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Jason and Steve DeSaegher react to the Eagles/Chiefs Super Bowl uniforms. Ric Bucher joins the show for the latest on the Lakers, 76ers and Jimmy Butler. And Jason tells you why the 2025 Dodgers is the best roster he’s ever seen in MLB!

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:23):
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Speaker 1 (00:29):
Hello and welcome in side hour two The Jason Smith
Show with Mike Harmon. Steeve to say you're in for
Harmon tonight. Hey, Steve, Harmon's ordering his baseball cards from
which year?

Speaker 3 (00:43):
Now?

Speaker 1 (00:43):
You know, it's funny you say that. You know, all right,
I had a roommate in college, and it turns out
it's crazy the one I wind up of the four
roommates I had in college. I thought he would be
the last one that I would wind up talking to,
you know, twenty five years later. Yeah, but he's the
only one that I talked to. Yeah, because and we
were so opposite when when I got to call, Like,

(01:03):
I wanted to go out all the time, right, I
wanted to go out and hang out like I liked
hanging out doing nothing, which is where I'm kind of
at now. But I wanted to go out. He would
always want to stay in the door, stay in, stay in.
And there are times where I would say, Hey, there's
a party here, you want to come. He goes, no,
it's gonna stay in and I'm gonna, you know, and.

Speaker 3 (01:20):
Now he says, I'm ass phladult time, assuming I'm gonna.

Speaker 1 (01:23):
I'm gonna, I'm gonna I'm gonna look at the latest
and price my baseball cards because he because he had
this baby, brought it with him to college and he
would like look every few months where they would update
the you know the price guy getting ready to sell.
He would like, no, just to have so he knew
what he had. Like he was like, yeah, I'm gonna
go through my cards and i'm gonna do you know,
the nineteen eighty five set now and find the big
ones because you know, here's the price guide for the

(01:43):
last quarter whatever it was, and like those things are
like nine bucks, nine ten bucks and they come out
like three times a year. Oh sure, Now I'm gonna stay.

Speaker 3 (01:49):
Home and do that now, like just to so is collection.
So he just I'm gonna stay home, don't go, but
we can.

Speaker 1 (01:54):
Go out like and hang out where there's girls and
stuff and beer and we can gud like girls and
beer and me. I'm funny. I will bring all the
girls to us. I'll be the drawing cards. He was like, no,
I'm saying I'll do my baseball all right. That's fine,
all right, that's cool. That's cool.

Speaker 3 (02:10):
So that's your theory on hard today, because of course
he does have collect he's an expert on collectibles, not
just cards, by the way.

Speaker 4 (02:16):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:17):
And the thing is, and this is what drove me crazy,
is that my room. He was the smartest guy, probably
the top five smartest people I've ever known. He would
just do nothing the entire semester.

Speaker 3 (02:25):
So like part of that smarts that was saying no
to partying with you.

Speaker 1 (02:29):
But he wouldn't do anything. He's like, it's like it's
like he was fifty years old likely like I am now,
Like I'm sit on my couch and just stream TV
all day. Like we would sit and watch TV and
and you know, play video games. Like he was like
my huge daytime best friend because we would just do
all the nights. I'm like, all right, ready to go out.
He was like, yeah, he would just stay and not
do anything, and he would he wouldn't go to class

(02:49):
at off and he would he would never study, he
didn't go to class. No, and like the week before finals,
like I wouldn't see him. And he would go to
the library every night for a week and I would
I wouldn't see him. He would leave at eight thirty
in the morning and come back at like nine o'clock
at night. And I was like yeah, and he would
get a's and he graduated like a three seven five.

Speaker 3 (03:08):
Chat still sounds like a bad trade debate. I'm like,
I mean, but I enjoyed my semesters. Yeah, it could
get good grade.

Speaker 1 (03:14):
Yeah yeah, But I'm like, how do you just not
pay attention and then go again? The intelligence said he
had that he can go and make ups like self
taught a whole year of a class in a week.
Like he's like that, what is that Rosetta stone stuff? Right?
Like it's like his own system that.

Speaker 3 (03:31):
He said clearly, this wasn't senior year where you're writing
a lot of papers and you know, no, no.

Speaker 1 (03:36):
This is freshman and sophomore, Like, oh, how do you
do this? Man? And he graduated a semester early you know,
was like, yeah, I'm gonna go graduating. You're graduating early?
What what you know? Why?

Speaker 3 (03:45):
That's good? More time to count the cards.

Speaker 1 (03:47):
Yeah good. Yeah, And didn't have to pay Syracuse an
extra semester, so there was that he.

Speaker 3 (03:51):
Yeah, that's a pricey private school, Syracuse University.

Speaker 1 (03:54):
Uh So, Harmon's off tonight and you know, missing the
big news that Mike McCarthy has to to do sit
out the rest of the twenty twenty five season and
will look to become a head coach next year.

Speaker 3 (04:07):
So is this his choice? It sounds like the thing.

Speaker 1 (04:09):
This is a story that I would that I would
say would have more impact if it happened a week
or so.

Speaker 3 (04:16):
Ago when they were openings.

Speaker 1 (04:18):
Fer one opening now and the Saints don't even want
to talk to him. So is he really sitting it
out or is he said, you know, I'm gonna get ahead.
This is a gotta get ahead of the narrative. This
is Johnny went ahead of it.

Speaker 3 (04:28):
Now your roommate in college saying, you know, I'm not gonna.

Speaker 1 (04:32):
Go to them.

Speaker 3 (04:32):
You haven't been invited to parties?

Speaker 1 (04:35):
What are you talking about? Like a week ago, I
would have said, woll that's pretty big because you know,
the Jets had an opening, the Raiders had an opening.

Speaker 3 (04:42):
Everybody seemed to have a press cover. Like now when
it's one team, they don't want to talk to you.
It's like, yeah, I'm sitting it out. You're you're sitting
it out. But you say you're not getting a job,
and he's sitting it out. That means he's not coaching
in the Spring league either.

Speaker 1 (04:58):
This is where he's got a eight PR firm working
for him, going hey, hey, before you get shut out
and the Saints name.

Speaker 3 (05:05):
That's good. Yeah, you know, you gotta think ahead. It's
gonna be tough that somebody's somebody's earning their pay.

Speaker 1 (05:11):
Two guys off your Cowboys staff are getting jobs, one
of them with the Cowboys, and you're not. Let's jump
ahead of that narrative. So before Kellen Moore gets announced
as head coach of the Saints, let's announce for you
that you're sitting out the rest of this year. You're
not going to the acc to coach Duke against North Carolina.
I mean, many Diaz has that job and he won

(05:31):
like ten games this year. Again, he didn't play anybody.
But I mean, like you know, hey, let let we're
not do it. Let's get out of it. Let's get
out in front of this and let's say, hey, all right,
say you're sitting out this year whatever it else like, Oh, it's.

Speaker 3 (05:41):
Like the old laugh in shows on YouTube. Pat Paulson
would say he's running. You know, nobody's asking you to run.
So when you pull out of the presidential race saying
I choose not to run and if elected, I will
not serve. Well, wait a minute, nobody is asking you
to run in this offseason. Nobody is asking you to
even interview for their coach. When we were talking during

(06:02):
last night's show, Hey, Kellen Moore, there's this second in
person interview. New Orleans went to talk to him again.
That was a second interview. You haven't been contacted even
by anybody, So who are you trying to fool?

Speaker 1 (06:14):
Yeah, I mean this SA It's not like oh the Saves, No,
there's you're not there. You're not there. It's like me.
It's like me saying, oh, hey, I know she's the
homecoming queen. Most popular girls go, I'm not going with
her to the prompt she wouldn't go with you, doesn't matter.
I'm not I'm not gonna ask it.

Speaker 3 (06:29):
It's like Arnie Spaniel on the Weekend Show saying, for years,
you know, I went to high school with Genie Buss.
I was this close to being the owner of the
Lakers right now. Okay, let's let's that's a little McCarthy king.

Speaker 1 (06:41):
Can you imagine the trades the Lakers would have made
if Arney was in charge of that. Everybody would have
been fired after every loss. They'd have a lot of
draft picks, though they would have tons of draftics. I'm
not sure about that, even touns of draft picks. You know,
I'm not gonna I'm not gonna ask you to the prompt.
I'm not gonna go, but I'm not gonna ask you.
But I'm not gonna go with you. It doesn't matter.
I'm not asking you. I'm getting ahead of this. I mean,
it would have been powerful. It happened a week ago.

Speaker 3 (07:02):
I mean, by the way, happy to mention the high school.
They went to Palisades High. Of course, Pacific Palisades went
through so much this month with the fires. The football
field is still there and standing. Not everything on campus is,
but a lot of famous people have come through there,
not just darning. Spaniard Steve Kerr has mentioned it before,
with his mother still living in the neighborhood that's the

(07:23):
high school he wore the hat. In fact, they are
planning for the Palisades basketball team to see Golden State
play the Lakers when the Warriors are in LA, to
kind of treat them after all that's gone on.

Speaker 1 (07:35):
Uh So again, Mike McCarthy has decided to sit out
the rest of the cycle.

Speaker 3 (07:40):
Thank you.

Speaker 1 (07:40):
That's why I'm sitting out managing the Mets this year.
I'm sitting out. I'm sitting it out, carl A really
good job. I'm sitting out because usually it's the Mets
that seed out the season.

Speaker 4 (07:49):
You know.

Speaker 3 (07:50):
I'm sitting out playing. You know, we're in the NLC.
I planned I expect usually, but.

Speaker 1 (07:54):
Not from you.

Speaker 3 (07:56):
I'm dealing with Mets history of the last forty years,
sitting out playing first base for the Mets. This year,
I'm sitting it up. By the way, did you notice
that MLB Network has shown the Mets Game six of
the eighty six World Series again. They had the series
of among the what I think it, They called it
the top twenty games of all time that they voted
on and would actually show not highlights, showed the games

(08:18):
the whole broadcast, like Ken Skelly, Yeah, oh my goodness.

Speaker 1 (08:21):
Game six of the eighty six World Series is the
most popular, most famous game in World Series history. Huh.

Speaker 3 (08:31):
I can't agree immediately. There's and the Buckner play, and
the Buckner play, the Carlton Fisk has got to be
up there too, and the Buckner play. Yeah, Carlton, that
game that's up there. That's seventy five World Series Red Sox.

Speaker 2 (08:42):
Right.

Speaker 1 (08:42):
There's much more drama surrounding the Buckner play than there
ever has been around superb.

Speaker 3 (08:47):
Drama with the Cubs. Game seven, you have, and that
was a Game seven of the World Series.

Speaker 1 (08:51):
The four best baseball games of most popular, most famous
baseball games of all time, Game six of the eighty
six World Series, Bobby Thompson shot her around the world.
Game one of the eighty eight World Series, Kirk Gibson's
home run, and it'll probably give you Game six of
the of the seventy five World Series, Carlton Fikes home run,
Like those probably the four most famous games baseball games.

Speaker 3 (09:14):
And the Twins Game seven, Jack Morris, John Smoltz, that
was that was big, but not not quite as big.
Didn't have the twists and turns of the other Yeah, yeah,
the full game.

Speaker 2 (09:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (09:22):
I mean like if I said to you that game,
you would like what image would come to your head.
It's a tough one. But if I say seventy five
World Series, it's money, yeah right eighty. Yeah, it's Gibson.
I mean, you see, it's Bobby, It's Ralph Brady. The
Giants have won the Pennant, the Pid.

Speaker 3 (09:39):
Bream scoring two that was a Game seven and LCS
with the Bradspirers.

Speaker 1 (09:42):
That's a big one. Yes, sliding and you know it's
still not a bad throat of the plate for Barry Bonds.

Speaker 3 (09:47):
Not bad, it wasn't. But how can you not get
Sid Bream at the play Micha Lavalliers, he was as
slow as Stanton coming around third in the World Series
this past year, you know, it looked like NFL in
slow motion.

Speaker 1 (10:03):
Now, speaking of the NFL that we had a big
story today. We now know exactly what uniforms that the
Eagles and Chiefs are gonna wear. The Chiefs are gonna
wear their white uniforms and the Eagles are gonna wear
their midnight green uniforms. They can't. Yeah, they can't wear
the Kelly Greens, which is too bad, because my god,
the Kelly Greens are so great. They're one of my

(10:25):
favorite NFL uniforms of all time.

Speaker 3 (10:26):
They look so they don't beat the Chargers AFL uniforms,
but close.

Speaker 1 (10:29):
Theyah the club. They're up there, they're they're the top five.
The Eagles uniform and even you know, me, I think
about the Dolphins, the Dolphins aqua from the seventies, Oh
my goodness, they're they're incredibly outside.

Speaker 3 (10:39):
The down struck era Dolphins.

Speaker 1 (10:41):
Yeah, the Rams blue and white from the sixties, Oh
my god, so good. But you know, obviously, the big
talk today was, hey, the team that wears white has
won sixty four percent of all the Super Bowl games,
and and they've won sixteen out of the last twenty.

Speaker 3 (10:56):
And the Eagles usually don't wear white and usually don't
win the Super Bowl.

Speaker 1 (10:59):
Well, they won, they won a few years ago. They
won that one.

Speaker 3 (11:01):
Yeah, but I think they always wear the green and
they usually don't win the Super Bowl.

Speaker 1 (11:05):
No, that is true. That is true. Now there's a
big take coming off of this because but the thing
about the uniforms, I know, the white uniforms is a thing.
But that can be explained away plenty of times. The
team with the that wore the white uniforms, the team
that was the favorite going in, and the favorites win
the Super Bowl. So there's a way to explain that
away a little bit. But the big thing for me

(11:25):
and I think about this, forget about the jerseys. The
Eagles biggest lesson, right, and we've seen we've seen Mahomes
talk about it. We've seen this happen. Wear white gloves
and wear white cleats, right, Like remember remember Mahomes earlier
this year the Isaiah likely when he caught the touchdown
but came die out of the mountain. What did Mahomes say,
gotta wear white cleats? What do the chiefs do? They

(11:46):
wear white cleats, right, So it's hard to see if
there's a play at the sideline on the turf, and
you know, if they're looking for penalties, you gotta wear
white gloves, right, wear white gloves on the white jerseys.
Maybe you don't get called for a grab. You wear
the the the glove, the black gloves or green gloves. Whatever.
The refs are going to see that more wear the
white gloves, and that's the thing, Like I'm that's the thing,

(12:07):
Like if I am the Eagles, we're all wearing white gloves,
we're all wearing white cleats. That's absolutely what we're gonna do.

Speaker 3 (12:12):
Once we get and add the cleats, once we get
an idea of how the end zone is going to
be painted, because we don't know what the border's going
to be like, right, we have an idea of what
they might paint inside the end zone, but we're talking
about the borders, the out of bounds, which is what
you reference in that early season game with the Ravens.

Speaker 1 (12:27):
Tell you that's my biggest thing. I can help the
Eagles to win this game. I can help America, who
wants to see the Chiefs lose. I can help America
by saying, hey, wear white gloves, wear white cleats. It'll
be better off. You'll get less penalties called, and you'll
probably be marked in bounds.

Speaker 3 (12:41):
That is very, very good point. And then I would
tack on what was always Belichick's point that go ahead
and try and get away with holding more because it
is by far the highest rated game, and with all
those eyeballs on the Super Bowl. He always thought the
NFL like a charge to its officials, regardless of who
the crew that was that day, that they would be

(13:02):
more reticent to call holding because they don't want constant
stoppages in their premier game with the biggest audience. And
I mean it's usually about double what the audience is
in the conference championship.

Speaker 1 (13:13):
I don't care if Clete Blakeman's doing this game. I
don't care if it's Cleete Blakeman and Jerome Boger out
of retirement. You hold every single play, you make it happen.

Speaker 3 (13:22):
But apparently, and you mentioned sixteen of the last twenty
Super Bowl champs war white. Apparently the only teams to
win a Super Bowl in these last twenty years while
not wearing white includes the Chiefs a year ago. There
we go.

Speaker 1 (13:34):
But I'm telling you Eagles, white gloves, white cleats, Oh
my goodness. And I get a Super Bowl ring if
you do that and win exit. How about a fresca?
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The Lakers say they just need a center. Jimmy Butler
is now easy year to move because the heat of

(16:01):
allegedly said, hey, we'll take a little bit less the
Aaron Fox wants out, wants to go to the Spurs.
Nobody better to talk to you about this, and Fox
Sports won NBA. Inside of check out the On the
Ball podcast. He's on Twitter at Rick Buker. That is
Rick Buker, who with all of these headlines.

Speaker 3 (16:18):
I think the most stunning thing I'm gonna say to you,
Rick Buker, is how about those minutes Bronnie James got tonight?

Speaker 5 (16:26):
I was not sure what I was watching when I
saw Bronnie first half, first quarter, I was I was like, wait,
what what what happened here? Okay, I just let's not
go there. Let's not let's not start that way, let's
not start on the wrong foot. Well, we'll never get

(16:47):
off of it.

Speaker 3 (16:48):
And it's not.

Speaker 5 (16:52):
I feel a migraine coming on right now.

Speaker 1 (16:56):
All right, well, let's let's let's stick with this with
the Lakers. Ed you know that This is why I
always say it's it's okay to be tepidly, cautiously optimistic
that maybe the Lakers are okay, because every time they
play win a couple of games, they start getting chesty
and JJ Reddick says something like, we play like this,
we can beat anybody. And then they go and lose
to Philadelphia without Paul George and Joel Embiid and Doctor

(17:17):
J and Bobby Jones, and they say they just need
a center. A d says, we had a center at all.
That's what it was like. We'll win it all.

Speaker 3 (17:25):
If I'm Rob Polinka Rick, I give them a center.
I say, never ask for anything again.

Speaker 1 (17:30):
I can get you. If you want JaVale McGee and
Dwight Howard again. I can get you those guys, but
don't ask for anything else. If you guys need this
to win a title, I'll get this for you. Now
go win.

Speaker 5 (17:39):
Yeah. Well, and here's the thing you can You can
go get a center. You can go you can pull
Dwight Howard out of retirement. I mean, you can go
get a big body and play it at center. They
just I'm I'm blanking on the on the name. They
signed a guy to a two way and gave him
some minutes. This is what I don't understand about the

(18:01):
essence of saying we need a center, other than ad
doesn't want to have to be center. But even that
doesn't really make sense because he also wants he's getting
He says he's gunning for Defensive Player of the Year.
Having to play center for the Lakers and getting the
sympathy vote as the center is probably his best avenue

(18:25):
to that. If they get a legitimate shot block in center,
then he's not going to have the same stats that
he's had trying as the backbone of that defense. And
I do think that he should be considered for Defensive
Player of the Year. But here's my biggest question about
getting a center. And presumably you're getting a center not

(18:47):
just to make the team picture look better, but presumably
so that he plays, and then Anthony Davis moves to
the foe, and then where does Lebron James play. You're
moving him to small forward. He has played predominantly power forward,
and at times he has been the biggest player on

(19:08):
the He's been essentially at the five by default for
the Lakers, and that has worked, particularly defensively, but it's
not going to work if he has to play small forwards.
He can't stay in front of small forwards. He doesn't

(19:28):
want it to be chasing guys on the perimeter. And
then what do you do with Ruey Hatchamura, who essentially
has been put in that position and is ideally a
power forward. I just this is what I don't understand.
I understand. Look without Anthony Davis, Anthony Davis is really
the only rim protection that they have. Jackson Hayes is

(19:49):
a shot blocker, but offensively doesn't give you anything. He's
not going to space the floor. Christian Woods is I
don't know, we'll see him again. I get in one
sense they would want that, but talking about getting a
center as if that's the lynchpin to them winning, like

(20:09):
you're going to play that center a lot of minutes.
That's the part I don't get because then it means
that Lebron James has to play a position that he's
at forty years old, simply not capable of playing. Like, yeah,
he was a point forward, he was a small forward.
He did all of that and you could still do
that offensively, but defensively, now you're asking him to guard threes.

(20:31):
I just that doesn't make any sense to me. Even
if he was willing to do it and put in
the energy athletically, he's not capable of doing that at
this point.

Speaker 3 (20:41):
And as far as the team's defense. Anthony Davis left
due to injury, and then Philly scores almost fifty points
in the second quarter of this game tonight. Now LA
is continuing the Eastern road trip with essentially the game
in DC Thursday night. That's the equivalent of a free
space on your game board, sir.

Speaker 1 (20:58):
And then the game will be a New.

Speaker 3 (21:00):
York on Saturday night. So two questions. Competitive without Davis
at New York and what about competitive to avoid play
in this year overall?

Speaker 5 (21:10):
Mmm, they have a chance just because the Western Conference
is so wobbly. If it continues to be as wobbly
as it's been, then I think they have a chance
to avoid the play in. But if Minnesota gets its
act together, then I don't see Houston falling. I don't

(21:33):
see Memphis falling. It gets real tight. They're they're competing
for one of those six spots with Dallas, which has
stayed in the mix without Luca.

Speaker 3 (21:46):
I what's the Clipper issue just with the Lakers.

Speaker 5 (21:50):
Exactly, and the Clippers are in that mix, I mean
they have I don't want to dismiss them having a
shot because to Jay J. Reddick's point, like when they
when they're playing their absolute best. Yes, they can play
with anybody, they can beat anybody. The problem is is
that you can't do that consistently, and and no one
expects them to do it consistently, and so do I

(22:10):
don't want to dismiss their chance of making the sixth seed,
but that's what they're playing for. They're playing for the
sixth seed, and they are going to need two or
three teams that I would say are better than they
are overall to continue to underperform or have injuries. That

(22:31):
is going to leave that door open. But look, they're
they're in that mix now and I that's that's more
than I would have expected. But I'm not going to
dismiss it, but it's it's Look, if they don't make it,
I would not be the least surprised either.

Speaker 1 (22:47):
And the insider Rick Bucker, our guest Jason Smith, Steve
de Sager here at Fox Sports Radio. All right now,
before we get to d Aaron Fox and Jimmy Butler,
we talked about this beginning of the show. Yes, these
guys are on the trading block and maybe maybe that
he can make it swing a d and you know, now,
maybe de Aaron Fox wants to go to the Spurs.
But I said earlier on the two guys who should
be on the trading block, I'm gonna give you two

(23:08):
guys who should be for different reasons. Joel Embiid okay
and Steph Curry Okay, Joel Embiid. Both sides need a
first start.

Speaker 4 (23:18):
Grew up.

Speaker 5 (23:18):
I just threw up in my mouth a little bit.

Speaker 1 (23:19):
But go ahead, Well, both sides need a fresh start
in Philadelphia. I mean, you've seen the best of Embiid
for the next two postseasons. I think he'll magically be
healthy when he gets to a new team. And clearly
they need to start over.

Speaker 3 (23:30):
And if Steph wants to win, he's got to think
about going someplace else because no one's coming to Golden
State that's going.

Speaker 1 (23:37):
To restart this dynasty. Rick, Who's who are they going
to get? Who's coming to help them win games?

Speaker 5 (23:44):
You're you're looking through the wrong end of the telescope there,
and and I with Joel Embiid, and this is actually
good for you, and I that I agree with half
of your premise. Next that is that is progress somebody
right down the date in the time, because this is

(24:04):
a noteworthy this issue. Absolutely I agree with you one
thousand percent With Joe el Embiid. I believe that he
needs to be someplace where he is a key contributor
and not the guy that carries the load. Like if

(24:25):
you could make a deal and find a way to
get him to Phoenix, for example, you know someplace that
needs size, Sacramento another place that needs size, and you
have other talent there where you're not asking him to
be everything a little bit like he is his role
on the Olympic team this past summer. Give him, give

(24:47):
him that and then maybe you're able to keep him healthy.
But also you just you don't have to count on
him a thousand percent. He can just he can give
you a little bit. I'm with you on that because
the process, that whole thing in Philadelphia that's over, and
Philadelphia is going to be stuck unless they move on
from them. And based on the way his contract is structured,

(25:09):
there's a lot of clauses and provisions in there about
health and everything else. I really I think that's viable.
Now let's get to Steph Curry. One, Why are you
hating on Steph Curry not being able to live his
life and be the guy in the Bay Area he
has entrenched himself in the community. His kids and his

(25:33):
family have a life here.

Speaker 2 (25:35):
That they love.

Speaker 5 (25:36):
He has a life here that he loves. I think
there's a part of him, the old school part of
him that would love to begin and end his career
with the in the same uniform that that has value
for him. But the other part is is Steph Curry
can just look at Damian Lillard going to Milwaukee, that

(25:57):
was supposed to be his opportunity to go chase the
ring that he's never had, but certainly to upgrade his
ability to chase championship. Any place that Steph Curry would
go where he would have a chance to win another title,
he would be the number two guy. It wouldn't be
his team anymore. And so I think he recognizes that

(26:20):
it's not just all about championships. From my conversations with him,
what he loves is the challenge of how can I
maximize the potential of this team? Can I make us
better than anybody expected us to be? And he doesn't
rule out like somehow, you know, playing for another title.

(26:43):
Doing it in twenty one twenty two was somewhat miraculous,
But I just he's not from the school of if
I'm not on a team. He's not in the Lebron
James category of if I'm not playing for a title,
then something's wrong. Either you have to fit you know,
my GM has to fix it, or I have to

(27:04):
threaten to go someplace else. Step is content here and
he knows what he has, and I just don't see
in any way that he wants to give that up,
and nor do I see the Golden State Warriors wanting
to give that up. There's something about Steph Curry that
goes above and beyond the player, and that is just

(27:26):
the person and the culture and the aura that he has.
And even though he's not playing for titles, I will
tell you when I go to when I go to
Chase Center, I still enjoy watching him play and trying
to do the best that he can with this team.
And I would much rather see that continue than to

(27:48):
see him someplace else where. Now he's trying to fit
in to someone else's scheme and someone else's uniform and
someone else's dynamic.

Speaker 2 (27:59):
I just I, for one, do not.

Speaker 5 (28:03):
I have no interest in seeing that, and I don't
believe Steph Curry does either.

Speaker 1 (28:07):
So he's done winning. So he's done winning. Yeah, because
we would say that, yeah, Lebron, Yeah, he's done winning.

Speaker 4 (28:15):
Jason.

Speaker 5 (28:15):
Here's the thing, here's the thing, like, so is Lebron James.

Speaker 1 (28:20):
We knew that I was done after twenty twenty, and you.

Speaker 5 (28:25):
Know what, and and and it happens like this, this
idea that like, I mean, Steph had step and the
Warriors had a longer run, an unusually long run. Look
at look at over the last thirty years the teams.
I mean, we can count on one hand the teams

(28:46):
that have had to have sustained excellence at the level
of the Warriors. You've got what the Lakers in the
three peat, right, You've got the Spurs, and even Spurs
didn't have you know, like back back, right, but it

(29:07):
was extended.

Speaker 4 (29:08):
Right.

Speaker 5 (29:10):
But outside of that, I mean, Boston doesn't fit in
that category. Not even the Miami Heat. They went to
four finals, they won two championships. That that's still not
five finals and four championships for the for the Warriors,
or do I have that wrong? Stix maybe six finals.

Speaker 3 (29:32):
They lost to Cleveland.

Speaker 5 (29:34):
Yeah, they lost to Cleveland, and they lost to Toronto
in the finals, and they still ended up with four rings.
One before KD two with KD and then the twenty
one twenty two, So we have the numbers, right.

Speaker 4 (29:47):
I mean, like.

Speaker 5 (29:50):
The idea that that's supposed to just continue on and
on and on, the league is built so that that
doesn't happen. I mean, honestly, it's it's it's not It's
that the Warriors paid everybody who won them championships, and
at some point you just you run out of money,
and you run out of acet, and you run out

(30:13):
of out of legs because of age and wear and tear,
and that's and that's where the Warriors are. And honestly,
I mean, Steph is doing amazing for a guy thirty five,
thirty six, but he's not the same guy either, And
so I don't even know if you put him on
another team where he had to be the number one guy,

(30:36):
Like what team is that? That's the part, Jason, what
team I gave you? You know, we can talk about
Joelle and being the teams that he could go to
and it would make sense and it would be interesting,
Like give me a team where he would go and
you'd go, Okay, these guys aren't championship contenders. They're kind
of on the cuss. But if they had Steph Curry

(30:56):
and you got to give up something to get Steph, Like,
who is that team? I don't know who that team is?

Speaker 1 (31:01):
Do I just default and say the Knicks? Do I
just I just default and say next?

Speaker 5 (31:11):
Automatic Gough to.

Speaker 3 (31:14):
Just default and say the next I was thinking Portland
until he said on the CUSP.

Speaker 1 (31:18):
Okay, no, yeah, nobody, no last thing.

Speaker 3 (31:22):
I know, we've only got admitted here. But we go
from good guy, good attitude Curry to Jimmy Butler. He's
he's such a parah and maybe with the contract also
that I mean, how does he get moved here in
the next week?

Speaker 5 (31:35):
Yeah, well, honestly, I'm not convinced that he that he will,
simply because Miami would be better served to let him
walk as a free agent than to take on contracts
that are going to mess up them being able to
to build around Bam and Uh and Tyler Hero going

(31:57):
going forward a year from now. And that's that's really
their their focus. They're not going to take back ad contracts.
And the problem is is that Jimmy's worth you know,
Jimmy's Jimmy's making close to fifty million, So you got
to give up fifty million dollars worth of contracts. If
you're a team of of you know of any note ridiculous,

(32:18):
that means two good players. So I just I think
it's going to be really difficult to move him. I
think the way he's acting, the way that he is,
he knows is the last shot at getting a payday.
He knows that Miami is not gonna He's trying to
force them to trade him. I'm going to be such
a pain in the ass that you're just You're going
to take less to in order to get me out
of the building. But I really think that they'll just

(32:38):
continue to suspend him and and and take the Ben
Simmons approach if it if it comes to that, rather
than making a bad deal.

Speaker 1 (32:45):
He's on Twitter at Rick Buker, that is at Rick Buker,
check out Beyond the Ball podcast and Rick obviously to
finish where we began.

Speaker 3 (32:52):
I think stuff with the Lakers would be a pretty
interesting team. That would be a pretty fun team to watch.
I think you'd be okay with him trying to fit
in with the nightly soap opera.

Speaker 1 (33:01):
That would be.

Speaker 5 (33:03):
One for two, yo, one for two.

Speaker 1 (33:06):
I'll take it. I'll take it. Thanks a bunch, buddy.
We'll talk to you next week.

Speaker 5 (33:10):
You got it.

Speaker 1 (33:11):
Let's find out what's trending right now, especially delivery. Steve
Desager has what's going on in the wide world of sports.

Speaker 3 (33:15):
Hello, We've got only four total NBA games, the earlier
wins for Philadelphia and Houston and the two late games
going on right now at Golden State. Steph Curry out
tonight with the bad knee, and over the weekend he
shot four of seventeen from the floor. Right now, Golden
State is winning eighty two to seventy one over the
Utah Jazz late third quarter. Utah has lost six in
a row. At Portland, the Blazers are ahead of Milwaukee

(33:38):
seventy four sixty nine mid third quarter of this game,
despite twenty five points from Jannisontenacumpo. Atlanta's lost six in
a row. Trey Young missed last night's game with a
sore hamstring. He came back and had nine assists eight
turnovers in the home loss to Houston tonight one hundred
to ninety six. At Philadelphia, phil he did not have
the injured Paul George or Joel Embiid, so Tyrese Maxy

(34:01):
scored forty three points in a win over the Lakers
one eighteen to one oh four. Anthony Davis of LA
left with an abdominal strain. Lebron James nine assists, eight
turnovers in defeat the Lakers. Four game winning streak ends
LaMelo Ball if Charlotte is out tomorrow with a sprained ankle.
Chicago Zach Levine out for personal reasons in the late game.
In college hoops, it was number thirteen Texas A and

(34:23):
M beating Oklahoma. Earlier, Kentucky won at Tennessee and eleventh
thran Kansas held on to defeat UCF ninety one eighty seven.

Speaker 1 (34:32):
Thank you, Steve O. The Jason Smith Show with Mike
Carmon lock from the tyreck dot Com studio. Steve Desager
in for Mike Carmon. We got more NBA on the way,
but coming up next, Yes, the Dodgers have gotten another star.
Got that for you, straight ahead. This is Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 2 (34:49):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven
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Speaker 1 (35:00):
Sports Radio. The Jason Smith Show is Steve de Seger
and for Mike Harmon and another day, another star for
the Dodgers.

Speaker 3 (35:13):
This was first reported last week. It was likely going
to happen. Took a little bit longer than expected. Had
to pass a physical. Yeah, I had to make sure
everything was This is an older reliever. U But Kirby
Yates and the Dodgers now in agreement on a one year,
thirteen million dollar contract. This from Jeff Passing, ESPN and others. Now, yeah,
last year he was one of the best relievers in baseball.

(35:36):
He was terrific with the Rangers. And you know the
in this bullpen.

Speaker 1 (35:40):
Now they add Tanner Scott, and they got Trining and
Michael Kopek and and Vesia. And you know, there's two
big takeaways from this, and the first one will go
for the Dodgers' perspective. Just because it's easy to say,
doesn't mean it's not incredibly powerful. But I could and
I can only go by what I've seen, right, So
I'm going back to the late seventies when I first
started watching base I mean, I watched a lot of Mets,

(36:01):
so I mean it. But I can't go back and say, Okay,
let's see the Yankees of the fifties, or the Yankee,
the twenty seven Yankees. It's a different game, different time
since I've been watching baseball. Maybe we'll go back to
the modern era, you say, nineteen eighty and later the
twenty twenty five Dodgers. And this is the best team
on paper that I have ever seen. There's nobody that's
even close. I mean, the Yankee dynasty of the late nineties,

(36:25):
not even close with the depth that the Dodgers have
with both pitching and relieving lineups. Okay, you want to
go lineups, kid.

Speaker 3 (36:32):
Can be similar, but starting pitching, relief pitching, Yeah, it
is insane how deep they are. I saw Colin today
freespo was really interesting. One of the guys, right, I
forget who it was, but it was you could make
Could you make two playoff teams out of the Dodgers roster?

Speaker 1 (36:50):
If you divide it up the right way? Could you
have you could have two playoff teams dividing up the
Dodgers roster. And that's what it is.

Speaker 3 (36:57):
I mean, And again it's easy to say because but
it's so incredibly powerful. This is on paper, this is
the best team I've ever seen.

Speaker 1 (37:05):
And I've seen great teams, man, I've seen great teams
when World Series going, and I've seen great individual teams
in nineteen eighty four Tigers and and I have not
seen eighty six Mets. There's nobody who's been this good,
No roster as good as this roster in nearly the
last fifty years of baseball.

Speaker 3 (37:24):
And emphasis on what you said on paper, because baseball,
more than the other sports on paper, could get you nowhere.
And we've seen that with the Dodgers in recent years.
They've had superb like best ever maybe in the Dodgers history,
regular seasons and then been bounced out quickly because as
I've mentioned before, this isn't like football where you had
the same quarterback going every game. Imagine having a different

(37:46):
quarterback every night. And the Dodgers, well, that's kind of
what I watched with the Jets.

Speaker 1 (37:51):
That's kind of how that's.

Speaker 3 (37:52):
Going most of my life, especially the year before Game one, Oh,
Quarterback Number two. But the Dodgers especially, they'll be remembered
as champions last year. I don't think people will remember
how many pitchers they had to cycle through. My goodness,
last year. It was ludicrous.

Speaker 1 (38:08):
And they know the end of the year going who's
gonna start games in the playoffs and it didn't matter what.
Game four against the Padres was nine relievers in a shutout,
like out of that.

Speaker 3 (38:18):
And then they'll add to the bullpen this offseason. So
the Dodgers, Yeah, they won the West again last year.
They didn't win one hundred games. They weren't I would
think expected to be doing this well regular season in
postseason in twenty twenty four, considering the amount of injuries,
there were eleven pitchers on the injured list at one time.

Speaker 1 (38:37):
Now, they shouldn't have a problem with that.

Speaker 3 (38:39):
Yeah, so you'd overdo it in the starting and relieving
categories now.

Speaker 1 (38:43):
But maybe Clayton Kershaw makes the team. Yeah, that's might
have to start a triple A. I mean, they may
not be room for me.

Speaker 3 (38:49):
You can't keep fifteen pitchers at this point. But this
is the stunning thing for this Dodger bullpen is that
they already kept their right handed closer essentially Blake Trying
because Evan Phillips was hurt, and kept their left handed
closer at Alex Vessio, who's going to arbitration. And then
they add a right handed closer in all Star Kirby

(39:10):
Yates on a one year deal and add Trevor Scott,
a lefty closer. He has been on a multi year deal.
That part is astounding. I will say, as far as
best team I've ever seen, it's probably still the ninety
eight Yankees who wound up winning. I think their winning
percentage was seven fourteen by the end of the year
and swept the Padres in the World Series. And obviously

(39:30):
that bullpen was led by Mariano Rivera. That was such
a good team though, because Scott Brocius wound up being
the star by the end of the postseason, they had
a great team To make this roster, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (39:44):
Scott Broches, wouldn't he be starting in Double A.

Speaker 3 (39:46):
Because he wouldn't have the power that Mounsey has, even
if Munsey's hitting two forty.

Speaker 1 (39:50):
I mean, like, who would you be your third basement
Scott Broch, Max Mounty would be your third. It's not
even closed.

Speaker 3 (39:54):
But remember, I mean Rob Dibble used to work here.
Remember the bullpen that the Reds used to have and
won a World Series with that bullpen in nineteen ninety
where essentially it seemed like they had three closers coming
out of the pen. Yeah, exactly. Randy Meyer is still
pitching back then.

Speaker 1 (40:08):
Now, the other part of it is this because this
is and this is not me sour grapes. This is
just understanding that when Steve Cohen showed up for the
Mets and started spending money like it was burning a
hole in his pocket, Baseball got very upset and they
instituted a tax they call the Cohen Tax, because they
didn't want Steve Cohen spend because he's like, I don't
care about a luxury tax. I'll spend more money than

(40:30):
anybody else, right, Baseball put in a special.

Speaker 3 (40:33):
Tax making it more native you exceeded the tax if
you're spending a lot of money in penalties.

Speaker 1 (40:40):
They didn't want Steve co to do it because, oh,
we can't have the Mets do this. But look at
what the Dodger are doing the same thing, and they're
doing more of it, and yet there's been nothing for
Major League Baseball about it.

Speaker 3 (40:49):
There were nine teams that owed a penalty last year.

Speaker 4 (40:51):
Dodgers owners are upset when when Steinbrenner, now Steinbrenner says, hey,
we can't compete with the Dodgers, When the Yankees are
saying we can't compete with the Dodgers, like, Okay, you
did this for Steve Cohen.

Speaker 1 (41:04):
Are they going to say something for the Dodger? But
the Dodgers are a more heritage team and they're incredibly popular,
and so I really wonder as Baseball gonna do it
because that would only be fair. Hey, you did it
for the Mets, Steve Cohen, you got to do it
here for the Dodgers.

Speaker 3 (41:17):
And the Dodgers have paid the luxury tax four years
in a row. Now, we don't know how long this
ownership group is going to be running it, but as
long as they have, they pretty much always win the
division and then therefore get into the playoffs. It's just
an unprecedented amount of sustained success, I think, since they've
been since Kofex and.

Speaker 1 (41:36):
Now the best roster I've seen on paper in fifty years.
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