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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:21):
This is the best of the Jason Smith Show with
Mike Harmon on Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 3 (00:34):
This is Steve Desager and our Fox Sports Radio studios
in Los Angeles. We're still hooking up with the guys
who are on location show, we say, and while the
WiFi is not completely down here at the studio, there
have been. It's been a spotty mess that is not
helping and getting in connection with our two hosts. So
momentarily that's gonna happen. We've got a lot of football
to discuss this evening either way, and a guy who

(00:56):
played for three NFL teams this season, the third team
even said goodbye to him because Deontay Johnson is I
won't say out of the league, but he is out
of a job yet again. The Texans today waved wide
receiver Deontay Johnson after only two games. There, now his
first team in the league, he lasted a few years.
This year three different teams started with Carolina, then Baltimore,

(01:20):
then Houston, and remember the Ravens had suspended him before
they cut him, and then a team that's still in
the playoffs. The Texans waved Deontay Johnson today. Houston wide
receiver Robert Woods missed practice with a hip injury. Tight
End Dalton Schultz was limited with a shoulder injury. Houston
tight end Cad Stover was placed on injury reserve. Golden Headphones.

(01:42):
Just in his nickname, he is Steve.

Speaker 1 (01:45):
You're blaming on the Wi Fi. Did the Knicks lose?

Speaker 3 (01:48):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:49):
If only that could be blamed on the lost last night?

Speaker 4 (01:51):
Right?

Speaker 1 (01:52):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:52):
And in fact, Karl Anthony Town's questionable for Wednesday because
he got hurt last night, sprained right thumb.

Speaker 1 (01:57):
I knew it was not definitely out, but there will
be some.

Speaker 5 (02:01):
Sort of I knew it was Nicks related, Steve.

Speaker 3 (02:03):
I wanted to bring you in, not only because Jason's
not here, so we don't have to talk about the
Knicks or the Mets or the Jets. But you were
in Houston at the Texans playoff game over the weekend.
That was a game where I know forever and history
it's written in ink.

Speaker 1 (02:19):
They won a playoff game.

Speaker 3 (02:22):
They were down six nothing to the Chargers late in
the first half. Your impressions of the playoff game that
opened wild Card weekend?

Speaker 1 (02:29):
Ooh, I don't know if I'm ready.

Speaker 3 (02:31):
To talk about it yet, Steve, because fair to say,
as objective as I can be, for three quarters, neither
team was terribly impressive.

Speaker 5 (02:40):
Fair to say, oh, it was such a winnable game.
That's I think, that's absolutely absolutely it was. And justin Herbert,
we'd never seen him.

Speaker 1 (02:47):
Play this bad.

Speaker 3 (02:48):
I wouldn't put all four reception interceptions on him. Doesn't matter.
It's an L and Houston. Of course, you noticed got
that time slot. They've maybe playoffs eight times. All eight
times they put him in the afternoon time slot to
open wild card weekends. Keep them as far away out, yeah,
keep them game from frontime. No say guess what, guess

(03:09):
where they're playing. It's even the Chiefs is the opponent
this weekend, Houston has the afternoon time slot to begin
the divisional playoffs.

Speaker 1 (03:17):
This Saturday, four teen via taxas Houston playing first on Wildcard.

Speaker 3 (03:21):
Week, so ESPN kind of gets stuck with the Texans
no offense. But we'll get to the ratings in just
a moment. Do you know that Chiefs hosted and beat
Houston not that long ago, just before Christmas twenty seven
to nineteen. Any predictions on what Patrick Mahomes is going
to look like?

Speaker 1 (03:36):
People will have.

Speaker 3 (03:37):
Already complained that he hasn't had a Mahomes like season
this year. By the way, they are the one seed.
They didn't have to play this past weekend. This is
still a good team and a great time to play
all year, they didn't They didn't score over thirty points
in a single game this year and still had the
best record in the neat two.

Speaker 1 (03:55):
You got the refs on your side, makes things easy. Okay.

Speaker 3 (03:58):
That is the Chargers producer speaking, and fifteen and two
was the record. It's a great defense and they do
have I mentioned this on one of the shows in
the last couple of days talking about the Chargers post mortem.
You could see once they get got into the playoffs
that it's just year one of Harbaugh as coach. Such
an improvement over the previous year and the previous regime.

(04:21):
I mean from the start it was an obvious cultural change,
and then it wound up in the standings and obvious change.

Speaker 1 (04:27):
Steve.

Speaker 5 (04:28):
They won five games last year, that's right, and went
from double digit losses to double digit wins in one year.
I mean, I can't tell you lifelong charge of Fanny.
I cannot tell you how good it is to have
a real football head coach. Never had it before.

Speaker 3 (04:43):
So Houston winds up leading ten to six in the
third quarter, which kind of showed to me the game
as it progressed last Saturday. What they don't have yet
on this roster compared to pretty much every other playoff
roster that we saw this past weekend. They don't have
healthy go to running back every game for a full season.
I don't even mean Sekuon Barkley. I just mean a healthy,

(05:06):
reliable running back. It doesn't mean that JK. Dobbins can't
be that guy, but the health has been an issue
in his young career every time. The other thing is
as wonderful as the draft choice was in the second
round of Lad McConkie.

Speaker 1 (05:21):
From George God, what a golden fine.

Speaker 3 (05:23):
A thousand yard receiver. He turns out to be you
see on the other side of the ball last weekend,
a guy that can be an a one receiver for years.
Nico Collins said seven catches one hundred and twenty two
yards for Houston.

Speaker 1 (05:37):
And a touchdown ever heard of them?

Speaker 3 (05:38):
And James Cook the next day for Buffalo. It's just
that kind of at the skill positions on offense.

Speaker 1 (05:44):
I'm talking about.

Speaker 3 (05:45):
It's that kind of player that the Chargers just don't
possess at this point after year one of the hardball regime.
So they won double digits this year. Yes, the schedule
will get harder, but I assume the roster will get better.

Speaker 5 (05:59):
That absolutely will. They crushed the draft last year. I
expect him to crush it again, Steve.

Speaker 3 (06:03):
And that was also the way Harbaugh was gonna go
when they lost for financial reasons. Let's be quite frank
that they went all in the previous year and crashed
and burned spectacularly and fired the coach before the year
was over, and then had to make a choice. We
can't keep all of these guys, so Bosa was kept

(06:23):
and Khalil Mack was kept. Keenan Allen, no Mike Williams
at wide, receiver. No, so they had very little at
white out this year and still I know first months
of the season they didn't pass much at all, but
still it wound up roughly twenty three touchdown passes, three interceptions,
I think for Justin Nerber for the season.

Speaker 1 (06:41):
Crazy.

Speaker 3 (06:42):
So for him to have that game last weekend after
yet another good season, and he's had five good seasons
in this league.

Speaker 1 (06:49):
That was a notable bad game.

Speaker 3 (06:51):
But there was a total of seven turnovers in the game,
only about half from the visitors. So as we get
into this matchup on Saturday, Kansas City hosting Houston, of
course it should be the Chiefs winning this. Houston average
scoring just twenty two points a game in the regular season,
which is quite low for a playoff team. Kansas City's
defense is there and not just this year. Chris Jones,

(07:13):
by the way, practicing and just fine. He'd had the
calf injury. Patrick Mahomes full practice today after the ankle injury.
He's had three weeks off.

Speaker 5 (07:23):
Mahomes by, Yeah, we actually have a caller, So, okay
wants to talk some Charger Charger football here, Let's go.

Speaker 1 (07:31):
To the line, West La. Hello, you're on the show.

Speaker 4 (07:35):
Hi, This is Sharon Moore. I really had trouble at
quarterback this year, so I wonder if you have any advice,
if you could talk to Jim Harbaugh what I should
do for next year, because well, he took all the
good guys with him when he left.

Speaker 3 (07:48):
He took the whole staff with him as well, not
just players. I will add to that, mister Jason Smith.
Can you somehow get JJ McCarthy to reverse eligibility and
have him go backwards to Michigan because you know he
didn't play. Is that some sort of red shirt that
he can.

Speaker 4 (08:04):
Go by he didn't play again? Well, now, listen, the
rules in college football now are so crazy. As long
as he doesn't play five games in the NFL, he
can go back to college whenever he wants to.

Speaker 6 (08:15):
That's my game.

Speaker 4 (08:16):
Yes, he could have started the first four games of
this year right Green Bay, Detroit, Chicago, San Francisco, and
then he doesn't play and then he goes back to school.
It works. That's how the rules work now.

Speaker 1 (08:26):
So it's kind of like a JC year is really
what it counts like. I think he will go backwards for.

Speaker 4 (08:32):
The next five minutes it does, and then then it
will change. So, but for right now, these are the rules.

Speaker 3 (08:37):
It's awesome now as well as you called, we're talking
about the Houston Texans, a team that doesn't have much
offense compared to a lot of the other playoff teams
that we're seeing. Is it just as obvious as it
seems that the Chiefs, despite the time off and it's
a lot of time off for the amount of people
they set in the regular season finale, that the Chiefs
should eventually roll, not just win pretty easily at home

(09:01):
on Saturday to open the divisional playoffs.

Speaker 4 (09:03):
Well, I gotta say this, and I know it's uh,
you know, it's only Tuesday, and usually don't make these
these decisions and these stick until the end of the week.
But as you can tell, we're in a really crazy
show right now. This is the charge of postgame show
that I'm calling it. Normally, the show that's on in
this in this time slot is fantastic. I think a
great job.

Speaker 6 (09:23):
I think a great job.

Speaker 4 (09:27):
Steve, You're doing a great job. Justin You're doing a
great job. It's a great show. It's the most fun
shown on Fox Sports Radio. You should get rid of
the guys who are on this side slot. They don't
talk about their favorite teams enough. I need to hear
more about the Jets. I don't get it. I don't
hear more about them, get it. I need more things

(09:47):
like that like this on the show. You guys talking
about your teams. This is what I need.

Speaker 3 (09:51):
Actually we're talking playoffs, which of course would not be
a Jets conversation.

Speaker 1 (09:55):
Bears.

Speaker 3 (09:56):
We just as the show began this hour, this segment,
we he said this out loud, but you know that
we were thinking this anyway. It was our one opportunity
to have an opening now hour without mentioning the Jets.

Speaker 1 (10:08):
Or the Knicks. Oh, it's phenomenal. Therefore, I thought we
would take advantage.

Speaker 4 (10:14):
Well, I think you guys have done a great job.
I really do, and I think that listen. I think
maybe a National Charger postgame show has a big future.

Speaker 3 (10:24):
Can we ask as far as tonight's show, can we
go behind the curtain that it's actually possible that you
and or Mike could be on the show tonight, that
it's just on.

Speaker 1 (10:35):
The show right now, it's.

Speaker 3 (10:36):
Just I'm on the show technically you are, that it's
just a technical glitch, and that we'll get things back
and you never know.

Speaker 1 (10:44):
It's not like you're out of state, right.

Speaker 4 (10:46):
I can't tell you how fast I got When Frostburg said, hey,
technical stuff, you gotta come in, it was it was
like a pit stop and Nastro I was like, shoes jacket,
I'm gone. My wife is like, what's happen to go
going in? Go take food? I go, no time I
go order food. Just take something. I go. No, I
have no time. I gotta go. I gotta get on

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the show start. It's already started. And who knows what
kind of charger stuff is being set on the air
right now.

Speaker 1 (11:14):
So I had think, who had McConkie on this fantasy team. Yes,
they don't won the lead.

Speaker 4 (11:20):
This might be the you know, this might be the
future of radio at some point where you know, instead
of being in a studio to people just do shows
from their cars as they're driving. And that's part of
the thing is, Oh they're driving and talking and doing
a show. Look at the look at the multi purposes
that's going on here.

Speaker 3 (11:36):
I have seen ze I have seen talk shows with
Zoom and one of the two co hosts is talking
in his.

Speaker 1 (11:43):
Cars, and you can do a whole other show and
just hang up on you.

Speaker 3 (11:47):
By the way, can you confer it's not just me.
The traffic in Los Angeles has been unexpectedly superb in
recent days for obvious reasons.

Speaker 1 (11:57):
But the traffic has been great.

Speaker 4 (11:59):
Yeah, except you say that. And now I get in
my car and I'm at a standstill. I haven't even
gotten to the ten yet. And I don't know what's happened.
It showed me a half hour driving into work, and
then in the last couple of minutes it's gone forty
forty five. So something must have happened in front of me.
Maybe I will double as a traffic person. It's an
office like you just got to play the who bloh

(12:19):
bloh blah blah blah blah blah blah. Half on the
final fives. Here's traffic on the fourth. Jason Smick, what
do you see? We'll believing in the fool. I see
there's a poor trying to get to work and it's
really not going to be a long time. It's gonna
be a while before they've got there. Oh boy, living
there's Jason Strick. You are completely screwed. Ont's come back
to the studio.

Speaker 1 (12:38):
How the Jets finish their uh, interview with John Eric Sullivan.

Speaker 4 (12:41):
Yet you mean the kid from Malcolm in the Middle
who played Dewey. He got an interview. Wow, that's pretty cool.

Speaker 1 (12:48):
Well, as long as the interim guy, you may as
well just keep going.

Speaker 4 (12:53):
Well, look, I don't even think some of these names
the Jets are talking to now are real. I don't think.
I think they're just throwing names out there look like
they're doing it.

Speaker 6 (13:00):
They're just making suck's been done for years.

Speaker 1 (13:02):
Joe Walton. I think Joe Walton is next.

Speaker 4 (13:05):
They're going through their high school yearbooks looking at names,
going ah, this dude was funny. I'll say we interviewed him.
Oh that's great.

Speaker 6 (13:10):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (13:11):
And for those who didn't hear, former Jets coach Robert
Sala did interview with Jacksonville today for that head coach opening,
and without harmon here, I'll mention that his bears are
due to officially interview former Cowboys head coach Mike McCarthy
on Wednesday, and the Saints are expected to talk to
him next week. Of course, McCarthy just let go as
they couldn't agree on a new deal with the Cowboys.

(13:32):
His playoff record in five years with Dallas was one
and three. That's not the kind of thing that would
keep you from getting a Bears job, you would think. Nonetheless,
those are the facts.

Speaker 4 (13:43):
You know. My favorite part about the solid story is that, uh,
you know what was his biggest thing in New York.
The defense was great, but boy, he really couldn't get
anything offense to the offense, they're terrible. He couldn't bring
along a young quarterback. They got rid of Zach Wilson,
he got fired. What are they gonna have him doing Jacksonville. Well,
you got to kind of bring along Trevor Lawrence and
make him into something that's really good. Like we've seen

(14:05):
that fail, Like we've seen him failed exactly what you're
gonna ask him to do. But I guess maybe the
Jaguars are throwing the hands up saying, well, always the
defense will be good. I don't know. The defense will
be good, but the offensive I don't know. I mean, like,
how is he the guy gets the interview on a
team that needs somebody with a big offensive background to
hopefully unleash You know, it is one of the ninth

(14:27):
year of his contract for Trevor Lawrence that he's finally
gonna be good.

Speaker 5 (14:30):
You guys want there?

Speaker 1 (14:31):
They did have something rush, Yes, what does this have
to do with the charger game? The hell is this
guy talking about?

Speaker 6 (14:42):
No more call Steve?

Speaker 4 (14:43):
No more calls Stave Show?

Speaker 3 (14:45):
I would add Jacksonville is probably just like the Bears,
where they've got a list of ten or twelve names.
Let's just crash through these and meet with as many
people as we can get here. I look like we're
lost anyway as a franchise. Let's just go through it.

Speaker 4 (15:00):
Well, that's how you win, you know, forget about the
old philosophy that works at Hey, you're a destination. You
hear one or two names, and that's the name that
winds up being the coach. No, no, no, let's have
a nationwide search. Let's get to like twenty twenty five
names like and you show me you have no idea
what you want or what you're looking for? Without telling

(15:20):
you you have no idea what you want you're looking for?
Instead of talking to one or two people, Now let's
say we don't know these ideas they might have. Let's
talk to sixteen, seventeen, eighteen people. We don't know what
we're looking for. We know we want, we have no idea.
Let's just do this and really show everybody. Boy, we
just have no clue.

Speaker 5 (15:36):
Steve, I think detections just scored again, that's not possible.

Speaker 1 (15:40):
It's detections.

Speaker 3 (15:42):
Jason Smith, can you say before we break here that
for sure this hour you'll be here in studio, I'm
gonna go.

Speaker 4 (15:51):
Dion Sanders from last night where I uh where, when
he was asked about his injuring the Cowboys just I'm
very happy and Boulder and it's very flattering they called me.
So there's no confirmation, no denial. I will say that
I'm going to do my best to get there as
fast as I bleep and can, and that includes driving

(16:12):
on two wheels. However, I'm not gonna say I will
definitely be there at eight o'clock.

Speaker 1 (16:18):
So, in other words, he's saying, I'm very happy to
be in my car and I'm glad you called me.
So let's take a break here.

Speaker 3 (16:24):
Listening to Fox Sports Radio, we have so much more
on the NFL and today's news and the playoffs coming
for the weekend, and we'll get to the TV ratings
for this past weekend that are now out. Who had
the top rated game of all the wild card weekend matchups.
We'll get to that on Fox Sports Radio in a moment.

Speaker 1 (16:41):
All right.

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Speaker 3 (17:57):
You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Live from Los Angeles.
I'm Steve de Seger. Our normal evening co hosts are
on their way in Jason Smith and Mike Harmon Harmon
Chicago Bulls were losers at home tonight, two New Orleans
one nineteen to one. Thirteen New Orleans was eight and
thirty two coming in. We'll get to the NFL TV
ratings over the weekend in a moment, but I will

(18:17):
mention to our beloved Jason Smith. Once you get past
the Getty center of the four or five, things are okay.
It's just anybody driving the four or five freeway in La.
Of course, you can't take an off ramp due to
the fires. Literally every off ramp is closed, so there
is that you're kind of literally stuck on.

Speaker 1 (18:36):
The freeway once you get on that freeway.

Speaker 3 (18:39):
But does anybody have a guess on what might have
been the highest rated NFL playoff game over the weekend. Now,
we had a couple on Saturday, we had three on Sunday,
we had the Monday night game with the Rams win
in Arizona against the Vikings, which was the most viewed.

Speaker 1 (18:54):
As the TV ratings are out for the Wildcard week, well,
I think everybody was waiting to see Saquon Barkley. It
was in fact equal. Yeah, it was Packers and Eagles
on Sunday afternoon.

Speaker 3 (19:05):
And I won't say it was the equal of having
a Cowboys game in that slot because it was down
about ten percent from when it was Packers Cowboys last year.
But memo to the NFL, there's no Dallas Cowboys in
the playoffs this year, so your ratings are just not
going to equal what a Cowboys game can normally give you.
By the way, what's the highest rated NFL game of

(19:27):
the whole season? Still, it's the Cowboys Thanksgiving game on
Fox's No, clearly, No, you didn't say the game twice
and three times.

Speaker 8 (19:37):
No.

Speaker 3 (19:38):
The number three game on the list for the whole
season now is that Packers Eagles Wildcard game on Fox.
About thirty five million viewers last Sunday last night got
twenty five million the Monday night game. And that's if
you add up ABC and ESPN and the Manning cast
all of that for Vikings Rams was twenty five million.

(19:59):
One one was Packers Eagles. And this is really an
indication of a couple of things. One how strong the
NFL audiences are compared to other sports audiences, and then
the obvious that it just dwarfs any other program in
all of television, drama, comedy, documentary, whatever you can throw
up there, Packers Eagles, And like most of the games

(20:22):
this weekend, you know, it wasn't one that you're going
to write home about. Thirty five million people were watching
this thing. So we expect better ratings and better matchups
as we get to the division.

Speaker 5 (20:33):
Guys, imagine the ratings had Jordan Love been vocal.

Speaker 3 (20:39):
In case you didn't hear, that's apparently the new tack
for green Bay. And okay, this is kind of a
Jets mentioned I don't want to violate our pact here
justin but the guy who was the quarterbacks coaching Green
Bay that Aaron Rodgers said, can you please come back
and unretire and be my assistant coaching green Tom Clements,
is actually retiring now. The veteran quarterbacks coach for the

(21:01):
Packers is saying this is it? How old is he
He was Notre Dame's quarterback over fifty years ago when
they and USC were dominating college football nineteen seventy two
to seventy four. Tom Clements was the Irish quarterback for
those three years, including the undefeated team in nineteen seventy three,
probably start for the Jets.

Speaker 4 (21:20):
Wait a minute, Wait a minute, plait. Roger Clemens was
coaching Jordon Love and grants amazing.

Speaker 1 (21:26):
Tom Clemens with a tea thank you. And while we're talking.

Speaker 3 (21:31):
While we're talking, Notre Dame, Tommy Reeves is in the
news today because the Browns are promoting him at age
thirty two to offensive coordinator, former Notre Dame quarterback, former
Notre Dame offensive coordinator. And the great story is Tommy
Reeve's dad was Cleveland's director of player personnel about twenty
years ago for five years. So Tommy Reeves grew up

(21:52):
with the Browns and in fact was the Cleveland Browns
ball boy at one point.

Speaker 1 (21:57):
And now he is the Cleveland Browns all offensive coordinator.
Now it's a title. Literally have Jesus as their offensive coordinator.

Speaker 3 (22:06):
Will no, no, because that occurred with Notre Dame in
that as a recall offense didn't look for Again, that's
a plot.

Speaker 4 (22:12):
Of Draft Day. What are you talking about? Bah Boy coaches,
a team fires, his dad, dad dies of a heart attack.
He takes over the team. Hey, spoiler alert, they trod
a quarterback, then they trade back to get draft picks.
That's the plot of Draft Day.

Speaker 3 (22:25):
I feel like we say that phrase every other night
here on this show with you, mister movie spoiler alert.
Tommy rees promoted by the Browns at a very young age.
Now it's let's go back to the Rams from last night.
As an example, Sean mcmay was facing a guy who
was his offensive coordinator. Right Kevin became the Vikings head

(22:47):
coach after being a Sean McVay assistant, he had the
offensive coordinator title. You and I both know that Sean
McVay didn't give up play calling duties. The next thing
to see in Cleveland is that mean Kevin Stefanski is
going to be the play call in Cleveland. It doesn't
mean this assistant is doing nothing. But usually when you
think offensive coordinator, it's automatically play caller. Recent years, especially

(23:08):
in the NFL, that's not necessarily the case. Jase does
mean it's not worth being on staff or anything like that.
It's just not the last stop on the play.

Speaker 4 (23:18):
Well, look, I think when you when you're when you're
trying to look at the age of guys and and
how old they are, why not. I mean, this is
one of those This is one of those hiring cycles
in the NFL where there are no great candidates.

Speaker 8 (23:34):
You know, what do we see last night?

Speaker 4 (23:36):
Beyond's name is out there. I'm sure John Gruden is
going come on phone ring ring. I'm of at three
thirty in the morning every day, ring ring. So now
you're getting a lot of unconventional phone calls. It's like, well,
we're not Mike Vrabel's gone, We're probably not going to
get Ben Johnson. Everybody else's kind of is like ten
miles behind. So why not why not give somebody young.

(23:57):
Maybe we get the next Mike Tomlin. Maybe we don't
and we get the next Adam Gase, but maybe we do,
and maybe it works out that way. So I think
that this is going to become more of the norm
than it is the outlier over this hiring cycle, just
because there's not a lot of guys out there.

Speaker 1 (24:14):
Hm. And we'll talk about Tomlin as we go down
the road.

Speaker 3 (24:17):
Jason Smith, we will see you in person shortly you
and Mike Harmon and for the rest of the show
in studio. We look forward to that and thank you
for joining us part time on the way up to
the studios.

Speaker 1 (24:31):
Let's get to the music. It's bottom of the hour.

Speaker 3 (24:33):
Let's get an update because there are NBA games going
on and the Denver Nuggets are already leading late first
half sixty four to thirty nine.

Speaker 1 (24:41):
At Dallas.

Speaker 3 (24:41):
Jamal Murray has twenty eight points already for the Dallas MAVs.
They do have Kyrie Irving playing tonight after the bad
back he had missed five games. Irving is three of ten,
nine points, but a huge deficit for the home team
there the late game, and I mean nobody outside at
Brooklyn Portland is going to pay attention to this. The Nets,

(25:01):
who've lost five in a row, are leading twenty seven
to twenty four against the Blazers late in the first quarter.
The Sacramento Kings had won seven in a row, but
trailed by twenty one after the first quarter. At Milwaukee,
the Bucks beat The Kings won thirty to one, fifteen.
New Orleans a winner at Chicago one nineteen one thirteen.
The Pelicans had been eight and thirty two this year.

(25:22):
At Atlanta, Tree Young with forty three points in a
close win over Phoenix won twenty two to one seventeen.
DeAndre Hunter of the Hawks, averaging nineteen points a game,
was out with a sore foot, and both Cleveland and
Oklahoma City each one again. Cleveland is thirty four and
five after a victory at Indiana won twenty seven one seventeen.
Donovan Mitchell thirty five points. The Pacers six game winning

(25:44):
streak is over. Tyrese Haliburton of the Pacers was out
tonight with a strang groin. Philadelphia did not have due
to injuries Joel Embiid, Paul George or Tyrese Maxi, and
they were hosting Oklahoma City, a team that's now thirty
three and six. He has won eighteen of its last
nineteen games. The Thunder one at Philadelphia one eighteen one

(26:04):
oh two. Shay Gilgess Alexander started ten of ten shooting
from the floor, thirty two points for him. Joel Embiid
is missing a fifth straight game tonight with his spraying foot.
Paul George sat out with a sore ankle. And Tyrese
Maxi was out with a left hand injury. Upset in
college basketball at number four Alabama twenty first ranked ole
Miss took him down seventy four to sixty four.

Speaker 1 (26:27):
Near upset at De Paul.

Speaker 3 (26:29):
This is a DePaul team that did not have a
conference win this year and yet took number seven ranked
Marquette to overtime. Marquette wins at eighty five eighty three
college basket started. You could you can write that down
in pen It has actually started. We're in mid January,
not in mid March. And DePaul is oh to seven
in the Big East. Now Victory's four, Auburn over Mississippi

(26:49):
State for Kentucky, which beat Texas A and M, and
Illinois dominated at Indiana. Among the NHL games and there
are thirteen, Boston beat Tampa Bay six to two. The
Texans way wide receiver Deontay Johnson after two games there.
Lions running back David Montgomery participated fully at walk through
after last month's knee injury, and also for Detroit, defensive

(27:11):
back Terry and Arnold was a full participant. News from
Washington that linebacker Bobby Wagner missed practice with an ankle
injury and wide receiver Jamison Crowder rested because of his hamstring.
Washington's kicker here last weekend, Zane Gonzalez limited in practice
by a hip injury, and a reminder of the College
football National Championship Game isn't until Monday night in Atlanta.

(27:33):
The reason, as we saw with the early rounds of
the college playoffs, they don't want to go up against
the NFL on TV. So Monday night we've got seven
seed Notre Dame against eight seed Ohio State. That's the
fourteen and one Irish underdogs against the Buckeyes, who are
thirteen and two. Ohio State this year was ten and
one until losing that game at home to Michigan thirteen

(27:56):
to ten.

Speaker 1 (27:56):
Completely laid an egg.

Speaker 3 (27:57):
And here they are on the verge of a national
title anyway, because since then, Ohio State has beaten up
Tennessee and beaten up number one Oregon easy wins there,
and then they eliminated Texas twenty eight to fourteen. That
game was tied mid fourth quarter.

Speaker 1 (28:10):
What time does the USC play? That's a no, what
do you mean?

Speaker 8 (28:16):
No?

Speaker 3 (28:17):
I believe USC basketball men's and women's is in progress. No,
I've looked no, there is no us.

Speaker 5 (28:25):
It's funny that you brought up David Montgomery.

Speaker 3 (28:27):
There because he's playing and didn't have surgery. We actually
know the guy who was responsible for his injury. We do, Yeah,
we do, and he's on the phone right now standing
by collar collar.

Speaker 4 (28:42):
Hi, this is Dan Campbell. Spore down. I'm going for it.
I'm going it is not my fault that it's not
my fault that David Montgomery got hurt. And now we're back,
so it's all good.

Speaker 5 (28:55):
It was not.

Speaker 4 (28:55):
He did an interview with us, he had a good time,
we talked about his nickname, and the next game he
got hurt.

Speaker 2 (29:01):
That is not related.

Speaker 1 (29:03):
That is not the true story.

Speaker 3 (29:04):
Now, I don't remember the show being a kiss of
death because we've had plenty of other guys after playoff games,
college and pro on this show.

Speaker 4 (29:12):
Sure, and but but of course the guys that keep
coming to mind right now are, well, Mike Woodson came
on the show and boy thinks I haven't been really
good for Indiana and they lost by fifty tonight. Okay,
so that's the first thing that came to my mind.

Speaker 5 (29:24):
So this guy offered Knuckles, who is a vegetarian or
doesn't eat any fish or anything.

Speaker 1 (29:31):
What was he a vegan?

Speaker 5 (29:33):
Wanted him to go sign Sonic burger Steve David Montgomery, Yeah,
oh my goodness.

Speaker 1 (29:40):
Did you actually no?

Speaker 5 (29:41):
No?

Speaker 4 (29:42):
Yeah, well, because obviously there's Sonic and Knuckle.

Speaker 1 (29:45):
Next day he's hurt.

Speaker 9 (29:46):
There's no Knuckle, there's no knuckleburger anywhere.

Speaker 4 (29:48):
I would have said that he doesn't have to eat
while he is at Sonic. He should just go and
sign the autographs while Jamir Gibbski, Jamir Gibsky, Okay, Sonic
come here, you just gotta sign autographs.

Speaker 3 (29:58):
I was look at a way to get him some money,
and you could have the shakes and the frozen drink
and just avoid the meat altogether.

Speaker 4 (30:04):
Exactly. You're just about size, is not about hey coming
here to eat food. Now you're showing up there, he's
just signing autograph.

Speaker 5 (30:10):
Not only did you not get the money, but you
cost him money.

Speaker 1 (30:14):
Must cost him his career.

Speaker 4 (30:16):
How did I cost money? And that makes sense?

Speaker 1 (30:19):
I still get paid. He wasn't suspended, he was just injured.

Speaker 4 (30:24):
By the despending h After the interview on Fox Sports
rad yeah, well if they had heard it, sure, Yeah,
that might be a separate thing.

Speaker 1 (30:30):
That was a great interview tel Sonic.

Speaker 4 (30:33):
It was fine, and he just listen and he just
said what I said, Hey, you should sign something at Sonic.
He said I'm gonna pass on that. Okay, great, And
then I found out he was a vegssari. Okay, so
all right.

Speaker 1 (30:43):
But later that same night, I have a burger.

Speaker 4 (30:45):
I didn't go go do this. I didn't say that.
Just said, hey, go to Sonic. And if there was
a knuckles place that had knuckles in it, I would say,
go there and and and find autographs.

Speaker 1 (30:53):
You know what, you're gonna get a knuckle.

Speaker 3 (30:57):
You're going serious, point Jason about the Detroit Lions, because
after the bye week for them to start the postseason,
they were, after all, the one seed in the NFC
fifteen and two they're gonna be on Fox TV Saturday
night hosting a Washington team that's won six in a row.

Speaker 1 (31:12):
Two points. Two questions for you.

Speaker 3 (31:14):
One, are you as shocked as I that Montgomery apparently
will be his old self, not just active, but a
regular part of the offense when he could have had
surgery and we wouldn't see him in the playoffs at all. Second,
Washington being the hot team with the hot rookie quarterback.
How much of a chance do you give them at Detroit?

Speaker 4 (31:33):
All right, I'll take the first part of the question first.
I'm going to answer that.

Speaker 1 (31:37):
Look, as long as you don't say, I'll take the
rest off the air, and.

Speaker 4 (31:42):
I'll take it off the air. Thanks guys doing a
great job. This is a great show. It's awesome. So look,
I'm not surprised David Montgomery, because look, the guy wants
to play. Of course, this is a super Bowl or
bust year for the Lions, and guys are gonna do
anything they can to be part of it.

Speaker 1 (31:56):
But it wasn't knee injury. It was no small than.

Speaker 4 (32:00):
Well, I don't think for a second they're going to
put him out there if they really you know, it
was like, okay, the case of reinjury.

Speaker 9 (32:06):
Is really big.

Speaker 4 (32:07):
I don't think that was going to happen. I mean, look,
and quite honestly, if he goes out there and he's
not feeling it or he is not his normal self,
Jamir Gibbs, since the injury has been terrific. He's the
better running back. He's he's electric. I would take him
over any other running back in the NFL right now
the last game, Yeah, Otis, I take him over Curtis Martin.

(32:27):
I take him over Saquon I take him over Derrick
Henry because of what he does, the pressure he puts
on the other defense, catch the ball out of the
back field running, he can handle twenty plus touches a game.
Like if you're saying, hey, boy, this injury really hurt
us in Detroit, it's boy now that they had to
give the ball more to Jamir Gibbs, and look, the
offense has been fantastic.

Speaker 1 (32:47):
And what about the chances for Washington Saturday Night.

Speaker 4 (32:51):
I have family that listened to the show every night,
that texts me every day. You really think I'm going
to pick plus?

Speaker 1 (32:58):
Really think they got me all Michigan people.

Speaker 4 (33:01):
I know they got me for Christmas.

Speaker 2 (33:03):
I can't do that.

Speaker 3 (33:05):
So officially, you're saying, Washington commanders have no chance in
Detroit Saturday Night.

Speaker 5 (33:11):
No Detroit Detroit forty eight, Washington negative fix Steve, you
know what that means, Washington and the ballou seventh straight
win for No.

Speaker 4 (33:19):
This is like a day for Jayden Daniels three hundred
through the air and two hundred on the ground.

Speaker 1 (33:24):
This would like be asking Harmon and friends about the
Bears in the Middeast. Oh, I thought you met like
it was a mini didco? Okay, only forty two to two?
Then that kind of thing.

Speaker 5 (33:34):
We should call Hollis Hall or Hallis Hall will get
a hold of Harmony.

Speaker 3 (33:38):
Pallace Hall, Well, we will ball, we will break now.
We will have both of our co hosts in studio shortly.
And a reminder, that is the Fox TV game Saturday Night,
Washington and Detroit. This Washington franchise that hadn't won a
playoff game since the two thousand and five season until
Sunday Night, had been owned five since in the post

(34:00):
and now their run defense is among the worst in
the league. They allowed twenty three points a game, worst
among playoff teams, and they're going up against the top
seed on the road. They need magic from the rookie quarterback.
Let's take a break. We're back with more NFL talk
and NBA updates in a moment.

Speaker 2 (34:18):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven
pm Pacific.

Speaker 1 (34:28):
Fox Sports Radio. Welcome inside. Hey this sounds better, Hi, buddy,
The Jason Smith show if my best friend Mike Harmon,
good to see you, Steve de Sager, justin Frostburg giving
you forty five minutes of the Charger postgame show. Oh,
we had technical difficulties here. Just explain what was going
on so tonight because of the high wins in the
area with the LA wildfire schedule, this is the worst time, right.

(34:50):
We talked about it a night ago that we got
to get to six pm Wednesday. That was the moment
that everybody is pointing to the fire department singles get
to that, but with a wind so high. You and
I were doing the show from home tonight, and then
right before the show, Frostburg calls us both and said, hey,
we got technical problems. Get in, get in, get in,
get in. So Harmon and I getting our cars and

(35:11):
break speed records to get here. Two big accidents on
the four h five on the way, including one guy
who's I don't know what happened, but his car is
stalled and and he was in the middle lane, and
he was in his car and he was holding his
phone out of the window like like with the flashlight on,
and I'm like, you have big headlights on. You we
can see your car is there. But if I hold

(35:32):
my phone out and wave it like a concert, yeah exactly.

Speaker 3 (35:36):
So as soon as you said there's a car stalled
and the guy is still in his seat, I first
thought it's Jordan Addison, isn't it? And then he wasn't asleep,
so apparently everything was It was somebody else.

Speaker 1 (35:47):
I don't know why. I know why he thought, but
if I hold my phone out the window, people will
know to go around me. Now, people we've seen accidents before,
you know, go to around him. So the last forty
five minutes, it's been harm I know if you've listened,
but it's been me on the phone and Steve and Justin,
and it was the Chargers postgame show. We got into
the Chargers of the eighties. Then we broke down the
Super Bowl year in nineteen ninety four, we talked, We

(36:09):
had an interview with al Papunu really caught that big
pass in the AFC Title game in ninety four on
Rod Woodson still remembers the last time the Jets were good. No, no,
We went to back to back AFC title games in
twenty ten and.

Speaker 8 (36:21):
Twenty Sanchez banking on job again because of Oh good time.

Speaker 1 (36:26):
Showing you videos.

Speaker 3 (36:28):
Actually, Mark Sanchez got brought up this weekend because with
Jade and Daniels, a rookie quarterback winning a road playoff game,
they're saying, Hey, since Sanchez Placo people like that as rookies,
this hadn't happen.

Speaker 1 (36:40):
I got news for you. Take a look at the
list of quarterbacks with more road wins than Mark Sanchez
in the playoffs.

Speaker 8 (36:48):
It radiate that win after him talking about eating a
hot dog on the sideline too.

Speaker 1 (36:53):
Yes, that was this weekend. It was a little Sanchez
you think, good going on?

Speaker 5 (36:57):
Do you think Mark Sanchez bought Nate cating a house?

Speaker 1 (37:01):
I remember that miss field goal? I was there, Thank
you that misfit. That was all then that game that
was Marty Schottenheimer. Oh yeah, yeah, in all his glory
of why he doesn't win playoff games. Hey, we're on
the edge of field goal range.

Speaker 3 (37:15):
Let's just run three running plays straight into the center
of the line and kick it.

Speaker 1 (37:19):
Get out of here.

Speaker 3 (37:20):
Wait a minute, it's a rookie kicker on wet grass.
Is he gonna who cares three running plays straight into
the center of the line.

Speaker 1 (37:26):
This is this is what the show was.

Speaker 6 (37:28):
We we had Iowa, he should be able to do it.

Speaker 1 (37:30):
We had gotten up to twenty fifteen, twenty sixteen chargers, when.

Speaker 6 (37:35):
Of anger that's been bottled up just to the surface
today we.

Speaker 3 (37:39):
Can One update is there is an NBA blowout tonight
with Denver leading at Dallas seventy seventy one forty five,
Denver at the half. Jamal Murray in nineteen minutes has
thirty two points in the first half.

Speaker 1 (37:53):
Hey, you got more on Portland and Brooklyn. No, that's
that's a huge game tonight. Absolutely.

Speaker 5 (37:58):
No.

Speaker 1 (37:59):
Like during your update when you said it again that
you know only a dozen or so people want Portland
and Brooklyn, I'm like, yeah, but I got up there.

Speaker 3 (38:05):
Portland on the previous show tonight, I had predicted that
nobody could actually name anybody on the Brooklyn nets. And
then somebody said, wait a minute, they kid they did
make a trade. So D'Angelo Russell is playing, even if he's.

Speaker 6 (38:18):
Not, Sarry Martin, Edgar Jones.

Speaker 1 (38:20):
I still go back to Keith Van Horn, Keith van
and Todd McCulloch. You know, every every few years, Keith
van Horn's contract gets brought up, like, hey, we could
trade Keith van Horns contract hasn't played in the NBA's
in two thousand and three, and his name comes up
because there's something weird with his contract where you could
trade his contract as part of a salary duck twenty

(38:40):
years after he actually was on the court. And I
don't know how, but I guarantee you if you interviewed him,
he would still have socks up to his niece. Can
we still do that? With the John Contact contract that
was only five years and twelve million? Think about that
was five years and twelve millions.

Speaker 3 (38:54):
Like when people thought the big Reggie Jackson contract, Oh
my goodness, they're paying five million dollars for no Wait
a minute, wasn't it five years and three million dollars total?

Speaker 1 (39:03):
Or Ken still on the dole? Ludicrous?

Speaker 8 (39:06):
Yeah, he's He hasn't played in no no since he
was a White Sox Hall of Fame.

Speaker 1 (39:12):
And if I want to get it right, I want
to say Ricky Henderson was the first player three million
a year. I think he was the first.

Speaker 4 (39:18):
I remember me.

Speaker 1 (39:18):
Puckett was around there, yeah, but I remember for the
longest time it was all the big players were getting
their extensions. It was two point eight one million a year.
Now this guy got two point eight four million two
years ago. Yeah, once they broke three million, like that
was it. It went to eight every it was three
to eight to ten, but so many bad Hey, highest
paid player two point nine to one. I'm getting two
point nine one five, two point nine two, two point

(39:39):
nine two two.

Speaker 3 (39:40):
Well, that's what's going to come up here in the
next few weeks in baseball because they're gonna have arbitration
hearings and so like Alex BESSI is coming off a
great bullpen year and the bullpen saved them more than once,
needless to say, for the Dodgers, and I think it's
literally like, we want to pay you two million, I'm
asking two point two oh for crying out loud.

Speaker 1 (39:57):
Are we gonna have a hearing over this? How much?
How much deferred money do you have? Franchise.

Speaker 3 (40:02):
Let's just there should not be an arbitration hearing on Itazaki.

Speaker 1 (40:07):
They have to add in there, and I want you
to stock my soda machine for the next three years.
That's right, paying for soda to you guys that you are.

Speaker 3 (40:16):
By the way, if people are expecting Sasaki, the young
fisher from Japan, to sign as soon as like the
day breaks on business tomorrow. It's just the start of
the window. It could be a full seven or eight
days before he actually goes. It's already done with anybody
Padres included. The Padres are a finalist who told you
was already done for The Padres aren't really finalists.

Speaker 1 (40:37):
They just have to say that to make things look
like two people are in the rest.

Speaker 6 (40:41):
And then you give them a swinging neck.

Speaker 3 (40:44):
The Dodgers, this would be, This would be the exact signing.
The Padres neat because they've done nothing else this offseason
and they've painted themselves into the corner with all these contracts,
so many long term contracts, they can't do much. And
yet this wouldn't cost much to get a starting pitcher.

Speaker 1 (41:02):
So we'll be on Sasaki watch the next few hours.
But straight ahead, let's go. Yeah, we're back, We're in.

Speaker 2 (41:08):
We're all good.

Speaker 1 (41:09):
Mike Tomlin, we have to get into this. That's next, Jason, Mike, Steve, Justin,
Mary fox Or an unmatched selection, fast free shipping, free
road hazard protection, and over ten thousand recommended installers. Tireck
dot com is the way tire buying should be. Well,
we got big drama in the NBA. Steph Curry says, no,
I will sacrifice myself. Do not make trades just to

(41:32):
make us good if it's gonna cost the future of
the team. Rick Buker stops buying about twenty minutes with
more on that, But it's the future. Could Zion actually
get traded? Will he get traded before? After? Jimmy Butler,
all of this and more right up the wheelhouse of
Rick Buker. But as we get said for other week
in the NFL, still, you know, because it's Tuesday right

(41:55):
till still Tuesday, Tuesday, Tuesday till Tuesday Tuesday. The the
these stories of the teams that have left us in
the playoffs are still going strong. When we last left you,
and the Steelers and Mike Tomlin had their end of
season press conference today and you know, obviously there's a
lot of attention about you know, is Mike Tomlin going

(42:17):
to stay?

Speaker 4 (42:17):
Is he not?

Speaker 1 (42:17):
We told you, Look, he's coaching for his job. Last
weekend a really bad outing and especially going all out
for Russell Wilson at Pittsburgh. You're going to need a change,
just for a different voice, for a different path, because
you're seeing the same thing out of the Steelers for
the past six or seven years, which is, hey, we're
good enough to get in the playoffs, We'll lose the
first game and that's it. So he was coaching for

(42:41):
his job. What decision's going to be made right now,
it's still up in the air. But one thing Mike
Tomlin wanted people to know today is that, oh, if
you're calling Pittsburgh to trade for me, well, he had
this very short bit of advice, save your time. That's it.
Save your time, don't call.

Speaker 6 (42:58):
I don't think he gets to make that all in
his contrent.

Speaker 1 (43:01):
No, he does, believe it or not. And this is
why Caimbley he does actually have a no trade clause
in his country. That's a great agent. Hey, if they
want a trade, yeah, put in no trade clause. That's fine.

Speaker 8 (43:12):
Nice move, save your time. It just comes down and
this has been such a divisive issue. There's Mike Tomlin thing.
People get really mad about it, like, if you're just
doing enough? Is that is that okay for longevity for history?

Speaker 1 (43:29):
And in some places it is right. Hey, And I
would love to have I would love to have a
Steelers type existence for any of my teams.

Speaker 4 (43:37):
Every year.

Speaker 1 (43:38):
We're good enough, we get through the regular season, there's
a lot of ups and downs. We have talent, we
get to the playoffs and we lose. So you can
ask for more from a team than what the Steelers do.
But that's the thing, after seventeen eighteen years of that. Yeah,
it's when you get tired. Oh yeah, yeah, it's it's all.

Speaker 8 (43:55):
Yes, get settled in your ways, your schedule. Right now,
all of you think about your home lives, certainly aspects
of it, or maybe you just say it's just the
way it's always been. Are you happy about it?

Speaker 4 (44:06):
No?

Speaker 8 (44:07):
Would you change it if you could? What's what's the
opportunity cost? It gets very potasionally maybe you could be bad. Yeah,
you know, is as good?

Speaker 1 (44:16):
You know, I don't know.

Speaker 6 (44:18):
You can't Instead of whoever cooks the meal.

Speaker 1 (44:20):
I could get used to that. I could get used
to being. Hey, we're a ten win team. I can
wear my gear with pride because boy, I can't tell
you the last time worrying Jets gear. Uh, I could
wear my gear with the center. If you wear Jets,
I'm gonna have ups and downs. We're gonna have great wins.
We're gonna have games that we should probably win, but
not there's gonna be a little bit of controversy. We're
gonna get to the playoffs and we're gonna lose. Okay,

(44:43):
all right, I will take that.

Speaker 8 (44:44):
I will take that because you how many times my
team has been to the playoffs last twelve years?

Speaker 1 (44:47):
Close your eyes? What do you see? Nothing? But again,
you actually did close your eyes. I like that you did, Like,
could you.

Speaker 6 (44:52):
Put the little cat now?

Speaker 2 (44:53):
Did you really need to do that?

Speaker 6 (44:54):
I was gonna say five seconds right there, Jason, close
your eyes.

Speaker 8 (44:58):
Oh you know we're on videos, so I'm I don't
need to sit here and listen you talk about the Jets.

Speaker 6 (45:03):
Are I'm done with it?

Speaker 8 (45:05):
Yes, legitimately I would. Yet, when you wear Jet skiar,
you get a reaction. It's like me wearing the Cutler jersey.
You want to see what kind of response I'm gonna get?
Do people put cigarettes out on you when you wear the.

Speaker 1 (45:19):
You're smoking Jay Cutler? I think I can do this.
Ah a badge of honor, damn it. That would be
Mike Harmon's personal hell. Right, if Harmon didn't live a
great life and he went to which is like kind
of like the life of lives. If Harmon went to hell,
it would be him wearing a Cutler shirsey and and
he would he would be yelling, ay a shirt jersey.

Speaker 6 (45:39):
Oh yeah, a full on jersey, but it's it's just
a T shirt that looks.

Speaker 1 (45:43):
Like the jersey, right, you would and your hell would
be sitting in front of a TV, not a new TV,
one of those like TVs from the early two thousands
where there's and fifty pounds like that anchor from CNN's TV.

Speaker 6 (45:54):
Yes, exactly, yeah, full on, it's so excited.

Speaker 1 (45:57):
Yeah, and it would be where you'd see the trail
of the play like Blitzer almost yeah, almost like you're
watching a college football game on like uh, you know
a far out you know, uh sports station two thousands, right,
Oh look it's b Yu and Utah and you just
you'd be watching the Bears on that television and it
would be Jay Cutler forever getting you so close and

(46:19):
losing that game. And he would throw at least four
interceptions with every game, and for every interception, someone from
behind from your past that you really did wrong gets
to put out a cigarette on your back right there
because of Jay Coulor smoking. Jake Color, Hey, smoking my Carmen,
this is this is jumping knucklehead billy from second grade?
Remember when you picked your nose and you put it
on my desk, here's for that. And it would just

(46:41):
keep repeating.

Speaker 6 (46:42):
That past How long a line of kongo line would
this be?

Speaker 1 (46:48):
Yeah? I think I just have a couple of folks
that would be repeating, and they would all say, your
brothers are coming to right, Your brother's gonna be down here?

Speaker 6 (46:55):
Are they down here yet? Are they down here yet?
Where are they?

Speaker 1 (46:57):
They're the ones I really want. I'm taking my frustrations
out on you, but your brothers are the ones I
really want.

Speaker 6 (47:04):
We were good kids as far as you know, Oh
you were not. Come on, although they sore on.

Speaker 8 (47:09):
What is it?

Speaker 6 (47:10):
The all seeing guy kind of thing? What did you tell?

Speaker 1 (47:12):
What did you tell you?

Speaker 4 (47:13):
What?

Speaker 1 (47:13):
Your dad was a cop and he could keep the
piece everywhere and keep the law everywhere but your house?

Speaker 6 (47:18):
Well no, my mom would then take things into her
own hands. Oh yeah, and down Rambo, down in hell,
there would.

Speaker 8 (47:27):
Be all the switches, wooden spoons and everything that had
been broken across my head, neck and back all those years,
and maybe the liquorice whip that my brothers got me
with licorice grisi.

Speaker 6 (47:38):
Yeah, you know you'd get the super rope. Yeah, it
would like and then you tie them together.

Speaker 8 (47:43):
No, no, no, but like literally it was like three
foot and probably a good I don't know, half inch diameter.

Speaker 1 (47:50):
P would say, hey, do you want to play Raiders
of the Lost Dark. Yeah, let's play Raiders the Lost Ark.

Speaker 6 (47:54):
How is that with one of those ones? Boy, he
got his ass. He saw the open welts on my back.

Speaker 1 (48:03):
When you start hearing the theme to Indiana Jones run,
you have five fell asleep on his back. Well, he's
got memories. When they ran out of liquorice, would they
used like seaweed U? No, they come by. That was
two the too far inland. They just went. They just
went straight to uh two by fours and chasing around
like hacksaw Jim Duggan think about tough God.

Speaker 8 (48:26):
But look, but we can see a Rams defender using
Jimmy superfly stick a flying ahead.

Speaker 1 (48:30):
Butt at the end of can't you can't talk about
him too?

Speaker 8 (48:33):
I'm actually getting ready to watch the Dark Side of
the Ring on him. Oh the next one in the queue? Okay,
now available on one of the streaming services to not
be named because they don't pay me.

Speaker 1 (48:43):
So Tomlin says, save your time. Right, What are the
issues with Mike Tomlin that we we've talked about, and
it's something get in a big game?

Speaker 5 (48:49):
No?

Speaker 1 (48:49):
Well that well that's number one. Number one is he's
extremely stubborn and he can't pick quarterbacks and he doesn't
see that right, He keeps failing. He was handed Ben Roethlisberger.
It worked out. Were he and Roethlisberger the biggest fans
of each other? No, but they figured out a way
to make it work. They rode that into the ground.
I mean that was he was digging. I mean he
was digging to hell the final couple of years that

(49:11):
he was sure and and for looking for everybody's Oh
but he's the coach. No, no, you think Mike Tomlin
doesn't have an incredibly large voice into who the quarterback
is and who the personnel is. Of course he that
would be the greatest course here, it's legitimately.

Speaker 6 (49:24):
He did not. I just love to watch how that
office operated.

Speaker 8 (49:27):
Mike walking by lunch, pale in hand right past Omar
Khan passed all the other Ay sam Ai you George
just keeps talking.

Speaker 1 (49:36):
He's walking by going Russell Wilson, Russell Wilson, I mean
he's he's really stubborn, and he can't pick quarterbacks, right,
whether it's Trubisky, whether it's Kenny Pickett, whether it's Justin Fields,
whether it's Russell Wilson. Because he was bad.

Speaker 6 (49:49):
He was bad.

Speaker 1 (49:49):
I'm sorry he was bad.

Speaker 6 (49:50):
He was bad.

Speaker 1 (49:51):
They were all bad and and and he has a
big voice, right, So don't sit here and tell oh,
Mike Tomlin. These are the gro No, he shops for
the groceries with Omark con They all go to the
supermarket together. They all get here's your league. Why don't
you go pick out the produce? You go pick out
can food? You know you go here? Sure, Cardburg post
get a bunch of flowers. Listen, ed Bouschett was not.

(50:12):
He was dropping them off and picking them up, and
that when Roethlisberger was playing. But look, he's not good
at it, and he's very stubborn, and he is he
is one of the coaches. That is so the minute
he is questioned, he digs in further. The minute there
was questions about Russell Wilson, he dug in further on
Russell Wilson. And look what happened. Russell Wilson turned back
into the guy we thought he was.

Speaker 8 (50:34):
He took when when Wilson had a modicum of success. Right,
But but but what did Jay Lazer tell If that's
why you guys do what you do and I do
what I do? He was He's Look, he's very much.
He takes it personal, and he takes all of that personal.
He went to the wall for Russell Wilson, who is
just a guy, right, And he's just a guy and
and and you're looking at how the Steelers could have

(50:55):
gone further if they had a better planet quarterback, and
tell me how.

Speaker 1 (50:58):
That's a good plan. We're gonna get guy the Bears
don't want, a guy the Bears don't want. And then
we're gonna get a guy that the Bronco said, here,
you take him, and we're gonna eat eighty million dollars
in money this year. These are the two guys that
suddenly Pittsburgh is say, yeah, they're gonna be great. No,
this is part of his decision making. He's bad at
it because that's the thing. He is bad at the

(51:19):
offensive part of football because he wants to win a
certain way, and just ask Bill Belichick what it's like
when you want to win a certain way. No, No,
we lost Tom Bradies. Now we're gonna win the way
I want to with no stars because the system is
the star. I'm gonna draft guys you've never heard of.
I'm not gonna really sign star free agents. Belichick wanted
to win a certain way and what happened to got
him fired. Mike Tomlin's trying to win like it's nineteen

(51:40):
eighty five. He wants to win every game. Sixteen to thirteen.
Defense plays great quarterback, makes a player two two running
backs have big games like that's like his thing, Like
he loves that. He wants that more than anything, more
than winning games. He wants to win that way, which
is an antiquated way to try to win. Anybody who
tries to win that way in the NFL, you're only
going so far. You're only going maybe as far as

(52:02):
a playoffs, and you're losing because you need to be
dynamic and score points. In the NFL.

Speaker 6 (52:06):
You can't.

Speaker 1 (52:06):
I know Mike Tomlin has this whole belief, but this
is such an antiquated system, and those are the issues
with Mike tom That's why going forward If Tomlin stays,
I'm cool because I know the Steelers aren't going to
jump ahead of any of the teams that I you know,
and and the Jets or anybody else say oh We're
suddenly going to be a super Bowl favorite. Those are
the issues of Mike Tomlin, and they're not going away.

Speaker 8 (52:25):
Fan of Mike Tomlin long of this kind of way
and approach to doing business, but you recognize that the
game has changed, You recognize that the standards should change
along the way, and recognizing you know, it's the old
definition of insanity. You're doing the same damn thing year
after year, and even if you have a couple the

(52:46):
highs are a little higher during the year. You're ending
up at the same point each and every year.

Speaker 1 (52:51):
A very quick exit, exit out about a Fresca exit,
swollen down the Jason Smith Show with my best friend
Mike Carmen. The two issues, they're I'm not going anywhere,
So good luck, Pittsburgh if you keep Mike Tomlin, good luck.

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(54:59):
speaking of t Jimmy Butter would like to be transformed
to another team? Is Zion about to head out of town?
Joining us?

Speaker 5 (55:07):
Now?

Speaker 1 (55:07):
I'm the hotline nobody better to break down these and
all the other big NBA stories Fox Sports One NBA
Insider check out Beyond the Ball podcast as well. He
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Big Bodega for MVP. It is Rick Buker. What's happening, buddy?

Speaker 9 (55:28):
Oh? The NBA is killing me, guys, it's killing me.

Speaker 4 (55:32):
What happened?

Speaker 6 (55:33):
What's going on?

Speaker 8 (55:34):
Uh?

Speaker 4 (55:35):
This darn the news.

Speaker 9 (55:37):
Salary capitals like, you're gonna ask me about Zion, You're
gonna ask me about Jimmy Butler, and transactions are like,
it's one of the reasons you guys have me on right,
that's one of the who's going where?

Speaker 4 (55:51):
What are they gonna do?

Speaker 9 (55:52):
What's happening? And I keep looking at it and talking
to people in the league and they're like, we're not
spending that money.

Speaker 4 (56:03):
They should do it. They should do it.

Speaker 9 (56:05):
They should do updates on the NBA now on the
Food Network, because all we talk about are aprons, like
the first apron, the second aprons. Where's Jimmy Butler going,
Oh no, no, no, second apron, No.

Speaker 1 (56:19):
No, no, no, We're on third and fourth aprons now,
I mean, we can't do that, and it's not happening.

Speaker 9 (56:24):
So it's an interesting dynamic. But the fact of the
matter is that you look across the league. You know,
owners have finally come up with rules because the salary
cap is for those who may not know, the reason
that there's a salary cap is because the owners can't
help themselves. They are for whatever reason, they will spend,

(56:46):
and they will spend and they will spend. And even
you know, with the luxury tax and all that you
got billionaires, they're like, okay, I can throw a couple
extra million if it means that we can we can
get another another player. But now it's you literally can't trade.
Once you get far enough over the salary cap, it

(57:08):
then becomes we got to trade one for one, you
can't aggregate players, and there's all sorts of restrictions that
make it almost impossible to go get It's even if
you were like Phoenix Sons.

Speaker 4 (57:19):
I'm sure Phoenix.

Speaker 9 (57:20):
Suns would like to make a deal for Jimmy Butler,
but they literally it's it's it's nearly impossible because it
would mean getting convincing Bradley Beal to waive his trade,
his no trade, and then sending him to Charlotte or Detroit.
You know, some some team that's close to having cap

(57:42):
room or is willing to make a move like that,
and those teams are are That's not a place that
Bradley Beal is gonna wave his no trade for. So unfortunately,
you know that, I just don't expect that as much
as the New Orleans Pelicans have to move somebody, they
can't sign. We signed Brandon Ingram and keep Zion Williamson financially,

(58:08):
it just does not work for them. And I believe
the reason that you're hearing Zion's name is because actually
he might be easier to move because of the way
that his contract is written in the fact that Brandon
Ingram is a is offending free agent and can't be
guaranteed that you're going to be able to resign him
if you trade for him.

Speaker 5 (58:27):
So.

Speaker 9 (58:29):
That those are the complications there. And then with Jimmy Butler,
it's the same thing that you know. It's it's going
to sound weird, but the Miami Heat are probably better
served letting him walk in free agency then signing him

(58:49):
to the extension that he wants because they will lose
all of their cap flexibility. And now you're tied to
a nucleus of Tyler Herroll fan out of Bio and
a thirty six year old thirty seven year old, thirty
eight year old Jimmy Butler and unable basically unable to

(59:10):
make any other moves.

Speaker 4 (59:11):
So that's that was very long winded, but it's why.

Speaker 9 (59:18):
It's why I'm sad today, because the NBA has a
way to just choke the life out of the kind
of moves that we love to talk about and that
fans are are thrilled by the possibility of big names
going to new places.

Speaker 1 (59:32):
So what you're saying is, Okay, it's going to be
really really hard for Jimmy Butler to get dealt. It's
going to be really hard, but not quite as hard
for Zion Williamson. So maybe Steph Curry is ahead of
the curve when he said today, hey, don't make a move,
don't make a panic move, just to make this team
better in the short term, like he was telling the Warriors,
don't go out and make a trade.

Speaker 9 (59:52):
Yeah, And that was the message directly to Joe Lacum.
Joe lakem thinks that we're there are only one piece away,
like at one more piece and and let's let's let's
do something. And I think that you know, the way
Steph looks at it is like We're just not We're
not one piece away. So if we move with Jonathan
Comingia now or we you know, and Andrew Wiggins or

(01:00:16):
whatever it may be, that's not going to dramatically.

Speaker 4 (01:00:22):
Change who we are.

Speaker 9 (01:00:24):
And so why do that at this point where again,
if you do make a move like that, you know,
and again from on a on a on on paper,
I could say, hey, you know, Jimmy Butler would be
a nice addition, except it would cost you Andrew Wiggins
and Jonathan Cominga. Are you really better if if you
give up those pieces? And and you would have to

(01:00:46):
you'd have to either give up Draymond Green or or
Andrew Wiggins in the deal. And then the only reason
and that's not enough, they would have to be in
the deal to make it work. And then uh, you'd
have to add Donathan Kaminga and at least at least
one more piece to financially make it work.

Speaker 8 (01:01:07):
And so.

Speaker 9 (01:01:09):
I just I'm looking at the possibilities. They took their
swings last summer. They tried to get Lari markin in,
they tried to get Paul George, couldn't make it happen.
Sometimes you just have to recognize this is not the
time for us to do it, and that's more the
case now than ever before because of the new Sally
Cap rules.

Speaker 8 (01:01:29):
So Rick might as well instead of talking about the
difficulties of making moves a team that maybe doesn't have
to do anything because they're running and brilliantly bouncing back
from a loss. The Cleveland Cavaliers. Yeah, they win a
game with Donovan Mitchell the other day where he goes
three of sixteen, and then they roll up on Indiana

(01:01:49):
here again tonight in a nationally televised game, and it
seems like the bandwagon's starting to fill up.

Speaker 4 (01:01:55):
Yeah, you know, it's funny.

Speaker 9 (01:01:57):
I was just working on my All Star ballot and
I'm like, well, I got to have somebody from the
Cleveland Cavaliers, I mean, and probably Donovan Mitchell. But if
you if you look at how they've been successful, it's
like it's it's by strength and numbers. It's Evan Mobley,
it's Starrett Allen, it's Darius Garland and Donovan Mitchell finding.

Speaker 4 (01:02:20):
A way to play together.

Speaker 9 (01:02:21):
It's they've just gotten it from a multitude of places,
and it's what makes them what makes them so good
as the regular season team. And then so then we
start to turn toward, Okay, well what can they do
in the playoffs? And I do think that they are
more prepared. I think they're more legit for as a

(01:02:43):
playoff team than they ever have been. But it's still
going to come down to like we've seen Donovan Mitchell
time and time and time again in the playoffs, right
and you put a big athletic guy on him and
suddenly the game is not the same for him as
in the regular season. You gain plans for him.

Speaker 4 (01:03:05):
Now.

Speaker 9 (01:03:05):
The difference with Cleveland now is, you know, the way
Darius Garland is playing and Evan Mobley is giving you something,
So it's not just Jared Allen like they have multiple
guys you can contribute. I just at this point, I'm
already like I'm thinking, you know, second round for sure?
Can they get to the conference finals? You know, that's

(01:03:28):
that's where they are. And that's the question and what's
going to be the the answer is does Donovan Mitchell
is he a different guy this time around in the
postseason or if he's not, is Evan Mobley ready to
step up in a way that he's never before or
Darius Garland That's going to be the question before me.
But in terms of their depth and versatility, and if

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you look at all the teams like Oklahoma City in
the Western Conference, like all the teams that are that
are running away or at the top, are all teamss
where you know, in hindsight, if one of them ends
up winning a ring, we'll say, oh, this is their
big three.

Speaker 4 (01:04:05):
But the fact is they don't have big threes.

Speaker 9 (01:04:07):
They got like big or they got medium size, maybe
a big.

Speaker 8 (01:04:14):
One or bultmc donald's.

Speaker 1 (01:04:19):
Y'all have us a one super side, but a two
regular and.

Speaker 6 (01:04:22):
A three stepper.

Speaker 9 (01:04:23):
Yeah, exactly, exactly, which is a happy meal?

Speaker 1 (01:04:28):
Yah as was Rick Buker, our guest to Jason Smithson
with Mike Harmon live from the tirec dot Com studios.
All Right, I want to hit you with something we
said on the show a few nights ago. I don't
want you, I mean agree or disagree. Okay, by the
end of this season, by the end of the by
the end of the season, it will be widely accepted

(01:04:49):
that Wemby is the best player in the NBA.

Speaker 4 (01:04:54):
You picked the wrong guy.

Speaker 1 (01:05:00):
Wait, Ricky just dunked on the Lakers again. Hang on
a second, it's on Michael Cooper.

Speaker 6 (01:05:03):
Knight have another reaction shot of them playing no defense.

Speaker 1 (01:05:06):
In the fort Yeah.

Speaker 9 (01:05:08):
Yeah, Well, but here's the thing I like, I'm I'm
a big fan of what wemb and Yama is going
to be. But everybody has him already as the runaway
to win Defensive Player.

Speaker 4 (01:05:22):
Of the Year.

Speaker 9 (01:05:23):
It's been since I think the playoffs last year, Gobert,
it looks so good.

Speaker 4 (01:05:29):
Everyone's like, web me finished second?

Speaker 9 (01:05:31):
Why did he finished second?

Speaker 1 (01:05:33):
I didn't go bear say hey, I'm glad I got
this one before Wemby starts winning them all. Didn't he
say that when he won his award?

Speaker 9 (01:05:38):
Yeah, yeah, We're never like so ever since then, it
was like, well, Wemby's Wemby's going to get the next
one no matter what. And while certainly I you know,
he's a factor and very well should win, I don't
think he's a runaway.

Speaker 4 (01:05:55):
I mean, guy, he's he's he still needs.

Speaker 9 (01:05:59):
To get stronger because guys are willing are able to
not bump him off. Anthony Davis, for as bad as
the Lakers were, was completely comfortable against him when thirteen
for eighteen. Some of that was against Charles Vassie, obviously,
but he didn't have any problems stepping out and scoring
over over Wemby and offensively, Like I'm watching him and

(01:06:25):
maybe this is look, maybe this is my personal Tecadilla.
But I watch him on the break pull up twice
to shoot threes, missing both of them, and I'm like, Okay,
I gave you the first one, Like it's from thirty feet,
Like whatever, you made one earlier, Okay, you're gonna come
down and do it again, Like dude, you are seven

(01:06:46):
whatever and lethal, why are we pulling up and shooting
thirty footers? So I feel as if his game still
has to mature to put him in that category of
best player in the league, because I need to be
able to play through him if he's going to be

(01:07:07):
the best player.

Speaker 4 (01:07:07):
In the league.

Speaker 9 (01:07:08):
And I see all too often that it really is.
It's still Chris Paul organizing them, It's it's still Stefon
Castle making plays, It's it's uh, it's other guys contributing.
He's a he's a big part of it, and he'll
eventually get there. But in watching him this year, I

(01:07:28):
feel like maybe the absence of Greg Popovich has allowed
his game to be a remain a little more immature
and inefficient than it would if if popful with them.
And can I say one thing I want to? I
want to And I don't know if you guys have
talked about this, but on the Jimmy Butler case, right,

(01:07:50):
pat Riley has been getting and I don't know if
you guys have talked about it, but it's like, you know,
it's it's a damn shame that pat is handling Jimmy
this way and players are never going to come to
Miami again and look at all that Jimmy has done
for them. And I'm thinking, you know, however you feel
about this particular situation. Pat Riley has been in Miami

(01:08:13):
for thirty years. They have or dann near thirty years.
They have made the playoffs twenty four out of those
thirty years. Only once have they missed the playoffs in
two consecutive seasons.

Speaker 4 (01:08:30):
You can't say that.

Speaker 9 (01:08:31):
About the Celtics, the Spurs, any other franchise. They've never
been that consistent in terms of always being a postseason team,
being one of the better teams and sometimes best teams
in the league. And this idea that pat Riley doesn't
know what he's doing, or that Jimmy Butler of all people,

(01:08:55):
is going to change the template, and that he should
be caw towing him. He's rebuilt and redone this team
four or five times over and made it into a
viable team.

Speaker 4 (01:09:09):
With like one season off.

Speaker 9 (01:09:12):
So I just do not want to hear any sort
of critique of how pat Riley is handling this situation,
because he really is the og of all ogs, and
his track record speaks for itself.

Speaker 1 (01:09:28):
He defends and loves pat Riley. He defends and loves
Steph Curry. He hates Victor wembin Yama. He is Rick Buker,
the Nicks and the Knicks. Don't forget the Knicks. He's
on Twitter at Ricky Wemby. That's at Rick Buker. That
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(01:09:51):
on Wemby's defense The Ascension of Kate Cunningham. I was
just two years too early on the ascension of Kate
Cunningham again. It's right up there now. It went up again.
Check it out on Rick's page. At Rick Buker on Twitter,
You're gonna.

Speaker 9 (01:10:03):
Get me pushed into the riverwalk.

Speaker 1 (01:10:06):
Hey, look at TMZ. Wemby actually picks up Rick Buker
and throws him into the riverwalk like the milk. Well,
he's treating like Hulkin Loki from the Avengers.

Speaker 8 (01:10:14):
Well, I mean, we got a movie coming out in
a month, Rick. It would be good promotion if if
Wemby actually did that.

Speaker 9 (01:10:20):
Yeah, you know so much, guys, much appreciated.

Speaker 4 (01:10:23):
Rick.

Speaker 1 (01:10:23):
We'll talk to you next week and I'll I'll pencil
you in for Wemby's Hall of Fame induction ceremony.

Speaker 4 (01:10:28):
Thank you.

Speaker 9 (01:10:28):
I'm glad, glad to speak on his behalf.

Speaker 6 (01:10:36):
Longevity. Reckon, good buddy.

Speaker 1 (01:10:39):
There goes Rick Buker The Jason Spencer with Mike Harmon
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