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Speaker 1 (00:27):
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are Thursday night football, eight and a half to go
in the third quarter. The Broncos with another field goal.
I feel like they've scored every single time they have
had the football. Uh. They lead the Chargers twenty four
to thirteen. It's been a big night for bow Nicks.
He's twenty out of twenty seven hundred and ninety six yards,
a couple of touchdowns. I really Mike when we talked
(01:12):
about this game last night, and you know, we're picking this,
and I said, Okay, the Chargers defense had a really
bad uh Sunday against the Bucks, but this is the
best defense in the NFL they've had. I'm sure they've
had a rough last couple of days of practice. They're
gonna have it working tonight. Nope. They look like they
are unprepared for anything the Broncos want to do on offense,
(01:32):
Like like every set, third and eleven, Hey, we're not
ready for that screen pass and she has a screen
pass for fourteen yards fifteen yards, Like everything the Broncos
have wanted to do on offense, the Chargers look like
they're not ready for.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
I thought you were gonna get some uh, some lift
and then you're gonna get Perryman back and Mays in
the lineup and all of this, Oh no, eight, they're gone.
So all of a sudden, you're you're rotating back in
and shuffling. But to your point, outside of his dopey
clock management in the end of the half, which we'll
get to in a minute, Sean Payton with a masterclass
(02:05):
in that first half. Right, you look at the game
against Tampa. The Chargers failed to force a punt in
that game, and then the first three drives for the Broncos.
Here the excellence of execution, three straight touchdowns. Everybody plays,
everybody wins, unless you're a Javonte Williams fantasy owner. Then
you get to watch the other other running back score.
(02:26):
But for bow Knicks, on the run, on the move,
and just plenty of throwing lanes and opportunities. And for
the Chargers, it goes back to the same question we've
been asking all along. Will they be able to score
enough points to stay with teams?
Speaker 1 (02:41):
You know, because the Chargers is its own thing, But
just you know a bit about Sean Payton is that Look,
I've said it all year long. He's the coach of
the year in the NFL. He has just a bunch
of guys. He's got a bunch of guys on this
team and bow Knicks. If bo Knicks was much more
sought after or was going to be more of a start,
he would have been drafted higher. But he wasn't. And
(03:01):
what he's been able to do with this team nine
and five and now a double digit lead midway through
the third quarter, looking for their tenth win when it
just defies logic that this team should be this good
and they can clinch a playoff berth with a win tonight,
and they don't have anything running the football that scares you.
They don't have anybody catching the football that really scares you.
Bo Nix is nice, but wow, does he really scare you? No,
(03:23):
he's making good throws. He's better than people anticipated. But
you know, you see Denver and all of a sudden,
it's it's there, so much greater than some of their parts.
But the game plan coming in tonight, clearly Sean Payton
knew what he wanted to do, knew what he could
catch the Chargers defense napping at or catch them on
roller skates on, and that's what he's doing. What he
(03:44):
is he has the Chargers completely off balance. And I
look at it and I go, man, I need to
forget how good a coach he was. You forget? Yeah,
I would give up a first round pick for him,
But Sean Payton, do you kid not give a course?
I give up a first round pick to get Sean
Payton at this point, to get him away from the
Saints because he walked like he has turned out to
be that guy, and I think as time goes on,
(04:04):
you're talking about a potential playoff clinching night tonight. This
is where Sean Payton's like, Yeah, there's other great teams
in the NFL. Everybody's doing really great things. But really,
you know, with Sean McDermott doing anything different, No is
John Harpad doing anything different. No, it's Andy Reid doing
anything different. No, Nick Sirianni, Well you can't stand him.
He's not doing anything different. But here's all of a
(04:25):
sudden Sean Payton from, Hey, we're gonna send away our
quarterback and we're gonna eat a lot of money and
we're gonna basically start over. Nope, our start over is
we're gonna be one of the top seeds in the
AFC in the playoffs. Yeah, I know, anybody else should
get a vote right now for Coach of the Year.
Speaker 3 (04:40):
Yeah, I'm surprised the running game hasn't been better in
the process. I guess that would be the only thing
that really kind of stands out is that hasn't gotten going.
But they've got two touchdowns today and a would be
clinching games. So all of that renders moot as you
go to the playoffs, and but you look at the
schedules and it's some of what we talk talked about,
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and even just looking at the game coming into tonight.
You gotta win the games that you're supposed to and
guess what the games in the margins. And now that
Broncos have done it with more style points, they've had
a few more blowout wins than we've seen from the
Los Angeles Chargers to get to their nine wins.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
Yeah, it's not like they're winning games like sixteen thirteen
and twelve ten in the snow and oh they won
three to nothing in the slush. Now, they were the
best offense in the NFL over the last five six
that's how a ton of points.
Speaker 3 (05:31):
Obviously, we have that game against the Chiefs and we
can talk about that one sixteen fourteen to l But
I get I guess the point I'm getting to is
the only team they beat that is quote unquote good,
is Tampa always sensetember No, no, no.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
But only beaters on this beats on the schedule.
Speaker 3 (05:50):
But all I'm trying to say is, let's not crown anybody. Okay,
you're taking care of business. Yes, you crushed the five
and a half or six and a half or wherever
you got in on their win total. For Sean Payton,
it's it's a nice job. Don't get me wrong. I
thought bo Nix was a better quarterback than most and
that their roster really wasn't that bad. Vance Joseph should
(06:12):
be your defensive court. Is there a defensive Coordinator of
the Year award? Like we have all those college awards?
Do they get something? He carried them? You want to
the year?
Speaker 1 (06:23):
Yeah, Now the offense has been carrying in the last
few weeks, so you want to give it. You're ready
to give the defensive Coach of the Year to Vance.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
Joe, I said, if there's a defensive coordinator, sure, that's
what I'm.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
Saying for you want to give him the award all.
You want to give him that award, But you won't
give Sean Payton coach of the Year yet, No, because
again you hate Sean Payton, just saying, I what did
he do to you about.
Speaker 3 (06:50):
A fan of how everybody's gone out of their way
to genuflect to the guy through the years. He increased
won Super Bowl a long time ago with every player
we kill them. Ah man, that was so long ago.
Or they only got one. All right, he got one?
Wait another, I'm.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
Looking to see if somewhere, hey, you know sources Sean
Payton rebuffs Bears for head coaching job, Bears to higher
eber Flus like, I'm looking to see if that was somewhere,
because you really are anti Sean Payton. That's amazing man, A.
Speaker 3 (07:20):
Great coach, no question about it.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
Go win some more though, But you but you're ready
to give his defensive coordinator, if the defensive coordinator of
the Year award, but you don't want to give him
the head coach.
Speaker 3 (07:29):
They're tied for the league lead and fewest points allowed
per game.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
But you said there's more to be played, there's more
to be done. Beat up.
Speaker 3 (07:38):
Well, they're gonna get roasted by the Cincinnati offense a
week from now.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
Okay, all right, all right, all right, well anti shok
hang on, hang on Twitter, Mike Harmon, hate Sean Payton,
anyone with information, Why hit me back?
Speaker 3 (07:52):
There's not a matter of hate. Let's be level headed
about I'm not a hyperbole. Let's, you know, bow to
a guy.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
You're not ready to say, who the who? Who do
you think is the best coach in the NFL. Right now,
then if it's not Sean Payton, who isn't What do
you like with this roster that they've had and the
division that they're in? Give me, give me no, don't
that's it? Wow, Mike Tom for Kevin O'Connell. You're gonna
say Jeff Albrick.
Speaker 3 (08:16):
Actually no, I would either go Tomlin or probably more
likely O'Connell, because remember, everybody, I love their roster. It
was all just what are you getting out of the quarterback?
And boy did he coax a lot out of the quarterback.
Now you can't tell the tale without Brian Flores and
what that defense is meant. But you know, because it'll
mean more to hurt you. I just yell Sam, Sam, Sam,
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every chance I get you.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
Look that that's the you know you look at Minnesota.
I'm with you. Kevin O'Connell's terrific coach. He's a big
quarterback whisper, He's done a tremendous job. He's got a
really good roster, you know, I mean Minnesota.
Speaker 3 (08:50):
They were still projected really good roster because everybody was
everybody was expecting the Bears. And I tried to warn you,
and you screwed me, and we knew the Packers and
the Lions we're gonna be good. So look, coming into
the year, the Vikings were picked last in most boards, and.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
He now the Uh so as we differ a little
bit on Coach of the Year. Uh. The thing about
the Chargers, okay, and they are driving now potentially. Uh,
they're gonna have a first and goal after a late
hit when Herbert slid down. Uh, there's gonna be a
late hit. Yeah, you lead with your fore arm. We
saw that last weekend Jacksonville.
Speaker 3 (09:26):
That's gonna a good move.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
Uh. They're gonna have a first and goal from inside
the eight.
Speaker 3 (09:32):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
But here's the thing about the Chargers is that the
Broncos jumped out to a big lead and the Chargers
still seem bent on we are going to run the
football when we don't run the football really well? Right
when JK Dobbins, Yes, JK Dobbins, they run the football well.
But this is a Charger team that you know, A,
you're not gonna be able to sustain this running game
(09:52):
because these guys get hurt and B you can't just
put anybody out there and and decide, hey, we're gonna
go and we're just gonna try to run football. You
have to really just understand that. Okay, your best playmaker
is Justin Herbert and Lad McConkie, and you're kind of
driven that way. And if you want to have a
sledgehammer balanced offense, that's great. But man, the number of
times the Charge go Okay, first down run, first down,
(10:13):
run for second down, and nine, here's another run, It's
like you're just running with a bunch of guys, right.
I mean, Gus Edwards goes in from a few yards
out for a touchdown here to cut the lead. But
by and large, Gus Edwards has been a guy. Right.
He's got eight carries for eighteen yards to night, they've
run twenty times for sixty eight yards. Herbert's the best
run at Rusher tonight with four scrambles, had a big
scramble for a first down. So it's I feel like
(10:35):
if the Chargers really want to do damage and they're
not just happy, Hey, we're happy what we're doing. We're competing.
We probably are gonna make the playoffs. That's really happy. Now,
if you really want to want to do something, you
have to open up the offense a little bit and
understand that. Okay, we're not gonna be able to win
every game seventeen to ten. You know we're not. You
(10:55):
know you're not nineteen to sixteen because as Harbaugh is seeing, Hey,
wait a minute, maybe my defense isn't quite as good
as I thought it was. Like when your defense was great,
you think that way. Look, that's what Mike Tomlin's been
lulled into for the last few years. Hey, I only
want to score sixteen points. So don't you want to
score No.
Speaker 3 (11:10):
No, no, no, no, no, no, no no no.
Speaker 1 (11:12):
I we're gonna we're only gonna give up ten. We're
only gonna get up thirteen. We're only gonna give up nine.
Like if you've got to understand that, Okay, maybe this
is not quite the defense that it was because here's
two games in a row and this is in December
where you got worked by Tampa and now you're getting
worked by Denver. I mean, I gotta understand. Okay, yeah,
you need to button things down defensively, but you gotta
open things up offensively more. You gotta be able to
(11:34):
score points with with the other big teams if you're
gonna win, because you're not good enough to be that. Hey,
We're just gonna put our defense out there, run the
football a bunch, throw and we want to and expect
to walk away with a win. It's not gonna happen.
Speaker 3 (11:44):
Well, the point is that you don't have enough weapons
in your receiving corps to open up the game to
really do any damage. Now, do you as much as
I like Stone Smart because his name is Stone Smart,
his last name is Smart with the extra team, what
do you like better?
Speaker 1 (11:59):
That is? For name is Stone, or that his last
name is smu.
Speaker 3 (12:01):
I think it's without the combination. I don't think it works.
Speaker 1 (12:05):
Uh, okay, Well if it well, I don't know. Well, okay, sure,
if as well as his first name was Get with
two t's, that'd be pretty cool.
Speaker 3 (12:12):
Well, I mean, look, if they were that much on
the nose, he would have that much of a more
of a chip on his shoulder and propelled to even
further greatness. But the loss of Disley was big for them, right.
He was their second leading receiver to Lad McConkey, who
somehow still finds his way into wide open space in
the secondary. He's five for five seventy yards tonight. But
(12:33):
beyond that, who do you fear in that receiving corps.
There's nobody, and nobody's emerged. You didn't get go and
find anybody to bolster things deadline or waiver wires or
any of those things. And then the rushing game you
lost the guy that was averaging five yards of pop.
Now you knew you were playing with fire when you
(12:55):
brought both he and the Gus Buss in. Gus Buss
who just scored again twenty four nineteen. You score three
minutes left third quarter, failed two point conversion. He's got
nine carries twenty three yards. What do we always say?
Fall forward?
Speaker 1 (13:09):
Listen, just get the ball hit the line of scrimmage,
fall forward. But I got a two yard carry.
Speaker 3 (13:15):
But what I really wanted to have happened. And this
is not anti Sean Payton, you know me. I hate
coaching stupidity when when you've got the opportunity to go
into halftime with a lead like they did. Uh, and
then you call passing players on first and second down
when the Chargers are still sitting on three timeouts inexplicably
on three timeouts as well. But they they go, and
(13:37):
the Chargers are able to do the free kick field
goal to give them a three point boost going into halftime.
I really hope that comes back and bite you in
the ass.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
I just do coaching.
Speaker 3 (13:49):
Malfeason should not be rewarded.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
Yeah, no, no, look, it's it's uh, it's really fun
and it's fun to see the look and look. That's
been the most fun thing tonight is to see the
the field goal kick though after the fair catch, where hey,
there's no rushing you can just bang it. You know,
I'm really surprised you don't see that more. You know,
there's there's opportunities to see something. I'm really surprised you
don't see stuff like that more. But it really there's
(14:13):
nobody rushing. It's kind of weird to see. But that's
been my favorite play of the game.
Speaker 3 (14:17):
So far because you had the penalty right, so add
fifteen and then a lot of consternation confusion. Last one
that was attempted was in twenty nineteen by Joey Sly
against Tampa sixty yarder game played in London, and he
missed it. The last conversion the Great Ray Wersing nineteen
seventy six.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
Woof, man, I'll tell you a free kick. So again
a big three points there for the Chargers. They trail
twenty four to nineteen three minutes to go in the
third quarter. We'll keep you updated on this game throughout
the night tonight. It looks like Justin Herbert's elbow is
getting worked on for a cut. Oh just like it's
like me in the back, like me in the bathroom.
I gotta cut there. But to put put a little
(14:59):
bit of an aseptica, They're gonna put a little bit
of all right, I got some massive tracing, gonna put
a banda job.
Speaker 3 (15:03):
How often do you cut your head when you're shaving it?
Speaker 1 (15:06):
Uh, you know, don't say it. I'm not gonna because
I don't want to put it out there. I would
say not very often. I used to, but not very often. No,
now it's now, it's now. I'm pretty I'm pretty good
about it.
Speaker 3 (15:16):
They've also spent a lot of money on the technology
of newer, better razors.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean I think back to
when I first started shaving it. It was either had
the one blade or the two blades. And like you know,
once in a while, like when I would you travel
you buy I'd buy a travel blade. I go, oh
my god, it actually used to just that's cutting my
face up there. We used to actually shave with these things. Yeah,
but five blades really, No, five blades is awesome. It
(15:40):
gets right, it gets really really close. And I don't
cut myself all the time. This one blade thing is terrible.
Speaker 3 (15:46):
Why I knew all the all the older men that's
you know, groove beards and and then would go for
the the haircut and shave. It was always a straight razor.
Never hey I'm shaving at home. No, it was professionally done.
Always get my by touch up. Most of the guys
you can give them a quick fin and they give
you the five minutes you're done.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
You just said a finn like it's nineteen fifty seven. Hey,
how about I give you a finn and then your
sister and I gonna go swing dants and later out tonight.
How about that? Ah yeah yeah, see yeah, I mean
give me a fin, give me a finn ski? How
about that?
Speaker 3 (16:15):
A yeah southside Chicago, baby, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:17):
Finn skeke? How about a fin ski? Yeah, don't have
a finn skate.
Speaker 3 (16:19):
Anytime you can add a ski to things you want.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
Uh So more on this game, but coming up next, apparently,
well it's not often an eighteen year old kid is
running an NFL franchise. But apparently that's the case. After
the big story today, can I guess who? I can't
even the details. It feels like it's made up, but
it's not. Here's the story coming up next, Jason to Bike.
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four D Just underway in Los Angeles. Chargers have the football.
They trail the Broncos by five twenty four nineteen. We'll
have more on this game as it continues to unfold.
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Broncos can clinch a playoff berth with a win. Charges
right behind Hi at eight and six. But apparently, you know,
showing that it is it is clear that I don't
know there's any such a thing as rock bottom. Apparently
the New York Jets are run by Woody Johnson's eighteen
year old son, Brick. Ye, my brick, my sweet brick, Oh,
(18:36):
my sweet I just that's all I think of what
I hear? Yeah, it just I don't think of like, hey,
what a great name, man, I'd like to be named brick.
You know, we got we so last week we did
a story. A few minutes ago we had Stone Smart.
Now we have Brick Johnson. We got stones, we got bricks,
got everything's I don't think, oh, brick man, hey, how
you doing we do something about the rock on Brick.
(18:56):
I just oh my sweet brick, And like here's a
walking around like brick tamblin. He's only a grenade going
ah loud noise. It mean, I can't think of.
Speaker 3 (19:09):
Anything else at this point. You know what put that
out there?
Speaker 1 (19:14):
You know, we we had the bit the tip of
the Iceberg story yesterday that Brick Johnson, Woody Johnson's eighteen
year old son, Woody Johnson, owner of the Jets, has
a little bit of influence over some of the decisions
that are made with the Jets. Okay, all right, well
that's really really embarrassing. Hey no, no, no oh, that's
(19:34):
just the appetizer. We got a full five course meal
in dessert coming today. The Athletic published a story today
about the dysfunction of the Jets. That basically says that
Brick Johnson and and and to a lesser extent, Woody
Johnson's other younger son, Jack, make a lot of decisions
or help Woody Johnson make a lot of decisions to
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wit one of the many things. There's so many things,
but the number one I'm getting all the attention today.
The Jets could have traded for Jerry Judy in the offseason.
Judy who was They always waited for his potential to
get there in Denver. It couldn't get there for the
last three years. They move on, they send him to Cleveland.
He's just a guy. And then when Jameis Winston takes over. Now,
Jerry Judy is a top ten wide receiver in the NFL. Right, so,
(20:17):
Judy's been terrific over the last month. They had a
trade for Jerry Judy, but the deal was nixed, according
to the Athletic, because Jerry Judy's Madden rating was too
low and it was something that Brick Johnson talked about
with Woody. The Madden rating was too low and so
(20:39):
they didn't make the trade because his Madden rating was
too low.
Speaker 3 (20:42):
Well, shouldn't they have gone to the authors of the
rating to find out if they were wrong before they
made such a hasty decision.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
I mean, I mean they also say that they were
almost not going to sign John Simpson, one of their guards,
because he didn't have a really good Madden grade in
one of the categories, like like this is how this
is how an owner decides to make I'm gonna go
to me. I don't know who this guy am. I
gonna watch film not It's gonna go to Madden and
see what his rating is, se if he's any good. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (21:08):
That's also to be like Gil Brandt when he used
to admonish you, what's your system?
Speaker 1 (21:13):
Oh, kil Brant would never have worked with Woody Johnson.
Speaker 3 (21:15):
What's your system? Gil Brandt, the architect of these Cowboys
teams all those years ago, went into the Pro Football
Hall of Fame, was on the show guy we we
both knew once berating you asking what your system was of,
you know, charting people, And I guess now the algorithm
we know is what a little bit of pro football focus?
(21:36):
And then Madden Rating. I mean, I like, what's the wait?
Is there anything else in there?
Speaker 1 (21:41):
Every time I think, come on, man, you know this
is an NFL team. Stuff like this. This is a
really big deal. This is a big business man. This
is an organization that's worth in the multiple billions of dollars.
They don't do things like nope, nope, we get stuff
like this now. Yeah, Madden ratings, Madden ratings. My eighteen
year old son is a voice. And and and the
point that the let it makes, which is which is
a good one, is that, Hey, it's not that suddenly
(22:04):
Brick Johnson is is making all these decisions. It's that
when information is brought to Woody Johnson about a player
or a situation, you know, these professionals that have been
working in this their whole life, they'd say what they want.
And then Brick has an equal voice like that because yeah, no,
I hate it, Like I just picture him like sitting it,
like being on his phone, going who now hate him? Leave?
(22:25):
Say you goodbye, goodbye? All right, try try somebody else. No,
I'm not gonna usually what his rad and rating is.
We're we're not making this trade.
Speaker 3 (22:30):
We're not making this to be fair, I think there's
gotta be something in the water in New York, New
Jersey then, because remember Shane's kid, right, hey, off season
hard knocks right, he was a guy trying to yell
at him about moves. They should make guys, they should
draft guys, they should get away from all of that.
By the way, you missed the obvious Jack Johnson joke.
It was a great opportunity to do three minutes of
(22:50):
filibustering as Curious George, and you failed.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
Uh oh oh, Hey, if Curious George ran the Jets,
we'd be better. They bet he'd made great decisions. Boy,
are our team would change colors from a green to
a really bright looking yellow. It would be fantastic.
Speaker 3 (23:07):
What do you call that play? I don't know. It's
a scramble. He somehow gets out of trouble.
Speaker 1 (23:12):
Every time that Judge would lose, would come into a
press conference and go, George, I mean I really, honestly,
I'm telling you, I speak for a living. I've spoken
for a living for over twenty years of my life
and not would to continue to do so, you know,
for a while longer. I have no idea what to say.
At this point, I have no idea what to say
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to Here's a story that a Madden rating effects a
trade and an eighteen year old kid has influence over
the owner as far as what moves are made for
an organization. I really that absolutely baffles me. I don't
know what to say. I mean, as if as it's like, hey,
wait a minute, we heard the other night you talked
about the train wreck the Giants were the train wreck,
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the Raiders. No, we're the biggest train wreck. And suddenly
Cowboys fans are going, hey, maybe Jerry Jones and so
bad because he doesn't do stuff like this. I didn't
think Jerry Jones knows what Madden is. He just thinks
it's still John Madden. Oh is he doing the game
on Monday? Is he announced that he's good? He's good
him at summer all? They're really good to get I
gotta call them up, hang out we got if they're
doing the game, I gotta call uh. Really, I don't
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know what to say. Woody Johnson is just this is
an embarrassing story and the fact that get this gets out,
And not only that, but you had Joe Douglas, a
quote from him, who the Jets fired as a GM
a few weeks ago, said I answer to a teenager again.
This all according to the Athletic Report, I answer to
a teenager. They wanted to give the game ball after
Jeff Ulbrick's first win to Jeff Ulbrick, and Aaron Rodgers
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has the ball. It's a big emotional moment, and and
Brick decides to grab a football and give it to
Garrett Wilson and give this profanity lace speech before before
anybody else can do something and give it up. I mean,
it's insane, like the these are the stories, these are
the Jets, These are the Jets. And then today Garrett
Wilson says, I don't know if I want to be here.
I don't I don't know if I gonna be here
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long term. He could be traded the off season, Like
this is just this is just an absolute tire fire man.
But on the on my bingo card of reasons for
Jets dysfunction, like listening to an eighteen year old college
freshman and and and paying attention to Madden ratings for
who you're gonna who you're gonna go after and free
agency you're trade for Like that's like that's new man,
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Like that is like completely bottom of the bartrel. That
is like rock bottom. And I don't know, man, I
know the Jets are gonna try to use some TNT
and blow up that rock bottom. But today really might
be the rock bottom point of the franchise. I don't
know that it gets lower than the owner listens to
his kid and and and yeah, and we we pay
I pay attention to Madden ratings like this is a
lot of a sitcom.
Speaker 3 (25:43):
Yeah no, but that's that's where I'm headed here, the
dramaedy that is shrinking. Uh as we get ready for
the season finale, right, Siegel and Harrison Ford, Kristan Miller
and and McGinley and everybody else rolling after to where
I want to sit down with the Johnsons and just
kind of talking out with him. So you got that part,
the serious part. The other is, hey man, all we
do is complain that there's no succession plans for a
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lot of these families. He just decided he found the
guy at eighteen. Right, I'm sitting in with my Chicago
White Sox right of Jerry Reinsdorf. What happens, I don't know.
Is he gonna sell the team? Well, no question here,
you got an eighteen year old who's getting on the
job draining right now. I'm all via the Madden portal.
Speaker 1 (26:26):
I just I just missed my calling. Man, I really did,
like nowadays anything the son of a rich owner. Yeah,
I mean, if I was just the son of a
rich owner, I'd be running the Jets. I'd been running
the Jets for years. It would be awesome, right, you know,
broadcasters getting head coaching jobs and GM jobs Like, I
missed my time, I missed my window.
Speaker 3 (26:43):
Now if you were the owner, would you be in
the booth like Jerry Jones for all the interviews he
does whatever? Yeah, I've been surprised that he doesn't just
show up after halftime with a headset on. All right,
I'm gonna call the rest of this one with you.
Speaker 1 (26:56):
You think he needs a headset? You don't think he's
got all the head coach coaches have get an implant
in the side of their head so they can hear me.
Speaker 3 (27:04):
Oh, I meant As a radio or TV host, all.
Speaker 1 (27:08):
I gotta do is put my two fingers together, and
you hear every word to say, so just so you know,
and you can never turn it off, so you you
gotta be able to listen to what I have to say.
But like Jerry Jones, Like I'd rather have Jerry Jones
than than Woody Johnson because I know, like, right now,
we have no future. We have absolutely no future, absolutely none.
Speaker 3 (27:26):
But he's eighteen, he'll grow into Come on, we're talking
about all these would be coordinators turn head coaches.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
Screw that. This guy's got on the job draining dude.
Even Brian Cox knew his kids couldn't say, Hey, listen,
none of you, none of you can do it. Right,
I'm going off the board for my pick. Right, you
can't do it or you or you no, no, I'm
going off the board in succession.
Speaker 3 (27:48):
And meanwhile, you know, while he's giving up that family business,
he's making a boatload of money telling me to go
order delicious fries.
Speaker 1 (27:56):
Oh yeah, yeah, I bought Ump Bump bump. Uh. I
mean I I I can't believe that this is real.
I can't believe this is a real story. And and
mainly the fact that the Jets push back on this
is just sort of pushback, like it's like, oh, it's
ridiculous to think that that that brick Johnson owns that.
You know, you're you're you're talking about a kid having
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influence over team. But yeah, but a lot of other
stuff hasn't been really just hey, we're deflecting that or
we're denying this, like Joe Douglas's quotes about I listened
to an eighteen year old and the Madden rating about it,
and the Jets even even say the mad rating was
a part of it, right, it was a part of
the discussion, Like hell, is a Madden rating a part
of anything?
Speaker 3 (28:35):
Well, I mean, look, you want to take look, you
want to take in information from wherever, and long ago
you decided this was valid. Otherwise the NFL and their
partnership would have pushed back on the evaluators, wouldn't they
have because it would have been a bad representation in
the league. So on some level, you've enabled this kind
of activity. And I have to wonder if in the
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deep bowels of a lot of these other teams, if
that's not how they're making their decis visions, they've created
super teams. Then watch these guys run Amucket. It's like, Aha,
look at how great he is if.
Speaker 1 (29:06):
We run this play, I mean, this is I don't
know the I don't I'm really I don't know that
you can have a more embarrassing story involving how a
professional franchise is run than this, And I'm sure, like, oh,
there's gonna be you know, old TV, old newspaper reporters going,
let me tell you about how so and so is
run in nineteen sixty six. Like okay, that's like, you know,
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before we even had color television. Okay, So I mean no,
I mean like now in twenty twenty four, Like, I
don't know, it can get more embarrassing than this.
Speaker 3 (29:34):
But that's the thing, though, how can we get more embarrassing?
This actually gets out? So that means that that people
are finally at their wits end, and it's like, all right,
the old man needs to, you know, have his his
come to Jesus moment here, and we're gonna out every
bit of it and you're either just more laughing stock
or maybe actually reevaluate how you're doing things. Likelihood is
that it remains the former. But the other is in
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all these stories, right, the plenty of things that are
in the news wire today, it's like, remember how much
everybody used to lament the last few years. Wow, we've
lost access. We've lost this ability and that connection that
we used to have. We don't get to hang around
the locker rooms, we don't build this that The other well,
give me all those stories.
Speaker 1 (30:14):
Let's go.
Speaker 3 (30:15):
Let's talk about the drinking binges after, you know, on
a road trip, and how you might have come up
with a couple of plays when you were a beat
writer for any team USA. I mean, there's all sorts
of stories in the Naked City that I'm waiting for
to be exposed.
Speaker 1 (30:30):
Let's go. I mean, I mean, I know there's gonna
be some, but I mean, dude, it's twenty twenty four
and Madden ratings and an eight reen year old kid
apparently has influence.
Speaker 3 (30:41):
Is because his name is Brick? Is that just really
getting you? Like, if it would have been the even
though he's younger, if it would have just been old
Jack Johnson would not have said that, would TJ.
Speaker 1 (30:51):
Who's to say, Okay, we're not gonna sorry. I mean,
I really, I don't know how you get more embarrassing
this in the history of sports. I don't understand. I
read this. What did you expect? This is how it's run,
This is how this is how a professional sports team
is run. Like, I can't imagine where if you're Joe Douglas.
(31:11):
Now I feel bad, you know, as much as Joe
Douglas Jets GM, like, you know, screwed up things. Couldn't
get the offensive line, although he got the offensive line
right of the way out the door, so thanks jo D.
Like can you imagine like if his life was, Hey, yeah,
you got a big ten am meeting with Woody and Brick.
Oh great, thanks, okay, I'll bring my stuff in, you know,
and then and then you know, he's he's got all
this stuff and all the tape y everything else, and
(31:33):
Brickers just sit again. Bricks is sitting there on his
phone or his iPad going no, no, no, no, don't
do that, Dad, Dad, don't do that. Dad no Dad,
Dad No no no no no no no no. Like
I really I can't. I can't understand, and I can't understand.
And this is what hit me today. What I'm like,
oh my god, Like Aaron Rodgers knows all of this, right,
(31:54):
he's been in for all he knows all of this,
and he still said yesterday he wants to come back,
like I'll take less money to be a Jet and
I'll mentor a quarterback to be a Jet. He's so
desperate because he knows it's the Jets are nothing in
the NFL. It's got to kill him to go. This
is the team I gotta pledge little loyalty to and
fealty that I have to just say I want to
be back. This is the team that runs things this
(32:15):
way with Madden ratings. This is the team. This is
my But I'm desperate. I'm so deaf. Like he knows
all this and still he wants to come back to
the Jets.
Speaker 3 (32:24):
He just loves football, Oh my god, or the idea
that not playing football takes away any of the the
juice that he's got in the larger world.
Speaker 1 (32:34):
Exit out about a Fresca exit swollen down The Giants
Smith Show with Mike Carmen Live. Oh it's my fault
because I could have picked the Giants. You could have
not your fault, but you know, your whole shrinking thing
gives me an idea. We'll get to come. But first
we have a leap change in Los Angeles between the
Broncos and the Chargers. Martin Weiss has that more. What's
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trending right now in the wide world of sports MMed up.
Speaker 3 (32:59):
That's all right.
Speaker 4 (33:00):
You saw Josh Palmer make one of the better catches
of the year on a two point conversion. Right now,
the Los Angeles Chargers have a twenty seven to twenty
four lead over the Denver Broncos, who have been leading
this game and in its entirety until right now. It's
again eight points so far for the Chargers in the
fourth quarter. Dus Ervers got one touchdown. He's twenty twenty
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four two hundred and thirty six.
Speaker 1 (33:23):
Yards through the air.
Speaker 4 (33:24):
The leading rusher for the Chargers as well is Herbert
twenty nine yards on the ground. Go Uvige of twenty
seven just seventy seven for the whole team two rushing touchdowns.
Bo Nicks is twenty three for thirty two for two
thirteen through the year and two touchdowns. Audric estimate the
leading rusher for the Broncos forty one yards and a
touchdown as well. Denver does have the ball approaching a
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third and eight right now with ten minutes left in
the fourth quarter. See if they can keep something alive
here in the NBA right now in overtime one minute
twenty seconds left in overtime. The Spurs have a thirty
one point thirty rather to won twenty six lead over
the Hawks. Victor Winbayama something slight forty two points, six rebounds,
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four blocks, try young not to be denied twenty three points,
sixteen assists and three steals. Clippers have a one hundred
and four to ninety two lead over the Dallas Mavericks.
Spencer Dinwiddie leading Dallas in points with nineteen. The Pacers
have a eighty six to seventy five lead over the Suns.
Pascal Siakam the high man fifteen points, thirteen rebounds at
the half, the Knicks leading the Timberwolves by twenty two
(34:29):
seventy three to fifty one. Karl Anthony Towns in that
revenge game, twenty two points, twelve rebounds. Julius Randall, who
was traded for with twenty one points, the Trail Blazers
leading the Nuggets of forty to thirty seven, the Lakers
leading the Kings thirty nine to thirty three. Earlier today
we saw the Golden State Warriors get salacked one forty
four to ninety three. The final score. The Memphis Grizzly
(34:53):
is putting it on them. Brandon Pitzemski, the leading scorer
for Golden State, Al Dama the leading scorer for a
Memphis here John Murray not so much, twenty one points,
fourteen rebounds, a.
Speaker 1 (35:03):
NFL injury news. You know it's spent.
Speaker 4 (35:05):
Alva Kamara's growing injury might be season ending for the
New Orleans Saints. Lions running back David Montgomery optimistic that
his knee injury is not season ending. He's trying to
rehab and hopefully return some point this postseason. Patrick Mahomes
off the injury report, good to go for Saturday's game
against the Texans. DJ humphreyes out left tackle. Wide receiver
Hollywood Brown is trying to make his debut. Head coach
(35:27):
Eddy Reesay's decent chance. There not such for George Pickens,
who will miss Saturday's game against Baltimore for Pittsburgh.
Speaker 1 (35:34):
Same with Justin Fields.
Speaker 4 (35:35):
TJ. Watt looks like he should go. Isaac Garrendo will
miss for the forty nine Ers. He's got a hamstring
Sunday's game against Miami. I should say he's a long shot.
And Jason Smith your Jets interview Jim Naggy, the guy
who runs the Senior Bowl down in Mobile for their
general manager Vacancy. I was at the Senior Bowl last
year and everywhere you go through Mobile, it's plastered the
draft starts here.
Speaker 1 (35:56):
So Jason, he might know a little thing or two
about the draft. Good luck back to you.
Speaker 3 (36:00):
Good luck with that, Martin.
Speaker 1 (36:03):
Here's the thing. I get interviewed on Saturday, just so
you know, this is where the Jets are. I have
you with Saturday. I like you Saturday too, thanks Buddy.
Jason Smith Show with Mike Carmon Live the tire Rag
dot Com Studios. Uh, I mean well again, I have
a really big, fun idea that I think can really
work thanks to this crazy ass Jet story from today.
But coming up next it is college football playoff Eve,
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the big one tomorrow night. Who's walking away with the
dub and head into the next round? Mike and I
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The Jason Smith Show with Mike Carmon Live the Tirag
dot Com Studios. Chargers lead by three, twenty seven to
twenty four, but Broncos have the football near midfield about
six minutes left to go, so the Broncos are gonna
tie this thing up. We'll have more on this game
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coming up a little bit.
Speaker 3 (37:08):
But real shame if that field goal at the end
of the half came back.
Speaker 1 (37:14):
Just appreciate the aesthetic beauty of a free kick field goal.
We don't get last time it happened nineteen seventy six,
Mike Harmon nineteen seventy six, Come on, let's go. But again,
more on that game coming up in a few minutes.
But tomorrow and this weekend college football playoff kicks off
tomorrow night, we'll be on talking you through this. Indiana
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and No tre Dame, and I would love to be
able to pick Indiana in this game. Indiana is a
little bit better than you think. But how good are they?
It's easy to say, well, they haven't played Anyboddy, but
that's really the truth because the one team they played
in the top twenty five is Ohio State and they
lost by three touchdowns. But this is part of what
you're gonna get now on a year to year basis,
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because the Big the Big two, the se see in
the Big and the Big ten have gotten so big
with so many teams you're gonna avoid really good teams
year to year, and sometimes you're gonna see teams like
Indiana rise up and have a great eleven in one year.
Why well, because well outside of Ohio State, you know,
they didn't play Penn State, they didn't play Oregon, they
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didn't play you know, they were able to avoid these teams.
So you're gonna see this more often than not where
you're gonna hey, here's an oh, by the way team
that we didn't expect to be that good, but here
they are in the playoff with eleven to one record
because they avoided all the really good teams. Like, look,
see I love Syracuse' year this year at nine and three,
but look, they avoided a lot of really good teams, right,
they avoted a lot of exactly. But when it comes
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to the playoff, like how good is India? Curtis Rourke
is a pretty good quarterback, but Indiana is kind of
they're not plotting, but they're just consistent and they can
do a lot of things pretty well. And they've been
able to do what they needed to do uh so
far this season, and they have a great energy about them.
But Notre Dame is just a team that's on a
(38:59):
different level, and I would love to see Indiana pull
this big up setting. Oh my goodness, look at where
you're going on and you look sick. Netty's coach of
the Year in college football. How great it is. But
this is where the magic carpet ride comes to an end.
I don't see this being a close I know a
lot of people see this close order Notre Dame. They'll
pull it out there playing No. I think Notre Dame
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is gonna run over Indiana. That's what they do is
they run the football. You're gonna see a game where
three guys could have over eighty yards rushing in this game,
and it's just gonna wind up being a big, physical
blowout of Indiana. And because Indiana is not dynamic enough,
they're not a team. He will go up and down
the field and score. And you know, my, Indiana is
a good team all around, but Notre Dame is just better.
(39:41):
They have the better athlete, the bigger wins. They got
four wins against top twenty five teams. I see Notre
Dame winning this like thirty eight to thirteen, and it's
not close.
Speaker 3 (39:49):
Well, and that's it, right, over six yards per carry,
you got twenty different guys who caught a pass. I
don't know that that has any statistical significance other than
that's kind of cool that you get that far down
to want one. Yeah, you get one too. But you
look at Notre Dame's efficiency throughout the year Indiana when
they did have to step up in class truly struggled.
You go from a points per possession and yards per
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carry and all that stuff, and it dropped off a cliff. Now,
Signetti's either the best thing to happen for you in
college football. Look, he's a great quote, there's no question
about that. Look at my resume. But it's also the
from the larger team building of how he was able
to put this squad together on the fly and make
it hummed so quickly. It's either the best case or
(40:32):
worst case, depending on your perspective of the current status
of college football. All that being said, seven points is
the spread, fifty two and a half the total. We'll
see what the win factor is. And you know me,
it's tough to go and be all Notre Dame. Notre
Dame because of all the people that adopted them in
Chicago all the years. You know that whole thing of
where did you go to school kind of thing always
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comes back, but we always ask it. It's always part
of it.
Speaker 1 (40:58):
That's who you are.
Speaker 3 (40:59):
But the Notre Dame squad just too strong. Riley Leonard
and company roll away, Yeah, I mean again.
Speaker 1 (41:05):
Indiana is a great story, but the clock strikes midnight
and Notre Dame has just been so good since that
Northern Illinois loss, They've been on another level. Coming up next,
we'll have more on the latest development on Thursday Night Football,
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are Thursday night football, eight and a half to go
in the third quarter. The Broncos with another field goal.
I feel like they've scored every single time they have
had the football. Uh. They lead the Chargers twenty four
to thirteen. It's been a big night for bow Nicks.
He's twenty out of twenty seven hundred and ninety six yards,
a couple of touchdowns. I really Mike when we talked
(01:12):
about this game last night, and you know, we're picking this,
and I said, Okay, the Chargers defense had a really
bad uh Sunday against the Bucks, but this is the
best defense in the NFL they've had. I'm sure they've
had a rough last couple of days of practice. They're
gonna have it working tonight. Nope. They look like they
are unprepared for anything the Broncos want to do on offense,
(01:32):
Like like every set, third and eleven, Hey, we're not
ready for that screen pass and she has a screen
pass for fourteen yards fifteen yards, Like everything the Broncos
have wanted to do on offense, the Chargers look like
they're not ready for.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
I thought you were gonna get some uh, some lift
and then you're gonna get Perryman back and Mays in
the lineup and all of this, Oh no, eight, they're gone.
So all of a sudden, you're you're rotating back in
and shuffling. But to your point, outside of his dopey
clock management in the end of the half, which we'll
get to in a minute, Sean Payton with a masterclass
(02:05):
in that first half. Right, you look at the game
against Tampa. The Chargers failed to force a punt in
that game, and then the first three drives for the Broncos.
Here the excellence of execution, three straight touchdowns. Everybody plays,
everybody wins, unless you're a Javonte Williams fantasy owner. Then
you get to watch the other other running back score.
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But for bow Knicks, on the run, on the move,
and just plenty of throwing lanes and opportunities. And for
the Chargers, it goes back to the same question we've
been asking all along. Will they be able to score
enough points to stay with teams?
Speaker 1 (02:41):
You know, because the Chargers is its own thing, But
just you know a bit about Sean Payton is that Look,
I've said it all year long. He's the coach of
the year in the NFL. He has just a bunch
of guys. He's got a bunch of guys on this
team and bow Knicks. If bo Knicks was much more
sought after or was going to be more of a start,
he would have been drafted higher. But he wasn't. And
(03:01):
what he's been able to do with this team nine
and five and now a double digit lead midway through
the third quarter, looking for their tenth win when it
just defies logic that this team should be this good
and they can clinch a playoff berth with a win tonight,
and they don't have anything running the football that scares you.
They don't have anybody catching the football that really scares you.
Bo Nix is nice, but wow, does he really scare you? No,
(03:23):
he's making good throws. He's better than people anticipated. But
you know, you see Denver and all of a sudden,
it's it's there, so much greater than some of their parts.
But the game plan coming in tonight, clearly Sean Payton
knew what he wanted to do, knew what he could
catch the Chargers defense napping at or catch them on
roller skates on, and that's what he's doing. What he
(03:44):
is he has the Chargers completely off balance. And I
look at it and I go, man, I need to
forget how good a coach he was. You forget? Yeah,
I would give up a first round pick for him,
But Sean Payton, do you kid not give a course?
I give up a first round pick to get Sean
Payton at this point, to get him away from the
Saints because he walked like he has turned out to
be that guy, and I think as time goes on,
(04:04):
you're talking about a potential playoff clinching night tonight. This
is where Sean Payton's like, Yeah, there's other great teams
in the NFL. Everybody's doing really great things. But really,
you know, with Sean McDermott doing anything different, No is
John Harpad doing anything different. No, it's Andy Reid doing
anything different. No, Nick Sirianni, Well you can't stand him.
He's not doing anything different. But here's all of a
(04:25):
sudden Sean Payton from, Hey, we're gonna send away our
quarterback and we're gonna eat a lot of money and
we're gonna basically start over. Nope, our start over is
we're gonna be one of the top seeds in the
AFC in the playoffs. Yeah, I know, anybody else should
get a vote right now for Coach of the Year.
Speaker 3 (04:40):
Yeah, I'm surprised the running game hasn't been better in
the process. I guess that would be the only thing
that really kind of stands out is that hasn't gotten going.
But they've got two touchdowns today and a would be
clinching games. So all of that renders moot as you
go to the playoffs, and but you look at the
schedules and it's some of what we talk talked about,
(05:00):
and even just looking at the game coming into tonight.
You gotta win the games that you're supposed to and
guess what the games in the margins. And now that
Broncos have done it with more style points, they've had
a few more blowout wins than we've seen from the
Los Angeles Chargers to get to their nine wins.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
Yeah, it's not like they're winning games like sixteen thirteen
and twelve ten in the snow and oh they won
three to nothing in the slush. Now, they were the
best offense in the NFL over the last five six
that's how a ton of points.
Speaker 3 (05:31):
Obviously, we have that game against the Chiefs and we
can talk about that one sixteen fourteen to l But
I get I guess the point I'm getting to is
the only team they beat that is quote unquote good,
is Tampa always sensetember No, no, no.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
But only beaters on this beats on the schedule.
Speaker 3 (05:50):
But all I'm trying to say is, let's not crown anybody. Okay,
you're taking care of business. Yes, you crushed the five
and a half or six and a half or wherever
you got in on their win total. For Sean Payton,
it's it's a nice job. Don't get me wrong. I
thought bo Nix was a better quarterback than most and
that their roster really wasn't that bad. Vance Joseph should
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be your defensive court. Is there a defensive Coordinator of
the Year award? Like we have all those college awards?
Do they get something? He carried them? You want to
the year?
Speaker 1 (06:23):
Yeah, Now the offense has been carrying in the last
few weeks, so you want to give it. You're ready
to give the defensive Coach of the Year to Vance.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
Joe, I said, if there's a defensive coordinator, sure, that's
what I'm.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
Saying for you want to give him the award all.
You want to give him that award, But you won't
give Sean Payton coach of the Year yet, No, because
again you hate Sean Payton, just saying, I what did
he do to you about.
Speaker 3 (06:50):
A fan of how everybody's gone out of their way
to genuflect to the guy through the years. He increased
won Super Bowl a long time ago with every player
we kill them. Ah man, that was so long ago.
Or they only got one. All right, he got one?
Wait another, I'm.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
Looking to see if somewhere, hey, you know sources Sean
Payton rebuffs Bears for head coaching job, Bears to higher
eber Flus like, I'm looking to see if that was somewhere,
because you really are anti Sean Payton. That's amazing man, A.
Speaker 3 (07:20):
Great coach, no question about it.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
Go win some more though, But you but you're ready
to give his defensive coordinator, if the defensive coordinator of
the Year award, but you don't want to give him
the head coach.
Speaker 3 (07:29):
They're tied for the league lead and fewest points allowed
per game.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
But you said there's more to be played, there's more
to be done. Beat up.
Speaker 3 (07:38):
Well, they're gonna get roasted by the Cincinnati offense a
week from now.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
Okay, all right, all right, all right, well anti shok
hang on, hang on Twitter, Mike Harmon, hate Sean Payton,
anyone with information, Why hit me back?
Speaker 3 (07:52):
There's not a matter of hate. Let's be level headed
about I'm not a hyperbole. Let's, you know, bow to
a guy.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
You're not ready to say, who the who? Who do
you think is the best coach in the NFL. Right now,
then if it's not Sean Payton, who isn't What do
you like with this roster that they've had and the
division that they're in? Give me, give me no, don't
that's it? Wow, Mike Tom for Kevin O'Connell. You're gonna
say Jeff Albrick.
Speaker 3 (08:16):
Actually no, I would either go Tomlin or probably more
likely O'Connell, because remember, everybody, I love their roster. It
was all just what are you getting out of the quarterback?
And boy did he coax a lot out of the quarterback.
Now you can't tell the tale without Brian Flores and
what that defense is meant. But you know, because it'll
mean more to hurt you. I just yell Sam, Sam, Sam,
(08:39):
every chance I get you.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
Look that that's the you know you look at Minnesota.
I'm with you. Kevin O'Connell's terrific coach. He's a big
quarterback whisper, He's done a tremendous job. He's got a
really good roster, you know, I mean Minnesota.
Speaker 3 (08:50):
They were still projected really good roster because everybody was
everybody was expecting the Bears. And I tried to warn you,
and you screwed me, and we knew the Packers and
the Lions we're gonna be good. So look, coming into
the year, the Vikings were picked last in most boards, and.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
He now the Uh so as we differ a little
bit on Coach of the Year. Uh. The thing about
the Chargers, okay, and they are driving now potentially. Uh,
they're gonna have a first and goal after a late
hit when Herbert slid down. Uh, there's gonna be a
late hit. Yeah, you lead with your fore arm. We
saw that last weekend Jacksonville.
Speaker 3 (09:26):
That's gonna a good move.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
Uh. They're gonna have a first and goal from inside
the eight.
Speaker 3 (09:32):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
But here's the thing about the Chargers is that the
Broncos jumped out to a big lead and the Chargers
still seem bent on we are going to run the
football when we don't run the football really well? Right
when JK Dobbins, Yes, JK Dobbins, they run the football well.
But this is a Charger team that you know, A,
you're not gonna be able to sustain this running game
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because these guys get hurt and B you can't just
put anybody out there and and decide, hey, we're gonna
go and we're just gonna try to run football. You
have to really just understand that. Okay, your best playmaker
is Justin Herbert and Lad McConkie, and you're kind of
driven that way. And if you want to have a
sledgehammer balanced offense, that's great. But man, the number of
times the Charge go Okay, first down run, first down,
(10:13):
run for second down, and nine, here's another run, It's
like you're just running with a bunch of guys, right.
I mean, Gus Edwards goes in from a few yards
out for a touchdown here to cut the lead. But
by and large, Gus Edwards has been a guy. Right.
He's got eight carries for eighteen yards to night, they've
run twenty times for sixty eight yards. Herbert's the best
run at Rusher tonight with four scrambles, had a big
scramble for a first down. So it's I feel like
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if the Chargers really want to do damage and they're
not just happy, Hey, we're happy what we're doing. We're competing.
We probably are gonna make the playoffs. That's really happy. Now,
if you really want to want to do something, you
have to open up the offense a little bit and
understand that. Okay, we're not gonna be able to win
every game seventeen to ten. You know we're not. You
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know you're not nineteen to sixteen because as Harbaugh is seeing, Hey,
wait a minute, maybe my defense isn't quite as good
as I thought it was. Like when your defense was great,
you think that way. Look, that's what Mike Tomlin's been
lulled into for the last few years. Hey, I only
want to score sixteen points. So don't you want to
score No.
Speaker 3 (11:10):
No, no, no, no, no, no, no no no.
Speaker 1 (11:12):
I we're gonna we're only gonna give up ten. We're
only gonna get up thirteen. We're only gonna give up nine.
Like if you've got to understand that, Okay, maybe this
is not quite the defense that it was because here's
two games in a row and this is in December
where you got worked by Tampa and now you're getting
worked by Denver. I mean, I gotta understand. Okay, yeah,
you need to button things down defensively, but you gotta
open things up offensively more. You gotta be able to
(11:34):
score points with with the other big teams if you're
gonna win, because you're not good enough to be that. Hey,
We're just gonna put our defense out there, run the
football a bunch, throw and we want to and expect
to walk away with a win. It's not gonna happen.
Speaker 3 (11:44):
Well, the point is that you don't have enough weapons
in your receiving corps to open up the game to
really do any damage. Now, do you as much as
I like Stone Smart because his name is Stone Smart,
his last name is Smart with the extra team, what
do you like better?
Speaker 1 (11:59):
That is? For name is Stone, or that his last
name is smu.
Speaker 3 (12:01):
I think it's without the combination. I don't think it works.
Speaker 1 (12:05):
Uh, okay, Well if it well, I don't know. Well, okay, sure,
if as well as his first name was Get with
two t's, that'd be pretty cool.
Speaker 3 (12:12):
Well, I mean, look, if they were that much on
the nose, he would have that much of a more
of a chip on his shoulder and propelled to even
further greatness. But the loss of Disley was big for them, right.
He was their second leading receiver to Lad McConkey, who
somehow still finds his way into wide open space in
the secondary. He's five for five seventy yards tonight. But
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beyond that, who do you fear in that receiving corps.
There's nobody, and nobody's emerged. You didn't get go and
find anybody to bolster things deadline or waiver wires or
any of those things. And then the rushing game you
lost the guy that was averaging five yards of pop.
Now you knew you were playing with fire when you
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brought both he and the Gus Buss in. Gus Buss
who just scored again twenty four nineteen. You score three
minutes left third quarter, failed two point conversion. He's got
nine carries twenty three yards. What do we always say?
Fall forward?
Speaker 1 (13:09):
Listen, just get the ball hit the line of scrimmage,
fall forward. But I got a two yard carry.
Speaker 3 (13:15):
But what I really wanted to have happened. And this
is not anti Sean Payton, you know me. I hate
coaching stupidity when when you've got the opportunity to go
into halftime with a lead like they did. Uh, and
then you call passing players on first and second down
when the Chargers are still sitting on three timeouts inexplicably
on three timeouts as well. But they they go, and
(13:37):
the Chargers are able to do the free kick field
goal to give them a three point boost going into halftime.
I really hope that comes back and bite you in
the ass.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
I just do coaching.
Speaker 3 (13:49):
Malfeason should not be rewarded.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
Yeah, no, no, look, it's it's uh, it's really fun
and it's fun to see the look and look. That's
been the most fun thing tonight is to see the
the field goal kick though after the fair catch, where hey,
there's no rushing you can just bang it. You know,
I'm really surprised you don't see that more. You know,
there's there's opportunities to see something. I'm really surprised you
don't see stuff like that more. But it really there's
(14:13):
nobody rushing. It's kind of weird to see. But that's
been my favorite play of the game.
Speaker 3 (14:17):
So far because you had the penalty right, so add
fifteen and then a lot of consternation confusion. Last one
that was attempted was in twenty nineteen by Joey Sly
against Tampa sixty yarder game played in London, and he
missed it. The last conversion the Great Ray Wersing nineteen
seventy six.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
Woof, man, I'll tell you a free kick. So again
a big three points there for the Chargers. They trail
twenty four to nineteen three minutes to go in the
third quarter. We'll keep you updated on this game throughout
the night tonight. It looks like Justin Herbert's elbow is
getting worked on for a cut. Oh just like it's
like me in the back, like me in the bathroom.
I gotta cut there. But to put put a little
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bit of an aseptica, They're gonna put a little bit
of all right, I got some massive tracing, gonna put
a banda job.
Speaker 3 (15:03):
How often do you cut your head when you're shaving it?
Speaker 1 (15:06):
Uh, you know, don't say it. I'm not gonna because
I don't want to put it out there. I would
say not very often. I used to, but not very often. No,
now it's now, it's now. I'm pretty I'm pretty good
about it.
Speaker 3 (15:16):
They've also spent a lot of money on the technology
of newer, better razors.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean I think back to
when I first started shaving it. It was either had
the one blade or the two blades. And like you know,
once in a while, like when I would you travel
you buy I'd buy a travel blade. I go, oh
my god, it actually used to just that's cutting my
face up there. We used to actually shave with these things. Yeah,
but five blades really, No, five blades is awesome. It
(15:40):
gets right, it gets really really close. And I don't
cut myself all the time. This one blade thing is terrible.
Speaker 3 (15:46):
Why I knew all the all the older men that's
you know, groove beards and and then would go for
the the haircut and shave. It was always a straight razor.
Never hey I'm shaving at home. No, it was professionally done.
Always get my by touch up. Most of the guys
you can give them a quick fin and they give
you the five minutes you're done.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
You just said a finn like it's nineteen fifty seven. Hey,
how about I give you a finn and then your
sister and I gonna go swing dants and later out tonight.
How about that? Ah yeah yeah, see yeah, I mean
give me a fin, give me a finn ski? How
about that?
Speaker 3 (16:15):
A yeah southside Chicago, baby, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:17):
Finn skeke? How about a fin ski? Yeah, don't have
a finn skate.
Speaker 3 (16:19):
Anytime you can add a ski to things you want.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
Uh So more on this game, but coming up next, apparently,
well it's not often an eighteen year old kid is
running an NFL franchise. But apparently that's the case. After
the big story today, can I guess who? I can't
even the details. It feels like it's made up, but
it's not. Here's the story coming up next, Jason to Bike.
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four D Just underway in Los Angeles. Chargers have the football.
They trail the Broncos by five twenty four nineteen. We'll
have more on this game as it continues to unfold.
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Broncos can clinch a playoff berth with a win. Charges
right behind Hi at eight and six. But apparently, you know,
showing that it is it is clear that I don't
know there's any such a thing as rock bottom. Apparently
the New York Jets are run by Woody Johnson's eighteen
year old son, Brick. Ye, my brick, my sweet brick, Oh,
(18:36):
my sweet I just that's all I think of what
I hear? Yeah, it just I don't think of like, hey,
what a great name, man, I'd like to be named brick.
You know, we got we so last week we did
a story. A few minutes ago we had Stone Smart.
Now we have Brick Johnson. We got stones, we got bricks,
got everything's I don't think, oh, brick man, hey, how
you doing we do something about the rock on Brick.
(18:56):
I just oh my sweet brick, And like here's a
walking around like brick tamblin. He's only a grenade going
ah loud noise. It mean, I can't think of.
Speaker 3 (19:09):
Anything else at this point. You know what put that
out there?
Speaker 1 (19:14):
You know, we we had the bit the tip of
the Iceberg story yesterday that Brick Johnson, Woody Johnson's eighteen
year old son, Woody Johnson, owner of the Jets, has
a little bit of influence over some of the decisions
that are made with the Jets. Okay, all right, well
that's really really embarrassing. Hey no, no, no oh, that's
(19:34):
just the appetizer. We got a full five course meal
in dessert coming today. The Athletic published a story today
about the dysfunction of the Jets. That basically says that
Brick Johnson and and and to a lesser extent, Woody
Johnson's other younger son, Jack, make a lot of decisions
or help Woody Johnson make a lot of decisions to
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wit one of the many things. There's so many things,
but the number one I'm getting all the attention today.
The Jets could have traded for Jerry Judy in the offseason.
Judy who was They always waited for his potential to
get there in Denver. It couldn't get there for the
last three years. They move on, they send him to Cleveland.
He's just a guy. And then when Jameis Winston takes over. Now,
Jerry Judy is a top ten wide receiver in the NFL. Right, so,
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Judy's been terrific over the last month. They had a
trade for Jerry Judy, but the deal was nixed, according
to the Athletic, because Jerry Judy's Madden rating was too
low and it was something that Brick Johnson talked about
with Woody. The Madden rating was too low and so
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they didn't make the trade because his Madden rating was
too low.
Speaker 3 (20:42):
Well, shouldn't they have gone to the authors of the
rating to find out if they were wrong before they
made such a hasty decision.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
I mean, I mean they also say that they were
almost not going to sign John Simpson, one of their guards,
because he didn't have a really good Madden grade in
one of the categories, like like this is how this
is how an owner decides to make I'm gonna go
to me. I don't know who this guy am. I
gonna watch film not It's gonna go to Madden and
see what his rating is, se if he's any good. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (21:08):
That's also to be like Gil Brandt when he used
to admonish you, what's your system?
Speaker 1 (21:13):
Oh, kil Brant would never have worked with Woody Johnson.
Speaker 3 (21:15):
What's your system? Gil Brandt, the architect of these Cowboys
teams all those years ago, went into the Pro Football
Hall of Fame, was on the show guy we we
both knew once berating you asking what your system was of,
you know, charting people, And I guess now the algorithm
we know is what a little bit of pro football focus?
(21:36):
And then Madden Rating. I mean, I like, what's the wait?
Is there anything else in there?
Speaker 1 (21:41):
Every time I think, come on, man, you know this
is an NFL team. Stuff like this. This is a
really big deal. This is a big business man. This
is an organization that's worth in the multiple billions of dollars.
They don't do things like nope, nope, we get stuff
like this now. Yeah, Madden ratings, Madden ratings. My eighteen
year old son is a voice. And and and the
point that the let it makes, which is which is
a good one, is that, Hey, it's not that suddenly
(22:04):
Brick Johnson is is making all these decisions. It's that
when information is brought to Woody Johnson about a player
or a situation, you know, these professionals that have been
working in this their whole life, they'd say what they want.
And then Brick has an equal voice like that because yeah, no,
I hate it, Like I just picture him like sitting it,
like being on his phone, going who now hate him? Leave?
(22:25):
Say you goodbye, goodbye? All right, try try somebody else. No,
I'm not gonna usually what his rad and rating is.
We're we're not making this trade.
Speaker 3 (22:30):
We're not making this to be fair, I think there's
gotta be something in the water in New York, New
Jersey then, because remember Shane's kid, right, hey, off season
hard knocks right, he was a guy trying to yell
at him about moves. They should make guys, they should
draft guys, they should get away from all of that.
By the way, you missed the obvious Jack Johnson joke.
It was a great opportunity to do three minutes of
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filibustering as Curious George, and you failed.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
Uh oh oh, Hey, if Curious George ran the Jets,
we'd be better. They bet he'd made great decisions. Boy,
are our team would change colors from a green to
a really bright looking yellow. It would be fantastic.
Speaker 3 (23:07):
What do you call that play? I don't know. It's
a scramble. He somehow gets out of trouble.
Speaker 1 (23:12):
Every time that Judge would lose, would come into a
press conference and go, George, I mean I really, honestly,
I'm telling you, I speak for a living. I've spoken
for a living for over twenty years of my life
and not would to continue to do so, you know,
for a while longer. I have no idea what to say.
At this point, I have no idea what to say
(23:34):
to Here's a story that a Madden rating effects a
trade and an eighteen year old kid has influence over
the owner as far as what moves are made for
an organization. I really that absolutely baffles me. I don't
know what to say. I mean, as if as it's like, hey,
wait a minute, we heard the other night you talked
about the train wreck the Giants were the train wreck,
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the Raiders. No, we're the biggest train wreck. And suddenly
Cowboys fans are going, hey, maybe Jerry Jones and so
bad because he doesn't do stuff like this. I didn't
think Jerry Jones knows what Madden is. He just thinks
it's still John Madden. Oh is he doing the game
on Monday? Is he announced that he's good? He's good
him at summer all? They're really good to get I
gotta call them up, hang out we got if they're
doing the game, I gotta call uh. Really, I don't
(24:16):
know what to say. Woody Johnson is just this is
an embarrassing story and the fact that get this gets out,
And not only that, but you had Joe Douglas, a
quote from him, who the Jets fired as a GM
a few weeks ago, said I answer to a teenager again.
This all according to the Athletic Report, I answer to
a teenager. They wanted to give the game ball after
Jeff Ulbrick's first win to Jeff Ulbrick, and Aaron Rodgers
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has the ball. It's a big emotional moment, and and
Brick decides to grab a football and give it to
Garrett Wilson and give this profanity lace speech before before
anybody else can do something and give it up. I mean,
it's insane, like the these are the stories, these are
the Jets, These are the Jets. And then today Garrett
Wilson says, I don't know if I want to be here.
I don't I don't know if I gonna be here
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long term. He could be traded the off season, Like
this is just this is just an absolute tire fire man.
But on the on my bingo card of reasons for
Jets dysfunction, like listening to an eighteen year old college
freshman and and and paying attention to Madden ratings for
who you're gonna who you're gonna go after and free
agency you're trade for Like that's like that's new man,
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Like that is like completely bottom of the bartrel. That
is like rock bottom. And I don't know, man, I
know the Jets are gonna try to use some TNT
and blow up that rock bottom. But today really might
be the rock bottom point of the franchise. I don't
know that it gets lower than the owner listens to
his kid and and and yeah, and we we pay
I pay attention to Madden ratings like this is a
lot of a sitcom.
Speaker 3 (25:43):
Yeah no, but that's that's where I'm headed here, the
dramaedy that is shrinking. Uh as we get ready for
the season finale, right, Siegel and Harrison Ford, Kristan Miller
and and McGinley and everybody else rolling after to where
I want to sit down with the Johnsons and just
kind of talking out with him. So you got that part,
the serious part. The other is, hey man, all we
do is complain that there's no succession plans for a
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lot of these families. He just decided he found the
guy at eighteen. Right, I'm sitting in with my Chicago
White Sox right of Jerry Reinsdorf. What happens, I don't know.
Is he gonna sell the team? Well, no question here,
you got an eighteen year old who's getting on the
job draining right now. I'm all via the Madden portal.
Speaker 1 (26:26):
I just I just missed my calling. Man, I really did,
like nowadays anything the son of a rich owner. Yeah,
I mean, if I was just the son of a
rich owner, I'd be running the Jets. I'd been running
the Jets for years. It would be awesome, right, you know,
broadcasters getting head coaching jobs and GM jobs Like, I
missed my time, I missed my window.
Speaker 3 (26:43):
Now if you were the owner, would you be in
the booth like Jerry Jones for all the interviews he
does whatever? Yeah, I've been surprised that he doesn't just
show up after halftime with a headset on. All right,
I'm gonna call the rest of this one with you.
Speaker 1 (26:56):
You think he needs a headset? You don't think he's
got all the head coach coaches have get an implant
in the side of their head so they can hear me.
Speaker 3 (27:04):
Oh, I meant As a radio or TV host, all.
Speaker 1 (27:08):
I gotta do is put my two fingers together, and
you hear every word to say, so just so you know,
and you can never turn it off, so you you
gotta be able to listen to what I have to say.
But like Jerry Jones, Like I'd rather have Jerry Jones
than than Woody Johnson because I know, like, right now,
we have no future. We have absolutely no future, absolutely none.
Speaker 3 (27:26):
But he's eighteen, he'll grow into Come on, we're talking
about all these would be coordinators turn head coaches.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
Screw that. This guy's got on the job draining dude.
Even Brian Cox knew his kids couldn't say, Hey, listen,
none of you, none of you can do it. Right,
I'm going off the board for my pick. Right, you
can't do it or you or you no, no, I'm
going off the board in succession.
Speaker 3 (27:48):
And meanwhile, you know, while he's giving up that family business,
he's making a boatload of money telling me to go
order delicious fries.
Speaker 1 (27:56):
Oh yeah, yeah, I bought Ump Bump bump. Uh. I
mean I I I can't believe that this is real.
I can't believe this is a real story. And and
mainly the fact that the Jets push back on this
is just sort of pushback, like it's like, oh, it's
ridiculous to think that that that brick Johnson owns that.
You know, you're you're you're talking about a kid having
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influence over team. But yeah, but a lot of other
stuff hasn't been really just hey, we're deflecting that or
we're denying this, like Joe Douglas's quotes about I listened
to an eighteen year old and the Madden rating about it,
and the Jets even even say the mad rating was
a part of it, right, it was a part of
the discussion, Like hell, is a Madden rating a part
of anything?
Speaker 3 (28:35):
Well, I mean, look, you want to take look, you
want to take in information from wherever, and long ago
you decided this was valid. Otherwise the NFL and their
partnership would have pushed back on the evaluators, wouldn't they
have because it would have been a bad representation in
the league. So on some level, you've enabled this kind
of activity. And I have to wonder if in the
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deep bowels of a lot of these other teams, if
that's not how they're making their decis visions, they've created
super teams. Then watch these guys run Amucket. It's like, Aha,
look at how great he is if.
Speaker 1 (29:06):
We run this play, I mean, this is I don't
know the I don't I'm really I don't know that
you can have a more embarrassing story involving how a
professional franchise is run than this, And I'm sure, like, oh,
there's gonna be you know, old TV, old newspaper reporters going,
let me tell you about how so and so is
run in nineteen sixty six. Like okay, that's like, you know,
(29:27):
before we even had color television. Okay, So I mean no,
I mean like now in twenty twenty four, Like, I
don't know, it can get more embarrassing than this.
Speaker 3 (29:34):
But that's the thing, though, how can we get more embarrassing?
This actually gets out? So that means that that people
are finally at their wits end, and it's like, all right,
the old man needs to, you know, have his his
come to Jesus moment here, and we're gonna out every
bit of it and you're either just more laughing stock
or maybe actually reevaluate how you're doing things. Likelihood is
that it remains the former. But the other is in
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all these stories, right, the plenty of things that are
in the news wire today, it's like, remember how much
everybody used to lament the last few years. Wow, we've
lost access. We've lost this ability and that connection that
we used to have. We don't get to hang around
the locker rooms, we don't build this that The other well,
give me all those stories.
Speaker 1 (30:14):
Let's go.
Speaker 3 (30:15):
Let's talk about the drinking binges after, you know, on
a road trip, and how you might have come up
with a couple of plays when you were a beat
writer for any team USA. I mean, there's all sorts
of stories in the Naked City that I'm waiting for
to be exposed.
Speaker 1 (30:30):
Let's go. I mean, I mean, I know there's gonna
be some, but I mean, dude, it's twenty twenty four
and Madden ratings and an eight reen year old kid
apparently has influence.
Speaker 3 (30:41):
Is because his name is Brick? Is that just really
getting you? Like, if it would have been the even
though he's younger, if it would have just been old
Jack Johnson would not have said that, would TJ.
Speaker 1 (30:51):
Who's to say, Okay, we're not gonna sorry. I mean,
I really, I don't know how you get more embarrassing
this in the history of sports. I don't understand. I
read this. What did you expect? This is how it's run,
This is how this is how a professional sports team
is run. Like, I can't imagine where if you're Joe Douglas.
(31:11):
Now I feel bad, you know, as much as Joe
Douglas Jets GM, like, you know, screwed up things. Couldn't
get the offensive line, although he got the offensive line
right of the way out the door, so thanks jo D.
Like can you imagine like if his life was, Hey, yeah,
you got a big ten am meeting with Woody and Brick.
Oh great, thanks, okay, I'll bring my stuff in, you know,
and then and then you know, he's he's got all
this stuff and all the tape y everything else, and
(31:33):
Brickers just sit again. Bricks is sitting there on his
phone or his iPad going no, no, no, no, don't
do that, Dad, Dad, don't do that. Dad no Dad,
Dad No no no no no no no no. Like
I really I can't. I can't understand, and I can't understand.
And this is what hit me today. What I'm like,
oh my god, Like Aaron Rodgers knows all of this, right,
(31:54):
he's been in for all he knows all of this,
and he still said yesterday he wants to come back,
like I'll take less money to be a Jet and
I'll mentor a quarterback to be a Jet. He's so
desperate because he knows it's the Jets are nothing in
the NFL. It's got to kill him to go. This
is the team I gotta pledge little loyalty to and
fealty that I have to just say I want to
be back. This is the team that runs things this
(32:15):
way with Madden ratings. This is the team. This is
my But I'm desperate. I'm so deaf. Like he knows
all this and still he wants to come back to
the Jets.
Speaker 3 (32:24):
He just loves football, Oh my god, or the idea
that not playing football takes away any of the the
juice that he's got in the larger world.
Speaker 1 (32:34):
Exit out about a Fresca exit swollen down The Giants
Smith Show with Mike Carmen Live. Oh it's my fault
because I could have picked the Giants. You could have
not your fault, but you know, your whole shrinking thing
gives me an idea. We'll get to come. But first
we have a leap change in Los Angeles between the
Broncos and the Chargers. Martin Weiss has that more. What's
(32:57):
trending right now in the wide world of sports MMed up.
Speaker 3 (32:59):
That's all right.
Speaker 4 (33:00):
You saw Josh Palmer make one of the better catches
of the year on a two point conversion. Right now,
the Los Angeles Chargers have a twenty seven to twenty
four lead over the Denver Broncos, who have been leading
this game and in its entirety until right now. It's
again eight points so far for the Chargers in the
fourth quarter. Dus Ervers got one touchdown. He's twenty twenty
(33:21):
four two hundred and thirty six.
Speaker 1 (33:23):
Yards through the air.
Speaker 4 (33:24):
The leading rusher for the Chargers as well is Herbert
twenty nine yards on the ground. Go Uvige of twenty
seven just seventy seven for the whole team two rushing touchdowns.
Bo Nicks is twenty three for thirty two for two
thirteen through the year and two touchdowns. Audric estimate the
leading rusher for the Broncos forty one yards and a
touchdown as well. Denver does have the ball approaching a
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third and eight right now with ten minutes left in
the fourth quarter. See if they can keep something alive
here in the NBA right now in overtime one minute
twenty seconds left in overtime. The Spurs have a thirty
one point thirty rather to won twenty six lead over
the Hawks. Victor Winbayama something slight forty two points, six rebounds,
(34:06):
four blocks, try young not to be denied twenty three points,
sixteen assists and three steals. Clippers have a one hundred
and four to ninety two lead over the Dallas Mavericks.
Spencer Dinwiddie leading Dallas in points with nineteen. The Pacers
have a eighty six to seventy five lead over the Suns.
Pascal Siakam the high man fifteen points, thirteen rebounds at
the half, the Knicks leading the Timberwolves by twenty two
(34:29):
seventy three to fifty one. Karl Anthony Towns in that
revenge game, twenty two points, twelve rebounds. Julius Randall, who
was traded for with twenty one points, the Trail Blazers
leading the Nuggets of forty to thirty seven, the Lakers
leading the Kings thirty nine to thirty three. Earlier today
we saw the Golden State Warriors get salacked one forty
four to ninety three. The final score. The Memphis Grizzly
(34:53):
is putting it on them. Brandon Pitzemski, the leading scorer
for Golden State, Al Dama the leading scorer for a
Memphis here John Murray not so much, twenty one points,
fourteen rebounds, a.
Speaker 1 (35:03):
NFL injury news. You know it's spent.
Speaker 4 (35:05):
Alva Kamara's growing injury might be season ending for the
New Orleans Saints. Lions running back David Montgomery optimistic that
his knee injury is not season ending. He's trying to
rehab and hopefully return some point this postseason. Patrick Mahomes
off the injury report, good to go for Saturday's game
against the Texans. DJ humphreyes out left tackle. Wide receiver
Hollywood Brown is trying to make his debut. Head coach
(35:27):
Eddy Reesay's decent chance. There not such for George Pickens,
who will miss Saturday's game against Baltimore for Pittsburgh.
Speaker 1 (35:34):
Same with Justin Fields.
Speaker 4 (35:35):
TJ. Watt looks like he should go. Isaac Garrendo will
miss for the forty nine Ers. He's got a hamstring
Sunday's game against Miami. I should say he's a long shot.
And Jason Smith your Jets interview Jim Naggy, the guy
who runs the Senior Bowl down in Mobile for their
general manager Vacancy. I was at the Senior Bowl last
year and everywhere you go through Mobile, it's plastered the
draft starts here.
Speaker 1 (35:56):
So Jason, he might know a little thing or two
about the draft. Good luck back to you.
Speaker 3 (36:00):
Good luck with that, Martin.
Speaker 1 (36:03):
Here's the thing. I get interviewed on Saturday, just so
you know, this is where the Jets are. I have
you with Saturday. I like you Saturday too, thanks Buddy.
Jason Smith Show with Mike Carmon Live the tire Rag
dot Com Studios. Uh, I mean well again, I have
a really big, fun idea that I think can really
work thanks to this crazy ass Jet story from today.
But coming up next it is college football playoff Eve,
(36:28):
the big one tomorrow night. Who's walking away with the
dub and head into the next round? Mike and I
will tell you next Jason and Mike Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (36:37):
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Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven
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Speaker 1 (36:47):
Oh, it's Alex Heischert's favorite Christmas song. Fox Sports Radio
The Jason Smith Show with Mike Carmon Live the Tirag
dot Com Studios. Chargers lead by three, twenty seven to
twenty four, but Broncos have the football near midfield about
six minutes left to go, so the Broncos are gonna
tie this thing up. We'll have more on this game
(37:08):
coming up a little bit.
Speaker 3 (37:08):
But real shame if that field goal at the end
of the half came back.
Speaker 1 (37:14):
Just appreciate the aesthetic beauty of a free kick field goal.
We don't get last time it happened nineteen seventy six,
Mike Harmon nineteen seventy six, Come on, let's go. But again,
more on that game coming up in a few minutes.
But tomorrow and this weekend college football playoff kicks off
tomorrow night, we'll be on talking you through this. Indiana
(37:35):
and No tre Dame, and I would love to be
able to pick Indiana in this game. Indiana is a
little bit better than you think. But how good are they?
It's easy to say, well, they haven't played Anyboddy, but
that's really the truth because the one team they played
in the top twenty five is Ohio State and they
lost by three touchdowns. But this is part of what
you're gonna get now on a year to year basis,
(37:57):
because the Big the Big two, the se see in
the Big and the Big ten have gotten so big
with so many teams you're gonna avoid really good teams
year to year, and sometimes you're gonna see teams like
Indiana rise up and have a great eleven in one year.
Why well, because well outside of Ohio State, you know,
they didn't play Penn State, they didn't play Oregon, they
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didn't play you know, they were able to avoid these teams.
So you're gonna see this more often than not where
you're gonna hey, here's an oh, by the way team
that we didn't expect to be that good, but here
they are in the playoff with eleven to one record
because they avoided all the really good teams. Like, look,
see I love Syracuse' year this year at nine and three,
but look, they avoided a lot of really good teams, right,
they avoted a lot of exactly. But when it comes
(38:38):
to the playoff, like how good is India? Curtis Rourke
is a pretty good quarterback, but Indiana is kind of
they're not plotting, but they're just consistent and they can
do a lot of things pretty well. And they've been
able to do what they needed to do uh so
far this season, and they have a great energy about them.
But Notre Dame is just a team that's on a
(38:59):
different level, and I would love to see Indiana pull
this big up setting. Oh my goodness, look at where
you're going on and you look sick. Netty's coach of
the Year in college football. How great it is. But
this is where the magic carpet ride comes to an end.
I don't see this being a close I know a
lot of people see this close order Notre Dame. They'll
pull it out there playing No. I think Notre Dame
(39:19):
is gonna run over Indiana. That's what they do is
they run the football. You're gonna see a game where
three guys could have over eighty yards rushing in this game,
and it's just gonna wind up being a big, physical
blowout of Indiana. And because Indiana is not dynamic enough,
they're not a team. He will go up and down
the field and score. And you know, my, Indiana is
a good team all around, but Notre Dame is just better.
(39:41):
They have the better athlete, the bigger wins. They got
four wins against top twenty five teams. I see Notre
Dame winning this like thirty eight to thirteen, and it's
not close.
Speaker 3 (39:49):
Well, and that's it, right, over six yards per carry,
you got twenty different guys who caught a pass. I
don't know that that has any statistical significance other than
that's kind of cool that you get that far down
to want one. Yeah, you get one too. But you
look at Notre Dame's efficiency throughout the year Indiana when
they did have to step up in class truly struggled.
You go from a points per possession and yards per
(40:11):
carry and all that stuff, and it dropped off a cliff. Now,
Signetti's either the best thing to happen for you in
college football. Look, he's a great quote, there's no question
about that. Look at my resume. But it's also the
from the larger team building of how he was able
to put this squad together on the fly and make
it hummed so quickly. It's either the best case or
(40:32):
worst case, depending on your perspective of the current status
of college football. All that being said, seven points is
the spread, fifty two and a half the total. We'll
see what the win factor is. And you know me,
it's tough to go and be all Notre Dame. Notre
Dame because of all the people that adopted them in
Chicago all the years. You know that whole thing of
where did you go to school kind of thing always
(40:54):
comes back, but we always ask it. It's always part
of it.
Speaker 1 (40:58):
That's who you are.
Speaker 3 (40:59):
But the Notre Dame squad just too strong. Riley Leonard
and company roll away, Yeah, I mean again.
Speaker 1 (41:05):
Indiana is a great story, but the clock strikes midnight
and Notre Dame has just been so good since that
Northern Illinois loss, They've been on another level. Coming up next,
we'll have more on the latest development on Thursday Night Football,
plus a TV show for a football team that might
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