December 27, 2024 • 53 mins
Today on The Jason Smith Show, Arnie Spanier and Martin Weiss are in for Jason and Mike! The guys open the show with a discussion on the state of bowl games in college football. NFL writer for Sports Illustrated Matt Verderame joins the show to talk some NFL football, hitting on the Thursday Night Football game between the Seahawks and Bears, the Christmas Day slate of games, and setting up the rest of the weekend's matchups. They also react to a snoozefest of a Thursday Night Football game between the Seahawks and Bears, which leads into a discussion on the rumors that Pete Carroll wants to return to NFL sidelines, and has his eye on the Bears job.
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of the show, real simple at Martin Weiss, it's thinking genius.
Speaker 4 (01:15):
One.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
Congratulations giving advice to Martin. So if you want to.
Speaker 4 (01:23):
So far Arnie, most of the advice says, don't listen.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
To Arnie, like this one says Rockabilly says, congrats Martin,
you put a ring on it.
Speaker 5 (01:34):
Bro.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
Do not listen to Arnie though about marital advice, he
missed every question on the newly Would game and his
soon to be wife look it up on YouTube. But
we won, Martin, That's all that mattered. So you know,
we won the whole game, and I won a trip
to Micronesia, but I never took it. I didn't even
get the I didn't even get the right serni or
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the turtle wax either.
Speaker 4 (01:59):
Gino Smith like performance at sevent sixty yards in a
winter yes, yes, exactly, no second half touchdown.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
I couldn't. I couldn't go on the on the trip,
and you know my wife was pregnant at the time.
We want a trip to Micronesia, and I like, we
couldn't go to Hawaii, had to be Micronesia. Here here's
more advice for you. Okay, let me give you this
when you're when you're soon to be. Wife says, where
do you want to go on your honeymoon? Do not
leave it up to her like I did with my wife. Okay,
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do not leave it up to her, because I left
it up to my wife, and I don't want to
disparage any place. I'm I'm sure every place is nice,
but we went to the worst place possible. Where did
you go? We went to the worst. I mean it
was nice, beautiful, but there wasn't much to do. We
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went to the Canadian Rockies Lake Louise bamf you know
that area? Sure? Sure?
Speaker 5 (02:58):
What?
Speaker 2 (02:59):
Let me tell you something. I said to my wife,
what are we doing today? She goes, well, we're going
to the lake. We went to the lake. She goes,
isn't it beautiful? I go, yeah, it's gorgeous. She goes, here,
drink some of the water. Okay, drink some of the water.
Now what now? What are we gonna do the other
nine days and twenty three hours? How many? How many
lakes do you think you're gonna take me to? And say,
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look at the water, drink the water because I'm full. Now, okay,
one lake is good for me. I don't have to
go to another lake, right, I don't have to go
up and there's no snow. It's lake in September. So
where you taking me? You're taking me to a bunch
of lakes to look at the water and drink the water.
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What the hell are you doing? Why did I agree
to go on the Canadian Rockies? Why do we gonna
Hawaii or something like that? Don't go to the Canadian
It's beautiful, but there's nothing to do.
Speaker 4 (03:53):
You don't have to worry about that. I do not
think that's gonna be on our list. And okay, good,
no chance, yes, no nothing to do.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
I mean you're looking around and then you know you're
bored after that. I'm like, oh, it's the first day.
It's the first hour. We looked at the water. I
drank the water. Now what the hell am I gonna
do for the next nine days? Ten days? Ten days?
We took honeymoon.
Speaker 6 (04:20):
I like how that was just testing the strength of
your marriage?
Speaker 4 (04:23):
Yes, exactly. I mean, look, I know there was other
stuff we could do, but that's not the point I'm
thinking about. When we're going out during the day, sure,
and we're checking out the town.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
The towns are small. I mean, the best time we
had I think we went to Calgary and then had
a good time there. But other than that, it was
I mean, come on, man, it's a snoozefest looking at
the lakes and drinking the water. Go someplace fun. Go
to Hawaii, get yourself some tropical drinks right there. Believe me,
it's the best advice I can give you. Okay, go
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someplace you're gonna have fun. You can relax, pool, beach,
something like that. Don't go to the Canadian Rockies. Now
I'm gonna get in trouble from what the Chamber of
Commerce or the Canadian.
Speaker 6 (05:03):
Rockies, the Royal Mounties might come get you.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
The Royal the Royal mounthis are gonna be mad at me.
So you know, look again, it's a beautiful place.
Speaker 4 (05:13):
I'm not saying it's anything wrong with that, but you know,
like how much water are you gonna drink?
Speaker 2 (05:18):
Before?
Speaker 5 (05:19):
You know?
Speaker 2 (05:19):
Why don't you go to the Bahamas or something like that.
Speaker 4 (05:22):
You know, Karaka, Well you can't drink the water, but
you can't drink the mita.
Speaker 6 (05:26):
That's my point. That's round goals, that's my play.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
And you know that you get you get great deals
to Hawaii to there's so many great deals. So any
advice for Martin would be greatly appreciated when he should
get married, where he should go on his honeymoon? Any advice, Uh,
just send it to ad Martin Weiss or add stinking
Genius one. Remember no to the If your wife ever said, hey,
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I got a great place. We're going to the Canadian Rockies.
Run okay, run right? Could you wouldn't that be funny
if that's the play, the one place she game up with,
Hey let's go to the Canadian Rocky I'd have to
play this four.
Speaker 4 (06:04):
I'd be like, listen, you should hear the other things
about it. Already says about his fair This is how
you want to start it off?
Speaker 2 (06:10):
Is this the play? Because you've better be drinking a
lot of water, that's for sure. All right that Martin Wise,
I've been sticking genius one. Matt Verderam joins us at
the bottom of the hour. All Right, a couple of
things I wanted to get to. I wanted to start
off with this because I know we want to get
into the college playoffs. In the bowl games? Are you
paying attention to these bowl games?
Speaker 4 (06:29):
I know we had a five overtime game, we got
a game going on tonight.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
But to be honest, I mean it's just on in
the background. It's like background noise. I'm less interested more
and more, especially with the twelve team playoff. I could
care less about all the other games. It's like saying
the NFL Playoffs are going on, but the Giants are
going to play the Jets that weekend, also, like anybody
would care. I just don't know. It just seems the
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other bowl games would become more relevant than ever now.
Speaker 7 (06:58):
Martin Well, I think it adds actually left to do
with the college football playoff, and more to do with
the transfer portal window being right now, being before people
are playing in their bowl games.
Speaker 5 (07:12):
Right.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
That's another part too.
Speaker 6 (07:13):
I think that's the biggest part.
Speaker 4 (07:14):
You're looking at teams like Duke Football, for example, had
one of their best years ever. And I know that
doesn't matter to a lot of the people listening, but
it matters to the people.
Speaker 6 (07:23):
Who have been fans of Duke.
Speaker 4 (07:25):
And you can't tell me that a Duke football fan
wouldn't have been Jazz for ten wins. They know they're
not gonna win a national championship, but they would have
been Jazz for ten wins if they knew that they
were kind of building something there, But guess what you're
not now you're starting quarterbacks already transferred.
Speaker 6 (07:40):
Now that they're get a transfer quarterback in.
Speaker 4 (07:42):
But again, that was Tulane, another team that nationally you're
not gonna care that much about, but individually, a ton
of people are gonna care, you know what I'm saying.
And like those people who are from New Orleans Tulane fans,
they're gonna care a ton. But now you don't have
your quarterback. So now what I think that's the biggest
is because you don't get to see them. The only
real team I feel like that you're gonna see play
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out the whole season that's not in the playoff.
Speaker 6 (08:08):
That's a team of note is Colorado.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
Right right, Well, that's what they're ensuring their players in
case any of them got hurt. Well, I don't think
that's a bad idea at all. No, not at all.
It's a very good idea, absolutely that I agree with
you there. I'm just wondering if we're just going ahead
and keeping something alive that really doesn't need to be alive.
Do we really need these bowl games and nobody's going
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to them? I promise you that attendance has got to
be low. Maybe they do well on TV, but sooner
or later it will go down just because we're putting
the NFL all over the place and these games are
so meaningless.
Speaker 4 (08:46):
Nobody really cares Martin. That's the reason. That's I think
that's the biggest problem. If they address the transl portal window,
I think you'll see more teams caring about these Bowl games,
or more people caring about these Bowl games, just because
you get to see the same people you saw right Like,
imagine you're going Imagine you go see a movie and
in the last thirty minutes of the movie and it
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changes to all new actors.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
You'd be like, well, I don't even understand what's going
on here. Right right by the way, you just a
little side note on this, because we know Nick Saban
retired from coaching because of the whole nil. It was
just too much for him. Did you see Jim Laernega,
the head coach at Miami Basketball, is stepped down right
in the middle of the year, stepping down saying he
just can't deal with it anymore. He just doesn't understand
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the whole nil. They made it to the Final Four
a couple of years ago, and he knew there was
a problem when eight of his players said they weren't
coming back have to go to the final four. He's
in his seventies. He just doesn't have it anymore to
deal with the nil. And this is going to force
a lot of the older coaches out Martin. And I
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don't know if you think that's a good thing or
a bad thing, but they just can't deal with the nil.
Speaker 3 (09:56):
I don't.
Speaker 4 (09:56):
I mean, I just think it is what it is
is changing of the game. Had so many changes in
the game in games prior. Like the idea, just hell,
just the idea that Arizona State and boys you stayed
are about to play for a potential to advance to
a national championship is something that if I had told
you that five years ago, you would have said, you
sound crazy, right, So.
Speaker 6 (10:16):
Like things change all the time.
Speaker 4 (10:18):
I just think, I think what happens either I mean,
you adapt or you die, right, I don't know, you know, not.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
To be that literal, but either you adapt or you retire.
Speaker 4 (10:28):
Like and I have no problem with the coach hanging
it up because they the rules of engagement have changed.
Speaker 6 (10:33):
But I also think that coaches are going to like
if you're a team that.
Speaker 4 (10:38):
Has perennially been the second, like the little brother in
the state or the little brother in an area. Right,
like Michigan State has had a lot of football success,
but not nearly the amount on the national states that
Michigan has. Right, Michigan State, couldn't you if you get your.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
Nil together, you could run the.
Speaker 4 (10:54):
State for a while, right, you could really compete on
some of these higher levels. And hey for some of
these guys, because not everybody can go afford to go Alabama.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
Rather, I should say, can't afford to pay everybody to Ohio.
Speaker 4 (11:06):
State, even at twenty million dollars, can't afford to pay
everybody at this at this state.
Speaker 6 (11:11):
In time, you can get your money up, you can
get your team up, you know.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
I want to talk about the games the next round
of the tournament before I do that, though, I was shocked,
and I know you and I filled in. When did
we fill in? I don't even remember now, Martin last week? Right,
we filled in last week? I don't know what d
thanks for helping me out. I'm sorry. I don't know either.
It's been a long week for me. I know I
don't do it a lot. We filled in and there
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was a pushback from the first round of the College
playoff and people like, you see, you know, sm you
didn't belong, Indiana didn't belong. All four games were a blowout.
This is horrible. I'm like, whoa, whoa, whoa. Everybody, you know,
relax for a second. There, it's the first year, right,
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it's our first year. We're all straightened it out. We'll
get it to work. Arizona State doesn't have a buy
and boys, he doesn't have a buye and and we'll
fix it up and we'll get the right things after
a year or two. But people, I didn't expect the
backlash about all this, how the Tennessee fans that we're
getting ripped. It was. It was crazy out there, you know,
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and especially after we said all this time.
Speaker 4 (12:20):
Arguing is about the five teams that should have been
in it should fifth time have been in.
Speaker 6 (12:25):
Like I have no sympathy for arguing.
Speaker 8 (12:28):
About the thirteenth best team in the nation not being
able to play for the national championship. Like what the
thirteenth best team in the NFL just barely gets an
opportunity to play, right, Depending on how it all say
shakes out then basketball, you know, the top sixteen, but
the top third there's one hundred and some college football.
Speaker 6 (12:46):
Teams like I spare me, just spare me.
Speaker 4 (12:50):
And honestly, I think ultimately the biggest problem is those
games were boring. But the other problem is we're gonna
have boring games in the first round of the playoffs
because there's a reason why one team got the higher seed.
There's the reason why one team got the lower seed.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
They're better, right, Well, well you don't have to, but
you know it doesn't have to be boring. It was.
You know, some of these games are going to be close.
It's not gonna be like this all the time. Plus
we're gonna redo it where Arizona State and Boise State
and schools like that don't get the first round by
and that they have to play in the first round.
Speaker 6 (13:21):
So I also think, aren't he just real quick?
Speaker 4 (13:24):
I think that now more than ever, you're gonna have
like random Arizona States or Boise State or North Carolina
or I know, Indiana's like all these teams failed on
the biggest stage so far this year. But there's with
the transferportal, the way it is, somebody, the right guy
is gonna get the right job, and he's going to
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basically swoop in similar to like Deon Sanders did, and
it will be a guy who was a first year
coach our second year coach.
Speaker 6 (13:53):
Is that like it could That's what I'm saying. It
very well could be.
Speaker 4 (13:57):
But that's going to happen to as but as as
the playing field, because it's not about any any of
the stuff it used to be about anymore. It's all
about the money. So once you get sick of talking
about the prestige and what, oh, you know, this is
what Alabama degree can do for you. Now once State,
once somebody ponies up like t Boone Pickens is like
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a billionaire. Once he just was like, you know what,
I'm gonna put sixty five million dollars down for Oklahoma
State football.
Speaker 6 (14:25):
Now what right? And then and then see what happened.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
Like they're gonna win because they can afford. It's like baseball.
Speaker 4 (14:31):
They're gonna win because they have one through nine, are
all twenty two players on all Phil Knight.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
Are gonna be pro. Phil Knight gives a boat load
to Oregon. But what you don't know is he also
gives money to Oregon State two and other schools. I
think he gives the Stanford. He does mix it up
a little bit. It's not just all the Oregon.
Speaker 4 (14:47):
Yeah, but he's that's when he's mostly connected to, right,
I mean, like that was the thing that I used
to personally as a fan of the University of Michigan
the first few years when the NIL wasn't there. I'm like,
how is it that the universe city who the alumni are,
the people that founded.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
Google, and we can't afford a quarterback and now we
can't have ten million dollars? What does that do for
the other schools though that can't do that? Though that
doesn't have Oracle in their background or Tom Brady helping
you out. What about all the other schools that can't
afford that?
Speaker 4 (15:19):
Uh, they will probably operate similar Like like I said,
it's like baseball, So there'll be the Pittsburgh Pirates and
like that.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
That's just the way it's gonna be until they find
some level of well.
Speaker 4 (15:31):
I think really the they have to condense a lot
of this stuff. If they want true parody and college football,
they have to condense it to one transfer portal window
and put in an actual salary cap right, So the
money is similar along the play, but it's just way
too much work to try to do. So I think
eventually it's gonna become way more of the haves and
the have nots.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
I didn't think it would get this side of control
where you're paying kids just to visit your campus too.
You know, a half a mill a mill two mil
just to come down and visit. You got to be crazy.
You better be giving me a commitment. And if I'm
gonna give you that type of money, I can't do that.
Speaker 6 (16:02):
See. That's the thing though, Arnie. When the money that.
Speaker 4 (16:05):
You get paid is not directly for the service that
you're rendering, it all gets messed up. Like we're not
getting paid to like we're getting paid right now because
we're talking on the radio.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
Like if you go to.
Speaker 4 (16:16):
Colorado or wherever, wherever you go in college football, ostensibly
you are not getting paid for quote unquote playing football.
So it's like the it's just it messes all the
there's no real metric now, there's no will well, this
guy threw for twenty seven touchdowns, you threw for twenty three.
Speaker 6 (16:32):
Like in the NFL when they do new contracts.
Speaker 4 (16:34):
They look at players like brock Party, for example, when
he sits down for his contract negotiations, he's gonna look at, well,
look at what Trevor Lawrence in his first few years.
I did more than that. I did more than this
guy did more than that guy. This is why I
deserve this much money. Now that doesn't exist in college football.
Eventually it will if there's a salary cap, but until
then it's just gonna be the rich get rich.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
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Speaker 6 (17:01):
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Speaker 2 (18:32):
I was listening to this on my a track on
the way in good evening, everybody, Martin Weiss, Arnie Span,
you're right here on Fox Sports Radio in for the
Guys Night Jason Smith and his best friend Mike Harmon.
I hope everybody had a great Christmas out there. I
want to get right to our guest joining us. Now
you can check him out. He's a writer and that's
I also has the Matt Verderram Show. You can go
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ahead and check out on Patreon. It's our buddy, Matt Verdram. Matt,
did you have a great Christmas?
Speaker 6 (18:57):
My friend?
Speaker 5 (18:58):
I don't wonder for Christmas?
Speaker 2 (18:59):
How was your It was great? And thanks for joining us.
We certainly appreciate it. What about to make it your
a chief? Seriously, fifteen to one? I keep saying that
to the most overrated ten and one team, eleven and
one team, fifteen to one team. I just don't know.
I'm waiting for them to trip up, waiting for Buffalo
to beat them in the playoffs or Baltimore. I can't
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believe they've had this good of a run and Patrick
Mahomes not being considered for the MVP.
Speaker 5 (19:27):
I mean, how many years have you been waiting for
them to trip up, for to lose to the Bills
in the playoffs? Fight? Half a decade at this.
Speaker 2 (19:34):
Point, pretty much?
Speaker 5 (19:36):
Yeah? Yeah, Look, I listen all serious, Ntorny, like, I
totally understand there is absolutely part of this team. You
look at them this year and you say Okay, look defensively,
they're really good. Offensively, it has been inconsistent at best.
That being said, the last two games, all of a sudden,
they look by they should look offensively, and I don't
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think it's a coincidence. In those last two games Hollywood
Brown came back because now, all of a sudden, you
put Hopkins in the slot, that's where he belongs. Worthy
Now it's a lot harder to just roll coverage that way.
Worthy in the last two games has had two of
his three biggest games of the year, and the last
last game he had his career high at a catch
of seventy nine yards. Kelsey. Now it's not as easy
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to just squat down and drop the safety out of
the box. So I think there's a lot of things
to play.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
With.
Speaker 5 (20:26):
Tooney also sliding out and playing left tackle. That has
solved the massive problem for this team because they could
not block all year long left tackle as a black hole.
I would argue it was the worst left tackle situation
for any contending team in the league. And so right now,
I mean they're the favorite. They are going to be
home for the playoffs. They're probably getting Houston or Pittsburgh
in the Divisional round. If we want to look a
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little bit ahead, and if they win that game, they
got to win one big game. They got to be
Baltimore Buffalo at home. And frankly, I mean, if you're
sitting there saying, would you bet on him? I mean yeah,
probably based on their track record, probably would.
Speaker 4 (20:59):
So now that Chiefs have like twenty six days or
so just basically without playing meaningful football to locking up
the one seed, how do you expect the Chiefs to
approach this next I mean, damn near month where you
know it's while still trying to stay sharp.
Speaker 5 (21:17):
I think you're going to see them, you know, Reskys
against Denver. I don't think you're going to see many
meaningful players in that game in Week eight. Team they
just they're not going to take a chance. I get
hurt Andy Reid in the past, and they've had those
those situations, that's what he's kind of leaned into. And
they've had a couple of years like this in the
Mahomes era where they've been the one seed and they
haven't had to play the last week of the year either.
(21:40):
I don't expect to see Mahomes at all, and we
not even for a quarter. So I think that's going
to be part of this. But I do think, you know,
they'll go pretty light here this week and next week,
and then I think you might see a situation where
maybe that that bye week during the playoffs, where they
in practice, maybe they have you know, some simulated game situation.
Obviously no hitting, nothing, no tiging through the ground, stuff
(22:02):
like that, but just I think to keep sharp, they're
gonna they're going to do a lot of game simulation
type things, uh, to keep them session on offense and rhythm.
So I think right now, really it's just about getting healthy,
getting getting right, resting the older bodies on the team.
You know, they're not a bunch of young pups in
that team anymore in some spots. So I think that's
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going to be the main priority.
Speaker 2 (22:24):
Matt, What what happens first? That will consider this Chiefs
run better than the Patriots run, will consider Mahomes better
than Brady, will consider Andy Reid better than Belichick? Which
one happens first?
Speaker 5 (22:37):
I think I think read I think read wow, because
because because I'm not saying it's right, but I think
the reasoning would be because there's already that whole like, well,
who was it was it Brady or a Bellochick. And
of course Brady winning in Tampa kind of you know,
adshield of that arrangement, Whereas I think with Andy Reid,
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you could say Willie never won in Philly, but he
had a rate run name Shodolph yet where Belichick never
had a great run without Brady. So I think that's
probably the argument. I will say this, you could just
say the Chiefs being better than New England. From this standpoint,
if the Chiefs win the super Bowl in a month
and a half time, they're the greatest team in full time.
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If they went three Super Bowls in a row, that's
end of the argument. They'll have won three in a row.
They'll have won four out of six. They have been
to five Super Bowls in six years and seventh straight
AFC title game, won nine straight divisions. I mean, I
don't know if they win the super Bowl this year,
I don't think there's any argument that they're not the
greatest team, at least of the Super Bowl era.
Speaker 2 (23:38):
Well I agree with that as well.
Speaker 4 (23:41):
But if you had to pick a team from the
AFC that would be likely to spoil this Kansas City party,
which one would it be? After you know, we have
pretty much almost all the evidence we're going to see
out of the big playoff teams.
Speaker 5 (23:52):
Yeah, you know, I think it would be Buffalo for
no other reason because of the style that they play.
I just I think they're the hardest matchup for the
Chiefs in the playoffs. I don't think Pittsburgh, Houston Chargers,
in the Broncos. I don't think they've enough offense. I
think all those teams are good enough defensively that maybe
they give them a game. I just I don't think
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they can score enough. So really it's Buffalo of Baltimore
and the Ravens. So here's the funny thing at the ACP.
At least from my perspective, I actually think the Bills
are a harder matchup for the Chiefs than the Ravens are,
because the Chiefs is just it's handled walmar A and
Ptokery meeting them one time, they just always played well
against them. Conversely, I think if you're Buffalo, you've got
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to play the Chiefs in the races. I actually think
the Bills probably haven't to see the Ravens in the
divisional round is a problem because I don't think I
don't think Buffalo is going to be Baltimore even when
they plan. I think I think Baltimore is going to
line up and run the ball down Buffalo's throat literally
for about two hundred and thirty yards because the Bill,
the Bills do not come out of nickel. They refuse
to come out of that look because they want tarn
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Johnson to be in there as a nickel backer, and
it's it's death against Baltimore. Baltimore will just line up
in two tight ends and run power at them fifty times.
So I think Buffalo is a harder matchup for the
Chiefs that I don't know that they're going to shamp.
Speaker 2 (25:14):
Why don't we going to start jumping on la Mark, Well,
we already have, but Lamar Jackson's got to get into
the super Bowl sooner or later. We're going to hold
a responsible for those no playoff wins, hardly any playoff
wins here.
Speaker 5 (25:25):
Yeah, listen, it's fair or not, Arnie, you know it.
I know it. Like it's when you're a quarterback and
you're a great quarterback, lot more certainly a great quarterback,
you are judged historically not by anything more than how
many did you win? It did you win. I mean,
Dan Marino, you could make a great argument the greatest
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year passer in NFL history. And yet when we talk
about the greatest quarterbacks of all time, he does not
come up immediately because he didn't win. And so I think,
if if you're Lamar Jackson, but one super Bowl, he
doesn't need to need multiple he wins won super Bowl,
he's I mean, you're talking about him as like one
of the all time greats because you'll win multi MVPs,
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He'll won a championship. He's obviously an icronic player of
this generation. But if he doesn't win one, and if
they go to the playoffs this year and they lose,
let's say, to get to the second round, they're losing Buffalow,
You're gonna walk away from the year going that's great
that Lamar had the year that he had. Who cares,
He's done it, It doesn't matter like that's and by
the way, the same thing is true with Josh Allen.
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Josh Allen's MVP this year. But they lose to Baltimore,
they lose the Kansas City in the playoffs, nobody's gonna care.
Nobody's going back in five years and go, well, you
know it's a successful year for Josh. I know it's
not He's gonna win Super Bowl. And that that right
now for those two guys, That is all this is about.
Speaker 4 (26:45):
Now, do you think there's any added pressure with the
idea that they the Bears?
Speaker 2 (26:51):
I'm not the Bears? Whoops, my bad.
Speaker 4 (26:53):
Josh Allen and the and Lamar Jackson are both kind
of neck and neck right now, depending on between one
and two for MVP odds. They're both kind of going
back and forth in the conversation. I know, since to
your point Lamar Jackson being one of the all, I
think he may be the only guy with multiple MVPs
who's never won a Super Bowl, much less been to
one like that, adding an extra regular season accolade to
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these teams that have been so successful in regular season
that add any postseason pressure to them.
Speaker 5 (27:24):
I mean, little old little look at Jacks Olyne's MVP, right,
and you have three MVPs and you haven't gone to
a Super Bowl. And let's be honest about this. The
big reason the Ravens has knocked onto super Bowls he's
been terrible the playoffs. Yes, I mean it's not like
he's been unbelievable and they've given up forty five points
a game. Like he has played his worst football in January,
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and so he will be just for that. Alan is
a little bit different in a sense. He has played
very good football for the most part in January, but
if you look at his career in the playoffs, he
is mostly beaten. Quarterbacks core very forgettable. Skyler Thompson, Mac Jones,
Mason Rudolph, Like, who cares? Nobody cares that you won
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those games? Man, Like you're zero and four against Mahomes
in Borough. That's and two of those things when you're building,
they run your racket. Me lost those games, So I
do think those I would argue that in either conference,
there is no two plays. Nobody's under more pressure those
two guys like Mahomes, there's no you'd love to repeat
and all that, Like the guys won three super Bowls.
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He's a first dollar fame there's no there's no defining
pressure on him where there is with those two.
Speaker 2 (28:35):
Yeah, I love it, Matt. It was good to connect again,
my friend. You can check out mad Verte Ram and
Si also on his on his podcast, my Friend, enjoy It,
Enjoy your Kansas City Chiefs. Are you going to any
games or what?
Speaker 5 (28:48):
Yeah, I'll be at the Division round and uh, maybe
even for the championship game, depending on my travel schedule
for the uh, the seemable.
Speaker 2 (28:56):
I love it. I love it, Matt, Thanks lot, buddy,
will speak to you later on.
Speaker 5 (29:00):
Hey, take care.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
There you go, Matt Verderm. Everybody go ahead and check
them out out.
Speaker 4 (29:03):
Yeah, that's a that's a fun place to go see
a game, Martin, no doubt about that.
Speaker 2 (29:07):
I'm sure we'll come back. We'll talk a little bit
about what Matt had to say first. So let's check
in with our buddy, Martin Weiss. Let's see what's trending,
because we still got a bowl game going on in
some NBA too.
Speaker 4 (29:17):
I believe we do still have a bowl game going on.
Speaker 2 (29:20):
I will do a second to check on the NBA.
Give me one second to get ready.
Speaker 4 (29:23):
Arkansas stay with a thirty one to twenty four lead
over Bowling Green, which I've parney I partied at several
times in undergrad. Bowling Green drove down from the University
of Michigan five point thirty seven left in the third quarter.
There again thirty one to twenty four to score in
the NBA, So we had two games going on right now.
The Sacramento Kings extending their lead over the Detroit Pistons
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seventy nine to sixty four, six twenty one left in
the third quarter, with just under three minutes left in
the third quarter. Utah has a seventy nine to sixty
eight lead.
Speaker 2 (29:56):
Over the Portland Trail Blazers.
Speaker 4 (29:59):
In the NFL today, we had a barn burner of
a game, six to three. The final score Seahawks improved
to nine and seven, Bears fall to four and twelve.
Caleb Williams throws an interception. It's his first interception and
three hundred and ninety four pass attempts.
Speaker 2 (30:16):
Wow.
Speaker 4 (30:16):
Yeah, setting the rookie record. So congratulations to Caleb and
yet another loss for them. He's lost more games this
year than he's lost like his entire college.
Speaker 2 (30:25):
Career, it feels like.
Speaker 4 (30:27):
But Geno Smith has seventeen for twenty three hundred and
sixty yards through the air, sack sharp and a fifty
seven yards on the ground DJ more fifty four yards
on the ground.
Speaker 2 (30:36):
Tough game for scoring touchdowns. There were none scored at
all in.
Speaker 4 (30:40):
The NBA Earlier today, the thunderbeat the Pacers one twenty
to one fourteen. Sga had forty five points, seven rebounds,
eight assists. The heat I have a won eight excuse me,
barn Burner against the Magic eighty nine to eighty eight.
Haimi Hokis fifteen and five steals. Wizards off of Jordan
Poole game winning shot beat the Hornets one thirteen to ten.
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He had twenty five and six. The Hawks beat the
Bulls one forty one to one thirty three. Dylan Johnson
with thirty points fifteen rebounds Grizzlies won fifty five over
the Raptors one twenty six. Jaron Jackson with a double
double points and rebounds, Nets beat the Bucks one eleven
to one oh five, and the Rockets beat the Pelicans
one twenty eight to one eleven. In college football, I said,
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we just had that bowl game.
Speaker 6 (31:29):
I just had it ready.
Speaker 2 (31:29):
Where to go anywhay to go?
Speaker 4 (31:31):
Thirty one to twenty four, Arkansas State thirty one to
twenty four Arkansas State.
Speaker 2 (31:36):
There were two other games today.
Speaker 4 (31:38):
Toledo beat Pittsburgh forty eight to forty six in six overtimes.
Kansas State beat Rutgers forty four to forty one, and Arnie.
I got a problem with the way they measure in
this college football over time. What I really truly do
Let's go back to the show now, I up that
is we've updated everything, all right?
Speaker 2 (31:58):
Yeah, because when I have this thing and they can just.
Speaker 4 (32:01):
Call timeouts in and out of like we watched it
in the Georgia was a Georgia Texas game.
Speaker 6 (32:08):
They're calling the time.
Speaker 4 (32:09):
Kirby's calling the time about every single overtime, and the
overtime is.
Speaker 6 (32:12):
One play long, right, it used to be.
Speaker 2 (32:15):
Like four or five plays long.
Speaker 4 (32:17):
I just don't like the fact now that we're sitting
here talking about record setting overtime periods when it's not
even real overtime.
Speaker 2 (32:27):
It's not real overtime. And do you get an extra
time out per overtime?
Speaker 4 (32:31):
I don't you get one time out per Oh wow?
So you keep adding another one every time you get
that exactly, So remember, Kirby Schwarker, just take it. They
just burn timeouts. Take what they call that Kodak time
out to see what the defense is going to be
set up in and then you run your play. I
don't know how many people were tuned into the Game
of Love Sports Bowl, but six overtimes too much.
Speaker 2 (32:52):
We don't need that. What do you want him to
do though? You want them to play a full game
and just have the first team to score wins it
like they did in the NFL playoffs. Is that the
way you want it to be done or what?
Speaker 6 (33:02):
Honestly, I liked the old way.
Speaker 2 (33:04):
I liked that. I really did like the old way.
Speaker 4 (33:06):
I thought while it did not you know, in almost
every other sport, like the.
Speaker 2 (33:11):
Only way it could go longer was you weren't going
for two points, you could just keep kicking the extra point.
Speaker 4 (33:15):
Right, But it was so it was it was closer
to what football actually is.
Speaker 2 (33:20):
I like football for whatever reason.
Speaker 4 (33:21):
Like in hockey, when they do they stop doing, they
stopped playing and they go to a shootout, like they decide,
we're going to decide the game differently than the way
we were playing this the entire time, Like they don't
do that. In basketball, the way to decide the game
is just to play more. Right in the NFL, the
way they decide the game is just to play more.
I think that overtime does have a special feel to it.
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So I don't love just playing more basketball or hockey
or whatever. But I think that just this back and forth,
ping pong of plays is never what football was about.
Speaker 6 (33:54):
And that's what I.
Speaker 4 (33:54):
Don't like, because it's it's all three. You eliminate special
teams from the whole.
Speaker 2 (34:00):
Well Coma used to be like that anyway. They just
didn't make you go for two points early. It was
always put it at the twenty five yard line though.
But I like that because you're still you got to
get a first down.
Speaker 4 (34:10):
It's a truncated version of what actual football is. You
get a couple first downs, you score a touchdown, you
stall out, you kick a field goal.
Speaker 2 (34:17):
That's what football is supposed to be. Yep, I agree
on that part. He's Martin Wie, some Arnie Spanier show,
just flying by. We're coming up on half time. We'll
come back. I do want to finish out a few
things I wanted to get into the NBA. Maybe we'll
do that next. We got some tweets to get to also,
as we get the halftime, Martin and Arnie in for
Jason and Mike right here on Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 3 (34:41):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven
pm Pacific.
Speaker 2 (34:48):
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hour though, for Smith and harmon they do a four
hour bonanza, so don't worry, it's only the Power Hour.
By the way, Martin, now that we watch the game
on Netflix, I'm just kind of curious. Are you a
Squid Game guy or no? Yes, I will be watching
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the new season.
Speaker 5 (35:33):
I do.
Speaker 2 (35:34):
It's pretty wild. I love it. I love it. I
don't know if I'm gonna like the new season. I
saw the trailer, and did you see the trailer? I
haven't yet, No, tell me what's going on. The only
thing is it's like there are a couple of the
people are back in the game, so you can have
a few repeat people, but they're also going to try
to like bring down the establishment, I guess is what
(35:57):
it's about. Okay, So enjoyed the whole competition the first time,
though I thought the games got worse as they went along.
I want to see, you know, better type games is
what I wanted to see.
Speaker 6 (36:09):
You know, you want to see a little more competition.
Speaker 2 (36:12):
Yes, exactly. I thought it was great though. I thought
it was an unbelievable series. I had a it was
just a lot of fun to watch.
Speaker 5 (36:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (36:20):
Well, I finally get a second to sit down, I'm
going to lock in and catch up. It just started though,
it just started today. I think, all right, cool, lucky.
I don't know if they released one at a time,
or they release all of them and you just watch
it at your convenience. I don't know if it's like
one a week or until they get all the episodes released,
or if they're all released right now. So if you know,
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by the way, let us know, ad Martin Weiss, I'm
instinking genius one And congratulations to Martin. You got engaged.
By the way, where did you Where did you get engaged? Where? Exactly?
Speaker 4 (36:54):
I got an airbnb, so I rented at airbnb and
I set up the uh, you know, I decorated the
house so it was nice.
Speaker 2 (37:03):
Yeah, I got a Airbnb and I second, I decorated it.
Wait a minute, Wait a minute, Wait a minute. I
really wish you'd have asked me about this before you
did that. Why, I mean, you go to the games.
There was no like going to a crypto arena or
whatever and putting up on the on the jumbo trot, Honey,
where you marry me? Nothing like that. I don't know
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that you're a sports guy. What's wrong with you?
Speaker 5 (37:28):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (37:28):
I didn't really want to do that, in part because
what if I can't get there to look at the
screen in time, then I just missed a window. Now,
everybody plus two, what if it's a what if the
game stinks?
Speaker 5 (37:42):
Right?
Speaker 4 (37:42):
They gotta think about this, right. Let's say, for example,
like you said Crypto dot com. All right, they said
the Lakers are down by thirty in the middle of
the third quarter, a JJ calls a time out and
the fans are booing as they start to.
Speaker 2 (37:56):
Play the you know, the music and all this and.
Speaker 4 (37:59):
Now I'm I'm on the jumbo tron, me and my
future wife on the jumbo tron. Meanwhile, Lakers fans are
pissed off because Lebron's sitting again for the third game
in a row, and Anthony Davis just got hurt again.
He's limping off the court, and JJ's calling time out
getting a technical found.
Speaker 2 (38:18):
They're booing as I go to propose to get.
Speaker 4 (38:20):
Down on one knee, and now all the internet sees
is everybody booing me can't do it. I didn't think
about that. I didn't that could have possibly happened. That's
not the out the rubber possibility. That's good thinking.
Speaker 2 (38:32):
There ahead no none of the sports things, none of
the let me hide the ring or anything like that.
Just let me get down on one knee and propose.
Pretty simple stuff.
Speaker 6 (38:43):
Uh yeah, man, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4 (38:44):
Look, I'm a straightforward execution type of guy. Before running
the ball, you know what I'm saying. I think dunks
are better than three pointers more often than not. And
you know, when it's his easy, just just just do it.
Speaker 2 (38:57):
Do it. Was there a chance that she was gonna
say no, no, Never a doubt, never a doubt. I
do feel bad for the for the ones that say no,
get out. And some of them are true, I know
a lot of them are rigged and stuff. But there's
women that say no, no, thank you, I don't want
to get married to you.
Speaker 4 (39:15):
I have a few Look if you get now this
is my personal opinion one for one so far proposals
in life. You know, yeah, undefeated, probably gonna stop after
this when I imagine yes, But if you get rejected
on your proposal, it's probably something that you did wrong,
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like you had you were the one that misread the scenario.
Speaker 2 (39:40):
I think really so that you just you didn't read
how good you're, how good or how bad the relationship was,
then is what it really was, right exactly?
Speaker 6 (39:50):
You should have had a better idea.
Speaker 2 (39:52):
All right, Well, if you want to give Martin any
advice where you should go to honeymoon? I already told them,
don't go to the Canadian rockies. You can only look
at water and drink clear water for so long, and
then what do you do for the other nine days
in twenty three hours? Are you thinking of any place
like Hawaii or something? Or you're open to just about anything.
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I'd say, she probably wants to go to Europe.
Speaker 4 (40:15):
She's been trying to get me to go to Europe
for over like six or seven months.
Speaker 2 (40:20):
Be good, that'd be good.
Speaker 6 (40:22):
I don't mind. I'm not going during football season. So
it's like, it's like, but November is the best time
to go.
Speaker 4 (40:27):
It's like, oh no, what am I supposed to afford
to go to Europe if I'm not working during football season?
Speaker 5 (40:33):
Exactly?
Speaker 6 (40:33):
This is the busy season, this is tax season.
Speaker 2 (40:35):
You'll have to go in like what June or July
or August something like that.
Speaker 4 (40:40):
So I think that'll probably be excuse me, where we
end up with that.
Speaker 2 (40:45):
How long is the engagement going to be?
Speaker 4 (40:48):
When do you want to go ahead and do it?
Do you want to buy next by this summer coming
up or what?
Speaker 2 (40:54):
I mean?
Speaker 4 (40:55):
It'd be cool, but I don't think we'll be able
to plan and save and all of that by.
Speaker 2 (41:00):
This is what I told her. I guess she has
a window. She go down the city hall. Just do
it real quick and save the money. But you're not
you're not listening to me. Now.
Speaker 4 (41:08):
I did propose that, Oh I did propose that. But
ultimately still I do want to have at least a
wedding party, you know, I want to.
Speaker 5 (41:17):
I want to.
Speaker 2 (41:18):
I want to be able to, you know, have fun
after it didn't tell you this?
Speaker 5 (41:21):
What?
Speaker 2 (41:21):
Look, I love my wife. But to this day, when
I saw what my mother in law spent on a wedding,
but she's super rich, I get sick to my stomach saying,
why did you just give us the money? Why? I
want to just why to just give us the money
and we could have done something with that. That's what
a waste of money, What a waste of money that was.
So Yeah, I would save as much as you can
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so you can afford your first house, Martin. That's that's
my advice to you.
Speaker 6 (41:49):
That is the plan we're trying to do.
Speaker 4 (41:50):
We're not gonna go We're not gonna go super crazy
on it, but we I think we are going to
have one.
Speaker 2 (41:55):
I don't know if the courthouse is going to get
it done first, all right, any advice for Martin please
add Martin White. I'm a stinking genius. One we misster
Barton Berner there while we hopped on the air six
to three, Seattle wins it. It doesn't really make a
difference because these games are going to be here to stay.
But what a stinker that one was. That was an
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absolutely horrible game, Martin.
Speaker 4 (42:17):
Yeah, you know, you had a little bit of weather
that was impacting it. But also too, I just think
what we might have seen is thinking Gino Smith's best
days are going to be behind him in this league
at this point. And the Bears, I think the Bears, honestly,
they just have a lack of institutional like ability for
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success right now. They think about they fired the offensive coordinator,
then they fired the offensive I mean the head coach.
Now the head coach. It was the passing game coordinator
to start the year. They just don't have enough bodies
making decisions in the locker room in Hollas Hall right now,
in my opinion, to put out a winning organization to
be a winning team right speaking about House.
Speaker 2 (42:59):
Hall, them, you saw the rumors, even though there's insiders
fighting among each other to what's true and what's not true.
Pete Carroll's name is coming out. And now you see
Pete Carroll's name tied into the Jets, tied into the Bears.
The Bears were the first team that came out. Is
it Pete Carroll too old to be ahead? What is
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he seventy two? I think he is seventy two. Seventy three, Yay,
he's seventy three years old. Okay, why would you want
to come back. Why would you want him? If you're
the Bears, why would you want him? If you're the Jets,
why would you want him? If you're anybody not that
Bill's not had a great career. But again, if you're
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not going to take Belichick for whatever reason, if it's
his age, or his time has passed them by or whatever,
or he's just too snarky, you know, then the same
thing applies for Pete Carroll. But are you surprised? Do
you believe these stories that all these teams are coming
after Pete Carroll?
Speaker 4 (44:02):
I believe that Pete Carroll is interested in coaching for
these teams. I don't know how many teams are interested
in Pete Carroll coaching them, right, I think that.
Speaker 6 (44:10):
And that's a big difference.
Speaker 4 (44:13):
But hell yeah, if I was Pete Carroll, one of
the coaching job, because here's the deal, all right, I'm
seventy three, I coached two more years, another cool fifteen
to twenty million dollars I can put into the bank. Well,
my guaranteed coaching. I can't argue with money. But that's
beside the point. If he hasn't made enough money up
till now, with all those years in Seattle. Then he's
got a bad financial advisor. Then, Martin, I don't know
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what to tell you about that.
Speaker 2 (44:36):
Sure, putting another ten or twenty million dollars, then you
might as well coach until your one hundred and fifty,
then I guess.
Speaker 4 (44:43):
I mean, I think some of these guys would if
they had the opportunity to win the health to you know,
and and the health to But you know the thing
about Pete's like I think that. I mean, you saw
how much energy he had on a day to day basis.
But I'm just like, they went to the fourth Okay,
fourteen seasons in Seattle, ten playofful appearances, five division wins,
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two super Bowl appearances, one super Bowl win. When I
look at that resume, it's very very impressive. Then I
look at Tom Bill Belichick's resume, and I'm like, well,
if he.
Speaker 6 (45:16):
Didn't get a job, why would any of us these
old people get a job.
Speaker 2 (45:21):
Exactly. And that's which is a great point, because if
you're not going to take everything comes with Bill Belichick
and there's not as much baggage though with Pete Carroll.
We have to go ahead and admit that, though.
Speaker 6 (45:31):
There's also not nearly the level of success.
Speaker 2 (45:35):
No, not nearly. But I saw a story was it
Was it Phil Simms or was it Chris Simms? Excuse me?
I think it was Chris Simms talking about how people
are people in the NFL. We're just tired of Belichick
being all snarky and just you know, I'm paraphrasing, you know,
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just being a horse's ass for twenty years, and this
is their way of getting him back. That's why he
doesn't have a job. Do you believe that?
Speaker 5 (46:03):
Or what.
Speaker 4 (46:06):
A little bit A little bit matter of fact, here's
what it says, an awful announcing. It says Christians not
shocked that the NFL rejected Bill Belichick. He treated most
of them like s for twenty years, is what he said.
I think that the Okay, so that's a little bit
of a misnomer. Did the NFL say Bill Belichick, you're
(46:28):
not going to get this job, or did he interview
He interviewed twice in Atlanta, and then Robert kraftepped in
and told Arthur Blank not to hire him.
Speaker 5 (46:36):
Right.
Speaker 4 (46:37):
I think what the NFL ended up doing is making
a do I want Robert Craft?
Speaker 2 (46:41):
And by the way, Robert Craft and Arthur Blank very
good friends, very good friends. And Robert Craft is one
of the few owners in the NFL.
Speaker 6 (46:49):
Who has.
Speaker 2 (46:51):
He has influence, like he when he says y has influence.
But you notice how he still didn't get voted into
the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 4 (46:58):
I see, yes, I mean that, but it's different people
voting for the Hall of Fame, you know.
Speaker 2 (47:02):
No, yeah, but there's politics going on there too. But
I'm sorry to get you sidetracked, but.
Speaker 4 (47:06):
I think that when you're looking at when these owners
are these owner meetings, I think some of these guys
are looking at Robert Kraft, looking at Jerry Jones, looking
at some of the other like some of those guys
they're looking at them. They're kind of looking up to
them like there are there has to be an inner
circle of Like bike in high school, you had the
cool kids table. Everybody ate once at the same time,
but one you knew who was popular and you knew
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who wasn't, right. I think it's the same thing in
NFL ownership, especially when you consider that all these guys
have some level of wealth, So then it becomes how
much richer are you than me? And then it becomes
how much better is your football team? Than me because
we all have the same parameters to work with. So
I think that Robert Kraft's voice saying, listen, Atlanta, don't
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you hire Bill Belichick sent a message out to the
rest of the NFL and it says, and the under
the you know, the part in parentheses was and that
goes for you too.
Speaker 2 (47:57):
Yeah, but you know, and I actually agree with you
on that. But doesn't another owner stand up and say,
you know what, I don't give a damn I want
a super Bowl. This guy wins super Bowls. If he
doesn't pull it off, I'll get rid of him in
two to three years. Nobody stands up and hires this guy,
even if you're a low tier type team. Nobody.
Speaker 4 (48:15):
So I think what also too, there's a level of
like Dan Snyder was a scumbag by all reports, but
he was the NFL scumbag, you know what I mean.
It's like they like people wouldn't speak out against him
until it was too late, right, I don't we don't
know what level of I don't want to say.
Speaker 2 (48:34):
And I say, what did he do? What did Bill
Belichick exactly do that he treated everybody like as well?
What was he just mean? Was he snarky. I was
it the way he treated players, owners, other coaches. I
find it hard to believe that he would be mistreating
other owners out there. That's my thoughts. Yeah, I don't.
Speaker 4 (48:57):
I mean what does he Could he have been more
in some postgame press conferences, sure, but ultimately I think
that's just going to be the competition level. And I
say it like this, I think that if Mike Tomlin
got fired tomorrow that I'll think that it would be
because the new team that hired him would be. Oh,
he's always so complimentary of his opponents in the postgame
press conferences, right.
Speaker 6 (49:19):
He is, right, right, there's one of the things.
Speaker 4 (49:21):
He always goes above and beyond talking about how good
the other team is, even when you know that's not
necessarily true. But I just think I think it boils
down to NFL owners being afraid to step across.
Speaker 6 (49:34):
The line set by some of the other NFL owners.
Speaker 4 (49:38):
And I think the NFL shows you and you have
several different instances, bro whether it be Colin Kaepernick, whether
it be John Gruden, whether it be Bill Belichick, when
the NFL is done with you for whatever reason, it
is done with you, and there you are not walking
back through that door, no matter who you sue, no
matter who you talk to, no matter so I think
(49:58):
ultimately whatever happened, Belichick didn't get that job in Atlanta,
Robert Kraft said, don't hire him.
Speaker 6 (50:04):
He reached out to the Jets.
Speaker 2 (50:05):
But he's going to get a job. That's why he
only did the North Carolina buy me out in a
year for a very small amount of money. He probably
thinks he's gonna go back to the NFL.
Speaker 6 (50:16):
I don't think.
Speaker 4 (50:17):
I don't think he's going I don't, and I think
that people have the wrong read on that buyout. That
buyout is also like Lincoln Riley would have been bought
out of my three five five games ago, but because
it's ninety million dollars, they can't do it. And across
college sports we see these prohibitive buyouts and that's the
reason why a lot of these guys still have jobs.
(50:39):
I think Belichick said, look like, if this doesn't work
out for the both of us, like we can get
out of this in an easy way.
Speaker 6 (50:46):
I don't think that. But he's leaving it open. But
that's fine, leave it open. I'm also leaving open.
Speaker 4 (50:52):
The door to my NBA career just in case I
get drafted, right, it's not happening.
Speaker 2 (50:56):
So do you buy that his son's the coaching waiting
then he's gonna take over after thro a year or no?
Speaker 4 (51:00):
I mean I think it sounds nice now, right, but
like that's all gonna be depending on results, right right,
like that all like so.
Speaker 6 (51:09):
Things like that, And I just don't to me, Arnie,
it's just a lot.
Speaker 4 (51:13):
Of egg on face if you go and take this
job and pull out and leave and rite it right
after you got there, especially in a world where we
just saw Kurt Signetti and I know it was Daydad
had a feeble attempt, but we just saw Kurt Signetti
try to win a championship, right because because he went
to Indiana and and and qualify.
Speaker 6 (51:33):
For the playoffs, the ACC got two teams in.
Speaker 4 (51:36):
You tell me you can't win the A C C
or be one of those better teams and really compete.
Speaker 6 (51:40):
I think that's gotta be with it.
Speaker 4 (51:42):
To me, I don't think he's just doing this for
the fun. I think that's why he's Martin.
Speaker 2 (51:47):
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Speaker 4 (01:15):
One.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
Congratulations giving advice to Martin. So if you want to.
Speaker 4 (01:23):
So far Arnie, most of the advice says, don't listen.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
To Arnie, like this one says Rockabilly says, congrats Martin,
you put a ring on it.
Speaker 5 (01:34):
Bro.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
Do not listen to Arnie though about marital advice, he
missed every question on the newly Would game and his
soon to be wife look it up on YouTube. But
we won, Martin, That's all that mattered. So you know,
we won the whole game, and I won a trip
to Micronesia, but I never took it. I didn't even
get the I didn't even get the right serni or
(01:56):
the turtle wax either.
Speaker 4 (01:59):
Gino Smith like performance at sevent sixty yards in a
winter yes, yes, exactly, no second half touchdown.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
I couldn't. I couldn't go on the on the trip,
and you know my wife was pregnant at the time.
We want a trip to Micronesia, and I like, we
couldn't go to Hawaii, had to be Micronesia. Here here's
more advice for you. Okay, let me give you this
when you're when you're soon to be. Wife says, where
do you want to go on your honeymoon? Do not
leave it up to her like I did with my wife. Okay,
(02:30):
do not leave it up to her, because I left
it up to my wife, and I don't want to
disparage any place. I'm I'm sure every place is nice,
but we went to the worst place possible. Where did
you go? We went to the worst. I mean it
was nice, beautiful, but there wasn't much to do. We
(02:51):
went to the Canadian Rockies Lake Louise bamf you know
that area? Sure? Sure?
Speaker 5 (02:58):
What?
Speaker 2 (02:59):
Let me tell you something. I said to my wife,
what are we doing today? She goes, well, we're going
to the lake. We went to the lake. She goes,
isn't it beautiful? I go, yeah, it's gorgeous. She goes, here,
drink some of the water. Okay, drink some of the water.
Now what now? What are we gonna do the other
nine days and twenty three hours? How many? How many
lakes do you think you're gonna take me to? And say,
(03:21):
look at the water, drink the water because I'm full. Now, okay,
one lake is good for me. I don't have to
go to another lake, right, I don't have to go
up and there's no snow. It's lake in September. So
where you taking me? You're taking me to a bunch
of lakes to look at the water and drink the water.
(03:42):
What the hell are you doing? Why did I agree
to go on the Canadian Rockies? Why do we gonna
Hawaii or something like that? Don't go to the Canadian
It's beautiful, but there's nothing to do.
Speaker 4 (03:53):
You don't have to worry about that. I do not
think that's gonna be on our list. And okay, good,
no chance, yes, no nothing to do.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
I mean you're looking around and then you know you're
bored after that. I'm like, oh, it's the first day.
It's the first hour. We looked at the water. I
drank the water. Now what the hell am I gonna
do for the next nine days? Ten days? Ten days?
We took honeymoon.
Speaker 6 (04:20):
I like how that was just testing the strength of
your marriage?
Speaker 4 (04:23):
Yes, exactly. I mean, look, I know there was other
stuff we could do, but that's not the point I'm
thinking about. When we're going out during the day, sure,
and we're checking out the town.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
The towns are small. I mean, the best time we
had I think we went to Calgary and then had
a good time there. But other than that, it was
I mean, come on, man, it's a snoozefest looking at
the lakes and drinking the water. Go someplace fun. Go
to Hawaii, get yourself some tropical drinks right there. Believe me,
it's the best advice I can give you. Okay, go
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someplace you're gonna have fun. You can relax, pool, beach,
something like that. Don't go to the Canadian Rockies. Now
I'm gonna get in trouble from what the Chamber of
Commerce or the Canadian.
Speaker 6 (05:03):
Rockies, the Royal Mounties might come get you.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
The Royal the Royal mounthis are gonna be mad at me.
So you know, look again, it's a beautiful place.
Speaker 4 (05:13):
I'm not saying it's anything wrong with that, but you know,
like how much water are you gonna drink?
Speaker 2 (05:18):
Before?
Speaker 5 (05:19):
You know?
Speaker 2 (05:19):
Why don't you go to the Bahamas or something like that.
Speaker 4 (05:22):
You know, Karaka, Well you can't drink the water, but
you can't drink the mita.
Speaker 6 (05:26):
That's my point. That's round goals, that's my play.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
And you know that you get you get great deals
to Hawaii to there's so many great deals. So any
advice for Martin would be greatly appreciated when he should
get married, where he should go on his honeymoon? Any advice, Uh,
just send it to ad Martin Weiss or add stinking
Genius one. Remember no to the If your wife ever said, hey,
(05:50):
I got a great place. We're going to the Canadian Rockies.
Run okay, run right? Could you wouldn't that be funny
if that's the play, the one place she game up with,
Hey let's go to the Canadian Rocky I'd have to
play this four.
Speaker 4 (06:04):
I'd be like, listen, you should hear the other things
about it. Already says about his fair This is how
you want to start it off?
Speaker 2 (06:10):
Is this the play? Because you've better be drinking a
lot of water, that's for sure. All right that Martin Wise,
I've been sticking genius one. Matt Verderam joins us at
the bottom of the hour. All Right, a couple of
things I wanted to get to. I wanted to start
off with this because I know we want to get
into the college playoffs. In the bowl games? Are you
paying attention to these bowl games?
Speaker 4 (06:29):
I know we had a five overtime game, we got
a game going on tonight.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
But to be honest, I mean it's just on in
the background. It's like background noise. I'm less interested more
and more, especially with the twelve team playoff. I could
care less about all the other games. It's like saying
the NFL Playoffs are going on, but the Giants are
going to play the Jets that weekend, also, like anybody
would care. I just don't know. It just seems the
(06:56):
other bowl games would become more relevant than ever now.
Speaker 7 (06:58):
Martin Well, I think it adds actually left to do
with the college football playoff, and more to do with
the transfer portal window being right now, being before people
are playing in their bowl games.
Speaker 5 (07:12):
Right.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
That's another part too.
Speaker 6 (07:13):
I think that's the biggest part.
Speaker 4 (07:14):
You're looking at teams like Duke Football, for example, had
one of their best years ever. And I know that
doesn't matter to a lot of the people listening, but
it matters to the people.
Speaker 6 (07:23):
Who have been fans of Duke.
Speaker 4 (07:25):
And you can't tell me that a Duke football fan
wouldn't have been Jazz for ten wins. They know they're
not gonna win a national championship, but they would have
been Jazz for ten wins if they knew that they
were kind of building something there, But guess what you're
not now you're starting quarterbacks already transferred.
Speaker 6 (07:40):
Now that they're get a transfer quarterback in.
Speaker 4 (07:42):
But again, that was Tulane, another team that nationally you're
not gonna care that much about, but individually, a ton
of people are gonna care, you know what I'm saying.
And like those people who are from New Orleans Tulane fans,
they're gonna care a ton. But now you don't have
your quarterback. So now what I think that's the biggest
is because you don't get to see them. The only
real team I feel like that you're gonna see play
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out the whole season that's not in the playoff.
Speaker 6 (08:08):
That's a team of note is Colorado.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
Right right, Well, that's what they're ensuring their players in
case any of them got hurt. Well, I don't think
that's a bad idea at all. No, not at all.
It's a very good idea, absolutely that I agree with
you there. I'm just wondering if we're just going ahead
and keeping something alive that really doesn't need to be alive.
Do we really need these bowl games and nobody's going
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to them? I promise you that attendance has got to
be low. Maybe they do well on TV, but sooner
or later it will go down just because we're putting
the NFL all over the place and these games are
so meaningless.
Speaker 4 (08:46):
Nobody really cares Martin. That's the reason. That's I think
that's the biggest problem. If they address the transl portal window,
I think you'll see more teams caring about these Bowl games,
or more people caring about these Bowl games, just because
you get to see the same people you saw right Like,
imagine you're going Imagine you go see a movie and
in the last thirty minutes of the movie and it
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changes to all new actors.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
You'd be like, well, I don't even understand what's going
on here. Right right by the way, you just a
little side note on this, because we know Nick Saban
retired from coaching because of the whole nil. It was
just too much for him. Did you see Jim Laernega,
the head coach at Miami Basketball, is stepped down right
in the middle of the year, stepping down saying he
just can't deal with it anymore. He just doesn't understand
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the whole nil. They made it to the Final Four
a couple of years ago, and he knew there was
a problem when eight of his players said they weren't
coming back have to go to the final four. He's
in his seventies. He just doesn't have it anymore to
deal with the nil. And this is going to force
a lot of the older coaches out Martin. And I
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don't know if you think that's a good thing or
a bad thing, but they just can't deal with the nil.
Speaker 3 (09:56):
I don't.
Speaker 4 (09:56):
I mean, I just think it is what it is
is changing of the game. Had so many changes in
the game in games prior. Like the idea, just hell,
just the idea that Arizona State and boys you stayed
are about to play for a potential to advance to
a national championship is something that if I had told
you that five years ago, you would have said, you
sound crazy, right, So.
Speaker 6 (10:16):
Like things change all the time.
Speaker 4 (10:18):
I just think, I think what happens either I mean,
you adapt or you die, right, I don't know, you know, not.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
To be that literal, but either you adapt or you retire.
Speaker 4 (10:28):
Like and I have no problem with the coach hanging
it up because they the rules of engagement have changed.
Speaker 6 (10:33):
But I also think that coaches are going to like
if you're a team that.
Speaker 4 (10:38):
Has perennially been the second, like the little brother in
the state or the little brother in an area. Right,
like Michigan State has had a lot of football success,
but not nearly the amount on the national states that
Michigan has. Right, Michigan State, couldn't you if you get your.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
Nil together, you could run the.
Speaker 4 (10:54):
State for a while, right, you could really compete on
some of these higher levels. And hey for some of
these guys, because not everybody can go afford to go Alabama.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
Rather, I should say, can't afford to pay everybody to Ohio.
Speaker 4 (11:06):
State, even at twenty million dollars, can't afford to pay
everybody at this at this state.
Speaker 6 (11:11):
In time, you can get your money up, you can
get your team up, you know.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
I want to talk about the games the next round
of the tournament before I do that, though, I was shocked,
and I know you and I filled in. When did
we fill in? I don't even remember now, Martin last week? Right,
we filled in last week? I don't know what d
thanks for helping me out. I'm sorry. I don't know either.
It's been a long week for me. I know I
don't do it a lot. We filled in and there
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was a pushback from the first round of the College
playoff and people like, you see, you know, sm you
didn't belong, Indiana didn't belong. All four games were a blowout.
This is horrible. I'm like, whoa, whoa, whoa. Everybody, you know,
relax for a second. There, it's the first year, right,
(11:56):
it's our first year. We're all straightened it out. We'll
get it to work. Arizona State doesn't have a buy
and boys, he doesn't have a buye and and we'll
fix it up and we'll get the right things after
a year or two. But people, I didn't expect the
backlash about all this, how the Tennessee fans that we're
getting ripped. It was. It was crazy out there, you know,
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and especially after we said all this time.
Speaker 4 (12:20):
Arguing is about the five teams that should have been
in it should fifth time have been in.
Speaker 6 (12:25):
Like I have no sympathy for arguing.
Speaker 8 (12:28):
About the thirteenth best team in the nation not being
able to play for the national championship. Like what the
thirteenth best team in the NFL just barely gets an
opportunity to play, right, Depending on how it all say
shakes out then basketball, you know, the top sixteen, but
the top third there's one hundred and some college football.
Speaker 6 (12:46):
Teams like I spare me, just spare me.
Speaker 4 (12:50):
And honestly, I think ultimately the biggest problem is those
games were boring. But the other problem is we're gonna
have boring games in the first round of the playoffs
because there's a reason why one team got the higher seed.
There's the reason why one team got the lower seed.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
They're better, right, Well, well you don't have to, but
you know it doesn't have to be boring. It was.
You know, some of these games are going to be close.
It's not gonna be like this all the time. Plus
we're gonna redo it where Arizona State and Boise State
and schools like that don't get the first round by
and that they have to play in the first round.
Speaker 6 (13:21):
So I also think, aren't he just real quick?
Speaker 4 (13:24):
I think that now more than ever, you're gonna have
like random Arizona States or Boise State or North Carolina
or I know, Indiana's like all these teams failed on
the biggest stage so far this year. But there's with
the transferportal, the way it is, somebody, the right guy
is gonna get the right job, and he's going to
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basically swoop in similar to like Deon Sanders did, and
it will be a guy who was a first year
coach our second year coach.
Speaker 6 (13:53):
Is that like it could That's what I'm saying. It
very well could be.
Speaker 4 (13:57):
But that's going to happen to as but as as
the playing field, because it's not about any any of
the stuff it used to be about anymore. It's all
about the money. So once you get sick of talking
about the prestige and what, oh, you know, this is
what Alabama degree can do for you. Now once State,
once somebody ponies up like t Boone Pickens is like
(14:18):
a billionaire. Once he just was like, you know what,
I'm gonna put sixty five million dollars down for Oklahoma
State football.
Speaker 6 (14:25):
Now what right? And then and then see what happened.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
Like they're gonna win because they can afford. It's like baseball.
Speaker 4 (14:31):
They're gonna win because they have one through nine, are
all twenty two players on all Phil Knight.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
Are gonna be pro. Phil Knight gives a boat load
to Oregon. But what you don't know is he also
gives money to Oregon State two and other schools. I
think he gives the Stanford. He does mix it up
a little bit. It's not just all the Oregon.
Speaker 4 (14:47):
Yeah, but he's that's when he's mostly connected to, right,
I mean, like that was the thing that I used
to personally as a fan of the University of Michigan
the first few years when the NIL wasn't there. I'm like,
how is it that the universe city who the alumni are,
the people that founded.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
Google, and we can't afford a quarterback and now we
can't have ten million dollars? What does that do for
the other schools though that can't do that? Though that
doesn't have Oracle in their background or Tom Brady helping
you out. What about all the other schools that can't
afford that?
Speaker 4 (15:19):
Uh, they will probably operate similar Like like I said,
it's like baseball, So there'll be the Pittsburgh Pirates and
like that.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
That's just the way it's gonna be until they find
some level of well.
Speaker 4 (15:31):
I think really the they have to condense a lot
of this stuff. If they want true parody and college football,
they have to condense it to one transfer portal window
and put in an actual salary cap right, So the
money is similar along the play, but it's just way
too much work to try to do. So I think
eventually it's gonna become way more of the haves and
the have nots.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
I didn't think it would get this side of control
where you're paying kids just to visit your campus too.
You know, a half a mill a mill two mil
just to come down and visit. You got to be crazy.
You better be giving me a commitment. And if I'm
gonna give you that type of money, I can't do that.
Speaker 6 (16:02):
See. That's the thing though, Arnie. When the money that.
Speaker 4 (16:05):
You get paid is not directly for the service that
you're rendering, it all gets messed up. Like we're not
getting paid to like we're getting paid right now because
we're talking on the radio.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
Like if you go to.
Speaker 4 (16:16):
Colorado or wherever, wherever you go in college football, ostensibly
you are not getting paid for quote unquote playing football.
So it's like the it's just it messes all the
there's no real metric now, there's no will well, this
guy threw for twenty seven touchdowns, you threw for twenty three.
Speaker 6 (16:32):
Like in the NFL when they do new contracts.
Speaker 4 (16:34):
They look at players like brock Party, for example, when
he sits down for his contract negotiations, he's gonna look at, well,
look at what Trevor Lawrence in his first few years.
I did more than that. I did more than this
guy did more than that guy. This is why I
deserve this much money. Now that doesn't exist in college football.
Eventually it will if there's a salary cap, but until
then it's just gonna be the rich get rich.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
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Speaker 2 (18:32):
I was listening to this on my a track on
the way in good evening, everybody, Martin Weiss, Arnie Span,
you're right here on Fox Sports Radio in for the
Guys Night Jason Smith and his best friend Mike Harmon.
I hope everybody had a great Christmas out there. I
want to get right to our guest joining us. Now
you can check him out. He's a writer and that's
I also has the Matt Verderram Show. You can go
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ahead and check out on Patreon. It's our buddy, Matt Verdram. Matt,
did you have a great Christmas?
Speaker 6 (18:57):
My friend?
Speaker 5 (18:58):
I don't wonder for Christmas?
Speaker 2 (18:59):
How was your It was great? And thanks for joining us.
We certainly appreciate it. What about to make it your
a chief? Seriously, fifteen to one? I keep saying that
to the most overrated ten and one team, eleven and
one team, fifteen to one team. I just don't know.
I'm waiting for them to trip up, waiting for Buffalo
to beat them in the playoffs or Baltimore. I can't
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believe they've had this good of a run and Patrick
Mahomes not being considered for the MVP.
Speaker 5 (19:27):
I mean, how many years have you been waiting for
them to trip up, for to lose to the Bills
in the playoffs? Fight? Half a decade at this.
Speaker 2 (19:34):
Point, pretty much?
Speaker 5 (19:36):
Yeah? Yeah, Look, I listen all serious, Ntorny, like, I
totally understand there is absolutely part of this team. You
look at them this year and you say Okay, look defensively,
they're really good. Offensively, it has been inconsistent at best.
That being said, the last two games, all of a sudden,
they look by they should look offensively, and I don't
(19:57):
think it's a coincidence. In those last two games Hollywood
Brown came back because now, all of a sudden, you
put Hopkins in the slot, that's where he belongs. Worthy
Now it's a lot harder to just roll coverage that way.
Worthy in the last two games has had two of
his three biggest games of the year, and the last
last game he had his career high at a catch
of seventy nine yards. Kelsey. Now it's not as easy
(20:19):
to just squat down and drop the safety out of
the box. So I think there's a lot of things
to play.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
With.
Speaker 5 (20:26):
Tooney also sliding out and playing left tackle. That has
solved the massive problem for this team because they could
not block all year long left tackle as a black hole.
I would argue it was the worst left tackle situation
for any contending team in the league. And so right now,
I mean they're the favorite. They are going to be
home for the playoffs. They're probably getting Houston or Pittsburgh
in the Divisional round. If we want to look a
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little bit ahead, and if they win that game, they
got to win one big game. They got to be
Baltimore Buffalo at home. And frankly, I mean, if you're
sitting there saying, would you bet on him? I mean yeah,
probably based on their track record, probably would.
Speaker 4 (20:59):
So now that Chiefs have like twenty six days or
so just basically without playing meaningful football to locking up
the one seed, how do you expect the Chiefs to
approach this next I mean, damn near month where you
know it's while still trying to stay sharp.
Speaker 5 (21:17):
I think you're going to see them, you know, Reskys
against Denver. I don't think you're going to see many
meaningful players in that game in Week eight. Team they
just they're not going to take a chance. I get
hurt Andy Reid in the past, and they've had those
those situations, that's what he's kind of leaned into. And
they've had a couple of years like this in the
Mahomes era where they've been the one seed and they
haven't had to play the last week of the year either.
(21:40):
I don't expect to see Mahomes at all, and we
not even for a quarter. So I think that's going
to be part of this. But I do think, you know,
they'll go pretty light here this week and next week,
and then I think you might see a situation where
maybe that that bye week during the playoffs, where they
in practice, maybe they have you know, some simulated game situation.
Obviously no hitting, nothing, no tiging through the ground, stuff
(22:02):
like that, but just I think to keep sharp, they're
gonna they're going to do a lot of game simulation
type things, uh, to keep them session on offense and rhythm.
So I think right now, really it's just about getting healthy,
getting getting right, resting the older bodies on the team.
You know, they're not a bunch of young pups in
that team anymore in some spots. So I think that's
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going to be the main priority.
Speaker 2 (22:24):
Matt, What what happens first? That will consider this Chiefs
run better than the Patriots run, will consider Mahomes better
than Brady, will consider Andy Reid better than Belichick? Which
one happens first?
Speaker 5 (22:37):
I think I think read I think read wow, because
because because I'm not saying it's right, but I think
the reasoning would be because there's already that whole like, well,
who was it was it Brady or a Bellochick. And
of course Brady winning in Tampa kind of you know,
adshield of that arrangement, Whereas I think with Andy Reid,
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you could say Willie never won in Philly, but he
had a rate run name Shodolph yet where Belichick never
had a great run without Brady. So I think that's
probably the argument. I will say this, you could just
say the Chiefs being better than New England. From this standpoint,
if the Chiefs win the super Bowl in a month
and a half time, they're the greatest team in full time.
(23:19):
If they went three Super Bowls in a row, that's
end of the argument. They'll have won three in a row.
They'll have won four out of six. They have been
to five Super Bowls in six years and seventh straight
AFC title game, won nine straight divisions. I mean, I
don't know if they win the super Bowl this year,
I don't think there's any argument that they're not the
greatest team, at least of the Super Bowl era.
Speaker 2 (23:38):
Well I agree with that as well.
Speaker 4 (23:41):
But if you had to pick a team from the
AFC that would be likely to spoil this Kansas City party,
which one would it be? After you know, we have
pretty much almost all the evidence we're going to see
out of the big playoff teams.
Speaker 5 (23:52):
Yeah, you know, I think it would be Buffalo for
no other reason because of the style that they play.
I just I think they're the hardest matchup for the
Chiefs in the playoffs. I don't think Pittsburgh, Houston Chargers,
in the Broncos. I don't think they've enough offense. I
think all those teams are good enough defensively that maybe
they give them a game. I just I don't think
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they can score enough. So really it's Buffalo of Baltimore
and the Ravens. So here's the funny thing at the ACP.
At least from my perspective, I actually think the Bills
are a harder matchup for the Chiefs than the Ravens are,
because the Chiefs is just it's handled walmar A and
Ptokery meeting them one time, they just always played well
against them. Conversely, I think if you're Buffalo, you've got
(24:36):
to play the Chiefs in the races. I actually think
the Bills probably haven't to see the Ravens in the
divisional round is a problem because I don't think I
don't think Buffalo is going to be Baltimore even when
they plan. I think I think Baltimore is going to
line up and run the ball down Buffalo's throat literally
for about two hundred and thirty yards because the Bill,
the Bills do not come out of nickel. They refuse
to come out of that look because they want tarn
(24:58):
Johnson to be in there as a nickel backer, and
it's it's death against Baltimore. Baltimore will just line up
in two tight ends and run power at them fifty times.
So I think Buffalo is a harder matchup for the
Chiefs that I don't know that they're going to shamp.
Speaker 2 (25:14):
Why don't we going to start jumping on la Mark, Well,
we already have, but Lamar Jackson's got to get into
the super Bowl sooner or later. We're going to hold
a responsible for those no playoff wins, hardly any playoff
wins here.
Speaker 5 (25:25):
Yeah, listen, it's fair or not, Arnie, you know it.
I know it. Like it's when you're a quarterback and
you're a great quarterback, lot more certainly a great quarterback,
you are judged historically not by anything more than how
many did you win? It did you win. I mean,
Dan Marino, you could make a great argument the greatest
(25:46):
year passer in NFL history. And yet when we talk
about the greatest quarterbacks of all time, he does not
come up immediately because he didn't win. And so I think,
if if you're Lamar Jackson, but one super Bowl, he
doesn't need to need multiple he wins won super Bowl,
he's I mean, you're talking about him as like one
of the all time greats because you'll win multi MVPs,
(26:08):
He'll won a championship. He's obviously an icronic player of
this generation. But if he doesn't win one, and if
they go to the playoffs this year and they lose,
let's say, to get to the second round, they're losing Buffalow,
You're gonna walk away from the year going that's great
that Lamar had the year that he had. Who cares,
He's done it, It doesn't matter like that's and by
the way, the same thing is true with Josh Allen.
(26:29):
Josh Allen's MVP this year. But they lose to Baltimore,
they lose the Kansas City in the playoffs, nobody's gonna care.
Nobody's going back in five years and go, well, you
know it's a successful year for Josh. I know it's
not He's gonna win Super Bowl. And that that right
now for those two guys, That is all this is about.
Speaker 4 (26:45):
Now, do you think there's any added pressure with the
idea that they the Bears?
Speaker 2 (26:51):
I'm not the Bears? Whoops, my bad.
Speaker 4 (26:53):
Josh Allen and the and Lamar Jackson are both kind
of neck and neck right now, depending on between one
and two for MVP odds. They're both kind of going
back and forth in the conversation. I know, since to
your point Lamar Jackson being one of the all, I
think he may be the only guy with multiple MVPs
who's never won a Super Bowl, much less been to
one like that, adding an extra regular season accolade to
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these teams that have been so successful in regular season
that add any postseason pressure to them.
Speaker 5 (27:24):
I mean, little old little look at Jacks Olyne's MVP, right,
and you have three MVPs and you haven't gone to
a Super Bowl. And let's be honest about this. The
big reason the Ravens has knocked onto super Bowls he's
been terrible the playoffs. Yes, I mean it's not like
he's been unbelievable and they've given up forty five points
a game. Like he has played his worst football in January,
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and so he will be just for that. Alan is
a little bit different in a sense. He has played
very good football for the most part in January, but
if you look at his career in the playoffs, he
is mostly beaten. Quarterbacks core very forgettable. Skyler Thompson, Mac Jones,
Mason Rudolph, Like, who cares? Nobody cares that you won
(28:09):
those games? Man, Like you're zero and four against Mahomes
in Borough. That's and two of those things when you're building,
they run your racket. Me lost those games, So I
do think those I would argue that in either conference,
there is no two plays. Nobody's under more pressure those
two guys like Mahomes, there's no you'd love to repeat
and all that, Like the guys won three super Bowls.
(28:30):
He's a first dollar fame there's no there's no defining
pressure on him where there is with those two.
Speaker 2 (28:35):
Yeah, I love it, Matt. It was good to connect again,
my friend. You can check out mad Verte Ram and
Si also on his on his podcast, my Friend, enjoy It,
Enjoy your Kansas City Chiefs. Are you going to any
games or what?
Speaker 5 (28:48):
Yeah, I'll be at the Division round and uh, maybe
even for the championship game, depending on my travel schedule
for the uh, the seemable.
Speaker 2 (28:56):
I love it. I love it, Matt, Thanks lot, buddy,
will speak to you later on.
Speaker 5 (29:00):
Hey, take care.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
There you go, Matt Verderm. Everybody go ahead and check
them out out.
Speaker 4 (29:03):
Yeah, that's a that's a fun place to go see
a game, Martin, no doubt about that.
Speaker 2 (29:07):
I'm sure we'll come back. We'll talk a little bit
about what Matt had to say first. So let's check
in with our buddy, Martin Weiss. Let's see what's trending,
because we still got a bowl game going on in
some NBA too.
Speaker 4 (29:17):
I believe we do still have a bowl game going on.
Speaker 2 (29:20):
I will do a second to check on the NBA.
Give me one second to get ready.
Speaker 4 (29:23):
Arkansas stay with a thirty one to twenty four lead
over Bowling Green, which I've parney I partied at several
times in undergrad. Bowling Green drove down from the University
of Michigan five point thirty seven left in the third quarter.
There again thirty one to twenty four to score in
the NBA, So we had two games going on right now.
The Sacramento Kings extending their lead over the Detroit Pistons
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seventy nine to sixty four, six twenty one left in
the third quarter, with just under three minutes left in
the third quarter. Utah has a seventy nine to sixty
eight lead.
Speaker 2 (29:56):
Over the Portland Trail Blazers.
Speaker 4 (29:59):
In the NFL today, we had a barn burner of
a game, six to three. The final score Seahawks improved
to nine and seven, Bears fall to four and twelve.
Caleb Williams throws an interception. It's his first interception and
three hundred and ninety four pass attempts.
Speaker 2 (30:16):
Wow.
Speaker 4 (30:16):
Yeah, setting the rookie record. So congratulations to Caleb and
yet another loss for them. He's lost more games this
year than he's lost like his entire college.
Speaker 2 (30:25):
Career, it feels like.
Speaker 4 (30:27):
But Geno Smith has seventeen for twenty three hundred and
sixty yards through the air, sack sharp and a fifty
seven yards on the ground DJ more fifty four yards
on the ground.
Speaker 2 (30:36):
Tough game for scoring touchdowns. There were none scored at
all in.
Speaker 4 (30:40):
The NBA Earlier today, the thunderbeat the Pacers one twenty
to one fourteen. Sga had forty five points, seven rebounds,
eight assists. The heat I have a won eight excuse me,
barn Burner against the Magic eighty nine to eighty eight.
Haimi Hokis fifteen and five steals. Wizards off of Jordan
Poole game winning shot beat the Hornets one thirteen to ten.
(31:03):
He had twenty five and six. The Hawks beat the
Bulls one forty one to one thirty three. Dylan Johnson
with thirty points fifteen rebounds Grizzlies won fifty five over
the Raptors one twenty six. Jaron Jackson with a double
double points and rebounds, Nets beat the Bucks one eleven
to one oh five, and the Rockets beat the Pelicans
one twenty eight to one eleven. In college football, I said,
(31:26):
we just had that bowl game.
Speaker 6 (31:29):
I just had it ready.
Speaker 2 (31:29):
Where to go anywhay to go?
Speaker 4 (31:31):
Thirty one to twenty four, Arkansas State thirty one to
twenty four Arkansas State.
Speaker 2 (31:36):
There were two other games today.
Speaker 4 (31:38):
Toledo beat Pittsburgh forty eight to forty six in six overtimes.
Kansas State beat Rutgers forty four to forty one, and Arnie.
I got a problem with the way they measure in
this college football over time. What I really truly do
Let's go back to the show now, I up that
is we've updated everything, all right?
Speaker 2 (31:58):
Yeah, because when I have this thing and they can just.
Speaker 4 (32:01):
Call timeouts in and out of like we watched it
in the Georgia was a Georgia Texas game.
Speaker 6 (32:08):
They're calling the time.
Speaker 4 (32:09):
Kirby's calling the time about every single overtime, and the
overtime is.
Speaker 6 (32:12):
One play long, right, it used to be.
Speaker 2 (32:15):
Like four or five plays long.
Speaker 4 (32:17):
I just don't like the fact now that we're sitting
here talking about record setting overtime periods when it's not
even real overtime.
Speaker 2 (32:27):
It's not real overtime. And do you get an extra
time out per overtime?
Speaker 4 (32:31):
I don't you get one time out per Oh wow?
So you keep adding another one every time you get
that exactly, So remember, Kirby Schwarker, just take it. They
just burn timeouts. Take what they call that Kodak time
out to see what the defense is going to be
set up in and then you run your play. I
don't know how many people were tuned into the Game
of Love Sports Bowl, but six overtimes too much.
Speaker 2 (32:52):
We don't need that. What do you want him to
do though? You want them to play a full game
and just have the first team to score wins it
like they did in the NFL playoffs. Is that the
way you want it to be done or what?
Speaker 6 (33:02):
Honestly, I liked the old way.
Speaker 2 (33:04):
I liked that. I really did like the old way.
Speaker 4 (33:06):
I thought while it did not you know, in almost
every other sport, like the.
Speaker 2 (33:11):
Only way it could go longer was you weren't going
for two points, you could just keep kicking the extra point.
Speaker 4 (33:15):
Right, But it was so it was it was closer
to what football actually is.
Speaker 2 (33:20):
I like football for whatever reason.
Speaker 4 (33:21):
Like in hockey, when they do they stop doing, they
stopped playing and they go to a shootout, like they decide,
we're going to decide the game differently than the way
we were playing this the entire time, Like they don't
do that. In basketball, the way to decide the game
is just to play more. Right in the NFL, the
way they decide the game is just to play more.
I think that overtime does have a special feel to it.
(33:42):
So I don't love just playing more basketball or hockey
or whatever. But I think that just this back and forth,
ping pong of plays is never what football was about.
Speaker 6 (33:54):
And that's what I.
Speaker 4 (33:54):
Don't like, because it's it's all three. You eliminate special
teams from the whole.
Speaker 2 (34:00):
Well Coma used to be like that anyway. They just
didn't make you go for two points early. It was
always put it at the twenty five yard line though.
But I like that because you're still you got to
get a first down.
Speaker 4 (34:10):
It's a truncated version of what actual football is. You
get a couple first downs, you score a touchdown, you
stall out, you kick a field goal.
Speaker 2 (34:17):
That's what football is supposed to be. Yep, I agree
on that part. He's Martin Wie, some Arnie Spanier show,
just flying by. We're coming up on half time. We'll
come back. I do want to finish out a few
things I wanted to get into the NBA. Maybe we'll
do that next. We got some tweets to get to also,
as we get the halftime, Martin and Arnie in for
Jason and Mike right here on Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 3 (34:41):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven
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Speaker 2 (34:48):
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By the way, Martin, now that we watch the game
on Netflix, I'm just kind of curious. Are you a
Squid Game guy or no? Yes, I will be watching
(35:32):
the new season.
Speaker 5 (35:33):
I do.
Speaker 2 (35:34):
It's pretty wild. I love it. I love it. I
don't know if I'm gonna like the new season. I
saw the trailer, and did you see the trailer? I
haven't yet, No, tell me what's going on. The only
thing is it's like there are a couple of the
people are back in the game, so you can have
a few repeat people, but they're also going to try
to like bring down the establishment, I guess is what
(35:57):
it's about. Okay, So enjoyed the whole competition the first time,
though I thought the games got worse as they went along.
I want to see, you know, better type games is
what I wanted to see.
Speaker 6 (36:09):
You know, you want to see a little more competition.
Speaker 2 (36:12):
Yes, exactly. I thought it was great though. I thought
it was an unbelievable series. I had a it was
just a lot of fun to watch.
Speaker 5 (36:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (36:20):
Well, I finally get a second to sit down, I'm
going to lock in and catch up. It just started though,
it just started today. I think, all right, cool, lucky.
I don't know if they released one at a time,
or they release all of them and you just watch
it at your convenience. I don't know if it's like
one a week or until they get all the episodes released,
or if they're all released right now. So if you know,
(36:41):
by the way, let us know, ad Martin Weiss, I'm
instinking genius one And congratulations to Martin. You got engaged.
By the way, where did you Where did you get engaged? Where? Exactly?
Speaker 4 (36:54):
I got an airbnb, so I rented at airbnb and
I set up the uh, you know, I decorated the
house so it was nice.
Speaker 2 (37:03):
Yeah, I got a Airbnb and I second, I decorated it.
Wait a minute, Wait a minute, Wait a minute. I
really wish you'd have asked me about this before you
did that. Why, I mean, you go to the games.
There was no like going to a crypto arena or
whatever and putting up on the on the jumbo trot, Honey,
where you marry me? Nothing like that. I don't know
(37:25):
that you're a sports guy. What's wrong with you?
Speaker 5 (37:28):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (37:28):
I didn't really want to do that, in part because
what if I can't get there to look at the
screen in time, then I just missed a window. Now,
everybody plus two, what if it's a what if the
game stinks?
Speaker 5 (37:42):
Right?
Speaker 4 (37:42):
They gotta think about this, right. Let's say, for example,
like you said Crypto dot com. All right, they said
the Lakers are down by thirty in the middle of
the third quarter, a JJ calls a time out and
the fans are booing as they start to.
Speaker 2 (37:56):
Play the you know, the music and all this and.
Speaker 4 (37:59):
Now I'm I'm on the jumbo tron, me and my
future wife on the jumbo tron. Meanwhile, Lakers fans are
pissed off because Lebron's sitting again for the third game
in a row, and Anthony Davis just got hurt again.
He's limping off the court, and JJ's calling time out
getting a technical found.
Speaker 2 (38:18):
They're booing as I go to propose to get.
Speaker 4 (38:20):
Down on one knee, and now all the internet sees
is everybody booing me can't do it. I didn't think
about that. I didn't that could have possibly happened. That's
not the out the rubber possibility. That's good thinking.
Speaker 2 (38:32):
There ahead no none of the sports things, none of
the let me hide the ring or anything like that.
Just let me get down on one knee and propose.
Pretty simple stuff.
Speaker 6 (38:43):
Uh yeah, man, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4 (38:44):
Look, I'm a straightforward execution type of guy. Before running
the ball, you know what I'm saying. I think dunks
are better than three pointers more often than not. And
you know, when it's his easy, just just just do it.
Speaker 2 (38:57):
Do it. Was there a chance that she was gonna
say no, no, Never a doubt, never a doubt. I
do feel bad for the for the ones that say no,
get out. And some of them are true, I know
a lot of them are rigged and stuff. But there's
women that say no, no, thank you, I don't want
to get married to you.
Speaker 4 (39:15):
I have a few Look if you get now this
is my personal opinion one for one so far proposals
in life. You know, yeah, undefeated, probably gonna stop after
this when I imagine yes, But if you get rejected
on your proposal, it's probably something that you did wrong,
(39:37):
like you had you were the one that misread the scenario.
Speaker 2 (39:40):
I think really so that you just you didn't read
how good you're, how good or how bad the relationship was,
then is what it really was, right exactly?
Speaker 6 (39:50):
You should have had a better idea.
Speaker 2 (39:52):
All right, Well, if you want to give Martin any
advice where you should go to honeymoon? I already told them,
don't go to the Canadian rockies. You can only look
at water and drink clear water for so long, and
then what do you do for the other nine days
in twenty three hours? Are you thinking of any place
like Hawaii or something? Or you're open to just about anything.
(40:12):
I'd say, she probably wants to go to Europe.
Speaker 4 (40:15):
She's been trying to get me to go to Europe
for over like six or seven months.
Speaker 2 (40:20):
Be good, that'd be good.
Speaker 6 (40:22):
I don't mind. I'm not going during football season. So
it's like, it's like, but November is the best time
to go.
Speaker 4 (40:27):
It's like, oh no, what am I supposed to afford
to go to Europe if I'm not working during football season?
Speaker 5 (40:33):
Exactly?
Speaker 6 (40:33):
This is the busy season, this is tax season.
Speaker 2 (40:35):
You'll have to go in like what June or July
or August something like that.
Speaker 4 (40:40):
So I think that'll probably be excuse me, where we
end up with that.
Speaker 2 (40:45):
How long is the engagement going to be?
Speaker 4 (40:48):
When do you want to go ahead and do it?
Do you want to buy next by this summer coming
up or what?
Speaker 2 (40:54):
I mean?
Speaker 4 (40:55):
It'd be cool, but I don't think we'll be able
to plan and save and all of that by.
Speaker 2 (41:00):
This is what I told her. I guess she has
a window. She go down the city hall. Just do
it real quick and save the money. But you're not
you're not listening to me. Now.
Speaker 4 (41:08):
I did propose that, Oh I did propose that. But
ultimately still I do want to have at least a
wedding party, you know, I want to.
Speaker 5 (41:17):
I want to.
Speaker 2 (41:18):
I want to be able to, you know, have fun
after it didn't tell you this?
Speaker 5 (41:21):
What?
Speaker 2 (41:21):
Look, I love my wife. But to this day, when
I saw what my mother in law spent on a wedding,
but she's super rich, I get sick to my stomach saying,
why did you just give us the money? Why? I
want to just why to just give us the money
and we could have done something with that. That's what
a waste of money, What a waste of money that was.
So Yeah, I would save as much as you can
(41:45):
so you can afford your first house, Martin. That's that's
my advice to you.
Speaker 6 (41:49):
That is the plan we're trying to do.
Speaker 4 (41:50):
We're not gonna go We're not gonna go super crazy
on it, but we I think we are going to
have one.
Speaker 2 (41:55):
I don't know if the courthouse is going to get
it done first, all right, any advice for Martin please
add Martin White. I'm a stinking genius. One we misster
Barton Berner there while we hopped on the air six
to three, Seattle wins it. It doesn't really make a
difference because these games are going to be here to stay.
But what a stinker that one was. That was an
(42:15):
absolutely horrible game, Martin.
Speaker 4 (42:17):
Yeah, you know, you had a little bit of weather
that was impacting it. But also too, I just think
what we might have seen is thinking Gino Smith's best
days are going to be behind him in this league
at this point. And the Bears, I think the Bears, honestly,
they just have a lack of institutional like ability for
(42:38):
success right now. They think about they fired the offensive coordinator,
then they fired the offensive I mean the head coach.
Now the head coach. It was the passing game coordinator
to start the year. They just don't have enough bodies
making decisions in the locker room in Hollas Hall right now,
in my opinion, to put out a winning organization to
be a winning team right speaking about House.
Speaker 2 (42:59):
Hall, them, you saw the rumors, even though there's insiders
fighting among each other to what's true and what's not true.
Pete Carroll's name is coming out. And now you see
Pete Carroll's name tied into the Jets, tied into the Bears.
The Bears were the first team that came out. Is
it Pete Carroll too old to be ahead? What is
(43:22):
he seventy two? I think he is seventy two. Seventy three, Yay,
he's seventy three years old. Okay, why would you want
to come back. Why would you want him? If you're
the Bears, why would you want him? If you're the Jets,
why would you want him? If you're anybody not that
Bill's not had a great career. But again, if you're
(43:45):
not going to take Belichick for whatever reason, if it's
his age, or his time has passed them by or whatever,
or he's just too snarky, you know, then the same
thing applies for Pete Carroll. But are you surprised? Do
you believe these stories that all these teams are coming
after Pete Carroll?
Speaker 4 (44:02):
I believe that Pete Carroll is interested in coaching for
these teams. I don't know how many teams are interested
in Pete Carroll coaching them, right, I think that.
Speaker 6 (44:10):
And that's a big difference.
Speaker 4 (44:13):
But hell yeah, if I was Pete Carroll, one of
the coaching job, because here's the deal, all right, I'm
seventy three, I coached two more years, another cool fifteen
to twenty million dollars I can put into the bank. Well,
my guaranteed coaching. I can't argue with money. But that's
beside the point. If he hasn't made enough money up
till now, with all those years in Seattle. Then he's
got a bad financial advisor. Then, Martin, I don't know
(44:35):
what to tell you about that.
Speaker 2 (44:36):
Sure, putting another ten or twenty million dollars, then you
might as well coach until your one hundred and fifty,
then I guess.
Speaker 4 (44:43):
I mean, I think some of these guys would if
they had the opportunity to win the health to you know,
and and the health to But you know the thing
about Pete's like I think that. I mean, you saw
how much energy he had on a day to day basis.
But I'm just like, they went to the fourth Okay,
fourteen seasons in Seattle, ten playofful appearances, five division wins,
(45:06):
two super Bowl appearances, one super Bowl win. When I
look at that resume, it's very very impressive. Then I
look at Tom Bill Belichick's resume, and I'm like, well,
if he.
Speaker 6 (45:16):
Didn't get a job, why would any of us these
old people get a job.
Speaker 2 (45:21):
Exactly. And that's which is a great point, because if
you're not going to take everything comes with Bill Belichick
and there's not as much baggage though with Pete Carroll.
We have to go ahead and admit that, though.
Speaker 6 (45:31):
There's also not nearly the level of success.
Speaker 2 (45:35):
No, not nearly. But I saw a story was it
Was it Phil Simms or was it Chris Simms? Excuse me?
I think it was Chris Simms talking about how people
are people in the NFL. We're just tired of Belichick
being all snarky and just you know, I'm paraphrasing, you know,
(45:56):
just being a horse's ass for twenty years, and this
is their way of getting him back. That's why he
doesn't have a job. Do you believe that?
Speaker 5 (46:03):
Or what.
Speaker 4 (46:06):
A little bit A little bit matter of fact, here's
what it says, an awful announcing. It says Christians not
shocked that the NFL rejected Bill Belichick. He treated most
of them like s for twenty years, is what he said.
I think that the Okay, so that's a little bit
of a misnomer. Did the NFL say Bill Belichick, you're
(46:28):
not going to get this job, or did he interview
He interviewed twice in Atlanta, and then Robert kraftepped in
and told Arthur Blank not to hire him.
Speaker 5 (46:36):
Right.
Speaker 4 (46:37):
I think what the NFL ended up doing is making
a do I want Robert Craft?
Speaker 2 (46:41):
And by the way, Robert Craft and Arthur Blank very
good friends, very good friends. And Robert Craft is one
of the few owners in the NFL.
Speaker 6 (46:49):
Who has.
Speaker 2 (46:51):
He has influence, like he when he says y has influence.
But you notice how he still didn't get voted into
the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 4 (46:58):
I see, yes, I mean that, but it's different people
voting for the Hall of Fame, you know.
Speaker 2 (47:02):
No, yeah, but there's politics going on there too. But
I'm sorry to get you sidetracked, but.
Speaker 4 (47:06):
I think that when you're looking at when these owners
are these owner meetings, I think some of these guys
are looking at Robert Kraft, looking at Jerry Jones, looking
at some of the other like some of those guys
they're looking at them. They're kind of looking up to
them like there are there has to be an inner
circle of Like bike in high school, you had the
cool kids table. Everybody ate once at the same time,
but one you knew who was popular and you knew
(47:28):
who wasn't, right. I think it's the same thing in
NFL ownership, especially when you consider that all these guys
have some level of wealth, So then it becomes how
much richer are you than me? And then it becomes
how much better is your football team? Than me because
we all have the same parameters to work with. So
I think that Robert Kraft's voice saying, listen, Atlanta, don't
(47:48):
you hire Bill Belichick sent a message out to the
rest of the NFL and it says, and the under
the you know, the part in parentheses was and that
goes for you too.
Speaker 2 (47:57):
Yeah, but you know, and I actually agree with you
on that. But doesn't another owner stand up and say,
you know what, I don't give a damn I want
a super Bowl. This guy wins super Bowls. If he
doesn't pull it off, I'll get rid of him in
two to three years. Nobody stands up and hires this guy,
even if you're a low tier type team. Nobody.
Speaker 4 (48:15):
So I think what also too, there's a level of
like Dan Snyder was a scumbag by all reports, but
he was the NFL scumbag, you know what I mean.
It's like they like people wouldn't speak out against him
until it was too late, right, I don't we don't
know what level of I don't want to say.
Speaker 2 (48:34):
And I say, what did he do? What did Bill
Belichick exactly do that he treated everybody like as well?
What was he just mean? Was he snarky. I was
it the way he treated players, owners, other coaches. I
find it hard to believe that he would be mistreating
other owners out there. That's my thoughts. Yeah, I don't.
Speaker 4 (48:57):
I mean what does he Could he have been more
in some postgame press conferences, sure, but ultimately I think
that's just going to be the competition level. And I
say it like this, I think that if Mike Tomlin
got fired tomorrow that I'll think that it would be
because the new team that hired him would be. Oh,
he's always so complimentary of his opponents in the postgame
press conferences, right.
Speaker 6 (49:19):
He is, right, right, there's one of the things.
Speaker 4 (49:21):
He always goes above and beyond talking about how good
the other team is, even when you know that's not
necessarily true. But I just think I think it boils
down to NFL owners being afraid to step across.
Speaker 6 (49:34):
The line set by some of the other NFL owners.
Speaker 4 (49:38):
And I think the NFL shows you and you have
several different instances, bro whether it be Colin Kaepernick, whether
it be John Gruden, whether it be Bill Belichick, when
the NFL is done with you for whatever reason, it
is done with you, and there you are not walking
back through that door, no matter who you sue, no
matter who you talk to, no matter so I think
(49:58):
ultimately whatever happened, Belichick didn't get that job in Atlanta,
Robert Kraft said, don't hire him.
Speaker 6 (50:04):
He reached out to the Jets.
Speaker 2 (50:05):
But he's going to get a job. That's why he
only did the North Carolina buy me out in a
year for a very small amount of money. He probably
thinks he's gonna go back to the NFL.
Speaker 6 (50:16):
I don't think.
Speaker 4 (50:17):
I don't think he's going I don't, and I think
that people have the wrong read on that buyout. That
buyout is also like Lincoln Riley would have been bought
out of my three five five games ago, but because
it's ninety million dollars, they can't do it. And across
college sports we see these prohibitive buyouts and that's the
reason why a lot of these guys still have jobs.
(50:39):
I think Belichick said, look like, if this doesn't work
out for the both of us, like we can get
out of this in an easy way.
Speaker 6 (50:46):
I don't think that. But he's leaving it open. But
that's fine, leave it open. I'm also leaving open.
Speaker 4 (50:52):
The door to my NBA career just in case I
get drafted, right, it's not happening.
Speaker 2 (50:56):
So do you buy that his son's the coaching waiting
then he's gonna take over after thro a year or no?
Speaker 4 (51:00):
I mean I think it sounds nice now, right, but
like that's all gonna be depending on results, right right,
like that all like so.
Speaker 6 (51:09):
Things like that, And I just don't to me, Arnie,
it's just a lot.
Speaker 4 (51:13):
Of egg on face if you go and take this
job and pull out and leave and rite it right
after you got there, especially in a world where we
just saw Kurt Signetti and I know it was Daydad
had a feeble attempt, but we just saw Kurt Signetti
try to win a championship, right because because he went
to Indiana and and and qualify.
Speaker 6 (51:33):
For the playoffs, the ACC got two teams in.
Speaker 4 (51:36):
You tell me you can't win the A C C
or be one of those better teams and really compete.
Speaker 6 (51:40):
I think that's gotta be with it.
Speaker 4 (51:42):
To me, I don't think he's just doing this for
the fun. I think that's why he's Martin.
Speaker 2 (51:47):
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