January 22, 2025 • 56 mins
Jason and Mike welcome in NFL Insider Jason La Canfrora to talk all things Playoffs and Coaching Carousel. What's more embarrassing for MLB? The Mayor of Philadelphia Cherelle Parker misspells Eagles. And we reflect on this year’s Baseball Hall of Fame Class!
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Mike Hart. I gotta tell you the first thing I
did when I found out that Eachiro, Suzuki, Eiro, cc Sabathia,
Billy Wagner, Metsio get into the Hall of Fame. And
the big topic right away, obviously, is Eachiro is one
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vote away from being unanimous, which who didn't vote for Eachiro?
I mean, come on, first thing I did was I
texted Rob Parker. I said, dude, you voted for each Hero, right?
He texted me back loll of course. I said, you
should tell everybody it was you, even though it think
just going to tell everybody it was you, because if
(01:37):
you if I put that out on social media, said hey,
I got a feeling Rob Parker was the guy who
didn't vote for you. That would take off. People go, oh,
look at that. He works with him, he knows him.
He would say Rob Parker didn't vote for Eachiro. I
could absolutely have made that happen.
Speaker 4 (01:51):
It would be the greatest heal turn that you could
possibly take.
Speaker 5 (01:55):
And that's why you know there is an account that
is a Mets beat rioter that claims to be the guy,
but we haven't been able to corroborate that. But to
be able to be the one to go out and say, yeah,
full heel, I'm gonna be that guy.
Speaker 4 (02:10):
Man.
Speaker 5 (02:10):
Remember all those years ago the Shaquille O'Neill vote unanimous,
but one there was Fred Hickman.
Speaker 4 (02:19):
Was it not? So?
Speaker 5 (02:20):
I mean, you know you've got you've got circumstances in
the past, and then.
Speaker 4 (02:24):
Well defend it. Right, if you want to defend it,
have at it.
Speaker 5 (02:27):
If it's just you don't think the guy and anybody
should ever go in you know, unanimous, or you don't
like the first ballad idea because guys in the past
weren't unanimous.
Speaker 4 (02:39):
Get over yourself. For one h two it's a museum
U three.
Speaker 5 (02:43):
Uh they you cost him this guy, I mean, that's
an extra inscription. Man, that's an extra hundred bucks of
signature for the rest of his life. Unanimous. Now, now
here's the thing. Now here's here's what's come out in
the last hour. Because as soon as I saw, of
course the Mets are going to keep each.
Speaker 4 (02:59):
From the right from a unanimous all of vabe the Mets.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
Now, according to this bio on Twitter, and it seems
I'm saying this seems legit. There's a guy named Mark
Gooden who says he's a senior VP beat writer for
the National Inquirer. Three times POLLUTU and all this stuff.
Hall of Fame voter says didn't vote for Eachiro. So
he actually has that in his profile that he didn't
vote for Eachiro. So this is out there and and
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and you know, and it looks like that's who it's
signed by. When when you see some of the some
of the ballots that are out there, that looks like
that's who signed it and printed his name.
Speaker 4 (03:37):
So I don't know, you know.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
I mean, he actually says on his Twitter account, I'm
the senior beat writer. I didn't vote for eachiro. So
I mean he's starting to wear it, I think a
little bit. But I you know, I don't know, man,
I mean really, I mean, there's been no real confirmation
other than this sky's saying it was me.
Speaker 4 (03:54):
It was me. I did I did it. I did it.
I did it. I did it. I did it. That's
like the guy that's like the dream cop at.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
The end of the TV show where the person just
comes in and confesses and says, yeah, I did it.
Speaker 4 (04:04):
Well, tell us why. Okay, I'll tell you why.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
All the things you're never supposed to do, right, don't
don't admit anything, don't tell the plane does not Only.
Speaker 4 (04:11):
Am I gonna admit I'll tell you why I did it?
Speaker 1 (04:13):
Yeah, you want me to write it down and make
a statement, Sure, I'll unburden myself.
Speaker 4 (04:16):
So, I mean, it seems like this is who it is.
But I mean, uh, but just this whole, this whole, this.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
Whole stink of hey, Mets guy keeping each room for
the Hall of.
Speaker 4 (04:28):
Fame, we're getting in unanimously.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
I'm like, really, each row is a guy you voted for,
for good, for U, for Rivera. Right, you couldn't, Mets
guy couldn't keep Rivera from getting unanius.
Speaker 4 (04:38):
No, no, no no, but we're gonna have We're gonna.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
Not vote for each row on here, which I mean,
come on, man, I mean seriously, the guy had two
hundred hits every year's first ten years in the majors.
Speaker 4 (04:49):
He didn't get to the major till he was twenty seven.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
Right, he may have been the great Him, Him and
Ricky Henderson are probably the greatest top of the lineup
hitters that I have ever seen in my life. I
don't think anybody's gonna dispute that from you. He was
terrific defensively as well. I don't know what you want
three thousand hits if he has a full major league career, right,
if he's somehow able to come over from Japan early
and I gotta wait, you gotta play and get posted.
(05:12):
We see this now with Sasaki and Young Modo last year.
But if he was able to come over when he
was twenty two, right, let's see he comes over when
he's twenty seven and he gets two hundred hits a year.
Let's just let's just go conservative and say, Okay, two
hundred hits a year for him from the age of
twenty two to twenty seven. He's probably breaking Pete Rose's
hit record. He's probably he's probably topping forty two fifty six.
(05:33):
But no, no, no, I'm not voting. I'm not voting
for each Heiro on thet I just won't. I mean,
I mean I did to vote for Chase Utley, right, Like,
I mean, what'd you do? Like how'd you treat this?
I don't understand, Like, like, who are you voting for.
Speaker 4 (05:46):
On this ballot? Ahead of each Eero Sazo? Yeah? Was
anybody else get voted for ahead of each row?
Speaker 6 (05:51):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (05:51):
It is interesting because he's followed by a bunch of
baseball writers. National Inquirer not in right inquir is the
tabloid Inquirer just says a very real periodical that employs
two good and seventeen, a great publication that has two
hundred and thirty one followers, So I think it's parody
(06:12):
and he's having fun with it and he's creating a
heel accounts.
Speaker 4 (06:16):
Yeah maybe maybe, But all of that.
Speaker 5 (06:18):
To say, there is somebody out there that really should
at least give us the rationale as to why you
didn't want Ichro Suzuki to be immortalized as the unanimous
you know, because we've already got one, right, we got
Mariano Rivera, so that's our We've already broken that barrier.
(06:39):
And certainly you go back in the annals of history
and you had some silliness where we have you know,
so many guys that didn't vote for Maze or go
back to the inaugural class didn't vote for Babe Ruth.
So plenty of precedents of stupidity about pettiness amongst writers.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
Yeah, because here because it's the National Inquir not the
nationally No.
Speaker 5 (06:59):
That's Inquire. Look at what their bio says on their
Twitter account.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
Yeah, and it says employer of Mark Gooden, who is
who has owned this? So it's like, what the hell
is it really like Batman? Occasionally I do update it there.
I mean, just got to keep people guessing. I don't
want to give the true identity. But here's the thing, like, like,
like is this if you find out it's somebody else
and this is a you know, it's a satirical account
(07:24):
and everything else you find this out, like what do.
Speaker 4 (07:27):
You you know what?
Speaker 1 (07:29):
Like, like does it ever go away that, oh, Mets
guy didn't vote for each your oat right, Because that's
the first thing you hear, right, Mets guy didn't vote
for guys like Mike Puma who've covered the Mets for
a long time.
Speaker 4 (07:38):
They're gonna get you didn't vote for each your o Puma. No,
not me. I didn't do it. I didn't No, that's right.
Speaker 5 (07:45):
Yeah, it's it's now always going to be Mets guy,
salty Mets guys.
Speaker 4 (07:49):
Guy who voted for Chase Utley. Yeah, yeah, I mean
I I don't understand. I mean, one guy on his ballot.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
Here's the other thing, like, like you have to you
have to cover baseball for a long time. You gonna
do a lot of things to be able to vote
for the Hall of Fame. Like I really, I mean,
I can't believe we haven't gotten more on this story
outside of this guy saying it was me it was me.
I'm looking for attention, Like, I can't believe we haven't
gotten that. Like, I think this guy is legit, you know,
for whatever this is, whatever he does, But is this
(08:15):
a real publication?
Speaker 4 (08:16):
What is he?
Speaker 1 (08:16):
Is he really right? Is he telling the truth about
what he's doing? Like, I think the guy is legit,
but what he does and actually having a vote.
Speaker 4 (08:22):
Like who knows? Man? I mean, who knows well?
Speaker 5 (08:25):
The Baseball Writers' Association of America. I mean it's ballot
number two fifty five was the one from twenty twenty
one that he posted up there. So, uh, same thing here,
let's look at the ballot. Yeah, but is it his
bat off a film? It's cut off to where you
don't have a number on this one. Yeah, because then
you'dn't be able to corroborate and they'd be able to
(08:46):
just say, well, this was turned in by and registered
to X, you know what I mean. So, whether this
is legit or not, it makes for great fodder because
now it's the great mystery. We could do this as well,
you know, a a podcast of all the great travesties
in voting history for different awards and systems.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
Oh, Fred Hickman not voting for Shack right when he
was going to be unanimous MVP and Fred Hickman voted
for Alan ivers and I remember it his MVP ceremony,
Shack said, I want to thank everybody for this, even
a guy who didn't vote for me, like he had
fun with it going. I could have been unanimous at no. No, no,
I'm voting for Alan Iverson for MVP. I mean, the
bottom line is somebody didn't vote for no matter how
(09:30):
cut it up, right, Like, what's worse for Major League
Baseball that somebody who you know, if if it's a
parody account and somebody had a real vote and didn't
vote for him, or is it just somebody who covered
the game for a long time and doesn't feel like
each Ro's a Hall of Famer. That's like lose lose
because either you have the hey, you're not really taking
care of your house where some kind of parody account
(09:51):
or whoever it is is going to come in and
vote and you allow them to have a vote, or
oh yeah, you actually employ someone that doesn't think each
Rosuzuki is a Hall of Famer.
Speaker 4 (09:58):
Well you're already.
Speaker 1 (09:59):
I don't know, I don't know what the worst one
is I don't know. And again I keep want to
put out there. I'm just gonna keep telling people it
was Rob Parker. I'm just gonna keep No.
Speaker 4 (10:06):
That's good. But I mean you've got to we've got.
Speaker 5 (10:09):
This with the when we used to have the balloting
for you know, the college football you know coaches Paul Hey, uh,
sid filled this out. Okay, cool, Uh, but it's attributed
to the coach. Or you've got Heisman voters, or in
baseball for the Hall of Fame, people that haven't been
(10:29):
on the beat forever, their legacy plays. They may not
watch a game in a month, but they're voting on
the Hall of Fame. Hell, you got guys that profess
to watch all the time. It's like, all right, who
is their league? Nah, I got nothing for you. So
it's it's unfortunately, it's a necessary evil unless you want
to go to full on veteran Paul players and change
(10:54):
up how you're doing that, Like they have those committees.
Once you're off the ballot altogether, right and you're ten
years alive. But in the interim, yeah, you got to
clean up your house because one way or another, this
is making a laughing stock of your process, not because
someone didn't put eachro on, but I may put your
name on it. The old j Moore when he was
(11:15):
with us here at Fox Sport's radio, that was that
was to drop you to here a hundred times in
a prof.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
Try put some respect on it, and that puts, you know,
absolutely late. I think Jane Moore got d' Angela Russell traded.
I guarantee it. I guarantee that was the guy.
Speaker 5 (11:29):
He probably had the final say, waved his finger and
made it so. But but legitimately it's the all right,
we want to know, like more curious at this point.
Speaker 4 (11:38):
Yeah, it's who it is.
Speaker 5 (11:40):
But give me some sort of rationale of why other
than just because I didn't want to. Yeah, I mean,
I don't know, hiding behind some parody clients. I don't
know what I really I don't know what's works for baseball.
If hey, we're not taking care of our own house
and we let some crazy you know, get in here
and not vote for Eatro or oh no, no, the
(12:00):
guys we trust implicitly one of our guys didn't vote
for each Like, I don't know.
Speaker 4 (12:04):
I don't know any of the game. I don't know
like I'm trying to think, like if I had a
big fan.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
I got a bunch of kids, right, I have a
bunch of kids, and let's say one of my kids
gets busted for stealing a mailbox.
Speaker 4 (12:18):
Right in theory, right, let's.
Speaker 3 (12:19):
Like father like son. Yeah, like apple doesn't fall.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
Too far from the tree. Right, Let's say one of
my kids gets busted.
Speaker 5 (12:24):
Right, has Zoe ever been called to the principal's office?
You know, the backpack full of knickknacks and a sort
of chotchkes.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
No her friends, But boy, I stole mailboxes. I got
license plates in my backpack.
Speaker 4 (12:37):
What do you need?
Speaker 1 (12:38):
It's like, like, what's words if I had a big fan,
Like he said, Okay, one of your kids is but
god stole a mailbox? Oh my god, I told my kids.
I told that story. What was really funny one night?
Like what I wanted to be Hey, the kid who's
always in trouble that you would kind of expect it from,
and boy, I really needed to keep a better eye
on the kid or the kid who's got all the
straight a's.
Speaker 4 (12:56):
That I trusted.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
Hey, Hey, it's our shining example going to get a
scholarship to college, Like like like, what's more, what's more embarrassing?
Which kid stealing, the stealing the mailbox in line would
be more embarrassing.
Speaker 4 (13:07):
I gotta think it's I gotta think it's worse for
I don't know, I don't know.
Speaker 5 (13:11):
No, it's it's be because now you got two delinquents.
Yeah no, but but I'm but I'm just thinking that, actually,
and what did that guy get away with all the
other years before he finally got caught?
Speaker 4 (13:20):
But where's the other you were had a close eye
on him. He was only getting so far.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
Dad, Let me, Dad, let me tell you this, this
whole mailbox saying that's the that's the tip of the iceberg.
Speaker 4 (13:31):
Don't wait, hip deep in, don't ask me what you
don't want to know.
Speaker 5 (13:36):
Remember when I asked, asked our next door neighbor, I
wanted a little extra closet space.
Speaker 4 (13:41):
Yeah, he actually built a false wall here. Watch this.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
I just feel like he'd be sitting there like McConaughey
in the first season of True Detective is making the
things with the beer cans and talking about Dora Lang
and all that. What's going on here? Time is a
flat circle? What do you tell telling me? What do
you did you did you vote for eachro or not?
I don't understand.
Speaker 5 (14:04):
It's so great, but it's it's just a great mythology
that now em and hs from this. And if I'm
Rob Parker or one of the other nine million voters
or whatever the number of visual number is at this point,
I think that's Heisman voters. I would want an answer.
I would want the Writers' Association of America to follow
up on this again. Uh as much of why didn't
(14:28):
someone vote for Intro? As a do we have a
problem in our system where a guy on a parody account.
Speaker 4 (14:34):
Who might have been legit at one point I don't.
Speaker 5 (14:36):
Know right exactly, like yeah, like that he kept a
vote and now he's made he's clowning us all.
Speaker 4 (14:41):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
It's like this, It's like the spy TV shows. Is
it worse that that that the the assassin is evading
the the or is it worse that there's a mole
from inside?
Speaker 4 (14:50):
Like like what's worse? Like we can't get the guy
like then he.
Speaker 5 (14:52):
Got through our writing process and he's now already.
Speaker 4 (14:56):
He's so smart he's eliminating everybody.
Speaker 1 (14:59):
We can't get Eddie Redmain or oh we actually have
somebody working against.
Speaker 5 (15:05):
The fact that you got someone called the Jackal? Is
that really all you're trying to do? Whitname?
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What was starting to see some coaches get retained. Kevin
O'Connell agree to a multi year extension with the Vikings. Today,
Josh McDaniels is coming back to the Patriots as offensive coordinator,
(17:59):
but the Cowboys still don't have a head coach.
Speaker 4 (18:01):
Oh what's next?
Speaker 1 (18:06):
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can confirm Jason lock and For was not the person
(18:26):
who did not vote for Eachiro for the Hall of
Fame today, James want to get that out there, I
don't want if he's asking you about.
Speaker 6 (18:31):
That, yeah, not me, not me. I mean he kind
of figured one person or a couple of people would
do it though, right, I mean, just seems to be
the times we're living it all.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
Right, So we're talking the head coaching situations here. Yeah, okay,
we thought Kevin O'Connell would get his contract extension. Here
comes Josh McDaniels back with the Patriots. The Cowboys seem
like they're gonna choose between Kellen Moore and Brian Shott.
I mean, tell me, tell me, Jerry Jones, tell me,
tell me, tell me. This is not who Jerry Jones
fired Mike McCarthy for Jay.
Speaker 6 (19:07):
I won't believe it until I say it. That just
seems like such an incredible cop out all the way around,
and not that he's not capable of it, because again,
he just wants something he can sell, or just something
he can push around, something that will provide no pushback,
(19:27):
something of an empty vessel that he can coach the
team through. And boy, either of those HighRes would be
just that. I mean, he didn't walk Kellen Moore running
his offense anymore, you know, seemingly ten minutes ago and
nobody's wanting shot. And when they've had him running it,
(19:47):
they've generally decided, you know, within a season or two later,
that yeah, that's not for us. And then the what
kind of staffs are those two are going to put together? Like,
I don't know, man, Look this is this is these
(20:09):
are feastoms and if you know, the guy running that
village wants to do something that seemingly no sound football
person would do, there's no way to stop them. So
I I part of me, the common sense part of me,
(20:29):
is like, some of this is just travel and some
of this is just grandstanding. And then if beyond ride
General white Horse, it's going to be even more. You know,
look at us, I fool they all, but I don't know, man,
like like I don't know, my god, Yeah, good luck,
(20:55):
good luck.
Speaker 4 (21:00):
Held down.
Speaker 5 (21:00):
They make the big splash Jason as they go, and
they get Ben Johnson in reported thirteen million dollars a year.
The hard knocks they did with the Bear stunk. I
want to see the inner workings of this and the
pitch they made to McCaskey to spend the money.
Speaker 6 (21:17):
Yeah, look, they they've got the quarterback. He knows that Demons,
you know, pretty well for preparing to face them twice
a year. He also knows the best team in the
division really well for leading their offense the past a
few years. So it makes a lot of sense in
that regard. He was going to take a job this year.
(21:40):
He changed agents a while back, and you know, I
think his mindset had changed a little bit, and this
was he was taking, in all likelihood a job whether
you know, if they won a Super Bowl or you know,
went out the first round. So I don't think there
is an influence at all by how the season ended.
This is already headed towards that track. And you know,
(22:03):
his representation, Rick Smith put together that thing in Detroit.
Nobody wanted to go to Detroit coming out of the
dregs of you know, Matt Patricia and all that and
nobody's won in Detroit forever, and nobody took Detroit seriously
and Ben Johnson was part of a thing there that
turned Detroit around. So I have serious reservation about Ryan
(22:27):
Poles as the general manager. But Ryan Poles is the
guy to be able to build that offensive line out
the way it needs to be built. And we'll see
how long you know that part of the marriage last.
I would think Ryan Poles, you know, better have one
hell of an offseason because if they don't, how are
you going to let him keep picking players for this
young head coach. I just don't think that's going to happen. So,
(22:50):
you know, good luck with this free agent class is
not all lot out there, so they're gonna have to draft, well,
they're gonna have to manipulate the draft board and maybe
move around a little bit. We'll see. But you know,
if you're Ben Johnson and you don't want to deal
with the chaos and craziness of the Jets, sorry, and
(23:10):
you don't want to go to New Orleans where they're
in salary cap hell, and they've got to gut that
thing still, And even though it's you know, a somewhat
weak division, there's not great talent there, and there's no
real great easy road to a quarterback Jacksonville. They've been
trying to hire him there for you know whatever, they've
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wanted him in the past. Like, I just I don't
think he wants anything to do with that situation. And
the Raiders don't have a road to a quarterback. So yeah,
if you were going to take one this time around
of the ones that are out there, that's a pretty
good that's a pretty good one to take, I think.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
Jason looking for our guest Jason Smith, Mike Harmon lifrom
the tirec dot Com Studios. All right, speaking of now
off season, I can only imagine what the last thirty
six hours have been for you in Baltimore.
Speaker 4 (24:03):
Is it all Lamar's fault? Is it all Mark Andrews's fault? Like, like,
what's what's not all Lamar's fault?
Speaker 6 (24:09):
Yeah, I mean I don't know. You'd have to be
on a different planet to think of you.
Speaker 4 (24:11):
No, I mean, what what.
Speaker 1 (24:12):
Are people saying? No, no, no, Like, what are people saying
all Lamar can't come through? Is it all Mark Andrews
dropped the ball?
Speaker 6 (24:17):
Like? What is it?
Speaker 4 (24:18):
What is it there?
Speaker 6 (24:18):
Well, I mean I think it is. It's it's just
sort of consternation and confusion. Like the defense which last year,
not in twenty twenty four, but the twenty twenty two season,
you know, became the first in NFL history to lead
the league and points allowed, fact takeaways in Lamar, Like
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in Lamar Jackson's playoff history, they created two turnovers. Like
so we can talk about early in Lamar's career when
he turned it over, but they have created two turnovers
and the entirety of his playoff existence. But how is that, like,
how is it possible? Like that just seems somewhat impossible.
And Lamar, whose first half wasn't is you know, wasn't
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an ideal back in half was unbelievable. But Lamar has
two turnovers for the first time in the AFC Championship
game less, and he does it all in the first
half of the game. And again, he hadn't done it
to the Chiefs game a year ago. It's just it's
hard to secure. Mark Andrews has been one of their
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most productive offensive players in the regular season in the
history of their organization. He's been a joke in the playoffs.
And it's not just this game I mean, you can
look at any metric to evaluate him regular season to postseason.
He's not the same guy. Got a twenty percent drop
rate in the playoffs, like he's got a five percent
to operate in the regular season. He's never had a
playoff touchdown, and he was a huge player at the
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first game where he went over fifty yards receiving with
Lamar in a playoff game, and nobody's going to remember that.
They remember, you know, the two drops in the fumble.
So I think it's it's trying to make extensive of
all that of why a team an average seven point
three yards of play pulled Josh Allen one hundred and
forty seven total yards and four point six yards of
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play as an offense, produced one hundred and fifty yards
more than the other team on the road in average
conditions and still lose. It's it's it's, you know, it's
kind of tough to sort out. It's another game where
they didn't run the ball in the ways that a
lot of people thought they would have should have, and
they didn't run it ultimately with the volume that a
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lot of people would say they should have. Lamar's legs
not being activated at all not a single design run
for Lamar. Pretty bizarre. And so you know, they're really
good at finding ways to lose in the playoffs and
they're not good enough for finding ways to win.
Speaker 5 (26:50):
So when we talk again next week, Jason Locking for
Washington Post one five seven the Fan, Aaron Baltimore, who
are we talking about for two weeks and what storyline?
Speaker 4 (27:00):
As are we following to the Super Bowl?
Speaker 6 (27:03):
I mean, Patch Mahomes is sixteen and three in the playoffs,
so I'm not betting against team, you know, And are
the Bills going to turn them over three times? Because
I'm old enough to remember like around week nine when
Patrick Mahonmes was leading the league and in a substance,
and I don't be unthrown one. They haven't turn the
ball over, I don't think since that game against the Bill,
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So I don't think they're handing this away. That's that's
not what they do. And that build defense, to me,
is really reliant on takeaways. And if the safeties are
beat up, mean Baltimore had throw the ball and Minogle
field all they wanted. They were split in the safeties
and you know Raps banged up the nickel guys banged
up now. I don't know, man, I don't think they're
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beating the Chiefs and Narrowhead and then the other one. Man,
I'm not betting against Jade Daniels. I mean, I think
they can come out with an early game script Tyke,
an early lead, get the Eagles a little, get those fans.
Maybe turning on the Eagles forced the Eagle to open
it up more than maybe they'd like, Like they'd just
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like to run, say Calon Barkley thirty times and you know,
win that game nine to seven if they had to.
But I don't think that's going to be in the cards.
I don't know. I mean, I know that they're not
going to blitz like crazy like they did the last
game against Washington. But still that happened this kid through
five touchdown passes on Vick Fangio's defense. You can't tell
me that's not in their heads a little bit, you
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Knowing to Kobe Dean, I think is going to be
a problem. How healthy is Jayden Hurks? Like, are we
buying that he's anything close to healthy? Like, I don't
think he is. You're gonna practice this week? I'm not
so sure, you know, And you got Kuna Mitchell banged up.
You got a few people all banged up in their secondary.
I take Washington, and I know rookie quarterbacks in the
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Agency championship game. This is where the story generally dies.
But I'm not sure that this kid done fucking conventional
wisdom yet.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
Are at Jason Lock and for that is at Jason
Lock and fora honesty Washington Post one five seven, Jay
as always, buddy, appreciated man.
Speaker 4 (29:07):
We'll talk to you next week after the games.
Speaker 6 (29:10):
My pleasure. Guys have a great week.
Speaker 4 (29:11):
Be good, buddy, Thank you. There goes Jason Lock, and
for I mean, yeah, I mean look that he's right
in that. Okay, Hey, Usually this is.
Speaker 1 (29:19):
Where we get to the end of a big run,
a magical run, because one great player against a great team. Generally,
the great team wins. Except that absolutely did not happen
last week, and the Lions are home because of it,
and especially now this week.
Speaker 4 (29:32):
Like I felt worse about the Commanders last week than
they do about them this week.
Speaker 1 (29:37):
Right, I felt worse about them last week. They're not
gonna win. They win now I feel really good about
them because the Eagles have all kinds of injury issues
and yeah, Jalen Hurts.
Speaker 4 (29:45):
I mean he couldn't move like he could. Well, you
saw his post the last last quarter of that game. Yeah,
his post game.
Speaker 5 (29:51):
He's standing there with Saquon Barkley and they ask him
about his injury.
Speaker 4 (29:54):
He goes, I finished the game.
Speaker 5 (29:56):
Yeah, oh, and like very tersely like asks something else.
Speaker 4 (30:00):
Yeah, I finished the game.
Speaker 1 (30:03):
I mean, okay, who I mean, get get ready. Roja
Warski could be coming in for a lot of this game.
Speaker 4 (30:08):
Oh, nicely done. Hurts gets hurt.
Speaker 1 (30:09):
Man, I'll tell you, uh the Jason Smiths TIREC dot
Com Studios. Oh yeah, yeah, I think you. I mean
I think he's actually going to be at the stadium
and if something happens, they give him the ghost sign
and he gets and he gets dressed, and he goes
down and comes out of the half time.
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Time Now to find out what's trending in the wide
world of sports. From special Delivery Steve de Sager. He
was the one who told the voter, hey, don't vote
for each your row. I really don't think he's a
Hall of Famer.
Speaker 3 (30:54):
My goodness, who was that for?
Speaker 7 (30:56):
Credl As I mentioned on the previous show, I'm a
fan of the sport and of.
Speaker 4 (31:00):
The Hall of Fame.
Speaker 7 (31:01):
You owe me an explanation for this, whoever you are.
Speaker 1 (31:04):
But again, I want to say, as soon as it
came out, I texted Rob Parker, you voted for Eachiro.
Speaker 4 (31:09):
He told me, yes, so it's not Rob Parker.
Speaker 6 (31:11):
Now.
Speaker 7 (31:12):
Rob's big thing was how are people voting for ten
people for.
Speaker 3 (31:15):
The Hall of Fame.
Speaker 7 (31:16):
Yeah, you know, legitimate question, some misselle. You're allowed to,
You are allowed to. Some voters today literally said out loud.
They did so only because they don't want some guys
to fall off the ballot, you know, getting under five
percent of the vote, they would automatically be off and
not considered for the ten years. And they want more
discussion at least on Brian McCann or whoever into the
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Baseball Hall of Fame, Eachiro Suzuki, C C. Sabathia, and
Billy Wagner. Eachiro, mostly with the Mariners, had over three
thousand hits in the majors and five hundred stolen bases,
and won a Gold Glove in each of his first
ten years with Seattle.
Speaker 4 (31:54):
The vote was.
Speaker 3 (31:54):
Nearly unanimous for Suzuki, just one vote. Shy.
Speaker 7 (31:58):
By the way, you were talking football, nor key quarterback
has ever started a Super Bowl. Rookies in conference championships
are zero and five, including the losses by Mark Sanchez
and Joe Flacco years ago, or brock Perty who started
and of course didn't finish in recent years. But the
NFC Championship game is on Fox TV Sunday, three pm
Eastern Time, Washington at Philadelphia. They split their two regular
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season meetings. Then the AFC title game is Sunday, Buffalo
at Kansas City. The Bills beat him in Buffalo in November.
The Chiefs have been nine to zero until then. This
is their fourth playoff meeting in the last five years,
and Kansas City's won the previous three. The New York
Jets talked to Lions defensive coordinator Aaron Glenn again today
and they're trying to finalize the deal. Glenn reportedly has
(32:43):
an offer. Dallas interviewed its offensive coordinator Brian Schottenheimer for
its head coach opening. The Cowboys have already interviewed Kellen Moore,
Robert Sola, Leslie Fraser. The Patriots are hiring Josh mcdaniels's
offensive coordinator for new head coach Mike Frable. New England
spoke with McDaniels today. By the way, New Orleans, due
to bad weather, rescheduled its interviews. Temperatures in the twenties
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there tonight and some snow. New Orleans is going to
be hosting the Super Bowl in two and a half weeks,
but they say the temperature will be in the sixties
in a couple weeks when the media and the teams
are there for the week. The Vikings today gave head
coach Kevin O'Connell a contract extension to the NBA. The
Knicks won ninety nine to ninety five at Brooklyn Karl
Anthony Towns twenty five points sixteen rebounds. At Toronto, the
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Raptors were trailing Orlando in the first quarter thirty two
to eleven, and still came back to beat the Magic
one oh nine ninety three, Portland one at Miami won
sixteen one oh seven. There are two late games. Lakers
about to start at home against Washington, which has lost
ten in a row. Philadelphia has dropped six in a row,
and they're losing at Denver early second quarter forty three
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to thirty two. Kawhi Leonard of the Clippers will miss
a second straight game tomorrow due to his bad knee,
and Cleveland's Evan Mobley will miss a third straight game
tomorrow due to a strained calf. Upset in college hoops,
so High State came back to win at number eleven
Perdue Yukon in overtime edge Butler. Currently, Arizona State is
leading at number twenty three West Virginia forty eight to
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Speaker 1 (35:10):
No aged, you know, I was watching television the other
day and like some of you, didn't know how to
spell eagles, Like that was a whole thing, you know,
spell eagles.
Speaker 4 (35:19):
I could do Fox Sports.
Speaker 1 (35:22):
Radio The Jason Smith Show with Mike Harmon live from
the Tirech dot Com Studios. Now, we had a pesky
thing called the National Championship Game last night in college football.
But now we're free and clear. We're free and clear
of that now, so now we can get into the
ongoing drama that is the Mayor of Philadelphia.
Speaker 4 (35:43):
This weekend.
Speaker 1 (35:44):
It's something that really just started to hit the mainstream
in the last few hours. The mayor of Philadelphia, Charrelle Parker,
is catching a lot of heat for a pregame Eagles
chant she tried to lead before their playoff game on Sunday.
Speaker 4 (36:02):
Now she has since.
Speaker 1 (36:03):
You sort of apologize for this, but you know what,
in case you don't know what we're talking about, let's
just play it for you.
Speaker 4 (36:09):
Here is the mayor trying to.
Speaker 1 (36:10):
Psych up the crowd a little press conference, get everybody
ready for the Eagles game on Sunday against the Rams.
Speaker 7 (36:16):
Hey, ow g.
Speaker 4 (36:20):
Yes, let's go birds, guys.
Speaker 3 (36:25):
Let's give her one more chance.
Speaker 4 (36:26):
Oh do you hear the chance to spell Eagles?
Speaker 6 (36:28):
Right?
Speaker 1 (36:28):
This is the mayor of Philadelphia. I understand another chance
of that because the e E A g l e
S is the Eagles chant, right, like j E T
s e A g l e s Eagles.
Speaker 4 (36:39):
Let let's give another chance to get it right?
Speaker 7 (36:41):
Hey, ow g.
Speaker 4 (36:45):
Yes, really e L G S l e s that's
el ghisles. Yeah. I don't understand.
Speaker 1 (37:02):
Now, hang on, she's worse because at least Tony Richardson
got the first three letters, like.
Speaker 4 (37:09):
He just went back the landing.
Speaker 1 (37:11):
Okay, yeah, but okay, j E T. It should just
be an S. But he did j E T. He
got the first three letters right. She bifted on the
second letter, she said. But someone might have held up
the card that had the wrong thing. I mean, there
might have been a bunch of people, you know, like
you know when you paint your chest and you're supposed
to stand in a line and you do it wrong.
Maybe that was what happened here. I need a starting
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at people in the crowd. I need a card to
tell me how to spell eagles. I need a card.
Speaker 5 (37:36):
No, no, no, no, I'm not saying you do when
I'm saying maybe you were looking out and that's how
they were arranged. They had two l's even supposed to
be an A, and he just think somewhere and he
screwed me.
Speaker 1 (37:47):
Instead of with somebody holding an E, someone holding an A,
someone holding a G, it was someone holding an E.
Then the next person was holding an L, the next
person holding a G. The next person was an S,
then an L. Then even if they get the letters
around and they spelled gales or something like that, all
I know is she took me.
Speaker 4 (38:06):
Now.
Speaker 1 (38:06):
She did have a fun comment today she was She
actually talked about today in the Pursuit of perfection as
part of a press conference. She goes, Listen, you know
none of us are ever perfect. That we keep striving
for it, which is great. Here I know about perfection
since I didn't know how to spell eagles the other day.
But like this is this is like this is not
like E G, L E S. Like, oh, I forgot
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the A. You know, this is not all I forgot
the A or I forgot the G. You know, I
missed a letter. This was I'm putting the wrong letter second,
and then I'm putting an S as the fourth.
Speaker 4 (38:38):
That are like, I'm missing like four letters here in this.
Speaker 1 (38:41):
I'm like them of the slots you can get eagles wrong,
She's missing like four of them.
Speaker 5 (38:45):
Hey man, this is like being on Wheel of Fortune
and you just have something in your head and it
goes haywire.
Speaker 1 (38:52):
Oh yeah, yeah, look at this epic fail on Wheel
of Fortune from last night.
Speaker 3 (38:56):
This is way worse, way worse.
Speaker 4 (38:58):
You know, because part of.
Speaker 1 (38:59):
Me thinks, not that I'm conspiracy theory, but boy, you know,
every week or so to keep Wheel of Fortune or
Jeopardy in the news, like there's a story of somebody
who really has a horrible epic fail to a question
that gains a lot of viral attention.
Speaker 4 (39:13):
I wonder, is that one hundred percent legit?
Speaker 6 (39:16):
Is?
Speaker 1 (39:17):
That?
Speaker 4 (39:17):
Is that biffing of it? One hundred percent legit? Really?
Speaker 5 (39:20):
All like this happens and it helps to prove the
point Frostbert was trying to make over a week ago.
Speaker 3 (39:26):
Oh yeah, Jason thought I was kidding.
Speaker 1 (39:29):
Oh no, no, no, she said nobody could read her, right, No,
I for you, clearly she needs to read that AJ
Brown book or maybe to start a little bit you know,
lower at that.
Speaker 4 (39:38):
But uh, you're count in thet.
Speaker 1 (39:40):
Yeah, because maybe because Elgasis that sounds like a name
from Lord of the Rings, like like we're going to
Els battling Sniegel in a prequel.
Speaker 4 (39:55):
Yes, I think you just invoked something from the Fifth
Ring of Hell E lgs E. I mean, I don't
know how that's what you get out of it. I
know it was really cold.
Speaker 1 (40:07):
I remembers that I have the shit, But wow, man,
I don't, I don't. I don't understand it. I don't
understand how that's how you bif that so badly.
Speaker 5 (40:18):
You know, we all have a bad day, bad moment,
and maybe it got some extra attention for some of
the pet projects because.
Speaker 4 (40:24):
People were curious how she would respond.
Speaker 5 (40:27):
So she Kensington Wellness Court and help get some extra
attention on it.
Speaker 1 (40:32):
So you think maybe, like when when people throw a
bad first pitch on purpose because it will gain notoriety
on the you look at the first pitch that Fitty
sent through, look at the first pitch so and so through,
because people will pay more attention if you just throw
it over the middle of the plate.
Speaker 4 (40:45):
So you think maybe this could have been a This could.
Speaker 1 (40:48):
Have been one of those Hey, I misspelled it, but
I didn't really Now you're paying attention to me. I
don't want to talk about rolling out my economic plan
for twenty twenty five.
Speaker 5 (40:54):
No, no, no, I think it was terribly botched. And
then what do you do when you break a few eggs? Hey,
we got any extra vegetables in there and maybe some leftover.
Speaker 4 (41:03):
Ham or something, so I can make an omelet. Yeah,
that's what we did here.
Speaker 5 (41:07):
Hey, I've got to go to this unveiling of a
wellness court and thing to help support people, maybe get
treatment instead of jail. Here's how I can make the
best out of my bad situation.
Speaker 1 (41:19):
Hashtag Elgas's Elvis ilgussag elgis.
Speaker 3 (41:23):
She's holding Karen Bosses beers.
Speaker 1 (41:25):
Oh, I tell you Frostburg off the top row. Coming
up next, something we haven't gotten to about today's Hall
of Fame voting and wife. You didn't get in the
Hall of Fame as a baseball player, don't worry, You'll
get in at some point.
Speaker 4 (41:39):
That's next. Fox.
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to be said for spelling.
Speaker 4 (42:29):
Uh. Major League Baseball Hall of Fame.
Speaker 1 (42:32):
The new class was announced today to no one's surprise,
Echiro Suzuki uh nearly unanimous. Of course, one person didn't
vote for eachro for some unknown reason.
Speaker 4 (42:44):
It was not Rob Parker.
Speaker 1 (42:47):
Said, now it could be a parody account that that
voted somehow voted for that didn't.
Speaker 3 (42:54):
He works for just.
Speaker 4 (42:58):
It's pretty good. Uh So we talked about that.
Speaker 1 (43:01):
We'll get into that part of it a little bit
later because something a little bit different here about the
class this year. That's Etro Suzuki, c CE, Sabbathia and
Billy Wagner.
Speaker 4 (43:10):
And you know, every.
Speaker 1 (43:10):
Time, you know, the Hall of Fame comes up and
it's and it's you know, here's Echiro and Sabbathia and
Billy Wagner.
Speaker 4 (43:16):
Like it makes me.
Speaker 1 (43:16):
It makes me feel old, like not many things in
sports make me feel old when I think about seeing
someone's career fully as an adult that is fifteen eighteen
years not like, hey, I remember when I was a
teenager and I watched airk career and you know they
finished when I was thirty whatever, But like when I'm
a full blown thirty year old man and somebody else's
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career starts, and I remember it because I was a
full blown adult, the whole thing. And then we talk
about their Hall of Fame. It makes you feel old, like, yeah,
and I remember everything about.
Speaker 4 (43:46):
This guy's career.
Speaker 1 (43:47):
It's not like these hazy memories like when you're eleven
or twelve and I thought this happened. I thought he
had a home run that was seven hundred and fifty
feet turned out to be three hundred and seventy five feet.
Speaker 4 (43:56):
But this is, yeah, Echiro Sabbathia Wagner.
Speaker 1 (43:58):
These are all guys like my entire life, my thirties
and forties. Yeah, watch them play and watch them play
really well for a long time. Not much makes me
feel old.
Speaker 4 (44:08):
This does, Yeah.
Speaker 5 (44:09):
Oftentimes for me, it's when the juniors start finding their
way into the game, right, because we're old enough that
we watched a lot of Ken Griffy Senior right in
his final years of playing in Cincinnati and New York
and whatever. And then Junior came along, had his whole career.
He's been retired forever.
Speaker 4 (44:27):
And in the Hall of Fame forever.
Speaker 5 (44:29):
So you have that, But now you see so many
like college football players. We watched their dad's whole careers
and now there they are on.
Speaker 4 (44:39):
The grid iron.
Speaker 5 (44:40):
But yes, certainly I remember Inchro coming to the US,
What a huge deal that was he and Albert Poolholes
in two thousand and one. And we're watching these guys
iss grown ass men, one you know, who'd been played
seven years in the pros in Japan, the other coming
into Saint Louis and and watching them just dominate from
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day one, watching their whole careers and thinking about how
long I mean, that's five years retired. Like I'm looking
at the class for next year, I'm.
Speaker 4 (45:09):
Like, that guy's been on a baseball for five years already.
Come on.
Speaker 1 (45:14):
Yeah, But you know, but the thing is about the class,
because this is another big thing is that you know,
you hear we make fun with Jason Cole and call
you vote for the Hall of Very Good, the Hall
of very Good. But quite honestly, when I look at
the careers of CC Sabbathia and Billy Wagner Metsio, uh,
these guys were really really good, but were.
Speaker 4 (45:33):
They Hall of famers?
Speaker 1 (45:34):
Like like you have to be it's gotta not even
be a debate, like you're a Hall of Famer or
you're not. And you know, I don't mean from the
perspective of all Billy Wagner on the ballot for the
last time and now finally he gets in. Look, I
get the I get the business of baseball, and that, hey,
it looks bad if we have a Hall of Fame
year where only one person goes in, it looks like
it looks like it's a bad year for baseball. We
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had nobody else worthy of the Hall of Fame. So
and that's a big benefit for a lot of players
who have a borderline resume, is that, hey, the sport
wants to make it look like they have they have
stars everywhere, So we want to put it at least
three people every year, at least five. We want to
get as many people in as possible every single year.
Can't have a year where just one person gets in,
because honestly, eachiro this should have been he gets in, right,
(46:18):
you know, And and and the fact that Sabbathia and
Billy Wagner get in. Look, CC Sabathia was really good.
And now to get in the Hall of Fame, it's
pretty simple. If you're really good over a long period
of time, and the end of your career, isn't I'm
falling off the cliff.
Speaker 4 (46:35):
And sometimes doesn't matter if.
Speaker 1 (46:36):
You do that, because you look get a guy like
Miguel Cabrera, like the guy last ten years, but it
doesn't matter.
Speaker 4 (46:40):
Look at what he did the first ten years. But
like you know, like CC Sabathia.
Speaker 1 (46:45):
He played nineteen years in the league, you know, twelve
years as e er was over three and a half.
You know, forget about the wins. The wins are impressive.
Two hundred and fifty one wins is pretty good. But
he was always a pretty good pitcher. And you know,
he had a good three three or four year run
without Sabathia is really really good. But the vast majority
of the time he was an average pitcher. I'm not
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even asking to have an ERA under three, you know,
or under under two or so you have an ERA minuscuitant. No,
but his ERA was over three and a half, twelve
out of his eighteen years. Like Billy Wagner, you know,
hardly ever led the league in anything. You know, as
a closer. Yes, he's got great over the course of
his career, and his batting average that he's given up
to opponents over players who have faced over eight hundred
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batters in their careers the lowest, Like you can look
anywhere for stats to find something, but when you look
at the over the longevity of nineteen years, two hundred
and fifty one wins, like, that's what's gonna do it
because baseball to stop being able to put in a
lot of stars because of the Mitchell era and all
the steroids. A Rod's not getting in, Bonds, Clemens, all
these guys aren't getting in. But they want to be
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able to keep putting players in because they want to
make it look like we still have great players. So
you're in a sweet spot now where there's a lot
of players the last few years where I go, yeah,
I don't know, man, Yeah, I mean really they were.
But when I see somebody, oh, you're a seven time
All Star, well, you played nineteen years, so that meant
like every three years you were good enough to be
an All Star, Like like that's something that stands out
(48:10):
to me. And and you know, Casey's a mathean his
and his era three out of every four years was
was pedestrian at best, which is really what you want
to measure a picture by.
Speaker 4 (48:20):
What's his era? Look like, what's his whip look like?
Speaker 1 (48:22):
And his whip wasn't great, right, his whip was up
near one point three for his career, But he won games,
he was popular, and he was someone that was able
to stay in the rotation for a long time. Even
at the end of his career when as era is
up over four, he's still able to make twenty five
to thirty starts for the Yankees, and and and that's
that's a big thing, just being healthy enough to make
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all these starts and to not be to the point where, hey,
your record is two and nine, your e RA is
five and a half, you're either in the bullpen or
releasing you. All you have to do is just be
okay enough to not get a demotion and and and
you can wind up putting together.
Speaker 4 (48:59):
Enough stay that's a point nineteen years. Here's where we
vote people in.
Speaker 1 (49:02):
I mean, so that's really what it's become is that
if you're if you're really good for a long period
of time, of course you're going to assimilate numbers and
it's gonna look like you had an amazing career. But
when when I can sit back and make an argument
against you, just as much as I can make one
for you. Are you really a Hall of Famer? Like
I said, I can make the argument against cacuz A Bathea,
I just did. I make the one against Billy Wagner.
Speaker 4 (49:24):
I just did.
Speaker 1 (49:25):
Can't make one against Eachiro Suzuki hall of Famer. I
mean it should be that easy. Yes, there are borderline
cases here and there where it's, man, I don't know this.
This guy did this and then like Craig Bgo three
thousand hits? Did he really have? Was he really that great?
Or was he just able to play second base for
a long time and be able to hold the job
down and be steady?
Speaker 3 (49:45):
Right?
Speaker 1 (49:45):
Like, is that a Hall of Fame? Like that's a
big debate, right, that's about three thousand. It's is a
magic number, man, you know, but I mean when I
can make an argument for you, I get that the
new thing is just Hey, if I play fifteen eighteen years,
you know, seven or eight All Star appearances and I
don't wind up, you know, falling off the cliff at
the end. Yeah, I got a great case for the
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Hall of Fame, and I'll probably make it because because
Baseball wants to put players in, they hit it. They
hit the skids with the steroid era, and they went
through a lot of years where people didn't get in.
So now I want to just keep putting players and
keep putting players in, even players now who didn't get
in that are the big senior candidates like Dave Parker
got in, And I was like when I were Dave
Parker when I was a kid, I was so scared.
Dave Parker was such a big, fearsome hitter, and he
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had a great army.
Speaker 4 (50:28):
They would play the Cobras thing every time he came up.
Speaker 1 (50:30):
You'll get Dave Parker's numbers, Like, Okay, Dave Parker was good,
but he played a long time, and he was able
to hold onto his starting job and play one hundred
and forty games. And when you can do that, of
course you're gonna hit. If you have some kind of talent,
you're gonna hit twenty some odd home runs. You're gonna
knock in eighty runs or seventy five runs. That's pretty good,
but it's not Hall of Fame. But the line has
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blurred so much to the point where players know, if
I just have a really good career for fifteen to
eighteen years, and I can just hold on to my job.
I can stay healthy and play one hundred and forty games.
I got a great shot to get in the Hall
of Fame.
Speaker 4 (51:04):
Yeah, I mean it's we come back to aggregation.
Speaker 5 (51:09):
The whole Mitchell era, right, the Mitchell Report itself seems
to be discarded, and it was right.
Speaker 4 (51:18):
They said, Hey, we were just trying to get a survey.
Speaker 5 (51:20):
But you know, the information got leaked, some got affected,
some didn't. Some wag their fingers at Congress and were
stat aggregators and later failed tests. And then you have
to decide, you know, it was the time, did you
hold it against it? You know, some get up on
their little soap boxes and keep wagging their fingers. They
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never gave back the millions they made calling those games
and turning a blind eye.
Speaker 4 (51:46):
You know when everybody.
Speaker 5 (51:48):
Talked about how much more access you had back then.
Speaker 4 (51:51):
Yeah, you didn't know what was going on. I guys,
I wave at all of.
Speaker 5 (51:57):
You as you go through, but you know, and then
selectively deciding which guys you like from that era, which
you don't.
Speaker 6 (52:04):
You know.
Speaker 5 (52:04):
Sammy Sosi has now been embraced by the Cubs. Does
that mean they'll embrace him back in Major League baseball
in the voting, Yeah, probably not Kurt Shilling. You don't
like his politics, so you leave him out because he's
a guy that his numbers would match up with Sabbathia
and all these other guys. Right, So it just becomes
at times a bit arbitrary as to how you because.
Speaker 4 (52:26):
It's look, it's loaded with scoundrels.
Speaker 5 (52:27):
We've always talked about that, and now we get into,
you know, aggregation versus domination.
Speaker 6 (52:33):
Right.
Speaker 5 (52:34):
The next on the active players list for pitching for wins,
Garrett Coles at one hundred and fifty three wins is
two hundred the new threshold for longevity and history and
the curiosity for me though Jason comes with the people
that are voting for it, like it's one thing that
it goes to a committee of former managers and ball players,
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and they may see a guy's value is different than
what's just on the back of the baseball card, like
a Dave Parker or a Dick Allen that go in
this year versus Billy Wagner's been on that for ten years,
and I like Billy Wagger.
Speaker 1 (53:13):
I'm happy he gets in. Right, he was like five
foot nothing like me. Five He could throw ninety eight
miles an hour.
Speaker 5 (53:19):
I meant cannon for an arm of longevity, all that stuff,
and what eighth all time saves and whatever else like
I'll start stumping from Mark Burley while I'm at it,
while we're having these conversations. But it's just that idea
of when you get to the Veterans Committee in those
then I understand all right, now it's you're looking at
it through a different lens. But when it's a hey,
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he's been on the ballot for ten years, it's his
last year and he gets in. That's why I raised
my hand and go, why'd you come over this year?
Why not year nine? Why not your aid? Why did
it take all these years to convince you to get
to critical mass next year? Is interesting because you look
at all the first time ballot guys. Here's not a
single one of those guys that you say, all right,
(54:02):
he's getting in. No, suddenly Andrew Jones gonna pop over.
Speaker 1 (54:07):
Yeah, the threat that's why the vote, that's why the
voting gets to be the way it is, because what
it should be is that listen, do we really have
that many players that should make the Hall of Fame?
Speaker 6 (54:16):
No?
Speaker 4 (54:16):
You know what?
Speaker 1 (54:17):
Vote for the top three this year. Right, vote for
your top three, and then see how many people don't
get in. But no, vote for your top ten, and
maybe somebody can get enough votes whatever, and you can
squeak them through. When here's on the thing top ten,
you gotta rank him, you gotta rank him, you gotta put.
Speaker 4 (54:31):
Them on this list.
Speaker 1 (54:32):
And yeah, Andrew Jones will probably wind up getting way
more votes because he's close. He might be the Billy
Wagner of next year.
Speaker 4 (54:38):
He's the guy that if he stopped playing after ten years,
he'd be in the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 8 (54:41):
But well, those final five years really bad. I mean,
it got him over the four hundred homer threshold, but
that didn't mean what it did to us twenty five
years ago. Now, I mean the four hundred home run
club was a big deal. Yeah, sure it well, yeah,
five hundred. I mean it was rarefied air. We're talking,
you know, and all those guys like it's greatness. And
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then four hundred became the threshold, and then now.
Speaker 4 (55:06):
What is it? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (55:08):
I mean, look, Baseball's put in the way they have
the voting. They've greased the skids so we can get
more people in, right, and and I under I understand
what they're doing. It's just very difficult to say, hey,
Eachiro and CC Sabbathia and Billy Wagner, like okay, I mean,
come on, man, Like there's it's almost like it should
be like tiers of the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 4 (55:29):
Like it like like Sanders Coach like like like the like.
Speaker 1 (55:33):
There should be Hey, there's a top tier Hall of
Fame that players like Eachiro get in.
Speaker 4 (55:37):
Then it could be the next tier where like C. C.
Speaker 1 (55:40):
Sabathia gets in and Billy Wagner gets in, but that
top tier for like Rivera and Jeter and you know,
and each You're all like that needs to be some
sort of thing. Hey, you know, we're we're we're up
here now, okay, just so you know, this special wing
of the Hall of where we're special Hall of famers.
These guys are the Hall of Fame. However you want
to do it, because just when you say, oh, wow,
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you compare Eachro to the two of them, it's like, wow, Okay,
there's really no comparison, right, none of them. Neither of
them dominated like Eachiro did for the time of his career.
Not that they weren't good, but again, it's Hall of
fame rights. That's one of the big sayings that I've
always prescribed to a Hall of fame, not hall of
very good and right hall of fame. It should be easy,
it should be an easy thing. But this is what
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you get when you baseball wants keep putting people in.
Just again, play fifteen plus years. Don't lose your job. Stay, stay,
stay where you can. Just be solid, and you will
put up enough numbers and get credit for.
Speaker 4 (56:33):
The Hall of Fame. Well that get us into the
Radio Hall of Fame. Make it. Make an all star
team every three or four years. You're good. That's all
you need to do. Every three or four years. It's fine.
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Mike Hart. I gotta tell you the first thing I
did when I found out that Eachiro, Suzuki, Eiro, cc Sabathia,
Billy Wagner, Metsio get into the Hall of Fame. And
the big topic right away, obviously, is Eachiro is one
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vote away from being unanimous, which who didn't vote for Eachiro?
I mean, come on, first thing I did was I
texted Rob Parker. I said, dude, you voted for each Hero, right?
He texted me back loll of course. I said, you
should tell everybody it was you, even though it think
just going to tell everybody it was you, because if
(01:37):
you if I put that out on social media, said hey,
I got a feeling Rob Parker was the guy who
didn't vote for you. That would take off. People go, oh,
look at that. He works with him, he knows him.
He would say Rob Parker didn't vote for Eachiro. I
could absolutely have made that happen.
Speaker 4 (01:51):
It would be the greatest heal turn that you could
possibly take.
Speaker 5 (01:55):
And that's why you know there is an account that
is a Mets beat rioter that claims to be the guy,
but we haven't been able to corroborate that. But to
be able to be the one to go out and say, yeah,
full heel, I'm gonna be that guy.
Speaker 4 (02:10):
Man.
Speaker 5 (02:10):
Remember all those years ago the Shaquille O'Neill vote unanimous,
but one there was Fred Hickman.
Speaker 4 (02:19):
Was it not? So?
Speaker 5 (02:20):
I mean, you know you've got you've got circumstances in
the past, and then.
Speaker 4 (02:24):
Well defend it. Right, if you want to defend it,
have at it.
Speaker 5 (02:27):
If it's just you don't think the guy and anybody
should ever go in you know, unanimous, or you don't
like the first ballad idea because guys in the past
weren't unanimous.
Speaker 4 (02:39):
Get over yourself. For one h two it's a museum
U three.
Speaker 5 (02:43):
Uh they you cost him this guy, I mean, that's
an extra inscription. Man, that's an extra hundred bucks of
signature for the rest of his life. Unanimous. Now, now
here's the thing. Now here's here's what's come out in
the last hour. Because as soon as I saw, of
course the Mets are going to keep each.
Speaker 4 (02:59):
From the right from a unanimous all of vabe the Mets.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
Now, according to this bio on Twitter, and it seems
I'm saying this seems legit. There's a guy named Mark
Gooden who says he's a senior VP beat writer for
the National Inquirer. Three times POLLUTU and all this stuff.
Hall of Fame voter says didn't vote for Eachiro. So
he actually has that in his profile that he didn't
vote for Eachiro. So this is out there and and
(03:26):
and you know, and it looks like that's who it's
signed by. When when you see some of the some
of the ballots that are out there, that looks like
that's who signed it and printed his name.
Speaker 4 (03:37):
So I don't know, you know.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
I mean, he actually says on his Twitter account, I'm
the senior beat writer. I didn't vote for eachiro. So
I mean he's starting to wear it, I think a
little bit. But I you know, I don't know, man,
I mean really, I mean, there's been no real confirmation
other than this sky's saying it was me.
Speaker 4 (03:54):
It was me. I did I did it. I did it.
I did it. I did it. I did it. That's
like the guy that's like the dream cop at.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
The end of the TV show where the person just
comes in and confesses and says, yeah, I did it.
Speaker 4 (04:04):
Well, tell us why. Okay, I'll tell you why.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
All the things you're never supposed to do, right, don't
don't admit anything, don't tell the plane does not Only.
Speaker 4 (04:11):
Am I gonna admit I'll tell you why I did it?
Speaker 1 (04:13):
Yeah, you want me to write it down and make
a statement, Sure, I'll unburden myself.
Speaker 4 (04:16):
So, I mean, it seems like this is who it is.
But I mean, uh, but just this whole, this whole, this.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
Whole stink of hey, Mets guy keeping each room for
the Hall of.
Speaker 4 (04:28):
Fame, we're getting in unanimously.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
I'm like, really, each row is a guy you voted for,
for good, for U, for Rivera. Right, you couldn't, Mets
guy couldn't keep Rivera from getting unanius.
Speaker 4 (04:38):
No, no, no no, but we're gonna have We're gonna.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
Not vote for each row on here, which I mean,
come on, man, I mean seriously, the guy had two
hundred hits every year's first ten years in the majors.
Speaker 4 (04:49):
He didn't get to the major till he was twenty seven.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
Right, he may have been the great Him, Him and
Ricky Henderson are probably the greatest top of the lineup
hitters that I have ever seen in my life. I
don't think anybody's gonna dispute that from you. He was
terrific defensively as well. I don't know what you want
three thousand hits if he has a full major league career, right,
if he's somehow able to come over from Japan early
and I gotta wait, you gotta play and get posted.
(05:12):
We see this now with Sasaki and Young Modo last year.
But if he was able to come over when he
was twenty two, right, let's see he comes over when
he's twenty seven and he gets two hundred hits a year.
Let's just let's just go conservative and say, Okay, two
hundred hits a year for him from the age of
twenty two to twenty seven. He's probably breaking Pete Rose's
hit record. He's probably he's probably topping forty two fifty six.
(05:33):
But no, no, no, I'm not voting. I'm not voting
for each Heiro on thet I just won't. I mean,
I mean I did to vote for Chase Utley, right, Like,
I mean, what'd you do? Like how'd you treat this?
I don't understand, Like, like, who are you voting for.
Speaker 4 (05:46):
On this ballot? Ahead of each Eero Sazo? Yeah? Was
anybody else get voted for ahead of each row?
Speaker 6 (05:51):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (05:51):
It is interesting because he's followed by a bunch of
baseball writers. National Inquirer not in right inquir is the
tabloid Inquirer just says a very real periodical that employs
two good and seventeen, a great publication that has two
hundred and thirty one followers, So I think it's parody
(06:12):
and he's having fun with it and he's creating a
heel accounts.
Speaker 4 (06:16):
Yeah maybe maybe, But all of that.
Speaker 5 (06:18):
To say, there is somebody out there that really should
at least give us the rationale as to why you
didn't want Ichro Suzuki to be immortalized as the unanimous
you know, because we've already got one, right, we got
Mariano Rivera, so that's our We've already broken that barrier.
(06:39):
And certainly you go back in the annals of history
and you had some silliness where we have you know,
so many guys that didn't vote for Maze or go
back to the inaugural class didn't vote for Babe Ruth.
So plenty of precedents of stupidity about pettiness amongst writers.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
Yeah, because here because it's the National Inquir not the
nationally No.
Speaker 5 (06:59):
That's Inquire. Look at what their bio says on their
Twitter account.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
Yeah, and it says employer of Mark Gooden, who is
who has owned this? So it's like, what the hell
is it really like Batman? Occasionally I do update it there.
I mean, just got to keep people guessing. I don't
want to give the true identity. But here's the thing, like, like,
like is this if you find out it's somebody else
and this is a you know, it's a satirical account
(07:24):
and everything else you find this out, like what do.
Speaker 4 (07:27):
You you know what?
Speaker 1 (07:29):
Like, like does it ever go away that, oh, Mets
guy didn't vote for each your oat right, Because that's
the first thing you hear, right, Mets guy didn't vote
for guys like Mike Puma who've covered the Mets for
a long time.
Speaker 4 (07:38):
They're gonna get you didn't vote for each your o Puma. No,
not me. I didn't do it. I didn't No, that's right.
Speaker 5 (07:45):
Yeah, it's it's now always going to be Mets guy,
salty Mets guys.
Speaker 4 (07:49):
Guy who voted for Chase Utley. Yeah, yeah, I mean
I I don't understand. I mean, one guy on his ballot.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
Here's the other thing, like, like you have to you
have to cover baseball for a long time. You gonna
do a lot of things to be able to vote
for the Hall of Fame. Like I really, I mean,
I can't believe we haven't gotten more on this story
outside of this guy saying it was me it was me.
I'm looking for attention, Like, I can't believe we haven't
gotten that. Like, I think this guy is legit, you know,
for whatever this is, whatever he does, But is this
(08:15):
a real publication?
Speaker 4 (08:16):
What is he?
Speaker 1 (08:16):
Is he really right? Is he telling the truth about
what he's doing? Like, I think the guy is legit,
but what he does and actually having a vote.
Speaker 4 (08:22):
Like who knows? Man? I mean, who knows well?
Speaker 5 (08:25):
The Baseball Writers' Association of America. I mean it's ballot
number two fifty five was the one from twenty twenty
one that he posted up there. So, uh, same thing here,
let's look at the ballot. Yeah, but is it his
bat off a film? It's cut off to where you
don't have a number on this one. Yeah, because then
you'dn't be able to corroborate and they'd be able to
(08:46):
just say, well, this was turned in by and registered
to X, you know what I mean. So, whether this
is legit or not, it makes for great fodder because
now it's the great mystery. We could do this as well,
you know, a a podcast of all the great travesties
in voting history for different awards and systems.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
Oh, Fred Hickman not voting for Shack right when he
was going to be unanimous MVP and Fred Hickman voted
for Alan ivers and I remember it his MVP ceremony,
Shack said, I want to thank everybody for this, even
a guy who didn't vote for me, like he had
fun with it going. I could have been unanimous at no. No, no,
I'm voting for Alan Iverson for MVP. I mean, the
bottom line is somebody didn't vote for no matter how
(09:30):
cut it up, right, Like, what's worse for Major League
Baseball that somebody who you know, if if it's a
parody account and somebody had a real vote and didn't
vote for him, or is it just somebody who covered
the game for a long time and doesn't feel like
each Ro's a Hall of Famer. That's like lose lose
because either you have the hey, you're not really taking
care of your house where some kind of parody account
(09:51):
or whoever it is is going to come in and
vote and you allow them to have a vote, or
oh yeah, you actually employ someone that doesn't think each
Rosuzuki is a Hall of Famer.
Speaker 4 (09:58):
Well you're already.
Speaker 1 (09:59):
I don't know, I don't know what the worst one
is I don't know. And again I keep want to
put out there. I'm just gonna keep telling people it
was Rob Parker. I'm just gonna keep No.
Speaker 4 (10:06):
That's good. But I mean you've got to we've got.
Speaker 5 (10:09):
This with the when we used to have the balloting
for you know, the college football you know coaches Paul Hey, uh,
sid filled this out. Okay, cool, Uh, but it's attributed
to the coach. Or you've got Heisman voters, or in
baseball for the Hall of Fame, people that haven't been
(10:29):
on the beat forever, their legacy plays. They may not
watch a game in a month, but they're voting on
the Hall of Fame. Hell, you got guys that profess
to watch all the time. It's like, all right, who
is their league? Nah, I got nothing for you. So
it's it's unfortunately, it's a necessary evil unless you want
to go to full on veteran Paul players and change
(10:54):
up how you're doing that, Like they have those committees.
Once you're off the ballot altogether, right and you're ten
years alive. But in the interim, yeah, you got to
clean up your house because one way or another, this
is making a laughing stock of your process, not because
someone didn't put eachro on, but I may put your
name on it. The old j Moore when he was
(11:15):
with us here at Fox Sport's radio, that was that
was to drop you to here a hundred times in
a prof.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
Try put some respect on it, and that puts, you know,
absolutely late. I think Jane Moore got d' Angela Russell traded.
I guarantee it. I guarantee that was the guy.
Speaker 5 (11:29):
He probably had the final say, waved his finger and
made it so. But but legitimately it's the all right,
we want to know, like more curious at this point.
Speaker 4 (11:38):
Yeah, it's who it is.
Speaker 5 (11:40):
But give me some sort of rationale of why other
than just because I didn't want to. Yeah, I mean,
I don't know, hiding behind some parody clients. I don't
know what I really I don't know what's works for baseball.
If hey, we're not taking care of our own house
and we let some crazy you know, get in here
and not vote for Eatro or oh no, no, the
(12:00):
guys we trust implicitly one of our guys didn't vote
for each Like, I don't know.
Speaker 4 (12:04):
I don't know any of the game. I don't know
like I'm trying to think, like if I had a
big fan.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
I got a bunch of kids, right, I have a
bunch of kids, and let's say one of my kids
gets busted for stealing a mailbox.
Speaker 4 (12:18):
Right in theory, right, let's.
Speaker 3 (12:19):
Like father like son. Yeah, like apple doesn't fall.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
Too far from the tree. Right, Let's say one of
my kids gets busted.
Speaker 5 (12:24):
Right, has Zoe ever been called to the principal's office?
You know, the backpack full of knickknacks and a sort
of chotchkes.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
No her friends, But boy, I stole mailboxes. I got
license plates in my backpack.
Speaker 4 (12:37):
What do you need?
Speaker 1 (12:38):
It's like, like, what's words if I had a big fan,
Like he said, Okay, one of your kids is but
god stole a mailbox? Oh my god, I told my kids.
I told that story. What was really funny one night?
Like what I wanted to be Hey, the kid who's
always in trouble that you would kind of expect it from,
and boy, I really needed to keep a better eye
on the kid or the kid who's got all the
straight a's.
Speaker 4 (12:56):
That I trusted.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
Hey, Hey, it's our shining example going to get a
scholarship to college, Like like like, what's more, what's more embarrassing?
Which kid stealing, the stealing the mailbox in line would
be more embarrassing.
Speaker 4 (13:07):
I gotta think it's I gotta think it's worse for
I don't know, I don't know.
Speaker 5 (13:11):
No, it's it's be because now you got two delinquents.
Yeah no, but but I'm but I'm just thinking that, actually,
and what did that guy get away with all the
other years before he finally got caught?
Speaker 4 (13:20):
But where's the other you were had a close eye
on him. He was only getting so far.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
Dad, Let me, Dad, let me tell you this, this
whole mailbox saying that's the that's the tip of the iceberg.
Speaker 4 (13:31):
Don't wait, hip deep in, don't ask me what you
don't want to know.
Speaker 5 (13:36):
Remember when I asked, asked our next door neighbor, I
wanted a little extra closet space.
Speaker 4 (13:41):
Yeah, he actually built a false wall here. Watch this.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
I just feel like he'd be sitting there like McConaughey
in the first season of True Detective is making the
things with the beer cans and talking about Dora Lang
and all that. What's going on here? Time is a
flat circle? What do you tell telling me? What do
you did you did you vote for eachro or not?
I don't understand.
Speaker 5 (14:04):
It's so great, but it's it's just a great mythology
that now em and hs from this. And if I'm
Rob Parker or one of the other nine million voters
or whatever the number of visual number is at this point,
I think that's Heisman voters. I would want an answer.
I would want the Writers' Association of America to follow
up on this again. Uh as much of why didn't
(14:28):
someone vote for Intro? As a do we have a
problem in our system where a guy on a parody account.
Speaker 4 (14:34):
Who might have been legit at one point I don't.
Speaker 5 (14:36):
Know right exactly, like yeah, like that he kept a
vote and now he's made he's clowning us all.
Speaker 4 (14:41):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
It's like this, It's like the spy TV shows. Is
it worse that that that the the assassin is evading
the the or is it worse that there's a mole
from inside?
Speaker 4 (14:50):
Like like what's worse? Like we can't get the guy
like then he.
Speaker 5 (14:52):
Got through our writing process and he's now already.
Speaker 4 (14:56):
He's so smart he's eliminating everybody.
Speaker 1 (14:59):
We can't get Eddie Redmain or oh we actually have
somebody working against.
Speaker 5 (15:05):
The fact that you got someone called the Jackal? Is
that really all you're trying to do? Whitname?
Speaker 1 (15:12):
Why did we play the Jackal song by Ronnie Jordan?
Coming back, Tyson will find that in a couple of minutes,
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We'll break down the rest of the Hall of Fame
and just why you have to just shrug your shoulders
and say Hall of Fame is what it is. But
coming up next all the big news from the NFL.
It's a Jason Locke in for a Tuesday, Special time,
special day for him. As we take a look at
everything going on, Are we really going to see an
upset in the conference championship games this weekend?
Speaker 4 (15:59):
Are we ever going to see the Cowboys hire a
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What was starting to see some coaches get retained. Kevin
O'Connell agree to a multi year extension with the Vikings. Today,
Josh McDaniels is coming back to the Patriots as offensive coordinator,
(17:59):
but the Cowboys still don't have a head coach.
Speaker 4 (18:01):
Oh what's next?
Speaker 1 (18:06):
So the best way to break that down? I love
Ai Jerry Jones. We head the Hotline. Welcome inside. Longtime
friend of the show Odyssey one O five seven the
fan in Baltimore, Washington Post NFL insider Jason lock and
For he's on Twitter at Jason lock and For. I
can confirm Jason lock and For was not the person
(18:26):
who did not vote for Eachiro for the Hall of
Fame today, James want to get that out there, I
don't want if he's asking you about.
Speaker 6 (18:31):
That, yeah, not me, not me. I mean he kind
of figured one person or a couple of people would
do it though, right, I mean, just seems to be
the times we're living it all.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
Right, So we're talking the head coaching situations here. Yeah, okay,
we thought Kevin O'Connell would get his contract extension. Here
comes Josh McDaniels back with the Patriots. The Cowboys seem
like they're gonna choose between Kellen Moore and Brian Shott.
I mean, tell me, tell me, Jerry Jones, tell me,
tell me, tell me. This is not who Jerry Jones
fired Mike McCarthy for Jay.
Speaker 6 (19:07):
I won't believe it until I say it. That just
seems like such an incredible cop out all the way around,
and not that he's not capable of it, because again,
he just wants something he can sell, or just something
he can push around, something that will provide no pushback,
(19:27):
something of an empty vessel that he can coach the
team through. And boy, either of those HighRes would be
just that. I mean, he didn't walk Kellen Moore running
his offense anymore, you know, seemingly ten minutes ago and
nobody's wanting shot. And when they've had him running it,
(19:47):
they've generally decided, you know, within a season or two later,
that yeah, that's not for us. And then the what
kind of staffs are those two are going to put together? Like,
I don't know, man, Look this is this is these
(20:09):
are feastoms and if you know, the guy running that
village wants to do something that seemingly no sound football
person would do, there's no way to stop them. So
I I part of me, the common sense part of me,
(20:29):
is like, some of this is just travel and some
of this is just grandstanding. And then if beyond ride
General white Horse, it's going to be even more. You know,
look at us, I fool they all, but I don't know, man,
like like I don't know, my god, Yeah, good luck,
(20:55):
good luck.
Speaker 4 (21:00):
Held down.
Speaker 5 (21:00):
They make the big splash Jason as they go, and
they get Ben Johnson in reported thirteen million dollars a year.
The hard knocks they did with the Bear stunk. I
want to see the inner workings of this and the
pitch they made to McCaskey to spend the money.
Speaker 6 (21:17):
Yeah, look, they they've got the quarterback. He knows that Demons,
you know, pretty well for preparing to face them twice
a year. He also knows the best team in the
division really well for leading their offense the past a
few years. So it makes a lot of sense in
that regard. He was going to take a job this year.
(21:40):
He changed agents a while back, and you know, I
think his mindset had changed a little bit, and this
was he was taking, in all likelihood a job whether
you know, if they won a Super Bowl or you know,
went out the first round. So I don't think there
is an influence at all by how the season ended.
This is already headed towards that track. And you know,
(22:03):
his representation, Rick Smith put together that thing in Detroit.
Nobody wanted to go to Detroit coming out of the
dregs of you know, Matt Patricia and all that and
nobody's won in Detroit forever, and nobody took Detroit seriously
and Ben Johnson was part of a thing there that
turned Detroit around. So I have serious reservation about Ryan
(22:27):
Poles as the general manager. But Ryan Poles is the
guy to be able to build that offensive line out
the way it needs to be built. And we'll see
how long you know that part of the marriage last.
I would think Ryan Poles, you know, better have one
hell of an offseason because if they don't, how are
you going to let him keep picking players for this
young head coach. I just don't think that's going to happen. So,
(22:50):
you know, good luck with this free agent class is
not all lot out there, so they're gonna have to draft, well,
they're gonna have to manipulate the draft board and maybe
move around a little bit. We'll see. But you know,
if you're Ben Johnson and you don't want to deal
with the chaos and craziness of the Jets, sorry, and
(23:10):
you don't want to go to New Orleans where they're
in salary cap hell, and they've got to gut that
thing still, And even though it's you know, a somewhat
weak division, there's not great talent there, and there's no
real great easy road to a quarterback Jacksonville. They've been
trying to hire him there for you know whatever, they've
(23:32):
wanted him in the past. Like, I just I don't
think he wants anything to do with that situation. And
the Raiders don't have a road to a quarterback. So yeah,
if you were going to take one this time around
of the ones that are out there, that's a pretty
good that's a pretty good one to take, I think.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
Jason looking for our guest Jason Smith, Mike Harmon lifrom
the tirec dot Com Studios. All right, speaking of now
off season, I can only imagine what the last thirty
six hours have been for you in Baltimore.
Speaker 4 (24:03):
Is it all Lamar's fault? Is it all Mark Andrews's fault? Like, like,
what's what's not all Lamar's fault?
Speaker 6 (24:09):
Yeah, I mean I don't know. You'd have to be
on a different planet to think of you.
Speaker 4 (24:11):
No, I mean, what what.
Speaker 1 (24:12):
Are people saying? No, no, no, Like, what are people saying
all Lamar can't come through? Is it all Mark Andrews
dropped the ball?
Speaker 6 (24:17):
Like? What is it?
Speaker 4 (24:18):
What is it there?
Speaker 6 (24:18):
Well, I mean I think it is. It's it's just
sort of consternation and confusion. Like the defense which last year,
not in twenty twenty four, but the twenty twenty two season,
you know, became the first in NFL history to lead
the league and points allowed, fact takeaways in Lamar, Like
(24:41):
in Lamar Jackson's playoff history, they created two turnovers. Like
so we can talk about early in Lamar's career when
he turned it over, but they have created two turnovers
and the entirety of his playoff existence. But how is that, like,
how is it possible? Like that just seems somewhat impossible.
And Lamar, whose first half wasn't is you know, wasn't
(25:03):
an ideal back in half was unbelievable. But Lamar has
two turnovers for the first time in the AFC Championship
game less, and he does it all in the first
half of the game. And again, he hadn't done it
to the Chiefs game a year ago. It's just it's
hard to secure. Mark Andrews has been one of their
(25:26):
most productive offensive players in the regular season in the
history of their organization. He's been a joke in the playoffs.
And it's not just this game I mean, you can
look at any metric to evaluate him regular season to postseason.
He's not the same guy. Got a twenty percent drop
rate in the playoffs, like he's got a five percent
to operate in the regular season. He's never had a
playoff touchdown, and he was a huge player at the
(25:49):
first game where he went over fifty yards receiving with
Lamar in a playoff game, and nobody's going to remember that.
They remember, you know, the two drops in the fumble.
So I think it's it's trying to make extensive of
all that of why a team an average seven point
three yards of play pulled Josh Allen one hundred and
forty seven total yards and four point six yards of
(26:10):
play as an offense, produced one hundred and fifty yards
more than the other team on the road in average
conditions and still lose. It's it's it's, you know, it's
kind of tough to sort out. It's another game where
they didn't run the ball in the ways that a
lot of people thought they would have should have, and
they didn't run it ultimately with the volume that a
(26:32):
lot of people would say they should have. Lamar's legs
not being activated at all not a single design run
for Lamar. Pretty bizarre. And so you know, they're really
good at finding ways to lose in the playoffs and
they're not good enough for finding ways to win.
Speaker 5 (26:50):
So when we talk again next week, Jason Locking for
Washington Post one five seven the Fan, Aaron Baltimore, who
are we talking about for two weeks and what storyline?
Speaker 4 (27:00):
As are we following to the Super Bowl?
Speaker 6 (27:03):
I mean, Patch Mahomes is sixteen and three in the playoffs,
so I'm not betting against team, you know, And are
the Bills going to turn them over three times? Because
I'm old enough to remember like around week nine when
Patrick Mahonmes was leading the league and in a substance,
and I don't be unthrown one. They haven't turn the
ball over, I don't think since that game against the Bill,
(27:24):
So I don't think they're handing this away. That's that's
not what they do. And that build defense, to me,
is really reliant on takeaways. And if the safeties are
beat up, mean Baltimore had throw the ball and Minogle
field all they wanted. They were split in the safeties
and you know Raps banged up the nickel guys banged
up now. I don't know, man, I don't think they're
(27:47):
beating the Chiefs and Narrowhead and then the other one. Man,
I'm not betting against Jade Daniels. I mean, I think
they can come out with an early game script Tyke,
an early lead, get the Eagles a little, get those fans.
Maybe turning on the Eagles forced the Eagle to open
it up more than maybe they'd like, Like they'd just
(28:08):
like to run, say Calon Barkley thirty times and you know,
win that game nine to seven if they had to.
But I don't think that's going to be in the cards.
I don't know. I mean, I know that they're not
going to blitz like crazy like they did the last
game against Washington. But still that happened this kid through
five touchdown passes on Vick Fangio's defense. You can't tell
me that's not in their heads a little bit, you
(28:29):
Knowing to Kobe Dean, I think is going to be
a problem. How healthy is Jayden Hurks? Like, are we
buying that he's anything close to healthy? Like, I don't
think he is. You're gonna practice this week? I'm not
so sure, you know, And you got Kuna Mitchell banged up.
You got a few people all banged up in their secondary.
I take Washington, and I know rookie quarterbacks in the
(28:49):
Agency championship game. This is where the story generally dies.
But I'm not sure that this kid done fucking conventional
wisdom yet.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
Are at Jason Lock and for that is at Jason
Lock and fora honesty Washington Post one five seven, Jay
as always, buddy, appreciated man.
Speaker 4 (29:07):
We'll talk to you next week after the games.
Speaker 6 (29:10):
My pleasure. Guys have a great week.
Speaker 4 (29:11):
Be good, buddy, Thank you. There goes Jason Lock, and
for I mean, yeah, I mean look that he's right
in that. Okay, Hey, Usually this is.
Speaker 1 (29:19):
Where we get to the end of a big run,
a magical run, because one great player against a great team. Generally,
the great team wins. Except that absolutely did not happen
last week, and the Lions are home because of it,
and especially now this week.
Speaker 4 (29:32):
Like I felt worse about the Commanders last week than
they do about them this week.
Speaker 1 (29:37):
Right, I felt worse about them last week. They're not
gonna win. They win now I feel really good about
them because the Eagles have all kinds of injury issues
and yeah, Jalen Hurts.
Speaker 4 (29:45):
I mean he couldn't move like he could. Well, you
saw his post the last last quarter of that game. Yeah,
his post game.
Speaker 5 (29:51):
He's standing there with Saquon Barkley and they ask him
about his injury.
Speaker 4 (29:54):
He goes, I finished the game.
Speaker 5 (29:56):
Yeah, oh, and like very tersely like asks something else.
Speaker 4 (30:00):
Yeah, I finished the game.
Speaker 1 (30:03):
I mean, okay, who I mean, get get ready. Roja
Warski could be coming in for a lot of this game.
Speaker 4 (30:08):
Oh, nicely done. Hurts gets hurt.
Speaker 1 (30:09):
Man, I'll tell you, uh the Jason Smiths TIREC dot
Com Studios. Oh yeah, yeah, I think you. I mean
I think he's actually going to be at the stadium
and if something happens, they give him the ghost sign
and he gets and he gets dressed, and he goes
down and comes out of the half time.
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Time Now to find out what's trending in the wide
world of sports. From special Delivery Steve de Sager. He
was the one who told the voter, hey, don't vote
for each your row. I really don't think he's a
Hall of Famer.
Speaker 3 (30:54):
My goodness, who was that for?
Speaker 7 (30:56):
Credl As I mentioned on the previous show, I'm a
fan of the sport and of.
Speaker 4 (31:00):
The Hall of Fame.
Speaker 7 (31:01):
You owe me an explanation for this, whoever you are.
Speaker 1 (31:04):
But again, I want to say, as soon as it
came out, I texted Rob Parker, you voted for Eachiro.
Speaker 4 (31:09):
He told me, yes, so it's not Rob Parker.
Speaker 6 (31:11):
Now.
Speaker 7 (31:12):
Rob's big thing was how are people voting for ten
people for.
Speaker 3 (31:15):
The Hall of Fame.
Speaker 7 (31:16):
Yeah, you know, legitimate question, some misselle. You're allowed to,
You are allowed to. Some voters today literally said out loud.
They did so only because they don't want some guys
to fall off the ballot, you know, getting under five
percent of the vote, they would automatically be off and
not considered for the ten years. And they want more
discussion at least on Brian McCann or whoever into the
(31:38):
Baseball Hall of Fame, Eachiro Suzuki, C C. Sabathia, and
Billy Wagner. Eachiro, mostly with the Mariners, had over three
thousand hits in the majors and five hundred stolen bases,
and won a Gold Glove in each of his first
ten years with Seattle.
Speaker 4 (31:54):
The vote was.
Speaker 3 (31:54):
Nearly unanimous for Suzuki, just one vote. Shy.
Speaker 7 (31:58):
By the way, you were talking football, nor key quarterback
has ever started a Super Bowl. Rookies in conference championships
are zero and five, including the losses by Mark Sanchez
and Joe Flacco years ago, or brock Perty who started
and of course didn't finish in recent years. But the
NFC Championship game is on Fox TV Sunday, three pm
Eastern Time, Washington at Philadelphia. They split their two regular
(32:20):
season meetings. Then the AFC title game is Sunday, Buffalo
at Kansas City. The Bills beat him in Buffalo in November.
The Chiefs have been nine to zero until then. This
is their fourth playoff meeting in the last five years,
and Kansas City's won the previous three. The New York
Jets talked to Lions defensive coordinator Aaron Glenn again today
and they're trying to finalize the deal. Glenn reportedly has
(32:43):
an offer. Dallas interviewed its offensive coordinator Brian Schottenheimer for
its head coach opening. The Cowboys have already interviewed Kellen Moore,
Robert Sola, Leslie Fraser. The Patriots are hiring Josh mcdaniels's
offensive coordinator for new head coach Mike Frable. New England
spoke with McDaniels today. By the way, New Orleans, due
to bad weather, rescheduled its interviews. Temperatures in the twenties
(33:05):
there tonight and some snow. New Orleans is going to
be hosting the Super Bowl in two and a half weeks,
but they say the temperature will be in the sixties
in a couple weeks when the media and the teams
are there for the week. The Vikings today gave head
coach Kevin O'Connell a contract extension to the NBA. The
Knicks won ninety nine to ninety five at Brooklyn Karl
Anthony Towns twenty five points sixteen rebounds. At Toronto, the
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Raptors were trailing Orlando in the first quarter thirty two
to eleven, and still came back to beat the Magic
one oh nine ninety three, Portland one at Miami won
sixteen one oh seven. There are two late games. Lakers
about to start at home against Washington, which has lost
ten in a row. Philadelphia has dropped six in a row,
and they're losing at Denver early second quarter forty three
(33:48):
to thirty two. Kawhi Leonard of the Clippers will miss
a second straight game tomorrow due to his bad knee,
and Cleveland's Evan Mobley will miss a third straight game
tomorrow due to a strained calf. Upset in college hoops,
so High State came back to win at number eleven
Perdue Yukon in overtime edge Butler. Currently, Arizona State is
leading at number twenty three West Virginia forty eight to
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Speaker 1 (35:10):
No aged, you know, I was watching television the other
day and like some of you, didn't know how to
spell eagles, Like that was a whole thing, you know,
spell eagles.
Speaker 4 (35:19):
I could do Fox Sports.
Speaker 1 (35:22):
Radio The Jason Smith Show with Mike Harmon live from
the Tirech dot Com Studios. Now, we had a pesky
thing called the National Championship Game last night in college football.
But now we're free and clear. We're free and clear
of that now, so now we can get into the
ongoing drama that is the Mayor of Philadelphia.
Speaker 4 (35:43):
This weekend.
Speaker 1 (35:44):
It's something that really just started to hit the mainstream
in the last few hours. The mayor of Philadelphia, Charrelle Parker,
is catching a lot of heat for a pregame Eagles
chant she tried to lead before their playoff game on Sunday.
Speaker 4 (36:02):
Now she has since.
Speaker 1 (36:03):
You sort of apologize for this, but you know what,
in case you don't know what we're talking about, let's
just play it for you.
Speaker 4 (36:09):
Here is the mayor trying to.
Speaker 1 (36:10):
Psych up the crowd a little press conference, get everybody
ready for the Eagles game on Sunday against the Rams.
Speaker 7 (36:16):
Hey, ow g.
Speaker 4 (36:20):
Yes, let's go birds, guys.
Speaker 3 (36:25):
Let's give her one more chance.
Speaker 4 (36:26):
Oh do you hear the chance to spell Eagles?
Speaker 6 (36:28):
Right?
Speaker 1 (36:28):
This is the mayor of Philadelphia. I understand another chance
of that because the e E A g l e
S is the Eagles chant, right, like j E T
s e A g l e s Eagles.
Speaker 4 (36:39):
Let let's give another chance to get it right?
Speaker 7 (36:41):
Hey, ow g.
Speaker 4 (36:45):
Yes, really e L G S l e s that's
el ghisles. Yeah. I don't understand.
Speaker 1 (37:02):
Now, hang on, she's worse because at least Tony Richardson
got the first three letters, like.
Speaker 4 (37:09):
He just went back the landing.
Speaker 1 (37:11):
Okay, yeah, but okay, j E T. It should just
be an S. But he did j E T. He
got the first three letters right. She bifted on the
second letter, she said. But someone might have held up
the card that had the wrong thing. I mean, there
might have been a bunch of people, you know, like
you know when you paint your chest and you're supposed
to stand in a line and you do it wrong.
Maybe that was what happened here. I need a starting
(37:32):
at people in the crowd. I need a card to
tell me how to spell eagles. I need a card.
Speaker 5 (37:36):
No, no, no, no, I'm not saying you do when
I'm saying maybe you were looking out and that's how
they were arranged. They had two l's even supposed to
be an A, and he just think somewhere and he
screwed me.
Speaker 1 (37:47):
Instead of with somebody holding an E, someone holding an A,
someone holding a G, it was someone holding an E.
Then the next person was holding an L, the next
person holding a G. The next person was an S,
then an L. Then even if they get the letters
around and they spelled gales or something like that, all
I know is she took me.
Speaker 4 (38:06):
Now.
Speaker 1 (38:06):
She did have a fun comment today she was She
actually talked about today in the Pursuit of perfection as
part of a press conference. She goes, Listen, you know
none of us are ever perfect. That we keep striving
for it, which is great. Here I know about perfection
since I didn't know how to spell eagles the other day.
But like this is this is like this is not
like E G, L E S. Like, oh, I forgot
(38:28):
the A. You know, this is not all I forgot
the A or I forgot the G. You know, I
missed a letter. This was I'm putting the wrong letter second,
and then I'm putting an S as the fourth.
Speaker 4 (38:38):
That are like, I'm missing like four letters here in this.
Speaker 1 (38:41):
I'm like them of the slots you can get eagles wrong,
She's missing like four of them.
Speaker 5 (38:45):
Hey man, this is like being on Wheel of Fortune
and you just have something in your head and it
goes haywire.
Speaker 1 (38:52):
Oh yeah, yeah, look at this epic fail on Wheel
of Fortune from last night.
Speaker 3 (38:56):
This is way worse, way worse.
Speaker 4 (38:58):
You know, because part of.
Speaker 1 (38:59):
Me thinks, not that I'm conspiracy theory, but boy, you know,
every week or so to keep Wheel of Fortune or
Jeopardy in the news, like there's a story of somebody
who really has a horrible epic fail to a question
that gains a lot of viral attention.
Speaker 4 (39:13):
I wonder, is that one hundred percent legit?
Speaker 6 (39:16):
Is?
Speaker 1 (39:17):
That?
Speaker 4 (39:17):
Is that biffing of it? One hundred percent legit? Really?
Speaker 5 (39:20):
All like this happens and it helps to prove the
point Frostbert was trying to make over a week ago.
Speaker 3 (39:26):
Oh yeah, Jason thought I was kidding.
Speaker 1 (39:29):
Oh no, no, no, she said nobody could read her, right, No,
I for you, clearly she needs to read that AJ
Brown book or maybe to start a little bit you know,
lower at that.
Speaker 4 (39:38):
But uh, you're count in thet.
Speaker 1 (39:40):
Yeah, because maybe because Elgasis that sounds like a name
from Lord of the Rings, like like we're going to
Els battling Sniegel in a prequel.
Speaker 4 (39:55):
Yes, I think you just invoked something from the Fifth
Ring of Hell E lgs E. I mean, I don't
know how that's what you get out of it. I
know it was really cold.
Speaker 1 (40:07):
I remembers that I have the shit, But wow, man,
I don't, I don't. I don't understand it. I don't
understand how that's how you bif that so badly.
Speaker 5 (40:18):
You know, we all have a bad day, bad moment,
and maybe it got some extra attention for some of
the pet projects because.
Speaker 4 (40:24):
People were curious how she would respond.
Speaker 5 (40:27):
So she Kensington Wellness Court and help get some extra
attention on it.
Speaker 1 (40:32):
So you think maybe, like when when people throw a
bad first pitch on purpose because it will gain notoriety
on the you look at the first pitch that Fitty
sent through, look at the first pitch so and so through,
because people will pay more attention if you just throw
it over the middle of the plate.
Speaker 4 (40:45):
So you think maybe this could have been a This could.
Speaker 1 (40:48):
Have been one of those Hey, I misspelled it, but
I didn't really Now you're paying attention to me. I
don't want to talk about rolling out my economic plan
for twenty twenty five.
Speaker 5 (40:54):
No, no, no, I think it was terribly botched. And
then what do you do when you break a few eggs? Hey,
we got any extra vegetables in there and maybe some leftover.
Speaker 4 (41:03):
Ham or something, so I can make an omelet. Yeah,
that's what we did here.
Speaker 5 (41:07):
Hey, I've got to go to this unveiling of a
wellness court and thing to help support people, maybe get
treatment instead of jail. Here's how I can make the
best out of my bad situation.
Speaker 1 (41:19):
Hashtag Elgas's Elvis ilgussag elgis.
Speaker 3 (41:23):
She's holding Karen Bosses beers.
Speaker 1 (41:25):
Oh, I tell you Frostburg off the top row. Coming
up next, something we haven't gotten to about today's Hall
of Fame voting and wife. You didn't get in the
Hall of Fame as a baseball player, don't worry, You'll
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Speaker 4 (41:39):
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to spelling later on, because I think there is something
to be said for spelling.
Speaker 4 (42:29):
Uh. Major League Baseball Hall of Fame.
Speaker 1 (42:32):
The new class was announced today to no one's surprise,
Echiro Suzuki uh nearly unanimous. Of course, one person didn't
vote for eachro for some unknown reason.
Speaker 4 (42:44):
It was not Rob Parker.
Speaker 1 (42:47):
Said, now it could be a parody account that that
voted somehow voted for that didn't.
Speaker 3 (42:54):
He works for just.
Speaker 4 (42:58):
It's pretty good. Uh So we talked about that.
Speaker 1 (43:01):
We'll get into that part of it a little bit
later because something a little bit different here about the
class this year. That's Etro Suzuki, c CE, Sabbathia and
Billy Wagner.
Speaker 4 (43:10):
And you know, every.
Speaker 1 (43:10):
Time, you know, the Hall of Fame comes up and
it's and it's you know, here's Echiro and Sabbathia and
Billy Wagner.
Speaker 4 (43:16):
Like it makes me.
Speaker 1 (43:16):
It makes me feel old, like not many things in
sports make me feel old when I think about seeing
someone's career fully as an adult that is fifteen eighteen
years not like, hey, I remember when I was a
teenager and I watched airk career and you know they
finished when I was thirty whatever, But like when I'm
a full blown thirty year old man and somebody else's
(43:38):
career starts, and I remember it because I was a
full blown adult, the whole thing. And then we talk
about their Hall of Fame. It makes you feel old, like, yeah,
and I remember everything about.
Speaker 4 (43:46):
This guy's career.
Speaker 1 (43:47):
It's not like these hazy memories like when you're eleven
or twelve and I thought this happened. I thought he
had a home run that was seven hundred and fifty
feet turned out to be three hundred and seventy five feet.
Speaker 4 (43:56):
But this is, yeah, Echiro Sabbathia Wagner.
Speaker 1 (43:58):
These are all guys like my entire life, my thirties
and forties. Yeah, watch them play and watch them play
really well for a long time. Not much makes me
feel old.
Speaker 4 (44:08):
This does, Yeah.
Speaker 5 (44:09):
Oftentimes for me, it's when the juniors start finding their
way into the game, right, because we're old enough that
we watched a lot of Ken Griffy Senior right in
his final years of playing in Cincinnati and New York
and whatever. And then Junior came along, had his whole career.
He's been retired forever.
Speaker 4 (44:27):
And in the Hall of Fame forever.
Speaker 5 (44:29):
So you have that, But now you see so many
like college football players. We watched their dad's whole careers
and now there they are on.
Speaker 4 (44:39):
The grid iron.
Speaker 5 (44:40):
But yes, certainly I remember Inchro coming to the US,
What a huge deal that was he and Albert Poolholes
in two thousand and one. And we're watching these guys
iss grown ass men, one you know, who'd been played
seven years in the pros in Japan, the other coming
into Saint Louis and and watching them just dominate from
(45:01):
day one, watching their whole careers and thinking about how
long I mean, that's five years retired. Like I'm looking
at the class for next year, I'm.
Speaker 4 (45:09):
Like, that guy's been on a baseball for five years already.
Come on.
Speaker 1 (45:14):
Yeah, But you know, but the thing is about the class,
because this is another big thing is that you know,
you hear we make fun with Jason Cole and call
you vote for the Hall of Very Good, the Hall
of very Good. But quite honestly, when I look at
the careers of CC Sabbathia and Billy Wagner Metsio, uh,
these guys were really really good, but were.
Speaker 4 (45:33):
They Hall of famers?
Speaker 1 (45:34):
Like like you have to be it's gotta not even
be a debate, like you're a Hall of Famer or
you're not. And you know, I don't mean from the
perspective of all Billy Wagner on the ballot for the
last time and now finally he gets in. Look, I
get the I get the business of baseball, and that, hey,
it looks bad if we have a Hall of Fame
year where only one person goes in, it looks like
it looks like it's a bad year for baseball. We
(45:55):
had nobody else worthy of the Hall of Fame. So
and that's a big benefit for a lot of players
who have a borderline resume, is that, hey, the sport
wants to make it look like they have they have
stars everywhere, So we want to put it at least
three people every year, at least five. We want to
get as many people in as possible every single year.
Can't have a year where just one person gets in,
because honestly, eachiro this should have been he gets in, right,
(46:18):
you know, And and and the fact that Sabbathia and
Billy Wagner get in. Look, CC Sabathia was really good.
And now to get in the Hall of Fame, it's
pretty simple. If you're really good over a long period
of time, and the end of your career, isn't I'm
falling off the cliff.
Speaker 4 (46:35):
And sometimes doesn't matter if.
Speaker 1 (46:36):
You do that, because you look get a guy like
Miguel Cabrera, like the guy last ten years, but it
doesn't matter.
Speaker 4 (46:40):
Look at what he did the first ten years. But
like you know, like CC Sabathia.
Speaker 1 (46:45):
He played nineteen years in the league, you know, twelve
years as e er was over three and a half.
You know, forget about the wins. The wins are impressive.
Two hundred and fifty one wins is pretty good. But
he was always a pretty good pitcher. And you know,
he had a good three three or four year run
without Sabathia is really really good. But the vast majority
of the time he was an average pitcher. I'm not
(47:06):
even asking to have an ERA under three, you know,
or under under two or so you have an ERA minuscuitant. No,
but his ERA was over three and a half, twelve
out of his eighteen years. Like Billy Wagner, you know,
hardly ever led the league in anything. You know, as
a closer. Yes, he's got great over the course of
his career, and his batting average that he's given up
to opponents over players who have faced over eight hundred
(47:27):
batters in their careers the lowest, Like you can look
anywhere for stats to find something, but when you look
at the over the longevity of nineteen years, two hundred
and fifty one wins, like, that's what's gonna do it
because baseball to stop being able to put in a
lot of stars because of the Mitchell era and all
the steroids. A Rod's not getting in, Bonds, Clemens, all
these guys aren't getting in. But they want to be
(47:48):
able to keep putting players in because they want to
make it look like we still have great players. So
you're in a sweet spot now where there's a lot
of players the last few years where I go, yeah,
I don't know, man, Yeah, I mean really they were.
But when I see somebody, oh, you're a seven time
All Star, well, you played nineteen years, so that meant
like every three years you were good enough to be
an All Star, Like like that's something that stands out
(48:10):
to me. And and you know, Casey's a mathean his
and his era three out of every four years was
was pedestrian at best, which is really what you want
to measure a picture by.
Speaker 4 (48:20):
What's his era? Look like, what's his whip look like?
Speaker 1 (48:22):
And his whip wasn't great, right, his whip was up
near one point three for his career, But he won games,
he was popular, and he was someone that was able
to stay in the rotation for a long time. Even
at the end of his career when as era is
up over four, he's still able to make twenty five
to thirty starts for the Yankees, and and and that's
that's a big thing, just being healthy enough to make
(48:45):
all these starts and to not be to the point where, hey,
your record is two and nine, your e RA is
five and a half, you're either in the bullpen or
releasing you. All you have to do is just be
okay enough to not get a demotion and and and
you can wind up putting together.
Speaker 4 (48:59):
Enough stay that's a point nineteen years. Here's where we
vote people in.
Speaker 1 (49:02):
I mean, so that's really what it's become is that
if you're if you're really good for a long period
of time, of course you're going to assimilate numbers and
it's gonna look like you had an amazing career. But
when when I can sit back and make an argument
against you, just as much as I can make one
for you. Are you really a Hall of Famer? Like
I said, I can make the argument against cacuz A Bathea,
I just did. I make the one against Billy Wagner.
Speaker 4 (49:24):
I just did.
Speaker 1 (49:25):
Can't make one against Eachiro Suzuki hall of Famer. I
mean it should be that easy. Yes, there are borderline
cases here and there where it's, man, I don't know this.
This guy did this and then like Craig Bgo three
thousand hits? Did he really have? Was he really that great?
Or was he just able to play second base for
a long time and be able to hold the job
down and be steady?
Speaker 3 (49:45):
Right?
Speaker 1 (49:45):
Like, is that a Hall of Fame? Like that's a
big debate, right, that's about three thousand. It's is a
magic number, man, you know, but I mean when I
can make an argument for you, I get that the
new thing is just Hey, if I play fifteen eighteen years,
you know, seven or eight All Star appearances and I
don't wind up, you know, falling off the cliff at
the end. Yeah, I got a great case for the
(50:05):
Hall of Fame, and I'll probably make it because because
Baseball wants to put players in, they hit it. They
hit the skids with the steroid era, and they went
through a lot of years where people didn't get in.
So now I want to just keep putting players and
keep putting players in, even players now who didn't get
in that are the big senior candidates like Dave Parker
got in, And I was like when I were Dave
Parker when I was a kid, I was so scared.
Dave Parker was such a big, fearsome hitter, and he
(50:27):
had a great army.
Speaker 4 (50:28):
They would play the Cobras thing every time he came up.
Speaker 1 (50:30):
You'll get Dave Parker's numbers, Like, Okay, Dave Parker was good,
but he played a long time, and he was able
to hold onto his starting job and play one hundred
and forty games. And when you can do that, of
course you're gonna hit. If you have some kind of talent,
you're gonna hit twenty some odd home runs. You're gonna
knock in eighty runs or seventy five runs. That's pretty good,
but it's not Hall of Fame. But the line has
(50:51):
blurred so much to the point where players know, if
I just have a really good career for fifteen to
eighteen years, and I can just hold on to my job.
I can stay healthy and play one hundred and forty games.
I got a great shot to get in the Hall
of Fame.
Speaker 4 (51:04):
Yeah, I mean it's we come back to aggregation.
Speaker 5 (51:09):
The whole Mitchell era, right, the Mitchell Report itself seems
to be discarded, and it was right.
Speaker 4 (51:18):
They said, Hey, we were just trying to get a survey.
Speaker 5 (51:20):
But you know, the information got leaked, some got affected,
some didn't. Some wag their fingers at Congress and were
stat aggregators and later failed tests. And then you have
to decide, you know, it was the time, did you
hold it against it? You know, some get up on
their little soap boxes and keep wagging their fingers. They
(51:42):
never gave back the millions they made calling those games
and turning a blind eye.
Speaker 4 (51:46):
You know when everybody.
Speaker 5 (51:48):
Talked about how much more access you had back then.
Speaker 4 (51:51):
Yeah, you didn't know what was going on. I guys,
I wave at all of.
Speaker 5 (51:57):
You as you go through, but you know, and then
selectively deciding which guys you like from that era, which
you don't.
Speaker 6 (52:04):
You know.
Speaker 5 (52:04):
Sammy Sosi has now been embraced by the Cubs. Does
that mean they'll embrace him back in Major League baseball
in the voting, Yeah, probably not Kurt Shilling. You don't
like his politics, so you leave him out because he's
a guy that his numbers would match up with Sabbathia
and all these other guys. Right, So it just becomes
at times a bit arbitrary as to how you because.
Speaker 4 (52:26):
It's look, it's loaded with scoundrels.
Speaker 5 (52:27):
We've always talked about that, and now we get into,
you know, aggregation versus domination.
Speaker 6 (52:33):
Right.
Speaker 5 (52:34):
The next on the active players list for pitching for wins,
Garrett Coles at one hundred and fifty three wins is
two hundred the new threshold for longevity and history and
the curiosity for me though Jason comes with the people
that are voting for it, like it's one thing that
it goes to a committee of former managers and ball players,
(52:57):
and they may see a guy's value is different than
what's just on the back of the baseball card, like
a Dave Parker or a Dick Allen that go in
this year versus Billy Wagner's been on that for ten years,
and I like Billy Wagger.
Speaker 1 (53:13):
I'm happy he gets in. Right, he was like five
foot nothing like me. Five He could throw ninety eight
miles an hour.
Speaker 5 (53:19):
I meant cannon for an arm of longevity, all that stuff,
and what eighth all time saves and whatever else like
I'll start stumping from Mark Burley while I'm at it,
while we're having these conversations. But it's just that idea
of when you get to the Veterans Committee in those
then I understand all right, now it's you're looking at
it through a different lens. But when it's a hey,
(53:41):
he's been on the ballot for ten years, it's his
last year and he gets in. That's why I raised
my hand and go, why'd you come over this year?
Why not year nine? Why not your aid? Why did
it take all these years to convince you to get
to critical mass next year? Is interesting because you look
at all the first time ballot guys. Here's not a
single one of those guys that you say, all right,
(54:02):
he's getting in. No, suddenly Andrew Jones gonna pop over.
Speaker 1 (54:07):
Yeah, the threat that's why the vote, that's why the
voting gets to be the way it is, because what
it should be is that listen, do we really have
that many players that should make the Hall of Fame?
Speaker 6 (54:16):
No?
Speaker 4 (54:16):
You know what?
Speaker 1 (54:17):
Vote for the top three this year. Right, vote for
your top three, and then see how many people don't
get in. But no, vote for your top ten, and
maybe somebody can get enough votes whatever, and you can
squeak them through. When here's on the thing top ten,
you gotta rank him, you gotta rank him, you gotta put.
Speaker 4 (54:31):
Them on this list.
Speaker 1 (54:32):
And yeah, Andrew Jones will probably wind up getting way
more votes because he's close. He might be the Billy
Wagner of next year.
Speaker 4 (54:38):
He's the guy that if he stopped playing after ten years,
he'd be in the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 8 (54:41):
But well, those final five years really bad. I mean,
it got him over the four hundred homer threshold, but
that didn't mean what it did to us twenty five
years ago. Now, I mean the four hundred home run
club was a big deal. Yeah, sure it well, yeah,
five hundred. I mean it was rarefied air. We're talking,
you know, and all those guys like it's greatness. And
(55:02):
then four hundred became the threshold, and then now.
Speaker 4 (55:06):
What is it? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (55:08):
I mean, look, Baseball's put in the way they have
the voting. They've greased the skids so we can get
more people in, right, and and I under I understand
what they're doing. It's just very difficult to say, hey,
Eachiro and CC Sabbathia and Billy Wagner, like okay, I mean,
come on, man, Like there's it's almost like it should
be like tiers of the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 4 (55:29):
Like it like like Sanders Coach like like like the like.
Speaker 1 (55:33):
There should be Hey, there's a top tier Hall of
Fame that players like Eachiro get in.
Speaker 4 (55:37):
Then it could be the next tier where like C. C.
Speaker 1 (55:40):
Sabathia gets in and Billy Wagner gets in, but that
top tier for like Rivera and Jeter and you know,
and each You're all like that needs to be some
sort of thing. Hey, you know, we're we're we're up
here now, okay, just so you know, this special wing
of the Hall of where we're special Hall of famers.
These guys are the Hall of Fame. However you want
to do it, because just when you say, oh, wow,
(56:02):
you compare Eachro to the two of them, it's like, wow, Okay,
there's really no comparison, right, none of them. Neither of
them dominated like Eachiro did for the time of his career.
Not that they weren't good, but again, it's Hall of
fame rights. That's one of the big sayings that I've
always prescribed to a Hall of fame, not hall of
very good and right hall of fame. It should be easy,
it should be an easy thing. But this is what
(56:23):
you get when you baseball wants keep putting people in.
Just again, play fifteen plus years. Don't lose your job. Stay, stay,
stay where you can. Just be solid, and you will
put up enough numbers and get credit for.
Speaker 4 (56:33):
The Hall of Fame. Well that get us into the
Radio Hall of Fame. Make it. Make an all star
team every three or four years. You're good. That's all
you need to do. Every three or four years. It's fine.
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