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Well. Big news in the NFL tonight.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
Is a kind of a two prong conversation because wow,
and the other part of this is really bizarre. Mike
McCarthy let go or walked away or mutually decided I
don't want to be your coach anymore.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
I already got the cab coming.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
This contract was it no longer the head coach of
the Dallas Cowboys, Brian Schottenheimer is hired.
Speaker 4 (01:19):
He has announced he's going to sit.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
Out the rest of the twenty twenty five coaching cycle
and focus on getting a job in twenty twenty six. Now, again,
this would have been a more powerful statement if there
was more than one opening.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
Sounds like a divorce and I'm just I want to
work on me.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
I would say, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's just like
I don't like really, it's like, oh, now now that
it's the Saints and it looks like I might not
get the job or an interview, they'ven well, they were
scheduled to potentially talk to him this week, but they've
already talked to Kellen Moore twice and have not talked
to McCarthy. Right, I mean it's oh, yeah, I'm I'm
I'm a clue. I'm walking out of the cycle. In
(01:57):
other words, So, in other words, you're saying you're taking
yourself out of consideration for a head coaching job you
haven't interviewed for.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
So the party you were not invited to, you are
not going to. I'm not going to that. I'm not
going to Andrew's party and did you get invited?
Speaker 1 (02:10):
No, but I'm still not going not gonna go. You
shouldn't go either. It's not gonna be fun. The supermodel
you were not gonna be dating anyway. You say you
are rejected. Okay, got it. Ah, Now, look we've made
some fun we here with McCarthy in this statement tonight.
Speaker 3 (02:26):
There's a lot of meat on the bone there, this
great this guy. We know it's just a Perkins menu.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
I mean we know it's a bit of a way
to try to save face and a pr spin on.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
Well, you're not getting a job this we you pay
me for.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
How about we try we push it this way and say, hey,
you don't want to be considered for it? Ah, now
I will. Now there is a good portion for it,
I have to. You have good news for Mike McCarthy
is that with the CEO coach being in vogue, and really,
if he had been freed up at the end of
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the season, he would have been in the MIT reel
mix for more, for for more jobs.
Speaker 3 (03:00):
Because for the Bears, do you say they had a
quarterback established they.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
Brought him in right away. But it's like you've already
gone down the road with Ben Jonson. Mean, you had
to wait a week and that's a big week from
the end of the regular season until the following week
that Mike McCarthy couldn't talk to anybody. Nobody knew if
he was going to be around because you go down
the road with all these other guys, right, So it's
a big week that he didn't.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
Well, it wasn't at the Bears who requested, and then
the Dallas said no, And then it was a week
after the season. Then Dallas said, guess what, he's not
going to be coach here.
Speaker 4 (03:27):
Out, No you can't. Yeah, sure, I don't care.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
Yeah, now you can go ahead have all those jobs.
Oh really they're taking say okay, sorry whatever, we're not
paying you. So he is.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
The breed of what teams want now because it kind
of goes in cycles, right, we had the long push
of well, we want the next great offensive or defensive
system on a team, the next great leader of men.
You know, maybe this is a guy and we've kind
of seen it and it hasn't really worked. Right, Sometimes
it works, sometimes it doesn't. But there's no track record.
(04:02):
There was no way to know that. Hey, Kevin O'Connell
was going to be a better head coach than Robert Slip.
Both of these guys great coordinators, different sides of the ball.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
Need I remind you that Brandon Staley was the coordinator
of the number one defense in the NFL.
Speaker 4 (04:15):
He was terrific.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
Just had to stop going for it on fourth down
and then he became a head coach, just had to
stand will never see him as a head coach ever again.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
Right exactly, So you see teams that say, Okay, they
know that, all right, we're we think we like this guy.
Speaker 4 (04:29):
But it's a gut feel that this.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
Is going to be a coordinator that's going to run
a whole program and be successful. Whereas now you look
on the flip side and go, well, yeah, he's been
fired a couple of times. But Mike McCarthy knows how
to build a program. He won in chaos in Dallas
for three years.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
Can call his own plays. He only didn't win this
year and his quarterback got hurt. So even the Jacksonville guy,
Liam Cohen's going there because of the offense at Tampa
Bay this year, he's going to be calling his own plays.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
Yeah, I mean, look, McCarthy still kept the team together
and with Dak Prescott, they probably win more games. Right,
So this is the but they see him and he's
won a super Bowl, he's got a great track record,
he's built a program.
Speaker 3 (05:09):
Even the special teams is not bad.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
Right, It's just that's that's a trust factor that teams
have with the CEO head coaches. That's the best way
to describe them. So while it was too late for him,
I guarantee you this, he'll be the Mike Vrabel of
next year because there's not a lot of CEOs out
there that have been let go. They're going to get
back in the game. Bill Belichick is not getting back
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in the NFL. Right, Pete Carroll just got a job.
He's going to be the Mike Vrabel of next year.
Where a year from now, we're gonna look back and say, Okay,
who have been the hot coordinators, who's won he was
coach of the year. Who wants to leave college for
the NFL. But there's only one guy that's won a
Super Bowl as a head coach that recent success.
Speaker 4 (05:52):
There's only one Mike McCarthy.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
And Mike Rabel got snapped up really fast right that
the Patriots said, hey, ex Patriots, But let's have a
quick sham Rooney rule interview so we can get right
to Mike Rabel, right, because we don't want to lose him.
And Rabel was the first one off the board. The
SAME's gonna be for Mike McCarthy next year. With a
year away, he's gonna get more valuable. You'll be able
to vet him more. And with the with the absolute
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train wreck that the Cowboys are gonna be next year,
it's gonna be Wow. Mike McCarthy really deserves more credit
than he should have gotten. So he's gonna be the
Mike Vrabel of next year. I have no doubt he
will get a really good job next year. And it's
not the worst thing for him because all the job
openings this year are terrible, right, none of them are good.
Speaker 3 (06:33):
Raiders still don't have a quarterback. Oh so, even if
they draft a quarterback, their.
Speaker 4 (06:39):
Best quarterback is their owner. What does that tell.
Speaker 3 (06:42):
You their best quarterback is, Oh yeah, well he's running things.
You were thinking, Mark David, Absolutely I was, because I
see Tom Brady on television every week. He can't possibly
be an owner and the call it games for the
NFL as well, that they would never let that happen.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
You're talking about a controversy. Nobody cares, but like, look,
so he's going to be that guy next year.
Speaker 3 (07:03):
But they're protecting the shield. This will make the shield
better when the Raiders might actually have a competitive team
for the first time in twenty years.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
But the job openings are terrible and the coaches that
got the gigs. Look, Vrabel was coming. Look he was
elevated when normally he would be the fourth or fifth coach.
Speaker 3 (07:21):
But this year it's so bad, so bad passage of time.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
Ben Johnson should have been able to ride his ticket
anywhere he wanted to, but it felt like, boy, anybody
could have got him, and the Bears had to bit
against themselves to say, well, I think he's the guy
we want. But he sat out there for a little while.
Like I love Aaron Glenn. He's great for the Jets.
He played there. He knows what it's like to play
for Woody Johnson calls it his dream job. I want
anybody that says doing anything for the Jets is their
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dream job, because I know what they're going to put
into it.
Speaker 3 (07:48):
Has already dealt with the New York media for years,
and we saw this week but was he that great
a candidate or was he a great candidate? This year?
The openings were bad, The candidates were bad. Yeah, like
the first round quarterbacks that we're gonna wind up with it,
they won't be compared. I don't think Leicester's first round
quarterbacks now just some years are better than others now.
(08:09):
Knowing that, okay, think about this.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
Obviously, with what we found out, Mike McCarthy could have
talked to the Saints this week, but he didn't. Right,
so I'm gonna pull out of the cycle. Probably wouldn't
have gotten the job. Pulled out of the cycle. Cliff Kingsbury,
Commanders offensive coordinator, did a wonderful job this year. Jade
and Daniels opted not to pursue the Saints head coaching job. Okay,
(08:35):
Joe Brady, Bill's offensive coordinator, made the offense hum noes
to Von Diggs, Hey we're using more James Cook. Joe
Brady said I'd rather stay in Buffalo than interview than
interview with New Orleans a second time. And Aaron Glenn
who said, well, it's us or the Jets. The Jets
are a bleepman. You talk about train wrecks and Jets
are like eight train wrecks together, and he said, no,
(08:57):
I'd rather go to the Jets. Is there any the
Saints is the worst job in the NFL? Are you
at McCarthy, I'm pulling out of a job I might
not be considered for. Kingsbury says nope, I'm staying. Joe
Brady says, nope, I'm staying. Aaron Glenn, who was interviewed
with it left the Jets interviewed with Saints, said nope,
I'm going to the Jets. Like, is there any doubt
the Saints is the worst head coaching job in the NFL.
Speaker 3 (09:19):
And I know that it's usually awful teams that have
coach openings, but the group of teams that had coach
openings this offseason is kind of astounding in their collective awfulness.
Because the Raiders have been largely nothing for almost twenty
five years now, Jacksonville Patriots what they've become, and there's
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no light at the end of the tunnel with the
new England franchise. Let's be honest, what the Bears have been,
what the Jets have been, and what the Cowboys circus is,
and then the Saints. Those are your openings. I mean,
nobody in their right mind unless it's your first NFL
job is jumping at one of those j.
Speaker 4 (10:00):
No, because and and and think about it. Think about it.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
From this is that all these jobs that are open
barely had any reason to go there, right, Like, like
you went to Jacksonville because okay, maybe you know it's
still the Trevor Lawrence first NFL gave us a head coach.
We're ridiculously paying this guy. So Okay, Aaron Glenn played
with the Jets. Okay, Pete Carroll, Tom Brady loved him,
(10:23):
Mark Davis loved him. I gotta get back in the
NFL somewhere, all of these and still the Saints are saying,
we can't even get we can't even get somebody. I mean,
but what do they have to sell? Right, Let's say,
like you don't have a you don't have a star quarterback.
You have a stud running back, you have Krystal Love.
Hey we got Christal Love. That's awes good.
Speaker 4 (10:42):
Like what do you have?
Speaker 3 (10:42):
You had a few good games and you.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
Are and you are locked into car for another couple
of years like this is the Saints is the worst
coaching opening. And there they peaked, beaten the crap out
of the Cowboys week two. Like if you're doing the
end of the season NFL films, you know, and they
they give the replay of.
Speaker 3 (11:01):
The team's a good half hour always like all of.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
The highlights are from that game, Like it's like, hey,
week one the Saints and Week two the Saints improved
a two and zero, and it's all the highlights, and
then it's just a quick voice.
Speaker 3 (11:12):
It's like how the Falcons film is going to be Yeah,
and then it's a.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
Quick voice over of the rest of the season didn't
go that way for the Saints, but they're looking forward
to next year.
Speaker 3 (11:20):
There are NFL films, and what he's talking about is
there's a half hour film to preview the coming season,
essentially by looking back at the NFL films highlight of
your previous year. There's a half hour done on each franchise.
They're actually very entertaining to watch for these franchises that
are hiring coaches right now that we're talking about, I
(11:40):
guarantee six to nine minutes of the twenty three minutes
of the film is just talking about the new regime
and press conference highlights, because.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
We keep showing these depressing plays we lost games on. Hey,
look at the coach he's talking.
Speaker 3 (11:53):
Now, this is great, this way our opinions, guys, this
is the Bears game on Thanksgiving. Yeah, how many highlights?
The Raiders lost ten games in a row. That's two
and a half months of highlights that you're just throwing
in the trash.
Speaker 4 (12:07):
Do we need it?
Speaker 5 (12:08):
No?
Speaker 4 (12:08):
I don't any of the other games.
Speaker 3 (12:09):
Now, boys defense could not stop a fly. Well, what
are we gonna do? I don't know.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
Because the titles of all there's only three titles for
all these NFL films.
Speaker 4 (12:18):
They're back to glory.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
No, no, no, no no.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
There's call to glory. If a team wins the Super
Bowl for the first time, there's return to glory. If
a team had won the Super Bowl previously and won again,
or taking flight meaning hey you did this year, but
the future is bright like that's it. Like the Saints
would be taking flight. That would be the name of
the Saints won, everybody else would be taking flight, and
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the Chiefs and the or the Eagles would be called
a glory that would be what it is. Or no
return to glory since they've each won the Super Bowl before.
Speaker 3 (12:46):
You're right, the titles do fit what we're just talking
about it.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
I mean, I mean really, but I mean it's it's
now embarrassing. Like the Saints are the Saints are when
when the like if you put all the teams for
the for the uh that had openings right like it
was the playground after school. Oh yeah, and you were
choosing up teams. The Saints are the kid who knows, Okay,
I'm the worst one here, but maybe one of my
(13:11):
friends will pick me. I don't want to be the
last one. I'm gonna kind of stand in the corner
and pretend nobody's looking. And then it gets to the
end and nobody picks them. Well, you still need one
more guy. No, we'll play five on sex. We'll play
five on six. No, this is a Kate wants to play.
He wants to play it. No, But the Saints are like,
please don't notice the fact that we still can't get
a head coach and we're probably gonna hire Kellen Moore.
Speaker 3 (13:32):
That's exactly why I had a pee coach. When it
came down to the last few guys, he just assigned
people to teams. He didn't let there be a last pig.
These New Orleans Saints had been about five hundred or
least the last four years. And you might say, well,
that's kind of okay. This is my point. They're in
the most winnable division in football. Oh yeah, and they
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can't get double digit victories. And so even they are
coming well, not this year. Even they are a couple
of times in recent years coming down to the end. Hey,
they might actually get a home playoff game. They might
actually win this division. This doesn't look like a playoff team.
They might actually be in the postseason. But no, for
these four years in a row, they have not been
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in the playoffs. So Dennis Allen is not the coach anymore.
You have old Yeller, the special teams guy who became
the interim coach and couldn't stop screaming on the side. Yeah,
Rick is the guy who was the announcer for the
Mats the longest time, Darren Rizzy. And so that you've
got Dennis Allen formally announced as defensive coordinator of Chicago.
By the way, so this is yet another instance in
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NFL history the guy who coordinator is in his lane
and can succeed and a step higher than that.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
No, we look at the League of unsuccessful head coaches
getting new gigs.
Speaker 3 (14:48):
Right solid, all stop.
Speaker 4 (14:51):
You gotta give him a chance, Gotta give me a chance.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
Solos back to San Francisco. He says, we're the bleeping Jets,
and we're bleeping built for this. Now, all the Matt
Ebra flues, all the league of unsuccessful head.
Speaker 3 (15:01):
Coach gonna warre. You're saying that Brandon Staley is a
future defensive coordinator for the Los Angeles Rams.
Speaker 4 (15:07):
He is in a league of his own brand.
Speaker 3 (15:08):
He was barely there. I don't think here. We always
talk about anybody who had a handshake with Sean McVay.
He eventually, I'm not sure he shook the hand of
Sean mcv.
Speaker 4 (15:17):
When he was to shake his enemy fell.
Speaker 3 (15:19):
And he did that thing where they kind of pulled
a hand back really quickly.
Speaker 4 (15:25):
Exit out about a Fresca.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
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there is no worse opening obviously now in the NFL
than the Saint Sorry, Mae, you know what, hey mate,
Maybe Kellen Moore will be something coming up next. We
get back into the big NBA trade deadline that's just
about a week away. We had some big names thrown
out there. What player that's on the trading block could
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You know, so you say.
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VCU and Saint Louis.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
Oh man, the crowd tonight. Wow, you want to talk
about a viral highlight?
Speaker 3 (17:36):
Yeah. Look, it's more so than what went on in
the Ducon game last year.
Speaker 4 (17:39):
Oh yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
We had people throwing up on the floor and people
passing out at games.
Speaker 3 (17:43):
Last and getting carried out at Duke Lass. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
So it was kind of insane, although not quite what
we saw tonight on CBS Sports Network. Virginia Commonwealth VCU
was playing Saint Louis Big Game in the eight ten
Saint Louis wound up winning, which knocked VCU out of
first place. But with about a minute ten left to
go in this game, you've probably seen this. It's everywhere.
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Saint Louis I think hit a three to extend the
lead to nine points, and then with a minute left,
the game was delayed for ten minutes because a fight
broke out in the stands involving about a dozen people
that was right behind the VCU bench.
Speaker 3 (18:24):
Just a few rows out.
Speaker 1 (18:25):
Here's some of the play by play from that. Again,
it's not on the court. This is fans, about a
dozen of them are fighting behind the VCU bench.
Speaker 3 (18:37):
Ah.
Speaker 4 (18:39):
Oh, that's a hell of a fight right there. It
was a little bit more than that. It's a little bit.
Speaker 3 (18:46):
Well what's going on.
Speaker 5 (18:47):
Though, we don't often see this in college fastball, but
there is a heck.
Speaker 2 (18:53):
Of a brawl going on in the stands.
Speaker 3 (18:55):
Wow.
Speaker 5 (18:57):
The police officers and the security have come over and
trying to help out, almost immediately to slow it all down.
Speaker 3 (19:05):
Just an ugly hand into a really good game.
Speaker 5 (19:06):
Yeah, it's terrible.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
You know.
Speaker 5 (19:14):
The all the players are looking up, the coaches are
looking up. People have their cameras out, which in this
day and age, is not a shock.
Speaker 4 (19:20):
By the VCU bench.
Speaker 5 (19:23):
Oh they're really having a tough time. They really are
having a tough time of making sure that this is stopped.
Once it started piling on on the stairwell, it was
hard to deal it back. My goodness of no place
for that in college basketball on any sports venue for
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that matter at all.
Speaker 3 (19:50):
Good good showing by Saint Louis.
Speaker 2 (19:52):
Want to make sure we end this with class.
Speaker 5 (19:55):
Yeah, it's it's never really that.
Speaker 4 (20:00):
I mean this, Okay, there's a bunch of things from
this fight.
Speaker 3 (20:06):
There's a lot of batman punches in the background.
Speaker 1 (20:10):
Paw is waiting to hear the Liam Cohen duvall Uh
first of all. Okay, VCU and Saint Louis like, is
this that big of a rivalry that you can fight?
I mean, I you can fight anywhere. This is not
Raiders and insert team here. This is VCU and Saint
Louis like, you got that, you got that fired up
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over the end of this game when St.
Speaker 3 (20:34):
Louis has had great attendance for many years.
Speaker 4 (20:38):
No, I get it.
Speaker 1 (20:38):
But why this is you know, this is not Auburn Alabama.
Speaker 4 (20:42):
You know this is.
Speaker 3 (20:43):
A minute Togo, It's not a twenty point blowout.
Speaker 1 (20:48):
Okay, Uh the other thing that shocked me, and you
heard the play by play guys talking about it. There's
a lot of people involved in this fight and it
ranges all over and they couldn't continue to play the
game because the fight was going on very close to
the VCU bench, so they moved the players off the
bench and they took about ten minutes to figure this out.
I'm watching him going, there's only a couple of security
(21:10):
guards here, like like where like this? Where is everybody?
Speaker 3 (21:14):
It's someone's minimum wage job. Who's a sophomore at the school?
Oh boy, I have to go to the bathroom. You guys,
don't wake it up? Do I get credit for this?
Speaker 1 (21:23):
I mean, I'm watching this and I'm going, where's more
security running from somewhere to come help?
Speaker 4 (21:29):
Because the security's overwhelmed.
Speaker 3 (21:30):
Some people were pulled down, like go from row three
to row two.
Speaker 1 (21:34):
Like the one guy, the bald guy in the blue
shirt is able to walk up to the and screaming
and putting up four fingers and yell where is where.
Speaker 3 (21:43):
Is the guy? That's a guy that has to get
kicked out first?
Speaker 4 (21:46):
But no, he's just like.
Speaker 1 (21:47):
Kind of leaving on his own and I'm like, what
what is going on? Where is the security here? Like
where I mean this, this huge fight breaks out. Okay,
I get that maybe there's only a couple of guys
there because that's where but when that happens, Okay, let's
get security over here.
Speaker 4 (22:00):
We have a fight over here.
Speaker 3 (22:01):
Yeah, the visiting team was in the huddle when this
is going on, and they actually stopped talking and stop
listening to the coach, and every backs out and starts
looking five to ten rows up and then the game
is delayed. I repeat, this is late in the game,
about a minute to go, and it's only a six
point difference at the time.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
Oh tell you know, you know watch this. Mike Ruschefski's
gonna have a big statement tomorrow. See, this is why
we need to stop people from storming the court and
everything else.
Speaker 4 (22:24):
I know, I don't coach anymore, but.
Speaker 3 (22:28):
Be good time.
Speaker 1 (22:29):
Considering what happened at Duke, Well, well, you know, a
guy getting sick and throwing up is not you know,
no one storms the court for that. Yeah, well it
was just a player. That's a way to keep them
off the court. Well he's throwing I'm not running on there.
Speaker 3 (22:41):
Somebody was completely I mean, if they'd been on the ground,
would have been dragged out of Cameraon indoors, somebody was
completely out in the stands, like four people grabbing all fours.
You take a wrist, I'll take an ankle. And some
completely carried out. Some people really, if I can use
air quotes, loved the way the ESPN cameras just stayed
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on the completely out of it student. I assume it
was as they went all the way down the sidelines
and out, like they didn't veer away from that shot,
in fact, zoomed.
Speaker 1 (23:12):
In a little bit. And let's keep watching an embarrass
this person. And now we'll show Cooper Flag. All right,
go back to Cooper Flagg. Let's have his stats for
the night. And there she goes, can't short about Cooper Flag.
I'll tell you what a player.
Speaker 3 (23:22):
So there was just normal college basketball on FS one
earlier tonight as ninth rank Marquette down ten late first half,
still got to win at Butler. And have you noticed
Saint John's basketball is a thing.
Speaker 1 (23:36):
Now, you know, I got to say a couple of
things about that really fast before you get to what's trending,
is that there is a there is a fifteen year old,
a ten to seventeen year old part of me that
is incredibly happy because Saint John's is my team growing up,
right when I grew up in New York, Like, Saint
John's was who you rooted for in college basketball?
Speaker 3 (23:55):
Oh, City of New York.
Speaker 1 (23:56):
Yeah, because on Staten Island is where Saint John's campus
is in Staten Island, Queens, So it's kind of split.
So half the student body goes to Saint John's on
Staten Island, the other.
Speaker 4 (24:05):
Half goes to Queen's.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
I've never heard that the basketball team plays in Queens, right,
And Saint John's was the team. And when I was
growing up, it was Chris Mullen and we went to
the Final four and it was oh my goodness. I mean,
I'm a Saint John's fan from a little kid. And
then I go to Syracuse, I'm like, blank, you Saint
John's baby my team. No, but there's a soft spot.
And look, anybody who beats Georgetown, I'm gonna be your
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best friend. But maybe maybe Rick Patino can still coach
a little bit here. Maybe maybe you can still maybe
you can bring in a couple of guys and transfer
maybe Rick Patino, because this is gonna be a team
that's gonna I mean, they're gonna at the end of
this week with some of the upsets, they're gonna be
knocking on the door of the top ten.
Speaker 3 (24:43):
They were ranked fifteenth going into tonight's game. Saint John's
led it Georgetown after eight minutes twenty three to three.
The final was sixty six forty one. Georgetown shot twenty
five percent from the floor for the game. And you
brought up the name Chris Mullen, which reminds me of
one he had his jersey retired with the Golden State Warriors,
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who announced today they will retire the number nine of
Andre Iguodala on February twenty third.
Speaker 1 (25:11):
Yeah, you know, I'm glad you brought that up because
I feel like, yeah.
Speaker 3 (25:17):
How is this happening? You're saying, I mean, the guys,
if two people vote NBA Finals MVP the other way
for Lebron, this isn't a news story today.
Speaker 1 (25:27):
This doesn't happen you win NBA Finals MVP. They they
could have won it without you. I mean, you did
have a big series, and I get it, but I mean,
you don't get your jersey retired just because of that.
Speaker 4 (25:38):
You'll get sure it just go hey fight.
Speaker 1 (25:40):
No, that's great, and that's honor you and honor the
team everything else. But come on, man, this is I mean.
Speaker 3 (25:44):
Like, apparently Jalen Brown's jersey is already gonna be retired
by Boston Celtics after that great postseason he just have
and they won.
Speaker 1 (25:53):
Then have Porzingiss jersey retired because he had a great
first couple of games before he got hurt. He was
on track to be the end be a finals MVP.
I mean, Revy, I mean, you have so much You're
gonna retire Steph's jersey. You're gonna retire Clay's jersey. You're
gonna retire Draymond's jersey. Right, You're gonna retire. You're gonna
retire three jerseys in the next two years. No, no,
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look at what they have now had two finals MVP
Juwan Green's gonna walk up and rip that thing off
the wall.
Speaker 3 (26:22):
You're not retiring that jersey. It's not the standard is
win one finals? MVP Durant won it back to back years.
Speaker 1 (26:29):
What Sean Livingston gonna get his jersey retired next? I
mean he had say they won their first.
Speaker 3 (26:33):
Time you thought about all your finals MVP league wide
the last forty years, probably the one you'd say would
be at the bottom of the list of forty would
be Andre Iguidala, right because even like a one year
wonder with the Raptors, there's great respect for the talent
of Kawhi Leonard and the career went healthy that he's had. Iguidala,
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he hasn't sniffed ten points a game for his total career.
Now look, now, the thing is is that if you if.
Speaker 1 (26:59):
You want the State Warriors, right, no, no, if you
talk about Ai, we call him a I. If you
talk about him in the pantheon of NBA Finals MVPs,
he is surrounded by Hall of famers, right because it's
it's Jokichen Curry and Jannis and Lebron and Kawhi and
k d. I mean, it's Novitski and Kobe, Like, these
are the guys winning, and you gotta go, well, you
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want to look for a guy that's not quite a
Hall of Famer like that, You're like, okay, You're going
all the way.
Speaker 4 (27:26):
Back to saying well.
Speaker 1 (27:27):
Chauncey Billups was NBA Finals MVP consideration two thousand and four.
Speaker 4 (27:33):
But generally, if you're a you're a great player.
Speaker 3 (27:35):
Didn't Dennis Johnson make the Hall of Fame eventually and
that was the finest, So pretty much anybody.
Speaker 1 (27:41):
I mean, you're already back in like nineteen seventy eight
with Dennis Johnson, you know, I mean, I mean you
really you have to go with Chauncey Billups and Tony
Parker like that. Okay, great, but Tony Parker at least
was a lifelong Frederick Max was a big starling eighties. Yeah,
I mean, I I really, andre I get andre Igwadala
was inb fine, but come on, you're retiring this jersey?
Speaker 3 (28:02):
Come on, man, I mean real next month, like it's
already I don't think I know that.
Speaker 1 (28:06):
The war is just saying, look, we're done winning. We're
not going to title anymore. So let's have give reasons
people to come out and see. You know, we can't
we can't, we can't guarantee we're gonna even make the
play in this. So let's retire as jersey.
Speaker 3 (28:17):
Come on. See the Lakers standard is when Jamal Wilkes
finally got into the Hall of Fame. Okay, retire the jersey.
Michael Cooper into the Hall of Fame. You're in the
Hall of Fame. Retire slightly higher standard than he had
a good week and a half and got to vote
seven votes to four over Lebron for Finals MVP.
Speaker 4 (28:35):
Really good, I know, but a really good week and
a half.
Speaker 3 (28:40):
We're retiring as Jersey.
Speaker 2 (28:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (28:41):
Actually, people will say, wait a minute, you mean Steph
wasn't Steph was like twenty five points a game. I
get that serious.
Speaker 4 (28:48):
I guarantee you.
Speaker 1 (28:48):
When they told him that they were going to retire
as Jersey, Uh, he said, Okay, who's who's pranking me?
He's calling all his friends. Dude, did you have somebody
pretend to call me from the war by retiring my jersey? No,
what he's talking about, I'd find it's probably somebody else
and he's just making all that. Oh no, no, it's legitimately. Okay,
get my jersey resign. Okay, then, yeah, I didn't. I
put me in the camp of those who didn't see
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this coming. Yeah, I'll just leave it.
Speaker 3 (29:12):
You know, we've got a minute before the trending update.
Can I mention the trend of how things are going
with baseball with starting games earlier in the evening and
the games themselves not lasting as long as they used to.
Major League Baseball made sure to point that out that
here are the exact statistics. If you go back only
four years, it was forty percent of the games on
weeknights started before seven pm your local time seven pm.
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This coming season, it's over sixty percent of the weeknight
games are going to be starting before seven pm. Now
that includes that day game on a Wednesday where the
team is going to be on a flight afterwards. But
the actual time of the game, of course, compared to
four years ago, and all the rules changes, especially the
last couple of years, have made the game shorter. We've
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gone from the average of three out or is ten
minutes for a Major League ballgame to two hours thirty
six minutes this past year. So if you start a
game at say six forty local time, and the game
is going about two forty on top of that instead
of three to ten, that's a massive difference for a
family going to a game, or anybody with youngsters, or hey,
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I got to get up in the morning for my
job or for a school class or any of that.
Baseball is I'm amazed considering how leaderless they are, how
how well they're doing in these two areas in recent years.
Speaker 1 (30:31):
Yeah, I mean the game's gonna end at nine to twenty, wow,
nine to one, just get ready for primetime television.
Speaker 3 (30:37):
I cannot tell you how many Dodger games I went to.
They would start at seven eleven PM and go till
close to ten thirty. Be ooh, you got out, And
that's before you even walk to your car trying to
get out of that park.
Speaker 4 (30:48):
And then Clayton Kershell wanted the game to begin at
seven eleven.
Speaker 3 (30:52):
That's right, that's when his theme song would be playing.
And it doesn't matter if your seats, you're in, your
seats are done.
Speaker 1 (30:57):
We got more coming up in ninety seconds. But first,
as you've said, he's got what's trending in the wide
world of sports.
Speaker 3 (31:02):
Let's start with the NFL news is Washington Commander's offensive
coordinator Cliff Kingsbury will stay with the team. New Orleans
gave Kellen Moore a second interview last night, and shock
Mike McCarthy had not been interviewed by the Saints, so
he will not be coaching this offseason. He says. The
Cowboys hired Matt Eberflus for defensive coordinator. He had been
Bears head coach Mike Zimmer will likely retire. Chicago formally
(31:23):
announced Dennis Allen as its defensive coordinator. Detroit's new offensive
coordinator is John Morton, who is only with Denver for
one year. The Raiders reportedly interviewed Darryl Bevell for offensive coordinator.
He worked for Pete Carroll in Seattle. Baltimore is hiring
Chuck Pagano as secondary coach. The Browns say they're not
interested in trading away defensive end Miles Garrett. He's been
(31:44):
a First Team All Pro four times. Last Sunday's AFC
Championship game drew over fifty seven million TV viewers, breaking
last year's record for an AFC title game. Ratings for
this the way they measure at date back to nineteen
eighty eight and impressive number. Sunday's NFC Title game got
forty four million viewers. And yes, the Eagles have chosen
(32:05):
to wear their home green uniforms for the Super Bowl
as the designated home team they can choose, so Kansas
City will wear the white jerseys. Philadelphia cannot wear its
alternate jerseys, so no Kelly Green, just dark green. The
Super Bowl will be indoors in New Orleans if the
lights are on a week from Sunday on Fox TV.
Reliever Kirby Yates pasted is physical and we'll sign with
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the Dodgers on a one year, thirteen million dollar deal.
He was an All Star last year with Texas. Yates
turns thirty eight in March in the NHL's late game,
Dallas in overtime one at Vegas four to three, Buffalo
a seven to two winner over Boston. Victories for the
Islanders in Winnipeg. Washington won three to one at Calgary,
victories for Carolina and Chicago to college hoops wins for
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Michigan State, Texas A and M Saint John's and Louisville.
Kentucky won at Tennessee seventy eight seventy three ninth rank
Marquette won at Butler seventy eight sixty nine in a
I'm Back and at number eleven Kansas Jayhawks eventually held
off UCF ninety one eighty seven, and the WNBA Phoenix
is acquiring Alyssa Thomas from Connecticut. She's finished top five
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for MVP each of the last three years. Britney Griner
is moving on from Phoenix, agreeing to a deal with Atlanta.
The Sacramento Kings are reportedly open to trading d Aaron Fox.
The league's trade deadline is February sixth. He's due to
be a free agent in just over a year. NBA
All Star Game reserves will be announced Thursday. The league
announced the dates for nine rescheduled games. All will be
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in March in April now due to the recent postponements
in LA and New Orleans. The NBA Draft in late
June will be held in Brooklyn again and it will
be a two day event again for two total rounds
LaMelo Ball of Charlotte is out Wednesday with a spring day.
Cole Chicago Zach Lavine out for personal reasons this week.
Boston's Jason Tatum is questionable with the knee injury. Kevin
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Durant questionable for tomorrow with a thumb injury. Steph Curry
was out at Golden State tonight with a bad knee.
He shot four seventeen from the floor over the weekend.
Golden State did win without him against Utah one fourteen
to one oh three. The Jazz have lost seven in
a row. Atlanta lost its sixth straight game. Houston beat
him one hundred to ninety six. Trey Young did return.
He missed last night's game with the sore hamstring. Young
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for the Hawks tonight nine assists and eight turnovers. Portland
upset Milwaukee. Philadelphia beat the Lakers Tyrese Maxi forty three points.
Anthony Davis of LA left with an abdominal strain.
Speaker 1 (34:26):
Now we'll get to the big NBA trade trade block
story in a second. I want to tell you this.
You want to you want to story. I have a
story about John Morton. Really it was now taking over
for Ben Johnson as the Lions in Detroit, Oh See.
I coached his daughter in softball for a season. No,
and she was really good.
Speaker 4 (34:43):
She could hit.
Speaker 1 (34:44):
She was really good. Her first basement outfielder. She could
really hit. No, she was good. She's a good player.
She's anymore. What do you mean, not anymore? You coached her.
I made her the player she is today. I've made
her that player. She's a supers and Mets baseball we
all know. No, you know the funny thing is when
when because she came to the team, and and John
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Morton's wife called me to say, hey, my daughter plays
you know.
Speaker 3 (35:07):
To be confused with Johnny Morton before, who also played
for the for the lines. No, this is John Morton.
Speaker 1 (35:13):
And and the funny thing is, I said, okay, you
know she's coming, Yes, you can come to practice. Great here,
I'm excited to tell me a little bit about her
everything else. And she sell, yeah, my husband's coaches the NFL.
I said, oh, you know who is he? And she says, oh,
it's John Morton. I go, oh, he was a Jets
offensive coordinator and she goes yeah.
Speaker 3 (35:30):
And I was like, oh, I guess we don't. We
don't talk about the.
Speaker 1 (35:33):
Jets of first last time, I said, I won't tell
you the Jets are my team. She goes, yeah. But
there it's a wonder that's a wonderful family right there.
I mean she was great. The mother was great. She's
a really good player.
Speaker 3 (35:44):
She could hit.
Speaker 1 (35:46):
It was a lot of fun. Uh hey again, I
make players good. I make them good. Coming up next, Yes,
we have a big final statement to make because the
Dodger's got another big star tonight.
Speaker 4 (35:56):
And we'll tell you what.
Speaker 1 (35:57):
Could be a big move coming up the NBA trade deadline.
Jason Smith deep Sager, Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (36:07):
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Speaker 1 (36:17):
Sports Radio The Jason Smith Show with Steve desagerin from
Mike Harmon, Hey, Steve, we'll get to the big Dodgers
news in a minute. But you know, we talked a
lot tonight about the NBA trade deadline coming up, and
now we know that the Aaron Fox is on the
board for the Kings. He wants to be traded and
his preferred destination is the Spurs, which is like, wait,
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what his preferred destination is the Spurs.
Speaker 3 (36:43):
So he's picking a young star to be on that rush.
Speaker 1 (36:46):
He is and even though he's going to be a
free age right, he's been a league not this summer,
but the.
Speaker 3 (36:50):
Next summer he will. And by the way, last summer
he turned down a contract extension offer, so his days
are numbered in Sacramento.
Speaker 1 (36:56):
The fact that that's his preferred destination tells me he
wants to sign their long term and he wants to
be part of that solution there. And I'll tell you
if they get him and don't have to give up Castle,
because Castle is a phenomenal young player I pick this year.
I told you that he's the guy I take number
one combo guard. He can, he defends really well, like
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he is so good and and now in anybody's estimation,
he's you know, in the rookie rankings, he's now the
second best rookie. I okay, great, he'll be the best
guy for how he'll have the best career of anybody
if they don't have to give him up, and they
probably don't because you want to make the money move.
You know, Vassil is a guy that you can you
can trade with that. If they are able to get
dearon Fox, they will be a top three team in
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the West by this time next year, if not sooner
with Wenby by the end of this year, he'll be
the best player in the NBA and he'll be widely
viewed as that you're talking about a year from now
with a guy that's that dynamic, who is all.
Speaker 4 (37:52):
NBA two years ago.
Speaker 1 (37:54):
Yeah, the Spurs will be in the top three of
the Western Conference, maybe even better within a year.
Speaker 3 (37:58):
And before you think that's hyperbole, who are the top
three teams in the West right now? A young Houston team,
Memphis which didn't have John Morant for a lot of
this year would still be the three seed if things
ended right now. And Darn Fox has put in his
time in this league at this point. I know, I
don't think he's closed. He's still here a couple of
years till he's age thirty. But this guy is twenty
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points a game for his career and he wasn't like
scoring like this as a rookie. So even with the
down numbers to start his career, he's still over twenty
points a game as his career. That would be quite
an addition to a Spurs team that is already getting
Victor wibin Yama, that added the veteran at point guards
so key for the roster makeup and Chris Paul this year.
Speaker 1 (38:40):
Yeah, I mean, look, you talk about the Rockets. What
got them from the bottom up? Hey, we went out
and solidified Fred van Vliet and now look where they.
Speaker 3 (38:47):
Are and a lot of youth, a lot of draft
point the draft picks that have worked. I mean Aman
Thompson with the winner last night, and then we've seen
Jalen Green and he gets the highlight reels all the time.
Speaker 1 (38:59):
Now, you talked about big additions and it was finalized tonight.
I mean, we heard about this last week, but there
needed to be some tea's cross and ies dotted, you know,
physical had to be approved. But the Dodgers get Kirby
Yates for one year and thirteen million dollars. He's one
of the best relievers in baseball last year, kind of
a late bloomer, right, didn't really make it up until
he was twenty seven from Hawaii.
Speaker 3 (39:20):
He's like thirty seven years old for this coming season
in a row, oh thirty seven, now he'll be thirty eight.
Speaker 1 (39:26):
Yeah, but you know, for one year, thirteen million. This
is just the latest signing for a Dodgers team that
has gone You thought last year was was was incredible.
What they've done this year. I mean, look, I'm only
going to go back to you know, nineteen eighty. Let's
just say when I started watching, you know, really watching
all baseball all the time, and there's no team on
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paper that's been better, no better roster, no better team
than the twenty twenty five Dodgers. This is the best
team on paper that I have ever seen. The way
that they have guys that can close, you know, for
the team this year, right, they have they can go
now seven deep starting pitchers without Clayton Kershaw, and suddenly
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it we're fine. Like I saw this article on ESPN
earlier today, somebody said, hey, you can make two playoff
teams out of the Dodgers roster. That's how good it is.
Like you go the ninety eight Yankees, who were phenomenal teams,
the eighty four Tigers. Like I'm going back. There's not
been a team with a better roster that I've seen,
and on paper because I haven't played the games yet,
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but nobody's been better than this Dodgers team that I see,
it's not even close.
Speaker 3 (40:33):
You mentioned the eighty four Tigers. They had one pitcher
that won seventeen games, another that won eighteen, and Jack
Morris won nineteen. And that lineup that they had included
Kurt Gibson homering in the clinching World Series game they
had against the Padres. That was four years before his
big home run in a World Series.
Speaker 1 (40:50):
In a Dodger year, they started out like what like
thirty four and four that year or something.
Speaker 3 (40:55):
Crash and while Hernandez Young as a reliever and they
had that same middle infield with Whittaker and Trammel four years.
So that was a good rush.
Speaker 1 (41:04):
And the Dodgers' lineup is still better than that. I
mean really, I mean I've got to prove it.
Speaker 3 (41:08):
I still wonder what they're doing to themselves. Putting Mookie
Bets at shortstop? Does that make your offense better? I'm
not sure about this.
Speaker 1 (41:15):
They're going every game eleven three. What does it matter?
They have foreclosers. Now for Steve, I'm Jason my buddy
Ben Maller coming up next.
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Well. Big news in the NFL tonight.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
Is a kind of a two prong conversation because wow,
and the other part of this is really bizarre. Mike
McCarthy let go or walked away or mutually decided I
don't want to be your coach anymore.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
I already got the cab coming.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
This contract was it no longer the head coach of
the Dallas Cowboys, Brian Schottenheimer is hired.
Speaker 4 (01:19):
He has announced he's going to sit.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
Out the rest of the twenty twenty five coaching cycle
and focus on getting a job in twenty twenty six. Now, again,
this would have been a more powerful statement if there
was more than one opening.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
Sounds like a divorce and I'm just I want to
work on me.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
I would say, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's just like
I don't like really, it's like, oh, now now that
it's the Saints and it looks like I might not
get the job or an interview, they'ven well, they were
scheduled to potentially talk to him this week, but they've
already talked to Kellen Moore twice and have not talked
to McCarthy. Right, I mean it's oh, yeah, I'm I'm
I'm a clue. I'm walking out of the cycle. In
(01:57):
other words, So, in other words, you're saying you're taking
yourself out of consideration for a head coaching job you
haven't interviewed for.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
So the party you were not invited to, you are
not going to. I'm not going to that. I'm not
going to Andrew's party and did you get invited?
Speaker 1 (02:10):
No, but I'm still not going not gonna go. You
shouldn't go either. It's not gonna be fun. The supermodel
you were not gonna be dating anyway. You say you
are rejected. Okay, got it. Ah, Now, look we've made
some fun we here with McCarthy in this statement tonight.
Speaker 3 (02:26):
There's a lot of meat on the bone there, this
great this guy. We know it's just a Perkins menu.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
I mean we know it's a bit of a way
to try to save face and a pr spin on.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
Well, you're not getting a job this we you pay
me for.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
How about we try we push it this way and say, hey,
you don't want to be considered for it? Ah, now
I will. Now there is a good portion for it,
I have to. You have good news for Mike McCarthy
is that with the CEO coach being in vogue, and really,
if he had been freed up at the end of
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the season, he would have been in the MIT reel
mix for more, for for more jobs.
Speaker 3 (03:00):
Because for the Bears, do you say they had a
quarterback established they.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
Brought him in right away. But it's like you've already
gone down the road with Ben Jonson. Mean, you had
to wait a week and that's a big week from
the end of the regular season until the following week
that Mike McCarthy couldn't talk to anybody. Nobody knew if
he was going to be around because you go down
the road with all these other guys, right, So it's
a big week that he didn't.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
Well, it wasn't at the Bears who requested, and then
the Dallas said no, And then it was a week
after the season. Then Dallas said, guess what, he's not
going to be coach here.
Speaker 4 (03:27):
Out, No you can't. Yeah, sure, I don't care.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
Yeah, now you can go ahead have all those jobs.
Oh really they're taking say okay, sorry whatever, we're not
paying you. So he is.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
The breed of what teams want now because it kind
of goes in cycles, right, we had the long push
of well, we want the next great offensive or defensive
system on a team, the next great leader of men.
You know, maybe this is a guy and we've kind
of seen it and it hasn't really worked. Right, Sometimes
it works, sometimes it doesn't. But there's no track record.
(04:02):
There was no way to know that. Hey, Kevin O'Connell
was going to be a better head coach than Robert Slip.
Both of these guys great coordinators, different sides of the ball.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
Need I remind you that Brandon Staley was the coordinator
of the number one defense in the NFL.
Speaker 4 (04:15):
He was terrific.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
Just had to stop going for it on fourth down
and then he became a head coach, just had to
stand will never see him as a head coach ever again.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
Right exactly, So you see teams that say, Okay, they
know that, all right, we're we think we like this guy.
Speaker 4 (04:29):
But it's a gut feel that this.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
Is going to be a coordinator that's going to run
a whole program and be successful. Whereas now you look
on the flip side and go, well, yeah, he's been
fired a couple of times. But Mike McCarthy knows how
to build a program. He won in chaos in Dallas
for three years.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
Can call his own plays. He only didn't win this
year and his quarterback got hurt. So even the Jacksonville guy,
Liam Cohen's going there because of the offense at Tampa
Bay this year, he's going to be calling his own plays.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
Yeah, I mean, look, McCarthy still kept the team together
and with Dak Prescott, they probably win more games. Right,
So this is the but they see him and he's
won a super Bowl, he's got a great track record,
he's built a program.
Speaker 3 (05:09):
Even the special teams is not bad.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
Right, It's just that's that's a trust factor that teams
have with the CEO head coaches. That's the best way
to describe them. So while it was too late for him,
I guarantee you this, he'll be the Mike Vrabel of
next year because there's not a lot of CEOs out
there that have been let go. They're going to get
back in the game. Bill Belichick is not getting back
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in the NFL. Right, Pete Carroll just got a job.
He's going to be the Mike Vrabel of next year.
Where a year from now, we're gonna look back and say, Okay,
who have been the hot coordinators, who's won he was
coach of the year. Who wants to leave college for
the NFL. But there's only one guy that's won a
Super Bowl as a head coach that recent success.
Speaker 4 (05:52):
There's only one Mike McCarthy.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
And Mike Rabel got snapped up really fast right that
the Patriots said, hey, ex Patriots, But let's have a
quick sham Rooney rule interview so we can get right
to Mike Rabel, right, because we don't want to lose him.
And Rabel was the first one off the board. The
SAME's gonna be for Mike McCarthy next year. With a
year away, he's gonna get more valuable. You'll be able
to vet him more. And with the with the absolute
(06:15):
train wreck that the Cowboys are gonna be next year,
it's gonna be Wow. Mike McCarthy really deserves more credit
than he should have gotten. So he's gonna be the
Mike Vrabel of next year. I have no doubt he
will get a really good job next year. And it's
not the worst thing for him because all the job
openings this year are terrible, right, none of them are good.
Speaker 3 (06:33):
Raiders still don't have a quarterback. Oh so, even if
they draft a quarterback, their.
Speaker 4 (06:39):
Best quarterback is their owner. What does that tell.
Speaker 3 (06:42):
You their best quarterback is, Oh yeah, well he's running things.
You were thinking, Mark David, Absolutely I was, because I
see Tom Brady on television every week. He can't possibly
be an owner and the call it games for the
NFL as well, that they would never let that happen.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
You're talking about a controversy. Nobody cares, but like, look,
so he's going to be that guy next year.
Speaker 3 (07:03):
But they're protecting the shield. This will make the shield
better when the Raiders might actually have a competitive team
for the first time in twenty years.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
But the job openings are terrible and the coaches that
got the gigs. Look, Vrabel was coming. Look he was
elevated when normally he would be the fourth or fifth coach.
Speaker 3 (07:21):
But this year it's so bad, so bad passage of time.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
Ben Johnson should have been able to ride his ticket
anywhere he wanted to, but it felt like, boy, anybody
could have got him, and the Bears had to bit
against themselves to say, well, I think he's the guy
we want. But he sat out there for a little while.
Like I love Aaron Glenn. He's great for the Jets.
He played there. He knows what it's like to play
for Woody Johnson calls it his dream job. I want
anybody that says doing anything for the Jets is their
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dream job, because I know what they're going to put
into it.
Speaker 3 (07:48):
Has already dealt with the New York media for years,
and we saw this week but was he that great
a candidate or was he a great candidate? This year?
The openings were bad, The candidates were bad. Yeah, like
the first round quarterbacks that we're gonna wind up with it,
they won't be compared. I don't think Leicester's first round
quarterbacks now just some years are better than others now.
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Knowing that, okay, think about this.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
Obviously, with what we found out, Mike McCarthy could have
talked to the Saints this week, but he didn't. Right,
so I'm gonna pull out of the cycle. Probably wouldn't
have gotten the job. Pulled out of the cycle. Cliff Kingsbury,
Commanders offensive coordinator, did a wonderful job this year. Jade
and Daniels opted not to pursue the Saints head coaching job. Okay,
(08:35):
Joe Brady, Bill's offensive coordinator, made the offense hum noes
to Von Diggs, Hey we're using more James Cook. Joe
Brady said I'd rather stay in Buffalo than interview than
interview with New Orleans a second time. And Aaron Glenn
who said, well, it's us or the Jets. The Jets
are a bleepman. You talk about train wrecks and Jets
are like eight train wrecks together, and he said, no,
(08:57):
I'd rather go to the Jets. Is there any the
Saints is the worst job in the NFL? Are you
at McCarthy, I'm pulling out of a job I might
not be considered for. Kingsbury says nope, I'm staying. Joe
Brady says, nope, I'm staying. Aaron Glenn, who was interviewed
with it left the Jets interviewed with Saints, said nope,
I'm going to the Jets. Like, is there any doubt
the Saints is the worst head coaching job in the NFL.
Speaker 3 (09:19):
And I know that it's usually awful teams that have
coach openings, but the group of teams that had coach
openings this offseason is kind of astounding in their collective awfulness.
Because the Raiders have been largely nothing for almost twenty
five years now, Jacksonville Patriots what they've become, and there's
(09:41):
no light at the end of the tunnel with the
new England franchise. Let's be honest, what the Bears have been,
what the Jets have been, and what the Cowboys circus is,
and then the Saints. Those are your openings. I mean,
nobody in their right mind unless it's your first NFL
job is jumping at one of those j.
Speaker 4 (10:00):
No, because and and and think about it. Think about it.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
From this is that all these jobs that are open
barely had any reason to go there, right, Like, like
you went to Jacksonville because okay, maybe you know it's
still the Trevor Lawrence first NFL gave us a head coach.
We're ridiculously paying this guy. So Okay, Aaron Glenn played
with the Jets. Okay, Pete Carroll, Tom Brady loved him,
(10:23):
Mark Davis loved him. I gotta get back in the
NFL somewhere, all of these and still the Saints are saying,
we can't even get we can't even get somebody. I mean,
but what do they have to sell? Right, Let's say,
like you don't have a you don't have a star quarterback.
You have a stud running back, you have Krystal Love.
Hey we got Christal Love. That's awes good.
Speaker 4 (10:42):
Like what do you have?
Speaker 3 (10:42):
You had a few good games and you.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
Are and you are locked into car for another couple
of years like this is the Saints is the worst
coaching opening. And there they peaked, beaten the crap out
of the Cowboys week two. Like if you're doing the
end of the season NFL films, you know, and they
they give the replay of.
Speaker 3 (11:01):
The team's a good half hour always like all of.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
The highlights are from that game, Like it's like, hey,
week one the Saints and Week two the Saints improved
a two and zero, and it's all the highlights, and
then it's just a quick voice.
Speaker 3 (11:12):
It's like how the Falcons film is going to be Yeah,
and then it's a.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
Quick voice over of the rest of the season didn't
go that way for the Saints, but they're looking forward
to next year.
Speaker 3 (11:20):
There are NFL films, and what he's talking about is
there's a half hour film to preview the coming season,
essentially by looking back at the NFL films highlight of
your previous year. There's a half hour done on each franchise.
They're actually very entertaining to watch for these franchises that
are hiring coaches right now that we're talking about, I
(11:40):
guarantee six to nine minutes of the twenty three minutes
of the film is just talking about the new regime
and press conference highlights, because.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
We keep showing these depressing plays we lost games on. Hey,
look at the coach he's talking.
Speaker 3 (11:53):
Now, this is great, this way our opinions, guys, this
is the Bears game on Thanksgiving. Yeah, how many highlights?
The Raiders lost ten games in a row. That's two
and a half months of highlights that you're just throwing
in the trash.
Speaker 4 (12:07):
Do we need it?
Speaker 5 (12:08):
No?
Speaker 4 (12:08):
I don't any of the other games.
Speaker 3 (12:09):
Now, boys defense could not stop a fly. Well, what
are we gonna do? I don't know.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
Because the titles of all there's only three titles for
all these NFL films.
Speaker 4 (12:18):
They're back to glory.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
No, no, no, no no.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
There's call to glory. If a team wins the Super
Bowl for the first time, there's return to glory. If
a team had won the Super Bowl previously and won again,
or taking flight meaning hey you did this year, but
the future is bright like that's it. Like the Saints
would be taking flight. That would be the name of
the Saints won, everybody else would be taking flight, and
(12:40):
the Chiefs and the or the Eagles would be called
a glory that would be what it is. Or no
return to glory since they've each won the Super Bowl before.
Speaker 3 (12:46):
You're right, the titles do fit what we're just talking
about it.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
I mean, I mean really, but I mean it's it's
now embarrassing. Like the Saints are the Saints are when
when the like if you put all the teams for
the for the uh that had openings right like it
was the playground after school. Oh yeah, and you were
choosing up teams. The Saints are the kid who knows, Okay,
I'm the worst one here, but maybe one of my
(13:11):
friends will pick me. I don't want to be the
last one. I'm gonna kind of stand in the corner
and pretend nobody's looking. And then it gets to the
end and nobody picks them. Well, you still need one
more guy. No, we'll play five on sex. We'll play
five on six. No, this is a Kate wants to play.
He wants to play it. No, But the Saints are like,
please don't notice the fact that we still can't get
a head coach and we're probably gonna hire Kellen Moore.
Speaker 3 (13:32):
That's exactly why I had a pee coach. When it
came down to the last few guys, he just assigned
people to teams. He didn't let there be a last pig.
These New Orleans Saints had been about five hundred or
least the last four years. And you might say, well,
that's kind of okay. This is my point. They're in
the most winnable division in football. Oh yeah, and they
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can't get double digit victories. And so even they are
coming well, not this year. Even they are a couple
of times in recent years coming down to the end. Hey,
they might actually get a home playoff game. They might
actually win this division. This doesn't look like a playoff team.
They might actually be in the postseason. But no, for
these four years in a row, they have not been
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in the playoffs. So Dennis Allen is not the coach anymore.
You have old Yeller, the special teams guy who became
the interim coach and couldn't stop screaming on the side. Yeah,
Rick is the guy who was the announcer for the
Mats the longest time, Darren Rizzy. And so that you've
got Dennis Allen formally announced as defensive coordinator of Chicago.
By the way, so this is yet another instance in
(14:36):
NFL history the guy who coordinator is in his lane
and can succeed and a step higher than that.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
No, we look at the League of unsuccessful head coaches
getting new gigs.
Speaker 3 (14:48):
Right solid, all stop.
Speaker 4 (14:51):
You gotta give him a chance, Gotta give me a chance.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
Solos back to San Francisco. He says, we're the bleeping Jets,
and we're bleeping built for this. Now, all the Matt
Ebra flues, all the league of unsuccessful head.
Speaker 3 (15:01):
Coach gonna warre. You're saying that Brandon Staley is a
future defensive coordinator for the Los Angeles Rams.
Speaker 4 (15:07):
He is in a league of his own brand.
Speaker 3 (15:08):
He was barely there. I don't think here. We always
talk about anybody who had a handshake with Sean McVay.
He eventually, I'm not sure he shook the hand of
Sean mcv.
Speaker 4 (15:17):
When he was to shake his enemy fell.
Speaker 3 (15:19):
And he did that thing where they kind of pulled
a hand back really quickly.
Speaker 4 (15:25):
Exit out about a Fresca.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
Jason Smith, Steve Desager Lock the tyreck Dotcom studio is
there is no worse opening obviously now in the NFL
than the Saint Sorry, Mae, you know what, hey mate,
Maybe Kellen Moore will be something coming up next. We
get back into the big NBA trade deadline that's just
about a week away. We had some big names thrown
out there. What player that's on the trading block could
(15:47):
make his new team into a top three team in
a year. I'll tell you next Jason Smith, Steve de
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Speaker 3 (17:19):
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Speaker 4 (17:22):
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VCU and Saint Louis.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
Oh man, the crowd tonight. Wow, you want to talk
about a viral highlight?
Speaker 3 (17:36):
Yeah. Look, it's more so than what went on in
the Ducon game last year.
Speaker 4 (17:39):
Oh yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
We had people throwing up on the floor and people
passing out at games.
Speaker 3 (17:43):
Last and getting carried out at Duke Lass. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
So it was kind of insane, although not quite what
we saw tonight on CBS Sports Network. Virginia Commonwealth VCU
was playing Saint Louis Big Game in the eight ten
Saint Louis wound up winning, which knocked VCU out of
first place. But with about a minute ten left to
go in this game, you've probably seen this. It's everywhere.
(18:06):
Saint Louis I think hit a three to extend the
lead to nine points, and then with a minute left,
the game was delayed for ten minutes because a fight
broke out in the stands involving about a dozen people
that was right behind the VCU bench.
Speaker 3 (18:24):
Just a few rows out.
Speaker 1 (18:25):
Here's some of the play by play from that. Again,
it's not on the court. This is fans, about a
dozen of them are fighting behind the VCU bench.
Speaker 3 (18:37):
Ah.
Speaker 4 (18:39):
Oh, that's a hell of a fight right there. It
was a little bit more than that. It's a little bit.
Speaker 3 (18:46):
Well what's going on.
Speaker 5 (18:47):
Though, we don't often see this in college fastball, but
there is a heck.
Speaker 2 (18:53):
Of a brawl going on in the stands.
Speaker 3 (18:55):
Wow.
Speaker 5 (18:57):
The police officers and the security have come over and
trying to help out, almost immediately to slow it all down.
Speaker 3 (19:05):
Just an ugly hand into a really good game.
Speaker 5 (19:06):
Yeah, it's terrible.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
You know.
Speaker 5 (19:14):
The all the players are looking up, the coaches are
looking up. People have their cameras out, which in this
day and age, is not a shock.
Speaker 4 (19:20):
By the VCU bench.
Speaker 5 (19:23):
Oh they're really having a tough time. They really are
having a tough time of making sure that this is stopped.
Once it started piling on on the stairwell, it was
hard to deal it back. My goodness of no place
for that in college basketball on any sports venue for
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that matter at all.
Speaker 3 (19:50):
Good good showing by Saint Louis.
Speaker 2 (19:52):
Want to make sure we end this with class.
Speaker 5 (19:55):
Yeah, it's it's never really that.
Speaker 4 (20:00):
I mean this, Okay, there's a bunch of things from
this fight.
Speaker 3 (20:06):
There's a lot of batman punches in the background.
Speaker 1 (20:10):
Paw is waiting to hear the Liam Cohen duvall Uh
first of all. Okay, VCU and Saint Louis like, is
this that big of a rivalry that you can fight?
I mean, I you can fight anywhere. This is not
Raiders and insert team here. This is VCU and Saint
Louis like, you got that, you got that fired up
(20:33):
over the end of this game when St.
Speaker 3 (20:34):
Louis has had great attendance for many years.
Speaker 4 (20:38):
No, I get it.
Speaker 1 (20:38):
But why this is you know, this is not Auburn Alabama.
Speaker 4 (20:42):
You know this is.
Speaker 3 (20:43):
A minute Togo, It's not a twenty point blowout.
Speaker 1 (20:48):
Okay, Uh the other thing that shocked me, and you
heard the play by play guys talking about it. There's
a lot of people involved in this fight and it
ranges all over and they couldn't continue to play the
game because the fight was going on very close to
the VCU bench, so they moved the players off the
bench and they took about ten minutes to figure this out.
I'm watching him going, there's only a couple of security
(21:10):
guards here, like like where like this? Where is everybody?
Speaker 3 (21:14):
It's someone's minimum wage job. Who's a sophomore at the school?
Oh boy, I have to go to the bathroom. You guys,
don't wake it up? Do I get credit for this?
Speaker 1 (21:23):
I mean, I'm watching this and I'm going, where's more
security running from somewhere to come help?
Speaker 4 (21:29):
Because the security's overwhelmed.
Speaker 3 (21:30):
Some people were pulled down, like go from row three
to row two.
Speaker 1 (21:34):
Like the one guy, the bald guy in the blue
shirt is able to walk up to the and screaming
and putting up four fingers and yell where is where.
Speaker 3 (21:43):
Is the guy? That's a guy that has to get
kicked out first?
Speaker 4 (21:46):
But no, he's just like.
Speaker 1 (21:47):
Kind of leaving on his own and I'm like, what
what is going on? Where is the security here? Like
where I mean this, this huge fight breaks out. Okay,
I get that maybe there's only a couple of guys
there because that's where but when that happens, Okay, let's
get security over here.
Speaker 4 (22:00):
We have a fight over here.
Speaker 3 (22:01):
Yeah, the visiting team was in the huddle when this
is going on, and they actually stopped talking and stop
listening to the coach, and every backs out and starts
looking five to ten rows up and then the game
is delayed. I repeat, this is late in the game,
about a minute to go, and it's only a six
point difference at the time.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
Oh tell you know, you know watch this. Mike Ruschefski's
gonna have a big statement tomorrow. See, this is why
we need to stop people from storming the court and
everything else.
Speaker 4 (22:24):
I know, I don't coach anymore, but.
Speaker 3 (22:28):
Be good time.
Speaker 1 (22:29):
Considering what happened at Duke, Well, well, you know, a
guy getting sick and throwing up is not you know,
no one storms the court for that. Yeah, well it
was just a player. That's a way to keep them
off the court. Well he's throwing I'm not running on there.
Speaker 3 (22:41):
Somebody was completely I mean, if they'd been on the ground,
would have been dragged out of Cameraon indoors, somebody was
completely out in the stands, like four people grabbing all fours.
You take a wrist, I'll take an ankle. And some
completely carried out. Some people really, if I can use
air quotes, loved the way the ESPN cameras just stayed
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on the completely out of it student. I assume it
was as they went all the way down the sidelines
and out, like they didn't veer away from that shot,
in fact, zoomed.
Speaker 1 (23:12):
In a little bit. And let's keep watching an embarrass
this person. And now we'll show Cooper Flag. All right,
go back to Cooper Flagg. Let's have his stats for
the night. And there she goes, can't short about Cooper Flag.
I'll tell you what a player.
Speaker 3 (23:22):
So there was just normal college basketball on FS one
earlier tonight as ninth rank Marquette down ten late first half,
still got to win at Butler. And have you noticed
Saint John's basketball is a thing.
Speaker 1 (23:36):
Now, you know, I got to say a couple of
things about that really fast before you get to what's trending,
is that there is a there is a fifteen year old,
a ten to seventeen year old part of me that
is incredibly happy because Saint John's is my team growing up,
right when I grew up in New York, Like, Saint
John's was who you rooted for in college basketball?
Speaker 3 (23:55):
Oh, City of New York.
Speaker 1 (23:56):
Yeah, because on Staten Island is where Saint John's campus
is in Staten Island, Queens, So it's kind of split.
So half the student body goes to Saint John's on
Staten Island, the other.
Speaker 4 (24:05):
Half goes to Queen's.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
I've never heard that the basketball team plays in Queens, right,
And Saint John's was the team. And when I was
growing up, it was Chris Mullen and we went to
the Final four and it was oh my goodness. I mean,
I'm a Saint John's fan from a little kid. And
then I go to Syracuse, I'm like, blank, you Saint
John's baby my team. No, but there's a soft spot.
And look, anybody who beats Georgetown, I'm gonna be your
(24:26):
best friend. But maybe maybe Rick Patino can still coach
a little bit here. Maybe maybe you can still maybe
you can bring in a couple of guys and transfer
maybe Rick Patino, because this is gonna be a team
that's gonna I mean, they're gonna at the end of
this week with some of the upsets, they're gonna be
knocking on the door of the top ten.
Speaker 3 (24:43):
They were ranked fifteenth going into tonight's game. Saint John's
led it Georgetown after eight minutes twenty three to three.
The final was sixty six forty one. Georgetown shot twenty
five percent from the floor for the game. And you
brought up the name Chris Mullen, which reminds me of
one he had his jersey retired with the Golden State Warriors,
(25:03):
who announced today they will retire the number nine of
Andre Iguodala on February twenty third.
Speaker 1 (25:11):
Yeah, you know, I'm glad you brought that up because
I feel like, yeah.
Speaker 3 (25:17):
How is this happening? You're saying, I mean, the guys,
if two people vote NBA Finals MVP the other way
for Lebron, this isn't a news story today.
Speaker 1 (25:27):
This doesn't happen you win NBA Finals MVP. They they
could have won it without you. I mean, you did
have a big series, and I get it, but I mean,
you don't get your jersey retired just because of that.
Speaker 4 (25:38):
You'll get sure it just go hey fight.
Speaker 1 (25:40):
No, that's great, and that's honor you and honor the
team everything else. But come on, man, this is I mean.
Speaker 3 (25:44):
Like, apparently Jalen Brown's jersey is already gonna be retired
by Boston Celtics after that great postseason he just have
and they won.
Speaker 1 (25:53):
Then have Porzingiss jersey retired because he had a great
first couple of games before he got hurt. He was
on track to be the end be a finals MVP.
I mean, Revy, I mean, you have so much You're
gonna retire Steph's jersey. You're gonna retire Clay's jersey. You're
gonna retire Draymond's jersey. Right, You're gonna retire. You're gonna
retire three jerseys in the next two years. No, no,
(26:15):
look at what they have now had two finals MVP
Juwan Green's gonna walk up and rip that thing off
the wall.
Speaker 3 (26:22):
You're not retiring that jersey. It's not the standard is
win one finals? MVP Durant won it back to back years.
Speaker 1 (26:29):
What Sean Livingston gonna get his jersey retired next? I
mean he had say they won their first.
Speaker 3 (26:33):
Time you thought about all your finals MVP league wide
the last forty years, probably the one you'd say would
be at the bottom of the list of forty would
be Andre Iguidala, right because even like a one year
wonder with the Raptors, there's great respect for the talent
of Kawhi Leonard and the career went healthy that he's had. Iguidala,
(26:54):
he hasn't sniffed ten points a game for his total career.
Now look, now, the thing is is that if you if.
Speaker 1 (26:59):
You want the State Warriors, right, no, no, if you
talk about Ai, we call him a I. If you
talk about him in the pantheon of NBA Finals MVPs,
he is surrounded by Hall of famers, right because it's
it's Jokichen Curry and Jannis and Lebron and Kawhi and
k d. I mean, it's Novitski and Kobe, Like, these
are the guys winning, and you gotta go, well, you
(27:20):
want to look for a guy that's not quite a
Hall of Famer like that, You're like, okay, You're going
all the way.
Speaker 4 (27:26):
Back to saying well.
Speaker 1 (27:27):
Chauncey Billups was NBA Finals MVP consideration two thousand and four.
Speaker 4 (27:33):
But generally, if you're a you're a great player.
Speaker 3 (27:35):
Didn't Dennis Johnson make the Hall of Fame eventually and
that was the finest, So pretty much anybody.
Speaker 1 (27:41):
I mean, you're already back in like nineteen seventy eight
with Dennis Johnson, you know, I mean, I mean you
really you have to go with Chauncey Billups and Tony
Parker like that. Okay, great, but Tony Parker at least
was a lifelong Frederick Max was a big starling eighties. Yeah,
I mean, I I really, andre I get andre Igwadala
was inb fine, but come on, you're retiring this jersey?
Speaker 3 (28:02):
Come on, man, I mean real next month, like it's
already I don't think I know that.
Speaker 1 (28:06):
The war is just saying, look, we're done winning. We're
not going to title anymore. So let's have give reasons
people to come out and see. You know, we can't
we can't, we can't guarantee we're gonna even make the
play in this. So let's retire as jersey.
Speaker 3 (28:17):
Come on. See the Lakers standard is when Jamal Wilkes
finally got into the Hall of Fame. Okay, retire the jersey.
Michael Cooper into the Hall of Fame. You're in the
Hall of Fame. Retire slightly higher standard than he had
a good week and a half and got to vote
seven votes to four over Lebron for Finals MVP.
Speaker 4 (28:35):
Really good, I know, but a really good week and
a half.
Speaker 3 (28:40):
We're retiring as Jersey.
Speaker 2 (28:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (28:41):
Actually, people will say, wait a minute, you mean Steph
wasn't Steph was like twenty five points a game. I
get that serious.
Speaker 4 (28:48):
I guarantee you.
Speaker 1 (28:48):
When they told him that they were going to retire
as Jersey, Uh, he said, Okay, who's who's pranking me?
He's calling all his friends. Dude, did you have somebody
pretend to call me from the war by retiring my jersey? No,
what he's talking about, I'd find it's probably somebody else
and he's just making all that. Oh no, no, it's legitimately. Okay,
get my jersey resign. Okay, then, yeah, I didn't. I
put me in the camp of those who didn't see
(29:10):
this coming. Yeah, I'll just leave it.
Speaker 3 (29:12):
You know, we've got a minute before the trending update.
Can I mention the trend of how things are going
with baseball with starting games earlier in the evening and
the games themselves not lasting as long as they used to.
Major League Baseball made sure to point that out that
here are the exact statistics. If you go back only
four years, it was forty percent of the games on
weeknights started before seven pm your local time seven pm.
(29:38):
This coming season, it's over sixty percent of the weeknight
games are going to be starting before seven pm. Now
that includes that day game on a Wednesday where the
team is going to be on a flight afterwards. But
the actual time of the game, of course, compared to
four years ago, and all the rules changes, especially the
last couple of years, have made the game shorter. We've
(29:58):
gone from the average of three out or is ten
minutes for a Major League ballgame to two hours thirty
six minutes this past year. So if you start a
game at say six forty local time, and the game
is going about two forty on top of that instead
of three to ten, that's a massive difference for a
family going to a game, or anybody with youngsters, or hey,
(30:20):
I got to get up in the morning for my
job or for a school class or any of that.
Baseball is I'm amazed considering how leaderless they are, how
how well they're doing in these two areas in recent years.
Speaker 1 (30:31):
Yeah, I mean the game's gonna end at nine to twenty, wow,
nine to one, just get ready for primetime television.
Speaker 3 (30:37):
I cannot tell you how many Dodger games I went to.
They would start at seven eleven PM and go till
close to ten thirty. Be ooh, you got out, And
that's before you even walk to your car trying to
get out of that park.
Speaker 4 (30:48):
And then Clayton Kershell wanted the game to begin at
seven eleven.
Speaker 3 (30:52):
That's right, that's when his theme song would be playing.
And it doesn't matter if your seats, you're in, your
seats are done.
Speaker 1 (30:57):
We got more coming up in ninety seconds. But first,
as you've said, he's got what's trending in the wide
world of sports.
Speaker 3 (31:02):
Let's start with the NFL news is Washington Commander's offensive
coordinator Cliff Kingsbury will stay with the team. New Orleans
gave Kellen Moore a second interview last night, and shock
Mike McCarthy had not been interviewed by the Saints, so
he will not be coaching this offseason. He says. The
Cowboys hired Matt Eberflus for defensive coordinator. He had been
Bears head coach Mike Zimmer will likely retire. Chicago formally
(31:23):
announced Dennis Allen as its defensive coordinator. Detroit's new offensive
coordinator is John Morton, who is only with Denver for
one year. The Raiders reportedly interviewed Darryl Bevell for offensive coordinator.
He worked for Pete Carroll in Seattle. Baltimore is hiring
Chuck Pagano as secondary coach. The Browns say they're not
interested in trading away defensive end Miles Garrett. He's been
(31:44):
a First Team All Pro four times. Last Sunday's AFC
Championship game drew over fifty seven million TV viewers, breaking
last year's record for an AFC title game. Ratings for
this the way they measure at date back to nineteen
eighty eight and impressive number. Sunday's NFC Title game got
forty four million viewers. And yes, the Eagles have chosen
(32:05):
to wear their home green uniforms for the Super Bowl
as the designated home team they can choose, so Kansas
City will wear the white jerseys. Philadelphia cannot wear its
alternate jerseys, so no Kelly Green, just dark green. The
Super Bowl will be indoors in New Orleans if the
lights are on a week from Sunday on Fox TV.
Reliever Kirby Yates pasted is physical and we'll sign with
(32:25):
the Dodgers on a one year, thirteen million dollar deal.
He was an All Star last year with Texas. Yates
turns thirty eight in March in the NHL's late game,
Dallas in overtime one at Vegas four to three, Buffalo
a seven to two winner over Boston. Victories for the
Islanders in Winnipeg. Washington won three to one at Calgary,
victories for Carolina and Chicago to college hoops wins for
(32:48):
Michigan State, Texas A and M Saint John's and Louisville.
Kentucky won at Tennessee seventy eight seventy three ninth rank
Marquette won at Butler seventy eight sixty nine in a
I'm Back and at number eleven Kansas Jayhawks eventually held
off UCF ninety one eighty seven, and the WNBA Phoenix
is acquiring Alyssa Thomas from Connecticut. She's finished top five
(33:11):
for MVP each of the last three years. Britney Griner
is moving on from Phoenix, agreeing to a deal with Atlanta.
The Sacramento Kings are reportedly open to trading d Aaron Fox.
The league's trade deadline is February sixth. He's due to
be a free agent in just over a year. NBA
All Star Game reserves will be announced Thursday. The league
announced the dates for nine rescheduled games. All will be
(33:32):
in March in April now due to the recent postponements
in LA and New Orleans. The NBA Draft in late
June will be held in Brooklyn again and it will
be a two day event again for two total rounds
LaMelo Ball of Charlotte is out Wednesday with a spring day.
Cole Chicago Zach Lavine out for personal reasons this week.
Boston's Jason Tatum is questionable with the knee injury. Kevin
(33:52):
Durant questionable for tomorrow with a thumb injury. Steph Curry
was out at Golden State tonight with a bad knee.
He shot four seventeen from the floor over the weekend.
Golden State did win without him against Utah one fourteen
to one oh three. The Jazz have lost seven in
a row. Atlanta lost its sixth straight game. Houston beat
him one hundred to ninety six. Trey Young did return.
He missed last night's game with the sore hamstring. Young
(34:14):
for the Hawks tonight nine assists and eight turnovers. Portland
upset Milwaukee. Philadelphia beat the Lakers Tyrese Maxi forty three points.
Anthony Davis of LA left with an abdominal strain.
Speaker 1 (34:26):
Now we'll get to the big NBA trade trade block
story in a second. I want to tell you this.
You want to you want to story. I have a
story about John Morton. Really it was now taking over
for Ben Johnson as the Lions in Detroit, Oh See.
I coached his daughter in softball for a season. No,
and she was really good.
Speaker 4 (34:43):
She could hit.
Speaker 1 (34:44):
She was really good. Her first basement outfielder. She could
really hit. No, she was good. She's a good player.
She's anymore. What do you mean, not anymore? You coached her.
I made her the player she is today. I've made
her that player. She's a supers and Mets baseball we
all know. No, you know the funny thing is when
when because she came to the team, and and John
(35:04):
Morton's wife called me to say, hey, my daughter plays
you know.
Speaker 3 (35:07):
To be confused with Johnny Morton before, who also played
for the for the lines. No, this is John Morton.
Speaker 1 (35:13):
And and the funny thing is, I said, okay, you
know she's coming, Yes, you can come to practice. Great here,
I'm excited to tell me a little bit about her
everything else. And she sell, yeah, my husband's coaches the NFL.
I said, oh, you know who is he? And she says, oh,
it's John Morton. I go, oh, he was a Jets
offensive coordinator and she goes yeah.
Speaker 3 (35:30):
And I was like, oh, I guess we don't. We
don't talk about the.
Speaker 1 (35:33):
Jets of first last time, I said, I won't tell
you the Jets are my team. She goes, yeah. But
there it's a wonder that's a wonderful family right there.
I mean she was great. The mother was great. She's
a really good player.
Speaker 3 (35:44):
She could hit.
Speaker 1 (35:46):
It was a lot of fun. Uh hey again, I
make players good. I make them good. Coming up next, Yes,
we have a big final statement to make because the
Dodger's got another big star tonight.
Speaker 4 (35:56):
And we'll tell you what.
Speaker 1 (35:57):
Could be a big move coming up the NBA trade deadline.
Jason Smith deep Sager, Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (36:07):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven
pm Pacific, Fox.
Speaker 1 (36:17):
Sports Radio The Jason Smith Show with Steve desagerin from
Mike Harmon, Hey, Steve, we'll get to the big Dodgers
news in a minute. But you know, we talked a
lot tonight about the NBA trade deadline coming up, and
now we know that the Aaron Fox is on the
board for the Kings. He wants to be traded and
his preferred destination is the Spurs, which is like, wait,
(36:40):
what his preferred destination is the Spurs.
Speaker 3 (36:43):
So he's picking a young star to be on that rush.
Speaker 1 (36:46):
He is and even though he's going to be a
free age right, he's been a league not this summer,
but the.
Speaker 3 (36:50):
Next summer he will. And by the way, last summer
he turned down a contract extension offer, so his days
are numbered in Sacramento.
Speaker 1 (36:56):
The fact that that's his preferred destination tells me he
wants to sign their long term and he wants to
be part of that solution there. And I'll tell you
if they get him and don't have to give up Castle,
because Castle is a phenomenal young player I pick this year.
I told you that he's the guy I take number
one combo guard. He can, he defends really well, like
(37:17):
he is so good and and now in anybody's estimation,
he's you know, in the rookie rankings, he's now the
second best rookie. I okay, great, he'll be the best
guy for how he'll have the best career of anybody
if they don't have to give him up, and they
probably don't because you want to make the money move.
You know, Vassil is a guy that you can you
can trade with that. If they are able to get
dearon Fox, they will be a top three team in
(37:40):
the West by this time next year, if not sooner
with Wenby by the end of this year, he'll be
the best player in the NBA and he'll be widely
viewed as that you're talking about a year from now
with a guy that's that dynamic, who is all.
Speaker 4 (37:52):
NBA two years ago.
Speaker 1 (37:54):
Yeah, the Spurs will be in the top three of
the Western Conference, maybe even better within a year.
Speaker 3 (37:58):
And before you think that's hyperbole, who are the top
three teams in the West right now? A young Houston team,
Memphis which didn't have John Morant for a lot of
this year would still be the three seed if things
ended right now. And Darn Fox has put in his
time in this league at this point. I know, I
don't think he's closed. He's still here a couple of
years till he's age thirty. But this guy is twenty
(38:20):
points a game for his career and he wasn't like
scoring like this as a rookie. So even with the
down numbers to start his career, he's still over twenty
points a game as his career. That would be quite
an addition to a Spurs team that is already getting
Victor wibin Yama, that added the veteran at point guards
so key for the roster makeup and Chris Paul this year.
Speaker 1 (38:40):
Yeah, I mean, look, you talk about the Rockets. What
got them from the bottom up? Hey, we went out
and solidified Fred van Vliet and now look where they.
Speaker 3 (38:47):
Are and a lot of youth, a lot of draft
point the draft picks that have worked. I mean Aman
Thompson with the winner last night, and then we've seen
Jalen Green and he gets the highlight reels all the time.
Speaker 1 (38:59):
Now, you talked about big additions and it was finalized tonight.
I mean, we heard about this last week, but there
needed to be some tea's cross and ies dotted, you know,
physical had to be approved. But the Dodgers get Kirby
Yates for one year and thirteen million dollars. He's one
of the best relievers in baseball last year, kind of
a late bloomer, right, didn't really make it up until
he was twenty seven from Hawaii.
Speaker 3 (39:20):
He's like thirty seven years old for this coming season
in a row, oh thirty seven, now he'll be thirty eight.
Speaker 1 (39:26):
Yeah, but you know, for one year, thirteen million. This
is just the latest signing for a Dodgers team that
has gone You thought last year was was was incredible.
What they've done this year. I mean, look, I'm only
going to go back to you know, nineteen eighty. Let's
just say when I started watching, you know, really watching
all baseball all the time, and there's no team on
(39:48):
paper that's been better, no better roster, no better team
than the twenty twenty five Dodgers. This is the best
team on paper that I have ever seen. The way
that they have guys that can close, you know, for
the team this year, right, they have they can go
now seven deep starting pitchers without Clayton Kershaw, and suddenly
(40:09):
it we're fine. Like I saw this article on ESPN
earlier today, somebody said, hey, you can make two playoff
teams out of the Dodgers roster. That's how good it is.
Like you go the ninety eight Yankees, who were phenomenal teams,
the eighty four Tigers. Like I'm going back. There's not
been a team with a better roster that I've seen,
and on paper because I haven't played the games yet,
(40:29):
but nobody's been better than this Dodgers team that I see,
it's not even close.
Speaker 3 (40:33):
You mentioned the eighty four Tigers. They had one pitcher
that won seventeen games, another that won eighteen, and Jack
Morris won nineteen. And that lineup that they had included
Kurt Gibson homering in the clinching World Series game they
had against the Padres. That was four years before his
big home run in a World Series.
Speaker 1 (40:50):
In a Dodger year, they started out like what like
thirty four and four that year or something.
Speaker 3 (40:55):
Crash and while Hernandez Young as a reliever and they
had that same middle infield with Whittaker and Trammel four years.
So that was a good rush.
Speaker 1 (41:04):
And the Dodgers' lineup is still better than that. I
mean really, I mean I've got to prove it.
Speaker 3 (41:08):
I still wonder what they're doing to themselves. Putting Mookie
Bets at shortstop? Does that make your offense better? I'm
not sure about this.
Speaker 1 (41:15):
They're going every game eleven three. What does it matter?
They have foreclosers. Now for Steve, I'm Jason my buddy
Ben Maller coming up next.
Speaker 4 (41:24):
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