Best of the Jason Smith Show with Mike Harmon

Jason Smith and Mike Harmon react to the Bears requesting an interview with Cowboys head coach Mike McCarthy. The guys welcome Jason La Canfora to show for all the latest on Black Monday/wild Card Weekend. And Rex Ryan STILL believes he's the "real" Jets head coach!

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:21):
This is the best of The Jason Smith Show with
Mike Harmon on Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 1 (00:33):
Hello, welcome in side Happy Monday, the Jason Smith Show
with my base friend Mike Harmon.

Speaker 3 (00:39):
Well dressed, hoboat.

Speaker 1 (00:43):
It is North Dakota State Montana State for the FCS Championship.
Mike Harmont's go big Monday. Between that and raw we
got all we need one sure, sure.

Speaker 4 (00:54):
It's all I need.

Speaker 1 (00:55):
San Diego State, Montana State, It's all we need. The
fighting sue, the fighting Montanians. Oh yeah, come on, a
ten point game.

Speaker 5 (01:04):
We've seen a couple of hospital balls thrown in the
final minutes. Yes, been kind of crazy. I mean it
was a twenty one to three game. At halftime, it
was over. You were moving on, you were gonna go
lament the big Big Bodegan, whether Tendonight has becomes something
more serious, don't put that out there, stops, We've got
to be realistic. Show us now, the show is today.
It was at Steve de Sager's update, Stop stop with that?

(01:27):
Why would you do that? Heavy minutes taking their toll.

Speaker 1 (01:30):
No, and said let's talk about your craptastic team, saying, hey,
Mike McCarthy, come coach us.

Speaker 4 (01:34):
Why don't we do that instead? How about that? Hanstay?

Speaker 1 (01:38):
We can't find anybody we like, Hey, let's call another
team for their coach.

Speaker 4 (01:41):
Let's go do that.

Speaker 5 (01:42):
He's not gonna be their coach. The contract expires on
the fourteenth. They'll fix the glitch. He's either signed or
he's not. That and they've got a list of forty
eight guys they want to interview. I think you've been
hired more. The Jets have more. They're like in an
arms race as to who's gonna talk to the lowest
common denominator of Hey, did that guy coach? Once upon

(02:04):
a time, there's reports of hey, teams are gonna talk
to David Shaw. I was like, we're really not talking
to David Shaw? Really, And then the Bear said no, actually,
that's a good idea. Let's put him on the list.

Speaker 1 (02:15):
You're screaming, you're so fired up about the forty seven people.

Speaker 5 (02:19):
The Bears are just really kind of comical. It's after
a let's win a game at Green Bay.

Speaker 1 (02:25):
So uh, let's starait for it with what has been
called and dubbed forty seven Black Monday.

Speaker 4 (02:35):
Shut.

Speaker 3 (02:35):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (02:35):
We saw coaches fired yesterday, we saw coaches fired today.
We just watched Ezekiel Elliott head to the.

Speaker 4 (02:41):
Chargers for the play. How about that? Look at that?
You know they need two yards? He knows how to
fall forward. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you're gonna love that
one point six yards per carry. That's so you can
see my eyes?

Speaker 5 (02:53):
Do we need to paint some on you get a
tatt some work from Alex's tattoo guy for abs.

Speaker 1 (03:00):
You're excited Frostburg Ezekiel Elliott. Now you get a chance
to watch him with the plan run down and cover punts.
That's gonna be fun.

Speaker 3 (03:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (03:09):
But if he comes in and runs over Houston on Saturday,
how funny.

Speaker 4 (03:13):
Would that be?

Speaker 1 (03:13):
And what a day for Ezekiel Elliott. Turning back the
clock to twenty fifteen.

Speaker 4 (03:18):
You got Vince Cully on the calls out of.

Speaker 1 (03:20):
Sure, let's take a broadcast, and you know, people think
Lad McConkie is related to Phil Oh. No, nothing could
be further from the truth. They just happened to have
the same last name. And who would have thought about that?
Two players with a very distinctive last name playing in
the same sport, the same position, and they're not related. Now,

(03:41):
let's go to SpongeBob, who's got the latest on this game?

Speaker 4 (03:45):
Wait, that's a Nickelodeon game. Dude, Hell yeah, let's go.
It's a Nickelodeon game. But yes, look, Black Monday.

Speaker 1 (03:53):
We watched Girodmeo get fired by the Patriots a day ago,
Doug Peterson gets fired today by the Aguars. But maybe
the biggest is we find out that the Bears have.

Speaker 4 (04:05):
Said, hey, Dallas.

Speaker 1 (04:07):
We know that maybe you're going forth Mike McCarthy maybe
or not, but we'd like to talk to him about
being our head coach. Sure the Bears want Mike McCarthy.
I just all I'm just thinking of is the is
the phone calls coming in?

Speaker 4 (04:26):
Uh? Bernice, who is it? It's a Chicago Bears.

Speaker 1 (04:29):
Oh, let's see, what did you tell him last time,
I said, you're in the bathroom. Uh, Dom, I'm watching
all twenty two of the game yesterday against the Commanders.
So just tell him that.

Speaker 4 (04:39):
But they're gonna call back again.

Speaker 1 (04:41):
Just then tell him I went out to lunch and
then uh, I'm I'm holiday shopping. But the holidays are over. Listen,
I'm not I'm just not taking the call. Okay, here,
you take take my cell phone. Uh dude, I know
it doesn't have a button to.

Speaker 4 (04:54):
Turn it off. Yes it does. It's on the top everyday. No, no,
it's got to stay on.

Speaker 1 (04:57):
So but just uh uh when they called it, let
it go to the voicemail and I'll check it later on.

Speaker 4 (05:02):
Just say I'm on set.

Speaker 5 (05:04):
I'm working on my next monologue for the next episode
of land Man, and there are no phones allowed on
the set.

Speaker 4 (05:10):
How hard is this?

Speaker 1 (05:11):
My My next head coach is going to be the
Billy Bob guy because I watched him into Friday Night Lights,
and uh, that was a real story. I've been successful
in many businesses. That was a real story back in
the late eighties. I mean, Steven just told me that
he actually was just playing a guy who was a
coach and and it wasn't actually the coach himself, but
looked pretty good.

Speaker 4 (05:28):
As the coach. He convinced me, I'm gonna.

Speaker 1 (05:30):
Yeah, he's gonna and you know, look, and I can
have conversations with him about the roster, about oil, about
lots of things, about maybe rebooting the Dallas thing again.

Speaker 4 (05:38):
And I could be JR.

Speaker 3 (05:39):
Uh and and.

Speaker 4 (05:40):
Uh And I don't mean j R. Smith.

Speaker 1 (05:42):
I mean I could be I could be JR. Ewing
And I don't mean Patrick Ewing.

Speaker 3 (05:45):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (05:45):
I could be you know, I could be charying charge
of that now because now man, I'm a I'm a
multi threat. I can get I could be an egot guy.
I could get the e I heard the egot is
a big thing.

Speaker 4 (05:54):
Think we can get him an Emmy nomination for next year.

Speaker 1 (05:56):
I've already bought it. It's it's already a golden Globe's
already on the way. It was too bad I couldn't
get nominated this past time, but it's already in for
next year.

Speaker 4 (06:03):
It's good. They already printed up the trophy. I already
got it.

Speaker 5 (06:05):
But yeah, they talking to Nicky Glazer came over the
house and Jerry, here you go.

Speaker 4 (06:09):
I got it. I got pictures and everything else. She
did a good job. I'm a way to ego. Just
need a guy. Got he got, just he got, I
got a team, and I got a lot of money.
You know, first when I heard.

Speaker 1 (06:22):
The Glazer was coming over, I thought it was I
thought it was the Fox guy, and then found out
it wasn't that.

Speaker 4 (06:26):
That's it's actually Got. She was a woman, and so
you're gonna try to get trained up for I thought
I was gidding.

Speaker 1 (06:32):
Oh, wow, you're the one that has all the all
the scoops all the time. No, no, I'm a comedian.
Oh okay, that's the other one. That's the guy. Oh
that's the guy whose family owns on soccer team. Got
it Got. I'm all good.

Speaker 4 (06:41):
Jay's pretty funny too.

Speaker 5 (06:42):
But all of that to say, the request from McCarthy,
I've long said it here.

Speaker 4 (06:47):
It's the you're kicking tires.

Speaker 5 (06:50):
I'll really chuckle even harder when they make the request
to talk to Matt Naggy. Oh your team did just wait? Yeah,
I mean so all of that to say, Look, McCarthy
was a champion once upon a time. You got three
double digit win season in a row, and based on
what you've trotted through there the last Oh, I don't know,

(07:10):
since you realize Lovey Smith couldn't win a game after
November first or beat a division opponent. You've had nothing
but empty suits one after another, bad coaches, bad decision makers,
and in theory like if anybody with worth his waiting,
salt ain't coming there until you officially fire Ryan Poles
and have Kevin Warren going back to being business.

Speaker 1 (07:31):
Here's the thing is is that look, while other teams
that have openings are bereft of talent and say what
are we gonna do, the Bears have a lot of
good talent and have to deal with the front office.
You're gonna have to deal with that anywhere you go.
I guess some some front you want to go.

Speaker 4 (07:46):
To shug Gil want to.

Speaker 1 (07:47):
But now in the same district you go, anywhere you go,
you have owners that you got to deal with that.
You're like, you're a lunatic, Yes, but I'm not as
big a lunatic as that guy, But that's the cat's
But you're still going to.

Speaker 4 (07:58):
A lunative matter. It doesn't It's just say it's all.

Speaker 5 (08:03):
Yes, we made a lot of decisions in this world
about worst option is the least evil option.

Speaker 4 (08:10):
Shad Khan is a lunatic. Is he as big a
lunatic as what he Johnson?

Speaker 3 (08:13):
No?

Speaker 1 (08:13):
Okay, but where's what he Chohnson? So you're going to
get a lunatic. But if you're not, we need we
need heads of every owner. So we can have a
mountain of who's the biggest lunig. We'll have the lunatic
power rankings.

Speaker 4 (08:27):
Where am I?

Speaker 3 (08:27):
Where?

Speaker 4 (08:27):
Where are my build together?

Speaker 5 (08:30):
Like it's a little mountain with the yodeling guy. I
want to be the price is right. I want to
be at the top. Even though it's a lunatic thing.
I think lunatic fringe is pretty good.

Speaker 3 (08:37):
I like that.

Speaker 4 (08:38):
Uh, but get a heavy metal song written for you
that way.

Speaker 1 (08:41):
If if the Bears want Mike McCarthy and Jerry Jones
is hemming and hauling, dude, go. Mike McCarthy has shown
that up until this year. You know his quarterback gets hurt.

Speaker 4 (08:53):
Yeah. They made the playoffs every year since twenty twenty.
There were a twelve win team.

Speaker 1 (08:57):
He was succeeding in environment that is completely opposite of
what is conducive to So he is thriving in chaos
and the chaos in Dallas is immense, and still he's
able to win twelve games, able to coexist with Jerry Jones.
If Jerry Jones doesn't want Mike McCarthy, go go. If

(09:17):
I'm Mike mccarthury, I'm like, great, I want to go.
Jerry Jones said today, yeah, we don't want a guy
who doesn't want to be here. Tomorrow, I would say,
I want to go to the Bears.

Speaker 4 (09:25):
I want to go to the.

Speaker 1 (09:26):
Bears because the Bears really want me now, not just
kicking the top, but if Bears say no, we'll hire
you if you come here, I go. If I'm Mike McCarthy,
you know what, McCarthy's a pretty good coach. It's not
his fault. Dak sucks in the playoffs, because that's really
what it comes down to. It's not all of a sudden, no,
we're calling the wrong player. Dak sucks in the playoffs.
Show every Dallas Cowboy problem the last five years has

(09:48):
been because Dak has sucked in the playoffs. Else how
else you want to cut it up. Dak sucks in
the playoffs. That's what it is. If Dak didn't suck,
things would be different. But Dak sucks in the playoffs,
and Mike McCarthy can say, hey, not my fault, man,
And when when he comes in and.

Speaker 4 (10:06):
Interviews, I can say, hey, just try to want to know.
We're not gonna hold this playoff stuff against you. Yeah,
because it's not my fault that Dak sucks.

Speaker 1 (10:13):
So yeah, if they want him, go, go go. Because
other than that, you're just staying in Dallas where it's
another year and you're in the pressure cooker, and and
and you're at the whim of Jerry Jones saying Okay,
now I'm going to replace you. But you're not a
position to succeed there. You're a more position to succeed

(10:33):
with Chicago. You'll get a Mulligan year to try to
remake Caleb Williams, get him on a better level. Like
you go where you wanted, where you're not just waiting
to be fined, because that's if you stay in Dallas,
you are waiting to be fined.

Speaker 5 (10:44):
Here's the thing, his contract is up in a week,
but you're trying to accelerate the timetable, right so you
can start to talking to him before he's officially a
free agent.

Speaker 4 (10:53):
But all he's.

Speaker 5 (10:54):
Got to do is wait it out? The question is
do the Bears have someone else on their list that
they're afraid is going to get scooped up?

Speaker 3 (11:01):
Right?

Speaker 5 (11:02):
Is it a battle between McCarthy versus Vrabel versus Ben
Johnson again Ben Johnson. If I'm going there, I want
assurances that I've got more say in how this stuff
gets constructed again, because if Ryan Poles is there as
an empty suit being used as a puppet by Warren
to be the eventual fall guy when things go wrong next,

(11:23):
that's not conducive to success.

Speaker 3 (11:25):
Right.

Speaker 5 (11:25):
For all the laughing that we've done over Detroit for many,
many years, guess what the last couple of years, they
pushed a lot of buttons correctly, and everything seems to
be moving in the right place.

Speaker 4 (11:38):
For last night.

Speaker 5 (11:39):
If Van Ginkel catches the ball and runs the other way,
I would have liked to see that final quarter of action.
But guess what the soul left. As soon as that
ball hit the turf. It was like Ragnar and a
thousand Vikings.

Speaker 4 (11:52):
And that was it. The soul was taken from that squad.

Speaker 5 (11:55):
But for the Lions, they're in in a run here,
and you look at the way they've constructed their staff
alongside Dan Campbell and what they've done in the executive branch.
It's all work for Ben Johnson. He got to be
looking over checking him. Boy, I really like Caleb Williams.
I like what you have here, really don't like what
you have here, here, here, here, here, Keenan Allen's slower,

(12:16):
DJ Moore. We got to get some of that diva
out of him. So he goes back to being a
little bit of the guy. Maybe he was at his
at his peak. All of that to say, you at
least like some of the component parts where maybe you
don't at the rest of the chess board. Rabel seems
destined for New England. How they did girod mao, not
that they fired him, but the fact that dude found
the memo.

Speaker 1 (12:37):
About being fired. Come on Rabel's interviewing with the Jets.
All right, love do tru We'll do it right after
the game. Don't worry about doing it right after that.
We already have it written. And he walks in on it.
It's like, dear John, look, McCarthy's a good coach. He
has proven that he is a good coach. There's there's
not the weekly Hey what the hell is going on
move here? That you can say with a lot of

(12:58):
other ques, you can still.

Speaker 5 (12:59):
Say there's a lot of two minute decision making and
clock management things.

Speaker 1 (13:03):
That you can always do that. But it's not like, Hey,
Mike Tomlin, what the hell are you doing?

Speaker 2 (13:08):
Hey?

Speaker 4 (13:08):
Raheem Morris, what the hell are you doing? Right?

Speaker 1 (13:10):
There's not a lot of that. There's there's not a
lot to Hey, Jeff Ulbrick, what the.

Speaker 3 (13:14):
Hell is that? Dude?

Speaker 5 (13:15):
I've started writing the script for our meetings on clock management,
not the coaches retreat up at Taranaah.

Speaker 1 (13:22):
It's not Mike McCarthy's fault that Dak Prescott sucks in
the playoffs.

Speaker 4 (13:26):
That's what it all boils down to.

Speaker 3 (13:28):
That.

Speaker 4 (13:28):
You could cut everything up. Jerry Jones thinks he's a
bad owner. He doesn't know.

Speaker 3 (13:32):
Aye.

Speaker 1 (13:32):
If Dak Prescott doesn't throw up on himself in the playoffs, Lasha,
everything is different.

Speaker 5 (13:38):
That's gonna be the first in our custom trading cards.

Speaker 4 (13:41):
Yeah, Dak sucks in the players.

Speaker 1 (13:43):
Not my fault that sucks in the playoff and the
and the and the card is Mccarthyo's just pointing at
at him, is putting it dacka not my fault.

Speaker 4 (13:49):
You suck in the playoffs.

Speaker 6 (13:51):
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Speaker 4 (13:54):
He would be a terrific higher for the Bears. It's
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What could be coming up and coming down the pike?
Is Rex Ryan really coming back to the NFL?

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(15:59):
you can. It's safe for Mike McCarthy. It's kind of
a gray Monday. Maybe he's leaving, maybe he's not. I
might be happy to leave.

Speaker 4 (16:07):
That's why it's kind of a gray area. How great charcoal?

Speaker 3 (16:10):
Uh?

Speaker 4 (16:11):
I love Dallas, but you know you're gonna be in
the mix.

Speaker 1 (16:14):
We had Black Sunday, which turned into Black Monday, which
could be Black Tuesday and Black Wednesday.

Speaker 5 (16:19):
There was a good Black Sunday song by uh Jethro
Tool way back and.

Speaker 1 (16:23):
Then was it called black Sunday Sitting on Black Sunday? Dude, dude,
it's not running down Black Sunday's nose, dune.

Speaker 4 (16:31):
Why do you hate me? Hey, Black Sunday? Du do dude?
Do Black Sunday like a dead duck?

Speaker 5 (16:38):
Stab you with my pen Ian Anderson's gonna stop Samon
farming for a moment and come and kick your ass.

Speaker 1 (16:45):
Gerrod mao Is let go by the Patriots a day ago,
and boy, you know, all the every five minutes, I
feel like we're getting a story from Bob Crap.

Speaker 3 (16:53):
I didn't want to do it.

Speaker 1 (16:54):
I love him, but I really, really want to get
Rabel in here. Doug Peterson let go today by the
Jacksonville Jaguars joining us now in the hot line to
break it down. Nobody better longtime NFL inside of check
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(17:15):
have any have the Bears called you about potentially coming
to coach don this year?

Speaker 3 (17:21):
No, I'm not real popular over there, but I'm kind
of happy about that. You know. Okay, they can't they
can't handle the truth, and they also don't seem capable
of changing their outcome. So good luck.

Speaker 1 (17:34):
All right, let me cross Jason locking for it is
a no. All right, great guy right there? Uh do is?
Does this have any teeth too? With this McCarthy potential
getting you going to going to Chicago? Jerry Jones letting
him go.

Speaker 3 (17:48):
Well, look, there were going to be teams that were
interested in him. I wrote about this to Washington Post
a few weeks ago, like there were you know, look,
and I think the Raiders, if they make a move,
I think they'll interview him as well. So you only need,
you know, two teams to have a market. And he's
going to have at least fat and Jerry Jones miscalculated

(18:08):
in his negotiations with his wide receiver right and his quarterback,
and he'll probably do the same with his pass rusher,
and like, you know, this is just what he does,
and this is how it goes for them, and he'll

(18:30):
pay more than he has to and he'll negotiate and
in this case, he won't be negotiating against himself. But
this was where it was always going, and this was
pretty much where it was always going. He should have
been more proactive about this. He should have signed him to,
you know, a three year extension that's really a one
year extension and at least had some sort of you know,

(18:55):
had them call certainty and had some things that he
could do it at his price rather than the now
you know, potentially having to bid to retain a guy
services who he knows he wants and she doesn't want
to do a coaching search. He's like a lot of
these others, you know, protected billionaires, like it's it's a

(19:16):
social uh, it's it's basically a monopoly that they have
going that's socialized because of the way they share the pot.
And so if you know you're going to reap in
your I don't even know how many hundreds of millions
in profit every year. Like, do I even feel like
taking the time to interview these guys? Or do I

(19:36):
just run it back like my buddy Marror right in
my division, you know what I mean? Or you know,
I cool Dot Cohn and just fire one guy but
not the other? Yeah?

Speaker 4 (19:48):
Would you those rule do what they want?

Speaker 3 (19:52):
So like he does, he's not up for a coaching search,
And I think like McCarthy knows it, and I think
other people in the league know it, and you probably
have to pay a little more for it, but who
cares because he's got plenty of money anyway.

Speaker 5 (20:05):
Yeah, So what do you think was the stranger notion
the giants running it back despite all of the public
well being a laughing stock because the hard knocks, or
only firing one half there in Jacksonville, I don't even know.

Speaker 3 (20:20):
I mean the level of absurdity that they expect you
to just roll with. I don't know. Or I mean,
how about the idea of Mike Tannebaum interviewing Rex Ryan
potentially for the geography. I mean, these people are incredulous,

(20:43):
like they just don't care. They don't care, like, don't
do what they want to do, and they'll do it
their way, and they won't really listen to reason, and
they surround themselves with yes men and yes women and
total sick of fans who keep riding the you know,
they keep riding the gravy, training themselves too, and the
fans get screwed. And you're nothing in this league without legitimate,

(21:07):
high end leadership at the tippy top. And I don't
know how to parse gross ineptitude anymore. I just know
most of these owners suck and they will never win
a Super Bowl or get anywhere close to it, even
in a league that, again is completely subsidized to give
all them as much of a chance as possible, because
they don't prize like superiority. They don't. It's not a meritocracy.

(21:33):
It's all about parody. And most of these fools still
can't capitalize from it. But they keep making money and
their franchise value escalate, and they keep holding municipalities hostage
for this stadium deal or that stadium deal, and so
at the end of the day, what do they care?
And the effeckless commissioner works for them, So what's.

Speaker 1 (21:52):
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Now Here's what Maybe because I'm just so beaten down
Jay over over the last forty plus years of my life,
you shouldn't. But I feel like, why not hire Rex Ryan?
It does anybody the Jets hire anybody the Jets higher
is going to get the job because no anybody else

(22:14):
with choices isn't going to take that job. So at
least will be fun. I mean, we're not gonna win,
We're not gonna but at least will be fun with
Rex Ryan. Where it's I got to saying, it wasn't
that fun with Jeff Ulbrick or Robert Sala, but it'll
be more fun with Rex Ryan.

Speaker 3 (22:27):
Whun you think it'll be fun.

Speaker 4 (22:29):
Oh we're gonna stink. It will be a tire fire,
but it'll be a.

Speaker 3 (22:31):
Funny was the end? Was the end of it fun there?
Because I think you know, people tend to get lost
in the moment when you had endless backbiting and you
had people turning all one another and you had a
toxic building with Sunday leak after Sunday morning, Leek like
I was there, Like you're telling me I was there

(22:51):
that day. Kermarti started swinging his helmet on people in
Courtland and the owners, sitting there with his back to it, saying,
I think this is the most cohesive team we've ever had,
and I've never seen a JET team look as good.
In August and we're like, Bozo, turn around, you idiot,
turn around. They're literally drawling. He's making them run. Laughs. Again,
you know, the quarterback basically lives a bubble bar for

(23:13):
three months, for three weeks during training camps, and you
think this is you think you thought that was fun.
I don't mean Tebow running with his shirt off. Jay.

Speaker 4 (23:23):
If you're gonna tell me I enjoyed that training camp,
you're telling me.

Speaker 1 (23:28):
Though in a five year run, I'll get three bad years,
but two AFC championships.

Speaker 4 (23:34):
I'll sign up for that.

Speaker 3 (23:35):
That's not coming down. No, that's part of it. Yeah,
that was fun, But that was at the peak. That's
when everything like, that's the moment the football gods shine
on you. And then the more of res you got
and the more of that regime you got, you know,
it was it was dude, it was ugly, it was horrible,

(23:56):
and it's beginning to what eleven or twelve year period
of gross futility. And now you've got one of the
guys possible for interviewing the other one. That's part of
the coop fun fun. I guess what, your tickets costs

(24:16):
more now than it did when you were going on
the championship game, and your beer colls more now and
you don't have uh he think Rex is rebuilding that defense?
Come on, come on, no one's.

Speaker 4 (24:31):
Building anythun but no one's building off. Yeah, they'll be fun.

Speaker 3 (24:35):
We'll be terrible.

Speaker 1 (24:36):
Yes, we're going to be terrible anyway, So at least
be terrible and be fun.

Speaker 3 (24:40):
No, I mean how about when I mean, how about
have confident people making confidence Jay.

Speaker 1 (24:47):
Who's who's the who's the best fit for the Jets
that they can legitimately get who's the guy coming and
they can get and say I can turn this or
I can turn this franchise around.

Speaker 4 (24:58):
I can build a culture and I can get us
going again.

Speaker 3 (25:02):
I mean, well, who who what do you mean by
the why why should it who's legitimately get me like that?

Speaker 1 (25:07):
Because a guy like Mike Rabel, who has choicesn't going
to the Jets, right, Ben Jones? Why is that because
the Jets are because it Jets are a dumpster fire?

Speaker 3 (25:16):
Like I mean, anybody people should abstained from going to
Jets games until he sells the team or until he
puts a real team president in charge and says, you're
in charge of staffs and football operations. And I'm going
to stay the hell out of it. I mean, I
don't think the answer is Lett settle for the most
comedically aesthetic, like like, let's mose with a smile and

(25:37):
a foot fetish and that ha ha ha jokes on us.
I don't know really like I don't. I don't think.
I don't know, like I don't know that that's I
understand why you're doing it. It's like a PTSD response,
But I don't think that's what you know you should
be aspiring to this Guyne's a football team in one
of the biggest cities and most powerful cities in the world,

(26:00):
and I don't I mean, do the guys in the
cafeteria know how to cook? I mean, does anybody know
how to do their job? I don't know, but they
certainly aren't in the business of coming close to winning
football games with any consistency, and to think you're gonna
throw it back twelve years and a bunch of people
who haven't done these jobs in forever, who, let's be real,

(26:21):
nobody else wanted to do those jobs for them, like
people who actually do win occasionally want nothing to do
with this. And the fact you would even entertain it.
I wouldn't be looking for the bright side. I would
be you know, I don't know, man, I would be
abstaining like I said, I would be laying out like

(26:41):
I did with US Soccer during the whole bare haol.
You guys, do you're saying, I'm gonna tear you down
every chance I get. I'm gonna try to end this
charade as fast as I can in whatever way I can,
just by expressing my opinions on it. And you're not
getting a penny out of me until.

Speaker 1 (26:57):
You get a real operation going speaking getting the pat
I want to put that on T shirt. I think
that should be the Jets motivational phrase of you throughout there. Hey, guys,
let's go out there and win with a smile and
a foot finish.

Speaker 4 (27:07):
All right, Let's go get.

Speaker 3 (27:08):
Out I don't know. I don't know it. Can I
get a cut off every T shirt or something?

Speaker 5 (27:17):
Yeah, we're gonna get those T shirts designed by the
end of the week.

Speaker 1 (27:22):
Let's lose with a smile and the foot fetish guys,
let's go get up.

Speaker 4 (27:24):
You gotta go go with a smile, all right? That
did not happen.

Speaker 5 (27:29):
Well, it has been for a while, and let's face it,
it's good for content for us because I get to
watch Smith as much as he tries to claim he's
not die a little bit inside with each of his
fandom moments. So all of that is there where it
was pretty Gerrodmeo gets ousted in New England, finds the
memo of his release and all of that one year

(27:52):
bad roster, good quarterback, but now much else to work
with there, Jason, So is it just inevitable that Vrabel
takes that job?

Speaker 3 (28:00):
If he doesn't, I mean, then what's Robert Kraft doing?
I mean, the only reasonable assumption here is that in
a league that you're supposed to abide and follow certain
principles and dogmas, and you're hiring I'm guessing he plans that.
You know, he thinks he's got a better option and
I mean, Varabel's the closest thing to a sure thing

(28:23):
out there. So if he doesn't get like Mike, I
have to think he has do back channels or otherwise,
and take what I think out of it. Everybody I
talk to about it today thinks he Inger is convinced
he's got a real solid in with Ben Johnson or
Mike Rabel, or he's going to come out of this
with colossal egg on his face. Either way, to continue

(28:46):
to treat coaches and in this league, just look at
the history. It is far more often than not coaches
of color, African American coaches who get discarded after one year,
no matter how untenable hand they were handed. And we
can look at what the Texans did right in back
to back years with Lovey Smith and David Kelly, and

(29:06):
we can look at some of the situations Todd Bowles
was putting in his career. Steve Wilkes has I mean,
it's it's it is. It is shocking how it's always
a certain caliber or a certain you know, coach guy,
first time guy, often African American who who like that

(29:28):
that's the organizational failure, Like they're the ones who said
you're our guy and identified it years ago, and apparently
they lost all conviction in that by Thanksgiving because they
think they could do better. Like I mean that Prince
Conference today was a name. He's talking about the twenty
twenty three season. What the hell do you want just
try to do about it?

Speaker 6 (29:46):
He want to running the defense, then, I mean, don't
just picking all the players. Belchick takes over any side
of the ball he wants to at any given time,
Like Belichick had been playing for years with quarterbacks who were.

Speaker 3 (29:58):
No good, and he's saying, well, you know, I I
really didn't like this season on the you know, on
the back of twenty twenty three. This guy didn't even
coach the team. Then he's talking about Week one like Cincinnati,
like it should have been the start of a miracle season.
I don't know, man, the whole thing. None of it
made sense. And the only thing that a lot of
people are left to believe is Jonathan or Robbertkraft think

(30:20):
they're getting one of those two coaches. So, I mean,
we'll see.

Speaker 1 (30:23):
He's on Twitter at Jason lock and four. That is
at Jason lock and four a one oh five seven
the fan in Baltimore, Washington, post odyssey. Jay has always buddy,
great stuff. Man appreciated. We'll talk to you next week.

Speaker 3 (30:34):
Have a good one, gentlemen.

Speaker 4 (30:35):
Thank you Jason.

Speaker 1 (30:36):
Big observation there about New England and what's going on.
We'll have more on the Girodmeo situation coming up in
a bit, but right now, time to find out what's trending.
From a guy who is at the top of the
list to replace every single offensive coordinator who was fired
today in the NFL, it is Steve to say number one.

Speaker 7 (30:55):
Actually, I think every single offensive coordinator was fired da.

Speaker 4 (30:58):
There are no only o season the playoffs, and then
the other ones who were out now.

Speaker 7 (31:02):
Actually, Seattle after one year fired offensive coordinator Ryan Grubb.
He had been at the University of Washington the previous
two years. The Bengals fired veteran defensive coordinator lou Anarumo
after six years there. Three other assistants were also let
go by Cincinnati. The Colts tonight fired defensive coordinator Gus
Bradley after three years. INDI's head coach and GM are staying.

(31:24):
The Jacksonville Jaguars fired head coach Doug Peterson after three
seasons there. Jacksonville just finished a four and thirteen campaign.
GM Trent Bulky stays. The Giants are retaining coach Brian
Dabele and GM Joe Shane after a three to fourteen season.
Eagles quarterback Jalen Hurts is still in concussion protocol today.
Packers wide receiver Christian Watson suffered a torn acl yesterday,

(31:47):
so his season is over. Ravens wide receiver Za Flowers
is called day to day with his knee injury from
over the weekend. It's not season ending, says his coach.
The Chargers have signed running back Ezekiel Elliott to their
practice squad. The Rams tackle Rob Havenstein is expected to
return next Monday night after a shoulder injury, and Minnesota
defensive back Fabian Moreau is due to return from a

(32:09):
hip injury. As for college football, to playoff semi start
on Thursday, the Dodgers traded infielder Gavin Lux to the Reds.
Top ranked golfer Scottie Scheffler withdrew from next week's event
in Southern California after hand surgery. In college basketball, tonight,
number twelve ranked Houston is with nine minutes to go,
leading fifty two to thirty six over TCU and twelve

(32:30):
minutes left on FS one. Ohio State leads at Minnesota
forty five to forty four. The late NBA game just
ended the first quarter the heat up twenty eight to
twenty three at Sacramento. The Kings without Diaron Fox again
tonight due to a bruise leg at Chicago, Zach Lavine
thirty five points. The Bulls edge San Antonio one fourteen
to one ten. At New York, Carl Anthony Towns of

(32:51):
the Knicks was out with knee ten Tonights. The Knicks
from three point range shot four of twenty two and
lost to Orlando one o three to ninety four. He's
for Indiana and Memphis for Minnesota as well. Timberwolves beat
the Clippers one oh six Anthony Edwards thirty seven points.
Milwaukee and Detroit with victories, and Phoenix ended a four
game losing streak winning at Philadelphia one oh nine ninety

(33:14):
nine and Joel and beat at Philly out with a
spring foot. In the NHL, Buffalo at home one in
a shootout against Washington for three.

Speaker 4 (33:21):
Back to you, Thank you, Steve O.

Speaker 1 (33:22):
The Jason Smith Show with Mike Harmon live from the
Tire Rack Dot com Studios. So as we continue to
break down Black Monday, there should be a horror movie
where like like like it's Black Monday, Like okay, great,
and coach, instead of getting fired, get chased by guys
with machetes. No, I like, and if you can make
it away from them, you keep your job, and if
you don't, you get killed. The loser goes in the fire.

(33:45):
Yeah like Black Monday. Oh I might get fired today,
but instead here comes like we hit them. We hit
the movie with the ground running like a coach waiting
for a phone call. Instead it's a guy with a
machete and a hockey mask and he's.

Speaker 4 (33:54):
Trying to run. Oh you made it, Hey, you made it.
You get to keep the job.

Speaker 5 (33:57):
It begins with the positivity of say a Rex ron Er,
one of those guys sitting outside of prospective free agents
home as the clock goes to midnight. It's all good
times to start it.

Speaker 1 (34:07):
No, no, no, because you're not going out to get a
free agent if you're going to be fired.

Speaker 4 (34:10):
No, it's not out.

Speaker 1 (34:11):
But that's where we started. No, then it all goes down.
It's moreth the beginning of Scream where uh call, Yes,
I'm watching part of you five. Oh that's great.

Speaker 4 (34:21):
Yeah, I sid hi Hi, Doug Peterson, how are you?

Speaker 1 (34:27):
Who says I shot you fire me? Ah, this isn't
shod and that and that's the and that's the movie right.

Speaker 4 (34:32):
There, trying to get a run for Jamie Kennedy or somebody,
I mean.

Speaker 1 (34:36):
The loser goes and the coaches running for their lives.

Speaker 4 (34:39):
That will be Oh, that's good.

Speaker 1 (34:40):
But after a big coaching move in the NFL today
the quarterback who has to be traded as a result.

Speaker 4 (34:48):
Who is it? We'll tell you next. Jason to Mike Fox.

Speaker 2 (34:52):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven
pm Pacific.

Speaker 1 (35:01):
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live from the tire rack dot Com studios. Don't forget
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Speaker 4 (35:17):
Again.

Speaker 1 (35:18):
Just search Jason Smith and Mike Harmon wherever you get
your podcast from. You'll see today's show posted right after
we get off the air now. Since it is Blatt,
I've been thinking about my horror movie idea for Black Money.
It could work picturing, Like you know, guys like Doug
Peterson running oh with its Eagles hat on.

Speaker 4 (35:33):
Is he on a scooter or something?

Speaker 5 (35:34):
Because the running ain't gonna ain't getting very far, but
he and Mike McCarthy are caught before the one hundred
yard dash is over.

Speaker 1 (35:41):
We still may see some more movement. You Antonio Pierce
talked about his future and he doesn't know I'm moving
on like I'm.

Speaker 4 (35:47):
The head coach.

Speaker 1 (35:48):
But when Doug Peterson got fired today, that made me
double down on something we have talked about for a while.
You are now starting over in Jacksonville. You tried, you
tried with the guy that won a Super Bowl. You
tried a guy that won a Super Bowl with a
backup quarterback, with a guy who you thought was gonna
come in and transform your team, and he got going

(36:09):
a little bit. But clearly the Jaguars were not good enough.
And when you say not good enough, I'm talking about
Trevor Lawrence and the day as a kid. I know,
I know, I don't know what I'm saying. What I'm saying,
is I know, congratulation. The guy's got fifty million dollars
a year. Okay, he's a he's a middle of the
pack quarterback dollars a year. I think he's Okay. No,

(36:31):
but it's time for him and for the Jaguars, for
both of them to start over. Because you've tried, right,
and I know that there's the the the school of
thought that oh well, wait a minute.

Speaker 4 (36:42):
It took a while for Gino Smith, it took a
while for Sam Darnold.

Speaker 1 (36:45):
Yeah, those guys are with the Jets, but they also
needed to go someplace else to get a fresh start.
Trevor Lawrence has tried to make it work now four
years in Jacksonville, and it just hasn't. He's gotten to
a point where he has maxed out. He's a league
average quarterback. If I'm the Jaguars, I understand that it's
a weak crop of college quarterbacks coming. With every day
goes by, the college crop gets weaker and the free

(37:08):
agency crop gets weaker. When you realize Sam Donald's probably
probably gonna come back to the Vikings instead, it's gonna
be more. Hey, maybe we can move on. Maybe the
Vikings can trade a JJ McCarthy. Maybe the Jaguars need
to move on from Trevor Lawrence, and they do. Do
you have a league average quarterback making fifty million dollars
a year. Trevor Lawrence certainly had the pedigree coming in,

(37:28):
and if he wants to realize his potential, he needs
to go someplace else and try it. You need a
fresh start. You can't keep saying we'll restart here, We'll
restart here. You're gonna need a fresh start somewhere else.
He's in his mid twenties. He still can do it right.
We've seen it with Donald and Gino Smith. But you
have to go someplace. You can't just say no, I
want to do it here, and we're bringing in new
things for whatever reason, that doesn't work. But fresh starts

(37:51):
that can be a different thing. And the Jaguars can say, Okay,
we're starting over with a new head coach. We can
get out from under the money we're paying. We can
pay other guy and figure something else out in free
agency quarterback wise, or draft someone in the second round
and bring them along and Trevor Lawrence gets his chance
someplace else. This would be something that would benefit both
sides and it makes too much sense for it not

(38:13):
to happen.

Speaker 4 (38:13):
Yeah, it's still confused as to how Balkey gets to
keep his job.

Speaker 5 (38:17):
I mean, yeah, you got Brian Thomas Junior, right, and
I guess you get some credit for Tank Bigsby, but
you got etn we got a lot of other wild
swing you got.

Speaker 1 (38:27):
You know, you got nine guys you drafted that are starting.
So it's almost half the team that you got, which
is not bad. Like you you you basically you want
a little bit more than half your guys being coming
from who you drafted.

Speaker 4 (38:38):
Now there's a question that starting good.

Speaker 1 (38:42):
No, but I mean, but still were you starting for
you drafted guys that come in. So it hasn't been terrible.
But what he's done hasn't worked. Yeah he will.

Speaker 5 (38:50):
Lawrence plays ten games, parts of ten games, gets hurt,
Thomas Junior, one of the best receivers in the game
this year, Mac Jones throwing them the football and all
of those things. Uh, it's it's a curiosity again owing
to the durf of quality in the draft and what
the free agency market is. We talked about it a lot.

(39:12):
Zach Wilson creeps up to like a top three guys
because there's.

Speaker 4 (39:16):
Nobody else he does. No, no, no, but it.

Speaker 1 (39:19):
But that's but the making he was three, they would
stop the list of two.

Speaker 5 (39:24):
He is the last guy at number three. But here
was the fun I had with on Sunday morning, right
Fox Football Sunday. If I if I told you you
had to go into the free agency market and you're
looking at the quarterback position, the three names that come
up to the top, and this is why Trevor Lawrence
becomes really attractive are Russell Wilson, Aaron Rodgers and Kirk Cousins. Yeah, no,

(39:46):
I mean that it's but I mean that's the point,
is that there's nothing Lawrence is, but you don't have to.

Speaker 4 (39:50):
But you don't want to absorb the fifty millions. So
it's all right.

Speaker 5 (39:53):
Con balkis how much I keep calling him Balki, It's
no longer Balky, It's BALKI.

Speaker 4 (39:58):
Don't be ridiculous. Although I always see him as the
guy from True Romance.

Speaker 1 (40:03):
Then Cousin, I got to explained to millennials who Balky
bartalcons is from Perfect Strangers.

Speaker 4 (40:08):
In the eighties.

Speaker 1 (40:09):
It's everyone, So lady, now we do the dansive Joy
Die Die all right.

Speaker 4 (40:14):
Dance of joy.

Speaker 5 (40:15):
Whatever team would acquire Trevor Lawrence, could you resurrect him?
Because he only had one pretty good year, but the
going rate had none.

Speaker 4 (40:25):
Gino Smith had none. It cost you fifty million dollars
to find out. That's a pretty big swing.

Speaker 1 (40:31):
Well, at least I'm with a guy that's had a
great pedigree that we think can succeed, rather than well,
we're taking a chance, I'm going behind something. We're trying
to fix something that's not there. Teams are so desirous
of a quarterback, and life is absolutely miserable at shorst.
He's a league average quarterback, so it's not like, hey,
he's Zach the At worst, he's a he's a league.

Speaker 4 (40:51):
Now with an injury history.

Speaker 5 (40:53):
So unless the Jaguars are picking up a bunch of
that cash, no chance't.

Speaker 1 (40:57):
Work it out. No, it'll happen teams. Teams will say, hey,
maybe won't be as big draft wise, but you'll be able.

Speaker 2 (41:03):
To move on.

Speaker 5 (41:03):
Figure out whatever coaching prospects wants to fix him.

Speaker 4 (41:06):
It makes too much sense not to happen.

Speaker 1 (41:08):
Coming up next, you want to know what else actually
makes more sense than you think it does to happen
in the NFL.

Speaker 4 (41:14):
Wait, don't we tell you that's next?

Speaker 1 (41:16):
Jason and Mike Fox close phone number, We're go try
to get him, and they got that number.

Speaker 4 (41:22):
Got okay, don't don't ring the bell again.

Speaker 1 (41:25):
Uh, And no fair coming in saying you're selling girl
Scout cookies.

Speaker 4 (41:28):
I'm not gonna open the door, all right.

Speaker 1 (41:30):
Bought the somosas last year and they were all all
whole bunch of crumbs in the bottom, and you gave
me the bad kind of the s'mores. Okay, like the
other kind of the spores. But now I know they
got rid of those, so ah, you can't fool me
with those now if they were. Actually we're going around
selling somosas. I'm in no, I'm telling you. And the
tag alongs too, then thin men's a lack to freeze,
and I like to bust them out like in the

(41:50):
middle of the summer like we're gone, But can't do
that with the tag along. Tag along got the peanut
butter and got I kinda kind of eat them all
the fresh samoas.

Speaker 5 (41:57):
Anyway, what I says, I said, some moses are delicious.
That would get a nice very Yeah, the spicy dipping,
sup would be a kind of green, interesting kind of cookie.

Speaker 4 (42:09):
I kinda dig that this cookie is awful.

Speaker 3 (42:11):
Just eat it.

Speaker 4 (42:12):
I spent six dollars on that. Just eat it.

Speaker 5 (42:16):
You don't really get a lot of bang for the
buck with the uh the Girl Scout cookies anymore.

Speaker 4 (42:21):
Now they raise the prices. It used to be so easy.

Speaker 1 (42:23):
Was oh, five dollars a box. Great, here's twenty dollars,
gonna be four boxes? No, now that's a six dollars
and twenty five cook Come on.

Speaker 4 (42:29):
I'm really talking about it on a per cookie basis too.

Speaker 1 (42:31):
Here's my buttony is not fulfilled it twenty give me
four boxes.

Speaker 4 (42:34):
We're good that.

Speaker 5 (42:35):
I'm eating them in the current state, you know, and
that's not on the menu for me. But but yes,
the the extra dollar which doesn't all go to your
to your troop donation.

Speaker 4 (42:46):
Yeah in kind now here you go here, just tell
you I didn't want any cookies anymore. Just gaps out.
Thought that was good. I thought it was getting the
tag a loog got those lemon cookies. Can't stand them.

Speaker 1 (42:54):
They're terrible, No, can't eat them at I'll just I
just throw them away and act that well, you know,
what I did was I gave a box to Zeke
after I cut him, and I said, hey, good luck
with the Chargers and maybe yellow hit lemon cookies, same thing,
color scheme.

Speaker 4 (43:08):
Here you go, take it go. Maybe maybe you work out.
And Zeke wound up getting with the Chargers.

Speaker 5 (43:12):
I'm about worked out for a little bit of a
yellow mixed in the in the color palette of the
team colors.

Speaker 4 (43:18):
So it all works together.

Speaker 1 (43:20):
So last hour we broke down the Bears and their
desire to talk to Mike McCarthy.

Speaker 4 (43:25):
Should talk to everybody, bring them through.

Speaker 1 (43:27):
That's the Bears and the Jets just showing you how
much they have no idea. They want to talk to everybody.
I read in the New York posts that I read.
Here's a list, it was updated list in exclusive list
of all of the coaches Jets want to talk to.
There were fourteen names for come on man.

Speaker 4 (43:45):
In other words, we have no idea what.

Speaker 1 (43:47):
We want work well. When we see a search, it's
a nationwide search. What's going to a speedbating come on man?
Like I feel like the leg It's like Hollywood when
you go, oh, how did you win that part?

Speaker 3 (43:58):
Well?

Speaker 1 (43:58):
So and so is a twelve year beat out six
thousand other people. Really, you're a director, go through six
thousand kids and try to figure out who you want
for a role. You couldn't tell Daniel Radcliffe was the
guy right away. Come on, like I thought, we have
a nationwide sir, we're gonna talk to fortye that you
have no idea what you want? You have absolutely no idea.
But the guy at the top of this list for
the Jets is Rex Ryan, who was continually trying to

(44:22):
talk his way back into the job.

Speaker 4 (44:26):
Of course, Rex Ryan Jets head coach during their big
heyday of.

Speaker 1 (44:30):
The early tens that it ended awfully, and now he's
still trying to get back into be the Jets head coach.
He goes a ninety eight to seven today in New
York and he talks about how, yeah, I got an
interview coming up, you know, talking to the Jets about it,
and if I come in, I'm going to make sure
that the Aaron Rodgers club med isn't happening anymore. And

(44:50):
I'm gonna lay down some discipline on this team. But
I am the right man.

Speaker 4 (44:54):
For this job.

Speaker 8 (44:54):
You think you're gonna get this job right, You think
you're going to be the next head coach of the Jets.

Speaker 3 (45:00):
I do.

Speaker 8 (45:00):
And the reason I think I'm gonna get it because
I'm the best guy. And it ain't close. The thing
that you have to do. You have to connect with
the football team. You have to connect with your fan
base and the way they play. That's the most important thing,
not just the x's and o's and all that. Look this,
Ben Johnson, I love him, I absolutely love him. But
I'm a better candidate for this job than he would be.

Speaker 1 (45:23):
Yeah, Ben Jonson is not going near the Jets. He
makes a good point about knowing what it takes together.
Now before I just start laughing at this, he makes
a good point. He understands the New York market, He
understands the Jets fan base. He was beloved when he
was the coach there. He didn't get the Jets a
two AFC CHAMPIONI game.

Speaker 5 (45:39):
My guy asking the question sounded like he was kind
of chuckling. Has he played you?

Speaker 3 (45:43):
Really?

Speaker 1 (45:44):
But here's the thing is like Rex Ryan still thinks
he's actually the head coach of the Jets. It's been
ten years, he still thinks he's the head coach.

Speaker 4 (45:55):
The wiz nobs he is. He still thinks he's the
head coach.

Speaker 1 (45:58):
He's like, he he left the Jets, got fired from
the Jets, took the job with the Bills just so
we could be close to the Jets, so he could
be in the same division. Because he still thought of
himself as a Jets head coach. It's just but I'm
coaching the Bills. When he's on television, he still thinks
to himself as a Jets head coach. He's like the
you know, the people you know, and I'm sure you
know people like this growing up.

Speaker 4 (46:19):
Everything go oh, I remember this couple. This couple like when.

Speaker 1 (46:21):
A couple breaks up and the one side knows that
this is for real. We are never getting back together.
I'm done. I'm moving on with my life. I'm dating
somebody else, I've moved cities, I've done all this, and
the other person is still well, we'll get back together eventually.

Speaker 4 (46:36):
I did.

Speaker 1 (46:36):
This adventure is just taking her on a different place
right now. But I will get back together. And I
still know what's going on with her, and I believe. Look,
we have a relationship that was so good. We're gonna
get back together. It just has to be the right time.
Oh now, she's single again. I heard her and her
husband got divorced. So now, oh now I'm gonna start
finding her on Facebook and I'm a messenger. Oh now

(46:58):
it's my chance to get back together. He is that
ten year stalker of the of the I'm still the
Jets head coach. It's still the ex that wants me back.
This is how he has behaved the entire times that
the Jets have fired him. It's like he's still thinking
some way he's a de facto coach and it still
goes through me.

Speaker 4 (47:16):
I'm still you talk about with.

Speaker 1 (47:17):
The Jets, and it's more than a little disturbing.

Speaker 4 (47:21):
I'm like, dude, he doesn't want to coach any other team.
He does want to go coach the Raiders, just want
to go coach the Jatuary.

Speaker 1 (47:26):
He wants to coach the Jets, And as a Jets fan,
I love that because how many people want to coach
my team? Nobody, because we're a laughing stock. At least
he wants to do it. But he still thinks that
that way of him, and he still thinks that, Yeah,
i haven't coached in ten years, but I'm gonna come
back and I'm gonna pick up right where he left off,
like I'm gonna go out to dinner one time with
my ex and all of a sudden, the old feelings

(47:47):
are all gonna come back, and we're gonna be moved
in together picking out furniture in a week, like that's
what he thinks is gonna happen. And again, the guy's
not been on the sideline for ten bleeping years.

Speaker 4 (47:55):
That's stupid wagon wheel years. I will never want that
wagon wheel.

Speaker 5 (48:01):
But no, your point is apt with Rex Ryan many
times the clips that you and I have gone back
and forth and Frostburg's laughed atches well.

Speaker 4 (48:11):
And sent them along.

Speaker 5 (48:12):
Is when he gets into we mode as if he
were still coaching, as if he were an advisor to
the Jets for the last decade. All right, last time
he was a head coach Buffalo in twenty sixteen, he
went seven and eight and that was the end of it.
I didn't even finish the season out as you roll through.

Speaker 4 (48:31):
So it's been a minute.

Speaker 5 (48:33):
But in terms of knowing the marketplace, knowing the ownership,
and this is where, yeah, I guess you do have
a bit of an in not to mention thirty third
team as the advisors and Tan and baham as part
of that.

Speaker 4 (48:45):
Great Hey Rex, Hey Mike, how you been good. Good
to catch up with you. That's great.

Speaker 5 (48:49):
Here's the list of questions we're gonna ask you. Prep them,
Prep them a lot, like you've gotten the answer key
before you walk in.

Speaker 4 (48:56):
Here's what he needs to hear on this and this
and this.

Speaker 5 (49:00):
But you kick the tires if nothing else, He's gonna
come in with the passion, knowledge and the love of
some portion of the fan base still loves him right,
all of that because he does identify with that job,
with that team is a foolhardy Sure is it another
three years of the spin cycle? Absolutely, because as we've

(49:21):
talked about with Jerry Jones so many times, and you
can point him out on the map across the NFL,
as long as ownership stays the same, nothing's gonna change. Hell,
the guy who put it best for the Bears was
Bleeping cmpunk. As part of the Netflix Christmas Games. They
had him on the sideline to talk about the premiere
of Raw coming to Netflix, and they asked him about

(49:42):
the Bears. He goes, yeah, n till ownership changes, it
really doesn't matter what the hell they do, and he's right.

Speaker 4 (49:48):
Look and that's why.

Speaker 1 (49:49):
Look, I am ready to understand. I understand We're just
never gonna be good. The owner is a clown, right,
Woody Johnson's a clown?

Speaker 4 (49:57):
What about Brick? And he's almost an age to actually
run things?

Speaker 1 (50:00):
Sweet Brick, He's walking around the locker room going low
pressure front, slow pressure foot it.

Speaker 5 (50:04):
But is it like being in the House of Representatives
or you gotta have an age limit to where you
can actually truly sign off on things.

Speaker 4 (50:13):
You gotta be eighteen, I mean, because I'll be able
to vote.

Speaker 1 (50:15):
I don't know nobody else wants this job. And that's
what I keep coming back to, is that why not
hire Rex Ryan Because at least it'll be if we're
gonna suck, sucking be fun, right, Because that's what's gonna happen.
Because nobody with options will take this job. Mike Vrabel
is not taking this job. He interviewed with the Jets.
Just let everybody know. Hey, I'm back, Hey New England.

(50:36):
You want me, you gotta I'm an interview with the Jets.
Oh we'll fire girod mao. Okay, Ben. The Jets aren't
even reaching out to Ben Johnson they're talking to fifteen
different I mean it, fifteen people. They're not reaching out
to him. You know why, because they know Ben Johnson
is gonna laugh in his face. They go, he's gonna
turn us down. He's got options. The Jets know nobody
with options is gonna come in and be the GM
or the head coach. So I'm like, it's embarrassing in

(50:58):
Rex run, but at least he wants the job, and we're.

Speaker 4 (51:01):
Gonna stink anyway. So okay.

Speaker 1 (51:03):
So I mean, I don't know, It's like, I'm okay
with whatever outcome happens because I know nothing's really gonna change.
So if nothing's gonna change, why not be fun? Why
not be fun? It'd be fun to see that Jackson,
Rex Ryan, you're back together and see, oh now I
remember why we broke up in the first place.

Speaker 4 (51:19):
Now I see this that. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (51:20):
The sad reality, though, Jason, is how much more chaotic
will it be? Will it be than what you've seen
the last couple of years? I mean, if we're gonna
put it on a scale, you're at nine and a half,
maybe nine and three quarters, maybe over that tipping point
once it gets you to ten. So you're jumping up
and down, going yeah, we made it. I mean, it's
already been an absolute disaster week after week and even

(51:42):
after this big performance with Rogers in the finale, much
like we had talked about at the end of last year,
watch he's gonna put up a giant show.

Speaker 4 (51:50):
And now everybody's gonna.

Speaker 5 (51:51):
Say, well, because they're gonna do what we did weeks ago,
look at the quarterback world and say what do you
have and what out there would be better? There ain't much.
So if you're Ben Johnson or someone you're not leaving
a situation whereby it's like, yeah, I'm gonna go have
the bridge with Aaron Rodgers or I'm gonna go have
the bridge with Kirk Cussy. You're not doing it because

(52:12):
you're not drafting high enough to go get that guy
of the future that is an obvious and ready air
apparent and next up kind of guy.

Speaker 4 (52:21):
We don't have that in this year's draft.

Speaker 5 (52:22):
Maybe you find him, Maybe there's a guy you fall
in love with if you're a big coaching prospect, and
certainly with Ben Johnson, I think you get a little
more latitude as to what he might decide he likes.
But for the Jets and Rex Ryan. No, the hell
is entertaining as hell for us, So give me two
or three years of that, I'll sign up for it.

Speaker 1 (52:40):
The Jets have put in request to interview Steelers offensive
coordator Arthur Smith.

Speaker 4 (52:45):
Bill's OC Joe Brady. I think it was the cartoon guy, Arthur.
Is he gonna have that fist balled up the whole time?
Like the medium?

Speaker 1 (52:54):
They want to talk to Lines DC Aaron Glenn for me,
just good well, Mike, the Jets do love fists.

Speaker 4 (53:00):
Goes to Okay, that was an I can am poly joke. Okay,
get it?

Speaker 1 (53:05):
Uh, Broncos DC Vance, Joseph Chiefs, O C. Matt Naggy like,
what the hell are you doing? But okay, I know
the list is going. Brian Flores, Vikings Defense for whatever.
They want another Brian everybody named Brian.

Speaker 5 (53:17):
Did they cross Brian Flores off after Jamior Gibbs ran wild?

Speaker 1 (53:21):
They want Niners quarterback coach Brian Greasy. Oh okay, and
you know it's still not done. They want Viking clown
to make them a bicycle. They want Vikings quarterback coach
Josh mccowm. They want Texans O see Bobby Slowick. These
are all people. I mean, how many people come on, Man,
it's a what.

Speaker 4 (53:36):
What a couter this year? You still want to talk
to Bobby Slowick?

Speaker 1 (53:39):
Like I said, it's it's they're just going to fail.
Nothing's going to change, So at least be fun and
it's and it's to go back. I'm going, Yeah, it's
embarrassing that Rex Ryan is going to stalk the Jets
into giving his job back.

Speaker 4 (53:55):
But this is the reality, this is the hand.

Speaker 5 (53:57):
But there's the headline for the clip that will go
up on TikTok and Instagram out of this segment.

Speaker 4 (54:03):
The idea of it, you'll at least be fun. Yeah,
if we're gonna lose, we're gonna lose. We're gonna be terrible.

Speaker 5 (54:10):
So why are we gonna fail? Fail spectacularly? Is long
a mantra of the show.