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in final hour of the program here on the thirtieth
of December, creeping towards New Year's Day, creeping towards those
college football playoff games.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
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you have what many considered to be three of the
greatest participants in their respective sports, all born on this day,
December thirtieth, obviously a few years apart. And if you
know Lebron was a year older, it would help this
whole thing anyway. Sandy Kofeks eighty nine years old today,
all right, or he was a year older, I guess maybe, yeah,
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And then we've got Tiger Woods forty nine, so nice
forty year difference. And now we've got Lebron James turning
forty today. So I'm just trying to make it round
because then we can try maybe do it by decades,
like from Tiger to Lebron to whoever the next would be.
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But I looked at December thirtieth birthdays. We got Lei
La Leie, Tyrese Gibson, the actor, Eliza Duke Show, the actress,
the late Davy Jones from The Monks's Sean Hannity, and
Carson Wentz. Carson went but he's thirty two, so it's
not on a decade thing gonna play though.
Speaker 4 (02:28):
Yeah, most likely one of these things is not like
the other.
Speaker 5 (02:31):
No offense, Carson wentz, I'm sorry, but you can't mess
with the greatness of That's the thing of I was
trying to think to myself because I obviously, being a
golf fan, Mike wi't lean towards Tiger, but I was.
I was thinking, like, Tigers still more popular than Lebron
right worldwide, and then nah, he's not. I think Tiger
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accomplished greater things, but I don't think it's more popular.
Speaker 3 (03:00):
I will say I did love the run, that the reaction,
the hugs he and his ex wife, but certainly he
and his son. After the hole in one, I want
to talk about a real motion moment that just popped
on a screen, like an absolute explosive moment of dad.
And then he made fun of him by saying I
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didn't that when I was like six, But I mean
one of the cool moments. Because you're dealing with injuries
at the top of the board, yes, on the PGA Tour,
so you know, little Tiger woods injected back into the
end of your blood is not a bad thing.
Speaker 5 (03:36):
Never never hurts, and a year away from the PGA
Tour champions which is interesting because Tiger had said in
the prime of his career, I would expect any athlete,
especially in golf, when you're talking about a senior circuit,
if you would you you aren't thinking of that. In fact,
when you're on the top of your game, you're dominating
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throughout the world, you're thinking, well, I'm going to do
this for the next twenty years than even when I'm fifty,
I'm gonna be trying to win and dominating on this tour.
And I think Tiger will still do that, but I
do think that his mind will change about actually playing
some PGA Tour Champions events, And especially for a guy
who's only gonna be playing he really only wants to
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play majors the rest of his career. But you're not
gonna win or compete in any majors if you're only
playing four tournaments a year. So he does have to
play another events. And I'm wondering when he gets in
the fifties, which is next year, do you use some
of those champions events which are only three rounds to
kind of get yourself into playing, you know, competitive nature,
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but not having to do all of the responsibilities of
a PGA Tour playing the four rounds and doing what
you're doing. It's curious. I don't think it's now. I
think it's a much more realistic option for him. Not
that he's going to make his living in that tour,
but there was a time and place where he said
he never would have thought and we never thought either.
We thought that he'd be competing at fifty in fifty five.
But the injuries and everything that's happened to him is
(05:02):
kind of taken over. I just wonder if that's part
of his future, at least something he can't.
Speaker 3 (05:07):
Take the game out of him. No, clearly he's battled
through a lot. He could have walked away a long
long time ago and nobody would have falled him. Sure, Duran,
the car accident, the surgery's recovery from that, like all
of those different things. If he walked away, nobody would
have thought differently about him. Yeah, Hey, it was a
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hell of a run while we had it. But he
keeps trying to fight, which says he ain't done.
Speaker 5 (05:33):
You know, the unique thing about Tiger is when he
broke his leg and you know, had the torn ligaments
at his knee in two thousand and eight, I think
some people blend in the you know, the scandal with that,
But Tiger was able to come back from that injury
and play then the next year in two thousand and nine,
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and then it was in the fall of two thousand
and nine that that scandal ended up hitting and he
ended up playing again in twenty ten. But then you
have the host of other injuries. Then you had the
car accident to it, you know, three years ago, whatever
it was. Yeah, it's just it's yeah, all the injuries
and stuff adds up.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
Tell you what, that stretcher road is no joke. I
drove and drove it many many times to and from
soccer practices and workouts with my kid. Gets that a
little bit too too fast, no matter what, given in
perfect conditions.
Speaker 5 (06:23):
I mean, I'm going to be forty eight next month,
so I feel like I'm not in this same shape
Figer obviously, which I was.
Speaker 4 (06:30):
But I mean there's the there's.
Speaker 5 (06:32):
The oh I pulled, I pulled the muscle in my
back reaching for the you know, bottle of soda.
Speaker 4 (06:39):
Yeah, you know, like that sort of thing.
Speaker 5 (06:42):
For him to deal with all of his stuff and
then still have that stuff to deal with, Yeah, it's tough.
Speaker 3 (06:46):
Yeah, watch me recoil. Anytime there's any kind of resistance
with my left shoulder. I hold the scream in, but
the tears are real. Hey, Lebron James turning forty, So
that means our guy, Dan White, the La Times frequent
guest of the program, Friend of the Show, was part
of the media throng in front of Lebron's locker. They
(07:08):
made a big trade yesterday, D'Angelo Russell gets dealt. They
bring in Dorian Finney Smith. Those are the principles. Some trade,
some draft picks and everything else. Uh, the usual accoutrements mixed.
They're in. But for Lebron James, you know, it's always
the question about father time. Here was his response to
Dan's question, how was you at tonight?
Speaker 6 (07:30):
It won't be because I can't play the game at
a high level because of that, Because, to be honest,
if I really wanted to, probably played this game at
a high level. Talk about another weird that I might say,
how about another five ex seven years? About one? But
I'm not gonna do that. You walk away and with it?
Speaker 2 (07:53):
Of course I know he.
Speaker 5 (07:58):
Did it.
Speaker 4 (07:58):
Oh I come back?
Speaker 6 (07:59):
Oh no, I'm like.
Speaker 4 (08:02):
And I will miss the hell out it.
Speaker 6 (08:03):
For sure, but no, I won't walk away when it
come back.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
No, all right, should have never come back. Twenty eight
games played this year, averaging thirty five minutes a night,
twenty three point five points, shooting about fifty percent from
the field, eight rebounds, nine assists, filling the stat sheet,
and playing many a heavy minute. Which that's the larger
part of the program. Right. It goes back to you
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and I all our lives. Growing up, you'd watch wide
receivers where the ego would not allow them to say,
you know what, you can still be a good possession guy.
You can go be that number two guy. May can
go work out of the slot a little bit and
still catch the balls. You won't be the number one target,
not gonna be the go to, but you're gonna pile
up some receptions. They're just not gonna be glory receptions anymore.
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How many of those guys have been willing to do it?
Speaker 5 (08:51):
Phew yes and kwam Bolden, Yeah, yeah, there's one.
Speaker 3 (08:57):
The greatest box out, power forward like player on a
football field ever. But it's few same thing with Lebron.
It's the all right, are you okay with the id?
Because you could go probably dominate twenty twenty two to
twenty four minutes a night and play another couple of years.
But the thirty five minutes a night, I don't know
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how long that lasts, because we've even watched it several
times this year, either needing a couple of days off
or basically only playing half a game, because that's the
other part, right, he's not playing defense, but one or
two plays a game.
Speaker 5 (09:32):
Gosh, it's really tough to not talk out of both
sides of my mouth when we're talking about Lebron, because
it is an accomplishment to see what he's doing and
what I mean, just what he's done with his body
and I always been able to pretty much avoid injury
that just that stuff doesn't happen, So there's an appreciation
of it. But it also does feel that he's always
gained the system to get his to get his number,
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and to think of Lebron now as the type of
player that he is, the type of player during all
those consecutive finals appearances were him being the dominant player
in the NBA, leading his team to those NBA Finals
appearances and still getting what he's.
Speaker 4 (10:10):
Got, And that's the difference of it.
Speaker 5 (10:12):
Of like I mean, if you were to play that
position at that age, I mean, just even do what
he's doing now is pretty remarkable and deserves credit. But
it's also just the point of it's not the same
Lebron that it was a decade ago or eight years ago,
or you know, around when they were competing or they
won the title in Cleveland, or even four years ago
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with the Lakers and when they won in the bubble.
It's just that's not it, because that's not who the
guy that he is anymore. And so there's no doubt
in my mind that he could probably go out and
get twenty three and eight and do what he wants
to do because he's in good shape, because he's going
to get the calls because he's Lebron James, and people
are gonna let him shoot the basketball. But is that
really productive in terms of what you're trying to provide
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your team and what you're doing with your team. Just
not him being on a rights isn't making the Lakers
an automatic title contender or any other team for that matter.
So what's the point that of playing another five or
seven years unless you're just trying to padd stats or
trying to add to your legacy that way.
Speaker 3 (11:11):
Yeah, I mean, and I guess that becomes the question, right, momentum,
motivations and off the field, in this case, off the court,
because we tie this back the theme of the night,
going back to the cam Ward discussions of you know
what drives you to get on the field? Brock Purty
playing tonight, you know what are you trying to prove?
I know everybody's bringing up the stat trailing or behind
(11:34):
in the second half of games. Brock Purty now for
his career nine touchdowns fifteen interceptions. We'll push that to
the side here, as you know, one of the data points.
But for Lebron James, like he's taken all the slings
and arrows from the best I use that word very
cautiously in our sports media world right for years, most
(11:57):
of it made no sense. And on the other side
you had the never had done wrong thing said the
ass kissing, So you've had it from both ends. But
to this point, you don't really care what anybody has
to say.
Speaker 4 (12:10):
Here, and here's the interesting part.
Speaker 5 (12:12):
We bring up Tiger Woods, and I think I'm one
of the last ones that actually believes that he could
win again because there's evidence over the last couple of
years that he's probably not going to. But you know,
Phil Michelson can can win a major at age fifty.
I'm not putting it past Tiger Woods. So just not
doing it. And I think that's the part of it is.
(12:33):
I think there are people who just think, like, all right,
Tiger's done, Tiger's not gonna win any more majors, So
why would you continue to do this? Was there a
time when Tom Brady wasn't a super Bowl contender, you know,
like in terms of I mean they win a super
Bowl and they win super Bowl fifty five and then
he comes back the next year, so they're a legit
(12:54):
super Bowl contender, end up losing to the Rams. And
so that's my whole point is how Brady never stuck
around to just stick around at like they were in it.
Maybe he could have, maybe he could have tried to
get another ring somehow, let another team carry him, but
he retired. When he retired, maybe felt the arm was
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was lost, and I think we saw evidence of that.
But Lebron continuing to play when his team isn't really
in it for the championship just that's not what other
great ones do. So I don't know if and he's
saying there that he's not going to play another five
or seven years, but to say that he could, well, yeah,
I think other people could as well into their deep ages,
but they would be what Lebron would be doing, and
(13:37):
that would be competing without the goal of winning a championship.
Speaker 3 (13:41):
But him Jordan and his wizard's days, right, I mean
he was still averaging twenty points. Again, Yeah, I weren't
competing for anything other than he still wanted to play basketball.
And that's what I meant about motivations. Yeah, right, Because
I firmly believe the we're not going to win is
very very much in Lebron's life, and I think he
understands that. Still holds out a sliver's hope, but I
(14:03):
think he's a realist at this point of no matter
what they can do, if Finny Smith comes in and
they work a little bit of magic, it's gonna take
an awful lot because Anthony Davis and he have to
stay healthy for this thing to happen. Right, They went
over seventy games last year. That hasn't happened.
Speaker 5 (14:20):
If Aaron Rodgers was leading the Jets to the AFC
East divisional title and playing a little bit better than
he had with his one point two total quarterback rating
and forty four rating, Like there would be a discussion
of like, Okay, do you bring Rogers back next year
to try to run it back because you're playing for
a championship, But would that be the smart thing?
Speaker 4 (14:43):
Would be more of a Peyton man anything.
Speaker 5 (14:45):
But you're not thinking about bringing him back to run
it back again for no reason. And that's why I
think that you're seeing a general consensus now of being like,
why would Aaron Rodgers come back next year? It's done,
it's over with, And I think you're seeing a prevailing interest.
You are, you know, prevailing opinion of that being it.
Whether he does come back or not, we will have
to see. But again, it's about winning championships when you're
(15:08):
at forty instead of just adding numbers to your you know,
all the records you already hold.
Speaker 3 (15:12):
Yeah, for a lot of other guys, they get retired, right.
Elway's body was done, Peyton Manning's body was done. Jerome
Bettis made it clear, I'm getting a super Bowl in
Detroit and I'm walking away. But generally the body's failed him.
Like at this point Lebron to your point, he's been hurt,
he's missed some games due to injury. The showmanship of
(15:32):
it all, maybe he's not as hurts as maybe gets
let on so he gets some extra rest along the
like whatever the case is, and massage it to your
own needs as that were, Like if the guy keeps
wanting to play and the Lakers are willing to just
be mid while cashing big checks because of his presence,
(15:57):
which everybody wins.
Speaker 5 (15:59):
Well yeah, yeah, everybody wins except Lebron's legacy, which.
Speaker 3 (16:04):
You're either at Lebron guy or not.
Speaker 5 (16:06):
Yeah, it's it's yeah, it's maybe fair with that, but
like like Tiger would just to bring it back to
Tiger because I think it's apropos. Tiger winning another major
does change how we look at him or would think
of him. And still like when he won the Masters
in twenty nineteen, and now that's going to be six
years ago. You know, come this spring, there were people
(16:28):
who were saying, now he's gonna beat Jack, Like they
felt like, oh, now you've won the fifteenth, now you're
gonna go and win three more. Yeah that's true, probably
not realistic. And again there are people who feel that
Tiger is probably done, but Tiger doesn't think that he's done.
I actually don't think that he's done. I still think
if you know, there's an opportunity in the right course,
(16:49):
in the right place. And again maybe I'm being naive
in this because of how you know, far other guys
can hit the ball, but him winning another major would
change it would be a I mean, it's it's almost
the equivalent of Lebron winning another title, at least of
I know, it's difficult in an individual and team sport,
and when you have four majors a year as opposed
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to one NBA title, it's not apples to apples. But
there is still some greatness that Tiger is going after.
He's not just going out there to make cuts. In fact,
when he just makes cuts and then finishes, you know,
dead last, for those that played the weekend, we kind
of go, oh, that's not good. Even if he had
a top twenty, we really don't care. Like it's still
about winning the tournament.
Speaker 3 (17:31):
Yeah, But in the end, he's got to wrestle with
his own demons, right. The poison pens and acid tongues
are going to be there regardless, yep, And for Lebron James. Look, man,
I don't know what he could do that would get
folks that are Jordan team Jordan to change their mind.
Speaker 5 (17:48):
I just wonder when he does call it quits, because
in the quota he's saying no, he wouldn't retire because
he can't do it anymore, doesn't love the game anymore.
Speaker 3 (17:57):
Whatever, Right, he's still gonna love the game a whole
miss it is everything else and went deep into that.
But yeah, now it's the curiosity because he got to
check off the box. He got Brownie to the NBA.
Good job by him. He's Dan Bayer. I'm by Karmen.
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So I think that's worthy of a victory lap as well.
Not quite the victory lap that Steve de Seger is
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gonna take coming out of his fantasy title Dan, but
he's gonna lord that over all of us too. I'm
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Speaker 4 (20:35):
The only league he does as well, I believe.
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Like no, your face looks skinnier. I got the approval
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Speaker 4 (21:43):
I thought she just wanted to feed you.
Speaker 3 (21:45):
No, no, no, no no. Usually I don't go over
there now at this point or or my dad takes
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all of that to say, it's a pretty exciting program
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good buddy. Thank you, appreciate it. Bit by bit, we're
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on the road to on the longer road to greatness,
kind of like seeing the Wizard of Oz Week eighteen
of the National Football League season. Every year it's the
consternation because we're gonna put on our fantasy hats here
for a few minutes of whether to use it, whether
to punt it. Certainly after the games of Week seventeen,
many quote meaningless games right that we're on the schedule,
(22:27):
and that's just the nature of the beast, the haves
that have nots that we have in the league. Parody
is a four letter word, at least for the twenty
twenty four season. So you had a lot of games
that had fantasy implications, but certainly the teams playing in
them had maybe nothing to play for. Maybe you would
(22:48):
talk about playing for draft status. Well that didn't work
because those teams actually went out and played well and won.
I'm looking at you Giants and Raiders. But all of
that to say, I want to use every game we can,
and it's Mike cliche two seventy two. They go away,
and then you're even gonna lament not having a six
to three Bears Seahawks affair to watch by time spring
(23:11):
training comes around.
Speaker 5 (23:12):
I am not there with you. A lot of times
we will agree on things. I am hunt on Week eighteen.
If there are no playoff implications for your favorite team,
do not go down the rabbit hole of figuring out
a way to gamble or do fantasy on it. To me, Mike,
save that for the postseason. You can figure out a
(23:33):
way to still be competitive or to have fun in
the playoffs in some sort of playoff format. It'll take
you all the way to almost mid February now, So
just use it as a break, especially after the holidays,
which have been crazy, and you've had a week where
you've had five days of football. Just take a breather
in Week eighteen. That's what I think it's all about.
(23:53):
Week eighteen again my least favorite week of the NFL season.
There's no doubt about it, because it just half the
games don't matter, and I think that you should take
a break as well.
Speaker 3 (24:03):
That's the beauty of the chaos of it for me, Dan,
is that we have no idea who's playing, who's in,
who's out, and yes, to the point of what you've
done for a full season could be a sabotage situation,
which is why it shouldn't be a standalone championship if
you're going to wrangle it into your league. But maybe
you do it for draft status, right for the draft.
(24:24):
Maybe you do it as a one week contest for
whatever there is prize money.
Speaker 4 (24:30):
League that's Steve won.
Speaker 5 (24:31):
There is a week eighteen contest as well for high points.
But then you're trying to pick up all the guys
that are you think are going to be.
Speaker 3 (24:39):
But the way ever, Wire comes back into play at
least for a week now. The other thing I wanted
to discuss is that we talk about the playoffs themselves. Right,
We've long held opportunities to draft and play it out
as a normal season. Well, our favorite type of league
now is available in the playoffs.
Speaker 4 (25:00):
I was surprised. I didn't even realize this.
Speaker 3 (25:01):
The guillotine has been added. Our guy Paul charch In
there back in Minnesota. He's made some business dealings Matt
Berry and his company and everything else. So they've got,
you know, their arms wrapped around it. But he put
up on Twitter that guillotine leagues are arriving for this playoff.
Speaker 5 (25:17):
I am curious on how it works because there's only
four weeks of play and there's a limited amount of teams.
But if you can figure out a way, as I've
told you what we do with with my fantasy football
league is we have our guys just take the fourteen
playoff teams and you fill out a lineup with one
player from each team with a quarterback, four running backs,
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four receivers or tight ends, and then four receivers, two
tight ends, and then defense and kicker and whoever is
the most points.
Speaker 4 (25:49):
At the end.
Speaker 5 (25:49):
So what it is is it's a little bit of
all right, this is who I think is going to
do well, but it's also this is who I think
it's going to advance. Yes, so you're putting in both
of your prediction methods on if you think a team's
gonna go to a super Bowl, you maybe want to
have the quarterback of that team, so that would be
your quarterback. So maybe if you like the ravenst upset
(26:10):
the Chiefs. You're gonna take Lamar Jackson in that scenario
because you think the Raven's gonna have a nice long run,
and it would make a lot of sense to do that,
whereas maybe you would leave somebody off to the side
if you think you're gonna get upset. Maybe if the
Lions are a top seed, they're gonna play one less game,
maybe get upsets. So maybe Jared Goff isn't the best
all of those decisions coming into play.
Speaker 3 (26:29):
No, that's the media of it, right. We try to
blend the world's as best we can. Confidence points in
your pick sets or or always against the spread. I
remember once upon a time folks wanted to do nothing
but straight up picking. Guess what, this year was actually
easier to pick against the spread, at least it was
for me. Then it was picking straight up. The way
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things worked out even if we didn't have the catastrophes
that folks point you, No, no, there were plenty of
blips on the radar of crazy ass upsets. Go back
and look at the Raiders actually beat this year. Go
back and look at some of the cellar dwellers and
the number and the teams that they actually scored their
wins against they rose up against some of the heavyweights.
Speaker 5 (27:10):
Well, and that's you know, the flip set of it.
It was us talking about the Commanders earlier. But yeah,
you do have those, those sort of scenarios are like, wow,
look at the wins like this. Honestly, like the Seahawks,
the Seahawks have only themselves to blame for not making
any of the playoffs, even though I'd like to blame
the refs on Saturday Night for not reviewing that interception
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call a little bit longer. They lost to the Giants
MIC in a home game. You know, they had a
field goal block that they were trying to tie it in.
Again that really they had no business being in any
way because of how poorly they played. But yeah, they're
those situations where even even the better teams. You know,
the Giants were miserable this year, but hey they're winning.
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Seattle kept the Seahawks out of the postseason the.
Speaker 3 (27:55):
Old any given Sunday rule. All I'm trying to say
is you got plenty of football ahead of you. Uh,
if fantasy is what you're doing daily, daily fantasy will
certainly be out there for from the different providers. Certainly
the prize picks and fan duels and DraftKings and everybody
in the world. Uh, they've got their different permutations to it.
But if you're in a long established league, maybe you've
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got something that you've you've stumbled upon that works for you.
Please let us know. Maybe it's something like the Pete
fu Tech Fantasy Football League's going all the way back
to nineteen eighty seven, where you're still pen and paper
and you refuse to yield.
Speaker 5 (28:32):
Our fantasy league that I played with my cousins when
I was younger, is on the printer that goes.
Speaker 3 (28:37):
Yeah the best.
Speaker 5 (28:40):
Then then you had had to tear it off the
rip off. Yes, yes, that was the printer.
Speaker 3 (28:49):
You guess what you're getting for Christmas next year? And
a Reba paper to go with. Yeah, he's Dan Bayer
On Mike Carmen, Fox Sports Radio. Jason Smith sew with me,
Mike Carmon, All right, let's go through a couple of
the heroes and zero's coming out of Week seventeen, because
we had just vastly different experiences for fantasy owners. Right,
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whether you're starting quarterback was suddenly on the shelf with
your Anthony Richardson Late sit down to Jalen Hurtz whatever.
Looking at the quarterback position, you know most of the
usual suspects were up there. Brock Perty gave you a
huge game before he got hurt, but Burrow, Baker, Jayden
Daniels were all top five guys oh, as well as
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Drew Locke. Yes, so you got yourself a nice little
surprise there. Conversely, Jordan loved Michael Penix, Matthew Stafford twenty
two to twenty five and twenty seven respectively.
Speaker 5 (29:43):
And I would even say to the effect of Josh
Allen unfortunately, was a disappointment. Yeah, compared to the other
quarterback numbers that you saw. Now, if Josh Allen's gonna
have three total touchdowns, are thinking, all right, I should
be good. But yeah, with Baker throwing for his five
and the other names that you mentioned, Josh Allen fell
down on the list.
Speaker 3 (30:03):
More Bjon Robinson again owing to what Michael Pennix's scores were.
So you know, you take the good, you take the
bad for b Jehon Robinson. That's five straight Monster games
to close out the fantasy run for you. Jamiir Gibbs.
Here's a stat that was up on ESPN thirty seven
point eight percent. That's how the percentage of rosters in
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championship games were one of the team or the other
had Jamiir Gibbs.
Speaker 4 (30:29):
Uh interesting, curious to go.
Speaker 3 (30:33):
Deep deep dive into more players, but that was the
one that stood out obviously because they were the Monday
NYE game, so that was the showcase one. But nearly
thirty eight percent.
Speaker 5 (30:41):
I would also think, I'm curious on what his average
draft spot was to start the year. But because you
a first, is that a late first, early second? So
you're cashing in in that realm because anybody that took
Christian McCaffery number one is probably not playing in their
fantasy championship game. And let's be real, if you had
Tyreek Hills as a top five pick in a PPR league,
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you are not probably playing in your championship game because
you were and not that first round picks make everything.
It's just the point of Gibbs probably cashed in, and
then the second round pick that you had probably cashed
in just as much.
Speaker 3 (31:20):
Now off of football, guys, the ADP for Gibbs was thirteenth. Sure,
So let's run through it real quick, because this was fun,
fun exercise We'll do this more next week as we
wrap up the season in total on the I Watch
Flex Podcast. But McCaffrey, Ceedee, Lamb, Tyreek Hill, Jamar Chase,
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Breze Hall, Yep, crushing b Jehan Robinson, I'm on Ross,
Aint Brown, Justin Jefferson, E AJ Brown, Garrett Wilson, Jonathan Taylor,
Suon Barkley.
Speaker 4 (31:57):
Okay, there's a Jimmier Gibbs, there's.
Speaker 3 (31:59):
A now Taylor at least the last the weeks that mattered,
like really mattered, as long as it didn't torpeer you
in the first. So that's the question, right, did his
early struggles cost you enough to where he wasn't playing
meaningful football for you at the end.
Speaker 4 (32:16):
I think that happened to a lot of.
Speaker 3 (32:18):
Probably to a lot of folks because it changed your
strategy going forward. Gibbs was thirteenth Puka Nakua and then
number fourteen Marvin Harrison Junior.
Speaker 5 (32:27):
Yeah, I I took that forbidden fruit.
Speaker 3 (32:30):
Yeah, I think we all took a bite. Yeah. Last
week seventeen kind of fails with AJ Brown based on expectations.
Obviously Hurts leaving the game and picket slash McKee h
Chan was a bust, and you know you got the
surprise huge game out of Elik Neighbors, who we were
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questioning whether he was going to play when you and
I spoke Thursday night.
Speaker 5 (32:57):
So Ian Roddy are executive producer of our podcas cast
Head Raiders as a streaming deed that ended up hitting
Pooka Nicool was my oasis song for they didn't get
into the end zone. Had a bunch of catches, yeah,
over one hundred and twenty yards as well, but just
didn't get it into the end zone.
Speaker 3 (33:13):
Now, we had a pretty pretty good run here.
Speaker 5 (33:16):
And at least Trey McBride finally came through for those
that rode him and his scoreless is no touchdown season
finally scores in Week seventeen. If only he had two
touchdowns on Week seventeen, Mike, I'd be a much happier camp.
Speaker 3 (33:32):
No question about it. At Dan Byron Fox where you
find and find me over at Swollen Dome. As we
wrap things up here tonight, we're gonna talk a little
more college football. We've got playoff games to prognosticate, to
speculate and converse about. But first we've got our guy,
Steve de Saga for the final time tonight. The champ
is here. Thank you go wrap up a big Monday night.
Speaker 4 (33:53):
Jamiir Gamson.
Speaker 8 (33:54):
The Lions eighteen carries tonight, one hundred and seventeen yards
rushing in a score. Detroit won at San Francisco forty
to thirty four. Jear Goff three touchdown passes. So the
Detroit Lions this season five times now have had games
where they scored at least forty points and had no turnovers.
Brock Purty four total touchdowns in defeat, but had two
second half interceptions. He left late with an apparent nerve
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issue at the elbow. There were no punts in this
game tonight. That is rare in the Super Bowl era.
So going back over fifty five years, this is just
the eighth NFL game without a punt by either side.
Playoffs included. Apparently we had one early this year.
Speaker 4 (34:31):
Commander Specs, Yeah, I remember.
Speaker 8 (34:34):
So we have a fourteen and two Detroit Lions record
now and they'll be playing host to the Vikings this
Sunday night in the regular season finale that'll decide the
one seed in the NFC. Dolphins quarterback Tyler Huntley will
get more reps in practice this week to a tongue
of i Looa missed yesterday's win with a hip injury
Miami's at the Jets. The Titans say quarterbacks Will Levis
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and Mason Rudolph will each play against the Texans this weekend.
Speaker 4 (34:58):
Music City Bowl nineteen.
Speaker 8 (35:00):
Frank Bassouri came back to beat Iowa twenty seven to
twenty four. In the NBA Late Games, Sacramento was down
eighteen first quarter and still beat Dallas one ten to
one hundred six game losing streak over for the Kings.
Kyrie Irving of the MAVs was out with a sore shoulder.
Joel emb thirty seven points in Philadelphia's easy win at Portland.
Cleveland won at seventh straight a victory at Golden State.
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Denver won at Utah. Nicola Jokic another triple double. It
included twenty two rebounds. Clippers won a close one at
New Orleans one sixteen to one thirteen. The Pelicans have
lost ten straight. Charlotte lost at home at overtime to Chicago.
The Hornets have lost eight in a row, and the
New York Knicks won their eighth straight a twenty point
win at Washington. Karl Anthony Towns thirty two points. John Morana,
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the Grizzlies will miss another game tomorrow with his sprain shoulder.
College hoops Kansas State beat number sixteen Cincinnati, NHL wins
for Florida and Seattle.
Speaker 3 (35:52):
Back to you, thanks so much, Steve, appreciating congratulations on
your thank you, well earned victory missed pas Looming large
and Fantasy Realms tonight. That and field goals? How about that? Crazy?
Speaker 5 (36:07):
There's always a story, there's that's the great thing about
fantasy leagues. And our league still remembers Byron Chamberlain. And
there's not many people that probably remember Byron Chamberlain, but
he was a tight end for the Denver Broncos and
somebody in our league had to start him because he
didn't his tight end get injured or whatever. And Byron
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Chamberlain scored a touchdown on Monday Night football against the Jaguars.
So it's Broncos Jaguar. Tells you how long this league
has been that that was a Monday night game. Yeah,
And Byron Chamberlain is still a story of lore in
our NAFL league.
Speaker 3 (36:41):
Guess what I'm gonna find you in the boxes. You're
gonna be sending Chamberlain cards to people. Damn Byron for
Jason Smith, I'll buy Carmen here in the tyre iraq
dot com. Fox Sports Radio Studios. Let's talk some college
football playoffs next here on Fox.
Speaker 7 (36:55):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
Show with Mike Harmon weekday, he said, ten pm Eastern,
seven pm Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 3 (37:06):
Hey, welcome back in Fox Sports Radio Jason Smith Show
with me Mike Harmon, Dan byer in for Jason Smith,
appreciate him. The Eyewatch Reflex podcast will be up our guys,
Shay taking care of things with Ian, the masterminds of
the digital tracks, along with our guy Alex Tye Shirt
who's made a sound oh so pretty tonight. Thank you
to the team. As always, we appreciate you guys. Hopefully
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you feel the love here as we're at the holiday
holiday holiday season, because I can get to go go
back to calling you dirty rotten so and so's in
about forty eight hours, right, Isn't that the way that works?
But anyway, we're getting ready for the college football playoffs.
The next round of things are finally here. Dan it
seems like it's been the you know, the waiting is
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the hardest part was the old Petty line, The waiting
game sucks. Let's play hungry, hungry Hippos of famous Homer Simpsonism.
But we get a number of bowl games tomorrow, starting
with Alabama Michigan Bright and Early live from Raymond James
Stadium in Tampa, Florida, where you've got a twelve and
a half point Alabama favorite status here forty four and
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a half your total. Louisville Washington will play South Carolina, Illinois, Baylor, LSU,
and then finally, ultimately we get to Penn State Boise State.
Eleven and a half is the line, fifty three and
a half the total. We talked with Pete fu Tech
earlier in the program and trying to figure out where,
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how and why you can potentially spring an upset here
against James Franklin and Penn State.
Speaker 5 (38:41):
I don't see it happening, but I do want to
say one thing before we dive into the quarterfinals, because
we touched earlier on the show about you were mad
at people and who are saying that the NFL has
been bad? And I've heard that people are mad that
the bowl games don't have the same feel as they
once did, and I loved bowl games forever, Mike, I
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have not watched any. It is no interest to me.
So you would think I would be mad because they're
not interesting. But guess what, We're going to have eleven
games that are interesting. We've had four of them and
now we're going to have seven more, including starting tomorrow
night with Penn State and Boise State, and that, to
me is the win. I don't care about the other bulls.
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I just don't. And that's the way it's going to be.
But more meaningful football actually has been made because of
the playoffs. I've just heard people can plain of, oh,
it's ruined the Bulls. Well, the bulls have been ruined
for how long? Right, I mean at least at some
point I've hung on to the Rose Bowl and people
have said to me the Rose Bowl has been dead
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for years.
Speaker 3 (39:48):
Yeah, but I would say this, right, each of the
bulls had meaning to wherever your conference was, to whatever
your team was, and beyond that, did you worry about
the other forty games?
Speaker 4 (40:01):
No?
Speaker 3 (40:02):
No, no, you didn't. You watched him like if you're
a disease college football fan, like you and I and
and this year it's a little different. And I don't
think it's because of the changes of Nil or whatever
I do. I don't. I think it's the glut. There's
a lot of stuff going on, and you compartmentalize and
you go back and tap into what really is your
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most passionate thing, or in our case, the thing you're
gonna talk about most Yeah, yep, right, instead of trying
to track twenty five hundred guys in a transfer portal. Yeah,
as to who's showing up and who's not.
Speaker 5 (40:35):
And I know that maybe not everybody's as locked in
on to the teams in college football and the middle
so I'm not as well. But I think we're gonna
be watching the festival on Tuesday night, and we're gonna
be watching that triple header, no doubt on New Year's Day.
Speaker 4 (40:50):
So that's a that's a win for me.
Speaker 3 (40:52):
Very excited the next couple of days, a lot of
football to watch. You see an upset coming out of
any of these four games.
Speaker 5 (40:58):
I do think Notre Dame can beat Georgia, But Fetec said,
what's really an upset? And I just think not talking
about Oregon is a dangerous thing. They're the underdog, but
there's still number one. I think that's.
Speaker 3 (41:10):
Getting this got a hide in plain sight the entire time, right, Yes,
but Gunnar Stockton has the opportunity to make his name.
He's Dan, I'm Mike. Thanks for hanging out with us,
Enjoy the games. Happy New Year to y'all. Chris Plank
coming up in for Ben Mallor tonight