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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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(01:00):
exactly what happened earlier today. Now coming up on Friday
is going to be the debut of the thirty for
thirty ESPN on the New York Sack Exchange. The Jets
defensive line in the early eighties at Wrecked Havoc across
the NFL, and of course, the big star of this
was Mark Gastineau, who set a record for most sacks
in a season, a record that stood for over twenty

(01:22):
years until Brett fav and Michael Strahan decided to play
a little bit, Oh you need one more sack, I'll
let you have it. A very much debated play from
the two thousand and two season where Michael Strahan needed
one sack to break Mark Gastino's all time record. Gastino
was at the game there to see if Strahan could
get it, and late in what was a Packers thirty

(01:43):
four to twenty five win, there was a play in
which it looked like the Packers had set it up
for Strayhan to get a sack. There was about two
minutes left in the game, the Packers were winning, and
Strayhan gets the sack. Brett Faarv takes the snap, he
kind of rolls a little bit to the right and
he falls down with Michael Strahan running in front of him.

(02:04):
This is something that we've known about and the Strayhan
sack record has been debated since that happened. TJ Watt
obviously tied it, you know, not too long ago. But
Strahan then had the record for about twenty years. Okay,
but now in advance of the thirty for thirty on Friday,
this bit was advanced, was was released in advance. Apparently

(02:24):
last year Brett Farv was doing a signature show. He
was signing autographs and Mark Gastino, who was miked up
for this. Whether it's the thirty for thirty and you
know he was miked up for this. He is very
upset and has been upset at Brett Farv for giving
away Mark aseno sack record.

Speaker 2 (02:42):
Was that the event where he stole all the money
from the public people.

Speaker 4 (02:45):
Uh No, that was a different event. Alleg it was
a different event.

Speaker 5 (02:49):
Yeah, chronicle all the NFL legends that are going after
him as part of this process.

Speaker 4 (02:54):
There were no text messages about.

Speaker 2 (02:56):
You just making sure a different event. Okay, got it.

Speaker 1 (02:58):
Yeah, So Gas and know who been mad for twenty
years about this, is miked up and he goes to
confront Farv, who's signing autographs, and this is him approaching Farv.
There's a couple of guys there who are kind of
doing security for far with this event. But Farv sees
Mark Gastineau and Mark Gastno comes to talk to him,
so they have this exchange. This is what you're gonna
see on Friday night on the thirty for thirty.

Speaker 6 (03:20):
Now, you tell me a long time ago at least
I saw you right. How you doing when you fell
down for him? I'm gonna get my sack bag. I'm
gonna get my sack bag. Dude, you probably would hurt me. Well,
I don't care.

Speaker 4 (03:34):
You hurt me. You hurt me.

Speaker 2 (03:38):
You hear me, Yeah, I hear you really hurt me.

Speaker 4 (03:42):
You hurt me. Brett. We got to get back to this.

Speaker 3 (03:44):
Breta'm sorry.

Speaker 1 (03:47):
And then Brett Favre goes back to sign autographs and
it hurt me.

Speaker 4 (03:50):
Brett ends bread he hurt me.

Speaker 1 (03:53):
Bren You know you can see that Brett Farv is
just standing there.

Speaker 4 (03:57):
Going what is happening?

Speaker 1 (03:58):
I'm just gonna be as nice as possible because I
have no idea what's gonna happen.

Speaker 5 (04:03):
This guy's about to take me out. He was waiting
for the bushes, like, what the hell is happening here? Well,
I got a bunch of helmets and footballs to sign
and I'm being accosted.

Speaker 4 (04:14):
Back what the hell is this?

Speaker 1 (04:15):
And I guarantee you because Gas too says I'm gonna
get my sack back, meaning he wants his sack back
to so he has the record and Farmers thinking, oh,
he's gonna get it back like by tackle, like hitting me.

Speaker 4 (04:27):
Now that's why he says, I think you'd hurt me.

Speaker 1 (04:30):
I don't know what's and you know, farmers, farmers like
tapping his foot going, guys, guys jump in here any.

Speaker 4 (04:36):
Any time he got any time, any time, any time.

Speaker 5 (04:39):
So whenever they do these card shows for you know,
just to pull pull the literal curtain back is you
have the front facing side right, everybody's standing in line
with their helmet, football, jersey, whatever they're getting signed. And
then he got the backstage area for either pre orders
or people that have set up at the show want
to want stuff for their inventor. So that's where they

(05:01):
meet in this back hallway as a couple of tables
are set up for far to kind of roll through
with his sharpie's and paint pens.

Speaker 1 (05:08):
Now, there's so many interesting things coming off of this,
and the first thing I'm gonna say is this is
that this story is a little bit more near and
dear to me because this was the beginning of my
love of football, because it was the first time the
Jets were any good. Sure, you know the New York
sack exchange with Cleco and Abdul Salam who just passed away,
and Marty Lyons, who's been a Jets analyst for a

(05:29):
long time. Like they terrorized quarterbacks. I had a great nickname,
and Gatsino was the best and everybody in the league
hated him because he had a sack dance after every
time he sacked the quarterback. And one time Jackie Slater decided,
I've had enough and I'm gonna grab you and throw
you to the ground and grab your helmet and swing it.

Speaker 4 (05:46):
And there was a big.

Speaker 1 (05:47):
Fight because it was like, you're not gonna sack my
quarterback and then do a big dance over him. That
was gastle, but gas will rub people the wrong way.
But that was the first time that Jets were any good.
And that's why the Jets identity has always been a
great defensive line. No matter what they've been over the
last forty years, They've always had a really good defensive line,
right that's their identity, where the sack exchange that's kind

(06:08):
of who they are.

Speaker 4 (06:08):
The Chargers will always throw the football. Their identity is their.

Speaker 1 (06:11):
Quarterback, right, That's kind of how it goes. And so
this is the first time that the Jets had ever
been good, and they got to the AFC Championship game
and had a couple of big playoff games, and the
sack exchange is a really big deal. And you know,
I see this, and I go back and go, Okay,
I want to go back and look at the Farv
the play again, right, I want to go back and
see the Farv straight hand sack again. And it's really

(06:33):
bizarre watching it because it is clear that the Packers
allowed Michael Strahan to sack Brett Farv, not just Farv
running to the right. Bubba Franks is charged with blocking
Michael Strahan on this play, and Bubba Frank's tight end,
who you know, look was a much better pass receiver
than he was a blocker.

Speaker 4 (06:52):
But watch it.

Speaker 1 (06:53):
Michael Strahan just goes in unimpeded and Bubba Franks really
doesn't even try to block him on this play and
stray Han kind of just runs right by him and
runs in and sacks Brett Farv. And after the play
is over, like the game is still kind of in
doubt because the Packers are going to be punting, but
it's a nine point lead. I'm like, this is not
how you you'd give it. You'd let a guy sack

(07:14):
you with a nine point like it's still a two
score game with a couple of minutes left in the
Giants have twenty five points, but they stopped the game,
and straight Han's hugging everybody and members of the Giants
are hugging Brett Farv like, thank you for allowing him
to get this sack, even though awkwardly, yeah, yeah, did
the play by play guys are talking about go well,

(07:35):
he was given a gift on that, like he gave
him that sack, and it was generally, if I remember,
it wasn't so much of a controversy, which was just, hey,
he was he was one sack away from the record,
and the Packers gave it to him. Like there was
no big uproar about, oh my goodness, Brett fav is
ruining the fabric of the game and Michael Strahan's a sack,
But it was just assume that, yeah, he did him

(07:57):
a favor and gave him a sack, and it was
a shoulder shrug. And the more you watch it, you
watch the replays, now you see how bizarre it is
about both sides congratulating far for this.

Speaker 4 (08:06):
It was just really, really weird.

Speaker 1 (08:08):
And you know, probably this is why we never put
a lot of stock in Straight hands sack record, because
this was the final sack.

Speaker 4 (08:16):
And he's talked about it in the past.

Speaker 1 (08:17):
A Straight Hand has said, hey, it's like my I
didn't have a career, you know, because of this, Like
it's one play because Brett fav gave me a sack,
whatever it was, and I think that's kind of the
penance that he's paying for this sack, you know, a
sack you kind.

Speaker 4 (08:29):
Of were given.

Speaker 1 (08:30):
So the you know, we don't really didn't really talk
about your record all that much.

Speaker 4 (08:34):
When TJ.

Speaker 1 (08:34):
Watt was making a run at Straight Hand's record, it
wasn't that big a deal, I think, because it was
kind of assumed that, well, it was a record that
was gotten because you know, far from the packer sided
to give him that that sack. But you know, just
seeing this all come up again and seeing that play,
it just it doesn't compute that that could even happen
in twenty twenty four where someone could be getting set

(08:55):
for a record and a team allows the defensive end
to sack the quarterback to allow him to get that record,
and then congratulations from the other team, like that's just
such a foreign thing that could never that would never
happen now in the NFL.

Speaker 4 (09:10):
Well, but even.

Speaker 5 (09:11):
Back then, the fact that it did, you know, all
the alarms and whistles go off, and I guess there
was still enough of an arm's length away from gambling
and admonishing anybody that had anything to do with it
that you know, it didn't really get the level of
scrutiny it would now. I mean, can you imagine how

(09:31):
much goes in when you talk about prop bets and
all of those different things that we talk about each
and every week on the show and across the network.
So yeah, I've watched it a number of times today.
It's like, well, it looks more and more all these
years later, like a WWEKFA moment.

Speaker 2 (09:48):
Can you imagine, guys, if they took back the sack
because the refs called it back at a Chiefs game
on MA Homes.

Speaker 4 (09:56):
And then they're like a flag on it.

Speaker 1 (09:58):
Not only that they would throw a there's your first
flag for unsports with like conduct. I thought, you know what,
we're just throwing you right out of the game.

Speaker 4 (10:05):
We don't care.

Speaker 2 (10:05):
And it was all three officials from fifty yards away.

Speaker 4 (10:08):
But yeah, all of it.

Speaker 5 (10:10):
Like as this stirred up and I watched the gas
to Know clip probably ten times. It's like, wow, this
is amazing, and I'm surprised he doesn't punch him in
the head right Like that looks like that. That's where
we're headed to at some point where he's just gonna
throw right he starts to get emotional and to break
that is getting there FARV went on to Twitter and
did a lengthy multi part analysis of this. Uh. I

(10:36):
was in no way trying to hurt Mark Gastona. I
was trying to close out a game and squeeze the
last bit of fun.

Speaker 2 (10:41):
Did he apologize for stealing money?

Speaker 4 (10:43):
That was a different, different story, different where we get That's.

Speaker 5 (10:47):
Where we get to the punchline where Tara Owens and
several other people start to chime in on this.

Speaker 4 (10:51):
What if that?

Speaker 1 (10:52):
What if Gasolo actually said that at the end, you
took me, you took my record, and you took other
stuff too.

Speaker 4 (10:58):
Hey wow, took other stuff too well.

Speaker 5 (11:01):
There's a number of people that have responded to this
lengthy run by Brett farm by going wow, way to
look out for the welfare of Guessta know now just awful.

Speaker 4 (11:13):
But he goes. You know I saw him.

Speaker 5 (11:15):
I booted out of a run thinking it would be
wide open, straighthead standing there and ducked down. The game
was over. There was no need for me to do
anything spectacular. It probably wasn't Michael's best sack or tackle
for loss in a different gamer situation with a bigger
effort to avoid the sack or tackle for loss. But
I didn't think I was hurting gas. And he keeps

(11:36):
going on. He goes, I now see how being the
sack king, and he capitalized a sack king would elevate
his value at card shows, strengthened his case for the
Hall of Fame, and increase his demand as a public speaker.
I had no way of knowing that. Then I realize
now the potential financial implications because football is far more
business oriented than when me or Mark played. He keeps

(11:58):
going and talks about this particular incident, and then he
belongs in Canton. Merry Christmas everyone, and then that's when
seven hundred ninety seven people have respondedped out of the.

Speaker 4 (12:13):
Bush, this is all a joke. That was actually me.
He dressed up as Mark Gastono, that was me. That
was me. Uh.

Speaker 1 (12:20):
Look, Gastonel is a guy that once he left the NFL,
he had a host of problems. Right, He's had a
host of problems. He was in jail for a while,
he had some domestic violence issues.

Speaker 4 (12:30):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (12:30):
And you know, he's one of those people that has
always been trying to it seems like he's been trying
to do things the right way, but did something like this.
You know, he has things happen that he has to
be accountable for that. You can't do that. You need
to make sure that that the right decision, right jurisprudence
has made for it. I just see him holding onto
this this sack thing, and I just go, Man, it

(12:53):
means absolutely the world to him. It means the world
to him, and it's still this is his Guys hasn't
played in forty years. And you're gonna see the interviews
on Friday. Like he's talking to Brett Farve. You can
see his voice is shaking a little bit, like you
wonder what kind of shape the guy is in, you know,
and and you just I just think, I go, it's
just it's just sad. You know that that you know,

(13:15):
this is where it's at, that this is this was
my record, This was my whole life. And you look
at Michael Strahan who's gone on and the year, the
years he's had, the career he has had. Now he's
an incredibly successful uh in both football and on on
on morning show television, and his life has been some
kind of run and and I see gas and I
just go, man, this is someone who wakes up every

(13:36):
day thinking about that or thinking about his legacy. And yeah,
like Farv says, hey, I it would be great if
I could continue to write Sack King at card shows
and and it be what it actually is or or
might strengthen my case for the Hall of Fame. You
know that that that's something that you only see with
with time away from a story. And that's what makes

(13:58):
this such a such a really crazy thing is because again,
watching this unfold in two thousand and two, that's not
something that would ever even be close to happening in
twenty twenty four, Like you would see the NFL would
get involved there would be there would be a brawl
if there was some if you let a guy get
in to sack a quarterback there, but I mean it
would be a story that would be like wildfire for

(14:19):
like two weeks. There could be something we would talk
about ad nauseam. You let a guy get a sack,
you let him come in, you let him do this.
And no one's ever said, oh, we didn't do it.

Speaker 4 (14:28):
You know.

Speaker 1 (14:29):
Farvar's like, hey, I should I shouldn't have you know,
even quotes today, statements today from the New York Post
He's made to the New York Post about letting straighthand
you know, come in and sack him and what it
was there. So no one's ever thought this was completely
on the levels. Not even they never even tried to
say that this wasn't on the level.

Speaker 4 (14:44):
Thing.

Speaker 5 (14:45):
Yeah, it's tough, right because you talk about legacy, and
you know, guys like you and me and bloviating on
the radio and television, where do these guys rank and
whatever else? The only thing that really matters is how
they see themselves, and for him, that's the lasting legacy
he was looking to leave.

Speaker 4 (15:02):
Gastono.

Speaker 5 (15:03):
Of course, I'm talking about according to you know, a
quick research colon cancer and then dementia and the onset
of Alzheimer's, et cetera.

Speaker 4 (15:14):
So there's that part of the equation.

Speaker 5 (15:16):
That you're looking at, not only the money that's been lost,
the adulation and opportunities through the years, but everything that
now flows to a guy kind of looking at his
mortality and what he leaves behind.

Speaker 4 (15:27):
And that is just a giant asterisk exit al about
a Fresca exit swollen dome.

Speaker 1 (15:34):
The Jason Smith Show with Mike Carmon Live from the
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but coming up next is an NBA superstar about to
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this is Fox, this is Fox Sports Radio. It's not
Lebron James.

Speaker 2 (15:51):
How do you know?

Speaker 1 (15:52):
Because I could, because I know the story we're gonna do.
It's not Lebron James could.

Speaker 4 (15:56):
How do you know? May change? Get on you? Okay.

Speaker 1 (16:01):
NBA insider Alex Teyshert says, Lebron James is on the move.

Speaker 7 (16:04):
Yes, they're trading it for Giannis.

Speaker 4 (16:08):
What's Giannis's last name? Onto?

Speaker 1 (16:11):
Wow, congratulations Frostburg. That was pretty fast to get that
out to tell.

Speaker 7 (16:14):
You he's in the room right now.

Speaker 3 (16:18):
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Speaker 1 (16:33):
Fox Sports Radio. The Jason Smith Show with My best
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Speaker 2 (16:37):
Jason, what are you doing?

Speaker 4 (16:38):
What?

Speaker 2 (16:39):
I'll talk over this?

Speaker 4 (16:41):
Oh? I'm sorry. I was about to give Alex tye
shirt and use some props.

Speaker 2 (16:45):
I don't care.

Speaker 4 (16:46):
Oh wow, and fine, then, like Frostburg, there you go.
That's all we need.

Speaker 1 (16:54):
He's like, I got things to say. No, now, blend
out now now blank, both of you forget.

Speaker 4 (16:59):
It's over. Now, it's over.

Speaker 2 (17:00):
Why am I in this? Because frost prow he was
never gonna do it anyway. He barely thinks us. As
it is.

Speaker 1 (17:06):
He stood up for you. He stood up, so he
stood in for you. So I'm now I'm not gonna
do it.

Speaker 7 (17:10):
You're right, just unless it's five seventy. He doesn't thank us, That's.

Speaker 2 (17:13):
What I'm saying. Oh okay, it's like we did nothing tonight.

Speaker 1 (17:18):
Okay compared to most nights. Okay, let's see how that
works next time we want to order food. Wow, let's
see how that goes. Let's see how ordering food goes
from now on.

Speaker 4 (17:26):
Let's see. Let's see Merry Christmas. Ho ho ho, marry Christmas.
Oh oh, when.

Speaker 2 (17:34):
You spend fifty bucks on us, will be the first
you get.

Speaker 1 (17:38):
Damn wow, of all the lies you have told just
in the last ten years, that's like the biggest one.

Speaker 2 (17:44):
All right, I'm sorry, sixty sixty.

Speaker 1 (17:49):
I wish I could. I wish dinner for four of
us would be only sixty bucks. That'd be great. It's
sixty bucks. We go to a poil loco.

Speaker 4 (17:55):
That's nuts about That's about right. Wow, welcome to Connie four.

Speaker 3 (18:02):
No.

Speaker 1 (18:03):
I actually, uh talked to a friend of mine I
hadn't talked to in a long time, a couple of
days ago, and you know, asked about the show and everything,
and he goes, you know, I just love all the
songs you play at the holidays. I was like, oh,
I said, yeah, I said, that's all me. That's all I.
I come up with all the songs, all the stungs.

Speaker 4 (18:19):
No.

Speaker 1 (18:20):
I said, that's that's Alex and Justin they have all this.
He goes, you know, because I hear like I hear
holiday songs you know everywhere else and it's great to hear.
But but you guys play the really weird ones.

Speaker 2 (18:29):
Man, that's got nothing to do with me. If it
was up to me, no Christmas.

Speaker 1 (18:33):
There'd be no Christmas would be canceled. Like he's Tyberrell
from Modern Family.

Speaker 4 (18:37):
Christmas is canceled. Get rid of the tree or everything.
So there you go.

Speaker 1 (18:43):
Uh the Jason Smithson with Mike Carbon Livethetirec dot Com studios.
Guess what if you want Jimmy Buckets, he might be available.
Shamsani of ESPN had a big article today on espn
dot com, a big question answer about what's looking like
it happened as we get to the NBA trade deadline,

(19:03):
and according to Shams, Miami is open to trading Jimmy Butler.
The team's at the top of his list. According to
this report, Jimmy Mavericks, the Warriors, and the Rockets.

Speaker 4 (19:17):
Cleveland not on this list. There, the Lakers are not
on this They are.

Speaker 2 (19:22):
The Lakers like the fourth favorite in Vegas. What do
you mean?

Speaker 4 (19:26):
Okay?

Speaker 1 (19:26):
There the fourth Okay, I'm going by what Shams, did
you want to get get shams on the show and
we'll say Champs.

Speaker 4 (19:34):
I was gonna say, you go through.

Speaker 1 (19:35):
K first, come on hump. So first thing is this
is that his trouble has always been worth it for
the teams he has played on. Right, Jimmy Buckets is
a guy that he marches to his own to the
beat of his own drum, and he finds himself in

(19:58):
issues with teams, but generally his teammates really like him,
and he's got that anti hero brand of leadership that
really endears him to his teeth. Look, he's been with
Miami now for a while, and I thought, though this
is gonna flame out after a couple of years, huh,
because Jimmy Buckets would go from team to team and
a things would be great for a little while, and

(20:18):
then after a couple of years, I'm not sure I
want to be here anymore, and Jimmy Buckets would be
someplace else. But it's worked in Miami for a long time.
And for the criticism that Jimmy Buckets has gotten, I've
always been really impressed by his career arc because he's
someone who has stayed relevant, that continues to lead up
Miami Heat team that usually does nothing during the regular
season and all of a sudden the playoffs. It's man,

(20:40):
they look like the eighties Lakers. How did this happen
all of a sudden? And Jimmy Buckets is at the
forefront of it. The fact that he's been able to
continue to be this guy and have his career and
this career arc is really impressed because usually guys that
become too much trouble or they move on from team
to team, you just see them slowly have a couple
of do destinations and then they're out of the game

(21:02):
by the time they're thirty five to thirty six. But
he's thirty five and still going somewhat strong, averaging almost
twenty points a game still. And but to be this
relevant for this long and still be this important of
a player, I've always been really impressed by because everything
else with his career tells you this makes for a
short term life in the NBA.

Speaker 4 (21:19):
Was one of my favorite guys.

Speaker 5 (21:21):
Was really salty when he got traded away from Chicago
all those years ago.

Speaker 4 (21:25):
Looked like a you.

Speaker 5 (21:26):
Know, one of those personality conflicts, and then we saw
it the year time after time of he wants all
the guys to work way.

Speaker 4 (21:34):
Too hard in practice. That was the report. He pushes the.

Speaker 5 (21:39):
Young guys and gets on them and they get they
get their feelings hurt.

Speaker 4 (21:43):
All right.

Speaker 5 (21:43):
So based on uh Bovada odds, next teams Rockets, Warriors, Nets, MAVs, Lakers, Clippers, Magic.

Speaker 2 (21:55):
What are you ad Jason Sportsbook.

Speaker 4 (21:58):
It was on Bravado.

Speaker 2 (22:00):
We come on. The Lakers got to be the favorite.

Speaker 5 (22:02):
Mike Well, I don't know if they have any discernible
assets they can send back to my.

Speaker 4 (22:10):
Fantastic No, but.

Speaker 5 (22:12):
I'm dead face Coffee would become sure part of the show.

Speaker 4 (22:15):
For sure me. You know, big head, big face Coffee.
Let's go.

Speaker 1 (22:20):
No, But what I'm looking at is, look, I tell
you the Lakers are gonna make a move, right, They're
gonna make a move for a big van. Just to
indulge you on the Lakers. Yeah, is that by the deadline?
By the deadline, it's gonna be Kevin Durant. That's a Laker, KD.
I'm telling you KD is gonna be a Laker by
the death. You can see the love fest that went

(22:42):
on in the preseason with KD and Lebron. The Sons
are gonna.

Speaker 4 (22:46):
Realize, Okay, this is just not working.

Speaker 1 (22:48):
We got KD to put us over the top, and
we're still a team that is kind of hanging around
the bottom of the Western Conference. Let's move on because
the Lakers aren't going to have any other big, uh
big things they can pull off. But getting an expensive
older veteran to the Lakers, Hey, for the stretch run
that you add Katie. You can come in and be
a guy that can fill it up and and still score.

Speaker 4 (23:07):
That's the big Lakers move. That's the one. That's the
one I would go to.

Speaker 1 (23:10):
Vegas and say, Okay, what are those odds Katie becomes
a Laker at the deadline, That's the one I'll go for.
Jimmy Butler is tough because he still is kind of
an alpha, right, Like we've heard all the alpha stories
about him from the past few years. And well with Minnesota,
where the the uh when he when he you thought
he was gonna get traded and he he played a

(23:31):
pickup game at practice and he like schooled everybody like
one on four or something crazy like that. Uh, he's
still too much of an alpha. So a team like
the Lakers would he fit in.

Speaker 4 (23:42):
Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (23:42):
The Jimmy Buckets is coming in saying I'm good being
the third guy. That's why a team like Dallas doesn't
make sense. Golden State doesn't make sense because he's not
coming in. He needs to come in with some kind
of I'm I'm the older veteran and I still get
the ball enough to be a big difference maker, and
I can still be kind of looked at as a leader.
And that's why of all the teams, Houston's the best

(24:05):
bet because their best young players are younger, and you know,
Jimmy Butler can still come in and have influence with
them and be kind of the elder statesman.

Speaker 4 (24:12):
It would work.

Speaker 1 (24:13):
Like I think that that's kind of where Jimmy Butler
fits because it's kind of like how he fits now
with Miami. Right the younger players still look up to him,
and Tyler Hero talked about him today. You know, there's
still that situation of having to navigate the locker room
where a player can be the best version of himself.
I don't know that that works for Jimmy Butler with

(24:33):
any of those teams, but I think it works for Houston.
So of all those teams, that's one that makes the
most sense.

Speaker 5 (24:38):
Yeah, I like the potential fit there, although I do
love the chaos potential both in Dallas and with Golden State.
I mean, let's call it what it is. Jimmy Butler
and Draymond Green would be the super friends, uniting until
they fought each other, and then we'd get the spin
off and and all the battles that would wage be
waged within. So that would be good and it'd be

(25:00):
good content for us. The Lakers thing is a curiosity,
right because you know Ty Shirt joked about it before
the Lebron James.

Speaker 4 (25:09):
But all the thought pieces.

Speaker 5 (25:11):
Out there, you know, our guy Bill Plashki's saying, hey,
these guys should ask out and be traded away, both
Lebron and Ad and they should just blow it up
and reset it and start it from scratch, which is fun.
And then people had to come in and say, hey,
Bronny would.

Speaker 4 (25:27):
Have to go too.

Speaker 5 (25:28):
It's like, who gives a damn yes to throw in whatever, Sure,
Bronny's gotta go to. But all of that to say,
you know, we're getting ready to embark as much as
we're having fun watching the money being spent at the
Major League Baseball owners meetings. The idea of a Butler
or Kevin Durant changing squads once Durant's healthy, of course,

(25:51):
are mighty intriguing. I haven't seen any updated odds since,
you know, the summertime, because you know, talking contracts, extensions
and fit for all of that, and obviously him on
the shelf puts a little bit of a damper on
any of that kind of chatter at least for the moment.

Speaker 4 (26:10):
You know.

Speaker 1 (26:10):
And it's weird because for the heat now from their
perspective to say, okay, at some point they got to
move on from the Jimmy Butler era, and they've seen
the last couple of years. Look, we're not going to
be a great regular season team. He's thirty five. It's
not getting better. If anything, you're seeing him slowly become
a little bit less of.

Speaker 4 (26:28):
An impact guy than he was.

Speaker 1 (26:31):
And we can't have a team where Jimmy Butler is
our best player anymore. All Right, if Jimmy Butler there,
being a leader and being a guy to take shots
and being comfortable is one thing. But if you're talking
about a team where, hey, Jimmy Butler's your best player, yeah,
you're not gonna go very far. So it kind of
makes sense for the Heat era to end here with

(26:52):
Jimmy Butler if they're looking to move on from him
because of that, because at some point you have to say,
all right, we've done enough, We've done X one, and
now Tyler Heroes become someone we can trust. He's scoring
twenty five a game, bam Adebayo is still really good.
We have other players that can make up for this.
Let's get a return and let's sort of reload on

(27:13):
the fly here in the East, because if not, we're
just gonna keep going with Jimmy Butler until we fall
into disrepair and then suddenly we're really starting over. So yeah,
if something is out there for us to move him,
yeah we'll do it. So I really get it from
the Heat perspective of wanting it's just weird that well again,
I keep going back to the fact that I can't
believe he's still there and he hasn't been dealt before now.

(27:34):
But his brand of anti hero leadership has worked, I'm
telling him.

Speaker 5 (27:39):
But yeah, and he's the identity of that squad, right,
I mean, it's him and their coach, the guy nobody wanted.

Speaker 4 (27:47):
Still get it done.

Speaker 5 (27:49):
To your point, Hero is over twenty four nearly twenty
five a game. You've got five guys that average double figures,
including the great Duncan Robinson.

Speaker 2 (27:58):
Ah, I don't forget Kevin.

Speaker 4 (28:00):
Kevin Love's still there.

Speaker 5 (28:02):
Yeah, twelve games played, twelve months to night, about seven minutes,
seven points a game. So you got that, you got Djoevich,
and you've got Haimi hawkez that you're trying to figure
out more shots and opportunity for them to So yeah,
you do have more youth, uh, just waiting for their opportunity.
But yeah, for Jimmy Butler, would be weird to see
him in another uniform, whereas once upon a time it

(28:24):
was how will he have more jerseys on the wall
than say, I don't know a Bartolo cologne.

Speaker 4 (28:29):
During the full circle? Instead, he's been there quite a while.

Speaker 1 (28:33):
Yeah, I mean, look he did you know he had
the six years at Chicago. Then it was a couple
in Minnesota and he had to go. Then it was
one year in Philadelphia, and that's you thought, Okay, he's
just gonna be a rental. Right, He's gonna be a
guy that he comes in. If it works, great, If not,
we're gonna jetison them. He went from six years to
a team two years, one year with the six Ers
and he had to go. But it's been six years
of the Miami Heat and the finals appearance. I mean,

(28:55):
it's you know, it's worked for him later on in
his career. I got, I got all kinds of mad
respect that I would have to ask this one question.

Speaker 5 (29:02):
Anybody that has video of practices and conversations Jimmy Butler
and the other members of that iteration of the Philadelphia
seventy six ers, please send them along at Swollen Dome
on Twitter, because those had to be some epic back
and forth. The come on, get on the cork, let's
go time now to find out what's trending in the
wide world of sports. A guy who was once known

(29:24):
as Stevie Buckets in high school, but you know, changed
his name to.

Speaker 4 (29:28):
Steve de Sager and now he's telling us what's trending.

Speaker 8 (29:31):
That was just cleaning up after painting, actually had nothing
to do with the basketball whatsoever.

Speaker 2 (29:37):
But thank you.

Speaker 8 (29:37):
We had a couple of quarterfinals of the NBA Cup
tonight at Milwaukee. The Bucks speed Orlando one fourteen to
one oh nine. Yannis on Tanacumpo thirty seven points, and
then Oklahoma City eliminated Dallas one eighteen one oh four
to thirty nine points for shay Giljis Alexander. The MAVs
had won seven in a row. The two other quarterfinals,
who are on Wednesday. The tourney semis and final will

(29:59):
be in Las Vegas, is starting this Saturday. Kawhi Leonard
practiced with the Clippers today for the first time this
season after knee inflammation. In college basketball, on the men's side,
two games at Madison Square Garden, Number one Tennessee State undefeated,
beating Miami seventy five sixty two balls with a fourteen
to zero run and the first half the last seven
and a half minutes, and then Arkansas, which was down

(30:20):
fourteen in the first half, came back to beat Number
fourteen Michigan eighty nine eighty seven. Each team now eight
and two wins for Duke Houston and Illinois, which beat
number twenty Wisconsin eighty six to eighty. Among the eleven
NHL games, Minnesota has won in a shootout at Utah,
overtime win for Toronto at New Jersey, and it was

(30:41):
Winnipeg eight to one over Boston Steelers. Wide receiver George Pickens,
with a bad hamstring, is doubtful for Sunday at Philadelphia.
Pittsburgh can clinch a playoff berth with a win. Cowboys
linebacker de Marvian Overshow will have surgery this week for
tor knee ligaments.

Speaker 2 (30:56):
He could miss next season.

Speaker 8 (30:58):
The Saints sign quarterback Ben Danucci to the practice squad.
The Browns cut return man Cadarius Tony Scottie Scheffler was
named PGA Tour Player of the Year for the third
straight season. He won seven tour events, the Olympic gold
medal and the season title.

Speaker 2 (31:12):
And the New York.

Speaker 8 (31:13):
Yankees agreed to an eight year deal with left handed
pitcher Max Freed from the Braves, where they're reported two
hundred and eighteen million dollars. The Blue Jays acquired gold
glove second basement Andre Simenez from Cleveland, and tonight a
couple moves for Texas. The Rangers have re signed pitcher
Nathan Evaldi to a three year deal, and now Texas
has acquired slugger Jake Berger from Miami.

Speaker 2 (31:34):
Back to you.

Speaker 4 (31:36):
Ex White Sox Burger.

Speaker 8 (31:40):
He's got the physique that he must love like Wimpy,
a good Hamburger.

Speaker 1 (31:44):
You know certain things, like when your name is a
certain thing, you know what your destiny of life is
going to be.

Speaker 4 (31:49):
I think it's all right. I'm good, I know, I know,
and it's gonna be it's all f it's all fun.

Speaker 2 (31:54):
How are you not Jason Berger?

Speaker 4 (31:57):
Yeah? Why did he not change your name? Let me
see Jason, Let me see Jason Berger, Jason Burger. Jason
Berger is a drummer.

Speaker 5 (32:07):
Uh oh wow.

Speaker 1 (32:09):
He's a drummer for Big Thief, which is one of
my daughter's favorite bands.

Speaker 2 (32:13):
That's what I didn't know that it's the holiday season.

Speaker 8 (32:17):
You could be the Burger meister meister Berger or.

Speaker 4 (32:20):
The meister Berger. Sure, yeah, my biger Bergermeisterberger. Yeah, or
it could be Yukon Cornelias. You eat what you like,
and I'll eat what I like. All right, thank you, Steve.

Speaker 2 (32:29):
You'd have to learn to walk a funny way like
the figures.

Speaker 1 (32:33):
But yeah, you have to walk, ste I'll take a
class in that, how to walk like Claymation.

Speaker 4 (32:38):
All right, great? No, walking is fine. Running I don't
run now. Walking is absolutely walk fast, absolutely fine.

Speaker 1 (32:44):
I could walk some Oh are you kidding? If I
have to go to the bathroom. I can walk really fast.

Speaker 2 (32:49):
You see out or if the McDonald's is about to close.

Speaker 1 (32:52):
Yeah, I look like one of those race walkers from
the Olympics that look like their hips are gonna fall out.

Speaker 4 (32:57):
That's how fast I wanting. I gotta go. I gotta go,
but Donald's clothing. Gotta go to the bath for back
up the.

Speaker 1 (33:03):
Jason Smith for the Mike Harmon Live the Direct dot
Com Studios.

Speaker 4 (33:07):
Burger coming up next. You thought one soda was a
big move?

Speaker 1 (33:12):
How about what the Yankees did tonight and what could
happen next?

Speaker 4 (33:17):
Keep it right here, Jason.

Speaker 3 (33:18):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven
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Speaker 4 (33:28):
It's a count dooku Christmas?

Speaker 3 (33:30):
Yes, I killed the younglings?

Speaker 4 (33:34):
He fat radio well he did?

Speaker 7 (33:37):
Why of everything?

Speaker 4 (33:39):
He didn't do it well?

Speaker 3 (33:41):
He made he made Anakin do it?

Speaker 4 (33:46):
Sorry? Did that the whole point? Anakin was made to
do stuff? Yes, soft and whiny? No, you tell him, Mike.
He fit.

Speaker 9 (33:55):
He was seduced and murdered by the ducks, seduce murdered
by young he was You listened to Ubi Will and
Kenubi and he said.

Speaker 4 (34:02):
He was murdered. No, he was not.

Speaker 9 (34:05):
But I'm going to be very creative with the language
for the sequel because it's going to explain everything, like do.

Speaker 7 (34:10):
You mind spoiling for him and tell him that he
doesn't die?

Speaker 4 (34:12):
All right, well, let's do this. Who doesn't die? Whinier
Anakin or Aaron Rodgers? Kylo, Let's go?

Speaker 1 (34:22):
Oh, man, Kylo was really whiny. Kylo was really what
you know? And honestly, you can point to it. Just
really quick about this, because you could point to a
lot of things about why the why Star Wars has
not succeeded. I can't say it's fail. It's made a
lot of money, the brand is still going, but it's
not been what it was. And you have to just

(34:42):
point back to, boy, did they have a really bad villain?
You know? The Star Wars villains have always been cool,
and movies about heroes are only as good as their villain.
Why is Endgame and Infinity War so good? Because Thanos
was an unbelievably good villain? Why was The Avengers good
because Loki? Why is die Hard the best Christmas ever?
Because Alan Rickman is fantastic? But he could have been

(35:04):
so good? But Instead, he was whiny, and I felt
like they didn't know what to do with the character,
and maybe that that Adam Driver and his agency got
he's got to have his helmet off. He can't have
one's amana. And they completely ruined what could have been
a really good character. And he wasn't cool to.

Speaker 2 (35:20):
Talk about jar Jar tell him you man, George jar
was cooler.

Speaker 4 (35:23):
I'd rather have Jarge the Redemption tour Man.

Speaker 2 (35:28):
Better baseball player, Anakin Juan Soda.

Speaker 1 (35:34):
Oh, he can control the ball m every time he
gets there's another home. No, Anakin would cost a lot
of money. Now, Anakin in twenty twenty four, a guy
that can.

Speaker 2 (35:45):
Move stuffy him that much.

Speaker 5 (35:48):
I don't know Anakin getting mine controlled or Scott Borris puppeteer.

Speaker 4 (35:53):
Yeah no, but Anikin's the only one with mine control.

Speaker 1 (35:55):
He'd be fine. He'd be able to. Hey, you will sign,
we will sign Juan Soto. You'll get were something to
be the chosen one. You'll give him seven hundred and
seventy five million dollars. We'll give him seven hundred and
sixty five million dollars. Oh, sorry, it doesn't matter.

Speaker 4 (36:08):
That's fine. Seven sixty five is fine. It's fine, it's fine,
it's fine. I have the high ground, so yeah, I
would go Anakin, so it would be a home run.

Speaker 1 (36:16):
And also, like you think about the crazy screwballs he
could throw, like the ball would just move on and
be able to hit it.

Speaker 4 (36:22):
It would just zip cat. There is something that he
said there forget about it.

Speaker 2 (36:25):
Like a Chiefs field goal at the end of the game.

Speaker 1 (36:28):
Otani would look like one point oh o Tani compared
to what Anakin could do.

Speaker 4 (36:32):
My good. They would the Dodger just wave Otani to get.

Speaker 2 (36:35):
And they probably officially underpaid. What do you mean, Yeah, no,
he is, but.

Speaker 1 (36:38):
They would wave him to get Anakin. They wouldn't need
Otani anymore. There's hey, listen that forty million dollars a year.

Speaker 4 (36:43):
Come see us. Yeah, I'm both cows now speaking of one.

Speaker 1 (36:50):
So tho, he was the big story the last couple
of days, seven hundred and sixty five million dollars to
the Mets. And yes, seeing all the eight seeing all
the hate flow, Oh the Mets and wad Soto, you're
not gonna win. Upset Yankee fans, upset people who are
baseball pundits, Oh the Bets, Yes.

Speaker 4 (37:08):
Give me your hate.

Speaker 5 (37:09):
I would feel all your hate it when it goes
bad and September and October, are you gonna go running
into the ocean like I almost lost the guy gonna
gave up that home run to Joe Carr the Met.

Speaker 4 (37:21):
I want to go through that again.

Speaker 1 (37:22):
The Mets and the Mets are not the Jets where
they're run by a bunch of clowns.

Speaker 4 (37:26):
It's not no, they're not. No, we were not anymore.
We flipped that narrative. Man, you're just run with.

Speaker 2 (37:32):
A clown that has money.

Speaker 4 (37:34):
Oh I knows he does have a lot of money, though, Uh,
I know. I'm sorry that people can't understand.

Speaker 1 (37:41):
Don't have the bandwidth to get that this is a
great most.

Speaker 4 (37:48):
They don't have the bandwidth.

Speaker 1 (37:49):
I always, I always laugh at the Mets, So I
know I'm just gonna try to find a way to
laugh at the Mets.

Speaker 4 (37:53):
It's all I could do. I don't know what else
to do.

Speaker 2 (37:55):
Very easy.

Speaker 4 (37:56):
No, but some habits die hard. Man, If you don't
like that deal, how about this one?

Speaker 1 (38:03):
The Yankees tonight in a knee jerk response, we gotta
go get a player and get somebody tomorrow.

Speaker 4 (38:08):
I don't care how many millions of dollars. You gotta
give him.

Speaker 1 (38:10):
The Yankees agree with free agent pitcher Max Freed for
eight years, two hundred and eighteen million dollars. Now, look,
I love this story because it gets an out of
the NA East to the Yankees. Okay, but that's fine.
You talk about risks. I look the one Soto deal
I told you last night, it's not without risk, motivation, injury,
taking up so much money out of the out of

(38:31):
the salary situation like that, that's a thing.

Speaker 4 (38:33):
Those are concerns like it doesn't come without risk.

Speaker 1 (38:36):
This Max Free deal double triple the risk because you're
talking about investing all kinds of money in a starting
pitcher where quite honestly, name me the last starting pitcher
contract that was like this, that was multiple years, five
seven years and into one hundred and fifty two hundred
million dollars that went, well, none of them do, they don't.
This is an incredibly large risk. You know me, I'm

(38:58):
never gonna be upset about not paying for starting pitching
because it's too much of a risk. Everyday players, Okay,
I'm up with that because they're everyday players. But pitchers,
the injury risk, the ineffectiveness. What could happen? You have
no idea. This is a thirty year old guy that
they gave two hundred and eighteen million dollars, not a
twenty four year old.

Speaker 4 (39:16):
They have a thirty year old guy. How is this
gonna go? Well? This is double triple? What the risk
was for Wan Soda? Yeah?

Speaker 5 (39:22):
I like the chaos potential of it. I mean, certainly
eight years for a pitcher is just acidine. But you
got bullied into that meeting room. You got bullied on
to that call and defects terms back and forth or
epacts or whatever the hell you're using based We were
talking with John Palmerrosi earlier, Jason, like you had the

(39:43):
big Sodo signing and the Yankees were not gonna leave
without a big sticker item Max fried Fit the.

Speaker 1 (39:49):
Bill, exit out by the Fresco exit, Swallen down the
Jason Smith Show with my best friend Mike Carmen. Good
luck Yankees, good luck making that work. That's gonna be
awesome to watch. Good look, yeah, buddy, uh coming up next,
the biggest soap opera in the NFL just got even better.

Speaker 4 (40:08):
That's next right here. Jason to Mike, this is Fox
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Speaker 7 (40:11):
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