Best of the Jason Smith Show with Mike Harmon

Jason and Mike update both Monday Night Football games. Longtime NFL Insider Jason La Canfora swings by. Jason explains why the Vikings have no choice other than to franchise tag Sam Darnold. How to slow down Josh Allen? Plus, exactly how the Lions season will end!

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Speaker 1 (00:32):
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there is having a touchdown get take it off the
board because of penalty, and then there's having a touchdown
taking off the board because of a penalty because a
player didn't report in. The Bears looked like they were
gonna have their deficit to the Minnesota Vikings thirteen nothing Bears.

(01:15):
Finally a nice little drive going DeAndre Swift in the
end zone. However, Bears had an offensive lineman come out
and play fullback. One problem. Dan Campbell will tell you
you got to report, You gotta come in. You gotta
tell the officials. Hey, I'm eligible. And you can see
the replay. He just went right into the huddle.

Speaker 3 (01:35):
I don't know. Nobody told him what to do. Didn't
tell me. Nobody told nobody.

Speaker 1 (01:40):
Into the huddle, lined up as a full back. Hey,
touchdown Bears. Nope, pulled off the board. The Bears, of course,
cannot get in the end zone after that, wind up
kicking a field goal. So it could have been, Hey,
thirteen to seven, Bears are somehow in this game. It
is still a ten point lead. Yeah, for the Vikings,
Swift stopped at the one.

Speaker 4 (01:58):
On a subsequent run, you had another air mail from
Caleb Williams. He had a couple on that drive of
would have could have shoot of balls. And then yeah,
once again the offensive line at the goal line, uh
comes into play. We saw it weeks ago on the
infamous Hey, let's give it to alignment instead of running

(02:20):
Roshan Johnson. Well, Johnson's not available for goal line work now.
So let's bring a guy in as a blocker. And
you watched the three man you know, kind of like
it's the end of Star Wars as they go into
Alignment to try to destroy Luke Skywalker and company. Instead. Yeah,
here's a penalty. Good job by job by the Bears.

(02:42):
I mean, it was a good run play, it really was.
He never even looked at.

Speaker 3 (02:47):
The official and any any DeAndre Swift. It was air
for him.

Speaker 1 (02:55):
However, However, here's the thing. This game tonight is everything
you can complain about the Bears all season in one
three hour window. It is Caleb Williams missing open wide receivers.
It is the Bears defense not being able to cover

(03:17):
anybody for a long time. I can't believe Sam Darnold
had any incomplete passes because there was all kinds of
separation on every single play. There's ridiculously bad coaching decisions.
Let's go forward fourth and one and pitch it to
DeAndre Swift.

Speaker 3 (03:32):
That didn't work. Okay, Let's go for it again on
fourth and one, give it to DeAndre Swift. That should
do it.

Speaker 1 (03:36):
With the DeAndre Swift on fourth out plays, Let's get them.
Let's excize them from the playbook. This is everything with
the Bears in one three hour window. And of course
right now the cherry on top of the Sunday, the
touchdown that gets pulled off the board because Lineman failed
to report it.

Speaker 4 (03:52):
Oh no, all of it's beautiful. Man defense has done
the job as much as you can. Just thirteen points allowed. Stevenson.
Once upon a time, the guy waving and yelling at
the crowd on the Hail Mary play against the Commanders.
He's got an interception, so you got that going for you.
But otherwise just another non non descript effort. And you know,

(04:15):
Thomas Brown in his audition, it's a fail at every turn,
just like we said it was going to be.

Speaker 3 (04:21):
You know, hey, look he got elevated.

Speaker 5 (04:22):
Look at it.

Speaker 4 (04:23):
He goes up several levels in eighteen days. And what's
that done for you? The last two weeks you had
fifty seven yards combined into first halves, fifty seven combined.
This week not much better. Caleb Williams throwing for one
hundred and twenty two yards. Yeah, at this point you're
leading receiver as rolla dune day, he's got thirty nine yards.

Speaker 1 (04:42):
You know, it's you know, I look at Caleb Williams
and I'm gonna make a really great cinematic comparison.

Speaker 3 (04:49):
Oh, let's go, dude, you wish you? How Caleb there is?
We'll get him next to wish you. We'll get Caleb
Williams next year. It'll be fine. Iber Flus will be
our head coach.

Speaker 2 (04:57):
It'll be great.

Speaker 3 (04:58):
You're getting a dude from Floridas day. No, we're not. No,
we're not getting declared. After seven years, he is declared.
He's been with four different programs. No, no, no, no, no,
no no, it's.

Speaker 1 (05:11):
We're gonna have the Tennessee Can It's gonna be Robinson
and Vrabel and that's what's gonna be.

Speaker 4 (05:15):
Actually, he's kind of got the same career as Juan Soda, right,
four teams and seven years, a.

Speaker 1 (05:19):
Little bit, a little bit better, uh, a little bit
better track record one. So it's just a lot old
bit better, a little bit better. No, not a lot older.
Come on, stop man. The oldest he could be is thirty.
All right, So here's the stup.

Speaker 3 (05:32):
Here's the thing.

Speaker 1 (05:32):
Okay, this is watching Caleb Williams play. And you see,
I don't know quite he knows what he sees, what
he's looking for. Downfield yet, but you can see the
talent is there.

Speaker 3 (05:42):
The arm talent is.

Speaker 1 (05:42):
There at certainly there all remember in uh In Butch
Cassidy and the Sundance Kid when Sundance wants to show
that he can shoot and he's trying to show Butch
Cassidy and he starts shooting. He's missing everything and he goes,
how are you missing everything? And and sun Dance goes,
can I move? Hecause, yeah, sure, And sometimes hays a
barrel roll and he's hitting and he's knocking everything over

(06:05):
and he's moving, He's doing all kinds of stuff. He's
on he's on his but he's on his knee.

Speaker 3 (06:09):
He's hitting everything.

Speaker 1 (06:10):
Like you watch Caleb Williams and the plays where he
is the freest, where he is absolutely at his best,
our plays when he's outside the pocket. When he gets
outside the pocket and extends plays, he finds the right receiver.
You just watched a great broken play on this last
drive where Williams looked like he was out of time
and he suddenly comes back across and finds Romo Donze.

(06:32):
I mean this is what I would I would call
everything to get him outside the pocket. I get him
outside the pocket as much as possible. I would call
plays specifically to break down. Hey, listen, hey, just let
your uh, let the let the blitzer come in. I mean,
don't let him come all the way in, but let
him come and just give him a little bit be
want to get Caleb outside the pocket and want to
get him doing something to because he is moving. When
he is when he's moving, he makes those throws. It's

(06:53):
the throws in the pocket. It's it's the gimmes. It's
the Hey, this is a five step drop and keenan
Allen's standing five yard past the first down marker and
he's white and you miss him by by four yards.
You know that that Those are the throws that I
look at, Go what is he doing? Like the easy,
the gimme stuff to get like, that's the stuff he
struggles with the heart of the more difficult stuff. The hey,
making the play, extending the play. That's the stuff he's

(07:15):
really good at. And that stuff he you know, he's
come in you can't teach. I would I would call
all kinds of plays like that when when he can move,
he's a different quarterback. But in the pocket, when he's
got to make a throw, it's dude, you got to
just execute these easy throws sometimes.

Speaker 4 (07:29):
Well, it was the same thing we watched with justin
fields before it improvisation on the on the move, but
also designed rollouts which are not there. And the last
drive you talk about the arm strength and the ability
to throw that frozen rope to Adnze to get the
first down and keep.

Speaker 3 (07:46):
The drive alive.

Speaker 4 (07:47):
You had another play whereby you know he's going to
make the throw down the sideline and he overshoots the
receiver by seven yards who had several yards of separation
safety had and rotated over. Should have been an easy
seven points. Instead it falls harmlessly and it's off the field.
He's not even falling incomplete in the field to play.

(08:08):
It's it's shot well over U the receiver and the
field and not even giving him a chance to go
out and make a play. And that's the thing you're
seeing time and time again from this Bears offense, not
having Johnson in the run game when you've got let's
call it what it is, it's a bad offensive line.
And Ryan Poles, what did he play in the National

(08:30):
Football League? You know this one to have to the button? Yeah,
hit a button, No, deal, no deal, No, it's so exciting.

Speaker 3 (08:40):
Deal or no deal.

Speaker 1 (08:41):
Antonio benders no deal that you don't need to hit
the button. But I'm so excited. Offensive line, that is
what is he really failed that? Evaluating Jason again? Yeah,
no deal.

Speaker 3 (08:58):
Fail Jason? Yeah, offensive line.

Speaker 4 (09:01):
You brought a guy in three years, thirty million dollars,
you cut him. What are the reports this guy was
no good and didn't fit. You hired Eberfluse, your brain
trust everybody what was happening And we'd seen this report before,
but it's cycled up again this week. They colts were
gonna fire him, that he was gonna get fired, and

(09:23):
you hired him as your headman. All of that to say,
it's been one disaster AFT or another. Now he's an
empty suit being puppeteered by Kevin Warren. And you know,
Thomas Brown did some great things. You saw some growth
in the offense. What's the thing you don't want to do? Hey,
let's add a bunch of responsibility right when your offense

(09:43):
is starting to at least look like some semblance of
a cohesive unit. And what you've seen from the last
couple of weeks, whatever, the final point totals are or whatever.
Don't kid yourself. You've watched a train wreck week after
week after week, and tonight it's thirteen to three, So
somebody will want to hang their hat on it, say, oh, look,
what a great effort this was. No, you're three hundred

(10:05):
and eighty five days removed from your last road win
for a reason.

Speaker 1 (10:09):
Meanwhile, and you know this if you're a fan of
one of the two teams, or if you are fantasy
playoffs are coming on two Monday night games. Tonight, the
Falcons lead the Raiders. Another field goal for the Falcons.

Speaker 3 (10:23):
It is now twelve to three. Not really a game.
Can we vult on this crap and make it actually
one good game? Is there a way to do that? No,
it's I don't wow, I don't know.

Speaker 5 (10:32):
Man.

Speaker 3 (10:32):
Can we let the Vikings play the Falcons and take
the other two home?

Speaker 1 (10:35):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (10:35):
Yeah, yeah, that is true. That is true.

Speaker 1 (10:38):
At least we didn't get Bears Raiders like that would
have been something. Or you dump out of it and
you show Adam Schefter's three.

Speaker 3 (10:43):
For three hours.

Speaker 1 (10:44):
Oh boy, yeah, the Adam Schefter, Doug Gottlieb. That is
that has been that has been a thing, that has
been a thing tonight. So yeah, man, like we call
what it is.

Speaker 4 (10:54):
We're reporting news and discussion points along the way.

Speaker 1 (10:58):
The Falcons lead the race twelve to three, nine minutes
to go in the third quarter.

Speaker 3 (11:05):
There was a safety in that game though, Yeah, yeah,
I had a block punt. You had a safety.

Speaker 1 (11:09):
Like if you like low scoring games that you don't
really need to pay as much attention to because it's
the holidays and other things are going on and you
want to be able to check in once in a while,
this is your game, Like, this is absolutely the game
you want, right any case, middle of the third quarter, now,
Kirk Cousins seven out of eleven eighty four yards, a

(11:31):
touchdown in an interception, Desmond Ritter seven out of eleven
for fifty nine yards. Yay, that's a lot offense right there,
A lot offense, A lot offense.

Speaker 4 (11:43):
How much excit being displayed by Shud or Saint al.

Speaker 3 (11:47):
Dns right almost there?

Speaker 1 (11:50):
You know, most there the Falcons trying to stay in
the the periphery of the playoff race, and Kirk Cousins
clearly is someone who you know, desperately trying to hold
on to his job for as long as he can. Yeah,
and you know, winning tonight. Obviously, if they if they
hold out to win, it's the Raiders they hold, they'd
be seven and seven and they'd be in the thick

(12:12):
of it.

Speaker 3 (12:12):
He'd be in the thick of it.

Speaker 1 (12:13):
So I feel pretty good by giving by by going
here is that if the Falcons win tonight, Kirk Cousin
stays the quarterback the rest of the season because they
will be within shouting distance of a playoff spot. It
might come down to the last week where they where
they're up to there to win to get eliminated. But
being seven and seven, they're still in it and they
won't make that move to Michael Pennix, uh, probably until

(12:36):
next year.

Speaker 4 (12:36):
How terrible are they that they actually swept the season
series with a pretty good Tampa Bay team. Yeah, and
everybody else, Yeah, Tragbady's beating everybody else playing well. We'll
talk about them as we go on final three games
for the Falcons at the Giants, at the Commanders, and
then home against the upstart Carolina Panthers.

Speaker 1 (12:57):
So we'll keep you updated on both of these games. Remember,
it is the Fantasy football playoffs, and there's still two
of two seventies. Yes, and it is the playoffs, Fantasy playoffs.
That means, that's my putting it out there from what
you gotta keep cursing. Get Caleb Williams. Caleb Williams and
Dj Moore and the Vikings defense and Jacoby Myers who

(13:17):
still hasn't caught a pass, still hasn't caught a pass.
It's like nineteen points a week. He hasn't caught a pass.
All right, Fantasy are the only playoffs you ever see.

Speaker 3 (13:26):
In your world?

Speaker 1 (13:27):
Oh yeah, dude, that's the all go. I haven't seen
Jeff sportswear point. I haven't seen Jeff did I did
I even know you? The last time that Jets made
the play though, I don't know if I knew.

Speaker 3 (13:35):
Any of you. I did Jets charge your game with you?

Speaker 4 (13:39):
You did?

Speaker 3 (13:39):
That was pretty sweet? I know it wasn't. Gino Smith
was the quarterback in that game.

Speaker 5 (13:43):
Uh, keep you.

Speaker 1 (13:45):
Updated on these games again? Thirteen three and twelve three.
So they're keeping the scores close. Yeah, but how much
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Speaker 3 (15:12):
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Speaker 5 (15:16):
No?

Speaker 3 (15:17):
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Speaker 1 (15:23):
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Speaker 1 (15:49):
Uh. The Vikings are in the end zone. Aaron Jones
with a touchdown and he does a Spider Man celebration,
hangs on the railing, turns does the Spider Man.

Speaker 3 (16:02):
May get twenty to three Vikings with the lead.

Speaker 1 (16:04):
Late in the third quarter, Bears have the football completed
past the DJ Moore puts them across midfield, but it
is a twenty to three. Vikings lead. Meanwhile twelve three. Yeah,
Falcons lead the Raiders in a game that is also
being broadcast? Is that right? So I said that, I
would say not true. In a game that is also
being broadcast on national.

Speaker 4 (16:25):
Television, the alternate broadcast, they're doing everything they can to
do picture and picture of the Bears Viking game. If
anything remotely interesting happens, it's covering up two thirds of
the screen.

Speaker 5 (16:36):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (16:37):
I like on the on the on the Raiders game,
the bug that says, hey live on live on ABC
is the is the Bears and the Vikings and really
really really really tiny can barely even see it as hey,
you know, yeah, the other channel is Falcons Raiders.

Speaker 3 (16:51):
That's up too, Falcons Raiders. Yeah, it's there.

Speaker 1 (16:53):
Feeds very interested. Yeah, I mean if you want, I
mean you you don't have to, obviously, but I mean, yeah.

Speaker 4 (16:57):
Hey, listens, good thing you're not trying to run an
alternate at red zone. Yeah no, no, no, no no no,
that'd beaverybody.

Speaker 3 (17:03):
Listen.

Speaker 4 (17:03):
If you're doing he's kicked his feet up and he's
taking an ast. If you're absolutely not doing anything, hey
turn that game on, all right. I mean if you
have nothing else going on. You'll that's what it'll be.
You know what the alternate programming should have been, what's
up the e Cup final? H So we're gonna have
Jason locking Forward coming up in a little bit here. Again,

(17:24):
we still have the both games happening going to the
fourth quarter. Now, let's talk about Sam Darnold here for
a second. Oh, let's all right, because here.

Speaker 1 (17:31):
The Vikings, look, they're in control here against the Bears,
are gonna get another W. And of all the teams
in the NFC, look, with the Lions had a big loss,
the Eagles had a big win. Eventually, I mean, I'm
not but eventually people are gonna start believing in the
Vikings as as huge contenders. But Donald is someone who
clearly has shown that, hey, in the right situation, I

(17:53):
can be the guy you drafted me to be right,
And he looked like he started to slow down a
little bit middle of the season. I thought, Okay, this
is where the NFL catches up with him. But being
able to just say hey, justin Jefferson, where are you.
Here's the football clearly has helped him and he has
been terrific since the time I thought that Okay, now
he's gonna slow down a bit, right. He's got eleven
touchdowns in the last four weeks, has been incredibly good,

(18:15):
and he's been good enough tonight. He hasn't been amazing tonight,
but he's been good enough and you're up by seventeen to.

Speaker 4 (18:22):
Needa w He's made a couple of big throws though,
I mean Jefferson touchdown, the Jefferson down to the one,
the one that Jefferson dropped that should have been a touchdown.
He's also nearly given given away a couple of opportunities
but the Bears can't catch.

Speaker 1 (18:37):
But Addison and Jefferson are merciless love the Bears hate
the Vikings Hockinson with a couple of big catches, but yes,
running free in the Bears secondary much of the night.
This is where it's a found money season and it's
awesome for Minnesota. But let me throw this out there
because this really is something that they have to make

(18:59):
a decision for the future of their franchise. This is
a guy who's gonna end this season right, and they
didn't expect him to have this year. They didn't even
think he was gonna play right. He's only he's only
there to be a placeholder until JJ McCarthy was ready.
But JJ McCarthy gets hurt. Sam Donald gets thrown in
there and suddenly look at the guy. Guy's a pro bowler.
All of a sudden, McCarthy has to have a second surgery.

(19:21):
And now you've got a timeline that you're trying to
figure out. He's gonna throw thirty five touchdowns, right, he's
gonna throw for forty five hundred yards some somewhere around
that area. He's going to be one of the he's
gonna be the sought after quarterback in free agency. And
before you can say, well, they'll just bring him back
next year, I mean you're gonna have to Are you

(19:41):
gonna franchise Sam Donald? I mean that's almost kind of
what you would have to do to say, okay, we're
gonna franchise you, to see can you do it one
more year? And let's see JJ McCarthy have a whole
year of getting back to the NFL because he got
hurt so early, because and and say, I mean, look,
you're gonna have an upset Sam darnal if he gets
franch Oh do it again. This is where you cash in,

(20:02):
like the Vikings have a really difficult time right now,
because yeah, you hit it great with Sam Darnold, but
who's your guy, right is it? Can you commit to
Sam Darnald and say, okay, well we'll find a way
to spin JJ McCarthy off.

Speaker 4 (20:16):
Like that's a that's a really difficult thing. What about
secret options? See you saw him on the broadcast before.
Daniel Jones is there? What if Kevin Kevin O'Connell thinks
he can fix him? But Sam, it's thirty some odd
million or whatever from somebody else.

Speaker 3 (20:30):
How about that? I can make it work with anybody.
Just give me Daniel Jones. We're all good. Uh, joining
us now in the hotline.

Speaker 1 (20:35):
We'll kick things off with that longtime NFL inside or
friend of the show, Jason lock and For. He's on
Twitter at Jason.

Speaker 3 (20:41):
Lock and For.

Speaker 1 (20:42):
Check him out on Odyssey one oh five seven the
Fan in Baltimore, Washington, Post Jay, what's happening, man?

Speaker 3 (20:47):
How are you? Oh? We got Jays?

Speaker 5 (20:57):
I'm good man. How are you guys?

Speaker 1 (21:00):
You know we're just sitting here talking about what the
future could hold here for Minnesota. You know, Darnold's going
to finish this year with all kinds of numbers, and hey,
look at him, and he's been the number one free
agency quarterback.

Speaker 3 (21:10):
What do the Vikings do?

Speaker 1 (21:12):
I mean, you have JJ McCarthy. You might have to
pay him, have to franchise Sam darn like what happens?

Speaker 5 (21:16):
You know?

Speaker 3 (21:17):
How do the Vikings solve this?

Speaker 5 (21:19):
I think he gets tranchise tags. I mean, I think
they try to work a deal out after the season.
I'm not sure if they're going to be able to
because to your point, there's nothing out there and he's
going to be in a great spot and I think
they'll tag him, you know, and if the non exclusive

(21:39):
tag leads to two first round picks or whatever, so
be it. But I or they just you know, exclusive
tag them and go year to year in that way.
But I think as successful as this has been, you know,
and they've done this sort of before, right with case Kingum,
and I just don't know that you the guy walk,

(22:00):
I think that's a really bitter pill to swallow for
the entire organization, and to go with the third starting
quarterback for a third straight year. And we saw what
it looked like, you know, when Cousins got hurt last year,
and they're trying to pack it together with different people.
I mean they've said some salary in recent years, the

(22:21):
Jefferson deals done. I don't know why you would go
backwards at that position. And the head coach is a
former quarterback. These guys are multi billionaires. I mean, this
stadium is making the money hand over fist, like whatever.
The figure is thirty million, whatever. It's not like on
a franchise tag. You're making some two hundred million dollar

(22:41):
commitment and pay as you go is an ideal. I
get it, but it also bids you time to get
something done before the next season starts, where the player starts,
you know, really worrying about getting injured or what have you.
It is a tremendous, maybe the most tremendous tool that
these teams have at their disposal, and this collective buy game,
and I just don't see them not using it.

Speaker 4 (23:04):
So we have the mild high ankle sprained is how
Patrick mahomes injury has been described. Carson Wentstein for Kansas
City perhaps here as we come down the stretch.

Speaker 5 (23:16):
I know he's got superhuman ankles and he's you know,
had six different ankle sprains and never missed any time.
But I just at some point the football guys aren't
going to wink back at him, right, Like, at some
point it's going to something's going to happen in one
of these games, or something's going to happen in one
of these situations that you know throws a wrinkle. And

(23:40):
what has been you know to this point, I don't know,
like Foxborough two point zero, So I don't know why
you would risk this year, Like I just it wouldn't
make any sense to me to play him in this
game knowing you're turning around and playing again on Wednesday,
and maybe even that Christmas Day game ends up being

(24:03):
too you know, too much too soon. But after what
they've done to win these games and build this up
to then risk not having Patrick Mahomes coming out of
that buy. And look, you could tell me what you
lose the buy, And I say, if the box and
still have Patrick Mahome, I like their chances to go

(24:24):
back to the super Bowl. So I mean, short week,
the forecast doesn't look great. I mean, they can afford
to lose a game, I think. And again and if
it means they have to go to Buffalo and they
don't get to buy, I we just saw them do
that last year, So no, I would I would think

(24:49):
he sits this game out and then we see about
Christmas Day. But stranger things have happened.

Speaker 1 (24:56):
NFL Inside of Jason Locking for our guest Jason Smith,
Mike Harmon Life and the Time dot Com Studios. We
saw some big games yesterday. We watched the Josh Allen
Show over the Lions. We watched the Eagles win again
over the Pittsburgh Steelers. You know, now they've won forty
in a row and they're fighting each other. Are the
Eagles the best team in football right now?

Speaker 5 (25:17):
They might be? I mean they might be. They beat
the Steelers at their own game. They didn't run the
ball over like overly effectively, but they ran it forty
two times, and they played keep away the final ten
minutes of the game, and they had almost forty minutes

(25:38):
a time of possession and they had you know, bad
turnover luck or whatever. Maybe you make your own luck,
but inferior special teams and inferior turnover ratios until Nasei Harris,
you know, intervened, and I mean he just don't see
the Steelers get bullied like that very often. And Jalen

(26:01):
Hurt kicked them apart downfield, which has been a real
problem for them, and both their number one receivers got
at least ten targets and they both went over one
hundred yards receiving, and they both had a receiving touchdown.
So yeah, I mean, maybe a little bit drama suits them.

(26:21):
I guess you know, what's a little bit, what's just right?
What's too much? When does it bleed over and become
too much of a side show. Certainly we've seen that
there as well. But I mean they've won what ten
straight now, They've played some good teams. They've had some
opportunities to slip up and lose one like that Carolina game,

(26:44):
and they didn't. I do, you know, worry about that
offensive line and pass protection a little bit. I worry
about him holding the ball too long. I worry about
the busted finger he's got. I worry about their kicker.
But you can say the same thing or similar things
about a lot of teams in this league that haven't
won as many games and that aren't riding the same mojo,

(27:08):
and that don't have the talent that they have. And
that's the best defense in the NFL for me, And
I'm not sure it's all that close right now, and
that is often with subtle seasons and then decides who
advances and who doesn't in the postseason. So yeah, there's
real contender as anybody.

Speaker 4 (27:28):
Playing, as well as anybody in healthy right now. Meanwhile,
on the other side, we talk about the Detroit Lions
on the battle that they had and now losing more
members of the defense and they lose knuckles. So now
ed sonic and an empty spot. Is that the bridge
too far?

Speaker 5 (27:49):
Yeah, because you don't just lose your defense. You lose
the guy who's basically the extension of the defense on offense.
You lose your tone center, the guy who comes out
and gets fed at the beginning of every game, and
the guy you won't closing most games unless it's a
total blowout. It's the guy who and look, I love Gibbs.
Gibbs is a great back, and you could do. You know,

(28:09):
there are a lot of teams that don't have this luxury, obviously,
but to lose that tempo setter, tone cetter, their most
physical back, you know, their most physical player on offense.
At the same time, when all three levels of your
defense have been gutted and it's clear that They're going

(28:31):
to have trouble slowing people down in the best division
in football with so much competition, where even everything they've
done to this point, despite injury, still isn't enough to
guarantee they get the one seed. Yeah, I think they're
in a little bit of trouble.

Speaker 3 (28:49):
He's on Twitter at Jason lock and four.

Speaker 1 (28:51):
That is at Jason lock and four again check them out,
Honesty Washington Post one five seven the fan of Baltimore
Jay as always, buddy, appreciate it.

Speaker 5 (28:58):
Man.

Speaker 3 (28:59):
We'll talk to you next week.

Speaker 5 (29:00):
You have a great week, my pleasure guy.

Speaker 3 (29:02):
Thank you, thanks, James, would be good.

Speaker 1 (29:03):
You know, we'll get to the real issue for Detroit. Look,
everybody has injuries, as you know.

Speaker 3 (29:08):
I'm you know.

Speaker 1 (29:09):
We look, we interviewed David Montgomery and then he got hurt.
There might be our fault, fault, it might be our fault.

Speaker 6 (29:13):
It's not our fault.

Speaker 3 (29:15):
Just how's it just my fault? Are you going to
ask her about his diet again? I'm going to ask
that question. Hey, it's not my fight. We interviewed him,
he had a good interview with us and and unfortunately
got hurt. Like that's what happened when there's a part
of it that got really dark.

Speaker 1 (29:31):
I tried to make money for him. I tried to
make money and how did that end up? Okay, that
did not make him get hurt. It did not make
him get hurt.

Speaker 4 (29:39):
See, you have to ask the obvious extension question. Was
it the diet that eventually if you had eat and
some meat instead of it? Yet my dad used to
yell at about the late great Bill Walton all the time.

Speaker 1 (29:52):
Look, hey man, the lions have bigger fish to fry. Look,
the injury suck, and they do, but they have much
bigger fish to fry than worrying about. Okay, how do
we replace these young guys. I We'll get to that
coming up in a couple minutes. But first, a man
who has never eaten at Sonic Burger It's special delivery,

(30:14):
Steve the saga with what's trending?

Speaker 6 (30:15):
That's not true, shakes, I mean that counts his eating, right, Like, sure.

Speaker 3 (30:20):
Yeah, I know. Do you stay there and eat and
then leave or do you just you know, no, drive through? Okay,
all right, literally you stay in your car? Yeah, I think.

Speaker 6 (30:31):
Don't quote me, but I think that's how the terminology
came about. As your reference to Lions running back David
Montgomery is out for the year with a torn MCL.
He'll left surgery. Detroit defensive tackle Alee McNeil is out
for the season torn ACL. Lions defensive back Carlton Davis
will have surgery for a broken jaw. Kansas City Chiefs QB.
Patrick Mahomes as a high ankle sprain said to be mild.

(30:53):
He's weak to week. The Chiefs cut running back Clyde
Edwards Hilaire. There are two Monday night football games going on.
Apparently since firing Matt Eberflus, the Bears have been outscored
fifty eight to nineteen, including trailing at Minnesota with about
ten and a half minutes to go.

Speaker 3 (31:09):
Right now, Yeah, but what if.

Speaker 1 (31:09):
We were they outscored while they had Eberflus. Yeah, probably
seven to two.

Speaker 6 (31:16):
That sounds like the Mike Dicka skit all right, right, live.

Speaker 4 (31:19):
There Ditka and the bear busy yards when we have
Eberflus four three and thirty seven Ditka negative two?

Speaker 5 (31:29):
Oh.

Speaker 6 (31:29):
I thought the Vikings were playing against the mini Ditka
okay five hundreda Ohitka.

Speaker 3 (31:35):
But what if the Hurricanes name was Ditka okay.

Speaker 6 (31:37):
Minnesota up twenty to six in the fourth quarter against Chicago.
This tells you all you need to know about the
pass offense with Caleb Williams in company, and such as
that line in front of him he in the first half.
I saw a chart of his passes. Nearly every throw
he made throughout the first half was at the line
of scrimmage. Statistically, his average depth of tar was one

(32:01):
foot beyond the line of scrimmage in the first half.
He is over one hundred and fifty yards passing as
an earlier fumble from a sack. He is really feeling
a hit he took on the last drive. Vikings are
leading twenty to six against Chicago. It could be more because,
as you mentioned, Justin Jefferson, who had a first quarter touchdown,
dropped what could have been a second TD in the

(32:21):
first half. As for the other game, no need to
DVR this one. Atlanta is leading twelve three at Las
Vegas starting the fourth quarter of play. Notable that it's
only twelve to three, by the way, because the Raiders
have fallen behind by double digits in every game so
far this year, but not this one yet. Of course,
they only have about one hundred yards of offense with

(32:43):
Desmond Ritter x Falcon at quarterback. Aidan O'Connell not active
for the Raiders tonight due to his knee injury of
bone Bruce. The Raiders have lost nine in a row.
Falcons have lost four straight. Bijon Robinson eighty three yards
rushing for Atlanta. Wake Forest coach Dave Clausen resigned after
a let and seasons there. Former quarterback Michael Vick is
not a candidate for the Sacramento State coaching job, according

(33:05):
to the Sacramento b despite an ESPN report to the NBA.
Denver has one of the two late games and the
Nuggets are already a forty one twenty one at Sacramento
early second quarter. Clippers home game against Utah just starting
wins for Chicago and Cleveland, wins for Philadelphia and Detroit.
The Pistons won in overtime against Miami one twenty five

(33:26):
one twenty four triple double for Cad Cunningham including eighteen assists,
And don't forget the NBA Cup Final will be Tuesday
in Las Vegas.

Speaker 1 (33:34):
Man If Pistons have a big on side kick that
they were able to recover in the fourth, did they
have that they're able to know that they won this
kise Oh okay, I want to.

Speaker 3 (33:41):
Make sure it did not apply.

Speaker 6 (33:43):
NBA Cup Milwaukee, Oklahoma City tomorrow back t you ah
the Cup.

Speaker 3 (33:47):
The final is tomorrow. Get ready, get ready, let's go.

Speaker 1 (33:51):
Jayon Smith Mike Harmon live from the tyraq dot Com studios,
the Vikings on the doorstep and they have gone in
for another touchdown, a twenty six to six lead over
the Bears, extra point pending. Let's see, we had a
big celebration by Aaron Jones who did the Spider Man.

(34:13):
Cam Akers may do the I don't know, the the
Green Goblin.

Speaker 3 (34:16):
Maybe you do that like he's flying on the Sure Glider. Sure.

Speaker 4 (34:20):
Jefferson earlier did his tribute to Randy Moss. Good thoughts
to him and his recovery and his cancer battle. But yeah,
Akers finds the end zone to mock me even more so.

Speaker 3 (34:31):
Again. We'll have more on these games coming up next.

Speaker 1 (34:34):
But straight ahead, you want to know the one way
to stop the best player in the NFL.

Speaker 3 (34:42):
Right now, I got it, bearing, I got the answer.
That's next. It's right here, Jason and Mike Fox.

Speaker 2 (34:50):
Be sure to catch live editions of the Jason Smith
Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven
pm Pacific, Fox Radio.

Speaker 3 (35:00):
The Jason Smith Show with My best friend Mike Harmon.

Speaker 1 (35:04):
Vikings over the Bears twenty seven to six, nine to
go in the fourth quarter. Meanwhile, Vikings lead the Raiders
fifteen to three, twelve minutes to go in the fourth
quarter in a game also on television, also broadcast. I
guess at this point we could say both these games
are being broadcast.

Speaker 3 (35:22):
No, that's true. Yeah, there we go.

Speaker 1 (35:24):
Uh Now, this week we had two games that stood
out above the others, and number.

Speaker 3 (35:33):
One was the Bills and their big win over the Lions.

Speaker 1 (35:38):
And from the Bills perspective, Okay, Josh Allen really look
as much as I love Saquon Barkley, what Josh Allen's
done the last three.

Speaker 3 (35:46):
Weeks has just been inhuman.

Speaker 1 (35:48):
I mean, the guy he's these forty five Fantasy points
a week, like that's what he's doing.

Speaker 3 (35:52):
He's been absolutely insane.

Speaker 1 (35:54):
And this is why I say, and I've said for
a while and congratulates people who piggyback off, this is
that sometimes and I watch him play and I watch
certain drives, he looks like the best quarterback I've ever seen.
He looks absolutely unstoppable. And there's other times you watch
him and go, what's he thinking with that football? Wears
he going with it? But there's many more times now
and I look at him and say, he is absolutely unstoppable.

(36:16):
Whether he throws the football, runs it, it doesn't matter.
And yesterday the Bills got out to a fourteen nothing lead.
The Lions are kind of a little They've been starting
a little lazy the last few weeks. And you win
that many games row what happens and the Lions are
never able to overcome it. But it's a different Bills
team when Josh Allen is able to whether it's design

(36:37):
runs or semi design runs where hey drop back, but
if you don't see something take off, you know those
are those are the kinds of things that are just
backbreaking for defenses. And the Bill's offense is running at
such a high level right now, and it's really something
to watch that you lose your best receiver and it
doesn't matter. Your offen is the best, it's been the

(36:59):
best way in this kind of sounds really weird, and
but this is the best way that I would attack
the Bills right now, because the Bills right now are
playing better than anybody right the Bills and the Lions
up until yesterday, but the Bills and the Eagles. If
I'm a defense, I say, you know what, we got
to make Josh Allen one dimensional. We got to make

(37:19):
him throw the football. We have to be able to
not allow him to get outside and kill us running
the ball. And it's weird to say we got to
stop a quarterback from running first, but they need to
do that, make him throw the football from the pocket,
because while the Bills offense is still really really good,
it's not the unbeatable formation you have right now. How
many times have you seen plays where Josh Allen's picking

(37:40):
his way through the confidence level that he plays at.
When he's able to run the football like that, he's
on a different level. And you see, Josh Allen's a
great quarterback regularly, but when he's able to do that,
and he has a seven to eight carries seventy yards
nine carries whenever they need yards, he's able to do that,
that is exactly what makes him unbeatable. If you take

(38:01):
that away and you say, okay, we're gonna make you
throw the football to beat us. Whether it's we're gonna
keep you in the pocket, you know we're not. It's
about just making him back and throw, not being able
to blitz him in sacking. But we're gonna keep you
in the pocket and we're not gonna allow you to
run the football. If you do that, that's the best
way to try to slow the Bills offense down. They're
still gonna score, he's still gonna throw a touchdowns, still

(38:22):
gonna move the ball still, but they don't become this
video game like they've been the last few weeks. Like
if you can keep him in the pocket, nor of
a turnover, but keep him in the pocket where he
gets a little lancey, he tries to make more plays
because he can't make plays with his legs and turns
the ball over. That's the Josh Allen you want. And
if you can just keep him in the pocket throwing,

(38:42):
that's gonna be your best way out. I mean, it's
tough because there really is no way out right now
against the Bills, But you know, seeing the last few
weeks what this Bills offense has become, if you can
stop him from doing that, and I think you can,
he's not like a Lamar Jackson or you know, or
who can get outside the pocket. And his speed is
just insane. But he's someone where okay, you know where
he is at all times. You can keep them, keep

(39:02):
him in and keep them hemmed in. Then you can
have some more success. You have a better chance to
win the game.

Speaker 4 (39:07):
How long he's able to do it not sure, but
he has also one to lower the shoulder and run
through you for the extra yards, which is where that
comes into play. You look at the last four weeks,
three of those games he's gone into double digit carries.
Didn't have to do it against San Francisco that was
thirty five ten laugher. But you look at the games
against Kansas City, now against Detroit and going back to

(39:30):
that thriller against the Rams, you're into double digit carries.
He's got a streak of five games with at least
one touchdown rush rushing attempt. And that's the thing, right,
we joked about it forever, my mom's old save it
for good. Well, now he's winning time and what's he
doing keeping the ball in his hands. He's been very
efficient as a passer. We've discussed that all year long,
even without a true number one for a chunk of it.

(39:54):
Khalil Shakir now, Ty Johnson re emerges, Kincaid finally healthy,
which is a big hang a star on that because
he was supposed to be the breakout guy. If suddenly
he's able to be an eight to ten target a
week guy, the game changes immensely, working down the seams
and moving the chains. So all of that say, yeah,
you can try to contain him, but look at other contemporaries.

(40:17):
Right when you look at what Kyler Murray has done. Yeah,
they got a big win this week, but he hasn't
rushed for more than twenty one yards but once in
the last seven weeks. Right, they've taken that element of
his game away. So he's had to become more pure
passer to mixture results because we've seen them get dominated
by the Seahawks going to that measure. Whereas Josh Allen

(40:39):
right now the world's his.

Speaker 1 (40:41):
Yeah, I mean, look, there's not a lot. You gotta
do something and trying to Okay, we're gonna, we're gonna try.

Speaker 3 (40:46):
To stay on on this.

Speaker 1 (40:47):
If they run this, we're gonna And he's just saying,
I'm playing at such a high level right now, that's
the only thing you can do is let him throw
the football. Hope he turns it over. Hope he gets
a little bit frustrated because he does that. He really
wants to make plays, and he makes those. Bet He
gives you chances. He gives you two or three passes
a game where hey, this could be ours right here.
But that's really the only strategy right now. I mean,

(41:09):
it's the best one, but it's the only one.

Speaker 4 (41:11):
Gotta make plays. Going back to October sixth, only one
l hung on him.

Speaker 1 (41:16):
Exit out about a Fresco Mike hat swollen dome coming
up next week into two of the biggest stories coming
off a week fifteen in the NFL. This is Fox
if nobody else they want to put in a quarterback,
are now going to attempt to drive With Desmond Ritter
finally completing his first pass of the night to a
wide receiver. There are five minutes to go in the

(41:37):
fourth quarter and he's just completed the first pass to
a wide receiver all night. Jacobi Meyers finally catches a
pass and I don't know, Raider fans have to be
a little bit unsure here because it's a game they
could potentially still win at you know, fifteen to three.
But the big tank for Shador signs that are everywhere
they keep showing at the stadium, and they keep showing

(42:00):
Tom to lets up there, like what are they waiting
for Telesco to say something like? Yeah, like they showed
the tank for the tank for Shador signed and plus
it's gonna go yeah tank for Like he's gonna hold
it up himself at one point to.

Speaker 3 (42:14):
Hold it up. Yeah, I just put the sign up.
Do you think he's doodling? He's just drawing pictures.

Speaker 4 (42:20):
Of what look like he's doing AI on his phone
at sketch What what what do you do with Tom?

Speaker 1 (42:27):
Well, I'm actually on on Etsy right now. I'm designing
a great alternate Shudor Sanders Raiders Jersey.

Speaker 4 (42:33):
What was that thing where you had the guy where
you manipulated the metal to beards and hairstyles and whatever.

Speaker 3 (42:42):
That's oh yeah, yeah, sure y gotta pass though. Yeah.
Desmond Ritter has.

Speaker 1 (42:50):
Been absolutely awful tonight. And you see Aidan O'Connell is
in is in uniform, Jim Plunkett is in uniform, Ken
Stabler's in uniform, Darryl Lamonica is in uniform.

Speaker 3 (43:00):
No, no, no, this is what we're going with. Well
there we're going right.

Speaker 4 (43:02):
They went to the formation early on and got the
ball in Didjacobe Meers hands? And you're like another wide
receiver throw like we've seen so many teams try. I'm
looking at you, Ad nine Mitchell, but Myers didn't throw
the ball. But at some point you know it's the
old Hey he was once a quarterback. Thing can't be
any worse than what you've seen.

Speaker 1 (43:23):
Look, there is no better fit and no bet like
that makes more sense than Shador Sanders to the Raiders, right,
because whatever it is, Dion can wait a couple of
years and say, oh, I'll go, oh we're not winning,
and you go, you know, my kids got a big
contract that y'all come in and coach.

Speaker 3 (43:38):
They don't need to go together. It's fine.

Speaker 1 (43:39):
Dean Sanders can stay and Antonio Piers can have another year,
But really does is there anything that makes more sense
than than Chador Sanders In the glitz and glamour of Vegas.
He's the most high profile quarterback in the game. He's polarizing.
You love him, Oh, I wish he would do this.
I wish you wouldn't throw his offensive line under the bus.
It comes with Dion on because Dion's gonna be like

(44:01):
LeVar Ball. But like time's fifty, Like there's no better
fit that you want to see. What's the most entertaining
fit you could possibly see. Shaudur Sanders Raiders quarterback. There's
nothing else like that's it. That's the one that's the
fit right there, nowhere else anybody other quarterbacks. Yeah, Shaudur
Sanders Raiders. And they are, you know, a couple of
games away for potentially moving up enough to have that happen.

Speaker 4 (44:22):
About that, you look at it when when you get
to the marketing and sales and everything that is the
the Raiders and go to the brand.

Speaker 3 (44:32):
Certainly, uh and their history right.

Speaker 4 (44:36):
Being a little bit of a renegade, a little bit
out there, I mean, that's a but Dion Sanders's preached
and certainly Shaudor has taken a little of that on
in his comments to the press and the personality and
and let's face it, folks picked aside in that battle
last year, and no matter what they did or didn't
do this year, they stayed there. It's been a little quieter,

(44:59):
but certainly Colorado a fantastic season.

Speaker 3 (45:01):
And for sure door everything you could.

Speaker 4 (45:04):
You could have made the argument, come he finished eighth
and high this Heisman voting, but look at look at
the big games.

Speaker 3 (45:12):
That he had all year long.

Speaker 4 (45:14):
Offensive line was better and they got something out of
the run game at least for a couple of weeks
before it ended up being back on his arm. So
all of that to say, yeah, it's a marriage that
rights itself. I mean, how many times will you see
him on the side of the sphere before it's done?

Speaker 5 (45:28):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (45:29):
I put him on there now holiday display.

Speaker 1 (45:34):
No, just just show all of his Colorado highlights and
showed Dion press conferences on the sphere.

Speaker 3 (45:39):
Sure, why not?

Speaker 4 (45:40):
I do like that the Raider fans headgear gets more
and more elaborate. Yeah, yeah, no, that is true. So
that's where we sit right now. Touchdown Raiders Mira Abdula
is in for a yard touchdown pass. So now it's
a fifteen to nine game because of course the Raiders
missed the extra pull. Still with three minutes left to go.

(46:02):
We'll have more on this game and more on the
end of the Vikings and the Bears twenty seven to twelve,
just under three minutes left to go in that one.
But we talked about the Bills aspect the side of
winning things yesterday, and clearly the Lions didn't.

Speaker 3 (46:17):
Just lose a game yesterday.

Speaker 1 (46:18):
They lost a lot, you know, just when they were
getting their their defensive line back healthy. Now they've lost
more players for the season, likely David Montgomery with a
knee injury, and he's going to miss the rest of
the way. So no knuckles with Sonic and knuckles your fault, Listen,
we talked, we talked to Okay, okay, no no one
from the Lions will ever talk to us again.

Speaker 3 (46:38):
But it's not my fault. We had David montem and
team that you've sent away.

Speaker 1 (46:44):
But this is tough because I got to go home
and see my wife's family in a week and twice
he's blanked the Lions.

Speaker 3 (46:52):
Yeah, no, sorry about that guy. I don't know.

Speaker 4 (46:54):
It's not me going back to last year when you
picked him to win at all and that didn't happen.

Speaker 3 (46:59):
And now David Montgomery comes on, gives us a few minutes.

Speaker 4 (47:02):
Now he's hurting you suggest how he's gonna make his money,
you know, pitching burgers.

Speaker 3 (47:08):
I didn't know he was a vegan. I said, do it.
I said, do it.

Speaker 1 (47:11):
How about you and Jamior Gibbs do some sort of
event at Sonic for the judge and sign and sign
autographs and make money.

Speaker 3 (47:18):
And he said, I don't know about that. I didn't
know he was a vegan. It's okay.

Speaker 1 (47:21):
Certain things I need to know about players to be
able to talk about I don't need to know that
he's a vegan.

Speaker 3 (47:26):
It's okay, it's fine. And I just said.

Speaker 1 (47:27):
I didn't say go eat a burger. I just said, hey, no,
it wasn't like Steve de Seger said he goes a
Sonic and that shakes only.

Speaker 3 (47:38):
Only. No, No, that's I don't think that. I don't
think that it was not true.

Speaker 1 (47:41):
That is not It might be they wouldn't do it
if they asked him.

Speaker 3 (47:44):
No into my ship? Yeah, what the hell was with the.

Speaker 4 (47:48):
Number of combinations that they claim they can give you
from the beverage carousel?

Speaker 3 (47:53):
Then yeah, whatever you want, if that was a thing
you'd have in IVY. Oh, I don't know. Man burger shakes,
I don't know that. I might have to go try
that one. That's tough.

Speaker 1 (48:02):
I mean, although like my protein, I'll tell you I
was intrigued this weekend, Giada de Laurentis put this thing out,
chocolate pasta. I was like, ooh, now it doesn't sound good.
But Giada, if you're gonna make that and tell me
it's good, I'll try.

Speaker 4 (48:17):
That chocolate pasta because that's in the next iteration of
things for me is actually to learn to make homemade
chocolate pasta.

Speaker 1 (48:23):
How much cheese are you putting on your chocolate pasta?
Oh wow, I'm putting chocolate flavored cheese on my pasta.
It's chocolate pasta with chocolate flavored cheese or cheese flavored chocolate.
So the one just put chocolate into the cheese grater.
Say when there's like like two favorite things in the
world of chocolate and cheese, the two favorite things, two
things I can't have on this blimp and diet, then

(48:45):
I'm doing ah, but yeah, chocolate and cheese. Man, Chocolate
and cheese is like that kid that ate everything in
want chocolate cheese.

Speaker 3 (48:51):
Yeah, And then then I fell into the chocolate river.
That was chocolate. It stuck in the tube.

Speaker 1 (48:57):
But while it sucks for the Lions obviously missing players,
David Montgomery's gonna be a blow, it'll be more for
Jamir Gibbs. They have a bigger issue because this is
the part of the year teams lose players. It happens, right.
Dan Campbell even said it today. Look, we know it's
an opportunity for somebody else to step up. This is
the unavoidable part of the NFL. Guys get hurt late

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in the season. It sucks, but everybody's dealing with injuries
like this. It sucks you lose David Montgomery, but Jamir
gives us a better running back. The thing you gotta
worry about is what have we talked about the big
thing for the Lions all season long. You gotta worry
about campbelling because Dan Campbell is gonna make the wrong
decision at the wrong time because of his hubris or emotion,

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and it's gonna kill the Lions at the absolute worst time.
We talked about the decisions about going for it on
fourth them. Yeah, when it works out, great, But Nick All, first,
all fourth down going forward conversions are not created equal,
and doing it week eleven against the Bears or the
Packers as much differ than saying, hey, we've done it
all year, let's do it in the second half of

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the NFC championship game. You cast yourself a trip to
the Super Bowl.

Speaker 3 (50:06):
Last year.

Speaker 1 (50:06):
They've gone for it un fourth down a few times,
and it's worked out a couple of times for them. Yesterday,
the big on side kick with over ten minutes left
in the game. I get you can't stop the Buffalo
Bills offense, but you had hit a little bit of
a You had to stop him at some point because
you know you're down two scores and he goes for
the on side kick and the Bills I only get it.

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They would turn it down to the three yard line.
They're in for a touchdown to play later and the
Lions still never caught up. Campbell talked about it after.
He said, yeah, if I had known.

Speaker 3 (50:35):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (50:36):
I don't know that I would do that play again.
But this is the real danger for the Lions. The
Lions are a great football team. I don't care they
lost yesterday. They had been a little bit of fat
cat syndrome. See I did their cat Lions a little
bit of fat cat syndrome where they had kind of
shown up for some games. When you win a lot
of games in a row, sometimes you don't. You don't
come out with the energy you need, and that certainly
has been the case with the Lions, and that was

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cast him yesterday. They came out a little flat, the
Bills up fourteen to nothing, and from then on the
game was even, but the Lions could never get back
that bad start they had. So that's gonna happen. I'm
okay with that, that's what we're gonna go. But Dan
Campbell making those decisions again because of hubris, because we
always do it this way, because it's all created equal,
or it's a gut feeling, these are the things that

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get you crushed in big games that matter, and I'm
saying this is for the Lions. We're gonna be talking
about this in January. And you really think we're not
gonna be talking about the Lions going home because Dan
Campbell made a really ridiculously risky decision that didn't go
their way. Tell me that's not gonna be how the
Lion season ends. With the Monday after the playoff game,

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being boy, I don't know what Dan Campbell was thinking
on that.

Speaker 3 (51:42):
That's exactly how the Lion season is gonna end.

Speaker 4 (51:44):
Well, as it stands now, they're gonna end up getting bullied.
So it's not gonna matter no matter what their identity
has been. They don't have enough bodies defensively because the
war of attrition at this point, throw the damn towel
if the Lions now, I'll defend the on side kick decision,
even though it's this dopey rule where you have to

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declare it in all which is about as dumb as
the ghost runner in baseball. When it's all said and done,
and we've seen the level of effectiveness, what is it
six point eight percent or something actually being converted, you
needed to keep your defense off the field at that point.
That was as much as anything of not only can

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you not stop Josh Allen, you need those guys to
be off the field for two minutes to get some
semblance of strength back whatever the old video game analogy
of getting your power bar back. But for Dan Campbell,
I'm just fearful you don't have enough bodies playing this

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iteration of what the Eagles put at you. They're a
better defense dog with Jason locking for a last hour,
we've watched what the Philly defense has been able to
do for going on what two months. You lost Brandon Graham,
But otherwise you're healthy able to play. Yeah, they're throwing
punches and fighting, and Mike Tomlin's mad. But all of

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that to say, they've been sticking it to other teams
and the offensive line. While not as stout necessarily at
every turn as they've been in the past with the
loss of Kelsey and others, they've more than held their own.

Speaker 3 (53:22):
And even in a game where.

Speaker 4 (53:24):
Saquon Barkley's held down, you're able to pass the ball effectively.
What you knew was gonna happen, right, All you need
to do is create enough noise.

Speaker 3 (53:33):
Like I'll show you. And sure enough, they actually all
went to the podium and said, is that enough for you?
Is what you want? Are you not entertained?

Speaker 4 (53:42):
Yeah, you took the bait. But that's the thing I
think at this point is from a matchup standpoint, they're
also at a disadvantage whereby in the weeks leading up
to this against division opponents, body blow, body blow, body blow,
and then you were down for the count. And it's
only a regular season game. But I think it poor

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tends to bigger issues because you just don't have the
physicality that you can match with some of these other
front runs.

Speaker 5 (54:10):
Now.

Speaker 1 (54:11):
But look, but here's the thing. If you're playing at home,
and you're playing in a comfortable environment and you can
have some time to figure things out, that's going to
alay a lot of fears you're gonna play one less game.
If you have home field advantage, that's gonna help you,
not get bullets, gonna help you the physical.

Speaker 3 (54:26):
Part of it.

Speaker 1 (54:27):
But look, but that's something that when when when it
comes to this point in the year in the NFL,
you know, a lot of teams have to deal to
who knows who's coming in. Maybe a team's coming in
to play that can bully them, but maybe not. Maybe
it's another team that to plays finesse.

Speaker 4 (54:39):
And I'm just saying where we stand right now, I mean, wait,
it's not like, look at a month from now, how
many guys come back healthy and what you're putting out
on the defensive end not sure? And what's left in
Philly right or Minnesota for that matter, is still up
for debate. But Dan Campbell has made the fourth down,
and Campbell the identity of the squad.

Speaker 1 (55:01):
Tell tell me the season is not gonna end with
us on a Monday night going I can't believe that
insert decision X, that was emotional and really made at
the wrong time by Dan Campbell. I can't believe that
decision cost them the game and cost them so that's
how it might also

Speaker 3 (55:18):
Be the voodoo doll you had with David Montgomery.