January 17, 2025 • 41 mins
The knuckleheads debate if Aaron Rodgers will be starting Week 1 for the Jets in '25. Jason says goodbye to the love of his life Pete Alonso. Plus, the major reason Ben Johnson has possibly fallen to the Las Vegas Raiders!
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just a little bit more on Tom Brady before we
get into uh, I'll tell you exactly where Aaron Rodgers
is gonna play next year. Uh. You know, you know
we talked minutes ago. He's going to continue on to
do his contract with Fox. According to his agent, loves
broadcasting and wants to keep doing it. And I said, look,
a three man grew a three man booth would have
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been easier for his himself easing his way into broadcast.
Dennis Miller, someone that would have really bead pop because
you know, because that's whole thing is that like Dennis
Miller in two thousand was immediately met with this sucks.
I hate Dennis Miller now would be met with, oh,
that might be interesting. It's different, go back to Cornheiser
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and whatever else. Right, But that's the experimentation and changing thing.
You still have people that want nuts and bolts, and
you still need to give nuts and bolts.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
Right.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
You can't just say we're gonna go to dessert all
the time. So it needs to be a three man booth. Right,
Like if you said it's gonna be Dennis Miller and
a football guy, it's okay. Great, If it's Burkehrt and
Tom Brady and Greg Olsen or and somebody else, right, whoever,
whoever you want it to be, that's gonna be. Hey,
I'll get the nuts and bolts and let Tom Brady
come in. What he tells a story after plays here
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that would have gotten much more use to what it
means to be to be a broadcaster. And okay, maybe
in a year or so, Yeah, Okay, now I feel
good with a two man booth because I understand I
don't need to I don't need to say explain every
single play all the time and all the players who
were involved in every play, because that's like I see Brady
go here. What happens is is X, Y and Z
and you know he's Quentin Williams gets in. But then
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what happens is on the back CJ Moses able to
come in here and then come in here is that's
coming here? Like you get caught up with too much
and honestly, I mean, look, I've told you I'm someone
when I watch the games, I don't care who the
announcers are. I don't I listen, really pay attention listening
when okay, something is happening, something's going on, there's a
report on somebody who has heard, or we're talking about
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a replay. They're bringing the replay official to talk about
what this play is. I mean, I think wait, in
the end, we kind of just go too crazy over
what people say because I don't I don't remember what
Troy Eikman says diagramming plays on Monday Night. You remember
what they say in the loose moments right, And that's
where I say, that's where Brady would completely shine is
in the looser moments, like when does Troy Aikman make
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make news when he says, hey, when they come back
from break and they're still a minute to go before
the game starts, and Aikman says, here's going on with
the Cowboys. I don't know what the hell they're doing?
And I was this, Okay, that's a big deal. But
I don't remember anything anybody says about the gal here.
I'm explaining this all but generally it's outside of the
game eve unless there's a controversial thing like I'm sure
he would have had something to say about the A. J.
Brown book thing or one of those kind of you know, hey,
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we had a story from you know, the Cowboys. Obviously
we had a lot of stuff going on in the
early nineties. Aha, And then you get a jokers, let
me tell you what Nate Newton used to do. Whereas,
unfortunately for Brady, most of us gonna be like, well,
you know, Bill wouldn't let any of that stuff go
on no time. Bill would have said this, But but
you can as long as you're beholden enough to the game,
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you can get away. But I think that's the thing.
We've also evolved, right in terms of how a lot
of these are broadcast, and I think the Manning Cast
or all the these other alternate telecasts right where you
get fourteen different espns or whatever for championship games, Fox
Alternate Broadcast, whatever the case may be, the SpongeBob stuff like,
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there's just different angles to approach it. And in the end,
it's supposed to be fun. I want to learn something,
I want to know something. Look, and I'm we do
this for a living, and generally on a Sunday, I've
got the four box up and get guess what. I'm
listening to the audio broadcast out of Chicago to hear
them curse the Bears. I'm not listening to any of
the TV guys, and I'll catch a bit here and there.
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But that's me. That's my viewing and audio habits and
nuts and bolts. Maybe because I think I know more
than anybody else, but that's my own fault. But it's
just that, you know, now's the time where you can
get a little adventurous, and I think the Manning Cast
and all of those yeah, kind of showed you you
can get but you don't have to do ask answers,
answer ass cancer. You need to serve them both because
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let's just say you're watching the Man in cast and
it's fun and then something happens. There's a big play,
but there's a flag and they're looking at it, and
you know, Peyton and and Eli and they guy, they're
trying to talk and watch it, kind of like you
and I try to talk and watch a game, and
I think we do a pretty good job explaining stuff
when it happened. Sure, but they go, wait, what happened?
Why they throw the flag? What's going on? How long
are you staying with that broadcast until you go, I
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gotta go back and find out what this is all about. Right,
So you kind of need to still do both, but
you don't need to be so headed into detail on it.
But that's the thing though, like it's an individual spots
and that's where I mean, look, you gotta have someone
in the truck that's saying, shut up with your story.
There's a flag and nobody knows what the hell's going on.
Get to yeah, but now, but now it's like, okay,
finish your story. People are watching the game that no
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one's not watching. If they see holding offense number seventy eight,
they understand that, and eventually we know we're going to
see a replay and see the hold. Right. As long
as you show it to me, it's fine, and we're
in that eraran now where you know you got to
people have to understand. It's you know, when you get
outside the box a little bit. It's okay to get
too far outside the box. It might be a little
too much, but because people will still want to know.
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I want to know what's going on when something. I
don't want to turn the channel. I want you to
be able to to tell me what's happening. I want
you entertainment. I want everything I want. I want convenience.
I want you to tell me everyone exactly ills and
a three man booth can do that. And I don't
know why there's there's so much hesitancy for that. I
obviously it's money, you know, for while we can't afford it,
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but someplace like Fox and CBS, you could afford a
three man booth if you can pay. Somebody else would
like to get on there. They lost their ass when
they had dude up on a crane. Did that with booger.
I mean, well, you got to have the right three
people out there. You know, you have the right three
people out there. But that but that's something where I
think it's okay to get a little bit loose on
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to say, and look, clearly, you're spending the money to
make Tom Brady look good, right, I guess for other
other place as well. We don't have the money for
a three man booth here. It's a lot of cash. Yeah,
but no, but you'll you'll spend the money to make
Tom Brady look good and bring you a three man booth.
I mean it would be a different experience from whatsoever.
We would have a different opinion of him, and it
would be it would be like when Tony Romo first started,
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we were talking about, oh my god, Romo did this
predicting plays? Do he, X, Y and Z all of this?
If that happened, it's a different spot for Brady. The
other is, you know, asked and answered, so at times
it's the you made that point. Now now we need
a little more right. Not everything has to be big
third down, like if I if I can take a
drink whenevery analyst says, oh, huge third down here, it's
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like four minutes left in the first core. Huge yeah, huge,
yeah yeah, okay yeah huge play Jim, it's a huge play.
Jim chu chut nineteen Jim, Jim nineteen yards, Jip, How
are you gonna get nineteen yards? Jip Chip Chip Chip
like ninety? Come on, Jim nineteen Jim, Jim Jim Tony
the plays over what they get what they I didn't
see it. I didn't see it. It's all a work
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in progress. It's year one, and again the poison pens
were out from day one, so you're trying to claw
back from you know, you're in the negative, right that's uh,
you started by a spot in youring seven points. So
now from Tom Brady to another future NFL Hall of Famer,
Aaron Rodgers spoke for the first time since the Jets
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season ended today and talked about his future. Went on
the Pat McAfee show and said, well, what are you
gonna play next year? Are you going to play? We've
been hearing rumors about the Steelers and all these different things,
and Aaron Rodgers says, well, if the Jets want me,
we'll have that conversation. If they don't want me, probably
not going to be here Aaron Rodgers, Oh, come on,
tight shirt. Well here's Rogers. You're acting like that's not valid. No,
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that's John. A lot of Jets went yeah, okay, off
the air off oftentimes here he went fuller several times.
Here's Rogers from earlier today.
Speaker 4 (08:43):
I think everybody understands that it's gonna come down to
GM and the coach and myself and whether we all
want to do a dance together or if it's it's
not in the cards.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
Well, I'll tell you this dance, little sister dance. Don't
bring your date. They will Aaron Rodgers will be the
starting quarterback for the Jets week one of twenty twenty five.
And I'll tell you why because he's wait what I'll
tell you why? Has he kind of intimated this the
last few weeks? Hey, new coach and GM come in,
will make a decision. Ye say it all the right first, brilliant. Yeah,
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but hey, maybe Woody Johnson hates him, and he and
Woody have kind of been doing talk about a dance,
doing a dance around each other, and and and with
all the stories about Brick Johnson being the real decision maker,
and maybe I'll get fired by a teenager. If Woody
Johnson wanted to get rid of Aaron Rodgers, it would
have happened. We would know this. We would say we
are moving on because anybody interviewing for the Jets head
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coaching job is going to be told you're not going
to have him. And we would know that by now
because they interviewed twenty some odd people. It's hard to
kick loose lips sink ships, right, You had to be
hard to not know that. If Woody Johnson really wanted
to get rid of Aaron Rodgers, we would have known that
find out. But here's Rogers saying, next coaching GM. Okay,
next coaching GM, come in and what's the plan gonna
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be for the Jets? Are you getting your future quarterback
this year? No, you're not. You're not getting someone to
jump right in. Are you getting somebody in the second
or third round that might be your quarterback of the future? Yeah, Jackson, Dart,
Kyle McCord I like them to the best. We talked
about it last night. But maybe it's just podcast fall analysis.
Maybe it's Quinn Youers, Okay, this is the year to
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do that for the Jets. Specifically, they're gonna say Okay,
we're gonna have a quarterback in the second or third round.
You know, look, we we still I know that he's
you know, we took him last year and everybody, everybody
forgets because he got hurt at Florida State. But they
still have a big guy they like in Jordan Travis,
who they're hoping to be healthy, but he hasn't been.
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But you're looking at a quarterback room of Okay, so
a guy we get in the second or thread, let's
say it's Jackson Dart and Jordan Travis. Okay, we still
need a bridge quarterback. Who is better bridge quarterback you're
gonna get than Aaron Rodgers. You're not gonna go crazy
to go bring somebody because you're gonna want a new
quarterback in a year, so you're not going to go
crazy saying let's go spend all this money, let's trade
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for Kirk Cousins, Let's go bring Sam Donold back. That's
not happening. As you saw as the season went on,
Aaron Rodgers was better. Right, finished top ten touchdowns, top
ten in yards, didn't translate to wins, but still you
saw the Jets had way bigger problems than Aaron Rodgers,
and I will be willing to throw it out there
that he maybe needed a little bit longer to come
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back from his injury to feel like the old Aaron
Rodgers than we thought. I thought he would need three
four games. Turns out he needed about twelve. Right, But
when you're forty, this is what happens. He looked really
good in the last few weeks of the year, and
the Jets have much bigger issues than Aaron Rodgers. So
when he's gone through the blame game already of oh,
this whole season's Rodgers' fault, he's this, he's this, he's that.
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But then you fire the coach, you fire the GM,
you realize your defense is not very good. Rogers went
through the blame gauntlet and now he is out the
other side, to the point where the vibe around the
Jets as well. Yeah, they got a lot to worry
about next year. Quarterbacks really not at the in the
in the top two or three things. So, yeah, Aaron
Rodgers coming back for a year while he helps to
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groom the next two because he said I will do
that for another I'll groom the next two guys. I
know I'm getting close to the end. Of my playing career.
That's gonna happen, and the Jets are gonna have Aaron
Rodgers playing quarterback week one twenty twenty five. Now, doesn't
go all that way all the season, I don't know,
but week one, because there's no other way for the
Jets to really go forward that is not too much
dovetailing away from their plan. Yeah, I mean, you're drafting
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seventh overall, so unless you're packaging picks to try to
move up and decide that cam Ward or Shador Sanders
has to be your guy, you're not drafting a quarterback there.
And you saw so many glaring needs on that squad
beyond what the quarterback was that and that's where you
know we tie the Brady and Rogers together. Of as
I said, folks were ready to get after Tom Brady
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from the first syllable he uttered well with Aaron Rodgers
from the first drop back, same damn thing. Right. There
was some that were anticipating, wishing, wanting, hoping that all right,
here's a continuation of a career that was derailed after
a big injury in twenty twenty three. And then you
had everybody else who decided based on his vaccination views,
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political views, societal views, the fact that he used to
be a packer, the fact that he's a jet. That
they hated him and wanted him to fail at every turn.
And you know what, they didn't watch him play football
the back half of the season, right coming off a
massive injuries. You said, took a little bit longer. Also
trying to coordinate with what you had as an offense,
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and you got a coach fired and you had offensive
coordinators shifting about, like all of this about For Aaron Rodgers,
it's all new, it's all and you could practice it
all you want. You gotta go game speed eventually, and
it takes time. And he finished pretty well. You know, statistically,
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fantasy owners actually got some good juice from him down
the stretch when the quarterback mark it as a whole, right,
we didn't have a lot of top touchdown throwers this year.
A lot of guys supplemented on the run side of things.
But you know, with Garrett Wilson, with DeVante Adams down
the stretch, got to figure out what's going on there.
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Of course, Garrett Wilson, you've got a massage that and
make sure he still wants to stick around Breise Hall
in theory will be better because at seven, what are
you doing. You're drafting an offensive or a defensive lineman,
and you're building out from there. Whether Travis is the
next in line or you do go and get your guy.
You're really trying to talk McCord into existence. I dig
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that about you. You've already got him mocked up in
a Jets uniform. But if Rogers is true to his
word and is ready to be a mentor and be
a bit of a less of an ass and standoffish,
then I don't see how you don't win in that situation,
because again, in the open marketplace, what are you going
to get? What are you going to get? We talked
about it. It's I would say, yeah, but there's not
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You're not bringing him back, You're not trading for Kirk Cousins.
There's nobody. There's nobody in the first round, right Russ Fields. Yeah, No,
you're that's your guy telling you it's gonna be starting
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that should be like a definitive thing, but you know,
big news in baseball today, A couple of Mets insiders
have reported that Peter Alonzo is not going to be
a Met. It's going to sign someplace else. Mets sign
Jesse Winker today. Great love. They brought him back, good villain.
But they are preparing for Pee Alonzo to go someplace
else and not sign with the Mets. They had hoping
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he would sign a short deal with them with including
opt outs. And when I saw this today, I didn't
know how it was going to be, because, as I've
told you, I've said farewell to Pete. Once Pee Alonzo
hired Scott Boris as his agent, I said, Peter Alonso
is going to leave the Mets in a couple of years.
He's lept for one or two at Batch. You hated him.
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He's going to leave. He's gonna leave. And then he
hit the home run against the Brewers, which I still
watch probably three or four times a week. Yesterday, driving
into Worlds is that really? What? Oh? Do stop? Plattsburg? Wow,
that's killed Bubby. Oh stop, that's Bob Buker's last game.
That's the last killed Carl. That's the last game he
brought you and Alonso took down you. Yesterday I drove
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in I listened to the nineteen of the Mets Brewers game. Uh,
because someone put it on YouTube and it's like eighteen
minutes long. I'd listened to the top of the ninth
Any of the Mets brewers is fantastic. We got to
find our wins where we can. But uh, I mean,
I said goodbye to him because I knew Scott Boris
is gonna take him a free agency, is not going
to re sign. And really, I mean, even though being
that kind of hero, that kind of home run, you know, look,
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arguably the biggest home run in Mets history. I mean
that that kind of it just donated so much. Yeah, well,
but he's got it, so I can't I can't take
it away from him because he's got it. He's still Yeah,
he's still got the datest one that I go back to. Okay,
let's move on. You know, like as much as oh,
you want a guy to stay and be someone that
that comes up from the minders the stage of the team. Yeah, okay,
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we'll move on. You could have signed, you could have
signed for seven years, one hundred and fifty eight million
dollars last year, but no, no, no gambling that after
this year he'd be worth more. And now after a
down year, it's like that doesn't matter. I still want
more money. No, here's the thing, when you gamble in
free agency. You don't have a big year, you're going
to make less money. They don't. No One just deletes
that from memory and so oh, we're going back to work.
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Two years ago he had a chance. He could have
signed last year for seven one fifty eight. It's gotta
be a little bit more makes sense now, and it's
not gonna happen, honestly, Okay. If he plays somewhere else,
he's gonna play somewhere else, and and and the Mets
will move on. As as much as it pains me
for a guy with that kind of home run who's
come up and been a Met and been an All
Star five times and has been that good for so long,
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and more home runs in baseball the last six years,
and almost anybody if he goes, he goes like. I mean,
I'd like, I've said my goodbyes, and I'm okay if
it happens, Yeah, I think a lot of it. You
do still test the market plays seven for one fifty
eight got in his head, Hey we can maybe get more.
And guess what, the price of poker keeps going up.
The number of guys that are consistently hitting with big
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power numbers fewer in major League Baseball. He actually hit
two forty two. I mean, come on, yeah, yeah, he
hit two forty two. Forty Comma two as well, he
hit two forty also also said that I just wanted
to have fun with words, but thirty four I was
hurt by his words, and then I suffered an injury.
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Thirty four eighty eight thirty one doubles played all one
hundred and sixty two games. Is one thing he can
put up on his off the back of his baseball
card is I will be in the lineup every day.
He played the second game with that doubleheader against the
Braves on the final day of the season they wanted
to get in the playoffs. I rest everybody. Oh no, no,
Alonzo's gonna play. Okay, he's playing both games. Okay. He's
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a man of the people. He brought his lunch pail
every damn night. Uh. But to that end, yeah, you
see what other contracts are, and maybe you decided that
whether it was your own thinking or you're over over
the top work and binders of data from Scott Morris
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that he was able to convince you that hot dog sales,
ice cream inside mini helmets, all of those kind of
things that you contributed a little bit more, and so yeah,
you test the market. You're hoping that Cohen really is
the fanboy that he's projected to be to where it's
funny money, So an extra five million or ten million
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over three years isn't going to gut him, and instead
they stayed firm on whatever their stances. Do I believe
he had a seven year one hundred and fifty seven years. No,
I don't believe he had a seven year deal, but
that's what was reported. I saw it from Sherman. Yeah,
all of that. I don't believe he was ever offered
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a seven year deal. I'm something something in the in
the ballpark of seven years, fifty eight million. No, we're
not doing that, okay, I mean I don't think they.
Here's a thing souned. It was, hey, we're thinking seven
hundred and fifty hundred six Yeah, no, okay, all right,
see you next year. Good luck. But you go into that,
that's a pittance for a guy that sees himself and
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the market you would think, based on the longevity, based
on the consistency, would see as a superstar. Whether the
set again, they once we start getting into seven to
ten years, we've had these conversations for eleven years. Here,
all right, are you gonna mortgage? The back end is
going to be terrible when that body breaks down, that
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he gets you over the top. Now, And one would
argue based on everything they said, right, they got rid
of the two pitchers, they go off and do their thing.
They have a good year this year, that they were
going to push in harder, and that he hit the
home run that would give him that extra leverage. Yeah, look,
I can't look in the end it didn't pay off.
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But I like the guts. Yeah, and I'll and I'll
tell you this, I don't and and knowing the situation,
I don't think the door is closed. But the Mets
signing Jesse Winker today, this is them telling Pete Alonzo
it's now or never. Sure if you don't sign with
us now, we are moving on and they will either
go get Alex Bregman, they'll start signing relievers because now
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that they But if Pete Alonzo is not a met
in the next twenty four to thirty six hours, he's
gonna sit out to late in spring training, sign somewhere
for one year and twenty five million, and and try
to hit free agency again, because that's how it goes
to Jai him. If he became a Dodger, of course
he would you just oh me a Dodger. Now, no,
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I did strike me out here. Here's here's how you
get Alonzo out. All right, let me tell you this
is what we're gonna do. You know, money that's gonna be.
It is a lot. Maybe you'll sign for no money.
Maybe just sign for like ten bucks. You're gonna sell
a painting. We'll get Alonzo. Yeah, they're saying he rejected
an alleged three year deal uh earlier in this offseason
for somewhat ninety ish million because they want op after
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every year. It's like, okay, you're not driving the market anymore.
We saw what first basemans are getting in free agency.
You overplayed your hand. You lose, just like in any
of that. You know, you win some negotiations, you lose some.
Scott Boris is losing this one with Pete. Alonzo made
a bad bet on the market. The market is showing
you what it is for first basement and now you're losing.
If he's not a met in the next thirty six hours,
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it's absolutely done. He'll wait beginning a spring training, will
sign someplace else, someplace it's very hit or friendly, where
he'll go for a year to try to get those
numbers back up and at free agency again in another
twelve months. That's how it's going to go. Yes, spoke Track,
that's how I pronounce it. Says the estimated market value
would be a six year, one seventy four. But he's
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not getting it, which clearly he's not getting getting it.
But I can understand where he's looking around the marketplace
and saying, my AAV should be higher. Yeah, based on
what I've done. You could be wrong. Yeah, but your
value is what someone's willing to do, and that's just it.
That's right. You're also sitting here on January now, sixteen.
There is no you got a month before you report.
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So we'll have more baseball coming up a minute. And
if pied A Lonzo does sign, of course we will
bring you that. But or Sasaki, uh yeah, that Sasaki
should be coming soon any day now. I was told
it was as done it as this morning, like a
week ago. Didn't he get vegas. I just can't announce it.
A lot of deferred money I'll right into my pocket.
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I mentioned a few minutes ago. You know we're getting
set now now is the best weekend of football. All
the top seeds are playing. We're going to see an
incredible game with the Ravens and the Bills. But I'll
tell you what I was thinking about this a lot
this week. Now you know the Sonic and Knuckles are back.
Now David Montgomery's gonna play for the Lions, and seeing
their big run this year, he got past your current
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seeing their run this year and the amount of attention
that is on cambelling right, which is not just going
for it on fourth down, but making decisions, and that
maybe maybe you don't want to do that here. Maybe
I'm telling you the line season's gonna end with us
talking about what was Dan Campbell thinking? But the flip
side of this, I will tell you, and seeing it
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last weekend in the NFL really brought it home for me.
Is that what the Lions are doing. What one of
their big legacies to the game and Dan Campbell's legacy
to the game that we're seeing a little bit, but
it's just gonna be everywhere next year. Is you are
now regularly going to see teams going for it in
the other team's end of the field on fourth down
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much more than they do now. Right, if it's fourth
in less than a yard, It used to be all right,
maybe we'll go for it here, but boy, want to
get a field goal. Don't want to come away from
here with no points. Right, But now the Lions have
done it. Fourth and three, fourth and four, fourth and seven. Hey,
this is what we do. We go for it on
fourth down. You're starting to see teams go for it
on fourth down a little more often because they see
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the Lions, they see what happens when they succeed. They understand.
It's an offensive league now. It's not like it was
where hey, every point is precious and most games are
twenty to seventeen. It's not that way. Most games are
twenty seven to twenty four, thirty one, twenty eight, eight,
twenty nine, twenty eight. And the lines going for it
on fourth down. You've seen other teams start to loosen
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up going for it on fourth and short. And by
fourth and short, I mean fourth and four or less.
When it's fourth and seven, fourth and eight. You're still
going to see teams kicking field goals, but fourth and
four is going to become the new fourth and inches
when you're talking about being on the other side of
midfield or being close to striking distance. Because the field
goal kicking in the NFL, we were at the highest
level we were at ever about five or seven years ago.
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That's come down the other side of the mountain now
at kickers are much more unreliable. We had the great
era of the kicker. We've gone past it. Like the
air of peak television came and now it's gone. The
air of the kicker came and now it's gone. Teams
are going to see that that is a that's a
reasonable amount of yards to make on fourth down because
with our playmakers, we can throw the football fourth and three,
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fourth and four that is makeable. So that's gonna almost
be I would say next year close to fifty percent
of the time if a team is close in striking
distance and they're faced with a fourth and fourth and
three fourth and four or less, they're gonna go for
it because you watch the Lines do it on National
TV every weekend. If somehow it ends this year when
the Lines winning the Super Bowl and converting a whole
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bunch of fourth downs, that's gonna be their legacy Next year.
It's gonna be fourth and three. Let's go for it.
We can get three yards. We can get three yards.
That happen fourth and half A fourth and half a
yard used to be Ooh, I don't know we're gonna
do this or not.
Speaker 2 (28:29):
I'm not sure.
Speaker 1 (28:29):
I'm really nervous. Let's kick a field goal now to
fourth and inches, run it up and just snap it.
We're gonna get a first that we're not gonna get stopped.
And if you get stopped, okay, it's still such a
big offensive game where you're gonna have enough time to
make up those points. But the gamble will be seen
as worth it on fourth and four and less for
taines because they're gonna think offensively. We have the horses
to get these yards. Other teams don't know how they're
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gonna play us. We get right up to the line
of scrimmage, we call a play, we have a bunch formation,
whatever we want to do. We're gonna put the defense
on their heels and go for it and they're gonna
have to adjust and you're gonna see that next year
in a big way. Now, I'd like you to look
straight in that cam, in that camera right there, Hi
and apologize to Dan Campbell. Why David Montgomery, I know,
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well that goes without Montgomery is healthy's back. Don't know
that he's hasn't played yet. He's practicing practice. We're talking
about practice. He is not talking about a game. Not
a game. Not a game, not a game, not a game.
He is not blamed me once for his injury. By
the way, I don't know that. I do know, I
in quiet shnos. He may have a picture you printed
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out that he's throwing darts at this guy who wanted
me to eat a burger and then I got hurt.
He's throwing Mike Well, I mean full on right. That's
a whole other new trend. But you can never use
the term cambeling again. No, No, there's going for it
on fourth down, going for it on fourth and three.
Then there's going for it on the twelve yard line
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on fourth and eight, which is what are you doing
that you're asking a little bit too much, which is
campbeling right, Oh, fourth era, We're gonna go for right
here on fourth and seven for our own thirty three
yard line. Ooh, I don't know about that, man, I
don't know. Fourth and shortish shortish, which is three four
or less. Yeah, but Dan Campbell gets full of we
go for it on fourth, then all right, day man
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Campbell is shooting forty five year old forty five yard
field goal. Shoot a forty five year old kicking. He
decided he didn't want the forty We did not want
Doug Bryan kicking field goals for us. Goff avoided the pressure.
Reynolds was open, didn't catch the ball. You've killed him
all off season under your new NFL. He made the
right call. Now, last week, what did I do to
(30:38):
Kevin O'Connell. I took put a bunch of blame on
him because everybody wanted to kill Sam Donald. How about
you take a field goal in the first quarter, early
second quarter, taking three points. Now, you know what, we're
gonna need a lot of points against life. You know
what you didn't? You didn't You could have played that
game completely differently, and instead, what'd you do? You gacked
away any confidence to pick up a sh he already
(31:00):
your red zone first down touchdown later on in the
game all gone evaporated, and then you got runned over
by your guy Gibbs. Did you say run over? I
damn right, run over? Are you say if you read
during football games like aj Brown, you would have said
run over or ran over? He got runned over his comedy. Hey,
(31:25):
I'm Mike Harmon for Northwestern University. You want to get
run over, go to Northwest. You gotta get run over.
Bye bye book, I'll tell you how to avoid No
time now to find out what's trending in the wide
world of sports. From Monzi Milanios monsie what you got?
Did you get run over?
Speaker 3 (31:40):
The Clippers are getting the The Trailblazers are getting runed over.
Speaker 1 (31:44):
There we go.
Speaker 3 (31:44):
The Trailblazers are getting runed over by the Clippers.
Speaker 1 (31:47):
Just back to back scheduling in the history. At the end,
the Clippers gonna win seventy again.
Speaker 3 (31:53):
No no, no, We're gonna keep it a little closer
this time. But they are of seventy six forty seven
five minutes to go in the third. James Harden seventeen points,
six assists, the Rockets trying to win six in a row.
They are still losing to the Kings and Sacramento, but
it's been a close game the entire time. Sacramento is
up ninety eighty five after three quarters. De Monte Sabonis
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sixteen points, fifteen rebounds, six assists, like it's any other
day for him. The basers are the bass already beat
the Pistons, excuse me, one eleven to one hundred. The
Suns took down the Wizards one thirty to one twenty three.
But the Wizard's covered, so that's good. If you took
the Wizards to cover it was eleven or like eleven
and a half.
Speaker 2 (32:33):
To cover.
Speaker 1 (32:34):
Say it. I'm just saying.
Speaker 3 (32:36):
The Thunder runs over the Cavaliers before thank you to
one fourteen. Shake Kilchis Alexander had forty points and eight
assists in the win. Other NBA news, I'm sure you've heard.
Speaker 1 (32:48):
About this, but it's weird.
Speaker 3 (32:50):
Maverick Carter, Lebron James business manager, has been enlisted as
an advisor by a group of investors seeking to raise
five billion dollars to form in international basketball league that
would serve as a rival to the NBA. The group
would like to form a league consisting of six men's
teams six women's teams that play around the world. YESPN
reports that Lebron James is not involved.
Speaker 1 (33:13):
Sure, sure, he's not.
Speaker 3 (33:15):
In college hoops number twenty Michigan went down to the
wire and then some against Minnesota, and Minnesota wanted in
overtime eighty four eighty one thanks to a logo three
from Dawson Garcia at the Buzzer Temple defeated Number eighteen
Memphis eighty eight to eighty one. Right now in college hoops,
Oregon State beating Number sixteen Gonzaga twenty five to twenty
one with about seven minutes to go in the first half.
(33:38):
And on the ice, we've got the oilers in the
Avalanche still tied at three apiece early in the third period. Lastly, here,
I don't know if you guys heard this story. You
were talking to Jay Glazer about the fires and now
that terrible stuff happening here in la Hall of Fame
Tennis player at Pam Shreiver. Her car was stolen overnight
at a Marina del Rey hotel. She escaped the fires,
(33:59):
that's where she went. Her car contained all of her
major trophies, so five US Open trophies, five French Open plates,
five Wimbledon trophies and one Australian Open trophy that were
in her car that was stolen from a hotel in
Marina del Rey, which is where she fled.
Speaker 1 (34:15):
Well, here I will say this, good luck selling them. Yeah, no,
that's you know what. Here's the one thing I will say. Yeah,
you're likely to get those back sounds go to find
how terrible like just imagine. But back to you guys,
all right, thank you MONSI The Jason Smith Show with
my best friend Mike Carmen Live the Tirec dot Com Studios.
Coming up next, Why are the Raiders potentially closing in
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on the most sought after head coach in this current cycle,
Brandon Staley. We'll tell all right, second most sought after,
We'll tell you why. Coming up next, Jason and Mike
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Speaker 1 (35:06):
And you're probably surprised by the report earlier today Ian
Rapaport the NFL Network Now Ian Rappaport, but uh wow,
I'm just saying. Ian Rappaport says that the Raiders potentially
could be closing in on hiring Ben Johnson to be
their next head coach, and obviously, you know you have
(35:28):
to wait to talk. You can only have interviews that
are over zoom. And of obviously with the lines and
the playoffs, we're in a game prep meeting. Tom Brady
has I'm dressed up in disguise. I'm just like day
of the chuckle, I'm trusted them in disguise. He's asking
him questions about, you know, defensive ends and how you
(35:52):
account for pressure off the edges in you get a
chip a little and he's holding up with it as
Raiders question mark now Ben Jonsons. Ben Johnson for the
last two years has been the hottest name in coaching,
right at the top of everybody's list. The offense he's
put out there at the Troit. But how the hell
is Ben Johnson at the point where it's the Raiders
(36:14):
right like whoa, whoa? This should be like guys that
don't normally get jobs or last chance hotel. The Jets
even said we don't want to talk to him, likely
because Ben Johnson would say forget it. But the reason
Ben Johnson is sort of falling through the cracks right
now and teams are talking to everybody going outside the
box is because the era of the hot coordinator is ending,
(36:38):
and that was the thread for the longest time. Hey,
who should get the next head coaching jobs in the NFL?
Who are the hot offensive and defensive coordinators this year?
What have they done the last couple of years? Hey,
it's time to promote them. Maybe they're great head coaches,
but what have we seen. It's a mixed bag. It's
a mixed bag because is a guy who's a great
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coordinator a great coach. Sometimes there's not to be really
good coaches. Sometimes they don't and it's a real big risk.
Like I don't know if Ben Johnson's gonna be good.
If he could bring his players from Detroit with him,
he'd be great, but you can't. So why That's why
he's probably been linked with the Bears more than any
team because the Bears have really good skill position players
that need that. Now, how does he get down to
(37:23):
the Raiders Because a lot of teams, especially in this cycle,
are looking for the CEO head coach. All of these
op job opportunities and openings are bad. They're all teams
that are starting over or need someone who can be
in charge of the whole program so things don't spiral
out of control and things get embarrassing, right like with
the Jets, or we saw with the Patriots and the Pages,
(37:45):
and no, we're going to get Mike Rabel, who clearly
has shown I can run an entire program by myself, right,
the Jaguars need somebody to be able to do that.
All the openings that are here, they're all bad. They're
all bad openings. SAS's. There's no team that hey, we're
a little bit away from the playoffs and we're really good.
We just need that great offensive or defensive mind to
get us over the top. No, none of those teams
are like that. So Ben Johnson is sort of not
(38:07):
quite the shiny new toy because teams are looking for
something different than what he wanted. Well, the Bears wanted
a whole thing from Ben Johnson. What's your leadership plan?
I mean, really, this tells you that teams are not
looking for the hot coordinators who can come in and
set a culture and run a program that gets us
back to where we need to be, so we're not
backsliding and we're not making embarrassing headlines all year long.
(38:30):
That's why Ben Johnson has fallen to the Raiders, who
normally would be like, we'll just take whoever's left. Oh,
now we get the hot offensive coordinator. Oh yeah, but
now you see why. Well it becomes some of it
with Brady and his involvement with the Raiders has to
play an effect. Whatever it is on the pie chart,
whether it's building the relationship, fanboying, whatever term you want
(38:51):
to use with it, and the idea of changing direction,
Mark Davis relinquished role, whatever that is, shot on not
going anywhere. Cowboys. You're removed from twelve wins. You got
a roster that's okay, not great, not terrible. It's not
the worst roster in the league. You got some players.
You got to keep guys healthy and move from there
(39:13):
and see what you get out of deck. But so
you're you're tied to a quarterback. Do you necessarily want that?
Do you want to deal with Jerry Jones? Are you
okay with being a puppet? As so many yous. I
don't quite use it the same way, but that's the
way it's generally characterized in our sports media world. So
we'll leave it there. With the Bears, do they have
(39:34):
a GM like they Ryan Poles is a guy in
name is he actually doing the hiring? Don't know the
leadership thing. They at least listen to everybody on their
exit interviews. They had an intern go back, Hey, what
did all the players say on the way out? Leadership
someone who's actually in charge of a locker room. So yes,
a leadership plan based on every guy that got in
(39:57):
front of a microphone over a six week period. Hell,
go back to week four or five when Comett was
talking about it. Right, it's a consistent theme of we
need the leader of men, so that flows. But for
Ben Johnson, Bobby slowing down in Houston, Right, the offensive
line wasn't great, even though you got great years from
from a great year from Mixon and Nico Collins when
(40:18):
he was healthy. Not the same sexiness to it. Right,
You want guys that are gonna be able to come
in and build and in theory, actually get the assurances
that they're gonna get to build versus yeah, come take
the job. I may have two hands on the edge
of that run ready to pull it out from you
at any time. That's the other part is you want
(40:39):
a guy that's going to build that plan as opposed
to is it a flash in the pan, and can
he only work with these players? Yeah, it's it's it's
a case of if you're if you're so confident in
someone's leadership skills, it's not gonna matter. And for certain
guys it doesn't matter. But hey, here's but we don't
know what he really feels safer with a Mike McCarthy.
(40:59):
We feel some with Mike Vrabel because we've seen them
do it before and succeed, and we think we can
do it here. He's still getting he did. Bears are
talking to him too. I mean really, I mean Ben Johnson,
He's just it's not the trendy thing. We'll have more
on this story and another big story out of the
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just a little bit more on Tom Brady before we
get into uh, I'll tell you exactly where Aaron Rodgers
is gonna play next year. Uh. You know, you know
we talked minutes ago. He's going to continue on to
do his contract with Fox. According to his agent, loves
broadcasting and wants to keep doing it. And I said, look,
a three man grew a three man booth would have
(01:14):
been easier for his himself easing his way into broadcast.
Dennis Miller, someone that would have really bead pop because
you know, because that's whole thing is that like Dennis
Miller in two thousand was immediately met with this sucks.
I hate Dennis Miller now would be met with, oh,
that might be interesting. It's different, go back to Cornheiser
(01:34):
and whatever else. Right, But that's the experimentation and changing thing.
You still have people that want nuts and bolts, and
you still need to give nuts and bolts.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
Right.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
You can't just say we're gonna go to dessert all
the time. So it needs to be a three man booth. Right,
Like if you said it's gonna be Dennis Miller and
a football guy, it's okay. Great, If it's Burkehrt and
Tom Brady and Greg Olsen or and somebody else, right, whoever,
whoever you want it to be, that's gonna be. Hey,
I'll get the nuts and bolts and let Tom Brady
come in. What he tells a story after plays here
(02:05):
that would have gotten much more use to what it
means to be to be a broadcaster. And okay, maybe
in a year or so, Yeah, Okay, now I feel
good with a two man booth because I understand I
don't need to I don't need to say explain every
single play all the time and all the players who
were involved in every play, because that's like I see Brady
go here. What happens is is X, Y and Z
and you know he's Quentin Williams gets in. But then
(02:26):
what happens is on the back CJ Moses able to
come in here and then come in here is that's
coming here? Like you get caught up with too much
and honestly, I mean, look, I've told you I'm someone
when I watch the games, I don't care who the
announcers are. I don't I listen, really pay attention listening
when okay, something is happening, something's going on, there's a
report on somebody who has heard, or we're talking about
(02:47):
a replay. They're bringing the replay official to talk about
what this play is. I mean, I think wait, in
the end, we kind of just go too crazy over
what people say because I don't I don't remember what
Troy Eikman says diagramming plays on Monday Night. You remember
what they say in the loose moments right, And that's
where I say, that's where Brady would completely shine is
in the looser moments, like when does Troy Aikman make
(03:07):
make news when he says, hey, when they come back
from break and they're still a minute to go before
the game starts, and Aikman says, here's going on with
the Cowboys. I don't know what the hell they're doing?
And I was this, Okay, that's a big deal. But
I don't remember anything anybody says about the gal here.
I'm explaining this all but generally it's outside of the
game eve unless there's a controversial thing like I'm sure
he would have had something to say about the A. J.
Brown book thing or one of those kind of you know, hey,
(03:29):
we had a story from you know, the Cowboys. Obviously
we had a lot of stuff going on in the
early nineties. Aha, And then you get a jokers, let
me tell you what Nate Newton used to do. Whereas,
unfortunately for Brady, most of us gonna be like, well,
you know, Bill wouldn't let any of that stuff go
on no time. Bill would have said this, But but
you can as long as you're beholden enough to the game,
(03:51):
you can get away. But I think that's the thing.
We've also evolved, right in terms of how a lot
of these are broadcast, and I think the Manning Cast
or all the these other alternate telecasts right where you
get fourteen different espns or whatever for championship games, Fox
Alternate Broadcast, whatever the case may be, the SpongeBob stuff like,
(04:11):
there's just different angles to approach it. And in the end,
it's supposed to be fun. I want to learn something,
I want to know something. Look, and I'm we do
this for a living, and generally on a Sunday, I've
got the four box up and get guess what. I'm
listening to the audio broadcast out of Chicago to hear
them curse the Bears. I'm not listening to any of
the TV guys, and I'll catch a bit here and there.
(04:33):
But that's me. That's my viewing and audio habits and
nuts and bolts. Maybe because I think I know more
than anybody else, but that's my own fault. But it's
just that, you know, now's the time where you can
get a little adventurous, and I think the Manning Cast
and all of those yeah, kind of showed you you
can get but you don't have to do ask answers,
answer ass cancer. You need to serve them both because
(04:56):
let's just say you're watching the Man in cast and
it's fun and then something happens. There's a big play,
but there's a flag and they're looking at it, and
you know, Peyton and and Eli and they guy, they're
trying to talk and watch it, kind of like you
and I try to talk and watch a game, and
I think we do a pretty good job explaining stuff
when it happened. Sure, but they go, wait, what happened?
Why they throw the flag? What's going on? How long
are you staying with that broadcast until you go, I
(05:17):
gotta go back and find out what this is all about. Right,
So you kind of need to still do both, but
you don't need to be so headed into detail on it.
But that's the thing though, like it's an individual spots
and that's where I mean, look, you gotta have someone
in the truck that's saying, shut up with your story.
There's a flag and nobody knows what the hell's going on.
Get to yeah, but now, but now it's like, okay,
finish your story. People are watching the game that no
(05:39):
one's not watching. If they see holding offense number seventy eight,
they understand that, and eventually we know we're going to
see a replay and see the hold. Right. As long
as you show it to me, it's fine, and we're
in that eraran now where you know you got to
people have to understand. It's you know, when you get
outside the box a little bit. It's okay to get
too far outside the box. It might be a little
too much, but because people will still want to know.
(06:00):
I want to know what's going on when something. I
don't want to turn the channel. I want you to
be able to to tell me what's happening. I want
you entertainment. I want everything I want. I want convenience.
I want you to tell me everyone exactly ills and
a three man booth can do that. And I don't
know why there's there's so much hesitancy for that. I
obviously it's money, you know, for while we can't afford it,
(06:23):
but someplace like Fox and CBS, you could afford a
three man booth if you can pay. Somebody else would
like to get on there. They lost their ass when
they had dude up on a crane. Did that with booger.
I mean, well, you got to have the right three
people out there. You know, you have the right three
people out there. But that but that's something where I
think it's okay to get a little bit loose on
(06:43):
to say, and look, clearly, you're spending the money to
make Tom Brady look good, right, I guess for other
other place as well. We don't have the money for
a three man booth here. It's a lot of cash. Yeah,
but no, but you'll you'll spend the money to make
Tom Brady look good and bring you a three man booth.
I mean it would be a different experience from whatsoever.
We would have a different opinion of him, and it
would be it would be like when Tony Romo first started,
(07:03):
we were talking about, oh my god, Romo did this
predicting plays? Do he, X, Y and Z all of this?
If that happened, it's a different spot for Brady. The
other is, you know, asked and answered, so at times
it's the you made that point. Now now we need
a little more right. Not everything has to be big
third down, like if I if I can take a
drink whenevery analyst says, oh, huge third down here, it's
(07:25):
like four minutes left in the first core. Huge yeah, huge,
yeah yeah, okay yeah huge play Jim, it's a huge play.
Jim chu chut nineteen Jim, Jim nineteen yards, Jip, How
are you gonna get nineteen yards? Jip Chip Chip Chip
like ninety? Come on, Jim nineteen Jim, Jim Jim Tony
the plays over what they get what they I didn't
see it. I didn't see it. It's all a work
(07:47):
in progress. It's year one, and again the poison pens
were out from day one, so you're trying to claw
back from you know, you're in the negative, right that's uh,
you started by a spot in youring seven points. So
now from Tom Brady to another future NFL Hall of Famer,
Aaron Rodgers spoke for the first time since the Jets
(08:08):
season ended today and talked about his future. Went on
the Pat McAfee show and said, well, what are you
gonna play next year? Are you going to play? We've
been hearing rumors about the Steelers and all these different things,
and Aaron Rodgers says, well, if the Jets want me,
we'll have that conversation. If they don't want me, probably
not going to be here Aaron Rodgers, Oh, come on,
tight shirt. Well here's Rogers. You're acting like that's not valid. No,
(08:33):
that's John. A lot of Jets went yeah, okay, off
the air off oftentimes here he went fuller several times.
Here's Rogers from earlier today.
Speaker 4 (08:43):
I think everybody understands that it's gonna come down to
GM and the coach and myself and whether we all
want to do a dance together or if it's it's
not in the cards.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
Well, I'll tell you this dance, little sister dance. Don't
bring your date. They will Aaron Rodgers will be the
starting quarterback for the Jets week one of twenty twenty five.
And I'll tell you why because he's wait what I'll
tell you why? Has he kind of intimated this the
last few weeks? Hey, new coach and GM come in,
will make a decision. Ye say it all the right first, brilliant. Yeah,
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but hey, maybe Woody Johnson hates him, and he and
Woody have kind of been doing talk about a dance,
doing a dance around each other, and and and with
all the stories about Brick Johnson being the real decision maker,
and maybe I'll get fired by a teenager. If Woody
Johnson wanted to get rid of Aaron Rodgers, it would
have happened. We would know this. We would say we
are moving on because anybody interviewing for the Jets head
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coaching job is going to be told you're not going
to have him. And we would know that by now
because they interviewed twenty some odd people. It's hard to
kick loose lips sink ships, right, You had to be
hard to not know that. If Woody Johnson really wanted
to get rid of Aaron Rodgers, we would have known that
find out. But here's Rogers saying, next coaching GM. Okay,
next coaching GM, come in and what's the plan gonna
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be for the Jets? Are you getting your future quarterback
this year? No, you're not. You're not getting someone to
jump right in. Are you getting somebody in the second
or third round that might be your quarterback of the future? Yeah, Jackson, Dart,
Kyle McCord I like them to the best. We talked
about it last night. But maybe it's just podcast fall analysis.
Maybe it's Quinn Youers, Okay, this is the year to
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do that for the Jets. Specifically, they're gonna say Okay,
we're gonna have a quarterback in the second or third round.
You know, look, we we still I know that he's
you know, we took him last year and everybody, everybody
forgets because he got hurt at Florida State. But they
still have a big guy they like in Jordan Travis,
who they're hoping to be healthy, but he hasn't been.
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But you're looking at a quarterback room of Okay, so
a guy we get in the second or thread, let's
say it's Jackson Dart and Jordan Travis. Okay, we still
need a bridge quarterback. Who is better bridge quarterback you're
gonna get than Aaron Rodgers. You're not gonna go crazy
to go bring somebody because you're gonna want a new
quarterback in a year, so you're not going to go
crazy saying let's go spend all this money, let's trade
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for Kirk Cousins, Let's go bring Sam Donold back. That's
not happening. As you saw as the season went on,
Aaron Rodgers was better. Right, finished top ten touchdowns, top
ten in yards, didn't translate to wins, but still you
saw the Jets had way bigger problems than Aaron Rodgers,
and I will be willing to throw it out there
that he maybe needed a little bit longer to come
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back from his injury to feel like the old Aaron
Rodgers than we thought. I thought he would need three
four games. Turns out he needed about twelve. Right, But
when you're forty, this is what happens. He looked really
good in the last few weeks of the year, and
the Jets have much bigger issues than Aaron Rodgers. So
when he's gone through the blame game already of oh,
this whole season's Rodgers' fault, he's this, he's this, he's that.
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But then you fire the coach, you fire the GM,
you realize your defense is not very good. Rogers went
through the blame gauntlet and now he is out the
other side, to the point where the vibe around the
Jets as well. Yeah, they got a lot to worry
about next year. Quarterbacks really not at the in the
in the top two or three things. So, yeah, Aaron
Rodgers coming back for a year while he helps to
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groom the next two because he said I will do
that for another I'll groom the next two guys. I
know I'm getting close to the end. Of my playing career.
That's gonna happen, and the Jets are gonna have Aaron
Rodgers playing quarterback week one twenty twenty five. Now, doesn't
go all that way all the season, I don't know,
but week one, because there's no other way for the
Jets to really go forward that is not too much
dovetailing away from their plan. Yeah, I mean, you're drafting
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seventh overall, so unless you're packaging picks to try to
move up and decide that cam Ward or Shador Sanders
has to be your guy, you're not drafting a quarterback there.
And you saw so many glaring needs on that squad
beyond what the quarterback was that and that's where you
know we tie the Brady and Rogers together. Of as
I said, folks were ready to get after Tom Brady
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from the first syllable he uttered well with Aaron Rodgers
from the first drop back, same damn thing. Right. There
was some that were anticipating, wishing, wanting, hoping that all right,
here's a continuation of a career that was derailed after
a big injury in twenty twenty three. And then you
had everybody else who decided based on his vaccination views,
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political views, societal views, the fact that he used to
be a packer, the fact that he's a jet. That
they hated him and wanted him to fail at every turn.
And you know what, they didn't watch him play football
the back half of the season, right coming off a
massive injuries. You said, took a little bit longer. Also
trying to coordinate with what you had as an offense,
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and you got a coach fired and you had offensive
coordinators shifting about, like all of this about For Aaron Rodgers,
it's all new, it's all and you could practice it
all you want. You gotta go game speed eventually, and
it takes time. And he finished pretty well. You know, statistically,
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fantasy owners actually got some good juice from him down
the stretch when the quarterback mark it as a whole, right,
we didn't have a lot of top touchdown throwers this year.
A lot of guys supplemented on the run side of things.
But you know, with Garrett Wilson, with DeVante Adams down
the stretch, got to figure out what's going on there.
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Of course, Garrett Wilson, you've got a massage that and
make sure he still wants to stick around Breise Hall
in theory will be better because at seven, what are
you doing. You're drafting an offensive or a defensive lineman,
and you're building out from there. Whether Travis is the
next in line or you do go and get your guy.
You're really trying to talk McCord into existence. I dig
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that about you. You've already got him mocked up in
a Jets uniform. But if Rogers is true to his
word and is ready to be a mentor and be
a bit of a less of an ass and standoffish,
then I don't see how you don't win in that situation,
because again, in the open marketplace, what are you going
to get? What are you going to get? We talked
about it. It's I would say, yeah, but there's not
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You're not bringing him back, You're not trading for Kirk Cousins.
There's nobody. There's nobody in the first round, right Russ Fields. Yeah, No,
you're that's your guy telling you it's gonna be starting
for the Jets. Got sho Week one exit out about
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what we've seen going on with the Lions this year.
Cheaper food, well, cheaper food is It's not a trend
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that should be like a definitive thing, but you know,
big news in baseball today, A couple of Mets insiders
have reported that Peter Alonzo is not going to be
a Met. It's going to sign someplace else. Mets sign
Jesse Winker today. Great love. They brought him back, good villain.
But they are preparing for Pee Alonzo to go someplace
else and not sign with the Mets. They had hoping
(17:38):
he would sign a short deal with them with including
opt outs. And when I saw this today, I didn't
know how it was going to be, because, as I've
told you, I've said farewell to Pete. Once Pee Alonzo
hired Scott Boris as his agent, I said, Peter Alonso
is going to leave the Mets in a couple of years.
He's lept for one or two at Batch. You hated him.
(17:59):
He's going to leave. He's gonna leave. And then he
hit the home run against the Brewers, which I still
watch probably three or four times a week. Yesterday, driving
into Worlds is that really? What? Oh? Do stop? Plattsburg? Wow,
that's killed Bubby. Oh stop, that's Bob Buker's last game.
That's the last killed Carl. That's the last game he
brought you and Alonso took down you. Yesterday I drove
(18:22):
in I listened to the nineteen of the Mets Brewers game. Uh,
because someone put it on YouTube and it's like eighteen
minutes long. I'd listened to the top of the ninth
Any of the Mets brewers is fantastic. We got to
find our wins where we can. But uh, I mean,
I said goodbye to him because I knew Scott Boris
is gonna take him a free agency, is not going
to re sign. And really, I mean, even though being
that kind of hero, that kind of home run, you know, look,
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arguably the biggest home run in Mets history. I mean
that that kind of it just donated so much. Yeah, well,
but he's got it, so I can't I can't take
it away from him because he's got it. He's still Yeah,
he's still got the datest one that I go back to. Okay,
let's move on. You know, like as much as oh,
you want a guy to stay and be someone that
that comes up from the minders the stage of the team. Yeah, okay,
(19:05):
we'll move on. You could have signed, you could have
signed for seven years, one hundred and fifty eight million
dollars last year, but no, no, no gambling that after
this year he'd be worth more. And now after a
down year, it's like that doesn't matter. I still want
more money. No, here's the thing, when you gamble in
free agency. You don't have a big year, you're going
to make less money. They don't. No One just deletes
that from memory and so oh, we're going back to work.
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Two years ago he had a chance. He could have
signed last year for seven one fifty eight. It's gotta
be a little bit more makes sense now, and it's
not gonna happen, honestly, Okay. If he plays somewhere else,
he's gonna play somewhere else, and and and the Mets
will move on. As as much as it pains me
for a guy with that kind of home run who's
come up and been a Met and been an All
Star five times and has been that good for so long,
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and more home runs in baseball the last six years,
and almost anybody if he goes, he goes like. I mean,
I'd like, I've said my goodbyes, and I'm okay if
it happens, Yeah, I think a lot of it. You
do still test the market plays seven for one fifty
eight got in his head, Hey we can maybe get more.
And guess what, the price of poker keeps going up.
The number of guys that are consistently hitting with big
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power numbers fewer in major League Baseball. He actually hit
two forty two. I mean, come on, yeah, yeah, he
hit two forty two. Forty Comma two as well, he
hit two forty also also said that I just wanted
to have fun with words, but thirty four I was
hurt by his words, and then I suffered an injury.
(20:30):
Thirty four eighty eight thirty one doubles played all one
hundred and sixty two games. Is one thing he can
put up on his off the back of his baseball
card is I will be in the lineup every day.
He played the second game with that doubleheader against the
Braves on the final day of the season they wanted
to get in the playoffs. I rest everybody. Oh no, no,
Alonzo's gonna play. Okay, he's playing both games. Okay. He's
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a man of the people. He brought his lunch pail
every damn night. Uh. But to that end, yeah, you
see what other contracts are, and maybe you decided that
whether it was your own thinking or you're over over
the top work and binders of data from Scott Morris
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that he was able to convince you that hot dog sales,
ice cream inside mini helmets, all of those kind of
things that you contributed a little bit more, and so yeah,
you test the market. You're hoping that Cohen really is
the fanboy that he's projected to be to where it's
funny money, So an extra five million or ten million
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over three years isn't going to gut him, and instead
they stayed firm on whatever their stances. Do I believe
he had a seven year one hundred and fifty seven years. No,
I don't believe he had a seven year deal, but
that's what was reported. I saw it from Sherman. Yeah,
all of that. I don't believe he was ever offered
(21:54):
a seven year deal. I'm something something in the in
the ballpark of seven years, fifty eight million. No, we're
not doing that, okay, I mean I don't think they.
Here's a thing souned. It was, hey, we're thinking seven
hundred and fifty hundred six Yeah, no, okay, all right,
see you next year. Good luck. But you go into that,
that's a pittance for a guy that sees himself and
(22:16):
the market you would think, based on the longevity, based
on the consistency, would see as a superstar. Whether the
set again, they once we start getting into seven to
ten years, we've had these conversations for eleven years. Here,
all right, are you gonna mortgage? The back end is
going to be terrible when that body breaks down, that
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he gets you over the top. Now, And one would
argue based on everything they said, right, they got rid
of the two pitchers, they go off and do their thing.
They have a good year this year, that they were
going to push in harder, and that he hit the
home run that would give him that extra leverage. Yeah, look,
I can't look in the end it didn't pay off.
(22:57):
But I like the guts. Yeah, and I'll and I'll
tell you this, I don't and and knowing the situation,
I don't think the door is closed. But the Mets
signing Jesse Winker today, this is them telling Pete Alonzo
it's now or never. Sure if you don't sign with
us now, we are moving on and they will either
go get Alex Bregman, they'll start signing relievers because now
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that they But if Pete Alonzo is not a met
in the next twenty four to thirty six hours, he's
gonna sit out to late in spring training, sign somewhere
for one year and twenty five million, and and try
to hit free agency again, because that's how it goes
to Jai him. If he became a Dodger, of course
he would you just oh me a Dodger. Now, no,
(23:40):
I did strike me out here. Here's here's how you
get Alonzo out. All right, let me tell you this
is what we're gonna do. You know, money that's gonna be.
It is a lot. Maybe you'll sign for no money.
Maybe just sign for like ten bucks. You're gonna sell
a painting. We'll get Alonzo. Yeah, they're saying he rejected
an alleged three year deal uh earlier in this offseason
for somewhat ninety ish million because they want op after
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every year. It's like, okay, you're not driving the market anymore.
We saw what first basemans are getting in free agency.
You overplayed your hand. You lose, just like in any
of that. You know, you win some negotiations, you lose some.
Scott Boris is losing this one with Pete. Alonzo made
a bad bet on the market. The market is showing
you what it is for first basement and now you're losing.
If he's not a met in the next thirty six hours,
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it's absolutely done. He'll wait beginning a spring training, will
sign someplace else, someplace it's very hit or friendly, where
he'll go for a year to try to get those
numbers back up and at free agency again in another
twelve months. That's how it's going to go. Yes, spoke Track,
that's how I pronounce it. Says the estimated market value
would be a six year, one seventy four. But he's
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not getting it, which clearly he's not getting getting it.
But I can understand where he's looking around the marketplace
and saying, my AAV should be higher. Yeah, based on
what I've done. You could be wrong. Yeah, but your
value is what someone's willing to do, and that's just it.
That's right. You're also sitting here on January now, sixteen.
There is no you got a month before you report.
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So we'll have more baseball coming up a minute. And
if pied A Lonzo does sign, of course we will
bring you that. But or Sasaki, uh yeah, that Sasaki
should be coming soon any day now. I was told
it was as done it as this morning, like a
week ago. Didn't he get vegas. I just can't announce it.
A lot of deferred money I'll right into my pocket.
(25:25):
I mentioned a few minutes ago. You know we're getting
set now now is the best weekend of football. All
the top seeds are playing. We're going to see an
incredible game with the Ravens and the Bills. But I'll
tell you what I was thinking about this a lot
this week. Now you know the Sonic and Knuckles are back.
Now David Montgomery's gonna play for the Lions, and seeing
their big run this year, he got past your current
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seeing their run this year and the amount of attention
that is on cambelling right, which is not just going
for it on fourth down, but making decisions, and that
maybe maybe you don't want to do that here. Maybe
I'm telling you the line season's gonna end with us
talking about what was Dan Campbell thinking? But the flip
side of this, I will tell you, and seeing it
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last weekend in the NFL really brought it home for me.
Is that what the Lions are doing. What one of
their big legacies to the game and Dan Campbell's legacy
to the game that we're seeing a little bit, but
it's just gonna be everywhere next year. Is you are
now regularly going to see teams going for it in
the other team's end of the field on fourth down
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much more than they do now. Right, if it's fourth
in less than a yard, It used to be all right,
maybe we'll go for it here, but boy, want to
get a field goal. Don't want to come away from
here with no points. Right, But now the Lions have
done it. Fourth and three, fourth and four, fourth and seven. Hey,
this is what we do. We go for it on
fourth down. You're starting to see teams go for it
on fourth down a little more often because they see
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the Lions, they see what happens when they succeed. They understand.
It's an offensive league now. It's not like it was
where hey, every point is precious and most games are
twenty to seventeen. It's not that way. Most games are
twenty seven to twenty four, thirty one, twenty eight, eight,
twenty nine, twenty eight. And the lines going for it
on fourth down. You've seen other teams start to loosen
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up going for it on fourth and short. And by
fourth and short, I mean fourth and four or less.
When it's fourth and seven, fourth and eight. You're still
going to see teams kicking field goals, but fourth and
four is going to become the new fourth and inches
when you're talking about being on the other side of
midfield or being close to striking distance. Because the field
goal kicking in the NFL, we were at the highest
level we were at ever about five or seven years ago.
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That's come down the other side of the mountain now
at kickers are much more unreliable. We had the great
era of the kicker. We've gone past it. Like the
air of peak television came and now it's gone. The
air of the kicker came and now it's gone. Teams
are going to see that that is a that's a
reasonable amount of yards to make on fourth down because
with our playmakers, we can throw the football fourth and three,
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fourth and four that is makeable. So that's gonna almost
be I would say next year close to fifty percent
of the time if a team is close in striking
distance and they're faced with a fourth and fourth and
three fourth and four or less, they're gonna go for
it because you watch the Lines do it on National
TV every weekend. If somehow it ends this year when
the Lines winning the Super Bowl and converting a whole
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bunch of fourth downs, that's gonna be their legacy Next year.
It's gonna be fourth and three. Let's go for it.
We can get three yards. We can get three yards.
That happen fourth and half A fourth and half a
yard used to be Ooh, I don't know we're gonna
do this or not.
Speaker 2 (28:29):
I'm not sure.
Speaker 1 (28:29):
I'm really nervous. Let's kick a field goal now to
fourth and inches, run it up and just snap it.
We're gonna get a first that we're not gonna get stopped.
And if you get stopped, okay, it's still such a
big offensive game where you're gonna have enough time to
make up those points. But the gamble will be seen
as worth it on fourth and four and less for
taines because they're gonna think offensively. We have the horses
to get these yards. Other teams don't know how they're
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gonna play us. We get right up to the line
of scrimmage, we call a play, we have a bunch formation,
whatever we want to do. We're gonna put the defense
on their heels and go for it and they're gonna
have to adjust and you're gonna see that next year
in a big way. Now, I'd like you to look
straight in that cam, in that camera right there, Hi
and apologize to Dan Campbell. Why David Montgomery, I know,
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well that goes without Montgomery is healthy's back. Don't know
that he's hasn't played yet. He's practicing practice. We're talking
about practice. He is not talking about a game. Not
a game. Not a game, not a game, not a game.
He is not blamed me once for his injury. By
the way, I don't know that. I do know, I
in quiet shnos. He may have a picture you printed
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out that he's throwing darts at this guy who wanted
me to eat a burger and then I got hurt.
He's throwing Mike Well, I mean full on right. That's
a whole other new trend. But you can never use
the term cambeling again. No, No, there's going for it
on fourth down, going for it on fourth and three.
Then there's going for it on the twelve yard line
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on fourth and eight, which is what are you doing
that you're asking a little bit too much, which is
campbeling right, Oh, fourth era, We're gonna go for right
here on fourth and seven for our own thirty three
yard line. Ooh, I don't know about that, man, I
don't know. Fourth and shortish shortish, which is three four
or less. Yeah, but Dan Campbell gets full of we
go for it on fourth, then all right, day man
(30:15):
Campbell is shooting forty five year old forty five yard
field goal. Shoot a forty five year old kicking. He
decided he didn't want the forty We did not want
Doug Bryan kicking field goals for us. Goff avoided the pressure.
Reynolds was open, didn't catch the ball. You've killed him
all off season under your new NFL. He made the
right call. Now, last week, what did I do to
(30:38):
Kevin O'Connell. I took put a bunch of blame on
him because everybody wanted to kill Sam Donald. How about
you take a field goal in the first quarter, early
second quarter, taking three points. Now, you know what, we're
gonna need a lot of points against life. You know
what you didn't? You didn't You could have played that
game completely differently, and instead, what'd you do? You gacked
away any confidence to pick up a sh he already
(31:00):
your red zone first down touchdown later on in the
game all gone evaporated, and then you got runned over
by your guy Gibbs. Did you say run over? I
damn right, run over? Are you say if you read
during football games like aj Brown, you would have said
run over or ran over? He got runned over his comedy. Hey,
(31:25):
I'm Mike Harmon for Northwestern University. You want to get
run over, go to Northwest. You gotta get run over.
Bye bye book, I'll tell you how to avoid No
time now to find out what's trending in the wide
world of sports. From Monzi Milanios monsie what you got?
Did you get run over?
Speaker 3 (31:40):
The Clippers are getting the The Trailblazers are getting runed over.
Speaker 1 (31:44):
There we go.
Speaker 3 (31:44):
The Trailblazers are getting runed over by the Clippers.
Speaker 1 (31:47):
Just back to back scheduling in the history. At the end,
the Clippers gonna win seventy again.
Speaker 3 (31:53):
No no, no, We're gonna keep it a little closer
this time. But they are of seventy six forty seven
five minutes to go in the third. James Harden seventeen points,
six assists, the Rockets trying to win six in a row.
They are still losing to the Kings and Sacramento, but
it's been a close game the entire time. Sacramento is
up ninety eighty five after three quarters. De Monte Sabonis
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sixteen points, fifteen rebounds, six assists, like it's any other
day for him. The basers are the bass already beat
the Pistons, excuse me, one eleven to one hundred. The
Suns took down the Wizards one thirty to one twenty three.
But the Wizard's covered, so that's good. If you took
the Wizards to cover it was eleven or like eleven
and a half.
Speaker 2 (32:33):
To cover.
Speaker 1 (32:34):
Say it. I'm just saying.
Speaker 3 (32:36):
The Thunder runs over the Cavaliers before thank you to
one fourteen. Shake Kilchis Alexander had forty points and eight
assists in the win. Other NBA news, I'm sure you've heard.
Speaker 1 (32:48):
About this, but it's weird.
Speaker 3 (32:50):
Maverick Carter, Lebron James business manager, has been enlisted as
an advisor by a group of investors seeking to raise
five billion dollars to form in international basketball league that
would serve as a rival to the NBA. The group
would like to form a league consisting of six men's
teams six women's teams that play around the world. YESPN
reports that Lebron James is not involved.
Speaker 1 (33:13):
Sure, sure, he's not.
Speaker 3 (33:15):
In college hoops number twenty Michigan went down to the
wire and then some against Minnesota, and Minnesota wanted in
overtime eighty four eighty one thanks to a logo three
from Dawson Garcia at the Buzzer Temple defeated Number eighteen
Memphis eighty eight to eighty one. Right now in college hoops,
Oregon State beating Number sixteen Gonzaga twenty five to twenty
one with about seven minutes to go in the first half.
(33:38):
And on the ice, we've got the oilers in the
Avalanche still tied at three apiece early in the third period. Lastly, here,
I don't know if you guys heard this story. You
were talking to Jay Glazer about the fires and now
that terrible stuff happening here in la Hall of Fame
Tennis player at Pam Shreiver. Her car was stolen overnight
at a Marina del Rey hotel. She escaped the fires,
(33:59):
that's where she went. Her car contained all of her
major trophies, so five US Open trophies, five French Open plates,
five Wimbledon trophies and one Australian Open trophy that were
in her car that was stolen from a hotel in
Marina del Rey, which is where she fled.
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Well, here I will say this, good luck selling them. Yeah, no,
that's you know what. Here's the one thing I will say. Yeah,
you're likely to get those back sounds go to find
how terrible like just imagine. But back to you guys,
all right, thank you MONSI The Jason Smith Show with
my best friend Mike Carmen Live the Tirec dot Com Studios.
Coming up next, Why are the Raiders potentially closing in
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on the most sought after head coach in this current cycle,
Brandon Staley. We'll tell all right, second most sought after,
We'll tell you why. Coming up next, Jason and Mike
talk about going forward on fourth Down. Fox Sports Radio.
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Speaker 1 (35:06):
And you're probably surprised by the report earlier today Ian
Rapaport the NFL Network Now Ian Rappaport, but uh wow,
I'm just saying. Ian Rappaport says that the Raiders potentially
could be closing in on hiring Ben Johnson to be
their next head coach, and obviously, you know you have
(35:28):
to wait to talk. You can only have interviews that
are over zoom. And of obviously with the lines and
the playoffs, we're in a game prep meeting. Tom Brady
has I'm dressed up in disguise. I'm just like day
of the chuckle, I'm trusted them in disguise. He's asking
him questions about, you know, defensive ends and how you
(35:52):
account for pressure off the edges in you get a
chip a little and he's holding up with it as
Raiders question mark now Ben Jonsons. Ben Johnson for the
last two years has been the hottest name in coaching,
right at the top of everybody's list. The offense he's
put out there at the Troit. But how the hell
is Ben Johnson at the point where it's the Raiders
(36:14):
right like whoa, whoa? This should be like guys that
don't normally get jobs or last chance hotel. The Jets
even said we don't want to talk to him, likely
because Ben Johnson would say forget it. But the reason
Ben Johnson is sort of falling through the cracks right
now and teams are talking to everybody going outside the
box is because the era of the hot coordinator is ending,
(36:38):
and that was the thread for the longest time. Hey,
who should get the next head coaching jobs in the NFL?
Who are the hot offensive and defensive coordinators this year?
What have they done the last couple of years? Hey,
it's time to promote them. Maybe they're great head coaches,
but what have we seen. It's a mixed bag. It's
a mixed bag because is a guy who's a great
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coordinator a great coach. Sometimes there's not to be really
good coaches. Sometimes they don't and it's a real big risk.
Like I don't know if Ben Johnson's gonna be good.
If he could bring his players from Detroit with him,
he'd be great, but you can't. So why That's why
he's probably been linked with the Bears more than any
team because the Bears have really good skill position players
that need that. Now, how does he get down to
(37:23):
the Raiders Because a lot of teams, especially in this cycle,
are looking for the CEO head coach. All of these
op job opportunities and openings are bad. They're all teams
that are starting over or need someone who can be
in charge of the whole program so things don't spiral
out of control and things get embarrassing, right like with
the Jets, or we saw with the Patriots and the Pages,
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and no, we're going to get Mike Rabel, who clearly
has shown I can run an entire program by myself, right,
the Jaguars need somebody to be able to do that.
All the openings that are here, they're all bad. They're
all bad openings. SAS's. There's no team that hey, we're
a little bit away from the playoffs and we're really good.
We just need that great offensive or defensive mind to
get us over the top. No, none of those teams
are like that. So Ben Johnson is sort of not
(38:07):
quite the shiny new toy because teams are looking for
something different than what he wanted. Well, the Bears wanted
a whole thing from Ben Johnson. What's your leadership plan?
I mean, really, this tells you that teams are not
looking for the hot coordinators who can come in and
set a culture and run a program that gets us
back to where we need to be, so we're not
backsliding and we're not making embarrassing headlines all year long.
(38:30):
That's why Ben Johnson has fallen to the Raiders, who
normally would be like, we'll just take whoever's left. Oh,
now we get the hot offensive coordinator. Oh yeah, but
now you see why. Well it becomes some of it
with Brady and his involvement with the Raiders has to
play an effect. Whatever it is on the pie chart,
whether it's building the relationship, fanboying, whatever term you want
(38:51):
to use with it, and the idea of changing direction,
Mark Davis relinquished role, whatever that is, shot on not
going anywhere. Cowboys. You're removed from twelve wins. You got
a roster that's okay, not great, not terrible. It's not
the worst roster in the league. You got some players.
You got to keep guys healthy and move from there
(39:13):
and see what you get out of deck. But so
you're you're tied to a quarterback. Do you necessarily want that?
Do you want to deal with Jerry Jones? Are you
okay with being a puppet? As so many yous. I
don't quite use it the same way, but that's the
way it's generally characterized in our sports media world. So
we'll leave it there. With the Bears, do they have
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a GM like they Ryan Poles is a guy in
name is he actually doing the hiring? Don't know the
leadership thing. They at least listen to everybody on their
exit interviews. They had an intern go back, Hey, what
did all the players say on the way out? Leadership
someone who's actually in charge of a locker room. So yes,
a leadership plan based on every guy that got in
(39:57):
front of a microphone over a six week period. Hell,
go back to week four or five when Comett was
talking about it. Right, it's a consistent theme of we
need the leader of men, so that flows. But for
Ben Johnson, Bobby slowing down in Houston, Right, the offensive
line wasn't great, even though you got great years from
from a great year from Mixon and Nico Collins when
(40:18):
he was healthy. Not the same sexiness to it. Right,
You want guys that are gonna be able to come
in and build and in theory, actually get the assurances
that they're gonna get to build versus yeah, come take
the job. I may have two hands on the edge
of that run ready to pull it out from you
at any time. That's the other part is you want
(40:39):
a guy that's going to build that plan as opposed
to is it a flash in the pan, and can
he only work with these players? Yeah, it's it's it's
a case of if you're if you're so confident in
someone's leadership skills, it's not gonna matter. And for certain
guys it doesn't matter. But hey, here's but we don't
know what he really feels safer with a Mike McCarthy.
(40:59):
We feel some with Mike Vrabel because we've seen them
do it before and succeed, and we think we can
do it here. He's still getting he did. Bears are
talking to him too. I mean really, I mean Ben Johnson,
He's just it's not the trendy thing. We'll have more
on this story and another big story out of the
NFL coming up next. Happy Thursday Night The Jason Smiths
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