
The list is headlined by two players, Antonio Gates, who
was in his second year of eligible. I don't know
how he didn't get in before, but you look, sometimes
writers hold things in the past to them, the ped
stuff allegedly allegedly, right, I disagree with that, but maybe
that's what allegedly allegedly allegedly. But the name headlining everything

(27:35):
is Eli Manning, whoa There is no more polarizing candidate
in for the Hall of Fame in the last I
don't know fifteen years than Eli Manning. Eli Manning is great,
Eli Manning is overrated. You can make either argument, and
you have the stats to back it up. I could

(27:55):
see it. However, this is one of those cases where
it doesn't matter what you think because Eli Manning's getting
in the Hall of Fame. You can agree or disagree,
but he's getting in. The guy had an incredibly illustrious
and productive and dynamic career. Right He threw for three
hundred and thirty six touchdowns. Everybody in the NFL list

(28:16):
in the top He's in the top fifteen of touchdown passes.
They're all in the Hall of Fame except for Carson Palmer, right,
every one of those guys is in. Yes, you may
have not liked Eli Manning and how he carried himself.
His body language was bad, but he was incredibly dynamic.
He threw for twenty five to thirty touchdowns a year.
And oh, by the way, he wins two Super Bowls.

(28:36):
He beats Tom Brady for two Super Bowls, and he
wins two Super Bowls being the guy that takes the
Giants down for the game winning points, the touchdown pass
to beat Brady when they were undefeated, the field goal
to beat Brady in the Super Bowl. In their rematch,
he got them out from the shadow of their own
end zone in the final couple of minutes with a
big fifty yard pass to Mario Manningham on the sidelines

(28:59):
where I don't know how he got it in there
the way he did. And you can sit back and say, well,
but the Super Bowl. No, I'm sorry, super Bowls and
NFL count for a lot. It's not a cherry on
top of the Sunday. Eli Manning is getting in because
of what he did in the Super Bowls. Yes, his
playing career was terrific and he was much better than
you want to give him credit for. But in the end,

(29:21):
what he did in the playoffs, winning two Super Bowls, Yeah,
he's getting the Hall of Fame.

Speaker 4 (29:25):
Epitomized guts because he took the field every week, and
I get it. Folks will look at the overall records
and they were mid except twice. Well, those two are
pretty big exceptions, right for how we count things, particularly
in the National Football League.

Speaker 1 (29:40):
How many times have you heard even this year as
you talk, oh.

Speaker 4 (29:43):
MVP Race, it doesn't matter if they don't win the
Lombardi Okay, so, okay, a regular season award?

Speaker 1 (29:50):
Who cares?

Speaker 4 (29:51):
He did it twice, right, and on the big, big
stage against Brady killing the perfect season once, big drum,
big moments. An era of the quarterbacking play when you
were still take shots downfield more frequently and not because
you were, you know, just being reckless, because that's how

(30:12):
you're seeing now, even just in that recent just that
recently with his retirement of you would still have quarterbacks
take shots downfield. Go look at the body of work
of Peyton, Manning and some of the others that they
had their shares of interceptions. And yeah, Peyton got off
to a great start with his rookie year. But all
of that to say, all right, he's got as many

(30:34):
Super Bowls as his brother. Right, it may not have
the the regular season win totals that get you excitable
and all of those things. And Peyton's the smartest man alive,
but you know what, he won both his super Bowls.
Peyton got dragged to his second and needed Bracos Wilder
to fill in for a while. Couch just the same.

(30:55):
But you know, you can't tell the tale of the game.
And that's usually where folks get into it. The fact
that we have to have the debate to be is silly.
The guy walks in.

Speaker 1 (31:06):
And you know, and the other part of it is
this to just think about the The other half is, well,
what does the rest of the class look like? Who
could go in? Could he get overshadowed by other people
who need to get in as well? And that's not
the case. It's why he's headlining this new class because
the people coming back from last year. Yeah, okay, Antonio Gates,
who should get in, right, Jared Allen, Tory Halt, Reggie,

(31:30):
Wayne Willie Anderson, Darren Woodson, Eric Allen, Rodney Harrison. These
are all really, really good players, all terrific players. Maybe
they'll be Hall of Famers one day, but none of
them are gonna get in over Eli. Right, and the
new players coming in now, Luke Keikley, Terrell Suggs, Adam Vinteri,
Earl Thomas, Like, do any of these guys get in
over Eli Manning? They don't? So, Eli, when you when

(31:52):
you are headlining a class, guess what you're gonna get in? Right? Like, Look,
that's the ESPN head of Eli Manning headlining twenty five.
You're getting in. It's not if it's Eli one of
the and and here's it's stacked with a bunch of
people that have to get into I can see where
the support's not going to be there. But there's nobody
else you're going to support more than Eli Manning on
this list. Yeah, Jason, what's the other thing that separates

(32:16):
Eli Manning from all of these people?

Speaker 2 (32:18):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (32:20):
He hosted Saturday Night Live. That well, that is true.
He's the number of Super Bowls he has.

Speaker 4 (32:28):
Let's see, you've got Vinitaria, You've got You've got a
couple of guys.

Speaker 1 (32:31):
Nitary's got that true, Vnentari's.

Speaker 3 (32:32):
Got face looks like it wants to get.

Speaker 4 (32:34):
Punched punchable face. Uh does set him apart. He's the
only quarterback out of the twenty five he's getting in.

Speaker 1 (32:41):
Yeah, exit out about a Fresca exit swollen down The
Jason Show with Mike Harmon Studio. I think Frostburg is
still upset over the over the drafting of Eli Manning
by the Chargers twenty five years.

Speaker 3 (32:55):
What it got him upset?

Speaker 2 (32:58):
Are you?

Speaker 1 (32:58):
Well? You got Fliberate, you got Philip Rivers? Ah? You did? Okay?

Speaker 5 (33:02):
Come on, Phil, you put Philip Rivers on the Giants.
He has eight Super Bowls, Phil, he.

Speaker 1 (33:10):
Might still be playing if he was on the Giants. Uh.
Coming up next, speaking of football, we take a look
at what is suddenly a really big and interesting Thursday
night battle, and we'll tell you it might not go
the way you think it's gonna go. That's next right here,
Jason and Mike Fox Sports Radio. Nate cating wide right
in the playoffs against the Jets. Yeah, I was there.

Speaker 6 (33:34):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
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Speaker 1 (33:41):
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(34:02):
you forever and ever and ever again. Wherever you get
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it will be there just a couple minutes after we
get done here on the show. Now, we're getting set
for a bigger game than you think on Thursday Night football.
Wow wa wait but Steelers in the Browns terrible yet, Nah,
this is gonna be a bigger, closer game than you expect,

(34:24):
simply because the Steelers are bent on playing football like
it's nineteen seventy seven. Uh, it doesn't matter who the
quarterback is. The Steelers offense is just not very good. Yes,
they beat the Giants and the Jets. Russell will the Giants.
The Jets are pove awful. They're terrible, And now Russell
Wilson's starting to come back to earth a little bit,

(34:44):
not like he was great. But you clearly know that
the Steelers and specifically, Mike Tomlin just love Russell Wilson
more than they love Justin Fields, because if Justin Fields
had the game that Russell Wilson had last week, it
would be a weekly story of oh, is Justin Field's
gonna not play? Maybe I gotta go to Russell Wilson,
but no, because Russell Wilson is the chosen one for

(35:05):
some reason. Russell Wilson's not great, He's just okay. And
this is the thing about the Steelers that as competitive
as they've been for the past you know, thirty five
forty years, they've hit this stretch of the last few
like you're going back to, you know, getting towards the
end of the Roethlisberger era. This is one of the
most respected heritage teams in the league, with one of

(35:26):
the most respected head coaches, that should be able to
win free agency, get whatever skill position player they need
to come in and play wide receiver or running back
or quarterback, whatever it is, and instead they always seem
to be scraping the bottom of the barrel. We're gonna
go get Russell Wilson because you know, he's not gonna
cost anything. Justin Field's not gonna cost anything. We're gonna

(35:46):
stick with Najie Harris and Jalen Warren. Why because we are.
But they only run for like three point eight yards
per carry. Doesn't matter, the running game is not great.
Gonna go get wide receivers, Nope, not gonna do it,
Gonna get out bid for everyone only, Gonna make a
show that we're doing it because we want to win,
Like it's nineteen seventy seven. We're gonna run the football
a time, We're gonna play great defense, and that's our
preferred way to win. And honestly, that just crushed the

(36:08):
Steelers as far as being ultra competitive because of the
defense they've had the last few years. How do you
not how are you not either open to or how
do other players not want to go there and say
I'm gonna get paid and I'm wanna go win and
I want to go to Pittsburgh. That is just that
is just a mind blowing thing that a team like
Pittsburgh that continues to win. They don't have any stretches

(36:29):
where this team's gonna be bad. Not like the Cowboys,
the Jets, not a fly by night team every year.
The Steelers are good. You would think you'd be able
to get anybody you want you to come in and
all of a sudden, your offense matches the talent level
of your defense, and you're winning super Bowls because if
they had that, they can easily do that. Right, they're
not paying enough guys on offense, they could easily do that. No, no, no,

(36:50):
For some reason, this is how we want to win
and it doesn't make any sense, and it's what holds
them back. Yeah, it's the curiosity.

Speaker 4 (36:56):
I'd love to know inside the building what they think
and how close they get to and how much to
some of these big free agents, or whether there's a
philosophical thing with the organization that you know, you don't
upset the apple cart, right, you might get those guys
to the point, and we've certainly seen it with the
wide receivers and running backs.

Speaker 1 (37:14):
In the room.

Speaker 4 (37:15):
A lot of loud, loud, outspoken and at times chaotic things.
But they're all home grown, so there's something in the
water too. But they find greatness until it turns over.
I guess our guys need need to get fed more
so they go somewhere else. But yeah, it's it certainly
is a curious thing. You build on running defense and

(37:39):
then is Pittsburgh a deterrent. I don't know in terms
of as a city.

Speaker 1 (37:46):
Green Bay signs guys, right, green Bay signs guys, And
what do they say green Bay traffic? Rush hour traffic
in Green Bay is there's a car in the left
lane going north? No, I get the traffic and Greek No.
But yeah, it's it's a curiosity.

Speaker 4 (38:03):
I would love to know what what old Mike Tomlin
thinks on that in that regard as to why that
doesn't work or or hasn't been a big thing in
terms of bringing guys in. Obviously made the trade to
bring in Preston Smith and timely is high. Smith's a
little bit banged up, but you know, for Mike Tomlin,
he's got things more pressing. He's got to figure out

(38:24):
how to win on a Thursday night. Jason Smith's not done.
It's it's tough for me to say because the game
is going to be close. Because this is how the
Steelers do it.

Speaker 1 (38:32):
And I really like the new dynamic element to dynamics
the keyword of the last few minutes that the Browns
have to their offense because Tillman and Judy and Moore
really make it work. Man these guys all get tons
of targets. They throw the football a ton, But the
Steelers defense is really good. It's not gonna be a
high scoring game, but it's going to be closer than
you think, because this is how the Steelers play. Three

(38:54):
and a half points is scary that that half a
point at half that point that hook hook is really
is really tough, man. But I can see this being
a game where the Steelers are up by three and
somehow the Browns get the ball with like forty eight
seconds left on their own five and and and you know,
they wind up getting sacked and fumbled. It's a touchdown
and they win by ten, and it looks like they dominated.

(39:15):
But I will take the Steelers winning tomorrow, Tomlin winning
on a Thursday night. It's going to be much more
difficult than expected, low scoring game, but I'll take the Steelers.
I'll take Mike Tomlin to get that first team f victory.
Three and a half.

Speaker 4 (39:28):
Thirty five is your total, so not expecting the Jameis
Winston led offense.

Speaker 1 (39:32):
Did you say twenty five or thirty five? Twenty?

Speaker 4 (39:34):
It might be twenty five before j'all said done. All
boswell Field goals Okay.

Speaker 1 (39:40):
Oh I would like that. I got Bosswell in a
couple of leagues, the real MVP. How about that?

Speaker 4 (39:44):
Yeah, yeah, I'll take I'll take the Steelers to win outright,
but i'll take the three and a half.

Speaker 1 (39:49):
Oh two. What if I gave you two and a half,
I might still take Cleveland? Oh wow? Okay, all right.

Speaker 4 (40:00):
We're gonna have a nail bider to break down here
on Fox Sports Radio tomorrow.

Speaker 1 (40:03):
Yeah, I'm sure we'll talk about Russell Wilson the deep ball.
Look how good he throws it. Look at that moon ball,
love the moon ball. Coming up next, my buddy Ben Mallar.
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