December 27, 2024 • 41 mins
Arnie Spanier and Martin Weiss (in for Jason and Mike) open the hour with a discussion on the state of bowl games in college football. NFL writer for Sports Illustrated Matt Verderame joins the show to talk some NFL football, hitting on the Thursday Night Football game between the Seahawks and Bears, the Christmas Day slate of games, and setting up the rest of the weekend's matchups. Plus, talking about the NBA's struggle to transition into a new era.
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Speaker 3 (00:29):
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part of the show. Real Simple at Martin Weiss, It's
(01:13):
thinking Genius one. Congratulations giving advice to Martin. So if
you want to.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
So far Arnie. Most of the advice says don't listen to.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
Arnie, like this one says. Rockabilly says, congrats Martin, you
put a ring on it. Bro. Do not listen to
Arnie though about marital advice, he missed every question on
the new We Would game, and his soon to be
wife look it up on YouTube. But we won, Martin,
That's all that mattered. So you know, we won the
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whole game, and I won a trip to Micronesia, but
I never took it. I didn't even get the I
didn't even get the right serni or the turtle wax either.
Speaker 4 (01:58):
Gino Smith like performance and seventy and sixty yards in
a winter yes, yes, exactly, no second half touchdown, and
I couldn't.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
I couldn't go on the on the trip. And you know,
my wife was pregnant at the time. We want a
trip to Micronesia, and I like, we couldn't go to Hawaii.
I had to be Micronesia. Here here's more advice for you. Okay,
let me give you this when you're when you're soon
to be wife says, where do you want to go
on your honeymoon. Do not leave it up to her
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like I.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
Did with my wife.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
Okay, do not leave it up to her, because I
left it up to my wife. And I don't want
to disparage any place. I'm I'm sure every place is nice,
but we went to the worst place possible.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
Where did you go?
Speaker 3 (02:43):
We went to the worst? I mean it was nice, beautiful,
but there wasn't much to do. We went to the
Canadian Rockies Lake Louise bamff you know that area?
Speaker 2 (02:55):
Sure?
Speaker 3 (02:57):
Sure? What let me tell you something. I said to
my what are we doing today? She goes, well, we're
going to the lake.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
We went to the lake.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
She goes, isn't it beautiful? I go, yeah, it's gorgeous.
She goes, here, drink some of the water. Okay, drink
some of the water. Now what now? What are we
gonna do the other nine days and twenty three hours?
How many how many lakes do you think you're gonna
take me to? And say, look at the water, drink
the water because I'm full. Now, Okay, one lake is
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good for me. I don't have to go to another lake.
I don't have to go up and there's no snow.
It's Lake in September. So where you taking me? You're
taking me to a bunch of lakes to look at
the water and drink the water. What the hell are
you doing? Why did I agree to go on the
Canadian Rockies? Why do we gonna Hawaii or something like that.
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Don't go to the Canadian It's beautiful, but there's nothing
to do.
Speaker 4 (03:52):
You don't have to worry about that. I do not
think that's gonna be on our list.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
And okay, good, yes, no, nothing to do. I mean
you're looking around and then you know you're bored after that.
I'm like, oh, it's the first day. It's the first hour.
We looked at the water. I drank the water. Now
what the hell am I gonna do for the next
nine days?
Speaker 2 (04:15):
Ten days?
Speaker 3 (04:17):
Ten days?
Speaker 2 (04:18):
We took honeymoon. I like how that was just testing
the strength of your marriage.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
Yes exactly. I mean, look, I know there was other
stuff we could do, but that's not the point I'm
thinking about. When we're going out during the day, sure,
and we're checking out the town. The towns are small.
I mean, the best time we had I think we
went to Calgary and then had a good time there.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
But other than that it was.
Speaker 3 (04:38):
I mean, come on, man, it's a snoozefest looking at
the lakes and drinking the water. Go someplace fun, Go
to Hawaii, get yourself some tropical drinks like there. Believe me,
it's the best advice I can give you. Okay, go
someplace you're gonna have fun, you can relax, pool beat
something like that. Don't go to the Canadian Rockies. Now
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I'm gonna get in trouble from what the Chamber of
Commerce or the Canadian.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
Rockies, the Royal Mounties might come get you.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
The Royal the Royal Mounties are gonna be mad at me.
So you know, look again, it's a beautiful place. I'm
not saying it's anything wrong with that, but you know,
like how much water are you gonna drink? Before?
Speaker 5 (05:18):
You know?
Speaker 3 (05:18):
Why don't you go to the Bahamas or something like that.
Speaker 4 (05:21):
You know Jaraca, Well you can't drink the water, but
you can't drink the mata.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
That's my point. That's hround goes. That's my play.
Speaker 3 (05:28):
And you know that you get you get great deals
to Hawaii to there's so many great deals. So any
advice for Martin would be greatly appreciated. When he should
get married, where he should go on his honeymoon? Any advice, Uh,
just send it to ad Martin Weiss or at stinking
Genius one.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
Remember no to.
Speaker 3 (05:47):
The If your wife ever said, Hey, I got a
great place. We're going to the Canadian Rockies. Run okay,
run right? Could you play? Would that be funny? If
that's the place, the one place she gave up with, Hey,
let's go to the Canadian Rocky.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
I'd have to play this four.
Speaker 4 (06:03):
I'd be like, listen, you should hear the other things
about it already says about his fair This is how.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
You want to start it off? Is this a plan?
Speaker 3 (06:11):
Because you've better be drinking a lot of water, that's
for sure. All right that Martin Wise, I've been sticking
Genius one. Matt Verderam joins us at the bottom of
the hour. All right, a couple of things I wanted
to get to. I wanted to start off with this
because I know we want to get into the college
playoffs and the bowl games. Are you paying attention to
these bowl games? I know we had a five overtime game,
we got a game going on tonight, But to be honest,
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I mean, it's just on in the background. It's like
background noise. I'm less interested more and more, especially with
the twelve team playoff. I could care less about all
the other games. It's like saying, the NFL Playoffs are
going on, but the Giants are going to play the
Jets that weekend. Also, like anybody would care. I just
don't know. It just seems the other bowl games would
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become more irrelevant than ever now.
Speaker 6 (06:57):
Martin Well, I think it adds actually less to do
with the college football playoff and more to do with
the transfer portal window being right now, being before people
are playing in their bowl games.
Speaker 3 (07:11):
Right. That's another part too.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
I think that's the biggest part.
Speaker 4 (07:13):
You're looking at teams like Duke Football, for example, had
one of their best years ever. And I know that
doesn't matter to a lot of the people listening, but
it matters to the people who have been fans of Duke.
And you can't tell me that a Duke football fan
wouldn't have been Jazz for ten wins. They know they're
not gonna win a national championship, but they would have
been Jazz for ten wins if they knew that they
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were kind of building something there. But guess what you're
not now you're starting quarterbacks already transferred.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
Now that they're get to transfer quarterback in.
Speaker 4 (07:41):
But again, that was Tulane, another team that nationally you're
not gonna care that much about, but individually, a ton
of people are gonna care, you know what I'm saying.
And like those people who are from New Orleans Tuo
Lane fans, they're gonna care a ton. But now you
don't have your quarterback. So now what, I think that's
the biggest issue because you don't get to see them.
The only real team I feel like that you're gonna
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see play out the whole season that's not in the playoff.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
That's a team of note is Colorado.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
Right right, Well that's because they're ensuring their players in
case any of them got hurt.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
Well, I don't think that's a bad idea at.
Speaker 3 (08:17):
All, No, not at all. It's a very good idea,
absolutely that I agree with you there. I'm just wondering
if we're just going ahead and keeping something alive that
really doesn't need to be alive. Do we really need
these bowl games and nobody's going to them. I promise
you that attendance has got to be low. Maybe they
do well on TV, but sooner or later it will
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go down just because we're putting the NFL all over
the place and these games are so meaningless, nobody really
cares Martin. That's the reason.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
That's I think that's the biggest problem.
Speaker 4 (08:49):
If they address the transl portal window, I think you'll
see more teams caring about these Bowl games, or more
people caring about these Bowl games, just because you get
to see the same people you saw all year, right,
Like imagine you're going Imagine you go see a movie
and in the last thirty minutes of the movie and
it changes to all new actors.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
You'd be like, well, I don't even understand what's going
on here.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
Right right by the way you just a little side
note on this, because we know Nick Saban retired from
coaching because of the whole nil. It was just too
much for him. Did you see Jim Laernega, the head
coach at Miami Basketball, is stepped down right in the
middle of the year, stepping down saying he just can't
deal with it anymore. He just doesn't understand the whole nil.
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They made it to the Final four a couple of
years ago, and he knew there was a problem when
eight of his players said they weren't coming back after
going to the Final four. He's in his seventies. He
just doesn't have it anymore to deal with the nil.
And this is going to force a lot of the
older coaches out.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
Martin.
Speaker 3 (09:50):
I don't know if you think that's a good thing
or a bad thing, but they just can't deal with
the nil.
Speaker 5 (09:55):
I don't.
Speaker 4 (09:55):
I mean, I just think it is what it is
is changing of the game. We've had so many change
in the game in games prior. Like the idea, just hell,
just the idea that Arizona State and boys you said
are about to play for a potential to advance to
a national championship is something that if I had told
you that five years ago, you would have said, you
sound crazy, right, So, like things change all the time.
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I just think, I think what happens either I mean,
you adapt or you die, right, I don't know, you know,
not to be that literal, but either you adapt or
you retire. Like and I have no problem with the
coach hanging it up because they the rules of engagement
have changed.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
But I also think that.
Speaker 4 (10:33):
Coaches are going to like if you're a team that
has perennially been the second, like the little brother in
the state or the little.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
Brother in an area.
Speaker 4 (10:43):
Right, like Michigan State has had a lot of football success,
but not nearly the amount on the national states that
Michigan has. Right, Michigan State, could you if you get
your nil together, you could run the state for a while, right,
you could really compete on some of these higher levels
and pay for some of these guys, because not everybody
can go afford to go Alabama. Rather, I should say
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can't afford to pay everybody to Ohio State, even at
twenty million dollars. Can't afford to pay everybody at this
at this state. In time, you can get your money up,
you can get your team up, you know.
Speaker 3 (11:13):
I want to talk about the games the next round
of the tournament before I do that. Though, I was shocked,
and I know you and I filled in. When did
we fill in? I don't even remember now, Martin last week? Right,
we filled in last week. I don't know what that
Thanks for helping me out.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
I'm I don't know either. It's been a long week
for me. I know, I don't do it a lot.
Speaker 3 (11:32):
We filled in and there was a pushback from the
first round of the college playoff, and people like you see,
you know, sm you didn't belong, Indiana didn't belong. All
four games were a blowout. This is horrible. I'm like, whoa, whoa, whoa, everybody,
you know, relax for a second.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
There.
Speaker 3 (11:53):
It's the first year, right, it's our first year. We're
all straightened it out. We'll get it to where zone
the state doesn't have a buy and boys, he doesn't
have a buye and and we'll fix it up and
we'll get the right things after a year or two.
But people, I didn't expect the backlash about all this,
how the Tennessee fans that we're getting ripped.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
It was.
Speaker 3 (12:14):
It was crazy out there.
Speaker 4 (12:16):
You know, and especially after we said all this time
arguing is about the five teams that should have been
in it should fifth time have been in. Like I
have no sympathy for arguing about the thirteenth best team
in the nation not being able to play for the
national championship. Like what the thirteenth best team in the
NFL just barely gets an opportunity to play, right, depending
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on how it all say shakes out. Then basketball, you know,
the top sixteen, but the top third, there's one hundred
and some college football teams.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
Like I spare me, just spare me.
Speaker 4 (12:49):
And honestly, I think ultimately the biggest problem is those
games were boring. But the other problem is we're gonna
have boring games in the first round of the playoffs
because there's a.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
Reason why one team got the higher seed. Is the
reason why one team got the lower seed.
Speaker 3 (13:02):
They're better, right, Well, well you don't have to, but
you know it doesn't have to be boring.
Speaker 5 (13:06):
It was.
Speaker 3 (13:07):
You know, some of these games are going to be close.
It's not gonna be like this all the time. Plus
we're gonna redo it where Arizona State and Boise State
and schools like that don't get the first round by
and that they have to play in the first round.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
So I also think, aren't he just real quick?
Speaker 4 (13:23):
I think that now more than ever, you're gonna have
like random Arizona States or Boise State or North Carolina
or I know, Indiana's like all these teams failed on
the biggest stage so far this year. Right, But there's
with the transfer portal the way it is, somebody the
right guy is gonna get the right job, and he's
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going to basically swoop in similar to like Deon Sanders did,
and it will be a guy who was a first
year coach, our second year coach.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
Is that like Pa, It could.
Speaker 4 (13:54):
That's what I'm saying. It very well could be. But
that's going to happen as but as as the playing field,
because it's not about any any of the stuff that
used to be about anymore. It's all about the money.
So once you get sick of talking about the prestige
and what, oh, you know, this is what Alabama degree
can do for you. Now once State, once somebody ponies
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up like t Boone Pickens is like a billionaire. Once
he just was like, you know what, I'm gonna put
sixty five million dollars down for Oklahoma State football.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
Now what right? And then and then see what happened.
Like they're gonna win because they can afford. It's like baseball.
Speaker 4 (14:30):
They're gonna win because they have one through nine are
all twenty two players on all Phil.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
Knight is gonna be pro.
Speaker 3 (14:35):
Phil Knight gives a boatload to Oregon. But what you
don't know is he also gives money to Oregon State
two and other schools. I think he gives the Stanford.
He does mix it up a little bit. It's not
just all the Oregon.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
Yeah, but he's that's when he's mostly connected to right.
Speaker 4 (14:49):
But I mean, like that was the thing that I
used to personally as a fan of the University of
Michigan the first few years when the NIL wasn't there.
I'm like, how is it that the university who oh,
the alumni are the people that founded Google and we
can't afford a quarterback.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
And now we can't have ten million dollars?
Speaker 3 (15:08):
What does that do for the other schools though that
can't do that? Though that doesn't have Oracle on their
background or Tom Brady helping you out. What about all
the other schools that can't afford that?
Speaker 4 (15:18):
Uh, they will probably operate similar Like, like I said,
it's like baseball, So there'll be the Pittsburgh Pirates and
like that. That's just the way it's gonna be until
they find some level of well, I think really the
they have to condense a lot of this stuff. If
they want true parody and college football, they have to
condense it to one transfer portal window and put in
an actual salary cap. Right, so the money is similar
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along the play, but it's just way too much work
to try to do. So I think eventually it's gonna
become way more of the haves and the have nots.
Speaker 3 (15:48):
I didn't think it would get this side of control
where you're paying kids just to visit your campus too,
you know, a half a mill a mil, two mil
just to come down and visit. You got to be crazy.
You better be giving me a commitment of if I'm
gonna give you that type of money. I can't do that.
Speaker 2 (16:01):
See. That's the thing though, Arnie.
Speaker 4 (16:03):
When the money that you get paid is not directly
for the service that you're rendering, it all gets messed up.
Like we're not getting paid to like we're getting paid
right now because we're talking on the radio. Like if
you go to Colorado or wherever, wherever you go in
college football, ostensibly you are not getting paid for quote
unquote playing football. So it's like the it's just it
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messes all the there's no real metric. Now, there's no
will well, this guy threw for twenty seven touchdowns, you
threw for twenty three. Like in the NFL, when they
do new contracts, they look at players like Brock Purty
for example, when he sits down for his contract negotiations.
He's gonna look at well, look at what Trevor Lawrence
in his first few years. I did more than that.
I did more than this guy, did more than that guy.
This is why I deserve this much money. Now that
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doesn't exist in college football. Eventually it will if there's
a salary cap. But until then it's just gonna be
the rich get rich.
Speaker 3 (16:54):
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Speaker 3 (18:31):
I was listening to this on my a track on
the way in good evening, Everybody, Martin Weiss, Arnie Span,
you're right here on Fox Sports Radio in for the
Guys Night Jason Smith and his best friend Mike Harmon.
Hope everybody had a great Christmas out there. I want
to get right to our guest joining us now you
can check him out. He's a writer and SI also
has the Matt Verderam Show. You can go ahead and
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check out on Patreon. It's our buddy, Matt Verdram. Matt,
did you have a great Christmas?
Speaker 2 (18:56):
My friend?
Speaker 5 (18:57):
I don't wonder for Christmas? How was yours?
Speaker 3 (18:59):
It was great? And thanks for joining us. We certainly
appreciate it. What about to make it your chief? Seriously,
fifteen to one, I keep saying that to the most
overrated ten and one team, eleven to one team, fifteen
to one team. I just don't know. I'm waiting for
them to trip up, waiting for Buffalo to beat them
in the playoffs or Baltimore. I can't believe they've had
(19:20):
this good of a run and Patrick Mahomes not being
considered for the MVP.
Speaker 5 (19:26):
I mean, how many years have you been waiting for
them to trip up or to lose to the Bills
in the playoffs? By half a decade at this point?
Speaker 3 (19:34):
Pretty much?
Speaker 5 (19:35):
Yeah? I mean, look, I listen an it all seriously, Toney, Like,
I totally understand there is absolutely part of this team.
You look at them this year and you go, okay, look, defensively,
they're really good offensively, it has been inconsistent at best.
That being said, the last two games, all of a sudden,
they look like they should look offensively, and I don't
(19:56):
think it's a coincidenceit in those last two games Hollywood
Brown came back because now all of a sudden, you
put Hopkins in the slot, that's where he belongs. Worthy
Now it's a lot harder to just roll coverage that way.
Worthy in the last two games has had two of
his three biggest games of the year, and the last
last game he had his career high at a catch
of seventy nine yards. Kelsey. Now it's not as easy
(20:18):
to just squat down and drop the safety out of
the box, So I think there's a lot of things
to play with Tooney also sliding out and playing left tackle.
That has solved the massive problem for this team because
they could not block all year long left tackle as
a black hole. I would argue it was the worst
left tackle situation of any contending team in the league.
And so right now, I mean they're the favorite. They
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are going to be home for the playoffs. They're probably
getting Houston or Pittsburgh in the divisional round. If we
want to look a little bit ahead, and if they
win that game, they got to win one big game.
They got to be Baltimore Buffalo at home. And frankly,
I mean, if you're sitting there saying, would you bet
on him? I mean yeah, probably based on their track record,
ye probably would. So.
Speaker 4 (20:58):
Now the Chiefs have like twenty six days or so
just basically without playing meaningful football after locking up the
one seed, how do.
Speaker 2 (21:06):
You expect the Chiefs to approach this.
Speaker 4 (21:09):
Next I mean, damn near month, where you know it's
while still trying to stay sharp.
Speaker 5 (21:16):
I think you're going to see them, you know, Reskys
against Denver. I don't think you're going to see many
meaningful players in that game in Week eight. Team they
just they're not going to take a chance. I get
hurt Andy Reid in the past, and they've had those
those situations. That's what he's kind of leaned into. And
they've had a couple of years like this in the
Mahomes era where they've been the one seed and they
haven't had to play the last week of the year either.
(21:39):
I don't expect to see Mahomes at all, and we
not even for a quarter. So I think that's gonna
be part of this. But I do think, you know,
they'll go pretty light here this week and next week,
and then I think you might see a situation where
maybe that that bye week during the playoffs, where they
in practice, maybe they have you know, some simulated game situations.
Obviously they're hitting them, no tiging thro the ground, stuff
(22:01):
like that, but just I think to keep sharp, they're
gonna they're gonna do a lot of game simulation type things, uh,
to keep them stressing on offense and rhythm. But I
think right now, really it's just about getting healthy, getting
getting right, resting the older bodies on the team. You know,
they're not a bunch of young cuffs in that team
anymore in some spots. So I think that's going to
(22:21):
be the main priority.
Speaker 3 (22:23):
Matt, What what happens first? That will consider this Chiefs
run better than the Patriots run, will consider Mahomes better
than Brady, will consider Andy Reid better than Belichick? Which
one happens first?
Speaker 5 (22:36):
I think I think read I think read wow, because
because because I'm not saying it's right, but I think
the reasoning would be because there's already that whole like, well,
who was it was? It? Brady and a Bellocheck, and
of course Brady winning in Tampa kind of you know,
adshield of that argument, Whereas I think with Andy Reid,
(22:56):
you could say Willie never won in Philly, but he
had a great running Adolph yet, where Belichick never had
a great run without Brady. So I think that's probably
the argument. I will say this, you could just say
the Chiefs being better than New England. From this standpoint,
if the Chiefs win the super Bowl in a month
and a half time, they're the greatest team in full time.
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If they went three Super Bowls in a row, that's
end of the argument. They'll have won three in a row.
They'll have won four out of six, They'll have been
to five Super Bowls in six years and seventh straight
af title, have won nine straight divisions. I mean, I
don't know. If they win the super Bowl this year,
I don't think there's any argument that they're not the
greatest team, at least of the Super Bowl era.
Speaker 2 (23:38):
I agree with that as well.
Speaker 4 (23:40):
But if you had to pick a team from the
AFC that would be likely to spoil this Kansas City party,
which one would it be?
Speaker 2 (23:46):
After?
Speaker 4 (23:46):
You know, we have pretty much almost all the evidence
we're going to see out of the big playoff teams.
Speaker 5 (23:51):
Yeah, you know, I think it would be Buffalo, if
for no other reason because of the style that they play.
I just look, I think they're the hardest for the
Chiefs in the playoffs. I don't think Pittsburgh, Houston Chargers,
in the Broncos. I don't think they've enough offense. I
think all those teams are good enough offensively that maybe
they give them a game. I just I don't think
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they can score enough. So really it's Buffalo of Baltimore
and the Ravens. So here's the funny thing at the ACPL.
At least from my perspective, I actually think the Bills
are a harder matchup for the Chiefs than the Ravens are,
because the Chiefs is just it's handled Walmar's and Darkery
meeting them one time, they just always played well against them. Conversely,
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I think if you're Buffalo, you'd rather play the chief
in the Raids. I actually think the Bills probably having
to see the Ravens in the divisional round is a
problem because I don't think I don't think Buffalo is
going to be Baltimore, even when they plan I think
I think Baltimore is going to line up and run
the ball down Buffalo's throat literally for about two hundred
and thirty yards because the Bill, the Bills do not
come out of nickel. They refuse to come out of
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that look because they want tarn Johnson to be in
there as a nickel linebacker, and it's it's death against Baltimore.
Baltimore will just line up in two tight ends and
run power at them fifty times. So I think Buffalo
is a harder matchup for the Chiefs that I don't
know that they're going to sham.
Speaker 3 (25:13):
Why don't we going to start jumping on Lamark Well,
we already have, but Lamar Jackson's got to get into
the super Bowl sooner or later. We're going to hold
a responsible for those no playoff wins, hardly any playoff
wins here.
Speaker 5 (25:24):
Yeah, listen, it's fair or not, Arnie, you know it,
I know it. It's when you're a quarterback and you're
a great quarterback, wetmore certainly a great quarterback, you are
judged historically not by anything more than how many did
you win? It? Did you win? I mean, Dan Marino,
you could make a great argument the greatest year passer
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in NFL history, and yet when we talk about the
greatest quarterbacks of all time, he does not come up
immediately because he didn't win. And so I think, if
if you're Lamar Jackson, but one super Bowl, he doesn't
even need multiple he win one super Bowl, he's I mean,
you're talking about him as like one of the all
time greats because he'll win bolt MVPs, he'll have won
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a championship. He's obviously an icronic player of this generation.
But if he doesn't win one, and if they go
to the playoffs this year and they lose, let's say
they get to the second round, they losing Buffalow, You're
gonna walk away from the year going, that's great that
Lamar had the year that he had. Who cares, He's
done it, It doesn't matter like that's And by the way,
the same thing is true with Josh Allen. If Josh
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Allen's MVP this year but they lose to Baltimore, they
lose the Kansas City in the playoffs, nobody's gonna care.
Nobody's going back in five years and go, well, you know,
it's a successful year for Josh. I know it's not
he's gonna win Super Bowl and that that right now
for those two guys, That is all this is about.
Speaker 4 (26:44):
Now, do you think there's any added pressure with the
idea that they the Bears, I'm not the Bears?
Speaker 2 (26:51):
Whoops, my bad.
Speaker 4 (26:52):
Josh Allen and the and Lamar Jackson are both kind
of neck and neck right now, depending on between one
and two for MVP the odds. They're both kind of
going back and forth in the conversation. I know, to
your point, Lamar Jackson being one of the all I
think he may be the only guy with multiple MVPs
who's never won a Super Bowl, much less been to
one like that, adding an extra regular season accolade to
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these teams that have been so successful in regular seasons
that add any postseason pressure to them.
Speaker 5 (27:23):
I mean, little, oh little, Look at jacks Olyn's MVP, right,
and you have three MVPs and you haven't gone to
a super Bowl. And let's be honest about this. The
big reason the Raven has knocked on to the Super
Bowls he's been terrible in the playoffs. Yes, I mean
it's not like he's been unbelievable, and they've given up
forty five points a game like he's played his worst
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football in January, and so he will be just that.
Alan is a little bit different in a sense he
has played very good football for the most part in January.
But if you look at his career in the playoffs,
he is mostly in quarterbacks core, very forgettable, Skyler Thompson,
Mac Jones, Mason Rudolph, Like, who cares? Nobody cares that
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you won those games? Man, Like you're zero and four
against Mahomes in Borough. That's and and two of those
things when you're building, they run your racket. Me lost
those games, So I do think those I would argue
that in either conference, there is no two plays. Nobody's
under more pressure than those two guys like Mahomes, there's no
you'd love to repeat and all that, Like the guys
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won three Super Bowl He's a first dollar a fame.
There's no there's no defining pressure on him where there
is with those two.
Speaker 2 (28:34):
Yeah, I love it, Matt.
Speaker 3 (28:35):
It was good to connect again, my friend. You can
check out mad Verte Ram and Si also on his
on his podcast, my friend, enjoy it. Enjoy your Kansas
City Chiefs. Are you going to any games or what?
Speaker 5 (28:47):
Yeah, I'll be there for the division round and uh
maybe even for the championship game, depending on my travel
schedule for the the seeable.
Speaker 3 (28:55):
I love it. I love it, Matt, thanks to buddy.
Will speak to you later on. Hey, take care there
you go, Matt verdem everybody go ahead and check them
out out. Yeah, that's a that's a fun place to
go see a game, Martin, no doubt about that. I'm
sure we'll come back. We'll talk a little bit about
what Matt had to say. First, though, Let's check in
with our buddy, Martin Weiss. Let's see what's trendy, because
we still got a bowl game going on in some
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NBA too.
Speaker 4 (29:16):
I believe we do still have a bowl game going on.
I will do a second to check on the NBA.
Give me one second to get ready. Arkansas stay with
a thirty one to twenty four lead over Bowling Green,
which I've Arnie I partied at several times in undergrad.
Bowling Green drove down from the University of Michigan five
point thirty seven left in the third quarter. There again
thirty one to twenty four to score. In the NBA,
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so we had two games going on right now. The
Sacramento Kings, extending their lead over the Detroit Pistons seventy
nine to sixty four, six twenty one left in the
third quarter.
Speaker 2 (29:48):
With just under three minutes left in the third.
Speaker 4 (29:51):
Quarter, Utah has a seventy nine to sixty eight lead
over the Portland Trail Blazers. In the NFL today, we
have had the a barn burner of a game six
to three. The final score Seahawks improved to nine and seven,
Bears fall to four and twelve. Caleb Williams throws an interception.
It's his first interception and three hundred and ninety four
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pass attempts.
Speaker 2 (30:15):
Wow.
Speaker 4 (30:15):
Yeah, setting the rookie record. So congratulations to Caleb and yet.
Speaker 2 (30:20):
Another loss for them.
Speaker 4 (30:21):
He's lost more games this year than he's lost like
his entire college career, it feels like. But Geno Smith
has seventeen for twenty three hundred and sixty yards through
the air, Zach Sharbin a fifty seven yards on the
ground DJ and more fifty four yards on the ground.
Tough game for scoring touchdowns. There were none scored at
all in the NBA earlier today, the thunderbeat the Pacers
one twenty to one fourteen SGA had forty five points,
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seven rebounds, eight assists. The Heat I have a won eight.
Excuse me, barn Burner against the Magic eighty nine to
eighty eight. Haimi Hokis fifteen and five steals. Wizards off
of Jordan Poole game winning shot beat the Hornets one
thirteen to one ten. He had twenty five and six.
The Hawks beat the Bulls one forty one to one
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thirty three. Dylan Johnson with thirty points fifteen rebounds Grizzlies
won fifty five over the Raptors one twenty six. Jaron
Jackson with a double double points and rebounds, Nets beat
the Bucks one eleven to one oh five, and the
Rockets beat the Pelicans one twenty eight to one eleven.
In college football, I said, we just had that bowl game.
Speaker 2 (31:28):
I just had it ready. Way to go, anyway to.
Speaker 3 (31:29):
Go thirty one to twenty four, Arkansas State thirty one
to twenty four Arkansas State.
Speaker 4 (31:34):
There were two other games today. Toledo beat Pittsburgh forty
eight to forty six in six overtimes. Kansas State beat
Rutgers forty four to forty one. And Arnie I got
a problem with the way they measure in this college
football over time.
Speaker 2 (31:52):
What I really truly do.
Speaker 4 (31:53):
Let's go back to the show now, I up that
is we've updated everything, all right, Yeah, because when they
have this thing, a NY can call timeouts in and
out of like we watched it in the Georgia it
was Georgia Texas game they're calling at the time. Kirby's
calling the time about every single overtime, and the overtime
is one play long, right, it used to be like
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four or five plays long. I just don't like the
fact now that we're sitting here talking about record setting
overtime periods when it's not even real overtime.
Speaker 3 (32:26):
It's not real overtime. And do you get an extra
time out per overtime?
Speaker 2 (32:30):
I don't you get one time out per Oh wow?
Speaker 3 (32:33):
So you keep adding another one every time you get
that exactly.
Speaker 2 (32:36):
So remember Kirby Schmark had just take it.
Speaker 4 (32:38):
They just burn timeouts, take what they call that Kodak
timeout to see what the defense is going to be set.
Speaker 2 (32:43):
Up in and then you run your play.
Speaker 4 (32:45):
I don't know how many people were tuned into the
Game of Love Sports Bowl, but six overtimes too much.
Speaker 2 (32:51):
We don't need that.
Speaker 3 (32:52):
What do you want him to do, though, you want
him to play a full game and just have the
first team to score wins it like they did in
the NFL playoffs. Is that the way you want it
to be done or what?
Speaker 2 (33:00):
Honestly, I liked the old way. I liked that. I
really did like the old way.
Speaker 4 (33:05):
I thought while it did not you know, in almost
every other sport, like the only way.
Speaker 3 (33:10):
It could go longer was you weren't going for two points.
You could just keep kicking the extra.
Speaker 4 (33:14):
Point, right, But it was so it was it was
closer to what football actually is.
Speaker 2 (33:19):
I like football for whatever reason. Like in hockey, when they.
Speaker 4 (33:21):
Do they stop doing, they stop playing and they go
to a shootout, like they decide, we're going to decide
the game differently than the way we were playing this
the entire time, Like they don't do that. In basketball,
the way to decide the game is just to play more. Right,
in the NFL, the way they decide the game is
just to play more. I think that overtime does have
a special feel to it. So I don't love just
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playing more basketball or hockey or whatever. But I think
that just this back and forth ping pong of plays
is never what football was about.
Speaker 2 (33:53):
And that's what I don't like.
Speaker 4 (33:54):
Because it's it's all three. You eliminate special teams from
the whole company.
Speaker 3 (33:59):
Used to be that anyway. They just didn't make you
go for two points early. It was always put it
at the twenty five yard line though.
Speaker 2 (34:05):
But I like that because you're still you got to
get a first down, right.
Speaker 4 (34:09):
It's a truncated version of what actual football is. You
get a couple first downs to score a touchdown, you
stall out, you kick a field goal.
Speaker 2 (34:16):
That's what football is supposed to be.
Speaker 3 (34:18):
Yep, I agree on that part. He's Martin White, some
Arnie Spanier show, just flying by. We're coming up on
half time. We'll come back. I do want to finish
out a few things I wanted to get into the NBA.
Maybe we'll do that next. We got some tweets to
get to also as we get to halftime. Martin and
Arny in for Jason and Mike right here on Fox
Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (34:39):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven
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Speaker 3 (34:46):
Good evening, everybody. Martin wiss Arney Spanier in for the guys. Tonight,
Jason Smith and his best fread Mike Harmon live at
the Tireck dot Com Studios. Lots going on, Martin. Before
we get back to what Matt Verter had to say,
I want to ask you did you see did you
watch the NBA on Christmas?
Speaker 2 (35:03):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (35:03):
Say did you watch any of the games?
Speaker 5 (35:05):
No?
Speaker 2 (35:05):
You would have thought it was Thanksgiving in my house.
Speaker 3 (35:09):
Well, Lebron, I wanted to maybe you saw the highlight
where before the Laker Golden State game, Lebron goes up
to Steph Curry gives him a big old hug like
their long lost brothers. Does the same thing for Draymond Green.
It just seems that he's politicking to go to the
Golden State Warriors. And that's another thing that's wrong with
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the NBA. You're getting ready to play the other team.
Don't act like you're just buddy buddy. Put your game
face on, put your Bill Lambier face on. Get ready
to do a little battle, you know, don't everything's not
always joking around. And let me say a load to
the guys and how you're doing, and you know, were
your vacationing and how many homes did you buy? This month,
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and it's getting ridiculous. I don't remember being this. You know,
how's everybody doing Kumbai your stuff?
Speaker 2 (35:58):
You know.
Speaker 4 (35:59):
I mean I think it's a mix in that it's
a little too. Part of it is there is no
new quote unquote faces of the league in the NBA
right so.
Speaker 3 (36:13):
And the old faces are getting real old, real quick,
that's for sure.
Speaker 4 (36:16):
So like Lebron and Steph, I'm not saying they don't
want to, like have a desire to win, but the
hunger of breaking through is not there in the same
way that it was. So like one of those rivalries
born out of they're born in. Like, hey, ten years ago,
Lebron wasn't running up on step hugging him like that,
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you know.
Speaker 2 (36:38):
When it was a war. Now he is. Now he is.
Speaker 4 (36:40):
But it's because they both kind of look at it like, man,
we're two grizzled veterans in the game. Like, you know,
that's what the NBA does That bother you though, is that?
I mean, I think it's a I just think it's
a ford. I just think it's a It's just something
that's gonna happen. As athletes get older, they're gonna lose
some of their fire. The problem, in my opinion, is
the lack of marketable stars that are coming up from
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the bottom. Like if if, if we didn't have a problem,
for example, with like Tom Brady and Aaron Rodgers looking
a step older because we had Patrick Mahomes in the
in waiting in the wings, right and now the league
didn't take a step back. The NBA right now has
no you know, young exciting guy.
Speaker 3 (37:25):
Even about when Bama.
Speaker 4 (37:27):
Even he is on a team that's terrible, even him
with forty two points, all of all the points rebounds
says they still are gonna be fighting to make the playoffs,
right part of them.
Speaker 3 (37:38):
But when he's not a young starbus he's on, he's
on san Antonio, San Antonio. I mean, look what they
did for Tim Duncan you know, Look look what they've done,
you know for other players, Jenobi and the guys. They
have a Hall of famers out there.
Speaker 2 (37:52):
I'm not saying that.
Speaker 4 (37:53):
Obviously, Victor woman Yama is a really good player and
it's probably just slated to take the league over. But
let me ask you this, Arnie, what's the most interesting
thing you've heard him say?
Speaker 3 (38:05):
Okay, right, he's certainly not controversial if that's what you're asking.
Speaker 4 (38:09):
You know, are even just charismatic, like you know what
I'm saying, Like it doesn't have to be some big
level of controversy like where's the guy who's sitting there?
Like Chris Paul Arsh, Dwayne Wayde's some hiss presidents will
tell jokes, right like where's where is the guy who
is understanding this is about entertainment, right.
Speaker 3 (38:27):
Yeah, but Gianna's doesn't tell jokes. Gianni's plays in a
market that didn't win anything until you know, obviously about
a championship there to Milwaukee. It's not like that's a
big market. But yet he's gonna be a Hall of Famer.
Speaker 4 (38:37):
I'm not saying he's not gonna be a Hall of Famer,
but I'm saying the fact of the matter is, I
think in this country, more than now, more than ever before,
we are locked in on star power. Like look even
just look at the way that the TVs are broadcasting
some of these games. It's all the same faces that like,
star power is what the name of the game is.
And yet Giannis a great basketball player, but these are
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not guys Unfortunately, for whatever reason, cut through the national
noise on a consistent daily basis, right, like remember when
Lonzo Remember when LeVar Ball was out there talking about
Lonzo Ball, right, he was national for whatever reason, that
cut through the noise of national news in a way
we hadn't seen before. You might have you would hear
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about that on an NFL Sunday, like you would hear
when LeVar Ball said, like when things were really popping
off when Lonzo was at UCLA. We don't have that
right now. And I think that, more than anything, is
why the NBA is suffering. The NFL destroyed the NBA.
I know Lebron said, this is our time, it's not
your time.
Speaker 3 (39:39):
Matter of fact, the NBA ratings out as great as
they even put out because all their games were on
ABC and the NFL wasn't up against them at about
seven o'clock Eastern. Plus the NFL had two dog games anyway,
So the ratings are a bit misleading the way the
NBA puts about And I don't think the players are
relatable or as likable as they were in the past.
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I think that's another couple of reasons why the NBA
is going through a tough time now right now, Martin,
I absolutely think so.
Speaker 4 (40:07):
In a league where nobody's wearing helmets, like the faces
are out and aggress plus two. We've had a lot
of guys flop. Zion flopped, Lonzo flopped. No fault to him,
who's just got a lot of injuries. You know, John
Moran went through his type of stuff, like the guys
who will kind of build as up next. None of
them have delivered in that way. The closest is Anthony Edwards.
Speaker 3 (40:28):
I was about to say, what about Anthony Edwards, Right.
Speaker 4 (40:30):
He's the closest, and I think he's got a shot
to be the most entertaining player in the NBA.
Speaker 3 (40:36):
But now Minnesota's had a very good team though, that's
the problem. Yeah, Yeah, he's gonna have to go somewhere
else eventually.
Speaker 2 (40:42):
I'm assuming, yeah, unless.
Speaker 4 (40:44):
I can find a way to build around it. But
like Anthony Edwards in LA, people will talk about that.
Speaker 3 (40:49):
Oh gosh, that'd be absolutely incredible. Oh that'd be unbelievable.
Why two hours are in the books. We're at halftime, people,
This show just a flying on by. We're gonna to
come back. We got a lot of NFL to get to.
We'll touch on that. We'll get to the college football
playoff games. I want to get to that story about
what Sims Phil Simms said about Bill Belichick. I thought
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that was interesting. I want to get to Pete Carroll.
So we got a lot to get to. If you
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thinking Genius one. Congratulations giving advice to Martin. So if
you want to.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
So far Arnie. Most of the advice says don't listen to.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
Arnie, like this one says. Rockabilly says, congrats Martin, you
put a ring on it. Bro. Do not listen to
Arnie though about marital advice, he missed every question on
the new We Would game, and his soon to be
wife look it up on YouTube. But we won, Martin,
That's all that mattered. So you know, we won the
(01:47):
whole game, and I won a trip to Micronesia, but
I never took it. I didn't even get the I
didn't even get the right serni or the turtle wax either.
Speaker 4 (01:58):
Gino Smith like performance and seventy and sixty yards in
a winter yes, yes, exactly, no second half touchdown, and
I couldn't.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
I couldn't go on the on the trip. And you know,
my wife was pregnant at the time. We want a
trip to Micronesia, and I like, we couldn't go to Hawaii.
I had to be Micronesia. Here here's more advice for you. Okay,
let me give you this when you're when you're soon
to be wife says, where do you want to go
on your honeymoon. Do not leave it up to her
(02:27):
like I.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
Did with my wife.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
Okay, do not leave it up to her, because I
left it up to my wife. And I don't want
to disparage any place. I'm I'm sure every place is nice,
but we went to the worst place possible.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
Where did you go?
Speaker 3 (02:43):
We went to the worst? I mean it was nice, beautiful,
but there wasn't much to do. We went to the
Canadian Rockies Lake Louise bamff you know that area?
Speaker 2 (02:55):
Sure?
Speaker 3 (02:57):
Sure? What let me tell you something. I said to
my what are we doing today? She goes, well, we're
going to the lake.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
We went to the lake.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
She goes, isn't it beautiful? I go, yeah, it's gorgeous.
She goes, here, drink some of the water. Okay, drink
some of the water. Now what now? What are we
gonna do the other nine days and twenty three hours?
How many how many lakes do you think you're gonna
take me to? And say, look at the water, drink
the water because I'm full. Now, Okay, one lake is
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good for me. I don't have to go to another lake.
I don't have to go up and there's no snow.
It's Lake in September. So where you taking me? You're
taking me to a bunch of lakes to look at
the water and drink the water. What the hell are
you doing? Why did I agree to go on the
Canadian Rockies? Why do we gonna Hawaii or something like that.
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Don't go to the Canadian It's beautiful, but there's nothing
to do.
Speaker 4 (03:52):
You don't have to worry about that. I do not
think that's gonna be on our list.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
And okay, good, yes, no, nothing to do. I mean
you're looking around and then you know you're bored after that.
I'm like, oh, it's the first day. It's the first hour.
We looked at the water. I drank the water. Now
what the hell am I gonna do for the next
nine days?
Speaker 2 (04:15):
Ten days?
Speaker 3 (04:17):
Ten days?
Speaker 2 (04:18):
We took honeymoon. I like how that was just testing
the strength of your marriage.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
Yes exactly. I mean, look, I know there was other
stuff we could do, but that's not the point I'm
thinking about. When we're going out during the day, sure,
and we're checking out the town. The towns are small.
I mean, the best time we had I think we
went to Calgary and then had a good time there.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
But other than that it was.
Speaker 3 (04:38):
I mean, come on, man, it's a snoozefest looking at
the lakes and drinking the water. Go someplace fun, Go
to Hawaii, get yourself some tropical drinks like there. Believe me,
it's the best advice I can give you. Okay, go
someplace you're gonna have fun, you can relax, pool beat
something like that. Don't go to the Canadian Rockies. Now
(04:59):
I'm gonna get in trouble from what the Chamber of
Commerce or the Canadian.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
Rockies, the Royal Mounties might come get you.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
The Royal the Royal Mounties are gonna be mad at me.
So you know, look again, it's a beautiful place. I'm
not saying it's anything wrong with that, but you know,
like how much water are you gonna drink? Before?
Speaker 5 (05:18):
You know?
Speaker 3 (05:18):
Why don't you go to the Bahamas or something like that.
Speaker 4 (05:21):
You know Jaraca, Well you can't drink the water, but
you can't drink the mata.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
That's my point. That's hround goes. That's my play.
Speaker 3 (05:28):
And you know that you get you get great deals
to Hawaii to there's so many great deals. So any
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Speaker 2 (05:46):
Remember no to.
Speaker 3 (05:47):
The If your wife ever said, Hey, I got a
great place. We're going to the Canadian Rockies. Run okay,
run right? Could you play? Would that be funny? If
that's the place, the one place she gave up with, Hey,
let's go to the Canadian Rocky.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
I'd have to play this four.
Speaker 4 (06:03):
I'd be like, listen, you should hear the other things
about it already says about his fair This is how.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
You want to start it off? Is this a plan?
Speaker 3 (06:11):
Because you've better be drinking a lot of water, that's
for sure. All right that Martin Wise, I've been sticking
Genius one. Matt Verderam joins us at the bottom of
the hour. All right, a couple of things I wanted
to get to. I wanted to start off with this
because I know we want to get into the college
playoffs and the bowl games. Are you paying attention to
these bowl games? I know we had a five overtime game,
we got a game going on tonight, But to be honest,
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I mean, it's just on in the background. It's like
background noise. I'm less interested more and more, especially with
the twelve team playoff. I could care less about all
the other games. It's like saying, the NFL Playoffs are
going on, but the Giants are going to play the
Jets that weekend. Also, like anybody would care. I just
don't know. It just seems the other bowl games would
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become more irrelevant than ever now.
Speaker 6 (06:57):
Martin Well, I think it adds actually less to do
with the college football playoff and more to do with
the transfer portal window being right now, being before people
are playing in their bowl games.
Speaker 3 (07:11):
Right. That's another part too.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
I think that's the biggest part.
Speaker 4 (07:13):
You're looking at teams like Duke Football, for example, had
one of their best years ever. And I know that
doesn't matter to a lot of the people listening, but
it matters to the people who have been fans of Duke.
And you can't tell me that a Duke football fan
wouldn't have been Jazz for ten wins. They know they're
not gonna win a national championship, but they would have
been Jazz for ten wins if they knew that they
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were kind of building something there. But guess what you're
not now you're starting quarterbacks already transferred.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
Now that they're get to transfer quarterback in.
Speaker 4 (07:41):
But again, that was Tulane, another team that nationally you're
not gonna care that much about, but individually, a ton
of people are gonna care, you know what I'm saying.
And like those people who are from New Orleans Tuo
Lane fans, they're gonna care a ton. But now you
don't have your quarterback. So now what, I think that's
the biggest issue because you don't get to see them.
The only real team I feel like that you're gonna
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see play out the whole season that's not in the playoff.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
That's a team of note is Colorado.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
Right right, Well that's because they're ensuring their players in
case any of them got hurt.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
Well, I don't think that's a bad idea at.
Speaker 3 (08:17):
All, No, not at all. It's a very good idea,
absolutely that I agree with you there. I'm just wondering
if we're just going ahead and keeping something alive that
really doesn't need to be alive. Do we really need
these bowl games and nobody's going to them. I promise
you that attendance has got to be low. Maybe they
do well on TV, but sooner or later it will
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go down just because we're putting the NFL all over
the place and these games are so meaningless, nobody really
cares Martin. That's the reason.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
That's I think that's the biggest problem.
Speaker 4 (08:49):
If they address the transl portal window, I think you'll
see more teams caring about these Bowl games, or more
people caring about these Bowl games, just because you get
to see the same people you saw all year, right,
Like imagine you're going Imagine you go see a movie
and in the last thirty minutes of the movie and
it changes to all new actors.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
You'd be like, well, I don't even understand what's going
on here.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
Right right by the way you just a little side
note on this, because we know Nick Saban retired from
coaching because of the whole nil. It was just too
much for him. Did you see Jim Laernega, the head
coach at Miami Basketball, is stepped down right in the
middle of the year, stepping down saying he just can't
deal with it anymore. He just doesn't understand the whole nil.
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They made it to the Final four a couple of
years ago, and he knew there was a problem when
eight of his players said they weren't coming back after
going to the Final four. He's in his seventies. He
just doesn't have it anymore to deal with the nil.
And this is going to force a lot of the
older coaches out.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
Martin.
Speaker 3 (09:50):
I don't know if you think that's a good thing
or a bad thing, but they just can't deal with
the nil.
Speaker 5 (09:55):
I don't.
Speaker 4 (09:55):
I mean, I just think it is what it is
is changing of the game. We've had so many change
in the game in games prior. Like the idea, just hell,
just the idea that Arizona State and boys you said
are about to play for a potential to advance to
a national championship is something that if I had told
you that five years ago, you would have said, you
sound crazy, right, So, like things change all the time.
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I just think, I think what happens either I mean,
you adapt or you die, right, I don't know, you know,
not to be that literal, but either you adapt or
you retire. Like and I have no problem with the
coach hanging it up because they the rules of engagement
have changed.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
But I also think that.
Speaker 4 (10:33):
Coaches are going to like if you're a team that
has perennially been the second, like the little brother in
the state or the little.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
Brother in an area.
Speaker 4 (10:43):
Right, like Michigan State has had a lot of football success,
but not nearly the amount on the national states that
Michigan has. Right, Michigan State, could you if you get
your nil together, you could run the state for a while, right,
you could really compete on some of these higher levels
and pay for some of these guys, because not everybody
can go afford to go Alabama. Rather, I should say
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can't afford to pay everybody to Ohio State, even at
twenty million dollars. Can't afford to pay everybody at this
at this state. In time, you can get your money up,
you can get your team up, you know.
Speaker 3 (11:13):
I want to talk about the games the next round
of the tournament before I do that. Though, I was shocked,
and I know you and I filled in. When did
we fill in? I don't even remember now, Martin last week? Right,
we filled in last week. I don't know what that
Thanks for helping me out.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
I'm I don't know either. It's been a long week
for me. I know, I don't do it a lot.
Speaker 3 (11:32):
We filled in and there was a pushback from the
first round of the college playoff, and people like you see,
you know, sm you didn't belong, Indiana didn't belong. All
four games were a blowout. This is horrible. I'm like, whoa, whoa, whoa, everybody,
you know, relax for a second.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
There.
Speaker 3 (11:53):
It's the first year, right, it's our first year. We're
all straightened it out. We'll get it to where zone
the state doesn't have a buy and boys, he doesn't
have a buye and and we'll fix it up and
we'll get the right things after a year or two.
But people, I didn't expect the backlash about all this,
how the Tennessee fans that we're getting ripped.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
It was.
Speaker 3 (12:14):
It was crazy out there.
Speaker 4 (12:16):
You know, and especially after we said all this time
arguing is about the five teams that should have been
in it should fifth time have been in. Like I
have no sympathy for arguing about the thirteenth best team
in the nation not being able to play for the
national championship. Like what the thirteenth best team in the
NFL just barely gets an opportunity to play, right, depending
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on how it all say shakes out. Then basketball, you know,
the top sixteen, but the top third, there's one hundred
and some college football teams.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
Like I spare me, just spare me.
Speaker 4 (12:49):
And honestly, I think ultimately the biggest problem is those
games were boring. But the other problem is we're gonna
have boring games in the first round of the playoffs
because there's a.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
Reason why one team got the higher seed. Is the
reason why one team got the lower seed.
Speaker 3 (13:02):
They're better, right, Well, well you don't have to, but
you know it doesn't have to be boring.
Speaker 5 (13:06):
It was.
Speaker 3 (13:07):
You know, some of these games are going to be close.
It's not gonna be like this all the time. Plus
we're gonna redo it where Arizona State and Boise State
and schools like that don't get the first round by
and that they have to play in the first round.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
So I also think, aren't he just real quick?
Speaker 4 (13:23):
I think that now more than ever, you're gonna have
like random Arizona States or Boise State or North Carolina
or I know, Indiana's like all these teams failed on
the biggest stage so far this year. Right, But there's
with the transfer portal the way it is, somebody the
right guy is gonna get the right job, and he's
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going to basically swoop in similar to like Deon Sanders did,
and it will be a guy who was a first
year coach, our second year coach.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
Is that like Pa, It could.
Speaker 4 (13:54):
That's what I'm saying. It very well could be. But
that's going to happen as but as as the playing field,
because it's not about any any of the stuff that
used to be about anymore. It's all about the money.
So once you get sick of talking about the prestige
and what, oh, you know, this is what Alabama degree
can do for you. Now once State, once somebody ponies
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up like t Boone Pickens is like a billionaire. Once
he just was like, you know what, I'm gonna put
sixty five million dollars down for Oklahoma State football.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
Now what right? And then and then see what happened.
Like they're gonna win because they can afford. It's like baseball.
Speaker 4 (14:30):
They're gonna win because they have one through nine are
all twenty two players on all Phil.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
Knight is gonna be pro.
Speaker 3 (14:35):
Phil Knight gives a boatload to Oregon. But what you
don't know is he also gives money to Oregon State
two and other schools. I think he gives the Stanford.
He does mix it up a little bit. It's not
just all the Oregon.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
Yeah, but he's that's when he's mostly connected to right.
Speaker 4 (14:49):
But I mean, like that was the thing that I
used to personally as a fan of the University of
Michigan the first few years when the NIL wasn't there.
I'm like, how is it that the university who oh,
the alumni are the people that founded Google and we
can't afford a quarterback.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
And now we can't have ten million dollars?
Speaker 3 (15:08):
What does that do for the other schools though that
can't do that? Though that doesn't have Oracle on their
background or Tom Brady helping you out. What about all
the other schools that can't afford that?
Speaker 4 (15:18):
Uh, they will probably operate similar Like, like I said,
it's like baseball, So there'll be the Pittsburgh Pirates and
like that. That's just the way it's gonna be until
they find some level of well, I think really the
they have to condense a lot of this stuff. If
they want true parody and college football, they have to
condense it to one transfer portal window and put in
an actual salary cap. Right, so the money is similar
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along the play, but it's just way too much work
to try to do. So I think eventually it's gonna
become way more of the haves and the have nots.
Speaker 3 (15:48):
I didn't think it would get this side of control
where you're paying kids just to visit your campus too,
you know, a half a mill a mil, two mil
just to come down and visit. You got to be crazy.
You better be giving me a commitment of if I'm
gonna give you that type of money. I can't do that.
Speaker 2 (16:01):
See. That's the thing though, Arnie.
Speaker 4 (16:03):
When the money that you get paid is not directly
for the service that you're rendering, it all gets messed up.
Like we're not getting paid to like we're getting paid
right now because we're talking on the radio. Like if
you go to Colorado or wherever, wherever you go in
college football, ostensibly you are not getting paid for quote
unquote playing football. So it's like the it's just it
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messes all the there's no real metric. Now, there's no
will well, this guy threw for twenty seven touchdowns, you
threw for twenty three. Like in the NFL, when they
do new contracts, they look at players like Brock Purty
for example, when he sits down for his contract negotiations.
He's gonna look at well, look at what Trevor Lawrence
in his first few years. I did more than that.
I did more than this guy, did more than that guy.
This is why I deserve this much money. Now that
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doesn't exist in college football. Eventually it will if there's
a salary cap. But until then it's just gonna be
the rich get rich.
Speaker 3 (16:54):
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Speaker 3 (18:31):
I was listening to this on my a track on
the way in good evening, Everybody, Martin Weiss, Arnie Span,
you're right here on Fox Sports Radio in for the
Guys Night Jason Smith and his best friend Mike Harmon.
Hope everybody had a great Christmas out there. I want
to get right to our guest joining us now you
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has the Matt Verderam Show. You can go ahead and
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check out on Patreon. It's our buddy, Matt Verdram. Matt,
did you have a great Christmas?
Speaker 2 (18:56):
My friend?
Speaker 5 (18:57):
I don't wonder for Christmas? How was yours?
Speaker 3 (18:59):
It was great? And thanks for joining us. We certainly
appreciate it. What about to make it your chief? Seriously,
fifteen to one, I keep saying that to the most
overrated ten and one team, eleven to one team, fifteen
to one team. I just don't know. I'm waiting for
them to trip up, waiting for Buffalo to beat them
in the playoffs or Baltimore. I can't believe they've had
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this good of a run and Patrick Mahomes not being
considered for the MVP.
Speaker 5 (19:26):
I mean, how many years have you been waiting for
them to trip up or to lose to the Bills
in the playoffs? By half a decade at this point?
Speaker 3 (19:34):
Pretty much?
Speaker 5 (19:35):
Yeah? I mean, look, I listen an it all seriously, Toney, Like,
I totally understand there is absolutely part of this team.
You look at them this year and you go, okay, look, defensively,
they're really good offensively, it has been inconsistent at best.
That being said, the last two games, all of a sudden,
they look like they should look offensively, and I don't
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think it's a coincidenceit in those last two games Hollywood
Brown came back because now all of a sudden, you
put Hopkins in the slot, that's where he belongs. Worthy
Now it's a lot harder to just roll coverage that way.
Worthy in the last two games has had two of
his three biggest games of the year, and the last
last game he had his career high at a catch
of seventy nine yards. Kelsey. Now it's not as easy
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to just squat down and drop the safety out of
the box, So I think there's a lot of things
to play with Tooney also sliding out and playing left tackle.
That has solved the massive problem for this team because
they could not block all year long left tackle as
a black hole. I would argue it was the worst
left tackle situation of any contending team in the league.
And so right now, I mean they're the favorite. They
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are going to be home for the playoffs. They're probably
getting Houston or Pittsburgh in the divisional round. If we
want to look a little bit ahead, and if they
win that game, they got to win one big game.
They got to be Baltimore Buffalo at home. And frankly,
I mean, if you're sitting there saying, would you bet
on him? I mean yeah, probably based on their track record,
ye probably would. So.
Speaker 4 (20:58):
Now the Chiefs have like twenty six days or so
just basically without playing meaningful football after locking up the
one seed, how do.
Speaker 2 (21:06):
You expect the Chiefs to approach this.
Speaker 4 (21:09):
Next I mean, damn near month, where you know it's
while still trying to stay sharp.
Speaker 5 (21:16):
I think you're going to see them, you know, Reskys
against Denver. I don't think you're going to see many
meaningful players in that game in Week eight. Team they
just they're not going to take a chance. I get
hurt Andy Reid in the past, and they've had those
those situations. That's what he's kind of leaned into. And
they've had a couple of years like this in the
Mahomes era where they've been the one seed and they
haven't had to play the last week of the year either.
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I don't expect to see Mahomes at all, and we
not even for a quarter. So I think that's gonna
be part of this. But I do think, you know,
they'll go pretty light here this week and next week,
and then I think you might see a situation where
maybe that that bye week during the playoffs, where they
in practice, maybe they have you know, some simulated game situations.
Obviously they're hitting them, no tiging thro the ground, stuff
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like that, but just I think to keep sharp, they're
gonna they're gonna do a lot of game simulation type things, uh,
to keep them stressing on offense and rhythm. But I
think right now, really it's just about getting healthy, getting
getting right, resting the older bodies on the team. You know,
they're not a bunch of young cuffs in that team
anymore in some spots. So I think that's going to
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be the main priority.
Speaker 3 (22:23):
Matt, What what happens first? That will consider this Chiefs
run better than the Patriots run, will consider Mahomes better
than Brady, will consider Andy Reid better than Belichick? Which
one happens first?
Speaker 5 (22:36):
I think I think read I think read wow, because
because because I'm not saying it's right, but I think
the reasoning would be because there's already that whole like, well,
who was it was? It? Brady and a Bellocheck, and
of course Brady winning in Tampa kind of you know,
adshield of that argument, Whereas I think with Andy Reid,
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you could say Willie never won in Philly, but he
had a great running Adolph yet, where Belichick never had
a great run without Brady. So I think that's probably
the argument. I will say this, you could just say
the Chiefs being better than New England. From this standpoint,
if the Chiefs win the super Bowl in a month
and a half time, they're the greatest team in full time.
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If they went three Super Bowls in a row, that's
end of the argument. They'll have won three in a row.
They'll have won four out of six, They'll have been
to five Super Bowls in six years and seventh straight
af title, have won nine straight divisions. I mean, I
don't know. If they win the super Bowl this year,
I don't think there's any argument that they're not the
greatest team, at least of the Super Bowl era.
Speaker 2 (23:38):
I agree with that as well.
Speaker 4 (23:40):
But if you had to pick a team from the
AFC that would be likely to spoil this Kansas City party,
which one would it be?
Speaker 2 (23:46):
After?
Speaker 4 (23:46):
You know, we have pretty much almost all the evidence
we're going to see out of the big playoff teams.
Speaker 5 (23:51):
Yeah, you know, I think it would be Buffalo, if
for no other reason because of the style that they play.
I just look, I think they're the hardest for the
Chiefs in the playoffs. I don't think Pittsburgh, Houston Chargers,
in the Broncos. I don't think they've enough offense. I
think all those teams are good enough offensively that maybe
they give them a game. I just I don't think
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they can score enough. So really it's Buffalo of Baltimore
and the Ravens. So here's the funny thing at the ACPL.
At least from my perspective, I actually think the Bills
are a harder matchup for the Chiefs than the Ravens are,
because the Chiefs is just it's handled Walmar's and Darkery
meeting them one time, they just always played well against them. Conversely,
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I think if you're Buffalo, you'd rather play the chief
in the Raids. I actually think the Bills probably having
to see the Ravens in the divisional round is a
problem because I don't think I don't think Buffalo is
going to be Baltimore, even when they plan I think
I think Baltimore is going to line up and run
the ball down Buffalo's throat literally for about two hundred
and thirty yards because the Bill, the Bills do not
come out of nickel. They refuse to come out of
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that look because they want tarn Johnson to be in
there as a nickel linebacker, and it's it's death against Baltimore.
Baltimore will just line up in two tight ends and
run power at them fifty times. So I think Buffalo
is a harder matchup for the Chiefs that I don't
know that they're going to sham.
Speaker 3 (25:13):
Why don't we going to start jumping on Lamark Well,
we already have, but Lamar Jackson's got to get into
the super Bowl sooner or later. We're going to hold
a responsible for those no playoff wins, hardly any playoff
wins here.
Speaker 5 (25:24):
Yeah, listen, it's fair or not, Arnie, you know it,
I know it. It's when you're a quarterback and you're
a great quarterback, wetmore certainly a great quarterback, you are
judged historically not by anything more than how many did
you win? It? Did you win? I mean, Dan Marino,
you could make a great argument the greatest year passer
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in NFL history, and yet when we talk about the
greatest quarterbacks of all time, he does not come up
immediately because he didn't win. And so I think, if
if you're Lamar Jackson, but one super Bowl, he doesn't
even need multiple he win one super Bowl, he's I mean,
you're talking about him as like one of the all
time greats because he'll win bolt MVPs, he'll have won
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a championship. He's obviously an icronic player of this generation.
But if he doesn't win one, and if they go
to the playoffs this year and they lose, let's say
they get to the second round, they losing Buffalow, You're
gonna walk away from the year going, that's great that
Lamar had the year that he had. Who cares, He's
done it, It doesn't matter like that's And by the way,
the same thing is true with Josh Allen. If Josh
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Allen's MVP this year but they lose to Baltimore, they
lose the Kansas City in the playoffs, nobody's gonna care.
Nobody's going back in five years and go, well, you know,
it's a successful year for Josh. I know it's not
he's gonna win Super Bowl and that that right now
for those two guys, That is all this is about.
Speaker 4 (26:44):
Now, do you think there's any added pressure with the
idea that they the Bears, I'm not the Bears?
Speaker 2 (26:51):
Whoops, my bad.
Speaker 4 (26:52):
Josh Allen and the and Lamar Jackson are both kind
of neck and neck right now, depending on between one
and two for MVP the odds. They're both kind of
going back and forth in the conversation. I know, to
your point, Lamar Jackson being one of the all I
think he may be the only guy with multiple MVPs
who's never won a Super Bowl, much less been to
one like that, adding an extra regular season accolade to
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these teams that have been so successful in regular seasons
that add any postseason pressure to them.
Speaker 5 (27:23):
I mean, little, oh little, Look at jacks Olyn's MVP, right,
and you have three MVPs and you haven't gone to
a super Bowl. And let's be honest about this. The
big reason the Raven has knocked on to the Super
Bowls he's been terrible in the playoffs. Yes, I mean
it's not like he's been unbelievable, and they've given up
forty five points a game like he's played his worst
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football in January, and so he will be just that.
Alan is a little bit different in a sense he
has played very good football for the most part in January.
But if you look at his career in the playoffs,
he is mostly in quarterbacks core, very forgettable, Skyler Thompson,
Mac Jones, Mason Rudolph, Like, who cares? Nobody cares that
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you won those games? Man, Like you're zero and four
against Mahomes in Borough. That's and and two of those
things when you're building, they run your racket. Me lost
those games, So I do think those I would argue
that in either conference, there is no two plays. Nobody's
under more pressure than those two guys like Mahomes, there's no
you'd love to repeat and all that, Like the guys
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won three Super Bowl He's a first dollar a fame.
There's no there's no defining pressure on him where there
is with those two.
Speaker 2 (28:34):
Yeah, I love it, Matt.
Speaker 3 (28:35):
It was good to connect again, my friend. You can
check out mad Verte Ram and Si also on his
on his podcast, my friend, enjoy it. Enjoy your Kansas
City Chiefs. Are you going to any games or what?
Speaker 5 (28:47):
Yeah, I'll be there for the division round and uh
maybe even for the championship game, depending on my travel
schedule for the the seeable.
Speaker 3 (28:55):
I love it. I love it, Matt, thanks to buddy.
Will speak to you later on. Hey, take care there
you go, Matt verdem everybody go ahead and check them
out out. Yeah, that's a that's a fun place to
go see a game, Martin, no doubt about that. I'm
sure we'll come back. We'll talk a little bit about
what Matt had to say. First, though, Let's check in
with our buddy, Martin Weiss. Let's see what's trendy, because
we still got a bowl game going on in some
(29:15):
NBA too.
Speaker 4 (29:16):
I believe we do still have a bowl game going on.
I will do a second to check on the NBA.
Give me one second to get ready. Arkansas stay with
a thirty one to twenty four lead over Bowling Green,
which I've Arnie I partied at several times in undergrad.
Bowling Green drove down from the University of Michigan five
point thirty seven left in the third quarter. There again
thirty one to twenty four to score. In the NBA,
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so we had two games going on right now. The
Sacramento Kings, extending their lead over the Detroit Pistons seventy
nine to sixty four, six twenty one left in the
third quarter.
Speaker 2 (29:48):
With just under three minutes left in the third.
Speaker 4 (29:51):
Quarter, Utah has a seventy nine to sixty eight lead
over the Portland Trail Blazers. In the NFL today, we
have had the a barn burner of a game six
to three. The final score Seahawks improved to nine and seven,
Bears fall to four and twelve. Caleb Williams throws an interception.
It's his first interception and three hundred and ninety four
(30:14):
pass attempts.
Speaker 2 (30:15):
Wow.
Speaker 4 (30:15):
Yeah, setting the rookie record. So congratulations to Caleb and yet.
Speaker 2 (30:20):
Another loss for them.
Speaker 4 (30:21):
He's lost more games this year than he's lost like
his entire college career, it feels like. But Geno Smith
has seventeen for twenty three hundred and sixty yards through
the air, Zach Sharbin a fifty seven yards on the
ground DJ and more fifty four yards on the ground.
Tough game for scoring touchdowns. There were none scored at
all in the NBA earlier today, the thunderbeat the Pacers
one twenty to one fourteen SGA had forty five points,
(30:45):
seven rebounds, eight assists. The Heat I have a won eight.
Excuse me, barn Burner against the Magic eighty nine to
eighty eight. Haimi Hokis fifteen and five steals. Wizards off
of Jordan Poole game winning shot beat the Hornets one
thirteen to one ten. He had twenty five and six.
The Hawks beat the Bulls one forty one to one
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thirty three. Dylan Johnson with thirty points fifteen rebounds Grizzlies
won fifty five over the Raptors one twenty six. Jaron
Jackson with a double double points and rebounds, Nets beat
the Bucks one eleven to one oh five, and the
Rockets beat the Pelicans one twenty eight to one eleven.
In college football, I said, we just had that bowl game.
Speaker 2 (31:28):
I just had it ready. Way to go, anyway to.
Speaker 3 (31:29):
Go thirty one to twenty four, Arkansas State thirty one
to twenty four Arkansas State.
Speaker 4 (31:34):
There were two other games today. Toledo beat Pittsburgh forty
eight to forty six in six overtimes. Kansas State beat
Rutgers forty four to forty one. And Arnie I got
a problem with the way they measure in this college
football over time.
Speaker 2 (31:52):
What I really truly do.
Speaker 4 (31:53):
Let's go back to the show now, I up that
is we've updated everything, all right, Yeah, because when they
have this thing, a NY can call timeouts in and
out of like we watched it in the Georgia it
was Georgia Texas game they're calling at the time. Kirby's
calling the time about every single overtime, and the overtime
is one play long, right, it used to be like
(32:14):
four or five plays long. I just don't like the
fact now that we're sitting here talking about record setting
overtime periods when it's not even real overtime.
Speaker 3 (32:26):
It's not real overtime. And do you get an extra
time out per overtime?
Speaker 2 (32:30):
I don't you get one time out per Oh wow?
Speaker 3 (32:33):
So you keep adding another one every time you get
that exactly.
Speaker 2 (32:36):
So remember Kirby Schmark had just take it.
Speaker 4 (32:38):
They just burn timeouts, take what they call that Kodak
timeout to see what the defense is going to be set.
Speaker 2 (32:43):
Up in and then you run your play.
Speaker 4 (32:45):
I don't know how many people were tuned into the
Game of Love Sports Bowl, but six overtimes too much.
Speaker 2 (32:51):
We don't need that.
Speaker 3 (32:52):
What do you want him to do, though, you want
him to play a full game and just have the
first team to score wins it like they did in
the NFL playoffs. Is that the way you want it
to be done or what?
Speaker 2 (33:00):
Honestly, I liked the old way. I liked that. I
really did like the old way.
Speaker 4 (33:05):
I thought while it did not you know, in almost
every other sport, like the only way.
Speaker 3 (33:10):
It could go longer was you weren't going for two points.
You could just keep kicking the extra.
Speaker 4 (33:14):
Point, right, But it was so it was it was
closer to what football actually is.
Speaker 2 (33:19):
I like football for whatever reason. Like in hockey, when they.
Speaker 4 (33:21):
Do they stop doing, they stop playing and they go
to a shootout, like they decide, we're going to decide
the game differently than the way we were playing this
the entire time, Like they don't do that. In basketball,
the way to decide the game is just to play more. Right,
in the NFL, the way they decide the game is
just to play more. I think that overtime does have
a special feel to it. So I don't love just
(33:42):
playing more basketball or hockey or whatever. But I think
that just this back and forth ping pong of plays
is never what football was about.
Speaker 2 (33:53):
And that's what I don't like.
Speaker 4 (33:54):
Because it's it's all three. You eliminate special teams from
the whole company.
Speaker 3 (33:59):
Used to be that anyway. They just didn't make you
go for two points early. It was always put it
at the twenty five yard line though.
Speaker 2 (34:05):
But I like that because you're still you got to
get a first down, right.
Speaker 4 (34:09):
It's a truncated version of what actual football is. You
get a couple first downs to score a touchdown, you
stall out, you kick a field goal.
Speaker 2 (34:16):
That's what football is supposed to be.
Speaker 3 (34:18):
Yep, I agree on that part. He's Martin White, some
Arnie Spanier show, just flying by. We're coming up on
half time. We'll come back. I do want to finish
out a few things I wanted to get into the NBA.
Maybe we'll do that next. We got some tweets to
get to also as we get to halftime. Martin and
Arny in for Jason and Mike right here on Fox
Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (34:39):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven
pm Pacific.
Speaker 3 (34:46):
Good evening, everybody. Martin wiss Arney Spanier in for the guys. Tonight,
Jason Smith and his best fread Mike Harmon live at
the Tireck dot Com Studios. Lots going on, Martin. Before
we get back to what Matt Verter had to say,
I want to ask you did you see did you
watch the NBA on Christmas?
Speaker 2 (35:03):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (35:03):
Say did you watch any of the games?
Speaker 5 (35:05):
No?
Speaker 2 (35:05):
You would have thought it was Thanksgiving in my house.
Speaker 3 (35:09):
Well, Lebron, I wanted to maybe you saw the highlight
where before the Laker Golden State game, Lebron goes up
to Steph Curry gives him a big old hug like
their long lost brothers. Does the same thing for Draymond Green.
It just seems that he's politicking to go to the
Golden State Warriors. And that's another thing that's wrong with
(35:29):
the NBA. You're getting ready to play the other team.
Don't act like you're just buddy buddy. Put your game
face on, put your Bill Lambier face on. Get ready
to do a little battle, you know, don't everything's not
always joking around. And let me say a load to
the guys and how you're doing, and you know, were
your vacationing and how many homes did you buy? This month,
(35:51):
and it's getting ridiculous. I don't remember being this. You know,
how's everybody doing Kumbai your stuff?
Speaker 2 (35:58):
You know.
Speaker 4 (35:59):
I mean I think it's a mix in that it's
a little too. Part of it is there is no
new quote unquote faces of the league in the NBA
right so.
Speaker 3 (36:13):
And the old faces are getting real old, real quick,
that's for sure.
Speaker 4 (36:16):
So like Lebron and Steph, I'm not saying they don't
want to, like have a desire to win, but the
hunger of breaking through is not there in the same
way that it was. So like one of those rivalries
born out of they're born in. Like, hey, ten years ago,
Lebron wasn't running up on step hugging him like that,
(36:38):
you know.
Speaker 2 (36:38):
When it was a war. Now he is. Now he is.
Speaker 4 (36:40):
But it's because they both kind of look at it like, man,
we're two grizzled veterans in the game. Like, you know,
that's what the NBA does That bother you though, is that?
I mean, I think it's a I just think it's
a ford. I just think it's a It's just something
that's gonna happen. As athletes get older, they're gonna lose
some of their fire. The problem, in my opinion, is
the lack of marketable stars that are coming up from
(37:03):
the bottom. Like if if, if we didn't have a problem,
for example, with like Tom Brady and Aaron Rodgers looking
a step older because we had Patrick Mahomes in the
in waiting in the wings, right and now the league
didn't take a step back. The NBA right now has
no you know, young exciting guy.
Speaker 3 (37:25):
Even about when Bama.
Speaker 4 (37:27):
Even he is on a team that's terrible, even him
with forty two points, all of all the points rebounds
says they still are gonna be fighting to make the playoffs,
right part of them.
Speaker 3 (37:38):
But when he's not a young starbus he's on, he's
on san Antonio, San Antonio. I mean, look what they
did for Tim Duncan you know, Look look what they've done,
you know for other players, Jenobi and the guys. They
have a Hall of famers out there.
Speaker 2 (37:52):
I'm not saying that.
Speaker 4 (37:53):
Obviously, Victor woman Yama is a really good player and
it's probably just slated to take the league over. But
let me ask you this, Arnie, what's the most interesting
thing you've heard him say?
Speaker 3 (38:05):
Okay, right, he's certainly not controversial if that's what you're asking.
Speaker 4 (38:09):
You know, are even just charismatic, like you know what
I'm saying, Like it doesn't have to be some big
level of controversy like where's the guy who's sitting there?
Like Chris Paul Arsh, Dwayne Wayde's some hiss presidents will
tell jokes, right like where's where is the guy who
is understanding this is about entertainment, right.
Speaker 3 (38:27):
Yeah, but Gianna's doesn't tell jokes. Gianni's plays in a
market that didn't win anything until you know, obviously about
a championship there to Milwaukee. It's not like that's a
big market. But yet he's gonna be a Hall of Famer.
Speaker 4 (38:37):
I'm not saying he's not gonna be a Hall of Famer,
but I'm saying the fact of the matter is, I
think in this country, more than now, more than ever before,
we are locked in on star power. Like look even
just look at the way that the TVs are broadcasting
some of these games. It's all the same faces that like,
star power is what the name of the game is.
And yet Giannis a great basketball player, but these are
(39:00):
not guys Unfortunately, for whatever reason, cut through the national
noise on a consistent daily basis, right, like remember when
Lonzo Remember when LeVar Ball was out there talking about
Lonzo Ball, right, he was national for whatever reason, that
cut through the noise of national news in a way
we hadn't seen before. You might have you would hear
(39:20):
about that on an NFL Sunday, like you would hear
when LeVar Ball said, like when things were really popping
off when Lonzo was at UCLA. We don't have that
right now. And I think that, more than anything, is
why the NBA is suffering. The NFL destroyed the NBA.
I know Lebron said, this is our time, it's not
your time.
Speaker 3 (39:39):
Matter of fact, the NBA ratings out as great as
they even put out because all their games were on
ABC and the NFL wasn't up against them at about
seven o'clock Eastern. Plus the NFL had two dog games anyway,
So the ratings are a bit misleading the way the
NBA puts about And I don't think the players are
relatable or as likable as they were in the past.
(40:01):
I think that's another couple of reasons why the NBA
is going through a tough time now right now, Martin,
I absolutely think so.
Speaker 4 (40:07):
In a league where nobody's wearing helmets, like the faces
are out and aggress plus two. We've had a lot
of guys flop. Zion flopped, Lonzo flopped. No fault to him,
who's just got a lot of injuries. You know, John
Moran went through his type of stuff, like the guys
who will kind of build as up next. None of
them have delivered in that way. The closest is Anthony Edwards.
Speaker 3 (40:28):
I was about to say, what about Anthony Edwards, Right.
Speaker 4 (40:30):
He's the closest, and I think he's got a shot
to be the most entertaining player in the NBA.
Speaker 3 (40:36):
But now Minnesota's had a very good team though, that's
the problem. Yeah, Yeah, he's gonna have to go somewhere
else eventually.
Speaker 2 (40:42):
I'm assuming, yeah, unless.
Speaker 4 (40:44):
I can find a way to build around it. But
like Anthony Edwards in LA, people will talk about that.
Speaker 3 (40:49):
Oh gosh, that'd be absolutely incredible. Oh that'd be unbelievable.
Why two hours are in the books. We're at halftime, people,
This show just a flying on by. We're gonna to
come back. We got a lot of NFL to get to.
We'll touch on that. We'll get to the college football
playoff games. I want to get to that story about
what Sims Phil Simms said about Bill Belichick. I thought
(41:12):
that was interesting. I want to get to Pete Carroll.
So we got a lot to get to. If you
want to jump in Ad Martin Wise, I'm instincting genius one.
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