January 1, 2025 • 41 mins
On tonight’s edition of The Jason Smith Show with Mike Harmon, Arnie Spanier and Chris Plank fill in for Jason Smith and Mike Harmon. Arnie and Chris kick off the hour by diving into the College Football Playoff. Next, the guys react to Week 18 of the NFL and discuss the strategy of benching players in the final weeks of the season. Finally, the duo shares their thoughts on who they believe will be the top pick in the upcoming NFL Draft. Don’t miss all this and more in Hour 3!
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Speaker 2 (00:23):
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Speaker 3 (00:30):
Yes, Happy New Year, my friend Maddy.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
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I'm waiting.
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Speaker 4 (01:04):
I got more pictures of football players weighing five hundred
pounds saying hey, Ashton genty when the games aren't against
San Jose and Wyoming.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
Did they include the Oregon game in there? We're nearly
rushed for two hundred yards.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
Yeah, no, that's not in it, of course not of course.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
So in your mind now it went when the Dolphins
draft Ashton did Genty? Are you gonna be mad about it?
Speaker 5 (01:25):
No?
Speaker 4 (01:26):
But you know you brought up a point where you said,
do you think now that Alabama didn't deserve because of
the loss that they had today? Well, why can't you
say the same thing to Genty now that he played
a really good defensive team. Yes, he played against Oregon,
had a good game on the road, on the road.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
A great game. He ran for one hundred and ninety
four yards.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
But this is in San Jose Community.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
College now, whom they didn't play.
Speaker 4 (01:52):
He's still had over one hundred yards, right, but significantly
his worst game all year long.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
Up to you, I'm not there to fight you over it.
If you want to say that he stinks, that's fine.
Speaker 4 (02:05):
But if you're gonna say that Alabama doesn't deserve to
be in the twelve team playoff because of their loss today,
can't we look at the same thing for no?
Speaker 2 (02:13):
No, Jack, let me sure if you want to, that's fine.
But if you're gonna be held accountable like that for
all of your takes, my man, you're never going to
be on the radio. I mean, it's just gonna be
rough for you. I will say this much. I didn't
necessarily say losing today shows that Alabama didn't belong in
the twelve team playoff. My point is, if you're going
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to talk as much gas about how you belonged in
how you deserve to be in the playoffs, you better
go win that bowl game because whether you feel like
it matters or not, it's an indicator of the kind
of team you are. And Alabama, while they had some
opt outs, was your starting quarterback out there? Going? Was
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their best wide receiver going? You bet he was?
Speaker 5 (02:58):
What?
Speaker 2 (02:59):
They go up against a Michigan team that had opt
outs of all of its major players and they still lost.
So to me, I look at that and say, you
want to show that you belonged in the playoffs and
at least make a statement you kick the snot out
of the team that you play in your bowl game.
Agree with me or disagree, that's fine.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
That ic that's the first thing you thought of. The
first thing I thought.
Speaker 4 (03:22):
Of was, WHOA, how bad do they not want to
be here today?
Speaker 3 (03:26):
How bad do they not want to?
Speaker 2 (03:27):
Don't opt out of the game. I mean, every single
one of those guys that play could have opted out
if they don't want to be there.
Speaker 3 (03:34):
You're right, Jeff. I don't know if it was Jeff Schwartz.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
It sure wasn't Jeff Schwartz that talked about not want
to be there.
Speaker 4 (03:40):
No, no, no, or Rich Hordenberger, one of the guys
saying I think it might have been Rich Hoordenberger saying
he was one of those guys that filled in when
everybody else said out a game.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
No no, no, no, you were right. It was Jeff,
but he was talking about the NFL.
Speaker 3 (03:53):
Okay, okay, my bad.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
Yeah, yeah no, Because that was on the the Dan
Campbell comment about I don't want to put anyone in
a position when they're not prepared for Jeff Schwartz said, yeah,
I was that guy, and I wanted to play right,
even if I hadn't practiced. I was one of those
dudes when they rested the starters, I got to play,
and I wanted to play exactly. But in this instance,
so if you want to tell me, hey, plank. You
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think that Alabama needed to win to prove they belonged
in the playoffs, that's fine.
Speaker 4 (04:19):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
And you want to counter and say, well, Ashton Genty
obviously isn't very good. If he didn't run for X
amount of yards against.
Speaker 3 (04:25):
Maybe you should just not very good.
Speaker 4 (04:26):
How about we should just pump the brakes on him
about how great he is?
Speaker 2 (04:30):
Well, okay, are you pumping the brakes on Travis Hunter
based on the lapping against Colorado or you pump the
brakes on shud Or Sanders.
Speaker 4 (04:36):
Yeah, I am pumping the breaks and shoulder Sanders a
Hunter because they've not were Were they oenate or O
nine against teams above five hundred or something to that effect.
I don't even know what they were. They were they
were not very good, to be honest with you, Chris,
they were there, and that does make me put them
a step backwards, that's for sure.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
So you're gonna you're Al Davis. I've finally decided that's
who you are. It's it's well and it's not a.
Speaker 3 (05:01):
Knock, which is money that I owned the team like that, but.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
Right, and all his money was was the Vegas Raiders.
At that time, the Oakland Raiders. So I gotta tell you,
I just I'm not gonna get I'm not gonna get
in the two knocking or too praising in a bowl game.
I'm just saying, if you come in it complaining about
you deserve this, you gotta win your bowl game. And
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Alabama didn't today and they look like craft their first
twenty two plays. Did I already give you that stat
first twenty two plays like negative four yards, turnovers and
a turnover on down.
Speaker 4 (05:37):
I've ever seen so many turnovers that started a game
like that.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
Hey, what did you Since we're on the bowl games
here quickly, what did you make of the little back
and forth between Brett Beelima and Shane Beemer? Did you
catch that?
Speaker 4 (05:50):
I saw a little bit of it, and I saw
people were tweeting at you about that also, Chris.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
Yeah, I was on the air while it was happening.
We were watching it take place. I was hanging out
with EJ. Manuel today And first of all, you know
this better than anyone because we've done a show together.
For a minute, it's hard to really tell what's going on.
You don't have the audio up right, you're counting on Twitter,
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and Twitter had no answers because everyone was making the
same joke, right, Everyone had the same joke showing you know,
someone getting held back, or oh, Shane Biemer going.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
To do finger pointing. I saw the finger pointing.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
Yeah, So if you missed it, Brett Bilama had an
injured player and it happened on a play where South
Carolina's punt returner our kick returner. A punt returner had
made the signal like hey, let the ball go, let
the ball go, and as soon as he did, another
guy grabbed it and ran with it. So the guy
got hurt on the play for Illinois. I think he
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was okay. Well, as Brett Bilama was walking over to
check on his player, he's walking over doing that sign,
the waving it off sign while he's walking towards him.
This guy's hurt on the South care line of sidelines,
and I don't know what he said, but he kept
doing it that little kind of waving his arms out,
and I guess Shane Beemer thought, I love you, Shane,
but kind of tried to go like a little Barney
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badass or something like Shane Biemer was gonna go take
out Brett Bilama. But I had to laugh because Beamer
is over there all fired up and he's pointing, and
they cut to the Illinois sideline and what's Beilama doing?
He just laughing. He didn't care. He's like, again, this
is like a cheese at Bowl. What do we get
fired up for in the Citrus Bowl? But Illinois won
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that game. So again, it's just it's hard whenever you're
trying to defend a team that earned that you feel
like earned or deserved a spot in the playoffs. South Carolina, Alabama,
it's hard for me to defend them when they don't
go out and win their bowl game. That's just kind
of my point about.
Speaker 4 (07:45):
Alabama, right, And I see your point, right, But I
do take when you said about one hund and Sanders,
I do take a little bit away from them also,
just like I take a little bit away from gent too.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
And can I just pass one more note? I just
a little bit of a left turn here.
Speaker 4 (08:01):
Did you see that story about Antonio Gates junior the
football player?
Speaker 2 (08:06):
Did you know what happened?
Speaker 3 (08:07):
He went to Michigan State. He's transferring to You want
to take a guess California, Delaware State?
Speaker 2 (08:15):
Right?
Speaker 3 (08:15):
Delaware? Degaware?
Speaker 2 (08:16):
Right? Is that.
Speaker 3 (08:18):
The new Hires that were.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
Oh, Michael Vick's a Delaware state.
Speaker 3 (08:22):
Yeah, Delaware State. That's where he's going to go with
Mike Vick.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
So he's gonna go from Michigan State to Delaware State. Yes, okay,
that kudos to Michael Vick. Hey remember Travis Hunter. Travis
Hunter was originally committed to Florida State, right, and then
he went with Dion Was it Jackson State where he
was at for a while. That's true, So it's not
an unprecedented movement. All right, Well, college football playoffs three
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games tomorrow. We hit it only had about thirty seconds
before the top of the hour. But as far as
spreads are concerned, Oregon's an underdog tomorrow. I haven't seen
if that mine has moved at all. Last I had
it was at two and a half ohios date. But
George is a one point favorite over Notre Dame. Texas
is a thirteen point favorite over Arizona State. As far
as just like true upsets are concern I guess the
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only true upset would be Arizona State pet Texas, Right.
Speaker 3 (09:13):
Right, right? I agree?
Speaker 4 (09:14):
I still think you know part of you wants to
say Arizona State, perhaps can keep it close.
Speaker 3 (09:17):
But the way that Texas offense.
Speaker 4 (09:20):
Is and the way the running game is and defensively,
I think they could do a better job against Arizona
State than they did against Clemson. This could be another blowout.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
Also, I wonder what Kenny Dillingham is gonna have dialed up.
I saw you sent the note and Disager had it
at the top of the hour about the new contract
for Kenny.
Speaker 3 (09:39):
Five year deal.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
That's pretty impressive.
Speaker 4 (09:42):
Well, five year deal would probably have says, oh, but
I can get out if somebody's gonna offer me more
money or something to that effect.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
It offers a pathway through performance incentives for the deal
to extend to ten years. A couple of other notes
here on this from Pete Tamil. The new deal for
Kenny Dillingham comes amid what is described as a wide
ranging commitment to football at Arizona State. As ASU is
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expected to add twenty scholarships for football, for roster expansion,
additional staff resources, and a full revenue share. Participant quote,
we are in the national conversation in Arizona State, source said,
we want to be committed to give our program the
resources to stay in the national conversation and compete nationally
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for the best coaching talent and recruit the talent to
compete at the highest level.
Speaker 3 (10:35):
Do you mean twenty more scholarship? What were they given?
Like sixty five?
Speaker 2 (10:39):
Well you now have that. There's some schools it's been
a reduction, but eighty five. You have an eighty five
and I think it's one oh five scholarship limit. Now
in college football there's been a change in the number
of scholarships you can give, and they're saying, hey, instead
of doing eighty five, we'll fully fund one hundred and five.
Speaker 3 (10:59):
Scholars They probably should.
Speaker 4 (11:01):
By the way, the fact that he got a new deal,
we could also put the rest at Alabama, will ever
think about firing their coach the Boors?
Speaker 2 (11:09):
Right?
Speaker 6 (11:09):
Yes?
Speaker 4 (11:10):
By by the did the did you see the buyout.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
In his contract on the Bors contract? Yeah? Yeah, it's ridiculous.
Speaker 3 (11:17):
Seventy million.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
Where did some of these people come from where they
say seven because you lost a game, you should be fired?
Speaker 3 (11:23):
Seventy million?
Speaker 4 (11:25):
Well, they did bring up the stat where he lost
the three teams as a double digit favorite.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
Any saver did that?
Speaker 4 (11:32):
He lost a double digit favorite three times in his
whole career.
Speaker 3 (11:35):
At Alabama.
Speaker 4 (11:36):
This happened in one year, but seventy million dollars, you
never goetna get fired.
Speaker 3 (11:41):
He can go on whatever. They'll never get fired.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
Can I point out one thing?
Speaker 3 (11:46):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (11:47):
Do you remember? And obviously Alabama's in a much different
situation in twenty twenty four than they were in twenty
oh seven, two thousand and seven when Saban took over. Right,
but do you do you remember Alabama losing to Louisiana
Monroe And yes, yes do just wanted to make sure
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they had a four game losing streak where they lost
to l s U in Mississippi State, Louisiana Monroe, in Auburn.
So everybody was in Shula?
Speaker 3 (12:14):
Was it Shula? What coach?
Speaker 2 (12:18):
Went through?
Speaker 3 (12:19):
A real tough time there?
Speaker 2 (12:21):
Oh prior to Nick Saban? Yeah, you had Shula, you
had the bows. It was bad man.
Speaker 3 (12:28):
She was the one that lost to Louisiana Monroad, was
it not?
Speaker 2 (12:30):
No?
Speaker 3 (12:31):
Nick Saban was, Oh, get audio. So that was his
first year, That was his first year.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
Yeah, Mike Shula actually got fired and uh that's when
Joe Kines took over as head coach and gave that
great May he rest in peace, gave that great interview
whenever they were playing in the Liberty but the Independence
Ball against Okahoma State, they're going halftime like that, get
you out at my vote. But yeah no, that was
Nick Saban that lost to Louisiana Monroe.
Speaker 4 (12:56):
Goodness, the program is falling.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
Calm down, Bama fans, all right, college football, Penn State's
moving on. We'll have more on the playoff games tomorrow
coming up here.
Speaker 3 (13:08):
And just one final thing.
Speaker 4 (13:10):
You don't think you think the ratings are going to
be pretty low like all the other times it was
for New Year's Eve?
Speaker 2 (13:15):
Right, Yeah, I don't think there's I think I think
tomorrow's Oregon Ohio State game is going to be the
most watched college I think, and in fact, it might
be the most watched Rose Bawl. I don't want to
get two carried away here.
Speaker 3 (13:29):
Texas. Arizona State will be good too.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
I don't think so. I don't think anyone cares about
Arizona State, but especially you. I don't know why you're
trying to build up your art trival here. This has
just got to chap your backside, right, Look at Arizona
State spending all this money playing in the playoffs.
Speaker 4 (13:45):
It does bother me because we were that guy see
two years ago, and now we're not.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
When did you guys make the playoffs?
Speaker 3 (13:52):
Oh we haven't.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
Oh sorry about that? And what happened to your coach
after the great season? They had to sign a long
term extent they stick around at Arizona.
Speaker 3 (14:01):
He's dead to me. Who I don't even know that guy.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
Jedfish moved on to Washington.
Speaker 6 (14:08):
You don't.
Speaker 4 (14:09):
I don't think you should be listed as one of
the coaches on our you know, at University of Arizona.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
You don't think you should be included, even though he
gave you one of your best seasons. But miscellaneous, miscellaneous
in a non.
Speaker 3 (14:20):
Avira I sc that's all you put down.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
That's a he Spaniel and Chris Plank. We're sitting in
for Jason and Mike. You can traditionally and consistently find
us Sunday nights from ten p to one a Central time,
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Sports Radio.
Speaker 4 (14:33):
But Arizona State won't let you remember that we went
ten years without losing to them in a row in football. Yes,
what years was that? Nine to oh to one? We
were not We tied one game by a miracle for
some reason.
Speaker 2 (14:47):
Well, then you've got that. But as I've been taught
by a very famous person, the show's tonight.
Speaker 3 (14:53):
Show is tonight. Yes, so we got to talk about.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
Now. Happy New Year everybody. If you're out and about,
don't drink and drive. So many options, ride shairs, uber
Lyft had call a friend, get a taxi. Don't make
the worst mistake you can make for your life to
kick off what's supposed to be a rebirth and a
start for twenty twenty five. Do the thing that Alex
ty Shirt and Shay and Ernie and I would do,
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uber Lyft. Whatever you take, don't drink and drive. And
I was talking to my daughter during the break. Do
you have any New Year's traditions? Like some people feel
like you need to eat black eyed peas as your
first food for the new year.
Speaker 4 (15:31):
On the right, Yeah, I usually pop the Martinelli's. But
my wife goes to bed at like.
Speaker 3 (15:37):
Right after we got home from dinner today. We went
out there for dinner, so she goes right to sleep.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
And uh, like five o'clock.
Speaker 3 (15:44):
Yeah, she she goes to bed at like three in
the afternoon.
Speaker 4 (15:47):
So no, sheriously she it's always she just goes right,
so'll fall asleep in a movie, TV shows so good,
she'll go to bed.
Speaker 3 (15:56):
Before she goes to bed, just a little nap.
Speaker 2 (15:59):
I don't blame her bad. I think we're kindred spirits,
Beth and our kindred spirits. Well, apparently here's something that
my daughter asked me about, the twelve grapes. Yeh, ty shirt, Shay,
aren't if you guys ever heard of the twelve grapes?
Speaker 3 (16:11):
No, I don't know what the hell you're talking about.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
Have you heard about this? Alex twelve grapes as a
tradition that you're supposed to eat on New Year's Eve?
Twelve grapes on New Year's Eve. The tradition originated in Spain,
but its spread widely. Each grape represents the twelve strikes
of the clock at midnight, as well as the twelve
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months ahead.
Speaker 3 (16:35):
Wow, really, what's interesting you said that?
Speaker 4 (16:37):
Is? After dinner, I went to the market to buy
myself some cupcakes. Huh, and there was two girls ahead
of me that were buying grapes.
Speaker 3 (16:44):
I was like, there you go, like, you look good,
but I don't want to fruit. I didn't want anything.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
January first is National Bloody Mary Day.
Speaker 3 (16:54):
I hate those things.
Speaker 4 (16:56):
I can have one, I can't have zero zero.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
Depend on how it's made.
Speaker 4 (17:02):
Are you like the time that Buddy Mary with like
a cheeseburger on it and shrimp and now sory and
all the full course menu on it?
Speaker 3 (17:11):
That makes me sick?
Speaker 2 (17:12):
I love Bloody Mary's.
Speaker 3 (17:13):
Are you remind me of like a smearinoff guy?
Speaker 2 (17:16):
He doesn't even know what that is? Yeah, okay, very good.
Here's another one.
Speaker 3 (17:24):
Apparently a great alcohol guy.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
Yeah he just straight up ever clear man. In Columbia,
there is the New Year's tradition of walking around with
an empty suitcase. Apparently, locals walk around their neighborhood carrying
an empty suitcase. The ritual, embraced, especially by those desiring
to travel board, signifies a year filled with globe trotting ahead.
Speaker 3 (17:52):
That here, I'm going to start that tradition here?
Speaker 2 (17:54):
Why not? The Filipino tradition of wearing polka dots is
apparently used to promote good luck and prosperity in the
new year, and another Filipino that is to eat round fruits.
Round fruit looks like a coin, and the sweetness of
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a fruit symbolizes sweet things in store in your life.
Speaker 3 (18:22):
I had a grape ruit for dessert yesterday.
Speaker 2 (18:24):
In Greece, people hang onions on their door on New
Year's Eve or day to promote health and longevity in
the new year.
Speaker 3 (18:33):
No, I want money, Let's see what was another?
Speaker 2 (18:36):
They say, light a candle. In Ecuador, there's a beloved
tradition called los agnos Viejos, in which people burn giant
dolls in order to get rid of bad energy, symbolically
an usher in new beginning.
Speaker 3 (18:55):
What is this the squid game? I think?
Speaker 2 (18:59):
And one more here? I got tons of And you've
never seen squid Game.
Speaker 3 (19:02):
I just watched the whole second season. I've been watched it.
It was horrible.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
You didn't like it?
Speaker 3 (19:07):
No, did not like it at all?
Speaker 2 (19:08):
Did you like the first season?
Speaker 3 (19:10):
Loved the first season?
Speaker 2 (19:11):
One more Brazilian tradition. You must wear white on New
Year's Eve.
Speaker 3 (19:17):
Oh I thought you have to get a Brazilian butt lift.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
No, no, no. Individuals may wear white on New Year's
Eve to represent peace and purification. At midnight, people also
jump over seven waves at the beach to offer their
respects to le Manga, the goddess of the sea, and rivers.
I got more of these all sprinkling.
Speaker 3 (19:40):
We're doing it all wrong here in the US.
Speaker 2 (19:42):
Yeah, apparently so our singing of all laid sign giving
a little kiss and then going to bed. I'm not
out supposed to be folks, not how it's supposed to be.
All right when we come back. Quite the controversy brewing
over decisions leading into the final week of the NFL
season to play are not to play? That's coming up next,
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Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
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Speaker 2 (21:38):
With Arnie on plank In for Jason and Mike here
on Fox Sports Radio. Happy New Year, everybody you feel
older on the East Coast? How's all hell?
Speaker 3 (21:48):
You all right? Twenty twenty five?
Speaker 4 (21:52):
You would think that this was like some symbolic year,
but we didn't make it that way. You know, when
twenty twenty came around, or obviously to two thousand was
big time.
Speaker 2 (22:01):
You know, Oh are you kidding me? Hy two? K
did you? It's kind of funny you look back twenty
five years ago, right, you were in radio? Were you
in one on one sports? Then?
Speaker 3 (22:14):
I don't know where the hell I was twenty five
years ago.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
I was the program director at fourteen thirty, one of
our great affiliates in Tulsa. I was young. I was
twenty five years old. Wow, I just got oh, I'm
sorry A two thousand. I was getting married in June
to my first wife. Notice, I have to make sure
I clarify and say, first, I'm a radio guy. I'm
on number two. Okay, it happens. And at midnight everyone
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was if you're a program director, oh.
Speaker 3 (22:43):
Yeah, I remember this.
Speaker 2 (22:44):
You had to be you had to be on edge,
right because everything was run by the computers. And what
was the big concern.
Speaker 4 (22:50):
From nineteen ninety nine to two thousand and Everything was
going to go crazy crazy because they won airlines and
bank accounts and everything.
Speaker 2 (22:59):
Everything was gonna be go on. And I'm sitting there
and I'm listening to it, and I'm at home and
we're not doing anything. I think we went to dinner
and now I wasn't quite filling in on anything yet
and I was just, you know, chilling. So we have
the radio on and I hear the ID hit, which
is the top of the hour for all your local
affiliates that let you know what you're listening to, and
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it's like this is KTBZ touls and I'm like, yeah, okay,
it worked, and then Arnie the ID started playing over
and over and because I was.
Speaker 3 (23:27):
Just saying, nothing happen and all that was Bologney.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
It was all it was. It was. But here I
am clueless, right, young program director, new new guy, and
this thing is just playing over and over. Ill get
my wife. I'm like, we're doing something's going on here.
I don't know what's happening. You know, I've got to
try to vpn inn. But that, you know, that was
back in the day where it wasn't as easy as
it is now. And I remember thinking it's over. It's
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I guess this is the start.
Speaker 3 (23:53):
It's fing apart.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
Thankfully, it was just something that got hung up. I
don't know that that was a turn that they told me.
And then it worked. Fine the rest.
Speaker 3 (24:02):
I think I was in Atlanta. I think that was
working there.
Speaker 2 (24:05):
You were in Atlanta in two thousand, Yeah, I think so.
I didn't even know you were in Atlanta. How long
were you in Atlanta?
Speaker 3 (24:12):
I was in Atlanta two years?
Speaker 2 (24:14):
Oh? Well, how about that?
Speaker 5 (24:16):
That?
Speaker 2 (24:16):
It was great?
Speaker 3 (24:16):
I got we had my that's my wife's favorite places. Atlanta.
Speaker 2 (24:20):
Really two whole years there. Then how did you end
up in Vermont?
Speaker 3 (24:24):
Oh? That's that was the end. And appear in Vermont?
Was my kid was playing hockey?
Speaker 2 (24:29):
Oh that's right.
Speaker 3 (24:29):
That's right.
Speaker 2 (24:30):
So if you're following the Arnie path, yes, it goes
like l It goes all over the New York to
La to Phoenix.
Speaker 4 (24:39):
There's a Dallas, Sago, couple of Chicago stops too.
Speaker 2 (24:44):
By the way. One of the New York traditions, and
I was very confused by that. I was learning about.
Since you've got some New York roots, smash a peppermint pig.
This tradition dates back to the nineteenth century and Saratogas Springs,
New York. Participants break a hard candy pig with a
hammer and share the pieces with those gathered round for
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good luck and cheer.
Speaker 3 (25:07):
We did that earlier today.
Speaker 2 (25:08):
Did we Okay, Well, I don't even know what a
peppermint pig is. But Mary New Year, everybody. You guys
have been great on the Twitter machine tonight. It's stinking
genius one. I'm at playing show. Everybody follow us at
Fox Sports Radio Nature Boy Rights. What I learned this
year is I'd rather watch someone build a diy gate
than watch an NBA game. I mean, I will say this.
(25:30):
HDTV is on in my house quite a bit because
of my family, and there have been times when I'm like,
you know what, I'll just watch this show about this
house being rainy built in the fourth quarter of this
thunder game. Warren Michigan, my buddy, Warren blanken Ship, Happy
New Year, Warren Michigan back to back against Ohio State
and Alabama, talk about chopping down some big trees. Milroe
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looked undeserving of the playoffs today, looked like the same
quarterback that played against Oklahoma. Wo that maybe we should
be bragging a little bit more about Michigan. What a
way to finish the season, right.
Speaker 4 (26:05):
Oh they give him credit offensively though after it was
sixteen nothing They didn't do squat.
Speaker 2 (26:10):
By the way, I want a correct a mistake I made.
I sent Michael Vick was at Delaware State. Incorrect, Nor is.
Speaker 3 (26:15):
It Norfolk State?
Speaker 4 (26:15):
So why would Tordio Gates Junior be going to deglaware.
Speaker 2 (26:20):
Be close to you? Maybe that's it. Maybe he heard
about the stinking genius up in that area. How far
are you from Delaware?
Speaker 3 (26:27):
I'm not sure.
Speaker 2 (26:28):
Hold on, let's know where that is.
Speaker 4 (26:30):
It's south of you, right, everything south of US CHRISTA.
Speaker 2 (26:35):
That's true. That's a good point. It's about an eight
hour drive. Okay, it not too terribly close. But I
don't know. Maybe I know this isn't a popular opinion,
but just because you're the son of a great player
doesn't necessarily mean that you're great.
Speaker 3 (26:49):
That's true.
Speaker 2 (26:50):
I mean I like Barry Sanders Junior a lot, and
it was unfair because he came out of high school
in Oklahoma City and went to Stanford and everyone's like,
you gotta go to Oklahoma State, Barry Sanders, kids, you're
gonna be great, and it's just, you know, it's hard
to live up to that.
Speaker 4 (27:03):
I was like, yeah, you're right, because he was such
a big name, he was mister college football, and very
rarely does that happen.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
You know, Paul Wrights. My favorite Alabama head coach is
Mike Price, who was hired in December of two thousand
and two and fired in May of two thousand and three.
If we're going to a strip club in Pensacola, Florida. Yeah,
here's the thing, though, You got to remember. The problem
wasn't that he went to a strip club. The problem
was that he put it on the company credit card.
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That was the problem with Mike Price. Do you remember, Oh,
do I lose Arny DoD You remember that story?
Speaker 3 (27:40):
I remember the story.
Speaker 4 (27:41):
Yeah, But they don't fire you now for going to
a strip club, do they?
Speaker 2 (27:45):
Well, they did with they did with Hugh Freeze at
Ole miss. I guess that was a little bit more
in depth. Just if you don't use your company credit card,
it's not against the law to go to a strip club.
I'm just if you want to try to be holier
than now and you clutch your pearls at it and
the next night you're throwing dollars at Phoenix who's on
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stage two, then yeah, you're a hypocrite, right, but you're
not necessarily breaking the law. So that was Yeah, that
was one of the dumbest things ever. And then, by
the way, Mike Price had a good run at UTAP,
really good coach at UTEP, and Paul did add I'm
substituting twelve grapes for twelve Miller lights.
Speaker 3 (28:27):
Oh there you go. That's a good. That's a good.
The consequence I like to think, so good one, I.
Speaker 2 (28:33):
Think so too. And then, mister Nobody, one more quick
one off the tweets tonight. Last year, FSU fans, as
myself had to hear Alabama say the committee got it
right because of FSU losing their bowl game. I wonder
how the BAMA field fans are enjoying that taste of
karma pie with losses to Vandy and OU who lost
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to Navy sprinkled it. Hey, Hey, had a lot of
opt outs in our old game, mister Nobody, only fifty
six scholarship players, and twenty four of them were freshmen.
Speaker 4 (29:05):
Yeaheen in that gaume something seven drops a couple of
poor fourth down choices.
Speaker 2 (29:11):
Anyway, I digress. I'm not here to relive the.
Speaker 3 (29:13):
Armed Forces Bowl nor No, you can't do that.
Speaker 2 (29:16):
I think it's unfair to use the Florida State Bowl
performance from last year because they had so many opt outs.
Florida State go back to last year when they played
I think with Georgia when they played them, I mean
that was that was not even a shell of the
Florida State team that finished the regular season twelve and zero.
It was simple. They when they didn't get in the
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playoffs and Jordan Travis goot hurt, everyone was like, peace out,
we're done, We're moving on. We've got NFL to think
about and maybe transfer Portal. So Alabama's different. Alabama had
a lot of its regular players play today, including Jalen
Milroe and Ryan Williams. Florida State last year did not,
but it did not stop anyone from saying, oh gosh,
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glad they didn't go to the playoffs. Did just see
the score of that game? I want to say, it
was like really bad too. It wasn't like Georgia then
they beat him like fifteen to ten or something like that.
Speaker 3 (30:09):
It was just disgusting. It was bad.
Speaker 2 (30:11):
But I don't think that that I don't think that
that was fair to use that as a Hey, you
didn't belong to the playoffs because you lost that game.
All right, Arnie, we got some NFL to get to,
and I can't believe that college football has been so
hot in tonight with the Penn State win over Boise State,
that we've gone two and a half hours without hitting
any of the numeral topics involving the National Football League.
(30:32):
So allow me to start with one that is still
relevant from Monday Night football, even though we crossed into
twenty twenty five and into Wednesday. Dan Campbell made the
decision in a I guess it's fair to say meaningless
Monday night football game, to go ahead and play his
starters now. Just at the core of it, they won.
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The game ended up being a pretty good game, but
you have a problem with the Lions in a meaningless
game going with their starters on Monday Night.
Speaker 3 (31:02):
I could say no right now.
Speaker 2 (31:04):
Because they won and no one got hurt, right.
Speaker 4 (31:05):
Exactly, But if somebody would have gotten hurt, I would
have been the first person that said, there going. How
stupid do you have to be to play your starters
in a game like that? Would have been absolutely nothing,
And the very next week you're playing in the big
game that means everything. You know, Chris all joking aside,
because if that would have happened, that's exactly what.
Speaker 3 (31:22):
I would have done.
Speaker 4 (31:23):
I would have called him an idiot for putting your
players at arms away in a.
Speaker 3 (31:27):
Scenario like this.
Speaker 4 (31:30):
This is completely different than the Kansas City Chiefs, who
will have twenty six days off.
Speaker 3 (31:34):
I believe Detroit should have.
Speaker 4 (31:36):
Rested their players and gotten ready for this weekend coming
up week eight team, because the game means everything, and
everything's on the line there. The game against San Francisco
meant nothing, and it was a good win, but at
the end of the day, it means nothing, and I'm
sure your players could have gotten the rest and used
the rest.
Speaker 2 (31:53):
Here's what Dan Campbell said about it afterwards.
Speaker 5 (31:55):
Yeah, it was on my mind, you know. I mean
I thought a lot about it, you know. I thought
about it leading up to the game. I thought about
it last night, I told the staff. But I ended
up settling on the right thing to do was play
these guys, and because we owed it to the team,
you know, and it was just one of those those
positions we were in. It's just hard to say who
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you gonna sit, and it's not fair to ask guys
to play that haven't been prepared to play, you know.
Speaker 2 (32:24):
That was the common that Jeff Schwartz right, Oh, is
that what it was? I spotted to you. He's like, listen,
I was one of those guys, and I didn't care.
I wanted to play.
Speaker 4 (32:32):
If Kibs goes down and then you lose two running
backs for the rest of the year, your season's done.
Your quarterback goes down, your season's done, Saint Brown goes done.
Your chances the Super Bowl is probably out the window.
Speaker 3 (32:43):
So many things.
Speaker 4 (32:44):
And it was on the road in San Francisco, which
is a tough place to play. Whether San Francisco is
a good team or not. Wouldn't have taken that chance. Now,
Kansas City, that's a whole nother story. I may play
my players this weekend against Denver if i'm Kansas City
because they have so much time off.
Speaker 2 (33:02):
Here was one more from Dan Campbell. Were you were
you nervous during the game about playing your guys.
Speaker 5 (33:08):
We grew out here, we prepared this way, we came
out to win, and uh and that's ultimately what it
came to. And yeah, you do you cross your fingers.
Nobody gets hurt. I mean, it's tough, and we were fortunate,
you know, we got.
Speaker 3 (33:20):
Out very fortunate.
Speaker 4 (33:23):
So with that in mind, we've been calling you a
knucklehead right now, if somebody got hurt till.
Speaker 2 (33:28):
The end of time. There is nothing official from the Chiefs,
but I can't fathom they're going to play anyone on
Sunday right.
Speaker 3 (33:37):
Oh, it's official based on the line.
Speaker 2 (33:39):
It's official base online, which is is it still ten?
Speaker 3 (33:42):
Up to ten?
Speaker 2 (33:43):
Now?
Speaker 4 (33:43):
It was nine when we were doing the show on
Sunday when it first came out, Chris, I remember it
was nine, and now it's up to ten.
Speaker 3 (33:51):
So money's coming in on Denver.
Speaker 2 (33:53):
If If Andy Reid comes out and says we're going
to go ahead and play our stars, how quickly does
that line move?
Speaker 3 (34:03):
It will I mean, it will never move towards a
pickup game. If that's what you're asking.
Speaker 2 (34:07):
Well, I'm just asking how far do you think it
would move? Because again, let's remember, let's remember just for
context right now, right Andy, and he doesn't have to
and I don't think he will, And you only have
eight spots for guys you can truly make inactive, and
then whether or not you play them if they're in
uniform is another decision. But if you're Andy Reid, you
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don't have to say anything. Everything about them not playing
their starters. I'm just giving this for context. I'm not
saying I think they're gonna play. But it's been a
CBS report from Jonathan Jones and reports that sound like this.
The assumption around the league is that Kansas City is
not going to play starters. There's been nothing out of
Kansas City yet. But the line, as you said, went
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from Kansas City being a four point favorite to Denver
being an eleven point favorite.
Speaker 4 (34:56):
Right right, it would go down to probably like four
still with Denver's the favorite.
Speaker 3 (35:02):
Yes, with Denver still be in the favorite.
Speaker 2 (35:05):
Do you play any of your starters if you're in
a position like the Rams or the Steelers where you're
in and it's about it's about positioning, right, It's about
moving up or down a spot five, six or seven
I think for the Steelers, four or three for the Rams.
Speaker 4 (35:23):
Yes, you want to move up, so you play your
players for the positioning. Also, the only reason I said
that maybe play Kansas City is going to have twenty
six days off. If you don't play them, then they'll
have If you do play them, then they'll have a
nineteen days off or something to that effect. That's plenty
of time. I twenty six can really bring in the rust.
I think that's too many days off. No reason to
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give him that many days off.
Speaker 2 (35:47):
Josh Allen apparently is going to play to keep his
start streak intact.
Speaker 3 (35:53):
Well, look at Philadelphia's playing their starters. But there's a
reason why.
Speaker 2 (35:56):
Well allegedly, right, they still haven't made that decision.
Speaker 4 (35:59):
They're gonna go. Well, they want Barkery to break the record.
Speaker 2 (36:03):
Is so it's official, they're gonna do that.
Speaker 3 (36:06):
I thought it was. I I just assumed it was
gonna be official.
Speaker 2 (36:09):
Because the last I saw is that Sirianni was gonna
talk to team captains and everyone involved to see whether
or not they're gonna make that move because he wants
to play. He wants to break the record. But if
Saquon Barkley, and again I know we're talking about disaster scenarios,
but if Saquon Barkley goes down, when Jalen Hurts is
already down, Kenny Pickett's already heard, you're starting Tanner McKee
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on Sunday, I mean that's I don't know. I mean
that just seems really risky.
Speaker 4 (36:37):
Mike, Dolphins have no chance of going to the playoffs,
do they I don't know.
Speaker 2 (36:40):
All you've told me is that they're going to playoffs
for the last three weeks. Why would you bail out now?
Speaker 4 (36:45):
Because all I needed was Kansas City to win and
now I feel like they're not gonna win.
Speaker 2 (36:50):
Well, you needed Kansas City to win, and then you
needed to beat the Jets.
Speaker 3 (36:53):
Well that's over already. That's done.
Speaker 2 (36:55):
Even without two as your quarterback, I could beat the quarterback. Well,
I don't know about that, but I wonder if the
Jets might not play Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 3 (37:05):
No, he'll play.
Speaker 2 (37:07):
They pulled him out of the game last week. Yeah,
I'm sorry. He pulled himself out of there.
Speaker 3 (37:12):
Because he has to get He has four hundred ninety
nine touchdowns.
Speaker 2 (37:15):
Oh he has to get. Oh that's right. Edie wants
that five hundredth to beat Davonte Adams, right right right.
So well, anyway, we'll see exactly and no one has
to report anything. I'm just gonna make that very clear.
No one has to come out and say we're not
playing our starters. No one has to do that. Follow
the Vegas lines and keep an eye on whether or
not you see a situation play out where someone might
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change their mind and decide they weren't gonna play, but
now they're gonna give him a shot when we come back,
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Speaker 2 (37:54):
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Speaker 3 (38:05):
Oh quick, one quick show.
Speaker 2 (38:07):
Oh I forgot Bill Krackenberger is going to join us
next hour in our second segment.
Speaker 3 (38:12):
Oh is he gonna be crabby or what?
Speaker 2 (38:14):
Why? What do you think?
Speaker 3 (38:17):
He's in a one of those knockout pools?
Speaker 2 (38:19):
Uh huh?
Speaker 3 (38:20):
And he had the colts?
Speaker 2 (38:24):
Ooh ooh? How much was on the line? Do you know?
Speaker 3 (38:28):
Fourteen point six million million?
Speaker 2 (38:31):
Yeah, yeah, I'd be crabby too. Would he win all
of it?
Speaker 3 (38:35):
No? No, no, no, no, fourteen point six million. There was
forty five teams left. But after.
Speaker 4 (38:43):
Put it this way, after last week and then this week,
you know, but you can only take certain teams that
you ever used before.
Speaker 3 (38:49):
Blah blah blah.
Speaker 4 (38:50):
The probably would have only been about ten teams left
when it was all said and done. They actually had
a good route to the finish. So they had to
do was get by the Colts. They ended up losing
to the Giants. Bill bought it.
Speaker 3 (39:04):
I heard him.
Speaker 4 (39:05):
We could ask him about this when he comes on,
but he yeah, twenty percent of a team, and we
were trying to figure out and he was talking about
how much it was worth at this point. But it's
all moot now, but I think at the before the
game started it was.
Speaker 3 (39:17):
Worth like a couple of hundred thousand dollars. Three hundred
thousand dollars for him.
Speaker 2 (39:22):
Well that's a big difference from fourteen point six million.
Speaker 3 (39:25):
Well that's the number.
Speaker 4 (39:26):
Well, that's there's still two weeks left. Though, I remember
he was only at twenty percent buy in for the team.
Everybody else, I'm sure that money Yeah, okay.
Speaker 2 (39:34):
Well fair enough, but stupid Colts. I mean that was
when you lose your biggest supporter like they've lost Pat McAfee.
I don't think there's a he's coming back. Yeah, that was,
and every point he made was great. Hey, you would
mention in Roman numeral number four for tonight's show as
we kind of have moved on past the Fiesta Bowl
where pen State won at thirty one to fourteen. Pen State,
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by the way, is now eight to no in Fiesta
Bowls in their school's history. Wild random stat but you
had mentioned in Roman numeral four the top pick in
the draft now Pete at Republic Pete seventy six. Hit
us up on X with this great question do you go?
Do you guys believe should or Sanders will pull an
Eli Manning and not go to any other team than Vegas.
(40:19):
Unpopular opinion, but I don't think his game will translate
to the NFL. You think should War is the top pick.
Speaker 4 (40:27):
I did send you a mock draft, by the way,
I don't know if you saw that they didn't have
Sanders as the top three picks. And I do think
he's gonna pull something. I don't know if it's him
or his father's gonna pull something. If like he goes
I'm just picking a team to Titans or wherever. If
he goes to a place that he doesn't want to
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go to, then I think he'll be pulling some Shenanigans,
unless it's like the Giants or Las Vegas.
Speaker 3 (40:53):
But I do think he'll do something.
Speaker 4 (40:55):
The mock draft I had you, uh, I sent you
had McMillan the wide receive out of Arizona going number one.
Speaker 2 (41:01):
Yeah, I saw that, but you know that was just
that that Twitter feed. That was the PFF College doing
their own drag.
Speaker 3 (41:08):
Jam Ward number two.
Speaker 2 (41:10):
I if anyone's gonna go number one, maybe maybe McMillan.
Wide receivers don't go number one. It just doesn't happen.
But I sure could see New England falling in love
with Travis Hunter. All Right, when we come back to
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Speaker 4 (01:04):
I got more pictures of football players weighing five hundred
pounds saying hey, Ashton genty when the games aren't against
San Jose and Wyoming.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
Did they include the Oregon game in there? We're nearly
rushed for two hundred yards.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
Yeah, no, that's not in it, of course not of course.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
So in your mind now it went when the Dolphins
draft Ashton did Genty? Are you gonna be mad about it?
Speaker 5 (01:25):
No?
Speaker 4 (01:26):
But you know you brought up a point where you said,
do you think now that Alabama didn't deserve because of
the loss that they had today? Well, why can't you
say the same thing to Genty now that he played
a really good defensive team. Yes, he played against Oregon,
had a good game on the road, on the road.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
A great game. He ran for one hundred and ninety
four yards.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
But this is in San Jose Community.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
College now, whom they didn't play.
Speaker 4 (01:52):
He's still had over one hundred yards, right, but significantly
his worst game all year long.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
Up to you, I'm not there to fight you over it.
If you want to say that he stinks, that's fine.
Speaker 4 (02:05):
But if you're gonna say that Alabama doesn't deserve to
be in the twelve team playoff because of their loss today,
can't we look at the same thing for no?
Speaker 2 (02:13):
No, Jack, let me sure if you want to, that's fine.
But if you're gonna be held accountable like that for
all of your takes, my man, you're never going to
be on the radio. I mean, it's just gonna be
rough for you. I will say this much. I didn't
necessarily say losing today shows that Alabama didn't belong in
the twelve team playoff. My point is, if you're going
(02:34):
to talk as much gas about how you belonged in
how you deserve to be in the playoffs, you better
go win that bowl game because whether you feel like
it matters or not, it's an indicator of the kind
of team you are. And Alabama, while they had some
opt outs, was your starting quarterback out there? Going? Was
(02:55):
their best wide receiver going? You bet he was?
Speaker 5 (02:58):
What?
Speaker 2 (02:59):
They go up against a Michigan team that had opt
outs of all of its major players and they still lost.
So to me, I look at that and say, you
want to show that you belonged in the playoffs and
at least make a statement you kick the snot out
of the team that you play in your bowl game.
Agree with me or disagree, that's fine.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
That ic that's the first thing you thought of. The
first thing I thought.
Speaker 4 (03:22):
Of was, WHOA, how bad do they not want to
be here today?
Speaker 3 (03:26):
How bad do they not want to?
Speaker 2 (03:27):
Don't opt out of the game. I mean, every single
one of those guys that play could have opted out
if they don't want to be there.
Speaker 3 (03:34):
You're right, Jeff. I don't know if it was Jeff Schwartz.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
It sure wasn't Jeff Schwartz that talked about not want
to be there.
Speaker 4 (03:40):
No, no, no, or Rich Hordenberger, one of the guys
saying I think it might have been Rich Hoordenberger saying
he was one of those guys that filled in when
everybody else said out a game.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
No no, no, no, you were right. It was Jeff,
but he was talking about the NFL.
Speaker 3 (03:53):
Okay, okay, my bad.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
Yeah, yeah no, Because that was on the the Dan
Campbell comment about I don't want to put anyone in
a position when they're not prepared for Jeff Schwartz said, yeah,
I was that guy, and I wanted to play right,
even if I hadn't practiced. I was one of those
dudes when they rested the starters, I got to play,
and I wanted to play exactly. But in this instance,
so if you want to tell me, hey, plank. You
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think that Alabama needed to win to prove they belonged
in the playoffs, that's fine.
Speaker 4 (04:19):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
And you want to counter and say, well, Ashton Genty
obviously isn't very good. If he didn't run for X
amount of yards against.
Speaker 3 (04:25):
Maybe you should just not very good.
Speaker 4 (04:26):
How about we should just pump the brakes on him
about how great he is?
Speaker 2 (04:30):
Well, okay, are you pumping the brakes on Travis Hunter
based on the lapping against Colorado or you pump the
brakes on shud Or Sanders.
Speaker 4 (04:36):
Yeah, I am pumping the breaks and shoulder Sanders a
Hunter because they've not were Were they oenate or O
nine against teams above five hundred or something to that effect.
I don't even know what they were. They were they
were not very good, to be honest with you, Chris,
they were there, and that does make me put them
a step backwards, that's for sure.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
So you're gonna you're Al Davis. I've finally decided that's
who you are. It's it's well and it's not a.
Speaker 3 (05:01):
Knock, which is money that I owned the team like that, but.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
Right, and all his money was was the Vegas Raiders.
At that time, the Oakland Raiders. So I gotta tell you,
I just I'm not gonna get I'm not gonna get
in the two knocking or too praising in a bowl game.
I'm just saying, if you come in it complaining about
you deserve this, you gotta win your bowl game. And
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Alabama didn't today and they look like craft their first
twenty two plays. Did I already give you that stat
first twenty two plays like negative four yards, turnovers and
a turnover on down.
Speaker 4 (05:37):
I've ever seen so many turnovers that started a game
like that.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
Hey, what did you Since we're on the bowl games
here quickly, what did you make of the little back
and forth between Brett Beelima and Shane Beemer? Did you
catch that?
Speaker 4 (05:50):
I saw a little bit of it, and I saw
people were tweeting at you about that also, Chris.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
Yeah, I was on the air while it was happening.
We were watching it take place. I was hanging out
with EJ. Manuel today And first of all, you know
this better than anyone because we've done a show together.
For a minute, it's hard to really tell what's going on.
You don't have the audio up right, you're counting on Twitter,
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and Twitter had no answers because everyone was making the
same joke, right, Everyone had the same joke showing you know,
someone getting held back, or oh, Shane Biemer going.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
To do finger pointing. I saw the finger pointing.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
Yeah, So if you missed it, Brett Bilama had an
injured player and it happened on a play where South
Carolina's punt returner our kick returner. A punt returner had
made the signal like hey, let the ball go, let
the ball go, and as soon as he did, another
guy grabbed it and ran with it. So the guy
got hurt on the play for Illinois. I think he
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was okay. Well, as Brett Bilama was walking over to
check on his player, he's walking over doing that sign,
the waving it off sign while he's walking towards him.
This guy's hurt on the South care line of sidelines,
and I don't know what he said, but he kept
doing it that little kind of waving his arms out,
and I guess Shane Beemer thought, I love you, Shane,
but kind of tried to go like a little Barney
(07:09):
badass or something like Shane Biemer was gonna go take
out Brett Bilama. But I had to laugh because Beamer
is over there all fired up and he's pointing, and
they cut to the Illinois sideline and what's Beilama doing?
He just laughing. He didn't care. He's like, again, this
is like a cheese at Bowl. What do we get
fired up for in the Citrus Bowl? But Illinois won
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that game. So again, it's just it's hard whenever you're
trying to defend a team that earned that you feel
like earned or deserved a spot in the playoffs. South Carolina, Alabama,
it's hard for me to defend them when they don't
go out and win their bowl game. That's just kind
of my point about.
Speaker 4 (07:45):
Alabama, right, And I see your point, right, But I
do take when you said about one hund and Sanders,
I do take a little bit away from them also,
just like I take a little bit away from gent too.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
And can I just pass one more note? I just
a little bit of a left turn here.
Speaker 4 (08:01):
Did you see that story about Antonio Gates junior the
football player?
Speaker 2 (08:06):
Did you know what happened?
Speaker 3 (08:07):
He went to Michigan State. He's transferring to You want
to take a guess California, Delaware State?
Speaker 2 (08:15):
Right?
Speaker 3 (08:15):
Delaware? Degaware?
Speaker 2 (08:16):
Right? Is that.
Speaker 3 (08:18):
The new Hires that were.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
Oh, Michael Vick's a Delaware state.
Speaker 3 (08:22):
Yeah, Delaware State. That's where he's going to go with
Mike Vick.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
So he's gonna go from Michigan State to Delaware State. Yes, okay,
that kudos to Michael Vick. Hey remember Travis Hunter. Travis
Hunter was originally committed to Florida State, right, and then
he went with Dion Was it Jackson State where he
was at for a while. That's true, So it's not
an unprecedented movement. All right, Well, college football playoffs three
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games tomorrow. We hit it only had about thirty seconds
before the top of the hour. But as far as
spreads are concerned, Oregon's an underdog tomorrow. I haven't seen
if that mine has moved at all. Last I had
it was at two and a half ohios date. But
George is a one point favorite over Notre Dame. Texas
is a thirteen point favorite over Arizona State. As far
as just like true upsets are concern I guess the
(09:10):
only true upset would be Arizona State pet Texas, Right.
Speaker 3 (09:13):
Right, right? I agree?
Speaker 4 (09:14):
I still think you know part of you wants to
say Arizona State, perhaps can keep it close.
Speaker 3 (09:17):
But the way that Texas offense.
Speaker 4 (09:20):
Is and the way the running game is and defensively,
I think they could do a better job against Arizona
State than they did against Clemson. This could be another blowout.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
Also, I wonder what Kenny Dillingham is gonna have dialed up.
I saw you sent the note and Disager had it
at the top of the hour about the new contract
for Kenny.
Speaker 3 (09:39):
Five year deal.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
That's pretty impressive.
Speaker 4 (09:42):
Well, five year deal would probably have says, oh, but
I can get out if somebody's gonna offer me more
money or something to that effect.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
It offers a pathway through performance incentives for the deal
to extend to ten years. A couple of other notes
here on this from Pete Tamil. The new deal for
Kenny Dillingham comes amid what is described as a wide
ranging commitment to football at Arizona State. As ASU is
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expected to add twenty scholarships for football, for roster expansion,
additional staff resources, and a full revenue share. Participant quote,
we are in the national conversation in Arizona State, source said,
we want to be committed to give our program the
resources to stay in the national conversation and compete nationally
(10:31):
for the best coaching talent and recruit the talent to
compete at the highest level.
Speaker 3 (10:35):
Do you mean twenty more scholarship? What were they given?
Like sixty five?
Speaker 2 (10:39):
Well you now have that. There's some schools it's been
a reduction, but eighty five. You have an eighty five
and I think it's one oh five scholarship limit. Now
in college football there's been a change in the number
of scholarships you can give, and they're saying, hey, instead
of doing eighty five, we'll fully fund one hundred and five.
Speaker 3 (10:59):
Scholars They probably should.
Speaker 4 (11:01):
By the way, the fact that he got a new deal,
we could also put the rest at Alabama, will ever
think about firing their coach the Boors?
Speaker 2 (11:09):
Right?
Speaker 6 (11:09):
Yes?
Speaker 4 (11:10):
By by the did the did you see the buyout.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
In his contract on the Bors contract? Yeah? Yeah, it's ridiculous.
Speaker 3 (11:17):
Seventy million.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
Where did some of these people come from where they
say seven because you lost a game, you should be fired?
Speaker 3 (11:23):
Seventy million?
Speaker 4 (11:25):
Well, they did bring up the stat where he lost
the three teams as a double digit favorite.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
Any saver did that?
Speaker 4 (11:32):
He lost a double digit favorite three times in his
whole career.
Speaker 3 (11:35):
At Alabama.
Speaker 4 (11:36):
This happened in one year, but seventy million dollars, you
never goetna get fired.
Speaker 3 (11:41):
He can go on whatever. They'll never get fired.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
Can I point out one thing?
Speaker 3 (11:46):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (11:47):
Do you remember? And obviously Alabama's in a much different
situation in twenty twenty four than they were in twenty
oh seven, two thousand and seven when Saban took over. Right,
but do you do you remember Alabama losing to Louisiana
Monroe And yes, yes do just wanted to make sure
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they had a four game losing streak where they lost
to l s U in Mississippi State, Louisiana Monroe, in Auburn.
So everybody was in Shula?
Speaker 3 (12:14):
Was it Shula? What coach?
Speaker 2 (12:18):
Went through?
Speaker 3 (12:19):
A real tough time there?
Speaker 2 (12:21):
Oh prior to Nick Saban? Yeah, you had Shula, you
had the bows. It was bad man.
Speaker 3 (12:28):
She was the one that lost to Louisiana Monroad, was
it not?
Speaker 2 (12:30):
No?
Speaker 3 (12:31):
Nick Saban was, Oh, get audio. So that was his
first year, That was his first year.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
Yeah, Mike Shula actually got fired and uh that's when
Joe Kines took over as head coach and gave that
great May he rest in peace, gave that great interview
whenever they were playing in the Liberty but the Independence
Ball against Okahoma State, they're going halftime like that, get
you out at my vote. But yeah no, that was
Nick Saban that lost to Louisiana Monroe.
Speaker 4 (12:56):
Goodness, the program is falling.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
Calm down, Bama fans, all right, college football, Penn State's
moving on. We'll have more on the playoff games tomorrow
coming up here.
Speaker 3 (13:08):
And just one final thing.
Speaker 4 (13:10):
You don't think you think the ratings are going to
be pretty low like all the other times it was
for New Year's Eve?
Speaker 2 (13:15):
Right, Yeah, I don't think there's I think I think
tomorrow's Oregon Ohio State game is going to be the
most watched college I think, and in fact, it might
be the most watched Rose Bawl. I don't want to
get two carried away here.
Speaker 3 (13:29):
Texas. Arizona State will be good too.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
I don't think so. I don't think anyone cares about
Arizona State, but especially you. I don't know why you're
trying to build up your art trival here. This has
just got to chap your backside, right, Look at Arizona
State spending all this money playing in the playoffs.
Speaker 4 (13:45):
It does bother me because we were that guy see
two years ago, and now we're not.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
When did you guys make the playoffs?
Speaker 3 (13:52):
Oh we haven't.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
Oh sorry about that? And what happened to your coach
after the great season? They had to sign a long
term extent they stick around at Arizona.
Speaker 3 (14:01):
He's dead to me. Who I don't even know that guy.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
Jedfish moved on to Washington.
Speaker 6 (14:08):
You don't.
Speaker 4 (14:09):
I don't think you should be listed as one of
the coaches on our you know, at University of Arizona.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
You don't think you should be included, even though he
gave you one of your best seasons. But miscellaneous, miscellaneous
in a non.
Speaker 3 (14:20):
Avira I sc that's all you put down.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
That's a he Spaniel and Chris Plank. We're sitting in
for Jason and Mike. You can traditionally and consistently find
us Sunday nights from ten p to one a Central time,
eleven to two way Eastern Time right here on Fox
Sports Radio.
Speaker 4 (14:33):
But Arizona State won't let you remember that we went
ten years without losing to them in a row in football. Yes,
what years was that? Nine to oh to one? We
were not We tied one game by a miracle for
some reason.
Speaker 2 (14:47):
Well, then you've got that. But as I've been taught
by a very famous person, the show's tonight.
Speaker 3 (14:53):
Show is tonight. Yes, so we got to talk about.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
Now. Happy New Year everybody. If you're out and about,
don't drink and drive. So many options, ride shairs, uber
Lyft had call a friend, get a taxi. Don't make
the worst mistake you can make for your life to
kick off what's supposed to be a rebirth and a
start for twenty twenty five. Do the thing that Alex
ty Shirt and Shay and Ernie and I would do,
(15:17):
uber Lyft. Whatever you take, don't drink and drive. And
I was talking to my daughter during the break. Do
you have any New Year's traditions? Like some people feel
like you need to eat black eyed peas as your
first food for the new year.
Speaker 4 (15:31):
On the right, Yeah, I usually pop the Martinelli's. But
my wife goes to bed at like.
Speaker 3 (15:37):
Right after we got home from dinner today. We went
out there for dinner, so she goes right to sleep.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
And uh, like five o'clock.
Speaker 3 (15:44):
Yeah, she she goes to bed at like three in
the afternoon.
Speaker 4 (15:47):
So no, sheriously she it's always she just goes right,
so'll fall asleep in a movie, TV shows so good,
she'll go to bed.
Speaker 3 (15:56):
Before she goes to bed, just a little nap.
Speaker 2 (15:59):
I don't blame her bad. I think we're kindred spirits,
Beth and our kindred spirits. Well, apparently here's something that
my daughter asked me about, the twelve grapes. Yeh, ty shirt, Shay,
aren't if you guys ever heard of the twelve grapes?
Speaker 3 (16:11):
No, I don't know what the hell you're talking about.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
Have you heard about this? Alex twelve grapes as a
tradition that you're supposed to eat on New Year's Eve?
Twelve grapes on New Year's Eve. The tradition originated in Spain,
but its spread widely. Each grape represents the twelve strikes
of the clock at midnight, as well as the twelve
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months ahead.
Speaker 3 (16:35):
Wow, really, what's interesting you said that?
Speaker 4 (16:37):
Is? After dinner, I went to the market to buy
myself some cupcakes. Huh, and there was two girls ahead
of me that were buying grapes.
Speaker 3 (16:44):
I was like, there you go, like, you look good,
but I don't want to fruit. I didn't want anything.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
January first is National Bloody Mary Day.
Speaker 3 (16:54):
I hate those things.
Speaker 4 (16:56):
I can have one, I can't have zero zero.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
Depend on how it's made.
Speaker 4 (17:02):
Are you like the time that Buddy Mary with like
a cheeseburger on it and shrimp and now sory and
all the full course menu on it?
Speaker 3 (17:11):
That makes me sick?
Speaker 2 (17:12):
I love Bloody Mary's.
Speaker 3 (17:13):
Are you remind me of like a smearinoff guy?
Speaker 2 (17:16):
He doesn't even know what that is? Yeah, okay, very good.
Here's another one.
Speaker 3 (17:24):
Apparently a great alcohol guy.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
Yeah he just straight up ever clear man. In Columbia,
there is the New Year's tradition of walking around with
an empty suitcase. Apparently, locals walk around their neighborhood carrying
an empty suitcase. The ritual, embraced, especially by those desiring
to travel board, signifies a year filled with globe trotting ahead.
Speaker 3 (17:52):
That here, I'm going to start that tradition here?
Speaker 2 (17:54):
Why not? The Filipino tradition of wearing polka dots is
apparently used to promote good luck and prosperity in the
new year, and another Filipino that is to eat round fruits.
Round fruit looks like a coin, and the sweetness of
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a fruit symbolizes sweet things in store in your life.
Speaker 3 (18:22):
I had a grape ruit for dessert yesterday.
Speaker 2 (18:24):
In Greece, people hang onions on their door on New
Year's Eve or day to promote health and longevity in
the new year.
Speaker 3 (18:33):
No, I want money, Let's see what was another?
Speaker 2 (18:36):
They say, light a candle. In Ecuador, there's a beloved
tradition called los agnos Viejos, in which people burn giant
dolls in order to get rid of bad energy, symbolically
an usher in new beginning.
Speaker 3 (18:55):
What is this the squid game? I think?
Speaker 2 (18:59):
And one more here? I got tons of And you've
never seen squid Game.
Speaker 3 (19:02):
I just watched the whole second season. I've been watched it.
It was horrible.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
You didn't like it?
Speaker 3 (19:07):
No, did not like it at all?
Speaker 2 (19:08):
Did you like the first season?
Speaker 3 (19:10):
Loved the first season?
Speaker 2 (19:11):
One more Brazilian tradition. You must wear white on New
Year's Eve.
Speaker 3 (19:17):
Oh I thought you have to get a Brazilian butt lift.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
No, no, no. Individuals may wear white on New Year's
Eve to represent peace and purification. At midnight, people also
jump over seven waves at the beach to offer their
respects to le Manga, the goddess of the sea, and rivers.
I got more of these all sprinkling.
Speaker 3 (19:40):
We're doing it all wrong here in the US.
Speaker 2 (19:42):
Yeah, apparently so our singing of all laid sign giving
a little kiss and then going to bed. I'm not
out supposed to be folks, not how it's supposed to be.
All right when we come back. Quite the controversy brewing
over decisions leading into the final week of the NFL
season to play are not to play? That's coming up next,
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Speaker 6 (21:25):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven
pm Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 2 (21:38):
With Arnie on plank In for Jason and Mike here
on Fox Sports Radio. Happy New Year, everybody you feel
older on the East Coast? How's all hell?
Speaker 3 (21:48):
You all right? Twenty twenty five?
Speaker 4 (21:52):
You would think that this was like some symbolic year,
but we didn't make it that way. You know, when
twenty twenty came around, or obviously to two thousand was
big time.
Speaker 2 (22:01):
You know, Oh are you kidding me? Hy two? K
did you? It's kind of funny you look back twenty
five years ago, right, you were in radio? Were you
in one on one sports? Then?
Speaker 3 (22:14):
I don't know where the hell I was twenty five
years ago.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
I was the program director at fourteen thirty, one of
our great affiliates in Tulsa. I was young. I was
twenty five years old. Wow, I just got oh, I'm
sorry A two thousand. I was getting married in June
to my first wife. Notice, I have to make sure
I clarify and say, first, I'm a radio guy. I'm
on number two. Okay, it happens. And at midnight everyone
(22:41):
was if you're a program director, oh.
Speaker 3 (22:43):
Yeah, I remember this.
Speaker 2 (22:44):
You had to be you had to be on edge,
right because everything was run by the computers. And what
was the big concern.
Speaker 4 (22:50):
From nineteen ninety nine to two thousand and Everything was
going to go crazy crazy because they won airlines and
bank accounts and everything.
Speaker 2 (22:59):
Everything was gonna be go on. And I'm sitting there
and I'm listening to it, and I'm at home and
we're not doing anything. I think we went to dinner
and now I wasn't quite filling in on anything yet
and I was just, you know, chilling. So we have
the radio on and I hear the ID hit, which
is the top of the hour for all your local
affiliates that let you know what you're listening to, and
(23:19):
it's like this is KTBZ touls and I'm like, yeah, okay,
it worked, and then Arnie the ID started playing over
and over and because I was.
Speaker 3 (23:27):
Just saying, nothing happen and all that was Bologney.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
It was all it was. It was. But here I
am clueless, right, young program director, new new guy, and
this thing is just playing over and over. Ill get
my wife. I'm like, we're doing something's going on here.
I don't know what's happening. You know, I've got to
try to vpn inn. But that, you know, that was
back in the day where it wasn't as easy as
it is now. And I remember thinking it's over. It's
(23:52):
I guess this is the start.
Speaker 3 (23:53):
It's fing apart.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
Thankfully, it was just something that got hung up. I
don't know that that was a turn that they told me.
And then it worked. Fine the rest.
Speaker 3 (24:02):
I think I was in Atlanta. I think that was
working there.
Speaker 2 (24:05):
You were in Atlanta in two thousand, Yeah, I think so.
I didn't even know you were in Atlanta. How long
were you in Atlanta?
Speaker 3 (24:12):
I was in Atlanta two years?
Speaker 2 (24:14):
Oh? Well, how about that?
Speaker 5 (24:16):
That?
Speaker 2 (24:16):
It was great?
Speaker 3 (24:16):
I got we had my that's my wife's favorite places. Atlanta.
Speaker 2 (24:20):
Really two whole years there. Then how did you end
up in Vermont?
Speaker 3 (24:24):
Oh? That's that was the end. And appear in Vermont?
Was my kid was playing hockey?
Speaker 2 (24:29):
Oh that's right.
Speaker 3 (24:29):
That's right.
Speaker 2 (24:30):
So if you're following the Arnie path, yes, it goes
like l It goes all over the New York to
La to Phoenix.
Speaker 4 (24:39):
There's a Dallas, Sago, couple of Chicago stops too.
Speaker 2 (24:44):
By the way. One of the New York traditions, and
I was very confused by that. I was learning about.
Since you've got some New York roots, smash a peppermint pig.
This tradition dates back to the nineteenth century and Saratogas Springs,
New York. Participants break a hard candy pig with a
hammer and share the pieces with those gathered round for
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good luck and cheer.
Speaker 3 (25:07):
We did that earlier today.
Speaker 2 (25:08):
Did we Okay, Well, I don't even know what a
peppermint pig is. But Mary New Year, everybody. You guys
have been great on the Twitter machine tonight. It's stinking
genius one. I'm at playing show. Everybody follow us at
Fox Sports Radio Nature Boy Rights. What I learned this
year is I'd rather watch someone build a diy gate
than watch an NBA game. I mean, I will say this.
(25:30):
HDTV is on in my house quite a bit because
of my family, and there have been times when I'm like,
you know what, I'll just watch this show about this
house being rainy built in the fourth quarter of this
thunder game. Warren Michigan, my buddy, Warren blanken Ship, Happy
New Year, Warren Michigan back to back against Ohio State
and Alabama, talk about chopping down some big trees. Milroe
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looked undeserving of the playoffs today, looked like the same
quarterback that played against Oklahoma. Wo that maybe we should
be bragging a little bit more about Michigan. What a
way to finish the season, right.
Speaker 4 (26:05):
Oh they give him credit offensively though after it was
sixteen nothing They didn't do squat.
Speaker 2 (26:10):
By the way, I want a correct a mistake I made.
I sent Michael Vick was at Delaware State. Incorrect, Nor is.
Speaker 3 (26:15):
It Norfolk State?
Speaker 4 (26:15):
So why would Tordio Gates Junior be going to deglaware.
Speaker 2 (26:20):
Be close to you? Maybe that's it. Maybe he heard
about the stinking genius up in that area. How far
are you from Delaware?
Speaker 3 (26:27):
I'm not sure.
Speaker 2 (26:28):
Hold on, let's know where that is.
Speaker 4 (26:30):
It's south of you, right, everything south of US CHRISTA.
Speaker 2 (26:35):
That's true. That's a good point. It's about an eight
hour drive. Okay, it not too terribly close. But I
don't know. Maybe I know this isn't a popular opinion,
but just because you're the son of a great player
doesn't necessarily mean that you're great.
Speaker 3 (26:49):
That's true.
Speaker 2 (26:50):
I mean I like Barry Sanders Junior a lot, and
it was unfair because he came out of high school
in Oklahoma City and went to Stanford and everyone's like,
you gotta go to Oklahoma State, Barry Sanders, kids, you're
gonna be great, and it's just, you know, it's hard
to live up to that.
Speaker 4 (27:03):
I was like, yeah, you're right, because he was such
a big name, he was mister college football, and very
rarely does that happen.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
You know, Paul Wrights. My favorite Alabama head coach is
Mike Price, who was hired in December of two thousand
and two and fired in May of two thousand and three.
If we're going to a strip club in Pensacola, Florida. Yeah,
here's the thing, though, You got to remember. The problem
wasn't that he went to a strip club. The problem
was that he put it on the company credit card.
(27:33):
That was the problem with Mike Price. Do you remember, Oh,
do I lose Arny DoD You remember that story?
Speaker 3 (27:40):
I remember the story.
Speaker 4 (27:41):
Yeah, But they don't fire you now for going to
a strip club, do they?
Speaker 2 (27:45):
Well, they did with they did with Hugh Freeze at
Ole miss. I guess that was a little bit more
in depth. Just if you don't use your company credit card,
it's not against the law to go to a strip club.
I'm just if you want to try to be holier
than now and you clutch your pearls at it and
the next night you're throwing dollars at Phoenix who's on
(28:07):
stage two, then yeah, you're a hypocrite, right, but you're
not necessarily breaking the law. So that was Yeah, that
was one of the dumbest things ever. And then, by
the way, Mike Price had a good run at UTAP,
really good coach at UTEP, and Paul did add I'm
substituting twelve grapes for twelve Miller lights.
Speaker 3 (28:27):
Oh there you go. That's a good. That's a good.
The consequence I like to think, so good one, I.
Speaker 2 (28:33):
Think so too. And then, mister Nobody, one more quick
one off the tweets tonight. Last year, FSU fans, as
myself had to hear Alabama say the committee got it
right because of FSU losing their bowl game. I wonder
how the BAMA field fans are enjoying that taste of
karma pie with losses to Vandy and OU who lost
(28:56):
to Navy sprinkled it. Hey, Hey, had a lot of
opt outs in our old game, mister Nobody, only fifty
six scholarship players, and twenty four of them were freshmen.
Speaker 4 (29:05):
Yeaheen in that gaume something seven drops a couple of
poor fourth down choices.
Speaker 2 (29:11):
Anyway, I digress. I'm not here to relive the.
Speaker 3 (29:13):
Armed Forces Bowl nor No, you can't do that.
Speaker 2 (29:16):
I think it's unfair to use the Florida State Bowl
performance from last year because they had so many opt outs.
Florida State go back to last year when they played
I think with Georgia when they played them, I mean
that was that was not even a shell of the
Florida State team that finished the regular season twelve and zero.
It was simple. They when they didn't get in the
(29:37):
playoffs and Jordan Travis goot hurt, everyone was like, peace out,
we're done, We're moving on. We've got NFL to think
about and maybe transfer Portal. So Alabama's different. Alabama had
a lot of its regular players play today, including Jalen
Milroe and Ryan Williams. Florida State last year did not,
but it did not stop anyone from saying, oh gosh,
(30:00):
glad they didn't go to the playoffs. Did just see
the score of that game? I want to say, it
was like really bad too. It wasn't like Georgia then
they beat him like fifteen to ten or something like that.
Speaker 3 (30:09):
It was just disgusting. It was bad.
Speaker 2 (30:11):
But I don't think that that I don't think that
that was fair to use that as a Hey, you
didn't belong to the playoffs because you lost that game.
All right, Arnie, we got some NFL to get to,
and I can't believe that college football has been so
hot in tonight with the Penn State win over Boise State,
that we've gone two and a half hours without hitting
any of the numeral topics involving the National Football League.
(30:32):
So allow me to start with one that is still
relevant from Monday Night football, even though we crossed into
twenty twenty five and into Wednesday. Dan Campbell made the
decision in a I guess it's fair to say meaningless
Monday night football game, to go ahead and play his
starters now. Just at the core of it, they won.
(30:53):
The game ended up being a pretty good game, but
you have a problem with the Lions in a meaningless
game going with their starters on Monday Night.
Speaker 3 (31:02):
I could say no right now.
Speaker 2 (31:04):
Because they won and no one got hurt, right.
Speaker 4 (31:05):
Exactly, But if somebody would have gotten hurt, I would
have been the first person that said, there going. How
stupid do you have to be to play your starters
in a game like that? Would have been absolutely nothing,
And the very next week you're playing in the big
game that means everything. You know, Chris all joking aside,
because if that would have happened, that's exactly what.
Speaker 3 (31:22):
I would have done.
Speaker 4 (31:23):
I would have called him an idiot for putting your
players at arms away in a.
Speaker 3 (31:27):
Scenario like this.
Speaker 4 (31:30):
This is completely different than the Kansas City Chiefs, who
will have twenty six days off.
Speaker 3 (31:34):
I believe Detroit should have.
Speaker 4 (31:36):
Rested their players and gotten ready for this weekend coming
up week eight team, because the game means everything, and
everything's on the line there. The game against San Francisco
meant nothing, and it was a good win, but at
the end of the day, it means nothing, and I'm
sure your players could have gotten the rest and used
the rest.
Speaker 2 (31:53):
Here's what Dan Campbell said about it afterwards.
Speaker 5 (31:55):
Yeah, it was on my mind, you know. I mean
I thought a lot about it, you know. I thought
about it leading up to the game. I thought about
it last night, I told the staff. But I ended
up settling on the right thing to do was play
these guys, and because we owed it to the team,
you know, and it was just one of those those
positions we were in. It's just hard to say who
(32:18):
you gonna sit, and it's not fair to ask guys
to play that haven't been prepared to play, you know.
Speaker 2 (32:24):
That was the common that Jeff Schwartz right, Oh, is
that what it was? I spotted to you. He's like, listen,
I was one of those guys, and I didn't care.
I wanted to play.
Speaker 4 (32:32):
If Kibs goes down and then you lose two running
backs for the rest of the year, your season's done.
Your quarterback goes down, your season's done, Saint Brown goes done.
Your chances the Super Bowl is probably out the window.
Speaker 3 (32:43):
So many things.
Speaker 4 (32:44):
And it was on the road in San Francisco, which
is a tough place to play. Whether San Francisco is
a good team or not. Wouldn't have taken that chance. Now,
Kansas City, that's a whole nother story. I may play
my players this weekend against Denver if i'm Kansas City
because they have so much time off.
Speaker 2 (33:02):
Here was one more from Dan Campbell. Were you were
you nervous during the game about playing your guys.
Speaker 5 (33:08):
We grew out here, we prepared this way, we came
out to win, and uh and that's ultimately what it
came to. And yeah, you do you cross your fingers.
Nobody gets hurt. I mean, it's tough, and we were fortunate,
you know, we got.
Speaker 3 (33:20):
Out very fortunate.
Speaker 4 (33:23):
So with that in mind, we've been calling you a
knucklehead right now, if somebody got hurt till.
Speaker 2 (33:28):
The end of time. There is nothing official from the Chiefs,
but I can't fathom they're going to play anyone on
Sunday right.
Speaker 3 (33:37):
Oh, it's official based on the line.
Speaker 2 (33:39):
It's official base online, which is is it still ten?
Speaker 3 (33:42):
Up to ten?
Speaker 2 (33:43):
Now?
Speaker 4 (33:43):
It was nine when we were doing the show on
Sunday when it first came out, Chris, I remember it
was nine, and now it's up to ten.
Speaker 3 (33:51):
So money's coming in on Denver.
Speaker 2 (33:53):
If If Andy Reid comes out and says we're going
to go ahead and play our stars, how quickly does
that line move?
Speaker 3 (34:03):
It will I mean, it will never move towards a
pickup game. If that's what you're asking.
Speaker 2 (34:07):
Well, I'm just asking how far do you think it
would move? Because again, let's remember, let's remember just for
context right now, right Andy, and he doesn't have to
and I don't think he will, And you only have
eight spots for guys you can truly make inactive, and
then whether or not you play them if they're in
uniform is another decision. But if you're Andy Reid, you
(34:31):
don't have to say anything. Everything about them not playing
their starters. I'm just giving this for context. I'm not
saying I think they're gonna play. But it's been a
CBS report from Jonathan Jones and reports that sound like this.
The assumption around the league is that Kansas City is
not going to play starters. There's been nothing out of
Kansas City yet. But the line, as you said, went
(34:51):
from Kansas City being a four point favorite to Denver
being an eleven point favorite.
Speaker 4 (34:56):
Right right, it would go down to probably like four
still with Denver's the favorite.
Speaker 3 (35:02):
Yes, with Denver still be in the favorite.
Speaker 2 (35:05):
Do you play any of your starters if you're in
a position like the Rams or the Steelers where you're
in and it's about it's about positioning, right, It's about
moving up or down a spot five, six or seven
I think for the Steelers, four or three for the Rams.
Speaker 4 (35:23):
Yes, you want to move up, so you play your
players for the positioning. Also, the only reason I said
that maybe play Kansas City is going to have twenty
six days off. If you don't play them, then they'll
have If you do play them, then they'll have a
nineteen days off or something to that effect. That's plenty
of time. I twenty six can really bring in the rust.
I think that's too many days off. No reason to
(35:45):
give him that many days off.
Speaker 2 (35:47):
Josh Allen apparently is going to play to keep his
start streak intact.
Speaker 3 (35:53):
Well, look at Philadelphia's playing their starters. But there's a
reason why.
Speaker 2 (35:56):
Well allegedly, right, they still haven't made that decision.
Speaker 4 (35:59):
They're gonna go. Well, they want Barkery to break the record.
Speaker 2 (36:03):
Is so it's official, they're gonna do that.
Speaker 3 (36:06):
I thought it was. I I just assumed it was
gonna be official.
Speaker 2 (36:09):
Because the last I saw is that Sirianni was gonna
talk to team captains and everyone involved to see whether
or not they're gonna make that move because he wants
to play. He wants to break the record. But if
Saquon Barkley, and again I know we're talking about disaster scenarios,
but if Saquon Barkley goes down, when Jalen Hurts is
already down, Kenny Pickett's already heard, you're starting Tanner McKee
(36:32):
on Sunday, I mean that's I don't know. I mean
that just seems really risky.
Speaker 4 (36:37):
Mike, Dolphins have no chance of going to the playoffs,
do they I don't know.
Speaker 2 (36:40):
All you've told me is that they're going to playoffs
for the last three weeks. Why would you bail out now?
Speaker 4 (36:45):
Because all I needed was Kansas City to win and
now I feel like they're not gonna win.
Speaker 2 (36:50):
Well, you needed Kansas City to win, and then you
needed to beat the Jets.
Speaker 3 (36:53):
Well that's over already. That's done.
Speaker 2 (36:55):
Even without two as your quarterback, I could beat the quarterback. Well,
I don't know about that, but I wonder if the
Jets might not play Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 3 (37:05):
No, he'll play.
Speaker 2 (37:07):
They pulled him out of the game last week. Yeah,
I'm sorry. He pulled himself out of there.
Speaker 3 (37:12):
Because he has to get He has four hundred ninety
nine touchdowns.
Speaker 2 (37:15):
Oh he has to get. Oh that's right. Edie wants
that five hundredth to beat Davonte Adams, right right right.
So well, anyway, we'll see exactly and no one has
to report anything. I'm just gonna make that very clear.
No one has to come out and say we're not
playing our starters. No one has to do that. Follow
the Vegas lines and keep an eye on whether or
not you see a situation play out where someone might
(37:37):
change their mind and decide they weren't gonna play, but
now they're gonna give him a shot when we come back,
Your text, your tweets, your reaction right here on Fox
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Speaker 6 (37:47):
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Speaker 2 (37:54):
All right, it's Arnie and Plank coming to you live
from the tire rack dot Com studios, sitting in for
Jason and Mike. Boy. This show is flying by tonight.
Speaker 3 (38:05):
Oh quick, one quick show.
Speaker 2 (38:07):
Oh I forgot Bill Krackenberger is going to join us
next hour in our second segment.
Speaker 3 (38:12):
Oh is he gonna be crabby or what?
Speaker 2 (38:14):
Why? What do you think?
Speaker 3 (38:17):
He's in a one of those knockout pools?
Speaker 2 (38:19):
Uh huh?
Speaker 3 (38:20):
And he had the colts?
Speaker 2 (38:24):
Ooh ooh? How much was on the line? Do you know?
Speaker 3 (38:28):
Fourteen point six million million?
Speaker 2 (38:31):
Yeah, yeah, I'd be crabby too. Would he win all
of it?
Speaker 3 (38:35):
No? No, no, no, no, fourteen point six million. There was
forty five teams left. But after.
Speaker 4 (38:43):
Put it this way, after last week and then this week,
you know, but you can only take certain teams that
you ever used before.
Speaker 3 (38:49):
Blah blah blah.
Speaker 4 (38:50):
The probably would have only been about ten teams left
when it was all said and done. They actually had
a good route to the finish. So they had to
do was get by the Colts. They ended up losing
to the Giants. Bill bought it.
Speaker 3 (39:04):
I heard him.
Speaker 4 (39:05):
We could ask him about this when he comes on,
but he yeah, twenty percent of a team, and we
were trying to figure out and he was talking about
how much it was worth at this point. But it's
all moot now, but I think at the before the
game started it was.
Speaker 3 (39:17):
Worth like a couple of hundred thousand dollars. Three hundred
thousand dollars for him.
Speaker 2 (39:22):
Well that's a big difference from fourteen point six million.
Speaker 3 (39:25):
Well that's the number.
Speaker 4 (39:26):
Well, that's there's still two weeks left. Though, I remember
he was only at twenty percent buy in for the team.
Everybody else, I'm sure that money Yeah, okay.
Speaker 2 (39:34):
Well fair enough, but stupid Colts. I mean that was
when you lose your biggest supporter like they've lost Pat McAfee.
I don't think there's a he's coming back. Yeah, that was,
and every point he made was great. Hey, you would
mention in Roman numeral number four for tonight's show as
we kind of have moved on past the Fiesta Bowl
where pen State won at thirty one to fourteen. Pen State,
(39:56):
by the way, is now eight to no in Fiesta
Bowls in their school's history. Wild random stat but you
had mentioned in Roman numeral four the top pick in
the draft now Pete at Republic Pete seventy six. Hit
us up on X with this great question do you go?
Do you guys believe should or Sanders will pull an
Eli Manning and not go to any other team than Vegas.
(40:19):
Unpopular opinion, but I don't think his game will translate
to the NFL. You think should War is the top pick.
Speaker 4 (40:27):
I did send you a mock draft, by the way,
I don't know if you saw that they didn't have
Sanders as the top three picks. And I do think
he's gonna pull something. I don't know if it's him
or his father's gonna pull something. If like he goes
I'm just picking a team to Titans or wherever. If
he goes to a place that he doesn't want to
(40:48):
go to, then I think he'll be pulling some Shenanigans,
unless it's like the Giants or Las Vegas.
Speaker 3 (40:53):
But I do think he'll do something.
Speaker 4 (40:55):
The mock draft I had you, uh, I sent you
had McMillan the wide receive out of Arizona going number one.
Speaker 2 (41:01):
Yeah, I saw that, but you know that was just
that that Twitter feed. That was the PFF College doing
their own drag.
Speaker 3 (41:08):
Jam Ward number two.
Speaker 2 (41:10):
I if anyone's gonna go number one, maybe maybe McMillan.
Wide receivers don't go number one. It just doesn't happen.
But I sure could see New England falling in love
with Travis Hunter. All Right, when we come back to
the tyrack dot com studios, let's talk week eighteen next
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