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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 1 (00:30):
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(00:54):
Happy New Year, the guy. We're all back together now,
everybody's here. I've had my time off and my break
breaks over. Ready to go.

Speaker 3 (01:01):
Yeah, a lot of derision on walking into the studio
like we were. It was a surprise party or something
that we crashed.

Speaker 1 (01:08):
But here we are, Hey, champion. Holiday holidays, let's be over.
Holiday holidays are over, okay, Now we're just back to
the grind. Okay, the holidays are over right, it's crappy
holidays anyway, It all over. No, No, you didn't.

Speaker 3 (01:22):
You know you missed your your shifts of spinning the
wheel to keep the lights on.

Speaker 1 (01:29):
I gotta say, you know, this is the the most
I'll say this before we get into before you Notre
Dame and Georgia today. Uh, the most amazing part of
vacation was going back to Detroit for holidays. You know
Pam's families in Detroit. We go back. Did you get
your ass kicked? No? No, they love me back there.

(01:49):
You can't, dude, they love me in Michigan.

Speaker 3 (01:52):
This was in February. It might be a different story
if it now. He's okay, if it.

Speaker 1 (01:56):
Was a little warmer, I would wear my brand new
grit T shirt that Pam's family got me. All the
that's that that those are everywhere in Michigon. That that's
the whole thing. That's what I want to get to,
is that going back to Detroit, like I've been going
back to now for thirty years, right, and when we
start going back in the mid nineties, everybody was red
Wings crazy, right, red Wings. They went to Stanley Cup,
they won four Stanley cups. Everybody's wearing Red Wings gear, right,

(02:17):
and a bunch of jerseys and shirts with federalf Yeah, yeah, yeah,
I got no, we'll get We'll get there. We'll get there.
And then and then after the Red Wings dynasty kind
of folded. Everything is and has been University of Michigan
for twenty some odd years. Every third person wears something

(02:40):
University of Michigan all the time. I have any run
of sparty with people people once in a while, but
no everything like whether you went to the school or not,
Like Michigan is the biggest business in the state. University
of Michigan. Everybody wears Michigan gear. I went when we
went back this time, and and there's certain gear that
I've never seen people wear. It was unbelievable because every

(03:03):
single person I saw is wearing Lions gear. Every single person.
They're wearing Lions jerseys, they're wearing Lions hoodies, they're wearing
the and I even bought one. Like the local businesses
that are that are selling like like a Lion's sweatshirt
with their logo on it with the boom people are
people are getting those. You can't get those like you
went in. You go into stores like a local business.

(03:25):
Oh you have that lions hoodie? No, we sold out
of those. I went in.

Speaker 3 (03:28):
Local businesses that logo down have no licensing, agreed.

Speaker 1 (03:33):
I went into Pizza King, right. Pizza King is this
great local pizza shop restaurant that's They've got a bunch
of wall around Detroit, right, But but it's all it's
all in Detroit, and they have these great pizza rolls
and pepperoni rolls have been going there forever. So I
go there to pick up the food. Like they say, hey,
the food's right. I said, I'll go get it. I'll
get it. Don't worry, I'll go get it. So I
go get I go into Pizza King and everything is

(03:54):
decorated for the hollow. Everybody's lines lions everywhere, and right
right at the register are these hats and they're silver
and and blue and they say Pizza King on him
on the front and they're scullies Pizza King on the
front with a lion's helmet. And I'm like, oh wow,
I go, hey, can I get this? And the guy goes, oh,
come on, I go to this. I haven't even got
one yet. We just got these we're gonna sell out

(04:14):
like ten minutes. I go, well, I better go and
how much? And he goes it's twenty bucks. I go, yeah,
me give me that, give me that. He goes, oh man,
and then he yells back. He goes, I sold the
first one, like apparently they had justly. Like I said,
when'd you get him? He goes, like twenty minutes ago?
And so this is me going in like at two
o'clock on a Thursday. You know, it's like when when

(04:36):
they're not really busy. I go in and I come
back with that. I walk in, pass me on. He goes,
where did you get that? I go, where'd you think?
I got a pizza king? This is pizza king on
him and and and my cousin How deep in the
bag were they? After ask that question, who has sent
you in the afternoon? Where'd you get that? It's my
cousin who's thirty five? Right away said which pizza king
did you go to? And he grabs his keys. I

(04:58):
go the one on fiddle down here, I'll be back
and he left. He left the party because he wanted
to go buy a pizza king at like this is
how people, This is how much Lions gear. People are
buying and it's insanely fun. I'll tell you no, I hey,
I was the one that believed in them before everybody
else believed them. I had him in the super Bowl
last years from the line I did not. That was

(05:18):
Dan Campbell deciding, well, you know, fourth down, let's go
for it, just because you know we can. Oh no, no,
they love me, man, They loved me there and I
got it. I got the grit Dan Campbell T shirt.
That's the best. I'll wear that tomorrow. I wear the grip.

Speaker 3 (05:30):
We didn't have a camera on him, like I tried
to uh commission one, but the holiday rates were a
little too much.

Speaker 1 (05:36):
Did you have a sit down shot with Montgomery? No? No, no, no,
you apologize. I kept a low profile when it came
to David Montgomery. I kipt a low profile that you
talked to him, not that Pam's family. Did Pam rank
you out that you talked to him? Oh they all knew.
Oh no, they all text me the next day, dude,
you tell you talk to you talk to Knuckles? Said yeah,
he talked to Knuckles and then he got hurt. I said,

(05:57):
it's not my fault. They go it's your fault. I go, Okay,
I feel bad, But did you put him along the
list with all those college coaches their heads that are
that are up on the boarding pikes because of talking
to us when undefeated keep on keeping on. Yeah, we lose,
I said, you have to admit the offense is maybe

(06:17):
even better than Jamior Gibbs is getting the ball more. No, no,
we need knuckles like no, I understand that, and I
feel bad, but I didn't hurt him. I didn't hurt
we interviewed him. No, we did. But no, but they
were a little mad. But they but they're still winning
and beating the Niners when when it was a game
that they didn't really have to have because it's call
coming down the weird week obviously. Yeah. Uh that was

(06:39):
that was like, okay, everything is fine. Like if they
lost that game, I think then maybe I would have
been in trouble.

Speaker 3 (06:43):
How much cambeling would have been done if a couple
of principal guys got hurt? Man, you want to talk
because we were here. I was in with Dan Byer
on Monday. Uh as we we did some I watch
a Flex and all this stuff, and it was like
the perty question because you gotta pay him a bunch
of money, right, what if he gets well on the
other side, any guy. I mean, obviously you don't have
a ninety man roster like kids college.

Speaker 1 (07:05):
But it's like then these guys get hurt. Man, that's
not Campbell.

Speaker 2 (07:08):
Yeah, of course.

Speaker 3 (07:10):
Look, and Knuckle's already down if old Sonic had taken
one to the rib gage.

Speaker 1 (07:14):
And I said, and Pam's uncle is the biggest. He's
the biggest died in the wool Detroit sports fan his
whole life, right, Like I can talk about the Tigers
from the sixties, he's about he's about ten years older
than nin I can talk about the Tigers teams from
the late sixties, the Red Wings of the nineties. Ever
he's read. He's just the four main teams, right, the
Pistons not so much because I haven't been good in

(07:35):
like thirty years, but but all these teams. And he
and he said to me, sor right, So what do
you think is Super Bowl or what like? It's one
of those where I'm gonna sit down with you for
you give me five minutes at the party. Yeah, sure,
I said that. Okay, So what do you think when
we winning the super Bowl and I said, well, I'll
tell you what I said on the radio. He said
what And I said, we're gonna be talking about the
end of the line season because Dan Campbell makes a

(07:57):
ridiculous decision X that they didn't have to make and
they lost the game because of it. And then he
stabbed you in his hand with a sat there and
he sat there, he said, he said that happens, I
will make sure you never eat white Castle again. And
I was like, whoa, whoa, whoa section down the street.

(08:18):
He might find a way, you might find out. He
sat there like the dawn like, he sat back, So
you will never eat White Castle again. I was like,
oh okay, but I had to tell him the truth.

Speaker 3 (08:28):
I mean, that's just a threat to the White Castle
business and it's a threat to your your.

Speaker 1 (08:32):
Health said, what are they trying to do? Put him
out of business? I guess you want to sit here
and light to you. I'm not gonna lie to him.
It's what I think. The Lions are great. But boy,
Campbell's gonna Campbell. He's gonna be cambelling. I know you
did that cambelling thing. I didn't know you went this
far with it, like Okay, I'm gonna okay, don't yell
at me now.

Speaker 3 (08:46):
I'm gonna say you can't let a guy get away
with threats like that though, threaten your personal.

Speaker 1 (08:53):
I mean, I mean I was. I was wearing the
Pizza King hat while I was talking, so I mean
I wore that thing the entire I should have wanted
to work tonight. That's a great looking hat. Man. It's
it's it's it's it's just how do I say this
the right way? It's just uh, it's just it's just
just this much not cheesy. I'd be cool like that

(09:14):
the way you were struggling for the word, like where's
he gonna go this? It's like, where's he getting like
this much not cheesy to be cool? Like all the
Pizza King Lions hat? And I was like, ah, it's
the first thing people saying this, dude, where'd you get
that hat? Where'd you get that hat? I'm like, I
could have gone on eBay and sold in the Greater
Detroit area. Hey, piz King hat paid twenty dollars asking
five hundred boom buy it now five hundred dollars. Could

(09:34):
have done that on eBay.

Speaker 3 (09:36):
Well, it's not a bad looking. I mean cause it's
actually the crown, right, Well.

Speaker 1 (09:40):
It's a Sculley, It's it's it's Scully. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah,
but I just look it up. So it's the silver.
The band across as the silver. The PiZZ King logo
is Wait, but when it's a low is it a
slice of pizza? Is it the crown? It's the it's
the crown and it actually says pizza king. Okay, yeah,
no way, yeah no, that was the best man. That's
not a bad looking act. Then that was a bad
And the other thing is I said, hey, I brought

(10:02):
you all good luck because the way Michigan just you know,
I was able to have no offense and still beat
Alabama in the bull game. And they said, Jaln Milrose,
I've had enough. I'm going to the NFL. I've had
enough to losing to Michigan end of the season. I'm
going to the NFL. Now, I'm done. Now I'm finished
here in Alabama.

Speaker 3 (10:16):
Well that means he did his evaluations and Nick came
back with positive notes or someone just said it can't
get any better.

Speaker 1 (10:24):
See mysel. You know, look, I so go. We got
a lot of college football to get to and we'll
get to uh, Notre Dame and their big win today
over Georgia in a few minutes. But I'll just say
this because Jalen Miller announced he's going to the NFL today.
And why because coming off of that game. Honestly, this

(10:45):
is what I thought watching that game. I said, he's
hurt and for some reason they haven't pulled him from
this game because that was the absolute worst I have
ever seen him play. And I thought he got hurt
in the first half and he was trying to play
through an injury because he couldn't throw the he wasn't
seeing the field. Well, he was absolutely terrible. I said,
how do you go to the NFL off this game?

(11:05):
You're already a second round pick. How do you're gonna
see this game? And this is a Michigan defense where
everybody opted out. I think guys from the seventies were
coming back to play. I mean really, I think Dan
Dierdorf was playing and he went to the other side
of the ball. I mean, this was it. This is
Michigan defense where everybody out, the defensive tackle's gone. Will
Johnson got these guys who never played all year, and
Milrow looked awful. And now you see the video that

(11:28):
comes out today that he was tipping the plays where
he was lined up for the passing plays with one
foot behind him, and I'm like, that's easy steal. That's
not even a legal stealing. That's on. You don't need
Connor Stalling to say, hey, it's a pass play when
he's got one foot backboards in a running play, when
he's standing with his feet level Like, I can't get
over the fact that he was going. I thought for
sure because you could see how frustrated, how pissed Alabama

(11:51):
was with him during this game. They're screaming at him
when he can't get him the football. When a seventeen
year old kid is screaming out, you're not get the football,
And I thought for sure he's got a transfer. He's
gonna he's you know what he's got to do. He's
got to hit the portal and go because Alabama's gonna
be happy to see him go, and another team will
love to get whether it's USC or somewhere else. He
has to go because he's not there, and that's why
he went to the NFL. I am sure there's there's

(12:12):
certain cases where guys jump to the NFL because they
know if I stay, I might not be the quarterback.
I don't know if I want to go someplace else.
So one said, I'll jump to the NFL. Guys that
do that it never works out for him. And I
love the guy. Milroe is a phenomenal player, and he's
everything you want a college football athlete to be. All
the stuff he does outside of the outside of the
game and the charity work he does, and he's got

(12:32):
two degrees already in four years. I mean, he's what
he wants to be. But this is a guy that
jumps to the NFL. Like when you go there because
you think you might lose your job in college. You're
not ready. Man.

Speaker 3 (12:42):
Well, but the other thing that might be be in
play here is that's always remember. As much as we
want to talk about it being just Shador Sanders and
cam Ward, desperation creeps in in April, right, and there's
a matter of rising. It's just a all right, let's
go back and instead of evaluating things by what a
team should do, they go and they look at the

(13:06):
quarterback room and they say, you think we need one more?
They go full oceans eleven. Can we make this guy,
our guy. Can he become a starter for us and
for Jalen Milroll. He'll be one of those guys this year.
Because we always end up with a handful of quarterbacks.
Doesn't mean it's always right, doesn't mean it always ends
up well. But that would be my guess is looked

(13:27):
at the evaluation a at Alabama. Was he getting along
with the coordinator and his head coach?

Speaker 1 (13:33):
Maybe not?

Speaker 3 (13:33):
And if he's tipping stuff that easily, yeah, no, that's
gonna lose you out pretty fast. But look, and they
got throtted. They just got run over and beat up
by a team with the opt outs, as you mentioned.
But the second part of transferring, Like, do I want
to go through that again, I've already got a couple
of degrees, I've already done all this stuff. No, I
don't want to beat that guy, grad transfer part two,

(13:54):
all that stuff. I don't want to go through another system.
So you go to the NFL and you're gonna end
up hooking on with the team. Would we have another
sixty quarterback year?

Speaker 1 (14:03):
Yeah, but you gonna get his job. Is he ever
gonna get a chance to be a starting quarterback? Certain
guys in third round? Yeah? But he's gonna get a
real chance, not like, Hey, we're gonna Taylor the offense
around you. You're our guy, You're on question number one. Guy,
You're gonna get the whole season, Like is that gonna
happen for him? He needed to up his stock and
and come back for next year. But we'd seen enough
the big loser of the of the bowl season so far,

(14:25):
he is the biggest loser. No, No, that's the SEC.
What are you talking about so much? Don't listen to
Herb Street and those guys. The SEC exit up about
a Fresco exit swalling down? The band back together here
Fox Sports Radio, The Jason Smith Show with my best
friend Mike Carmon coming up next, No Tredame moves on
in the college football Playoff. We will tell you the
decision that Kirby Smart is gonna be up late for

(14:48):
the next fifteen years of his life thinking why did
I do that? Today? That's next rid here Jason and
Mike Fox.

Speaker 2 (14:57):
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Speaker 1 (15:09):
Fox Sports Radio Jason Smith Show with my best friend
Mike Harmon, live Fromthetireck dot Com Studios. Now, I do
want to say this before we get into Notre Dame
in Georgia, just for a second. Yeah, so my dad
said the F word to me for the first time

(15:30):
really in years. Yeah. But yeah, then that's the word.
That's the way he said. We were not talking about
Aaron Rodgers said.

Speaker 3 (15:40):
And blank, you two you could have talked about both
those guys quite aits.

Speaker 1 (15:43):
But yeah. So you see, right before New Year's someone
put onto it. I forget who it was, and it
started to take off. Where if you start watching Game
five of the World Series, Oh yeah, at ten thirty
four and thirty at ten thirty four to thirty seconds,
you can I'm the ball dropping out of Aaron Judge's
glove at midnight when the clock strikes midnight, and I'm like,

(16:06):
oh my god, that's so great. Right, So I said
it to us, said it to Frostburg. That's good. I
send it to my dad, and I said it to
Michael Fabiano, right. Fabiano wrote back, blank A blank to me.
My dad physically said to me, don't blank and send
me blank like that, anymore. Finally, Yeah, I think, yeah,

(16:29):
all the all the all the Yankee jokes, all the
different uh stickers you can get for your car. Now
with the with the fifth inning score bug when it's
five nothing, Dodger's batting top. Oh, you can get a
couple of magnetic ones and put him on his car. Yeah, yeah,
I didn't think about that's a great idea. Yes, I'm
absolutely gonna do that. But when I said him that,
he called me and said, don't blank and send me

(16:51):
blank like that. So I think he's done. I think
he's done with that part. I think he's done. That's great.
I realized this is how far I could push him,
and that's how far I've pushed him with the World
Series gets very emotional, you know, mainly because this was
you know why, because Judge is his guy. Sure, so
like all the other time, you know, but Judge, I
mean to Oh, it was easy to blame everybody else

(17:12):
for everything else, or the relief pitching whatever it was. Yeah,
but then I went after, hey, you see the ball
drop it, don't blank it.

Speaker 3 (17:19):
But again, just like you know, the the famous Bartman
Moise Alop play from two thousand and three with Cubs.
A lot of other crap had to happen for it
to really melt down as bad as that was, like that,
that is.

Speaker 1 (17:33):
Not it, you know when the Bartman play happened, and
for all these years later still part of baseball lore.
Like you had a normally gifted shortstop boot to ground ball,
you had Mark Pryor jumping up and down like a
five year old who was told he couldn't have a snack.
I mean, all of these things that that piled up,
likewise would judge, Yeah, the fly ball was terrible. It

(17:54):
was not the only piece brow cover first base, you know,
run to first base like all those things it was,
But that was when that opened the door was closed,
and that opened the door just a little bit, just
a little bit, like that when when the zombies come in, Okay,
if they can't get in the door, Okay, if you
open the door a little bit, the zombies are they
just can't give him the space. The zombies are leading
anything to the judges. You can't, you can't. You gotta

(18:16):
take care of your business. He was, so do send
me blank and blank like but I'm abstoually gonna want
to get one of those window clings.

Speaker 2 (18:22):
And put him on.

Speaker 1 (18:23):
So you were a little slow in opening any box
you got from No, I made I made sure it
was after like, this is for New Year's Yeah, okay, okay,
I said it. I said, you know, I sent it
to him. I sent it to him on his birthday. Wow.
Because my dad was born in the thirtieth and I
always say the Holy Trinity, Sandy Cofax, Lebron James and

(18:46):
Tiger Woods and my dad on the earth. Yeah and
so so I said that. So I did it on
his birthday. I said, every birthday. Boy, then you have
a guy doing a double double murd at him. Oh,
my son, I have no son. But earlier today we
watched Notre Dame advance the final four of the college

(19:07):
football Playoff. They beat Georgia twenty three to ten. Looked
like Georgia was going to keep it close, and when
they scored that touchdown, but Notre Dame's defense is able
to ride it out. They win the game that was
obviously was postponed after the tragic terrorist attack in New
Orleans of a day before. All our thoughts, of course,
are with the family and the people in New Orleans
and throughout as we try to make sense and make

(19:29):
sure something like this doesn't happen again. But look, this
is what you listen to us for for distraction from that,
We're going to talk about the football game. And look,
this is a game where if I'm Kirby Smart, this
is what I lay on my bed and I stare
up at the wall for probably the next ten years
thinking about is that Notre Dame played a really good

(19:50):
game and Georgia played better than I thought they would
considering you have a backup quarterback who was coming in
and it's been a real time of flux because Carson
Beck not only is hurt and he's out, he's also
declaring for the NFL draft. Here comes Gunner Stockton, who
threw the ball well. Georgia dropped a lot of passes.
They dropped a ton of passes, but this game was

(20:11):
still there for them. And this is the decision that
I just don't get. This is a defensive and this
is where you have to read the room and understand
that this is the way the game is going and
it's not in one of those Hey, it's it's thirty
five thirty one going a halftime. Notre Dame kicks a
field goal to go up six to three. Right before halftime,
they kicked the ball off to Georgia and there's thirty

(20:33):
seconds before halftime. Okay, this is when you go to halftime.
You sometimes you just we have to get to halftime.
It's six ' three. We've dropped all, you know, but
but hey, let's get let's get a break. And it's
not that always you come up with halftime adjustments and
fix things, but it's just get a break. Catch your breath.
Because I'm a firm believer that with a lot of
athletes when when a game is going sometimes you just

(20:55):
need a few minutes to yourself and you time to
to the game to slow down a bit. Then get
back out there the second half. Go to halftime. If
you would scored twenty one points in the first half,
I would say thirty some odd seconds. Go down the field,
try to get their kick a field goal, right, try
to tie the game. But it's six to three. You're
not scoring. Okay, you're not scored. For whatever reason, you're
not scoring on this Notre Dame defense, they're playing extremely well.

(21:18):
Go to halftime, because the odds of you getting from
your own twenty five yard line into field goal position
is not gonna happen, right, it's not gonna happen. Go
to halftime, make the smart play, because disaster is what lurks,
because you're gonna try to push the ball down the
field when you haven't done that in the first half.
And what happens You watched stocked and get sacked. Notre

(21:39):
Dame jumps on the football. Next play is a touchdown
pass and that's it. Effectively, that was the game because
it was thirteen to three at that point. Of course,
you get the big kickoff return by Notre Dame to
start the second half as well, but that thirteen to three,
that was the game because that was the point where
I said, that's too much offense for Georgia to overcome.
They're not playing well. They're not gonna suddenly go crazy

(22:00):
the second half. Hopefully they start holding onto the football
a little bit more, but that deficit is too much.
You gotta keep sometimes going a halftime as the smartest thing.
And when it's a defensive struggle, go to halftime, go
to the odds that you're gonna get down there. Oh,
they'll play a little bit looser. Maybe they'll be a
little bit looser and play a little bit more back. No,
the odds are that something worse is going to happen

(22:20):
if they ran the ball, went to halftime. No, youre
name's not calling time out. Okay, you want to go
to halftime, we'll go to halftime. We're up six three,
we'll go to halftime. But no, And that was the killer.
That was the killer decision because that needed to be
a better decision by Kirby Smart. Okay, here's the way.
The scope of the game is going six to three. Okay,
we've played poorly, but in the end, nothing awful. Right,

(22:40):
we're down by a field goal. We got a whole
half of football, we got incredibly talented players here in
the locker. We're ready to go. But instead let's try
to push it for a ridiculously stupid reason, and disaster happen.
And that was the game.

Speaker 3 (22:51):
That play was the game. Defense giving up six points,
you're not moving the football well. Both teams finished with
fewer than three hundred total yards for the game. Even
in all the postgame Riley Leonards like, you know, this
was not our best, not a clean game, pretty choppy
and all the way through, but making the big plays
as it mattered but your defense if your Georgia hadn't

(23:12):
done everything you could, and you'd watch the aggressiveness from
Notre Dame's defense, they weren't suddenly gonna back off like
they smell blood in the water and we're gonna come
after gunner every chance that they had. I mean, you
saw it, even running through the punter multiple times right
off the jump. How those aren't personal files?

Speaker 1 (23:31):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (23:31):
I know letter versus spirit of the law, and I
was incredulous and put it up on X and folks
are like, no.

Speaker 1 (23:37):
No, this is the rule. Like I understand what the
rule is.

Speaker 3 (23:39):
But if the guy still runs through you pretty violently,
normally it's a touch thing and they're falling all over
each other, and you'd say, ah, no harm. No file
here was pretty violent. But either way, that set the
tone of how Notre Dame was going to approach this game,
and they were certainly gonna make it difficult for you.
See if they couldn't force a very quick possession or

(23:59):
as they ultimately did, a turnover and the quick strike
to extend the lead. And at that point, yeah, now
it's pressing. Now you talk about pinning your ears back
as a defense and you didn't even have the ability
to go out and defend with just that deficit because
of the kickoff return. It's like, oh wow, now this
really just went to hell, right, seventeen points in fifty

(24:21):
four seconds of game time. You want to talk about
making your head spin. This is worse than dropping a
fly ball if you're earned judge.

Speaker 1 (24:29):
Now my dad is going, hey, wait a minute, I
thought I was catching strays for a few minutes ago.
Why am I catching strays now?

Speaker 3 (24:34):
I Understandah, you know what, I had to come back
around to cull to sec.

Speaker 1 (24:38):
I mean that that play was the game. That's where
it got out of reach for Georgia because they're not
playing as look as good as Stockton played, and he's
playing better than you than I expected him to play.
They had a lot of drops hit some things. You
have to understand. This notre name defense is really really good,
and you're not gonna You're not gonna have a game.
This is not gonna be a thirty eight to thirty
five second half where hey the second half, all of

(24:59):
a sudden, teams just going up and down the field
like it's nothing. You have to understand it's a six
to three game, very game flow. This is the game flow.
It is six to three. And did you did you
really think, Hey, we're gonna get up there and kick
a field? Go? You got three points in the first
twenty nine plus twenty nine and a half minutes. You're
not gonna get up there on this defense. And the
the other part is it's college kickers. How many yards

(25:21):
do you really need to go to reasonably expect blanket
ship ay walking through that door? Okay, he's not around
to superte it like he used to do. So thinking
that you were suddenly going to have, you know, a
fifty five yard attempt and that was gonna be your
saving grace moving the ball minimally, it's not gonna happen.
The other on was just from the larger college landscape.

(25:45):
And we'll talk to our guy Pete fu Tech next
hour to recap what we saw these last couple of days.
How quickly do substitution rules change? Because we saw.

Speaker 3 (25:55):
Freeman get to use that too, right as Beelaman did
for Illinois and where he almost.

Speaker 1 (26:00):
Had a fight.

Speaker 3 (26:02):
Oh so, like pushing the boundaries about running running out,
run out, the.

Speaker 1 (26:06):
First one's going to be looked at is people running
into the referees because they're so excited on the side. Wow,
we've seen that in a couple of today, We've seen
that in a couple of games. Well, I think that's
the first thing we gotta look at. But that's nothing.
Able to run up and down the field without getting
run over.

Speaker 3 (26:20):
But that's another play that that stands out as a Wow.
This this baby took a touchdown away right because your
first would have been first to goal from the eleven.
Instead you're backed up to the twenty six big play
down the sideline referee for those that didn't see it,
ends up getting bumped into by excitable guy on Georgia's
sideline who was immediately identified and I think his home

(26:42):
location was put up in a matter of seconds. You
want to talk about being vilified. You got him on
one side, and you've got the director of analytics who
is standing next to Freeman, and they just kept looking
at each other and smiling after every big play and
every gutsy decision that went through. But for George, I
mean there was the game breaker right, one that wasn't dropped,
one that was a big play and oh no, no, no,

(27:05):
there's a fifteen yard penalty I believe there was contact
on the sideline, and then you go back and see
the replus, like, what the hell are you doing because
it wasn't him. There were two other guys that were
right alongside and that would have clip that referee. So
that was all sorts of sideline malvisons.

Speaker 2 (27:21):
You know.

Speaker 1 (27:21):
The thing for Kirby smart right, and the thing about
plays like this this gets into Dan campbe little bit
is like, oh, hey, yes, we always do this because
this is how we are. We're aggressive where you know
we always go for it on fourth down. We're always
going to try to be aggressive. At the end of
that is that it's not about always making that decision.
It's about making the decision that has the best chance
of succeeding, and it sometimes it's not going for it

(27:43):
on fourth down, and sometimes it's ah, is this risk
worth it? You? Really if if you stop and said, okay,
take the emotion out of this here, yes, just giving
up a field goal, giving up the lead, Okay, we're
really gonna go in thirty seconds less than that to
get in field goal position and kick a field goal.
We're really gonna do that. We haven't done it the
entire half. No Jame's going to play incredibly loose defense. No,

(28:03):
we're having trouble with this. This is it. This is
where every score matters. And no, you don't think that
there's gonna be an absolute disaster like you had, but
guess what, You're more likely to have a disaster happen.
Then you already get down the field at that point.
And again, if it was a twenty eight to twenty
eight game, yeah, try it. You're they're not stopping you.
Your quarterback's making great to say, you guys are catching

(28:25):
the ball. Go that's the flow of the game. That
that's not understanding that a better decision and more conservative
decision needed to be made there to just get to halftime,
Just get to halftime and then reset for the second half.
That play that was the game more than anything else.
That play was the game.

Speaker 3 (28:43):
And you know me, I usually love the aggressiveness, and
I've defended Dan Campbell probably more than I should because
I like the All right, let's go with where we
are down distance, but also what is game flow? What
are our aptitudes? Where do we have potentially a mismatch
we can exploit? Then alvi becomes about the excellence of

(29:04):
execution which, in Campbell's case, much to the sugarn of
your Detroit bound extended family, which why they seemingly have
forgotten all of your ills against them for predicting greatness
and leaving them at the doorstep is beyond me. But
I'd rather do that than the all right, let's play
it safe loser ball as we may call it sometimes

(29:26):
in terms of your decision making. But for Kirby Smart,
here in a six to three game that you haven't
really generated anything consistently, you've seen Notre Dame's pass rush
has been pretty strong. Now they only recorded one sack
on the game. That's not always the tail of the tape. Right.
As much as we love box score reading and whatever else,

(29:48):
that's not how that game was being dictated. And there's
no chance Notre Dame was suddenly going to say, yeah,
let's play a soft zone coverage and let them move
the ball and gain some level of consistency heading into
the half. No chance in hell that that was not
any money's menu there. So normally I would go for

(30:09):
the aggressiveness, but expecting the big pop in those final seconds. No, no, no, no,
let's play through, because you're gonna come out and play
defense and try to grind this game out. Instead, look
out fast and got away from them.

Speaker 1 (30:23):
Exit out about a Fresco exit Swallen Dome. The Jason
Smiths are with Mike Carmon live the Tireck dot Com Studios.
That was the play. That's the play that will haunt
them forever. Now to a guy who said I'll haunt
you forever, Jason Smith, you say one more thing about Detroit.
It's Martin Wise. He's got what's trending now. You know.
I was just gonna let it slide. There's a lot
of defensive juries. I was gonna let you have it.

Speaker 4 (30:46):
Notre Dame as successful today in New Orleans as the
rescheduled Sugar Bowl.

Speaker 1 (30:52):
They beat Georgia twenty three to ten.

Speaker 4 (30:54):
In Notre Dame now advances to the semi final of
the College Football Playoff. They'll play Penn State in the
Orange Bowl next week and elsewhere in college football. Alabama
quarterback Jalen Milroe leaving school. He will enter the twenty
twenty five NFL Draft. And we have one game in
progress right now. Duke and Old Miss. Old Miss with

(31:15):
a thirty eight to seven lead at the start of
the fourth quarter looking at a Jax Jackson dart and
lateral that ended up being a touchdown right now on replay.

Speaker 1 (31:23):
In the NBA, the Warriors beat that are.

Speaker 4 (31:26):
Leading the seventy six ers forty eight to thirty with
just under nine minutes left in the second quarter. The
Celtics beat the timber Wolves one eighteen to one, fifteen,
Nets over Bucks one thirteen to one, ten and Thunder
over Clippers one sixteen to ninety eight. Now the Pacers
beat the Heat one twenty eight to one fifteen. Jimmy
Butler in the game had a decent game, but in

(31:48):
his post game that's where he really made noise.

Speaker 1 (31:50):
Let's hear it.

Speaker 5 (31:51):
I want to see me get my joy back from
playing basketball. Wherever that may be, we'll find out here
pretty soon, but I'm going to get my joy back.
I'm happy here off the court, but I want to
be back to somewhere dominant. I want to hoop and
I want to help this same win. Right now, I'm
not doing it.

Speaker 2 (32:07):
Can you get your joy back here on the court?

Speaker 5 (32:09):
Probably not so.

Speaker 4 (32:11):
Adding a little bit of fuel more fuel to the
fire of Jimmy Butler not wanting to be in Miami
we'll see pat Riley balls in your court. No pun
intended elsewhere in college, that's elsewhere in the NFL. The
Jets interviewed Lewis Riddick for their general manager job.

Speaker 1 (32:27):
They also interviewed Ron Rivera.

Speaker 4 (32:29):
For the head coaching job charge Barbstiva, Lad McConkie retards
to practice for the Chargers on Thursday. The Browns will
start Bailey's Appy at quarterback against the Ravens on Saturday.
Bailey's Appy the fortieth different starting quarterback for Cleveland since
nineteen ninety nine. Chiefs quarterback Packtor Mahomes limited in Thursday's
practice with an ankle injury, and Eagles quarterback Dailen Hurts
remains in a country protocol did not practice today. Kenny

(32:51):
Pickett is dealing with injured ribs as well. Tanner McKee
is the third quarterback for Philly. Speaking of three, quarterback
Josh Allen starting quarterback for the AFC Pro Bowl, Lamar
Jackson and Joe Burrow his backups, and American gymnast sim
Own Biles was namely twenty twenty four.

Speaker 1 (33:07):
Or Sports Illustrated Sportsperson of the Year. Mike.

Speaker 2 (33:10):
Back to you guys.

Speaker 1 (33:11):
Thanks you so much, Mart, appreciate him. Jay suspends Mike
Harmon live from the tirec dot Com Studios. Wow, coming
up next, that game just and we will get into
the Jimmy Butler blowtorching of the Miami. He got a
couple of big NBA stories get into. But wow, I'm
pretty sure he just played his last game with the Heat.
I don't think you will see him in the Heat
uniform again, not after what he just said.

Speaker 3 (33:33):
Did he top out in terms of coffee sales? So
he needs another market? Maybe maybe it's you know, a
big head coffee. Yeah, bigs coffee. Go to Portland, owns
a big market for coffee.

Speaker 1 (33:44):
Sure, get there. Why would you want to do? What
do you Why do you hate Jimmy Butler? He wants coffee.
It's Regal coffe he owned, Mike, I can't say Seattle
and you don't have a team. Come on, he is
the owner of the next him And what's that guy? Uh? Yeah,
the guy from the Hawks. Those big basketball stories coming
up next, Jason and Mike Fox.

Speaker 2 (34:03):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven
pm Pacific Fox.

Speaker 1 (34:11):
Sports Radio The Jason Smith Show with my best friend
Mike Harmon Hobo and Oh boy, it's a new year
and Jimmy Butler has decided I got to borrow from
the James harden of school of I need to blow
torch my team so I can get a trade out
of here. The Heat have not had a great season
so far. They've been around five hundred. Jimmy Butler has

(34:34):
not had a great season himself. He is unhappy. And
we first heard rumors of his a potential trade about
three ish weeks ago, and yeah, we hear this now
and again. Eric spuls is like, yes, I've been dealing
with this for a while now, Jimmy Butler, Yeah yeah, yeah,
yeah yeah. But apparently Jimmy Butler means it now. He
really really really wants out this time, like I'm done,

(34:56):
I can't do it here. After a nine point effort
tonight and Heat lost to the Pacers, Jimmy Butler his
postgame press conference talked about how he really really really
needs a change of scenery and hope it happens soon.
Here's a back and forth with Jimmy Butler and a reporter.

Speaker 5 (35:13):
I want to see me get my joy back from
playing basketball. Whoever that may be, we'll find out here
pretty soon. But I only get my joy back. I'm
happy here off the court, but I want to be
back to somewhere dominant. I want to hoop and I
want to hope this team win. Right now, I'm not
doing it. Can you get your joy back here on
the court?

Speaker 1 (35:30):
Probably not, Lakers. I'm done. I'm done, and I'm happy
here off the court, off the court. Now's look at
a relationship. No, no, no, I'm happy with you half
the time. Wait, what does that mean?

Speaker 3 (35:43):
Nine?

Speaker 1 (35:44):
Another half?

Speaker 2 (35:44):
Not so much ending on the day.

Speaker 1 (35:46):
It doesn't matter. He is now greasing the Skids for
a trade, and I'm pretty sure he has just played
his last game with he. You know what's funny, though, Jason.

Speaker 3 (35:53):
About three and a half weeks ago, a month whatever
it was when this first started to percolate, Remember the
slap fight going on between Shams and his Agentell Yeah, repeatedly.
Now that guy that shows up at funerals in the
long coat with the sunglasses is being used as this
is Shams back to Butler's agent staring him down. Because man,

(36:14):
this is pretty explicit. I'm kind of done here eighteen
points a game. The high score right now is Tyler
Hero at about twenty four and a half, finally becoming
more of the consistent player that they needed him to be.
But the rest of it seems to be in shambles.
I guess he and Spolstra it finally run its course.

Speaker 1 (36:33):
Yeah again, he made it much longer than I thought
he would make it in Miami because he had been
a Hey, I had the first five five or six
years in Chicago. That was good. Can we make it
a couple of years in Minnesota? One season in Philadelphia.
He was gonna be that talented player that never found
a home. But hey, six years in Miami, NBA Finals, okay?

Speaker 2 (36:52):
Run.

Speaker 1 (36:52):
He wanted to fight Spolstra at one point on the
side during a time out of the game, and they
still made it to the finals after that happened. But
now he is definitely done. I don't know that you
can put him back on the court again after this.
Can you get your joy back? I'm not You're not
happy here. You're not going out to play Jimmy Butler.
They're gonna sit Jimmy Butler until they can trade him.
And I'll tell you what there are gonna be a

(37:13):
lot of teams who are gonna want him because he's
not quite the same guy he was being thirty five,
but he's he's like a Harden or a Chris Paul
or a player in which, hey, if I'm not happy
with Kevin Durant, where if I'm not happy, I'm not
gonna play well. But if I'm happy, I'll play all

(37:33):
right now to him for a long term the players
happy player right when when people lose their joy, when
guys don't want to play, they play poorly and it
looks like their career is just going to end. But
Jimmy Butler is one of those guys, and we've seen
it where he has picked up teams by the scruff
of their neck and said follow me. He has bought
into coaches. He has been a great leader at times,
not so great other times. But he's got to believe.

(37:54):
He's got to believe in the process and what's going on.
And there are a lot of teams out there who
are contenders that can say, yeah, Jimmy Butler can come
and buy in with us. It's not gonna be that expensive.
It's not like the heater are gonna you know, you
take us a whole bunch of stuff from us for
a trade. So, but now the Heat have to move on.
There's no way he can play for them anymore. And
he will be very desirable from a team. And I

(38:14):
hate to say that. You know, Hey, guys can sulk
and then get what they want. But that's kind of
how superstars work in sports. Now, you sulk, you say
you want things, you push, you push, you push, and
then eventually a team has no choice because they want
to get out from under you. And so Jimmy Butler,
I don't I can't see him playing with the Heat again.
He'll get traded at some point. You're gonna see a
lot of contender saying, yeah, let's have Jimmy Butler come in.

(38:36):
Let's have a little bit of that attitude that he brings.
And if we get a positive Jimmy Butler, it's great.
If it doesn't work, you can cut him. Are not
You're not trading a whole bunch of assets. Got Hey,
after a while, it's not working, we're cutting the guy.
We're moving on. But the right team, trust me, he
will buy in. He will be a lynchpin type player
with the right team.

Speaker 3 (38:52):
Opted into his contract, So he's got one more year
remaining beyond the current season on the deal that he signed.

Speaker 1 (38:58):
It as a four year deal, so that's what he's
got left. You look at the standings as it.

Speaker 3 (39:04):
Is, I mean they're still in the sixth seed, just
seventeen and fifteen, showing you where the Eastern Conference is
that you've got a bunch of teams floating right at
five hundred. But for Jimmy Butler, yeah, it's about the
buy in. It's like what we talk about with the Blakes.

Speaker 1 (39:18):
Now.

Speaker 3 (39:19):
I don't want him for a long time. I want
him always to be working on a contract here right
to where there's an incentive. Same thing here where maybe
you've got one or two other big veterans in the
locker room already and a couple of young kids that
maybe they need a kick in the ass to go
to the next level. He's been pretty good at that
if guys are willing to buy in, right, because we've

(39:40):
seen the fruits of that labor a couple of times,
and he's now a guy that moves on. He's like
a coach where you've had enough right three or four years,
it's like, all right, it's time.

Speaker 1 (39:51):
For us to move on in part ways. Suns, MAVs, Rockets,
and Warriors. They were on his list in December. They
will all be on his list again now. All these
teams can say, yeah, we could take that chance, but
I photoshopped them into a Lakers uniform. Yeah that's okay.
I'm sure. I'm sure they'll get involved as well. We'll
have more in this and tell you why targeting was
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