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Fifteen seconds, third and twenty six. Caleb's gotta make a
play here with eleven seconds to go in the game,
awaiting the snap, Gotta hurry it up. Seven to six.
Takes the snap, Caleb Williams from the pocket sings it
down the field, twisting turning inside the five as time
expires for Roma Dunza. That's it, no flags, and the
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ballgame is over. Everybody's standing around and stunned, dis belief
on both sides. Nobody's celebrating, but the game is over.
Sucking happen down the stretch here. It did not make sense.
Third and twenty six. That ball goes incomplete and Alliance
survived a hillacious comeback by the Bears from sixteen down.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
Another one third down and seven from the Seattle nine.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
Flitz's coming throw inside, It's kick on.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
Leo Williams coming near sign.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
He's running like a race horse.
Speaker 4 (01:21):
He's a big field turns up field at Blockers, Poli.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
Smoker, You kidding, Leo Williams.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
It's gonna take it in for a touchdown Jayawks. Meanwhile,
holla do it.
Speaker 5 (01:34):
Forty seven seconds left, Cousins Robinson to his left, looking
middle of the field.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
No pressure throws.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
Editor septad Derwin James ends the game.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
Too at Durwin and due to their defense, the Bolts.
Speaker 5 (01:51):
Are gonna get on a plane back to Los Angeles
with a victory.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
Gold Chargers. Well, that's the night show. Ben Maller is next.
Can I everybody? It was a good run. It's good
to be back. Happy holidays, we'll see the heavy holidays.
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Speaker 2 (02:29):
Yes, yes, yes, the Broncos and continually.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
I can already tell you the storyline the next twenty
four hours is going to be cow great. Sean Payton is. Yes,
he's a coach. The yeah yeah, no, we kind of
told you that a couple of weeks ago. But there
is your there is your big take tonight. Plus that's
all right, He's still gonna lose to Jamis. One of
the see Jameis Winston experience. This is exactly why I
think people go, man, I miss Jamis, I have the lightning.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
Maybe let's James.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
He moves his team up and down the field. It's
two touchdowns for his team to every one he gives
up for the other team. And you had that tonight.
Two touchdown passes, actually three touchdown passes. He's got the
two to his team and he's got the one to
the Broncos. No, he keeps both teams in the game
like nobody else. Man, he is a scoring machine. The
pick six, you throw your hands up and then they
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get the ball back at bam, right back down the
field and away you go. Never boring, You're never gonna
be able to say it's a boring situation there. Look,
bo Nix has gotten away with a couple of pretty
bad throws, and his stat line should look a lot worse,
except you know, they smartly batted the ball down and
allowed them to actually punt, all right. They then got
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the ball ten yards further back than they would have
with the pick.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
But that's okay.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
It was a third down punt kind of situation. But
all said, twenty one to seventeen at halftime, it's a
game we will take considering the number of dogs, and
obviously with that open the efforts of our respective teams.
I told you we could run the press conference the
Bears did earlier today with Poles and Warren. Everybody knows
my thoughts on Warren. I almost got bleeped on my
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own show for it a while back ago.
Speaker 5 (04:03):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
But the that we could run that as a comedy
block and maybe won an Emmy. Uh yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
Look, it's a it's been a weekend. It's it's been
a weekend for everybody.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
I almost stormed the Uh.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
I was gonna go down to the Tampa studio just
start banging out of the door on Thursday. I'm leieving
Thanksgiving dinner. Why I mean, I'm going into the studio
to do the show. I mean, Frostbury. I couldn't get
one of Kyle McCord's touchdowns. Come on, man, I couldn't
get the biggest win syracusees had in years, maybe twenty
five years. I couldn't get a col McCord touchdown. I
really thought you would have at least gotten the clip
of him mocking Ohio State. I'll tell you there are
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happy people this weekend, and Michigan certainly is happy, but
there is nobody had The party at the mccorthouse must
have been lit because they might just be waking up
the performance against Miami.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
And oh yeah, you didn't think I.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
Could Uh, I could throw the watching Will Howard give
the ball away at Ohio State. Couldn't trust him to
throw the football at all on Saturday? Oh I was
the problem. I was a problem here. I am I'm
the number one passer in the country. No one has
thrown from more yards this year than me. But I
was the problem. It must have been lit in his house.
There's a meme that makes the rounds whenever there's one
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of these situations where there's like like a v formation
on a blacktop, right, so they're on a basketball court
and then the dude kind of creeps up to the
middle and then they go into a dance that's kind
of the McCord family.
Speaker 5 (05:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
Yeah, it was full on celebration.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
You want to talk about a happy Thanksgiving weekend and
a lot of spiking. I mean, they planted a flag somewhere,
I'm sure, but look, but let me just say this
because obviously the you know, look, the Bears have really
owned the news cycle for the past few days, the
fire of Eberflus after everything happened on Thanksgiving. And here's
the thing, and this is why when I'm like, man,
I wish I was on the air that night, Yeah,
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is that there's a lot to rip Eberflus for. But
I think people just saw, oh, he didn't he had
a time out and he didn't use it, and that's
just ridiculous, and that became the story, and that was
the piece of momentum that went overboard. Right, what did
you see? What'd you find out today? All the players
after the game chant we had the time out? Why
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didn't we use it? And I'm sitting here going, how
do I know more about football than so many people
just want to see the timeout and go, how do
that use the timeout? It's third and twenty six, Okay,
there's thirty three seconds left in the game. It's third
and twenty six. You're not getting the first down and
you can't spike it on fourth down, so you need
the time out to get the kicking unit onto the field.
And I know Bill Cower right after the game said, oh,
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you run your kicking unit on the field.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
Oh you can, really, I mean you can run. First
of all, it's the Bears kicking unit. You want them to.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
They're the keystone cops of the NFL. I don't think
they could. I don't think they can find their helmets
and time to run on the field. So I get so,
so I disagree with the oh you should just call
time out. Okay, you're gonna have to really want to
do that. You want to that kind of chaos and
run them onto the field. That's stupid. That's not the
real point. The real point is that with thirty three
seconds left, there was no anticipation that, Okay, if some
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thing happens, we have to run a play quickly so
we can try to get more yards to the field
goal and it took them thirty three seconds to run
that play. It was Comet and DJ Moore lollygagging their
way back when they got to get back fast, and
the Bears overall and Eberflues didn't really have a plan
for if we get sacked, what do we do? All Right,
that's the big and that's the latest on all the
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things that Eberflus did at the end of games, the
meltdown to these hat just not being able to navigate
the end of football games. That was, to me was
a big one. Is that, Yeah, I get not using
the time out, get everybody back, you throw a pass
for ten twelve yards, you call time out, you get
your kicker out there, and you tie the game like
that should have been what it was. But to take
twenty eight seconds before you snap the ball like that,
that's what's on Eberflus.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
That's that was the worst part. Well, but that's it.
It's the latest in the long line.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
And look, folks would go at swollen don plenty of
threads on this timeouts, agreed, just but it's the we
don't have anything set, so someone's got to be a
leader in the moment, right Eberflus. Obviously, it's the amalgam
of a month of just misery in the end of
game situations, right, what do I always say, if you're
gonna fail, fail spectacularly? And he did at every turn.
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Here was another end of game situation where you take
the sack right your offensive line. Again, a lot of
questions and this is why the muted tones and everything
in ten to twelve seconds of silence. We couldn't even
play the Ryan Poles clips from the Pressure today because
there'd be too much dead air. We'd start having all
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sorts of triggers as he went to answer questions like
what went wrong with Shane Waldron.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
Ten seconds ten seconds before he says a word, you
had four days. You guys have been in hiding for
four bleeping days.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
And that's again exactly, hey man, when we said Eberflus
out there on Friday, we didn't know.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
We were gonna fire him. My answer just a clown show,
one after another. But to the end of game situation quarterback.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
We know his physical attitude. As a leader of the team,
he can call all the time out. You got Keenan Allen,
you got all these guys that pretend to be leaders,
and I'll give your new head coach, mister Brown a
little bit of love in that he actually raised his
hand and he goes, you know, I have a part
in that too. It's part partially my faults, which is
if you go back in my timeline exactly what I
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was asking. He's like, Eperflore's not the only guy that
can call a damn time out as soon as you
realize you weren't getting to the line anywhere close to
getting it done and giving yourself enough time to run
a real play.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
And everybody's confused.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
Someone could have called the time out at thirty two seconds, Yeah,
right as you and Cole Comett needs to stop, you know,
trying to take the guys heads off in pass routes.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
But that's a whole other thing. Two of those.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
But all of that to say, it was the perfect
bookend because guess what, Caleb Williams pass attempt didn't get
to the end zone, just like the Hail Mary four
weeks ago with Jade and Daniels didn't get to the
end zone.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
Same thing.
Speaker 1 (09:59):
He didn't hurt that at that point, Like, what did
you want at that point? You just I just hope
they don't the clock doesn't the ball, The ball isn't
even stage. That's all you were hoping. So, are we're
gonna get the playoffs? Are we gonna get the play
that's all your own my mom's is that gonna happen?
Speaker 5 (10:14):
Like?
Speaker 1 (10:14):
All right, it's time neat, I'm like, you're kidding right,
Like there's two minutes left of this game and.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
It's the Bears time. Are you kidding?
Speaker 1 (10:20):
Like all of that, and your point about getting the
field goal unit out and actually being able to attempt
something is apt, assuming.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
Again, you can run the other and that's when when
But if you were said, if you take the time
out in thirty seconds and then in.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
Theory you can get up, clock the ball whatever, assuming
you're but you got to get third and twenty six.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
That's the thing.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
It's not fright and four twenty six you're not getting
the first down. You need to be able to show
get out about Yeah. So that's what that that's the
whole thing that people missed in that whole story was
that you know, well, if you take the time out there,
let's you you don't know how long that next play
is gonna run. What if Caleb Williams is rushed out
of the pocket, he throws across the field. Suddenly there's
fifteen seconds left by the time the play is over.
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Now styles and you try to run everybody on the
field for a kick. Now, the thing was was that
and that's and that's the whole thing is that there's
certain times when you can't handle parts of a game
that's going to wind up getting you fired. Happened with
Brandon Stanley in the fourth and twos with the Chargers,
and happened with Matt Eberfluss. When when you keep melting
down at the end of games and there's decisions you
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are making after your team fights for fifty nine minutes
and twenty seven seconds and you make up and you're
not ready with something at the end of a game
that's going to get you fired. It's funny, though, Jason,
because part part of the discussion is also the how
about we explain to no show effort on both sides
of the ball for the first half, Right, you want
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to talk about lifeless on both ends? Right all your
offensive your coordinator is a genius. Oh he goes from
being you know, goes up the ladder three rungs in
eighteen days. This is the guy that you finally now
seem to have some semblance of an offense you want
to run. It's like, oh, you know what, let's keep
the head coaching responsibilities on top of that and promote
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another guy.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
This is good, great strategy. So you've got that rolling.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
But Eberflus never took accountability for a damn thing as
oh we had the right call. I wouldn't change a thing, like.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
Really see that? Just and yeah, and that was okay.
What he's got to do is explain.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
Can't say wouldn't change a thing, because like, okay, you
really screwed up the you can't screw up at the
end inside wouldn't change a thing. You have to take
a little bit responsibility and say this is what I
wanted to do.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
We weren't just explain it just how I did.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
It's crazy that from three thousand miles away that I
can say, I go, okay, I understand what's happening here,
and you don't see that, and and I look.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
I can't help that.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
I you know that that I know more fro about
football apparently than Bill Coward does. But uh, you know
that you gotta you gotta take up and understand, okay,
this is my fault. That goes so far. When someone
says my fault, this is on me, I let the
guys down. That goes a long way. It goes a
long way to respect in the locker room, respect whether
you know, even with your friends, if you screw up,
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if something happens all I'm in a fight with a
friend of mine because I was supposed to pick him
up for the airport, but then he didn't text me.
But I wasn't here. But then I realized it's my fault.
I can't say anything. You come back and say, hey, listen,
my fault. I screwed up. That that's my bad. It
goes a long way. It goes well, it was longer
than it should, but it goes a long way. But
for have Eeberflus no in a moment again, when when
it comes down to a big moment, not knowing what
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to say or what to do, that's Eberflu's saying, oh no, no,
I was I would do the right thing, and get no,
you wouldn't do the same thing. And because obviously you
had time to do something different and you didn't do it.
That that was I always think that there's times in
postgame press conferences. That is the final straw to see
a coach fired, Like when Robert Sala said nobody in
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this locker room is panicking after they lost in London
to the Vikings. I said, that's it. That's the moment
that they decided to fire him. And I think that
was probably the moment for eberfools when he said I
do the same thing again. Okay, no, dude, you're gone now. Now,
that's it. Wherever it was, it was a teetering. That's
where guys walk away and the owner and the GM
that no, that's it, you're done. I can't believe you
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said that. If we were having any sort of question,
that tilted it forever the other way.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
Yeah, I think whatever.
Speaker 1 (14:10):
Jay Glazer reported also Jalen Johnson lighting into Eberflus after
his hey, good job, good effort, I have a good
holiday speech was really about all you needed out of that, right,
he said, it was a good ten to fifteen minutes.
I heard Johnson on in Chicago earlier and he goes, ah,
guys get hired and fired. That wasn't on me, Like, no, no, no,
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everybody wants to build a statue to you don't try
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On the show, they played one side of the ball.
They got a tone. It said, hayting for still No exactly.
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It's not for it ain't what we no, No, Absolutely,
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Speaker 2 (16:57):
Jay, what's happening, Bud?
Speaker 5 (16:59):
Let's go going on? Gentlemen?
Speaker 2 (17:01):
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Speaker 5 (17:08):
He's pretty goodly that's so multiple pick six, isn't it.
Speaker 1 (17:13):
Yeah, he's the next time Jameis Winston, Yeah, next Jamus
Winston is absolutely.
Speaker 5 (17:17):
Yeah, he's a gunslinger.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
You know, I got to say, I didn't realize how
much I missed Jameis Winston until tonight back at the whole. Hey,
two touchdowns from my team, one touchdown for yours, Like
I really I kind of miss that. That that big
uh uh, you know, amusement park ride that is Jameis Winston.
Speaker 5 (17:35):
He's an adventure. Yeah, There's there's no two ways about it.
Like he's not changing. I mean, look, I think he's
not changing. He first of all, he should be a
starting quarterback in this league, and I don't think he
would lead the league in interceptions if he was now.
I also don't know if he'd lead it in touchdowns again,
and that obviously happened in the same year. But I
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don't think he's you know, quite as egregious with some
of this stuff as he to be. But like he
brings a different energy, people clearly respond to him. I mean,
this is two straight years now where you've seen two
straight older gunslinger quarterbacks with very different outward mentalities, right,
and very different leadership styles in Joe Flacco and Jameis Winston.
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And they both have bought a moribund franchise to life
in a way that the guy that's been in, you know,
a two hundred and sixty million fully guaranteed on could
never even think of it. Like even if you take
his horrible brand of football out of it and their
superior brand of quarterbacking, Like just if you just watch
the sidelines, if you just listen to their comments through
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the week and watch their you know, media interactions. Like
if you just watch their energy from play to play,
it's just so just the way they are in the
huddle and just the tempo and like at night and day,
that owner's got to be feeling like a real jackass,
because like, I don't know if these two guys can
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do what they're doing over the course of you know,
seventeen games, like you know, Flackow and Winston, but what
they're being paid, you know, the value that they're deriving,
and just the superior vibes and just the feeling and
a spree de core and all that stuff. It's just
so different. It's it's just so different. This bo Nick
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isn't half bad either.
Speaker 2 (19:27):
Yeah, that was one hell of a throw.
Speaker 5 (19:29):
My god.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
Yeah, bo Nicks just goes ninety three yards to Marvin
Mims right now. People are going, oh, I had him
in my fantasy two years ago and I let him go.
Now he's good again. Oh my goodness. It's just for
one play, all right. So you use the word more
abund we joked because coming out of a holiday weekend,
no bigger story than my decrepit Chicago Bears organization and
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then they ran out a clown show press conference today.
I have had a load of no confidence. Did you
get anything that inspired you out of any of this weekend?
Speaker 5 (20:04):
Oh? Come on, you guys know how I feel about
the franchise. I mean, there, you've got all these people
who've been in the league for generations. I mean, the
team has been in the family for literally generations, and
there's no one there with the damn clue Like it's
just I mean, it's and I look, I like the
Kevin Warren higher and I'm going to believe that Kevin
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Warren can at least get them, you know, help them
find the confident NFL head coach. Like I'm I think
that's possible. Now, will the guy you know actually pull
it off and get them where they want to go
and turn them into a perennial contender. I don't know,
a lot of people have failed at that. I don't
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know how much they're going to spend, you know, Like,
I mean, there's there should be no excuse for that
franchise like that. That franchise should be buying as hard,
spending as much, doing as much as any in the NFL,
just because of where they are, and because of some
of the advantages they have, and because of that fan base,
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and because of their history, and because that family has
made so much money off that franchise for so many generations.
But I just don't know, man, you know, they're preoccupied
with the stadium thing. They just don't seem like they
can get out of their way. They let people like
Trace Armstrong, you know, just systematically just treat them like
an ATM. And they just stuck it with his clients,
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and he just keeps pulling the strings, and you know,
they keep listening to the same fold, telling them the
same stuff. And you know, I don't know. I mean,
there's part of me that says it has to turn,
but like there was also part of me that fault.
When they finally got that fraud ted Phillips out of
the building, it would change. But you know, it was
just a symptom of the problem. Like he wasn't a disease.
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He was. He was a symptom of the disease. He was.
He was spawned and calls and created and incubated by
the disease. The disease is ownership.
Speaker 1 (22:07):
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Speaker 2 (22:11):
All Right, so from.
Speaker 1 (22:12):
The embarrassing, let's go from the bottom to the top here,
because it doesn't get much lower.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
I thought you were going to go talk about my team.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
No, no, no, no, no, it's Look, we saw a
couple of unbelievable performances this weekend, and I know that
the general consensus after the big touchdown last night. Oh,
Josh Allen MVP. I look at this jaego. I think
it's a two man race now for the rest of
the season with Josh Allen and Saquon Barkley.
Speaker 5 (22:37):
I mean, people want to throw Lamar Jackson out of
this thing. And I mean I just I keep kind
of sitting back and chuckling, Like, look at the schedule
coming out of the buy, you know what I mean.
Like he's played a lot of football, they played the
championship game last year. They don't have to buy till
week fourteen. Like, you don't think he's going to tear
the New York Jets up coming out of a bye,
you know, Like he hasn't run the ball forever then
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he ends up. You look, yesterday I only picked up
seventy five on the ground, Like he averages sixty eight
yards a game rushing in the month of December in
his career. Like, you don't think he's going to come
out of this thing? Looks like eight hundred and fifty rushing, yus?
Like if he watches for eight hundred and fifty or
nine hundred yards right an illegial league in passer rating,
and he throws thirty four or thirty six touchdown passes
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and he glows for forty five hundred yards, But he
produces a close to fifty five hundred yards and over
forty combined touchdowns and has his best season he's ever had.
You're telling me he's not going to win the MVP.
Speaker 2 (23:38):
It's justin Ducker's fault.
Speaker 5 (23:41):
I mean, I don't know if fault. I mean, like,
and look, the Eagles are a good team, and the
Eagles shut them down in a way nobody has. But like,
do you think the Giants are doing that? Do you
think the Texans are doing it? And look, it's going
to come down to a Saturday against Pittsburgh and everybody's
going to know the narratives, right, and Pittsburgh owns him
and he got to be kidding me.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
Yeah, are you?
Speaker 5 (24:05):
You're not in a too deep shell, like you don't
think that's the damn But like if he if he
goes out and and and even if they lose that game,
but if he goes out and has a Lamar Jackson
game against Pittsburgh and and then you know, I just
I think the numbers are going to speak for themselves.
I just do, like think about that. Like, nobody in
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the history of the game is had a forty five
hundred yard passing season and a nine hundred yard rushing
season and combined for forty some touchdowns, And you're telling
me that's not gonna be good enough.
Speaker 1 (24:39):
Well, Barkley, if if Saquon Barkley could break Dickerson's record
Week sixteen.
Speaker 5 (24:46):
Happens that if that were to happen, then we've got
a conversation. But I also don't know that what are
they going to do if they run away with that division,
Like if they clinched the division in a week, you
know what I mean, They're gonna be riding him really hard,
like they're not going to back off him. And I
get it, Like, if they've got a chance to get
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to buy I get it. But like, I don't know, man,
I just don't. I think the Ravens are going to
have to push proceeding and to try to keep pace
with Pittsburgh. You know, maybe week eighteen and he's nothing
for either team. But I don't think he's breaking that
record if he doesn't play every game.
Speaker 1 (25:26):
There you go, MVP chatter. As we roll through automatic bids.
We've already finished off some of the divisions. I'd be
remiss if we didn't circle back. We've kicked the can
on Aaron Rodgers quite a bit here on the show,
and certainly with you, mister Lockevore. I mean, look, the
end of the year is fine, get rid of him.
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Does he actually get bench to released?
Speaker 5 (25:50):
I guess it just depends on what he I mean
the release part. I mean, you've already paid him a
lot of money. If you're going to bench him, you
might as well just cut him. I mean, right, will
be a point of paying all that money to back up?
Like if you're dumbling them, you're dumbling them, and he's
got there, He's got you know, mechanism and triggering in
his contract that comes up early in the league year,
and I mean, there's no way in hell they're going
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to keep him. I mean, I wrote about we sing
to watch him post that. There's no freaking way that
they were going to pay him that money next year,
whether he wants the player, doesn't want to play, or
wants to be there or doesn't want to be there,
all that whole line of reporting is just it's it's
all just trash because it's not his decision. He doesn't
pay him that kind of money. He sucks. Nobody's paying
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that kind of money. They were only fools who want
to paid him this money in the first place. So
that's a moot point. You know. Look, he has a
way of writing checks with his mouth that his body
can't cash anymore. So could you go out and say
something stupid or try to call their bluff, or you know,
just just talk his way out of the building, like
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say enough stupid craft that they're just like get his
ass out of here, like he could. I don't think
that's beneath him by any stres City imagination. He's so machiavellian.
He's probably sitting there right now trying to figure out
what he could do to act about it. You know.
So I don't know, guys, but who cares. I mean,
if they're a blighte on football, he's a blite on football.
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Like they're just they're both so full of their own fat.
They were a perfect match, Like they were the first
perfect fraud franchise to bring that fraud quarterback in and
pay him, you know, for a fall going salary. So
there's that all right.
Speaker 1 (27:28):
Lastly, obviously the big injury news of the day, the
forty nine ers find out no Christian McCaffrey for the
rest of the season, No Jordan Mason for the rest
of the season. I think Charlie Garner is going to
start on Sunday. The forty nine are sitting there at
five and seven. Yes, they've had injuries. Are they done?
Can they have a run? Do they still have anything
in them here at five and seven?
Speaker 5 (27:50):
No? No, I like, I haven't bought them since the summer,
so I know that's probably the wrong guy, because all
they've done is confirm I guess my previous Entrice is
that this is going to be a long, long year
for them. No, I don't buy really anything about them,
and they're going to have one of the more interesting
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offseasons in the NFL. Like, what do they do with
that quarterback? Did they just kick the can on that
for another year? I saw as hell would who stays?
Who goes like nobody's buying that they're going to pay
debot and I you that that money, like it doesn't
make a whole lot of sense. What are they going
to do with McCaffrey, you know, like that whole thing
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is supposed to be the scheme is the star in
the run game, it's and it has been. And this look,
Mason was running the ball pretty damn well without Trent
Williams there, or even a healthy Trent when he did play.
And then this kid, next man up, he'll be fine,
Like so, I I don't know, man, but no, they're
they're done. They're done. Go look at brock Perty's numbers
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at home.
Speaker 2 (28:54):
And maybe the Niners look them up.
Speaker 5 (28:56):
You'll get a kick out of them. Like the idea
that was a young quarterback and he can't play on
the road. No you can't, you can't. You can't play
at home this year. No, they're.
Speaker 1 (29:06):
He's on Twitter at Jason Lock and for that is
at Jason Lock and for Odyssey watching him post one
oh five seven. The fan of Baltimore Jay as always, buddy,
appreciate it. Man, enjoying the rest of the calm Accord
story you're working on. We'll talk to you next week.
There he goes, great stuff from him. I just knew
I could get at least one really great drop the
mic out of the the Aaron Rods.
Speaker 2 (29:28):
No, I know you could, but listen. I'll coming up
in a few minutes. I'll tell you why. Everything's gonna
be fine. Everything's gonna be great. Yeah, Yeah, everything's gonna
be fine.
Speaker 4 (29:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (29:35):
The only question is is go ahead?
Speaker 1 (29:36):
Because people don't understand exactly what is going to happen
following the game yesterday. People don't understand what's going to
happen following this loss to the Seahawks, after the Geno
victorys tour. But first, yeah, we have to find out
what's trending for a man whose first job tonight was
to cover Jerry Judy.
Speaker 2 (29:53):
That didn't go so well.
Speaker 1 (29:55):
So I am telling us what's trending in the wide
world of sports. Instep to saying, well, I feel bit
because the Broncos can't cover him either.
Speaker 2 (30:02):
You know, we are.
Speaker 6 (30:02):
Still early third quarter at this hour in the Monday
night football game at Denver the Broncos are leading twenty
eight to twenty five against Cleveland. Cleveland this season has
allowed twelve different plays of forty yards or more, and
they allowed a ninety three yard touchdown pass bow Knicks
to Marvin Mims early third.
Speaker 1 (30:23):
Wait, now, wait, are you counting all the forty plus
yard plays that Jamis Winston allows for the other team?
Speaker 2 (30:28):
No, you should add that.
Speaker 6 (30:30):
Okay, they're already worse than the league in this category,
but you're right.
Speaker 1 (30:34):
If you add those forty yard plays allowed, I think
that falls into that category.
Speaker 6 (30:37):
We had the pick six of seventy one yards the
other way at the first half of this game, after
the ninety three yard score the long pass from bow
Nicks one offensive play later, the Browns answered Jamis Winston
to Jerry Judy seventy yards in a TV and then
a two point pass to Judy, the former Bronco. So
the lead for Denver is twenty eight to twenty five
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with under nine minutes to go in the third quarter.
Denver seven and five this year. Cleveland three and eight
forty nine Ers running back Christian McCaffrey will miss at
least six weeks with the sprain pcl SO he's likely
out for the season. McCaffrey and running back Jordan Mason
were each placed on injured reserve. Mason has a high
ankle sprain. San Francisco's record is five and seven. Saints
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tight end Taysom Hill suffered a torn acl yesterday and
additional damage to his knee. According to NFL Network, Jacksonville
quarterback Trevor Lawrence is still in concussion protocol as his
Packers wide out Romeo Dobbs, but he returned to limited
practice today. Green Bay Place Thursday at Detroit. A reminder
on Fox TV This Sunday, Buffalo at the La Rams.
(31:43):
Usc quarterback Miller Moss is transferring four NBA games tonight.
They're all final now. Minnesota beat up the Lakers one
oh nine to eighty. Chicago down Brooklyn won twenty eight
to one oh two. Josh Giddy at triple double. Boston
won again, beating Miami easily one oh eight eighty nine.
Celtics records seventeen and four. Atlanta got fifteen assists from
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Trey Young in a comeback win over New Orleans, won
twenty four to one to twelve. The Pelicans have lost
nine in a row. NHL wins for New Jersey and Toronto,
and a Major League Baseball note as a week from now,
the meetings off season meetings will be going on, and
we've got a draft lottery coming up in Major League
Baseball in just over a week. This will determine the
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top six picks next summer. So bad teams from this
past year, like the Rockies and Marlins, had the best
chance to win the MLB lottery. Turns out that clubs
that pay into revenue sharing cannot be in the lottery
in back to back years. So the White Sox, who
had a top five pick last year, are out of
the lottery next week because of that, even though they've
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just lost one hundred and twenty one games. And for
the Oakland A's, they've been in the lottery two straight years.
Can't do it three straight. So teams like the White
Sox and A's who really deserve top ten picks cannot
select higher than number ten.
Speaker 3 (33:03):
We wouldn't get right anyway, Steve, It's.
Speaker 6 (33:06):
Okay, maybe that bears gim you're talking about Kevin's available
next week and see what he can.
Speaker 2 (33:11):
Do for the way.
Speaker 1 (33:12):
Well, Ryan Pole's just gonna sit here and nod you
want to talk about a guy who looked like he'd
rather be anywhere.
Speaker 5 (33:17):
You know.
Speaker 1 (33:17):
It's right around this time is when I wish I
could see teams if they were allowed to trade first
picks in MLB draft, like that would just be awesome,
just to see that. The continued, The extra continued.
Speaker 2 (33:28):
Yeah, the small.
Speaker 6 (33:29):
Teams are bad teams.
Speaker 2 (33:30):
Get that they can trade.
Speaker 1 (33:32):
Yeah, I mean that would just be outstanding. I mean
you can't do it, obviously, since against the rules, but
I would love to see.
Speaker 6 (33:38):
Although I've we won't name the show, I've heard a
show talking about trading baseball draft picks.
Speaker 2 (33:43):
Sure you can't add to that.
Speaker 1 (33:45):
Actually, hey, look, maybe you said maybe Rob Manford doesn't
know that.
Speaker 2 (33:48):
He might not know that rule. Oh there's a lot.
Rob Mayford does sign this piece of paper.
Speaker 1 (33:54):
It's the old trick in a movie, right where you
just came out of a piece of paper.
Speaker 2 (33:58):
They're just playing for a un metal Lena, thank you.
Speaker 1 (34:02):
See The Jason Smith Show with Mike Harmon Live from
the tirec dot Com Studios. Coming up next, a star
starting quarterback in the NFL that if I was the
head coach, I would tell him, you have one chance
this week to save your job.
Speaker 2 (34:16):
And no it's not Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 1 (34:18):
Cool eminem because I said star quarterback all who who
would I tell you have this week to save your job?
Speaker 2 (34:24):
That's coming up next right here, Jason to Mike Fox
Sports Radio. So excited.
Speaker 3 (34:29):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven
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Speaker 2 (34:36):
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Speaker 1 (34:37):
The Jason Smith Show with my best friend Mike Harmon
hobo live from the Tireck dot Com Studios where I
don't think anybody knew the kind of offense we were
going to get from this game tonight. Hit the over
twenty eight to twenty five. Denver leads the Browns four
and a half to go in the third quarter. Suddenly
Jerry Judy, Elijah Moore, they're big weapons. Broncos are going
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up and down the field.
Speaker 2 (35:00):
Who who know?
Speaker 1 (35:01):
It's crazy getting Nick's making plays with his legs, creating space,
cocks shut and running MiGs everywhere. Mix no Player of
the week and now this sure Nicks again. But we'll
have more on this game coming up in a few minutes. Again,
still a long way to go. He are still four
minutes to go with the third quarter. But uh, you know,
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we talked about this a few months ago, and every
few weeks he had done enough to save his job.
But if I'm the head coach of the Atlanta Falcons, right,
if I'm the head coach and it's not Leeman Bennett,
if I'm the head coachestead of him, I tell Kirk Cousins, hey, dude,
you have this week to show us and show me
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that you can still lead this team, or Michael Pennock
Junior is getting the gig. The only reason a change
hasn't been made yet is because the division's terrible and
everybody's five hundred and they're leading the division at six
and six. Right, the division is awful, everybody is mediocre.
The Falcons have the best offensive anybody in the division. Okay,
but he has been Kirk Cousins and the stamp on
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it now. Really good defense yesterday, obviously, but still four picks.
He has been on a bad run. And it's not
like he's been great all year. He had a couple
of times where hey, I had to save my job
with big moments. He's a bridge quarterback, and that's what
people fail to understand this whole season is that no
matter what kind of money you're getting, when you have
Michael Pennick Junior waiting, a guy you traded up for
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to get in the first round of the draft, in
the top ten, he's going to play. You're a bridge
quarterback until they are ready to put him in. And
for everybody that wanted to say, oh, he's got the
whole year, no he doesn't, because if he's bad, if
they falter, they're not gonna wait to put Michael Pennick
Junior in. The only reason they haven't done it yet
is because the division is still there. But I tell him,
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you got one more game, and if not, I'm going
to the rookie. I gotta have some kind of spark
for the last four games. If you can't do it,
we're not gonna sit here and give away this division
lead and kind of meander and hope you get it
in the final few weeks. We know you're gonna be
on a different team next year. The world knows you're
gonna be on a different team next year. But that's
gonna hasten itself. And initially I said maybe week ten,
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week eleven, Now might be week twelve, Week thirteen, Week fourteen,
Week fifteen, with about four games left, That's where I
would go to Michael Pennick Junior and say, Okay, you
know what, we need some kind of spark for the
final month of this season where we're trying to get
in the playoffs and it's doing us no good to
hope that Kirk Cousins is gonna get it at some point. Yeah,
it's the curiosity of what you got for the final
(37:30):
stretcher on here. Obviously Week fourteen, who's the opponent, Tada,
you're back in Minnesota. Maybe you can walk in with
the swagger and the chains in the whole nine yard.
But obviously Brian flor is licking his chops to get
after a guy that can't move in the pocket right
and collapse that thing on him. And then you've got
a date at Las Vegas. There's a big primetime affair
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on a Monday night. Yeah, and then you've got New York,
Washington and Carolina to finish things off. Carolina playing with
some heart tough loss with the Chuba Hubbard fumble and everything.
Washington the offense was reawakened after being dormant for a while,
and the well the Giants are what the Giants are
at this point, Vegas sputtering. Although Aidan O'Connell has everybody
(38:17):
all excited because they watched him on Thanksgiving weekend, they watched.
Speaker 2 (38:20):
Him on Black Friday. That guy could be the guy.
Speaker 1 (38:22):
He's like, all right, he had he had a game, Okay, fine,
but all of that to say, you've got a winnable schedule.
You could at least go two and two, maybe three
and one down the stretch following this game against Minnesota.
Speaker 2 (38:35):
So decision time by what is it?
Speaker 1 (38:37):
Zero touchdown, six picks in his last three air mailing
the football even with all those weapons, just no consistency whatsoever.
You'd think you'd at least be able to establish a
run with b John Robinson and be able to work
off that, and you're not even getting that. It's just
never felt like their offense with all the playmakers, has meshed.
(38:58):
It's just he was upset at the drafting of Michael
Pennick Junior going back to April, and I've just never
felt that the Falcons have gotten passed. He and the
Falcons have gotten past that drafting of him because he's struggling, Yes,
coming back from a big injury in your mid to
late thirties. That's a thing, right, we're seeing with Aaron Rodgers,
that's a thing. Buffy birthday, Yeah, he first birthday of
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your forties. Now there's forty one, but forty it's never
it's never worked to the extent that you would think
it would work with all the weapons that they have
had that five week stretch where they were putting up
points much through people now and then they got figured out.
And Kirk Cousins has been around long enough, it's okay.
If he's playing bad, like you got to think, is
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this the end? Like, is this the end of Kirk Cousins?
Do you want to sit him because you want to
preserve his trade value because you don't want to have
to eat all that money the end of this year.
That's the other part of this is that if he's
not good enough and you sent him to go to
Michael Pennix Junior, he still has whatever trade value he does.
Where if you play him all the way down the
stretch and he stinks for the last ten weeks of
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the season, who's gonna trade for him?
Speaker 2 (40:04):
Said good luck, we don't want him, So.
Speaker 1 (40:06):
You have to do that just to preserve his trade
value because you want to get out from under that
contract after this year. Yeah, I gotta go through and
see where the outs are and buy outs whatever.
Speaker 2 (40:14):
But we've talked about it.
Speaker 1 (40:15):
There's not much of a quarterback market place out there,
and the draft class is fairly shallow. So unless you
want to really go fishing and think you can find
your guy, Captain Kirk's still gonna have a marketing, just
a matter of figuring out the money. And as we
always say, you can figure out the money now, the
Jets will get him now, the Jets get Cousins eight
years later. These years later, he used him for leverage
(40:37):
and tea. Yeah, the out isn't until after the twenty
five seasons. So exit up about a Fresco exit Swelling
down The Jason Smith Show with Mike Carmon live from
the tire rack dot Com Studios.
Speaker 2 (40:47):
Coming up next.
Speaker 1 (40:48):
After one of the biggest moments in the NFL yesterday,
this quarterback may have played his last down with.
Speaker 2 (40:54):
His current team, and it's not Aaron Rodgers That's next.
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