January 21, 2025 • 41 mins
Jason and Mike update College Football Playoff National Championship. Jason tells you why Ohio State is the better team. And the real reason Lamar Jackson hasn't made the Super Bowl yet!
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Speaker 1 (00:29):
Hello, Welcome inside, Happy Monday, the Jason Smith Show with
my base friend Mike Harmon. And I know the National Championship.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
Game was over. It was done.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
We were writing the epitaph for Notre Dame. Not so fast, Jaden.
Greathhouse has just caught a touchdown pass for Notre Dame.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
They are set to.
Speaker 4 (00:54):
Go for two. That would make this a two.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
Score game with three minutes to go in the third
third quarter. Ohio State had just continually dominated Notre Dame
since the initial drive of the game. Notre Dame is
in a shovel pass to love make it thirty one
fifteen still a two score game. As much as Ohio
State is dominated, Great House striking just like we've seen
(01:17):
him do in the postseason earlier. This is now suddenly,
thankfully become a game that's not just going to be
a slow and steady march towards crowning Ohio State. He
catches a nice slant pass, breaks a couple of tackles,
a big spin move, and he is off to the
races to help make this a game. Still three minutes
to go in the third quarter.
Speaker 4 (01:37):
Turned and spun and it was shocked there was nobody
there to drill him. Man, it had been the issue
for Notre Dame every down after that first drive, that
eighteen play drive that started things like, well, all right,
we're throwing haymakers right away, Ohio State. March is right back.
And then Notre Dame could not get a stop on
a third down. All right, first down, yeah, great, cool,
(01:59):
second second, cool, all right, third down conversion yeah yeah.
And then they finally stopped him on a big third
down because well, the wide receiver was wide open and
Howard missed him and they had to settle for a field.
Go like, wow, yeah, will.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
Howard's will Howard's having a great night tonight. Just think
of the night Kyle McCord would be having if we'll oh.
Speaker 4 (02:18):
Man, Yeah, you guys were the ones that coaxed the
greatness out of him.
Speaker 3 (02:23):
Yeah, I mean, look, just wait till Kyle McCord goes
number one overall.
Speaker 4 (02:26):
He was even.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
It's his fault we lost to Michigan. Look, so thirty
one fifteen, still a ways to go for Notre Dame.
But they do get back in it. And sometimes games
are difficult to break down. Sometimes they're nuanced, sometimes they
are Hey, listen, there's more than what we just saw.
But this game so far has been pretty simple. Uh,
(02:50):
Ohio State is the better team. They have the better roster,
They're more talented, they are the better team. Notre Dame
is a good team. They're a really good team. They're
not at Ohio State's level. This is why we talk
about one hundred million dollar roster that Ohios I see
twenty million dollar roster. I'm like, don't you think they
only spend twenty million dollars on this team? Say they
spend twenty million dollars the quarterback position?
Speaker 3 (03:10):
Just stop.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
What we are seeing, what we have seen so far
is just Ohio State is better and they're putting it
out there and in a weird way. And I know
it's gonna say weird when I say this Notre Dame's
touchdown on the opening drive might have been a great
thing for Ohio State because what did I say, My
only concern for oheis iiO State was coming into this
game that they that the Michigan Ohio State team would
(03:32):
show up, where Howard makes a couple of mistakes and
Chip Kelly and Ryan Day get really conservative and you
turn that game into a toss.
Speaker 3 (03:40):
We're not going to throw the ball.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
We're going to try to control clock and and and
try to just win this game and just outlast them.
That's the only thing I could have seen them losing
to Notre Dame for. And the fact that Notre Dame
goes down the field and Riley Leonard, who I'm sure
was ready for an ice bath after that first drive,
he goes in for that touchdown. Ohio State knows we
need to be aggressive from here on. It we're trailing,
(04:02):
it was a ten minute drive, We're finally getting the football.
Let's go, let's go, let's go three touchdowns to end
the first half. That was it was.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
It was.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
I don't know that I'm saying it was the best
thing for Ohis State, but this certainly put the possibility
of Hey, we're going to ease our way in this
and we're not going to make mistakes. Our talent's gonna
overwhelm Eventually. It took that off the table because I've
seen Ryan Day and Chip Kelly do that right Michigan
a couple other games.
Speaker 3 (04:25):
I've seen them say, hey, we're going to back.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
Off, throw in the football because Howard's throwing a couple
of picks, or for whatever reason, Hey, we really don't
don't want to give the game to the other team.
And that's what happened against Michigan. They got scared and
they got really conservative, and I saw that happening tonight.
Notre name is really good defense there back seven. We've
talked about them, but that first touchdown took that off
the table.
Speaker 3 (04:45):
Took off the table.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
Hey, well, let's let's let's try to ease things here,
let's run the football, let's established linscreamge.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
No, this was man.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
We got a answer that was that was ten minutes
down our throat. That was Elway's version of the draw
all the way.
Speaker 3 (04:56):
Down our throat.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
So that really played into Ohio State and took that
off the table. And Ohio State has just been terrific
since then Notre Dame absolutely needed that touchdown to have
any kind make the fourth quarter, make anything look any
good here in the next week.
Speaker 5 (05:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (05:10):
The hope though, was on that first, you know, me
selfishly looking at it, not only because I picked Notre
Dame like potentially a fool? Here would you're upset by
a perfect weekend? Otherwise I'm four and oh. This should
be a terrible way to be terrible. I was perfect
this week.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
I was.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
If you listened to me, you went undefeated in NFL
picks this weekend. Wait a second, as long as well
hang on, the Textans are playing, you went undefeated if
you listen to me, wait for it. Wait, textans are
wait for it. Just would you just wait for it? Frostburg,
Just wait? The Chargers aren't playing either. Okay, you would
have been undefeated. If you listen to me this weekend
(05:48):
football picks, you would have gone four and oh.
Speaker 3 (05:51):
All you had to do was listen to me.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
Yeah, so I just listen and then just go the
opposite way of what I just picked. The undefeated defeated undefeated.
To just listen to me. You did it because you
went opposite me. That's the only reason you did why.
Speaker 4 (06:09):
What you do?
Speaker 3 (06:10):
That's what you do?
Speaker 1 (06:10):
That?
Speaker 3 (06:12):
Yes you did?
Speaker 1 (06:13):
You are you hate? You hate my family, my wife's
family in Detroit. All right, you hate dan Quinn, but
somehow you picked him anyway, So I know that was
not what you want to do.
Speaker 4 (06:21):
What do you things about dan Quinn? All the time?
Gave up one hundred and fifty eight Jordan?
Speaker 3 (06:28):
Here he is in the NFC.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
Men, you hate you hate him, you hate my family,
and you still win again.
Speaker 3 (06:34):
So now I know you.
Speaker 4 (06:35):
I did tell you we're going to come back on
the Lions. For all the trick plays uh and chicanery
through the year.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
You just just went the opposite. It just went the No,
it's not true. I just I was just right. That
would be no, you went the opposite way. You need
to give reasons when when you said I'm going out.
Why one of those shows that you said, here's a
who do you like?
Speaker 5 (06:55):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (06:56):
I like the other team?
Speaker 4 (06:57):
Why? I don't know?
Speaker 3 (06:58):
Crazy?
Speaker 4 (06:59):
Look, I leave the Homers where they might do that
just randomly name a team.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
Now you see the thing is I always thought that
that would be a great gambling strategy.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
Now hear me out on this, Okay?
Speaker 1 (07:14):
Sure is that if you're a bet and lots of
we're all bad gamblers, right, if you're a bad gambler. Now,
I've had a great hot year picking football game. This
was a screeching halt. But like, if you're a bad
gambler and you lose money, can you be a great
gambler by just saying, Okay, this is what I think
for this game, and then just go the opposite, Just
bet the opposite.
Speaker 4 (07:33):
Would you win? You know what would you win? You
might need would you would win? If that has a
small steak and have that over the course of next season.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
I'm just saying, like, you know, here's what I think.
And instead of that, I'm going the other way. Like
when I when I lock in, what do you want?
I like this game? Why because I think this is
gonna happen, and this is gonna happen. This is gonna happen. Okay, great,
are you ready to make your bet?
Speaker 3 (07:52):
Yeah? Give me the other team and that's my bet. Wait?
Speaker 1 (07:55):
Why because I'm going opposite of what I did. I
wonder if that's if that can be a sickcessful gambling strategy.
Speaker 4 (08:01):
But what's curious, right? You know? On top of that,
it's like I had a pretty good year picking against
the spread. I can show the documentation off it, but
I had no money on the line because it was
for giggles, right, just all right, here's the line, just
like the the Houston Kansas City game. Well, if you
lost on it, then you didn't get the right line
because that line was sitting at eight and a half
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all week long. And then people are like, well it's
nine and a half. It's like if you got it, wait,
it was nine and a half.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
But but that it's always what what did it go
off at? Right, that's always went off at nine and
a half. Off, but you might have gotten it early.
Speaker 4 (08:35):
Yeah, but but what are you going about talking about
the game? Hey, this is either.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
A really devastating win for you or it's an incredibly
devastating loss, or it's an incredible win, or it might
not be either. So you have to pick something, you know.
You can't just say hey, either it's well.
Speaker 4 (08:49):
And you can't really not the specificity of it anyway,
because they still quote frown on that, do I. Meanwhile,
I'll go which one of these? Meanwhile, go go to
this website right now, make your picks on the next thing.
But the curiosity in this game was would the man
demand coverage for Notre Dame be be enough? Right with
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all the wide receivers, with all of the options that
you have. For Ohio State, would they have enough in
the secondary? We've lauded the style they've played with all
year long for Notre Dame, and the answers no, because
there seems to always be an extra man. So like
they haven't been able to get pressure up front on
Howard clean pocket all day long without bringing an extra guy,
(09:32):
And there it's just becomes the Swiss Army Knight and
it becomes the right pick your poison? Which guy is
Howard gonna single out on a given throw? So yeah,
it's it's a game in theory. We'll see if we
can get a good fourth quarter here live Live betting
got up to twenty four for twenty four and a half.
Speaker 3 (09:51):
Really down.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
Yeah, so now you're feeling you're feeling okay, You might
feel a little bit better if you got in there. Yeah,
where do we sit right now? First down for Ohio State.
They were just faced a third and short. They were
able to convert, so they have the football up thirty
one fifteen over Notre Dame. A minute and a half
to go in the third quarter. Look, if Notre Dame
is going to win this game, it needs to be
(10:14):
goose eggs on the scoreboard for Ohio State the rest
of the way. Really, I mean really, Ohio State is
one score of any kind away from clinching this game,
all right, I mean it could be a safety, could be.
Speaker 3 (10:25):
A rouge, a ruge, could be a rouge.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
Right, and kick it off the net comes down, I said,
you might have to explain to people what a rouge rouges.
The Canadian football is still going, I mean, if you're
a but I don't But I don't know how much
people are really in tune with the rules of Canadian football.
Speaker 4 (10:40):
People don't know the rules of most of the pro
games they're watching from the United States.
Speaker 3 (10:45):
When do we go for two points? Let me look
that up. Oh really, that didn't go. No, it's the.
Speaker 4 (10:49):
Blackjack card you buy for ninety nine cents in Vegas.
I mean, you don't figure this out.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
So this is I mean, they need and Ohio State's
got the football right now at their own forty yard line.
It needs to be goose eggs. If it's goose eggs,
the rest of the way. Yeah, Well, any score thirty
four to fifteen, that'll do it. Because you're right now,
you're talking about Notre Dame getting two scores and two
point conversions and shutting Ohio State out, and that's a
really difficult thing. And as I say this, Notre Dame
(11:18):
just commits a really bad penalty. Marcus Freeman is ready
to throw up on the sideline. It was a second
and long for Ohio State. Ohio State throws a screen
pass and it doesn't go and wow, one of the
defensive linemen takes two full steps and pushes Will Howard,
who then plays dead.
Speaker 3 (11:39):
Well Will Howard.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
Okay, Unlike Patrick Mahomes, Will Howard was actually pushed and
fell to the ground. It was an awful penalty. It
was two full steps. Open takes two full steps before
he pushes Will Howard, who goes to the ground. It
is a fifteen yard penalty and now a first down
for Ohio State on the Notre Dame forty seven yard line,
like they're they're one play away from getting the football back.
(12:04):
I get your and that's the thing is I get
your frustrated. I understand. I understand what's been going on
all game, and you're losing it.
Speaker 3 (12:10):
Boy.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
You just want to put a hint on a guy that's,
you know, one pass away from having a perfect day.
I get it, I get it. But when you're two
steps away, you can't. You can't go after him. I mean,
you didn't even get a good hit so much daylight
on him, but it was a shove.
Speaker 4 (12:24):
It's like, it's not even a good hint. Yeah, but
you can't do it. You can't. No, it's it's a
terrible it's a terrible decision. I'm just saying, like the
frustration that you talk about the greatness that we've seen
from this Ohio State offensive line taking care of business
and running the line of scrimmage has been there is
all night long. Uh chunk yardage on run plays and
obviously Howard working from a clean pocket. I get it.
(12:47):
You're frustrated that you haven't gotten there. Guess what, you
didn't get there either, because you didn't. It's not like
you were one step away and then you drilled him.
But if you're gonna take the fifteen yard penalty, you
might as well go, you know, get get to the
rib cage at that instead of a half ass shove
to where he goes to the ground. But it's plain
as day.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
I always think, I see what you did right there,
plain as days he did. I mean, I always think, well, eventually,
at some point defensive players are gonna understand, Hey, can't
can't go.
Speaker 3 (13:15):
After the quod.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
Yeah, yeah, no, no, no, it's still gonna happen, still
gonna happen, Still gonna go after It's still gonna do it.
Speaker 3 (13:20):
I know you can't, still gonna do.
Speaker 4 (13:21):
It, but I only touched him, dupe.
Speaker 3 (13:23):
Still good enough, Still gonna do it.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
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So coming up next, we'll have more on Ohio State
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Speaker 3 (14:19):
Are they putting the ball away?
Speaker 1 (14:21):
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second away from the National Championship game being over thirty
one to fifteen. Ohio State had the lead and they
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were driving. They had a bad penalty on Notre Dame
where Notre Dame took to Obi took two extra steps
and hit Will Howard became a first down for Ohio State.
Ohio State throws a screen pass that goes for a
long gain right the Egbuka goes for twenty four yards
and falling down like he's falling down it is. It
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is not even a half, like maybe a quarter of
a second away from the game being over because he's
going down around the twenty yard line. Even if Ohio
State doesn't get a touch on the case a field
goal and that's it. But the ball gets punched out
just before his knee hits the ground and Ohio State
gives up the football and Notre Dame gets it again
another quarter second away. It was from the game being over,
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and now Notre Dame is still sort of alive. They
are driving as well. That they're faced with a fourth
down right now, a fourth and five from just inside
the thirty five yard line of Ohio State. You could
say this is a rubber hit the road play and
a game saving play and Riley Leonard's able to complete
it for a first down. So here's Notre Dame great
(17:35):
house with a big gram again went in doubt, go
to Greathouse.
Speaker 3 (17:39):
He has had a.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
Big game, He's had a big second half. So now
Notre Dame has the ball inside the Ohio State twenty
yard line down two. Scores out that he touched down
two touchdown two. But wow, I mean you're talking about
just hold onto the football and the game is likely over,
and instead it's punched out and Notre Dame has life.
Speaker 4 (17:58):
K me getting ready to hit the ground to punch
out another to the long highlight reel of why Peanut
Tillman should be going to the Hall of Fame Former
Bear and now federal agent Peanut Tillman.
Speaker 1 (18:11):
Uh and do you think Peanut Tillman when he when
he when he grabs a guy and when they when
when he grabs god Red like he does the Peanut.
Speaker 4 (18:17):
Poet, he does like whatever's yeah whatever in.
Speaker 1 (18:19):
Riminal is running away and he grabs him with the
left hand on the left shoulder, and the criminal turns
and then he punches out whatever he says. It's a
big swipe either when he's stolen his phone, any kind
of weapon.
Speaker 4 (18:29):
I mean, it's gone like.
Speaker 1 (18:30):
A big briefcase with the nuclear codes in it or something,
whatever it is, because you know it could be the
nuclear football, you know, Peanut tillmany you never can he
punches out the nuclear football.
Speaker 3 (18:39):
Oh my goodness, it's loose. The nuclear football is loose.
Speaker 4 (18:43):
Peanut Talban's falling on it. First, a striped shirt comes
running out. I like this cut and print. There's one
for the next movie. But yeah, moving the ball well
once again, because if nothing else, you you're gonna end
up with a field goal at a minimum, taking care
of the football, of course, but you're also gonna run
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another three minutes off the clock. Right. That's the other
part is that you you shorten the fourth quarter along
the way here and now we're looking at a big possession.
Still a lot that needs to happen, but you're staying
there's still a chance, and this game's not over because
when we were getting ready to come on air, let's
let's be honest about it. Like national title game Ohio State,
(19:24):
they're loaded, it's done not so fast.
Speaker 1 (19:28):
I really a quarter of a second from being over
because you see he's head and clearly isn't it. But
but his knee is maybe I don't know what, not
even ten inches from the ground. Not even you can
see that it's off the ground. Controversy there, We tell
you the truth with all all the calls here right,
the Notre Dame, the bad penalty was a penalty to
extend the Ohio State drive. His knee is no more
(19:48):
than tended because he's actually falling when he's when he's
going trying to go like he's actually falling down.
Speaker 3 (19:54):
So it's not like he you know, he's hitting.
Speaker 1 (19:56):
He's like he's and he's he's that close to the
ground and the ball is punched out and now here's
Notre Dame second and goal inside the ten yard line,
trying to cut this Ohio State lead to one score.
Speaker 4 (20:08):
All of a sudden, all the Ryan Day haters have
gotten back on their computers and they're amending the letters
that they'd already been writing.
Speaker 3 (20:15):
They're still gonna be upset.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
If somehow Ohio State wins a national championship, you're gonna
get maybe not half, maybe a good one out of
every three Ohio State fans. It's gonna be three Ohigh
State fans a lie and say, hey, how do you
feel about this? First Ohio State fans gonna say, won
the national title, Man, it's awesome. Second one's gonna say,
we won the national champion it's awesome. Third one's gonna say, eh,
we lost to Michigan. That's gonna be at least that's
(20:40):
good fan base. That's gonna be that. But we lost
the Michigan that's great. But we lost the mission.
Speaker 4 (20:44):
So that's that's the side of a healthy fan base
that you still have to have. Everything else could go
co write, but it didn't go one hundred percent, right,
so you gotta be salty about it.
Speaker 3 (20:53):
That's good.
Speaker 1 (20:54):
So we'll have more from this game coming up in
a bit again Notre Dame knocking on the door. Steve
de Seger will have more and what's trending coming up
in a couple of minutes. But look, coming off this
huge week in the NFL, so many big storylines to
get to, none bigger because we called it. I told
your Friday. The storyline I'm looking forward to the most
is that the loser of the game between Josh Allen
and Lamar Jackson is going to be Oh they're overrated.
Speaker 3 (21:17):
They stink.
Speaker 1 (21:17):
Oh they stare no matter what happens. Oh, they stink,
they stink, they stink. Okay, so now obviously the Ravens lose.
Mark Andrews drops two point conversion that would have sent
the game to overtime, and now all that's out there,
all the boo birds are out there for Lamar Jackson.
Two turnovers in the first half, Marta, Yeah, it wasn't
Lamar Jackson's best game, but still faced with the football,
(21:40):
you know, ninety yards from from the end zone, he
drives them down for a touchdown, They score, and it's
a two point conversion away from tying the game. Now,
I want to say two things about this. He did
what he was supposed to do. I got him down there,
scored a touchdown through the past to Mark Andrews. Right,
And if you want to be mad at Lamar Jackson, Well, oh,
(22:03):
go to have the touchdown?
Speaker 3 (22:03):
Would have the touchdown.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
Let me just say this first of all, if that happened, right,
even if Mark Andrews catches that ball, Josh Allen's got
ninety seconds and two timeouts. Sure, how do you think
that's gonna end? All I can say, do you think
that's well?
Speaker 4 (22:15):
And I put this on Twitter because let me help
you here is that your team had given up six
points in the second half, and you can say, well,
they gave up twenty one in the first half. Yeah,
seven of them came after twenty a twenty four yard
drive caused by a Lamar Jackson bumble.
Speaker 3 (22:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (22:31):
Okay, So the assumption, what would you rather have? Tie
ball game? And this guy's got to go drive them
into where bask can kick a field going. Yeah, he's
got a big leg.
Speaker 3 (22:41):
Yeah, but is.
Speaker 4 (22:42):
It greater than Hey, we have to convert an on
side kick?
Speaker 3 (22:47):
What is it?
Speaker 4 (22:47):
Three three point eight percent? And then we've got to
do it, and then I've got to trust Justin Tucker.
Speaker 3 (22:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (22:55):
No, so Mark Andrews, everybody trying to absolve him. No, No, well,
I'm which is why he doesn't talk to anybody. Lost
the game because that butt no, no, no, but we
catch it.
Speaker 2 (23:04):
No.
Speaker 1 (23:04):
But but if he does catch it, it's Josh Allen
ninety And I've seen that movie so many.
Speaker 4 (23:09):
Times and nobody's a bigger Josh Allen supporter than I am.
But that's been used the last twenty four hours quite
a bit to try to Oh. I mean, we like
Mark Andrews, great player, good guy from all accounts, one
of the shining examples of all that's right with our
sporting world. It's his fall.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
No, it's obviously you should have got he had the fumbles,
one to all those. But what I'm saying is that
it's not like if he catches that ball, they win
the game. Right, if he catches that ball, at best,
you're going to overtime. Sure, now you went from having
a chance to keep playing to losing. But it's not
like we went from winning to losing. You went from Okay,
now we don't have the football, we're giving it back
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to them.
Speaker 3 (23:50):
And the best.
Speaker 1 (23:50):
Quarterback outside of the guy on our sideline is has
but you at least have yards and whereby you.
Speaker 4 (23:56):
Don't have one. But it's because you have one time
out and they can heal the ball out.
Speaker 3 (24:00):
But it wasn't a win or lose. It wasn't it
wasn't a we win or we lose.
Speaker 4 (24:05):
It's well, I mean.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
Time we have a chance to keep going right that
that's where we at least get to play some more
meaningful football.
Speaker 4 (24:10):
Yeah, as opposed to, Hey, look there's josh Yaher kneeling down.
Speaker 1 (24:13):
But this is something you haven't heard all day about
Lamar Jackson, and it's it's it's the truth. When it
comes to how you view him as a quarterback. Is
he great? Absolutely? Is he a Hall of Famer? Absolutely?
Why can't he get over the hump? Why can't Lamar
Jackson get to the super Bowl? I'll tell you because
when you're not the best team in your conference, it
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is hard to get to the super Bowl. Look at
the AFC since Lamar Jackson's come into the league, right,
We've had the end of the Patriots dynasty, the Chiefs
dynasty one time. And since Lamar's come into the league,
has there been a team other than the Chiefs or
the Patriots, who were the two best teams in the
conference for the last twenty years make it to the
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Super Bowl. When the Bengals won in Burrowhead a couple.
This is not just me being able to say Burrowhead.
You want to go back to the beginning of the
two thousands, right, you had the Patriots dynasty, and then
you went from the Patriots being the best team for
the better part of twenty years, and then the Chiefs
took over and they've been to four Super Bowls since
the Patriots stopped going. So you're talking about the two
best teams in the conference are taking up three quarters
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to four fifths of all Super Bowl appearances. And when
Lamar's been in the league one year, the best team
in the AFC didn't make it right because the Chiefs
were still better than the Bengals. Bengals were hot Borough
wins the game. Mc fearsome makes the fifty yarder. But
when you're not on the best team, it's hard. And
a game like yesterday where Lamar Jackson turns the ball
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over twice in the fridge hasn't done that in what
five years? When he doesn't play an A plus level,
you're not gonna win because the rest of your team
is not good enough. Whereas for the Patriots, Hey Brady
could have a pedestrian game and guess what the Patrio
find a way to win because their defense is really good,
they'd run the football.
Speaker 3 (26:00):
Oh well, same thing from the Chiefs.
Speaker 1 (26:01):
Hey, Mahomes might not have the best game, but hey,
they're gonna be clutching the fourth quarter.
Speaker 3 (26:05):
The defense is gonna make plays. You couldn't trust the
Ravens defense to make plays.
Speaker 1 (26:09):
The offense is not you know, doesn't have people that
can really pick it up. If Lamar Jackson doesn't play well,
if you're not on the best team in the conference,
it is hard. It's hard. So I'm not making an
excuse for him. I'm just saying, look at the reality,
right since he's come into the league one time, a
team that wasn't the best in the conference made it
because the Patriots were the best team when he came
into the league. Super Bowl, super Bowl, Brady leaves the
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air of the Patriots over. But there's Mahomes, Mahomes, Mahomes, Mahomes, Mahomes,
the Chiefs with then the best team. The Ravens have
never been the best team in the AFC. Never, And
when you're not, look how hard it is to get
to the super Bowl. And so this is why Lamar
has not been there.
Speaker 3 (26:44):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (26:45):
Has he had really good playoff games, yeah? Has he
had okay playoff games?
Speaker 3 (26:49):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (26:50):
But the bottom line is, even when he doesn't have
an A plus game, you're not gonna win because your
team is not that good. That's why Lamar Jackson hasn't
gotten the Super Bowl.
Speaker 4 (27:00):
Well. Taking the ball out of Derek Henry's hand seems
pretty curious and not giving him an opportunity to continue
to sledge hammer in frigid temperatures and to make things
a little easier a little more Lamar Jackson design runs.
He carried the ball six times in that game. It's
much like last year. We questioned a lot of the
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play calling and decision making by the Baltimore offense and
coordinator and they got fired because they didn't run the
ball in the second half of that game. In Baltimore radio,
I was telling you earlier, I checked in with one
of my guys. I go, hey, what's the biggest thing? Goes, well,
Harbass sucks. Lamar can't get over. I go how far
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before he actually got to Andrew? He goes, you know,
if folks just kind of pushed that off to the side,
it was everything else and what we couldn't do.
Speaker 1 (27:50):
So.
Speaker 4 (27:50):
The question for John Harbaugh is does he deserve the
same treatment as Mike Tomlin at this point in terms
of winning a big one. But we'll put that aside
for a moment. Yeah, Look, you had an opportunity to
go and win this game, right. You gave up a
couple of bad turnovers early, the interception whatever the miscommunication was,
the air mailing it that he did, and the fumble
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is just a terrible play on a million levels to
set up a short field. But all in you still
had the puncher's chance and your defense did its job
against Josh Allen. Josh Allen did not look like a
superhero yesterday. Right, one hundred and twenty seven passing yards,
he finishes just twenty rushing yards. But he's a bulldozer
(28:35):
in the red zone. So you're able to do that.
I still question that third down call and then kicking
the field goal, but that and to even open the door,
but that's a whole other discussion for another time. With
Lamar Jackson, you're playing at a superman level. I think
you've made the argument before talking about the a list
games that you would get all season long from a
Peyton Manning or a Drew Brees, and then when things
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get ratcheted up, the rest of your squad's got to
come with you, and they're certainly there. Jay Flowers is
in there, excuses, reasons whatever when we talk about it,
because he was on even all year long, so it
wasn't like he was a nine catch a game guy
that suddenly isn't there. But the Lamar Jackson, Yeah, the
margin for error was not there against his Buffalo squad
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on the road. And folks can do whatever they want
about the Chiefs, whine about the Chiefs, however you want
just win.
Speaker 1 (29:27):
Exit out about a Fresco exit, swollen Dome, The Jason
Smith Show with my best friend Mike Carmen, something different.
But when you understand always never been on the best team,
and it's really hard and when you're not the best
team to get there. Because you're saying, these are two
dynasties that were taught. We went from the Patriots dynasty
to the Chiefs dynasty. Already, you know that that opportunities
to go, we're going to be limits once every couple
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of year, three four years, if you're lucky, if you're lucky.
Speaker 4 (29:52):
Yeah, I'd also saw the lot of comparisons to the
well here we're banning and hear whatever, like you're not guaranteed.
You know you brought up the car. Your guy, Joe Burrow,
I always want to make him Carson Palmer for some reason.
Joe Burrow and all those folks that thought it was
gonna be the long run of Hail to the Bengals. Yeah,
awful hard. Isn't it awful hard to get back? That
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looks like a blip on the radar where we're sitting
right now. Why because you're in the same damn division
as Lamar Hadson and that Pittsburgh team that's just good
enough to be vexing.
Speaker 1 (30:24):
Exit out about a Fresca exit swollen Dome. The Jason
Smith Show with Mike Carmon Live from the Tirec dot
Com Studios. So a lot more NFL on the way,
big weekend to get to, but first special delivery. Steve
de Segers tell us what's trending.
Speaker 4 (30:38):
People say he is the Ryan Day of Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 3 (30:42):
He can do a lot of great things, but one
tiny thing goes wrong and everybody hates him. Yeah. I've
just been yelling at Lou Holtz for no reason.
Speaker 4 (30:50):
That's why It's not a bad way to pass time though.
Speaker 5 (30:54):
By the way, they are a cable doing Louholds impersonations
on the sideline during the game.
Speaker 3 (30:58):
That's how lopsided this thing.
Speaker 5 (31:00):
National Championship game in college football going on in Atlanta.
Ohio State led thirty one to seven in the third quarter,
scoring points on their first five drives.
Speaker 4 (31:09):
Thirty one to fifteen.
Speaker 5 (31:11):
Is now the lead with under six and a half
minutes left in the fourth quarter. The buck guys on
the opening play of the fourth did fumble long drive
for Notre Dame to get a first and goal at
the eight. They settled for a short field goal attempt, no.
Speaker 3 (31:25):
Good off the upright.
Speaker 5 (31:27):
Ohio State has just punted six to twenty five left
in the national title game. Buckeye's up thirty one to fifteen.
Quinch On Judkins three total touchdowns for Ohio State, nine
kerries ninety six yards. The Chicago Bears new head coach
is Ben Johnson, who is Detroit's offensive coordinator. The past
three years, the Lions were the league's top scoring offense.
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Former Saints head coach Dennis Allen is due to be
a candidate to be his defensive coordinator. The Colts new
defensive coordinator is lou Anarumo, ex of the Bengals. Indies
defense was ranked twenty ninth this past year's new special
teams coordinator is John Fossil from Dallas to the NBA.
Charlotte beat Dallas today one ten, one oh five despite
thirty three points from Kyrie Irving. The Lake Game's about
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to start with the Clippers hosting a Bulls team that's
lost five in a row and the Pelicans, with thirty
seconds left in overtime, lead Utah one twenty one one nineteen.
Utah was up twenty to three after less than five
minutes in this game, led by twenty five later might
be losing it overtime, and Zion Williamson of the Pelicans.
Speaker 3 (32:31):
Is out due to illness.
Speaker 5 (32:33):
In college hoops, Georgetown won at Villanova on a last
second layup sixty four sixty three easy wins in college
basketball in New Jersey today as number one UCLA beat
up Baylor, number seven Texas all over number eight Maryland.
NHL Saint Louis in a shootout wins at Vegas five
to four, and the Blue Jays are signing outfielder Anthony
(32:53):
Son tender back to you.
Speaker 3 (32:55):
Thank you, Steve O.
Speaker 1 (32:56):
The Jason Smithson with Mike Carman Live Thetirack dot Com Studios.
Speaker 3 (33:00):
Since we last left you.
Speaker 1 (33:01):
In this game, Notre Dame driving, they were faced with
a fourth and long. They try a field goal to
cut the lead to thirty one to eighteen. Make it
a still a two score game, but a touchdown two
point in a field goal, except in true Chicago Bears fashion,
it dooinks off the left upright. Ohio State takes over
kills some clock. Now Notre Dame has the football back
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with about five and a half left to go, down
by two touchdowns and two to two point conversions. We'll
have more on this game coming up, and also straight ahead, Hey,
the guy we thought who was the best head coaching
candidate and all of the NFL got a job of
the team we thought he was going to be to
get the job with?
Speaker 3 (33:40):
Is it the right move he That's next Jason and
Mike Fox.
Speaker 2 (33:45):
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Speaker 3 (33:54):
Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 1 (33:57):
Sorry, I'm watching the game, Jason, I should is watching
the Something I've never I've never said before Alex Tischer
is watching the.
Speaker 3 (34:04):
Game, Jason, isn't it weird that I'm actually here for
the game?
Speaker 4 (34:06):
It is missing the first Yeah, first one in a
long long time. Yeah, I mean just watch him, that's why. Yeah,
he forgot the game. Usually hosts a party. Yeah, something
must have fallen through this year.
Speaker 1 (34:16):
But he's watching the game. Why is he watching the game? Well,
we'll get to Ben Johnson and the Bears coming up. However, Hey, hey,
we got a game here, which makes Marcus Freeman's decision
to kick a field goal a few minutes ago really
not great. But no, tre Dame gets a bit look
down to down two scores. You need a touchdown and
two two point conversions to tie this game.
Speaker 3 (34:39):
What do you do?
Speaker 1 (34:39):
If you're Riddy Leonard, I'm gonna throw it to Jaden
Greathhouse who makes another big catch in the end zone.
Forget about oh, Rodney Leonard's improving his draft stock and
oh you know, yeah, Will Howard's approving his raft. No, dude,
but bleeping Jaden Greathhouse man come on five for one eleven,
two touchdowns. He's been great in the playoff, and they
run a trick play for the two point conversion. They
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run a little bit of a flip wide receiver option
pass all alone in the back of the end zone
for the two point conversion, and Notre Dame now trails
buy a touchdown.
Speaker 3 (35:13):
It is thirty one twenty three.
Speaker 1 (35:15):
They have all three timeouts left, four to ten to
go in the fourth quarter.
Speaker 3 (35:20):
And again, I'm gonna go back to what I said
a few minutes ago.
Speaker 1 (35:23):
This game was a fraction of a second away from
being over, but Notre Dame forces a fumble on a
long pass. It was gonna give Ohio State the ball
deep in Notre Dame territory, up sixteen, and from that
play on, Notre Dame has had life and now they're
down by eight. Now, to get back to the conversation,
we had a few minutes ago, down thirty one to sixteen,
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Marcus Freeman and Notre Dame face with a fourth and
goal from the Ohio State nine yard line, and he
elects to kick.
Speaker 3 (35:52):
A field goal.
Speaker 1 (35:54):
Thirty one fifteen is the score and the electioncfield that
would turn it into a thirteen point game, which really
you sit back and go what because it's still a
two touch your touchdown game? Yeah, And you still, no
matter what, you still need to a touchdown at two
and two field.
Speaker 2 (36:11):
It's a mess.
Speaker 1 (36:12):
Now you don't need two touchdowns and two two point conversions,
but you still need two touchdowns. You still need to
get up and down the field. Stop the up and
down field twice. I don't understand the philosophy behind that.
Especially it's not fourth and third. ID don't care. If
it's fourth in a mile, you kind of have to
go for it.
Speaker 4 (36:27):
You're at the eight yard line.
Speaker 1 (36:28):
Yeah, it's fourth and goal from the nine. How do
you and I get that? You had three plays, it
didn't get anywhere, but uh, you need It's midway through
the fourth quarter of the National Championship game. What do
you think is gonna have you kick a field goal?
Speaker 3 (36:40):
Okay?
Speaker 4 (36:40):
Great?
Speaker 1 (36:40):
Oh I say it's gonna say, oh, you just took
five minutes off the clock up for for a field goal.
Oh awesome, like Marcus Freeman again, clock management.
Speaker 3 (36:49):
I do the class every year. It's twenty grand.
Speaker 1 (36:51):
Now it's gonna be twenty five grand a coach, because
you know it's a buyer's market. Twenty five grand a
coach come out to understand when to go for two,
when to kick a field goal to not when to
call time out? When to not's we're branching out now
with my end of season weekend that coaches can come
and attend, and I teach you all about how to
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manage the clock in the final four or five minutes
of the game.
Speaker 4 (37:14):
Yeah, it's a question that still needs to be asked.
I mean, they because they get stuck because he dooints
the field goal. Now they ended up forcing an Ohio
State punt. But three minutes elapsed off the clock. So
you got the ball back with about six minutes left,
six play, eighty yard drive, make good on it, right,
plus two point conversion. But that's three minutes you're not
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getting back talking about field position, et cetera. And now
you're still at an eight point game. Now we got
three seventeen Howard with a big run for a first down,
so we'll see how the defense holds up. But yeah,
as he ran out there, I did everything I could.
I even shut my microphone off to make sure I
didn't audibly curse on air as he trotted the kicker
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out there, because it made absolutely no sense.
Speaker 3 (38:01):
No, I don't know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (38:02):
If it was a way to cut it if it
was a sixteen point game and you try to cut
it to thirteen, which is what's going through my head
and the whole time.
Speaker 4 (38:09):
Oh, kick it on it's thirteen to ten.
Speaker 1 (38:11):
If it's sixteen to thirteen, Uh no.
Speaker 3 (38:15):
If it's thirteen to ten or to eleven, uh all right,
still let it blove it.
Speaker 1 (38:21):
But at least it's you didn't need a field goal
at the end if you get a touchdown. But this
was sixteen to thirteen. It's I I didn't get that.
I really didn't get that. No, hey, you know what,
maybe maybe maybe karma godam oh, you're gonna kick a
field goal when you shouldn't be. I'm gonna make it
hit the upright, and the football gods came bound.
Speaker 2 (38:37):
To tell you.
Speaker 4 (38:38):
The football gods are funny that way.
Speaker 1 (38:39):
Man.
Speaker 4 (38:41):
Sometimes you need to be humbled. No, we learned anything
from the chic blank the whole hogan, and sometimes you
need to be humbled.
Speaker 1 (38:49):
Those are two things. No field goal for you. Uh Now,
who are the happiest people in the world? Asked me
that question.
Speaker 4 (38:54):
Who are the happiest people in the world.
Speaker 1 (38:56):
The happiest people in the world are the people who
got no tre Dame plus twenty seven In game betting.
Speaker 4 (39:02):
It was like plus twenty five and a half. It
got to plus twenty seven and a half.
Speaker 1 (39:07):
So if you got note Day plus twenty seven and
a half early in the second.
Speaker 3 (39:11):
Half, you're feeling great right now.
Speaker 1 (39:13):
Man, You're like, yeah, look at me, look at the
confidence at notere Dame.
Speaker 4 (39:17):
It's still Ryan Day. Give me take my money. I'd
love to know what the volume is on that. A'll
text firm and see what kind of info we can
get in terms of what kind of volume you get
on an in game betting thing where a line is
starting to creep out as far as it did.
Speaker 1 (39:33):
Dude, Ohio State fans right now are going I just
want the game to end. I don't know how to feel.
I love my team, I love Ryan Day, but he
could blow this and we lost to Michigan. I can't
stand Ryan Day. What am I rooting for? Am I
rooting for us to hold on to win? I'm I
rooting for Ryan Dason. Get the guy out, because even
if we win, I'm not gonna be happy because we
still lost to Michigan. Like, Ohio State fans right now
(39:54):
have no idea what knowing.
Speaker 4 (39:55):
Is They just showed a shot of Ryan Day on
the sideline. He was all rosy cheeked, fresh faced when
it was a big lead. And now that's an eight
point game and they call a quarterback draw going to
the outside and he gets taken down at the line
of scrimmage, setting up a huge, huge third down. Ryan Day,
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looks like this game has elapsed like three days. All right,
this is one of those. All right, you're a method
actor and you've stayed awake for three days because you've
got a call that you got to know. The weight
of the world is on your shoulders.
Speaker 3 (40:28):
Oh yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (40:29):
So Ohio State has run the ball the last couple
of plays. They run the ball with Will Howard. They
are set up with a big third down and eleven
with two forty five left to go.
Speaker 4 (40:41):
Wide receiver got away with a huge hold on the outside.
Just bear hug demand.
Speaker 1 (40:46):
Notre Dame could be one third down stop away from
getting the football back at Ohio State Nation. Their heads
are gonna explode. Are we talking over time? Are we
crowning Ohio State? That's coming up next right here. Jason
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Speaker 1 (00:29):
Hello, Welcome inside, Happy Monday, the Jason Smith Show with
my base friend Mike Harmon. And I know the National Championship.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
Game was over. It was done.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
We were writing the epitaph for Notre Dame. Not so fast, Jaden.
Greathhouse has just caught a touchdown pass for Notre Dame.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
They are set to.
Speaker 4 (00:54):
Go for two. That would make this a two.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
Score game with three minutes to go in the third
third quarter. Ohio State had just continually dominated Notre Dame
since the initial drive of the game. Notre Dame is
in a shovel pass to love make it thirty one
fifteen still a two score game. As much as Ohio
State is dominated, Great House striking just like we've seen
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him do in the postseason earlier. This is now suddenly,
thankfully become a game that's not just going to be
a slow and steady march towards crowning Ohio State. He
catches a nice slant pass, breaks a couple of tackles,
a big spin move, and he is off to the
races to help make this a game. Still three minutes
to go in the third quarter.
Speaker 4 (01:37):
Turned and spun and it was shocked there was nobody
there to drill him. Man, it had been the issue
for Notre Dame every down after that first drive, that
eighteen play drive that started things like, well, all right,
we're throwing haymakers right away, Ohio State. March is right back.
And then Notre Dame could not get a stop on
a third down. All right, first down, yeah, great, cool,
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second second, cool, all right, third down conversion yeah yeah.
And then they finally stopped him on a big third
down because well, the wide receiver was wide open and
Howard missed him and they had to settle for a field.
Go like, wow, yeah, will.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
Howard's will Howard's having a great night tonight. Just think
of the night Kyle McCord would be having if we'll oh.
Speaker 4 (02:18):
Man, Yeah, you guys were the ones that coaxed the
greatness out of him.
Speaker 3 (02:23):
Yeah, I mean, look, just wait till Kyle McCord goes
number one overall.
Speaker 4 (02:26):
He was even.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
It's his fault we lost to Michigan. Look, so thirty
one fifteen, still a ways to go for Notre Dame.
But they do get back in it. And sometimes games
are difficult to break down. Sometimes they're nuanced, sometimes they
are Hey, listen, there's more than what we just saw.
But this game so far has been pretty simple. Uh,
(02:50):
Ohio State is the better team. They have the better roster,
They're more talented, they are the better team. Notre Dame
is a good team. They're a really good team. They're
not at Ohio State's level. This is why we talk
about one hundred million dollar roster that Ohios I see
twenty million dollar roster. I'm like, don't you think they
only spend twenty million dollars on this team? Say they
spend twenty million dollars the quarterback position?
Speaker 3 (03:10):
Just stop.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
What we are seeing, what we have seen so far
is just Ohio State is better and they're putting it
out there and in a weird way. And I know
it's gonna say weird when I say this Notre Dame's
touchdown on the opening drive might have been a great
thing for Ohio State because what did I say, My
only concern for oheis iiO State was coming into this
game that they that the Michigan Ohio State team would
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show up, where Howard makes a couple of mistakes and
Chip Kelly and Ryan Day get really conservative and you
turn that game into a toss.
Speaker 3 (03:40):
We're not going to throw the ball.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
We're going to try to control clock and and and
try to just win this game and just outlast them.
That's the only thing I could have seen them losing
to Notre Dame for. And the fact that Notre Dame
goes down the field and Riley Leonard, who I'm sure
was ready for an ice bath after that first drive,
he goes in for that touchdown. Ohio State knows we
need to be aggressive from here on. It we're trailing,
(04:02):
it was a ten minute drive, We're finally getting the football.
Let's go, let's go, let's go three touchdowns to end
the first half. That was it was.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
It was.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
I don't know that I'm saying it was the best
thing for Ohis State, but this certainly put the possibility
of Hey, we're going to ease our way in this
and we're not going to make mistakes. Our talent's gonna
overwhelm Eventually. It took that off the table because I've
seen Ryan Day and Chip Kelly do that right Michigan
a couple other games.
Speaker 3 (04:25):
I've seen them say, hey, we're going to back.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
Off, throw in the football because Howard's throwing a couple
of picks, or for whatever reason, Hey, we really don't
don't want to give the game to the other team.
And that's what happened against Michigan. They got scared and
they got really conservative, and I saw that happening tonight.
Notre name is really good defense there back seven. We've
talked about them, but that first touchdown took that off
the table.
Speaker 3 (04:45):
Took off the table.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
Hey, well, let's let's let's try to ease things here,
let's run the football, let's established linscreamge.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
No, this was man.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
We got a answer that was that was ten minutes
down our throat. That was Elway's version of the draw
all the way.
Speaker 3 (04:56):
Down our throat.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
So that really played into Ohio State and took that
off the table. And Ohio State has just been terrific
since then Notre Dame absolutely needed that touchdown to have
any kind make the fourth quarter, make anything look any
good here in the next week.
Speaker 5 (05:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (05:10):
The hope though, was on that first, you know, me
selfishly looking at it, not only because I picked Notre
Dame like potentially a fool? Here would you're upset by
a perfect weekend? Otherwise I'm four and oh. This should
be a terrible way to be terrible. I was perfect
this week.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
I was.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
If you listened to me, you went undefeated in NFL
picks this weekend. Wait a second, as long as well
hang on, the Textans are playing, you went undefeated if
you listen to me, wait for it. Wait, textans are
wait for it. Just would you just wait for it? Frostburg,
Just wait? The Chargers aren't playing either. Okay, you would
have been undefeated. If you listen to me this weekend
(05:48):
football picks, you would have gone four and oh.
Speaker 3 (05:51):
All you had to do was listen to me.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
Yeah, so I just listen and then just go the
opposite way of what I just picked. The undefeated defeated undefeated.
To just listen to me. You did it because you
went opposite me. That's the only reason you did why.
Speaker 4 (06:09):
What you do?
Speaker 3 (06:10):
That's what you do?
Speaker 1 (06:10):
That?
Speaker 3 (06:12):
Yes you did?
Speaker 1 (06:13):
You are you hate? You hate my family, my wife's
family in Detroit. All right, you hate dan Quinn, but
somehow you picked him anyway, So I know that was
not what you want to do.
Speaker 4 (06:21):
What do you things about dan Quinn? All the time?
Gave up one hundred and fifty eight Jordan?
Speaker 3 (06:28):
Here he is in the NFC.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
Men, you hate you hate him, you hate my family,
and you still win again.
Speaker 3 (06:34):
So now I know you.
Speaker 4 (06:35):
I did tell you we're going to come back on
the Lions. For all the trick plays uh and chicanery
through the year.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
You just just went the opposite. It just went the No,
it's not true. I just I was just right. That
would be no, you went the opposite way. You need
to give reasons when when you said I'm going out.
Why one of those shows that you said, here's a
who do you like?
Speaker 5 (06:55):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (06:56):
I like the other team?
Speaker 4 (06:57):
Why? I don't know?
Speaker 3 (06:58):
Crazy?
Speaker 4 (06:59):
Look, I leave the Homers where they might do that
just randomly name a team.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
Now you see the thing is I always thought that
that would be a great gambling strategy.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
Now hear me out on this, Okay?
Speaker 1 (07:14):
Sure is that if you're a bet and lots of
we're all bad gamblers, right, if you're a bad gambler. Now,
I've had a great hot year picking football game. This
was a screeching halt. But like, if you're a bad
gambler and you lose money, can you be a great
gambler by just saying, Okay, this is what I think
for this game, and then just go the opposite, Just
bet the opposite.
Speaker 4 (07:33):
Would you win? You know what would you win? You
might need would you would win? If that has a
small steak and have that over the course of next season.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
I'm just saying, like, you know, here's what I think.
And instead of that, I'm going the other way. Like
when I when I lock in, what do you want?
I like this game? Why because I think this is
gonna happen, and this is gonna happen. This is gonna happen. Okay, great,
are you ready to make your bet?
Speaker 3 (07:52):
Yeah? Give me the other team and that's my bet. Wait?
Speaker 1 (07:55):
Why because I'm going opposite of what I did. I
wonder if that's if that can be a sickcessful gambling strategy.
Speaker 4 (08:01):
But what's curious, right? You know? On top of that,
it's like I had a pretty good year picking against
the spread. I can show the documentation off it, but
I had no money on the line because it was
for giggles, right, just all right, here's the line, just
like the the Houston Kansas City game. Well, if you
lost on it, then you didn't get the right line
because that line was sitting at eight and a half
(08:21):
all week long. And then people are like, well it's
nine and a half. It's like if you got it, wait,
it was nine and a half.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
But but that it's always what what did it go
off at? Right, that's always went off at nine and
a half. Off, but you might have gotten it early.
Speaker 4 (08:35):
Yeah, but but what are you going about talking about
the game? Hey, this is either.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
A really devastating win for you or it's an incredibly
devastating loss, or it's an incredible win, or it might
not be either. So you have to pick something, you know.
You can't just say hey, either it's well.
Speaker 4 (08:49):
And you can't really not the specificity of it anyway,
because they still quote frown on that, do I. Meanwhile,
I'll go which one of these? Meanwhile, go go to
this website right now, make your picks on the next thing.
But the curiosity in this game was would the man
demand coverage for Notre Dame be be enough? Right with
(09:11):
all the wide receivers, with all of the options that
you have. For Ohio State, would they have enough in
the secondary? We've lauded the style they've played with all
year long for Notre Dame, and the answers no, because
there seems to always be an extra man. So like
they haven't been able to get pressure up front on
Howard clean pocket all day long without bringing an extra guy,
(09:32):
And there it's just becomes the Swiss Army Knight and
it becomes the right pick your poison? Which guy is
Howard gonna single out on a given throw? So yeah,
it's it's a game in theory. We'll see if we
can get a good fourth quarter here live Live betting
got up to twenty four for twenty four and a half.
Speaker 3 (09:51):
Really down.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
Yeah, so now you're feeling you're feeling okay, You might
feel a little bit better if you got in there. Yeah,
where do we sit right now? First down for Ohio State.
They were just faced a third and short. They were
able to convert, so they have the football up thirty
one fifteen over Notre Dame. A minute and a half
to go in the third quarter. Look, if Notre Dame
is going to win this game, it needs to be
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goose eggs on the scoreboard for Ohio State the rest
of the way. Really, I mean really, Ohio State is
one score of any kind away from clinching this game,
all right, I mean it could be a safety, could be.
Speaker 3 (10:25):
A rouge, a ruge, could be a rouge.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
Right, and kick it off the net comes down, I said,
you might have to explain to people what a rouge rouges.
The Canadian football is still going, I mean, if you're
a but I don't But I don't know how much
people are really in tune with the rules of Canadian football.
Speaker 4 (10:40):
People don't know the rules of most of the pro
games they're watching from the United States.
Speaker 3 (10:45):
When do we go for two points? Let me look
that up. Oh really, that didn't go. No, it's the.
Speaker 4 (10:49):
Blackjack card you buy for ninety nine cents in Vegas.
I mean, you don't figure this out.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
So this is I mean, they need and Ohio State's
got the football right now at their own forty yard line.
It needs to be goose eggs. If it's goose eggs,
the rest of the way. Yeah, Well, any score thirty
four to fifteen, that'll do it. Because you're right now,
you're talking about Notre Dame getting two scores and two
point conversions and shutting Ohio State out, and that's a
really difficult thing. And as I say this, Notre Dame
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just commits a really bad penalty. Marcus Freeman is ready
to throw up on the sideline. It was a second
and long for Ohio State. Ohio State throws a screen
pass and it doesn't go and wow, one of the
defensive linemen takes two full steps and pushes Will Howard,
who then plays dead.
Speaker 3 (11:39):
Well Will Howard.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
Okay, Unlike Patrick Mahomes, Will Howard was actually pushed and
fell to the ground. It was an awful penalty. It
was two full steps. Open takes two full steps before
he pushes Will Howard, who goes to the ground. It
is a fifteen yard penalty and now a first down
for Ohio State on the Notre Dame forty seven yard line,
like they're they're one play away from getting the football back.
(12:04):
I get your and that's the thing is I get
your frustrated. I understand. I understand what's been going on
all game, and you're losing it.
Speaker 3 (12:10):
Boy.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
You just want to put a hint on a guy that's,
you know, one pass away from having a perfect day.
I get it, I get it. But when you're two
steps away, you can't. You can't go after him. I mean,
you didn't even get a good hit so much daylight
on him, but it was a shove.
Speaker 4 (12:24):
It's like, it's not even a good hint. Yeah, but
you can't do it. You can't. No, it's it's a
terrible it's a terrible decision. I'm just saying, like the
frustration that you talk about the greatness that we've seen
from this Ohio State offensive line taking care of business
and running the line of scrimmage has been there is
all night long. Uh chunk yardage on run plays and
obviously Howard working from a clean pocket. I get it.
(12:47):
You're frustrated that you haven't gotten there. Guess what, you
didn't get there either, because you didn't. It's not like
you were one step away and then you drilled him.
But if you're gonna take the fifteen yard penalty, you
might as well go, you know, get get to the
rib cage at that instead of a half ass shove
to where he goes to the ground. But it's plain
as day.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
I always think, I see what you did right there,
plain as days he did. I mean, I always think, well, eventually,
at some point defensive players are gonna understand, Hey, can't
can't go.
Speaker 3 (13:15):
After the quod.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
Yeah, yeah, no, no, no, it's still gonna happen, still
gonna happen, Still gonna go after It's still gonna do it.
Speaker 3 (13:20):
I know you can't, still gonna do.
Speaker 4 (13:21):
It, but I only touched him, dupe.
Speaker 3 (13:23):
Still good enough, Still gonna do it.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
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So coming up next, we'll have more on Ohio State
to Notre Dame headed to the fourth quarter, Ohio State driving?
Speaker 3 (14:19):
Are they putting the ball away?
Speaker 1 (14:21):
Plus we get into Lamar Jackson and the conversation that
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off and free shipping. Well, we were basically another half
second away from the National Championship game being over thirty
one to fifteen. Ohio State had the lead and they
(16:28):
were driving. They had a bad penalty on Notre Dame
where Notre Dame took to Obi took two extra steps
and hit Will Howard became a first down for Ohio State.
Ohio State throws a screen pass that goes for a
long gain right the Egbuka goes for twenty four yards
and falling down like he's falling down it is. It
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is not even a half, like maybe a quarter of
a second away from the game being over because he's
going down around the twenty yard line. Even if Ohio
State doesn't get a touch on the case a field
goal and that's it. But the ball gets punched out
just before his knee hits the ground and Ohio State
gives up the football and Notre Dame gets it again
another quarter second away. It was from the game being over,
(17:15):
and now Notre Dame is still sort of alive. They
are driving as well. That they're faced with a fourth
down right now, a fourth and five from just inside
the thirty five yard line of Ohio State. You could
say this is a rubber hit the road play and
a game saving play and Riley Leonard's able to complete
it for a first down. So here's Notre Dame great
(17:35):
house with a big gram again went in doubt, go
to Greathouse.
Speaker 3 (17:39):
He has had a.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
Big game, He's had a big second half. So now
Notre Dame has the ball inside the Ohio State twenty
yard line down two. Scores out that he touched down
two touchdown two. But wow, I mean you're talking about
just hold onto the football and the game is likely over,
and instead it's punched out and Notre Dame has life.
Speaker 4 (17:58):
K me getting ready to hit the ground to punch
out another to the long highlight reel of why Peanut
Tillman should be going to the Hall of Fame Former
Bear and now federal agent Peanut Tillman.
Speaker 1 (18:11):
Uh and do you think Peanut Tillman when he when
he when he grabs a guy and when they when
when he grabs god Red like he does the Peanut.
Speaker 4 (18:17):
Poet, he does like whatever's yeah whatever in.
Speaker 1 (18:19):
Riminal is running away and he grabs him with the
left hand on the left shoulder, and the criminal turns
and then he punches out whatever he says. It's a
big swipe either when he's stolen his phone, any kind
of weapon.
Speaker 4 (18:29):
I mean, it's gone like.
Speaker 1 (18:30):
A big briefcase with the nuclear codes in it or something,
whatever it is, because you know it could be the
nuclear football, you know, Peanut tillmany you never can he
punches out the nuclear football.
Speaker 3 (18:39):
Oh my goodness, it's loose. The nuclear football is loose.
Speaker 4 (18:43):
Peanut Talban's falling on it. First, a striped shirt comes
running out. I like this cut and print. There's one
for the next movie. But yeah, moving the ball well
once again, because if nothing else, you you're gonna end
up with a field goal at a minimum, taking care
of the football, of course, but you're also gonna run
(19:03):
another three minutes off the clock. Right. That's the other
part is that you you shorten the fourth quarter along
the way here and now we're looking at a big possession.
Still a lot that needs to happen, but you're staying
there's still a chance, and this game's not over because
when we were getting ready to come on air, let's
let's be honest about it. Like national title game Ohio State,
(19:24):
they're loaded, it's done not so fast.
Speaker 1 (19:28):
I really a quarter of a second from being over
because you see he's head and clearly isn't it. But
but his knee is maybe I don't know what, not
even ten inches from the ground. Not even you can
see that it's off the ground. Controversy there, We tell
you the truth with all all the calls here right,
the Notre Dame, the bad penalty was a penalty to
extend the Ohio State drive. His knee is no more
(19:48):
than tended because he's actually falling when he's when he's
going trying to go like he's actually falling down.
Speaker 3 (19:54):
So it's not like he you know, he's hitting.
Speaker 1 (19:56):
He's like he's and he's he's that close to the
ground and the ball is punched out and now here's
Notre Dame second and goal inside the ten yard line,
trying to cut this Ohio State lead to one score.
Speaker 4 (20:08):
All of a sudden, all the Ryan Day haters have
gotten back on their computers and they're amending the letters
that they'd already been writing.
Speaker 3 (20:15):
They're still gonna be upset.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
If somehow Ohio State wins a national championship, you're gonna
get maybe not half, maybe a good one out of
every three Ohio State fans. It's gonna be three Ohigh
State fans a lie and say, hey, how do you
feel about this? First Ohio State fans gonna say, won
the national title, Man, it's awesome. Second one's gonna say,
we won the national champion it's awesome. Third one's gonna say, eh,
we lost to Michigan. That's gonna be at least that's
(20:40):
good fan base. That's gonna be that. But we lost
the Michigan that's great. But we lost the mission.
Speaker 4 (20:44):
So that's that's the side of a healthy fan base
that you still have to have. Everything else could go
co write, but it didn't go one hundred percent, right,
so you gotta be salty about it.
Speaker 3 (20:53):
That's good.
Speaker 1 (20:54):
So we'll have more from this game coming up in
a bit again Notre Dame knocking on the door. Steve
de Seger will have more and what's trending coming up
in a couple of minutes. But look, coming off this
huge week in the NFL, so many big storylines to
get to, none bigger because we called it. I told
your Friday. The storyline I'm looking forward to the most
is that the loser of the game between Josh Allen
and Lamar Jackson is going to be Oh they're overrated.
Speaker 3 (21:17):
They stink.
Speaker 1 (21:17):
Oh they stare no matter what happens. Oh, they stink,
they stink, they stink. Okay, so now obviously the Ravens lose.
Mark Andrews drops two point conversion that would have sent
the game to overtime, and now all that's out there,
all the boo birds are out there for Lamar Jackson.
Two turnovers in the first half, Marta, Yeah, it wasn't
Lamar Jackson's best game, but still faced with the football,
(21:40):
you know, ninety yards from from the end zone, he
drives them down for a touchdown, They score, and it's
a two point conversion away from tying the game. Now,
I want to say two things about this. He did
what he was supposed to do. I got him down there,
scored a touchdown through the past to Mark Andrews. Right,
And if you want to be mad at Lamar Jackson, Well, oh,
(22:03):
go to have the touchdown?
Speaker 3 (22:03):
Would have the touchdown.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
Let me just say this first of all, if that happened, right,
even if Mark Andrews catches that ball, Josh Allen's got
ninety seconds and two timeouts. Sure, how do you think
that's gonna end? All I can say, do you think
that's well?
Speaker 4 (22:15):
And I put this on Twitter because let me help
you here is that your team had given up six
points in the second half, and you can say, well,
they gave up twenty one in the first half. Yeah,
seven of them came after twenty a twenty four yard
drive caused by a Lamar Jackson bumble.
Speaker 3 (22:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (22:31):
Okay, So the assumption, what would you rather have? Tie
ball game? And this guy's got to go drive them
into where bask can kick a field going. Yeah, he's
got a big leg.
Speaker 3 (22:41):
Yeah, but is.
Speaker 4 (22:42):
It greater than Hey, we have to convert an on
side kick?
Speaker 3 (22:47):
What is it?
Speaker 4 (22:47):
Three three point eight percent? And then we've got to
do it, and then I've got to trust Justin Tucker.
Speaker 3 (22:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (22:55):
No, so Mark Andrews, everybody trying to absolve him. No, No, well,
I'm which is why he doesn't talk to anybody. Lost
the game because that butt no, no, no, but we
catch it.
Speaker 2 (23:04):
No.
Speaker 1 (23:04):
But but if he does catch it, it's Josh Allen
ninety And I've seen that movie so many.
Speaker 4 (23:09):
Times and nobody's a bigger Josh Allen supporter than I am.
But that's been used the last twenty four hours quite
a bit to try to Oh. I mean, we like
Mark Andrews, great player, good guy from all accounts, one
of the shining examples of all that's right with our
sporting world. It's his fall.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
No, it's obviously you should have got he had the fumbles,
one to all those. But what I'm saying is that
it's not like if he catches that ball, they win
the game. Right, if he catches that ball, at best,
you're going to overtime. Sure, now you went from having
a chance to keep playing to losing. But it's not
like we went from winning to losing. You went from Okay,
now we don't have the football, we're giving it back
(23:49):
to them.
Speaker 3 (23:50):
And the best.
Speaker 1 (23:50):
Quarterback outside of the guy on our sideline is has
but you at least have yards and whereby you.
Speaker 4 (23:56):
Don't have one. But it's because you have one time
out and they can heal the ball out.
Speaker 3 (24:00):
But it wasn't a win or lose. It wasn't it
wasn't a we win or we lose.
Speaker 4 (24:05):
It's well, I mean.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
Time we have a chance to keep going right that
that's where we at least get to play some more
meaningful football.
Speaker 4 (24:10):
Yeah, as opposed to, Hey, look there's josh Yaher kneeling down.
Speaker 1 (24:13):
But this is something you haven't heard all day about
Lamar Jackson, and it's it's it's the truth. When it
comes to how you view him as a quarterback. Is
he great? Absolutely? Is he a Hall of Famer? Absolutely?
Why can't he get over the hump? Why can't Lamar
Jackson get to the super Bowl? I'll tell you because
when you're not the best team in your conference, it
(24:36):
is hard to get to the super Bowl. Look at
the AFC since Lamar Jackson's come into the league, right,
We've had the end of the Patriots dynasty, the Chiefs
dynasty one time. And since Lamar's come into the league,
has there been a team other than the Chiefs or
the Patriots, who were the two best teams in the
conference for the last twenty years make it to the
(24:57):
Super Bowl. When the Bengals won in Burrowhead a couple.
This is not just me being able to say Burrowhead.
You want to go back to the beginning of the
two thousands, right, you had the Patriots dynasty, and then
you went from the Patriots being the best team for
the better part of twenty years, and then the Chiefs
took over and they've been to four Super Bowls since
the Patriots stopped going. So you're talking about the two
best teams in the conference are taking up three quarters
(25:21):
to four fifths of all Super Bowl appearances. And when
Lamar's been in the league one year, the best team
in the AFC didn't make it right because the Chiefs
were still better than the Bengals. Bengals were hot Borough
wins the game. Mc fearsome makes the fifty yarder. But
when you're not on the best team, it's hard. And
a game like yesterday where Lamar Jackson turns the ball
(25:42):
over twice in the fridge hasn't done that in what
five years? When he doesn't play an A plus level,
you're not gonna win because the rest of your team
is not good enough. Whereas for the Patriots, Hey Brady
could have a pedestrian game and guess what the Patrio
find a way to win because their defense is really good,
they'd run the football.
Speaker 3 (26:00):
Oh well, same thing from the Chiefs.
Speaker 1 (26:01):
Hey, Mahomes might not have the best game, but hey,
they're gonna be clutching the fourth quarter.
Speaker 3 (26:05):
The defense is gonna make plays. You couldn't trust the
Ravens defense to make plays.
Speaker 1 (26:09):
The offense is not you know, doesn't have people that
can really pick it up. If Lamar Jackson doesn't play well,
if you're not on the best team in the conference,
it is hard. It's hard. So I'm not making an
excuse for him. I'm just saying, look at the reality,
right since he's come into the league one time, a
team that wasn't the best in the conference made it
because the Patriots were the best team when he came
into the league. Super Bowl, super Bowl, Brady leaves the
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air of the Patriots over. But there's Mahomes, Mahomes, Mahomes, Mahomes, Mahomes,
the Chiefs with then the best team. The Ravens have
never been the best team in the AFC. Never, And
when you're not, look how hard it is to get
to the super Bowl. And so this is why Lamar
has not been there.
Speaker 3 (26:44):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (26:45):
Has he had really good playoff games, yeah? Has he
had okay playoff games?
Speaker 3 (26:49):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (26:50):
But the bottom line is, even when he doesn't have
an A plus game, you're not gonna win because your
team is not that good. That's why Lamar Jackson hasn't
gotten the Super Bowl.
Speaker 4 (27:00):
Well. Taking the ball out of Derek Henry's hand seems
pretty curious and not giving him an opportunity to continue
to sledge hammer in frigid temperatures and to make things
a little easier a little more Lamar Jackson design runs.
He carried the ball six times in that game. It's
much like last year. We questioned a lot of the
(27:21):
play calling and decision making by the Baltimore offense and
coordinator and they got fired because they didn't run the
ball in the second half of that game. In Baltimore radio,
I was telling you earlier, I checked in with one
of my guys. I go, hey, what's the biggest thing? Goes, well,
Harbass sucks. Lamar can't get over. I go how far
(27:43):
before he actually got to Andrew? He goes, you know,
if folks just kind of pushed that off to the side,
it was everything else and what we couldn't do.
Speaker 1 (27:50):
So.
Speaker 4 (27:50):
The question for John Harbaugh is does he deserve the
same treatment as Mike Tomlin at this point in terms
of winning a big one. But we'll put that aside
for a moment. Yeah, Look, you had an opportunity to
go and win this game, right. You gave up a
couple of bad turnovers early, the interception whatever the miscommunication was,
the air mailing it that he did, and the fumble
(28:13):
is just a terrible play on a million levels to
set up a short field. But all in you still
had the puncher's chance and your defense did its job
against Josh Allen. Josh Allen did not look like a
superhero yesterday. Right, one hundred and twenty seven passing yards,
he finishes just twenty rushing yards. But he's a bulldozer
(28:35):
in the red zone. So you're able to do that.
I still question that third down call and then kicking
the field goal, but that and to even open the door,
but that's a whole other discussion for another time. With
Lamar Jackson, you're playing at a superman level. I think
you've made the argument before talking about the a list
games that you would get all season long from a
Peyton Manning or a Drew Brees, and then when things
(28:58):
get ratcheted up, the rest of your squad's got to
come with you, and they're certainly there. Jay Flowers is
in there, excuses, reasons whatever when we talk about it,
because he was on even all year long, so it
wasn't like he was a nine catch a game guy
that suddenly isn't there. But the Lamar Jackson, Yeah, the
margin for error was not there against his Buffalo squad
(29:19):
on the road. And folks can do whatever they want
about the Chiefs, whine about the Chiefs, however you want
just win.
Speaker 1 (29:27):
Exit out about a Fresco exit, swollen Dome, The Jason
Smith Show with my best friend Mike Carmen, something different.
But when you understand always never been on the best team,
and it's really hard and when you're not the best
team to get there. Because you're saying, these are two
dynasties that were taught. We went from the Patriots dynasty
to the Chiefs dynasty. Already, you know that that opportunities
to go, we're going to be limits once every couple
(29:48):
of year, three four years, if you're lucky, if you're lucky.
Speaker 4 (29:52):
Yeah, I'd also saw the lot of comparisons to the
well here we're banning and hear whatever, like you're not guaranteed.
You know you brought up the car. Your guy, Joe Burrow,
I always want to make him Carson Palmer for some reason.
Joe Burrow and all those folks that thought it was
gonna be the long run of Hail to the Bengals. Yeah,
awful hard. Isn't it awful hard to get back? That
(30:14):
looks like a blip on the radar where we're sitting
right now. Why because you're in the same damn division
as Lamar Hadson and that Pittsburgh team that's just good
enough to be vexing.
Speaker 1 (30:24):
Exit out about a Fresca exit swollen Dome. The Jason
Smith Show with Mike Carmon Live from the Tirec dot
Com Studios. So a lot more NFL on the way,
big weekend to get to, but first special delivery. Steve
de Segers tell us what's trending.
Speaker 4 (30:38):
People say he is the Ryan Day of Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 3 (30:42):
He can do a lot of great things, but one
tiny thing goes wrong and everybody hates him. Yeah. I've
just been yelling at Lou Holtz for no reason.
Speaker 4 (30:50):
That's why It's not a bad way to pass time though.
Speaker 5 (30:54):
By the way, they are a cable doing Louholds impersonations
on the sideline during the game.
Speaker 3 (30:58):
That's how lopsided this thing.
Speaker 5 (31:00):
National Championship game in college football going on in Atlanta.
Ohio State led thirty one to seven in the third quarter,
scoring points on their first five drives.
Speaker 4 (31:09):
Thirty one to fifteen.
Speaker 5 (31:11):
Is now the lead with under six and a half
minutes left in the fourth quarter. The buck guys on
the opening play of the fourth did fumble long drive
for Notre Dame to get a first and goal at
the eight. They settled for a short field goal attempt, no.
Speaker 3 (31:25):
Good off the upright.
Speaker 5 (31:27):
Ohio State has just punted six to twenty five left
in the national title game. Buckeye's up thirty one to fifteen.
Quinch On Judkins three total touchdowns for Ohio State, nine
kerries ninety six yards. The Chicago Bears new head coach
is Ben Johnson, who is Detroit's offensive coordinator. The past
three years, the Lions were the league's top scoring offense.
(31:48):
Former Saints head coach Dennis Allen is due to be
a candidate to be his defensive coordinator. The Colts new
defensive coordinator is lou Anarumo, ex of the Bengals. Indies
defense was ranked twenty ninth this past year's new special
teams coordinator is John Fossil from Dallas to the NBA.
Charlotte beat Dallas today one ten, one oh five despite
thirty three points from Kyrie Irving. The Lake Game's about
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to start with the Clippers hosting a Bulls team that's
lost five in a row and the Pelicans, with thirty
seconds left in overtime, lead Utah one twenty one one nineteen.
Utah was up twenty to three after less than five
minutes in this game, led by twenty five later might
be losing it overtime, and Zion Williamson of the Pelicans.
Speaker 3 (32:31):
Is out due to illness.
Speaker 5 (32:33):
In college hoops, Georgetown won at Villanova on a last
second layup sixty four sixty three easy wins in college
basketball in New Jersey today as number one UCLA beat
up Baylor, number seven Texas all over number eight Maryland.
NHL Saint Louis in a shootout wins at Vegas five
to four, and the Blue Jays are signing outfielder Anthony
(32:53):
Son tender back to you.
Speaker 3 (32:55):
Thank you, Steve O.
Speaker 1 (32:56):
The Jason Smithson with Mike Carman Live Thetirack dot Com Studios.
Speaker 3 (33:00):
Since we last left you.
Speaker 1 (33:01):
In this game, Notre Dame driving, they were faced with
a fourth and long. They try a field goal to
cut the lead to thirty one to eighteen. Make it
a still a two score game, but a touchdown two
point in a field goal, except in true Chicago Bears fashion,
it dooinks off the left upright. Ohio State takes over
kills some clock. Now Notre Dame has the football back
(33:22):
with about five and a half left to go, down
by two touchdowns and two to two point conversions. We'll
have more on this game coming up, and also straight ahead, Hey,
the guy we thought who was the best head coaching
candidate and all of the NFL got a job of
the team we thought he was going to be to
get the job with?
Speaker 3 (33:40):
Is it the right move he That's next Jason and
Mike Fox.
Speaker 2 (33:45):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason smith
Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven
pm Pacific.
Speaker 3 (33:54):
Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 1 (33:57):
Sorry, I'm watching the game, Jason, I should is watching
the Something I've never I've never said before Alex Tischer
is watching the.
Speaker 3 (34:04):
Game, Jason, isn't it weird that I'm actually here for
the game?
Speaker 4 (34:06):
It is missing the first Yeah, first one in a
long long time. Yeah, I mean just watch him, that's why. Yeah,
he forgot the game. Usually hosts a party. Yeah, something
must have fallen through this year.
Speaker 1 (34:16):
But he's watching the game. Why is he watching the game? Well,
we'll get to Ben Johnson and the Bears coming up. However, Hey, hey,
we got a game here, which makes Marcus Freeman's decision
to kick a field goal a few minutes ago really
not great. But no, tre Dame gets a bit look
down to down two scores. You need a touchdown and
two two point conversions to tie this game.
Speaker 3 (34:39):
What do you do?
Speaker 1 (34:39):
If you're Riddy Leonard, I'm gonna throw it to Jaden
Greathhouse who makes another big catch in the end zone.
Forget about oh, Rodney Leonard's improving his draft stock and
oh you know, yeah, Will Howard's approving his raft. No, dude,
but bleeping Jaden Greathhouse man come on five for one eleven,
two touchdowns. He's been great in the playoff, and they
run a trick play for the two point conversion. They
(35:02):
run a little bit of a flip wide receiver option
pass all alone in the back of the end zone
for the two point conversion, and Notre Dame now trails
buy a touchdown.
Speaker 3 (35:13):
It is thirty one twenty three.
Speaker 1 (35:15):
They have all three timeouts left, four to ten to
go in the fourth quarter.
Speaker 3 (35:20):
And again, I'm gonna go back to what I said
a few minutes ago.
Speaker 1 (35:23):
This game was a fraction of a second away from
being over, but Notre Dame forces a fumble on a
long pass. It was gonna give Ohio State the ball
deep in Notre Dame territory, up sixteen, and from that
play on, Notre Dame has had life and now they're
down by eight. Now, to get back to the conversation,
we had a few minutes ago, down thirty one to sixteen,
(35:46):
Marcus Freeman and Notre Dame face with a fourth and
goal from the Ohio State nine yard line, and he
elects to kick.
Speaker 3 (35:52):
A field goal.
Speaker 1 (35:54):
Thirty one fifteen is the score and the electioncfield that
would turn it into a thirteen point game, which really
you sit back and go what because it's still a
two touch your touchdown game? Yeah, And you still, no
matter what, you still need to a touchdown at two
and two field.
Speaker 2 (36:11):
It's a mess.
Speaker 1 (36:12):
Now you don't need two touchdowns and two two point conversions,
but you still need two touchdowns. You still need to
get up and down the field. Stop the up and
down field twice. I don't understand the philosophy behind that.
Especially it's not fourth and third. ID don't care. If
it's fourth in a mile, you kind of have to
go for it.
Speaker 4 (36:27):
You're at the eight yard line.
Speaker 1 (36:28):
Yeah, it's fourth and goal from the nine. How do
you and I get that? You had three plays, it
didn't get anywhere, but uh, you need It's midway through
the fourth quarter of the National Championship game. What do
you think is gonna have you kick a field goal?
Speaker 3 (36:40):
Okay?
Speaker 4 (36:40):
Great?
Speaker 1 (36:40):
Oh I say it's gonna say, oh, you just took
five minutes off the clock up for for a field goal.
Oh awesome, like Marcus Freeman again, clock management.
Speaker 3 (36:49):
I do the class every year. It's twenty grand.
Speaker 1 (36:51):
Now it's gonna be twenty five grand a coach, because
you know it's a buyer's market. Twenty five grand a
coach come out to understand when to go for two,
when to kick a field goal to not when to
call time out? When to not's we're branching out now
with my end of season weekend that coaches can come
and attend, and I teach you all about how to
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manage the clock in the final four or five minutes
of the game.
Speaker 4 (37:14):
Yeah, it's a question that still needs to be asked.
I mean, they because they get stuck because he dooints
the field goal. Now they ended up forcing an Ohio
State punt. But three minutes elapsed off the clock. So
you got the ball back with about six minutes left,
six play, eighty yard drive, make good on it, right,
plus two point conversion. But that's three minutes you're not
(37:36):
getting back talking about field position, et cetera. And now
you're still at an eight point game. Now we got
three seventeen Howard with a big run for a first down,
so we'll see how the defense holds up. But yeah,
as he ran out there, I did everything I could.
I even shut my microphone off to make sure I
didn't audibly curse on air as he trotted the kicker
(37:58):
out there, because it made absolutely no sense.
Speaker 3 (38:01):
No, I don't know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (38:02):
If it was a way to cut it if it
was a sixteen point game and you try to cut
it to thirteen, which is what's going through my head
and the whole time.
Speaker 4 (38:09):
Oh, kick it on it's thirteen to ten.
Speaker 1 (38:11):
If it's sixteen to thirteen, Uh no.
Speaker 3 (38:15):
If it's thirteen to ten or to eleven, uh all right,
still let it blove it.
Speaker 1 (38:21):
But at least it's you didn't need a field goal
at the end if you get a touchdown. But this
was sixteen to thirteen. It's I I didn't get that.
I really didn't get that. No, hey, you know what,
maybe maybe maybe karma godam oh, you're gonna kick a
field goal when you shouldn't be. I'm gonna make it
hit the upright, and the football gods came bound.
Speaker 2 (38:37):
To tell you.
Speaker 4 (38:38):
The football gods are funny that way.
Speaker 1 (38:39):
Man.
Speaker 4 (38:41):
Sometimes you need to be humbled. No, we learned anything
from the chic blank the whole hogan, and sometimes you
need to be humbled.
Speaker 1 (38:49):
Those are two things. No field goal for you. Uh Now,
who are the happiest people in the world? Asked me
that question.
Speaker 4 (38:54):
Who are the happiest people in the world.
Speaker 1 (38:56):
The happiest people in the world are the people who
got no tre Dame plus twenty seven In game betting.
Speaker 4 (39:02):
It was like plus twenty five and a half. It
got to plus twenty seven and a half.
Speaker 1 (39:07):
So if you got note Day plus twenty seven and
a half early in the second.
Speaker 3 (39:11):
Half, you're feeling great right now.
Speaker 1 (39:13):
Man, You're like, yeah, look at me, look at the
confidence at notere Dame.
Speaker 4 (39:17):
It's still Ryan Day. Give me take my money. I'd
love to know what the volume is on that. A'll
text firm and see what kind of info we can
get in terms of what kind of volume you get
on an in game betting thing where a line is
starting to creep out as far as it did.
Speaker 1 (39:33):
Dude, Ohio State fans right now are going I just
want the game to end. I don't know how to feel.
I love my team, I love Ryan Day, but he
could blow this and we lost to Michigan. I can't
stand Ryan Day. What am I rooting for? Am I
rooting for us to hold on to win? I'm I
rooting for Ryan Dason. Get the guy out, because even
if we win, I'm not gonna be happy because we
still lost to Michigan. Like, Ohio State fans right now
(39:54):
have no idea what knowing.
Speaker 4 (39:55):
Is They just showed a shot of Ryan Day on
the sideline. He was all rosy cheeked, fresh faced when
it was a big lead. And now that's an eight
point game and they call a quarterback draw going to
the outside and he gets taken down at the line
of scrimmage, setting up a huge, huge third down. Ryan Day,
(40:16):
looks like this game has elapsed like three days. All right,
this is one of those. All right, you're a method
actor and you've stayed awake for three days because you've
got a call that you got to know. The weight
of the world is on your shoulders.
Speaker 3 (40:28):
Oh yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (40:29):
So Ohio State has run the ball the last couple
of plays. They run the ball with Will Howard. They
are set up with a big third down and eleven
with two forty five left to go.
Speaker 4 (40:41):
Wide receiver got away with a huge hold on the outside.
Just bear hug demand.
Speaker 1 (40:46):
Notre Dame could be one third down stop away from
getting the football back at Ohio State Nation. Their heads
are gonna explode. Are we talking over time? Are we
crowning Ohio State? That's coming up next right here. Jason
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