January 25, 2025 • 41 mins
Jason and Mike can’t believe the Dallas Cowboys fired Mike McCarthy for whom? Why the Brian Schottenheimer hire is on-brand for Jerry Jones. And the CFP National Championship is headed to Vegas. Plus, a reunion in the Bay!
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Speaker 2 (00:59):
Well. Big news that's come in. It's about fifteen minutes old.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
ESPN's Adam Schefter reporting the Cowboys have their new head coach.
According to Jerry Jones quote, he has been known as
a career assistant.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
Okay, that's always what you want to say. In a statement.
First thing about he.
Speaker 4 (01:17):
Wait wait, wait, you start with a strong thesis statement,
he's known.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
As a career assistant. Oh okay, that's great. Now you're
really not telling me on it quote. He ain't Brian
no more. He is now known as.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
The head coach of the Dallas Cowboys.
Speaker 5 (01:33):
He's legally changed his name.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
His name is no long ban head coach of the
Dallas Cowboys.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
Schottenheimer is now officially Brian Schottenheimer's name. He is the
new Cowboys head coach. A press conference coming on Monday. Again,
this news about fifteen minutes old. I'm sorry, Pete Carroll,
you got bumped to the lifestyle section. The Cowboys have
their new head coach, and as a man that was
so in demand across the NFL, zero people him to
(02:00):
become their new head coach. Not the Jets, who interviewed
twenty people before they settled on Aaron Glenn. Not the Bears,
who I think that more than the Jets. I think
they were up at like twenty three before they said, oh,
the guy we're getting at the very beginning is our guy,
Ben Johnson. No, so just those two teams, forty three
guys they talked to just those teams forty three guys.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
Nope, No, Brian Schottenheimer.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
The Jaguars had a guy who said, I don't want
the job until you fire the GM. He didn't take it.
They fired the GM. That guy came back. Nope, nope,
no interview with Brian Schottenheimer. The Raiders said, hey, why
not get a guy? Why not go get Pete Carroll,
he's seventy four. No, I can't believe anybody's not let's
talk to me. No interviews with Brian Schottenheimer. This is
(02:43):
the Dallas Cowboys new head coach. This is who Jerry
Jones fired Mike McCarthy to go get longtime coordinator.
Speaker 4 (02:52):
Been through many a stop since beginning his coaching career
in nineteen ninety seven. An assistant with the Saint Louis Rams,
did a stint at Syracuse in nineteen ninety nine.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
Yep, so tied to you.
Speaker 5 (03:05):
He's a day younger than me. She got that going
for you.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
And then he was the OC with the Jets in
the in the big heyday with Rex Ryan It's and
that underperforming offense.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
He was the OC now, but.
Speaker 4 (03:17):
They got to to count him two AFC title games.
They haven't been back to the playoffs. Lett, I'd lead
with that look when I left. They haven't been back
to the playoffs since Bell.
Speaker 5 (03:30):
So you got that going for you.
Speaker 4 (03:32):
Stops at Georgia, the Colts, the Seahawks, the Jaguars, analysts
with the Cowboys indo offensive coordinator, and now.
Speaker 5 (03:40):
You're a head coach.
Speaker 4 (03:42):
Well, we always talk about and preach about continuity and consistency.
I guess the consistency is that Jerry is gonna be
Jerry and he's gonna give us gifts just like he
does today.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
I'll tell you what. I'm gonna double down. I'm gonna
triple out, quadrupleed it. This was a if this was
a poker show, I would quadruple. I would put all
my chips to the middle, and I would say, you
know why Jerry Jones fired Mike McCarthy. He didn't fire
Mike McCarthy because he underachieved. This is Brian Schottenheimer on
the same staff, right, same staff, same staff. I can't say, well,
(04:16):
the head coach of it. But then when you see
the way the trickle down theory works in economics, it's
the same thing in the NFL. I don't really know
what that means, but it sounds good, like trickle down
sounds good. So we get and he looked where the
blamee goes, and the Blaine kind of slides to the
side of where shot he is, and I just, you know,
all the blame just kind of goes towards my McCarthy.
Did he fire Mike McCarthy because he underachieved or because
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when Dak Prescott got hurt, the Cowboys didn't quit. They
galvanized behind Mike McCarthy. They played better than anybody thought
they would. They played through till the end of the season.
When McCarthy got let go, Dak Prescott was upset, Michael
Parsons was upset. The two biggest leaders the Cowboys had said, yeah,
well we're really upset about this. So was he hired
(05:00):
because he'd lost, or was he fired because he lost?
Speaker 2 (05:03):
Or was he fired.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
Because he was becoming too big a voice in the
Cowboys locker room? He was challenging Jerry Jones, and Jerry
Jones said, well, you can't have that happen, So now
let me hire Brian Schottenheimer, who clearly is going not
going to compete with my voice for.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
The Dallas Cowboys.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
Now you said it last night, big hot take, Now
you think about it tonight. Why else why would you
fire Mike McCarthy or Brian Schottenheimer. If you fired Mike
McCarthy for Dion Sanders, I get it. If you fired
Mike McCarthy from Bill Belichick, I would disagree, but I'd
get it. There's guys I get right. Hey, we want
to do something big, we want to shake things up.
He wants to keep the headlines going. Okay, I understand that,
(05:40):
But Brian Shott, I mean, come on. I mean, look,
Schottenheimer is a pretty good assistant coach. Right now, I'm
going all Jerry Jones. He's a pretty good assistant coach,
and you know, by all accounts, everybody says good things
about him and a good guy, and the players like him.
But I mean, come on, man, I mean, this is
what you I mean. If I'm a Cowboy right now,
I'm like, I gotta get out of here. I'm Michael Parsons.
I said, no, do not negotiating a new deal. I
(06:01):
do not want new money. I will hit free agency
and I will go someplace else because I don't know
what the hell is going on here.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
But this ain't for me.
Speaker 4 (06:09):
Now, remember that, you know he's not really fired. They
fixed the glitch and they mutually parted ways. I feel
like I'm reading that book from the Harry Potter m
right where dude flies off with death at the end,
because that's kind of where we're at in this process.
I'm wondering if Jerry Jones might have learned a lesson
(06:30):
from back in the day of you know how things
happen when you ran players off instead.
Speaker 5 (06:35):
You know, the Chip Kelly era of Philadelphia.
Speaker 4 (06:38):
You were in division and you watched it happen, and
anybody that had a voice found their way on the outs.
So in this case, you've got players that load up.
And I still contend it might be. The other is
that they all played for Schottenheimer. He really want to
hurt stand up.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
We would have to stop. We would. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
Does Brian Schottenheimer pay you to say that? Because if
he paid, no, no, no, no, Evidently he is a contributor
to the thirty third team.
Speaker 4 (07:08):
So Jason Cole might have collected another check and getting
Shotenheimer a job here.
Speaker 5 (07:12):
I'll have to ask him next week about he.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
Said he's spamming everybody's email box on the thirty third team,
going Brian with all Shottenheimer's stats, like all like this
is where his offense is. Right, don't look at last year,
but the other years. Look at the other years. Where's happen? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (07:27):
The old thing bringing that up about is, you know,
the final weeks of the season, you got a guy
with the coordinator and whatever the language was, whatever the
the simplicity of the offense was, it seemed to click
down the stretch. They still played hard, and I agree
with you a lot of that was the heart and
integrity that they showed, and love of Mike McCarthy and
(07:49):
what he meant and knowing that you know he was
being scapegoaded for a bunch of it. But in the end,
you're the head coach and things had gone badly and
in the playoffs before, there's only so much you could say, Hey,
you know what pinned on the player here, pinned on
the player here? You know what this year was Dak's fault?
Oh and Dan Quinn over there, who's now at Washington.
(08:11):
We've talked about him a lot. I don't need to
bring it back up, but there's been a scapegoat all
along and now it's going badly and it's like, hey, Mike,
what's going on?
Speaker 5 (08:19):
When Dak was here, we weren't playing very well. Oh
it falls on you.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
Right.
Speaker 5 (08:24):
And so for Jerry and moving forward.
Speaker 4 (08:28):
His ego and we've seen it at every turn, talking
about you know, why would I hire a GM This
is why I bought the team. Perhaps the most damning
of all of the lines that he's given through the
year's most honest.
Speaker 5 (08:41):
I mean, other than.
Speaker 4 (08:42):
The soliloquy he had on land Man hanging out with
Billy Bob Thorton's company man, that's the most honest moment
Jerry Jones. Is he in front of a microphone, it's
my team. Why am I hiring someone else to do
what I want to do?
Speaker 2 (08:56):
Listen, I'm leaving.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
I'm not gonna really be running the Cowboys because I'm
a I'm a Hollywood star. Now I'm gonna go do
uh the nos Feratoo sequel and uh in in the
in the movie, I just I'm the big vampire, right,
and I just I go to New York and I
get the Mara blood and then uh, you know, I'll
go to uh, I'll go to Pittsburgh, I get the
Rooney blood. And I get all that, and all of
a sudden, I'm a big, bigger super vampire owner. And
(09:19):
then I get the godel blood and I can make
all the big decisions. I get all and suddenly I'm
just this big voltron of of of NFL owners. But
and that become the bigger, bigger guy to keep getting
bigger and bigger, like the like the more girl in
the substance, and I just keep getting bigger and bigger.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
All different heads.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
Keep popping out of me, and oh, that's a that's
the head, that's a rooney head, that's the mar head. Oh,
I gotta write this down. I could be in the
sequel to the Substance. Let me write that down to Okay, great,
So that's me. I'm a Hollywood guy now who wants
an autograph.
Speaker 4 (09:46):
You really are morphing into like this is now becoming
part of an alternate persona for you.
Speaker 5 (09:52):
Gotta be careful. Gotta be careful, just like split every
seven days.
Speaker 4 (09:56):
You gotta uh or I should say the substance every
every seventh, every seven days.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
But I'll know if I start going into Starbucks and
saying I'll have one of those Mocha latees and with
the almond milk, and because you know the almond milk
it's more healthy. I'm sorry, well my name is uh
oh I forget first. Just uh you know, just put
just put a star on it. I'll know that's mine.
Just put a big silver star on it.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
I'll know that's my.
Speaker 4 (10:23):
I think you should do that and see how long
it takes before someone in line behind you or someone
behind the counter catches on.
Speaker 5 (10:31):
Jerry Jones is kind of a big deal.
Speaker 4 (10:32):
We're having that whole conversation about show Hey and and
epay yesterday. Folks can find that conversation more audio and
filling in some of the blanks came out a little
earlier today. So that's fun. But the Jerry Jones h
now he's got Brian Schottenheimer. Don't call him a career
coordinator anymore.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
I mean the fact that he has to just think
about that.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
That that's the statement that came out along with Adam
Schefter's tweet that Brian Schottenheimer is a guy he was
known as a career assistant.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
But he ain't Brian no more.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
You gotta risk like he's he's having to tell everybody
you have to respect my choice as head coach, Like
everybody's gonna suddenly go oh wait.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
Wait, wait, wait, you know, hang on a second, hey guys.
Speaker 1 (11:12):
But yeah, he's really serious, you know, and he's right, Hey,
we got we gotta take a different look at this
and talk about how Schotenheimer's the best head coach in
the NFL when you have to, when you have to
defend your head coaching job right away, like what kind
of choice is that?
Speaker 2 (11:26):
I mean, I mean, I I.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
Don't really the Cowboys they're doomed to this wheel.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
It just it's just gonna continue to go and it's just.
Speaker 1 (11:33):
Gonna you know, they don't really get to the top
before they start going back down to the bottom.
Speaker 4 (11:37):
And it's not even like the helter skelter lyrics.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
Yeah, it's you know what it's not. It's not a wheel.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
It's more like the like the what do they call it,
the parts of a tank that they're really low to
the ground, like they did, like a wheel is round
and it gets up high to the top, but like
that whole but but like the wheel of a tank
just kind of goes straight and then it goes under
and back and comes up and goes straight. Like that's
what the Cowboys are. They don't even go we Hey,
we're at the top of the NFL. But on our
way back down, everything is the same. Everything has been
(12:05):
the same for the Cowboys going on thirty five years.
It's it's not gonna change. Yeah, I thought, you know,
for a second, when he's actually talking to Dion Sanders, Okay,
it's gonna be Dion and let's go. It's gonna be
a show. It's gonna be insane. But Deon's got great
cachet with players. Maybe he's the pied piper, and suddenly
I want to go play for Dion. I want to
(12:25):
go there and look at this team he's building. Look
at the roster he's built with Colorado in a couple
of years. However popular or unpopular it is. Look the guy,
you have no doubt the guy built a winning team.
He's got two of the top five picks in the
draft most likely. All right, you know that that I
get the But no, no, no, no, no, that was
just a little bit.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
That was a little bit.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
Now hey, okay, now, really we're going with Brian Schottenheimer.
Speaker 4 (12:45):
Now this one, for me, it really is Jerry Jones'
ultimate active defiance by putting out that statement by owing
everything he's announcing his new coach, but owing it all
to the rhetoric in the public sphere well as to
why Schottenheimer shouldn't be the guy. And now it's no, no, no,
(13:10):
you watch, it's gonna work. He's been here.
Speaker 5 (13:12):
We love him, he's our guy, and you don't love him.
Speaker 4 (13:17):
Continuous track caterpillar tread or tank tread the why then change?
Speaker 2 (13:24):
Let's go, Let's go tank tread.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
I like the caterpillar, Yeah, but people, I don't know
that people fit way as the caterpillar with a tread.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
Yeah, I think tank tread.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
People get the visual because now I'm thinking of some
kind of super caterpillar. Like it's in Transformers and suddenly
it's a caterpillar, but it transforms into it's an actual
caterpillar that transformed into a caterpillar piece of machinery that
transforms into an audible which.
Speaker 5 (13:45):
Later fights Godzilla and or Mathra.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
Yeah uh oh boy, like a like a like an
auto like at.
Speaker 4 (13:52):
The Septicon, Mathra Or matches it. It becomes a triple
threat match. Look, we gotta we've bridged a lot of worlds.
We've had Freddie versus Jason and all of these other things.
Why not do it here?
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Speaker 2 (14:06):
What do you got Frostburg?
Speaker 3 (14:07):
Jason, raise your glass?
Speaker 2 (14:09):
Okay, hang on, Mike, raise your glass.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
I'm raising my die Okay, I'm raising my die.
Speaker 6 (14:14):
Coke What I never ever ever thought I would ever
say this. Okay, but sheers to you guys, knowing that
your teams are not the crappiest anymore.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
I would drink to that. Hang on, and even if
it's for one.
Speaker 3 (14:30):
Night, drink away. Oh no, no, no, you say a cowboy
fan or you know one, buy him a beer.
Speaker 5 (14:34):
We get out of your house, just for one day.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
I texted Fabiano right after it happened, Dude, you hired
Brian Schottenheimer.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
Nothing.
Speaker 3 (14:40):
He's gonna need a case of beer.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
I've got nothing back.
Speaker 5 (14:45):
I just send him another gift of Aaron Jones dropping
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Speaker 1 (14:48):
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Speaker 1 (16:46):
We search to get a head coach, but we really
didn't search that far. Fired Mike McCarthy just to hire
his Oh see, there's no one who interviewed him.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
It was just us, and.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
We talked to him twice and we hired him.
Speaker 3 (17:16):
Damn'm right. It is.
Speaker 4 (17:21):
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Here we go, Here we go.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
Brian Schottenheimer the new head coach of the Dallas Cowboys.
We'll have more on that coming up in a few minutes,
but already the dominoes are falling, because as soon as
the Cowboys named Brian Schottenheimer their head coach, Ian Rappaport
NFL NFL dot com said, uh, the San Francisco forty
nine ers are hiring Robert Salah as their new defensive
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and old defensive coordinator.
Speaker 2 (18:01):
He had interviewed in Jacksonville. Interview with the Cowboys.
Speaker 1 (18:04):
Jacksonville obviously got their guy because they fired Trent Balky
to go get him. And with this out of the Cowboys,
Sala apparently told John Lynch Kyle Shanahan, listen, if I
don't gland a head coaching job, I will come back
as a defensive coordinator.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
And here's the first time.
Speaker 1 (18:19):
Maybe it's positivity Friday, or we just used up all
the Oh my goodness, how ridiculous.
Speaker 5 (18:23):
You got a pretty good laugh out of that. You're
not side show, Bob cat Get.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
I gotta tell you, man, I'm gonna say something good
about Robert Sala for the first time and like, I
don't know, a year and a half. Uh, he'll be great.
He'll be great. Why Because I've seen him be a
great defensive coordinator. I've seen him build a great defense
with the San Francisco forty nine ers.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
I've seen his system.
Speaker 1 (18:47):
Work of forty five defensive lineman just rotating them in
and out. I saw his defense work in New York
when he was here. When you just put him in
charge of the defense, everything is fine. Some guys, Hey,
I'm a great DC, but oh.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
Can I can I build a culture? Can I do it?
Speaker 1 (19:02):
Not? Everybody is that kind of guy, which really honestly
tells you you don't need to just look at the
OC and the DC when you're looking for a new
head coach. Some guys are great coordinators, but they're bad
head coaches. Some guys are really good position coaches, but
they'd be bad coordinators, but they'd be great head coaches
because they know things about building a culture. But you know,
we default to the O c's and the DC's because
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we think, well, they'll take this system that work, They're
gonna pick it up, bring it over, drop it in,
and it's gonna be great, except you know, we're not
bringing the players that we built this great system with.
Oh that's a little bit different story. But sala is
gonna be a great DC. I have no doubt in
my mind he is going to be a great defensive
quarterator because he did it before.
Speaker 2 (19:42):
He knows that.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
Look, I have to build my resume back up again
because now I've been in the club so now and
I'm looking at this offseason. Boy Pete Carroll got a
job again. Guys getting gigs, it's insane. So I know,
if I build my resume up and I get the
stink of the Jets away from me for a while,
hey maybe in a year or two, Hey my name
gets bad to the top, I build back this forty
nine Ers defense, and I can be back in the
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mix of being the next head coach. And I've learned
a lot of lessons with New York and wherever I go,
I'm definitely not going back anywhere close to there, so
I can do things pretty well. I mean, there's no
other shoe to drop, there is no any other part
of this. He's going to do a great job as
a Niners defensive coidator. He's exactly what they need looking
for their return to glory coming off this really bad year.
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There's gonna be a lot of up and down and
a lot of draft or turnover, so they're gonna need
him to come in. They can trust him with that
side of the football. This is a great move. This
works for everybody, works for Sala, works the Niners. No
fingers crossed hands by no every bahrman. This is a
good move for the forty nine ers and a good
move for Salt.
Speaker 4 (20:43):
Yeah, we'll go back to the Cowboys in a minute,
because they might be making a good move as well
in terms of who says you can't go home again.
But we look at the Peter principle in effect in
a lot of these cases, right, guys like Norvell Turner,
Wade Phillips, We keep going. There's tons of guys that
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were good to great defensive quarter Steve Spagnolo, right, look
at him, how much we celebrate him right now? He
took bites at the Apple as a head coach, but
he goes down as a great coordinator for Robert Sala.
He's got the component pieces there that work right. Bosa's
under contract. Fred Warner came back from injury and was
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flying around the field. You're looking at rebuilding that roster.
They'll get rid of some of the offensive components, as
you said, and shed some of the dollars and reconstitute things.
But he's done it before you get promoted to the
level of incompetence, is the Peter principal, Right, So you
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go and you're above your head. You may have eighty
percent of the job down and locked in, but the
other twenty percent send you spiraling straight to hell as
if you were, you know, snowboarding down a mountain. Oh
that's where we're at in this process for Robert sala Yeah,
because look at what that defense did after he was gone.
And I bring up the Cowboys and defense because they're
(22:10):
evidently going to talk to Matt Eberflus, who worked there
under Jason Garrett a few years ago before becoming the
coordinator in Indianapolis and eventually the head coach of the Bears,
both the Bears and the Jets. What happened after those
guys got fired Salah and Eberfu's both their defenses struggled mightily.
Any principles, any cohesiveness that they'd had early in the
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season were gone, and they scuffled the rest of the
season on that side of the ball. So yeah, go
back to where you made your bones, to where you
made your name. Does it build you back up to
where you necessarily get a second shot? I don't see
why it wouldn't, given what we just watched in this
coaching cycle, with New Orleans still pending, just a whole
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lot of Hey, well, at least bring in to talk.
Can't promise see anything more than whatever's on the lunch
menu that day, but you could be one of our
many people that we talk to, because we'll steal at
least one or two good ideas from you before we
move on. But for Robert Sala goes back where he's
known in an opportunity in a division that's currently really
(23:15):
in flux. Right, A lot of questions about what Seattle's
roster will be. Is dk Metcalf coming back? Are they
mad at him? Is he going to get traded? We
talked about the Rams, Matthew Stafford, some of these veteran
components of the Rams, are they coming back? No, But
they got some young guys that'll be there a while.
A couple of guys nominated for defensive Rookie of the
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year and then Arizona. Every time you think, hey, they're
making progress, they can't get out of their own way.
So the division's there for the forty nine ers with
a little bit of health and are restructuring just in
terms of attitude and getting back out of the off
season business that they had a year ago to go
back and reclaim that division, you know.
Speaker 1 (23:56):
Now, and this is the other part of for the Cowboys,
right if all of a sudden, hey, the band of
unsuccessful head coaches getting back together, is that like the
league the League of Extraordinary Gentlemen, the band of unsuccessful
head coaches is that. You know, we talked a few
minutes ago about how Brian Schottenheimer is not somebody that
interviewed with any other team for a head coaching job, right,
(24:17):
Like that's embarrassing, Like you you hired a guy that
literally no other team said, you know, maybe he's a
great leader, right, So that that's embarrassing.
Speaker 5 (24:25):
She should have floated it out that you denied people's requests.
Speaker 2 (24:29):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's what. Yeah, yeah he denied everybody.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
Really, Yeah, they talk to other teams, are like, yeah, sure, whatever,
Jerry says, I don't whatever.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
I don't care. But here's the other part of it
is that not only did that happen.
Speaker 1 (24:43):
Right, but unless I miss some clandestine meetings, the Cowboys
just after the fact said they held interest in Mike Vrabel.
They didn't talk to Ben Johnson, they didn't talk to
Aaron Glenn, they didn't talk to Liam Cohen, didn't talk
to any of these guys that got that got hired,
but especially Ben Johnson, Aaron Glenn, Mike Vrabel, who emerged
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as the top three guys in this cycle. Right now,
we say, and I'm not saying all of a sudden,
the cycle is not great, right, but it's what we have.
It wasn't this bunch of teams that need coaches aren't
great teams. The guys that were out there were not
incredible over the top choices, but there's some level of
top choices. These were the three top guys, and the
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Cowboys didn't talk to any of them, right Like they
had the one interview with Robert Sala that we knew about.
Oh my god, I'm talking to Robert Sala and we're
gonna talk to Kellen Moore and all young. Now it's
Brian Schottenheimer, Like like.
Speaker 2 (25:37):
I don't know. How do you walk out?
Speaker 1 (25:39):
How do you sit in a room and and and
find out this is our plan to hire a head
coach Unless nobody's in that room. It's just a room
with not the only one in the room. You know,
say you want to be in the room where it happens,
that's just my room. There's nobody else in the room,
not even on a conference call. There's a different room
down the hall where the other guy, Steven's in there,
other people in that.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
But but I'm in a room by myself.
Speaker 1 (25:59):
Like, how do you go through this and say, hey,
all right, do we want to talk to Ben Johnson?
Speaker 4 (26:04):
No?
Speaker 1 (26:04):
No, we want to talk to Aaron Glenn But no, no,
I don't want to do that. I want to talk
to fret No. No, don't want to do get rable
on a play. No, not gonna do any of that.
Like that's the other part of it. That's just why
the Cowboys are doomed to this reality that they've had
for the better part of thirty years, right, and nothing
has changed. Right, you know, Jerry Jones is the is
the one consistent guy through all of this. But you know,
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I mean, so that's why it's not surprising, but just
the absolute facts to it that It's not like it
would have looked even better if Jerry Jones had said, Hey,
I talked to Ben Johnson, we talked to Aaron Glenn,
we talked to Rabel, we talked to everybody. I talked
to Belichick, I talked to all these guys. No, and
Brian Schottenheimer is our guy. Okay, you could disagree with
that obvious, I would still disagree. I'm not saying something
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I would say, hey, I go, but at least I
would say, well, we talked to everybody. You exhausted and
and there's a happy medium between talking to the top
guys are talking to twenty five people like the Jets
and the Bears did, But at least do you You're
due diligence and showed like you actually made some sort
of of effort. Here. He seems like a teenager in
his room. That's just yeah, I'm gonna copy all this
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stuff from my report. I'm just gonna cut and paste
off Wikipedia, my teachers. As lazy as I am. He's
not gonna know. It's gonna turn this report and it's
gonna be absolutely fine. Oh hey, who wants to play Fortnite.
Come on, let's get out, let's do it. I'll I'll
just cut and paste it later on that I'll change
a couple of adverbs and adjectives.
Speaker 2 (27:22):
It's gonna be awesome. Like is that? Is that how
this this.
Speaker 1 (27:25):
This search was made Like Jerry Jones knew all along,
this is how I'm doing it. Okay, here's da I'm
gonna announce it. I'm gonn announce it today and have
this like that.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
That's so.
Speaker 1 (27:33):
That's so on brand for the Cowboys and on brand
for Jerry Jones. I've never gotten to a point where
I said, boy, you know, I really I feel bad
for Cowboys fans, but wow, I feel really bad when
you have a certain level of excellence that you're used
to for your life and you keep thinking and banging
your head against the wall, going eventually it's gonna change, Right,
Eventually it's gonna change. And slowly the good times just
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start to erode, and and you get to a point
where I can't even get excited because this is not
even an excite higher. It's not exciting for the players,
not exciting for the fans. It's exciting for the Schottenheimer
family and It's exciting for Brian Schottenheimer, very excited, but
this is not exciting for anybody. Like, I can't believe
I'm starting to feel bad for Cowboy What's wrong with me?
Speaker 2 (28:13):
Man? Is it because Friday is your positivity Friday? Like,
I'm starting to feel bad for Cowboys fans? What is
wrong with me?
Speaker 4 (28:19):
Did you hear sob stories from your dad about the
Yankees all day? Is that you know you broke you down,
took a little bit of your will and your soul.
It's like, hey, hey, celebrating it until Wow, this is
really broken my dad?
Speaker 2 (28:33):
Dude, you want you want a SOB story?
Speaker 1 (28:34):
I just spend the day sitting here going, we're really
gonna trade for Spencer Torkelsen to replace Pete Alonzo. So
I didn't have the best sports day, right, but I'm
still full of positivity Friday night.
Speaker 4 (28:44):
Once upon a time a guy that people were very,
very very excited about until they realized he couldn't field,
but uh, and then after that he couldn't hit fun
He had a.
Speaker 1 (28:55):
Really good twenty twenty three. Now, don't know what you
tell me. Don't ask me about the.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
Other two years.
Speaker 1 (28:59):
That's right about the here's book ending twenty twenty three,
but twenty twenty three was good.
Speaker 4 (29:03):
Anytime we can get the bookends in, we've won. How
about this the sell it to the Cowboys fans like
you were the White Sox and you were a mystery team,
so you might have really talked to these people, but
you just kind of slough it out after the fact.
Speaker 5 (29:19):
Oh yeah, oh yeah. We were kind of.
Speaker 4 (29:21):
In on him, kind of in on that as opposed
to now, if this was the plan, either we were
going to strong arm McCarthy to come back, or Shottenheim
or showed us enough around the building the last couple
of years as a consultant. And then, because that's the
other good move, right be it consultant, get into the room,
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convince them you're the smartest guy in the room, and
then they give you a.
Speaker 5 (29:45):
Big fluffy package to stay.
Speaker 4 (29:47):
On as a full time employee. It's good advice, it's
a good way to go. Not to mention again, member
of the thirty third team. And you know, Jason Cole
may have had a hand in this the whole an
hire myself.
Speaker 2 (30:01):
I'm gonna hire myself.
Speaker 4 (30:03):
I really I've looked up at all the uh the
things you're looking for in a cannon.
Speaker 5 (30:08):
Look at my resume. That's just point for point.
Speaker 1 (30:11):
This is like when when Corvin Burnson comes in Major
League two and that talks to about all the problems
going on.
Speaker 2 (30:17):
But I've solve some issues today.
Speaker 1 (30:19):
I activated myself coming out of retirement to play as
mung as you still, I'm hiring myself.
Speaker 2 (30:27):
All the problems are going.
Speaker 5 (30:28):
Away, Okay.
Speaker 4 (30:29):
I need to be in the room where it happens,
and I can affect change day to day. If I
just take my consultant check and walk away, I mean,
you may have some of the learnings, but you won't
have me.
Speaker 2 (30:41):
Man. I feel bad for Cowboy, but.
Speaker 5 (30:44):
Remember they haven't really been good for thirty years.
Speaker 2 (30:47):
I know.
Speaker 5 (30:47):
Now you now have salty Troy Aikman out there.
Speaker 1 (30:50):
Yeah, oh sure, sure, I can't believe him as the coach.
Speaker 4 (30:53):
Well, I was kind of hoping that that would happen,
that they'd hire Wittener, one of those guys that played
with him, and then suddenly Troy would come back as
a consultant, her coordinator himself.
Speaker 1 (31:03):
What I'm gonna do is I'm gonna have every week
is gonna be a guest Cowboy head coach past legend.
Speaker 2 (31:09):
Uh. Here's the schedule for the seventeen weeks.
Speaker 1 (31:11):
It's Troy week one, and at week two, Michael week three, uh,
and then week four. Then we get into the past
a little bit. Doug Cosby's gonna come in and coach for
a little while.
Speaker 7 (31:20):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (31:20):
Tony Hill is gonna coach. Tony Dorsett's gonna come in. Uh.
Speaker 1 (31:24):
And then you know, if things go better, we could
go back to Troy at some point. But then don't
forget Tony's gonna come in and coach a little bit.
Speaker 2 (31:29):
We're gonna have that. Soa the got.
Speaker 5 (31:32):
Forty nine ers Charles Haley, Yeah, I've.
Speaker 1 (31:34):
Gotta have that. That's got absolutely that's a good idea there. Now, see,
we already were through seven weeks. Now I got seven
weeks of coaches. Just gotta get eight nine weeks more
and we're gonna be good to go. Do you think
Dion's willing to coach for one week and then we'll
play it up where he has to coach against his
boy ha ha. Time now to find out what's trending
in the wide world of sports. But man who's been
(31:56):
called the Jerry Jones of Fox Sports Radio don't you
dare he he's the greatest guy in the history of
the world. It's Steve de Sager.
Speaker 8 (32:04):
I take great offense to that. Before the sentences even ended, I.
Speaker 2 (32:09):
Was gonna say, he has just as much money as
Jerry Jones. It's Steve Desager. That's what I would say,
just like that.
Speaker 3 (32:16):
Okay, I don't take offense to that. Let's move on.
Speaker 8 (32:19):
You mentioned the Cowboys the last thirty years. Now that
Washington's playing for the NFC title this weekend, literally every
other NFC team has been in the NFC Championship game
but Dallas in the last thirty years, which is just
astounding to think. Also, this longtime NFL reporter Ed Werder
saying tonight that the Cowboys have their new defensive coordinator.
(32:42):
It's Matt Eberflus from the Chicago Bears. He had been
on Jason Garrett's Cowboys staff a decade ago.
Speaker 3 (32:50):
Oh no, we really suck again.
Speaker 8 (32:52):
As we mentioned earlier, the Dallas Cowboys, it's official, are
promoting Brian Schottenheimer to head coach news conference on that Monday,
are hiring Pete Carroll as head coach. He did not
coach this past season after fourteen years with the Seahawks.
Carol will turn seventy four in September, so he'll be
the oldest head coach in the NFL history. He reportedly
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gets a contract for three years plus a team option.
By the way, New Orleans the only one still with
a head coach opening in the NFL right now. Robert
Sala is now returning to San Francisco as defensive coordinator.
Speaker 3 (33:24):
That's official.
Speaker 8 (33:25):
The Texans fired offensive coordinator Bobby Slowick after two seasons.
Eagles quarterback Jalen Hurts is off the injury report after
last Sunday's bad knee. He'll likely wear brace this Sunday
against Washington for the NFC title. That'll be on Fox
TV three pm Eastern. Washington guard Sam Cosmi suffered a
torn ACL last Saturday night, obviously, he's out. In Philadelphia,
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defensive tackle Byron Young also out this weekend with a
hamstring injury. Buffalo safety Taylor rap is out with back
in hip injuries. The Bills are at Kansas City Sunday
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Speaker 1 (34:42):
Back to you, thanks a bunch STEVEA the Jason Smitzer
with Mike Harmon Love from the tyrech dot com studios.
Speaker 2 (34:48):
So there we go.
Speaker 1 (34:49):
Look, the Cowboys are just I mean, they can't get
out of their own way.
Speaker 2 (34:52):
But that's the Cowboys. I will have more NFL on
the way. We got to get to beat Carroll.
Speaker 1 (34:56):
But straight ahead, you want the most shocking colleg football
headline of the week.
Speaker 2 (35:02):
Wait, do we tell you what's coming up next? Jason
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Speaker 2 (35:39):
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Speaker 1 (35:41):
We'll have more NFL head coaching news coming up in
about ten minutes. So we spent a lot of time
on Brian Schottenheim and the Cowboys. Pete Carroll is now
packing the NFL as a head coach. But I love
this headline from College Football today because really plays into
a big story that we just saw.
Speaker 2 (36:00):
Hit its apex with the national championship earlier this week.
Speaker 1 (36:04):
Vegas is getting the national championship in twenty twenty seven. Okay,
that's great. That's that's two years from now. Okay, no, great,
here's in Vegas. The national championship game will be played
on January twenty fifth, So if you were extrapolating that
to this week to this year, this means we still
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wouldn't have played the national Championship. It would be tomorrow night.
We'd be playing the The college football National Championship will
be played the day before the final games in the
NFL leading into the Super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (36:39):
What are you still mad about your it?
Speaker 1 (36:42):
Hey, wait a minute, we're gonna the playoffs. Can expanse
your accuse is going to be there? Nah, it's a nude.
Speaker 2 (36:47):
We're a football school now, man, We're a football school.
Speaker 1 (36:51):
This plays into the old This is the only detriment
that the playoff. I had about the playoff this year
is that. And now likely they're gonna expand because you know,
they don't want to get to that sticky wicket of Hey,
can we really have a team go to a conference championship,
lose and not get in and instead we take a
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team that didn't make it because they just didn't lose
that week, Like, that's a real sticky wicket. They're gonna
wind up having to take the conference championship finalists of
the four quote power conference, and I'd be Okay, if
they just did it for the Big Ten and the
ACC and the SEC, but they should do it for
all right, that certainly makes sense. So you're gonna wind
up having an expanded playoff if it's not this year,
(37:33):
by next year when this happens, and it's it's too long, right,
Like the college football doesn't quite have the star power
of the NFL, but even the NFL, you're playing games
every week and the end college football is trying to
find a way through the calendar and in December, in
January to play on nights where they can own the
(37:54):
night like they can own Thursdays or Fridays and not
have to worry.
Speaker 2 (37:57):
About competing against the NFL.
Speaker 1 (37:58):
And when it gets close to chriss, hey, we're ready,
we're chesty. We're playing on Saturdays. So but it's it's
just too long, and it's it doesn't need to be
that long. It certainly does not. You can have a
sixteen team playoff, right, And if you're you're doing it
with the calendar for this year, let's just say you
expand a sixteen you just start the playoff the week
(38:18):
after the conference title games. You have to you have
Army Navy and you have you have the first round
of playoff games. You kind of have to because then
as long as you play a couple of rounds before Christmas,
then if you're just going to spread out a little
bit the final two rounds, which are the semi finals
in the final, then we're okay because then you can
even spread it out and you're still crowning the champion
(38:41):
around January seventh or so, which is fine, right, I
think I think that's I think that's been a really
good sweet spot where, Hey, we were used to college
football ending on the first or the second. Now it's
pushed out to the seventh, and I think the seventh works, right, Hey,
we got the big games, the big bowl games are
going on, and all the excitement surrounding the other bowl
games and the semi final games. So you could still
(39:02):
do it and have the semis and the national championship
somewhere a little bit after Christmas and then and then
a little after New Year's right around anywhere between like
the fifth and the ninth of January. And I think
that works because this, quite honest, I'll tell you, it
was too long. It felt like we're waiting so long
to get to get to Notre Dame and Ohio State,
(39:24):
and it was just a little bit too long again,
nfls star Power. College football was lucky this year. Hey,
we had Notre Dame in it, but still it still
felt a little long, and they need to rectify that,
especially if now, I mean, look, come on, man, in
two really January twenty fifth, when we playing pretty soon
they'll be playing the National Championship the day before the
Super Bowl. Hey, back to back this weekend, Mike Carmon.
(39:44):
We got the National Title Game on Saturday and the
Super Bowl on Sunday.
Speaker 5 (39:48):
Let's go big weekend.
Speaker 4 (39:50):
Look, you had a decrease over ten percent in your
viewing audience, and part of that you can attribute to
the fact that while neither of the coasts were in,
so you got a little bit of that. But the
larger point I think that needs to be taken is
just you had two months. It became the equivalent of
the NBA and NHL playoffs, which we always bemoan are
(40:12):
too damn long. Literally a second season begins. Now I
understand we have to still bow to the theory of
the athlete student.
Speaker 5 (40:24):
See, I got it right there, there you go.
Speaker 4 (40:27):
We're trying to make that trend, trying to get the
hashtag athlete student athletes and winter breaks and the schedule
and finals and everything else. But the reality is you're
trying to build it into a must see everybody's involved
television event, and you stretch it out that far. Some
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games are on Thursdays and Fridays, the alternating Tuesday eventually
because hey, NFL doesn't have a game there, we're gonna
sneak one in there.
Speaker 1 (40:58):
Wait a minute, we gotta play it two on Tuesday
afternoon boy, True TV, just ahead of a marathon of Impractical.
Speaker 2 (41:06):
Jokers we had we had to move the game to
True TV.
Speaker 1 (41:10):
Sorry, yeah, Duke and North Carolina playing college and we
had to move the game. I mean, but outside of
that to me, but it was just that's the one
thing I can say. Everything else the playoff was great.
The one thing is it was just it was just
too long. Exit out about a Fresco exit swollen Dome.
The Jason Smith Show with my best friend Mike Carmon
coming up next. Another team today had a perfect day
with the head coach they hired in the NFL.
Speaker 2 (41:31):
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Speaker 2 (00:59):
Well. Big news that's come in. It's about fifteen minutes old.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
ESPN's Adam Schefter reporting the Cowboys have their new head coach.
According to Jerry Jones quote, he has been known as
a career assistant.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
Okay, that's always what you want to say. In a statement.
First thing about he.
Speaker 4 (01:17):
Wait wait, wait, you start with a strong thesis statement,
he's known.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
As a career assistant. Oh okay, that's great. Now you're
really not telling me on it quote. He ain't Brian
no more. He is now known as.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
The head coach of the Dallas Cowboys.
Speaker 5 (01:33):
He's legally changed his name.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
His name is no long ban head coach of the
Dallas Cowboys.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
Schottenheimer is now officially Brian Schottenheimer's name. He is the
new Cowboys head coach. A press conference coming on Monday. Again,
this news about fifteen minutes old. I'm sorry, Pete Carroll,
you got bumped to the lifestyle section. The Cowboys have
their new head coach, and as a man that was
so in demand across the NFL, zero people him to
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become their new head coach. Not the Jets, who interviewed
twenty people before they settled on Aaron Glenn. Not the Bears,
who I think that more than the Jets. I think
they were up at like twenty three before they said, oh,
the guy we're getting at the very beginning is our guy,
Ben Johnson. No, so just those two teams, forty three
guys they talked to just those teams forty three guys.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
Nope, No, Brian Schottenheimer.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
The Jaguars had a guy who said, I don't want
the job until you fire the GM. He didn't take it.
They fired the GM. That guy came back. Nope, nope,
no interview with Brian Schottenheimer. The Raiders said, hey, why
not get a guy? Why not go get Pete Carroll,
he's seventy four. No, I can't believe anybody's not let's
talk to me. No interviews with Brian Schottenheimer. This is
(02:43):
the Dallas Cowboys new head coach. This is who Jerry
Jones fired Mike McCarthy to go get longtime coordinator.
Speaker 4 (02:52):
Been through many a stop since beginning his coaching career
in nineteen ninety seven. An assistant with the Saint Louis Rams,
did a stint at Syracuse in nineteen ninety nine.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
Yep, so tied to you.
Speaker 5 (03:05):
He's a day younger than me. She got that going
for you.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
And then he was the OC with the Jets in
the in the big heyday with Rex Ryan It's and
that underperforming offense.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
He was the OC now, but.
Speaker 4 (03:17):
They got to to count him two AFC title games.
They haven't been back to the playoffs. Lett, I'd lead
with that look when I left. They haven't been back
to the playoffs since Bell.
Speaker 5 (03:30):
So you got that going for you.
Speaker 4 (03:32):
Stops at Georgia, the Colts, the Seahawks, the Jaguars, analysts
with the Cowboys indo offensive coordinator, and now.
Speaker 5 (03:40):
You're a head coach.
Speaker 4 (03:42):
Well, we always talk about and preach about continuity and consistency.
I guess the consistency is that Jerry is gonna be
Jerry and he's gonna give us gifts just like he
does today.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
I'll tell you what. I'm gonna double down. I'm gonna
triple out, quadrupleed it. This was a if this was
a poker show, I would quadruple. I would put all
my chips to the middle, and I would say, you
know why Jerry Jones fired Mike McCarthy. He didn't fire
Mike McCarthy because he underachieved. This is Brian Schottenheimer on
the same staff, right, same staff, same staff. I can't say, well,
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the head coach of it. But then when you see
the way the trickle down theory works in economics, it's
the same thing in the NFL. I don't really know
what that means, but it sounds good, like trickle down
sounds good. So we get and he looked where the
blamee goes, and the Blaine kind of slides to the
side of where shot he is, and I just, you know,
all the blame just kind of goes towards my McCarthy.
Did he fire Mike McCarthy because he underachieved or because
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when Dak Prescott got hurt, the Cowboys didn't quit. They
galvanized behind Mike McCarthy. They played better than anybody thought
they would. They played through till the end of the season.
When McCarthy got let go, Dak Prescott was upset, Michael
Parsons was upset. The two biggest leaders the Cowboys had said, yeah,
well we're really upset about this. So was he hired
(05:00):
because he'd lost, or was he fired because he lost?
Speaker 2 (05:03):
Or was he fired.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
Because he was becoming too big a voice in the
Cowboys locker room? He was challenging Jerry Jones, and Jerry
Jones said, well, you can't have that happen, So now
let me hire Brian Schottenheimer, who clearly is going not
going to compete with my voice for.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
The Dallas Cowboys.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
Now you said it last night, big hot take, Now
you think about it tonight. Why else why would you
fire Mike McCarthy or Brian Schottenheimer. If you fired Mike
McCarthy for Dion Sanders, I get it. If you fired
Mike McCarthy from Bill Belichick, I would disagree, but I'd
get it. There's guys I get right. Hey, we want
to do something big, we want to shake things up.
He wants to keep the headlines going. Okay, I understand that,
(05:40):
But Brian Shott, I mean, come on. I mean, look,
Schottenheimer is a pretty good assistant coach. Right now, I'm
going all Jerry Jones. He's a pretty good assistant coach,
and you know, by all accounts, everybody says good things
about him and a good guy, and the players like him.
But I mean, come on, man, I mean, this is
what you I mean. If I'm a Cowboy right now,
I'm like, I gotta get out of here. I'm Michael Parsons.
I said, no, do not negotiating a new deal. I
(06:01):
do not want new money. I will hit free agency
and I will go someplace else because I don't know
what the hell is going on here.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
But this ain't for me.
Speaker 4 (06:09):
Now, remember that, you know he's not really fired. They
fixed the glitch and they mutually parted ways. I feel
like I'm reading that book from the Harry Potter m
right where dude flies off with death at the end,
because that's kind of where we're at in this process.
I'm wondering if Jerry Jones might have learned a lesson
(06:30):
from back in the day of you know how things
happen when you ran players off instead.
Speaker 5 (06:35):
You know, the Chip Kelly era of Philadelphia.
Speaker 4 (06:38):
You were in division and you watched it happen, and
anybody that had a voice found their way on the outs.
So in this case, you've got players that load up.
And I still contend it might be. The other is
that they all played for Schottenheimer. He really want to
hurt stand up.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
We would have to stop. We would. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
Does Brian Schottenheimer pay you to say that? Because if
he paid, no, no, no, no, Evidently he is a contributor
to the thirty third team.
Speaker 4 (07:08):
So Jason Cole might have collected another check and getting
Shotenheimer a job here.
Speaker 5 (07:12):
I'll have to ask him next week about he.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
Said he's spamming everybody's email box on the thirty third team,
going Brian with all Shottenheimer's stats, like all like this
is where his offense is. Right, don't look at last year,
but the other years. Look at the other years. Where's happen? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (07:27):
The old thing bringing that up about is, you know,
the final weeks of the season, you got a guy
with the coordinator and whatever the language was, whatever the
the simplicity of the offense was, it seemed to click
down the stretch. They still played hard, and I agree
with you a lot of that was the heart and
integrity that they showed, and love of Mike McCarthy and
(07:49):
what he meant and knowing that you know he was
being scapegoaded for a bunch of it. But in the end,
you're the head coach and things had gone badly and
in the playoffs before, there's only so much you could say, Hey,
you know what pinned on the player here, pinned on
the player here? You know what this year was Dak's fault?
Oh and Dan Quinn over there, who's now at Washington.
(08:11):
We've talked about him a lot. I don't need to
bring it back up, but there's been a scapegoat all
along and now it's going badly and it's like, hey, Mike,
what's going on?
Speaker 5 (08:19):
When Dak was here, we weren't playing very well. Oh
it falls on you.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
Right.
Speaker 5 (08:24):
And so for Jerry and moving forward.
Speaker 4 (08:28):
His ego and we've seen it at every turn, talking
about you know, why would I hire a GM This
is why I bought the team. Perhaps the most damning
of all of the lines that he's given through the
year's most honest.
Speaker 5 (08:41):
I mean, other than.
Speaker 4 (08:42):
The soliloquy he had on land Man hanging out with
Billy Bob Thorton's company man, that's the most honest moment
Jerry Jones. Is he in front of a microphone, it's
my team. Why am I hiring someone else to do
what I want to do?
Speaker 2 (08:56):
Listen, I'm leaving.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
I'm not gonna really be running the Cowboys because I'm
a I'm a Hollywood star. Now I'm gonna go do
uh the nos Feratoo sequel and uh in in the
in the movie, I just I'm the big vampire, right,
and I just I go to New York and I
get the Mara blood and then uh, you know, I'll
go to uh, I'll go to Pittsburgh, I get the
Rooney blood. And I get all that, and all of
a sudden, I'm a big, bigger super vampire owner. And
(09:19):
then I get the godel blood and I can make
all the big decisions. I get all and suddenly I'm
just this big voltron of of of NFL owners. But
and that become the bigger, bigger guy to keep getting
bigger and bigger, like the like the more girl in
the substance, and I just keep getting bigger and bigger.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
All different heads.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
Keep popping out of me, and oh, that's a that's
the head, that's a rooney head, that's the mar head. Oh,
I gotta write this down. I could be in the
sequel to the Substance. Let me write that down to Okay, great,
So that's me. I'm a Hollywood guy now who wants
an autograph.
Speaker 4 (09:46):
You really are morphing into like this is now becoming
part of an alternate persona for you.
Speaker 5 (09:52):
Gotta be careful. Gotta be careful, just like split every
seven days.
Speaker 4 (09:56):
You gotta uh or I should say the substance every
every seventh, every seven days.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
But I'll know if I start going into Starbucks and
saying I'll have one of those Mocha latees and with
the almond milk, and because you know the almond milk
it's more healthy. I'm sorry, well my name is uh
oh I forget first. Just uh you know, just put
just put a star on it. I'll know that's mine.
Just put a big silver star on it.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
I'll know that's my.
Speaker 4 (10:23):
I think you should do that and see how long
it takes before someone in line behind you or someone
behind the counter catches on.
Speaker 5 (10:31):
Jerry Jones is kind of a big deal.
Speaker 4 (10:32):
We're having that whole conversation about show Hey and and
epay yesterday. Folks can find that conversation more audio and
filling in some of the blanks came out a little
earlier today. So that's fun. But the Jerry Jones h
now he's got Brian Schottenheimer. Don't call him a career
coordinator anymore.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
I mean the fact that he has to just think
about that.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
That that's the statement that came out along with Adam
Schefter's tweet that Brian Schottenheimer is a guy he was
known as a career assistant.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
But he ain't Brian no more.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
You gotta risk like he's he's having to tell everybody
you have to respect my choice as head coach, Like
everybody's gonna suddenly go oh wait.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
Wait, wait, wait, you know, hang on a second, hey guys.
Speaker 1 (11:12):
But yeah, he's really serious, you know, and he's right, Hey,
we got we gotta take a different look at this
and talk about how Schotenheimer's the best head coach in
the NFL when you have to, when you have to
defend your head coaching job right away, like what kind
of choice is that?
Speaker 2 (11:26):
I mean, I mean, I I.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
Don't really the Cowboys they're doomed to this wheel.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
It just it's just gonna continue to go and it's just.
Speaker 1 (11:33):
Gonna you know, they don't really get to the top
before they start going back down to the bottom.
Speaker 4 (11:37):
And it's not even like the helter skelter lyrics.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
Yeah, it's you know what it's not. It's not a wheel.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
It's more like the like the what do they call it,
the parts of a tank that they're really low to
the ground, like they did, like a wheel is round
and it gets up high to the top, but like
that whole but but like the wheel of a tank
just kind of goes straight and then it goes under
and back and comes up and goes straight. Like that's
what the Cowboys are. They don't even go we Hey,
we're at the top of the NFL. But on our
way back down, everything is the same. Everything has been
(12:05):
the same for the Cowboys going on thirty five years.
It's it's not gonna change. Yeah, I thought, you know,
for a second, when he's actually talking to Dion Sanders, Okay,
it's gonna be Dion and let's go. It's gonna be
a show. It's gonna be insane. But Deon's got great
cachet with players. Maybe he's the pied piper, and suddenly
I want to go play for Dion. I want to
(12:25):
go there and look at this team he's building. Look
at the roster he's built with Colorado in a couple
of years. However popular or unpopular it is. Look the guy,
you have no doubt the guy built a winning team.
He's got two of the top five picks in the
draft most likely. All right, you know that that I
get the But no, no, no, no, no, that was
just a little bit.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
That was a little bit.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
Now hey, okay, now, really we're going with Brian Schottenheimer.
Speaker 4 (12:45):
Now this one, for me, it really is Jerry Jones'
ultimate active defiance by putting out that statement by owing
everything he's announcing his new coach, but owing it all
to the rhetoric in the public sphere well as to
why Schottenheimer shouldn't be the guy. And now it's no, no, no,
(13:10):
you watch, it's gonna work. He's been here.
Speaker 5 (13:12):
We love him, he's our guy, and you don't love him.
Speaker 4 (13:17):
Continuous track caterpillar tread or tank tread the why then change?
Speaker 2 (13:24):
Let's go, Let's go tank tread.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
I like the caterpillar, Yeah, but people, I don't know
that people fit way as the caterpillar with a tread.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
Yeah, I think tank tread.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
People get the visual because now I'm thinking of some
kind of super caterpillar. Like it's in Transformers and suddenly
it's a caterpillar, but it transforms into it's an actual
caterpillar that transformed into a caterpillar piece of machinery that
transforms into an audible which.
Speaker 5 (13:45):
Later fights Godzilla and or Mathra.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
Yeah uh oh boy, like a like a like an
auto like at.
Speaker 4 (13:52):
The Septicon, Mathra Or matches it. It becomes a triple
threat match. Look, we gotta we've bridged a lot of worlds.
We've had Freddie versus Jason and all of these other things.
Why not do it here?
Speaker 1 (14:03):
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Speaker 2 (14:06):
What do you got Frostburg?
Speaker 3 (14:07):
Jason, raise your glass?
Speaker 2 (14:09):
Okay, hang on, Mike, raise your glass.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
I'm raising my die Okay, I'm raising my die.
Speaker 6 (14:14):
Coke What I never ever ever thought I would ever
say this. Okay, but sheers to you guys, knowing that
your teams are not the crappiest anymore.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
I would drink to that. Hang on, and even if
it's for one.
Speaker 3 (14:30):
Night, drink away. Oh no, no, no, you say a cowboy
fan or you know one, buy him a beer.
Speaker 5 (14:34):
We get out of your house, just for one day.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
I texted Fabiano right after it happened, Dude, you hired
Brian Schottenheimer.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
Nothing.
Speaker 3 (14:40):
He's gonna need a case of beer.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
I've got nothing back.
Speaker 5 (14:45):
I just send him another gift of Aaron Jones dropping
a fly ball.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
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Speaker 1 (16:46):
We search to get a head coach, but we really
didn't search that far. Fired Mike McCarthy just to hire
his Oh see, there's no one who interviewed him.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
It was just us, and.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
We talked to him twice and we hired him.
Speaker 3 (17:16):
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Speaker 4 (17:21):
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Speaker 1 (17:34):
Brian Schottenheimer the new head coach of the Dallas Cowboys.
We'll have more on that coming up in a few minutes,
but already the dominoes are falling, because as soon as
the Cowboys named Brian Schottenheimer their head coach, Ian Rappaport
NFL NFL dot com said, uh, the San Francisco forty
nine ers are hiring Robert Salah as their new defensive
(17:59):
and old defensive coordinator.
Speaker 2 (18:01):
He had interviewed in Jacksonville. Interview with the Cowboys.
Speaker 1 (18:04):
Jacksonville obviously got their guy because they fired Trent Balky
to go get him. And with this out of the Cowboys,
Sala apparently told John Lynch Kyle Shanahan, listen, if I
don't gland a head coaching job, I will come back
as a defensive coordinator.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
And here's the first time.
Speaker 1 (18:19):
Maybe it's positivity Friday, or we just used up all
the Oh my goodness, how ridiculous.
Speaker 5 (18:23):
You got a pretty good laugh out of that. You're
not side show, Bob cat Get.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
I gotta tell you, man, I'm gonna say something good
about Robert Sala for the first time and like, I
don't know, a year and a half. Uh, he'll be great.
He'll be great. Why Because I've seen him be a
great defensive coordinator. I've seen him build a great defense
with the San Francisco forty nine ers.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
I've seen his system.
Speaker 1 (18:47):
Work of forty five defensive lineman just rotating them in
and out. I saw his defense work in New York
when he was here. When you just put him in
charge of the defense, everything is fine. Some guys, Hey,
I'm a great DC, but oh.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
Can I can I build a culture? Can I do it?
Speaker 1 (19:02):
Not? Everybody is that kind of guy, which really honestly
tells you you don't need to just look at the
OC and the DC when you're looking for a new
head coach. Some guys are great coordinators, but they're bad
head coaches. Some guys are really good position coaches, but
they'd be bad coordinators, but they'd be great head coaches
because they know things about building a culture. But you know,
we default to the O c's and the DC's because
(19:24):
we think, well, they'll take this system that work, They're
gonna pick it up, bring it over, drop it in,
and it's gonna be great, except you know, we're not
bringing the players that we built this great system with.
Oh that's a little bit different story. But sala is
gonna be a great DC. I have no doubt in
my mind he is going to be a great defensive
quarterator because he did it before.
Speaker 2 (19:42):
He knows that.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
Look, I have to build my resume back up again
because now I've been in the club so now and
I'm looking at this offseason. Boy Pete Carroll got a
job again. Guys getting gigs, it's insane. So I know,
if I build my resume up and I get the
stink of the Jets away from me for a while,
hey maybe in a year or two, Hey my name
gets bad to the top, I build back this forty
nine Ers defense, and I can be back in the
(20:03):
mix of being the next head coach. And I've learned
a lot of lessons with New York and wherever I go,
I'm definitely not going back anywhere close to there, so
I can do things pretty well. I mean, there's no
other shoe to drop, there is no any other part
of this. He's going to do a great job as
a Niners defensive coidator. He's exactly what they need looking
for their return to glory coming off this really bad year.
(20:24):
There's gonna be a lot of up and down and
a lot of draft or turnover, so they're gonna need
him to come in. They can trust him with that
side of the football. This is a great move. This
works for everybody, works for Sala, works the Niners. No
fingers crossed hands by no every bahrman. This is a
good move for the forty nine ers and a good
move for Salt.
Speaker 4 (20:43):
Yeah, we'll go back to the Cowboys in a minute,
because they might be making a good move as well
in terms of who says you can't go home again.
But we look at the Peter principle in effect in
a lot of these cases, right, guys like Norvell Turner,
Wade Phillips, We keep going. There's tons of guys that
(21:05):
were good to great defensive quarter Steve Spagnolo, right, look
at him, how much we celebrate him right now? He
took bites at the Apple as a head coach, but
he goes down as a great coordinator for Robert Sala.
He's got the component pieces there that work right. Bosa's
under contract. Fred Warner came back from injury and was
(21:26):
flying around the field. You're looking at rebuilding that roster.
They'll get rid of some of the offensive components, as
you said, and shed some of the dollars and reconstitute things.
But he's done it before you get promoted to the
level of incompetence, is the Peter principal, Right, So you
(21:48):
go and you're above your head. You may have eighty
percent of the job down and locked in, but the
other twenty percent send you spiraling straight to hell as
if you were, you know, snowboarding down a mountain. Oh
that's where we're at in this process for Robert sala Yeah,
because look at what that defense did after he was gone.
And I bring up the Cowboys and defense because they're
(22:10):
evidently going to talk to Matt Eberflus, who worked there
under Jason Garrett a few years ago before becoming the
coordinator in Indianapolis and eventually the head coach of the Bears,
both the Bears and the Jets. What happened after those
guys got fired Salah and Eberfu's both their defenses struggled mightily.
Any principles, any cohesiveness that they'd had early in the
(22:32):
season were gone, and they scuffled the rest of the
season on that side of the ball. So yeah, go
back to where you made your bones, to where you
made your name. Does it build you back up to
where you necessarily get a second shot? I don't see
why it wouldn't, given what we just watched in this
coaching cycle, with New Orleans still pending, just a whole
(22:54):
lot of Hey, well, at least bring in to talk.
Can't promise see anything more than whatever's on the lunch
menu that day, but you could be one of our
many people that we talk to, because we'll steal at
least one or two good ideas from you before we
move on. But for Robert Sala goes back where he's
known in an opportunity in a division that's currently really
(23:15):
in flux. Right, A lot of questions about what Seattle's
roster will be. Is dk Metcalf coming back? Are they
mad at him? Is he going to get traded? We
talked about the Rams, Matthew Stafford, some of these veteran
components of the Rams, are they coming back? No, But
they got some young guys that'll be there a while.
A couple of guys nominated for defensive Rookie of the
(23:36):
year and then Arizona. Every time you think, hey, they're
making progress, they can't get out of their own way.
So the division's there for the forty nine ers with
a little bit of health and are restructuring just in
terms of attitude and getting back out of the off
season business that they had a year ago to go
back and reclaim that division, you know.
Speaker 1 (23:56):
Now, and this is the other part of for the Cowboys,
right if all of a sudden, hey, the band of
unsuccessful head coaches getting back together, is that like the
league the League of Extraordinary Gentlemen, the band of unsuccessful
head coaches is that. You know, we talked a few
minutes ago about how Brian Schottenheimer is not somebody that
interviewed with any other team for a head coaching job, right,
(24:17):
Like that's embarrassing, Like you you hired a guy that
literally no other team said, you know, maybe he's a
great leader, right, So that that's embarrassing.
Speaker 5 (24:25):
She should have floated it out that you denied people's requests.
Speaker 2 (24:29):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's what. Yeah, yeah he denied everybody.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
Really, Yeah, they talk to other teams, are like, yeah, sure, whatever,
Jerry says, I don't whatever.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
I don't care. But here's the other part of it
is that not only did that happen.
Speaker 1 (24:43):
Right, but unless I miss some clandestine meetings, the Cowboys
just after the fact said they held interest in Mike Vrabel.
They didn't talk to Ben Johnson, they didn't talk to
Aaron Glenn, they didn't talk to Liam Cohen, didn't talk
to any of these guys that got that got hired,
but especially Ben Johnson, Aaron Glenn, Mike Vrabel, who emerged
(25:05):
as the top three guys in this cycle. Right now,
we say, and I'm not saying all of a sudden,
the cycle is not great, right, but it's what we have.
It wasn't this bunch of teams that need coaches aren't
great teams. The guys that were out there were not
incredible over the top choices, but there's some level of
top choices. These were the three top guys, and the
(25:27):
Cowboys didn't talk to any of them, right Like they
had the one interview with Robert Sala that we knew about.
Oh my god, I'm talking to Robert Sala and we're
gonna talk to Kellen Moore and all young. Now it's
Brian Schottenheimer, Like like.
Speaker 2 (25:37):
I don't know. How do you walk out?
Speaker 1 (25:39):
How do you sit in a room and and and
find out this is our plan to hire a head
coach Unless nobody's in that room. It's just a room
with not the only one in the room. You know,
say you want to be in the room where it happens,
that's just my room. There's nobody else in the room,
not even on a conference call. There's a different room
down the hall where the other guy, Steven's in there,
other people in that.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
But but I'm in a room by myself.
Speaker 1 (25:59):
Like, how do you go through this and say, hey,
all right, do we want to talk to Ben Johnson?
Speaker 4 (26:04):
No?
Speaker 1 (26:04):
No, we want to talk to Aaron Glenn But no, no,
I don't want to do that. I want to talk
to fret No. No, don't want to do get rable
on a play. No, not gonna do any of that.
Like that's the other part of it. That's just why
the Cowboys are doomed to this reality that they've had
for the better part of thirty years, right, and nothing
has changed. Right, you know, Jerry Jones is the is
the one consistent guy through all of this. But you know,
(26:26):
I mean, so that's why it's not surprising, but just
the absolute facts to it that It's not like it
would have looked even better if Jerry Jones had said, Hey,
I talked to Ben Johnson, we talked to Aaron Glenn,
we talked to Rabel, we talked to everybody. I talked
to Belichick, I talked to all these guys. No, and
Brian Schottenheimer is our guy. Okay, you could disagree with
that obvious, I would still disagree. I'm not saying something
(26:47):
I would say, hey, I go, but at least I
would say, well, we talked to everybody. You exhausted and
and there's a happy medium between talking to the top
guys are talking to twenty five people like the Jets
and the Bears did, But at least do you You're
due diligence and showed like you actually made some sort
of of effort. Here. He seems like a teenager in
his room. That's just yeah, I'm gonna copy all this
(27:08):
stuff from my report. I'm just gonna cut and paste
off Wikipedia, my teachers. As lazy as I am. He's
not gonna know. It's gonna turn this report and it's
gonna be absolutely fine. Oh hey, who wants to play Fortnite.
Come on, let's get out, let's do it. I'll I'll
just cut and paste it later on that I'll change
a couple of adverbs and adjectives.
Speaker 2 (27:22):
It's gonna be awesome. Like is that? Is that how
this this.
Speaker 1 (27:25):
This search was made Like Jerry Jones knew all along,
this is how I'm doing it. Okay, here's da I'm
gonna announce it. I'm gonn announce it today and have
this like that.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
That's so.
Speaker 1 (27:33):
That's so on brand for the Cowboys and on brand
for Jerry Jones. I've never gotten to a point where
I said, boy, you know, I really I feel bad
for Cowboys fans, but wow, I feel really bad when
you have a certain level of excellence that you're used
to for your life and you keep thinking and banging
your head against the wall, going eventually it's gonna change, Right,
Eventually it's gonna change. And slowly the good times just
(27:53):
start to erode, and and you get to a point
where I can't even get excited because this is not
even an excite higher. It's not exciting for the players,
not exciting for the fans. It's exciting for the Schottenheimer
family and It's exciting for Brian Schottenheimer, very excited, but
this is not exciting for anybody. Like, I can't believe
I'm starting to feel bad for Cowboy What's wrong with me?
Speaker 2 (28:13):
Man? Is it because Friday is your positivity Friday? Like,
I'm starting to feel bad for Cowboys fans? What is
wrong with me?
Speaker 4 (28:19):
Did you hear sob stories from your dad about the
Yankees all day? Is that you know you broke you down,
took a little bit of your will and your soul.
It's like, hey, hey, celebrating it until Wow, this is
really broken my dad?
Speaker 2 (28:33):
Dude, you want you want a SOB story?
Speaker 1 (28:34):
I just spend the day sitting here going, we're really
gonna trade for Spencer Torkelsen to replace Pete Alonzo. So
I didn't have the best sports day, right, but I'm
still full of positivity Friday night.
Speaker 4 (28:44):
Once upon a time a guy that people were very,
very very excited about until they realized he couldn't field,
but uh, and then after that he couldn't hit fun
He had a.
Speaker 1 (28:55):
Really good twenty twenty three. Now, don't know what you
tell me. Don't ask me about the.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
Other two years.
Speaker 1 (28:59):
That's right about the here's book ending twenty twenty three,
but twenty twenty three was good.
Speaker 4 (29:03):
Anytime we can get the bookends in, we've won. How
about this the sell it to the Cowboys fans like
you were the White Sox and you were a mystery team,
so you might have really talked to these people, but
you just kind of slough it out after the fact.
Speaker 5 (29:19):
Oh yeah, oh yeah. We were kind of.
Speaker 4 (29:21):
In on him, kind of in on that as opposed
to now, if this was the plan, either we were
going to strong arm McCarthy to come back, or Shottenheim
or showed us enough around the building the last couple
of years as a consultant. And then, because that's the
other good move, right be it consultant, get into the room,
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convince them you're the smartest guy in the room, and
then they give you a.
Speaker 5 (29:45):
Big fluffy package to stay.
Speaker 4 (29:47):
On as a full time employee. It's good advice, it's
a good way to go. Not to mention again, member
of the thirty third team. And you know, Jason Cole
may have had a hand in this the whole an
hire myself.
Speaker 2 (30:01):
I'm gonna hire myself.
Speaker 4 (30:03):
I really I've looked up at all the uh the
things you're looking for in a cannon.
Speaker 5 (30:08):
Look at my resume. That's just point for point.
Speaker 1 (30:11):
This is like when when Corvin Burnson comes in Major
League two and that talks to about all the problems
going on.
Speaker 2 (30:17):
But I've solve some issues today.
Speaker 1 (30:19):
I activated myself coming out of retirement to play as
mung as you still, I'm hiring myself.
Speaker 2 (30:27):
All the problems are going.
Speaker 5 (30:28):
Away, Okay.
Speaker 4 (30:29):
I need to be in the room where it happens,
and I can affect change day to day. If I
just take my consultant check and walk away, I mean,
you may have some of the learnings, but you won't
have me.
Speaker 2 (30:41):
Man. I feel bad for Cowboy, but.
Speaker 5 (30:44):
Remember they haven't really been good for thirty years.
Speaker 2 (30:47):
I know.
Speaker 5 (30:47):
Now you now have salty Troy Aikman out there.
Speaker 1 (30:50):
Yeah, oh sure, sure, I can't believe him as the coach.
Speaker 4 (30:53):
Well, I was kind of hoping that that would happen,
that they'd hire Wittener, one of those guys that played
with him, and then suddenly Troy would come back as
a consultant, her coordinator himself.
Speaker 1 (31:03):
What I'm gonna do is I'm gonna have every week
is gonna be a guest Cowboy head coach past legend.
Speaker 2 (31:09):
Uh. Here's the schedule for the seventeen weeks.
Speaker 1 (31:11):
It's Troy week one, and at week two, Michael week three, uh,
and then week four. Then we get into the past
a little bit. Doug Cosby's gonna come in and coach for
a little while.
Speaker 7 (31:20):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (31:20):
Tony Hill is gonna coach. Tony Dorsett's gonna come in. Uh.
Speaker 1 (31:24):
And then you know, if things go better, we could
go back to Troy at some point. But then don't
forget Tony's gonna come in and coach a little bit.
Speaker 2 (31:29):
We're gonna have that. Soa the got.
Speaker 5 (31:32):
Forty nine ers Charles Haley, Yeah, I've.
Speaker 1 (31:34):
Gotta have that. That's got absolutely that's a good idea there. Now, see,
we already were through seven weeks. Now I got seven
weeks of coaches. Just gotta get eight nine weeks more
and we're gonna be good to go. Do you think
Dion's willing to coach for one week and then we'll
play it up where he has to coach against his
boy ha ha. Time now to find out what's trending
in the wide world of sports. But man who's been
(31:56):
called the Jerry Jones of Fox Sports Radio don't you
dare he he's the greatest guy in the history of
the world. It's Steve de Sager.
Speaker 8 (32:04):
I take great offense to that. Before the sentences even ended, I.
Speaker 2 (32:09):
Was gonna say, he has just as much money as
Jerry Jones. It's Steve Desager. That's what I would say,
just like that.
Speaker 3 (32:16):
Okay, I don't take offense to that. Let's move on.
Speaker 8 (32:19):
You mentioned the Cowboys the last thirty years. Now that
Washington's playing for the NFC title this weekend, literally every
other NFC team has been in the NFC Championship game
but Dallas in the last thirty years, which is just
astounding to think. Also, this longtime NFL reporter Ed Werder
saying tonight that the Cowboys have their new defensive coordinator.
(32:42):
It's Matt Eberflus from the Chicago Bears. He had been
on Jason Garrett's Cowboys staff a decade ago.
Speaker 3 (32:50):
Oh no, we really suck again.
Speaker 8 (32:52):
As we mentioned earlier, the Dallas Cowboys, it's official, are
promoting Brian Schottenheimer to head coach news conference on that Monday,
are hiring Pete Carroll as head coach. He did not
coach this past season after fourteen years with the Seahawks.
Carol will turn seventy four in September, so he'll be
the oldest head coach in the NFL history. He reportedly
(33:12):
gets a contract for three years plus a team option.
By the way, New Orleans the only one still with
a head coach opening in the NFL right now. Robert
Sala is now returning to San Francisco as defensive coordinator.
Speaker 3 (33:24):
That's official.
Speaker 8 (33:25):
The Texans fired offensive coordinator Bobby Slowick after two seasons.
Eagles quarterback Jalen Hurts is off the injury report after
last Sunday's bad knee. He'll likely wear brace this Sunday
against Washington for the NFC title. That'll be on Fox
TV three pm Eastern. Washington guard Sam Cosmi suffered a
torn ACL last Saturday night, obviously, he's out. In Philadelphia,
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defensive tackle Byron Young also out this weekend with a
hamstring injury. Buffalo safety Taylor rap is out with back
in hip injuries. The Bills are at Kansas City Sunday
in the AFC Championship. For late night men's college hoops,
there's a triple header Tonight's on FS one first number
ten rank Marquette beat Villanova eighty seven to seventy four.
(34:08):
Right now in Iowa, the Hawkeys with under eight minutes
to go lead Penn State sixty seven to fifty seven.
And in a half an hour on FS one Ucla
at Washington, it was a blowout. On Fox TV tonight
Top twenty five matchup at Purdue, boiler Makers led Michigan
twenty nine to nine after the first nine minutes ninety
one sixty four. Perdue takes this game. In women's college hoops,
(34:31):
number two South Carolina beat number five LSU NBA wins
for Memphis, Portland and Philadelphia, which ended a seven game
losing streak beating Cleveland one thirty two one twenty nine.
Speaker 1 (34:42):
Back to you, thanks a bunch STEVEA the Jason Smitzer
with Mike Harmon Love from the tyrech dot com studios.
Speaker 2 (34:48):
So there we go.
Speaker 1 (34:49):
Look, the Cowboys are just I mean, they can't get
out of their own way.
Speaker 2 (34:52):
But that's the Cowboys. I will have more NFL on
the way. We got to get to beat Carroll.
Speaker 1 (34:56):
But straight ahead, you want the most shocking colleg football
headline of the week.
Speaker 2 (35:02):
Wait, do we tell you what's coming up next? Jason
and Mike. You're listening to Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 7 (35:09):
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Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven
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Speaker 1 (35:20):
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Speaker 2 (35:39):
Videos on YouTube.
Speaker 1 (35:41):
We'll have more NFL head coaching news coming up in
about ten minutes. So we spent a lot of time
on Brian Schottenheim and the Cowboys. Pete Carroll is now
packing the NFL as a head coach. But I love
this headline from College Football today because really plays into
a big story that we just saw.
Speaker 2 (36:00):
Hit its apex with the national championship earlier this week.
Speaker 1 (36:04):
Vegas is getting the national championship in twenty twenty seven. Okay,
that's great. That's that's two years from now. Okay, no, great,
here's in Vegas. The national championship game will be played
on January twenty fifth, So if you were extrapolating that
to this week to this year, this means we still
(36:24):
wouldn't have played the national Championship. It would be tomorrow night.
We'd be playing the The college football National Championship will
be played the day before the final games in the
NFL leading into the Super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (36:39):
What are you still mad about your it?
Speaker 1 (36:42):
Hey, wait a minute, we're gonna the playoffs. Can expanse
your accuse is going to be there? Nah, it's a nude.
Speaker 2 (36:47):
We're a football school now, man, We're a football school.
Speaker 1 (36:51):
This plays into the old This is the only detriment
that the playoff. I had about the playoff this year
is that. And now likely they're gonna expand because you know,
they don't want to get to that sticky wicket of Hey,
can we really have a team go to a conference championship,
lose and not get in and instead we take a
(37:12):
team that didn't make it because they just didn't lose
that week, Like, that's a real sticky wicket. They're gonna
wind up having to take the conference championship finalists of
the four quote power conference, and I'd be Okay, if
they just did it for the Big Ten and the
ACC and the SEC, but they should do it for
all right, that certainly makes sense. So you're gonna wind
up having an expanded playoff if it's not this year,
(37:33):
by next year when this happens, and it's it's too long, right,
Like the college football doesn't quite have the star power
of the NFL, but even the NFL, you're playing games
every week and the end college football is trying to
find a way through the calendar and in December, in
January to play on nights where they can own the
(37:54):
night like they can own Thursdays or Fridays and not
have to worry.
Speaker 2 (37:57):
About competing against the NFL.
Speaker 1 (37:58):
And when it gets close to chriss, hey, we're ready,
we're chesty. We're playing on Saturdays. So but it's it's
just too long, and it's it doesn't need to be
that long. It certainly does not. You can have a
sixteen team playoff, right, And if you're you're doing it
with the calendar for this year, let's just say you
expand a sixteen you just start the playoff the week
(38:18):
after the conference title games. You have to you have
Army Navy and you have you have the first round
of playoff games. You kind of have to because then
as long as you play a couple of rounds before Christmas,
then if you're just going to spread out a little
bit the final two rounds, which are the semi finals
in the final, then we're okay because then you can
even spread it out and you're still crowning the champion
(38:41):
around January seventh or so, which is fine, right, I
think I think that's I think that's been a really
good sweet spot where, Hey, we were used to college
football ending on the first or the second. Now it's
pushed out to the seventh, and I think the seventh works, right, Hey,
we got the big games, the big bowl games are
going on, and all the excitement surrounding the other bowl
games and the semi final games. So you could still
(39:02):
do it and have the semis and the national championship
somewhere a little bit after Christmas and then and then
a little after New Year's right around anywhere between like
the fifth and the ninth of January. And I think
that works because this, quite honest, I'll tell you, it
was too long. It felt like we're waiting so long
to get to get to Notre Dame and Ohio State,
(39:24):
and it was just a little bit too long again,
nfls star Power. College football was lucky this year. Hey,
we had Notre Dame in it, but still it still
felt a little long, and they need to rectify that,
especially if now, I mean, look, come on, man, in
two really January twenty fifth, when we playing pretty soon
they'll be playing the National Championship the day before the
Super Bowl. Hey, back to back this weekend, Mike Carmon.
(39:44):
We got the National Title Game on Saturday and the
Super Bowl on Sunday.
Speaker 5 (39:48):
Let's go big weekend.
Speaker 4 (39:50):
Look, you had a decrease over ten percent in your
viewing audience, and part of that you can attribute to
the fact that while neither of the coasts were in,
so you got a little bit of that. But the
larger point I think that needs to be taken is
just you had two months. It became the equivalent of
the NBA and NHL playoffs, which we always bemoan are
(40:12):
too damn long. Literally a second season begins. Now I
understand we have to still bow to the theory of
the athlete student.
Speaker 5 (40:24):
See, I got it right there, there you go.
Speaker 4 (40:27):
We're trying to make that trend, trying to get the
hashtag athlete student athletes and winter breaks and the schedule
and finals and everything else. But the reality is you're
trying to build it into a must see everybody's involved
television event, and you stretch it out that far. Some
(40:47):
games are on Thursdays and Fridays, the alternating Tuesday eventually
because hey, NFL doesn't have a game there, we're gonna
sneak one in there.
Speaker 1 (40:58):
Wait a minute, we gotta play it two on Tuesday
afternoon boy, True TV, just ahead of a marathon of Impractical.
Speaker 2 (41:06):
Jokers we had we had to move the game to
True TV.
Speaker 1 (41:10):
Sorry, yeah, Duke and North Carolina playing college and we
had to move the game. I mean, but outside of
that to me, but it was just that's the one
thing I can say. Everything else the playoff was great.
The one thing is it was just it was just
too long. Exit out about a Fresco exit swollen Dome.
The Jason Smith Show with my best friend Mike Carmon
coming up next. Another team today had a perfect day
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Speaker 2 (41:31):
Wait a minute, the Raiders won. Yes, that's next.
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