December 17, 2024 • 41 mins
Jason and Mike update both Monday Night Football games. Longtime NFL Insider Jason La Canfora swings by. Jason explains why the Vikings have no choice other than to franchise tag Sam Darnold. Plus, they key for slowing down MVP candidate Josh Allen!
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there is having a touchdown get taken off the board
because of penalty, and then there's having a touchdown taking
off the board because of a penalty because the player
didn't report in. The Bears looked like they were gonna
have their deficit to the Minnesota Vikings thirteen nothing. Bears
(01:14):
finally have a nice little drive going DeAndre Swift in
the end zone. However, Bears had an offensive lineman come
out and play fullback.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
One problem.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
Dan Campbell will tell you you got to report, You
gotta come in. You gotta tell the officials. Hey, I'm eligible.
And you can see the replay. He just went right
into the huddle.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
Nobody told him what to do. Didn't tell me, nobody
told nobody told into the huddle, lined up as a
full back. Hey, touchdown Bears. Nope, pulled off the board.
The Bears, of course, cannot get in the end zone
after that, wind up kicking a field goal, so it
could have been. Hey, thirteen to seven, Bears are somehow
in this game?
Speaker 4 (01:52):
I did?
Speaker 1 (01:52):
Is still a ten point lead? Yeah for the Vikings,
swift stopped at the one. On a subsequent run you
had and another airmail from Caleb Williams. He had a
couple on that drive of would have could have shoot
of balls. And then yeah, once again, the offensive line
at the goal line, uh comes into play. We saw
(02:13):
it weeks ago on the infamous Hey, let's give it
to alignment instead of running Roshan Johnson. Well, Johnson's not
available for goal line work now, so let's bring a
guy in as a Blocker and you watched the Three
Man you know, kind of like it's the end of
Star Wars as they go into Alignment to try to
(02:33):
destroy Luke Skywalker and company. Instead. Yeah, here's a penalty.
Good job by job by the Bears. I mean, it
was a good run play, It really was. He never
even looked at the office, and he and he and
he Dedre Swift. It was air for him. However, However,
(02:55):
here's the thing. This game tonight is is everything you
can complain about the Bears all season in one three
hour window. It is Caleb Williams missing open wide receivers.
It is the Bears defense not being able to cover
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anybody for a long time. I can't believe Sam Darnold
had any incomplete passes because there was all kinds of
separation on every single play. There's ridiculously bad coaching decisions.
Let's go forward fourth and one and pitch it to
DeAndre Swift.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
That didn't work.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
Okay, Let's go for it again on fourth and one,
give it to DeAndre Swift.
Speaker 3 (03:34):
That should do it.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
With the DeAndre Swift on fourth down plays, Let's get them.
Let's excize them from the playbook. This is everything with
the Bears in one three hour window. And of course
right now the cherry on top of the Sunday the
touchdown that gets pulled off the board because Lineman failed
to report it. Oh no, all of it's beautiful. Man
defense has done the job as much as you can.
(03:55):
Just thirteen points allowed. Stevenson once spawn a time, the
guy waving and yelling at the crowd on the Hail
Mary play against the Commanders. He's got an interception, so
you got that going for you. But otherwise, just another
non non descript effort. And you know, Thomas Brown in
his audition, it's a fail at every turn, just like
(04:18):
we said it was going to be.
Speaker 3 (04:19):
You know, hey, look he got elevated.
Speaker 4 (04:21):
Look at it.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
He goes up several levels in eighteen days. And what's
that done for you? The last two weeks you had
fifty seven yards combined into first halves, fifty seven combined.
This week not much better. Caleb Williams throwing for one
hundred and twenty two yards. At this point, you're leading receiver,
as Roma Dune say, he's got thirty nine yards. You
know it's you know, I look at Caleb Williams and
(04:44):
I'm gonna make a really great cinematic comparison. Oh, let's go, dude,
he wish you had Caleb there is.
Speaker 3 (04:51):
We'll get him next year. Where shoe.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
We'll get Caleb Williams next year. It'll be fine. Iber
Flus will be our head coach. It'll be great.
Speaker 3 (04:56):
You're getting a dude from Florida's Day Djo.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
We're not no, we're not getting declared. After seven years,
he is declared. He's been with four different programs.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
No, no, no, no, no no no.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
It's we're gonna have the Tennessee Can He's gonna be
Robinson and Vrabel and that's what's gonna be actual.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
He's kind of got the.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
Same career as Juan Sota, right, four teams and seven years,
a little bit, a little bit better, uh, a little
bit better track record one. So it's just a lot older, better,
a little bit better. No, not a lot older. Come on,
stop man. The oldest he could be is thirty. All right,
So here's a stop.
Speaker 3 (05:30):
Here's the thing.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
Okay, this is watching Caleb Williams play, and you see,
I don't know quite he knows what he sees, what
he's looking for downfield yet, but you can see the
talent is there, the arm talent is there? A strain
certainly there all the remember in uh In Butch Cassidy
and the Sundance Kid when Sundance wants to show that
he can shoot and he's trying to show Butch Cassidy
(05:51):
and he starts shooting. He's missing everything and he goes,
how are you missing everything? And and sun Dance goes,
can I move? He goes, yeah, sure, and so that says.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
A barrel roll.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
And he's hitting and he's knocking everything over and he's moving,
He's doing all kinds of stuff.
Speaker 3 (06:05):
He's on he's on his but he's on his knee.
He's hitting everything.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
Like you watch Caleb Williams and the plays where he
is the freest, where he is absolutely at his best,
our plays when he's outside the pocket. When he gets
outside the pocket and extends plays, he finds the right receiver.
You just watched a great broken play on this last
drive where Williams looked like he was out of time
and he suddenly comes back across and finds Romo Donze.
(06:30):
I mean, this is why I would I would call
everything to get him outside the pocket. I get him
outside the pocket. As much as possible. I would call
plays specifically to break down. Hey, listen, hey, just let
your uh, let the let the blitzer come in. I mean,
don't let him come all the way in, but let
him come and just give him a little bit be
want to get Caleb outside the pocket and want to
get him doing something to because he is moving. When
he is when he's moving, he makes those throws. It's
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the throws in the pocket, it's it's the gimmes. It's
the Hey, this is a five step drop and keenan
Allen's standing five yards past the first down marker and
he's white and you miss him by by four yards.
Speaker 3 (07:02):
You know that that Those are the throws that I
look at, Go what is he doing?
Speaker 1 (07:06):
Like the easy, the gimme stuff to get like, that's
the stuff he struggles with the heart of the more
difficult stuff. The hey, making the play, extending the play.
That's the stuff he's really good at. And that stuff
he you know, he's come in you can't teach. I
would I would call all kinds of plays like that.
When when he can move, he's a different quarterback. But
in the pocket, when he's got to make a throw,
it's dude, you got to just execute these easy throws sometimes. Well,
(07:27):
it was the same thing we watched with justin fields
before it improvisation on the on the move, but also
designed rollouts which are not there. And the last drive
you talk about the arm strength and the ability to
throw that frozen rope to Adnze to get the first
down and keep the drive alive. You had another play
whereby you know he's going to make the throw down
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the sideline and he overshoots the receiver by seven yards
who had several yards of separation safety had and rotated over.
Should have been an easy seven points. Instead it falls
harmlessly and it's off the field. He's not even falling
incomplete in the field to play. It's it's shot well
over uh, the receiver and the field and not even
(08:13):
giving him a chance to go out and make a play.
And that's the thing you're seeing time and time again
from this Bears offense, not having Johnson in the run
game when you've got let's call it what it is,
it's a bad offensive line. And Ryan Poles, what did
he play in the National Football League? You know this
one to have to the button? Yeah, hit a button,
(08:33):
no deal, No deal. No, it's so exciting deal or
no deal Antonio benderz no deal that you don't need
to hit the button.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
But I'm so excited.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
Offensive line, that is what is he really failed that?
Evaluating Jason again?
Speaker 3 (08:53):
Yeah, no deal fail Jason offensive Line.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
You brought a guy in three years, thirty million dollars,
you cut him. What are the reports this guy was
no good and didn't fit. You hired Eberfluse, your brain
trust everybody what was happening And we'd seen this report before,
but it's cycled up again this week. They colts were
going to fire him, that he was gonna get fired,
(09:21):
and you hired him as your headman. All of that
to say, it's been one disaster AFT or another. Now
he's an empty suit being puppeteered by Kevin Warren. And
you know, Thomas Brown did some great things. You saw
some growth in the offense. What's the thing you don't
want to do? Hey, let's add a bunch of responsibility.
Right when your offense is starting to at least look
(09:43):
like some semblance of a cohesive unit, and what you've
seen from the last couple of weeks, whatever the final
point totals are or whatever, don't kid yourself. You've watched
a train wreck week after week after week, and tonight
it's thirteen to three, so somebody will want to hang
their hat. Oh look, what a great effort this was. No,
you're three hundred and eighty five days removed from your
(10:05):
last road win for a reason. Meanwhile, and you know
this if you're a fan of one of the two teams,
or if you are fantasy playoffs or coming on two
Monday night games. Tonight, the Falcons lead the Raiders. Another
field goal for the Falcons. It is now twelve to.
Speaker 3 (10:22):
Three, not really a game. Can we volder on this
crap and make it actually one?
Speaker 4 (10:26):
Good? Gay?
Speaker 3 (10:27):
Is there a way to do that? No, it's I
don't wow, I don't know.
Speaker 4 (10:30):
Man.
Speaker 3 (10:30):
Can we let the Vikings play the Falcons and take
the other two home?
Speaker 5 (10:34):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (10:34):
Yeah, yeah, that is true. That is true. At least
we didn't get Bears Raiders like that would have been something.
Or you dump out of it and you show Adam
Schefter's three for three hours.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
Oh boy, yeah, the Adam Schefter, Doug Gottlieb. That is
that has been that has been a thing, that has
been a thing tonight. So yeah, man, like we call
what it is. We're reporting news and discussion points along
the way. The Falcons lead the Raiders twelve to three,
nine minutes to go in the third quarter. There was
(11:03):
a safety in that game though, Yeah, yeah, I had
a block punt.
Speaker 3 (11:07):
You had a safety.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
Like if you like low scoring games that you don't
really need to pay as much attention to because it's
the holidays and other things are going on and you
want to be able to check in once in a while,
this is your game, Like, this is absolutely the game
you want right any case, middle of the third quarter, now,
Kirk Cousins seven out of eleven eighty four yards, a
(11:30):
touchdown and an interception Desmond Ridder seven out of eleven
for fifty nine yards.
Speaker 3 (11:38):
Yay, that's a lot of offense right there. A lot offense.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
A lot offense how being displayed by shud or Saints
right almost there, you know, ho most there the Falcons
trying to stay in the the periphery of the playoff race,
and Kirk Cousins clearly is someone who you know, desperately
trying to hold on was job for as long as
(12:01):
he can. Yeah, and you know, winning tonight obviously if
they if they hold lot to win. It's the races
they hold. They'd be seven and seven and they'd be
in the thick of it. He'd be in the thick
of it. So I feel pretty good by giving. By
by going here is that if the Falcons win tonight,
Kirk Cousin stays the quarterback the rest of the season
because they will be within shouting distance of a playoff spot.
(12:24):
It might come down to the last week where they
where they're up to there to win to get eliminated.
But being seven and seven, they're still in it and
they won't make that move to Michael Pennix, uh, probably
until next year. How terrible are they that they actually
swept the season series with a pretty good Tampa Bay team. Yeah,
and everybody else, Yeah, Tragbady's beating everybody else playing well.
(12:46):
We'll talk about them as we go on final three
games for the Falcons at the Giants, at the Commanders,
and then home against the upstart Carolina Panthers. So we'll
keep you updated on both of these games. Remember, it
is the Fantasy football playoffs, and there's still two of
two seventy yes, and it is the playoffs, Fantasy playoffs
(13:07):
that means that's my putting it out there from what
you gotta keep cursing at Caleb Williams, like Caleb Williams
and Dj Moore and the Vikings defense and Jacoby Myers
who still.
Speaker 3 (13:16):
Hasn't caught a pass, still hasn't caught a pass. It's
like nineteen points a week. He hasn't caught a pass.
All right, Fantasy are the only playoffs you ever see
in your world? Oh yeah, dude, that's the all go.
I haven't seen Jeff Sport square point.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
I haven't seen Jeff did I even did I even
know you the last time that Jets made the play though,
I don't know if I knew any of you.
Speaker 3 (13:35):
I did go to a Jets charge your game with you.
If you did, that was pretty sweet. I know it wasn't.
Speaker 1 (13:39):
Gino Smith was the quarterback in that game. Uh So
keep you updated on these games again, thirteen three and
twelve three.
Speaker 3 (13:47):
So they're keeping the scores close.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
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Speaker 3 (15:10):
A mashup with Slayer Slayer mashup?
Speaker 4 (15:13):
No?
Speaker 3 (15:15):
Oh, this is actually the straight song. It's Mary. She's
playing the real glass. Yeah, she went to the reel.
I don't even know there was a Slayer version. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
No, Mary, and tonight, instead of tight Shirt, we get
the actual holiday music. Ty Shirt has the Here's the
Paul McCartney Slayer version. I did a concert yesterday that
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We're live at the direc dot Com Studios. Jason Smith,
Mike Harmon.
Speaker 5 (15:47):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (15:47):
The Vikings are in the end zone. Aaron Jones with
a touchdown and.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
He does a Spider Man celebration, hangs on the railing,
turns does the Spider Man.
Speaker 3 (16:00):
May get twenty to three. Vikings with the lead.
Speaker 1 (16:02):
Late in the third quarter, Bears have the football completed
past the DJ Moore puts them across midfield, but it
is a twenty to three. Vikings lead meanwhile twelve three. Yeah,
Falcons lead the Raiders in a game that is also
being broadcast?
Speaker 4 (16:18):
Is that right?
Speaker 1 (16:18):
So I said that the right would say not in
a game that is also being broadcast on national television,
the alternate broadcast. They're doing everything they can to do
picture and picture of the Bears Viking game. If anything
remotely interesting happens, it's covering up two thirds of the screen.
Speaker 4 (16:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (16:34):
I like on the on the on the Raiders game,
the bug that says, hey, live on live on ABC
is the is.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
The Bears and the Vikings and really really really really
tiny can barely even see it as.
Speaker 3 (16:46):
Hey, you know, yeah, the other channel is Falcons Raiders.
Speaker 1 (16:48):
That's up there too, Raders. Yeah, it's there if you're interested. Yeah,
I mean if you want. I mean, you know you
don't have to obviously, but I mean, yeah, hey, listens,
good thing you're not trying to run an alternate red zone.
Yeah no, no, no, no, no, no, bad for everybody.
Speaker 3 (17:00):
Listen.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
If you're doing he's kicked his feet up and he's
taking an as if you're absolutely not doing anything, hey,
turn that game on, all right, I mean, if you
have nothing else going, you'll that's what it'll be. You
know what the alternate programming should have been, what's up
the e Cup final? H So we're gonna have Jason
locking Forward coming up in a little bit here Again,
(17:22):
we still have the both games happening going to the
fourth quarter. Now, let's talk about Sam Darnald here for
a second. Oh, let's all right, because here the Vikings, look,
they're in control here against the Bears, are gonna get
another w. And of all the teams in the NFC, look,
with the Lions had a big loss, the Eagles had
a big win. Eventually, I mean, I'm not but eventually
(17:42):
people are gonna start believing in the Vikings as as
huge contenders. But Donald is someone who clearly has shown that, hey,
in the right situation, I can be the guy you
drafted me to be right, And he looked like he
started to slow down a little bit middle of the season.
I thought, Okay, this is where the NFL catches up
with him. But be able to just say, hey, justin, Jefferson,
where are you? Here's the football clearly has helped him
(18:04):
and he has been terrific since the time I thought that, Okay,
now he's gonna slow down a bit, right. He's got
eleven touchdowns in the last four weeks, has been incredibly good,
and he's been good enough tonight. He hasn't been amazing tonight,
but he's been good enough and you're up by seventeen
Needa w. He's met a couple of big throws though,
I mean Jefferson touchdown, the Jefferson down to the one,
(18:25):
the one that Jefferson dropped that should have been a touchdown.
He's also nearly given given away a couple of opportunities
but the Bears can't catch. But Addison and Jefferson are
merciless love the Bears hate the Vikings Hockinson with a
couple of big catches, but yes, running free in the
Bears secondary much of the night. This is where it's
(18:48):
a found money season and it's awesome for Minnesota. But
let me throw this out there, because this really is
something that they have to make a decision for the
future of their franchise. This is a guy who's gonna
end this season right, and they didn't expect him to
have this year. They didn't even think he was gonna
play right. He's only he's only there to be a
(19:08):
placeholder until JJ McCarthy was ready. But JJ McCarthy gets hurt.
Sam Donald gets thrown in there and suddenly, look at
the guy. The guy's a pro bowler. All of a sudden,
McCarthy has to have a second surgery. And now you've
got a timeline that you're trying to figure out. He's
gonna throw thirty five touchdowns, right, he's gonna throw for
forty five hundred yards some somewhere around that area. He's
going to be one of the he's gonna be the
(19:31):
sought after quarterback in free agency. And before you can say, well,
they'll just bring him back next year, I mean you're
gonna have to Are you gonna franchise Sam Donald? I
mean that's almost kind of what you would have to
do to say, Okay, we're gonna franchise you, to see
can you do it one more year? And let's see
JJ McCarthy have a whole year of getting back to
(19:52):
the NFL because he got hurt so early, because and
and say, I mean, look, you're gonna have an upset
Sam Darnal if he gets franchise, Oh do it again.
This is where you catch like the Vikings have a
really difficult time right now, because yeah, you hit it
great with Sam Darnold.
Speaker 3 (20:06):
But who's your guy, right is it?
Speaker 1 (20:09):
Can you commit to Sam Darnald and say, okay, well
we'll find a way to spin JJ McCarthy off. Like
that's a that's a really difficult thing. What about secret options?
See you saw him on the broadcast before Daniel Jones
is there? What if Kevin Kevin O'Connell thinks he can
fix him. I can make it work with anybody, but Sam,
it's thirty some odd million or whatever from somebody else.
How about that.
Speaker 3 (20:28):
I can make it work with anybody. Just give me
Daniel Jones. We're all good. Uh, joining us now in
the hotline.
Speaker 1 (20:33):
We'll kick things off with that longtime NFL inside or
friend of the show, Jason lock and For. He's on
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Odyssey one oh five seven The Fan in Baltimore, Washington Post, Jay,
what's happening, man?
Speaker 3 (20:45):
How are you ope? We got Jay things?
Speaker 4 (20:55):
I'm good man, How are you guys?
Speaker 1 (20:58):
You know we were just sitting here talking about what
the future could hold here for Minnesota. You know Darnold's
going to finish this year with all kinds of numbers,
and hey, look at him, and he's been the number
one free agency quarterback. What do the Vikings do? I mean,
you have JJ McCarthy. You might have to pay him,
have to franchise Sam darn Like what happens?
Speaker 4 (21:14):
You know?
Speaker 3 (21:14):
How do the Vikings solve this?
Speaker 4 (21:16):
I think he gets franchise tags. I mean, I think
they try to work a deal out after the season.
I'm not sure if they're going to be able to
because to your point, there's nothing out there and he's
going to be in a great spot, and I think
they'll tag him, you know, and if the non exclusive
(21:37):
tag leads to two first round picks or whatever, so
be it. But I or they just you know, exclusive
tag them and go year to year in that way.
But I think as successful as this has been, you know,
and they've done this sort of before, right with case Kingum,
and I just don't know that you let the guy walk.
(21:58):
I think it's a really bitter pill to swallow for
the entire organization, and to go with the third starting
quarterback for a third straight year. And we saw what
it looked like, you know, when Cousins got hurt last
year and they're trying to pick pack it together with
different people. I mean they've said some salary in recent years,
(22:19):
the Jefferson deals done. I don't know why you would
go backwards at that position. And the head coach is
a former quarterback. These guys are multi billionaires. I mean,
the stadium is making the money hand over fist like whatever.
The figure is thirdy million whatever. It's not like on
a franchise tag you're making some two hundred million dollar
(22:39):
commitment and pay as you go is an ideal. I
get it. But it also bids you time to get
something done before the next season starts, where the player starts,
you know, really worrying about getting injured or what have you.
It is a tremendous, maybe the most tremendous tool that
these teams have at their disposal, and this collective bugging agreement,
and I just don't see them not using it.
Speaker 1 (23:02):
So we have the mild high ankle sprained is how
Patrick mahomes injury has been described. Carson Weinstein for Kansas
City perhaps here as we come down the stretch.
Speaker 4 (23:14):
I know he's got superhuman ankles and he's you know,
had six different ankle sprains and never missed any times.
But I just at some point the football guys aren't
going to wink back at him, right, Like, at some
point it's going to something's going to happen in one
of these games, or something's going to happen in one
of these situations that you know, throws a wrinkle in
(23:38):
what has been you know, to this point. I don't know,
like Foxborough two point zero. So I don't know why
you would risk this year, Like I just it wouldn't
make any sense to me to play him in this
game knowing you're turning around and playing again on Wednesday,
and maybe even that Christmas Day game ends up being
(24:01):
too you know, too much too soon. But after what
they've done to win these games and build this up
to then risk not having Patrick Mahomes coming out of
that buy And look, you could tell me what lo's
the buy and I say the box and still have
Patrick Mahome. I like their chances to go back to
(24:22):
the Super Bowl. So I mean, short week, the forecast
doesn't look great. I mean, they can afford to lose
a game, I think, and again, and if it means
they have to go to Buffalo and they don't get
to buy I we just saw them do that last year,
(24:44):
so no, I would I would think he shits this
game out and then we see about Christmas Day. But
stranger things have happened NFL.
Speaker 1 (24:54):
Inside of Jason Locking for our guest Jason Smith Mike
Harmon lif from the tirect dot com studios. We saw
some the big games yesterday. We watched the Josh Allen
Show over the Lions. We watched the Eagles win again
over the Pittsburgh Steelers. You know, now they won forty
in a row and they're fighting each other. Are the
Eagles the best team in football right now?
Speaker 4 (25:15):
They might be? I mean they might be. They beat
the Steelers at their own game. They didn't run the
ball over like overly effectively, but they ran it forty
two times, and they played keep away the final ten
minutes of the game, and they had almost forty minutes
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a time of possession and they had you know, bad
turnover luck or whatever. Maybe you make your own luck,
but inferior special teams and inferior turnover ratios and kill
Nasei Harris, you know, intervened, and I mean you just
don't see the Steelers get bullied like that very often.
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So and Jalen Hurt picked them apart downfield, which has
been a real problem for them, and both their number
one receivers got at least ten targets, and they both
went over one hundred yard receiving and they both had
a receiving touchdown. So yeah, I mean, maybe a little
bit drama suits them. I guess you know, what's a
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little bit, what's just right? What's too much? When does
it bleed over and become too much of a side show.
Certainly we've seen that there as well. But I mean
they've won what ten straight now, They've played some good teams.
They've had some opportunities to slip up and lose one
like that Carolina game, and they didn't. I do, you know,
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worry about that offensive line and pass protection a little bit.
I worry about him holding the ball too long. I
worry about the busted finger he's got. I worry about
their kicker. But you can say the same thing or
similar things about a lot of teams in this league
that haven't won as many games, and that aren't riding
the same mojo, and that don't have the talent that
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they have. And that's the best defense in the NFL.
For me, and I'm not sure it's all that close
right now, and that is often with subtle seasons and
decides who advances and who doesn't in the postseason. So yeah,
there's real contender as anybody.
Speaker 1 (27:26):
Playing, as well as anybody in healthy right now. Meanwhile,
on the other side, we talk about the Detroit Lions,
the battle that they had and now losing more members
of the defense and they lose knuckles. So now ed
sonic and an empty spot. Is that the bridge too far?
Speaker 4 (27:44):
Thank you mine? Three. Yeah, because you don't just lose
your defense. You lose the guy who's basically the extension
of the defense on offense. You lose your tone center,
the guy who comes out and gets fed at the
beginning of every game, and the guy who you wann't
closing most games unless it's a total blowout. It's the
guy who and look, I love Gibbs. Gibbs is a
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great back and you could do. You know, there's a
lot of teams that don't have this luxury, obviously, but
to lose that tempo setter, tone setter, their most physical back,
you know, their most physical player on offense. At the
same time, when all three levels of your defense have
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been gutted, and it's clear that they're going to have
trouble slowing people down in the best division in football
with so much competition, where even everything they've done to
this point, despite injury, still isn't enough to guarantee they
get the one seed. Yeah, I think they're in a
little bit of trouble.
Speaker 3 (28:46):
He's on Twitter at Jason lock and four.
Speaker 1 (28:48):
That is at Jason lock and four again check them out,
Honesty Washington Post one five seven the fan of Baltimore
Jay as always, buddy, appreciate it.
Speaker 4 (28:56):
Man.
Speaker 3 (28:57):
We'll talk to you next week. Have a great week.
Speaker 4 (28:59):
Always my pleasure, guy, Thank.
Speaker 3 (29:00):
You, thanks, James, would be good.
Speaker 1 (29:01):
You know, we'll get to the real issue for Detroit. Look,
everybody has injuries, as you know.
Speaker 4 (29:06):
I'm you know.
Speaker 1 (29:07):
We Look, we interviewed David Montgomery and then he got hurt.
There might be our fault, fault, it might be our fault.
Speaker 3 (29:11):
It's not our fault. Just how's it just my fault?
Are you going to ask her about his diet again?
I'm going to ask that question. Hey, it's not my fight.
Speaker 1 (29:19):
We interviewed him, he had a good interview with us,
and and unfortunately got hurt, like, that's what happened when.
Speaker 3 (29:24):
There's a part of it that got really dark. I
tried to make money for him. I tried to make
money and how did that end up? Okay, that did
not make him get hurt. It did not make him
get hurt.
Speaker 1 (29:36):
See, you have to ask the obvious extension question. Was
it the diet that eventually you had eatn some meat
instead of it? Yet my dad used to yell at
about the late great Bill Walton all the time. Look,
hey man, the lions have bigger fish to fry. Look,
the injury suck, and they do, but they have much
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bigger fish to fry. Then worrying about Okay, how do
we replace these young guys. I we'll get to that
coming up in a couple minutes. But first, a man
who has never eaten at Sonic Burger it's special flivery
Steve to Sager with what's trending?
Speaker 5 (30:13):
That's not true, Shakes, I mean that counts as eating, right, Like, sure.
Speaker 3 (30:18):
Yeah, I know. Do you stay there and eat and
then leave? Where do you just you know, no drive through? Okay?
Speaker 4 (30:22):
All right?
Speaker 5 (30:23):
Literally you stay in your car?
Speaker 3 (30:25):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (30:25):
They do it over Yeah, I think, don't quote me
but I think that's how the terminology came about. As
your reference to Lions running back David Montgomery is out
for the year with a torn MCL. He'll have surgery.
Detroit defensive tackle Elee McNeil is out for the season
torn ACL. Lions defensive back Carlton Davis will have surgery
(30:45):
for a broken jaw. Kansas City Chiefs QB. Patrick Mahomes
as a high ankle sprain said to be mild. He's
weak to week. The Chiefs cut running back Clyde Edwards Hilaire.
There are two Monday night football games going on. Apparently
since firing Matt Eber, the Bears have been outscored fifty
eight to nineteen, including trailing at Minnesota with about ten
(31:05):
and a half minutes to go.
Speaker 1 (31:06):
Right now, Yeah, but what if were they outscored while
they had Eberflus?
Speaker 5 (31:10):
Yeah, probably one to two. That sounds like the Mike
Dicka skit.
Speaker 1 (31:16):
All right, it's live there, Ditka and the bear busy
yards when we have Eberflus four three hundred and thirty
seven Ditka negative two.
Speaker 5 (31:27):
Oh, I thought the Vikings were playing against the mini
Ditka Okay, five.
Speaker 1 (31:31):
Hundred Dica Ohiccup. But what if the Hurricanes name was Ditcka,
oh Okay.
Speaker 5 (31:35):
Minnesota up twenty to six in the fourth quarter against Chicago.
This tells you all you need to know about the
pass offense with Caleb Williams in company and such as
that line in front of him he in the first half.
I saw a chart of his passes. Nearly every throw
he made throughout the first half was at the line
of scrimmage. Statistically, his average depth of target was one
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foot beyond the line of scrimmage in the first half.
He is over one hundred and fifty yards passing as
an earlier fumble from a sack. He is really feeling
a hit he took on the last drive. Vikings are
leading twenty to six against Chicago. It could be more because,
as you mentioned, Justin Jefferson, who had a first quarter touchdown,
dropped what could have been a second TD in the
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first half. As for the other game, no need to
DVR this one. Atlanta is leading twelve to three at
Las Vegas starting the fourth quarter of play. Notable that
it's only twelve to three, by the way, because the
Raiders have fallen behind by double digits in every game
so far this year, but not this one yet. Of course,
they only have about one hundred yards of offense. With
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Desmond Ritter ex Falcon at quarterback Aidan O'Connell not active
for the Raiders tonight due to his knee injury of
Bone Bruce. The Raiders have lost nine in a row.
Falcons have lost four straight. Bjehn Robinson eighty three yards
rushing for Atlanta. Wake Forest coach Dave Clawson resigned after
eleven seasons there. Former quarterback Vick is not a candidate
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for the Sacramento State coaching job, according to the Sacramento
b despite an ESPN report to the NBA, Denver has
one of the two late games, and the Nuggets are
already a forty one twenty one at Sacramento early second quarter.
Clipper's home game against Utah just starting wins for Chicago
and Cleveland, wins for Philadelphia and Detroit. The Pistons won
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in overtime against Miami one twenty five one twenty four
triple double for Cad Cunningham including eighteen assists, And don't
forget the NBA Cup Final will be Tuesday in Las Vegas.
Speaker 3 (33:32):
The Pistons have a big on side kick that they
were able to recover in the fourth. Did they have
that they're able to know that they won this game?
Speaker 4 (33:38):
Oh?
Speaker 5 (33:38):
Okay, which I want to make sure did not apply.
NBA Cup Milwaukee, Oklahoma City tomorrow back to you, Oh.
Speaker 3 (33:44):
The Cup, the final is tomorrow. Get ready, get ready,
let's go.
Speaker 1 (33:49):
Jason Smith Mike Harvion live from the tyraq dot com studios.
The Vikings on the door step and they have gone
in for another touchdown, a twenty six to six lead
over the Bears, extra point pending. Let's see, we had
a big celebration by Aaron Jones who did the Spider
(34:10):
Man Cam Akers may do the I don't know the
the the Green Goblin. Maybe may you do that like
he's flying on the sure Glider. Sure Jefferson earlier did
his tribute to Randy Moss. Good thoughts to him and
his recovery and his cancer battle. But yeah, Akers finds
the end zone to mock me even more so again.
Speaker 3 (34:29):
Wet more on these games coming up next.
Speaker 1 (34:31):
But straight ahead, you want to know the one way
to stop the best player in the NFL.
Speaker 3 (34:40):
Right now, I got it, be caring, I got the answer.
That's next. It's right here, Jason and Mike Fox.
Speaker 2 (34:48):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven
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Speaker 1 (34:59):
Fox Sports Radio Jason Smith Show with My best friend
Mike Harmon. Vikings over the Bears twenty seven to six,
nine to go in the fourth quarter. Meanwhile, Vikings lead
the Raiders fifteen to three, twelve minutes to go in
the fourth quarter in a game also on television, also broadcast.
(35:19):
I guess at this point we could say both these
games are being broadcast. No, that's true.
Speaker 3 (35:22):
Yeah, there we go.
Speaker 1 (35:24):
Now, this week we had two games that stood out
above the others, and number.
Speaker 3 (35:32):
One was the Bills and their big win over the Lions.
Speaker 1 (35:38):
And from the Bills perspective, okay, Josh Allen really look,
as much as I love Saquon Barkley, what Josh Allen's
done the last three.
Speaker 3 (35:46):
Weeks has just been inhuman.
Speaker 1 (35:48):
I mean, the guy he's these forty five Fantasy points
a week, like that's what he has he's doing. He's
been absolutely insane. And this is why I say, and
I've said for a while, and congratulates people who piggyback
off this is that sometimes when I watch play and
I watch certain drives, he looks like the best quarterback
I've ever seen. He looks absolutely unstoppable. And there's other
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times you watch him and go, what's he thinking with
that football? Wears he going with it? But there's many
more times now and I look at him and say,
he is absolutely unstoppable. Whether he throws the football, runs it,
it doesn't matter. And yesterday the Bills got out to
a fourteen nothing lead. The Lions are kind of a
little They've been starting a little lazy the last few weeks.
And you win that many games, row what happens and
the Lions are never able to overcome it. But it's
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a different Bills team when Josh Allen is able to
whether it's design runs or semi design runs where hey
drop back, but if you don't see something take off,
you know those are those are the kinds of things
that are just backbreaking for defenses. And the Bill's offense
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is running at such a high level right now, it's
really something to watch that you lose your best receiver
and it doesn't matter. Your offen is the best. It's
been the best way And this kind of sounds really weird,
and but this is this is the best way that
I would attack the Bills right now, because the Bills
right now are playing better than anybody right the Bills
and the Lions up until yesterday, but the Bills and
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the Eagles. If I'm at defense, I say, you know what,
we got to make Josh Allen one dimensional. We got
to make him throw the football. We have to be
able to not allow him to get outside and kill
us running the ball. And it's weird to say we
got to stop a quarterback from running first, but they
need to do that, make him throw the football from
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the pocket, because while the Bills offense is still really
really good, it's not the unbeatable formation you have right now.
How many times have you seen plays where Josh Allen's
picking his way through the confidence level that he plays at.
When he's able to run the football like that, he's
on a different level. And you see, Josh Allen's a
great quarterback regularly, but when he's able to do that
and he has a seven to eight carries seventy yards
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nine carries whenever they need yards, he's able to do that,
that is exactly what makes him unbeatable. If you take
that away and you say, Okay, we're gonna make you
throw the football to beat us. Whether it's we're gonna
keep you in the pocket, you know we're not. It's
about just making him back and throw, not being able
to blitz him in sacking. But we're gonna keep you
in the pocket and we're not gonna allow you to
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run the football. If you do that, that's the best
way to try to slow the Bills offense down. They're
still gonna score, he's still gonna throw a touchdowns, still
gonna move the ball, still going, but they don't become
this video game like they've been the last few weeks.
Like if you can keep him in the pocket, nor
of a turnover, but keep him in the pocket where
he gets a little lancey, he tries to make more
plays because he can't make plays with his legs and
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turns the ball over. That's the Josh Allen you want.
And if you can just keep him in the pocket throwing,
that's gonna be your best way out. I mean, it's
tough because there really is no way out right now
against the Bills, But you know, seeing the last few
weeks what this Bill's offense has become if you can
stop him from doing that, and I think you can.
He's not like a Lamar Jackson or you know, or
who can get outside the pocket, and his speed is
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just insane. But he's someone where okay, you know where
he is at all times. You can keep them, keep
him in and keep him hemmed in. Then you can
have some more success. You have a better chance to
win the game. How long he's able to do it
not sure, but he has also one to lower the
shoulder and run through you for the extra yards, which
is where that comes into play. You look at the
last four weeks. Three of those games he's gone into
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double digit carries. Didn't have to do it against San
Francisco that was thirty five ten laugher. But you look
at the games against Kansas City, now against Detroit and
going back to that thriller against the Rams, you're into
double digit carries. He's got a streak of five games
with at least one touchdown rush rushing attempt. And that's
the thing, right, we joked about it forever, my mom's
(39:41):
old save it for good. Well, now he's winning time
and what's he doing keeping the ball.
Speaker 3 (39:46):
In his hands?
Speaker 1 (39:46):
He's been very efficient as a passer. We've discussed that
all year long, even without a true number one. For
a chunk of it, Khalil Shakir now Ty Johnson re emerges,
Kincaid finally healthy, which is a big hang a star
on that because he was supposed to be the breakout guy.
If suddenly he's able to be an eight to den
target a week guy, the game changes immensely, working down
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the seams and moving the chains. So all of that's say, yeah,
you can try to contain him, but look at other contemporaries.
Right when you look at what Kyler Murray has done. Yeah,
they got a big win this week, but he hasn't
rushed for more than twenty one yards but once in
the last seven weeks. Right, they've taken that element of
his game away. So he's had to become more pure
(40:31):
passer to mixture results because we've seen them get dominated
by the Seahawks going to that measure. Whereas Josh Allen
right now, the world's his Yeah, I mean, look, there's
not a lot you got to do something and trying
to Okay, we're gonna we're gonna try to stay on this.
If they run this, we're gonna and he's just saying,
I'm playing at such a high level right now. That's
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the only thing you can do is let him throw
the football. Hope he turns it over. Hope he gets
a little bit frustrated because he does that. He really
wants to make plays, and he makes those. Bet He
gives you chances, He gives you two or three passes
a game where hey, this could be ours right here.
But that's really the only strategy right now. I mean
it's the best one, but it's the only one. Gotta
make plays. Going back to October sixth to only one
(41:14):
l hung on him exit out about a Fresco Mike
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there is having a touchdown get taken off the board
because of penalty, and then there's having a touchdown taking
off the board because of a penalty because the player
didn't report in. The Bears looked like they were gonna
have their deficit to the Minnesota Vikings thirteen nothing. Bears
(01:14):
finally have a nice little drive going DeAndre Swift in
the end zone. However, Bears had an offensive lineman come
out and play fullback.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
One problem.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
Dan Campbell will tell you you got to report, You
gotta come in. You gotta tell the officials. Hey, I'm eligible.
And you can see the replay. He just went right
into the huddle.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
Nobody told him what to do. Didn't tell me, nobody
told nobody told into the huddle, lined up as a
full back. Hey, touchdown Bears. Nope, pulled off the board.
The Bears, of course, cannot get in the end zone
after that, wind up kicking a field goal, so it
could have been. Hey, thirteen to seven, Bears are somehow
in this game?
Speaker 4 (01:52):
I did?
Speaker 1 (01:52):
Is still a ten point lead? Yeah for the Vikings,
swift stopped at the one. On a subsequent run you
had and another airmail from Caleb Williams. He had a
couple on that drive of would have could have shoot
of balls. And then yeah, once again, the offensive line
at the goal line, uh comes into play. We saw
(02:13):
it weeks ago on the infamous Hey, let's give it
to alignment instead of running Roshan Johnson. Well, Johnson's not
available for goal line work now, so let's bring a
guy in as a Blocker and you watched the Three
Man you know, kind of like it's the end of
Star Wars as they go into Alignment to try to
(02:33):
destroy Luke Skywalker and company. Instead. Yeah, here's a penalty.
Good job by job by the Bears. I mean, it
was a good run play, It really was. He never
even looked at the office, and he and he and
he Dedre Swift. It was air for him. However, However,
(02:55):
here's the thing. This game tonight is is everything you
can complain about the Bears all season in one three
hour window. It is Caleb Williams missing open wide receivers.
It is the Bears defense not being able to cover
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anybody for a long time. I can't believe Sam Darnold
had any incomplete passes because there was all kinds of
separation on every single play. There's ridiculously bad coaching decisions.
Let's go forward fourth and one and pitch it to
DeAndre Swift.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
That didn't work.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
Okay, Let's go for it again on fourth and one,
give it to DeAndre Swift.
Speaker 3 (03:34):
That should do it.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
With the DeAndre Swift on fourth down plays, Let's get them.
Let's excize them from the playbook. This is everything with
the Bears in one three hour window. And of course
right now the cherry on top of the Sunday the
touchdown that gets pulled off the board because Lineman failed
to report it. Oh no, all of it's beautiful. Man
defense has done the job as much as you can.
(03:55):
Just thirteen points allowed. Stevenson once spawn a time, the
guy waving and yelling at the crowd on the Hail
Mary play against the Commanders. He's got an interception, so
you got that going for you. But otherwise, just another
non non descript effort. And you know, Thomas Brown in
his audition, it's a fail at every turn, just like
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we said it was going to be.
Speaker 3 (04:19):
You know, hey, look he got elevated.
Speaker 4 (04:21):
Look at it.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
He goes up several levels in eighteen days. And what's
that done for you? The last two weeks you had
fifty seven yards combined into first halves, fifty seven combined.
This week not much better. Caleb Williams throwing for one
hundred and twenty two yards. At this point, you're leading receiver,
as Roma Dune say, he's got thirty nine yards. You
know it's you know, I look at Caleb Williams and
(04:44):
I'm gonna make a really great cinematic comparison. Oh, let's go, dude,
he wish you had Caleb there is.
Speaker 3 (04:51):
We'll get him next year. Where shoe.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
We'll get Caleb Williams next year. It'll be fine. Iber
Flus will be our head coach. It'll be great.
Speaker 3 (04:56):
You're getting a dude from Florida's Day Djo.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
We're not no, we're not getting declared. After seven years,
he is declared. He's been with four different programs.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
No, no, no, no, no no no.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
It's we're gonna have the Tennessee Can He's gonna be
Robinson and Vrabel and that's what's gonna be actual.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
He's kind of got the.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
Same career as Juan Sota, right, four teams and seven years,
a little bit, a little bit better, uh, a little
bit better track record one. So it's just a lot older, better,
a little bit better. No, not a lot older. Come on,
stop man. The oldest he could be is thirty. All right,
So here's a stop.
Speaker 3 (05:30):
Here's the thing.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
Okay, this is watching Caleb Williams play, and you see,
I don't know quite he knows what he sees, what
he's looking for downfield yet, but you can see the
talent is there, the arm talent is there? A strain
certainly there all the remember in uh In Butch Cassidy
and the Sundance Kid when Sundance wants to show that
he can shoot and he's trying to show Butch Cassidy
(05:51):
and he starts shooting. He's missing everything and he goes,
how are you missing everything? And and sun Dance goes,
can I move? He goes, yeah, sure, and so that says.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
A barrel roll.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
And he's hitting and he's knocking everything over and he's moving,
He's doing all kinds of stuff.
Speaker 3 (06:05):
He's on he's on his but he's on his knee.
He's hitting everything.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
Like you watch Caleb Williams and the plays where he
is the freest, where he is absolutely at his best,
our plays when he's outside the pocket. When he gets
outside the pocket and extends plays, he finds the right receiver.
You just watched a great broken play on this last
drive where Williams looked like he was out of time
and he suddenly comes back across and finds Romo Donze.
(06:30):
I mean, this is why I would I would call
everything to get him outside the pocket. I get him
outside the pocket. As much as possible. I would call
plays specifically to break down. Hey, listen, hey, just let
your uh, let the let the blitzer come in. I mean,
don't let him come all the way in, but let
him come and just give him a little bit be
want to get Caleb outside the pocket and want to
get him doing something to because he is moving. When
he is when he's moving, he makes those throws. It's
(06:52):
the throws in the pocket, it's it's the gimmes. It's
the Hey, this is a five step drop and keenan
Allen's standing five yards past the first down marker and
he's white and you miss him by by four yards.
Speaker 3 (07:02):
You know that that Those are the throws that I
look at, Go what is he doing?
Speaker 1 (07:06):
Like the easy, the gimme stuff to get like, that's
the stuff he struggles with the heart of the more
difficult stuff. The hey, making the play, extending the play.
That's the stuff he's really good at. And that stuff
he you know, he's come in you can't teach. I
would I would call all kinds of plays like that.
When when he can move, he's a different quarterback. But
in the pocket, when he's got to make a throw,
it's dude, you got to just execute these easy throws sometimes. Well,
(07:27):
it was the same thing we watched with justin fields
before it improvisation on the on the move, but also
designed rollouts which are not there. And the last drive
you talk about the arm strength and the ability to
throw that frozen rope to Adnze to get the first
down and keep the drive alive. You had another play
whereby you know he's going to make the throw down
(07:50):
the sideline and he overshoots the receiver by seven yards
who had several yards of separation safety had and rotated over.
Should have been an easy seven points. Instead it falls
harmlessly and it's off the field. He's not even falling
incomplete in the field to play. It's it's shot well
over uh, the receiver and the field and not even
(08:13):
giving him a chance to go out and make a play.
And that's the thing you're seeing time and time again
from this Bears offense, not having Johnson in the run
game when you've got let's call it what it is,
it's a bad offensive line. And Ryan Poles, what did
he play in the National Football League? You know this
one to have to the button? Yeah, hit a button,
(08:33):
no deal, No deal. No, it's so exciting deal or
no deal Antonio benderz no deal that you don't need
to hit the button.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
But I'm so excited.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
Offensive line, that is what is he really failed that?
Evaluating Jason again?
Speaker 3 (08:53):
Yeah, no deal fail Jason offensive Line.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
You brought a guy in three years, thirty million dollars,
you cut him. What are the reports this guy was
no good and didn't fit. You hired Eberfluse, your brain
trust everybody what was happening And we'd seen this report before,
but it's cycled up again this week. They colts were
going to fire him, that he was gonna get fired,
(09:21):
and you hired him as your headman. All of that
to say, it's been one disaster AFT or another. Now
he's an empty suit being puppeteered by Kevin Warren. And
you know, Thomas Brown did some great things. You saw
some growth in the offense. What's the thing you don't
want to do? Hey, let's add a bunch of responsibility.
Right when your offense is starting to at least look
(09:43):
like some semblance of a cohesive unit, and what you've
seen from the last couple of weeks, whatever the final
point totals are or whatever, don't kid yourself. You've watched
a train wreck week after week after week, and tonight
it's thirteen to three, so somebody will want to hang
their hat. Oh look, what a great effort this was. No,
you're three hundred and eighty five days removed from your
(10:05):
last road win for a reason. Meanwhile, and you know
this if you're a fan of one of the two teams,
or if you are fantasy playoffs or coming on two
Monday night games. Tonight, the Falcons lead the Raiders. Another
field goal for the Falcons. It is now twelve to.
Speaker 3 (10:22):
Three, not really a game. Can we volder on this
crap and make it actually one?
Speaker 4 (10:26):
Good? Gay?
Speaker 3 (10:27):
Is there a way to do that? No, it's I
don't wow, I don't know.
Speaker 4 (10:30):
Man.
Speaker 3 (10:30):
Can we let the Vikings play the Falcons and take
the other two home?
Speaker 5 (10:34):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (10:34):
Yeah, yeah, that is true. That is true. At least
we didn't get Bears Raiders like that would have been something.
Or you dump out of it and you show Adam
Schefter's three for three hours.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
Oh boy, yeah, the Adam Schefter, Doug Gottlieb. That is
that has been that has been a thing, that has
been a thing tonight. So yeah, man, like we call
what it is. We're reporting news and discussion points along
the way. The Falcons lead the Raiders twelve to three,
nine minutes to go in the third quarter. There was
(11:03):
a safety in that game though, Yeah, yeah, I had
a block punt.
Speaker 3 (11:07):
You had a safety.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
Like if you like low scoring games that you don't
really need to pay as much attention to because it's
the holidays and other things are going on and you
want to be able to check in once in a while,
this is your game, Like, this is absolutely the game
you want right any case, middle of the third quarter, now,
Kirk Cousins seven out of eleven eighty four yards, a
(11:30):
touchdown and an interception Desmond Ridder seven out of eleven
for fifty nine yards.
Speaker 3 (11:38):
Yay, that's a lot of offense right there. A lot offense.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
A lot offense how being displayed by shud or Saints
right almost there, you know, ho most there the Falcons
trying to stay in the the periphery of the playoff race,
and Kirk Cousins clearly is someone who you know, desperately
trying to hold on was job for as long as
(12:01):
he can. Yeah, and you know, winning tonight obviously if
they if they hold lot to win. It's the races
they hold. They'd be seven and seven and they'd be
in the thick of it. He'd be in the thick
of it. So I feel pretty good by giving. By
by going here is that if the Falcons win tonight,
Kirk Cousin stays the quarterback the rest of the season
because they will be within shouting distance of a playoff spot.
(12:24):
It might come down to the last week where they
where they're up to there to win to get eliminated.
But being seven and seven, they're still in it and
they won't make that move to Michael Pennix, uh, probably
until next year. How terrible are they that they actually
swept the season series with a pretty good Tampa Bay team. Yeah,
and everybody else, Yeah, Tragbady's beating everybody else playing well.
(12:46):
We'll talk about them as we go on final three
games for the Falcons at the Giants, at the Commanders,
and then home against the upstart Carolina Panthers. So we'll
keep you updated on both of these games. Remember, it
is the Fantasy football playoffs, and there's still two of
two seventy yes, and it is the playoffs, Fantasy playoffs
(13:07):
that means that's my putting it out there from what
you gotta keep cursing at Caleb Williams, like Caleb Williams
and Dj Moore and the Vikings defense and Jacoby Myers
who still.
Speaker 3 (13:16):
Hasn't caught a pass, still hasn't caught a pass. It's
like nineteen points a week. He hasn't caught a pass.
All right, Fantasy are the only playoffs you ever see
in your world? Oh yeah, dude, that's the all go.
I haven't seen Jeff Sport square point.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
I haven't seen Jeff did I even did I even
know you the last time that Jets made the play though,
I don't know if I knew any of you.
Speaker 3 (13:35):
I did go to a Jets charge your game with you.
If you did, that was pretty sweet. I know it wasn't.
Speaker 1 (13:39):
Gino Smith was the quarterback in that game. Uh So
keep you updated on these games again, thirteen three and
twelve three.
Speaker 3 (13:47):
So they're keeping the scores close.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
Yeah, but how much trouble are the Chiefs in with
Patrick Mahomes' injury? Is there a new number one team
in the NFL? NFL Insider Jason lock and Forrest I's
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apph Is this going to be.
Speaker 3 (15:10):
A mashup with Slayer Slayer mashup?
Speaker 4 (15:13):
No?
Speaker 3 (15:15):
Oh, this is actually the straight song. It's Mary. She's
playing the real glass. Yeah, she went to the reel.
I don't even know there was a Slayer version. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
No, Mary, and tonight, instead of tight Shirt, we get
the actual holiday music. Ty Shirt has the Here's the
Paul McCartney Slayer version. I did a concert yesterday that
he actually played it. Christmas awaits REND version, Christmas awaits ND.
(15:43):
We're live at the direc dot Com Studios. Jason Smith,
Mike Harmon.
Speaker 5 (15:47):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (15:47):
The Vikings are in the end zone. Aaron Jones with
a touchdown and.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
He does a Spider Man celebration, hangs on the railing,
turns does the Spider Man.
Speaker 3 (16:00):
May get twenty to three. Vikings with the lead.
Speaker 1 (16:02):
Late in the third quarter, Bears have the football completed
past the DJ Moore puts them across midfield, but it
is a twenty to three. Vikings lead meanwhile twelve three. Yeah,
Falcons lead the Raiders in a game that is also
being broadcast?
Speaker 4 (16:18):
Is that right?
Speaker 1 (16:18):
So I said that the right would say not in
a game that is also being broadcast on national television,
the alternate broadcast. They're doing everything they can to do
picture and picture of the Bears Viking game. If anything
remotely interesting happens, it's covering up two thirds of the screen.
Speaker 4 (16:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (16:34):
I like on the on the on the Raiders game,
the bug that says, hey, live on live on ABC
is the is.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
The Bears and the Vikings and really really really really
tiny can barely even see it as.
Speaker 3 (16:46):
Hey, you know, yeah, the other channel is Falcons Raiders.
Speaker 1 (16:48):
That's up there too, Raders. Yeah, it's there if you're interested. Yeah,
I mean if you want. I mean, you know you
don't have to obviously, but I mean, yeah, hey, listens,
good thing you're not trying to run an alternate red zone.
Yeah no, no, no, no, no, no, bad for everybody.
Speaker 3 (17:00):
Listen.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
If you're doing he's kicked his feet up and he's
taking an as if you're absolutely not doing anything, hey,
turn that game on, all right, I mean, if you
have nothing else going, you'll that's what it'll be. You
know what the alternate programming should have been, what's up
the e Cup final? H So we're gonna have Jason
locking Forward coming up in a little bit here Again,
(17:22):
we still have the both games happening going to the
fourth quarter. Now, let's talk about Sam Darnald here for
a second. Oh, let's all right, because here the Vikings, look,
they're in control here against the Bears, are gonna get
another w. And of all the teams in the NFC, look,
with the Lions had a big loss, the Eagles had
a big win. Eventually, I mean, I'm not but eventually
(17:42):
people are gonna start believing in the Vikings as as
huge contenders. But Donald is someone who clearly has shown that, hey,
in the right situation, I can be the guy you
drafted me to be right, And he looked like he
started to slow down a little bit middle of the season.
I thought, Okay, this is where the NFL catches up
with him. But be able to just say, hey, justin, Jefferson,
where are you? Here's the football clearly has helped him
(18:04):
and he has been terrific since the time I thought that, Okay,
now he's gonna slow down a bit, right. He's got
eleven touchdowns in the last four weeks, has been incredibly good,
and he's been good enough tonight. He hasn't been amazing tonight,
but he's been good enough and you're up by seventeen
Needa w. He's met a couple of big throws though,
I mean Jefferson touchdown, the Jefferson down to the one,
(18:25):
the one that Jefferson dropped that should have been a touchdown.
He's also nearly given given away a couple of opportunities
but the Bears can't catch. But Addison and Jefferson are
merciless love the Bears hate the Vikings Hockinson with a
couple of big catches, but yes, running free in the
Bears secondary much of the night. This is where it's
(18:48):
a found money season and it's awesome for Minnesota. But
let me throw this out there, because this really is
something that they have to make a decision for the
future of their franchise. This is a guy who's gonna
end this season right, and they didn't expect him to
have this year. They didn't even think he was gonna
play right. He's only he's only there to be a
(19:08):
placeholder until JJ McCarthy was ready. But JJ McCarthy gets hurt.
Sam Donald gets thrown in there and suddenly, look at
the guy. The guy's a pro bowler. All of a sudden,
McCarthy has to have a second surgery. And now you've
got a timeline that you're trying to figure out. He's
gonna throw thirty five touchdowns, right, he's gonna throw for
forty five hundred yards some somewhere around that area. He's
going to be one of the he's gonna be the
(19:31):
sought after quarterback in free agency. And before you can say, well,
they'll just bring him back next year, I mean you're
gonna have to Are you gonna franchise Sam Donald? I
mean that's almost kind of what you would have to
do to say, Okay, we're gonna franchise you, to see
can you do it one more year? And let's see
JJ McCarthy have a whole year of getting back to
(19:52):
the NFL because he got hurt so early, because and
and say, I mean, look, you're gonna have an upset
Sam Darnal if he gets franchise, Oh do it again.
This is where you catch like the Vikings have a
really difficult time right now, because yeah, you hit it
great with Sam Darnold.
Speaker 3 (20:06):
But who's your guy, right is it?
Speaker 1 (20:09):
Can you commit to Sam Darnald and say, okay, well
we'll find a way to spin JJ McCarthy off. Like
that's a that's a really difficult thing. What about secret options?
See you saw him on the broadcast before Daniel Jones
is there? What if Kevin Kevin O'Connell thinks he can
fix him. I can make it work with anybody, but Sam,
it's thirty some odd million or whatever from somebody else.
How about that.
Speaker 3 (20:28):
I can make it work with anybody. Just give me
Daniel Jones. We're all good. Uh, joining us now in
the hotline.
Speaker 1 (20:33):
We'll kick things off with that longtime NFL inside or
friend of the show, Jason lock and For. He's on
Twitter at Jason lock and For. Check him out on
Odyssey one oh five seven The Fan in Baltimore, Washington Post, Jay,
what's happening, man?
Speaker 3 (20:45):
How are you ope? We got Jay things?
Speaker 4 (20:55):
I'm good man, How are you guys?
Speaker 1 (20:58):
You know we were just sitting here talking about what
the future could hold here for Minnesota. You know Darnold's
going to finish this year with all kinds of numbers,
and hey, look at him, and he's been the number
one free agency quarterback. What do the Vikings do? I mean,
you have JJ McCarthy. You might have to pay him,
have to franchise Sam darn Like what happens?
Speaker 4 (21:14):
You know?
Speaker 3 (21:14):
How do the Vikings solve this?
Speaker 4 (21:16):
I think he gets franchise tags. I mean, I think
they try to work a deal out after the season.
I'm not sure if they're going to be able to
because to your point, there's nothing out there and he's
going to be in a great spot, and I think
they'll tag him, you know, and if the non exclusive
(21:37):
tag leads to two first round picks or whatever, so
be it. But I or they just you know, exclusive
tag them and go year to year in that way.
But I think as successful as this has been, you know,
and they've done this sort of before, right with case Kingum,
and I just don't know that you let the guy walk.
(21:58):
I think it's a really bitter pill to swallow for
the entire organization, and to go with the third starting
quarterback for a third straight year. And we saw what
it looked like, you know, when Cousins got hurt last
year and they're trying to pick pack it together with
different people. I mean they've said some salary in recent years,
(22:19):
the Jefferson deals done. I don't know why you would
go backwards at that position. And the head coach is
a former quarterback. These guys are multi billionaires. I mean,
the stadium is making the money hand over fist like whatever.
The figure is thirdy million whatever. It's not like on
a franchise tag you're making some two hundred million dollar
(22:39):
commitment and pay as you go is an ideal. I
get it. But it also bids you time to get
something done before the next season starts, where the player starts,
you know, really worrying about getting injured or what have you.
It is a tremendous, maybe the most tremendous tool that
these teams have at their disposal, and this collective bugging agreement,
and I just don't see them not using it.
Speaker 1 (23:02):
So we have the mild high ankle sprained is how
Patrick mahomes injury has been described. Carson Weinstein for Kansas
City perhaps here as we come down the stretch.
Speaker 4 (23:14):
I know he's got superhuman ankles and he's you know,
had six different ankle sprains and never missed any times.
But I just at some point the football guys aren't
going to wink back at him, right, Like, at some
point it's going to something's going to happen in one
of these games, or something's going to happen in one
of these situations that you know, throws a wrinkle in
(23:38):
what has been you know, to this point. I don't know,
like Foxborough two point zero. So I don't know why
you would risk this year, Like I just it wouldn't
make any sense to me to play him in this
game knowing you're turning around and playing again on Wednesday,
and maybe even that Christmas Day game ends up being
(24:01):
too you know, too much too soon. But after what
they've done to win these games and build this up
to then risk not having Patrick Mahomes coming out of
that buy And look, you could tell me what lo's
the buy and I say the box and still have
Patrick Mahome. I like their chances to go back to
(24:22):
the Super Bowl. So I mean, short week, the forecast
doesn't look great. I mean, they can afford to lose
a game, I think, and again, and if it means
they have to go to Buffalo and they don't get
to buy I we just saw them do that last year,
(24:44):
so no, I would I would think he shits this
game out and then we see about Christmas Day. But
stranger things have happened NFL.
Speaker 1 (24:54):
Inside of Jason Locking for our guest Jason Smith Mike
Harmon lif from the tirect dot com studios. We saw
some the big games yesterday. We watched the Josh Allen
Show over the Lions. We watched the Eagles win again
over the Pittsburgh Steelers. You know, now they won forty
in a row and they're fighting each other. Are the
Eagles the best team in football right now?
Speaker 4 (25:15):
They might be? I mean they might be. They beat
the Steelers at their own game. They didn't run the
ball over like overly effectively, but they ran it forty
two times, and they played keep away the final ten
minutes of the game, and they had almost forty minutes
(25:36):
a time of possession and they had you know, bad
turnover luck or whatever. Maybe you make your own luck,
but inferior special teams and inferior turnover ratios and kill
Nasei Harris, you know, intervened, and I mean you just
don't see the Steelers get bullied like that very often.
(25:57):
So and Jalen Hurt picked them apart downfield, which has
been a real problem for them, and both their number
one receivers got at least ten targets, and they both
went over one hundred yard receiving and they both had
a receiving touchdown. So yeah, I mean, maybe a little
bit drama suits them. I guess you know, what's a
(26:21):
little bit, what's just right? What's too much? When does
it bleed over and become too much of a side show.
Certainly we've seen that there as well. But I mean
they've won what ten straight now, They've played some good teams.
They've had some opportunities to slip up and lose one
like that Carolina game, and they didn't. I do, you know,
(26:46):
worry about that offensive line and pass protection a little bit.
I worry about him holding the ball too long. I
worry about the busted finger he's got. I worry about
their kicker. But you can say the same thing or
similar things about a lot of teams in this league
that haven't won as many games, and that aren't riding
the same mojo, and that don't have the talent that
(27:08):
they have. And that's the best defense in the NFL.
For me, and I'm not sure it's all that close
right now, and that is often with subtle seasons and
decides who advances and who doesn't in the postseason. So yeah,
there's real contender as anybody.
Speaker 1 (27:26):
Playing, as well as anybody in healthy right now. Meanwhile,
on the other side, we talk about the Detroit Lions,
the battle that they had and now losing more members
of the defense and they lose knuckles. So now ed
sonic and an empty spot. Is that the bridge too far?
Speaker 4 (27:44):
Thank you mine? Three. Yeah, because you don't just lose
your defense. You lose the guy who's basically the extension
of the defense on offense. You lose your tone center,
the guy who comes out and gets fed at the
beginning of every game, and the guy who you wann't
closing most games unless it's a total blowout. It's the
guy who and look, I love Gibbs. Gibbs is a
(28:05):
great back and you could do. You know, there's a
lot of teams that don't have this luxury, obviously, but
to lose that tempo setter, tone setter, their most physical back,
you know, their most physical player on offense. At the
same time, when all three levels of your defense have
(28:26):
been gutted, and it's clear that they're going to have
trouble slowing people down in the best division in football
with so much competition, where even everything they've done to
this point, despite injury, still isn't enough to guarantee they
get the one seed. Yeah, I think they're in a
little bit of trouble.
Speaker 3 (28:46):
He's on Twitter at Jason lock and four.
Speaker 1 (28:48):
That is at Jason lock and four again check them out,
Honesty Washington Post one five seven the fan of Baltimore
Jay as always, buddy, appreciate it.
Speaker 4 (28:56):
Man.
Speaker 3 (28:57):
We'll talk to you next week. Have a great week.
Speaker 4 (28:59):
Always my pleasure, guy, Thank.
Speaker 3 (29:00):
You, thanks, James, would be good.
Speaker 1 (29:01):
You know, we'll get to the real issue for Detroit. Look,
everybody has injuries, as you know.
Speaker 4 (29:06):
I'm you know.
Speaker 1 (29:07):
We Look, we interviewed David Montgomery and then he got hurt.
There might be our fault, fault, it might be our fault.
Speaker 3 (29:11):
It's not our fault. Just how's it just my fault?
Are you going to ask her about his diet again?
I'm going to ask that question. Hey, it's not my fight.
Speaker 1 (29:19):
We interviewed him, he had a good interview with us,
and and unfortunately got hurt, like, that's what happened when.
Speaker 3 (29:24):
There's a part of it that got really dark. I
tried to make money for him. I tried to make
money and how did that end up? Okay, that did
not make him get hurt. It did not make him
get hurt.
Speaker 1 (29:36):
See, you have to ask the obvious extension question. Was
it the diet that eventually you had eatn some meat
instead of it? Yet my dad used to yell at
about the late great Bill Walton all the time. Look,
hey man, the lions have bigger fish to fry. Look,
the injury suck, and they do, but they have much
(29:58):
bigger fish to fry. Then worrying about Okay, how do
we replace these young guys. I we'll get to that
coming up in a couple minutes. But first, a man
who has never eaten at Sonic Burger it's special flivery
Steve to Sager with what's trending?
Speaker 5 (30:13):
That's not true, Shakes, I mean that counts as eating, right, Like, sure.
Speaker 3 (30:18):
Yeah, I know. Do you stay there and eat and
then leave? Where do you just you know, no drive through? Okay?
Speaker 4 (30:22):
All right?
Speaker 5 (30:23):
Literally you stay in your car?
Speaker 3 (30:25):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (30:25):
They do it over Yeah, I think, don't quote me
but I think that's how the terminology came about. As
your reference to Lions running back David Montgomery is out
for the year with a torn MCL. He'll have surgery.
Detroit defensive tackle Elee McNeil is out for the season
torn ACL. Lions defensive back Carlton Davis will have surgery
(30:45):
for a broken jaw. Kansas City Chiefs QB. Patrick Mahomes
as a high ankle sprain said to be mild. He's
weak to week. The Chiefs cut running back Clyde Edwards Hilaire.
There are two Monday night football games going on. Apparently
since firing Matt Eber, the Bears have been outscored fifty
eight to nineteen, including trailing at Minnesota with about ten
(31:05):
and a half minutes to go.
Speaker 1 (31:06):
Right now, Yeah, but what if were they outscored while
they had Eberflus?
Speaker 5 (31:10):
Yeah, probably one to two. That sounds like the Mike
Dicka skit.
Speaker 1 (31:16):
All right, it's live there, Ditka and the bear busy
yards when we have Eberflus four three hundred and thirty
seven Ditka negative two.
Speaker 5 (31:27):
Oh, I thought the Vikings were playing against the mini
Ditka Okay, five.
Speaker 1 (31:31):
Hundred Dica Ohiccup. But what if the Hurricanes name was Ditcka,
oh Okay.
Speaker 5 (31:35):
Minnesota up twenty to six in the fourth quarter against Chicago.
This tells you all you need to know about the
pass offense with Caleb Williams in company and such as
that line in front of him he in the first half.
I saw a chart of his passes. Nearly every throw
he made throughout the first half was at the line
of scrimmage. Statistically, his average depth of target was one
(31:58):
foot beyond the line of scrimmage in the first half.
He is over one hundred and fifty yards passing as
an earlier fumble from a sack. He is really feeling
a hit he took on the last drive. Vikings are
leading twenty to six against Chicago. It could be more because,
as you mentioned, Justin Jefferson, who had a first quarter touchdown,
dropped what could have been a second TD in the
(32:19):
first half. As for the other game, no need to
DVR this one. Atlanta is leading twelve to three at
Las Vegas starting the fourth quarter of play. Notable that
it's only twelve to three, by the way, because the
Raiders have fallen behind by double digits in every game
so far this year, but not this one yet. Of course,
they only have about one hundred yards of offense. With
(32:40):
Desmond Ritter ex Falcon at quarterback Aidan O'Connell not active
for the Raiders tonight due to his knee injury of
Bone Bruce. The Raiders have lost nine in a row.
Falcons have lost four straight. Bjehn Robinson eighty three yards
rushing for Atlanta. Wake Forest coach Dave Clawson resigned after
eleven seasons there. Former quarterback Vick is not a candidate
(33:01):
for the Sacramento State coaching job, according to the Sacramento
b despite an ESPN report to the NBA, Denver has
one of the two late games, and the Nuggets are
already a forty one twenty one at Sacramento early second quarter.
Clipper's home game against Utah just starting wins for Chicago
and Cleveland, wins for Philadelphia and Detroit. The Pistons won
(33:21):
in overtime against Miami one twenty five one twenty four
triple double for Cad Cunningham including eighteen assists, And don't
forget the NBA Cup Final will be Tuesday in Las Vegas.
Speaker 3 (33:32):
The Pistons have a big on side kick that they
were able to recover in the fourth. Did they have
that they're able to know that they won this game?
Speaker 4 (33:38):
Oh?
Speaker 5 (33:38):
Okay, which I want to make sure did not apply.
NBA Cup Milwaukee, Oklahoma City tomorrow back to you, Oh.
Speaker 3 (33:44):
The Cup, the final is tomorrow. Get ready, get ready,
let's go.
Speaker 1 (33:49):
Jason Smith Mike Harvion live from the tyraq dot com studios.
The Vikings on the door step and they have gone
in for another touchdown, a twenty six to six lead
over the Bears, extra point pending. Let's see, we had
a big celebration by Aaron Jones who did the Spider
(34:10):
Man Cam Akers may do the I don't know the
the the Green Goblin. Maybe may you do that like
he's flying on the sure Glider. Sure Jefferson earlier did
his tribute to Randy Moss. Good thoughts to him and
his recovery and his cancer battle. But yeah, Akers finds
the end zone to mock me even more so again.
Speaker 3 (34:29):
Wet more on these games coming up next.
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Mike Harmon. Vikings over the Bears twenty seven to six,
nine to go in the fourth quarter. Meanwhile, Vikings lead
the Raiders fifteen to three, twelve minutes to go in
the fourth quarter in a game also on television, also broadcast.
(35:19):
I guess at this point we could say both these
games are being broadcast. No, that's true.
Speaker 3 (35:22):
Yeah, there we go.
Speaker 1 (35:24):
Now, this week we had two games that stood out
above the others, and number.
Speaker 3 (35:32):
One was the Bills and their big win over the Lions.
Speaker 1 (35:38):
And from the Bills perspective, okay, Josh Allen really look,
as much as I love Saquon Barkley, what Josh Allen's
done the last three.
Speaker 3 (35:46):
Weeks has just been inhuman.
Speaker 1 (35:48):
I mean, the guy he's these forty five Fantasy points
a week, like that's what he has he's doing. He's
been absolutely insane. And this is why I say, and
I've said for a while, and congratulates people who piggyback
off this is that sometimes when I watch play and
I watch certain drives, he looks like the best quarterback
I've ever seen. He looks absolutely unstoppable. And there's other
(36:08):
times you watch him and go, what's he thinking with
that football? Wears he going with it? But there's many
more times now and I look at him and say,
he is absolutely unstoppable. Whether he throws the football, runs it,
it doesn't matter. And yesterday the Bills got out to
a fourteen nothing lead. The Lions are kind of a
little They've been starting a little lazy the last few weeks.
And you win that many games, row what happens and
the Lions are never able to overcome it. But it's
(36:29):
a different Bills team when Josh Allen is able to
whether it's design runs or semi design runs where hey
drop back, but if you don't see something take off,
you know those are those are the kinds of things
that are just backbreaking for defenses. And the Bill's offense
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is running at such a high level right now, it's
really something to watch that you lose your best receiver
and it doesn't matter. Your offen is the best. It's
been the best way And this kind of sounds really weird,
and but this is this is the best way that
I would attack the Bills right now, because the Bills
right now are playing better than anybody right the Bills
and the Lions up until yesterday, but the Bills and
(37:11):
the Eagles. If I'm at defense, I say, you know what,
we got to make Josh Allen one dimensional. We got
to make him throw the football. We have to be
able to not allow him to get outside and kill
us running the ball. And it's weird to say we
got to stop a quarterback from running first, but they
need to do that, make him throw the football from
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the pocket, because while the Bills offense is still really
really good, it's not the unbeatable formation you have right now.
How many times have you seen plays where Josh Allen's
picking his way through the confidence level that he plays at.
When he's able to run the football like that, he's
on a different level. And you see, Josh Allen's a
great quarterback regularly, but when he's able to do that
and he has a seven to eight carries seventy yards
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nine carries whenever they need yards, he's able to do that,
that is exactly what makes him unbeatable. If you take
that away and you say, Okay, we're gonna make you
throw the football to beat us. Whether it's we're gonna
keep you in the pocket, you know we're not. It's
about just making him back and throw, not being able
to blitz him in sacking. But we're gonna keep you
in the pocket and we're not gonna allow you to
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run the football. If you do that, that's the best
way to try to slow the Bills offense down. They're
still gonna score, he's still gonna throw a touchdowns, still
gonna move the ball, still going, but they don't become
this video game like they've been the last few weeks.
Like if you can keep him in the pocket, nor
of a turnover, but keep him in the pocket where
he gets a little lancey, he tries to make more
plays because he can't make plays with his legs and
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turns the ball over. That's the Josh Allen you want.
And if you can just keep him in the pocket throwing,
that's gonna be your best way out. I mean, it's
tough because there really is no way out right now
against the Bills, But you know, seeing the last few
weeks what this Bill's offense has become if you can
stop him from doing that, and I think you can.
He's not like a Lamar Jackson or you know, or
who can get outside the pocket, and his speed is
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just insane. But he's someone where okay, you know where
he is at all times. You can keep them, keep
him in and keep him hemmed in. Then you can
have some more success. You have a better chance to
win the game. How long he's able to do it
not sure, but he has also one to lower the
shoulder and run through you for the extra yards, which
is where that comes into play. You look at the
last four weeks. Three of those games he's gone into
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double digit carries. Didn't have to do it against San
Francisco that was thirty five ten laugher. But you look
at the games against Kansas City, now against Detroit and
going back to that thriller against the Rams, you're into
double digit carries. He's got a streak of five games
with at least one touchdown rush rushing attempt. And that's
the thing, right, we joked about it forever, my mom's
(39:41):
old save it for good. Well, now he's winning time
and what's he doing keeping the ball.
Speaker 3 (39:46):
In his hands?
Speaker 1 (39:46):
He's been very efficient as a passer. We've discussed that
all year long, even without a true number one. For
a chunk of it, Khalil Shakir now Ty Johnson re emerges,
Kincaid finally healthy, which is a big hang a star
on that because he was supposed to be the breakout guy.
If suddenly he's able to be an eight to den
target a week guy, the game changes immensely, working down
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the seams and moving the chains. So all of that's say, yeah,
you can try to contain him, but look at other contemporaries.
Right when you look at what Kyler Murray has done. Yeah,
they got a big win this week, but he hasn't
rushed for more than twenty one yards but once in
the last seven weeks. Right, they've taken that element of
his game away. So he's had to become more pure
(40:31):
passer to mixture results because we've seen them get dominated
by the Seahawks going to that measure. Whereas Josh Allen
right now, the world's his Yeah, I mean, look, there's
not a lot you got to do something and trying
to Okay, we're gonna we're gonna try to stay on this.
If they run this, we're gonna and he's just saying,
I'm playing at such a high level right now. That's
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the only thing you can do is let him throw
the football. Hope he turns it over. Hope he gets
a little bit frustrated because he does that. He really
wants to make plays, and he makes those. Bet He
gives you chances, He gives you two or three passes
a game where hey, this could be ours right here.
But that's really the only strategy right now. I mean
it's the best one, but it's the only one. Gotta
make plays. Going back to October sixth to only one
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l hung on him exit out about a Fresco Mike
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