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December 4, 2024 39 mins

Jason and Mike debate if the “Golden at-bat” rule is good or bad for Major League Baseball. Find out why Ohio State is screwed if they decide to move on from Ryan Day. And JJ Redick doesn’t know if it’s in LeBron James interest to play all 82 games.

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the Golden at Bat.

Speaker 2 (00:55):
You're really gonna try to sell us.

Speaker 1 (00:56):
Look, we'll get day you, We'll get to we'll get
to the big, big story out of college football coming
up in a second. Just to continue the conversation we
had a few minutes ago, Rob Manford. This is according
to longtime baseball insider Jason Stark. Rob Manford says there's
a lot of buzz about implementing a golden at bat rule,
which Jason Stark said could happen. They could test it

(01:17):
out as early as this season, where one time in
a game, a team can put any batter on their
team up at any point to face a pitcher. And
this is ostensibly being done so they can create big moments.
The Phillies would want to put Bryce Harper up against
Devin Williams or whatever you want to do. The Mets
would put Francisco Lindoor up, The Yankees would put Judge up.

(01:40):
O'tani obviously looking to cash in on big moments because
there's not enough.

Speaker 2 (01:46):
Of them in Major League Baseball. You see.

Speaker 1 (01:49):
I think what happened is he saw a lot of
the big moments this playoffs, with the big Alonso home run,
the big Lindor home run, the big home run by
Freddie Freeman in the World Series. You know, and this
comes down to Freddie Freeman happen to be batting with
the bases load in the ninth inning.

Speaker 2 (02:03):
You know. It's a and I think says.

Speaker 1 (02:05):
Okay, how do how do we get that sport a
little bit more visibility and create big moments. And it's
not anything unlike basketball trying with this e Cup tournament
going on to try to create better moments and more
interest in the regular season. And I get that and
look at it, and look, Rob Manfford has been a
horrendous commissioner for from Major League Baseball. But at least

(02:26):
I like that he's willing to try things that are
really outside the box. Because for Bud Sealik, it was
years just to say, can we add a wild card team? Dude, dude,
just add more people will come to the games and
be more. Just add one wildcard team. Just do it once? Well,
can you please do it? But all right, I'll do it.
Oh hey, look look how much Now we're adding wild
cards all the time every year.

Speaker 4 (02:48):
So I mean, so hey, more teams have meaningful September games.

Speaker 1 (02:52):
Yeah, so I have to give I have to give
Manford credit. Where these outside the box ideas which are
generally going to be met with negativity unpopularity right away
because baseball peers are gonna say you can't do this.
You have to, like like Billy Bean says in in
in Moneyball when he has a big see McGrady he collaps,
goes adapt.

Speaker 2 (03:11):
Or die, right like like baseball and all.

Speaker 1 (03:13):
Sports need to be able to continually adapt to what
the crowd wants, what people want in twenty twenty four
and beyond with different ways of consuming games and watching
and when they're tuning in and not watching. And if
you can create big moments that people are gonna want
to see, that's a big thing.

Speaker 3 (03:27):
You know.

Speaker 4 (03:28):
You know how they did that years ago and they
all stood by idly. They're like, guys, shoot up whatever
they've ever seen. You know, Eventually, eventually that.

Speaker 1 (03:36):
Eventually, that Good Time Company was going to come to
an end, and it did.

Speaker 2 (03:40):
Has that worked pretty well in baseball? Wow? What do you?
What do you mean?

Speaker 1 (03:46):
Jose Canseco has a book coming out. I don't understand
why is it a big deal? Like what Iskenseko's got
a book? What's again? Oh?

Speaker 2 (03:52):
Oh oh? Jig is up?

Speaker 1 (03:54):
But is I get Manford wanted to do this and
and for all the hate, I could see through this
and seeing the excitement of the ninth inning of a
game that the Dodgers are playing, the Padres trying to
close it out and Otani is not coming up, but
he's allowed to come up. I mean, there is there
is some some stuff you have to go through this
because we talked about it a few minutes ago. What

(04:15):
if the bases are loaded and the ninth batter and
the and the Dodger lineup comes up, and you're gonna
put Otani up there, then he gets to bat again
right at the top of the water right, there's gonna
be yeah, there's gonna be some ways to figure it out.

Speaker 2 (04:27):
But this is this is a good idea.

Speaker 1 (04:30):
This is a way that's gonna bring big moments to
to to Major League Baseball. Look at what the w
NBA did this year with all the Caitlin Clark moments
that became big, high profile things that we paid attention to.
Baseball is trying to evolve and trying to say, how
do we grab a slice of that pie. Because we're
competing with everybody. We're competing with everybody for we're fighting

(04:51):
for every second we're on the air, we're fighting for
every second for continued relevancy and growth of a sport.
And sometimes you have to look outside the box and
and would this be I mean, look, you don't I know,
you don't like the runner at second base, you know,
there's the bigger bases.

Speaker 2 (05:06):
There's all these big things.

Speaker 1 (05:07):
While the pitching mandates right, you can't throw over and
and the you've got to face a minimum number of
batters whatever, it's taken away a lot of that batter
to batter strategy and and gamesmanshipped there.

Speaker 2 (05:19):
White Sox don't make it. There's doesn't mean I don't
still watch everything.

Speaker 1 (05:23):
The White Sox will be allowed to put anybody up
they want to at any time, Carlton fist combat any.

Speaker 2 (05:29):
But with a.

Speaker 1 (05:31):
With all of these changes that have been that have
been invoked in the last three four years, baseball's kind
of doing fun. I don't think people are not watching
the game because the bases are bigger. I don't think
people are not watching the game because people stop watching
the game for reasons other than that. But when your
team stinks for so long, I just can't bear to
watch anymore, people don't want to watch all. Politically, I

(05:53):
disagree with what this person says. People aren't gonna stop
watching because a guy's got to face three battle.

Speaker 4 (06:00):
Shaved a lot of the But again it goes back
to history of the game changing the game whatever, And like,
am I still gonna watch.

Speaker 1 (06:08):
Yeah, I'm still gonna watch, and not just because it's
my job. I still love the game and it's hard.
But just think about that drama of a basis loaded
seventh inning or eighth inning and you can put your
best hitter up.

Speaker 2 (06:18):
I mean that we have been doing it inanely fun.

Speaker 4 (06:20):
See, here's what it has to be though, in my opinion,
if we're gonna do this, you can get me to
come across. But uh, here's where the bridge needs to
be built. Okay, there's got to be a case behind
home plate. Okay, and in there is the case catch
the golden bat. You take the average of what everybody swings.

Speaker 2 (06:38):
Huh. Oh that's the bat.

Speaker 1 (06:39):
You don't get to use your own. Oh you have
to use to use the golden bats. Do you get
to break that glass? You have to break the glass
in case. It's got to be a whole drama filled moment.
Because I always get bayor League Baseball credit and I don't.
I don't think you get enough credit for it because
it's always, oh, they're so slow and moving whatever. They
were the first to get on board streaming and give
you access to your home teams. Now, unfortunately that first

(07:02):
mover advantage only lasted so long. It's like, wait, that works. Yeah,
we're gonna do it. We're gonna do it better.

Speaker 4 (07:07):
And so everybody jumped on board, and NBA and NFL
and everybody else. But for this, Yeah, if if we're
gonna do this golden bat, that's great. It's actually got
to be a golden thing because now I actually hit
on something because again I like this idea because I
can visualize how we're going to see it.

Speaker 2 (07:22):
We're gonna love these great dramatic ad bats at the
end a game. And you have to have an entrance team.
Let me get at player, Are you kidding?

Speaker 1 (07:32):
We're gonna putting door up all the time we were
in the NLCS against you.

Speaker 2 (07:36):
Okay, player, we were in the NLCS. We're fine.

Speaker 1 (07:39):
Is at bat is knock gonna you cheated? You're still crying.
I couldn't figure out how you cheated. I don't know how. Uh,
but just think about this moment for a second. Right
ninth th inting of a Yankee game, and the Yankees
got the bases loaded, all right.

Speaker 2 (07:53):
Maybe they're they're down by a run to.

Speaker 1 (07:55):
The red side, and then strikes no, no, no, but Aaron
Judge isn't coming up, like maybe he's three batters away,
maybe Volpi is coming up. And all of a sudden,
Aaron Boone comes out of the dugout. They play some
burn and he looks up at the crowd. He puts
his arms up like should I do it? And the
crowd starts yelling, and he walks over to the to

(08:16):
the case of the Golden Bat and he points to
it and the crowd goes crazy and he does the
hul Cogan with his hand.

Speaker 2 (08:22):
On his ear. I can't hear you.

Speaker 1 (08:23):
And he points to the thing again and they're going
break it, break it, break.

Speaker 2 (08:28):
It, and then he.

Speaker 5 (08:28):
Shout and he smashes it and pulls out the golden bat.
Everybody goes crazy, and then he walks over to the
dugout and he hands it to Aaron Judge and Aaron
Judge walks up to go hit.

Speaker 2 (08:39):
I mean, just that would be an amazing moment you play,
just with everybody yelling and screaming. See, I'm with you
on that. You know we can build it up then, yeah,
I can get on board it. I like that.

Speaker 1 (08:51):
You know, here's the bat. I can't it's your bat.
It's not you borrowed you. No, no, it's that is
the golden bat for this game. All made did the
same specifigation that's it. He comes out and he said,
and he kneels down and he holds the bat up
like it's a sword in King Arthur's court and he
hands it up and Aaron Judge takes it and knights
Aaron Boone and he walks up to hit with that bat.

(09:11):
Oh now now I'm down. See, I'm even more down
with it than I was five minutes ago.

Speaker 2 (09:15):
Yeah, so we can get it to full chaotic.

Speaker 1 (09:19):
Terms. I can get on board with this. I mean
because there we're going to have the robo umpires have
to show up first.

Speaker 2 (09:25):
But then think about this.

Speaker 1 (09:26):
Yeah, like Aaron Boone goes over to just try to
try to grab right, okay, So so that happens, and
then you know.

Speaker 2 (09:33):
He goes to break it. They're going break it, break.

Speaker 1 (09:35):
It, break it, okay, okay fine, and then somebody from
the other dugout runs and tackles Aaron Boone, so we
can't break it's good and he can't get the well
maybe it's his own teammate because he wants to at bat.
Hey you let you let he judge do it. Last
time he went up there and waved it three pitches
my turn. He's not clutch. Oh seven seven ninety nine,

(09:58):
Vopie tackle Arren Boone.

Speaker 2 (10:00):
He'll be the batter here. The Yankees will lose.

Speaker 1 (10:04):
Big question though, Yeah, what if you're the Mets and
you don't have the best.

Speaker 2 (10:07):
But do you said that? Like two minutes ago, everybody
got it.

Speaker 1 (10:10):
They laughed and they're still laughing Let's move on, dude,
you talk about the Mets like we didn't make the NLCS.
I could be what if you said that like you did,
if you said Jets or Syracuse basketball.

Speaker 2 (10:23):
I don't get it. I get it, I get it.
I get it. Say it with a question mark at
the area.

Speaker 1 (10:27):
We're terrific. Maybe listen next year when when we beat
you at the NLCS and you have a billion dollar
payroll and we're sitting here, you know, trying it o
my money, trying to eke it out right at three
hundred and fifty million, and we beat you in the
in the making the World Series.

Speaker 2 (10:42):
Okay, we'll see not my money.

Speaker 1 (10:43):
Yeah, when Blake Snell trots off the mound so mad,
going I can't win.

Speaker 2 (10:48):
I can't win no matter where I go. Can we stay?
Stay with that for a second here?

Speaker 4 (10:51):
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getting from the national TV deal.

Speaker 2 (11:11):
Okay, I just feel it.

Speaker 1 (11:13):
You don't like what they're they're doing, the go and
figure out a way to match them or beat them.

Speaker 2 (11:18):
Just shut up.

Speaker 1 (11:19):
Well, I feel like this the Dodgers just doing this.
So at the when Otani retires.

Speaker 2 (11:24):
This ownership group is going to sell the team. We're
getting out.

Speaker 1 (11:27):
We don't want to pay this billion dollars salary. You're
training on the money you're making on them. Right now, again,
we talk about all the sponsorship.

Speaker 4 (11:35):
Look what it's done for AM five seventy here locally
right where you've got Green Teas and all these different
restaurants and international businesses that are on board Dodgers Stadium,
all the signage all of that, all the tourists that
make Dodger tours and everything part of their experience if
they come to Los Angeles.

Speaker 2 (11:55):
Yeah, they're printing money, so what are they doing.

Speaker 1 (11:57):
They're investing it and earning interest on it now before
that bill even comes due, so they can decide, Hey,
we've already made all the money on Otani and now
we have to pay him.

Speaker 2 (12:06):
We're gonna sell the team. You want to buy it? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (12:08):
Yeah, yeah, anything I need to know, no, no, just
straight by the team. Just you know the salaries of
the players, like normal. No, anything I need to know
about the salaries anything? No, No, it's our debt special No, no, no,
it's fine. Well you know Tani is retiring now, right
yeah yeah yeah yeah, so so I don't be I
don't have to pay a toni salary.

Speaker 2 (12:26):
Uh sort of sort of. You won't have to pay.

Speaker 1 (12:28):
Him to play for you anymore. Oh yeah yeah, great, great, great,
I'll sign up for that. Great, that's what I want
right now, that's what I'll buy that team. Okay, you're
gonna be whoever buys the gonna be billions of dollars.

Speaker 2 (12:39):
A debt when they buy them.

Speaker 4 (12:41):
You are, but as Frostburg very appropriately said not my money.
So anybody that wants to do the finger wagging. Look,
I got a team that's always the mystery team. They
spend no money and they suck, you know what. I
love them just the same, but I recognize the game
that they're playing, which.

Speaker 1 (12:59):
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Speaker 2 (13:07):
Golden at Bat. My god, he's gonna use it, Jason. Yeah,
but what if you're the Mats and you don't have
about justin What if I.

Speaker 1 (13:19):
Keep both sides of your car tonight and give you
racing stripes? Look great, you'll be in jail. You actually
go to jail for keing a car. Don't think you
do that.

Speaker 2 (13:27):
You definitely get off of mynd. I don't know, Oh, Mary,
Matt can You can't. How do you know that because
it's kind of common sense. Oh, I've never done it,
but you can? Oh you sure about that? I'm pretty sure?
All right? Uh.

Speaker 1 (13:41):
Coming up next, we get back into the biggest takeaways
from the latest college football playoff pol as we get
set for one more week until the playoff is ready
to go. That's next right here, Jason and Mike Fox.

Speaker 3 (13:54):
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The Jason Smith Show with my best friend Mike Harmon
Live from the tirag dot com studios. The next to
last college football playoff Pollo is out. There's all kinds
of drama. Alabama ahead of Miami who is out? But
just to show you the lasting power of what a
rivalry is, this gets into a big conversation surrounding this.

(14:34):
After this weekend, Ohio State is still safely in the
playoff at number six. Everything is fine, They're not going.
Everything is fine, go to the playoff. Everything is okay,
except it's not. This is now late Tuesday into Wednesday,
and already we are still talking about the fallout from

(14:57):
this Michigan win over Ohio State. Michigan was having an
ass season up until Saturday and now it's a great season. Yeah,
but it was a big jumping off point, didn't he
hit a broadcast that win over Northwestern.

Speaker 2 (15:10):
Unlocked in the world.

Speaker 1 (15:11):
They're gonna be lucky to go to the pop tartan
bolometer whatever game they go.

Speaker 2 (15:16):
But it doesn't matter.

Speaker 4 (15:19):
Tart mascot going to show up again. Yes, and he
pops out of the yeah scene.

Speaker 1 (15:24):
He's superior to all the other I mean, non playoff
bowl game. That's where Michigan is going to the turns
by there and it's a successful season because they've won
seven games. They flipped Bryce under what is their quarterback
and they beat Ohio State Ohanman.

Speaker 2 (15:38):
They fired their o C today Ohio.

Speaker 1 (15:40):
State could win the national title and fans are gonna say,
doesn't feel right we lost to Michigan. That that for
First of all, this shows you this is the best
rivalry in all of sports, because there's no other rivalry
where where fortunes flip like this on a on a
dime from one team to another, the way the storyline
can use on four or.

Speaker 2 (16:01):
Five days after the game is over. This is the
best route.

Speaker 1 (16:03):
Regardless of record, there is still stakes that are incredibly
high every single time these two teams play. But Ohio
State it's like it's like yeah, it doesn't matter if
we win the national title, doesn't matter we lost to Michigan.

Speaker 2 (16:16):
But that's how they feel.

Speaker 1 (16:17):
But what I love is for that game, that and
for the weekend as a whole. Right, as much as
people can promoone the flag planting whatever else, put that
aside for a moment. That the fact that there's still
so much juice into each of these rivalry games, you know,
regardless of where they were ranking wise, right, you just
watch these matchups like Northwestern's playing Illinois. Now, is that

(16:41):
a matchup the Nations cares about? No, But you can
watch it in between the White Lions that every play,
every yard, every you know, fight through a tackle, whatever,
Like you could see more effort being exerted in those
sixty minutes than you would have gotten in a game
against another random Big Ten opponent.

Speaker 4 (17:00):
And go on down the line, think of your favorite
college team. And then for Michigan to pull that off
and to play bully ball. Now we talk about the
two chip shot field goals, talk about what they couldn't
do offensively Ohio State, but for Michigan with no quarterback, right,
and they came in with no quarterback, which is.

Speaker 1 (17:17):
Again and your best defensive player and your best offensive
player weren't playing.

Speaker 2 (17:22):
That's right, are not playing.

Speaker 4 (17:23):
So all of that to say that you still are
able to go out and now gain them by one
hundred yards on the ground, exert your will make Lou
Holtz look that much smarter about his thought of the
way Ryan Day build squad.

Speaker 2 (17:36):
Like all of that that that.

Speaker 4 (17:38):
Carried so much weight on that game and nationwide every
time they did a cutaway. Tell me, tell me, folks
weren't a little bit excited as much as they might
have hated Michigan the last couple of years. Yeah, like
they like that it's now being here's one hundred million dog.

Speaker 1 (17:55):
Yeah, but here's Chip Kelly, here's all the things you
did to try to build the perfect East and at
least for one day you got beat. Now you still
get to go play for bigger stakes. But does that stick?
No Ryan for Ryan Day? Like how much? How much
are they still dealing with the fallout and answering questions
from boosters like I need to talk to coach look

(18:16):
and and look, I'm gonna I'm gonna bury Ryan Day
before I save him here because you know, so much
is made because let's get to really at the heart
of this game, and then we'll get to why why
Ryan Day really is getting too much criticism. Number One,
did Ryan they have a great game coaching? No, And
I get that the fall back on whichever team runs

(18:36):
the football for more yards wins the game. And Michigan
ran for one hundred more yards in Ohio State and
they won.

Speaker 2 (18:41):
Yeah, I get it.

Speaker 1 (18:42):
Ohio State needed to throw the football, and I don't
know what they were doing continuing to run the football
in the middle of the line, trying to make their
running game happen.

Speaker 2 (18:50):
I get they wanted to run the football.

Speaker 1 (18:52):
But when did Ohio State have Michigan on roller skates
when they were throwing the football up and down the field? Right,
Michigan Ohio State's wide receiver. It's like every year of
high states wide receivers graduate from Ohiose State and they're
in the NFL and their stars. Right, you had Michigan
on roller skates. But for some reason you felt because
Will Howard turned the ball over twice, you couldn't trust him,
So now we have to run the football. Yeah, you

(19:14):
made mistakes, but you have to keep going with what's
gonna win this game? What was gonna win that game.
Was throwing the football up and down the field. Why
they decided they're playing in the Michigan's hands. They could
have scored two more touches. You could have had Will
Howard still with a bad game, two turnovers, the missfield goals,
you should have at least two more touchdowns, should have
won that game twenty four thirteen, twenty four to sixteen,
something like that. But they decide, with everything they have there,

(19:37):
we're gonna go back and we're gonna play Michigan's game.
And that was a really bad mistake by Ryan Day,
and that if you want to criticize, absolutely that's what
I thought. I said, Wow, he's absolutely playing into Michigan's hands.
He needs to be a better big game day coach
in this type of situation. Now, the flip side of
it is already wants to fire Ryan Day. Right everywhere
you're seeing what Paul finebound pack your bags are seeing

(20:00):
analyst and does get rid of the guy? Get rid
of the guy. I just want to say this, because
we've talked about this before. Who are you gonna get?

Speaker 2 (20:06):
No, that's it.

Speaker 1 (20:06):
Who are you gonna get who that's gonna come in
and better sixty six and ten and split or win
two out of every three against Michigan. Tell me who
that guy is, because Ryan Day has won a lot, man,
he is what a lot at Ohio State. He's gotten
to the playoff. Yes, he's lost to Michigan, for I get,
I understand how big a deal that is. But sometimes

(20:29):
you don't realize how good you have it. And Ohio
State coming off a run where Trestle beat Michigan almost
every year and Urban Meyer beat Michigan almost every year,
they thought, Okay, we're just gonna beat that. This is
not really we're just gonna beat them every single year. Okay,
you don't always win like that, but because you're used
to that for the part of two decades, Ryan Day
seems like a failure. Now Ryan Day is not John Cooper.

(20:51):
Ryan Day's not a guy winning eight nine games a year.
Ryan Day is going eleven and one, ten and two
into the college football playoff. That's what you're playing beating Michigan. Yes,
that's a huge goal. Yes, we're about that. Pre sixty five.
You want to get to the playoff and win to
make money for your school. That's what you want. Ryan
Day got you there, you're there, You are the number
six seed most likely will be in the College Football Playoff,

(21:14):
you were talented enough to win the championship. Who are
you gonna bring in? If there was somebody out there,
I would say, I agree, urban my agree, I would agree.
If there was somebody else out there that you could say, Yes,
this person coming in is gonna have a better record
than Ryan Day during the season and they're gonna beat
Michigan two out of every three games. Okay, that guy
doesn't exist, they don't have that guy.

Speaker 4 (21:35):
Well, but we're doing it on the pro level right now,
where we try to fire guys year after year.

Speaker 2 (21:40):
Now, it's one thing.

Speaker 4 (21:41):
We've had the conversation with Tomlin and we're seeing the
magic that that's going on in Pittsburgh this year. How
much you believe they're actually gonna get over come January.
Still a lot to talk about as related to that.

Speaker 2 (21:53):
But like up in San.

Speaker 4 (21:54):
Francisco, maybe it's Sam and I think it's people trying
to talk him into it.

Speaker 2 (21:58):
Yeah, he'll go coach the Bears. Situation that I'm like, I.

Speaker 4 (22:01):
Want to read your CV and see how many ties
to Chicago media you have when you're floating that out.
It's like, maybe it's time for the forty nine ers
in Shanahan to like again, Wait, why he didn't he
didn't break these guys like he walked through practices and
took kendo sticks to the back of these guys' legs
to send them to.

Speaker 2 (22:20):
The I R. Man. He just keeps hitting guys with it.

Speaker 1 (22:25):
I'm sorry I watched War Games WWE, but that was
the latest. We'll bring it back to kendo sticks from
years ago because they have some recoil so they don't
do as much damage.

Speaker 2 (22:36):
But all of that to say, who are you going
out to find? That's better?

Speaker 1 (22:41):
And it's the excitement of shiny new toy, right, all right,
we got a new quarterback. Is it gonna be any good?

Speaker 4 (22:46):
Don't know, but we hated the last guy, right, It's
why the backup quarterback is always so popular. Or when
someone ascends from a offensive or defensive coordinator.

Speaker 2 (22:56):
Wait, I am making it about Chicago or no.

Speaker 1 (22:58):
All of that to say, with Ryan Day, what in
the coaching world right now, do you of any known quantity.
Doesn't mean there's not some super genius waiting in the
wing somewhere, But if you were to go through the
usual suspects and try to say, all right, this is
how you fix this, this is how you push it forward.
They'll be tougher and ready for this game, like, okay,

(23:20):
the Michigan is.

Speaker 2 (23:21):
The outlier to the season.

Speaker 4 (23:23):
Rivalry games, strange things happen, You fall into some bad patterns.
Whatever your field goal kicker misses, you know, college kickers
miss two field goals. All of that to say, he
gave up thirteen points, man, and you're still going to
the playoffs.

Speaker 2 (23:39):
Look, it's a case of.

Speaker 1 (23:43):
Looking at the landscape and realizing that, oh, maybe that's
a door best left close. Because three years ago you
would have said, oh, whatever it is, to go get
Lincoln Riley, whatever it is, go get it. Look at
this guy, Heisman Trophy winner after Heisman Trophy winner, and
now usc they're knocking on Will Federal's door, going, dude,
you got one hundred million dollars to buy this guy out.

(24:03):
We really got to get rid of this guy, right,
LSU and Brian Kelly, Hey, well hey hey.

Speaker 2 (24:07):
Eddie, Oh you want to come back, man, come on Eddie,
Oh Eddie. America's Interimview.

Speaker 1 (24:12):
These are all play these are all These are coaches
that are so sought after, and these were guys that
had great resumes.

Speaker 2 (24:18):
There's nobody out there with that kind of resume now.

Speaker 1 (24:20):
And and understand that that when you when you try
to reach her that top one tenth of one percent,
you're most likely going to give up what you have right,
understand that that if you decide to make a move
with a head coach, maybe the next guy coming in,
because there's so little room for error for for for
a guy like Ryan Day, it's like okay for whoever's

(24:42):
coming in, Okay, So I gotta win more than Ryan
Day dud. So I gotta win more than he did
during the regular season, which is sixty six and ten,
and I gotta beat Michigan two out of three.

Speaker 2 (24:51):
And if I don't, I'm a failure.

Speaker 1 (24:54):
So now, when you talk about how tough it is
to find somebody who's gonna want to come in for that,
who's gonna want to come into sign up and say
I want to go be the coach at Ohio State
when the parameters for success are wildly irrational, guys like
Chip Kelly who are like, I'm never gonna get another
job again.

Speaker 2 (25:10):
Hey, I'll take this gig. Why not. No one else
is gonna hire me. You're gonna have to.

Speaker 1 (25:14):
Hire a retread or someone who you have to take
a chance on that. Maybe it works, maybe it doesn't.
But realize that you have it really, really good right now. Yes,
the lost to Michigan stings and it stinks and you
have to wonder are we ever gonna beat him again?

Speaker 2 (25:26):
What's gonna happen? But this is how rivalries go.

Speaker 1 (25:29):
But get that, while it's an incredibly large part, how
upset would the fan base be if they went one
in ten but they beat Michigan every year? They would
still be why are we one in ten? Why are
we one and eleven? Yeah, we beat Michigan, but we're
one and eleven. So understand that the real goal is, yes,
you want it, Michigan is that is the goal.

Speaker 2 (25:46):
You gotta win that game.

Speaker 1 (25:47):
But you got to realize that college football is a
big business and it's a big thing. To stay as
relevant as you can be when you can make the
playoffs and make a lot of money, you gotta understand
that's what college football is. And when you have a
coach that's routine getting you there. Okay, that's the guy
you stick with it, but just go back to conversations
you and I had now in vogue because he's getting

(26:08):
it done with the Chargers and did the last couple
of years at Michigan. Remember when everybody was doing big
thought pieces about how Jim Harbaugh couldn't coach at Michigan
and couldn't get them over as if they were a
perennial national title winner. Right, Like, you got to recognize
what you are, who you are and what you have,
right and if you're winning consistently nine to ten, okay,

(26:30):
the occasional eight win season, whatever, but how much better
can it be? You're in the national talk, you're beating
Ohio State and then yeah, you had this run and
whatever controversy falls out, and well, history might have some
more details about everything that went on, as you see
in parallel all the other accusations that maybe get brought

(26:53):
to bear from other teams of how they were utilizing
similar systems or whatever more advanced, which is why it
only became about Michigan.

Speaker 4 (27:00):
But all of that to say that if you would
listen to the mob mentality, you would have fired Jim
Harbaugh before you had that run, right you would you
wouldn't have never, you would not had the last three
years of dominance leading into what more did this year
and how they didn't have a quarterback.

Speaker 2 (27:20):
Look, we've talked about that a ton.

Speaker 4 (27:21):
In the end, they get over on Ohio State once again,
which sends the world spiraling. But remember what you're playing
for as important as the Ohio State game has. Never
want to denigrate rivalry games, No, no, no, but that
nobody's giving you a giant ass trophy. I've lived this
rivalry now for thirty years. Right, so I think I

(27:43):
know a thing or two about Michigan Ohio State. But
but but people they get irrational with what they think
is acceptable. And I get the emotion about losing, and
how mad you are you think Michigan was pissed as
hell losing twenty years in a row. No matter who
the hell they had, that trestle would put teams out
there that were, hey, either we're great or not, it
doesn't matter, we're gonna.

Speaker 2 (28:03):
Win the same thing with Urban Meyer. Look it happens
that way.

Speaker 1 (28:06):
And if Ohio State could have converted two field goals
two short field goals under forty yards, maybe that happens.

Speaker 2 (28:12):
Right.

Speaker 1 (28:12):
Ryan Day's not out there. He didn't grab the ball
out of his hands like he's Lucy. So understand that
that I get. I get the anger. But if there's
nobody out there that you that can guarantee or that
you're comfortable with saying this is a guy that A
wants that challenge of some incredibly high standards A live
up to that are impossible?

Speaker 2 (28:31):
But b who is that guy? Who's that guy?

Speaker 1 (28:34):
You know what it is laughable though, is that Ryan
days buyout is approximately one half that of Lincoln Riley?

Speaker 2 (28:40):
Who the hell would you rather have as your head coach?
Riddle me that batman winning games, winning game?

Speaker 1 (28:45):
I mean, I get it, I understand it, but just
realize that the bigger picture, you're gonna lose more. There's
a better chance you're gonna lose way more than you're
gonna gain that top one tenth of one?

Speaker 2 (28:56):
Will I beat Michigan?

Speaker 1 (28:58):
If you go one and eleven to beat Michigan, are
gonna be no matter what they say, no one's gonna
be happy, right Because what was that big Barry Switzer
line when he was getting hired as a head coach Oklahoma?
They said to it, Someone said to him, Hey, Listen,
you can go two and nine and beat Nebraska in
Texas and you might be able to keep your job.
You can go nine and two, lose those two games
and you'll get fired. But if you go eleven and

(29:19):
zero and beat and beat Nebraska in Texas, you could
walk on the campus smoking dope and nobody's gonna care.

Speaker 2 (29:25):
Like, like, I won't get that dope, I says dope.
I understand.

Speaker 1 (29:30):
And well that was the line that the Barry Switzer
will always say, really, but I get it.

Speaker 2 (29:34):
Yeah, Oh, you would say, yeah, that's what they say
for us.

Speaker 1 (29:37):
That was like twenty five years ago in a book
that he wrote, like he said, like, I think the line,
hey man, there's a line in handsOn about smoking dope.

Speaker 2 (29:46):
Got a good thing.

Speaker 1 (29:47):
Right now to a guy, Well, you know what, I'm
just gonna say, let's go to Steve de Seger and
find out what's trending in the wide world of sports.

Speaker 6 (29:54):
You did say Barry Switzer and dope in the same
sentence there in some Super Bowl champion.

Speaker 2 (29:59):
Barr Yeah, okay, sure, title winner.

Speaker 6 (30:02):
Also the reason Troygman retired, Well we'll get to.

Speaker 1 (30:04):
College football in law and he won a Super Bowl
with Jerry Jones as his owner.

Speaker 2 (30:10):
Think about the odds he overcame to do that. Well,
we didn't know at the time.

Speaker 6 (30:14):
In the late game at the NHL, I must mention
that Vegas at home just won a one nothing game
over Edmonton. In NHL history, to have a game with
one goal or fewer and there were no penalties hadn't
been done since nineteen forty four.

Speaker 2 (30:29):
No penalties, no penalties for Vegas.

Speaker 6 (30:32):
Tonight, Colorado the opposite of a boring game, down four
nothing early one, five to four at Buffalo. And yes,
we had the new college football playoff rankings tonight. Oregon
is still number one, Texas now number two. Penn State
is number three, Notre Dame four. It cannot be a
conference champion, it is independent, so it will be playing

(30:52):
a first round game at home. It seems SMU is
number eight, number ten ranked. Boise State could get a
first round by because currently it is ranked higher than
any Big twelve conference team. Arizona State is number fifteen.
We will have Boise State hosting UNLV a Top twenty
matchup on Fox TV this Friday in the Mountain West
Championship game Friday, eight pm Eastern time, as far as

(31:13):
Ohio state. The Buckeyes fell to number six. Alabama is
number eleven. Miami's down to number twelve, so Bama could
be the last team in while the Kynes just might
be missing the College football Playoff. The final bracket will
be announced this Sunday and the bowl matchups. Michigan fired
offensive coordinator Kirk Campbell. Houston Texans linebacker as He's al

(31:34):
Shire was suspended three games for the illegal hit on
Jacksonville QB Trevor Lawrence and the fights afterwards. Eagles tight
end Dallas Garters week to week with a knee injury.
He's not expected to play this weekend. According to NFL Network,
the Red Sox are signing reliever Eraaldus Chapman. US women's
soccer won two to one at the Netherlands in its
final exhibition of the year in late night NBA Action

(31:56):
three minutes to go in La, Clippers up big on
Portland one twenty two to nine ninety eight. Sacramento and
Phoenix picked up home wins, and so did Denver. The
Nuggets edge Golden State one nineteen one fifteen Nicola Jokic
thirty eight points. The Warriors have lost five straight, Dallas
won its fifth in a row, thirty seven points for
Luka Doncicch in a win over Memphis one twenty one

(32:16):
one sixteen that ends the Grizzlies six game winning streak
and an upset. In men's college basketball late night Clemson
over number four Kentucky seventy to sixty six, and guys
in women's hoops at number six usc tonight superstar Jujui
Watkins with forty points in a lopsided win over winless
cal Baptist and at number twenty Iowa State in women's basketball,

(32:37):
Cyclones ninety two to thirty five over South Carolina Upstate,
which finished with fifteen field goals made and thirty turnovers.

Speaker 1 (32:45):
Back to you, wait, the name of the team was
South Carolina Upstate.

Speaker 6 (32:50):
Yes, used to be Spartanburg. Okay, so people don't like
that it's.

Speaker 2 (32:54):
In New York. Oh yeah, okay, I just want to
make it, okay, very good.

Speaker 1 (32:57):
It's the Upstate. We just you know, we're gonna put
that in the name. We're gonna put it in. It's
going to be isn't that one of the rules.

Speaker 2 (33:01):
Yeah, but Spartanburg sounds so much better. Yeah, I'm on State. Hey,
you know that upstate school. Oh yeah, yeah, okay, Greg,
we're upstate kind of like.

Speaker 6 (33:09):
Count Louisiana and Lafayette, and they just become Louisiana.

Speaker 3 (33:12):
Just forget.

Speaker 6 (33:12):
Yeah, we are in Louisiana.

Speaker 2 (33:15):
We're the one. We sound so much better than Louisiana. Lafayette,
thank you, not Fayette.

Speaker 1 (33:20):
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Speaker 2 (33:27):
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Speaker 3 (33:32):
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Speaker 2 (33:40):
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Speaker 1 (33:41):
The Jason Smith Show with my best friend Mike Harmon
Live from the tire rag dot com Studios. We have
more in the fallout from the next to last college
football playoff poll coming up in about ten minutes. I
want to recount, but, uh, you know this story today
about the Lakers and Lebron James.

Speaker 2 (33:57):
I looked at and I said, is this an onion story? Like? Really,
they onion still exists? This is a goal.

Speaker 1 (34:03):
Uh, yeah, yeah, yeah, they just did something onion. Oh
they bought info Wars right now, that's okay.

Speaker 4 (34:09):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (34:09):
So Lebron's in the midst of one of the worst
four five game shooting slumps of his career, right has
it a three? He looks terrible, He says, I just
got to keep working. It's just it's a bad run
for him. And today JJ Reddick, head coach of the Lakers,
talked about how, yeah, the goal that Lebron had of
playing in all eighty two games, we may have to

(34:30):
look back at that again. Don't want to burn him out,
get him too tired. And when I saw this today,
I said, this is this is a real story, like
they really they really were okay, And Lebron's I want
to play in all eighty two games, like like they
were okay with this, Like this is a real goal,
like a guy that gets hurt every year, that needs
to be playing at his best to hit the playoffs.

(34:52):
Because hey, when you're forty years old, as we've seen
you slow down near the end, you can't dominate games
like you like you did and like you used to.

Speaker 2 (34:59):
We see every year older.

Speaker 1 (35:01):
Players in the NBA players, but the time you get
to the conference finals, NBA Finals, they.

Speaker 2 (35:05):
Are worn down and done. This was a real thing.

Speaker 1 (35:08):
Lebron wanted to play it all and the Lakers were, Hey,
we're okay with you wanting to play in all eighty
two games.

Speaker 2 (35:13):
That's a real story. Ten points, four of sixteen last night.

Speaker 4 (35:16):
In a uh blowout loss to the t Wolves one
to nine eighty your final.

Speaker 2 (35:22):
Berry the lead, Mike. It was almost a triple double.
It was. It was fourteen turnovers. So what quote.

Speaker 4 (35:27):
I don't know that it's in the best interest of
him and us if he does that, But if he's
feeling well and feeling good, then he should play, said
Reddick after that game.

Speaker 2 (35:36):
Quote.

Speaker 4 (35:36):
But obviously we want to manage as best we can.
And that's the thing we've talked about a lot. Is
even before this recent run of tired legs, lazy ass defense.

Speaker 2 (35:49):
I mean, you got call for what it is.

Speaker 4 (35:51):
I mean, he's doing the all right, I'm gonna kind
of run back on defense if the play develops, but
if they try to move the ball within the first
ten seconds of a shot, I'm not even past half court.

Speaker 2 (36:01):
It's like all of that. But we were watching him
play thirty seven thirty.

Speaker 4 (36:05):
Eight minutes a night in all these games, heavy minutes
and talking about you know, we make the comparisons to
what your nicks are doing.

Speaker 1 (36:12):
Yeah, those guys are all ten years younger than he is.
They don't have all the years of added games of
playoff action that Lebron James does. So like, I like
the idea, Hey, you want to play in all eighty
two Fine, if you're playing fifteen minutes a night as
the sixth man, but doing what he's doing, no chance
in hell, I mean, this is this, This idea is

(36:32):
just stupid from the jump.

Speaker 2 (36:34):
It's just stupid from the from the jump.

Speaker 1 (36:36):
Yes, you want to make sure he is healthy at
the end of the season. You don't want to goy, Hey,
I want to play in all eighty two games. And
maybe that's not the best thing, all right, he's never
been close to playing eighty two games for like the
last eight years. Hey, that's a goal, but we'll see.
So it's something I ain't discussing one of two things.
Either he's crazy and the Lakers are crazy for indulging him,

(36:58):
or Lebron's previous injury have been a little suspect.

Speaker 2 (37:01):
And oh maybe I could have played. One of those
two things is true.

Speaker 1 (37:05):
Management one of those two things is true, because why
do you think suddenly you can play in when you
haven't done it since like twenty fifteen, And it's not
that shouldn't be a goal playing all eighty two games
for all this load management and time the players need off.
We understand when you're an older team, because you can't
get away from that, no matter how good you look,
no matter how good a guy like Steph Curry looks

(37:25):
right now, no matter how good a guy like Kevin
and Kevin Durant left the game today he was injured.
But no matter how good older superstars and I mean
guys in there in their early to mid thirties to
late thirties to forty in Lebron's case, no matter how
well they play, they are diminished at the end of
the year. You want to just keep that gas tank
as close to full as you can. It's never gonna
be full. For younger players, it can be full all

(37:46):
the way through. Right you're twenty five years old, it
can be full all the way through. But when you're
that old, it's never gonna be full. You just want
Lebron playing at maybe three quarters or eighty five percent.
Don't play at thirty percent, which I don't understand the
whole how well this eighty two game thing was a
goal to begin with it.

Speaker 2 (38:02):
That's just dumb. Yeah, you're a recovery bar.

Speaker 4 (38:04):
I mean, you're not playing a video game where you're
just gonna find the random icon that's gonna put you
back to full stry.

Speaker 2 (38:09):
Find the health icon there is, just click on it
and now you're health.

Speaker 1 (38:13):
I had that the white spart there with it looks
like the First Aid kit.

Speaker 2 (38:18):
Go click on that. How much powered? I oh, no,
I'm down to twenty percent. No, that's say it. I'm done.

Speaker 4 (38:23):
No, the young guys quicker recovery period. We'll keep it there,
keep it clean. Is that they're gonna be able to
get back on the court. Give you another thirty five
forty minutes if they need to. With Lebron you've watched it. Hell,
you've watched it with the Warriors to a degree, right, Stephanie.
The Warriors get chased down by the Nuggets. Nuggets have
their number going back a couple of years at this point.

(38:44):
No Draymond in this one. But all that to say,
you can't play thirty five to forty minutes a night
and think it's not gonna catch up. And we've watched
Lebron tired legs. I mean, who hasn't seen the airball
three point shot seen around the world, or that sequence
where he looked like Philip Seymour Hoffman from a long game, Poby.

Speaker 1 (39:03):
Rain Man, I mean rain When I saw today and
I saw Reddick timing, I said, oh no, this was
a real thing.

Speaker 2 (39:10):
We were gonna really try to see different goals and
then sometimes you have to reevaluate every.

Speaker 1 (39:16):
Time the Lakers take steps forward. No, no, no, We're
gonna take sure we take a couple of steps back.
Remind you we can still do that. You know, MC
and mix it so much better than the Lakers. Come on,
you would trade rosters sight unseen, Well, I mean you
know most of the rosters.

Speaker 2 (39:31):
You would trade everybody everybody. Oh not at this point.
Maybe a couple of years ago I would have. Yeah,
but you could say you had Aaron Rodgers not working.
It's not working anymore. Does that mean I'm not able
to throw the ball downfield?

Speaker 1 (39:42):
I'm gonna be skittish in the pocket, maybe exit out
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