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Speaker 3 (00:54):
Sports tonight, all over the place. Smith, And now we've
got from Las Vegas. We got the f one weekend,
sparsely attended practices and everything.
Speaker 4 (01:03):
Like more people in the studio tonight than that, you know, But.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
The line goes, come on, man, dozens of fans are
waiting for this to happen, but they just showed.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
All right, here's the track and the grid, and I
cannot see it because someone put it on social media
that the course looks like the outline. Uh, you can
insert Spider Pig from from the Simpsons movie into it.
Speaker 4 (01:28):
Spider big, Spider big.
Speaker 5 (01:30):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (01:30):
You want a real quick you want a real quick,
good local news story.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
So this is back when I worked in local news,
like twenty almost twenty five years ago.
Speaker 4 (01:37):
Now wow.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
So sometimes when local news goes out to cover a story,
they hear something and they think it's gonna be a
big They get press releases all the time, we have this,
we have this, we have this. And they were giving
away tickets to something at at Staple Center back when
the Staple Center, and I like, oh, let's get a
news crew down there to do this and and to
you know, there'll be a story. And I remember I'm
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like going, you know, because I was in sports and
they asked me, and they anytime I said to them,
they were like, you don't know you're talking about You're
just a sports guy. Like okay, they said, well what
do you think about this? I go, oh, well, I'm
not going to send anybody because it's not that big
a deal. But but they're they're doing I said, no,
it's not. Well, we're gonna send a news crew. Okay,
So they send a news crew down, they send a
news crew there little hour. Yeah, and uh. And I
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remember the argument that went on because like nobody was
there and and and it was like, how many fans
are there? Was like fifty So they were saying and
there was a big argument because they wanted to say
dozens of fans, and the news say, no, don't say dozens.
Speaker 4 (02:37):
It makes it sound like nobody.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
They were like, say scores of fans, scores of fan
Like wait a minute, a score is okay, so escorts twenties.
So how many scores of fans are there? Is Abraham
Lincoln there doing this? She was like, yeah, don't say
dozens of fans. Don't say dozen of them.
Speaker 3 (02:54):
Presidents stay weekend give away four four score of fans
here today for the these tickets to go see nickelback
at the U.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
And there was a big argument about don't say, like,
of course, we're choice is huge, I mean dozens of fans,
Like like you know, like if you said hundreds of fans,
that would be okay, that's all right, Well we'll say
that hundreds of fans okay.
Speaker 3 (03:18):
And then story we just don't want to chop or
overhead shot. That's all we can say.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
Why we're here for a story. Dozens of fans here
because it's not.
Speaker 3 (03:26):
Big enough that we can fabricate hundreds of thousands like
a parade or anything like that. But yes, dozens of
fans in attendance here as we watch uh the f
one work out of Las Vegas.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
It's like Tom Hanks when he told the League of
their own, let's go, ladies. Dozens of fans are waiting
for the game.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
Now, big weekend in college football tomorrow. We talked about
the two big marquee games that everybody's gonna watch. Have
the big noon kickoff with Indiana and Ohio State Army
and Notre Dame, which is gonna be fun for about
fifteen minutes. You're gonna want to watch the pregame, You're
gonna want to watch most of the first quarter, and
then you're gonna be done because Notre Dame will be
killing Army.
Speaker 4 (04:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
Some good, some good history lessons for college football if
you want to go forties, like in college football, I mean,
was was Doc Blanchard really, mister outside right?
Speaker 4 (04:11):
Was was was he mister outside? Was he outside? Don't remember?
Speaker 1 (04:15):
Was Davis mister inside? I think Doc Blanchard is mister outside.
I think Doc was mister outside. And I was gonna
say Glen Day and and uh yeah, who's mister Yeah yeah,
Uh that's back when Davis was mister outside. Okay, David's
mister outside. Yeah, Blanchard mister inside. You sure about that?
That's from your positive that's what it's telling. Okay, all right,
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it's making sure that's what the inner webs.
Speaker 4 (04:37):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
Cold Davias was really nice. I'm met him long long ago.
He was gonna you mean, the Astros first baseman. He
was pretty good. Nice too, boy, you were really good
at when you played college football in the forties. Uh
but look, but that's what everything in college football was
back then, Rogers, it was. It was army and Notre Dame.
Speaker 4 (04:52):
Right.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
But you're gonna get great pageantry and video that you
can't even tell, very sped up video of guys doing
the standing up and getting back down into a huddle.
It's not even gonna look like a football game, like
a bunch of guys like huddled over a rock. And
then you're gonna see the ball go and someone's gonna run.
It's gonna be sped up and you're not gonna be
able to make any sense, but it's gonna be fun.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
There's an old.
Speaker 3 (05:12):
Episode of the King of Queens where they're going through
and they have the reunion. Someone's writing about their old
football team and Doug's mad because he's not getting credit
for a play that he's saying he's made and the
guy that did is well confined to a wheelchair or whatever.
So it's like, oh, you're the jerk trying to take
away his plane. Whatever said they It's like, but they're
looking at it out of video, like I don't know
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who that is. It's like my jersey, your jersey. Some
problem here, same kind of thing. Here's which guy is it?
Speaker 1 (05:40):
I don't know. Up the running really fast like their baber.
It looks like both teams are in the same uniforms. Yeah, yeah,
that's kind of how it goes. It looks like they're
wearing sweaters like that, like like Molly Weasley needed them
for them at Christmas and we're putting on these sweaters
to play.
Speaker 4 (05:54):
Yeah, yeah, that's what's going on.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
Okay, there we go. We got the wesh, it's gonna
be great. Uh So, but the game with the biggest
stakes tomorrow steaks because look, Indiana can lose and still
go to the playoff, which is likely going to happen.
But it's not often that a five and five and
a four and sixteen have the biggest game because we
could get the biggest headline coming out of this.
Speaker 3 (06:17):
Yeah, it's also in our backyard, so we're it's resonating
here all week.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
Loyola Marramount and Saint Mary's USC and UCLA Tomorrow.
Speaker 4 (06:29):
UCLA needs to win.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
And they can be one win away from being Bowl eligible.
USC needs to win because if they lose, they have
to win their six game of the year against No.
Speaker 4 (06:40):
Tre damon a week and that's not gonna happen.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
Uh But the big thing is this, things have gone
awful for Lincoln Riley since he stepped in at USC.
There was no honeymoon period. There was no Lincoln Riley's
going to save us. It has been Lincoln Riley at
arms length from the City of Los Angeles and UAE
in USC fans the entire time he's been here.
Speaker 4 (07:02):
There's been no honeymoon period. There's been there's been.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
No time of where, Hey, he's bringing people in the
best part was when he got hired, and here's players
who were coming in. But Liittnikoff finalists, Caleb Williams is coming.
Speaker 4 (07:14):
Hey, great.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
And the best year was the first year and it
wasn't great, and then last year was worse than that,
and this year is worse than last year. It's like
the Hunger Games trilogy. The first book in movie was
really good, second book not quite as good as the first,
third book not quite as good as a second. As
we go on, it just goes down and down and down.
Who's the coach in the prequel, Donald Sutherland, He's the coach.
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And when you take into account how bad things have
been for USC this year, how Lincoln Riley's relationship with
the media, with experts, with with the fan base is
like Lane Kiffen at peak Lane Kiffen, when the fans
couldn't stand Lane Kiffin. He already lost the highest profile
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recruit he has had since he's been at UC this week,
number two recruit in the country says, I'm going to
play for Deon Sanders instead of instead of you here
wait what, Yeah, I'm going to the Big twelve because
I want to play SMU, and I want to play
against all these teams. No, no, no, And I don't
want to go to the Big Ten and play at
the Big House and play Michigan. I don't want to
play Uclanta, want to play at the Horseshoe. I don't
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want to play Washington. I want to go here. If
USC loses to UCLA tomorrow and now UCLA's went away
from being Bowl eligible and here's USC likely not going
to a Bowl. I don't know that Lincoln Riley makes
it to Monday, because even though it's a ninety million
dollar buyout, it sounds like, oh, you can't do it,
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can't do it. If sports has taught any of us
anything in the last few years, it's that no matter
what the money is, if you're motivated enough, it can
be figured out. You got to be motivated enough to
figure it out. You got to be motivated. If you're
the Broncos to get out from Russell Wilson, after you
made all those trades to get them, they were motivated.
They ate all that money. Look where they are in
a much better place. Right. You gotta be motivated if
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you want to move on from Aaron Rodgers well we're motivated. Okay,
pack can move on from Aaron Rodgers. They're in a
better place. Mel Tucker. Look at all the money he
got from Michigan State. Well, they were motivated. We got
to move on, and they move on from all this
than that big contract LSU. And I'll tell you, Brian Kelly,
Brian Kelly blinking lights. When you lose a number one
recruit in the country and he flips, I know how
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much trouble you're in blinking We can get out of
that contract. USC can figure out a ninety million dollar
buyout for Link Kevin, for Lincoln Riley pretty fast if
you are motivated and USC has a lot of money.
This is one thing we know. Will Ferrell could probably
do it himself with whatever royalties he's gotten from ELF,
just for this year. Oh you need money, here you go.
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Oh that's great. How cute is Dave Portnoy four million
dollars from Michigan. That's great, that's great.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
Here you go. What do you need?
Speaker 4 (09:49):
You wait it out.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
We gotta get a new head coach. We got a
new head coach. We're fine. USC has all kinds of
blank you money, and they'll be motivated because this is
not going well. It's not getting better, The recruits are
aren't getting better. However you want to however you want
to dice it up, because you can say many things, well,
Lane Lane, Well, Lincoln Riley has never really been embraced
by the fan base. No, has he been able to
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recruit like we thought he would on the West Coast, No,
he Hasn't all of these things go into it. I'm saying,
I'm not saying it's one specific thing, but you know
that overall this has been a bad experience and it's
not getting better. It is getting worse. And losing to
UCLA like this where you will likely be not Bowl
eligible and UCLA can be Bawl eligible. There's certain rubicons
you cannot cross, and this will be crossing that rubicon
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where I don't know that Lincoln Riley even makes it
till Monday, because USC will say we've had enough. Because
we have this false belief that we should be winning
national champions every year, even though we've been a three
or four lost team since Pete Carroll left and that
was twenty bleep in years ago. We still think two
thousand and four was last week. We need to keep winning.
There again, they're unreasonable, but this is not going. But
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they paid a lot of money for very little results.
And I don't know by Monday if he's still the
head coach. If he loses to UCLA tomorrow.
Speaker 3 (11:05):
Four and a half point favorites over under at fifty
one and a half for this one. I think a
lot of it comes back to he was supposed to
be the savior, right, This was supposed to be the
Joseph a new Golden Age. Right, he's the genius. Look
at all the Heisman trophies and he got another one
here with Caleb. But you were expected to solve a
lot of the ills, push away some of the old
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NC double A sneaking around instead, what'd you get hit with?
More coaching? Things minor? But still NC double A is
still a big brother watching over the shoulder. But all
that to say, how much did we hear this offseason
about Oh, they're gonna be bullies on both sides.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
Of the ball, how much muscle they put on?
Speaker 4 (11:46):
Awesome?
Speaker 3 (11:46):
Yeah, they're scoring thirty points game, that's great. Defense still stinks,
it's the interior still doesn't work. And then your quarterback
position didn't work, right, Miller Moss short lived experiment there
before he gets displaced. For Lincoln Riley, go back to
when he came in, he treated it like he had
already won and distanced himself from everybody, like he doesn't
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go to any of the rallies for for the Rivalry week.
And you could say, well, that's not important. No, it's
it's important to the people that are that are giving
money to the program. It's important to your fan base
that you buy in at least in some way, shape
and form, to go out and give a little Queen's wave,
give your two minute speech, yell fight on fifteen times
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and say, oh, here's Will Ferrell and his son. They're
gonna dj a set for you see later. I'm out
of here, all of those kind of things. So for
for Lincoln Riley, he never embraced the the la.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
Me and lamed Is Saft. We got a very very
few guys that'll go at you.
Speaker 4 (12:46):
You think this is tough here, really to go to Philadelphia,
New York.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
Aaron Rodgers is realizing, whoa, whoa, So what everybody warmed
me about? This is really I didn't think it was
gonna happen to me. Oh yeah, it's happening. To Beago,
New York, wor all of those places.
Speaker 4 (13:01):
It is.
Speaker 3 (13:02):
Look, they'll wash you up when when it's appropriate, but
as things go spirally, yeah, they'll come at you pretty hard.
And every time we've seen even a line of questioning
too all right, just give us the logic on whatever
this sequence was, it becomes excuse making lack of any
accountability whatsoever, and then bristling about one or two.
Speaker 4 (13:26):
Plays away and all of that.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
You can only run that line so many times, as
true as it may be, because literally we are talking
about a team that over the last couple of years
they're only a couple of plays away. But guess what,
the guts and the optics of it all is still bad.
When you say a couple you mean like thirty or forty, Well,
when you add them up one here plus two.
Speaker 3 (13:47):
Like we're doing a factorial at this point as we
go through. But it's just the What I do want
to go back to, though, is the Will Ferrell Mooney.
How much do you think he gets from those terror
terrifying six foot buddy the l things that are hanging
out at the home depot. You see those things, You
probably gets a decent amount of money on that that's
his likeness. Is he gonna do another PayPal add before
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the holiday that that pays out that ninety million.
Speaker 1 (14:10):
I'll never do ELF two, but I'll sing for PayPal
on cat really like really like pretecting you do that instead?
Speaker 4 (14:18):
Big check.
Speaker 1 (14:19):
Good afternoon, Fox Sports Radio The Jason Smith Show with
Mike Carmon, Live from the tyrec dot Com Studios. I
mean he may not make it till Monday, will farewell,
but Lincoln Riley may not make it to Monday.
Speaker 4 (14:29):
He loses to uc.
Speaker 3 (14:31):
Yeah, it's a final because I mean think about UCLA
coming into the year. Remember remember Watson's h Yeah, you know,
his his introductory speech right when when he knows.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
You don't know who we are with U c USC,
you know we're gonna fire link Shop Foster.
Speaker 4 (14:50):
Sorry, we're gonna fire Lincoln Riley later on this year.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
Gonna get him.
Speaker 3 (14:54):
Fired pretty much. And now he's talking a lot of
smack him. This game so fun stuff.
Speaker 1 (14:59):
We got more foot ball on the way coming up next.
We'll give you our upset special picks for this week
in the NFL, and one head coach former head coach
in the NFL is openly canvassing to come back to
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Speaker 1 (16:22):
Jets fired their head coach, then they fired their GM.
There's no one left to fire, so they're just gonna
keep losing.
Speaker 3 (16:30):
Fuck Fox Sports Radio. That's probably been uttered a bunch
this week. Jason Smith Show with my best friend Mike Harmon.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
Jason, you think Aaron Rodgers thought I'd go to the
Jets and get benched in his life, I think he
thought I'm gonna go to the Jets and take over
New York Rememory. He did the tour. He was the
greatest tourist we'd seen. Looking at me, I'm the king
in New York night.
Speaker 3 (16:51):
He was on Broadway and were hitting all the sites
New York, New Jersey.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
He was gonna be the king.
Speaker 4 (16:56):
Nay, let me tell you something, Maren.
Speaker 1 (16:58):
By the time you get to like week eight, you're
gonna see what it's really like to play quarterback here,
all right, Just telling you, just telling you It's.
Speaker 4 (17:05):
All great now, right, So this though, this is a mirage,
it ain't gonna be like this for long. Just trust
me on it.
Speaker 1 (17:12):
How did it work out for you? Murray Aaron?
Speaker 4 (17:16):
How you doing?
Speaker 1 (17:17):
I got visited by this ghost last night, the ghost
of Jets' future, and he told me things are gonna
get really bad. Who's the ghost in Jets' future? Which
which guy?
Speaker 4 (17:28):
Rich co Tite?
Speaker 1 (17:29):
Daniel Jones, No, Sam Darnold, No, okay, all of those
guys either have already played for the Jets sport or
will play for the Jets in the future. Uh. Look,
Rex Ryan has been telling anybody who will listen that
he wants to come back and coach the Jets.
Speaker 4 (17:48):
He said it.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
He said it after Robert Salah got fired. I want
the job. I want to come back. He has always
carried himself as if he still is the head.
Speaker 4 (17:56):
Coach of the Jets.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
He's just not getting paid by them and making decisions.
But I'm still when he was coaching Buffalo, he was
coaching Buffalo to get back at he was still the
Jets head coach. It's like, you know what, we broke up,
but we're really not broken up because I'm still part
of your world and you live rent free in my head.
And then he went and did another interview yesterday. This
is after Joe Douglass got fired, and he said, I'm
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the guy. I'm the guy for the Jets. I would
love the job again. He was asked on New York radio,
do you have to blow it up? No, I'd be
undefeated with this team. I want to come back and
do it again. I fix that defense again.
Speaker 4 (18:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:32):
Let me let me tell you what the real truth
to this. I tried to look how ridiculous does it sound?
I mean, Rex Ryan is sort of romanticizing his error.
But he did get the Jets to back to back
AFC title did which I mean right now, millennials are going, wait,
that happened, Jets.
Speaker 6 (18:46):
And nating missing field goals got the Jets in the
back to back that happened.
Speaker 4 (18:52):
That's true.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
But yes, they did get there. And then Rex Ryan
was awfull, lost control of the team and had to
be fired. But here he is now he wants to
get back. How embarrassing this guy's been on TV for
a long time and he still carries himself, still has
that Jets thing. It's like, come on, dude, let it go.
But you know what I'll tell you. Honestly, the world
saw this week that Woody Johnson is a horrible owner,
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that he's Jerry Jones low profile, not Jerry Jones light,
because he's throwing his weight around just like Jerry Jones does,
doing all kinds of disruptive things like hey, forcing the
Jets to practice making trades because of what he sees
on social media, obtaining players that his GM knows we
have to give them money for a new contract and
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then say no, there's no money there. The promo that's
been running on here on Fox Sports Radio, Brady Quinn
telling his big story about Woody Johnson. The whole world
knows now that Woody Johnson sucks. Now, yes, did you
know that? In NFL circles. Yeah, But in the end,
there's thirty two jobs and this is one of them,
and it's in New York. But after hearing this, now,
after all of this has gone public, who wants to
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go there? Who wants to go there and be the GM?
Who wants to go there and be the head coach?
And even if he goes back to London as the
ambassador to Great Britain, which he was when when Donald
Trump was president in twenty sixteen, his brother ran the team.
The team was terrible then, too true? Doesn't matter. So
who wants to go there saying I'm going to succeed there? Nobody.
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Nobody's coming there to change the culture. Nobody's going there
to think of a new way of doing things. Nobody's
going there to influence the team. You're going there and
you're gonna fail. So what are they gonna do. They're
gonna get somebody who, Hey, I'm never gonna get another
chance of being a GM, so I'm a GM. I'm
not gonna get another chance of being a head coach,
so I'm gonna be a head coach?
Speaker 4 (20:40):
Right? Ben Johnson is going near that job?
Speaker 1 (20:42):
Right? Nobody is? So you know what, Here's where I am.
Because I'm done, I'm broken, I'm defeated Higher Rex. At
least it will be fun. I no longer have any
belief that the Jets are ever gonna get it right,
and because all they do is fail. When you fail
for a decade with three different gms and three different
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head coaches and four different quarterbacks, like, are you ever
going to get it right?
Speaker 4 (21:06):
No?
Speaker 1 (21:06):
When you have a bad owner, it sucks, and especially
when you have a bad owner who wants to be
more and more involved. This time goes on. In the beginning,
he laid off, and the Jets are really good in
the aughts, and then he wanted to get more involved,
and now we stink. I no longer have any expectation.
I know you think, oh, you'll be back and be back. No,
I'm going to put my energy into my teams that
I know are set up right for success. The Mets'
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set up for success, the Nix's sit up for success,
and McDonald's and McDonald's set up for success well, especially
the five dollar meals that are coming in in early point.
I went to McDonald's tonight, got a chicken, big mac yet,
so good for you. But the Jets, I will forever
expect nothing from and if they do well, hey, it's
a bonus. That's kind kind of how I look at
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relationships in life and a lot about I don't expect
anything from anybody. I've had a lifetime now in the
my fifties and getting to the point where I understand
I not to expect from people, so I'm never gonna
be disappointed. Oh I thought you would do this for me.
Oh no, whether it's you know, people I know or
family or whatever. It was. So yeah, I mean it's
a tough way to live, but it also is sometimes
a necessary way to live. And I feel that way
about the Jets. I'm not gonna expect anything anymore because
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they're just gonna blow it, because they've blown it for
the better part of the forty years.
Speaker 4 (22:14):
And I've root it for them forty five years. I've
root it for them, and they ever gonna get it right. No,
they're not.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
They're not gonna get it right. It's gonna be like this,
Woody Johnson's gonna own the team forever. So yeah, if
they're if they're good, hey great. But I'm never gonna
expect anything from them.
Speaker 3 (22:27):
When I find out all the reasons, maybe I'll find No,
maybe I'll get it right next time.
Speaker 5 (22:33):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (22:33):
Cut to the chase.
Speaker 3 (22:35):
We look at the odds, and yes, it's all the
usual suspects up there and.
Speaker 1 (22:40):
Some longer odds.
Speaker 5 (22:42):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (22:42):
The last that I saw was still.
Speaker 3 (22:44):
Yeah, Johnson implied odds of you know, twenty to twenty
five percent that he would be the guy to your
point who wants a job. Well, it's still want to
thirty two, it's still New York, New Jersey. You'll have
a new GM. But as we've talked about a lot,
you can't get out of the way of your ownership.
And it's it's building what computer programs, apps, whatever on
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bad original coding. It's like, nope, we already spent the
money on that. You're gonna have to just fix it
in processing. No, it would be faster, easier and better
if we just rewrote this from scratch. No, no, no,
we're not gonna do that. We already spent all this
money and man hours and everything else. You just you
just fix from what what you got. It's not gonna work,
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and then you watch it blow up. Same thing here.
The infrastructure is bad and will rot. So I do
like that you're resigned to the Rex Ryan return. Does
he bring back everybody else that built those AFC contending squads,
Not the players.
Speaker 1 (23:41):
But the front office holmes. Come on back in, Mark Sanchez.
We like the way you're wearing your hair during your
games on Fox. Let's go. I mean like the cut
of your jam and I guess it's sort of poetic that, hey,
oh yes, Rex come back and coach considering Today is
the twelfth anniversary of the Butt Fun I'd break get
the most embarrassing play in Jet's history. And I say
that because you never know what the next week is
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going to bring. Although not this week because there's a
buye you do have a bye week. It really still
pretty ridiculous week you've been with a bye week.
Speaker 4 (24:09):
High Higher Res, I don't care.
Speaker 1 (24:11):
That's not nothing's gonna Whatever the Jets decide is always
going to be wrong. I'm kind of coming around to that,
so Higher X at least he'll be fun. He'll be fun,
and who knows, but go ahead. It doesn't matter well.
Speaker 3 (24:21):
To your point, I mean, it's recognizing who you are
as an individual or in this case, your team, very
very important things you're excizing of. You know, maybe relationships
that you felt were leaving you wanting is good. You're
you're doing a Marie Condo thing to relationships in your life,
cleaning up the clutter and moving on. In In theory,
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it helps you rest a little better and it keeps
you focused on what really matters.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
And for the.
Speaker 1 (24:47):
Jets, yeah, that's what you've been wishing and hoping they
would do. And this year was at least on paper Man.
How many people felt for the banana and the tailpipe
this year?
Speaker 4 (24:56):
Everybody?
Speaker 1 (24:57):
Everybody?
Speaker 4 (24:59):
Everybody? I did, Buddy, I mean, you just hate everything.
That's why. Just hate everything. That's why. Wow, you do,
don't you do?
Speaker 1 (25:05):
You did bring you cake? If I didn't love that cake?
Would I have brought you that cake?
Speaker 4 (25:09):
You brought me cake?
Speaker 1 (25:10):
Because if I hated you, would I have brought you cake?
Speaker 3 (25:12):
Would I have spent money out of my pocket not
to bring you a piece of cake for your damn
birthday Monday?
Speaker 1 (25:17):
A You could have stole the cake be you could
have tried it and not liked it and brought.
Speaker 4 (25:20):
It in for me.
Speaker 1 (25:21):
They didn't look like it was touched.
Speaker 4 (25:22):
I don't know. I mean, maybe you've been its own mix.
Speaker 1 (25:26):
Maybe you're a cake expert, maybe you're a you're maybe
you're a no cake expert.
Speaker 6 (25:31):
I mean there was a four inch hole in It's.
Speaker 1 (25:36):
Like Eman's at the end of the aisle. We got
more NFL coming up in ninety seconds, but first, a
guy who once loaded up cake with all kinds of
alcohol gave it to people here at Fox Sports Radio,
watched them all pass out, and Steve to saying it
was Tom it was what's trending.
Speaker 5 (25:52):
By the way, did you see all the pumpkin bread
that was here with Rob Parker and the show before? Man,
he was passing it out like it Wow. I was
kidding saying wowly not no douse.
Speaker 4 (26:01):
He didn't pay for it.
Speaker 1 (26:03):
I ain't paying exactly.
Speaker 5 (26:05):
Yes, we had college football on Fox and FS one
for this Friday night. The game on Fox was at
Michigan State. Spartans led Perdue twenty four to three mid
third quarter and beat him twenty four to seventeen. Perdue
as a team nineteen carries for minus four yards rushing,
and then on FS one tonight in the rain of
the Bay Area, number twenty four UNLV down early still
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one at San Jose State twenty seven to sixteen. Elsewhere,
UTSA beat Temple fifty one twenty seven. The New York
Giants are releasing quarterback Daniel Jones, agreeing to his request.
Speaker 4 (26:37):
Giants two and eight. They had bench Jones this week.
Speaker 5 (26:39):
Forty nine Ers quarterback brock Perty is out this weekend
with a sore shoulder. Brandon Allen will start at Green
Bay Sunday on Fox TV, and San Francisco defensive end
Nick Bosa is out with hip and oblique injuries. Eagles
wide receiver DeVante Smith is out for the Sunday night
game at the Rams due to a hamstring injuries, misspractice
all week. Dallas tight end Jake Ferguson out with concussion,
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but Panthers running back Jonathan brook says he'll make his
NFL debut this Sunday after last year's torn ACL. Carolina
hosts Kansas City. Panthers kicker Eddie Pinero misspracticed today with
a left knee injury. By the way, Chiefs running back
Isaiah Pacheco is still out this weekend after the broken
leg in September, but left tackle DJ Humphries is signing
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with the Chiefs after being medically cleared to return from
a torn ACL. Bucks wide receiver Mike Evans listed his questionable.
It seems he's due back after strain hamstring. He's missed
the last three games Tampa Bay at the Giants. Wide
receiver Molik Neighbors of New York questionable with a groin injury.
The Broncos at Chargers Week sixteen game was flexed from
a Sunday to a Thursday night, December nineteenth, instead of
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Brown's at Bengals that evening.
Speaker 1 (27:46):
Really, so this is a surprise. They're not keeping that game.
Speaker 5 (27:49):
The surprise is that they actually used the late season
flex for a Thursday night game for the first time.
The surprise is they actually put the Browns in the
Bengals on a late season game. Well, you know that,
Deshaun Watson, This's gonna be a great offense. You just okay,
we can't even finish the sentence.
Speaker 1 (28:05):
Could have sold the Bengals coming in right.
Speaker 5 (28:08):
They did get flexed in Sunday night, and we had
a tremendous game against the Chargers last week. The thing is,
for those this is not being flexed from an afternoon
to an evening, for those who bought tickets for a
Chargers Denver Sunday afternoon game, It's not on the weekend
at all. It's on a Thursday at five o'clock before
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Christmas in LA.
Speaker 1 (28:31):
Good luck to all.
Speaker 5 (28:32):
Of proof further proof that the NFL cares about TV
viewers greatly, ticket holders not so much. By the way,
Chargers wide receiver Lad mccaukee returned to limited practice today.
He's had a shoulder injury. Baltimore plays Monday nights at
the Chargers Ravens running back Justice Hill practice fully, he's
been in concussion protocol. NBA wins for Golden State and Milwaukee.
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Boston came back to beat Washington, which is lost ten straight.
Philly down Brooklyn, even though Joel mbat n Paul George
reach out at least a couple of games with knee injuries.
The Lake games went to the Clippers and to Dallas,
which was up nineteen in the third quarter at Denver.
Dallas won the game one twenty three to one twenty
and the late game in college basketball is at the half.
Speaker 1 (29:14):
Number ten.
Speaker 5 (29:14):
North Carolina leads at Hawaii forty one thirty four Tennessee
beat Baylor Duke one at Arizona. Nebraska won at number
fourteen Creighton.
Speaker 1 (29:22):
Back to you, Steve, I wouldn't let you know the
NFL just emailed me about your status as working for
the Chargers on the weekends. Tell that gas bag to
Saga if he can't work on Sunday. Don't even think
about this.
Speaker 4 (29:38):
This is not about me.
Speaker 1 (29:40):
I can work all of those days.
Speaker 5 (29:41):
Drop everything.
Speaker 4 (29:42):
Tell you what said.
Speaker 5 (29:43):
I'm telling you people pay good money for a Sunday
game and they're not getting a weekend game. In the
least not fair.
Speaker 1 (29:51):
Tell the saga get bent. He's done from at our
good good all right, So there you go. That was
that's where it came from, right there, that's he came
up with a sure Yeah, thank you, Steve Evans, The
Jason Smithson with Mike Carmen Live from the Tirack dot
Com Studios. We do it every week here we give
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you our upset special picks in the NFL. Gonna put
my my fifteen to five record on the line again
and I'm gonna kick things off. Yeah by taking your
Chicago Bears, what are you doing? Why do you keep
going down that rabbit hole? Bears are getting four against
the vice. Sam Darnold is coming back to earth. He
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has been a much different quarterback the last seven weeks
compared to the.
Speaker 4 (30:39):
First four weeks.
Speaker 1 (30:40):
Chicago's defense, outside of you know, honking it up with
fans when there's a hail Mary, Chicago's defense has been
pretty good. And I don't think that the Vikings are
gonna be able to run the football on the Bears
enough to overcome that. Caleb Williams is kind of in
a stop and go phase right now. If he's getting
it a little bit of a step back, step big
step forward, little bit step back, step forward. As long
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as he continues to be able to run the football,
they put in design plays and let him make plays
with his legs.
Speaker 4 (31:08):
Look, he ran for seventy yards last week. Much better
week last week than the week before.
Speaker 1 (31:12):
When they're opening things up, Caleb Williams is starting to
come along. I thought it would be a little bit
of a faster track for him, but it's starting to
come along a little bit slower, but it's coming along.
They will have enough to slow down the Vikings and
I want the points. Don't get me wrong, this is
not one of those. I'll take the four points. But
the Bear slow the Vikings and Sam Darnald down enough
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the pass rush gets to Donald. When the pass rush
is there, Donald Panics doesn't know what he sees downfield.
He's not gonna be able to continue to just throw
it up to Justin Jefferson, which is what he's done
all season long. Justin Kitchen, Ketcha.
Speaker 4 (31:45):
Ketchen, give me the Bears getting four.
Speaker 3 (31:48):
I wish I shared your optimism and your ability to
do I'm in your ability to dramatic readings and Paula
abdul lyrics, step forward, step side to the left, rush.
Speaker 1 (32:00):
Rush, hurry, let me do that one too. Yeah no
in that video.
Speaker 3 (32:05):
Oh yeah, absolutely yeah, Thomas Brown, I mean good debut
calling things last week looked better. Rashawn Johnson with a
much bigger role, and he might have to do it
again with Swift and his Garoin injury. But I did, like,
you know, Caleb was more decisive, for sure. I wish
I shared your optimism. I'm gonna take New England plus
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seven and a half against Miami Dolphins, given seven plus
to anybody come on divisional matchup. New England still plays defense.
Drake May's look better. You talk about Caleb Williams and
rookies on the rise, Drake May trying to make some
noisier down the stretch that's had a more cohesive look
to it of late. If they can slow down eight
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Chan and most Shirt, they win this game out right, you.
Speaker 1 (32:50):
Know what, forget it. I'm gonna call for them to
win this game on the road, and thank you so
much for saying that. Seeks.
Speaker 5 (32:57):
See.
Speaker 4 (32:57):
The thing is, I like the Dolphins.
Speaker 1 (32:58):
I think the Dolphins are gonna go on to run
here and suddenly in a month, you're gonna say, Wow,
Now they were dead and gone and here they are
in the playoff picture. Yeah, so there's the beginning. Wow,
our upset special picks. Mike and I each have one more,
plus another big quarterback story from the NFL, Hugh Aaron Rodgers.
That's coming up next. Right here, Jason and Mike, this
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is Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (33:22):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven
pm Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 1 (33:33):
Oh, Let's drink some velvet. Fox Sports Radio. The Jason
Smith Show with My best friend Mike Harmon. Is there
like something that says I can't play drops about myself?
Speaker 4 (33:42):
Is I like cod and radio or something?
Speaker 1 (33:44):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (33:44):
I don't think so okay cool. I think you're fine.
Speaker 3 (33:46):
I like that their throwbacks. Listen, listen to how young
and excitable you were?
Speaker 1 (33:50):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, no, now ty shit is all he's
old and weathered and yeah no, I understand alright, five
minutes he smokes cigarettes, now eats meat.
Speaker 4 (33:58):
Yeah, he's just he's gave it and gave it all up.
One of those isn't true.
Speaker 1 (34:02):
It's a lot of accusations. So we'll get to a
big quarterback story coming up in a couple of seconds.
Speaker 4 (34:11):
Finish Aaron Rodgers. It's not Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 1 (34:13):
Although it's not Aaron Rodgers, but Mike and I in
the midst of giving you are upset special picks for
the week in the NFL. I gave you Mike Harmon
Chicago Bears. He gave you the New England Patriots. Each
have one more. Let's finish up here. Why don't you
go first, give your second upset special pick?
Speaker 3 (34:34):
Remember point twelve games left. Because you got six teams
on a buy, including your Jets, you get to sleep
in and sleep easy. Maybe no nightmares for you Saturday
into Sunday morning. I'm going to take the Indianapolis Colts.
Why getting sent on at home? Detroit come into town.
Speaker 1 (34:51):
You're betting on Anthony Richardson because he had a good
game against the Jet. No, I'm betting on chaos, okay,
and that the Lions cannot be this ug or not
every damn week. And somewhere along the way, there's a
hiccup at a conference out of cast. Could you plan
what Anthony Richardson's doing Nope, that's it chaos theory. I
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will say to you what plus seven? What the King
said the United States when John Adams became president good luck?
Speaker 3 (35:20):
Oh, I'm not saying it's I would rush to the
window with, you know, thousands and thousands of American dollars.
Speaker 4 (35:27):
John Adams, the Indianapolis.
Speaker 2 (35:29):
Colts, good luck.
Speaker 1 (35:32):
I mean I wish I was getting the hook like
I was, yeah, yeah, yeah, But I'll take the plus
seven that there's there's enough chaos in the offense and
that they find a stop or two along the way,
and to echo the Simpsons and thanks to Anthony Richardson's
last second heroics, the final score Indianapolis ten, Detroit fifty six. Uh.
Speaker 4 (35:54):
I'm gonna go.
Speaker 1 (35:55):
And it feels weird that I'm doing this because I shouldn't,
because remember I started out thirteen in two with my
upset space. Yeah, no, on your own count and the
only no. You can turn them on Twitter. You can
check on Twitter's official. It's absolutely official.
Speaker 5 (36:08):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (36:08):
And my only losses was because I took the Rams twice,
going back to the Rams, give me the Rams over
the Lazy Eagles, the Lazy Eagles getting Devonte Smith.
Speaker 4 (36:20):
Getting three and a half.
Speaker 1 (36:22):
The Eagles have sort of run into this rut of
we don't really show up in the first half, we
play in the second half and it's enough to pull
it out. Uh yes, no, Devonte Smith, I will always
take Sean mcvayh to out Coach Nick Sirianni. The Rams
are starting to get hot. Matthew Stafford's starting to go
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on his late season heater again.
Speaker 4 (36:45):
They need the game more.
Speaker 1 (36:47):
They will make Jalen Hurts try to win this game.
This team has become an Eagles team that is reliant
on Saquon Barkley. They will slow him down enough. The
Rams will be able to win this game. It'll be
another big day for Matthew Stafford. The Eagles take one
on the chin. Maybe this makes them go back and focus, saying, hey,
we can't show up dead for the neck up for
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the first half and still win. That happens on Sunday.
The Rams get out to a big lead. They don't
look back. I'm not gonna need the three and a
half points, but I'll take them because you're giving them
to I dig that. Can I give you one more?
Real quick guy?
Speaker 3 (37:21):
Get a little more chaos theory Tennessee plus seven and
a half at Houston. The defense is good enough to
give c. J. Stroud fits. Yeah, but Kenny just playing
quarterback for the Titans. How great would that be to
four thousand yard passer?
Speaker 1 (37:35):
If you ask state legend, if you asked the average fan,
not the serious fan. If you ask the average fan, Hey,
who's playing quarterback for the Titans this week?
Speaker 4 (37:46):
Not like, who's a quarterback of that?
Speaker 2 (37:47):
Who's playing this week?
Speaker 1 (37:49):
They would go, I don't know, man, I don't know
Daniel Jones, I don't know. Wow, Daniel Jones back. Good
for you.
Speaker 3 (37:57):
Hey, now you like that peaking of Daniel Jones, Kerrie,
I thought he was a Super Bowl cham. I know
he got to one with the Giants.
Speaker 5 (38:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (38:09):
Uh, Daniel Jones is let go by the Giants. We
talked about it last night. Hey, try to hold on
to him. You can get a draft pick for him.
He's gonna be sought after. The Giants thought, well, we
looked like a pretty good organization if we let him go.
He's been classy. If he's around the team for the
next few months before we trade him, is it worth
it to get a fifth round pick? We're going to
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let him go. But I got news for you, man.
Just do math and I'll tell you. Daniel Jones, well, ay,
he could be starting for the Cowboys on Thanksgiving against
the Giant. When he passes through waivers, he pops out
of the cattle to watch Jerry Jones. Hey, good way
to get headlines of a game that nobody's paying attention to. Hey, Daniel,
put that star on you helmet, come in and make
some passes. But look at the math. There's gonna be
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at least eight teams looking for a new quarterback in
the offseason. The free agent list of quarterbacks is headed
by Sam Darnold. He's the only guy that you could
say a team would sign ahead of Daniel Jones. And
it's close, like it's still Sam Darnold. The rest of
the list is terrible. It's all backups. Okay, let's go
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to the NFL Draft. There's two sure fire guys going
in the top five, Shooter Sanders and cam Ward, and
even now Carson Beck he's gonna go later in the draft.
Probably those are the only two quarterbacks in the first round.
It's a bad year for quarterbacks. So if the best
free agent quarterback is one and the best college quarterbacks
they're gonna come in and start right away. Is two.
You got five other teams that need a bridge quarterback
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before they move on to what's next. Daniel Jones will
be one of those guys. He will be starting in
the NFL next year. Because the math tells you whether
it's hey, we're gonna sign you for this year and
then figure things out, or we draft a guy but
it's a second or third round pick we're waiting for him.
He will go play this year for us, probably the Jets,
I'm sure the Jets where they get to Jordan Travis,
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whoever else is gonna be, but somewhere probably the Jets though,
but he will be somewhere starting next year.
Speaker 3 (40:01):
Give the Giants full credit of recognizing what a cesspool
things had become this week and just fixing the glitch right,
because hey, did you have a plan for any of us? No,
we did, now clearly not. But yeah, he'll be quarterbacking
in a couple of weeks right once he clears waivers.
Will be really interesting to see what teams just try
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to fortify things, making sure you've got a guy who's
actually taken some NFL snaps recently down the stretch.
Speaker 1 (40:29):
And he'll sign with a team as soon as he
passes through waivers. Again, I really wanted to be the
Cowboys so we can start for them.
Speaker 4 (40:34):
I know, be so great.
Speaker 1 (40:36):
And he comes out to Creed, it would get people
to watch. Oh, I would watch him if he comes
out to Creed like he has like a Ray Lewis,
like intro to Creed with the smoke in a day,
does dance and everything. Yeah, yeah, okay, people will watch that.
See what we did there will I would not plan
my nap for on Thanksgiving Day for during the Giants
Cowboys game. Then there you go. I will not plan
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it for then. I'll plan it for the fourth quarter
after the Lions are winning by a lot, before we
get to the first quarter of the Captill you had
to go.
Speaker 3 (41:02):
You're picking the Bears and then you go and bury
him in the final seconds of the week.
Speaker 4 (41:06):
Up next Burn and Bernie Fratto. This is fuck.
Speaker 1 (41:08):
You're a jerk.