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Speaker 1 (00:34):
Hello, Welcome inside, Happy Monday, the Jason Smith Show with
my bass friend Mike Harmon. And I know the National Championship.

Speaker 3 (00:46):
Game was over. It was done. We were writing the
epitaph for Notre Dame. Not so fast, Jaden.

Speaker 1 (00:54):
Greathhouse has just caught a touchdown pass for Notre Dame.

Speaker 3 (00:58):
They are set to go for two.

Speaker 1 (01:01):
That would make this a two score game with three
minutes to go in the third quarter. Ohio State had
just continually dominated Notre Dame since the initial drive of
the game. Notre Dame is in a shovel pass to
love make it thirty one fifteen still a two score game.
As much as Ohio State is dominated, Great House striking

(01:22):
just like we've seen him do in the postseason earlier.
This is now suddenly, thankfully become a game that's not
just going to be a slow and steady march towards
crowning Ohio State. He catches a nice slant pass, breaks
a couple of tackles, a big spin move, and he
is off to the races to help make this a game.
Still three minutes to go in the third quarter.

Speaker 4 (01:42):
Turned and spun and it was shocked there was nobody
there to drill him. And it had been the issue
for Notre Dame every down after that first drive, that
eighteen play drive that started things like, well, all right,
we're throwing haymakers right away, Ohio State.

Speaker 3 (01:56):
March is right back.

Speaker 4 (01:58):
And then Notre Dame could not get a stop out
a third down. All right, first down, yeah, great, cool,
second second and long cool, all right.

Speaker 3 (02:06):
Third down conversion yeah yeah.

Speaker 4 (02:08):
And then they finally stopped him on a big third
down because well, the wide receiver was wide open and
Howard missed him and they had to settle for a field.

Speaker 3 (02:15):
Go like, wow, yeah, Will Howard's Will Howard's having a
great night tonight. Just think of the night. Kyle McCord
would be having if we'll ring oh Man.

Speaker 4 (02:24):
Yeah, you guys were the ones that coaxed the greatness
out of him.

Speaker 3 (02:28):
Yeah, I mean, look, just wait till Kyle McCord goes
number one overall. Was even.

Speaker 1 (02:34):
It's his fault we lost to Michigan. Look, so thirty
one fifteen, still a ways to go for Notre Dame.
But they do get back in it. And sometimes games
are difficult to break down. Sometimes they're nuanced, sometimes they
are Hey, listen, there's more than what we just saw.
But this game so far has been pretty simple. Uh,

(02:55):
Ohio State is the better team. They have the better roster,
they're more talented, They are the better team. Notre Dame
is a good team. They're a really good team. They're
not at Ohio State's level. This is why we talk
about one hundred million dollars roster that Ohio State. I
see twenty million dollar roster. I'm like, Dudn't you think
they only spend twenty million dollars on this team? Say
they spend twenty million dollars in the quarterback position.

Speaker 3 (03:15):
Just stop.

Speaker 1 (03:16):
What we are seeing, what we have seen so far
is just Ohio State is better and they're putting it
out there and in a weird way. And I know
it's gonna say weird when I say this, Notre Dame's
touchdown on the opening drive might have been a great
thing for Ohio State because what did I say. My
only concern for oheis iiO State was coming into this
game that they that the Michigan Ohio State team would

(03:37):
show up where Howard makes a couple of mistakes and
Chip Kelly and Ryan Day get really conservative and you
turn that game into a toss.

Speaker 3 (03:46):
We're not going to throw the ball.

Speaker 1 (03:47):
We're going to try to control clock and and try
to just win this game and just outlast them. That's
the only thing I could have seen them losing to
Notre Dame for. And the fact that Notre Dame goes
down the field and Riley Leonard, who I'm sure ready
for an ice bath after that first drive, he goes
in for that touchdown. Ohio State knows, no, we need
to be aggressive from here on it we're trailing. It

(04:07):
was a ten minute drive. We're finally getting the football.
Let's go, let's go, let's go three touchdowns to end
the first half.

Speaker 3 (04:14):
That was it was.

Speaker 1 (04:15):
It was I don't know that I'm saying it was
the best thing for all has State, but this certainly
put the possibility of, hey, we're gonna ease our windings
and we're not gonna make mistakes.

Speaker 3 (04:23):
Our talent's gonna overwhelm.

Speaker 1 (04:25):
Eventually, it took that off the table because I've seen
Ryan Day and Chip Kelly do that right Michigan a
couple other games.

Speaker 3 (04:30):
I've seen them say, hey, we're going.

Speaker 1 (04:31):
To back off, throw in the football because Howard's throwing
a couple of picks, or for whatever reason, Hey, we
really don't don't want to give the game to the
other team. And that's what happened against Michigan. They got
scared and they got really conservative. And I saw that
happening tonight. Notre Dame's really good defense there back seven.
We've talked about them, but that first touchdown took that
off the table. Took off the table. Hey, well, let's
let's let's try to ease things here, Let's run the football,

(04:53):
let's established linscreamge.

Speaker 3 (04:54):
No, this was man.

Speaker 1 (04:55):
We got a answer that was that was ten minutes
down our throat. That was always version of the draw
all the way down. So that really played into Ohio
State and took that off the table, and Ohio State
has just been terrific since then. Notre Dame absolutely needed
that touchdown to have any kind of make the fourth quarter,
make anything look any good here in the next week. Yeah,

(05:15):
the hope that was on that first, you know, me
selfishly looking at it, not only because I picked Notre
Dame like potentially a fool?

Speaker 4 (05:22):
Here would you upset by a perfect weekend? Otherwise four
and oh this should be a terrible way to be terrible.

Speaker 3 (05:29):
I was perfect this week. I was.

Speaker 1 (05:30):
If you listened to me, you went undefeated in NFL
picks this weekend. Wait a second, as long as well
hang on, the Textans are playing, you went undefeated if
you listen to me, wait for it. Wait textans are
wait for it. Just would you just wait for it? Frostburg?

Speaker 3 (05:46):
Just wait?

Speaker 1 (05:47):
The Chargers aren't playing either. Okay, you would have been undefeated.
If you listen to me this weekend football picks, you
would have gone four and oh. All you had to
do was listen to me. Yeah, so I had listen
and then just go the opposite way of what I
just picked. Undefeated, defeated undefeated, or just listen to me.

Speaker 3 (06:10):
You did it?

Speaker 1 (06:10):
Because you went opposite me. That's the only reason you
did what you do. That's what you do.

Speaker 3 (06:17):
Yes, you did?

Speaker 1 (06:18):
You are you hate you hate my family, my wife's
family in Detroit, all right, you hate dan Quinn, but
somehow you picked him anyway, So I know that was
not what you want to do.

Speaker 3 (06:26):
What do you things about dan Quinn?

Speaker 4 (06:28):
All the time?

Speaker 3 (06:29):
Gave up one hundred and fifty eight Jordan, Here he
is in the NFC.

Speaker 1 (06:35):
Men, you hate you hate him, you hate my family,
and you still win again.

Speaker 3 (06:39):
So now I know you.

Speaker 4 (06:40):
I tell you we're going to come back on the Lions.
For all the trick plays uh and chicanery through the year,
you just what just went the opposite It just went
the No, it's not true. I just thought I was
just right. That would be No, you went the opposite way.

Speaker 1 (06:54):
You need to give reasons when when you said I'm
going out one of those shows that you said.

Speaker 3 (06:59):
Here's a pick. Who do you like? I like the
other team? Why? I don't know.

Speaker 4 (07:04):
Look, I leave that the homer where they might do
that just randomly name a team.

Speaker 1 (07:13):
Now you see the thing is I always thought that
that would be a great gambling strategy.

Speaker 3 (07:18):
Now hear me out on this.

Speaker 1 (07:18):
Okay, sure is that if you're a beat and lots
of we're all bad gamblers, right, if you're a bad gambler.
Now I've had a great hot year picking football games.
This was a screeching halt. But like, if you're a
bad gambler and you lose money, can you be a
great gambler by just saying, Okay, this is what I
think for this game, and then just go the opposite,
Just bet the opposite.

Speaker 3 (07:38):
Would you win? You know what would you win?

Speaker 4 (07:40):
You might need would you would you win if that
has a small steak and have that over the course
of next season.

Speaker 1 (07:46):
I'm just saying, like, you know, here's what I think.
And instead of that, I'm going the other way. Like
when I when I lock in, what do you want?
I like this game?

Speaker 3 (07:52):
Why?

Speaker 1 (07:53):
Because I think this is gonna happen, and this is
gonna happen. This is gonna happen. Okay, great, are you
ready to make your bet?

Speaker 3 (07:57):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (07:57):
Give me the other team and that's my bet. Wait,
why because I'm going opposite of what I did. I
wonder if that's if that can be a successful gambling strategy.

Speaker 3 (08:06):
But what's curious right. You know.

Speaker 4 (08:08):
On top of that, it's like I had a pretty good
year picking against the spread. I can show the documentation
off it, but I had no money on the line
because it was for giggles. Right, just all right, here's
the line, just like the Houston Kansas City game. Well,
if you lost on it, then you didn't get the
right line because that line was sitting at eight and
a half all week long. And then people are like, well,

(08:29):
it's nine and a half. It's like if you got
any wait, it was nine and a half.

Speaker 1 (08:32):
But but that it's always what what did it go
off at?

Speaker 5 (08:35):
Right?

Speaker 1 (08:35):
That's always wait, went off at nine and a half?
So off, but you might have gotten it early. Yeah,
but sobody, But what do you know about talking about
the game?

Speaker 3 (08:43):
Hey, this is either.

Speaker 1 (08:44):
A really devastating win for you, or it's an incredibly
devastating loss, or it's an incredible win, or it might
not be either.

Speaker 3 (08:52):
So you have to pick something. You know, you can't
just say hey either it's well, and you can't.

Speaker 4 (08:55):
Really is not the specificity of it anyway, because they
still quote frown on that. Meanwhile, I'll go one of
these Meanwhile, go go to this website, right, now and
make your names on the next thing. But the curiosity
in this game was would the man demand coverage for
Notre Dame be be enough? Right with all the wide receivers,

(09:17):
with all of the options that you have. For Ohio State,
would they have enough in the secondary? We've lauded the
style they've played with all year long for Notre Dame,
and the answers no, because there seems to always be
an extra man. So like they haven't been able to
get pressure up front on Howard clean pocket all day
long without bringing an extra guy, and there it's just

(09:38):
becomes the Swiss Army Knight and it becomes the right
pick your poison? Which guy is Howard gonna single out
on a given throw? So yeah, it's it's a game
in theory. We'll see if we can get a good
fourth quarter here live Live betting got up to twenty
four for twenty four and a half.

Speaker 3 (09:56):
Really down.

Speaker 1 (09:58):
Yeah, so now you're feeling you're feeling okay, I feel
a little bit better if you got in there. Yeah,
where do we sit right now? First down for Ohio State.
They were just faced a third and short. They were
able to convert, so they have the football up thirty
one fifteen over Notre Dame a minute and a half
to go in the third quarter. Look, if Notre Dame
is going to win this game, it needs to be

(10:19):
goose eggs on the scoreboard for Ohio State the rest
of the way. Really, I mean really, Ohio State is
one score of any kind away from clinching this game,
all right, I mean it could be a safety, could.

Speaker 3 (10:30):
Be a rouge, a ruge, could be a rouge.

Speaker 1 (10:32):
Right, and kick it off the net comes down, I said,
you might have to explain to people what a rouge rouges.

Speaker 3 (10:37):
The Canadian football is still going, I mean, if you're.

Speaker 4 (10:39):
A but I don't But I don't know how much
people are.

Speaker 3 (10:43):
Really in tune with the rules of Canadian football.

Speaker 4 (10:45):
People don't know the rules of most of the pro
games they're watching from the United States.

Speaker 3 (10:51):
When do we go for two points? Let me look
that up. Oh really, that didn't go. No, it's the.

Speaker 4 (10:54):
Blackjack card you buy for ninety nine cents in Vegas.

Speaker 3 (10:57):
I mean, you don't figure this out.

Speaker 1 (10:59):
So this I mean they need and Ohio State's got
the football right now at their own forty yard line.
It needs to be goose eggs. If it's goose eggs
the rest of the way. Yeah, well, any score thirty
four to fifteen, that'll do it. Because you're right now,
you're talking about Notre Dame getting two scores and two
point conversions and shutting Ohio State out. And that's a
really difficult thing. And as I say this, Notre Dame

(11:23):
just commits a really bad penalty. Marcus Freeman is ready
to throw up on the sideline. It was a second
and long for Ohio State. Ohio State throws a screen
pass and it doesn't go and wow. One of the
defensive linemen takes two full steps and pushes Will Howard,
who then plays dead. Well Will Howard, okay, Unlike Patrick Mahomes,

(11:47):
Will Howard was actually pushed and fell to the ground.
It was an awful penalty. It was two full steps.
Obin takes two full steps before he pushes Will Howard,
who goes to the ground. It is a fifteen yard penalty.
Now a first down for Ohio State on the Notre
Dame forty seven yard line, like they're they're one play
away from getting the football back. I get your And

(12:10):
that's the thing is I get your frustrated. I understand
I understand what's been going on all game, and you're
losing it. Boy, you just want to put a hint
on a guy that's, you know, one pass away from
having a perfect day.

Speaker 3 (12:20):
I get it, I get it. But when you're two
steps away, you can't.

Speaker 1 (12:24):
You can't go after him. I mean, you didn't even
get a good hit him. So much daylight on him,
but you know what I mean, it was a shove.
It's like it's not even a good hint. Yeah, but
you can't do it.

Speaker 3 (12:32):
You can't.

Speaker 4 (12:33):
No, No, it's a terrible it's a terrible decision. I'm
just saying, like the frustration that you talk about the
greatness that we've seen from this Ohio State offensive line
taking care of business and running the lot of scrimmage
has been there all night long, uh, chunk yardage on
run plays and obviously Howard working from a clean pocket.

Speaker 3 (12:51):
I get it.

Speaker 4 (12:52):
You're frustrated that you haven't gotten there. Guess what, you
didn't get there either, because you didn't. It's not like
you were one step away and then you drilled him.
But if you're gonna take the fifteen yard penalty, you
might as well go, you know, get get to the
rib cage at that point in stead of a half
ass shove.

Speaker 3 (13:07):
To where he goes to the ground. But it's plain
as day.

Speaker 1 (13:11):
I always think, I see what you did right there,
plain as days he did. I mean, I always think, well,
eventually at some point defensive players are gonna understand, Hey,
can't can't go after the quote? Yeah, yeah, no, no, No,
it's still gonna happen, Still gonna happen, Still gonna go after.

Speaker 4 (13:24):
It's still gonna do it. I know you can't, still
gonna do it, but I only touched him up.

Speaker 1 (13:28):
Still good enough, Still gonna do it. Wow, Exit out
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Speaker 3 (14:01):
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Speaker 1 (14:11):
Subwaysurfers great? Hey, you know you know where it takes place?
Where in the subway? Yeah shocker. So coming up next,
we'll have more on Ohio State and Notre Dame and
headed to the fourth quarter Ohio State driving are they
putting the ball away? Plus we get into Lamar Jackson
and the conversation that you haven't heard all day that

(14:33):
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away from the National Championship game being over thirty one
to fifteen. Ohio State had the lead and they were driving.

(16:35):
They had a bad penalty on Notre Dame where Notre
Dame took to Obi took two extra steps and hit
Will Howard became a first down for Ohio State. Ohio
State throws a screen pass that goes for a long
game right the Egbuka goes for twenty four yards and
falling down like he's falling down it is. It is

(16:57):
not even a half se like maybe a quarter of
a second away from the game being over, because he's
going down around the twenty yard line. Even if Ohio
State doesn't get a touchdown, they kick a field goal
and that's it. But the ball gets punched out just
before his knee hits the ground. And Ohio State gives
up the football and Notre Dame gets it again another
quarter second away. It was from the game being over,

(17:20):
and now Notre Dame is still sort of alive. They
are driving as well. That their faced with a fourth
down right now, a fourth and five from just inside
the thirty five yard line of Ohio State. You could
say this is a rubber hit the road play and
a game saving play and Riley Leonard's able to complete
it for a first down. So here's Notre Dame Greathouse

(17:41):
with a big grab again, went in doubt, go to Greathouse.
He has had a big game, He's had a big
second half. So now Notre Dame has the ball inside
the Ohio State twenty yard line down two. Scores out
that he touched down two touchdown two. But wow, I
mean you're talking about just hold onto the football and
the game is likely over, and instead it's punched out

(18:02):
and Notre Dame has life.

Speaker 4 (18:03):
Me getting ready to hit the ground to punch out
another to the long highlight reel of why Peanut Tillman
should be going to the Hall of Fame. Former Bear
and now federal agent Peanut Tillman.

Speaker 1 (18:16):
Uh and do you think Peanut Tillman when he when
he when he grabs a guy and when theyre when
when he grabs god Red like he does the Peanut.

Speaker 3 (18:22):
Poet, he does like whatever's yeah whatever.

Speaker 1 (18:24):
The criminal is running away and he grabs him with
the left hand on the left shoulder, and the criminal
turns and then he punches out whatever. He says. It's
a big swipe either when he's stolen his phone, any
kind of weapon. I mean it's gone like a big
briefcase with the nuclear codes in it or something. Whatever
it is, because you know, could be the nuclear football,
you know, Peanut Tillmany. You never he punches out the
nuclear football. Oh my goodness, it's loose. The nuclear football

(18:47):
is loose. Peanut Tialban's falling on it. First striped shirt
comes running out. I like this cut and print. There's
one for the next movie.

Speaker 4 (18:59):
But yeah, moving the ball well once again, because if
nothing else, you're you're gonna end up with a field goal.
Try at a minimum taking care of the football, of course,
but you're also gonna run another three minutes off the clock.

Speaker 3 (19:10):
Right. That's the other part is that you.

Speaker 4 (19:12):
You shorten the fourth quarter along the way here and
now we're looking at a big possession, still a lot
that needs to happen, but you're staying there's still a chance.
And this game's not over because when we were getting
ready to come on air, let's let's be honest about it,
like a right national title game, Ohio State, they're loaded,
it's done not so fast.

Speaker 1 (19:33):
I really a quarter of a second from being over
because you see his head clearly, isn't it. But but
his knee is maybe I don't know what, not even
ten inches from the ground. Not even maybe you can
see that it's off the ground. Controversy there, we tell
you the truth with all all the calls here, right,
the Notre Dame, the bad penalty was a penalty to
extend the Ohio State drive. His knee is no more

(19:54):
than tended because he's actually falling when he's when he's
going trying to go like he's actually falling down. So
it's not like he you know, he's hitting, he's like
he and he's that close to the ground and the
ball is punched out and now here's Notre Dame second
and goal inside the ten yard line, trying to cut
this Ohio State lead to one score.

Speaker 3 (20:13):
All of a sudden, all the Ryan Day haters have
gotten back on their computers and they're amending the letters
that they'd already been writing.

Speaker 1 (20:21):
They're still gonna be upset if somehow Ohio State wins
a national championship. You're gonna get maybe not have maybe
a good one out of every three Ohio State fans.
It's gonna be three Ohigh State fans a lie and say, hey,
how do you feel about this? First o Higo State
fans gonna say, won the national title, Man, it's awesome.
Second one's gonna say, we won the national champion it's awesome.
Third one's gonna say, eh, we lost to Michigan. That's

(20:43):
gonna be at least that's good base. That's gonna be that.
But we lost the Michigan that's great, But we lost
the mass.

Speaker 4 (20:49):
So that's that's the side of a healthy fan base
that you still have to have. Everything else could go
go right, but it didn't go one hundred percent right,
so you gotta be salty about it.

Speaker 3 (20:59):
That's good.

Speaker 1 (20:59):
So we'll have more from this game coming up in
a bit again, Notre Dame knocking on the door. Steve
de Seger will have more in what's trending coming up
in a couple of minutes. But look, coming off this
huge week in the NFL, so many big storylines to
get to, none bigger because we called it. I told
your Friday. The storyline I'm looking forward to the most
is that the loser of the game between Josh Allen
and Lamar Jackson is going to be Oh they're overrated,

(21:22):
they stink. Oh they stare it no matter what happens. Oh,
they stink, they stink, they stink. Okay, so now obviously
the Ravens lose. Mark Andrews drops the two point conversion
that would have sent the game to overtime, and now
all that's out there, all the boo birds are out
there for Lamar Jackson.

Speaker 3 (21:38):
Two turnovers in the first half, Marta.

Speaker 1 (21:40):
Yeah, it wasn't Lamar Jackson's best game, but still faced
with the football, you know, ninety yards from from the
end zone, he drives them down for a touchdown, They score,
and it's a two point conversion away from tying the game.

Speaker 3 (21:58):
Now I want to say two things about this. He
did what he was supposed to do.

Speaker 1 (22:01):
I got him down there, scored a touchdown through the
pass to Mark Andrews, right, and if you want to
be mad at Lamar Jackson, oh, go to have the touchdown?

Speaker 3 (22:08):
What had the touchdown?

Speaker 1 (22:09):
Let me just say this first of all, if that happened, right,
even if Mark Andrews catches that ball, Josh Allen's got
ninety seconds and two timeouts. Sure, how do you think
that's gonna end? All I can say, you think that's well?

Speaker 4 (22:21):
And I put this on Twitter because let me help
you here, is that your team had given up six
points in the second half, and he can.

Speaker 1 (22:27):
Said, well, they gave up twenty one in the first half. Yeah,
seven of them came after a twenty four yard drive
caused by Lamar Jackson.

Speaker 2 (22:35):
Bumble.

Speaker 4 (22:36):
Yeah, okay, So the assumption, what would you rather have?

Speaker 3 (22:41):
Tie ball game?

Speaker 4 (22:42):
And this guy's got to go drive them into where
bass can kick a field going. Yeah, he's got a
big leg, but is it greater than Hey, we have
to convert an on side kick?

Speaker 3 (22:52):
What is it? Three three point eight percent?

Speaker 4 (22:55):
And then we've got to do it, and then I've
got to trust Justin Tucker.

Speaker 3 (22:59):
Yeah. No, so Mark Andrews, everybody trying to absolve him.

Speaker 1 (23:03):
No, no, Well, which is why he doesn't talk to
anybody lost the game because that but no, no, no,
but we catch it.

Speaker 3 (23:09):
No.

Speaker 1 (23:09):
But but if he does catch it, it's Josh Allen
ninety and I've seen that movie so many.

Speaker 4 (23:14):
Times and his look. Nobody's a bigger Josh Allen supporter
than I am. But that's been used the last twenty
four hours quite a bit to try to Oh.

Speaker 3 (23:23):
I mean, we like Mark.

Speaker 1 (23:24):
Andrews, great player, good guy from all accounts, one of
the shining examples of all that's right with our sporting world.

Speaker 3 (23:32):
It's his fault.

Speaker 1 (23:33):
No, obviously you should have got and he had the
fumblest one to all those. But what I'm saying is
that it's not like if he catches that ball, they
win the game. Right, if he catches that ball, at best,
you're going to overtime. Sure, maybe now you went from
having a chance to keep playing to losing, But it's
not like we went from winning to losing. You went
from okay, now we don't have the football, we're giving

(23:54):
it back to them. And the best quarterback outside of
the guy on our sideline is you know has but
you at least two yards and whereby you don't have one.

Speaker 3 (24:02):
But if you have one time out and they can
kneel the ball out. But it wasn't. But it wasn't
a win or lose. It wasn't a It wasn't a
we win or we lose.

Speaker 1 (24:10):
Its well, mean time, we have a chance to keep going,
right that that's where we at least get to play
some more meaningful football. Yeah, as opposed to, Hey, look
there's josh Aahen kneeling down. But this is something you
haven't heard all day about Lamar Jackson, and it's it's
it's the truth. When it comes to how you view
him as a quarterback. Is he great? Absolutely? Is he

(24:30):
a Hall of Famer? Absolutely? Why can't he get over
the hump? Why can't Lamar Jackson get to the super Bowl?
I'll tell you because when you're not the best team
in your conference, it is hard to get to the
super Bowl.

Speaker 3 (24:44):
Look at the AFC.

Speaker 1 (24:45):
Since Lamar Jackson's come into the league, right, We've had
the end of the Patriots dynasty, the Chiefs dynasty one time.
And since Lamar's come into the league, has there been
a team other than the Chiefs or the Patriots, who
were the two best teams in the conference for the
last twenty years make it to the super Bowl when
the Bengals won in Burrowhead a couple of times is

(25:05):
not just me being able to say Burrowhead. You want
to go back to the beginning of the two thousands, right,
you had the Patriots dynasty, and then you went from
the Patriots being the best team for the better part
of twenty years, and then the Chiefs took over and
they've been to four Super Bowls since the Patriots stopped going.
So you're talking about the two best teams in the
conference are taking up three quarters to four fifths of

(25:28):
all Super Bowl appearances. And when Lamar has been in
the league one year, the best team in the AFC
didn't make it right because the Chiefs were still better
than the Bengals. Bengals were hot Borough wins the game.
Mcfeersoon makes the fifty yarder. But when you're not on
the best team, it's hard. And a game like yesterday
where Lamar Jackson turns the ball over twice in the

(25:48):
fridge hasn't done that in what five years? When he
doesn't play an A plus level, you're not going to
win because the rest of your team is.

Speaker 3 (25:56):
Not good enough.

Speaker 1 (25:57):
Whereas for the Patriots, hey Brady could have a pedestrian
game and guess what, patri find a way to win
because their defense is really good.

Speaker 3 (26:04):
They'd run the football well. Same thing from the Chiefs.

Speaker 1 (26:06):
Hey, Mahomes might not have the best game, but hey,
they're gonna be clutching the fourth quarter. The defense is
gonna make plays. You couldn't trust the Ravens defense to
make plays. The offense is not you know, doesn't have
people that can really pick it up. If Lamar Jackson
doesn't play well, if you're not on the best team
in the conference, it is hard. It's hard. So I'm
not making an excuse for him. I'm just saying, look
at the reality, right since he's come into the league

(26:27):
one time, a team that wasn't the best in the
conference made it because the Patriots were the best team
when he came into the league. Super Bowl, Super Bowl,
Brady leaves the air of the Patriots over. But there's Mahomes, Mahomes, Mahomes, Mahomes, Mahomes.
The Chiefs were then the best team. The Ravens have
never been the best team in the AFC. Never, And
when you're not, look how hard it is to get
to the Super Bowl. And so this is why Lamar

(26:49):
has not been there.

Speaker 3 (26:50):
Yes.

Speaker 1 (26:50):
Has he had really good playoff games, yeah? Has he
had okay playoff games, yeah? But the bottom line is,
even when he doesn't have an A plus game, you're
not gonna win because your team is not that good.
That's why Lamar Jackson hasn't gotten to the Super Bowl.

Speaker 3 (27:05):
Well. Taking the ball out of Derek Henry's hand seems pretty.

Speaker 4 (27:10):
Curious and not giving him an opportunity to continue to
sledge hammer in frigid temperatures and to make things a
little easier a little more Lamar Jackson design runs. He
carried the ball six times in that game. It's much
like last year. We questioned a lot of the play
calling and decision making by the Baltimore offense and coordinator

(27:32):
and they got fired because they didn't run the ball
in the second half of that game. In Baltimore radio,
I was telling you earlier. I checked in with one
of my guys. I go, hey, what's the biggest thing? Goes, well,
Harbass sucks. Lamar can't get over. I go how far
before he actually got to Andrew? He goes, you know,
if folks just kind of pushed that off to the side,

(27:52):
it was everything else and what we couldn't do. So
the question for John Harbaugh is does he deserve the
same treatment as Mike Tomlin at this point in terms
of winning a big one.

Speaker 3 (28:02):
But we'll put that aside for a moment.

Speaker 4 (28:04):
Yeah, Look, you had an opportunity to go and win
this game, right. You gave up a couple of bad
turnovers early, the interception whatever the miscommunication was, the air
mailing it that he did, and the fumble is just
a terrible play on a million levels to set up
a short field. But all in you still had the

(28:25):
puncher's chance and your defense did its job against Josh Allen.
Josh Allen did not look like a superhero yesterday. Right,
one hundred and twenty seven passing yards, he finishes just
twenty rushing yards. But he's a bulldozer in the red zone,
so you're able to do that. I still question that
third down call and then kicking the field goal, but

(28:46):
that and to even open the door, but that's a
whole other discussion for another time. With Lamar Jackson, you're
playing at a superman level. I think you've made the
argument before talking about the A list games that you
would get all season long from a Peyton Manning or
Drew Brees. And then when things get ratcheted up, the
rest of your squad's got to come with you.

Speaker 3 (29:07):
And they're certainly there. Jay Flowers is in.

Speaker 4 (29:09):
There, excuses, reasons, whatever when we talk about it, because
he was on even all year long, so it wasn't
like he was a nine catch a game guy that
suddenly isn't there. But the Lamar Jackson, Yeah, the margin
for error was not there against his Buffalo squad on
the road. And folks can do whatever they want about
the Chiefs, whine about the Chiefs however you want just win.

Speaker 1 (29:32):
Exit out, about a Fresco exit, Swallen Dome, the Jason
Smith Show with my best friend Mike Carmen.

Speaker 3 (29:37):
Something different.

Speaker 1 (29:37):
But when you understand Alwa, he's never been on the
best team and it's really hard and when you're not
the best team to get there. Because you're saying, these
are two dynasties that were taught. We went from the
Patriots dynasty to the Chiefs dynasty. Already, you know that
that opportunities to go we're going to be limits can
once every couple of year, three four years, if you're lucky,
if you're lucky.

Speaker 4 (29:57):
Yeah, I'd also saw the lot of comparisons to the
well here we're banning and hear whatever, like you're not guaranteed.
You know, you brought up the car the your guy,
Joe Burrow, I always want to make him Carson Palmer
for some reason, Joe Burrow and all those folks that
thought it was gonna be the long run of Hail
to the Bengals. Yeah, awful hard. Isn't it awful hard

(30:18):
to get back? That looks like a blip on the
radar where we're sitting right now. Why because you're in
the same damn division as Lamar Kadson and that Pittsburgh
team that's just.

Speaker 1 (30:28):
Good enough to be vexing exit out by a Fresca
exit swollen down The Jason Smith Show with Mike Carmon
Live from the Tirech dot Com Studios. So a lot
more NFL on the way, big weekend to get to,
but first special delivery.

Speaker 3 (30:41):
Steve to Sagres tell us what's trending.

Speaker 1 (30:43):
People say he is the Ryan Day of Fox Sports Radio.
He can do a lot of great things, but one
tiny thing goes wrong.

Speaker 3 (30:51):
And everybody hates him.

Speaker 6 (30:52):
Yeah, I've just been yelling at Lou Holtz for no reason.
That's why it's not a bad way to pass time.

Speaker 3 (30:58):
Though.

Speaker 6 (30:59):
By the way, they are on cable doing Lou holds
impersonations on the sideline during the game. That's how lopsided
this thank got National Championship game in college football going
on in Atlanta. Ohio State led thirty one to seven
in the third quarter, scoring points on their first five drives.
Thirty one to fifteen is now the lead with under
six and a half minutes left in the fourth quarter.

(31:20):
The buck guys on the opening play of the fourth
did fumble long drive for Notre Dame to get a
first and goal at the eight. They settled for a
short field goal attempt, no good off the upright. Ohio
State has just punted six to twenty five left in
the national title game. Buckey's up thirty one to fifteen.
Quinch On Judkins three total touchdowns for Ohio State, nine

(31:43):
kerries ninety six yards. The Chicago Bears new head coach
is Ben Johnson, who is Detroit's offensive coordinator. The past
three years, the Lions were the league's top scoring offense.
Former Saints head coach Dennis Allen is due to be
a candidate to be his defensive coordinator. The colts new
defensive coordinate is lou Anarumo, ex of the Bengals. Indies
defense was ranked twenty ninth this past year. Tennessee's new

(32:05):
special teams coordinator is John Fossil from Dallas to the NBA.
Charlotte beat Dallas today one ten, one oh five despite
thirty three points from Kyrie Irving. The late game's about
to start with the Clippers hosting a Bulls team that's
lost five in a row and the Pelicans, with thirty
seconds left in overtime, lead Utah one twenty one one nineteen.

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Utah was up twenty to three after less than five
minutes in this game, led by twenty five later might
be losing it overtime, and Zion Williamson of the Pelicans
is out due to illness. In college hoops, Georgetown won
at Villanova on a last second layup, sixty four sixty three.
Easy wins in college basketball in New Jersey today as
number one UCLA beat up Baylor, Number seven Texas all

(32:50):
over number eight Maryland NHL Saint Louis in a shootout
wins at Vegas five to four and the Blue Jays
are signing outfielder Anthony Son.

Speaker 3 (32:59):
Tenderback to you, Thank you, Steve O.

Speaker 1 (33:01):
The Jason Smithshore with Mike Carmon live from the tirerack
dot Com Studios. So, since we last left you in
this game, Notre Dame driving. They were faced with a
fourth and long. They try a field goal to cut
the lead to thirty one to eighteen. Make it a
still a two score game, but a touchdown two point
in a field goal, except in true Chicago Bears fashion,
it jinks off the left, upright.

Speaker 3 (33:23):
Ohio State takes over kills some clock.

Speaker 1 (33:25):
Now Notre Dame has the football back with about five
and a half left to go, down by two touchdowns
and two to two point conversions. We'll have more on
this game coming up, and also straight ahead, Hey, the
guy we thought who was the best head coaching candidate
and all of the NFL got a job of the
team we thought he was going to be to get
the job with.

Speaker 3 (33:45):
Is it the right move he That's next Jason and
Mike Fox.

Speaker 2 (33:51):
pm Pacific.

Speaker 3 (34:01):
Full Sports Radio. Sorry, I'm watching the game.

Speaker 1 (34:05):
Jason alab Tischer is watching the something I've never I've
never said before.

Speaker 3 (34:10):
Alex Tischer is watching the game. Jason, isn't it weird
that I'm actually here for the game? It is miss Yeah,
first one in a long long time.

Speaker 1 (34:17):
Yeah, I mean just watch him, that's why. Yeah, he
forgot the game. Usually hosts a party. Yeah if something
must have fallen through this year. But he's watching the game.
Why I'm watching the game. Well, we'll get to Ben
Johnson and the Bears coming up. However, Hey, hey, we
got a game here, which makes Marcus Freeman's decision to
kick a field goal a few minutes ago really not great.

(34:37):
But no, tre Dame gets a big look down to
down two scores. You need a touchdown and two two
point conversions to tie this game. What do you do
if you're Riddey Leonard, I'm gonna throw to Jaden Greathouse,
who makes another big catch in the end zone. Forget
about oh, Riddy Leonard's improving his draft stock and oh
you know yet, Will Howard's approving his d No, dude,

(34:58):
but bleeping Jaden Greathhouse and come on, five for one
eleven two touchdowns. He's been great in the playoff, and
they run a trick play for the two point conversion.
They run a little bit of a flip wide receiver
option pass all alone in the back of the end
zone for the two point conversion, and Notre Dame now

(35:18):
trails buy a touchdown.

Speaker 3 (35:20):
It is thirty one twenty three.

Speaker 1 (35:22):
They have all three timeouts left, four to ten to
go in the fourth quarter. And again I'm gonna go
back to what I said a few minutes ago. This
game was a fraction of a second away from being over,
but Notre Dame forces a fumble on a long pass.
It was gonna give Ohio State the ball deep in
Notre Dame territory, up sixteen, and from that play on,

(35:43):
Notre Dame has had life and now they're down by eight.
Now to get back to the conversation, we had a
few minutes ago, down thirty one to sixteen, Marcus Freeman
and Notre Dame face with a fourth and goal from
the Ohio State nine yard line, and he elects to kick.

Speaker 3 (35:59):
A field thirty one.

Speaker 1 (36:01):
Thirty one fifteen is a score and the election field
that would turn it into a thirteen point game. Which
really you sit back and go what because it's still
a two touching chugdown game.

Speaker 4 (36:14):
Yeah, and you still no matter what, you still need
to a touchdown at two and two field.

Speaker 3 (36:18):
It's a mess.

Speaker 1 (36:19):
Now you don't need two touchdowns and two two point conversions,
but you still need two touchdowns. You still need to
get up and down the field. Stop the up and
downfield twice. I don't understand the philosophy behind that. Especially
it's not fourth and third. I don't care if it's
fourth in a mile. You kind of have to go
for it. You're at the eight yard line, Yeah, it's
it's fourth and goal from the nine. How do you
I get that? You had three plays, it didn't get anywhere,

(36:40):
but uh, you need It's midway through the fourth quarter.

Speaker 3 (36:43):
Of the National Championship game. What do you think is
gonna have you kick a field goal? Okay?

Speaker 5 (36:47):
Great?

Speaker 1 (36:47):
Oh I say it's gonna say, oh, you just took
five minutes off the clock up for for a field goal.

Speaker 3 (36:51):
Oh awesome, like Marcus Freeman again clock management. I do
the class every year. It's twenty grand. Now it's gonna
be twenty five grand.

Speaker 1 (36:59):
A co wh' because you know it's a buyer's market
twenty five grand.

Speaker 3 (37:03):
A coach come out to understand.

Speaker 1 (37:04):
When to go for two, when to kick a field goal,
when to not, when to call time out, when to not.
We're branching out now with my end of season weekend
that coaches can come and attend and I teach you
all about how to manage a clock in the final
four or five minutes of the game.

Speaker 3 (37:21):
Yeah, it's a question that still needs to be asked.

Speaker 4 (37:23):
I mean, they because they get stuck because he dooints
the field goal. Now they ended up forcing an Ohio
State punt, But three minutes.

Speaker 3 (37:33):
Elapsed off the clock.

Speaker 4 (37:34):
So you got the ball back with about six minutes left,
six play, eighty yard drive, make good on it right
plus two point conversion. But that's three minutes you're not
getting back talking about field position, et cetera. And now
you're still at an eight point game. Now we got
three seventeen Howard with a big run for a first down,
so we'll see how the defense holds up. But yeah,

(37:56):
as he ran out there, I did everything I could.
I even shut my microphone off to make sure I
didn't audibly curse on air as he trotted the kicker
out there because it made absolutely no sense.

Speaker 3 (38:08):
No, I don't know why. I mean, if it was
a way to cut it.

Speaker 1 (38:10):
If it was a sixteen point game and you try
to cut it to thirteen, which is what's going through
my head and the whole time, Oh kick its thirteen
to ten. If it's sixteen to thirteen, Uh no, if
it's thirteen to ten or to eleven, uh all right,
still let it, love it. But at least it's you
didn't need a field goal at the end, if you
had a touchdown, but this was sixteen to thirteen.

Speaker 3 (38:32):
It's I I didn't get that. I really didn't get that. No, hey,
you know what, maybe maybe karma godam oh, you're gonna
kick a field goal when you shouldn't be.

Speaker 1 (38:42):
I'm gonna make it hit the upright, and the football
gods came out to tell you.

Speaker 3 (38:45):
The football gods are funny that way.

Speaker 5 (38:46):
Man.

Speaker 3 (38:48):
Sometimes you need to be humbled.

Speaker 4 (38:50):
No, if we learned anything from the chic blank the
whole hogan, and sometimes you need to be humbled.

Speaker 3 (38:56):
Those are two things. No field goal for you. Uh Now,
who are the happiest p in the world? Ask me
that question. Who are the happiest people in the world.

Speaker 1 (39:03):
The happiest people in the world are the people who
got Notre Dame plus twenty seven in game bet.

Speaker 4 (39:09):
It was like plus twenty five and a half whatever
it got to plus.

Speaker 3 (39:13):
Twenty seven and a half.

Speaker 1 (39:15):
So if you got Notre Dame plus twenty seven and
a half early in the second.

Speaker 3 (39:18):
Half, you're feeling great right now.

Speaker 1 (39:20):
Man, You're like, yeah, look at me, look at the
confidence at Notre Dame.

Speaker 4 (39:24):
It's still Ryan Day. Give me take my money. I'd
love to know what the volume is on that. I'll
text firm and see what kind of info we can
get in terms of what kind of volume you get
on an in game betting thing where a line is
starting to creep.

Speaker 3 (39:39):
Out as far as it did.

Speaker 1 (39:40):
Dude, Ohio State fans right now are going I just
want the game to end.

Speaker 3 (39:44):
I don't know how to feel.

Speaker 1 (39:45):
I love my team, I love Ryan Day, but he
could blow this and we lost to Michigan. I can't
stand Ryan Day. What am I rooting for? Am I
rooting for us to hold on to win? I'm I
rooting for Ryan Dason. Get the guy out, because even
if we win, I'm not gonna be happy. Because we
still lost to Michigan. Like Ohio State fans right now
have no idea.

Speaker 4 (40:02):
What's noying is they just showed a shot of Ryan
Day on the sideline. He was all rosy cheeked and
fresh faced when it was a big lead. And now
that's an eight point game and they call a quarterback
draw going to the outside and he gets taken down
at the line of scrimmage, setting up a huge, huge
third down. Ryan Day looks like this game has elapsed

(40:25):
like three days. All right, this is one of those.
All right, you're a method actor and you've stayed awake
for three days because you've got a call that you
got to know.

Speaker 3 (40:33):
The weight of the world is on your shoulders. Oh yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (40:37):
So Ohio State has run the ball the last couple
of plays. They run the ball with Will Howard. They
are set up with a big third down and eleven
with two forty five left to go. Wide receiver got
away with a huge hold on the outside. Just bear
hugg demand Notre Dame could be one third down stop
away from getting the football back at Ohio State. Nation

(40:59):
their head, they're gonna explode. Are we talking over time?
Are we crowning Ohio State. That's coming up next right here,
Jason and Mike Fox Sports Radio to Ryan Day to
Chip Kelly, they drop a hat. When it's third and
eleven and we can clinch a national championship. Let's throw
the ball to our best player. Doesn't matter if he's
a freshman, doesn't matter. Instead of hey, let's try to

(41:22):
go over the middle, let's try to get something for
a first down, Will Howard throws it up because Jeremiah Smith,
who is Ohio State's best player. Look, he came out
of high school a year ago, the number one recruit
in a wide receiving recruit in the country. They said,
we're gonna throw it to our best player and he
is wide open fifty yards downfield to play goes for

(41:43):
fifty seven.

Speaker 3 (41:44):
The ball was actually a.

Speaker 1 (41:45):
Little bit underthrown, or probably would have been setting walked
in because Smith had to stop a little bit. But
catching the ball was what he needed to do. So
instead of hey, it's fourth down, we're punting, they throw
it up deep. It's a risk, but it goes, and
you throw to your best player on a game on
a game changing play, and he had not had a
big game right very pedestrian type game so far. He

(42:09):
comes down with a big catch, and now Ohio State,
with less than a minute left to go, is set
to kick a field goal that would give them an
eleven point lead with just about thirty seconds left to
go for Notre Dame. Look, they're not gonna have hardly
any time anyway, but if this field goal goes, that's
gonna be it. If not, at least Notre Dame would
have thirty seconds to try to get down the field.

Speaker 3 (42:32):
Obligatory.

Speaker 4 (42:32):
Nod did the original line for this game, which was
nine all week, so you got that going as a
setup for the tribe. But you know, third and eleven,
we're all on our feet, getting out of our chairs, like,
all right, here's the big play. We'd seen the efficiency
of Ohio State on third down. I think it was
eight of ten over the course of the night, including
a couple of big plays from Howard with his arm,

(42:55):
and they go for the downs well, and that ball
hung up there forever and he's wide open, and you
see he's got the step. It's like, is the defender
going to be able to collapse? Like it's a great
theater that falls harmlessly into his arms and eventually down
and this.

Speaker 3 (43:13):
Is where we get our game ending situation.

Speaker 4 (43:15):
But Howard running down the field, they kept the ISO
on him, eyes as wide as can be because he
just made the money throw right there. Ryan Day, we
talked about him aging rapidly on the side. I think
was starting to come in on his beard. That's that's
what happened, And all of a sudden it just went
back to that perfect jet black just that fast.

Speaker 1 (43:37):
Oh yeah, No, he needs cucumbers for his eyes too,
like saying, man, some sleep, dude, right, But he.

Speaker 4 (43:43):
Held up really well when they were up big, Like,
the eyes looked okay, Cheruba, look on the cheeks nice
and rosie. And then all of a sudden the blood
drained from his face and he aged rapidly and then well,
I mean, that was the best sprint he's done in years.
I think going out on the sideline after that completion.

Speaker 1 (44:01):
Cucumbers on your eyelids, all of those amazing. The Jason
Smiths are with Mike Carbon live from the tire rack
dot Com Studios. It's gonna be academic. At this point,
Ohio State has just kicked the field goal, make it
a thirty four to twenty three lead. Fieldings good, Uh,
twenty six seconds left, Ohio State will be kicking the
ball off here. But look that that's gonna be it

(44:23):
and they're gonna be the national champions. Now, you know,
you know want a crazy story, you want a great story.
So this whole game, Ham's gonna be pissed. No, no, well yeah, okay,
I just keep telling Pam. Look, Michigan fans, what do
they like? I saw what did I see some people
writing this weekend? Michigan fans hoping for a meteor on
Monday night?

Speaker 3 (44:40):
Right? Uh?

Speaker 1 (44:41):
You know She's always like, who am I rooting for?
My knockcause you know Michigan. I said, well, listen, you
know one of them is gonna lose, right, that's what
one a You're gonna lose? No jeus, But I don't know,
but Notre Dame, Notre Dame, because she's grown up with
a great, healthy hatred for Notre Dame. But I said,
but the hate of Ohio State's got a gorge because, yees,
someone's would be big. Last week either when Penn State
was in the thing, I said, I know, but you
know one of them is gonna lose. You know, you
gotta let that hate out. Yeah, so today you want

(45:03):
this is a great story. Today we went to a
friend's house, uh this afternoon, and unfortunately it's two of
our friends. I coached soccer with him for a long
time there. Her mother lost her house in the fire
in the Palisades and so her and and his sister
and brother in law are staying with them, right. So,

(45:28):
and he's he's a great guy. He came to practice
a couple of times and I had he's a goalie coach.
I had him coach my goalie.

Speaker 3 (45:33):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (45:33):
He went to I think went to Wisconsin on a
on a on a scholarship and really great dude. And
so now they're all living with my friend and his
wife while they try to figure stuff out. So he
comes to me and says, and we're we come there
he goes. He goes, man, I'm so nervous about tonight.
I go why, and and my friend goes, I'll let
him tell you. And I said what, And he goes,
So I made this ten team parlay bet a year ago,

(45:56):
and I said what. He goes, I made a ten
team parlay bet and he just bet like just regular
run of the mill. He bet a combination of soccer
and football all the way through a ten team bet,
right ten team bet, and I said, oh, you just
take a look at it.

Speaker 3 (46:10):
He goes, look at this. I'm looking at it.

Speaker 1 (46:11):
It's like a you know, an EPL game from like
from like May, and then another game here, and then
he's got a couple of football games from the season.
He goes, I've hit on all of them, and I
need one more. And I'm scrolling through and I'm scrolling
through and I see, oh, you bet like Lions over
the Jaguars was or somebody over the Jaguars. I said, oh,
that was the first Mac Jones game. Okay, here, Oh
this is a game he bet the over in a
Packers game and it was Alik Willis game. I said, oh,

(46:33):
you won that one for the over because he overcame
way down and Milik will Have scored a bunch of
points and it came down to tonight.

Speaker 3 (46:38):
It was a five dollars bet. This is a year bet.
A year bet.

Speaker 1 (46:42):
He has Notre Dame money line to win the National Championship.
If Notre Dame had won this game, thirteen thousand dollars,
thirteen thousand dollars, if Notre Dame won the National Championship tonight.
A year of these bets. Now the reason I said
what they said, They're not going to call you to
try to have the bet because you don't have the points.

(47:03):
It's betting Notre Dame because he bet Notre Dame when
they lost in Northern Illinois, sure to you know, and
they were like thirty five to one at that point.
And now we a five dollars bet. He would have
won thirteen grand if Notre Dame had won.

Speaker 3 (47:15):
How about that? Did they? But did they? Well?

Speaker 1 (47:19):
Special delivery Steve de Seger has the big breaking news
right now. It's a final at the National Championship Ohio
State and Notre Dame.

Speaker 2 (47:26):
Is Overking news from Fox Sports.

Speaker 3 (47:29):
See what you got for us. The short answer to
the question is no.

Speaker 6 (47:32):
Ohio State beats Notre Dame thirty four twenty three. The
buck guys, who were up thirty one to seven in
the third quarter, scoring points on their first five drives tonight,
eventually Will Howard two hundred and thirty one yards passing
two scores, Quinchhn Judkins three total touchdowns. The Ohio State, remember,
although seated eighth, was ten and one until losing at

(47:52):
home to Michigan.

Speaker 3 (47:54):
Since then, they beat up Tennessee and.

Speaker 6 (47:55):
Number one Oregon easily and then eliminated Texas twenty eight
to fourteen in a game it was tied mid fourth quarter.
Most of this game was a round final score buck
Guy's thirty four twenty three.

Speaker 3 (48:06):
Thank you, Steve O. Now here's the thing.

Speaker 1 (48:10):
This is a game that a year ago, a year ago,
what I say about Ohio State. If they don't come
into this season as the overwhelming number one team in
the country, something is wrong. Well, they weren't number one,
but they were close, and they should have been most
talented roster in the game. This game is not a surprise,
all right, Ohio State and Notre Dame sounds great, But
there's a reason why this spread was nearly ten points,

(48:32):
one hundred million dollars roster. Ohio State is better everywhere.
They're better on offense, they're better on defense, They're deeper,
they have better recruits, they are better everywhere. This was
honestly closer than I thought it was going to be.
I thought it would be close a little while, and
Notre Dame who it was like Rocky and Rocky four.
No matter what you do, you can't you can't knock
them down. Can't knock them down, can't do it no

(48:52):
matter what. And they were going to keep it closer
a while, but eventually Ohio State's talent was going to
overwhelm them. And it probably would have if Notre Dame
doesn't get that fumble in, you.

Speaker 3 (49:04):
Know, late third quarter, that was gonna be in the game.
It'll play a game and.

Speaker 1 (49:09):
They're able to stay in it. But this is not
a surprise. This is not some magic potion. This is
not Hey, what did Notre Dame not do that? They
they should have done what. Ohio State was the better team.
It was a little bit closer, which I give Notre
Dame a lot of credit for. And but this was
the result we thought was gonna happen. Ohio State of
your national champions. Thirty four to twenty three is your final.

(49:31):
They're fourteen and two. They win it all.

Speaker 3 (49:33):
And this was the.

Speaker 1 (49:35):
Expected result from a year ago. It didn't go exactly
how they thought it was going to go. But here
we are at Ohio State of the champs.

Speaker 4 (49:42):
Yeah, first play at this fourth quarter, but either way,
the point being, you're just outside the red zone. If
nothing else, you're taking another three minutes off the clock.
The efficiency there, but we saw the big play and Smith,
who'd been quiet all all game, unlike you for catching
back Smith, why this Smith never got so much? He
did score the early walk in touchdown right after a

(50:04):
great drive, like because the opening opening salvo of this
right the eighteen play drive by Notre Dame, It's like, okay.

Speaker 3 (50:10):
We got something.

Speaker 4 (50:11):
And then Ohio State with a great counter eleven play
drive of their own seventy five yards. Smith did easy touchdown.
You've been quiet, four catches twenty five yards and then
you get that third and eleven play. I mean, that'll
live in infamy. Marcus Freeman's not gonna fore. He's gonna
be thinking about that for the next six Oh yeah, yeah, right,
you're playing man demand. But the man, the man on

(50:31):
the best player on their team, the guy, the guy
that should go back and say I want to go
pro right now is wide open for a huge game
that helps ice things. Just amazing resourcefulness and resiliency from
Notre Dame. Didn't They didn't quit because it would have

(50:52):
been very easy to hack it. And you pointed out
when it got up to twenty seven and a half
was the line at one point and just big play
and Leonard kept taking hits, kept getting back up, and
you know, thirty four twenty three year final, they covered
that big number. But you know, for the buck Eys,
it's what you expected. I just think a year ago

(51:13):
they wouldn't have been in this dance. They would have
been left down in the doorstep, just like Alabama. That's
all those other squads.

Speaker 1 (51:19):
Look, we'll get to the playoff and how the playoff
works and the changes that are gonna come for next year.
But because that's absolutely going to be a big part
of what we see from here and here on out.
But let me just say this now. With Ohio State
Ashy champions, you remember that old commercial that was on
TV that always says four out of five doctors recommend
crest right to for.

Speaker 4 (51:38):
Yeah, whatever brand it was, but yeah, there was twenty
percent that were just wild men.

Speaker 3 (51:42):
Four and five. It was like, well not five, five, No,
four out of five? What is that other fifth doctor?

Speaker 2 (51:46):
Right?

Speaker 3 (51:46):
Get paid by somebody else?

Speaker 1 (51:47):
Right?

Speaker 3 (51:47):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (51:47):
And I remember my teacher and my math teacher in
middle school. Someoney said you see that commercial. He goes, yeah, well,
here's how they do this. They go to the doctor
and they wave one hundred dollars bill in his face
and they go, you want to recommend and Crest everybody?

Speaker 3 (52:01):
Right?

Speaker 1 (52:01):
The doctor says yeah. They give them a hundred dollars
for the first four guys. They realize the fifth guy, Oh,
we got to make it sound ridiculous. We can't make
it sound ridiculous, so we go, you don't want to
recommend Crest for anybody with one hundred dollar bill in
his face. No, I don't recommend Crest. Okay, now have
the commercial. So I really if you.

Speaker 4 (52:17):
As a kid, you get someone coming in and talking
about payoffs and Pala Rodney, Dangerfield and back to school,
the math class.

Speaker 3 (52:24):
What do you want?

Speaker 1 (52:24):
I like that the math class. But I'm telling you
what I said last hour. If you line up now,
let's say three three Ohio State fans national right right now.
If I got three random Ohio State fans ranny random
ones right now, I lined them up in front of
me and I said, Okay, how do you guys feel
right now? How do you feel the first one's gonna go,

(52:45):
Oh my god, I can't believe we did it. It
was such a big game. It was so nerve wracking
and I didn't think we'd get there after losing the Michigan.

Speaker 3 (52:54):
But look at us. We've did it.

Speaker 1 (52:55):
We won won the national check. Now we got one
over Michigan. Now we got we won the most reason.

Speaker 3 (52:59):
One all right, great, thank you, thank you. That's great.
Second one, I say, hey, how do you feel?

Speaker 1 (53:04):
Oh, we won the title. We should have done this
all along. That's why we spent all the money. Ryan
Day is a great coach. Will Howard's a great quarterback.
I'm glad we got rid of Kyle McCord. I knew
we were good. We were the best team we want.

Speaker 3 (53:15):
I'm so excited. I'm getting so drunk. Thank you, that's great.
That's good. Okayond that's good. Third one, third one. I
would say, hey, how do you feel right now?

Speaker 1 (53:23):
And the third fan would go, yeah, yeah, we lost
to Michigan. That's that's exactly what a good porte of
the basic No, that's sure.

Speaker 4 (53:35):
And then he got me sitting over there as a
Northwestern guy going, day, thanks for the contribution to the
funds by winning the title. We lost to Michigan. We
still have a full share. We not like Oregon in
these others. Yeah, no, it might actually be more than
a third, especially the way this game closed out, like
you made him sweat, Like Ryan Dan Company, you made
him sweat. So those Ohio State fans might be a

(53:55):
little more uh more a cerbic.

Speaker 3 (53:57):
There might be more of them. I don't know any
Ryan Day is okay, he just won the national champion. Yeah,
I don't know. He opened the door and let him
back in the game.

Speaker 1 (54:06):
I'll give him Mulligan for this year, you know what,
I'll give what we can start. We can start fresh
next year. We can start to get all those losses
to Michigan. We can start fresh. That's Brad's what we'll do.

Speaker 3 (54:16):
Did they just hold up our fingers.

Speaker 1 (54:19):
Because right now, I guarantee you, Michigan social media are.

Speaker 3 (54:23):
Gonna say back to back Natty's.

Speaker 1 (54:25):
That's gonna go up there, back to back Natties for Michigan,
and that's gonna be.

Speaker 3 (54:31):
The jiff of Ryan Day, just going what happened at
the end of the game, when the fight was going
on and they're trying to plant.

Speaker 1 (54:37):
The flag, what happened? What happened that that that's how
that's gonna go. We don't have anything from Michigan football yet.

Speaker 3 (54:43):
Yeah, they're waiting.

Speaker 1 (54:43):
They're waiting, they'll be creating lying in wait exit help
of Fresco Exit swollen down The Jason Smith Show with
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Speaker 3 (54:52):
Few tax stops by.

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Speaker 1 (56:40):
The Jason Smith Show with My best friend Mike Harmon
Home live from the tire Rag dot Com studios as
Ohio State All speaking at the podium. Now, will Howard
allowed on the podium? Yeah, he fought his way up there,
this time wearing his National championship T shirt over his shoulder.

Speaker 3 (56:58):
Pads.

Speaker 4 (56:58):
How much you bet some and you're like, no, we
screwed him last time. He's got to get up there.
He's the quarterback.

Speaker 3 (57:03):
Let him up?

Speaker 1 (57:04):
Well, man, but come on, I'm just picturing uh Winona
Ryder from Stranger Things.

Speaker 3 (57:11):
Will Will let Will up, Let Will up.

Speaker 1 (57:14):
Uh, they're your national champions thirty four to twenty three
over note tra Dame joining us now I'm hot line
a man who also said a year ago, Uh, yeah,
High State's gonna be the best team, gonna win the
national title.

Speaker 3 (57:25):
He has stuck with it all the way through.

Speaker 1 (57:27):
I know he's been nervous a couple of times during
tonight's game, but the Buck guys come up with a win.
For the owner, editor proprietor of College Footballnews dot com.
You're one stop shopping for everything college football. It is
longtime friend of the show. Pete feu tech Pete, what's
up man? How's it going?

Speaker 5 (57:44):
You didn't even need to watch the season. I told
you like a year ago what was gonna happen. You
could have done so much else with your life, done
so much more. You could have painted, sculpted, you could
have you know, you know, helped out the baby seals.
But you know, we watched and we saw all this
and uh but yeah, you got this is what's great

(58:05):
about this is if you're Ryan Day, it's you know
that it's the cliche that those coaches love it when
their team wins the game and you know they got
the win, that they can yell at their team because
you know, they was too close and they made a
bunch of mistakes and doing Now the fan base gets
to do just that. They got their national championship and
they can still yell at Ryan Day for losing to

(58:27):
Michigan and making that way too close late and all
that kind of stuff.

Speaker 3 (58:30):
Yeah, no, they're gonna give a mulligan on this year. Mulligan.
Anybody got to do it next year. You got to
do everything next year.

Speaker 5 (58:37):
Yeah, but yeah, yeah, there's gonna be Yeah, you want
a national championship. I mean, but I mean it would
have been nicer if we had beaten Michigan, not even
losing to Oregon. That doesn't even factor in their heads.
You know, it is the it is the well we
have that loss and you know we wouldn't have been
there last year. It's like just everyone enjoyed this. If

(58:58):
you're a Buckeye fan, this is you won a national
championship with your turn. It's probably not going to be
your turn next year. It's all this kind of works.
But they were the more talented team, and it's just look,
Notre Dame at the worst, weirdest time they stopped being
Notre Dame. I mean, Marcus Freeman, I love you, but
what are you doing kicking the field goal? That's not

(59:21):
what It's not how you got here, you know, And
just why did they go? It went to Texas, They
ran the ball down Ohio, they'd throw it, and then
they stopped like it is the weirdest game plan for them.
And they're going to be kicking themselves over this loss
for a while because I don't think they win. But
they certainly did not help themselves with the way they played.

Speaker 1 (59:42):
You know, there's so many twists and turns to this game,
right you had the Yeah, I don't understand the Marcus
we talked about the Marcus Freeman fieldal attemt would have happened.
What's the purpose of cutting a game from sixteen to thirteen.
But in the end, I think even if Notre Dame
had not looked, they still got to go for it
on fourth and goal from the nine and get it
and then get the two point contusions. Yeah, but I

(01:00:02):
think there you know, for yes, a lot of questions
about Notre Dame and what they did, but I don't
know that that would have changed this outcome because still
Ohio State found a way to win.

Speaker 3 (01:00:10):
They won by eleven points. They clinched again.

Speaker 1 (01:00:13):
Even if all that happens, I'm still not sure that
Notre Dame finds a way to get all the way
back and win this.

Speaker 5 (01:00:18):
Oh no, I'm with you, But I mean, look, what
did this team do all year? They always they said
a historic mark. I think it's just that they came
out today that no one in the last ten years
scored more points off of turnovers. And they got the turnover,
you know, because they doesn't screw up. They finally get
that takeaway. And they always had this weird Uncanning neck

(01:00:40):
of making it. And I know how these great red
zone defense. But Riley Leonard, Yeah, I know, no one's
gonna think he should or Sanders of cam mord or anything,
but that guy can that guy was kind of slippery
in the pocket and make kept making play after play
after play. There's something to him at the next level,
I think, and get it. You have to make that
fourth down and you have to hit the two, and
you have to do it again. But again, that's not

(01:01:02):
what your brand is that they all year they've been
able to make those type of plays. And at the
very end there, man did Ohio States start to puck
her up fast and they got that play. But he again,
better team, more talent. They there really good right out
of the gate. But yeah, there even at least showed

(01:01:23):
that you know, this wasn't you know, some fluky team.
They were a real deal team that should have been there.

Speaker 4 (01:01:27):
It's funny on the giant pass play to Smith, We're
sitting in the studio, Pete and I'm like, there's a
safety over the top right right, No, no, and the
ball hangs up there forever. It's like, look, I like
chaos in between the white lines. You and I've been
doing this with Jason for a long long time, Like
really wanted that ball.

Speaker 3 (01:01:44):
To say a lot of bounds, you know, a lot.

Speaker 5 (01:01:50):
As a nation, we deserved a two point conversion just
at the very end with two seconds to go, But
what did we get? Instead? We got an easy pasy
cover there no problem. I mean, I don't know what
the answer is, but I do know that against the
best kick blocking team in the country, I guess I
have to kick the field goal. But like, what's the

(01:02:12):
one thing that can really mess you up? It's a
block kick by again? Is he that kicked blockbore kicks
than anybody in America going the other way? And just
just for the theater of it had right, what were
the story been a Ryan Day? If you get a
block kicked for something insane like that, you know it's.

Speaker 1 (01:02:33):
Funny you say that, Pete, because you know it was
in a weird way. Right, first drive of the game,
Notre Dame runs it down Ohio State's throat. It's a
ten minute drive. Riley Leonard, I'm sure needed an ice
bath after the first drive in a weird way, in
a weird way. I think that was great for Ohio

(01:02:53):
State because the one read, the one way I saw
them losing this game was if the Michigan Ohio State
shows up and that is the old eight team that puckers,
that gets unaggressive and tries to hell, we're not going
to make mistakes. Will Howard throws a couple of turnip picks.
And no, no, we're going to do that. This is
what's going to turn it into a toss up game
if they and they could try to meander their way,
let's feel our way in, let's try to run the

(01:03:14):
football here. But Notre Dame taking that ten minute drive
and going down there, that sort of took that off
the table for Ohio State. They had to be They
had no choice but to be aggressive and bang, bang,
bang three touchdowns, you know, in the next three possessions
to end the first half. In a weird way, I
thought that touchdown really just took it away from OHI
took the puckering away from Ohio State for a long time,

(01:03:35):
and it was we have to be aggressive. We're down seven,
they had the ball for ten minutes, let's go, let's go,
and they jump out to that big lead at halftime.

Speaker 5 (01:03:42):
Or it could have been the first Oregon game where
Ohio State did do all that. But Oregon pounded them
up front and was the more physical team and just
you know, they hammered away on them, which was what
I thought Notre Dame was about to do. And you know,
for all that, you know, was exhausted, but he got
like twenty minutes of real time rest. I mean there

(01:04:04):
was a long kind of drive. There are all these
commercials at the end of the quarter, so he got
some real time to kind of you know, you know,
catch his breath and get it back. And again, this
is more than college than any other, you know, especially
the pros, where you've got to mix it up. You
got to if something works, you do it until they
stop you. And what did they do on the first

(01:04:25):
play of No Name's next drive. They try to outpass
and they were ready for it, and all of a
sudden you had that. Then they kind of panicked a
little bit, and second down didn't work, and then all
of a sudden you just got out of your game
plan when all you had, when nor Dame would they
had to do it was perfect. That first drive was
amazing because what you do is just keep cranking positive plays.

(01:04:47):
You just get three yards here, three yards here, two
yards here, set up a third and two and then
just Riley Leonard barrels it. That's your offense. Keep doing
that until they stop it. And they just what they do.
They came out throw no kind of into the sight
of like meek play and then a sack and then
three and out in the Ohio State Bam bam bamd.

(01:05:08):
You know. So that's what drove me nuts about this
is like again, if here, Marcus Freeman, you got them
power away, just keep doing it, and they didn't do it.

Speaker 4 (01:05:16):
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(01:05:37):
school football games from this book.

Speaker 5 (01:05:39):
God, no, or are you're getting ready for.

Speaker 3 (01:05:42):
White Sox baseball?

Speaker 5 (01:05:43):
I don't know high school football now.

Speaker 3 (01:05:47):
That's just I'm trying to expand span your.

Speaker 5 (01:05:49):
Purview, actually just trying to figure out who's on what team.

Speaker 3 (01:05:53):
That's true.

Speaker 5 (01:05:54):
That's because seriously, like now it's like it used to
be like, okay, we know some back you know right
now we kind of knew who you're, like you basically know,
like without really even looking, who's your top five team
next year? I don't know Alabama, Ohio State Michigan. But
but still, I mean there's still there's so much movement now, uh,
and it's still happening that this is kind of is

(01:06:16):
kind of the crazy fun time, even though the world
starts to care about the NFL a little bit more,
especially this late year.

Speaker 3 (01:06:21):
All right, well, and so we get this finale in
Ohio state.

Speaker 4 (01:06:24):
You know, as you said, if you just listened to
a year ago and did something else, learned a romance
language or something along the way, that you would have
gotten here. So how do we review this first twelve
team playoff?

Speaker 3 (01:06:35):
What do you think worked?

Speaker 5 (01:06:37):
It was great? You know, look, it was fun. It
was you know, again we said before when this happened,
you had to get those you know, wild card type
games out of the way. You had to get the
Chargers out of there. You had to get just prove
that the Packers and Steelers didn't belong. And then the
good teams played off, so Steeler, so you know, we

(01:06:57):
got there, and then all of a sudden would we
get We got a really good games. And the other
kind of byproct which I totally did not see coming,
was that the bull season was fun because the guys
who are still there really wanted to play, so you
didn't get these teams full of guys who were just
out there trying not to get hurt. Uh. And there
were a couple of there was one game where you

(01:07:17):
had out there, but you really didn't have that really ugly,
you know type of game where the guys who was
working out because you had you know, basically both sides,
you know, always almost always had guys who lost a
ton of players. So the bull season was better, and
certainly this was a whole bunch of fun with you know,
you had a late kick to beat Penn State for
Notre Dame. Certainly, the Texas game was amazing. The Texas

(01:07:38):
Arizona State game was amazing. And you know this game
for you know, the uglies that started to look a
little bit there all of a sudden, that became a
lot of fun and uh, certainly generated more interests and
I didn't And what I do think is going to
happen is going forward, this really will be one of
those you know, the commercial says, you know playoff you
area where you really are going to have this as
a tent pole thing. Uh wow, okay, college football playoff

(01:08:01):
times now?

Speaker 1 (01:08:02):
All right, Pete, So looking ahead. I know you got
a lot of look aheads coming up. As you put
on on Twitter, this is the fun time. Now you
have your look aheads to next year season review stuff.
Let me ask you this early thoughts on saying, okay,
who could be playing for.

Speaker 3 (01:08:15):
The national title next year?

Speaker 1 (01:08:16):
If I said, right now, obviously we have so much
to go and you get to figure out who's playing where.

Speaker 4 (01:08:20):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (01:08:20):
If I to say who are teams, you would say, hey, not.

Speaker 1 (01:08:23):
Surprised if these two teams are playing for the championship
next season.

Speaker 5 (01:08:27):
I mean, just let's just stick with it. I mean,
like you know, Ohio State is gonna get more players again.
I mean, you're they lost this base of guys who
came back, and you're not gonna have the Jack Sawyers
and the jtds, you know, but you're still gonna have
Caleb Downs. You're just gonna go out there in this
transfer portal. You're gonna get the right guys who are
up there. Uh. Certainly Texas is still gonna be good,

(01:08:47):
but they're gonna blow it again to its Texas. Uh.
But Archie Manning is gonna be the big story of
the season.

Speaker 1 (01:08:53):
Uh.

Speaker 5 (01:08:53):
And let's let's see what Michigan does you know. Look,
I think that's part of the reason about this bold
season is when you win these things to kind of
carry something the off season where you know, look how Michigan,
you know, ended its season wasn't always pretty, but you
didn't have a quarterback and you still beat Ohio State
in Alabama to close the year out. You know, that's
pretty good, you know, no matter how you're going to

(01:09:15):
take it. So it's all the big names as usual.
George is gonna be awesome again. I mean, all these
teams are good, but regulars are going to be really good.

Speaker 1 (01:09:24):
There it is Pete few Tech, our man, our insider extraordinary.
Check out college Footballnews dot com. Everything you need for
college football the year and review of the projections for
next year. Pete is always Thanks for being our guest
all season long. Look forward to talking as soon as
we get ready for.

Speaker 3 (01:09:40):
The NFL Draft.

Speaker 5 (01:09:41):
Absolutely have a good one, guys, be good buddy, Thank you.

Speaker 3 (01:09:44):
There goes Pete few Tech. Great stuff from him, all
this good man. Yeah. Look, all the intriguing teams are
in the Big ten right once again.

Speaker 1 (01:09:51):
You know we talk about the Big ten, the SEC
all these teams because yes, Ohio States bringing a lot
of talent back. Are they losing some, Yes, but they're
bringing back.

Speaker 3 (01:09:58):
And they'll be able to buy some more.

Speaker 1 (01:10:00):
The Michigan's had gonna have a great defense next year,
and they got Bryce Onderwood coming in Penn Stay.

Speaker 3 (01:10:05):
It's you know the road or the road of the.

Speaker 1 (01:10:08):
National title that again once again is going through the
Big Ten. It's going to be crazy and uh and
but next year is going to be no different than
this year. Big Ten will be the number one conference.
We're going to try to pick it. Should they take
three teams? Four teams from the Big the Big Ten? Well,
let's let's see spend the rest.

Speaker 4 (01:10:24):
Of the night going through all of their schedules and
predicting wins and losses.

Speaker 1 (01:10:28):
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