November 22, 2024 • 40 mins
What a horrible deflating loss at home for the Lakers against the Magic. And Jason and Mike recap an epic TNF between the Steelers and Browns!
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you what you want to know, why Cam Reddish has
never really made it all the way through its own
Sam Reddish. All this talent, all the talent in the world,
all these different things. Lakers lead the Magic one to
eighteen one sixteen final twenty seconds of the game and
Anthony Davis gets foul on an inbound Okay, yeah, ad
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misses both free throws that's Cam Raddish's fault. No, this
is both free throws. So the Magic get the ball
back twenty seconds left and they have a chance to
tie the game or win it. And Wagner has the ball,
and uh, sorry, Franz Wagner. Non both Wagner, he has
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the ball. He's got three threes on the night, he's
got thirty four points. And you can see the way
he is hanging out behind the three point line that
he wants to take a three right, and you can't, really,
you can't give him so much room where he can
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shoot it. You'd rather him try to get into the
lane and try, and worse comes to worse, you go
to overtime. Yeah, but and and look, and I want
to hear what JJ Reddick has to say about this.
But you can see the way he's dribbling, and you
know in your head the mental clock is ticking down.
I gotta get out closer on him because he's going
to shoot a three. There may not be much time
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enough time for him to get in the lane and
get off the last second shot, and if there is,
it's an off balanced shot. And again, the worst thing
is we go to overtime. But Reddish stays too far
off of Franz Wagner, and Wagner rates gets a couple
of dribbles going, and you're watching it, and I'm saying,
he's gonna shoot the three. Get in his face. He's
gonna shoot the three. Reddish doesn't get nearly close enough.
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Wagner hits the three with two seconds left to go,
Orlando takes a one nineteen one eighteen lead. The Lakers
get a really bad last second shot from the corner
that doesn't even draw iron, and a horrendous loss for
the Lakers that ends their winning streak at six. I mean,
I look the missed free throws by Ad. You could
tell after his first one he wasn't in a great
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place mentally because he's getting ready to shoot the second
one and he shakes his head, Oh, like, I can't
be it, dude, you gotta let that go when you
gotta be ready for that next one. But he misses both.
But still you have to know, as the clock is
ticking down and he's gonna shoot a three, let's get
a little closer and make it a little bit more
difficult for the guy and not give him basically a
clean look at a three.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
Yeah, he slumps back expecting a drive, and Wagner's like,
we've gone, We've battled. At this point, we're the magic.
I'm going for the win, right, this.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
Is the all right?
Speaker 3 (03:31):
Are they gonna go for the pat to tie it?
Or as a twelve point underdog, are they going for
the win? Guess what he was? There was no doubt.
He was just rope a doping uh and saying all right,
daring him to come get him and he never does. Right,
slumps into the lane thinking that you're going to get
a big drive or maybe you can then force a
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kickout or whatever. Let's see, they were favored only by
four and a half points, so not as big as.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
I would have thought for a home here.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
But yeah, it gives him a full two three steps
space and kind of bites at a just what is
a crossover before he steps back and hits the big
three point shot.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
I mean, I I see it if they were moving
the ball, and Vagner was moving the ball a little
bit and they were trying to find around, but you
can tell he's hanging out outside the three point line.
He's just weaving back and forth to get in a
rhythm where I can get the ball and get a shot.
I mean, you know, I mean he was never going
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to take it too unless Reddish really gets up to
him right and he gets in his face and he
has no problem. But you got to make it more
difficult than that. Instead, Reddish is way too far off
him and he gets a really clean look at that three.
And again, I can't believe that was the strategy we'll
hear from JJ Reddick after the game. I can't believe that. Hey,
make sure Vogar's got enough room for him to be
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able to hit that three. Again, the worst comes to worse,
he gets in the it's a shock. You go to
overt right, I'll bury him.
Speaker 3 (05:03):
But the stat that is going to be resounding through
the night. As a team three of nine from the
foul line in the fourth quarter. You can talk about
Reddish and defensive and whatever. Like, he gave you free points.
They put you on the line and you gave them back.
There's your margin of error. Can't make it about one play, No,
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can't leave it to the judges.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
Smith. Oh look, no, you're right, you know, make those
free throws, right, make those free throws. But that's something
that's one guy making the free throws. This was okay,
how do we all as a team, now, how do
we overcome this? And you just went after the nick
to say, hey, he's still a nick. I don't know,
he's still nicking. You wonder why Cam Reddish has never broke.
He can't break. I mean it plays like again, I
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can't believe that was a laying too far off him.
But here we are, and that's a horrible loss for
the Lakers. Comebod, he was waiting for the big drive
to the basket. What do you got, Frostburg.
Speaker 4 (05:56):
The real big question guys coming off this game is
is Lebron James gonna know the Lakers lost because he's
not on social media?
Speaker 1 (06:06):
Oh that's a good question.
Speaker 5 (06:07):
No.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
No, he still looks at the the the printouts right
after the game is over, so we can see his stats,
and they put the score right at the top, So
I think he will know.
Speaker 4 (06:15):
You really think he takes those when they hand him. No,
he doesn't look at those.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
Or do you think he just knows off the top
of his head. Oh, he knows off the he knows
what it is. He's not even gonna know anything about this.
He's zero dark thirty.
Speaker 3 (06:27):
He does know that Mooky Betts was in an attendance
and he let mooki Bets down.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
What he did.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
What do you take away from this loss to night
Lebron loss? What are you talking about? I have seven.
I didn't even look at the score. I didn't even
look at this. I was minus hate. But that's okay.
I didn't look at the score. We lost, really okay,
so what's our record? Like like like thirty five and two?
What's our record? Now?
Speaker 5 (06:47):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (06:47):
Really? Really? We lost five games. That's the first loss.
That's a really bad loss. That is a really bad loss.
I mean, I know that things have been going great,
but this is a game that yes, with the miss
free throws in that horrible defensive strategy at the end,
that's a game you gotta get Vagner and Wagner go
for fifty six. You gotta close out. You know, how
does Michigan not won more? Not won national championships in
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basketball the last few years? They didn't have how do
you know? Okay, this is before Dave Portnoy gets involved, Like,
how do you have You were a basketball school for
a while, You had some pretty good guys on your team.
You know, how are you not going to any further,
Are you not further look at these guys? Uh so again,
we'll have more hoops coming up. We'll see what JJ
Reddick has to say following this really bad loss by
the Lakers. But Thursday night football a bit of a shocker.
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It goes to the Browns. They beat the Steelers twenty
four to nineteen, a game that was really boring at halftime,
but then touchdowns were scored and it started to snow
in that order. Yeah, and it was a really fun
game to watch, like anything in the snow, those big
flakes coming down was so much fun. And the Browns
pulled the upset tonight, and the Steelers have another performance
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that looks a lot like their last few games, even
despite the fact that there was a bunch of snow
that came down tonight. And it's a difficult conversation to
have because the Steelers are still eight and three. I know,
Mike Tomlin after the game seemed to blow everything off. Yeah,
I know, we're fine, We're fine. Come on, it's just snow. Yeah.
If it was justin Fields tonight that that did what
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he did instead of Russell Wilson would have been we're
looking at everything. We're looking at the film, We're looking
at all this stuff. But he was instrumental to one
of those scoring drives. I mean, tonight was tonight was
like a like watching a Spurrier at Florida. We's going
back and forth between Danny Wirfel and Terry Dean, like
watching Justin Field's come in and then Russell Wilson and
Justin Field's come in and Russell Wilson. But the Steelers
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offense is just no good, right, It's just it's just
no good. It's destri it's awful mid level, it's a
bunch of guys. And the Steelers are fortunate to be
a skuy. You thought that the Chiefs were having to
feel a lot of criticism about escaping for wins Hey,
at least they're closing out games in the fourth quarter.
And this is a Steelers offense that this is abysmal,
and and and you are really lucky to be where
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you are. And the change from Justin Fields to Russell
Wilson doesn't matter. You get the same quarterback play. You
get the same quarterback play, except now Russell Wilson's turning
the ball over a little bit more. Wilson was not
good for the first three quarters of the game, makes
a couple of passes in the fourth quarter, but it's
not enough. Wilson is washed, and the Steelers have assembled
the most pedestrian group of skilled position players really in
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the NFL, because Najie Harris and Jalen Warren. Look, they're
just guys, right, They're just guys. They're not great running backs,
they're just guys. The wide receiver position, they're just guys.
The quarterback position, they're just guys. And this is how
they're going forward on things. And I don't know how
they haven't after the Roethlisberger era ended. It was, hey,
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let's make sure we get we get a modern day
offense in here and not something like it's from nineteen
eighty two where we just run the football a ton
and throw the ball and we have to and you know,
Russell Wilson completes a couple of deep passes of Mike
Tommins patting himself on the back, saying, what a great
coach I told you about, Russell, Like, I don't see
how that this is where the Steelers' offense is at.
How they have not gone to the point where they
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understand if we're gonna win a championship, our offense has
to kind of be in at least the twentieth century,
maybe not the twenty first century, but the twentieth century
at least late in the twentieth century. But it's not.
And the Steelers try to win games sixteen to thirteen
every single week. And we've talked about success, and now
different teams judge success differently. For the Jets, if they
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get out of the tunnel with anybody falling on one
another and spilling a gainorrade cart, that success. Right. For
the Chiefs, it's hey, if they get to the super Bowl,
that's a success. For the Steelers, it can't just be
a we win enough games in the regular season and
then we win, maybe win a game in the playoff,
maybe not, and then we lose and go home. And
it's of the Steelers' own doing that. This is the
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team they have built. And I don't understand how they're
not the team at the top of the list. When
a big wide receiver becomes available, or a big quarterback
becomes available, how they couldn't make it, make a move
or a trade for a guy. How they don't build
the team that way? How they go cheap at quarterback,
cheap at running back. Yeah, I don't get it. I
don't get that. This is how the Steelers operate. And
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you can point to the records they are there are
eight and three. I'm like, yeah, you know what, maybe
they win as many playoff games as the Jets this year,
because who are they going to beat in the playoffs
when it comes down to it. I mean, if they
get one home game against a team that really is
not great, but like, do I think do I think
they would lose to the Chargers right now? No Charges
would beat them, right I'm like, if they somehow got
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to play the Colts and the first or okay, maybe
they would beat the Colts, but then they'd lose to
the next team because the next team is better. And
it's like that every year. It's like the Steelers have decided,
we're going to settle for pretty good. We're gonna settle
for winning enough in the regular season to make the playoffs,
maybe winning a playoff game. We're settling for pretty good.
And I don't know how that became acceptable with the
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Steelers over the last few years, but it has well.
But I mean, we go through that for a couple
of decades.
Speaker 3 (11:59):
Really, I mean go back to Cower in some of
the years that they had and obviously you had Roethlisberger,
and there was some sexiness as they went through the
offensive coordinators of the different how should we say mercurial
wide receivers through the years.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
That's the term we use in sports trade. What name, God, Haley,
I don't know who you're talking about, So just give
me some more names. Hey, I'll fight you if you
keep that up. Hey.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
The boy being that you go through.
Speaker 3 (12:25):
And into the Tomlin era, and for the Steelers, they're
all about stability, consistency, et cetera. So this fits with
the brand. Right, We're gonna be a team that is
in the mix every year. We're good, but we're not great. Right,
We're not gonna beat ourselves. Right coming into tonight they
were plus eleven. We talked about it last night. Plus
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eleven tied for second in terms of turnover differential. So
consistency there, We're gonna take care of the football. We're
not gonna beat ourselves. Some of the hallmarks of the
old Bill Belichick dynastic approach, but here you're looking for
the spectacular. I mean, when you look at their their
salary table and who really makes the money here. I mean,
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you got a couple of defenders led by TJ. Watt
that really make up the bulk of that. When you
know he's at thirty million dollars, Fitzpatrick's at twenty one,
Hayward at twelve six, et cetera, high Smith almost seven,
and then it starts to drift from there. Patrick Queen,
who was a captain last week, and all that that
we loved. I mean, there's a lot of your money
right there, those four guys, yeah, six, seven, twenty one,
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thirty right there. Offensively, George Pickings, you keep waiting to
be that guy. And he's heavily targeted four games with
Russell Wilson thirty eight targets. Yeah, keep him fed, keep
him happy, ish until he wants to fight people in
the back of the end.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
Zone and all that stuff.
Speaker 3 (13:44):
But all of that to say they're happy with being
consistently good, not great, versus ever really bottoming out. Right,
there's no you know, the old no guts, no glory
kind of situation. Back when I don't know, Terry Bradshaw's
playing quarterback. Hey, we're throwing the ball downfield, my guy
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gets it.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
Maybe they get it.
Speaker 3 (14:07):
Whereas now it's all right, we need high completion percentage,
take care of the football, and then Chris Boswell is
going to be our savior. I mean, that's the strategy
at this point. And you can beat a lot of
bad teams, but you couldn't beat a bad team tonight.
Couldn't beat those Cleveland Browns at home, and Mike Tomlin
can't win on Thursday.
Speaker 1 (14:26):
What happens when you settle for being very good? Where
will be very good? Will be very good every year?
Speaker 5 (14:31):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (14:31):
Okay, great? Yeah, and I'll stipulate too. I don't care.
I'd be okay with this for the next decade or
two of my life. And it depends on where you're
coming from, you how you judge success. I'd be happy
with that. As a Jets fan, No, but that's but
the Chiefs and the forty nine ers aren't happy with that.
It just every team all but even with Steeler fans.
Depending what generation you are, maybe you're okay with this.
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We're mid okay. Exit up by a Fresca exit swallowed Dome.
The Jason Smith Show with Mike Harmon Live, The Tireck
dot Com studios. We'll have more on this game coming
up next. Boy, what a missed opportunity for the Browns.
We'll get into what that means. Plus, you want to
talk about quarterbacks and a big day for quarterbacks? Have
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Speaker 2 (15:21):
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Speaker 6 (15:34):
Like the McRib, the song's back, baby, I didn't know
the song went anywhere. It did for three hours. It's
about time for my three hour McRib. I'm sorry, I've
I haven't had one in three hours.
Speaker 1 (15:48):
The countdown is on. Do you have a countdown clock
on your phone?
Speaker 5 (15:50):
No?
Speaker 1 (15:51):
Countdown? Wait? You fasted for three hours?
Speaker 5 (15:53):
No?
Speaker 3 (15:53):
No?
Speaker 5 (15:53):
No?
Speaker 1 (15:53):
Yeah, well let's see, hang on, I just had cheetos.
How about three hours? Yeah? I think about three hours withdraws. Yeah, No,
I'm fine, right because I shakes. I just had cheetah ooh,
we have shakes?
Speaker 3 (16:04):
No?
Speaker 1 (16:04):
Are you having the shakes? There's shakes. I'll have a shake.
You have a shake. That's not what I meant chocolate shake,
Charlot peanab but a shake from Fat South. Let's go
with draw shakes, No with drawl shakes, John Penum, butter shaking.
So now I want a giant sandwich jerk. Quarterbacks. Quarterbacks, quarterbacks,
Let's talk quarterbacks. Okay, so we'll get back into what
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we saw tonight between the Steelers and the Browns. In
a few minutes, we had the Steeler's side of things.
But boy, there's something for the Browns. That's just they
Browns fans just want to be banging their heads against
the wall. But today was a big day quarterback wise
in college football because we saw the top two recruits
in the class of twenty twenty five picked their schools right.
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We watched Deon Sanders and Colorado get the number two
overall recruit UH quarterback recruit in the country flipping from
USC to Colorado, and then long rumored, we thought it
might happen, and it did. Miss flips the number one
recruit in the class of twenty twenty five, Bryce Underwood,
who had committed to LSU, flips him to Michigan, And
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now Bryce Underwood has left LSU and is headed to Michigan.
Speaker 3 (17:13):
With ten to twelve point five million dollars, depending on
which report.
Speaker 1 (17:17):
And that is exactly how the founding fathers of Nil thought, Oh,
let's give the kids money when they come into college,
give them a little they should go big, make a
little bit of cash here. And now three years later
it's hey, this kid's making eleven million dollars.
Speaker 3 (17:31):
You made like all those old sad sack play a violin,
Chris Weber, Hey they could sell my jersey.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
Someone stor someone who hasn't even taken the SAT yet
is making that kind of money already just coming out
of school America kind of opportunity. But leaving USC for Colorado,
I get I get it because USC is not quite
what USC was. Coach Prime is much more attractive candidate
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because of what's going on this year this weekend. Oh dude,
if USC because that gets you say there's a lot
of wolves walking around neighborhoods, and yeah, but that gets
you bowl eligible watch out YEA. That I kind of get. However,
the big blinking red light warning signs that Bryce Underwood, right,
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this is a kid who just got a hand cannon, right,
but he is just he could just really throw it uh.
The fact that he flips after being committed to LSU
since January, right, like he is like he is just
you know, he's l s U l s U. But
you hear all these rumors all Michigan might flip them.
You know something is afoot, and that he flips is
not so much about Michigan. Oh, by the way, congratulations.
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However much money Dave Portnoy gave towards that today committed
at least he said four millions, said four million? Where
is your money getting that quarterback for this year? Dave?
Come on, Dave, come on, Portnoy, a couple of bets
to come through. You gotta you gotta, you gotta beat
Northwestern to be Bowl eligible. Man, come on, where was
your money this year? So gokets. The big point is
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that here this is again the blinking red light and
the warning is that it's not that LSU didn't give
Underwood what he wanted. It's not that suddenly it was, hey,
we're having trouble getting you this or that. The fact
that he left for Michigan, yes, and Michigan getting him
ten and a half million dollars nil money is a
big deal. But the fact that he left at this
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point tells me the blinking red lights and the warning
signs Brian Kelly is in a load of trouble at LSU,
and I mean a load of trouble is in He
may be out after this year. Because you can have
the first couple of years. Okay, we expected big things
ten and three, ten and four, Okay, we're winning ten
games as more, but we expect a little bit now
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six and four and you're three years into this contract.
Don't forget in college football, you can pay out money.
You just get new people to bring in money. All
you need. If Michigan was able to get ten and
a half million dollars in a few weeks to give
Bryce Underwood can find money to buy out Brian Kelly,
USC can buy out Lincoln Riley. You can see these
things happening, Brian Kelly. Really it could happen this offseason,
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because why else would you leave. I mean, it's not
like Sewan Moore's been showing I'm a great head coach,
right but you know that. But you know he's gonna
be there. You're from the state, You're a hometown hero,
right because Bellville is thirty miles from an Arboro. Oh,
by the way, how he got out of Bellville to
get to LSU. That that's on Michigan too. But you
know the fact that this is this is a flip
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coming at this point tells me that there's a lot
of trouble and either the recruiters weren't gonna didn't know
they were gonna be there, the coaches might not be there,
and there was too much. I don't know. If I
go to LSU and all of a sudden it's a
new coach, new thing. Yes, it's the number one recruit
in the country. You want to think that I'll get
that chance. But maybe it's a new offense, maybe new
something coming in that I don't like. These are the
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people that went after me, and that's where I gotta go,
because when you're an athlete, you always have to gotta
you know. I always tell the girls that I coach
when you're ready. Hey, as you get older, play for
who likes you. You got to play for coaches like
because they're gonna give you the opportunities to do things
that other coaches aren't. You can tell if you're one
of the coaches, you know, quote one of the coaches
players or if you're just someone on the team, you
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got to be one of those, one of the favorites,
and you will get an opportunity to do things. Now,
Bryce underw I'm sure was able to set whatever he wanted.
We're gonna set everything around you here at LSU X
Y and Z. New coaching staff comes in that may
be different. So why am I doing that when I
know I'm going to Michigan. Searon Moore just got the job.
Even if he winds up getting let go, It's a
couple of years from now. I'm on my way to
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the NFL. So Okay, this is what I'm doing. So
this tells me blinking red lights, Brian Kelly is insight.
It could be this off season he's out at LS.
Speaker 3 (21:40):
Yeah, I think a couple of things coming into play
that you were just talking about, you know, with Jay
Laser last Hour and and some of the overarching things
about you know, continuity, consistency, and strength of message within
a program, collegiate or professional. And for Michigan you get
it done. A lot of negative recruiting in the last
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twelve to twenty four months about all of the investigations
around the NCAA. So I understand why there might have
been a window where Underwood would say, you know what,
I'm gonna look at what else is out there, and right,
who else wants me?
Speaker 1 (22:13):
That's a big time program. LSU.
Speaker 3 (22:16):
It's history everything else. All right, the money's right, this
is all good. Look at the guys I'm running would
be running with. You get a call from Justin Jefferson,
maybe Joe Burrow that gives you a nod, all of
that stuff that you say, okay, cool, all right, this
is the place that works.
Speaker 1 (22:32):
And fine, well, Michigan it's stabilizes.
Speaker 3 (22:35):
Right, we're seeing there's not a lot of teeth and
really any penalties that are coming to bear. And Harbaugh's
in the pros anyway, but just in terms of other
recruits and potential problems in terms of making your experience
the best for you, not only financially but from a
winning perspective to put you on the path towards NFL
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start them. But LSU had that in place except for well,
now you're looking at another year with no playoffs. You're
looking at multiple losses each and every season. You're looking
at a coach that every time he hits the podium,
he literally hits the podium, right, saltiness about one thing
or another, bad optics, and I know you love the
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optics of things. And I mean, how many times has
he gotten into fights with guys on the sideline, players
coming on, players coming off, assistant coaches walking down and
screaming at them, Like all of that just says. That
just says there's unrest. And if you're a recruit and
you're watching these games, you're like, I'm gonna go play
for that, No sign up for that, And we're gonna
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lose three or four times a year, The hell with that.
Speaker 1 (23:38):
Yeah, I can make money somewhere else.
Speaker 3 (23:40):
So I can stay home. I've got all the creature
comforts here. I'm just up the road.
Speaker 1 (23:46):
They're in year two.
Speaker 3 (23:47):
They're desperate for a quarterback to come in and be
the guy. Right, McCarthy's gone a year. They had the
national title, but they're thirsty for more. Yeah, I can
come in and do that.
Speaker 1 (23:57):
Let's go exit out about a Fresco exit swalling down
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Speaker 7 (24:18):
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Steve Listen, we got to drop the accent for what's trending. Okay,
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Speaker 7 (24:31):
We had quite a finish in the NBA late game.
LA had been seven to zero at home. The Lakers
were hosting and leading Orlando until in the final seconds
a three pointer made by Franz Wagner of the Magic,
who had thirty seven points eleven assists. Orlando then just
needed to play some d In the final couple seconds
Magic TV.
Speaker 1 (24:50):
I found Anthony Davi, which corn around, jumpers up and
no good, and that'll do it. The Magic are gonna
get out of Los Angeles with a win. Hollywood ending
for the bat.
Speaker 7 (25:00):
One nineteen to won eighteen the final. In this one,
Lakers had been seven to zero at home, but they
will rue the missed free throws just in the last
four minutes of this game, Austin Reeves missed a pair
of free throws, Lebron James missed one, Anthony Davis missed one,
and then Davis was at the line with under twenty
seconds left, holding a two point lead, and he missed
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both free throws. Orlando made them pay. San Antonio over.
Utah won twenty six pet eighteen Chris Paul of the
Spurs ten assists, won turnover. Utah's record now three and twelve.
Toronto had been three and twelve, but got a home
win against Minnesota one ten to one oh five r
Jay Barrett thirty one points, and at Charlotte in overtime, hornetsbeed.
Detroit won twenty three one twenty one. LaMelo Ball thirty
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five points, nine assists. Paul George of the Sixers will
miss at least a couple games with a hyper extended knee,
the same knee he heard in the preseason. Phillies record
two and twelve. Mavericks guard Luka Donsiches out at least
a week with a spraying wrist. We had snow and
win for the NFL game at Cleveland tonight. The Browns
won it over rival Pittsburgh twenty four to nineteen, as
Nick Chubb had two short touchdown runs, including the game
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winner with about a minute left, so the Browns, even
with three turnovers, take this one. Pittsburgh had scored back
to back touchdowns in the fourth for the lead, but
earlier the Steelers were stopped on fourth and short two
separate times. Bears running back DeAndre Swift returned to limited
practice today after a groin injury. Cowboys wide receiver Ced
Lamb did not practice today back in foot injuries. Forty
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nine Ers QB Brock Purty only threw at the start
of practice today due to his sore shoulder. In the
AL MVP voting, it was unanimous for the Yankees Aaron
Judge in the National League Most Valuable Player voting. It
was unanimous for Dodgers DH show Hey Otani. Quite a finish.
In college hoops in the Bahamas, in double overtime, Baylor
won its top twenty five matchup over Saint John's on
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a three pointer at the Buzzer ninety nine to ninety eight.
Then number eleven Tennessee took care of Virginia sixty four
forty two nhlins for Vegas and New Jersey, Colorado one
two to one at Washington Capital. Star Alex Ovechkin is
expected in this four to six weeks with a broken leg.
Calgary and Minnesota with wins, and Columbus in over time
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won seven to six over Tampa Bay.
Speaker 1 (27:14):
Back to you, Thank you, Steve. The Jason Smith Show
with Mike Carmon Live from the tire rack dot Com Studios.
Now we get from college football to the NFL. When
it comes to quarterbacks, right, we talked about Russell Wilson
a few minutes ago. Look, the guy's washed. Mike Tomlin
can pretend he's good all he wants, but he's not. Uh,
this is not an I don't intend to make the
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Browns fans go through all the fields right now.
Speaker 3 (27:40):
Yeah, because they've never done anything, no, no, in acts
of aggression against the Fox Sports Radio studios before.
Speaker 1 (27:46):
However, however, we weren't on the air. It's okay. However,
watching Jamis Winston tonight lead the Browns back to victory
not an incredible game for him. He did you know,
he did turn the ball over. But the last four
games he's got two three hundred yard games. The Browns
have a lot of life. They have discovered three great
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offensive weapons in Tillman and Jerry Judy. Who, Mike, this
is the Jerry Judy the Broncos are going. We wanted
this guy when he was twenty two. We've got to
get rid of him. You know, Elijah Moore who's now
catching a lot of passes for the Browns.
Speaker 7 (28:20):
Like that.
Speaker 1 (28:21):
He got three wide receivers that are good. You got
a good tight end. David and Joku. Just think had
the Browns done the right thing, had they stood up
and said, you know, week four, we understand that Deshaun
Watson is never gonna be good again. All right. We've
given him a long time, his time away. He doesn't
who knews how much he even wanted to be here,
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but we guaranteed him all the money, so he says, sure,
I'll show up. You can see that mentally, he was
never checked in to playing football for the Cleveland Browns.
If you had made that tough decision and said week four, okay,
we've had him for him up. We know he stinks.
We got to make a move. We asked, we have
to pay him, but we don't have to play. Jameis
Winston's on the roster. The team has no life there.
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It's very lethargic. Let's change things. Had they gone to
Winston week four right now, they're probably five and six
right there in the mix of the playoffs instead of
three and eight and being just as close to being
the periphery of the playoffs as you are to picking
first overall, Like, if you had just made that move,
you would be in such a better place right now
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because a couple of those games against also Rams you
would have been able to win. I mean, just it's
a big jolt of energy. And sometimes not that a
change always results that you always have to make a change,
but when there's no other choice, I mean, you have
to say, all right, we've gone as far as we
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can with this. We're just gonna throw a guy out there.
Because all you were doing, if you were the Browns,
when you were just hoping that we're gonna continue to
keep repeating this until somehow Deshaun Watson breaks through and
he was never going to. But if you had gone
to Jameis Winston after giving him a month, hey, guess what,
you're five and six right now, and you're feeling pretty
good because you got weapons on offense, your defense is
good enough. You're not an elite team, but hey, who's
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really elite? You know? In the NFL? Right now you're
a five, you're a five and six team, and you
go on a run at the end. Certainly you can
win games in the division. Just watch you beat the
Steelers right now in the snow, Like, where would you
be right now if you had made that tough, that
difficult but necessary decision a month and a half ago.
Speaker 3 (30:25):
Oh, it's a question. We ask about Jerry Jones, we
ask about Haslam, and then we well, we can extend
to your guy, to my guy, and all of that
to say, the owners don't get out of their own
way stubbornness, whether it's money that still needs to be
paid out or egg on their face for money that
has been paid in this case to Shaun Watson in
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the contract. Look, you had proof of concept between injuries
and the frequency which he incurred them since getting his
deal after that year of operation shut down in Houston.
That you're looking at a guy who had been a
terrible quarterback.
Speaker 1 (31:02):
Yeah, you go sixty three percent completion rate. That's great.
Speaker 3 (31:06):
It led you to nothing. At least with Winston, there's
an energy there's a there's movement of the football and
Jerome Ford filled in for Nick Chubb. Fine, well, Nick
Chubb's back, and you scored a couple of touchdowns tonight
against pretty tough defense of Pittsburgh in a weird game.
It was an odd game, no question about it. But
you know, there's there's just a different boost to and
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juice to the offense. And I think everybody in the
in the locker room saw it, right. You remember the
body language and look, I don't I don't pretend to
be a have a doctor and all of that stuff.
When you know, to start showing up on you know,
different montage shows of.
Speaker 1 (31:45):
Hey remember that quarterback. Yeah, let's talk about him. You
know that.
Speaker 3 (31:47):
You remember the eighties or NFL of the the aughts.
But it's that kind of thing with Deshaun Watson where
you could just see there was a little less all right,
let's go win this game than there is with Jameis Winston.
He was the guy doing the pregame hype speech for
crying out loud when he was the backup that.
Speaker 1 (32:04):
Told you everything you needed to know. Oh telling you man,
this is but this is why you make the big
money to make decisions like that. This is where stefans
He's got to stand up to Jimmy Hasien. Where Jimmy
Hassem's got to understand are we trying to win or not? No,
I'm paying them, So he's gonna start. That's just stupid.
Speaker 3 (32:20):
That's what's just stupid. Stefanski is not innocent in this.
In the end, you could send the guy out on
the field. You know what, Deshaun wasn't feeling right, Jimmy, Yeah,
because and then you say, Jimmy.
Speaker 1 (32:30):
Jimmy, because who do you have to be more beholden to?
All right, Yeah, well, well the owner wants it, but
there's there's fifty three guys in that locker room that
are putting their bodies on the line every single week,
and you're gonna sit here and say sorry, guys the
owner says, we're going with him.
Speaker 3 (32:44):
Yeah, but you're also Stefanski if you're able to if
you go and say that to Jimmy and say, hey, Jimmy,
blank you this guy's starting because we can win if
he fires you.
Speaker 1 (32:52):
Guess what, I got a better job unless I go
to the Jets. That it's the worst job. That's but
anywhere else would be a better job, You get a
better job. We go exit out about a Fresco exit
swollen Dome. The Jason Smith Show with Mike Carmon live
from the Tireck dot Com Studios. Coming up next, Final
thoughts on the Big Laker loss and you want another quarterback?
Hot take one guy who it looks like his career
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is over. I guarantee you he'll be starting in the
NFL next year. Jenny's not Aaron Rodgers and it's not
Jimmy Garoppolo. That's coming up next right here, Jason and
Mike Fox.
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Speaker 6 (33:48):
Jason side note. Yeah, so I'm on HBO right, okay?
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Speaker 1 (33:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (33:53):
Put on the shop with Lebron for five minutes and
turn it off.
Speaker 1 (33:56):
Wow.
Speaker 6 (33:57):
I don't know what I was expecting, but not bad.
Speaker 1 (33:59):
You lost a five minutes. Hey, now that's what Okay,
It's a different story for a different day. The Shop yeah, yeah,
it's not good. I stopped after the after the haircut's done.
Speaker 6 (34:09):
I'm done. This seems weird. I just want to see
what Drake would say. And they're like talking like they
don't know each other.
Speaker 1 (34:15):
It's just weird.
Speaker 3 (34:16):
Yeah, the concepts also, you know, I don't like it.
I mean, just go watch trading places. Yeah, not trading places.
Speaker 1 (34:22):
Trading place, trading spaces. No, no, no, no, he's gonna
watch trade looking good, Billy Ray, feeling good, Mortimer, No, no, no,
I was.
Speaker 3 (34:30):
I was going to our coming to America. I was
taking to the barber shop. Sure it's been done before,
We've done it better. And immediately I'm like, yeah, let's
go to the I'm like.
Speaker 1 (34:43):
Eddy Murphy, wrong movie, looking good, Lewis, Oh, Billy Ray again.
The Lakers defense on that final play just baffles me
that Cam Reddish wasn't close enough to Fronz Vagner, who
you know is going to take a three the clock
because inside of five seconds a two is never on
the table and he has more than enough room to
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hit that three to win the game. That is just
that is just a deflating loss for the Lakers. It
should have been seven in a row instead, it's a
one nineteen one eighteen loss. Now it feels to me
like you're still harboring some resentment over his time with
the Knicks on Cam Reddish, that there's still a little
bit of see see you want to see. I told you,
I wonder why Cam Reddish has never made it through
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despite the fact he's so talented. It's it's stuff like that. Again.
I can't believe that was the plan, was for him
to be so far off. A guy you know is
gonna take a bleeping fee when they're down too. But
yet here we are. Here, we are, That's what we're here.
Speaker 3 (35:38):
We are once again again three for nine from the
free throw line in the fourth quarter, as outlined by
Steve Dessager at the News Desk a little bit earlier too.
You gotta take care of business, right. Yes, it's it's
a bad defensive lapse, bad judgment. But what's the first
thing you're teaching, Hey, get to the free throw line.
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We're staying after practice, after the game, do your interviews.
Get back out here, exit out a bout a Fresco,
exit swollen dome. Jason Smith, Mike Harmon. Now, the final
quarterback story of the night.
Speaker 1 (36:10):
Because again, for as much as as much as I
talk about how he stinks, I kind of felt for
Daniel Jones today. Yeah, we met the media basically saying goodbye,
goodbye to because he knows he's not playing again, because
that look that we told you a month and a
half ago. By week ten or so, the Giants are
going to bench Daniel Jones. He's not going to play
again because they don't want to be on the hook
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if he gets hurt to pay him twenty five million
dollars next year. It's why the Broncos did it with
Russell Wilson last year. More teams are going to start
doing this in the future, and he's never going to
play for them again. And still they have him in practice.
He was playing safety at practice, they which is like, dude,
what if he gets hurt at practice? That's just stupid.
What are you doing?
Speaker 3 (36:50):
Oh, It's kind of like Dak Prescott being on crutches
and he's standing on the side.
Speaker 1 (36:55):
He could still get hurt and practice and you could
be on the hook. What are you doing? But the
big thing is this is that is Daniel Jones gonna
be on the team the rest of the season or not.
And he was asked that question today and he said,
I don't know. I don't know if I'm gonna where
I'm gonna be. This is where I am today. And
he's been a good leader, he's a good teammate. I'm
sure he wants to stay. The Giants have to decide
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is it worth it to have him stay or is
it a reminder that, Hey, we're moving on and things
were screwed up, and we have a guy here who's
not gonna play for us anymore, and it's best for
us to let him go and go sign someplace else.
I'll tell you this, I'm the Giants. I keep Daniel
Jones not because you're gonna play for me again. But
the minute we cut him, someone's gonna sign.
Speaker 3 (37:37):
He knows what he's sees, someone safety spot on the
scout squad.
Speaker 1 (37:41):
How about you'd like to change positions, Daniel and start
playing safety for us like that mid NFL career position change.
But the reason I keep missing back, someone's gonna someone's
gonna pick him up. But there's no reason the Giants
can't hold on to because it's not like, oh, if
you cut him after June first, before June first, they
can let him go. It's fine, but it's not gonna
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be a great free agent quarterback class. And it's not
a great quarterback class in the draft. The Giants will
rouse sticking with him and not moving up for JJ
McCarthy like they should have done last year if they
really wanted a guy. Yo, Shaduro Sanders is gonna be
really good. But outside of that, anybody else really like
Carson Beck that much? He's really that great. No, there's
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not a great class. Daniel Jones will be available. The
Giants will get a fifth round pick for him, and
they will get something, and he will go someplace next
year and be a bridge starter until their next quarterback
is ready. There's seven or eight teams that I'd be
looking for a quarterback this year, and outside of shaduor Sanders,
who else is gonna walk in and start right away?
Daniel Jones will wind up somewhere else next year starting.
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And I just I've had this vision all day today.
It's gonna be with the Jets. He's gonna go crazy,
he's gonna go across the locker room, and it's gonna
be him starting for the Jets until Jordan Travis or
whoever the hell else is ready, But he's gonna be
starting in the NFL next year. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (39:01):
The big question is with athletes first, his agency, how
much pressure do they try to put on the Giants
to say, hey, uh, an injury pops up, he might
be able to go latch on with the team and
play some substantive football and audition now right and get
into a new situation. So you know, how much with
the family organization and their history and do the right
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thing kind of thing do they say, all right, Daniel
Jones going and spread your wings and fly, We're done
with you here and look being.
Speaker 1 (39:31):
That family team. I can see them doing that, right.
We want to be have that big image of a
family team. We don't want it to be awkward. But
at the same time, you'll you'll get something to an asset,
you'll get something for him. Hey, we're gonna trade you.
We're gon trade you, or we'll let you go by
this date. But after the beginning of free agency and
stuff starts to dry up, someone's gonna trade for Daniel Jones.
Speaker 3 (39:49):
By the way, his speech pretty pretty damn good. I
encourage folks to watch it.
Speaker 1 (39:54):
Exit. How about a Fresca exit swollen. Don't for my
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you what you want to know, why Cam Reddish has
never really made it all the way through its own
Sam Reddish. All this talent, all the talent in the world,
all these different things. Lakers lead the Magic one to
eighteen one sixteen final twenty seconds of the game and
Anthony Davis gets foul on an inbound Okay, yeah, ad
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misses both free throws that's Cam Raddish's fault. No, this
is both free throws. So the Magic get the ball
back twenty seconds left and they have a chance to
tie the game or win it. And Wagner has the ball,
and uh, sorry, Franz Wagner. Non both Wagner, he has
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the ball. He's got three threes on the night, he's
got thirty four points. And you can see the way
he is hanging out behind the three point line that
he wants to take a three right, and you can't, really,
you can't give him so much room where he can
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shoot it. You'd rather him try to get into the
lane and try, and worse comes to worse, you go
to overtime. Yeah, but and and look, and I want
to hear what JJ Reddick has to say about this.
But you can see the way he's dribbling, and you
know in your head the mental clock is ticking down.
I gotta get out closer on him because he's going
to shoot a three. There may not be much time
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enough time for him to get in the lane and
get off the last second shot, and if there is,
it's an off balanced shot. And again, the worst thing
is we go to overtime. But Reddish stays too far
off of Franz Wagner, and Wagner rates gets a couple
of dribbles going, and you're watching it, and I'm saying,
he's gonna shoot the three. Get in his face. He's
gonna shoot the three. Reddish doesn't get nearly close enough.
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Wagner hits the three with two seconds left to go,
Orlando takes a one nineteen one eighteen lead. The Lakers
get a really bad last second shot from the corner
that doesn't even draw iron, and a horrendous loss for
the Lakers that ends their winning streak at six. I mean,
I look the missed free throws by Ad. You could
tell after his first one he wasn't in a great
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place mentally because he's getting ready to shoot the second
one and he shakes his head, Oh, like, I can't
be it, dude, you gotta let that go when you
gotta be ready for that next one. But he misses both.
But still you have to know, as the clock is
ticking down and he's gonna shoot a three, let's get
a little closer and make it a little bit more
difficult for the guy and not give him basically a
clean look at a three.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
Yeah, he slumps back expecting a drive, and Wagner's like,
we've gone, We've battled. At this point, we're the magic.
I'm going for the win, right, this.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
Is the all right?
Speaker 3 (03:31):
Are they gonna go for the pat to tie it?
Or as a twelve point underdog, are they going for
the win? Guess what he was? There was no doubt.
He was just rope a doping uh and saying all right,
daring him to come get him and he never does. Right,
slumps into the lane thinking that you're going to get
a big drive or maybe you can then force a
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kickout or whatever. Let's see, they were favored only by
four and a half points, so not as big as.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
I would have thought for a home here.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
But yeah, it gives him a full two three steps
space and kind of bites at a just what is
a crossover before he steps back and hits the big
three point shot.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
I mean, I I see it if they were moving
the ball, and Vagner was moving the ball a little
bit and they were trying to find around, but you
can tell he's hanging out outside the three point line.
He's just weaving back and forth to get in a
rhythm where I can get the ball and get a shot.
I mean, you know, I mean he was never going
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to take it too unless Reddish really gets up to
him right and he gets in his face and he
has no problem. But you got to make it more
difficult than that. Instead, Reddish is way too far off
him and he gets a really clean look at that three.
And again, I can't believe that was the strategy we'll
hear from JJ Reddick after the game. I can't believe that. Hey,
make sure Vogar's got enough room for him to be
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able to hit that three. Again, the worst comes to worse,
he gets in the it's a shock. You go to
overt right, I'll bury him.
Speaker 3 (05:03):
But the stat that is going to be resounding through
the night. As a team three of nine from the
foul line in the fourth quarter. You can talk about
Reddish and defensive and whatever. Like, he gave you free points.
They put you on the line and you gave them back.
There's your margin of error. Can't make it about one play, No,
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can't leave it to the judges.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
Smith. Oh look, no, you're right, you know, make those
free throws, right, make those free throws. But that's something
that's one guy making the free throws. This was okay,
how do we all as a team, now, how do
we overcome this? And you just went after the nick
to say, hey, he's still a nick. I don't know,
he's still nicking. You wonder why Cam Reddish has never broke.
He can't break. I mean it plays like again, I
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can't believe that was a laying too far off him.
But here we are, and that's a horrible loss for
the Lakers. Comebod, he was waiting for the big drive
to the basket. What do you got, Frostburg.
Speaker 4 (05:56):
The real big question guys coming off this game is
is Lebron James gonna know the Lakers lost because he's
not on social media?
Speaker 1 (06:06):
Oh that's a good question.
Speaker 5 (06:07):
No.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
No, he still looks at the the the printouts right
after the game is over, so we can see his stats,
and they put the score right at the top, So
I think he will know.
Speaker 4 (06:15):
You really think he takes those when they hand him. No,
he doesn't look at those.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
Or do you think he just knows off the top
of his head. Oh, he knows off the he knows
what it is. He's not even gonna know anything about this.
He's zero dark thirty.
Speaker 3 (06:27):
He does know that Mooky Betts was in an attendance
and he let mooki Bets down.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
What he did.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
What do you take away from this loss to night
Lebron loss? What are you talking about? I have seven.
I didn't even look at the score. I didn't even
look at this. I was minus hate. But that's okay.
I didn't look at the score. We lost, really okay,
so what's our record? Like like like thirty five and two?
What's our record? Now?
Speaker 5 (06:47):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (06:47):
Really? Really? We lost five games. That's the first loss.
That's a really bad loss. That is a really bad loss.
I mean, I know that things have been going great,
but this is a game that yes, with the miss
free throws in that horrible defensive strategy at the end,
that's a game you gotta get Vagner and Wagner go
for fifty six. You gotta close out. You know, how
does Michigan not won more? Not won national championships in
(07:09):
basketball the last few years? They didn't have how do
you know? Okay, this is before Dave Portnoy gets involved, Like,
how do you have You were a basketball school for
a while, You had some pretty good guys on your team.
You know, how are you not going to any further,
Are you not further look at these guys? Uh so again,
we'll have more hoops coming up. We'll see what JJ
Reddick has to say following this really bad loss by
the Lakers. But Thursday night football a bit of a shocker.
(07:33):
It goes to the Browns. They beat the Steelers twenty
four to nineteen, a game that was really boring at halftime,
but then touchdowns were scored and it started to snow
in that order. Yeah, and it was a really fun
game to watch, like anything in the snow, those big
flakes coming down was so much fun. And the Browns
pulled the upset tonight, and the Steelers have another performance
(07:55):
that looks a lot like their last few games, even
despite the fact that there was a bunch of snow
that came down tonight. And it's a difficult conversation to
have because the Steelers are still eight and three. I know,
Mike Tomlin after the game seemed to blow everything off. Yeah,
I know, we're fine, We're fine. Come on, it's just snow. Yeah.
If it was justin Fields tonight that that did what
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he did instead of Russell Wilson would have been we're
looking at everything. We're looking at the film, We're looking
at all this stuff. But he was instrumental to one
of those scoring drives. I mean, tonight was tonight was
like a like watching a Spurrier at Florida. We's going
back and forth between Danny Wirfel and Terry Dean, like
watching Justin Field's come in and then Russell Wilson and
Justin Field's come in and Russell Wilson. But the Steelers
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offense is just no good, right, It's just it's just
no good. It's destri it's awful mid level, it's a
bunch of guys. And the Steelers are fortunate to be
a skuy. You thought that the Chiefs were having to
feel a lot of criticism about escaping for wins Hey,
at least they're closing out games in the fourth quarter.
And this is a Steelers offense that this is abysmal,
and and and you are really lucky to be where
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you are. And the change from Justin Fields to Russell
Wilson doesn't matter. You get the same quarterback play. You
get the same quarterback play, except now Russell Wilson's turning
the ball over a little bit more. Wilson was not
good for the first three quarters of the game, makes
a couple of passes in the fourth quarter, but it's
not enough. Wilson is washed, and the Steelers have assembled
the most pedestrian group of skilled position players really in
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the NFL, because Najie Harris and Jalen Warren. Look, they're
just guys, right, They're just guys. They're not great running backs,
they're just guys. The wide receiver position, they're just guys.
The quarterback position, they're just guys. And this is how
they're going forward on things. And I don't know how
they haven't after the Roethlisberger era ended. It was, hey,
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let's make sure we get we get a modern day
offense in here and not something like it's from nineteen
eighty two where we just run the football a ton
and throw the ball and we have to and you know,
Russell Wilson completes a couple of deep passes of Mike
Tommins patting himself on the back, saying, what a great
coach I told you about, Russell, Like, I don't see
how that this is where the Steelers' offense is at.
How they have not gone to the point where they
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understand if we're gonna win a championship, our offense has
to kind of be in at least the twentieth century,
maybe not the twenty first century, but the twentieth century
at least late in the twentieth century. But it's not.
And the Steelers try to win games sixteen to thirteen
every single week. And we've talked about success, and now
different teams judge success differently. For the Jets, if they
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get out of the tunnel with anybody falling on one
another and spilling a gainorrade cart, that success. Right. For
the Chiefs, it's hey, if they get to the super Bowl,
that's a success. For the Steelers, it can't just be
a we win enough games in the regular season and
then we win, maybe win a game in the playoff,
maybe not, and then we lose and go home. And
it's of the Steelers' own doing that. This is the
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team they have built. And I don't understand how they're
not the team at the top of the list. When
a big wide receiver becomes available, or a big quarterback
becomes available, how they couldn't make it, make a move
or a trade for a guy. How they don't build
the team that way? How they go cheap at quarterback,
cheap at running back. Yeah, I don't get it. I
don't get that. This is how the Steelers operate. And
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you can point to the records they are there are
eight and three. I'm like, yeah, you know what, maybe
they win as many playoff games as the Jets this year,
because who are they going to beat in the playoffs
when it comes down to it. I mean, if they
get one home game against a team that really is
not great, but like, do I think do I think
they would lose to the Chargers right now? No Charges
would beat them, right I'm like, if they somehow got
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to play the Colts and the first or okay, maybe
they would beat the Colts, but then they'd lose to
the next team because the next team is better. And
it's like that every year. It's like the Steelers have decided,
we're going to settle for pretty good. We're gonna settle
for winning enough in the regular season to make the playoffs,
maybe winning a playoff game. We're settling for pretty good.
And I don't know how that became acceptable with the
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Steelers over the last few years, but it has well.
But I mean, we go through that for a couple
of decades.
Speaker 3 (11:59):
Really, I mean go back to Cower in some of
the years that they had and obviously you had Roethlisberger,
and there was some sexiness as they went through the
offensive coordinators of the different how should we say mercurial
wide receivers through the years.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
That's the term we use in sports trade. What name, God, Haley,
I don't know who you're talking about, So just give
me some more names. Hey, I'll fight you if you
keep that up. Hey.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
The boy being that you go through.
Speaker 3 (12:25):
And into the Tomlin era, and for the Steelers, they're
all about stability, consistency, et cetera. So this fits with
the brand. Right, We're gonna be a team that is
in the mix every year. We're good, but we're not great. Right,
We're not gonna beat ourselves. Right coming into tonight they
were plus eleven. We talked about it last night. Plus
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eleven tied for second in terms of turnover differential. So
consistency there, We're gonna take care of the football. We're
not gonna beat ourselves. Some of the hallmarks of the
old Bill Belichick dynastic approach, but here you're looking for
the spectacular. I mean, when you look at their their
salary table and who really makes the money here. I mean,
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you got a couple of defenders led by TJ. Watt
that really make up the bulk of that. When you
know he's at thirty million dollars, Fitzpatrick's at twenty one,
Hayward at twelve six, et cetera, high Smith almost seven,
and then it starts to drift from there. Patrick Queen,
who was a captain last week, and all that that
we loved. I mean, there's a lot of your money
right there, those four guys, yeah, six, seven, twenty one,
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thirty right there. Offensively, George Pickings, you keep waiting to
be that guy. And he's heavily targeted four games with
Russell Wilson thirty eight targets. Yeah, keep him fed, keep
him happy, ish until he wants to fight people in
the back of the end.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
Zone and all that stuff.
Speaker 3 (13:44):
But all of that to say they're happy with being
consistently good, not great, versus ever really bottoming out. Right,
there's no you know, the old no guts, no glory
kind of situation. Back when I don't know, Terry Bradshaw's
playing quarterback. Hey, we're throwing the ball downfield, my guy
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gets it.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
Maybe they get it.
Speaker 3 (14:07):
Whereas now it's all right, we need high completion percentage,
take care of the football, and then Chris Boswell is
going to be our savior. I mean, that's the strategy
at this point. And you can beat a lot of
bad teams, but you couldn't beat a bad team tonight.
Couldn't beat those Cleveland Browns at home, and Mike Tomlin
can't win on Thursday.
Speaker 1 (14:26):
What happens when you settle for being very good? Where
will be very good? Will be very good every year?
Speaker 5 (14:31):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (14:31):
Okay, great? Yeah, and I'll stipulate too. I don't care.
I'd be okay with this for the next decade or
two of my life. And it depends on where you're
coming from, you how you judge success. I'd be happy
with that. As a Jets fan, No, but that's but
the Chiefs and the forty nine ers aren't happy with that.
It just every team all but even with Steeler fans.
Depending what generation you are, maybe you're okay with this.
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We're mid okay. Exit up by a Fresca exit swallowed Dome.
The Jason Smith Show with Mike Harmon Live, The Tireck
dot Com studios. We'll have more on this game coming
up next. Boy, what a missed opportunity for the Browns.
We'll get into what that means. Plus, you want to
talk about quarterbacks and a big day for quarterbacks? Have
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we got a couple of stories for you. That's next
right here, Jason and Mike Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
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Speaker 6 (15:34):
Like the McRib, the song's back, baby, I didn't know
the song went anywhere. It did for three hours. It's
about time for my three hour McRib. I'm sorry, I've
I haven't had one in three hours.
Speaker 1 (15:48):
The countdown is on. Do you have a countdown clock
on your phone?
Speaker 5 (15:50):
No?
Speaker 1 (15:51):
Countdown? Wait? You fasted for three hours?
Speaker 5 (15:53):
No?
Speaker 3 (15:53):
No?
Speaker 5 (15:53):
No?
Speaker 1 (15:53):
Yeah, well let's see, hang on, I just had cheetos.
How about three hours? Yeah? I think about three hours withdraws. Yeah, No,
I'm fine, right because I shakes. I just had cheetah ooh,
we have shakes?
Speaker 3 (16:04):
No?
Speaker 1 (16:04):
Are you having the shakes? There's shakes. I'll have a shake.
You have a shake. That's not what I meant chocolate shake,
Charlot peanab but a shake from Fat South. Let's go
with draw shakes, No with drawl shakes, John Penum, butter shaking.
So now I want a giant sandwich jerk. Quarterbacks. Quarterbacks, quarterbacks,
Let's talk quarterbacks. Okay, so we'll get back into what
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we saw tonight between the Steelers and the Browns. In
a few minutes, we had the Steeler's side of things.
But boy, there's something for the Browns. That's just they
Browns fans just want to be banging their heads against
the wall. But today was a big day quarterback wise
in college football because we saw the top two recruits
in the class of twenty twenty five picked their schools right.
(16:46):
We watched Deon Sanders and Colorado get the number two
overall recruit UH quarterback recruit in the country flipping from
USC to Colorado, and then long rumored, we thought it
might happen, and it did. Miss flips the number one
recruit in the class of twenty twenty five, Bryce Underwood,
who had committed to LSU, flips him to Michigan, And
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now Bryce Underwood has left LSU and is headed to Michigan.
Speaker 3 (17:13):
With ten to twelve point five million dollars, depending on
which report.
Speaker 1 (17:17):
And that is exactly how the founding fathers of Nil thought, Oh,
let's give the kids money when they come into college,
give them a little they should go big, make a
little bit of cash here. And now three years later
it's hey, this kid's making eleven million dollars.
Speaker 3 (17:31):
You made like all those old sad sack play a violin,
Chris Weber, Hey they could sell my jersey.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
Someone stor someone who hasn't even taken the SAT yet
is making that kind of money already just coming out
of school America kind of opportunity. But leaving USC for Colorado,
I get I get it because USC is not quite
what USC was. Coach Prime is much more attractive candidate
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because of what's going on this year this weekend. Oh dude,
if USC because that gets you say there's a lot
of wolves walking around neighborhoods, and yeah, but that gets
you bowl eligible watch out YEA. That I kind of get. However,
the big blinking red light warning signs that Bryce Underwood, right,
(18:22):
this is a kid who just got a hand cannon, right,
but he is just he could just really throw it uh.
The fact that he flips after being committed to LSU
since January, right, like he is like he is just
you know, he's l s U l s U. But
you hear all these rumors all Michigan might flip them.
You know something is afoot, and that he flips is
not so much about Michigan. Oh, by the way, congratulations.
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However much money Dave Portnoy gave towards that today committed
at least he said four millions, said four million? Where
is your money getting that quarterback for this year? Dave?
Come on, Dave, come on, Portnoy, a couple of bets
to come through. You gotta you gotta, you gotta beat
Northwestern to be Bowl eligible. Man, come on, where was
your money this year? So gokets. The big point is
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that here this is again the blinking red light and
the warning is that it's not that LSU didn't give
Underwood what he wanted. It's not that suddenly it was, hey,
we're having trouble getting you this or that. The fact
that he left for Michigan, yes, and Michigan getting him
ten and a half million dollars nil money is a
big deal. But the fact that he left at this
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point tells me the blinking red lights and the warning
signs Brian Kelly is in a load of trouble at LSU,
and I mean a load of trouble is in He
may be out after this year. Because you can have
the first couple of years. Okay, we expected big things
ten and three, ten and four, Okay, we're winning ten
games as more, but we expect a little bit now
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six and four and you're three years into this contract.
Don't forget in college football, you can pay out money.
You just get new people to bring in money. All
you need. If Michigan was able to get ten and
a half million dollars in a few weeks to give
Bryce Underwood can find money to buy out Brian Kelly,
USC can buy out Lincoln Riley. You can see these
things happening, Brian Kelly. Really it could happen this offseason,
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because why else would you leave. I mean, it's not
like Sewan Moore's been showing I'm a great head coach,
right but you know that. But you know he's gonna
be there. You're from the state, You're a hometown hero,
right because Bellville is thirty miles from an Arboro. Oh,
by the way, how he got out of Bellville to
get to LSU. That that's on Michigan too. But you
know the fact that this is this is a flip
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coming at this point tells me that there's a lot
of trouble and either the recruiters weren't gonna didn't know
they were gonna be there, the coaches might not be there,
and there was too much. I don't know. If I
go to LSU and all of a sudden it's a
new coach, new thing. Yes, it's the number one recruit
in the country. You want to think that I'll get
that chance. But maybe it's a new offense, maybe new
something coming in that I don't like. These are the
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people that went after me, and that's where I gotta go,
because when you're an athlete, you always have to gotta
you know. I always tell the girls that I coach
when you're ready. Hey, as you get older, play for
who likes you. You got to play for coaches like
because they're gonna give you the opportunities to do things
that other coaches aren't. You can tell if you're one
of the coaches, you know, quote one of the coaches
players or if you're just someone on the team, you
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got to be one of those, one of the favorites,
and you will get an opportunity to do things. Now,
Bryce underw I'm sure was able to set whatever he wanted.
We're gonna set everything around you here at LSU X
Y and Z. New coaching staff comes in that may
be different. So why am I doing that when I
know I'm going to Michigan. Searon Moore just got the job.
Even if he winds up getting let go, It's a
couple of years from now. I'm on my way to
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the NFL. So Okay, this is what I'm doing. So
this tells me blinking red lights, Brian Kelly is insight.
It could be this off season he's out at LS.
Speaker 3 (21:40):
Yeah, I think a couple of things coming into play
that you were just talking about, you know, with Jay
Laser last Hour and and some of the overarching things
about you know, continuity, consistency, and strength of message within
a program, collegiate or professional. And for Michigan you get
it done. A lot of negative recruiting in the last
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twelve to twenty four months about all of the investigations
around the NCAA. So I understand why there might have
been a window where Underwood would say, you know what,
I'm gonna look at what else is out there, and right,
who else wants me?
Speaker 1 (22:13):
That's a big time program. LSU.
Speaker 3 (22:16):
It's history everything else. All right, the money's right, this
is all good. Look at the guys I'm running would
be running with. You get a call from Justin Jefferson,
maybe Joe Burrow that gives you a nod, all of
that stuff that you say, okay, cool, all right, this
is the place that works.
Speaker 1 (22:32):
And fine, well, Michigan it's stabilizes.
Speaker 3 (22:35):
Right, we're seeing there's not a lot of teeth and
really any penalties that are coming to bear. And Harbaugh's
in the pros anyway, but just in terms of other
recruits and potential problems in terms of making your experience
the best for you, not only financially but from a
winning perspective to put you on the path towards NFL
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start them. But LSU had that in place except for well,
now you're looking at another year with no playoffs. You're
looking at multiple losses each and every season. You're looking
at a coach that every time he hits the podium,
he literally hits the podium, right, saltiness about one thing
or another, bad optics, and I know you love the
(23:16):
optics of things. And I mean, how many times has
he gotten into fights with guys on the sideline, players
coming on, players coming off, assistant coaches walking down and
screaming at them, Like all of that just says. That
just says there's unrest. And if you're a recruit and
you're watching these games, you're like, I'm gonna go play
for that, No sign up for that, And we're gonna
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lose three or four times a year, The hell with that.
Speaker 1 (23:38):
Yeah, I can make money somewhere else.
Speaker 3 (23:40):
So I can stay home. I've got all the creature
comforts here. I'm just up the road.
Speaker 1 (23:46):
They're in year two.
Speaker 3 (23:47):
They're desperate for a quarterback to come in and be
the guy. Right, McCarthy's gone a year. They had the
national title, but they're thirsty for more. Yeah, I can
come in and do that.
Speaker 1 (23:57):
Let's go exit out about a Fresco exit swalling down
the Jay Aason Smith Show with my best friend Mike
Carrn Blinking red lights, Brian Kelly. Uh time now to
find out what's trending in the wide world of sports.
And the man who actually was the Lsuit coach before
Brian Kelly was Steve de Sager. He won two national
championships and then retired to be with us here at
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Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 7 (24:18):
Which was strange because I developed the ed orgre On
accent down there, and nobody when I came here to
the studios could understand. And yet I have a communications jump.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
Steve Listen, we got to drop the accent for what's trending. Okay,
all right, that's fine, that's well.
Speaker 7 (24:31):
We had quite a finish in the NBA late game.
LA had been seven to zero at home. The Lakers
were hosting and leading Orlando until in the final seconds
a three pointer made by Franz Wagner of the Magic,
who had thirty seven points eleven assists. Orlando then just
needed to play some d In the final couple seconds
Magic TV.
Speaker 1 (24:50):
I found Anthony Davi, which corn around, jumpers up and
no good, and that'll do it. The Magic are gonna
get out of Los Angeles with a win. Hollywood ending
for the bat.
Speaker 7 (25:00):
One nineteen to won eighteen the final. In this one,
Lakers had been seven to zero at home, but they
will rue the missed free throws just in the last
four minutes of this game, Austin Reeves missed a pair
of free throws, Lebron James missed one, Anthony Davis missed one,
and then Davis was at the line with under twenty
seconds left, holding a two point lead, and he missed
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both free throws. Orlando made them pay. San Antonio over.
Utah won twenty six pet eighteen Chris Paul of the
Spurs ten assists, won turnover. Utah's record now three and twelve.
Toronto had been three and twelve, but got a home
win against Minnesota one ten to one oh five r
Jay Barrett thirty one points, and at Charlotte in overtime, hornetsbeed.
Detroit won twenty three one twenty one. LaMelo Ball thirty
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five points, nine assists. Paul George of the Sixers will
miss at least a couple games with a hyper extended knee,
the same knee he heard in the preseason. Phillies record
two and twelve. Mavericks guard Luka Donsiches out at least
a week with a spraying wrist. We had snow and
win for the NFL game at Cleveland tonight. The Browns
won it over rival Pittsburgh twenty four to nineteen, as
Nick Chubb had two short touchdown runs, including the game
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winner with about a minute left, so the Browns, even
with three turnovers, take this one. Pittsburgh had scored back
to back touchdowns in the fourth for the lead, but
earlier the Steelers were stopped on fourth and short two
separate times. Bears running back DeAndre Swift returned to limited
practice today after a groin injury. Cowboys wide receiver Ced
Lamb did not practice today back in foot injuries. Forty
(26:29):
nine Ers QB Brock Purty only threw at the start
of practice today due to his sore shoulder. In the
AL MVP voting, it was unanimous for the Yankees Aaron
Judge in the National League Most Valuable Player voting. It
was unanimous for Dodgers DH show Hey Otani. Quite a finish.
In college hoops in the Bahamas, in double overtime, Baylor
won its top twenty five matchup over Saint John's on
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a three pointer at the Buzzer ninety nine to ninety eight.
Then number eleven Tennessee took care of Virginia sixty four
forty two nhlins for Vegas and New Jersey, Colorado one
two to one at Washington Capital. Star Alex Ovechkin is
expected in this four to six weeks with a broken leg.
Calgary and Minnesota with wins, and Columbus in over time
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won seven to six over Tampa Bay.
Speaker 1 (27:14):
Back to you, Thank you, Steve. The Jason Smith Show
with Mike Carmon Live from the tire rack dot Com Studios.
Now we get from college football to the NFL. When
it comes to quarterbacks, right, we talked about Russell Wilson
a few minutes ago. Look, the guy's washed. Mike Tomlin
can pretend he's good all he wants, but he's not. Uh,
this is not an I don't intend to make the
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Browns fans go through all the fields right now.
Speaker 3 (27:40):
Yeah, because they've never done anything, no, no, in acts
of aggression against the Fox Sports Radio studios before.
Speaker 1 (27:46):
However, however, we weren't on the air. It's okay. However,
watching Jamis Winston tonight lead the Browns back to victory
not an incredible game for him. He did you know,
he did turn the ball over. But the last four
games he's got two three hundred yard games. The Browns
have a lot of life. They have discovered three great
(28:08):
offensive weapons in Tillman and Jerry Judy. Who, Mike, this
is the Jerry Judy the Broncos are going. We wanted
this guy when he was twenty two. We've got to
get rid of him. You know, Elijah Moore who's now
catching a lot of passes for the Browns.
Speaker 7 (28:20):
Like that.
Speaker 1 (28:21):
He got three wide receivers that are good. You got
a good tight end. David and Joku. Just think had
the Browns done the right thing, had they stood up
and said, you know, week four, we understand that Deshaun
Watson is never gonna be good again. All right. We've
given him a long time, his time away. He doesn't
who knews how much he even wanted to be here,
(28:41):
but we guaranteed him all the money, so he says, sure,
I'll show up. You can see that mentally, he was
never checked in to playing football for the Cleveland Browns.
If you had made that tough decision and said week four, okay,
we've had him for him up. We know he stinks.
We got to make a move. We asked, we have
to pay him, but we don't have to play. Jameis
Winston's on the roster. The team has no life there.
(29:04):
It's very lethargic. Let's change things. Had they gone to
Winston week four right now, they're probably five and six
right there in the mix of the playoffs instead of
three and eight and being just as close to being
the periphery of the playoffs as you are to picking
first overall, Like, if you had just made that move,
you would be in such a better place right now
(29:24):
because a couple of those games against also Rams you
would have been able to win. I mean, just it's
a big jolt of energy. And sometimes not that a
change always results that you always have to make a change,
but when there's no other choice, I mean, you have
to say, all right, we've gone as far as we
(29:45):
can with this. We're just gonna throw a guy out there.
Because all you were doing, if you were the Browns,
when you were just hoping that we're gonna continue to
keep repeating this until somehow Deshaun Watson breaks through and
he was never going to. But if you had gone
to Jameis Winston after giving him a month, hey, guess what,
you're five and six right now, and you're feeling pretty
good because you got weapons on offense, your defense is
good enough. You're not an elite team, but hey, who's
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really elite? You know? In the NFL? Right now you're
a five, you're a five and six team, and you
go on a run at the end. Certainly you can
win games in the division. Just watch you beat the
Steelers right now in the snow, Like, where would you
be right now if you had made that tough, that
difficult but necessary decision a month and a half ago.
Speaker 3 (30:25):
Oh, it's a question. We ask about Jerry Jones, we
ask about Haslam, and then we well, we can extend
to your guy, to my guy, and all of that
to say, the owners don't get out of their own
way stubbornness, whether it's money that still needs to be
paid out or egg on their face for money that
has been paid in this case to Shaun Watson in
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the contract. Look, you had proof of concept between injuries
and the frequency which he incurred them since getting his
deal after that year of operation shut down in Houston.
That you're looking at a guy who had been a
terrible quarterback.
Speaker 1 (31:02):
Yeah, you go sixty three percent completion rate. That's great.
Speaker 3 (31:06):
It led you to nothing. At least with Winston, there's
an energy there's a there's movement of the football and
Jerome Ford filled in for Nick Chubb. Fine, well, Nick
Chubb's back, and you scored a couple of touchdowns tonight
against pretty tough defense of Pittsburgh in a weird game.
It was an odd game, no question about it. But
you know, there's there's just a different boost to and
(31:28):
juice to the offense. And I think everybody in the
in the locker room saw it, right. You remember the
body language and look, I don't I don't pretend to
be a have a doctor and all of that stuff.
When you know, to start showing up on you know,
different montage shows of.
Speaker 1 (31:45):
Hey remember that quarterback. Yeah, let's talk about him. You
know that.
Speaker 3 (31:47):
You remember the eighties or NFL of the the aughts.
But it's that kind of thing with Deshaun Watson where
you could just see there was a little less all right,
let's go win this game than there is with Jameis Winston.
He was the guy doing the pregame hype speech for
crying out loud when he was the backup that.
Speaker 1 (32:04):
Told you everything you needed to know. Oh telling you man,
this is but this is why you make the big
money to make decisions like that. This is where stefans
He's got to stand up to Jimmy Hasien. Where Jimmy
Hassem's got to understand are we trying to win or not? No,
I'm paying them, So he's gonna start. That's just stupid.
Speaker 3 (32:20):
That's what's just stupid. Stefanski is not innocent in this.
In the end, you could send the guy out on
the field. You know what, Deshaun wasn't feeling right, Jimmy, Yeah,
because and then you say, Jimmy.
Speaker 1 (32:30):
Jimmy, because who do you have to be more beholden to?
All right, Yeah, well, well the owner wants it, but
there's there's fifty three guys in that locker room that
are putting their bodies on the line every single week,
and you're gonna sit here and say sorry, guys the
owner says, we're going with him.
Speaker 3 (32:44):
Yeah, but you're also Stefanski if you're able to if
you go and say that to Jimmy and say, hey, Jimmy,
blank you this guy's starting because we can win if
he fires you.
Speaker 1 (32:52):
Guess what, I got a better job unless I go
to the Jets. That it's the worst job. That's but
anywhere else would be a better job, You get a
better job. We go exit out about a Fresco exit
swollen Dome. The Jason Smith Show with Mike Carmon live
from the Tireck dot Com Studios. Coming up next, Final
thoughts on the Big Laker loss and you want another quarterback?
Hot take one guy who it looks like his career
(33:13):
is over. I guarantee you he'll be starting in the
NFL next year. Jenny's not Aaron Rodgers and it's not
Jimmy Garoppolo. That's coming up next right here, Jason and
Mike Fox.
Speaker 5 (33:25):
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Speaker 1 (33:36):
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Speaker 6 (33:48):
Jason side note. Yeah, so I'm on HBO right, okay?
Not a sponsor.
Speaker 1 (33:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (33:53):
Put on the shop with Lebron for five minutes and
turn it off.
Speaker 1 (33:56):
Wow.
Speaker 6 (33:57):
I don't know what I was expecting, but not bad.
Speaker 1 (33:59):
You lost a five minutes. Hey, now that's what Okay,
It's a different story for a different day. The Shop yeah, yeah,
it's not good. I stopped after the after the haircut's done.
Speaker 6 (34:09):
I'm done. This seems weird. I just want to see
what Drake would say. And they're like talking like they
don't know each other.
Speaker 1 (34:15):
It's just weird.
Speaker 3 (34:16):
Yeah, the concepts also, you know, I don't like it.
I mean, just go watch trading places. Yeah, not trading places.
Speaker 1 (34:22):
Trading place, trading spaces. No, no, no, no, he's gonna
watch trade looking good, Billy Ray, feeling good, Mortimer, No, no, no,
I was.
Speaker 3 (34:30):
I was going to our coming to America. I was
taking to the barber shop. Sure it's been done before,
We've done it better. And immediately I'm like, yeah, let's
go to the I'm like.
Speaker 1 (34:43):
Eddy Murphy, wrong movie, looking good, Lewis, Oh, Billy Ray again.
The Lakers defense on that final play just baffles me
that Cam Reddish wasn't close enough to Fronz Vagner, who
you know is going to take a three the clock
because inside of five seconds a two is never on
the table and he has more than enough room to
(35:05):
hit that three to win the game. That is just
that is just a deflating loss for the Lakers. It
should have been seven in a row instead, it's a
one nineteen one eighteen loss. Now it feels to me
like you're still harboring some resentment over his time with
the Knicks on Cam Reddish, that there's still a little
bit of see see you want to see. I told you,
I wonder why Cam Reddish has never made it through
(35:25):
despite the fact he's so talented. It's it's stuff like that. Again.
I can't believe that was the plan, was for him
to be so far off. A guy you know is
gonna take a bleeping fee when they're down too. But
yet here we are. Here, we are, That's what we're here.
Speaker 3 (35:38):
We are once again again three for nine from the
free throw line in the fourth quarter, as outlined by
Steve Dessager at the News Desk a little bit earlier too.
You gotta take care of business, right. Yes, it's it's
a bad defensive lapse, bad judgment. But what's the first
thing you're teaching, Hey, get to the free throw line.
(35:59):
We're staying after practice, after the game, do your interviews.
Get back out here, exit out a bout a Fresco,
exit swollen dome. Jason Smith, Mike Harmon. Now, the final
quarterback story of the night.
Speaker 1 (36:10):
Because again, for as much as as much as I
talk about how he stinks, I kind of felt for
Daniel Jones today. Yeah, we met the media basically saying goodbye,
goodbye to because he knows he's not playing again, because
that look that we told you a month and a
half ago. By week ten or so, the Giants are
going to bench Daniel Jones. He's not going to play
again because they don't want to be on the hook
(36:31):
if he gets hurt to pay him twenty five million
dollars next year. It's why the Broncos did it with
Russell Wilson last year. More teams are going to start
doing this in the future, and he's never going to
play for them again. And still they have him in practice.
He was playing safety at practice, they which is like, dude,
what if he gets hurt at practice? That's just stupid.
What are you doing?
Speaker 3 (36:50):
Oh, It's kind of like Dak Prescott being on crutches
and he's standing on the side.
Speaker 1 (36:55):
He could still get hurt and practice and you could
be on the hook. What are you doing? But the
big thing is this is that is Daniel Jones gonna
be on the team the rest of the season or not.
And he was asked that question today and he said,
I don't know. I don't know if I'm gonna where
I'm gonna be. This is where I am today. And
he's been a good leader, he's a good teammate. I'm
sure he wants to stay. The Giants have to decide
(37:18):
is it worth it to have him stay or is
it a reminder that, Hey, we're moving on and things
were screwed up, and we have a guy here who's
not gonna play for us anymore, and it's best for
us to let him go and go sign someplace else.
I'll tell you this, I'm the Giants. I keep Daniel
Jones not because you're gonna play for me again. But
the minute we cut him, someone's gonna sign.
Speaker 3 (37:37):
He knows what he's sees, someone safety spot on the
scout squad.
Speaker 1 (37:41):
How about you'd like to change positions, Daniel and start
playing safety for us like that mid NFL career position change.
But the reason I keep missing back, someone's gonna someone's
gonna pick him up. But there's no reason the Giants
can't hold on to because it's not like, oh, if
you cut him after June first, before June first, they
can let him go. It's fine, but it's not gonna
(38:04):
be a great free agent quarterback class. And it's not
a great quarterback class in the draft. The Giants will
rouse sticking with him and not moving up for JJ
McCarthy like they should have done last year if they
really wanted a guy. Yo, Shaduro Sanders is gonna be
really good. But outside of that, anybody else really like
Carson Beck that much? He's really that great. No, there's
(38:25):
not a great class. Daniel Jones will be available. The
Giants will get a fifth round pick for him, and
they will get something, and he will go someplace next
year and be a bridge starter until their next quarterback
is ready. There's seven or eight teams that I'd be
looking for a quarterback this year, and outside of shaduor Sanders,
who else is gonna walk in and start right away?
Daniel Jones will wind up somewhere else next year starting.
(38:47):
And I just I've had this vision all day today.
It's gonna be with the Jets. He's gonna go crazy,
he's gonna go across the locker room, and it's gonna
be him starting for the Jets until Jordan Travis or
whoever the hell else is ready, But he's gonna be
starting in the NFL next year. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (39:01):
The big question is with athletes first, his agency, how
much pressure do they try to put on the Giants
to say, hey, uh, an injury pops up, he might
be able to go latch on with the team and
play some substantive football and audition now right and get
into a new situation. So you know, how much with
the family organization and their history and do the right
(39:22):
thing kind of thing do they say, all right, Daniel
Jones going and spread your wings and fly, We're done
with you here and look being.
Speaker 1 (39:31):
That family team. I can see them doing that, right.
We want to be have that big image of a
family team. We don't want it to be awkward. But
at the same time, you'll you'll get something to an asset,
you'll get something for him. Hey, we're gonna trade you.
We're gon trade you, or we'll let you go by
this date. But after the beginning of free agency and
stuff starts to dry up, someone's gonna trade for Daniel Jones.
Speaker 3 (39:49):
By the way, his speech pretty pretty damn good. I
encourage folks to watch it.
Speaker 1 (39:54):
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