January 22, 2025 • 41 mins
Jason and Mike delivered their thoughts on the 2025 baseball Hall of Fame class headlined by Ichiro Suzuki, CC Sabathia, and Billy Wagner! The guys talk about starting to witness the entire careers of some of these inductees, and why you may see more and more fringe guys like Billy Wagner getting in.
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really face we play it on the show. It's just
like we'll be playing the e l GS e s
Eglessles Chance for the rest of this week, and if
the Eagles go to the Super Bowl, we'll play We'll
be playing e L G S L E Yes the
the rest of the week's two.
Speaker 4 (01:15):
Yeah, it would appear that they've already got some shirts
being sold out there with this on it.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
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radio stations.
Speaker 4 (01:25):
Get in there and so fly el ghisles, fly t shirts.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
Listen, you know, let's let's let's play more than the
flying Elvis's h Yeah, yeah, that's true. Chapter.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
Let's sell everybody what we're talking about here. In case
your case you're just picking this up. Welcome the Mayor
of Philadelphia. Before the Eagles playoff game against the Rams
on Sunday, Charrelle Parker, at an event, wanted to urge
everybody to get to the Eagles game safely. Hey, you
got a big game today. She wanted to do a
big go Birds chant. So, you know, the Eagles chant
is spelling Eagles, which I don't understand. How far have
(02:04):
we lowered the bar for teams where just spelling.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
The name is a chant.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
It's a whole song.
Speaker 4 (02:08):
Though I understand the Eagles fly and the spelling it
out come on.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
But I but I understand the Jets have been doing
this for almost forty years town Jack. You know, well
yeah that too. That's more than forty years. For you
go further back than that, you gotta go fifty sixty years.
But here is uh Mayor Charell Parker who tries to
lead everybody in an eagles chant and leads everyone astray.
Speaker 5 (02:33):
Hey, ow gee, yes, let's go birds elk it's got
laughing in the background is yeah, did you can hear him?
Speaker 1 (02:46):
You know, I've seen this thing now like yeah, I
don't know, a hundred times and it's like a piece
of music where where after a while you're like you're new,
you get a new favorite part or a movie you've
scene a bunch of times, going oh, now this this
is my favorite person in the movie used to be
this person, like I from my favorite part being the
people trying to follow along with her chant, like they
can't because they're trying to just go e A G
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L E s. She goes E G L E L
G Wait Hey, hey, as okay, clap clack cloly No,
I can figure it out. But then I just you
just see how happy she is doing the chant, just
how excited she is to be trying to spell Eagles
and not getting it right, but just so happy.
Speaker 3 (03:25):
The whole time. I'm getting the chant Eagles and I'm
getting it wrong.
Speaker 6 (03:28):
He now g.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
Yes me, I really, I mean another one hundred times.
Maybe it's a different part. I will I will find
it in my paint.
Speaker 6 (03:41):
Oh.
Speaker 3 (03:41):
I mean, it's like listening to Hotel California. Now.
Speaker 4 (03:44):
I'm fixating on the base part that is eat.
Speaker 3 (03:50):
I think we're all missing the point on this one, though.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
What I don't know for us, what's the point on
this I'm afraid the only person in the city that
can't screw this up is her. Uh yeah, yeah, Well
anybody else's no, no, no, no, no. Mayor Parker and
A J. Brown Because A J. Brown reads, We know
AJ Brown reads. He can't screw that up. He knows
what says Eagles gets. Those two people can't.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
Screw You don't know if he reads. We don't even
don't know if he reads.
Speaker 4 (04:17):
Well, I mean, how many times have you seen lebron
photograph You think, I mean, come a fake.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
Reading on the sideline when he's I'm just gonna be
reading because I want people to know him upset.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
I'm not getting the football. No, we know he reads,
he could doodles.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
I'm just randomly highlighting things to make it look like
I know what I well, I mean, we didn't actually
see him actively with a highlighter. Now look, I will
say this, okay, because because there there there's a there's
a thing here like I I do remember, and I'll
go back see because and this is this is fifth
grade though, so I'm going back a long way, right,
I've not I've not held onto this for you know,
forty years, not not at all, but I you know,
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like I was always a great speller, right, and I
always was. And in fifth grade, I remember in second
grade I was reading it like a like a twelfth
grade level, Like you know, I read all the time.
Speaker 3 (05:03):
People surprise you read? Yes, I read all the time.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
So when it came time for the fifth grade spelling bee,
I was sick, and so I missed the day of
the spelling bee. That got it down from the classes
from the individual class to the finals, which is the
top person from each class. So the first day I
was really mad I missed it, but the teacher said, listen,
you know, I know you're gonna do really well.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
You just have you have to spell.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
The same number of words a difficulty that the top
person from from from the class already is spelled, and
and we're going to continue on and see who wins.
And I said, okay, great, so I'm spell a whole
bunch of words, and Gain says okay. And this was
the word that got me to be the champion of
the class and it was underground, and I'm like, got
it right? So I say it and all of a sudden,
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missus pinito and she looks at me and she goes no,
and I go no. To this day, I have no
idea what I spelled. But I'm like, how did I
get that wrong? I mean I knew how to spell.
I mean, it's the easy word underground, under its stewards,
undering round I got. I'm like, what did I say?
And I looked at my friend. I sat down and
I was just stunned because I'm like, this is like
the biggest thing in my life, Like I'm going to
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be in front of the whole school for the spelling bee.
And I said, well, I said, what did I say?
He goes, you got it wrong? How did I get it?
Speaker 3 (06:14):
What did I do? To this day, anybody gets it?
Nobody nobody knew what you did, but I said you
were wrong.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
Well, she said I was wrong, and there was nobody
that said no, he got it right because it was
in front.
Speaker 3 (06:23):
Of the whole class.
Speaker 4 (06:24):
So she didn't go over it to say, hey, this
is where you aired.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
No, because I was moved on and I was just
I was just embarrassed. I'm like, how did I get
that wrong? And that again to this day, I have
no idea. And when I went home, and I feel
so bad about this because I lied to my mom.
Like she said to me, she said, how did you do?
And I said, oh, I lost it, you know, getting
in I lost like in the getting in the finals.
Speaker 3 (06:47):
What was your word? My mom?
Speaker 1 (06:49):
My mom was very yeah, no, my mom was very
uh uh into my my my career. As far as
a student went, she was always she was someone who
would say, what did you get on your tech? I
got a ninety five? Oh, what did Joseph Schultz get?
One of my friends, Oh you got a ninety six.
What did Andrea Glassberg get? Oh she got a ninety eight,
like like all these people that got hired, like ninety
five wasn't good enough?
Speaker 3 (07:10):
Right, I'm like, okay, come on, yeh.
Speaker 4 (07:12):
I never got the comparison to other people. It's like,
where'd those five percent go?
Speaker 3 (07:16):
Yeah? She go, she goes, She's like, what did these
other people do? Huh?
Speaker 1 (07:20):
Okay, right, I couldn't get a hey, really nice job, right,
ninety five great?
Speaker 3 (07:23):
Right, that's out of one hundred, not two hundred. And
I like, okay.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
She said what was your word? And I go, I
gotta make something up. I can't tell her underground. You're
gonna be mad at me. So I said conscience was
my word? I said conscience and she goes, oh, that's
a really you know, I just learned how to spell
that not too long ago.
Speaker 3 (07:37):
You know what a big help. It's con science.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
I said, oh yeah, she's yeah, oh.
Speaker 3 (07:43):
Why that's a really hard Wow, that's a really hard word.
Speaker 4 (07:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (07:45):
Yeah, I'm going Please don't go to parent teacher.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
And I had asked about why I got conscience, and
I missed underground, Please don't do that. And I was
so nervous when she did go to parenteer, but she
never asked about the spelling bee she was on.
Speaker 3 (07:56):
I think I was. I probably wasn't doing great in
something else or science. I don't know her.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
He was like more concerned about that. But I was
so nervous he's gonna go and find out lie to
her about the word because I was just so embarrassed.
But here's the thing, I got underground wrong. I was
nine years old. Okay, I was nine and I got
underground wrong. I'd be sure ell Parker's but it's fifty
and you get he can't spell eagle and she's the mayor.
Speaker 3 (08:18):
Yeah, we can't forget that part. I know, No, we're not.
That's why we're playing.
Speaker 4 (08:22):
She didn't have to pass a spelling test.
Speaker 3 (08:26):
To become mayor.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
Maybe you should maybe, but now, but look I could
be the mayor if they was spelling well.
Speaker 4 (08:31):
But yeah, good humor and honesty about hey I failed,
ha ha. You know, we we strive for perfection, but
we don't achieve it.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
All those things, she owned it.
Speaker 4 (08:41):
I mean, I'm sure there was a crisis management little
uh pow wow after that, especially the again the maniacal
laugh that guy as it goes horribly wrong in the clip.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
But yeah, no, that's tough. I'm glad you buried.
Speaker 4 (08:56):
Your soul about you know, your your your face in
the spelling be though, really it made you that much
more relatable.
Speaker 3 (09:03):
Not even not yet.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
And and the thing is, I have like three really
bad spelling bet stories like the like the the in
sixth grade and seventh grade.
Speaker 3 (09:13):
Okay, would you ever.
Speaker 4 (09:14):
Taken down by someone like Jason Bateman in Bad Words?
Great movie for those who haven't seen it.
Speaker 6 (09:21):
No.
Speaker 3 (09:21):
In sixth grade.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
Sixth grade, I lost the school wide guy was me
and somebody else school wide competition and it went like
ten extra rounds and it was it was insane and
I lost, Like the kid was the smartest kid in
the school and and it was just like insane, and
I lost.
Speaker 3 (09:37):
I was really mad.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
And then seventh grade I lost because the word was chromosome, right,
and the tea and it's okay, chromosome, and it was
down like that. And this is middle school. Now there's
way more kids in the school and there's down to
like five or.
Speaker 3 (09:50):
Six of us.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
And she goes, okay, chromosome and the first person gets it,
spells it wrong. She's okay because now she was upset
because we're getting near the end.
Speaker 4 (09:57):
Did you chrome instead? No, I start singing.
Speaker 3 (10:04):
So she goes chromosome okay, and then the person got
it wrong. I'm like, oh, well, they got it wrong.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
She goes, okay, Jason chromosome, and I'm like, oh, okay,
I spell it.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
I spell it wrong.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
And now the sixth person who goes, this girl gets
to hear everybody spelled it wrong, changes and she spells
it right and she wins. And the teacher did this
because we're getting close to the end of the assembly
and she wanted to wrap it up and everything else.
And I went to her at the end. I said,
you know, that really wasn't fair, and she goes, I can't.
I can't help you spell the word wrong. And I said,
now I can believe, I said seventh grade.
Speaker 3 (10:34):
I said, it's.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
Unfair because she got to listen to five of us
spell that word wrong. She had an unfair advantage over
everybody else who went you should have changed words like
they do in the tournament.
Speaker 3 (10:44):
And she looked at me. I remember she looked at me,
and she was like, okay, okay, and.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
Then didn't say anything like I just got put in
my place by a seventh grader. Wow, okay, Because I
sometimes I feel like, boy, I'm like five years old
still sometimes I feel like I'm wise beyond my years.
When I that was really unfair, and there's nothing she
could say because she's right. Like when you give somebody,
you get to hear five chances how he spelled it wrong,
and I never got chromosome wrong. After that, I'm like
Noah Wyley a few good men. I never dropped my
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rifle after that, I just I still thought, Man, my
life is a speller, like I could have been somebody.
I could have been there, and three times it just
didn't work out. I'm like the Lamar Jackson of spelling,
Like I just get so close and something happened.
Speaker 3 (11:25):
But what happened?
Speaker 1 (11:26):
He's so good all the time, spells everything right. Then
he gets to a point where the pressure is on
he can't win. He's the Detroit Lions of spelling, so good,
but no, it gets to a big point he can't win.
Speaker 3 (11:35):
That's me.
Speaker 4 (11:36):
It's a wonder I can think it all. Coda chrome
ko da ch r o emmy. No. Look, I would
give that girl credit for the fact that she was
able to cancel the noise in her head and pay
attention to you guys all failing.
Speaker 3 (11:51):
Yeah, that would have been my response if I was
the teacher.
Speaker 4 (11:53):
But clearly she was not quick witted in thinking of
that response to put your seventh grade ass in.
Speaker 3 (11:59):
It's no, I still I still well.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
You were the Jets in middle school.
Speaker 3 (12:06):
I couldn't. I mean, no, no, no, the Aget Not
only were you taken l's, you were getting bullied.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
No no, but I had a lot of promise, unlike
the Jets, like I had, I had a loh.
Speaker 4 (12:15):
No, no, no, no, no, hey, there was a lot
of hope this year. Everybody conveniently forgetting all their twenty
twenty four preseason predictions the last week or two.
Speaker 3 (12:24):
Oh I had this team.
Speaker 1 (12:25):
No, you're lying, ass had the Jets'.
Speaker 3 (12:33):
That's tough, it's I get it.
Speaker 1 (12:34):
But again, these are stories for when I was nine,
ten and eleven.
Speaker 4 (12:39):
Right, the fact that you remember these things, they've really
left an indelible uh etching on your soul.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I still remember them
because I'm thinking about spelling it right, and I just
started thinking all the spelling. Oh yeah yeah, yeah, underground chromosome.
Speaker 3 (12:54):
Oh sure, sure, Tony is there's uh you got you.
Tony Richardson's spelling Jets I made.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
I'm telling you him, spelling Jets wrong is better than
her spelling Eagles. Wrong because he's closer. He's closer, he's
closer to it. He gets the first three letters right,
then he gets the fourth letter wrong. Now granted there's
only four letters, but he gets it wrong.
Speaker 4 (13:13):
Now, but here's the letter now, the third letter and
the fourth letter is no. But here's the difference. Hers
has now gone viral, okay, but originally it was just
to fail in the city. His was national on a
massive event.
Speaker 3 (13:27):
Yeah, yeah, I know, there was no hiding. He was
at the NFL draft.
Speaker 4 (13:31):
Was able to gest date for a bit before it
went national and went viral.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
So no, every time someone says that to me, when
did Tony Richardson spell spell that wrong? I say, yeah,
he was at the draft, I go, yeah, right before
they announced getting the pick of Christian Hackenberg.
Speaker 3 (13:50):
Meanwhile, it wasn't.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
But it's a better story when I said it, yeah,
then announced Christian Hackenberg with the second rep.
Speaker 3 (13:56):
You sure they got that right? Oh no, No, My
other things that jud Jet's got right now. Oh, I
just meant the name on the card. He getting the
pick right now, right away.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
That's where that's like trying to spell eagles in your
first letter is an X, Like that's it's not gonna
work X silent x l ees.
Speaker 3 (14:20):
X at. How about a.
Speaker 1 (14:21):
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Speaker 3 (14:51):
You know later on.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
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Well, as we get we'll get back to spelling later on,
because I think there is something to be said for spelling.
Speaker 3 (17:10):
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Major League Baseball Hall of Fame. The new class was
announced today to no one's surprise. Ichiro Suzuki. Uh nearly unanimous.
Of course, one person didn't vote for each Youiro for
some unknown reason.
Speaker 3 (17:25):
It was not Rob.
Speaker 1 (17:25):
Parker said, now it could be a parody account that
that voted somehow voted for that didn't vote.
Speaker 3 (17:36):
Just it's pretty good. Uh So we talked about that.
Speaker 1 (17:42):
We'll get into that part of it a little bit
later because something a little bit different here about uh
the class this year. That's Ichro Suzuki, c CE Sabbathi
and Billy Wagner and you know every time, you know,
the Hall of Fame comes up and it's and it's
you know, here's Echiro and Sabbathi and Billy Wagner.
Speaker 3 (17:56):
Like it makes me.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
It makes me feel old, like not many things in
sports make me feel old when I think about seeing
someone's career fully as an adult that is fifteen eighteen
years not like, hey, I remember when I was a
teenager and I watched their career and you know, they
finished when I was thirty whatever was. But like when
I'm a full blown thirty year old man and somebody
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else's career starts and I remember it because I was
a full blown adult, the whole thing, and then we
talk about their Hall of Fame. That makes you feel old,
like yeah, and I remember everything about this guy's career.
It's not like these hazy memories like when you're eleven
or twelve and I thought this happened.
Speaker 3 (18:32):
I thought he had a home run that was seven.
Speaker 1 (18:33):
Hundred and fifty feet turned out to be three hundred
and seventy five feet. But this is yeah, each yi o,
Sabbathia Wager. These are all guys like my entire life,
my thirties and forties. Yeah, watch them play and watch
them play really well for a long time. Not much
makes me feel old. This does, yeah, we oftentimes for.
Speaker 4 (18:51):
Me, it's when the juniors start finding their way into
the game, right because we're old enough that we watched
a lot of Ken Griffy senior right in his final
years of playing in Cincinnati and New York and whatever.
And then Junior came along, had his whole career. He's
been retired forever.
Speaker 3 (19:08):
And in the Hall of Fame forever. So you have that.
Speaker 4 (19:11):
But now you see so many like college football players.
We watched their dad's whole careers, and now there they
are on the grid iron. But yes, certainly I remember
eachro coming to the US, what a huge deal that
was he and Albert Pooholes in two thousand and one,
and we're watching these guys as grown ass men, one
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you know, who'd been played seven years in the pros
in Japan, the other coming into Saint Louis and watching
them just dominate from day one, watching their whole careers
and thinking about how long I mean, that's five years retired.
Like I'm looking at the class for next year, I'm like.
Speaker 3 (19:50):
That guy's been on a baseball for five years already.
Come on, yeah, but you.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
Know, but the thing is about the class, because this
is another big thing is that know you hear we
make fun with Jason Cole and call you vote for
the Hall of very Good, the Hall of very Good.
But quite honestly, when I look at the careers of
CC Sabbathia and Billy Wagner, Metsio, uh, these guys were
really really good, but.
Speaker 3 (20:14):
Were they Hall of famers? Like like you have to be.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
It's got to not even be a debate, like you're
a Hall of Famer or you're not. And you know,
I don't mean from the perspective of all Billy Wagner on.
Speaker 3 (20:23):
The ballot for the last time and now finally he
gets in.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
Look, I get the I get the business of baseball,
and that, hey, it looks bad if we have a
Hall of Fame year where only one person goes in,
it looks like it looks like it's a bad year
for baseball. We had nobody else worthy of the Hall
of Fame. So uh, And that's a big benefit for
a lot of players who have a borderline resume, is that, Hey,
the sport wants to make it look like they have
they have stars everywhere so we want to put it
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at least three people every year, at least five. We
want to get as many people in as possible. Every
single year can have a year where just one person
gets in, because honestly, eachiro this should have been he
gets in, right, you know, and and and the fact
that Sabbathia and Billy Wagner get in. Look, CC Sabbathia
was really good, and now to get in the Hall
of Fame, it's pretty simple. If you're really good over
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a long period of time, and the end of your
career isn't I'm falling off the cliff. And sometimes doesn't
matter if you do that, because you look at a
guy like Miguel Cabrera, like the guy last ten years,
but it doesn't matter.
Speaker 3 (21:21):
Look at what he did the first ten years. But
like you know, like.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
CC Sabathia, he played in nineteen years in the league,
you know, twelve years as era was over three and
a half.
Speaker 3 (21:32):
You know, forget about the wins. The wins are impressive.
Speaker 1 (21:34):
Two hundred and fifty one wins is pretty good, but
he was always a pretty good pitcher.
Speaker 3 (21:39):
And you know, he had a good three or four
year run without Sabbathia.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
Is really, really good, But the vast majority of the
time he was an average pitcher. I'm not even asking
to have an ERA under three, you know, or under
under two or so that you have an era minuscultat no.
But his ERA was over three and a half twelve
out of his eighteen years. Like Billy Wagner, you know,
hardly ever led the league in anything, you know, as
a closer. Yes, he's got great over the course of
his career, and his batting average that he's given up
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to opponents over players who have faced over eight hundred
batters in their careers the lowest. Like you can look
anywhere for stats to find something, but when you look
at the over the longevity of nineteen years, two hundred
and fifty one wins, like that's what's going to do it.
Because baseball to stop being able to put in a
lot of stars because of the Mitchell era and all
the steroids. A Rod's not getting in bonds, Clemens, all
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these guys aren't getting in. But they want to be
able to keep putting players in because they want to
make it look like we still have great players. So
you're in a sweet spot now where there's a lot
of players the last few years where I go, yeah,
I don't know, man, Yeah, I mean really they were.
But when I see somebody, oh, you're a seven time
All Star, well you played nineteen years, so that meant
like every three years you were good enough to be
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an All Star. Like that's something that stands out to me.
And and you know, Casey's a Bathian and his era
three out of every four years was was pedestrian at best,
which is really what you want to measure a a
picture by what's his era look like, what's his whip
look like? And his whip wasn't great, right, his whip
was up near one point three for his career. But
he won games, He was popular, and he was someone
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that was able to stay in the rotation for a
long time. Even at the end of his career when
as era is up over four, he's still able to
make twenty five to thirty starts for the Yankees. And
and that's a big thing, just being healthy enough to
make all these starts and to not be to the
point where, hey, your record is two and nine, your
era is five and a half, you're either in the
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bullpen or releasing you. All you have to do is
just be okay enough to not get a demotion, and
you can wind up putting together enough stats and point nineteen.
Speaker 3 (23:41):
Years here where we vote people in.
Speaker 1 (23:43):
I mean, so that's really what it's become, is that
if you're if you're really good for a long period
of time, of course you're going to assimilate numbers and
it's gonna look like you had an amazing career. But
when when I can sit back and make an argument
against you just as much as I can make one
for you, are.
Speaker 3 (23:59):
You really had?
Speaker 1 (24:00):
Like I said, I can make the argument against Caeczabathia,
I just did. I make the one against Billy Wagner,
I just did. Can't make one against Eachiro Suzuki Hall
of Famer? I mean it should be that easy. Yes,
there are borderline cases here and there where it's, man,
I don't know this, this guy did this and the
like Craig Bgo three thousand hits? Did he really? Was
he really that great? Or was he just able to
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play second base for a long time and be able
to hold the job down and be steady?
Speaker 3 (24:26):
Right? Like?
Speaker 1 (24:26):
Is that a hall of fame? Like that's a big debate, right,
that's about three thousands? Is a badge number man, you know,
but I mean when I can make an argument for you,
I get that the new thing is just hey, if
I play fifteen eighteen years, you know, seven or eight
All Star appearances and and I don't wind up, you know,
falling off the cliff at the end. Yeah, I got
a great case for the Hall of Fame, and I'll
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probably make it because the because Baseball wants to put
players in, the hit it.
Speaker 3 (24:51):
They hit it.
Speaker 1 (24:52):
They hit the skids with the steroid era, and they
went through a lot of years where people didn't get in.
So now I want to just keep putting players and
keep putting players in, even players now who he didn't
get into. That of the big senior candidates like Dave
Parker got in, And I was like, when I were
Dave Parker when I was a kid, I was so scared.
Dave Parker was such a big, fearsome hitter, and he
had a great army.
Speaker 3 (25:09):
They would play the Cobras thing every time he came up.
Speaker 1 (25:11):
You get Dave Parker's numbers, like, Okay, Dave Parker was good,
but he played a long time and he was able
to hold onto his starting job and play one hundred
and forty games. And when you can do that, of
course you're gonna hit. If you have some kind of talent,
you're gonna hit twenty some odd home runs. You're gonna
knock in eighty runs or seventy five runs. That's pretty good,
but it's not Hall of Fame. But the line has
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blurred so much to the point where players know, if
I just have a really good career for fifteen to
eighteen years, and I can just hold on to my
job and I can stay healthy and play one hundred
and forty games, I got a great shot to get.
Speaker 3 (25:44):
In the Hall of Fame. Yeah, I mean it's we
come back to aggregation.
Speaker 4 (25:49):
The whole Mitchell era, right, the Mitchell Report itself seems
to be discarded.
Speaker 3 (25:57):
Yeah, and it was right.
Speaker 4 (25:59):
They said, hey, we were just try to get a survey,
but you know, information got leaked, some got affected, some didn't.
Some wag their fingers at Congress and were stat aggregators.
Speaker 3 (26:10):
And later failed tests.
Speaker 4 (26:12):
And then you have to decide, you know, it was
the time, did you hold it against it? You know,
some get up on their little soap boxes and keep
wagging their fingers. They never gave back the millions they
made calling those games and turning a blind eye, you
know when everybody talked about how much more access.
Speaker 3 (26:31):
You had back then.
Speaker 2 (26:32):
Yeah, you didn't know what was going on.
Speaker 3 (26:35):
I guys, I wave at all of you as you.
Speaker 4 (26:39):
Go through, but you know, and then selectively deciding which
guys you like from that era, which you don't. You know,
Sammy Sosi has now been embraced by the Cubs, does
that mean they'll embrace him back in Major League Baseball?
In the voting, Yeah, probably not. Kurt Shilling. You don't
like his politics, so you leave him out because he's
a guy that his numbers would match up with Sabbathia
(26:59):
and all these other guys. Right, So it just becomes
at times a bit arbitrary as to how you because
it's look, it's loaded with scoundrels. We've always talked about that,
and now we get into, you know, aggregation versus domination.
Speaker 1 (27:14):
Right.
Speaker 4 (27:15):
The next on the active players list for pitching for wins,
Garrett Coles at one hundred and fifty three wins. It's
two hundred the new threshold for longevity and history and
the curiosity for me, though, Jason comes with the people
that are voting for it, like it's one thing that
it goes to a committee of former managers and ball players,
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and they may see a guy's value as different than
what's just on the back of the baseball card, like
a Dave Parker or a Dick Allen that go in
this year versus Billy Wagner's been on that for ten years.
And I like Billy Wager. I'm happy he gets in. Right,
he was like five foot nothing.
Speaker 3 (27:56):
Like me five He could throw ninety eight miles an Hour's.
Speaker 4 (28:00):
Canny for an arm longevity all that stuff and what
eighth all time saves and whatever else. I'll start stumping
from Mark Burley while I'm at it while we're having
these conversations. But it's just that idea of when you
get to the veterans committee in those then I understand,
all right, now it's you're looking at it through a
different lens. But when it's a hey, he's been on
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the ballot for ten years, it's his last year and
he gets in. That's why I raised my hand and go,
why did you come over this year? Why not year nine?
Why not your aid? Why did it take all these
years to convince you to get to critical mass next
year is interesting because you look at all the first
time ballot guys. There's not a single one of those
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guys that you say, all right, he's getting in. No,
but suddenly Andrew Jones gonna pop over.
Speaker 3 (28:48):
The threshold or the voting.
Speaker 1 (28:50):
That's why the voting gets to be the way it is,
because what it should be is that, listen, do we
really have that many players that should make the Hall
of Fame?
Speaker 7 (28:57):
No?
Speaker 1 (28:57):
You know what, vote for the top three this year. Right,
vote for your top three and then see how many
people don't get in. But no, vote for your top ten,
and maybe somebody can get enough votes whatever, and you
can squeak them through. When here's on the thing toting,
you gotta rank them. You got to rank him. You
got to put them on this list. And yeah, Andrew
Jones will probably wind up getting way more votes because
he's close. He might be the Billy Wagner of next year.
(29:19):
He's the guy if he stopped playing after ten years,
he'd be in the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 4 (29:22):
Well, those final five years really bad. I mean it
got him over the four hundred homer threshold, but that
didn't mean what it did to us twenty five years ago. Now,
I mean like the four hundred home run club was
a big deal.
Speaker 3 (29:35):
Yeah, oh sure it was, yeah, five hundred. I mean
it was rarefied air.
Speaker 4 (29:39):
We're talking you know, Schmidt and all those guys, like
it's greatness. And then four hundred became the threshold and
then now what is it?
Speaker 1 (29:48):
Yeah, I mean, look, Baseball's put in the way they
have the voting. They've greased the skids so we can
get more people in, right, And I understand what they're doing.
Speaker 3 (29:57):
It's just very difficult to say, hey, each your.
Speaker 1 (30:00):
Oh and CC Sabbathia and Billy Wagner like okay, I
mean come on, man, like there's you know, it's almost
like it should be like tiers of the Hall of Fame,
like it like like Sanders, like like like the like
there should be, Hey, there's a top tier Hall of
Fame that players like eachiro get in.
Speaker 3 (30:18):
Then that could be the next tier where like C. C.
Speaker 1 (30:20):
Sabbathia gets in and Billy Wagner gets in, but that
top tier for like Rivera and Jeter and you know,
and and each You're like that needs to be some
sort of thing. Hey, you know, we're we're we're up
here now, Okay, just so you know, this special wing
of the Hall of we're special hall of famers. These
guys are the Hall of Fame. However you want to
do it, because just when you say, oh wow, you
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compare eachro to to the two of them, it's like wow, okay,
there's really no comparison, right, none of them, neither of
them dominated like eachiro did for for the time of
his career. Not that they weren't good, but again, it's
hall of fame, right, That's that's one of the big
uh sayings that I've always prescribed to a hall of fame,
not hall of very good and right hall of fame.
It should be easy, it should be an easy thing.
(31:03):
But this is what you get when you baseball wants
to keep putting people in. Just again, flight fifteen plus years.
Don't lose your job. Stay, stay, stay where you could,
just be solid, and you will put up enough numbers
and get credit.
Speaker 3 (31:14):
For the Hall of Fame. Well that get us into
the Radio Hall of Fame. Make it make an all
star team every three or four years. You're good. That's
all you need is every three or four years. It's fine.
Speaker 7 (31:22):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (31:22):
Time now to find out what's trending in the wide
world of sports.
Speaker 1 (31:25):
But guy who has made the update anchor All Star
Game pretty much one out of every four years himself.
Speaker 3 (31:31):
It's Steve Seger onto the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 6 (31:34):
Legend. As you were talking about this, I am reminded
of Jack Morris as in the Hall of Fame, like
Sabbathi about two hundred and fifty wins, his career array
was three point nine to oh Compare that to Tom
sever three hundred wins and about two point nine oh
ERA and they're in the same.
Speaker 3 (31:51):
Hall, White Sox Hall of Famer, that's correct.
Speaker 6 (31:55):
He got us with the White Sox, that's right. Echiro Suzuki.
The vote was nearly youamus for him for the Hall C. C.
Sabbathi and he had over three thousand strikeouts and Billy
Wagner over four hundred career saves. The ra two point
three to one. Two things noted for Wagner today is
one as you reference lowest career batting average against him,
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number three on the list. Sandy Kofax hitters batted about
two hundred against him, Nolan Ryan hitters batted about two
hundred against him, and Ryan's career under one ninety the
batting average against Billy Wagner. He's also number one all
time in strikeout rate, literally one out of three batters
that ever faced him, and the majors struck out.
Speaker 2 (32:36):
As for next.
Speaker 6 (32:37):
Year's class, well, you're right, who knows because under the
ballot in a year is Cole Hammil's Matt Camp, Ryan
Brawn and others, and in two years John Lester, Buster
Posey and others on the ballot. This year's class will
be inducted in Cooperstown in late July, along with Dick
Allen and Dave Parker, who were in election last month
via committee, not via the writers. The Vikings gave coach
(32:59):
Kevin O'Connell contract extension. In college hoops tonight, they've just
finished at Pauley Pavilion. UCLA beats number eighteen Wisconsin eighty
four eighty three. It was an overtime win at nineteenth
rank Yukon and Connecticut eighty to seventy eight over Butler,
Texas has beaten number twenty two Missouri, Arizona State won
at number twenty three West Virginia, and earlier Ohio State
(33:21):
got to win at number eleven per Due in a
comeback seventy three seventy to the NBA. There are two
late games. The Lakers are at the half and leading
fifty nine forty nine over Washington, which has lost ten
in a row. Philly has lost six straight and is
losing at Denver tonight one oh six eighty six Nuggets
late in the third. Earlier wins for Portland, New York
(33:41):
and Toronto in a comeback against Orlando at the NHL.
Speaking of compacks, Nashville was down five to one in
the second but was a seven to five winner against
San Jose. And At the Australian Open, Madison Keys of
the US has won her quarterfinal and number two Egas
Fiantec has just advad advanced easily.
Speaker 1 (34:00):
Back to you, Thank you, Steve though The Jason Smith
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Speaker 3 (34:11):
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The Jason Smith Show with My Best friend Mike Harmon
live from Thetirack dot Com studios, and we had the
story yesterday Ben Johnson could be the next head coach
of the Chicago Bears. Okay, well, we kind of knew that,
we heard coming in all right, great, we knew the
Bears would have to do a little bit of convincing
to get Ben Johnson to take the job. But now
(34:47):
it turns out we find out just how much convincing
they had to do. Some of the top coaches in
the NFL make upwards, you know, fourteen, fifteen, eighteen, nineteen
million dollars a year. Ben Johnson, as a first time
head coach, according to numerous sources, is getting at least
thirteen million dollars a year from the Bears right now.
(35:10):
You usually don't see a first time guy getting even
the most sought after guys, but he's getting at least
thirteen million dollars from the Bears. And I'll tell you this,
it's a coup on so many levels for both sides.
It is because number one Chicago is a unique opening
in that they have to harness their talent first and
(35:31):
then worry about building a culture. Like most of the
other teams, is Hey, we got to build a culture
and then we'll start winning right when. The Jets need
a culture, the Jaguars need a culture, the Raiders need
a culture. All they all need culture and then we'll win. No,
the Bears have the players. You gotta harness the talent first.
You have one job. If you're if you're Ben Johnson,
get Caleb Williams going right. Everything else can come away
from that. You have the players. You're not going to
(35:53):
get rid of DJ Moore, You're not going to get
rid of Roma, Duneza, Cole Comets your tight end. You've
got a pretty decent defense. You have to harness the talent.
So here's Ben Johnson, one of the best offensive minds
in the NFL. This is who you had to go get.
It's a coup for the Bears to get a guy.
Of all the openings, none of them are great. The
Bears is the best one. They got, the number one guy.
(36:14):
They're paying him thirteen million. He's a bargain if they
had to pay him twenty million dollars. And for Johnson,
he's going to the one job where he can jump
in and be a difference maker right away. Is he
a culture guy?
Speaker 3 (36:25):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (36:26):
Could he set a culture, I don't know. I know
one thing. He can coach a hell out of an
offense and a quarterback. Got Jared Goff back from the
Abyss to being a Pro Bowl quarterback and getting another
huge contract. So yeah, Ben Johnson's job coming in. Get
Caleb Williams going right, and you'll and you're on the
path to succeed. Nothing else matters in Chicago. This was
an absolute coup for both levels. Doesn't matter the money.
(36:48):
He's the right guy in the right opening. Ben Johnson's
got to be happy. The Bear's got to be ecstatic.
Speaker 4 (36:54):
Look at the Bear's credit that they finally got away
from the Trace Armstrong sphere of influence. Go back and
look at all the coaching hires, this oc hires, etc.
It's all been former Bear and Dolphin. Trace Armstrong through
his agency, has been placing people his own job board. Hey,
the Bears have that opening and they call him and
(37:15):
he's able to get a guy in there.
Speaker 3 (37:17):
Not this time, different regimes. So that I joked with
Jason locking for earlier.
Speaker 4 (37:23):
I'd love to see the pitch that they made to McCaskey,
Kevin Warren and everybody to make sure that this was
gonna work right, that they were gonna be willing to
spend the money. Now you've got part of the job done.
This is the guy to maximize Caleb Williams. You still
have to go and figure out your offensive line. Remember,
quietly they cut a guy that they spent ten million
(37:44):
dollars a year on in like week ten.
Speaker 2 (37:46):
Because everything else was melting.
Speaker 4 (37:48):
It didn't matter that you swung and missed on that
free agent offensive lineman from twenty twenty three. But in theory,
your GM's supposed to know that he's a former offensive lineman.
Speaker 3 (37:59):
You think he'd be able to evaluate what can do that.
Speaker 4 (38:02):
So, yeah, that's something that has to happen because you know,
I hear a lot about Hey, Saquon Barkley, Hey Dereck Henry,
Hey Josh Jacobs.
Speaker 3 (38:09):
What do all three of those teams have in common?
Speaker 4 (38:11):
They were pretty damn good before those guys got there,
and they had good offensive lines. And that's what's gonna
need to be there to maximize Caleb Williams. Hank Frayley
is gonna come over. In theory, their O line coach
there in Detroit. His history is well established. But yeah,
you at least took the big swing. Everybody got what
they wanted. But as they always say, Smith, be careful
(38:34):
what you wish for.
Speaker 1 (38:36):
Yeah, but I mean this is the move that it's
not like and this is what this is like a
it's not a fool proof move, but it's a but
it's a critic proof move because you're not going to
look back in two years ago.
Speaker 3 (38:48):
What the hell were they thinking? No, if it fails,
I mean if he was the guy, right, he was
the guy.
Speaker 1 (38:53):
It's not like you went outside the box and said, oh,
I know nobody will, but this is.
Speaker 3 (38:58):
A guy that's really going to work for us.
Speaker 1 (38:59):
Not if Ben Johnson doesn't work out, it's like okay
and you move on. And it's not like suddenly you
made a bad decision. This was the guy to go
get right, so that.
Speaker 4 (39:08):
Well, even if it was a bad decision, it was
the it was the thing that made the most sense.
The only other one that would have worked. I think
Bears fans as a whole wouldn't have been thrilled, you know,
one hundred percent, But Mike McCarthy was the other guy.
Because you've got proof of concept in two very unique
circumstances in green Bay and Dallas.
Speaker 1 (39:31):
Yeah, I would be a tough one man. That would
have been we need a Green Bay guy to come in.
That would have been a tough one man that rivers
three hundred yard game the first game callab Hey, I
love Mike McCarthy, but up until that.
Speaker 3 (39:43):
Point, it would be really difficult. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (39:45):
So now it's all about the staff, right, who do
you get to come in? If Frayley's the offensive coordinator,
is Dennis Allen the guy some have stumped for Ron
Rivera to be the coordinator all in I'd love to
see the notes they made from each of the seventeen
candidates they interviewed. What did they learn earned from each
of them, whether it's for the draft process or the
roster building or reconstruction as it stands.
Speaker 1 (40:07):
Exit out about a Fresca exit swalling down the Jason
Smith Show with my best friend Mike Carmon.
Speaker 3 (40:12):
I mean, just get Caleb Williams right, That's all you
have to do.
Speaker 1 (40:15):
But what about that? It doesn't matter. I'm getting Caleb
Williams right, and that is absolutely Ben Johnson's wheelhouse.
Speaker 4 (40:21):
But you have to LoveFest right. Last week there there
was a Bears reporter that was asking it, you know,
about Caleb Williams right in the service in front, like
we're talking about this game, Hey, what.
Speaker 3 (40:31):
Did you What did you think of Caleb Williams.
Speaker 4 (40:34):
So you've got some of that in the track record,
and he and his kids looked at I mean, his
kids ran to Caleb Williams locker for the photo op
today as they invaded Allis Hall.
Speaker 3 (40:44):
So you know, at least on the front, a lot
of good.
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really face we play it on the show. It's just
like we'll be playing the e l GS e s
Eglessles Chance for the rest of this week, and if
the Eagles go to the Super Bowl, we'll play We'll
be playing e L G S L E Yes the
the rest of the week's two.
Speaker 4 (01:15):
Yeah, it would appear that they've already got some shirts
being sold out there with this on it.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
Yeah, in surprise, surprise, out of Washington, a couple of
radio stations.
Speaker 4 (01:25):
Get in there and so fly el ghisles, fly t shirts.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
Listen, you know, let's let's let's play more than the
flying Elvis's h Yeah, yeah, that's true. Chapter.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
Let's sell everybody what we're talking about here. In case
your case you're just picking this up. Welcome the Mayor
of Philadelphia. Before the Eagles playoff game against the Rams
on Sunday, Charrelle Parker, at an event, wanted to urge
everybody to get to the Eagles game safely. Hey, you
got a big game today. She wanted to do a
big go Birds chant. So, you know, the Eagles chant
is spelling Eagles, which I don't understand. How far have
(02:04):
we lowered the bar for teams where just spelling.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
The name is a chant.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
It's a whole song.
Speaker 4 (02:08):
Though I understand the Eagles fly and the spelling it
out come on.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
But I but I understand the Jets have been doing
this for almost forty years town Jack. You know, well
yeah that too. That's more than forty years. For you
go further back than that, you gotta go fifty sixty years.
But here is uh Mayor Charell Parker who tries to
lead everybody in an eagles chant and leads everyone astray.
Speaker 5 (02:33):
Hey, ow gee, yes, let's go birds elk it's got
laughing in the background is yeah, did you can hear him?
Speaker 1 (02:46):
You know, I've seen this thing now like yeah, I
don't know, a hundred times and it's like a piece
of music where where after a while you're like you're new,
you get a new favorite part or a movie you've
scene a bunch of times, going oh, now this this
is my favorite person in the movie used to be
this person, like I from my favorite part being the
people trying to follow along with her chant, like they
can't because they're trying to just go e A G
(03:07):
L E s. She goes E G L E L
G Wait Hey, hey, as okay, clap clack cloly No,
I can figure it out. But then I just you
just see how happy she is doing the chant, just
how excited she is to be trying to spell Eagles
and not getting it right, but just so happy.
Speaker 3 (03:25):
The whole time. I'm getting the chant Eagles and I'm
getting it wrong.
Speaker 6 (03:28):
He now g.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
Yes me, I really, I mean another one hundred times.
Maybe it's a different part. I will I will find
it in my paint.
Speaker 6 (03:41):
Oh.
Speaker 3 (03:41):
I mean, it's like listening to Hotel California. Now.
Speaker 4 (03:44):
I'm fixating on the base part that is eat.
Speaker 3 (03:50):
I think we're all missing the point on this one, though.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
What I don't know for us, what's the point on
this I'm afraid the only person in the city that
can't screw this up is her. Uh yeah, yeah, Well
anybody else's no, no, no, no, no. Mayor Parker and
A J. Brown Because A J. Brown reads, We know
AJ Brown reads. He can't screw that up. He knows
what says Eagles gets. Those two people can't.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
Screw You don't know if he reads. We don't even
don't know if he reads.
Speaker 4 (04:17):
Well, I mean, how many times have you seen lebron
photograph You think, I mean, come a fake.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
Reading on the sideline when he's I'm just gonna be
reading because I want people to know him upset.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
I'm not getting the football. No, we know he reads,
he could doodles.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
I'm just randomly highlighting things to make it look like
I know what I well, I mean, we didn't actually
see him actively with a highlighter. Now look, I will
say this, okay, because because there there there's a there's
a thing here like I I do remember, and I'll
go back see because and this is this is fifth
grade though, so I'm going back a long way, right,
I've not I've not held onto this for you know,
forty years, not not at all, but I you know,
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like I was always a great speller, right, and I
always was. And in fifth grade, I remember in second
grade I was reading it like a like a twelfth
grade level, Like you know, I read all the time.
Speaker 3 (05:03):
People surprise you read? Yes, I read all the time.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
So when it came time for the fifth grade spelling bee,
I was sick, and so I missed the day of
the spelling bee. That got it down from the classes
from the individual class to the finals, which is the
top person from each class. So the first day I
was really mad I missed it, but the teacher said, listen,
you know, I know you're gonna do really well.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
You just have you have to spell.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
The same number of words a difficulty that the top
person from from from the class already is spelled, and
and we're going to continue on and see who wins.
And I said, okay, great, so I'm spell a whole
bunch of words, and Gain says okay. And this was
the word that got me to be the champion of
the class and it was underground, and I'm like, got
it right? So I say it and all of a sudden,
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missus pinito and she looks at me and she goes no,
and I go no. To this day, I have no
idea what I spelled. But I'm like, how did I
get that wrong? I mean I knew how to spell.
I mean, it's the easy word underground, under its stewards,
undering round I got. I'm like, what did I say?
And I looked at my friend. I sat down and
I was just stunned because I'm like, this is like
the biggest thing in my life, Like I'm going to
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be in front of the whole school for the spelling bee.
And I said, well, I said, what did I say?
He goes, you got it wrong? How did I get it?
Speaker 3 (06:14):
What did I do? To this day, anybody gets it?
Nobody nobody knew what you did, but I said you
were wrong.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
Well, she said I was wrong, and there was nobody
that said no, he got it right because it was
in front.
Speaker 3 (06:23):
Of the whole class.
Speaker 4 (06:24):
So she didn't go over it to say, hey, this
is where you aired.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
No, because I was moved on and I was just
I was just embarrassed. I'm like, how did I get
that wrong? And that again to this day, I have
no idea. And when I went home, and I feel
so bad about this because I lied to my mom.
Like she said to me, she said, how did you do?
And I said, oh, I lost it, you know, getting
in I lost like in the getting in the finals.
Speaker 3 (06:47):
What was your word? My mom?
Speaker 1 (06:49):
My mom was very yeah, no, my mom was very
uh uh into my my my career. As far as
a student went, she was always she was someone who
would say, what did you get on your tech? I
got a ninety five? Oh, what did Joseph Schultz get?
One of my friends, Oh you got a ninety six.
What did Andrea Glassberg get? Oh she got a ninety eight,
like like all these people that got hired, like ninety
five wasn't good enough?
Speaker 3 (07:10):
Right, I'm like, okay, come on, yeh.
Speaker 4 (07:12):
I never got the comparison to other people. It's like,
where'd those five percent go?
Speaker 3 (07:16):
Yeah? She go, she goes, She's like, what did these
other people do? Huh?
Speaker 1 (07:20):
Okay, right, I couldn't get a hey, really nice job, right,
ninety five great?
Speaker 3 (07:23):
Right, that's out of one hundred, not two hundred. And
I like, okay.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
She said what was your word? And I go, I
gotta make something up. I can't tell her underground. You're
gonna be mad at me. So I said conscience was
my word? I said conscience and she goes, oh, that's
a really you know, I just learned how to spell
that not too long ago.
Speaker 3 (07:37):
You know what a big help. It's con science.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
I said, oh yeah, she's yeah, oh.
Speaker 3 (07:43):
Why that's a really hard Wow, that's a really hard word.
Speaker 4 (07:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (07:45):
Yeah, I'm going Please don't go to parent teacher.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
And I had asked about why I got conscience, and
I missed underground, Please don't do that. And I was
so nervous when she did go to parenteer, but she
never asked about the spelling bee she was on.
Speaker 3 (07:56):
I think I was. I probably wasn't doing great in
something else or science. I don't know her.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
He was like more concerned about that. But I was
so nervous he's gonna go and find out lie to
her about the word because I was just so embarrassed.
But here's the thing, I got underground wrong. I was
nine years old. Okay, I was nine and I got
underground wrong. I'd be sure ell Parker's but it's fifty
and you get he can't spell eagle and she's the mayor.
Speaker 3 (08:18):
Yeah, we can't forget that part. I know, No, we're not.
That's why we're playing.
Speaker 4 (08:22):
She didn't have to pass a spelling test.
Speaker 3 (08:26):
To become mayor.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
Maybe you should maybe, but now, but look I could
be the mayor if they was spelling well.
Speaker 4 (08:31):
But yeah, good humor and honesty about hey I failed,
ha ha. You know, we we strive for perfection, but
we don't achieve it.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
All those things, she owned it.
Speaker 4 (08:41):
I mean, I'm sure there was a crisis management little
uh pow wow after that, especially the again the maniacal
laugh that guy as it goes horribly wrong in the clip.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
But yeah, no, that's tough. I'm glad you buried.
Speaker 4 (08:56):
Your soul about you know, your your your face in
the spelling be though, really it made you that much
more relatable.
Speaker 3 (09:03):
Not even not yet.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
And and the thing is, I have like three really
bad spelling bet stories like the like the the in
sixth grade and seventh grade.
Speaker 3 (09:13):
Okay, would you ever.
Speaker 4 (09:14):
Taken down by someone like Jason Bateman in Bad Words?
Great movie for those who haven't seen it.
Speaker 6 (09:21):
No.
Speaker 3 (09:21):
In sixth grade.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
Sixth grade, I lost the school wide guy was me
and somebody else school wide competition and it went like
ten extra rounds and it was it was insane and
I lost, Like the kid was the smartest kid in
the school and and it was just like insane, and
I lost.
Speaker 3 (09:37):
I was really mad.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
And then seventh grade I lost because the word was chromosome, right,
and the tea and it's okay, chromosome, and it was
down like that. And this is middle school. Now there's
way more kids in the school and there's down to
like five or.
Speaker 3 (09:50):
Six of us.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
And she goes, okay, chromosome and the first person gets it,
spells it wrong. She's okay because now she was upset
because we're getting near the end.
Speaker 4 (09:57):
Did you chrome instead? No, I start singing.
Speaker 3 (10:04):
So she goes chromosome okay, and then the person got
it wrong. I'm like, oh, well, they got it wrong.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
She goes, okay, Jason chromosome, and I'm like, oh, okay,
I spell it.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
I spell it wrong.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
And now the sixth person who goes, this girl gets
to hear everybody spelled it wrong, changes and she spells
it right and she wins. And the teacher did this
because we're getting close to the end of the assembly
and she wanted to wrap it up and everything else.
And I went to her at the end. I said,
you know, that really wasn't fair, and she goes, I can't.
I can't help you spell the word wrong. And I said,
now I can believe, I said seventh grade.
Speaker 3 (10:34):
I said, it's.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
Unfair because she got to listen to five of us
spell that word wrong. She had an unfair advantage over
everybody else who went you should have changed words like
they do in the tournament.
Speaker 3 (10:44):
And she looked at me. I remember she looked at me,
and she was like, okay, okay, and.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
Then didn't say anything like I just got put in
my place by a seventh grader. Wow, okay, Because I
sometimes I feel like, boy, I'm like five years old
still sometimes I feel like I'm wise beyond my years.
When I that was really unfair, and there's nothing she
could say because she's right. Like when you give somebody,
you get to hear five chances how he spelled it wrong,
and I never got chromosome wrong. After that, I'm like
Noah Wyley a few good men. I never dropped my
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rifle after that, I just I still thought, Man, my
life is a speller, like I could have been somebody.
I could have been there, and three times it just
didn't work out. I'm like the Lamar Jackson of spelling,
Like I just get so close and something happened.
Speaker 3 (11:25):
But what happened?
Speaker 1 (11:26):
He's so good all the time, spells everything right. Then
he gets to a point where the pressure is on
he can't win. He's the Detroit Lions of spelling, so good,
but no, it gets to a big point he can't win.
Speaker 3 (11:35):
That's me.
Speaker 4 (11:36):
It's a wonder I can think it all. Coda chrome
ko da ch r o emmy. No. Look, I would
give that girl credit for the fact that she was
able to cancel the noise in her head and pay
attention to you guys all failing.
Speaker 3 (11:51):
Yeah, that would have been my response if I was
the teacher.
Speaker 4 (11:53):
But clearly she was not quick witted in thinking of
that response to put your seventh grade ass in.
Speaker 3 (11:59):
It's no, I still I still well.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
You were the Jets in middle school.
Speaker 3 (12:06):
I couldn't. I mean, no, no, no, the Aget Not
only were you taken l's, you were getting bullied.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
No no, but I had a lot of promise, unlike
the Jets, like I had, I had a loh.
Speaker 4 (12:15):
No, no, no, no, no, hey, there was a lot
of hope this year. Everybody conveniently forgetting all their twenty
twenty four preseason predictions the last week or two.
Speaker 3 (12:24):
Oh I had this team.
Speaker 1 (12:25):
No, you're lying, ass had the Jets'.
Speaker 3 (12:33):
That's tough, it's I get it.
Speaker 1 (12:34):
But again, these are stories for when I was nine,
ten and eleven.
Speaker 4 (12:39):
Right, the fact that you remember these things, they've really
left an indelible uh etching on your soul.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I still remember them
because I'm thinking about spelling it right, and I just
started thinking all the spelling. Oh yeah yeah, yeah, underground chromosome.
Speaker 3 (12:54):
Oh sure, sure, Tony is there's uh you got you.
Tony Richardson's spelling Jets I made.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
I'm telling you him, spelling Jets wrong is better than
her spelling Eagles. Wrong because he's closer. He's closer, he's
closer to it. He gets the first three letters right,
then he gets the fourth letter wrong. Now granted there's
only four letters, but he gets it wrong.
Speaker 4 (13:13):
Now, but here's the letter now, the third letter and
the fourth letter is no. But here's the difference. Hers
has now gone viral, okay, but originally it was just
to fail in the city. His was national on a
massive event.
Speaker 3 (13:27):
Yeah, yeah, I know, there was no hiding. He was
at the NFL draft.
Speaker 4 (13:31):
Was able to gest date for a bit before it
went national and went viral.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
So no, every time someone says that to me, when
did Tony Richardson spell spell that wrong? I say, yeah,
he was at the draft, I go, yeah, right before
they announced getting the pick of Christian Hackenberg.
Speaker 3 (13:50):
Meanwhile, it wasn't.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
But it's a better story when I said it, yeah,
then announced Christian Hackenberg with the second rep.
Speaker 3 (13:56):
You sure they got that right? Oh no, No, My
other things that jud Jet's got right now. Oh, I
just meant the name on the card. He getting the
pick right now, right away.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
That's where that's like trying to spell eagles in your
first letter is an X, Like that's it's not gonna
work X silent x l ees.
Speaker 3 (14:20):
X at. How about a.
Speaker 1 (14:21):
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Speaker 1 (17:04):
Well, as we get we'll get back to spelling later on,
because I think there is something to be said for spelling.
Speaker 3 (17:10):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
Major League Baseball Hall of Fame. The new class was
announced today to no one's surprise. Ichiro Suzuki. Uh nearly unanimous.
Of course, one person didn't vote for each Youiro for
some unknown reason.
Speaker 3 (17:25):
It was not Rob.
Speaker 1 (17:25):
Parker said, now it could be a parody account that
that voted somehow voted for that didn't vote.
Speaker 3 (17:36):
Just it's pretty good. Uh So we talked about that.
Speaker 1 (17:42):
We'll get into that part of it a little bit
later because something a little bit different here about uh
the class this year. That's Ichro Suzuki, c CE Sabbathi
and Billy Wagner and you know every time, you know,
the Hall of Fame comes up and it's and it's
you know, here's Echiro and Sabbathi and Billy Wagner.
Speaker 3 (17:56):
Like it makes me.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
It makes me feel old, like not many things in
sports make me feel old when I think about seeing
someone's career fully as an adult that is fifteen eighteen
years not like, hey, I remember when I was a
teenager and I watched their career and you know, they
finished when I was thirty whatever was. But like when
I'm a full blown thirty year old man and somebody
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else's career starts and I remember it because I was
a full blown adult, the whole thing, and then we
talk about their Hall of Fame. That makes you feel old,
like yeah, and I remember everything about this guy's career.
It's not like these hazy memories like when you're eleven
or twelve and I thought this happened.
Speaker 3 (18:32):
I thought he had a home run that was seven.
Speaker 1 (18:33):
Hundred and fifty feet turned out to be three hundred
and seventy five feet. But this is yeah, each yi o,
Sabbathia Wager. These are all guys like my entire life,
my thirties and forties. Yeah, watch them play and watch
them play really well for a long time. Not much
makes me feel old. This does, yeah, we oftentimes for.
Speaker 4 (18:51):
Me, it's when the juniors start finding their way into
the game, right because we're old enough that we watched
a lot of Ken Griffy senior right in his final
years of playing in Cincinnati and New York and whatever.
And then Junior came along, had his whole career. He's
been retired forever.
Speaker 3 (19:08):
And in the Hall of Fame forever. So you have that.
Speaker 4 (19:11):
But now you see so many like college football players.
We watched their dad's whole careers, and now there they
are on the grid iron. But yes, certainly I remember
eachro coming to the US, what a huge deal that
was he and Albert Pooholes in two thousand and one,
and we're watching these guys as grown ass men, one
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you know, who'd been played seven years in the pros
in Japan, the other coming into Saint Louis and watching
them just dominate from day one, watching their whole careers
and thinking about how long I mean, that's five years retired.
Like I'm looking at the class for next year, I'm like.
Speaker 3 (19:50):
That guy's been on a baseball for five years already.
Come on, yeah, but you.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
Know, but the thing is about the class, because this
is another big thing is that know you hear we
make fun with Jason Cole and call you vote for
the Hall of very Good, the Hall of very Good.
But quite honestly, when I look at the careers of
CC Sabbathia and Billy Wagner, Metsio, uh, these guys were
really really good, but.
Speaker 3 (20:14):
Were they Hall of famers? Like like you have to be.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
It's got to not even be a debate, like you're
a Hall of Famer or you're not. And you know,
I don't mean from the perspective of all Billy Wagner on.
Speaker 3 (20:23):
The ballot for the last time and now finally he
gets in.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
Look, I get the I get the business of baseball,
and that, hey, it looks bad if we have a
Hall of Fame year where only one person goes in,
it looks like it looks like it's a bad year
for baseball. We had nobody else worthy of the Hall
of Fame. So uh, And that's a big benefit for
a lot of players who have a borderline resume, is that, Hey,
the sport wants to make it look like they have
they have stars everywhere so we want to put it
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at least three people every year, at least five. We
want to get as many people in as possible. Every
single year can have a year where just one person
gets in, because honestly, eachiro this should have been he
gets in, right, you know, and and and the fact
that Sabbathia and Billy Wagner get in. Look, CC Sabbathia
was really good, and now to get in the Hall
of Fame, it's pretty simple. If you're really good over
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a long period of time, and the end of your
career isn't I'm falling off the cliff. And sometimes doesn't
matter if you do that, because you look at a
guy like Miguel Cabrera, like the guy last ten years,
but it doesn't matter.
Speaker 3 (21:21):
Look at what he did the first ten years. But
like you know, like.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
CC Sabathia, he played in nineteen years in the league,
you know, twelve years as era was over three and
a half.
Speaker 3 (21:32):
You know, forget about the wins. The wins are impressive.
Speaker 1 (21:34):
Two hundred and fifty one wins is pretty good, but
he was always a pretty good pitcher.
Speaker 3 (21:39):
And you know, he had a good three or four
year run without Sabbathia.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
Is really, really good, But the vast majority of the
time he was an average pitcher. I'm not even asking
to have an ERA under three, you know, or under
under two or so that you have an era minuscultat no.
But his ERA was over three and a half twelve
out of his eighteen years. Like Billy Wagner, you know,
hardly ever led the league in anything, you know, as
a closer. Yes, he's got great over the course of
his career, and his batting average that he's given up
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to opponents over players who have faced over eight hundred
batters in their careers the lowest. Like you can look
anywhere for stats to find something, but when you look
at the over the longevity of nineteen years, two hundred
and fifty one wins, like that's what's going to do it.
Because baseball to stop being able to put in a
lot of stars because of the Mitchell era and all
the steroids. A Rod's not getting in bonds, Clemens, all
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these guys aren't getting in. But they want to be
able to keep putting players in because they want to
make it look like we still have great players. So
you're in a sweet spot now where there's a lot
of players the last few years where I go, yeah,
I don't know, man, Yeah, I mean really they were.
But when I see somebody, oh, you're a seven time
All Star, well you played nineteen years, so that meant
like every three years you were good enough to be
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an All Star. Like that's something that stands out to me.
And and you know, Casey's a Bathian and his era
three out of every four years was was pedestrian at best,
which is really what you want to measure a a
picture by what's his era look like, what's his whip
look like? And his whip wasn't great, right, his whip
was up near one point three for his career. But
he won games, He was popular, and he was someone
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that was able to stay in the rotation for a
long time. Even at the end of his career when
as era is up over four, he's still able to
make twenty five to thirty starts for the Yankees. And
and that's a big thing, just being healthy enough to
make all these starts and to not be to the
point where, hey, your record is two and nine, your
era is five and a half, you're either in the
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bullpen or releasing you. All you have to do is
just be okay enough to not get a demotion, and
you can wind up putting together enough stats and point nineteen.
Speaker 3 (23:41):
Years here where we vote people in.
Speaker 1 (23:43):
I mean, so that's really what it's become, is that
if you're if you're really good for a long period
of time, of course you're going to assimilate numbers and
it's gonna look like you had an amazing career. But
when when I can sit back and make an argument
against you just as much as I can make one
for you, are.
Speaker 3 (23:59):
You really had?
Speaker 1 (24:00):
Like I said, I can make the argument against Caeczabathia,
I just did. I make the one against Billy Wagner,
I just did. Can't make one against Eachiro Suzuki Hall
of Famer? I mean it should be that easy. Yes,
there are borderline cases here and there where it's, man,
I don't know this, this guy did this and the
like Craig Bgo three thousand hits? Did he really? Was
he really that great? Or was he just able to
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play second base for a long time and be able
to hold the job down and be steady?
Speaker 3 (24:26):
Right? Like?
Speaker 1 (24:26):
Is that a hall of fame? Like that's a big debate, right,
that's about three thousands? Is a badge number man, you know,
but I mean when I can make an argument for you,
I get that the new thing is just hey, if
I play fifteen eighteen years, you know, seven or eight
All Star appearances and and I don't wind up, you know,
falling off the cliff at the end. Yeah, I got
a great case for the Hall of Fame, and I'll
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probably make it because the because Baseball wants to put
players in, the hit it.
Speaker 3 (24:51):
They hit it.
Speaker 1 (24:52):
They hit the skids with the steroid era, and they
went through a lot of years where people didn't get in.
So now I want to just keep putting players and
keep putting players in, even players now who he didn't
get into. That of the big senior candidates like Dave
Parker got in, And I was like, when I were
Dave Parker when I was a kid, I was so scared.
Dave Parker was such a big, fearsome hitter, and he
had a great army.
Speaker 3 (25:09):
They would play the Cobras thing every time he came up.
Speaker 1 (25:11):
You get Dave Parker's numbers, like, Okay, Dave Parker was good,
but he played a long time and he was able
to hold onto his starting job and play one hundred
and forty games. And when you can do that, of
course you're gonna hit. If you have some kind of talent,
you're gonna hit twenty some odd home runs. You're gonna
knock in eighty runs or seventy five runs. That's pretty good,
but it's not Hall of Fame. But the line has
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blurred so much to the point where players know, if
I just have a really good career for fifteen to
eighteen years, and I can just hold on to my
job and I can stay healthy and play one hundred
and forty games, I got a great shot to get.
Speaker 3 (25:44):
In the Hall of Fame. Yeah, I mean it's we
come back to aggregation.
Speaker 4 (25:49):
The whole Mitchell era, right, the Mitchell Report itself seems
to be discarded.
Speaker 3 (25:57):
Yeah, and it was right.
Speaker 4 (25:59):
They said, hey, we were just try to get a survey,
but you know, information got leaked, some got affected, some didn't.
Some wag their fingers at Congress and were stat aggregators.
Speaker 3 (26:10):
And later failed tests.
Speaker 4 (26:12):
And then you have to decide, you know, it was
the time, did you hold it against it? You know,
some get up on their little soap boxes and keep
wagging their fingers. They never gave back the millions they
made calling those games and turning a blind eye, you
know when everybody talked about how much more access.
Speaker 3 (26:31):
You had back then.
Speaker 2 (26:32):
Yeah, you didn't know what was going on.
Speaker 3 (26:35):
I guys, I wave at all of you as you.
Speaker 4 (26:39):
Go through, but you know, and then selectively deciding which
guys you like from that era, which you don't. You know,
Sammy Sosi has now been embraced by the Cubs, does
that mean they'll embrace him back in Major League Baseball?
In the voting, Yeah, probably not. Kurt Shilling. You don't
like his politics, so you leave him out because he's
a guy that his numbers would match up with Sabbathia
(26:59):
and all these other guys. Right, So it just becomes
at times a bit arbitrary as to how you because
it's look, it's loaded with scoundrels. We've always talked about that,
and now we get into, you know, aggregation versus domination.
Speaker 1 (27:14):
Right.
Speaker 4 (27:15):
The next on the active players list for pitching for wins,
Garrett Coles at one hundred and fifty three wins. It's
two hundred the new threshold for longevity and history and
the curiosity for me, though, Jason comes with the people
that are voting for it, like it's one thing that
it goes to a committee of former managers and ball players,
(27:38):
and they may see a guy's value as different than
what's just on the back of the baseball card, like
a Dave Parker or a Dick Allen that go in
this year versus Billy Wagner's been on that for ten years.
And I like Billy Wager. I'm happy he gets in. Right,
he was like five foot nothing.
Speaker 3 (27:56):
Like me five He could throw ninety eight miles an Hour's.
Speaker 4 (28:00):
Canny for an arm longevity all that stuff and what
eighth all time saves and whatever else. I'll start stumping
from Mark Burley while I'm at it while we're having
these conversations. But it's just that idea of when you
get to the veterans committee in those then I understand,
all right, now it's you're looking at it through a
different lens. But when it's a hey, he's been on
(28:22):
the ballot for ten years, it's his last year and
he gets in. That's why I raised my hand and go,
why did you come over this year? Why not year nine?
Why not your aid? Why did it take all these
years to convince you to get to critical mass next
year is interesting because you look at all the first
time ballot guys. There's not a single one of those
(28:42):
guys that you say, all right, he's getting in. No,
but suddenly Andrew Jones gonna pop over.
Speaker 3 (28:48):
The threshold or the voting.
Speaker 1 (28:50):
That's why the voting gets to be the way it is,
because what it should be is that, listen, do we
really have that many players that should make the Hall
of Fame?
Speaker 7 (28:57):
No?
Speaker 1 (28:57):
You know what, vote for the top three this year. Right,
vote for your top three and then see how many
people don't get in. But no, vote for your top ten,
and maybe somebody can get enough votes whatever, and you
can squeak them through. When here's on the thing toting,
you gotta rank them. You got to rank him. You
got to put them on this list. And yeah, Andrew
Jones will probably wind up getting way more votes because
he's close. He might be the Billy Wagner of next year.
(29:19):
He's the guy if he stopped playing after ten years,
he'd be in the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 4 (29:22):
Well, those final five years really bad. I mean it
got him over the four hundred homer threshold, but that
didn't mean what it did to us twenty five years ago. Now,
I mean like the four hundred home run club was
a big deal.
Speaker 3 (29:35):
Yeah, oh sure it was, yeah, five hundred. I mean
it was rarefied air.
Speaker 4 (29:39):
We're talking you know, Schmidt and all those guys, like
it's greatness. And then four hundred became the threshold and
then now what is it?
Speaker 1 (29:48):
Yeah, I mean, look, Baseball's put in the way they
have the voting. They've greased the skids so we can
get more people in, right, And I understand what they're doing.
Speaker 3 (29:57):
It's just very difficult to say, hey, each your.
Speaker 1 (30:00):
Oh and CC Sabbathia and Billy Wagner like okay, I
mean come on, man, like there's you know, it's almost
like it should be like tiers of the Hall of Fame,
like it like like Sanders, like like like the like
there should be, Hey, there's a top tier Hall of
Fame that players like eachiro get in.
Speaker 3 (30:18):
Then that could be the next tier where like C. C.
Speaker 1 (30:20):
Sabbathia gets in and Billy Wagner gets in, but that
top tier for like Rivera and Jeter and you know,
and and each You're like that needs to be some
sort of thing. Hey, you know, we're we're we're up
here now, Okay, just so you know, this special wing
of the Hall of we're special hall of famers. These
guys are the Hall of Fame. However you want to
do it, because just when you say, oh wow, you
(30:43):
compare eachro to to the two of them, it's like wow, okay,
there's really no comparison, right, none of them, neither of
them dominated like eachiro did for for the time of
his career. Not that they weren't good, but again, it's
hall of fame, right, That's that's one of the big
uh sayings that I've always prescribed to a hall of fame,
not hall of very good and right hall of fame.
It should be easy, it should be an easy thing.
(31:03):
But this is what you get when you baseball wants
to keep putting people in. Just again, flight fifteen plus years.
Don't lose your job. Stay, stay, stay where you could,
just be solid, and you will put up enough numbers
and get credit.
Speaker 3 (31:14):
For the Hall of Fame. Well that get us into
the Radio Hall of Fame. Make it make an all
star team every three or four years. You're good. That's
all you need is every three or four years. It's fine.
Speaker 7 (31:22):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (31:22):
Time now to find out what's trending in the wide
world of sports.
Speaker 1 (31:25):
But guy who has made the update anchor All Star
Game pretty much one out of every four years himself.
Speaker 3 (31:31):
It's Steve Seger onto the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 6 (31:34):
Legend. As you were talking about this, I am reminded
of Jack Morris as in the Hall of Fame, like
Sabbathi about two hundred and fifty wins, his career array
was three point nine to oh Compare that to Tom
sever three hundred wins and about two point nine oh
ERA and they're in the same.
Speaker 3 (31:51):
Hall, White Sox Hall of Famer, that's correct.
Speaker 6 (31:55):
He got us with the White Sox, that's right. Echiro Suzuki.
The vote was nearly youamus for him for the Hall C. C.
Sabbathi and he had over three thousand strikeouts and Billy
Wagner over four hundred career saves. The ra two point
three to one. Two things noted for Wagner today is
one as you reference lowest career batting average against him,
(32:16):
number three on the list. Sandy Kofax hitters batted about
two hundred against him, Nolan Ryan hitters batted about two
hundred against him, and Ryan's career under one ninety the
batting average against Billy Wagner. He's also number one all
time in strikeout rate, literally one out of three batters
that ever faced him, and the majors struck out.
Speaker 2 (32:36):
As for next.
Speaker 6 (32:37):
Year's class, well, you're right, who knows because under the
ballot in a year is Cole Hammil's Matt Camp, Ryan
Brawn and others, and in two years John Lester, Buster
Posey and others on the ballot. This year's class will
be inducted in Cooperstown in late July, along with Dick
Allen and Dave Parker, who were in election last month
via committee, not via the writers. The Vikings gave coach
(32:59):
Kevin O'Connell contract extension. In college hoops tonight, they've just
finished at Pauley Pavilion. UCLA beats number eighteen Wisconsin eighty
four eighty three. It was an overtime win at nineteenth
rank Yukon and Connecticut eighty to seventy eight over Butler,
Texas has beaten number twenty two Missouri, Arizona State won
at number twenty three West Virginia, and earlier Ohio State
(33:21):
got to win at number eleven per Due in a
comeback seventy three seventy to the NBA. There are two
late games. The Lakers are at the half and leading
fifty nine forty nine over Washington, which has lost ten
in a row. Philly has lost six straight and is
losing at Denver tonight one oh six eighty six Nuggets
late in the third. Earlier wins for Portland, New York
(33:41):
and Toronto in a comeback against Orlando at the NHL.
Speaking of compacks, Nashville was down five to one in
the second but was a seven to five winner against
San Jose. And At the Australian Open, Madison Keys of
the US has won her quarterfinal and number two Egas
Fiantec has just advad advanced easily.
Speaker 1 (34:00):
Back to you, Thank you, Steve though The Jason Smith
Show with Mike Carmon live from the Tirack dot Com
Studios coming up next. Somebody just got paid more money
than you ever thought they.
Speaker 3 (34:11):
Were gonna make. We break it down next Jason and
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Speaker 2 (34:16):
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Speaker 1 (34:26):
The Jason Smith Show with My Best friend Mike Harmon
live from Thetirack dot Com studios, and we had the
story yesterday Ben Johnson could be the next head coach
of the Chicago Bears. Okay, well, we kind of knew that,
we heard coming in all right, great, we knew the
Bears would have to do a little bit of convincing
to get Ben Johnson to take the job. But now
(34:47):
it turns out we find out just how much convincing
they had to do. Some of the top coaches in
the NFL make upwards, you know, fourteen, fifteen, eighteen, nineteen
million dollars a year. Ben Johnson, as a first time
head coach, according to numerous sources, is getting at least
thirteen million dollars a year from the Bears right now.
(35:10):
You usually don't see a first time guy getting even
the most sought after guys, but he's getting at least
thirteen million dollars from the Bears. And I'll tell you this,
it's a coup on so many levels for both sides.
It is because number one Chicago is a unique opening
in that they have to harness their talent first and
(35:31):
then worry about building a culture. Like most of the
other teams, is Hey, we got to build a culture
and then we'll start winning right when. The Jets need
a culture, the Jaguars need a culture, the Raiders need
a culture. All they all need culture and then we'll win. No,
the Bears have the players. You gotta harness the talent first.
You have one job. If you're if you're Ben Johnson,
get Caleb Williams going right. Everything else can come away
from that. You have the players. You're not going to
(35:53):
get rid of DJ Moore, You're not going to get
rid of Roma, Duneza, Cole Comets your tight end. You've
got a pretty decent defense. You have to harness the talent.
So here's Ben Johnson, one of the best offensive minds
in the NFL. This is who you had to go get.
It's a coup for the Bears to get a guy.
Of all the openings, none of them are great. The
Bears is the best one. They got, the number one guy.
(36:14):
They're paying him thirteen million. He's a bargain if they
had to pay him twenty million dollars. And for Johnson,
he's going to the one job where he can jump
in and be a difference maker right away. Is he
a culture guy?
Speaker 3 (36:25):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (36:26):
Could he set a culture, I don't know. I know
one thing. He can coach a hell out of an
offense and a quarterback. Got Jared Goff back from the
Abyss to being a Pro Bowl quarterback and getting another
huge contract. So yeah, Ben Johnson's job coming in. Get
Caleb Williams going right, and you'll and you're on the
path to succeed. Nothing else matters in Chicago. This was
an absolute coup for both levels. Doesn't matter the money.
(36:48):
He's the right guy in the right opening. Ben Johnson's
got to be happy. The Bear's got to be ecstatic.
Speaker 4 (36:54):
Look at the Bear's credit that they finally got away
from the Trace Armstrong sphere of influence. Go back and
look at all the coaching hires, this oc hires, etc.
It's all been former Bear and Dolphin. Trace Armstrong through
his agency, has been placing people his own job board. Hey,
the Bears have that opening and they call him and
(37:15):
he's able to get a guy in there.
Speaker 3 (37:17):
Not this time, different regimes. So that I joked with
Jason locking for earlier.
Speaker 4 (37:23):
I'd love to see the pitch that they made to McCaskey,
Kevin Warren and everybody to make sure that this was
gonna work right, that they were gonna be willing to
spend the money. Now you've got part of the job done.
This is the guy to maximize Caleb Williams. You still
have to go and figure out your offensive line. Remember,
quietly they cut a guy that they spent ten million
(37:44):
dollars a year on in like week ten.
Speaker 2 (37:46):
Because everything else was melting.
Speaker 4 (37:48):
It didn't matter that you swung and missed on that
free agent offensive lineman from twenty twenty three. But in theory,
your GM's supposed to know that he's a former offensive lineman.
Speaker 3 (37:59):
You think he'd be able to evaluate what can do that.
Speaker 4 (38:02):
So, yeah, that's something that has to happen because you know,
I hear a lot about Hey, Saquon Barkley, Hey Dereck Henry,
Hey Josh Jacobs.
Speaker 3 (38:09):
What do all three of those teams have in common?
Speaker 4 (38:11):
They were pretty damn good before those guys got there,
and they had good offensive lines. And that's what's gonna
need to be there to maximize Caleb Williams. Hank Frayley
is gonna come over. In theory, their O line coach
there in Detroit. His history is well established. But yeah,
you at least took the big swing. Everybody got what
they wanted. But as they always say, Smith, be careful
(38:34):
what you wish for.
Speaker 1 (38:36):
Yeah, but I mean this is the move that it's
not like and this is what this is like a
it's not a fool proof move, but it's a but
it's a critic proof move because you're not going to
look back in two years ago.
Speaker 3 (38:48):
What the hell were they thinking? No, if it fails,
I mean if he was the guy, right, he was
the guy.
Speaker 1 (38:53):
It's not like you went outside the box and said, oh,
I know nobody will, but this is.
Speaker 3 (38:58):
A guy that's really going to work for us.
Speaker 1 (38:59):
Not if Ben Johnson doesn't work out, it's like okay
and you move on. And it's not like suddenly you
made a bad decision. This was the guy to go
get right, so that.
Speaker 4 (39:08):
Well, even if it was a bad decision, it was
the it was the thing that made the most sense.
The only other one that would have worked. I think
Bears fans as a whole wouldn't have been thrilled, you know,
one hundred percent, But Mike McCarthy was the other guy.
Because you've got proof of concept in two very unique
circumstances in green Bay and Dallas.
Speaker 1 (39:31):
Yeah, I would be a tough one man. That would
have been we need a Green Bay guy to come in.
That would have been a tough one man that rivers
three hundred yard game the first game callab Hey, I
love Mike McCarthy, but up until that.
Speaker 3 (39:43):
Point, it would be really difficult. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (39:45):
So now it's all about the staff, right, who do
you get to come in? If Frayley's the offensive coordinator,
is Dennis Allen the guy some have stumped for Ron
Rivera to be the coordinator all in I'd love to
see the notes they made from each of the seventeen
candidates they interviewed. What did they learn earned from each
of them, whether it's for the draft process or the
roster building or reconstruction as it stands.
Speaker 1 (40:07):
Exit out about a Fresca exit swalling down the Jason
Smith Show with my best friend Mike Carmon.
Speaker 3 (40:12):
I mean, just get Caleb Williams right, That's all you
have to do.
Speaker 1 (40:15):
But what about that? It doesn't matter. I'm getting Caleb
Williams right, and that is absolutely Ben Johnson's wheelhouse.
Speaker 4 (40:21):
But you have to LoveFest right. Last week there there
was a Bears reporter that was asking it, you know,
about Caleb Williams right in the service in front, like
we're talking about this game, Hey, what.
Speaker 3 (40:31):
Did you What did you think of Caleb Williams.
Speaker 4 (40:34):
So you've got some of that in the track record,
and he and his kids looked at I mean, his
kids ran to Caleb Williams locker for the photo op
today as they invaded Allis Hall.
Speaker 3 (40:44):
So you know, at least on the front, a lot
of good.
Speaker 1 (40:47):
Vibes exit out about a Fresca exit swalling down. The
Jason Smith Show with Mike Carmon live from the tire
rack dot Com studios.
Speaker 3 (40:54):
Coming up next, What.
Speaker 1 (40:55):
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