Best of the Jason Smith Show with Mike Harmon

Jason Smith and Mike Harmon debate if Joel Embiid has ran his course in Philly. The Cowboys go from possibly getting Deion Sanders to interviewing Robert Saleh. Texas Longhorns QB Quinn Ewers is taking his talents to the NFL. And Jason Cole swings by for all the latest football headlines!

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:21):
This is the Best of The Jason Smith Show with
Mike Harmon on Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 1 (00:34):
Fox Sports Radio. Welcome inside The Jason Smith Show with
my best friend Mike Harmon. Video element on. That is
gonna be so oft sure. Oh yeah, we had a
five a five second air drum solo before we started. Yeah,
that's gonna I think I'm gonna do that a lot.
We never played the Crazy Train open. I think we're
gonna have that.

Speaker 3 (00:52):
I think we need to get you one of those
little electronic drum kits.

Speaker 1 (00:56):
We'll see if you can replicate it where I could
just play it on my I can just play at
play the drums, but only you hear it in your head,
so it's not for everybody else to listen to. That's good, okay,
nobody else needs it. I'll be like the little kid
from uh uh Love actually, when he just keeps playing
the drums and Liam Neeson keeps walking by with his
hands over his ears and he just keeps playing the

(01:16):
DRUMA that kid went on to become a big star.
He's married to somebody incredibly famous. I want to say,
Brody Brody Sanger. He was well, he was in the
May's Runner movies, yes, but he wound up marrying somebody
that you're like, WHOA really like the little kid, the
adorable kid from Love actually, the adorable kid He's married
to somebody that's like, You're like, whoa really?

Speaker 4 (01:38):
Like?

Speaker 1 (01:38):
Yeah, Like I want to say, it's somebody famous's ex wife, Like,
who is it? I'm working to find that as we
just do. Brody Sanger wife girlfriend. How I didn't know
his name? I just said I said his name. I
didn't believe you think that there's stuff about about pop
culture that I don't know. I know everything. You know nobody.

(02:00):
If you know nothing for the last eleven years, you
know that that stuff you know nothing? Who is it?
Do I get to find in the next ten seconds?
Because you are somehow epic failing here Brodyley Brody. I
don't know who that is saying spice girl friend. It
says to Lulu, to Lula Riley. Okay, she is who?

Speaker 3 (02:19):
She was an inception? Okay, uh, something called Saint Trinnian.
She was in Pride and Prejudice? How about that?

Speaker 1 (02:26):
Was she? Two thousand and five? She was married to
Elon Musk. That's right, she was married to Elon Musk.
That's who it was. Yes, there you go, that's who
it was. That's what she was. That's I knew there
was something. That's what I should know. She was married
to Elon Musk from twenty ten to twenty sixteen. Wow, wait,
she wasn't She wasn't. Uh he was married when when
when he named his kid like X seven four? No,

(02:47):
that was after star. Okay, see Mary knows Mary's Mary's
gen z. She's dialed right into this. Look she's a stalker.
Yeah no, no, no, I mean Harmon really, I mean
stock down on Mike Carmen, not mean I take me second.
If I was doing the pop culture first round draft
right now, you are slipping out of the first Okay,
I had to go love. Actually there, you didn't say
his name until I was already in the maze runner,

(03:08):
and then I saw Brody and then I just kind
of figured out that I gave you everything like you
are you are? You are slipping out of the first
round again.

Speaker 3 (03:14):
It was a show you and I were trying to do,
and she decided she needed to be missus Helper over
there trying to make me look bad four minutes in
the damn show.

Speaker 1 (03:24):
You're the schador, Sanders locked, You're the I'm sure were Sanders.
You should have said you're falling out of the pop
Culture first round draft. You are falling out there? Why
did everybody kiss his ass? Falling out of it? Also,
you couldn't get.

Speaker 3 (03:37):
To that story fast enough last night about him getting.

Speaker 1 (03:39):
His coat for his death the pop culture and Internet
search draft. You are falling out of the first round.
I got fat fingers mel Kuiper has Honestly, I really
didn't get bel Kuiper's got an arrow going down next
to your name. I'm sorry that woul Goes.

Speaker 3 (03:52):
That's the guy we're gonna use as my evaluator. It's like,
you know what it was the last time, mel Kuiper.

Speaker 1 (03:58):
All right, I meant I'll explain it to you and
are we going back to nineteen eighty seven? The Jets
have no idea what the draft is. I saw the
Dracula hair. I mean, what are we doing? In better
terms for you, it's like when you open up a
card catalog as you like to buy yourself card and
you see a card and there's a big arrow going
down next to it because the value has decay. Nobody

(04:18):
does that, and that would be it. They don't do
that anymore.

Speaker 3 (04:20):
There's it's instant marketplace. Okay, there's plenty of places you
can find the last fifty sales of a certain card,
or it's parallel in a matter of seconds, kind of
like me was. I was gonna take one more search
term to get to where I was. I was going
down the decision tree. Okay, all right again because I
didn't know the kid's name. I knew the kid from

(04:42):
love X.

Speaker 1 (04:42):
Arrow going to Row going down in the pop culture
and internet search TRAFP mapp you AM's gonna come and
have me killed. Arrow going down, He's gonna have me killed. Hey.
I want to say first things. First is that I
want to say thank you to the Philadelphia seventy six
ers for deciding they were unplaying basketball with a minute
to go in overtime. Okay, the Knicks win tonight and look,

(05:05):
obviously the big NBA news Karl Anthony Towns is out
bone chips in his thumb. He did not play tonight
because you know, the Knicks can't have nice things. He's
going to play through the injury. They looked at it.
Surgery is not need. He got hurt against the Pistons
when he bangs his hand against the backboard, wound up
playing the whole game. He says, look, it is what
it is. I'm gonna play. But the swelling was too
much for him for him to play tonight. So the

(05:26):
Knicks play the Sixers. There's no Karl Anthony to no
Big Bodega, there's no Embiid. And it goes to overtime
and the Knicks get up one twenty five, one fourteen
with about a minute plus left to go in ot
Paul George hits a three to make it an eight
point game with fifty seconds left to go. Okay, so
what do you think what's gonna happen here? Sixer are
gonna extend the game. They're gonna at least foul a

(05:47):
couple of times, make the Knicks make free throws. No, no, no,
the Knicks next possession, they get twenty seconds. They dribble
off the clock and Jalen Brunson loses it on a
turnover and Max he goes in for a layup. With
twenty seven seconds left, it's a six point game. So okay,
Todd Bowles take over. So all right, you know you
think you would put him on the free throw line,

(06:07):
but you got the steal. You made it a two
possession game with twenty seven seconds left to go. Now
you're gonna foul. No, no, no, Sixers. Let the Knicks
get the ball across half court, pass around. The Knicks
take twenty three seconds off the clock. They take the
actually they take the full twenty four seconds because they
take the shot clock violation. Like I don't know why
Josh Hart just didn't shoot the ball up at the end,
he throwing up the ball, like you take a couple

(06:29):
more seconds off the shot. But he holds onto the ball.
I mean he might have come. I mean tags he
holds onto the ball. The Sixers just let all the
time take away. Sixers get the ball back with two seconds,
three seconds left, down six the game is over. Like
the Sixers decided in overtime. We're done where we are
done playing. We fit, we're tired. I know we hit
a three to shut down early season. Like that's like

(06:53):
that's tanking. Like that's like, did you not even have
to way through the season. He just like tanked in
the last minute of the game. We're not even gonna
try to at least make the Knicks go to the
free throw line once. But like this is the say,
and this is why I say. Eventually, and it could
be there's not too much time left before the deadline.
Now we're getting in February six We're getting close. At
some point, Joel Embiid is gonna say I'm done here,

(07:16):
all right. For all the talk about Jimmy Butler or
Zion Williamson and trying to make money work, Joel Embiid
still is a huge prize for somebody across the NBA, because, hey, motivated,
When motivated, Joel Embiid is as dominant player there is
in the NBA. And you want to think that maybe
the next two postseasons. We talked about with Steph Curry
last night, the next two postseasons, Joel Embiid is gonna

(07:38):
be somebody that's gonna be really motivated. Okay, I got out.

Speaker 3 (07:41):
You're embarrassing yourself putting those two guys in their work
ethic and.

Speaker 1 (07:44):
Say what I'm saying is okay, Steph Curry, it's because
he's going to be forty. Joel Embiid, it's because he's lazy. Okay,
that's what it is. Okay, but making sure we put
our baseline like it just feels like Joel Embiid is
in Philadelphia, right He's he's not playing, He's in and
out of the lineup. He's done. He's absolutely done. But

(08:07):
as we've seen with NBA stars, whether it is Chris
Paul or Kevin Durant or James Harden or any of
these guys that you think, boy, they're just circling the drain.
Now they're absolutely done. Oh no, no, they've shut it
down until they get to a new destination. Right, I
got James Harden, he's done with the Clippers. Why do
you do it? And now, well, wait a minute, James
Harden is playing pretty well. But we've seen it with
these players where they get that new destination and suddenly, hey,

(08:29):
for the next couple of years, Hey, I'm happy yeah,
the new car gets somewhere, and I'm not saying you
can count for more than that, but the next two postseasons,
so this one and then you figure next year into
the postseason. Joel Embiid could be a guy that puts
you over the top. He is done in Philadelphia. They
should build around Tyres Maaxi. They have some nice pieces there.
He can be a one. Embiid is done. And if

(08:53):
I was not going to be surprised if you find
out sometime in the next week or two, hey, Joel
Embiid wants a trade. He wants a Sixers to get
them out and then some kind of trade can be
made somewhere else he wants to go. I would not
be surprised. And then suddenly he gets dealt and then
he's really healthy and he's playing every single game. He's
playing forty minutes, he's not pulling down on his shorts,
he's not tired shooting free throws now, and he'll be

(09:14):
back to being the Joel Embiid that Hey, when I
want to be the MVP of the league, on the
MVP of the league. But trust me, watching the Sixers
game tonight at the end, I wasn't complaining because it was,
you know, helping the Knicks. But I just feel like
they're done. They're just spinning their wheels until something happens.
And that's something that's got to happen. Is Joel Embiid's
going to demand a trade or they have to understand
we have to move Joel Embiid and maybe they have

(09:35):
the conversation and you go, yeah, sure, but it's got
to be a place I want to go. And superstars
have the power, so it's not like we're gonna be
able to trade you to New Orleans for Zion, but
they can be something that's worked out, something that can happen.
It's not the first time I've said this, but as
you get closer, you can see the Sixers look done.
They just look like they're waiting for the inevitable to happen.
So we've got less than a month left to go,

(09:56):
and I know you want to time it right. So
it's something that you can hit it with a bit
of sense of urgency where hey, we have three and
a half weeks till the trade deadline. We tried for
a couple of weeks, it didn't work out, or you
do it when it's a couple weeks away, So you
put the pressure on the boy. We got to get
it done now or we're risking keeping him. So you
want to time it right. If you're Embiid, you don't

(10:17):
want to say it too early because then the Sixers
might say no, you want to do it too late
at the cake and the deal done. But you want
to time it just so, Hey, we feel the sense
of urgency to get a deal done and Joel Embiid
can get someplace else. The Sixers need to move on, right.
They're not getting better. The Eastern Conference is getting better.
Other teams are loading up and they're not. You're rid
of his salary. You can start over next year. This
is already a bad year for you. What else are

(10:38):
you gonna do? I'm telling you, Oh, Joel Embiid on
a different team on February seventh is the right move.
I dig that because the only thing he did here
was cheerlead. He cheerleads pretty pretty well.

Speaker 3 (10:49):
He does for those who were unaware of the game
particulars he didn't play, so it hasn't since the fourth
So Paul George twenty six even he was talking about
being board and all sorts of stuff. So he's already
you know, put his flare up into the air for
us here, this is a tenuous situation at best. Another

(11:11):
great game from Max Ego's wasted thirty three points from him.
He did take thirty two shots thirteen of thirty two.
So you know, we're talking about volume, the old Saturday
Night Live skit about making change about that. But all
in they do shoot fifty percent from the field, lose
one here. The MBI argument for anything is always kind

(11:34):
of laughable, right, We get excited about him for about
three weeks and then he's heard again. And look, he's
a big guy. The fact that he's had the career
he's had after those early surgeries, injuries and everything else
is improbable and incredible because it's felled many a big man.
So I you know, whenever we get into the criticism

(11:54):
part of it, we take that and you know, you
give him his doffing of the cap and salute you
battled through and became the player you did.

Speaker 1 (12:04):
But you know, week to week, but am I giving
up what I need to?

Speaker 3 (12:08):
You know what I'm handing hanging out on the second
apron and all that stuff. Buker was trying to explain
the other day, how are we gonna make this trade work. Well,
we've got four whiteboards that were bringing in and you're
gonna have to follow it.

Speaker 1 (12:22):
It's like the Daniel day Lewis draw the way over here.

Speaker 3 (12:28):
That's how we drink the milkshake and get Joel em
beat into town.

Speaker 1 (12:32):
Yeah, what you got frost? But real question is do
they sell bone ships at the bodega?

Speaker 3 (12:36):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (12:37):
They sell special bone chips special. No, you know what
they do is so that's burnt down. Hang on, I'll
tell you what they do to make money is they
put that special new Karl Anthony Towns basketball card in
a set that comes with bone chips in the card
instead of a same that yet it comes with a
bone chip. Sure they do? Oh yeah, no, the bad.

Speaker 3 (12:59):
Daniel got all my baseball cards when I was a kid.

Speaker 1 (13:03):
Dude, I was a kid. You've got baseball cards about
Daga in every store that's one hundred five and dime. Baby,
That's where I grew up, and that's where I was
able to get baseball cards at the bodega. You never
grew up. Sure, I'm still that guy. I'm still sixteen
years old. Sometimes and I'm fifty four times I'm that way.
But yeah, no know, real bone chips in the card,
that's the next thing. Actual blood or things from people

(13:26):
is the next phase of.

Speaker 3 (13:27):
Oh we got some, I'll send you some really some
examples the bone spurs. But man, there have been hair
lockets of hair. I drank announces of hogs blood every day.
I'm never gonna die. By the way, does the uh
the love actually kid get a bunch of Elon's money in.

Speaker 1 (13:45):
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(14:29):
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(15:14):
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(15:34):
to be the Glee version. Fox Sports Radio The Jason
Smith Show with my best friend Mike harmon nerd out
live from the tire rag dot com studios. Do you
ever tell you my Rix Springfield story? You have a
Rick Springfield?

Speaker 3 (15:51):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (15:51):
Yeah, yeah, I have a Rick Springfield story ready for me.

Speaker 3 (15:53):
The only one I got is from my Instagram reo
where people are like, who the hell is this gather
falling around in Disneyland and it tricks free. Someone's like filmingame,
like who is this guy?

Speaker 1 (16:05):
I don't know who this guy is? Dude, everybody's got
a reality show? Was was it called? Was it called
Slick Ricks Tricks? Was it was? It? Was it? Hey?
Now spring time with Springfield? Was it was? I don't
know what it was?

Speaker 3 (16:17):
Spring No, it was literally he was there as one
of the you know folks, getting led around like he's
a hero, you know, with like this VIP treatment and.

Speaker 1 (16:25):
They're like, why is everybody kissing this guy's ass? Like
it's Rix Brigfield. I actually have two good Rick Springfield
stories real quick before you get into the Dallas Cowboys.
One is I vividly remember this nineteen was eighty four,
and I want to say it was the Jets Brown's
Playoff No. Eighty six, the Jets Brown's playoff game where
the worst loss in Jets history. That a ten point

(16:46):
lead before minutes left, and we blew a ten point
lead because Mark gatsono late had Bernie Kozar and we
lost in overtime. It was awful.

Speaker 3 (16:54):
But did anybody go up to him and say how
they eat? He screwed them and took stuff away from them.
An extra chance can say I want my sack and go.

Speaker 1 (17:02):
I want you to lay off of Bernie Coozar so
we could go to the bleeping super Bowl. But you
didn't do that, did you?

Speaker 3 (17:07):
Gas?

Speaker 1 (17:08):
So I want to say it was Don Krickey and
Bob Trumpy were doing the game right. Bengals. Legend got
explained to millennials who Don Cricky, Don Krikey comes out
and and like I listened to Don Crikey, Yeah he
was muddy oh man, his voice is so good. And

(17:29):
Bob Trump he just hated everybody. Uh so he played
for the Don Krikey is the announcer of the game
and it's a huge game. Playoff game, right, and they
announced the attendance, and the attendance was the most I
think it was the most ever in a Browns playoff game.
Obviously they keep adding people, keep right, And so he says,
I remember him saying, because you know, he had this
line ready to go and someone told him and he

(17:50):
screwed it up, because he says, and you know, they're
saying that they haven't had a crowd this big here
since the Big Springfield concert last summer. And then like
Bob Trump, he goes, you mean Springsteen and he goes Springsteen, Springsteen,
the Born in the USA Tour. Eh, doctor doctor Noan

(18:11):
Drake is here. Oh my goodness, Yeah Springsteen, Yeah, Springsteen, Yeah,
Springsteam Springs, Steve Springfield, the Big Springfield Guns.

Speaker 3 (18:18):
Are you gonna start singing the Jimmy Hart the Big
String off the wrestling album Meat Your Heart, Rick Springfield Love.

Speaker 1 (18:24):
I've been waiting till that story's been my head for
like almost forty years. I've been waiting to tell that's
a great line. Now. The other thing is Rick Springfield
is that this is about fifteen years ago, and it's
more than fifteen years ago. That's about twenty years ago
and I was when I was at ESPN and I
was doing all night and my boss said, hey, I

(18:45):
have a pass and a ticket for you to go
to the ABC Big Soap kickoff dinner. I said, what
are you talking? He goes, well, and she goes. She goes, well,
they're kicking off the new season of soaps, and so
it's a big dinner. It's all the stars are there
so you can network, and there there's a cup the
people are gonna come off the show. And I'm like,
oh my god, that's great, right, So she goes, So
she goes, you go, you have a seat. I said, okay, awesome.

(19:06):
Like I'm at the same table as Thorston K who
was a huge star he like called in the show.
He said, you have one of those ESPN phones. I go, yeah,
the phones. We couldn't sell it all because no one
bought them, right, So he came home a box that
it's worth money. Yeah. I want to say, that's how
we got Mario Lopez on the show. And like THEA
Andrews came on the show and Rick Springfield is there
and he's not at my table. But it's it's not

(19:27):
like it's a huge thing. It's like it's just a
restaurant that that's bought out. So he's like two tables
over from me. And my best friend's wife was a
huge Rick Springfield fan, right, So I'm like, oh my god,
what do I do? And then so the end of
the night, I'm like, do I get a picture? He
was like, you know, it's like kind of selfie. Do
I get an audit? I don't know what to do.
I'm here professionally. But they had everybody's name like emblazoned

(19:49):
on a on a little on a piece of paper,
so you know where you're sitting. I said, oh, I know,
he's gonna leave his name tag there. I'm gonna get it.
I'm gonna mail it to her and she's gonna love it.
So I wait till he lead. I'm like waiting out
Rick Springfield like, come on, man, you gotta leave, you
gotta leave, you gotta leave. And so Rick Springfield leaves
and so I go over and I and I pick
up the name tag, and this dude who was working,
who was cleaning the tables, goes, you're taking that, and

(20:12):
I look, and I go it's a guy in a
white jacket, white coat and go, yeah, it's just a
name tag. Is okay? I go, aren't you just gonna
throw this away?

Speaker 5 (20:20):
Right?

Speaker 1 (20:20):
He goes, that's it's it's it's a it's a it's
a it's a name thing. I go, it's paper, it's
I just said, you know, and I just walked away.
I'm like, okay, I don't want this guy to know
who I am. I don't anything else about that. But
here's a guy clearing up the tables. It's mad at
me because I took the placehold, the little paper placehold.
Nothing was of value on it. It just had his
name on a piece of paper.

Speaker 3 (20:38):
No, in fairness, given the uh breath and history of
the show for those n't aware, I mean, that is
a downgrade from some of the other crimes of the FAI.

Speaker 1 (20:49):
Yeah, that was kind of a that's kind of a
victimless crime, right, I'm learning out. I learned about that
in criminal law injustice in high school. And there's such
a thing as victimless crimes. Yes, that's me. Victim's crimes.
What is it? Like the fIF stolen named plate, Like
like the three tenths of Ascent that they tried to
steal an office space and all of a sudden, Hey bill,
a lot of money missing at tons of cash? Uh

(21:11):
that so there's a surrounding area. Yeah, So which story
did you like better? That one or the Springfield Springsteen Neither?
Oh I heard?

Speaker 3 (21:19):
I mean, if I was able to hear it in
the voice, have done gritty Springfield got? Perhaps that would
be something Stein Springsteen concert. Yes, Oh, I blew that line.
I blew it because the entire time he comes back
to crusty Ah.

Speaker 1 (21:33):
How did I blow it? I knew it was, but hey,
where's that Pa? That told me it was Springfield? Where's that? Pa? Said? Springsteen?

Speaker 2 (21:41):
That?

Speaker 3 (21:41):
And he might have shown his hand as to what
he was watching on daytime television.

Speaker 1 (21:47):
Enamored with Doctor Noah Drake And here's sixty thousand people
here to see Rick Springfield sing Jesse's Girl and one
other song before he's done, let's go. I had to
have an other hit, you know, we had Don't Talk
to Strangers? Did? Yeah? And then he had another one.
I think he had three hits.

Speaker 3 (22:06):
He had State of the Heart, Affair of the Heart,
a lot of a lot of the heart, human touch, yes,
human tegagoon.

Speaker 1 (22:12):
There you go. There's the three hits, the three hits
for rich and now he's a d He's a working
class DJ. Is it on yeah on serious xem Day?
Yeah yeah, he plays a lot of sun the working
class DJ Rix Sprowlen, We go working class? How much
feel like we need to reach out and have a
conversation with here? Net Worth is in the tens of millions,
but I'm working class DJ.

Speaker 3 (22:28):
Hey, he identifies with the working man, just like Springsteen.

Speaker 1 (22:31):
Spring or Springfield Springfield Springsteen, they're in the interchanging. I mean,
Springfield is a town, USA. You never know where you are.
You're born in general hospital, that's what you are. Uh.
It was just two days ago that it was Hey, man,
the Cowboys are talking to Dion Sanders. This is odds
on favorite, I know. And now here's two days later, Friday,

(22:55):
the Cowboys are gonna talk to Robert sawah Well about
their vacant head coaching positioning no stone unturned. You've gone
from this is eminem you're living up here and now
you're living down here like you go from coach Prime
and the the attention that he's gonna bring to the team,
and and and all the auction he's gonna suck out

(23:16):
of the room. For all the other stories across the
NFL where he's gonna turn the value of the Dallas
Cowboys up even more, it would be unbelievable. And now
two days later it's yeah, I'm gonna talk to a
guy whose career record as a head coach is twenty
and thirty two and got fired in the beginning part
of this season like this is this is where the
Cowboys have gone from Oh my goodness, look at this

(23:37):
to what the hell are you doing? What the Robert
Salad didn't just become good because the Jets lost more
after they fired him. It's not like Sala the couple
of years coming here, boy twelve wins. You did you
really fire Mike McCarthy for Robert Sala? I mean, come on,
nothing else.

Speaker 3 (23:55):
You also need a defensive Corda Hey, I mean he's
engaged now if it's the bait and switch that it's, hey,
we're bringing you in for the head coaching position, but
we're gonna offer you the DC spot that I get
because look, Sala is a great chicagot so was gonna
talk to Cincinnati after they got rid of Luna and Ruma.

Speaker 1 (24:15):
But he's but he's in to be. I mean, you
fired Mike McCarthy for a guy who really showed you
that a head coaching job was too much for him.
That's what you did. That's what you did. Well, they're trying. Look,
it's an arms race between these teams.

Speaker 3 (24:30):
They I think they get a special prize like an
extra juice box or something if they get to twenty
interviews for a head coach.

Speaker 1 (24:38):
Jerry Jones, Like, does Jerry Jones have a bicycle? Bears
in the jets? Come on, if you tell Jerry Jones,
okay you want to win, here's a bicycle and you
get on it, and you're going to start here, and
then you see fifty yards away straight ahead, Yeah, that's
the finish line. Just bicycle across the finish line and
you can win. And he would say, no, I got
everything I need and got my helmet, I got, I got,

(24:58):
I got my got my right shoe was on, and
I could stay in here and stay on the say
on the bike again, I got water justin kase. Yeah,
well Steven's gonna push the pedals for me. Uh okay,
just go straight aheat. Okay, great, And immediately Jerry Jones
would start and would just start doing circles and just
start doing just go straight, just go straight. No, no, no,
I'm gonna do circle. He'd Stephen Jones's shoulders like a

(25:21):
spider monkey. That is just the Cowboys, no matter what
they do, even when it looks like they're gonna do
something big, because Deon Sanders would be big. He would
be a guy you fire Mike McCarthy for. But you
fire a guy who What did I tell you about
Robert Sala? The head coaching job is too much for him.
He built a really good defense with the Jets that

(25:41):
fell apart. And I'm sorry, but you can't say, oh,
maybe he was a better head coach just because the
Jets lost more after he was fired. No, he didn't say. Again,
his record is a head coach is twenty and thirty two,
and last time I checked team records. Is a head
coaching stat. That is a head coaching stat. It's not
you can say quarterback stat. You could say wins aren't

(26:02):
a quarterback stat. I disagree with you, but but you
could say that, and I think you have an argument.
But wins and laws record really a head coaching stat.
So he never showed he was good everything else bad,
I mean if I mean yeah, if you if you're
Dak Preskar, Like, what the hell are we doing? Right? Yeah? Yeah,
because I the only thing I can think of is
that you say, well, he'll come in and build a
pretty good uh defense, But it doesn't matter. You're not

(26:26):
gonna win. He's shown you he has no idea how
to run the offensive side of the football.

Speaker 3 (26:30):
But it's just show me the way we watched this
breakdown and we talked about McCarthy, you know, a week
ago of is he gonna run out the.

Speaker 1 (26:37):
Clock on Jerry Jones?

Speaker 3 (26:39):
And now we have you know, different reports of contract
length and guarantees versus. They never even got to that part.
So it's trying to parse out what's real, what's imagined,
and who's trying to tell the tale, you know, who lives,
who dies? Who tells your story? Kind of thing Hamilton
uh related. And so we we get to this next

(27:00):
piece is you don't have a plan because you denied
the Bears an opportunity to talk to McCarthy. You lost
the window to talk to all of these assistants right
where there's an open season. Hey, everybody's schedule, whatever the
hell you want and then it closes, and then you
can't get him back to the bargaining table to decide

(27:23):
once and for all, and it drags out towards the deadline,
and now you're just bringing pretty much every warm body
that has ever coached a football game.

Speaker 1 (27:34):
What about that guy? Is he ready? I mean, I
don't know where this suddenly became a thing of Hey,
interview as many candidates as you can. What what the
hell is I've seen that. I've seen folks trying to
defend that. I'm like, no, that's telling me.

Speaker 3 (27:47):
I really just I'm standing.

Speaker 1 (27:50):
What is it?

Speaker 3 (27:51):
Thirty one flavors plus? You don't know what you want?
And you're I don't know.

Speaker 1 (27:54):
Let me just get a bunch of samples. Which one
do you want? I had fifteen samples? Good, I'm going
I don't know what I want. What would you have? Well,
I'll have the butter pecan. Oh, I'll have that. You know.
You know I don't like butter pecan. I don't know
why I got it, but the guy said it was good.
Like you you have no idea what you want or
what you're looking for. It's dazzle me. It's like I
feel like all these teams just sit back and the

(28:15):
Cowboys are doing it now, the Jets, the Bears, they
just sit back in a room and go uh with
one of those big change my minds on it. Hey,
I might not hire you, change my mind like this.

Speaker 3 (28:24):
Is what the eight foot folding table out on the
quad even change my mind. I mean, everybody I think
is trying to capture as much as we're talking about
what's going on in the Pittsburgh world with Mike Tomlin
right now, right, the legend is that's exactly what he did. Well,
he got the cursory interview because they had to interview,
and I'm Rooney Rule all these other things, and then

(28:45):
he just blew them away.

Speaker 1 (28:47):
So every one of these owners.

Speaker 3 (28:49):
The Hallis McCaskey group, the Jerry Jones of the world,
suddenly they're gonna get enambered and blown away nothing they've seen.

Speaker 1 (28:59):
They've been in this game him for four decades plus.

Speaker 3 (29:02):
Suddenly some revolutionary new idea he could come in, like
lyle Anley cowboy cowboys for cowboys, gonna cowboy man. I mean,
they just even when they look like they're gonna do something, no, no, no,
We'll show you a couple of days later.

Speaker 1 (29:16):
Now we're still gonna screw that up. A big move. Really,
we're like a big move where this guy comes in
and does his song and day. This is how bad
the candidates are. We're already down to Hey, Robert Solo
might be better than you thought he was. Oh, okay, okay,
Cowboy Jets. He's probably a really good head coach. I
think Robert Sala's twenty wins puts him third all time
for wins by a Jet. Washing's coach of.

Speaker 3 (29:36):
The year next year, is he the guy that runs
the stairs a lot of stairs at our stadium, Stephen,
I don't think he'll be ready for game time.

Speaker 1 (29:44):
Cowboy's gonna cowboy man. I love it. I absolutely love Dion.
Robert Sola. Uh hey, we got you that code, Dion.
Damn it. Get to the negotiation table. We got more
coming up in ninety seconds. But first, let's talk to
someone who's going to interview for the Cowboys head coaching job.
After Robert saw it's Lanci Belongos. I'm available. Just I

(30:06):
gotta tell you guys.

Speaker 4 (30:06):
You guys were talking about I literally, in my head
envisioned Jerry Jones just riding the bike in a circle.

Speaker 1 (30:11):
Yeah, I stop, see it? How do I stop?

Speaker 5 (30:14):
What do you?

Speaker 1 (30:14):
What do you mean? The brakes are on the on
the handlebars, don't I gotta go back with the handlebar breaks?

Speaker 5 (30:19):
What?

Speaker 1 (30:19):
What do I do? What do I do? I'm just
gonna keep going in a circle.

Speaker 4 (30:22):
I also side in a tricycle, you know, like in
saw the Jigsaw in the little Tricycle.

Speaker 3 (30:29):
That there's a couple of customed toy designers that I
that I follow in a quid.

Speaker 1 (30:34):
Now see if they can make me a Jerry Jones
on a bike. See now I'm envisioning this is how
the cowboys are gonna pick their head coach like Jerry
Jones's Jigsaw. Like it? Okay, Salah, you and Dion one.
He has to cut the other person's fa foot off.
And if you do that, whoever gets out of there,
I'm gonna hire. I bess you did. Sorry something that
they should have been on A voice distorted, But it's

(30:54):
not because you knew it was me. Anyways, got a
head with Dart guys, isn't he already missing toasty? Yes?
Come on said it? I thought it, but I wasn't
gonna say it.

Speaker 4 (31:04):
So Glad Roser wins again, Sala wins again.

Speaker 1 (31:09):
Got a fight for the saw and then doing, then seeing,
and you could be the head coach of the Cowboys.
This outworks well.

Speaker 4 (31:14):
Former Cowboys head coach Mike McCarthy had an in person
interview today with the Bears and Jordan Schultze. Fox Sports
reports that Vikings offensive coordinator Brian Flores is going to
interview with the Jets and the Jaguars on Friday, almost
on Saturday.

Speaker 1 (31:28):
They're all one more they can get, they can get
a stamp and get a free a free foot long
sub at subway candidates.

Speaker 3 (31:34):
Hey, Karthy got blown in first class. Bears have never
done that. That's newsworking anymore.

Speaker 4 (31:40):
In the NBA, Fellas, the Raptors handed the Celtics a loss.
All healthy, there was nobody missing for the Celtics. Raptors
win at one, ten to ninety seven.

Speaker 5 (31:49):
RJ.

Speaker 4 (31:49):
Barrett twenty two points, eleven rebounds and eight assists. Then
Nicks meet the seventy six ers one twenty five to
one nineteen in ot Did you see that Carl Anthony
Towns was wearing an eagle sweatshirt?

Speaker 1 (32:00):
Yeah, they made him take it off. They made him
take it off. Sudden the second Halvey was waiting next
Gears tight. Hey hey, big Bodega. Yeah I know, but hey, well,
we already have a story of an.

Speaker 3 (32:09):
Eagles fan and the Packers fan thing going on.

Speaker 1 (32:12):
We don't need to repeat.

Speaker 4 (32:14):
The Grizzlies outscored the Spurs one twenty nine to one fifteen,
and Jamra had twenty one points twelve. Assissters also a
video on social media. You can find a Moran dunking
on Victor Ween Banyama put him on a poster, but
it didn't count.

Speaker 1 (32:27):
The whistle had already blown, but it happened.

Speaker 4 (32:29):
The Rockets are beating the Nuggets right now, ninety to
sixty seven, four minutes to go in the game, four
minutes to go in the third quarter, with the Jazz
on top of the Hornets eighty to seventy three. At halftime.
The Warriors are beating the Timberwolves fifty five to forty two,
and early in the second quarter the Heater on top
of the Lakers forty to thirty nine. On the ice,
it's a tie game between the Oilers and the wild
that they are tied at three apiece after two periods.

(32:52):
And we got some college hoops going on as well, Perdue.
Number seventeen Perdue losing to Washington at halftime thirty to
twenty two. Number two Iowa State defeated Number nine Kansas,
seventy four to fifty seven.

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(33:26):
want a quarterback in this draft? We'll tell you that's next.
Jason to Mike.

Speaker 2 (33:30):
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Mike Harmon wherever you get your podcast from, you'll find
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Springsteen line will be there as well. Oh it's brilliant,
no question about it. So big college football news today,
which turns into big NFL news to no one's surprise,
knowing that he's probably not gonna be able to come

(34:24):
back and win the job again, which you know Jaln
Milroe a couple others, Quinn Ewers is headed to the
National Football League as shooting his final year. I think
he has maybe four more years to go to Texas
if he wanted to stay, clearing the way for Arch
Manning to take over next year as the Longhorns quarterback.
And quite obviously, yes, youwers could have gone someplace else.

(34:47):
We wanted to go someplace and get six million dollars
four to six million dollars nil money. But he wants
to go to the NFL. Was it going to come
back to Texas because there'd be more of a cry
for Arch Manning to play instead of him, So I
got it, kind of get going before I lose the gig. Now,
with yours going to the NFL, this almost completes the

(35:08):
graduating to the NFL class of quarterbacks headed to the draft.
And I'll tell you this, of now, looking at this class,
we've talked about how underwhelming it is, about how even
the guys that are gonna wind up going at the
very top of the draft, Shador Sanders and cam Ward
in some kind of order, really aren't great players. I

(35:29):
don't know how many of them even have high first
round grades on them. But because quarterback is such a
position of need and life is miserable without them, they'll
go as two of the top three picks. They'll probably
in the end they'll probably still go one two because
both teams need quarterbacks and what are you gonna do?
So with those two guys going, but still cam Ward
right now getting a little bit better grade. Maybe the

(35:51):
shine is off of Shador Sanders a little bit, or
waiting to see where Dion winds up coaching next year.
But I'll tell you this, right, of all the guys
headed to the NFL, this is the year, and this
is not about the top two teams, the Titans and
the Browns. If you need a quarterback, and that's a
lot of teams in the NFL, this is where you
go second round, third round and get your Russell Wilson.

(36:14):
This is the year for that. Because it doesn't mean
there's not gonna be good quarterbacks coming out of the draft.
It's just, oh, I don't know, but all of the
quarterbacks coming in have warts of some kind. Right. We
talked about the two guys going at the top of
their first round grades. Quinn Ewers maybe a third round
guy when coming into the year, potentially he was an

(36:34):
early first round pick. He has lost it. Jalen Milroe
the same thing. Boy. Millero's gonna convince me the next
Lamar Jackson. Boy, the way the season went him heading
to the NFL, maybe he would have lost his job
coming back. Maybe he's the second third round guy. So
all these people that are headed to you, and Drew
Aller decides I'm coming back to school rather than head
to the NFL. The two guys, I wont do you

(36:57):
have any risk of losing his job? That's my curiosity there.
James Frank, Now that you make it to the you
make it to the semifinals of the Uh Okay, I'll
just say, right, White comes at you fast. It does,
it does.

Speaker 3 (37:07):
But I certainly that interception was a hey, you're going
down an extra round or two to get your money.

Speaker 1 (37:13):
Tony Sack is not walking through that. Chuck Fusina is
not walking through that. Dame here Johnson john If Johnson,
you're not going to see him come through?

Speaker 3 (37:24):
No?

Speaker 1 (37:24):
Just did I missed him? Where was he?

Speaker 3 (37:28):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (37:29):
The two guys I want because I watched them have
incredible seasons. Not only did they have incredible seasons, they
finished stronger than any other quarterback in the game. Where
they had end of the year was terrific. Their bowl
games were great, and you look at what they've been
able to do. The two guys I want not just
one guy, guys where you're going. Two guys I want

(37:52):
are two guys. You finished in the top three passers
in the in college football this year. The two guys
I want are Kyle McCord and Jackson Come on, Zach Wilson.
Kyle McCord and Jackson dart Right. McCord finished, he had
an incredible senior year. He had one game where he
threw for less than three hundred yards okay, thirteen games.
One game was under three hundred yards. He finished with

(38:14):
over in his last two games, which was the upset
over Miami and the Bowl game. Eight hundred and fifty
yards passing in two games. He has shown you that
he is accurate. He knows where to go with the ball.
He is decisive as arm is strong. He's not very mobile,
and clearly that's where the air is because you look
at what seven of the eight quarterbacks left now are
all very mobile quarterbacks. I think Matthew Stafford is holding

(38:34):
up ball by himself of the non mobile guy. I
tell you what, guy, if you were.

Speaker 3 (38:39):
Betting the over rushing yards, yeah, yeah, well you did
it well because it was always like yeah exactly, And
all of a sudden.

Speaker 1 (38:46):
He's got an eight yard runs? How many kneel downs?
How many yards we had losing the kneel down? But
McCord has been that good all year. The confidence, the
tight windows he can get the football and Jackson Dart
has been phenomenal. He's a dual threat. Corps. They didn't
he could have got out of the pocket and run
even more than he did for Ole Miss. He can
throw the football down the field highly sot after recruit

(39:08):
who left USC and found his way in a big
passing offense under Lane Kiffin. These are the guys that
I want that if I'm in the second or third
round and I need a quarterback and I got to
fill my quarterback room, these are the two guys I
want over all the other ones. These are the guys,
and that's gonna be the curiosity.

Speaker 3 (39:23):
And I knew McCord was going to be your guy,
And sadly, I have no no dispute with it for
a couple of reasons. Just the physicality, as you say,
the ability to read and get the ball out. What
was the problem this week for the quarterbacks that failed
in the playoffs holding out of the ball, staring things down,

(39:43):
taking sacks. Wait, that was mostly Sam Darnold. It kind
of zeroed in and tried to expand it. But you know,
we all know the elephant in the room there But
for for Dart, for Roar got it in Indiana, right,
six ' five guy, big arm as well, like you've
got guys on the second and third day where you

(40:04):
don't have to reach right because if you get Sanders
or reward wrong, up top or you reach in the
back end of the first round and decide one of these.
You guy, you're potentially setting yourself back. How many times
do we see it with teams that you're reaching and
hoping to fit the square peg, round hole kind of thing,

(40:24):
and instead you're left and you're going back for another
quarterback two years later, as opposed to solidifying your d line,
your own line, and finding a guy who's a staple
for five to seven years at a minimum instead of reaching.

Speaker 1 (40:39):
Hey, look, there's something to be said for players and
quarterbacks who have three to four years experience all the
extra games play. They've seen a lot. We'll have more
on this and a big story out of the NFL
coming up next. We're going to talk superstars and who's
on the new list my ears.

Speaker 2 (40:55):
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They might get but they had through all that clutter. Uh,
they could be gotten through ten of those telling you, man,
prospective employees. Really tack one of the interviews. You finished,

(41:49):
the stamp on that subway card. Get a free foot
long sum. Can't wait. Joining us now in the hotline
to break down all the latest news in the NFL.
He is a long time NFL insider. He is with
the thirty thirteen, which is helping the Jets either find
a head coach and just get paid for many weeks
that you do for consulting. He listen, we just gonna
keep going and you don't don't pay me anymore. Oh yeah,
reports to write on every one of these guys. He

(42:11):
is a Hall of very Good voter. He is on
Twitter at Jason Cole sixty two. He is the aforementioned
Jason Cole. What's happening, Bud?

Speaker 5 (42:19):
Oh that is beautiful. Actually, we're I think we're getting
paid by the interview by the Jets.

Speaker 1 (42:26):
Oh okay, that's really good.

Speaker 5 (42:28):
It's like one hundred k per interview. So it could
take three or four months before you have a coach.

Speaker 1 (42:33):
Yeah, you're gonna you're gonna get them interview Adam Gase
to make him forget they had him in the first
place a few years ago.

Speaker 5 (42:41):
Jud How perfect would that be? Bringing back Gate?

Speaker 1 (42:44):
Wait a minute, I think I know this guy. Wait
a minute, but it escapes me. I know this guy.
He's wearing a fake mustache.

Speaker 5 (42:54):
Can you bring back? Can you bring back Lou Holt?
Can you do a gun?

Speaker 3 (42:58):
He was on social media all over today. Is have
fun with that?

Speaker 1 (43:02):
Hey? So he hate Ryan Day. Let me bring into
what we were talking about a few minutes ago, because
you got a tweet about him not too long ago. Uh,
you know, we're talking about the elite quarterbacks in the NFL.
I think there were there were five truly great quarterbacks
in the NFL, Guys who make everybody around them better
and they win games because of them regularly. And I
coming into this year, Mahomes, Burrow, Allen, Lamar Jackson, and

(43:26):
I think you got to add Jayden Daniels to that
list after what he's done so far his rookie year.

Speaker 5 (43:32):
Yeah, I'm trying to think. Yeah, Strouds close Herbert obviously,
despite the clunker in the in the playoff game, you
guys think he's close. Guys, there anybody else who's remotely
remotely close? Now that's about it. Maybe it's five to

(43:56):
seven guys. I mean, brock Perty's never really going to
be that guy who's, you know, super accurate guy who
would distributes the ball and they can get overwhelmed, you know,
physically in the pocket if they don't have a clean
pocket for him. So he's not Stafford. Stafford is in
that group too. I would, I would, I would, I

(44:18):
would argue for him.

Speaker 1 (44:20):
Okay, I'll let you argue Matthew Stafford. I had to
put my hand over Harmon's mouth because he kept saying
Caleb Williams, cl Williams.

Speaker 3 (44:27):
Is it not? And not?

Speaker 1 (44:28):
Come on? If I don't get Aaron Rodgers, you don't
get Caleb Williams.

Speaker 5 (44:32):
Well, yeah, let's just say that's a work in progress.
It's when cad who was it is the guy who
who who kicked Jim RUMs But to Jim Everett, Okay, yeah,
so Jim Jim Everett. And not that Caleb Williams and

(44:56):
Jim Everett would ever be mistaken for each other in
terms of style of play. But when Ernie's MPs, he
was the offensive coordinator of the Rams and he was
training Everett. One of the things he would do is
he would stand behind Everett as he would drop back
in practice and he count to three, one, two, three,

(45:19):
Ball's got to go, you know, get rid of it,
get rid of gout screaming at him in the middle
of practice. Caleb william needs that, you know, he needs that,
and he probably needs somebody to tether him to a
stake at the back of the pocket so that he
can only scramble so far during practice. Like, You've got

(45:40):
to get out of this habit that you think you
can leave the pocket and create, you know, thirteen second
plays every single time, because you're just killing your offensive
line too, you know, on top of the fact that
they're not very good to begin with, you're killing them.
So I still think Caleb has ability, but there are
some serious dats, right now.

Speaker 3 (46:01):
Well, that reverse spin that he used to pull off
at USC he usually finds a guy ready to plant
him Goldberg style with some regularity.

Speaker 5 (46:10):
Yeah, that's a that's a problem. Yeah, that reverse then
that Elway made famous once upon a time that he
stole from I think ram Tar content and I don't
know where fram got it, but yeah, like there's a
long history of that, and as as you go up
against bigger and better people, it tends not to work
as well.

Speaker 3 (46:29):
You can find all that chronicled in Jason Cole's book
about John Elway, as well as as many other works
at Amazon and other great bookstores.

Speaker 5 (46:36):
Oh God, I love you. I love you. Along with
the pizza, by the way, the pizza we're having that
for dinner tomorrow, having a couple of friends over, just
going to be what do you sending Smith, By the way.

Speaker 1 (46:48):
I'm sending you this Laurel and Hardy handshake for tomorrow
for dinner.

Speaker 3 (46:55):
There you go, Hey, now you got to go watch
Laurel and Hardy. Hey, Mike McCarthy in Dallas. Jason's really
kind of losing his mind that Robert Salah may find
his way back on an NFL sideline.

Speaker 1 (47:07):
What do you think of that.

Speaker 5 (47:10):
Falla fits the bill perfectly. I mean, here's the here's
the thing I'm thinking about Jerry he needs you know,
he's got to consider do I hire Belichick or Dion
or Pete Carroll. There's the other guy who's out there
with some notoriety, Adam. We talked about him, Adam Adam

(47:33):
Gate like Gruden, like bring back Rudin. That would be
a savvy move for the Cowboys.

Speaker 1 (47:39):
Rich co Tide also available. Yeah, but Rich very available, Yes.

Speaker 5 (47:45):
Yes, very much. Coach Fasio unfortunately is about the way,
but he would be on the list otherwise. No, the
question is is Jerry needs cover or does he think
that he needs cover from all the criticism. But the
thing is it's still not going to stop him from
boguarding all the post game press conferences and just overriding

(48:08):
the coach anyways. So it's not we're spending the money
and giving the power to somebody like beon our Belichick
or Carol or even Gruden. Although gorudenin would be desperinate
enough to take the job, it's not. It's not worth it,
you know, at the end of it, because he's still
going to garner all the attention and try and grab
it because it's just Jerry. So Sala is perfect because

(48:32):
Sala will basically do whatever Jerry wants. And you know,
like I think Jerry was surprised that McCarthy was willing
to walk away from this, But it tells you so
much that McCarthy's like, I'm just out of this man,
I'm just done, even if I don't get the Bear's job,
Like I'm out, you know, just get me out of

(48:54):
this mess, okay, because I can't go this way. That's
a really telling statement that McCarthy, it was desperate to
get back in five years ago when he got of
the Dallas shop. He is now just walking away from
it without really having that Chicago job assured.

Speaker 1 (49:11):
NFL insider Jason call our guest The Jason Smiths with
Mike Carmon live from the tirec dot Com Studios. All Right,
the last couple of days, we've clearly talked about all
the money Sam donald has lost with the last two
weeks he had in the regular season in playoffs. It's
like that old air conditioner commercial watch don't throw money
out the window, and all the money is flying out
the window. Forget about what's going to happen in your opinion?

(49:33):
What is the right thing for the Viking? Sam Donald?
What's the right thing for Donald where he sits right
now going into next year? What's the right thing to happen?

Speaker 5 (49:43):
Oh, I don't know. You could probably do three years
thirty million dollars.

Speaker 1 (49:48):
You think he's going to sign for ten million a year? Oh,
he's thirty five touchdowns? He did? He did throw thirty
five touchdowns in four thousand yards, a pretty goodyear.

Speaker 5 (50:00):
Did you watch the later I did?

Speaker 1 (50:02):
They were not good? And I would make sure that
if I'm sending out tape, I leave those two games
off and say, oh, yeah, we ran out of room
on this. Uh, just let's watch up to week sixteen.

Speaker 5 (50:11):
Because nobody else could possibly ever find tape of that game.
And that's that's impossible. Like if he doesn't, it's like
in high school, like, oh, what happened to the other
four games from your high schoolker?

Speaker 3 (50:23):
Oh?

Speaker 5 (50:23):
Those gout edited out? There's a couple of plays, you think.

Speaker 1 (50:26):
Do you really think Brick Johnson knows where to find
those last couple of games? Come on? Man?

Speaker 5 (50:32):
Oh Brick sorry uploaded him to it to his power
man Rick's got the entire catalog of every single game
from the season on it, so he can call it
up any moment when his dad wants to show me
them on third and ten what they do.

Speaker 1 (50:51):
And then it's a video game recreation. So he's a
dude from Draft Day Jonah from a Yeah, hey, call
up that play, call up that Vante v mac sack. Right,
let's watch who's not on the field.

Speaker 5 (51:02):
That's what and Brick are her names. They're kid Brick.

Speaker 1 (51:07):
Someone who liked Anchorman.

Speaker 5 (51:10):
Only Cowboy, only Sheriff Wood, he would name his kid
Brick like that's just uh sick as the brick.

Speaker 1 (51:18):
Maybe maybe hey, great song. Great Now, maybe he's a
big fan of Anchorman and he's a big fan of
Steve Curls Brick tambling, oh my sweet Brick.

Speaker 5 (51:25):
Oh but that would that be the best? Would that
be the best? If what he was to admit some
day that he named his kid after a can, after
a character and Anchorman, that would be the greatest thing
of all time.

Speaker 1 (51:38):
Low pressure, that would be. So for now we're going
to speak it into existence because you could make that.

Speaker 3 (51:45):
You could put that up on Wikipedia and make it fact.

Speaker 5 (51:48):
Oh, let's do it right now? What on Twitter? What's
it on Twitter?

Speaker 1 (51:54):
Doesn't matter? It doesn't matter, it doesn't matter, if at
all makes no difference. Does maybe you get a community play.

Speaker 5 (52:02):
The sound bite right now? Brick Johnson was named after
the character from Anchorman. Just put that out right now.

Speaker 1 (52:08):
Jason Cole goes viral tonight. According to Jays's NFL Insider
Jason Cole from the thirty third team, Brick was named
after Brick Tamplin. I don't know why.

Speaker 3 (52:17):
I don't want that guy helping in the hiring of
our coach anymore.

Speaker 1 (52:21):
All right, all that said, when the carousels, I might
get fired.

Speaker 5 (52:25):
I might get fired. I just I really might. I
might get fired and.

Speaker 1 (52:29):
You lose your Hall of Fame vote there. That would
happen too.

Speaker 5 (52:34):
Well, that might happen anyway, that might kick me off.
Who knows. You never know what's going to happen.

Speaker 3 (52:38):
Come on, we got a couple of weeks till the
next round of pageantry and us talking about who got snubbed.

Speaker 1 (52:43):
It's great.

Speaker 5 (52:45):
Uh, yeah, we got we got a couple of weeks
before we talked. We talked about that. Before you start
repeating your all of very good stuff, you know, yeah,
I brought that out.

Speaker 1 (52:56):
Hey, Brick Tamplon is a very good owner, and you're
gonna write Brick Tamble in a Relentless Life at some point,
and you're gonna be the biographer.

Speaker 3 (53:06):
Talking about when he cleared that video game hurdle when
he won the game. He played the Jurassic Park game
and got to the end where Jeff Goldbloom says, go
out and get some sunshine.

Speaker 1 (53:17):
I got my dad to not pay Ryan Fitzpatrick when
I was eleven years old. Man, that was the first
time I knew. And unless I got some of his
beard clippings.

Speaker 5 (53:27):
This is classic. This is so great.

Speaker 1 (53:31):
So we're spinning the wheel of coaches.

Speaker 3 (53:32):
We mentioned all the big names, right, all the guys
with pageantry and history and all this stuff.

Speaker 1 (53:38):
Where's the surprise gonna come?

Speaker 5 (53:39):
Is it?

Speaker 1 (53:40):
Jacksonville?

Speaker 3 (53:40):
Is like, who's getting on one of these thirty two
that we're not talking about enough?

Speaker 5 (53:47):
No, but it's gonna be I don't know if it's
just gonna be one. I think it might be secure
free jobs, because when you really think about it, enough
coaches to go around or in, so you could there
could be a high school guy out there you know,
looking for a job right now, and he might end
up in Jacksonville.

Speaker 1 (54:07):
So it's Jerry's bounced forty years later.

Speaker 3 (54:11):
But does that high school coach have enough cloud to
go to shod Con to get Trent Bulky fired Like
you no, I know.

Speaker 5 (54:19):
You're getting it wrong. Trent Balky will say, Oh, I
see this up and comers. He's at Pace Academy in Atlanta.
I just love this guy, and he might be able
to sell it at this point in time.

Speaker 1 (54:31):
Hey, three championships, that's right.

Speaker 5 (54:35):
What was that? What's that school that's on the river,
the Saint John River, and it's where Tipper Jones went.
I'm trying to remember the name of that school. Like
the high school coach there in Jacksonville, at that school,
he could easily have the job, works job at the
end of the week. Easy, especially if he has anything

(54:55):
to do with it, you know, just.

Speaker 1 (54:57):
The Boll schooled the Bowl school, not Todd Bowles.

Speaker 5 (55:00):
Yeah, Todd Bowles School, not.

Speaker 1 (55:03):
Todd Bowle School.

Speaker 5 (55:04):
Yeah, not Todd Bowles. B O. L L E. S.

Speaker 3 (55:08):
See what they're doing. Then music started playing. They've got
us on better clock management than Todd Bowles.

Speaker 5 (55:13):
Wow, look at this yeah, that's true. Wait ten seconds
after the playstat oh, I think it was this time
out now like I think, so it could be possible.
All right, I think they want us out of here
right by, J.

Speaker 1 (55:25):
Call No, they just want you going, so you can
go call Brick and right right as up, see you, buddy,
se J call there he goes the Jason Smith Show
with the Mike Harmon Live the tire rag dot Com Studios.
I really want him to write the Woody and Brick
Johnson story now like you just he did the l
way Book, I would write the way danswer he's around.

(55:47):
I got the Jets and draft Mark Sanchez when I
was six years old. I tell my dad take the
Sanchez kid. I didn't know anything, but he took him.

Speaker 3 (55:56):
Look, I watched a couple of those you know, three
hundred and those movies. I said, we need a guy
like that, and that guy played for USC. So yeah,
it made sense