January 23, 2025 • 40 mins
Jason and Mike debate if the Detroit Lions Super Bowl window is officially closed after losing both coordinators this week. Why Patrick Mahomes is now the villain. And the reason it’s time for the Warriors to trade Steph Curry!
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Why Why American Pie is playing over and over and
over and now still going, still going. Wait do I
introduce you to a little song called Inagata Davida. Wait
till that happens? Yeah, Stairway to Heaven, the long version.
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Right now, Celtics Clippers headed to overtime, the Clippers playing
with absolutely nobody. Both Mike Harmon's daughters are playing in
this game for the Clippers. They are both double figures.
They could be getting a triple double, and still the
Clippers tied with the Celtics one o three, one oh three.
Matty Harmon eighteen points, ten rebounds, Eleanor twenty points, twelve rebounds,
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six blocks. Big night for both of them.
Speaker 4 (01:24):
Yeah, I like stretching truth and telling stories here on
the radio with you. Have you ever seen Eleanor shooting basketball, Matt,
He's got.
Speaker 5 (01:37):
Some form, okay, but yeah, like Pig Miller, I don't
know when the last time I got her to shoot
a basketball was.
Speaker 4 (01:49):
To be honest with you, man, Kevin Porter, remember him? Yeah,
he playing heavy minutes tonight. Porter, coffee man, Bomba Jones.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
That is your Clippers.
Speaker 4 (01:58):
Sorry, this goes back to why you were having such
a u no Kawhi, the consternation on Tylu's face when
you saw him at lunch.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
No j Now, Tyler is gonna eat at that place
if they win this game, He's gonnat that place every
day for the next week. He's got that's absolutely going.
Speaker 4 (02:16):
He got this game minutes from four people from your bench,
Bones Island, Jordan Miller, Kobe Brown, and Cam Christy with
six minutes.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
This is I mean, this is something. I mean, ty really, Tyler,
you can't you can't tempt fate. You win this game,
you have to eat it. You have to eat where
you ate lunch today until you lose every day you
gotta eat lunch there. Yeah, it's a little soul searching
kind of day for the Celtics sperience. Man.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
So one man, it's back to backs, Jason.
Speaker 4 (02:44):
So what time does that make you have to go
out there to the restaurant and be in the bushes.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
Oh it's like twelve or twelve thirty MI stakeout right?
Speaker 3 (02:52):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (02:52):
Yeah, I like twelve twelve thirty. Yeah, sure, I mean
maybe we got his table. I don't even know.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
It was a good grass.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
He walked right by me today, right, I said, Tyler
is here, all.
Speaker 4 (02:59):
Right, But it's not like you should be tired. You
had a forty point blowout of Golden State. Oh so
you're saying I shouldn't be done, you'd be tired.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
No, I wasn't tired.
Speaker 4 (03:07):
I don't know what you ate till ten I woke up.
It's just like you were having an issue and you
were having a sleepless night.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (03:14):
Maybe Tyloo vexed you and it took sap some of
your energy. I don't know that.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
I woke up today exciting because we got Aaron Glenn.
It was great. Now Hey, speaking of Aaron Glenn, Hey,
reasons why I love my wife, like reason number seven,
four hundred and seventy six. So when the Jets got
Aaron Glenn today, I said, oh, wow, ba, what is it.
I said, Ah, Jets got Aaron Glen's a Jets next
head coach. He goes, oh, he returned the kickoff for
a touchdown the first Jets game you brought me to.
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And I said, this is why we're married. This is
why you've been together for thirty years. So she remembered
the first Jets game we ever went to and we lost, actually,
but it doesn't matter. He returned a kickoff for a
touchdowne hundred yards were touches. She always remembered that. It
was like, that's really cool.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
Did she type that out on Twitter or no?
Speaker 1 (03:59):
I was no. I said, oh, I can't believe remember
that and I put that out on Twitter's really now
the other big story from her first Jets game. Yeah,
So I said to her, going to this is the
meatal Lands. This is ninety seven. We had gone back
east for my best friend's wedding and not to see
my best friend's wedding with Julie Roberts. My best friend
got married, went back for the and then the next
day we're like, hey, let's go to the Jets game.
So we go to the Jets game and I said,
(04:20):
She says, oh, I've never been to the Jets, you
know game. Like I said, I said, trust me, you're
gonna walk in and feel like you're on mars. I said,
remember the canteena scene from Star Wars. That's just like
going to a Jets game. And she thought, ha ha,
I was kidding. We go in. She says, I'm gonna
go to the bathroo before we get to our seats. Okay, great,
I said, I'm gonna get in line, get it, get
a drink or something, get popcorn. Come back out and
(04:41):
I'm waiting for it. She comes out. She goes, oh
my god, you weren't kidding. I go, what what what
do you mean? I'm in the bathroom and it's just
me another woman in the stall because like the national
anthem's getting ready to start playing, everybody's in their seats.
I'm like, okay, so you're late, we'll get there a
little like, we'll get there. So she just says, I'm
going to stall and this other woman's in the stall
next to me, and this guy starts banging on the door, going, honey,
come on, they're gonna play the national anthem. Let's go,
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and I could hear. Next he goes, I'll be him in.
I'll be in good America, be there in a minute. Okay,
another few seconds go by. He bangs on the door again,
opens it and yells, come on, come on, you're almost ready,
almost ready. And she goes, just give me a minute,
and the door closes and the woman goes ish and
and Pam lasts. So I say to her, I said, wow,
pretty impatient. She goes, oh, yeah, well, you know the
game's gonna start soon. And then all of a sudden,
(05:23):
the door opens. You know, they hear the door open
like somebody else is coming in, And all of a sudden,
up to the stall, you hear the guy go where
are you? And he's knocking on both doors where where
Pam is? And she goes, get out of here. You
can't walk in the women's room.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
Get out of here.
Speaker 4 (05:38):
He goes, they're playing the national anthem. We're gonna miss it.
She goes get out of here like she was Edith Bunker.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
All of a sudden, she goes get out, and Pam
was like I just gotta get out, and she goes.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
I got up.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
I looked out to make sure he wasn't still in
the women's room, and I came right out to you
and I said, yes, I'll protect you for the rest
of your life.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
See it.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
I told you, this is what Jets games are liked.
Just walked into the bathroom, right up to the stall,
knocking on the door. Hey, let's go to game starting.
Let's go that and Aaron Glenn.
Speaker 4 (06:05):
She remembered, that's a memorable yeah, first event.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
Yeah, yeah, it is.
Speaker 4 (06:11):
No the Devil's into details. Yeah, my memory of anything
like that going yeah, yeah, yeah. Know for many years
of these late night I think I want to say
Jay Reamers caught a touchdown.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
She's like, oh, Michigan. I'm like, we don't celebrate the
Bill's touchdown. Yeah, maybe you have two touchdowns. We don't
celebrate that. Here we're losing. I don't care.
Speaker 4 (06:30):
He's not at Michigan anymore. This is killing us here.
I'm pretty sure he's Why would you not celebrate that?
Speaker 1 (06:37):
He was a tight end at Michigan. And I was like,
we're not celebrating this.
Speaker 6 (06:40):
Still.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
Remember the Jason Smith Show with did.
Speaker 3 (06:43):
He really, I don't know. I'm trying to bring it
up now.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
Jason Smith, Mike Harmon Live the Tyrock dot Com Studios. Now,
I'm glad we had this day because there's a conversation
that I need to have with my wife, my wife's family,
and now with everyone. Uh, it's now official. The Lions
have lost both their coordinators, Ben Johnson to the Bears
and Aaron Glenn getting the head coaching job with the Jets. Today,
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you and I are getting conspiring and teaming up to
ruin the Lions take him down. This is the conversation
we have to have. The super Bowl window for the
Lions is shut this version of the team. The window
is closed for them to get to the super Bowl.
You lose both coordinators, there's going to be a lot
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of change. Everybody likes to do things differently. That's a
really big loss to lose both of these guys, especially
when Ben Johnson is getting all kinds of credit for
this offense, because you know it's not Dan Campbell, right,
Aaron Glenn keeping the defense going. Dan Campbell is a
culture guy, So losing both of them is a huge,
huge blow. You know things are going to be different
this year because you need different You need different players
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because what you have right now is not good enough.
It's incredibly embarrassing that you go fourteen and two, show
you the best team in the NFL and you lose
your first home playoff game. Not that we made it
to the NFC Championship and a team with a great
defense came in and shut us down, and we had
a really tough day and the Niners defense just made
life for Jared Goff miserable and we lost seventeen sixteen.
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You got boat raced by the Commanders right and you
couldn't stop the Commanders offensively, and you threw up all
over yourselves on offense, and Jared Goff was terrible and
you had a bad play call for a trick play.
If you're not gonna get to the super Bowl when
you have home field advantage and you lose your first
playoff game, when are you gonna go? There needs to
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be big change now. The good news for the Lions
is they have a lot of money to spend, But
the bad news is you need a lot because you
went through a lot of injuries. Clearly you don't have
the right personnel. There's going to be change so now
you're talking about personnel change, big personnel change, two new coordinators,
and the biggest thing is the mental toll that the
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last two years are gonna take on this team going
into next year. Because Dan Campbell has pledged grit and
hard work, and you can do that and that works
as long as people see results. Right, you can pledge that,
but you gotta see results. Dan Campbell comes in, No
one's expecting anything. Hey, they have a little bit of talent.
They win a couple of games. You're not bad. Right
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end of the year. Three years ago, Oh, that had
a big win over the Packers and the whole playoff
was at stake. Oh oh the Lions, Hey, maybe they're
not bad. Then last year, a huge run to the
NFC Championship Game, and what happens. They lose because they
can't convert fourth downs. And you really can say this
was on us. We should have beaten the Niners and
have gotten the Super Bowl. We are fired up for
next season. They come in, they blow the doors off
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of everybody. They're fourteen and two. Hey we're gonna get
to the Super Bowl. Who was in our way? We
got to worry about the Eagles in the NFC Championship
game most likely, and this is where you lose. And
there's all kinds of questions because the offense was terrible,
the defense was terrible. How can you keep selling grit
and hard work when you're not seeing that When the
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grit and the hard work and determination, all of it,
that message didn't get you past the commanders. All right,
this is a team that was starting over and was
lucky if they won six games this year after the draft,
Hey we're not really getting anybody. Hey, Jayden Daniels, maybe
takes a while. Look at where they are. This is
the mental hill you have to come back from for
next year, and that's a really difficult thing. Just look
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at the forty nine ers who thought, hey, all right,
we're coming back this year and we sign all our guys,
we're good. Well what happened. It wasn't quite the same.
And they're not nearly having the turnover that the Lions have.
So this Super Bowl window for the Lions is shut.
If you didn't get there this year with that, when
are you gonna win? And now you add and all
the change it's gonna happen. Good luck, it's gonna get
worse for the Lions before it gets better, because a
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good thing is at least a lot of their young players,
a lot of their great their best players are all
very young. But it's gonna be a step back next
year before they take a step forward.
Speaker 4 (10:49):
Yeah, I've got thirty one free agents that they need
to look at. And you've got your infrastructure clearly with
what Dan Campbell's vision is. But and look off, that's
been defensive line. You've got bodies. You're gonna come back defensively.
In theory, the injury gods move on somewhere else. They
hit the forty nine ers pretty well too, but they're
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a much older team, right. You miss Fred Warner for
a chunk of the squad year. Trent Williams hit it
out of the lineup family tragedy as well. Now he's older,
may walk away. So the forty nine ers still have
a lot of other questions McCaffrey coming off another huge injury,
even if they've got decent returns from the backups. There,
you look at where the Lions are. I equated a
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little bit to what we saw with the twenty twenty
three Eagles of great personnel, some injuries in places where
you needed to shore up your roster. But you lost
your coordinators, right, you lost some of the guidance. Stikeen
goes to to Indianapolis, and while you could decide what
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you like about that, they drafted by the.
Speaker 3 (11:55):
Way they drafted Anthony Richardson.
Speaker 4 (11:57):
They said, hey, you played twelve games or fifteen games
are seventeen games in college. You're gonna come and be
a hero. Sometimes you get a really good highlight reel.
Sometimes you get a really good highlight reel for the defense.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
Sometimes you win, sometimes you don't win. That's about what
it is.
Speaker 4 (12:14):
But you lose both your coordinators, and you have a
down year, you have a reset year, and you had
but everybody would still have looked at your roster going
into twenty twenty three saying it's still one of the
top rosters. And I think we'll do the same thing
with the Lions overall, depending on how much they lose
to free agency, because there will be losses, there's no
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question about it. But you know, when you look at
aman Ross Saint Brown, when you look at Jamiir Gibbs,
you look at Jamison Williams, as long as he's not
throwing the ball, you've got the base And the other
question is who's gonna come in and relate to Jared
Goff to make sure you don't have a repeat of
his meltdown. Great year overall, but the bad ten and
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sees the pushing u the envelope when you could least
afford it, when you're at a track meet and you
decided to take the ball out of his hands and
give it to Jameson Williams. But all of that to say,
you know, is that person on staff because the latest
report is Freely's not leaving to go to Chicago. Does
that mean he's going somewhere else? Do you have someone
else internally that already has that relationship with golf or
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do you have to start that over because that's gonna
be a huge detriment if you do.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
That's another hill to climb. Exit out about a Fresco
exit swollen down the Jason smithsher with Mike Carmen. It
pains me to say it, but that window is shut
if and it's all your fault, my fault, it's all
would Ben Johnson seels good, doesn't it. No? I got
them as far as I could. Eventually somebody else needs
to do.
Speaker 3 (13:43):
No, you took him down last year and then you
killed off knuckles.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
Ben Johnson thought, after last year, I want to stay.
There's unfinished work now. Granted he would be just as
hot a head coaching candidate next year if he wanted to.
All the openings this year were terrible, but this year
he decides to go to the Bears. Could have had
a better opening. Last year, Atlant was open, different places
were open. We'd had a better stop. But he left now,
Like is he leaving now because I want to be
a head coach? Who is leaving now? Because we've gone
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as far as we can.
Speaker 4 (14:09):
Some reports that there might have been some friction with
Dan Campbell. I'm telling you it's which I would not doubt.
The window was closed. Even though with the fault, you
can't go back to Detroit. I got them as far
as I could. It is not on me. Somebody else has.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
To pick up what they're going to serve you at Whitecastle.
Speaker 3 (14:25):
I'll talk a knuckle sandwich.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
I'll just got.
Speaker 3 (14:30):
You.
Speaker 4 (14:30):
Need to clip off the entire segment because not only
does he profess his love for his wife, he also
made sure to put on un clluloid that he can
never go back to Detroit.
Speaker 1 (14:40):
Knuckles Sandwich is coming up next way, do we tell
you what Patrick Mahomes had to say today about the
chiefs getting calls from officials. That's next right here. Jason
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Speaker 1 (16:00):
Ye, American Pie still isn't going. Oh, I didn't want
to start it again. It finally ended Fox Sports Radio
The Jason Smith Show with my best friend Mike Harmon
Hobo And we'll get to the Patrick Mahomes story coming
up in a second. But because I did research on this,
I feel like I want to go. I want I
want to pay this off here.
Speaker 3 (16:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
So last night, look, the big drama of the day was,
you know, MLB Hall of Fame was announced. Each hero
gets in, of course, and he is one vote short
of getting in unanimously. And you know I told you
the first thing it was text Rob Parker, Dude, you
voted for him, right? Yeah? No, no, he said, no,
No I did, I did. I did. But there's been
(16:41):
such a big desire over the course last twenty four
hours to know who this person is. You had you
had voter saying show your face, admit yourself, you're an idiot,
you're this, you're that.
Speaker 3 (16:54):
They all need a hug.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
And so the thing is that you know because Rob
Parker is a Hall of Fame voter. And I said,
all right, we have had this story last night. I
talked to him before the show tonight and I said,
listen the story yesterday that that person that says they
didn't vote for him, but it was looked like they
were with a satirical website. But so it didn't seem
like it was true. I said, what do you think
he goes and this is this is not Rob Parker
saying he knows. But he said, you know what, this
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is probably someone who turned in a blank ballot, that
turned it in and didn't vote for anybody, because you
could do that, right. I don't think anybody's worthy of
the Hall of Fame and someone turned in a blank ballot.
And I said, that completely makes sense, and it probably is.
You know why we you know, we didn't hear from
this person because I'm sure whoever it was didn't think
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they would get this kind of reaction, Oh yeah, each
rose in ninety six percent. That's great, not thinking that,
Oh wow, I'm gonna be the only one that didn't
vote for him. So this is this makes sense as
to what voting for the Hall of Fame is like
and how people take this vote and they hijacket because
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this is this is someone who clearly thought wanted to
send a message I'm not going to vote for somebody
because either I'm not gonna make it unanimous, or I'm
not going to vote for him the first time of
the first time in because I just have these these
biases in my head against it. Whether it's guy getting
in unanimously or I don't vote for a guy for
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the first time, Well you got He's got to earn
it for whatever it is. And this, of all the
outcomes is sort of the best one for baseball, because
nothing last night looked anything more than embarrassing because it
was either hey, someone from a satirical website's able to
get a vote, or someone who you trust decided that
(18:37):
Echiro is not a Hall of Famer. So there's no
way that if this is what it is, someone turned
in a blank ballot. It's that he doesn't think he
or she doesn't think Echiro is a Hall of Famer.
It's just I have these beliefs that I don't think
someone should go in the first time, or I don't
think they should go in unanimously. Right, So that's at
least a little bit better. Doesn't mean they shouldn't have
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their vote rescinded because obvious in anybody's estimation, it's one
of the greatest players. It's one of the ten greatest
players I've ever seen play. I've been watching baseball for
fifty years. I've been nearly fifty years. He's i mean
two hundred hits. It's first ten years in the league,
three thousand hits. You know, if he comes over to
Major League Baseball at twenty two, he's got the all
time hit record. Like in anyone's estimation, each Row's a
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Hall of Fame or ten Gold Gloves? What else did
you want the guy to do? So at least it's
that where you can weed people like this out. Okay,
this is not up to you. I mean, if you
don't think each Row's a Hall of Famer, I can't
tell you how to vote. If you don't think he's
a Hall of Famer. Don't vote for him, but you
can't not turn it a ballot because I don't believe
anybody should be unanised. That's not your job. Your job
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is also not saying I'm not voting for somebody the
first try. No, No, that's not your job. Your job is
to vote if this person is a Hall of Famer
or not, and not put your personal beliefs of This
is how I think of voting should go. This at
least makes sense and it can be corrected. So if
this is what the outcome is, okay, we can figure it,
figure it out, fix it, and move forward.
Speaker 4 (20:00):
Yeah, the beauty of it is there's always going to
be someone who's going to be a contrarian or wants
to be the outlier, whether it's one guy, five guys,
ten guys, men and women that decide they're going to
dissent or not turn their ballot in or turn in
a blank ballot. Right for next year. We talked about
it last night. There's no obvious Hall of famers. So
(20:22):
if you only thought Sabathian Niro were the only ones
worthy this year, guess what You're turning in a blank
ballot next year, and you have to do that. Now,
I have fundamental disagreements with you know, some of the
arguments of you know, back doors and whatever else when
it comes to veterans committees, because I think, and yes,
there are allegiances that get formed, but I'm gonna trust
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guys that played the game, coach the game, manage the
game as much or more as guys who sat in
a press box eating free hot dogs two that covered
the game, right, Because when we talk about biases and
personality ease and grudges that get held, and you can't
tell me that those don't exist, right, especially when you
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go back in the day when more reporting was done
and you face the fire and maybe you didn't have
a great relationship with the star who was Hall of
Fame worthy. Maybe you got him back when it came
time for your balloting.
Speaker 3 (21:22):
And that's the thing.
Speaker 4 (21:23):
You can't tell someone you know how they should vote,
and just saying well, everybody else thinks he's a Hall
of Famer and you didn't vote for him, you're an idiot,
You're out doesn't work, kids, He goes contrary to the
whole idea of Lugg. Then you might as well just
have your blue ribbon panel of seven or eleven or
whatever that magic number is, like a BCS committee and
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just be done with it. So yeah, in the end,
whoever it is, hopefully you got a book deal out
of it, or you feel better, or maybe someone in
the family decided to have some fun and sent it
back like they were an SID voting for a top
twenty five back in the day for college football. Either way,
it's a museum and e Youiro. Yes, he'll lose some
(22:08):
money by not being able to write unanimous first ballot
Hall of Famer. I don't know how many people were
gonna ask for that inscription anyway.
Speaker 1 (22:15):
But that's the thing, is that this is what players
like Eachiro should have because there should be tiers to
the Hall of Fame. Because you can't tell me CC
Sabbathi and Billy Wagner are comparable to Ichiro Suzuki. They're not.
Speaker 4 (22:27):
But they've also got plenty of guys that are that
are in the comps that have no shot, at least
in the current current day. And we brought it up yesterday,
Kurt Schilling. You don't have to like him, no, how
is he any less of a candidate than CC Sabbati.
Speaker 1 (22:42):
But someone like Ichiro or Rivera or Jeter, who clearly
are the upper level of Hall of Famers. This is
what they should get. They should get in at one
hundred percent. And if the other you're still a Hall
of Famer, Right, you gotta have seventy five percent of
the vote. You get in seventy five eight doesn't matter.
But this is this is how you do it for
these players. If you're letting it, you can't tell me
that I Tro Suzuki, you could tell the story of
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major League Baseball without talking about Ccsabathe and Billy Wagner.
You can't tell it without Echiro. You just can't. So
what does he have other than I'm these other guys
get the same title as me. Hey, I'm getting in
at one hundred percent. Right, That's what should be for
guys like that, because that's what you can give them
to say. We understand that there's a hierarchy in the
Hall of Fame, and you're above everybody else. You guys
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you special. However many it is a few dozen are
above everybody else.
Speaker 4 (23:29):
Nah, But in the end, in the end, you're all
going into the Hall of Fame. And in twenty years,
I don't know that everybody's debating this. I think this
is for I mean, we watched his career long long
after he's gone into the ether in terms of people
remembering his playing days. Are we going to talk about
the unanimous vote? No, I mean it's a hot button
(23:52):
topic now and I agree with you, Yes, he should
be in at a different level one man's opinion. Evidently
one man or one woman decided you don't get one
hundred percent, and only Mariano Rivera, who was in the
news for all sorts of other things, still got to
figure out what's going on with that story, but allegations
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against he and his wife.
Speaker 3 (24:16):
But all of that to say.
Speaker 4 (24:20):
Is that we gotta go retro fit the Hall of
Fame now and change it. Because you also have the
idea of all, right, is there ever gonna be a
year where we're voting for ten guys other than to say,
I can right, ten were Hall of famers, We're gonna
keep them on the ballot, and look, I'm a big
fan of Billy Wagner. But based on the way this
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voting year after year went, does that make any sense?
I mean, I guess you can text you lize what
a closer's role has been versus closer by committee, versus
the opener, versus all of these different things, and you
gain perspective or different metrics. Right, two hundred wins means
a hell of a lot more now than it did
twenty years ago, when guys took the ball thirty five
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times a year, pitched into the sixth whether they were
having a good.
Speaker 3 (25:06):
Day or not.
Speaker 4 (25:07):
We don't do that anymore. So it's a different time.
But yeah, for for this one, Yeah, they may never
get ferreted out. I mean, that's that's Uh, you've got
to challenge Rob Parker to ferret that guy.
Speaker 1 (25:17):
Out exit out bout a Fresco exit swollen dome. The
Jason Smiths are with Mike carmon life at the time.
Speaker 3 (25:22):
I think we should sentence him to a life of
Mets games.
Speaker 1 (25:26):
Uh maybe it wasn't me. You never know, Maybe it
wasn't we Actually we do. It wasn't that good because
only dumb. It wasn't that dude, only Mets come only No,
it wasn't that dude. Track don't paying this on the Mets.
The Mets are nowhere near this. Okay, it's not the
Mets fault.
Speaker 3 (25:40):
Their fingers are all over it. And there's blood on
your hand.
Speaker 1 (25:43):
You call Mike Puma and you say, hey, did you
not vote for that? His real name Mike Puma? Oh yeah,
oh yeah, yeah yeah, Mike Pulah.
Speaker 3 (25:50):
I know who he is. I'm just wondering if he
took on a stage name at some point.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
Now, the most fun story of the day in the
NFL comes to us from Patrick Mahone and the Chiefs.
After watching this weekend's game where the Chiefs were the
beneficiaries of a couple of really bad calls and penalties
it probably should have been called that helped the Chiefs
win and move on in the playoffs. The overarching hey,
the Chiefs are getting calls that nobody else gets. Crowd
(26:17):
has gotten so loud that it's now being addressed. But still,
as Mahomes said earlier today, everything is clean. We're not
getting any advantages calling against us at all.
Speaker 6 (26:29):
I'm gonna learned that no matter what happens during the game,
that something's going to come out or about if you
win and you continue to win. So I don't really
pay attention to it. I mean, obviously I've been on
both sides of it as far as how I felt
the calls were made, But at the end of the day, man, those.
Speaker 2 (26:43):
Guys are doing their best to make the best call.
Speaker 6 (26:45):
Outs and then keep it for the players and making
the plays in the game, and that's when it decides
the outcome. And there was a call here or there
that people didn't agree with, but at the same time,
I think there was a lot of other plays that
really decided to outcome in that football game.
Speaker 1 (26:57):
Yeah, where here's how you know Patrick Mahomes is full
of it because the play that turned public perception on
him was what him flopping out of bounds. He knows
he gets the calls, or he wouldn't have flopped to
try to get out of bounds, right. He knows, Hey,
I get these calls, and he tries to flop on
the one play after he gets the two big calls
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that they shouldn't have gotten, and that play alone turn
Patrick Mahomes into the villain. It was so swift where
Mahomes has gone from someone with an unaccent with an
unimpeachable character that everybody loves. Is on TV all the time,
whether it's games that he's playing in or commercials that
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he does. Everybody loves Patrick Mahomes but now the Chiefs
start getting calls that people don't like. Trey Aikman calls
it out on the broadcast. Many people have now had
it that the Texans talk about it after the game,
and yeah, Mahomes gets these calls that now he gets
better calls than Tom Brady had in his prime. And
Brady would just get really upset if someone was near him.
(28:00):
He would yell an official and suddenly, hey, we're throwing
a flag. We're throwing a flag. After Brady had the
the torn Achilles like, he got flags all the time
when someone was around his legs, like he got flagged,
which was ridiculous, but he got them. Mahomes gets them
and it changes the game. Right that second one that
two Chiefs players hit helmet to helmet with each other
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and still you had to throw that flag. That's a
big deal. You're making these calls and Mahomes is the
beneficiary of them. You can't tell me that this is
something that you can just turn a blind eye to anymore.
But now everybody's had it. With that, the Bills are
now America's team right for this week because of the
number of fans you could say Mahomes had like a
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ninety five percent positive image rating that's been cut in half.
Everybody wants him to lose. They look at him as
the villain now, and yeah, I don't like Mahomes. I
don't like that flop that he did. The number of
people that have just we talked about that game this week.
My friends and I people I know that are just
foaming at the mouse and they can't believe he flopped
that way. Like he's gone from everybody loves Mahomes too.
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Now half the NFL fans want to see him lose
because they're sick of the penalty calls against Kansas City
and they're sick of the flop turn Mahomes. And now
I'm sick of seeing them on TV. I'm sick of
seeing all his commercials, sick of seeing all of this.
I want Mahomes to lose. Now he has gone from
a quarterback with an unimpeachable image to now half of
the fans hate him. And that has been an incredible
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development over the last four or five days.
Speaker 4 (29:25):
No, look, eventually you hit that point where you're in
the spotlight long enough to where it becomes hate watching.
We did it with Lebron and certainly the Warriors when
they started chucking up threes at a record rate, and
they ruined the NBA for Lebron when he was getting
to the conference finals every year. I'm tired of seeing
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him right when we would sit here to do previews
of an NBA season and go, well, your winner's coming
from one of these four teams, and I'm being generous
by putting that fourth team in because someone has to.
Speaker 3 (29:59):
Play in the conference final.
Speaker 4 (30:01):
On that side, right, So we hit that with the
Chiefs at this point where I think you were already
getting it, And if you're not a Taylor Swift fan,
perhaps you got there last year and now you have
this tipped over.
Speaker 3 (30:14):
Now. Do I think the second call was egregious?
Speaker 4 (30:18):
Sure, but I have the benefit of watching it on
television with a lot of film review to show in
slow motion how they collide over the top of him
like a You know.
Speaker 1 (30:28):
This is what you get paid for. You get paid.
Speaker 4 (30:30):
Yeah, but if you're not in a hundred percent position,
you're not necessarily seen, and.
Speaker 1 (30:35):
Don't throw the flag. If you're not sure about it,
he can't throw. They always say that if you don't
see it, you can't call. That's what they were sure,
and so you threw the flag and they did.
Speaker 2 (30:43):
See.
Speaker 4 (30:44):
Now you're starting to sound like Frostburg. He's got tele
conspiracy theory highway.
Speaker 1 (30:48):
And you can't ignore that anymore. You can't ignore the
calls they get, especially at home, that Mahomes always gets
and he knows he gets them, or he wouldn't try
to flop that way too.
Speaker 2 (30:56):
No One, you're not doing that at home.
Speaker 1 (30:58):
You're a no one tries to flop. Do quarterbacks get
to the sideline and maybe slow down a little bit
or slow going out of bounds and hope to get
that hit. Yeah, but they don't flop like Mahomes.
Speaker 4 (31:09):
And he tents up really really tight just in case
that linebacker does decide to.
Speaker 3 (31:15):
Unload upon you.
Speaker 4 (31:15):
You didn't even mention the joker laughs. I mean that
was a great over the time Philips coming in with
us about you know, they say, you live long enough
to become the villain.
Speaker 1 (31:25):
That's what's happened to Mahomes, and it's it's awesome, uh
time not to find out what's trending from someone who's
been called the Patrick Mahomes of Fox Sports Radio. An
incredible image for a long time, but over the course
of four days, people change their opinion. That's accurate. It's
Manti belagna.
Speaker 3 (31:41):
It's accurate.
Speaker 2 (31:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (31:42):
I like that when you flopped leaving the other night
and Steve de Sager got really mad at you, like
that was a thing.
Speaker 7 (31:47):
Yes, Steve Disager getting mad at me his scary time
because he hardly ever reacts to anything.
Speaker 2 (31:53):
You know, I'm always like, how are you decent?
Speaker 1 (31:55):
Awesome?
Speaker 3 (31:56):
You know you love seeing.
Speaker 1 (31:57):
He's also a lot taller than you.
Speaker 2 (31:58):
He most people are.
Speaker 6 (32:00):
What is that?
Speaker 7 (32:01):
It's nothing, but I mean like, he's a lot taller
is most people are.
Speaker 1 (32:06):
Yeah, but he's like six ' four.
Speaker 2 (32:08):
Yeah is he?
Speaker 1 (32:10):
Yes, he's a tall dude. He's like everyone looks the
same to me.
Speaker 7 (32:13):
So I was like, really is he?
Speaker 3 (32:16):
He might be?
Speaker 1 (32:17):
Guys, because you're an ear and event what are you
an even five feet? Okay?
Speaker 2 (32:22):
Okay, I like my heel.
Speaker 1 (32:24):
Side as Monty is now stretching in the updates to.
Speaker 7 (32:28):
Trying to be five to one, trying to be five
to one?
Speaker 1 (32:30):
Uh good on a stretch track like Bobby Brady.
Speaker 3 (32:33):
Yeah good, yeah, exactly. Guys.
Speaker 2 (32:35):
Clippers put put on a good fight.
Speaker 7 (32:37):
They did without anybody, you know, no, Kawhi, you know
James Harden, Norman pal Bets Zoobots. They went down to
the wire against the Celtics and then some Boston won
and one seventeen to one thirteen in overtime shake. Gilles Alexander,
though dropped a career high fifty four points on Wednesday
as a thunder outscored the Jazz one twenty three to
one fourteen. The Rockets stick down the Cavaliers one o
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nine to one oh eight, and the Timberwooves age the
Maps one fifteen to one fourteen in a losing effort.
Kyrie Irving had thirty six points, officially surpassing eighteen thousand
career points. The Suns, they crushed the Nets one away
to eighty four. The Pistons top the Hawks one fourteen
to one oh four, and the Grizzlies be the Hornets
one thirty two to one twenty. There was supposed to
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be a Bucks Pelicans game that was postponed due to
the winter storm that's happening in the New Orleans area.
Jimmy Butler has been suspended two games by the Miami
Heat for missing eighteen flight on Wednesday, so he's gonna
miss Thursday's game In Milwaukee and Saturday's game in Brooklyn.
In college hoops, number seven Houston has won eleven in
(33:40):
a row after crushing Utah seventy to thirty six and
number thirteen Texas A and m Edge number sixteen Ole miss.
Speaker 1 (33:47):
Sixty three to sixty two.
Speaker 7 (33:49):
On the ice, the Jets edged the Avalanche three to
two in overtime, and the Blue Jackets outscored the Maple
Leaves five to one. And in the NFL, the Jets
have a new coach and it's Detroit Linon defensive coordinator
Aaron Glenn. ESPN reports that it's a five year deal,
while the Bengals are hiring Notre Dame defensive coordinator Al
Golden as their new defensive coordinator.
Speaker 1 (34:11):
Back to you guys, thank you. Yes, now, I know
we just talked about a few minutes ago, because I said,
let me look this up and see if I could
find it. Hey person must have turned in a blank
ballot for for ech Ro Suzuki, right, That's why maybe
it's whatever it is they put out there. Let me
look and see if I could find that out. So
I went to Baseball Writer Association America website and I
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read the latest recap they had on the on the
Hall of Fame and it says in the recap there
were no blank ballots submitted.
Speaker 3 (34:44):
That's much more fun.
Speaker 1 (34:45):
So now that's much better. It's back to where it was. Where. Boy,
this is really embarrassing for Major League Baseball.
Speaker 4 (34:52):
So again it's either a parody account or someone get
decided they were voting for somebody else, I'll tell you
and leaving Oh Suzuki off.
Speaker 2 (35:04):
That's great.
Speaker 1 (35:05):
Thanks thanks to Nate for helping with that a little
bit right there. Yeah, all the way to the end
right there, you had no blank bellots Admitte. Coming up next,
we'll break down the game of the Night in the
NBA and tell you if a trade is really close
for the team that lost. That's next Jason and Mike Fox.
Speaker 2 (35:23):
Look, I'm gonna do things my way and be sure
to catch live editions of The Jason Smith Show with
Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven pm Pacific, Fox.
Speaker 1 (35:34):
Sports Radio The Jason Smith Show with My best friend
Mike Harmon live Fromthtirack dot Com Studios. Game of the
Night in the NBA, the Golden State Warriors looked like
they were gonna get a big feel good win they
needed one, except that didn't happen. Steve Kerr absolutely melts
(35:54):
down at the officials late in the third quarter a
game the Warriors were winning, the Kings go on big run.
They go on a big run late and they outlast
the Warriors one twenty three to one seventeen. The Warriors
now fall under five hundred again at twenty one and
twenty two, and now talk is going to turn to
Jimmy Butler, who is getting suspended again by the Miami
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Heat for missing the plane to the game. Suspended for
the next two games tomorrow and Friday or Saturday because
he missed the plane. Now he's gonna be dealt and
pat Riley, I'm sorry if you need an intervention right now,
I'm gonna tell you. I know this is not the
way it should be done. I know you don't want
to lose a you know, a man contest. But players
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and stars in the NBA have the power. This is
how it works. This is how you have to trade them.
We've seen this work. We've seen players quit, not play,
want to get out, and eventually they get traded because
they're powerful. I'm sorry, it's not the NBA. You left
the NBA. You want, but this is how you go
and let me let me just warn against this because
the Warriors have been a big conversation the last couple
(36:59):
of weeks about what should we do, and Steph Curry says,
I want to improve, I want to get better, but
not at the expense of the future. And I agree,
don't trade for Jimmy Butler. You know he's got the
Warriors on his list of preferred destinations. And now Butler
clearly will be traded. He is he has absolutely played
his last game for the Heat. In fact, we talked
about it last night. The Warriors need to lean in
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the other direction, and eventually, maybe it's after this eight
game home stand. Steph Curry's got to realize I need
to go somewhere else if I'm gonna win. And if
I'm a GM, I'm not pat Riley calling the Warriors
about about Jimmy Butler. I'm another team calling the Warriors
about Steph Curry. What do you need for him? What
do you need from at this point? Because we think
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we can win, and it would be sending Steph off
with a chance to win because it's not happening in
Golden States. Just not anymore. They're going in the wrong direction.
And Steph is still a really terrific player. And with
the right team, boy, I'll tell you what, you can
clinch a team potentially winning the NBA Championship. There's so
many teams he can go to where you could just
plug him right in and wow, we're gonna blow the
(38:03):
doors off of everybody. But I would make that call.
And if you're Steph Curry, you have to think about
maybe for the next year and a half. I live
in you know, in San Francisco part time, and I
go play someplace else because I want to win a
title again. And it's not happening here. We're not signing
free agents, we're not getting any we're not getting lucky
in the draft. It's just not it. We had a
(38:23):
great run, but it's over. What's more important being a
one team superstar for the whole career or do you
want to give away the last five or seven years
of your prime in the last few years of your
career by playing for a team that's not gonna win.
You want to win. I know he wants to win.
I saw him single handedly win the gold medal for
the United States. He should have gotten all the gold medals.
This is where tough conversations have to happen. If you're
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another team, you can start it going. If you're Steph Curry,
clearly you have to be thinking about that at this point.
Speaker 3 (38:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (38:50):
The Butler side of things real quick is at some
point you've got such a distressed property, you're doing damage
to what you're doing in turn right that no matter
what you thought the value was of Jimmy Butler, that's deteriorated.
And now you have to go back into the marketplace
and as they say, get what you get. With the
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Steph Curry side of things, it's that hard conversation he
Steve Kerr front office and be like how much you
really want to win because it's not in the cards here,
all right. We got Draymond Green apologizing to Jordan poole Man,
we got cats and dogs living in harmony, all of
these kind of crazy things. But for Steph Curry, yeah
he could he go play a huge role for another
(39:34):
three four years probably right. They introduced a new baby
this last year. Maybe he doesn't want to uproot and
change locals. Maybe do that you know traveling thing you're
on the road a toun during the season anyway. But yeah,
he's just got to decide does he want to be
what's more important to him? Warrior for life? See how
(39:55):
I feel like I'm going down old movies that we
watch for life, Worry for life, worry for you want
to find another title because part of me thinks he's
the type of guy that would say, I don't want
to chase the title somewhere else.
Speaker 1 (40:12):
Then if you don't want to win, he's got it's
not gonna be chasing a title. It's going to be. Hey,
everybody's on the same page. The Warriors are helping me go.
I'm getting to this team. I'm always a Warrior. He
can always go back in finisher and add on, always
go back and finish. You're still Steph.
Speaker 4 (40:26):
No, now you're gonna get the derision that Kevin Durant
did when he joined you.
Speaker 1 (40:30):
You're still Steph Curry. You can still win and you
if you want to. It's what has to happen. Quite honestly,
it's what has.
Speaker 4 (40:35):
To I'd rather see him stay there and then he
and Jason Tatum hug and while Steve Kerr looks on,
go what are they talking.
Speaker 1 (40:42):
About exit out, about a Fresca exit swelling down The
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Speaker 3 (00:31):
It's still going.
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introduce you to a little song called Inagata Davida. Wait
till that happens? Yeah, Stairway to Heaven, the long version.
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Right now, Celtics Clippers headed to overtime, the Clippers playing
with absolutely nobody. Both Mike Harmon's daughters are playing in
this game for the Clippers. They are both double figures.
They could be getting a triple double, and still the
Clippers tied with the Celtics one o three, one oh three.
Matty Harmon eighteen points, ten rebounds, Eleanor twenty points, twelve rebounds,
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six blocks. Big night for both of them.
Speaker 4 (01:24):
Yeah, I like stretching truth and telling stories here on
the radio with you. Have you ever seen Eleanor shooting basketball, Matt,
He's got.
Speaker 5 (01:37):
Some form, okay, but yeah, like Pig Miller, I don't
know when the last time I got her to shoot
a basketball was.
Speaker 4 (01:49):
To be honest with you, man, Kevin Porter, remember him? Yeah,
he playing heavy minutes tonight. Porter, coffee man, Bomba Jones.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
That is your Clippers.
Speaker 4 (01:58):
Sorry, this goes back to why you were having such
a u no Kawhi, the consternation on Tylu's face when
you saw him at lunch.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
No j Now, Tyler is gonna eat at that place
if they win this game, He's gonnat that place every
day for the next week. He's got that's absolutely going.
Speaker 4 (02:16):
He got this game minutes from four people from your bench,
Bones Island, Jordan Miller, Kobe Brown, and Cam Christy with
six minutes.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
This is I mean, this is something. I mean, ty really, Tyler,
you can't you can't tempt fate. You win this game,
you have to eat it. You have to eat where
you ate lunch today until you lose every day you
gotta eat lunch there. Yeah, it's a little soul searching
kind of day for the Celtics sperience. Man.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
So one man, it's back to backs, Jason.
Speaker 4 (02:44):
So what time does that make you have to go
out there to the restaurant and be in the bushes.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
Oh it's like twelve or twelve thirty MI stakeout right?
Speaker 3 (02:52):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (02:52):
Yeah, I like twelve twelve thirty. Yeah, sure, I mean
maybe we got his table. I don't even know.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
It was a good grass.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
He walked right by me today, right, I said, Tyler
is here, all.
Speaker 4 (02:59):
Right, But it's not like you should be tired. You
had a forty point blowout of Golden State. Oh so
you're saying I shouldn't be done, you'd be tired.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
No, I wasn't tired.
Speaker 4 (03:07):
I don't know what you ate till ten I woke up.
It's just like you were having an issue and you
were having a sleepless night.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (03:14):
Maybe Tyloo vexed you and it took sap some of
your energy. I don't know that.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
I woke up today exciting because we got Aaron Glenn.
It was great. Now Hey, speaking of Aaron Glenn, Hey,
reasons why I love my wife, like reason number seven,
four hundred and seventy six. So when the Jets got
Aaron Glenn today, I said, oh, wow, ba, what is it.
I said, Ah, Jets got Aaron Glen's a Jets next
head coach. He goes, oh, he returned the kickoff for
a touchdown the first Jets game you brought me to.
(03:40):
And I said, this is why we're married. This is
why you've been together for thirty years. So she remembered
the first Jets game we ever went to and we lost, actually,
but it doesn't matter. He returned a kickoff for a
touchdowne hundred yards were touches. She always remembered that. It
was like, that's really cool.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
Did she type that out on Twitter or no?
Speaker 1 (03:59):
I was no. I said, oh, I can't believe remember
that and I put that out on Twitter's really now
the other big story from her first Jets game. Yeah,
So I said to her, going to this is the
meatal Lands. This is ninety seven. We had gone back
east for my best friend's wedding and not to see
my best friend's wedding with Julie Roberts. My best friend
got married, went back for the and then the next
day we're like, hey, let's go to the Jets game.
So we go to the Jets game and I said,
(04:20):
She says, oh, I've never been to the Jets, you
know game. Like I said, I said, trust me, you're
gonna walk in and feel like you're on mars. I said,
remember the canteena scene from Star Wars. That's just like
going to a Jets game. And she thought, ha ha,
I was kidding. We go in. She says, I'm gonna
go to the bathroo before we get to our seats. Okay, great,
I said, I'm gonna get in line, get it, get
a drink or something, get popcorn. Come back out and
(04:41):
I'm waiting for it. She comes out. She goes, oh
my god, you weren't kidding. I go, what what what
do you mean? I'm in the bathroom and it's just
me another woman in the stall because like the national
anthem's getting ready to start playing, everybody's in their seats.
I'm like, okay, so you're late, we'll get there a
little like, we'll get there. So she just says, I'm
going to stall and this other woman's in the stall
next to me, and this guy starts banging on the door, going, honey,
come on, they're gonna play the national anthem. Let's go,
(05:02):
and I could hear. Next he goes, I'll be him in.
I'll be in good America, be there in a minute. Okay,
another few seconds go by. He bangs on the door again,
opens it and yells, come on, come on, you're almost ready,
almost ready. And she goes, just give me a minute,
and the door closes and the woman goes ish and
and Pam lasts. So I say to her, I said, wow,
pretty impatient. She goes, oh, yeah, well, you know the
game's gonna start soon. And then all of a sudden,
(05:23):
the door opens. You know, they hear the door open
like somebody else is coming in, And all of a sudden,
up to the stall, you hear the guy go where
are you? And he's knocking on both doors where where
Pam is? And she goes, get out of here. You
can't walk in the women's room.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
Get out of here.
Speaker 4 (05:38):
He goes, they're playing the national anthem. We're gonna miss it.
She goes get out of here like she was Edith Bunker.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
All of a sudden, she goes get out, and Pam
was like I just gotta get out, and she goes.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
I got up.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
I looked out to make sure he wasn't still in
the women's room, and I came right out to you
and I said, yes, I'll protect you for the rest
of your life.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
See it.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
I told you, this is what Jets games are liked.
Just walked into the bathroom, right up to the stall,
knocking on the door. Hey, let's go to game starting.
Let's go that and Aaron Glenn.
Speaker 4 (06:05):
She remembered, that's a memorable yeah, first event.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
Yeah, yeah, it is.
Speaker 4 (06:11):
No the Devil's into details. Yeah, my memory of anything
like that going yeah, yeah, yeah. Know for many years
of these late night I think I want to say
Jay Reamers caught a touchdown.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
She's like, oh, Michigan. I'm like, we don't celebrate the
Bill's touchdown. Yeah, maybe you have two touchdowns. We don't
celebrate that. Here we're losing. I don't care.
Speaker 4 (06:30):
He's not at Michigan anymore. This is killing us here.
I'm pretty sure he's Why would you not celebrate that?
Speaker 1 (06:37):
He was a tight end at Michigan. And I was like,
we're not celebrating this.
Speaker 6 (06:40):
Still.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
Remember the Jason Smith Show with did.
Speaker 3 (06:43):
He really, I don't know. I'm trying to bring it
up now.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
Jason Smith, Mike Harmon Live the Tyrock dot Com Studios. Now,
I'm glad we had this day because there's a conversation
that I need to have with my wife, my wife's family,
and now with everyone. Uh, it's now official. The Lions
have lost both their coordinators, Ben Johnson to the Bears
and Aaron Glenn getting the head coaching job with the Jets. Today,
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you and I are getting conspiring and teaming up to
ruin the Lions take him down. This is the conversation
we have to have. The super Bowl window for the
Lions is shut this version of the team. The window
is closed for them to get to the super Bowl.
You lose both coordinators, there's going to be a lot
(07:30):
of change. Everybody likes to do things differently. That's a
really big loss to lose both of these guys, especially
when Ben Johnson is getting all kinds of credit for
this offense, because you know it's not Dan Campbell, right,
Aaron Glenn keeping the defense going. Dan Campbell is a
culture guy, So losing both of them is a huge,
huge blow. You know things are going to be different
this year because you need different You need different players
(07:53):
because what you have right now is not good enough.
It's incredibly embarrassing that you go fourteen and two, show
you the best team in the NFL and you lose
your first home playoff game. Not that we made it
to the NFC Championship and a team with a great
defense came in and shut us down, and we had
a really tough day and the Niners defense just made
life for Jared Goff miserable and we lost seventeen sixteen.
(08:14):
You got boat raced by the Commanders right and you
couldn't stop the Commanders offensively, and you threw up all
over yourselves on offense, and Jared Goff was terrible and
you had a bad play call for a trick play.
If you're not gonna get to the super Bowl when
you have home field advantage and you lose your first
playoff game, when are you gonna go? There needs to
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be big change now. The good news for the Lions
is they have a lot of money to spend, But
the bad news is you need a lot because you
went through a lot of injuries. Clearly you don't have
the right personnel. There's going to be change so now
you're talking about personnel change, big personnel change, two new coordinators,
and the biggest thing is the mental toll that the
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last two years are gonna take on this team going
into next year. Because Dan Campbell has pledged grit and
hard work, and you can do that and that works
as long as people see results. Right, you can pledge that,
but you gotta see results. Dan Campbell comes in, No
one's expecting anything. Hey, they have a little bit of talent.
They win a couple of games. You're not bad. Right
(09:17):
end of the year. Three years ago, Oh, that had
a big win over the Packers and the whole playoff
was at stake. Oh oh the Lions, Hey, maybe they're
not bad. Then last year, a huge run to the
NFC Championship Game, and what happens. They lose because they
can't convert fourth downs. And you really can say this
was on us. We should have beaten the Niners and
have gotten the Super Bowl. We are fired up for
next season. They come in, they blow the doors off
(09:38):
of everybody. They're fourteen and two. Hey we're gonna get
to the Super Bowl. Who was in our way? We
got to worry about the Eagles in the NFC Championship
game most likely, and this is where you lose. And
there's all kinds of questions because the offense was terrible,
the defense was terrible. How can you keep selling grit
and hard work when you're not seeing that When the
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grit and the hard work and determination, all of it,
that message didn't get you past the commanders. All right,
this is a team that was starting over and was
lucky if they won six games this year after the draft,
Hey we're not really getting anybody. Hey, Jayden Daniels, maybe
takes a while. Look at where they are. This is
the mental hill you have to come back from for
next year, and that's a really difficult thing. Just look
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at the forty nine ers who thought, hey, all right,
we're coming back this year and we sign all our guys,
we're good. Well what happened. It wasn't quite the same.
And they're not nearly having the turnover that the Lions have.
So this Super Bowl window for the Lions is shut.
If you didn't get there this year with that, when
are you gonna win? And now you add and all
the change it's gonna happen. Good luck, it's gonna get
worse for the Lions before it gets better, because a
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good thing is at least a lot of their young players,
a lot of their great their best players are all
very young. But it's gonna be a step back next
year before they take a step forward.
Speaker 4 (10:49):
Yeah, I've got thirty one free agents that they need
to look at. And you've got your infrastructure clearly with
what Dan Campbell's vision is. But and look off, that's
been defensive line. You've got bodies. You're gonna come back defensively.
In theory, the injury gods move on somewhere else. They
hit the forty nine ers pretty well too, but they're
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a much older team, right. You miss Fred Warner for
a chunk of the squad year. Trent Williams hit it
out of the lineup family tragedy as well. Now he's older,
may walk away. So the forty nine ers still have
a lot of other questions McCaffrey coming off another huge injury,
even if they've got decent returns from the backups. There,
you look at where the Lions are. I equated a
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little bit to what we saw with the twenty twenty
three Eagles of great personnel, some injuries in places where
you needed to shore up your roster. But you lost
your coordinators, right, you lost some of the guidance. Stikeen
goes to to Indianapolis, and while you could decide what
(11:53):
you like about that, they drafted by the.
Speaker 3 (11:55):
Way they drafted Anthony Richardson.
Speaker 4 (11:57):
They said, hey, you played twelve games or fifteen games
are seventeen games in college. You're gonna come and be
a hero. Sometimes you get a really good highlight reel.
Sometimes you get a really good highlight reel for the defense.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
Sometimes you win, sometimes you don't win. That's about what
it is.
Speaker 4 (12:14):
But you lose both your coordinators, and you have a
down year, you have a reset year, and you had
but everybody would still have looked at your roster going
into twenty twenty three saying it's still one of the
top rosters. And I think we'll do the same thing
with the Lions overall, depending on how much they lose
to free agency, because there will be losses, there's no
(12:34):
question about it. But you know, when you look at
aman Ross Saint Brown, when you look at Jamiir Gibbs,
you look at Jamison Williams, as long as he's not
throwing the ball, you've got the base And the other
question is who's gonna come in and relate to Jared
Goff to make sure you don't have a repeat of
his meltdown. Great year overall, but the bad ten and
(13:00):
sees the pushing u the envelope when you could least
afford it, when you're at a track meet and you
decided to take the ball out of his hands and
give it to Jameson Williams. But all of that to say,
you know, is that person on staff because the latest
report is Freely's not leaving to go to Chicago. Does
that mean he's going somewhere else? Do you have someone
else internally that already has that relationship with golf or
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do you have to start that over because that's gonna
be a huge detriment if you do.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
That's another hill to climb. Exit out about a Fresco
exit swollen down the Jason smithsher with Mike Carmen. It
pains me to say it, but that window is shut
if and it's all your fault, my fault, it's all
would Ben Johnson seels good, doesn't it. No? I got
them as far as I could. Eventually somebody else needs
to do.
Speaker 3 (13:43):
No, you took him down last year and then you
killed off knuckles.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
Ben Johnson thought, after last year, I want to stay.
There's unfinished work now. Granted he would be just as
hot a head coaching candidate next year if he wanted to.
All the openings this year were terrible, but this year
he decides to go to the Bears. Could have had
a better opening. Last year, Atlant was open, different places
were open. We'd had a better stop. But he left now,
Like is he leaving now because I want to be
a head coach? Who is leaving now? Because we've gone
(14:08):
as far as we can.
Speaker 4 (14:09):
Some reports that there might have been some friction with
Dan Campbell. I'm telling you it's which I would not doubt.
The window was closed. Even though with the fault, you
can't go back to Detroit. I got them as far
as I could. It is not on me. Somebody else has.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
To pick up what they're going to serve you at Whitecastle.
Speaker 3 (14:25):
I'll talk a knuckle sandwich.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
I'll just got.
Speaker 3 (14:30):
You.
Speaker 4 (14:30):
Need to clip off the entire segment because not only
does he profess his love for his wife, he also
made sure to put on un clluloid that he can
never go back to Detroit.
Speaker 1 (14:40):
Knuckles Sandwich is coming up next way, do we tell
you what Patrick Mahomes had to say today about the
chiefs getting calls from officials. That's next right here. Jason
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Speaker 1 (16:00):
Ye, American Pie still isn't going. Oh, I didn't want
to start it again. It finally ended Fox Sports Radio
The Jason Smith Show with my best friend Mike Harmon
Hobo And we'll get to the Patrick Mahomes story coming
up in a second. But because I did research on this,
I feel like I want to go. I want I
want to pay this off here.
Speaker 3 (16:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
So last night, look, the big drama of the day was,
you know, MLB Hall of Fame was announced. Each hero
gets in, of course, and he is one vote short
of getting in unanimously. And you know I told you
the first thing it was text Rob Parker, Dude, you
voted for him, right? Yeah? No, no, he said, no,
No I did, I did. I did. But there's been
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such a big desire over the course last twenty four
hours to know who this person is. You had you
had voter saying show your face, admit yourself, you're an idiot,
you're this, you're that.
Speaker 3 (16:54):
They all need a hug.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
And so the thing is that you know because Rob
Parker is a Hall of Fame voter. And I said,
all right, we have had this story last night. I
talked to him before the show tonight and I said,
listen the story yesterday that that person that says they
didn't vote for him, but it was looked like they
were with a satirical website. But so it didn't seem
like it was true. I said, what do you think
he goes and this is this is not Rob Parker
saying he knows. But he said, you know what, this
(17:16):
is probably someone who turned in a blank ballot, that
turned it in and didn't vote for anybody, because you
could do that, right. I don't think anybody's worthy of
the Hall of Fame and someone turned in a blank ballot.
And I said, that completely makes sense, and it probably is.
You know why we you know, we didn't hear from
this person because I'm sure whoever it was didn't think
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they would get this kind of reaction, Oh yeah, each
rose in ninety six percent. That's great, not thinking that,
Oh wow, I'm gonna be the only one that didn't
vote for him. So this is this makes sense as
to what voting for the Hall of Fame is like
and how people take this vote and they hijacket because
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this is this is someone who clearly thought wanted to
send a message I'm not going to vote for somebody
because either I'm not gonna make it unanimous, or I'm
not going to vote for him the first time of
the first time in because I just have these these
biases in my head against it. Whether it's guy getting
in unanimously or I don't vote for a guy for
(18:17):
the first time, Well you got He's got to earn
it for whatever it is. And this, of all the
outcomes is sort of the best one for baseball, because
nothing last night looked anything more than embarrassing because it
was either hey, someone from a satirical website's able to
get a vote, or someone who you trust decided that
(18:37):
Echiro is not a Hall of Famer. So there's no
way that if this is what it is, someone turned
in a blank ballot. It's that he doesn't think he
or she doesn't think Echiro is a Hall of Famer.
It's just I have these beliefs that I don't think
someone should go in the first time, or I don't
think they should go in unanimously. Right, So that's at
least a little bit better. Doesn't mean they shouldn't have
(18:58):
their vote rescinded because obvious in anybody's estimation, it's one
of the greatest players. It's one of the ten greatest
players I've ever seen play. I've been watching baseball for
fifty years. I've been nearly fifty years. He's i mean
two hundred hits. It's first ten years in the league,
three thousand hits. You know, if he comes over to
Major League Baseball at twenty two, he's got the all
time hit record. Like in anyone's estimation, each Row's a
(19:19):
Hall of Fame or ten Gold Gloves? What else did
you want the guy to do? So at least it's
that where you can weed people like this out. Okay,
this is not up to you. I mean, if you
don't think each Row's a Hall of Famer, I can't
tell you how to vote. If you don't think he's
a Hall of Famer. Don't vote for him, but you
can't not turn it a ballot because I don't believe
anybody should be unanised. That's not your job. Your job
(19:41):
is also not saying I'm not voting for somebody the
first try. No, No, that's not your job. Your job is
to vote if this person is a Hall of Famer
or not, and not put your personal beliefs of This
is how I think of voting should go. This at
least makes sense and it can be corrected. So if
this is what the outcome is, okay, we can figure it,
figure it out, fix it, and move forward.
Speaker 4 (20:00):
Yeah, the beauty of it is there's always going to
be someone who's going to be a contrarian or wants
to be the outlier, whether it's one guy, five guys,
ten guys, men and women that decide they're going to
dissent or not turn their ballot in or turn in
a blank ballot. Right for next year. We talked about
it last night. There's no obvious Hall of famers. So
(20:22):
if you only thought Sabathian Niro were the only ones
worthy this year, guess what You're turning in a blank
ballot next year, and you have to do that. Now,
I have fundamental disagreements with you know, some of the
arguments of you know, back doors and whatever else when
it comes to veterans committees, because I think, and yes,
there are allegiances that get formed, but I'm gonna trust
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guys that played the game, coach the game, manage the
game as much or more as guys who sat in
a press box eating free hot dogs two that covered
the game, right, Because when we talk about biases and
personality ease and grudges that get held, and you can't
tell me that those don't exist, right, especially when you
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go back in the day when more reporting was done
and you face the fire and maybe you didn't have
a great relationship with the star who was Hall of
Fame worthy. Maybe you got him back when it came
time for your balloting.
Speaker 3 (21:22):
And that's the thing.
Speaker 4 (21:23):
You can't tell someone you know how they should vote,
and just saying well, everybody else thinks he's a Hall
of Famer and you didn't vote for him, you're an idiot,
You're out doesn't work, kids, He goes contrary to the
whole idea of Lugg. Then you might as well just
have your blue ribbon panel of seven or eleven or
whatever that magic number is, like a BCS committee and
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just be done with it. So yeah, in the end,
whoever it is, hopefully you got a book deal out
of it, or you feel better, or maybe someone in
the family decided to have some fun and sent it
back like they were an SID voting for a top
twenty five back in the day for college football. Either way,
it's a museum and e Youiro. Yes, he'll lose some
(22:08):
money by not being able to write unanimous first ballot
Hall of Famer. I don't know how many people were
gonna ask for that inscription anyway.
Speaker 1 (22:15):
But that's the thing, is that this is what players
like Eachiro should have because there should be tiers to
the Hall of Fame. Because you can't tell me CC
Sabbathi and Billy Wagner are comparable to Ichiro Suzuki. They're not.
Speaker 4 (22:27):
But they've also got plenty of guys that are that
are in the comps that have no shot, at least
in the current current day. And we brought it up yesterday,
Kurt Schilling. You don't have to like him, no, how
is he any less of a candidate than CC Sabbati.
Speaker 1 (22:42):
But someone like Ichiro or Rivera or Jeter, who clearly
are the upper level of Hall of Famers. This is
what they should get. They should get in at one
hundred percent. And if the other you're still a Hall
of Famer, Right, you gotta have seventy five percent of
the vote. You get in seventy five eight doesn't matter.
But this is this is how you do it for
these players. If you're letting it, you can't tell me
that I Tro Suzuki, you could tell the story of
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major League Baseball without talking about Ccsabathe and Billy Wagner.
You can't tell it without Echiro. You just can't. So
what does he have other than I'm these other guys
get the same title as me. Hey, I'm getting in
at one hundred percent. Right, That's what should be for
guys like that, because that's what you can give them
to say. We understand that there's a hierarchy in the
Hall of Fame, and you're above everybody else. You guys
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you special. However many it is a few dozen are
above everybody else.
Speaker 4 (23:29):
Nah, But in the end, in the end, you're all
going into the Hall of Fame. And in twenty years,
I don't know that everybody's debating this. I think this
is for I mean, we watched his career long long
after he's gone into the ether in terms of people
remembering his playing days. Are we going to talk about
the unanimous vote? No, I mean it's a hot button
(23:52):
topic now and I agree with you, Yes, he should
be in at a different level one man's opinion. Evidently
one man or one woman decided you don't get one
hundred percent, and only Mariano Rivera, who was in the
news for all sorts of other things, still got to
figure out what's going on with that story, but allegations
(24:15):
against he and his wife.
Speaker 3 (24:16):
But all of that to say.
Speaker 4 (24:20):
Is that we gotta go retro fit the Hall of
Fame now and change it. Because you also have the
idea of all, right, is there ever gonna be a
year where we're voting for ten guys other than to say,
I can right, ten were Hall of famers, We're gonna
keep them on the ballot, and look, I'm a big
fan of Billy Wagner. But based on the way this
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voting year after year went, does that make any sense?
I mean, I guess you can text you lize what
a closer's role has been versus closer by committee, versus
the opener, versus all of these different things, and you
gain perspective or different metrics. Right, two hundred wins means
a hell of a lot more now than it did
twenty years ago, when guys took the ball thirty five
(25:02):
times a year, pitched into the sixth whether they were
having a good.
Speaker 3 (25:06):
Day or not.
Speaker 4 (25:07):
We don't do that anymore. So it's a different time.
But yeah, for for this one, Yeah, they may never
get ferreted out. I mean, that's that's Uh, you've got
to challenge Rob Parker to ferret that guy.
Speaker 1 (25:17):
Out exit out bout a Fresco exit swollen dome. The
Jason Smiths are with Mike carmon life at the time.
Speaker 3 (25:22):
I think we should sentence him to a life of
Mets games.
Speaker 1 (25:26):
Uh maybe it wasn't me. You never know, Maybe it
wasn't we Actually we do. It wasn't that good because
only dumb. It wasn't that dude, only Mets come only No,
it wasn't that dude. Track don't paying this on the Mets.
The Mets are nowhere near this. Okay, it's not the
Mets fault.
Speaker 3 (25:40):
Their fingers are all over it. And there's blood on
your hand.
Speaker 1 (25:43):
You call Mike Puma and you say, hey, did you
not vote for that? His real name Mike Puma? Oh yeah,
oh yeah, yeah yeah, Mike Pulah.
Speaker 3 (25:50):
I know who he is. I'm just wondering if he
took on a stage name at some point.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
Now, the most fun story of the day in the
NFL comes to us from Patrick Mahone and the Chiefs.
After watching this weekend's game where the Chiefs were the
beneficiaries of a couple of really bad calls and penalties
it probably should have been called that helped the Chiefs
win and move on in the playoffs. The overarching hey,
the Chiefs are getting calls that nobody else gets. Crowd
(26:17):
has gotten so loud that it's now being addressed. But still,
as Mahomes said earlier today, everything is clean. We're not
getting any advantages calling against us at all.
Speaker 6 (26:29):
I'm gonna learned that no matter what happens during the game,
that something's going to come out or about if you
win and you continue to win. So I don't really
pay attention to it. I mean, obviously I've been on
both sides of it as far as how I felt
the calls were made, But at the end of the day, man, those.
Speaker 2 (26:43):
Guys are doing their best to make the best call.
Speaker 6 (26:45):
Outs and then keep it for the players and making
the plays in the game, and that's when it decides
the outcome. And there was a call here or there
that people didn't agree with, but at the same time,
I think there was a lot of other plays that
really decided to outcome in that football game.
Speaker 1 (26:57):
Yeah, where here's how you know Patrick Mahomes is full
of it because the play that turned public perception on
him was what him flopping out of bounds. He knows
he gets the calls, or he wouldn't have flopped to
try to get out of bounds, right. He knows, Hey,
I get these calls, and he tries to flop on
the one play after he gets the two big calls
(27:17):
that they shouldn't have gotten, and that play alone turn
Patrick Mahomes into the villain. It was so swift where
Mahomes has gone from someone with an unaccent with an
unimpeachable character that everybody loves. Is on TV all the time,
whether it's games that he's playing in or commercials that
(27:39):
he does. Everybody loves Patrick Mahomes but now the Chiefs
start getting calls that people don't like. Trey Aikman calls
it out on the broadcast. Many people have now had
it that the Texans talk about it after the game,
and yeah, Mahomes gets these calls that now he gets
better calls than Tom Brady had in his prime. And
Brady would just get really upset if someone was near him.
(28:00):
He would yell an official and suddenly, hey, we're throwing
a flag. We're throwing a flag. After Brady had the
the torn Achilles like, he got flags all the time
when someone was around his legs, like he got flagged,
which was ridiculous, but he got them. Mahomes gets them
and it changes the game. Right that second one that
two Chiefs players hit helmet to helmet with each other
(28:20):
and still you had to throw that flag. That's a
big deal. You're making these calls and Mahomes is the
beneficiary of them. You can't tell me that this is
something that you can just turn a blind eye to anymore.
But now everybody's had it. With that, the Bills are
now America's team right for this week because of the
number of fans you could say Mahomes had like a
(28:40):
ninety five percent positive image rating that's been cut in half.
Everybody wants him to lose. They look at him as
the villain now, and yeah, I don't like Mahomes. I
don't like that flop that he did. The number of
people that have just we talked about that game this week.
My friends and I people I know that are just
foaming at the mouse and they can't believe he flopped
that way. Like he's gone from everybody loves Mahomes too.
(29:02):
Now half the NFL fans want to see him lose
because they're sick of the penalty calls against Kansas City
and they're sick of the flop turn Mahomes. And now
I'm sick of seeing them on TV. I'm sick of
seeing all his commercials, sick of seeing all of this.
I want Mahomes to lose. Now he has gone from
a quarterback with an unimpeachable image to now half of
the fans hate him. And that has been an incredible
(29:23):
development over the last four or five days.
Speaker 4 (29:25):
No, look, eventually you hit that point where you're in
the spotlight long enough to where it becomes hate watching.
We did it with Lebron and certainly the Warriors when
they started chucking up threes at a record rate, and
they ruined the NBA for Lebron when he was getting
to the conference finals every year. I'm tired of seeing
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him right when we would sit here to do previews
of an NBA season and go, well, your winner's coming
from one of these four teams, and I'm being generous
by putting that fourth team in because someone has to.
Speaker 3 (29:59):
Play in the conference final.
Speaker 4 (30:01):
On that side, right, So we hit that with the
Chiefs at this point where I think you were already
getting it, And if you're not a Taylor Swift fan,
perhaps you got there last year and now you have
this tipped over.
Speaker 3 (30:14):
Now. Do I think the second call was egregious?
Speaker 4 (30:18):
Sure, but I have the benefit of watching it on
television with a lot of film review to show in
slow motion how they collide over the top of him
like a You know.
Speaker 1 (30:28):
This is what you get paid for. You get paid.
Speaker 4 (30:30):
Yeah, but if you're not in a hundred percent position,
you're not necessarily seen, and.
Speaker 1 (30:35):
Don't throw the flag. If you're not sure about it,
he can't throw. They always say that if you don't
see it, you can't call. That's what they were sure,
and so you threw the flag and they did.
Speaker 2 (30:43):
See.
Speaker 4 (30:44):
Now you're starting to sound like Frostburg. He's got tele
conspiracy theory highway.
Speaker 1 (30:48):
And you can't ignore that anymore. You can't ignore the
calls they get, especially at home, that Mahomes always gets
and he knows he gets them, or he wouldn't try
to flop that way too.
Speaker 2 (30:56):
No One, you're not doing that at home.
Speaker 1 (30:58):
You're a no one tries to flop. Do quarterbacks get
to the sideline and maybe slow down a little bit
or slow going out of bounds and hope to get
that hit. Yeah, but they don't flop like Mahomes.
Speaker 4 (31:09):
And he tents up really really tight just in case
that linebacker does decide to.
Speaker 3 (31:15):
Unload upon you.
Speaker 4 (31:15):
You didn't even mention the joker laughs. I mean that
was a great over the time Philips coming in with
us about you know, they say, you live long enough
to become the villain.
Speaker 1 (31:25):
That's what's happened to Mahomes, and it's it's awesome, uh
time not to find out what's trending from someone who's
been called the Patrick Mahomes of Fox Sports Radio. An
incredible image for a long time, but over the course
of four days, people change their opinion. That's accurate. It's
Manti belagna.
Speaker 3 (31:41):
It's accurate.
Speaker 2 (31:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (31:42):
I like that when you flopped leaving the other night
and Steve de Sager got really mad at you, like
that was a thing.
Speaker 7 (31:47):
Yes, Steve Disager getting mad at me his scary time
because he hardly ever reacts to anything.
Speaker 2 (31:53):
You know, I'm always like, how are you decent?
Speaker 1 (31:55):
Awesome?
Speaker 3 (31:56):
You know you love seeing.
Speaker 1 (31:57):
He's also a lot taller than you.
Speaker 2 (31:58):
He most people are.
Speaker 6 (32:00):
What is that?
Speaker 7 (32:01):
It's nothing, but I mean like, he's a lot taller
is most people are.
Speaker 1 (32:06):
Yeah, but he's like six ' four.
Speaker 2 (32:08):
Yeah is he?
Speaker 1 (32:10):
Yes, he's a tall dude. He's like everyone looks the
same to me.
Speaker 7 (32:13):
So I was like, really is he?
Speaker 3 (32:16):
He might be?
Speaker 1 (32:17):
Guys, because you're an ear and event what are you
an even five feet? Okay?
Speaker 2 (32:22):
Okay, I like my heel.
Speaker 1 (32:24):
Side as Monty is now stretching in the updates to.
Speaker 7 (32:28):
Trying to be five to one, trying to be five
to one?
Speaker 1 (32:30):
Uh good on a stretch track like Bobby Brady.
Speaker 3 (32:33):
Yeah good, yeah, exactly. Guys.
Speaker 2 (32:35):
Clippers put put on a good fight.
Speaker 7 (32:37):
They did without anybody, you know, no, Kawhi, you know
James Harden, Norman pal Bets Zoobots. They went down to
the wire against the Celtics and then some Boston won
and one seventeen to one thirteen in overtime shake. Gilles Alexander,
though dropped a career high fifty four points on Wednesday
as a thunder outscored the Jazz one twenty three to
one fourteen. The Rockets stick down the Cavaliers one o
(32:59):
nine to one oh eight, and the Timberwooves age the
Maps one fifteen to one fourteen in a losing effort.
Kyrie Irving had thirty six points, officially surpassing eighteen thousand
career points. The Suns, they crushed the Nets one away
to eighty four. The Pistons top the Hawks one fourteen
to one oh four, and the Grizzlies be the Hornets
one thirty two to one twenty. There was supposed to
(33:20):
be a Bucks Pelicans game that was postponed due to
the winter storm that's happening in the New Orleans area.
Jimmy Butler has been suspended two games by the Miami
Heat for missing eighteen flight on Wednesday, so he's gonna
miss Thursday's game In Milwaukee and Saturday's game in Brooklyn.
In college hoops, number seven Houston has won eleven in
(33:40):
a row after crushing Utah seventy to thirty six and
number thirteen Texas A and m Edge number sixteen Ole miss.
Speaker 1 (33:47):
Sixty three to sixty two.
Speaker 7 (33:49):
On the ice, the Jets edged the Avalanche three to
two in overtime, and the Blue Jackets outscored the Maple
Leaves five to one. And in the NFL, the Jets
have a new coach and it's Detroit Linon defensive coordinator
Aaron Glenn. ESPN reports that it's a five year deal,
while the Bengals are hiring Notre Dame defensive coordinator Al
Golden as their new defensive coordinator.
Speaker 1 (34:11):
Back to you guys, thank you. Yes, now, I know
we just talked about a few minutes ago, because I said,
let me look this up and see if I could
find it. Hey person must have turned in a blank
ballot for for ech Ro Suzuki, right, That's why maybe
it's whatever it is they put out there. Let me
look and see if I could find that out. So
I went to Baseball Writer Association America website and I
(34:32):
read the latest recap they had on the on the
Hall of Fame and it says in the recap there
were no blank ballots submitted.
Speaker 3 (34:44):
That's much more fun.
Speaker 1 (34:45):
So now that's much better. It's back to where it was. Where. Boy,
this is really embarrassing for Major League Baseball.
Speaker 4 (34:52):
So again it's either a parody account or someone get
decided they were voting for somebody else, I'll tell you
and leaving Oh Suzuki off.
Speaker 2 (35:04):
That's great.
Speaker 1 (35:05):
Thanks thanks to Nate for helping with that a little
bit right there. Yeah, all the way to the end
right there, you had no blank bellots Admitte. Coming up next,
we'll break down the game of the Night in the
NBA and tell you if a trade is really close
for the team that lost. That's next Jason and Mike Fox.
Speaker 2 (35:23):
Look, I'm gonna do things my way and be sure
to catch live editions of The Jason Smith Show with
Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven pm Pacific, Fox.
Speaker 1 (35:34):
Sports Radio The Jason Smith Show with My best friend
Mike Harmon live Fromthtirack dot Com Studios. Game of the
Night in the NBA, the Golden State Warriors looked like
they were gonna get a big feel good win they
needed one, except that didn't happen. Steve Kerr absolutely melts
(35:54):
down at the officials late in the third quarter a
game the Warriors were winning, the Kings go on big run.
They go on a big run late and they outlast
the Warriors one twenty three to one seventeen. The Warriors
now fall under five hundred again at twenty one and
twenty two, and now talk is going to turn to
Jimmy Butler, who is getting suspended again by the Miami
(36:17):
Heat for missing the plane to the game. Suspended for
the next two games tomorrow and Friday or Saturday because
he missed the plane. Now he's gonna be dealt and
pat Riley, I'm sorry if you need an intervention right now,
I'm gonna tell you. I know this is not the
way it should be done. I know you don't want
to lose a you know, a man contest. But players
(36:38):
and stars in the NBA have the power. This is
how it works. This is how you have to trade them.
We've seen this work. We've seen players quit, not play,
want to get out, and eventually they get traded because
they're powerful. I'm sorry, it's not the NBA. You left
the NBA. You want, but this is how you go
and let me let me just warn against this because
the Warriors have been a big conversation the last couple
(36:59):
of weeks about what should we do, and Steph Curry says,
I want to improve, I want to get better, but
not at the expense of the future. And I agree,
don't trade for Jimmy Butler. You know he's got the
Warriors on his list of preferred destinations. And now Butler
clearly will be traded. He is he has absolutely played
his last game for the Heat. In fact, we talked
about it last night. The Warriors need to lean in
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the other direction, and eventually, maybe it's after this eight
game home stand. Steph Curry's got to realize I need
to go somewhere else if I'm gonna win. And if
I'm a GM, I'm not pat Riley calling the Warriors
about about Jimmy Butler. I'm another team calling the Warriors
about Steph Curry. What do you need for him? What
do you need from at this point? Because we think
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we can win, and it would be sending Steph off
with a chance to win because it's not happening in
Golden States. Just not anymore. They're going in the wrong direction.
And Steph is still a really terrific player. And with
the right team, boy, I'll tell you what, you can
clinch a team potentially winning the NBA Championship. There's so
many teams he can go to where you could just
plug him right in and wow, we're gonna blow the
(38:03):
doors off of everybody. But I would make that call.
And if you're Steph Curry, you have to think about
maybe for the next year and a half. I live
in you know, in San Francisco part time, and I
go play someplace else because I want to win a
title again. And it's not happening here. We're not signing
free agents, we're not getting any we're not getting lucky
in the draft. It's just not it. We had a
(38:23):
great run, but it's over. What's more important being a
one team superstar for the whole career or do you
want to give away the last five or seven years
of your prime in the last few years of your
career by playing for a team that's not gonna win.
You want to win. I know he wants to win.
I saw him single handedly win the gold medal for
the United States. He should have gotten all the gold medals.
This is where tough conversations have to happen. If you're
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another team, you can start it going. If you're Steph Curry,
clearly you have to be thinking about that at this point.
Speaker 3 (38:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (38:50):
The Butler side of things real quick is at some
point you've got such a distressed property, you're doing damage
to what you're doing in turn right that no matter
what you thought the value was of Jimmy Butler, that's deteriorated.
And now you have to go back into the marketplace
and as they say, get what you get. With the
(39:13):
Steph Curry side of things, it's that hard conversation he
Steve Kerr front office and be like how much you
really want to win because it's not in the cards here,
all right. We got Draymond Green apologizing to Jordan poole Man,
we got cats and dogs living in harmony, all of
these kind of crazy things. But for Steph Curry, yeah
he could he go play a huge role for another
(39:34):
three four years probably right. They introduced a new baby
this last year. Maybe he doesn't want to uproot and
change locals. Maybe do that you know traveling thing you're
on the road a toun during the season anyway. But yeah,
he's just got to decide does he want to be
what's more important to him? Warrior for life? See how
(39:55):
I feel like I'm going down old movies that we
watch for life, Worry for life, worry for you want
to find another title because part of me thinks he's
the type of guy that would say, I don't want
to chase the title somewhere else.
Speaker 1 (40:12):
Then if you don't want to win, he's got it's
not gonna be chasing a title. It's going to be. Hey,
everybody's on the same page. The Warriors are helping me go.
I'm getting to this team. I'm always a Warrior. He
can always go back in finisher and add on, always
go back and finish. You're still Steph.
Speaker 4 (40:26):
No, now you're gonna get the derision that Kevin Durant
did when he joined you.
Speaker 1 (40:30):
You're still Steph Curry. You can still win and you
if you want to. It's what has to happen. Quite honestly,
it's what has.
Speaker 4 (40:35):
To I'd rather see him stay there and then he
and Jason Tatum hug and while Steve Kerr looks on,
go what are they talking.
Speaker 1 (40:42):
About exit out, about a Fresca exit swelling down The
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