January 29, 2025 • 41 mins
Jason Smith and Steve DeSaegher debate if the Lakers are back or not. Jason gives you two NBA superstars that SHOULD be dealt at the deadline. And former Cowboys HC Mike McCarthy will not coach in the NFL this season!
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Speaker 1 (00:32):
Greetings, Welcome inside, Happy Tuesday. Don't do that to me,
you know, ty shirt. The days have blended into one
another from me since college. So I mean, like I
clearly I could actually.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
Miss the day. Oh yeah, dude, when you don't have
that regular schedule.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
Absolutely no, absolutely since college, I'm like, uh, Thursday, Friday,
No Friday, Friday. Especially when I used to work on
the weekends. Like when I worked on the weekends so much,
I was like, yeah, Friday, Like I'm off like Tuesday
and Wednesday weekends not the weekend for you, They're not
real days off, Like I'm off on Tuesday.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
That's great.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
No, But ever since college, like just you know rolls
in and well, you know, Wednesday is no different than Friday,
which is no different than except you know, football on Sunday,
But that was that was it?
Speaker 4 (01:15):
Now that she had sociology like Monday, Wednesday, Friday, and
you knew you had that math class on Tuesday Thursday. Absolutely,
I know what you mean, especially for some of us
who live in a place that doesn't have extreme weather
the various months of the year.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
You're talking about all the classes that I skipped because
it was too cold out. I'm saying, I'm staying in today.
I could play RBI Baseball. No, I'm good, I could play.
I can play. I could play the whole World Series
if I skip my ten am class. Yeah, I'm gipping
my Bennit.
Speaker 3 (01:38):
Jason, don't make me scare you.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
Well, I was scared. What No, when you can scare me, Man,
don't do that. You weren't even here last night.
Speaker 3 (01:46):
I even know that.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
Man, I know everything that's scary that don't even don't
even do that. Man, that's that's too. I'll tell you.
I did have a bad moment last night. I was
finishing that this this horror novel reading was so creepy,
and I finish it and I'm laying down and I'm thinking.
I actually said on the air, I'm gonna be laying here,
I'm gonna think about that creep Duvall from Liam Cohen.
(02:09):
And don't you know a couple of times I woke
up and I'm like, don't you hear something? I mean,
not that I heard Duvall? Obviously, not that I like,
did I did I hear something? Did I hear something?
Did I hear something? Did somebody come in?
Speaker 3 (02:18):
Did Irban Meyer try to run in here and tell
me how it? Say? Oh? That is?
Speaker 2 (02:26):
It's scared so bad.
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get to. But now is I feel like today is
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the day, Steve O that the NBA trade deadline really
kicked into overdrive and we're gonna get there by way
of the game of the night that we just awe
in the NBA tyres Maxy.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
What did he have?
Speaker 1 (03:03):
Seventy five tonight forty three, forty three, forty three in
the first eight minutes. Isn't that what it was? And
he kind of cruised from there.
Speaker 4 (03:09):
Actually it was about seventy five at halftime for Philly
because they can score it will and soon Anthony Davis
went out.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
Uh, the Sixers roll the Lakers one eighteen, one oh
four Frostburg.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
Are the Lakers back? Are they still back? No? Texas
football is back. I'm sure not. Bet let me back Saturday.
Let'll be back to Okay? Are you sure about that?
Sure about okay? Play the next come on?
Speaker 1 (03:32):
This is you know, this is And this is why
people now understand why I say, hey, there's no reason
if you want to be tepidly, cautiously optimistic that maybe
it's a possibility that the Lakers might be okay, because
this is what they do. They play a couple of
good games in a row, and everybody says, oh, look
at this, they figured it out. Now Austin Reeves is
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going to score thirty five a game. Now it's not
Dalton Connect anymore.
Speaker 3 (03:58):
He was great off the bench tonight.
Speaker 1 (03:59):
Ad is gonna score sixty and we're gonna and then
they have games like this where really you went into Philadelphia,
who's playing without and beating Paul Georgian. You didn't even
sniffle win, like this is what the Lakers do, like.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
Because Davis wasn't there.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
I don't know if it's it's that the Lakers can't
handle success, but boy, they win a couple of a
row and you certainly see JJ Reddick getting all chesty
and yeah, we play like this, we can beat anybody. Dude,
you've watched what we've watched this team, right, you know
that you can win a couple of games and then
you lose a couple of games. Like I give them credit.
There's seven games over five hundred, which is not bad,
but in the end there's still they win a couple
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of games and then they have a night like this
where I mean.
Speaker 4 (04:35):
Come on, not their first this year, and memo to
coach JJ Reddick, tonight, you couldn't have beaten those plumbers
from the nineteen sixties.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
I mean, it's just an amazing I mean, look ad
ten minutes tonight. Obviously, but this is a game that's
still you're playing against against Tyres maxing a bunch of
guys in the G League. I mean, Cox's very good
by the way, not maxis because there's a bigger point
to make with Tyres Maxy. But like, I mean, look
and Gordon's not bad, and Kelly Oubray once in a
while is like, oh good as Kelly, But like this
is this, this told you. This is why the Lakers
(05:03):
are so maddening. Like they can't they can't handle success.
They can't find a way to sustain anything. And it's
and I don't know if it's just mentally they don't
have the forty two to be able to do it,
or it's just they they again, they can't handle success
and they think we have it and they come up
with efforts like this against the Sixers and the team
that's quit that is like wait, waiting for the deadline
(05:25):
to come and go like this is the late This
is why I can't ever really believe in the Lakers.
It's nice they're playing a little bit better.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
That's good.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
But every time you start thinking about it, this is
what happens anytime they went three and row, Hey, that's great,
all look at this. Look at the Lakers that it's
gonna be this is Ben's like better when they had
magic and Kareem know they had Shaq and Kobe. At
the same time they had Worthy and Wilkes and Michael
Cooper and said Sebalos and Nick Van Exell. There twelve
man rotation of those guys. And then they come up
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with a game.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
Like this, Yes, four records.
Speaker 4 (05:56):
The Lakers with two minutes to go in the first
quarter were leaving and Anthony Davis when out of the game.
And after that over one hundred points scored by Shilly.
Speaker 3 (06:04):
Yeah. How long is the game? Is it a quarter?
It is four quarters? They haven't learned that yet. A right,
we just have a center. Well that's all.
Speaker 4 (06:12):
The guy who left injured tonight is the guy who
asked for a little front line help.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
By the way, now know when this game was over, guys,
the second Brownie James checked in. Oh man, that was
also first quarter. Yeah, he checked in and Tyre smack.
He said, oh, hey, time to go to school.
Speaker 3 (06:26):
That's a human white flying. It's time for you to
go to school.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
I know.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
Yeah, we had a year at college. Oh, you're gonna
get some right now.
Speaker 4 (06:33):
The Lakers were up eight when he checked in in
the first quarter, so his plus minus is.
Speaker 3 (06:37):
Just awful tonight.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
Yeah, no, not good. Although it's awful too. Hey, the
dog connect was pretty good off the bed tonight, but
a lot of it. Look, it was garbage time. The
Lakers didn't threaten right.
Speaker 4 (06:46):
Well, they give up almost fifty points in the second quarter,
so it really wasn't a game.
Speaker 3 (06:50):
Yeah, it's a second question.
Speaker 4 (06:52):
And I again point to Anthony Davis leaving with the
abdominal strain. And the Lakers did play a game last night,
so we know they're not playing a game tomorrow. But
at one point it was twenty five point deficit at Philly,
a team that was missing the two stars.
Speaker 3 (07:04):
Max Ay scored forty three.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
Now here's the deal. We're gonna get into Dearon Fox
and Jimmy Butler, who are the two big stars that
are on the trading block now? But I've said this
a couple of times, and I think a night like
tonight also bears it out. The Sixers are done with
the incarnation of the team that has been built around
Joel Embiide for the better part of the last decade.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
They're done. He's done. He's not healthy, he's not playing.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
You don't trust the process. He's done the process. We
trusted the process for a long time. Eventually in a
new process. Okay, the process is only going to go
so long, might go a decade. How long is this processing?
Speaker 3 (07:41):
We need a long time. We need a long they do.
We need a long long time.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
Like the Jets process of getting back to the playoffs,
and we need at least a decade, maybe even more.
It's over in Philadelphia. The season is over. They're not
going to the playoffs. It's a situation in which they
can't get their star healthy and on the floor. I
don't know how much he's motivated to actually be on
the floor. Of all the names that are out there
for the trade deadline, right we're hearing dearon Fox and
(08:05):
Paul and Paul George. We're hearing dearon Fox and obviously
Jimmy Butler. The last few days, we'll get to that.
The two names that honestly need to be out there
are Joel Embiid and Steph Curry. Those are the names
that need to be out there. Embiid, I can't I
can't tell you how bad Philadelphia needs a fresh start
and how much he needs a fresh start, especially when
you see the Sixers win a couple of big games
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in the last week. Remember to be Cleveland, and you know,
without Embiid, and here's a team that is now built
around Tyrese Maxi. You move on from the money you
owe Joel Embiid and you start over again. Right you have,
you have, you have Maxie and Paul George. Okay, it'll
be easy to get another star. You have seen the
best of Joel Embiid. How healthy is he really going
to be the rest of his career?
Speaker 3 (08:48):
Now?
Speaker 1 (08:48):
He still is someone who will bring a decent amount
in a trade because a team will look at him
and say, maybe he's motivated in a change of scenery.
And the next two postseasons, I feel pretty good. I
feel pretty good that Joel Embiid new situation this postseason,
next postseason, you'll get a lot out of him, right
because this is what happens in the NBA with starts
who decide I've quit on one team, but I'm in
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a new location. That's never great, Right suddenly I'm great.
We've seen it with James Harden, We've seen it with
Chris Paul See, it was so many players multiple times
right right now? Yeah hard until he just gets tired
that I'm reading them ready to.
Speaker 4 (09:21):
Go by the way Philly is. Even with the win tonight,
they're not even into the play it. They're not even
tenth in the Eastern Conference standing. So I know we've
got a while to go, but we are past the
halfway point of the season.
Speaker 3 (09:32):
Now.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
It's they're done and they know they need to move
on and start the new seventy six ers, which is
Maxi George. Howver long it is, and you can get
another start. He can bring somebody else in and it
makes sense for Embiid to go as well because Embiid
needs that fresh start. He's just it's like both sides
are just just going in circles right now waiting. And
(09:54):
I guarantee you Joel Embiid would be magically healthy if
he went to another team all of a sudden going
to be hey, oh but he's out of it. No, No,
he's starting. He's starting today, he said forty minutes. He's
ready to go.
Speaker 3 (10:04):
He will be magically healthy if he got traded to
another team.
Speaker 4 (10:06):
They're going in circles because only one leg works, so
he's actually.
Speaker 3 (10:10):
Walking around, he goes straight around. The trade him. Does
he actually have to physically able.
Speaker 4 (10:15):
To be able to walk to the plane or how
do they get him, because I don't know how that works.
Speaker 3 (10:20):
It's it's you know, you mentioned Fox.
Speaker 4 (10:22):
The irony is now that the Lakers are leaving town
losing at Philly tonight, Sacramento is the next team in
and it's tomorrow night. And it was today the reports
that Sacramento is open to trading dearon Fox, who's been
a key to this offense for years.
Speaker 1 (10:37):
They need more cow bells, you know, just for a
second with the uh with with the Daron Fox on
the on the trading block. Oh by the way, just uh,
you know, let let's pour one out for light the
beam because I feel like light the beam is kind
of over now, and.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
So really I feel, well, if you're trading the.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
Guys the I mean, it's not like yeah, but maybe
maybe you're just kind of maybe the beam will pulse
a little bit. Maybe pulse the beam a little bit.
Speaker 3 (11:03):
Maybe.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
Uh, let's let's you know, you know, what do they
call it when you have the not the safety lights,
but when the lights are on really low in a
room just to just to illuminate it, you know, like
that that's kind of where they're at with the light
to beam.
Speaker 3 (11:16):
Like some earthquake outage happens, and the emergency light.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
Yeah exactly, it's like a, well, they're not really that bright,
but they still kind of light things, so it still
kind of looks like that. But look if if and
the Sixer and the and the Warriors have been mentioned
as a destination potentially for dearon Fox, also mentioned for
Jimmy Butler on one of his preferred UH lists. But really,
the two names that need to be there, like I said,
are Joel and Beat and Steph Curry because Curry's got
(11:41):
to realize that if he's going to win again, it's
not going to be a Golden State.
Speaker 3 (11:45):
It's not.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
And He's got to decide what's more important to me.
Do I want to give away the last seven or
eight years of my career and put up some empty
stats just to be a one.
Speaker 3 (11:55):
One team? Like I get that, that is very that
very attractive. There's some currency to.
Speaker 1 (12:01):
But you want to win at some point, and I
know he wants to win because I watched him win
all the gold medals in the gold medal game.
Speaker 3 (12:07):
Give me the ball, give me the ball. We're gonna
give me the ball game awesome.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
He should have had all the gold Medals, So I
know he still wants to win, and he's got to
understand that nobody's gonna go there right there, you know.
And he's already said, look, don't make a trade if
it's going to ruin the future of the team. The
young players for the Warriors haven't come along. The dynasty
is over, and they're not trending upward. They're not winning
more games. That had a nice start to the season
(12:31):
when Steve Kerr was playing I think fifteen guys a night,
like everybody was coming off the bench of playing at
least ten minutes. But now they settled back into this
is kind of who they are, just like the Lakers
are who they are. This is who the Warriors are.
They're a five hundred is team. They'll win at home.
Curry will still give you big nights once in a while,
but they're not nearly as good as the other teams
in the West. And there's no one player coming in
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that's going to make that happen. Jimmy Butler's not gonna
make that happen, right, Darren Fox is not gonna make
that happen. Not that the Kings would actually trade him
to Golden State. But this is where Steph Curry's got
to realize, if I'm going to win in the next
two or three postseasons will be the end of my prime.
Most likely, I gotta go someplace if I want to win,
and you can. It doesn't need to be a seventy
(13:11):
six ers and beat situation where it's I hate you,
you hate me. With trading, this can be one of
those Hey, we're talking and we're all together on this.
Speaker 3 (13:20):
We want to give Steph a chance to win.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
And and Steph's everybody can cry in Golden State, and
everybody can can can you know, can can wear the
Steph Curry jerseys, and Steve Kirk can cry that he's
being traded, and Steph Curry can cry that he's being traded.
All of these things can happen, Steve, and I'm okay
with you can do that because eventually he wants to
do that one year at the end back at Golden State.
He's always going to be a warrior, right, He's always
going to be a Golden State warrior. So but if
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he wants to win, he's got to say, Okay, let
let me go someplace and you can help the warriors
bring in new players, right, do something else. But the
dynasty is over. And if he wants to win, he's
got to decide what's more important and if and and
he should decide that I need to go someplace else
if I really want to win, because he's he's one
of those over the top guys like Jimmy Ballard.
Speaker 3 (14:03):
Do you ever but he's like, hey, you go to
a team that suddenly, all of a sudden, we got
Steph Curry. He's scoring twenty eight a game. And now look,
look we can't do any wrong. We're just adding we're
adding a shooter. Did we get him the ball?
Speaker 1 (14:15):
And it goes in the net all the time because
we watched it from afar for the last decade. Now
he's doing it for us, like he isn't over the
top guy, and if he wants to win, he's got
to go with.
Speaker 4 (14:24):
This past week, though he tried to play against the
Lakers over the weekend with four seventeen shooting from the
floor and with the bad knee, is not playing in
that late game that's underway Golden State hosting Utah tonight.
But I'm reminded of when Junior Say, All Pro linebacker
for years with the Chargers, and we all thought he
was going to be a lifetime Charger when he got dealt.
Speaker 3 (14:43):
His comment after.
Speaker 4 (14:44):
The trade is if this helps the Chargers to be better,
then I'm fine with it. That was kind of an
astonishing comment. But even more so, I think that would
apply to Steph Curry because you're right, just like Michael
Jordan's always a Chicago Bull. It doesn't matter what happens
from here on out, Steph curR Will absolutely always be
a Golden State Warrior. But that team, and I know
(15:04):
it's been three short years less than that since they
won the title again when they beat Boston and Jason
Tatum in the finals. Aside from that season, it's been
mostly for about six years now following that dynasty.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
They squeezed that last one out against the Celtics and
that's been it. It's either play in not getting in,
and currently it's more of the same. Either Sacramento or
Golden State might be missing even the.
Speaker 3 (15:30):
Play in April exit. How about a fresca?
Speaker 1 (15:32):
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trading block, and those two superstars absolutely should, what about
the other guys who could possibly maybe become an NBA
title contender if they add Vox, if they add Jimmy Butler,
if they have Lebron James. Oh, sorry, Frostburg too soon,
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but news that's just come in.
Speaker 3 (18:00):
Apparently the choice was.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
Hey, Mike McCarthy, it's the Saints or nobody, and Mike
McCarthy has said, Okay, I choose nobody. According to NFL
Networks Tom Pellisero and Ian Rappaport, Mike McCarthy, late of
the Dallas Cowboys, has decided to sit out the twenty
twenty five season, instead focusing on the openings that will
(18:24):
come after the twenty twenty five season end, so he
will look to get back into the mix a year
from now. In twenty twenty six. He may as well
be saying, hey, Jerry, thanks a lot for screwing me
by not letting me go and holding on to me
for that extra week. Thanks a lot, Jerry Jones. At
least Jerry Jones for the most part, had stuck to
I'm just gonna screw the Cowboys with decisions I make.
Speaker 3 (18:44):
Now he's outside of the cowboys. Got you what anymore?
Speaker 4 (18:47):
Part of this is also other people not choosing Mike
McCarthy because there were what six openings this offseason. New
Orleans is the last opening they gave Kellen Moore, ironically,
a former Dallas assistant, a second interview let last night
we mentioned that during last night's show, McCarthy had not
been interviewed by the Saints.
Speaker 3 (19:05):
And now he's not going to be coaching this year.
Speaker 1 (19:06):
You know, I will say this because yes, he did
get a chance to talk to Bears talked to him
right after.
Speaker 4 (19:12):
But there but the Bears talked to Harmon and everybody else.
It's your list of fifty.
Speaker 3 (19:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
Yeah, the Bears hired Ben johonns I was actually going
in next and they said, oh hey, that's great.
Speaker 3 (19:21):
But there is that thing.
Speaker 1 (19:23):
Yes, he was able to get a couple of interviews,
but how serious of a candidate was he really? Because
if a team's going to hire somebody as a head coach, right,
you have a list of people. You're thinking about people
for a long time. Look, the Jets knew they were
going to have the opening that they did. The Bears
knew they were going.
Speaker 3 (19:38):
To have the open think that way we did talk
about the Cowboys.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
Lest right, Well, well it just gets the Cowboys, is that?
But nobody knew that Mike McCarthy was going to be available.
So when the Jets and the Bears and these teams
that know they're going to have openings, right, the Saints,
like three quarters of the teams all know they're going
to have openings. Right, we didn't know the Raiders were
going to have an opening. But okay, but when three
quarters of the teams know they're gonna have an opening,
(20:02):
here's the guys we're gonna talk to, right, We're gonna
do research now on Ben Johnson, on Aaron Glenn, on
Mike Vrabel, all these guys. When all of a sudden,
a week after the season ends, Mike McCarthy is thrown in,
it's well, can we really hire the guy?
Speaker 4 (20:15):
Like?
Speaker 3 (20:16):
I know we like him? Then you know, he's been
a really good head.
Speaker 1 (20:18):
Coach and won the Super Bowl with the Packers, and
he's won twelve games year with the Cowboys and coaching
in Dallas with all that chaos and being able to
win as much as he did is a good thing
for him. But how serious of a candidate can he
be when all of a sudden, late in the game,
and I mean late to the research and late to
the looking into it, and the phone calls on the
background of what you need to do for each candidate,
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like it really is impossible to hire at that point.
Jerry Jones absolutely screwed him by letting him stay, Like
if you're not gonna let if you're not gonna let
him go, man, let him go and go do something else.
Speaker 4 (20:51):
Or Jerry Jones thinks we'll talk after the regular season
ends bad as hears it was, no, the contract is up,
but we can just get an agreement on extending this thing.
And when they couldn't come to an agreement, then here
it is thirteenth of January, after the regular season, when
obviously other teams are already going through their candidates with
(21:11):
their opening. Some have had openings for a while because
some coaches lost their jobs during the season. And then
McCarthy is available on the thirteenth a couple of weeks ago,
and Cliff Kingsbury, for example, was going to be a
candidate New Orleans with the opening, and he decides I'm
not going to interview for the Saints head coach opening.
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I'm going to stay at Washington. But you know how
crammed it was, even with Ben Johnson and the team
making a run in the playoffs, and with Kingsbury with
his Washington team making a run in the playoffs. It
a little bit reminds me of some of the offseason
craziness with college football. How you've got recruiting but during
bowl games and so the schedule is for one thing
is on top of the schedule for another. It would
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be easier if all of these interviews and all of
these decisions from front office could happen a little bit
later in January up until the new league year begins
in mid March.
Speaker 3 (22:05):
If if you.
Speaker 1 (22:06):
Know that you're debating on whether or not you want
to stay, whether or not you're gonna keep him, I
mean it, it's Jerry Jones nose. And all of a sudden,
Mike McCarthy didn't show up with this offer, this Scott
Boris type offer to coach the team, and Jerry said,
oh no, that it's way too much money.
Speaker 3 (22:22):
We're not ready to spend that.
Speaker 1 (22:23):
You good luck you pedal that peede a Lonzo someplace else.
We'll give him three years and seventy million, but not
a penny more.
Speaker 4 (22:29):
Well, i'm not sure it's Jerry involved, So I'm not
sure how much logic, as logical as this may be,
I'm not sure how much that applies to a Jerry decision.
Speaker 3 (22:37):
And I'm sorry.
Speaker 1 (22:38):
I actually I thought I sent the email a week
ago that said we're not renewing you, but I saw
it was in my drafts, and Steven told me got
to actually press the send button, and I said, oh,
so then I sent, here you go.
Speaker 3 (22:49):
You should have it. Now, there you go. We're letting
you go.
Speaker 4 (22:52):
We're gonna get something cheaper, and we're gonna be back
to having ice cream as they deserved over in the
commiss here.
Speaker 1 (22:58):
You know, I let the neap and flavors give you
three choices in just one bit, but if you have
more than one flavor Neapolitan, we're gonna charge you extra.
So for one scoop of ice cream is five dollars.
But one scoop of Neapolitan, because you get a little
bit of chocolate, little bit of an, a little bit
of strawberry, that's gonna be fifteen dollars. For the same
That's how I make money. You think I didn't go
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to business school to learn how to not make money.
That's how I make money here. And we only serve Neapolitan,
and everybody make sure to get all three in every
scoop they get.
Speaker 3 (23:27):
So he had more choices of the ice cream than
he had for coaches.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
Is Brian Schottenheimer and nobody now speaking of being somebody
or nobody, Jordan Schultz, NFL insider, who is piggybacking on
this report, says that there was no interest in Mike
McCarthy for the Saints, So that means so that must
mean hey boy, now that Dallas Cowboys. This is like
World War Z where the zombies are just expanding. So
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this probably means that we're gonna wind up getting Kellen
Moore to be the Saints head coach. It's probably gonna
be Kellner.
Speaker 4 (23:59):
Last night's discussion with him, they went in person to
talk with him in person.
Speaker 1 (24:03):
Yes, oh man, I'll tell you this is the most
uninspiring head coaching hiring cycle.
Speaker 3 (24:10):
I think that.
Speaker 4 (24:11):
Which is a match for the kind of let's say
draft choices we get in April to start this next
season with rookies. It's there was a lot of bang
zoom splashed last year in some hires and some draft choices,
and it's kind of looking like the opposite of that
for twenty twenty five NFL.
Speaker 1 (24:28):
I mean, look at the top three guys, right, the
top three guys in some kind of order, Mike Rabel,
Ben Johnson, Aaron Glenn And even as as the process
went on, Mike Rabel was going to the Patriots. Okay,
we knew that was happening. Yeah, And really, in a
normal year of coaching openings, Rabel is fifth or sixth
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of the guy because he's a regurgitated head coach, right,
he was there, he got fired. Who's trying to get
back in to be a coach somewhere in there, He's like,
he's like down at the fifth or sixth option. A
guy like Ben Johnson Normally, Hey, he's really hot, left,
but how much was he not hot at the end
of this year? Right, Like the Bears bit against themselves
(25:10):
to get him, and you thought he's a guy that's
gonna walk in And even though the Lion set a
record for touchdowns in a season like any I think
anybody could have had Ben Johnson and Aaron Glenn, who
I love the Jets getting Aaron Glenn because he's uniquely
qualified for the Jets, being a guy that's played there
and played for Woody Johnson. Like these are guys that
are they that exciting in a normal coaching cycle.
Speaker 2 (25:31):
They're not.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
And meanwhile, the openings are usually a little bit more
exciting as well. But when it's the Jets and the Patriots,
all the bottom feet.
Speaker 3 (25:38):
Are tanks are just tear.
Speaker 1 (25:39):
I mean the Bears were the best by default. I
mean think about that. When the Bears are the best opening,
what does that tell you about where the openings are? Like,
all the openings weren't good. This is it's a very
uninspiring cycle. And I don't know, maybe Mike McCarthy's sitting
back thinking, man, I couldn't get one of these jobs.
Speaker 5 (25:55):
Oh wow, I got it, all right. I just gonna
wait another year and see what works out for me.
But I love the way it's phrased in the NFL
Network report. Obviously they get the report because they're talking
to his representatives. You know what, We're just gonna stand
down this offseason and we're just gonna go into the
hiring cycle in twenty twenty six after next season. As
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if this is his decision, that's how it's quoted. Let's
say that's how it's passed along to us the consumer.
I think this segment fleshes that out.
Speaker 3 (26:24):
A little bit more. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (26:25):
I mean, look, I think that McCarthy in a normal
in a normal situation in which the day after the
season ends, you're either staying or you're going, he has
a job. I'm pretty sure he has a job somewhere
because the CEO head coach is kind of in vogue now.
Whereas he's got a better resume than some of these guys.
Guy's got a super Bowl, he's got he's an offensive coach.
Speaker 3 (26:47):
Recently it wins three years in a row for.
Speaker 1 (26:50):
This Cowboys, and being that guy, being the CEO head
coach is what's really valuable now because the the shine
is kind of off the great coordinators and even though
a raid head coach can come from anywhere, he doesn't
need to be a coordinator, could be a quarterbacks coach
and someone that can lead a program. But the CEO
head coaches that have led a program and will stop
the backsliding, these guys are. These guys are really in
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demand right now. Like you saw, the Raiders made the
best hire. They hired a guy. I know the backsliding
is gonna stop with Pete Carroll. I don't know how
much better the Raiders are gonna be, but I know
they won't backslide anymore.
Speaker 3 (27:22):
Still need a quarterback. And the same thing with the Patriots.
Speaker 1 (27:25):
I don't know how good they're gonna be, but they're
not going to backslide anymore. The Jets are out on
a limb a little bit. With Aaron Glenn Bunch, he's
a guy that knows Europe. But those teams is who's there?
Where they were?
Speaker 4 (27:33):
The reports of the undisciplined and stuff, you know that stops.
You would think with guys like Frabo, right Yeah.
Speaker 1 (27:39):
And if McCarthy had jumped in right after the season
and teams knew the day after the regular season, here's
our guys who are available, he would have been much
more on the radar of teams. He would have been
brought in right away as a big candidate. But when
you don't, sometimes you need to think about a possibility before.
Speaker 3 (27:57):
You can really pull the triggerud.
Speaker 1 (27:58):
Some think it's too it's too early to make it
decision on it, and and it's and you say, well, boy,
we like this guy, but we haven't had the proper
time to chew this around and vet it and see
what his impact. We can talk to him twice in person, right,
we don't have that time, so we really we can't
treat him very seriously, like, well, we'll talk to him,
but we can't treat him seriously as a candidate. Whereas
(28:18):
if he goes after the after the first day, Hey,
he's brought in the Jets talk, well, maybe the Jets
still because Aaron Rodgers says, no way, man, no.
Speaker 3 (28:25):
If I'm gonna stay, he's not coming. Are you implying
that he's worked with?
Speaker 1 (28:30):
But other teams can say, oh, yeah, we want to
talk to him, because I think teams do see that, Hey,
McCarthy was able to win in Dallas, where there's all
kinds of chaos.
Speaker 3 (28:40):
All the time. It's a circus.
Speaker 1 (28:42):
If you can win in the circus, you can win
where there's less of a circus. Now granted we're a
circus too because we're looking for a head coach, but
if you can win in that circus, we can trust
you here.
Speaker 3 (28:51):
But something even though it's a week.
Speaker 1 (28:53):
That's a big week for teams to say, yes, we
can put him on our board and and chew it
around and vet it right. But when the week goes
by and Okay, now we can talk to him. Well,
we've already had interviews with five people we know who
were zoom, we know who were zeroing in on. We're
gonna have second zoom interviews with people. We're gonna have
a first in person interview here. And all of a sudden,
McCarthy's not a guy who gets let go. That suddenly
(29:16):
is oh, you only need to meet him for five
minutes and hire him, right. It's not like if Mike
Tomlin got let go hey right away, a team would
snap him up right If Kyle Shanahan got let go,
a team would snap up right away, Kevin O'Connell, all
these great young coaches, Sean McVay, if he got let
go by the Rams, he'd be snapped up right away. No,
McCarthy's a guy. Well we got to think we had
to look into it. So yeah, I mean, that week
(29:36):
really screwed him. And if that, if it was a
different week, we'd be doing a different story.
Speaker 4 (29:40):
I would love to know if there's been any private discussion,
even among just two employees who are front off as
football executives of you know, we recently hired a new
head coach this offseason, but man, I think we could
have had McCarthy, you know, not quite buyer's remorse, and
that's not all I am. I mean you might have
(30:01):
a knee church reaction say yes, of course, Well, I
mean the Cowboys had a hire obviously that they wouldn't
the Jets, I doubt right would say, oh man, we
could have I doubt they would. I think the Raiders
are quite happy with who they got, and they've gone
in a different direction and needed to. As far as
coach hire Patriots, I'm sure they're fine with who they got,
getting an ex Patriot who's been an NFL head coach.
(30:23):
You mentioned the Bears with Ben Johnson, who was throughout
this past season the hot coordinator that oh he's gonna
be an NFL. Whether he succeeds as a head coach,
who knows, but absolutely soon, sooner rather than later, he's
going to be an NFL head coach. And sure enough
Chicago got him, which means we're left with mister Duval,
the Jacksonville higher I know they loved the offense. They
(30:49):
saw that he ran with Tampa Bay. It was impressive
this past year. But I wonder if there's just part
of him being Jacksonville. You know, they had a lot
of years with haven't done much. There's a reason why
they say, yeah, we'll have a home game in England.
Speaker 3 (31:02):
Can we have two d.
Speaker 4 (31:05):
I wonder if somebody's thinking, I wonder, I wonder if
we should have.
Speaker 3 (31:10):
I wish we'd have had a chance exit out about
a Fresca.
Speaker 1 (31:15):
Jason Smith Steve to say, you're in for Mike Harmon again,
the news just a few minutes old. Mike McCarthy will
not seek a head coaching position in the NFL this year,
which really was the Saints or nothing, and we'll focus
instead on getting back into it in twenty twenty six.
More on this and the Night in sports. Steve de Sager,
who they say is kind of like the Mike McCarthy
of here a soft Fox Sports radio.
Speaker 3 (31:34):
Excuse me. He works really well in chaos, he's got
what's trending. I know it wasn't a comment about my weight.
We'll get to the NFL news in just a moment.
Speaker 4 (31:43):
But reliever Kirby Yates has passed his physical and we'll
sign with the Dodgers. He was an All Star with
Texas last year. Gets a one year deal thirteen million dollars.
Yates turns thirty eight in March. Washington Commander's offensive coordinator
Cliff Kingsbury will stay with the team. New Orleans gave
Kellen Moore a second inner last night. The Cowboys hired
Matt Eberflus's defensive coordinator.
Speaker 3 (32:04):
He had been the Bears head coach. Mike Zimmer will
likely retire.
Speaker 4 (32:07):
Chicago formally announced Dennis Allen as its defensive coordinator. Detroit
two offensive coordinator is John Morton, who is with Denver
for one year. The Raiders reportedly interviewed Darryl Bebble for
offensive coordinator. He worked for Pete Carroll in Seattle.
Speaker 3 (32:20):
Baltimore say who you see?
Speaker 1 (32:22):
I forget who was it that called that passing play
on the goal line in the Super Bowl?
Speaker 3 (32:25):
Who was Oh, that's right, that's right.
Speaker 4 (32:28):
Yeah, the team with Marshawn Lynch. Marshawn Lynch, who of
course crashed Pete Carroll's.
Speaker 3 (32:32):
News conference with Vegas earlier this week.
Speaker 4 (32:35):
Baltimore is hiring Chuck Pagano as secondary coach or quote
senior secondary coach, so he is not retired. The Browns
say they're not interested in trading away defensive end Miles Garrett.
He's been a First Team All Pro four times. Last
Sunday's AFC Championship drew over fifty seven million TV viewers,
breaking last year's record for an AFC title game.
Speaker 3 (32:56):
Ratings by this method go back to nineteen eighty eight.
This NFC Championship game had forty four million viewers.
Speaker 4 (33:03):
The Eagles have chosen to wear their home green uniforms
in the Super Bowl in a couple weeks as the
designated home team. They can choose, so Kansas City will
wear white. Philadelphia cannot wear its alternate jersey, so no
Kelly Green, just the Dark Green. The Super Bowl will
be in New Orleans a week from Sunday on Fox
TV and the WNBA. Britney Griner agreed to a deal
(33:24):
with Atlanta. Phoenix is acquiring Alyssa Thomas from Connecticut. She's
finished top five for MVP in each.
Speaker 3 (33:30):
Of the last three years.
Speaker 4 (33:31):
You have two late games in the NBA early second quarter.
Golden State is leading twenty nine twenty seven over.
Speaker 3 (33:37):
Utah, which has lost six in a row.
Speaker 4 (33:39):
At Portland, it's the Bucks ahead of the Blazers forty
two to thirty five early in the second quarter. The
two other games are finals. Houston sent Atlanta to a
six straight loss one hundred to ninety six. Philadelphia beat
the Lakers one eighteen, one oh four Tyrese Maxi forty
three points. Anthony Davis of LA left with an abdominal string.
Speaker 3 (33:58):
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Speaker 3 (34:32):
Well, we got more.
Speaker 1 (34:33):
NFL coming up a bit. We wanted to bring you
that big breaking news about Mike McCarthy. But straight ahead,
two stars are on the trading block in the NBA.
Where should they end up going? We'll tell you that's next.
Speaker 2 (34:43):
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Speaker 2 (35:15):
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of Jerry Jones, we had the big story with Mike McCarthy,
who's going to sit out this year and try to
(35:42):
become a head coach next year. We'll have more on
Matt and a big super Bowl story coming up in
about ten minutes. But you know, we started the hour
Steve talking about the guys who the superstars who should
be on the trading block as the deadline approaches, Joelle Embiid,
Steph currye hundred percent.
Speaker 3 (35:57):
But the two guys we know are out there. It's
Feb six in the NBA.
Speaker 1 (36:01):
We're getting close to it, Like I just look how
we're sneaking up to it, like it's this weekend.
Speaker 3 (36:04):
We're getting close. We're getting there.
Speaker 4 (36:06):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (36:07):
De Aaron Fox who now is going to be shopped
by the Sacramento Kings and his preferred destination is sit down.
His preferred destination is San Antonio. And of course Jimmy Butler,
who has now been suspended for the eleventh time this season. Uh,
he gets to spend it more than Steve Howe. I
think he's been Uh he's got his This is just
(36:30):
one month. His three suspensions give him time three and
one mon Yeah, that's something Uh every ten days. It's
I saw that clockwork a suspension.
Speaker 3 (36:38):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (36:38):
Now it's more likely he's going to be dealt because
according to Yahoo, the heat have realized, oh we're not
going to get a lot for them, so they have
lowered their trade demands. Now the best places for both
of them right now. If you're de Aaron Fox boy,
if the Spurs are able to get him, look out.
The new era of the Spurs is going to be
here right away because the Aaron Fox is a baller,
(36:59):
right guy all Team NBA two years ago, as long
as they'd have to give up Stefan Castle. He was
a guy who said, listen to guy's a guy. I'm
gonna take number one in the draft. He is everything
you want in to player, combo guard, great defender, like
top five pick.
Speaker 3 (37:11):
He's what you want.
Speaker 1 (37:11):
And right now, in anybody's rookie estimation, he is the
second best rookie of the year on the board right
and he is just continuing to get better. So I
don't want to give him up. The fact that he
can slide over and play different positions. If they don't
have to give him up and they can go bring
in De Aaron Fox, I'm telling you, by this time
next year, the Spurs will be a top three team
(37:32):
in the West because they're kind of getting there now
with Wemby becoming the star he is now. But you
had de Aaron Fox, and all of a sudden, this
is gonna be a Timberwolves or Oklahoma City jump of
a year ago, where all of a sudden, it's hey,
wait a minute, these teams are not talking about.
Speaker 3 (37:47):
They're really really good. Well Oklahoma, Oklahoma City is terrific.
Speaker 1 (37:52):
Like that's gonna be the difference in the Spurs if
they get de Aaron Fox.
Speaker 4 (37:55):
I will add that the roster for the Spurs, having
seen that Paris game this past weekend, that only includes
the kid wem Bin Yama, who I guess is a
post player, although all those European bigs play so much,
in my opinion, too much of the game outside the paint.
But you've got the veteran point guard in Chris Paul,
which I think was a very good acquisition because he
(38:17):
still has something to offer and it gives you that
balance of the roster I mean of guys on the
floor to be the leader with the kids on the floor.
And Harrison Barnes from Northern California has already made it
to the San Antonio Spurs. You know Vissel got a
year ago, got a big contract extensions.
Speaker 3 (38:35):
That's the guy I think is going to most like.
Speaker 1 (38:37):
That's who I found the san Antonio like, that's the
guy I really want to want to want to try
to move that I'm gonna hap. I don't want to,
but if a trade's gonna happen, they're gonna want somebody.
He's the guy I'm gonna wind up moving.
Speaker 4 (38:46):
And you're saying that we can then sign Fox, who
in another year, in a few months, could be a
free agent because then by then his long I think
it's five year deal will have run out, not this summer,
but the next summer, right, and then that's still pretty
good starting lineup.
Speaker 1 (39:01):
And if he wants to go to the spring knowing
he's going to be a free agent, yeah, facts that pick,
the fact that this is my destination tells me this
is where I want to go. This is where I
want to be long term. And he will sign their
long term and he's gonna wind up being a san
Antonio And who's to.
Speaker 4 (39:13):
Say they won't get a decent draft pick because at
this point san Antonio is in the same boat as Sacramento.
Speaker 3 (39:20):
As far as we may or may not make.
Speaker 4 (39:22):
The play in, we may or may not have any
impact on the postseason. If even if we get to
the play in And I got to say that the NBA,
unlike you know, real fans who watch playing games consider
it playoffs. Those are not playing a game. You did
not make the postseason. That doesn't even count. Forget the
stats you need to even see it.
Speaker 3 (39:40):
You got to be in the top BA, in the
top that is.
Speaker 4 (39:44):
A tournament final which Amazon paid so much.
Speaker 3 (39:47):
For for you doesn't exist. It's not even a real game.
The stats don't count.
Speaker 1 (39:52):
Now for Jimmy Butler, now that other teams are going
to get involved, it's going to make trading him easier.
But but I don't know that he's getting his preferred
destination because and it's so hard because he's owed so much,
like he'd have to give back a lot of money
and figure something. I mean, he's doing forty million dollars
next year that he's of course, I'm opting into that.
(40:13):
I'm not gonna opt out of that. Are you insane?
Speaker 4 (40:14):
In a sense, he's giving back money as we speak,
because he keeps getting suspended with pay.
Speaker 3 (40:19):
But I don't without pay.
Speaker 1 (40:20):
I don't see a team that's a big contender going
to get Jimmy Butler because you have to move too
many pieces on your team with the money where it's
gonna be a team honestly, where he's gonna go and
pat Riley would love to do this. It's gonna be
a team like Detroit that, hey, we're five hundred, Maybe
we're a Jimmy Butler type in his crazy type of
leadership away from helping us. Or a team like Dallas
(40:42):
that is coming off the NBA Finals and finds themselves
not quite as good as they are. Maybe Jimmy Butler
is what we need. That's gonna be the team that
goes and gets the team that, hey, maybe we need
a little bit to get up to being one of
the big contenders, because the big contenders he's not going there.
Speaker 4 (40:57):
If I were running an NBA front office, I would
be have to be so desperate to actually get Jimmy
Butler at this point because he's at pariah.
Speaker 2 (41:07):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (41:07):
I mean, I think he'll be okay for the rest
of this year and next year. Do you know that Nick,
he took him six years to get really unhappy in Miami,
I mean really unhappy.
Speaker 3 (41:15):
Yeah, But if you're in the destination he didn't handpick.
Speaker 1 (41:19):
No, this is gonna go sou we got more in
these NBA stories, plus that big developing story out of
the NFL.
Speaker 3 (41:25):
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Speaker 2 (00:22):
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Speaker 1 (00:32):
Greetings, Welcome inside, Happy Tuesday. Don't do that to me,
you know, ty shirt. The days have blended into one
another from me since college. So I mean, like I
clearly I could actually.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
Miss the day. Oh yeah, dude, when you don't have
that regular schedule.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
Absolutely no, absolutely since college, I'm like, uh, Thursday, Friday,
No Friday, Friday. Especially when I used to work on
the weekends. Like when I worked on the weekends so much,
I was like, yeah, Friday, Like I'm off like Tuesday
and Wednesday weekends not the weekend for you, They're not
real days off, Like I'm off on Tuesday.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
That's great.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
No, But ever since college, like just you know rolls
in and well, you know, Wednesday is no different than Friday,
which is no different than except you know, football on Sunday,
But that was that was it?
Speaker 4 (01:15):
Now that she had sociology like Monday, Wednesday, Friday, and
you knew you had that math class on Tuesday Thursday. Absolutely,
I know what you mean, especially for some of us
who live in a place that doesn't have extreme weather
the various months of the year.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
You're talking about all the classes that I skipped because
it was too cold out. I'm saying, I'm staying in today.
I could play RBI Baseball. No, I'm good, I could play.
I can play. I could play the whole World Series
if I skip my ten am class. Yeah, I'm gipping
my Bennit.
Speaker 3 (01:38):
Jason, don't make me scare you.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
Well, I was scared. What No, when you can scare me, Man,
don't do that. You weren't even here last night.
Speaker 3 (01:46):
I even know that.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
Man, I know everything that's scary that don't even don't
even do that. Man, that's that's too. I'll tell you.
I did have a bad moment last night. I was
finishing that this this horror novel reading was so creepy,
and I finish it and I'm laying down and I'm thinking.
I actually said on the air, I'm gonna be laying here,
I'm gonna think about that creep Duvall from Liam Cohen.
(02:09):
And don't you know a couple of times I woke
up and I'm like, don't you hear something? I mean,
not that I heard Duvall? Obviously, not that I like,
did I did I hear something? Did I hear something?
Did I hear something? Did somebody come in?
Speaker 3 (02:18):
Did Irban Meyer try to run in here and tell
me how it? Say? Oh? That is?
Speaker 2 (02:26):
It's scared so bad.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
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the day, Steve O that the NBA trade deadline really
kicked into overdrive and we're gonna get there by way
of the game of the night that we just awe
in the NBA tyres Maxy.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
What did he have?
Speaker 1 (03:03):
Seventy five tonight forty three, forty three, forty three in
the first eight minutes. Isn't that what it was? And
he kind of cruised from there.
Speaker 4 (03:09):
Actually it was about seventy five at halftime for Philly
because they can score it will and soon Anthony Davis
went out.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
Uh, the Sixers roll the Lakers one eighteen, one oh
four Frostburg.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
Are the Lakers back? Are they still back? No? Texas
football is back. I'm sure not. Bet let me back Saturday.
Let'll be back to Okay? Are you sure about that?
Sure about okay? Play the next come on?
Speaker 1 (03:32):
This is you know, this is And this is why
people now understand why I say, hey, there's no reason
if you want to be tepidly, cautiously optimistic that maybe
it's a possibility that the Lakers might be okay, because
this is what they do. They play a couple of
good games in a row, and everybody says, oh, look
at this, they figured it out. Now Austin Reeves is
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going to score thirty five a game. Now it's not
Dalton Connect anymore.
Speaker 3 (03:58):
He was great off the bench tonight.
Speaker 1 (03:59):
Ad is gonna score sixty and we're gonna and then
they have games like this where really you went into Philadelphia,
who's playing without and beating Paul Georgian. You didn't even
sniffle win, like this is what the Lakers do, like.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
Because Davis wasn't there.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
I don't know if it's it's that the Lakers can't
handle success, but boy, they win a couple of a
row and you certainly see JJ Reddick getting all chesty
and yeah, we play like this, we can beat anybody. Dude,
you've watched what we've watched this team, right, you know
that you can win a couple of games and then
you lose a couple of games. Like I give them credit.
There's seven games over five hundred, which is not bad,
but in the end there's still they win a couple
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of games and then they have a night like this
where I mean.
Speaker 4 (04:35):
Come on, not their first this year, and memo to
coach JJ Reddick, tonight, you couldn't have beaten those plumbers
from the nineteen sixties.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
I mean, it's just an amazing I mean, look ad
ten minutes tonight. Obviously, but this is a game that's
still you're playing against against Tyres maxing a bunch of
guys in the G League. I mean, Cox's very good
by the way, not maxis because there's a bigger point
to make with Tyres Maxy. But like, I mean, look
and Gordon's not bad, and Kelly Oubray once in a
while is like, oh good as Kelly, But like this
is this, this told you. This is why the Lakers
(05:03):
are so maddening. Like they can't they can't handle success.
They can't find a way to sustain anything. And it's
and I don't know if it's just mentally they don't
have the forty two to be able to do it,
or it's just they they again, they can't handle success
and they think we have it and they come up
with efforts like this against the Sixers and the team
that's quit that is like wait, waiting for the deadline
(05:25):
to come and go like this is the late This
is why I can't ever really believe in the Lakers.
It's nice they're playing a little bit better.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
That's good.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
But every time you start thinking about it, this is
what happens anytime they went three and row, Hey, that's great,
all look at this. Look at the Lakers that it's
gonna be this is Ben's like better when they had
magic and Kareem know they had Shaq and Kobe. At
the same time they had Worthy and Wilkes and Michael
Cooper and said Sebalos and Nick Van Exell. There twelve
man rotation of those guys. And then they come up
(05:54):
with a game.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
Like this, Yes, four records.
Speaker 4 (05:56):
The Lakers with two minutes to go in the first
quarter were leaving and Anthony Davis when out of the game.
And after that over one hundred points scored by Shilly.
Speaker 3 (06:04):
Yeah. How long is the game? Is it a quarter?
It is four quarters? They haven't learned that yet. A right,
we just have a center. Well that's all.
Speaker 4 (06:12):
The guy who left injured tonight is the guy who
asked for a little front line help.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
By the way, now know when this game was over, guys,
the second Brownie James checked in. Oh man, that was
also first quarter. Yeah, he checked in and Tyre smack.
He said, oh, hey, time to go to school.
Speaker 3 (06:26):
That's a human white flying. It's time for you to
go to school.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
I know.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
Yeah, we had a year at college. Oh, you're gonna
get some right now.
Speaker 4 (06:33):
The Lakers were up eight when he checked in in
the first quarter, so his plus minus is.
Speaker 3 (06:37):
Just awful tonight.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
Yeah, no, not good. Although it's awful too. Hey, the
dog connect was pretty good off the bed tonight, but
a lot of it. Look, it was garbage time. The
Lakers didn't threaten right.
Speaker 4 (06:46):
Well, they give up almost fifty points in the second quarter,
so it really wasn't a game.
Speaker 3 (06:50):
Yeah, it's a second question.
Speaker 4 (06:52):
And I again point to Anthony Davis leaving with the
abdominal strain. And the Lakers did play a game last night,
so we know they're not playing a game tomorrow. But
at one point it was twenty five point deficit at Philly,
a team that was missing the two stars.
Speaker 3 (07:04):
Max Ay scored forty three.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
Now here's the deal. We're gonna get into Dearon Fox
and Jimmy Butler, who are the two big stars that
are on the trading block now? But I've said this
a couple of times, and I think a night like
tonight also bears it out. The Sixers are done with
the incarnation of the team that has been built around
Joel Embiide for the better part of the last decade.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
They're done. He's done. He's not healthy, he's not playing.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
You don't trust the process. He's done the process. We
trusted the process for a long time. Eventually in a
new process. Okay, the process is only going to go
so long, might go a decade. How long is this processing?
Speaker 3 (07:41):
We need a long time. We need a long they do.
We need a long long time.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
Like the Jets process of getting back to the playoffs,
and we need at least a decade, maybe even more.
It's over in Philadelphia. The season is over. They're not
going to the playoffs. It's a situation in which they
can't get their star healthy and on the floor. I
don't know how much he's motivated to actually be on
the floor. Of all the names that are out there
for the trade deadline, right we're hearing dearon Fox and
(08:05):
Paul and Paul George. We're hearing dearon Fox and obviously
Jimmy Butler. The last few days, we'll get to that.
The two names that honestly need to be out there
are Joel Embiid and Steph Curry. Those are the names
that need to be out there. Embiid, I can't I
can't tell you how bad Philadelphia needs a fresh start
and how much he needs a fresh start, especially when
you see the Sixers win a couple of big games
(08:28):
in the last week. Remember to be Cleveland, and you know,
without Embiid, and here's a team that is now built
around Tyrese Maxi. You move on from the money you
owe Joel Embiid and you start over again. Right you have,
you have, you have Maxie and Paul George. Okay, it'll
be easy to get another star. You have seen the
best of Joel Embiid. How healthy is he really going
to be the rest of his career?
Speaker 3 (08:48):
Now?
Speaker 1 (08:48):
He still is someone who will bring a decent amount
in a trade because a team will look at him
and say, maybe he's motivated in a change of scenery.
And the next two postseasons, I feel pretty good. I
feel pretty good that Joel Embiid new situation this postseason,
next postseason, you'll get a lot out of him, right
because this is what happens in the NBA with starts
who decide I've quit on one team, but I'm in
(09:10):
a new location. That's never great, Right suddenly I'm great.
We've seen it with James Harden, We've seen it with
Chris Paul See, it was so many players multiple times
right right now? Yeah hard until he just gets tired
that I'm reading them ready to.
Speaker 4 (09:21):
Go by the way Philly is. Even with the win tonight,
they're not even into the play it. They're not even
tenth in the Eastern Conference standing. So I know we've
got a while to go, but we are past the
halfway point of the season.
Speaker 3 (09:32):
Now.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
It's they're done and they know they need to move
on and start the new seventy six ers, which is
Maxi George. Howver long it is, and you can get
another start. He can bring somebody else in and it
makes sense for Embiid to go as well because Embiid
needs that fresh start. He's just it's like both sides
are just just going in circles right now waiting. And
(09:54):
I guarantee you Joel Embiid would be magically healthy if
he went to another team all of a sudden going
to be hey, oh but he's out of it. No, No,
he's starting. He's starting today, he said forty minutes. He's
ready to go.
Speaker 3 (10:04):
He will be magically healthy if he got traded to
another team.
Speaker 4 (10:06):
They're going in circles because only one leg works, so
he's actually.
Speaker 3 (10:10):
Walking around, he goes straight around. The trade him. Does
he actually have to physically able.
Speaker 4 (10:15):
To be able to walk to the plane or how
do they get him, because I don't know how that works.
Speaker 3 (10:20):
It's it's you know, you mentioned Fox.
Speaker 4 (10:22):
The irony is now that the Lakers are leaving town
losing at Philly tonight, Sacramento is the next team in
and it's tomorrow night. And it was today the reports
that Sacramento is open to trading dearon Fox, who's been
a key to this offense for years.
Speaker 1 (10:37):
They need more cow bells, you know, just for a
second with the uh with with the Daron Fox on
the on the trading block. Oh by the way, just uh,
you know, let let's pour one out for light the
beam because I feel like light the beam is kind
of over now, and.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
So really I feel, well, if you're trading the.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
Guys the I mean, it's not like yeah, but maybe
maybe you're just kind of maybe the beam will pulse
a little bit. Maybe pulse the beam a little bit.
Speaker 3 (11:03):
Maybe.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
Uh, let's let's you know, you know, what do they
call it when you have the not the safety lights,
but when the lights are on really low in a
room just to just to illuminate it, you know, like
that that's kind of where they're at with the light
to beam.
Speaker 3 (11:16):
Like some earthquake outage happens, and the emergency light.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
Yeah exactly, it's like a, well, they're not really that bright,
but they still kind of light things, so it still
kind of looks like that. But look if if and
the Sixer and the and the Warriors have been mentioned
as a destination potentially for dearon Fox, also mentioned for
Jimmy Butler on one of his preferred UH lists. But really,
the two names that need to be there, like I said,
are Joel and Beat and Steph Curry because Curry's got
(11:41):
to realize that if he's going to win again, it's
not going to be a Golden State.
Speaker 3 (11:45):
It's not.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
And He's got to decide what's more important to me.
Do I want to give away the last seven or
eight years of my career and put up some empty
stats just to be a one.
Speaker 3 (11:55):
One team? Like I get that, that is very that
very attractive. There's some currency to.
Speaker 1 (12:01):
But you want to win at some point, and I
know he wants to win because I watched him win
all the gold medals in the gold medal game.
Speaker 3 (12:07):
Give me the ball, give me the ball. We're gonna
give me the ball game awesome.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
He should have had all the gold Medals, So I
know he still wants to win, and he's got to
understand that nobody's gonna go there right there, you know.
And he's already said, look, don't make a trade if
it's going to ruin the future of the team. The
young players for the Warriors haven't come along. The dynasty
is over, and they're not trending upward. They're not winning
more games. That had a nice start to the season
(12:31):
when Steve Kerr was playing I think fifteen guys a night,
like everybody was coming off the bench of playing at
least ten minutes. But now they settled back into this
is kind of who they are, just like the Lakers
are who they are. This is who the Warriors are.
They're a five hundred is team. They'll win at home.
Curry will still give you big nights once in a while,
but they're not nearly as good as the other teams
in the West. And there's no one player coming in
(12:51):
that's going to make that happen. Jimmy Butler's not gonna
make that happen, right, Darren Fox is not gonna make
that happen. Not that the Kings would actually trade him
to Golden State. But this is where Steph Curry's got
to realize, if I'm going to win in the next
two or three postseasons will be the end of my prime.
Most likely, I gotta go someplace if I want to win,
and you can. It doesn't need to be a seventy
(13:11):
six ers and beat situation where it's I hate you,
you hate me. With trading, this can be one of
those Hey, we're talking and we're all together on this.
Speaker 3 (13:20):
We want to give Steph a chance to win.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
And and Steph's everybody can cry in Golden State, and
everybody can can can you know, can can wear the
Steph Curry jerseys, and Steve Kirk can cry that he's
being traded, and Steph Curry can cry that he's being traded.
All of these things can happen, Steve, and I'm okay
with you can do that because eventually he wants to
do that one year at the end back at Golden State.
He's always going to be a warrior, right, He's always
going to be a Golden State warrior. So but if
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he wants to win, he's got to say, Okay, let
let me go someplace and you can help the warriors
bring in new players, right, do something else. But the
dynasty is over. And if he wants to win, he's
got to decide what's more important and if and and
he should decide that I need to go someplace else
if I really want to win, because he's he's one
of those over the top guys like Jimmy Ballard.
Speaker 3 (14:03):
Do you ever but he's like, hey, you go to
a team that suddenly, all of a sudden, we got
Steph Curry. He's scoring twenty eight a game. And now look,
look we can't do any wrong. We're just adding we're
adding a shooter. Did we get him the ball?
Speaker 1 (14:15):
And it goes in the net all the time because
we watched it from afar for the last decade. Now
he's doing it for us, like he isn't over the
top guy, and if he wants to win, he's got
to go with.
Speaker 4 (14:24):
This past week, though he tried to play against the
Lakers over the weekend with four seventeen shooting from the
floor and with the bad knee, is not playing in
that late game that's underway Golden State hosting Utah tonight.
But I'm reminded of when Junior Say, All Pro linebacker
for years with the Chargers, and we all thought he
was going to be a lifetime Charger when he got dealt.
Speaker 3 (14:43):
His comment after.
Speaker 4 (14:44):
The trade is if this helps the Chargers to be better,
then I'm fine with it. That was kind of an
astonishing comment. But even more so, I think that would
apply to Steph Curry because you're right, just like Michael
Jordan's always a Chicago Bull. It doesn't matter what happens
from here on out, Steph curR Will absolutely always be
a Golden State Warrior. But that team, and I know
(15:04):
it's been three short years less than that since they
won the title again when they beat Boston and Jason
Tatum in the finals. Aside from that season, it's been
mostly for about six years now following that dynasty.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
They squeezed that last one out against the Celtics and
that's been it. It's either play in not getting in,
and currently it's more of the same. Either Sacramento or
Golden State might be missing even the.
Speaker 3 (15:30):
Play in April exit. How about a fresca?
Speaker 1 (15:32):
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the other guys who could possibly maybe become an NBA
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but news that's just come in.
Speaker 3 (18:00):
Apparently the choice was.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
Hey, Mike McCarthy, it's the Saints or nobody, and Mike
McCarthy has said, Okay, I choose nobody. According to NFL
Networks Tom Pellisero and Ian Rappaport, Mike McCarthy, late of
the Dallas Cowboys, has decided to sit out the twenty
twenty five season, instead focusing on the openings that will
(18:24):
come after the twenty twenty five season end, so he
will look to get back into the mix a year
from now. In twenty twenty six. He may as well
be saying, hey, Jerry, thanks a lot for screwing me
by not letting me go and holding on to me
for that extra week. Thanks a lot, Jerry Jones. At
least Jerry Jones for the most part, had stuck to
I'm just gonna screw the Cowboys with decisions I make.
Speaker 3 (18:44):
Now he's outside of the cowboys. Got you what anymore?
Speaker 4 (18:47):
Part of this is also other people not choosing Mike
McCarthy because there were what six openings this offseason. New
Orleans is the last opening they gave Kellen Moore, ironically,
a former Dallas assistant, a second interview let last night
we mentioned that during last night's show, McCarthy had not
been interviewed by the Saints.
Speaker 3 (19:05):
And now he's not going to be coaching this year.
Speaker 1 (19:06):
You know, I will say this because yes, he did
get a chance to talk to Bears talked to him
right after.
Speaker 4 (19:12):
But there but the Bears talked to Harmon and everybody else.
It's your list of fifty.
Speaker 3 (19:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
Yeah, the Bears hired Ben johonns I was actually going
in next and they said, oh hey, that's great.
Speaker 3 (19:21):
But there is that thing.
Speaker 1 (19:23):
Yes, he was able to get a couple of interviews,
but how serious of a candidate was he really? Because
if a team's going to hire somebody as a head coach, right,
you have a list of people. You're thinking about people
for a long time. Look, the Jets knew they were
going to have the opening that they did. The Bears
knew they were going.
Speaker 3 (19:38):
To have the open think that way we did talk
about the Cowboys.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
Lest right, Well, well it just gets the Cowboys, is that?
But nobody knew that Mike McCarthy was going to be available.
So when the Jets and the Bears and these teams
that know they're going to have openings, right, the Saints,
like three quarters of the teams all know they're going
to have openings. Right, we didn't know the Raiders were
going to have an opening. But okay, but when three
quarters of the teams know they're gonna have an opening,
(20:02):
here's the guys we're gonna talk to, right, We're gonna
do research now on Ben Johnson, on Aaron Glenn, on
Mike Vrabel, all these guys. When all of a sudden,
a week after the season ends, Mike McCarthy is thrown in,
it's well, can we really hire the guy?
Speaker 4 (20:15):
Like?
Speaker 3 (20:16):
I know we like him? Then you know, he's been
a really good head.
Speaker 1 (20:18):
Coach and won the Super Bowl with the Packers, and
he's won twelve games year with the Cowboys and coaching
in Dallas with all that chaos and being able to
win as much as he did is a good thing
for him. But how serious of a candidate can he
be when all of a sudden, late in the game,
and I mean late to the research and late to
the looking into it, and the phone calls on the
background of what you need to do for each candidate,
(20:39):
like it really is impossible to hire at that point.
Jerry Jones absolutely screwed him by letting him stay, Like
if you're not gonna let if you're not gonna let
him go, man, let him go and go do something else.
Speaker 4 (20:51):
Or Jerry Jones thinks we'll talk after the regular season
ends bad as hears it was, no, the contract is up,
but we can just get an agreement on extending this thing.
And when they couldn't come to an agreement, then here
it is thirteenth of January, after the regular season, when
obviously other teams are already going through their candidates with
(21:11):
their opening. Some have had openings for a while because
some coaches lost their jobs during the season. And then
McCarthy is available on the thirteenth a couple of weeks ago,
and Cliff Kingsbury, for example, was going to be a
candidate New Orleans with the opening, and he decides I'm
not going to interview for the Saints head coach opening.
(21:31):
I'm going to stay at Washington. But you know how
crammed it was, even with Ben Johnson and the team
making a run in the playoffs, and with Kingsbury with
his Washington team making a run in the playoffs. It
a little bit reminds me of some of the offseason
craziness with college football. How you've got recruiting but during
bowl games and so the schedule is for one thing
is on top of the schedule for another. It would
(21:54):
be easier if all of these interviews and all of
these decisions from front office could happen a little bit
later in January up until the new league year begins
in mid March.
Speaker 3 (22:05):
If if you.
Speaker 1 (22:06):
Know that you're debating on whether or not you want
to stay, whether or not you're gonna keep him, I
mean it, it's Jerry Jones nose. And all of a sudden,
Mike McCarthy didn't show up with this offer, this Scott
Boris type offer to coach the team, and Jerry said,
oh no, that it's way too much money.
Speaker 3 (22:22):
We're not ready to spend that.
Speaker 1 (22:23):
You good luck you pedal that peede a Lonzo someplace else.
We'll give him three years and seventy million, but not
a penny more.
Speaker 4 (22:29):
Well, i'm not sure it's Jerry involved, So I'm not
sure how much logic, as logical as this may be,
I'm not sure how much that applies to a Jerry decision.
Speaker 3 (22:37):
And I'm sorry.
Speaker 1 (22:38):
I actually I thought I sent the email a week
ago that said we're not renewing you, but I saw
it was in my drafts, and Steven told me got
to actually press the send button, and I said, oh,
so then I sent, here you go.
Speaker 3 (22:49):
You should have it. Now, there you go. We're letting
you go.
Speaker 4 (22:52):
We're gonna get something cheaper, and we're gonna be back
to having ice cream as they deserved over in the
commiss here.
Speaker 1 (22:58):
You know, I let the neap and flavors give you
three choices in just one bit, but if you have
more than one flavor Neapolitan, we're gonna charge you extra.
So for one scoop of ice cream is five dollars.
But one scoop of Neapolitan, because you get a little
bit of chocolate, little bit of an, a little bit
of strawberry, that's gonna be fifteen dollars. For the same
That's how I make money. You think I didn't go
(23:19):
to business school to learn how to not make money.
That's how I make money here. And we only serve Neapolitan,
and everybody make sure to get all three in every
scoop they get.
Speaker 3 (23:27):
So he had more choices of the ice cream than
he had for coaches.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
Is Brian Schottenheimer and nobody now speaking of being somebody
or nobody, Jordan Schultz, NFL insider, who is piggybacking on
this report, says that there was no interest in Mike
McCarthy for the Saints, So that means so that must
mean hey boy, now that Dallas Cowboys. This is like
World War Z where the zombies are just expanding. So
(23:52):
this probably means that we're gonna wind up getting Kellen
Moore to be the Saints head coach. It's probably gonna
be Kellner.
Speaker 4 (23:59):
Last night's discussion with him, they went in person to
talk with him in person.
Speaker 1 (24:03):
Yes, oh man, I'll tell you this is the most
uninspiring head coaching hiring cycle.
Speaker 3 (24:10):
I think that.
Speaker 4 (24:11):
Which is a match for the kind of let's say
draft choices we get in April to start this next
season with rookies. It's there was a lot of bang
zoom splashed last year in some hires and some draft choices,
and it's kind of looking like the opposite of that
for twenty twenty five NFL.
Speaker 1 (24:28):
I mean, look at the top three guys, right, the
top three guys in some kind of order, Mike Rabel,
Ben Johnson, Aaron Glenn And even as as the process
went on, Mike Rabel was going to the Patriots. Okay,
we knew that was happening. Yeah, And really, in a
normal year of coaching openings, Rabel is fifth or sixth
(24:50):
of the guy because he's a regurgitated head coach, right,
he was there, he got fired. Who's trying to get
back in to be a coach somewhere in there, He's like,
he's like down at the fifth or sixth option. A
guy like Ben Johnson Normally, Hey, he's really hot, left,
but how much was he not hot at the end
of this year? Right, Like the Bears bit against themselves
(25:10):
to get him, and you thought he's a guy that's
gonna walk in And even though the Lion set a
record for touchdowns in a season like any I think
anybody could have had Ben Johnson and Aaron Glenn, who
I love the Jets getting Aaron Glenn because he's uniquely
qualified for the Jets, being a guy that's played there
and played for Woody Johnson. Like these are guys that
are they that exciting in a normal coaching cycle.
Speaker 2 (25:31):
They're not.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
And meanwhile, the openings are usually a little bit more
exciting as well. But when it's the Jets and the Patriots,
all the bottom feet.
Speaker 3 (25:38):
Are tanks are just tear.
Speaker 1 (25:39):
I mean the Bears were the best by default. I
mean think about that. When the Bears are the best opening,
what does that tell you about where the openings are? Like,
all the openings weren't good. This is it's a very
uninspiring cycle. And I don't know, maybe Mike McCarthy's sitting
back thinking, man, I couldn't get one of these jobs.
Speaker 5 (25:55):
Oh wow, I got it, all right. I just gonna
wait another year and see what works out for me.
But I love the way it's phrased in the NFL
Network report. Obviously they get the report because they're talking
to his representatives. You know what, We're just gonna stand
down this offseason and we're just gonna go into the
hiring cycle in twenty twenty six after next season. As
(26:15):
if this is his decision, that's how it's quoted. Let's
say that's how it's passed along to us the consumer.
I think this segment fleshes that out.
Speaker 3 (26:24):
A little bit more. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (26:25):
I mean, look, I think that McCarthy in a normal
in a normal situation in which the day after the
season ends, you're either staying or you're going, he has
a job. I'm pretty sure he has a job somewhere
because the CEO head coach is kind of in vogue now.
Whereas he's got a better resume than some of these guys.
Guy's got a super Bowl, he's got he's an offensive coach.
Speaker 3 (26:47):
Recently it wins three years in a row for.
Speaker 1 (26:50):
This Cowboys, and being that guy, being the CEO head
coach is what's really valuable now because the the shine
is kind of off the great coordinators and even though
a raid head coach can come from anywhere, he doesn't
need to be a coordinator, could be a quarterbacks coach
and someone that can lead a program. But the CEO
head coaches that have led a program and will stop
the backsliding, these guys are. These guys are really in
(27:12):
demand right now. Like you saw, the Raiders made the
best hire. They hired a guy. I know the backsliding
is gonna stop with Pete Carroll. I don't know how
much better the Raiders are gonna be, but I know
they won't backslide anymore.
Speaker 3 (27:22):
Still need a quarterback. And the same thing with the Patriots.
Speaker 1 (27:25):
I don't know how good they're gonna be, but they're
not going to backslide anymore. The Jets are out on
a limb a little bit. With Aaron Glenn Bunch, he's
a guy that knows Europe. But those teams is who's there?
Where they were?
Speaker 4 (27:33):
The reports of the undisciplined and stuff, you know that stops.
You would think with guys like Frabo, right Yeah.
Speaker 1 (27:39):
And if McCarthy had jumped in right after the season
and teams knew the day after the regular season, here's
our guys who are available, he would have been much
more on the radar of teams. He would have been
brought in right away as a big candidate. But when
you don't, sometimes you need to think about a possibility before.
Speaker 3 (27:57):
You can really pull the triggerud.
Speaker 1 (27:58):
Some think it's too it's too early to make it
decision on it, and and it's and you say, well, boy,
we like this guy, but we haven't had the proper
time to chew this around and vet it and see
what his impact. We can talk to him twice in person, right,
we don't have that time, so we really we can't
treat him very seriously, like, well, we'll talk to him,
but we can't treat him seriously as a candidate. Whereas
(28:18):
if he goes after the after the first day, Hey,
he's brought in the Jets talk, well, maybe the Jets
still because Aaron Rodgers says, no way, man, no.
Speaker 3 (28:25):
If I'm gonna stay, he's not coming. Are you implying
that he's worked with?
Speaker 1 (28:30):
But other teams can say, oh, yeah, we want to
talk to him, because I think teams do see that, Hey,
McCarthy was able to win in Dallas, where there's all
kinds of chaos.
Speaker 3 (28:40):
All the time. It's a circus.
Speaker 1 (28:42):
If you can win in the circus, you can win
where there's less of a circus. Now granted we're a
circus too because we're looking for a head coach, but
if you can win in that circus, we can trust
you here.
Speaker 3 (28:51):
But something even though it's a week.
Speaker 1 (28:53):
That's a big week for teams to say, yes, we
can put him on our board and and chew it
around and vet it right. But when the week goes
by and Okay, now we can talk to him. Well,
we've already had interviews with five people we know who
were zoom, we know who were zeroing in on. We're
gonna have second zoom interviews with people. We're gonna have
a first in person interview here. And all of a sudden,
McCarthy's not a guy who gets let go. That suddenly
(29:16):
is oh, you only need to meet him for five
minutes and hire him, right. It's not like if Mike
Tomlin got let go hey right away, a team would
snap him up right If Kyle Shanahan got let go,
a team would snap up right away, Kevin O'Connell, all
these great young coaches, Sean McVay, if he got let
go by the Rams, he'd be snapped up right away. No,
McCarthy's a guy. Well we got to think we had
to look into it. So yeah, I mean, that week
(29:36):
really screwed him. And if that, if it was a
different week, we'd be doing a different story.
Speaker 4 (29:40):
I would love to know if there's been any private discussion,
even among just two employees who are front off as
football executives of you know, we recently hired a new
head coach this offseason, but man, I think we could
have had McCarthy, you know, not quite buyer's remorse, and
that's not all I am. I mean you might have
(30:01):
a knee church reaction say yes, of course, Well, I
mean the Cowboys had a hire obviously that they wouldn't
the Jets, I doubt right would say, oh man, we
could have I doubt they would. I think the Raiders
are quite happy with who they got, and they've gone
in a different direction and needed to. As far as
coach hire Patriots, I'm sure they're fine with who they got,
getting an ex Patriot who's been an NFL head coach.
(30:23):
You mentioned the Bears with Ben Johnson, who was throughout
this past season the hot coordinator that oh he's gonna
be an NFL. Whether he succeeds as a head coach,
who knows, but absolutely soon, sooner rather than later, he's
going to be an NFL head coach. And sure enough
Chicago got him, which means we're left with mister Duval,
the Jacksonville higher I know they loved the offense. They
(30:49):
saw that he ran with Tampa Bay. It was impressive
this past year. But I wonder if there's just part
of him being Jacksonville. You know, they had a lot
of years with haven't done much. There's a reason why
they say, yeah, we'll have a home game in England.
Speaker 3 (31:02):
Can we have two d.
Speaker 4 (31:05):
I wonder if somebody's thinking, I wonder, I wonder if
we should have.
Speaker 3 (31:10):
I wish we'd have had a chance exit out about
a Fresca.
Speaker 1 (31:15):
Jason Smith Steve to say, you're in for Mike Harmon again,
the news just a few minutes old. Mike McCarthy will
not seek a head coaching position in the NFL this year,
which really was the Saints or nothing, and we'll focus
instead on getting back into it in twenty twenty six.
More on this and the Night in sports. Steve de Sager,
who they say is kind of like the Mike McCarthy
of here a soft Fox Sports radio.
Speaker 3 (31:34):
Excuse me. He works really well in chaos, he's got
what's trending. I know it wasn't a comment about my weight.
We'll get to the NFL news in just a moment.
Speaker 4 (31:43):
But reliever Kirby Yates has passed his physical and we'll
sign with the Dodgers. He was an All Star with
Texas last year. Gets a one year deal thirteen million dollars.
Yates turns thirty eight in March. Washington Commander's offensive coordinator
Cliff Kingsbury will stay with the team. New Orleans gave
Kellen Moore a second inner last night. The Cowboys hired
Matt Eberflus's defensive coordinator.
Speaker 3 (32:04):
He had been the Bears head coach. Mike Zimmer will
likely retire.
Speaker 4 (32:07):
Chicago formally announced Dennis Allen as its defensive coordinator. Detroit
two offensive coordinator is John Morton, who is with Denver
for one year. The Raiders reportedly interviewed Darryl Bebble for
offensive coordinator. He worked for Pete Carroll in Seattle.
Speaker 3 (32:20):
Baltimore say who you see?
Speaker 1 (32:22):
I forget who was it that called that passing play
on the goal line in the Super Bowl?
Speaker 3 (32:25):
Who was Oh, that's right, that's right.
Speaker 4 (32:28):
Yeah, the team with Marshawn Lynch. Marshawn Lynch, who of
course crashed Pete Carroll's.
Speaker 3 (32:32):
News conference with Vegas earlier this week.
Speaker 4 (32:35):
Baltimore is hiring Chuck Pagano as secondary coach or quote
senior secondary coach, so he is not retired. The Browns
say they're not interested in trading away defensive end Miles Garrett.
He's been a First Team All Pro four times. Last
Sunday's AFC Championship drew over fifty seven million TV viewers,
breaking last year's record for an AFC title game.
Speaker 3 (32:56):
Ratings by this method go back to nineteen eighty eight.
This NFC Championship game had forty four million viewers.
Speaker 4 (33:03):
The Eagles have chosen to wear their home green uniforms
in the Super Bowl in a couple weeks as the
designated home team. They can choose, so Kansas City will
wear white. Philadelphia cannot wear its alternate jersey, so no
Kelly Green, just the Dark Green. The Super Bowl will
be in New Orleans a week from Sunday on Fox
TV and the WNBA. Britney Griner agreed to a deal
(33:24):
with Atlanta. Phoenix is acquiring Alyssa Thomas from Connecticut. She's
finished top five for MVP in each.
Speaker 3 (33:30):
Of the last three years.
Speaker 4 (33:31):
You have two late games in the NBA early second quarter.
Golden State is leading twenty nine twenty seven over.
Speaker 3 (33:37):
Utah, which has lost six in a row.
Speaker 4 (33:39):
At Portland, it's the Bucks ahead of the Blazers forty
two to thirty five early in the second quarter. The
two other games are finals. Houston sent Atlanta to a
six straight loss one hundred to ninety six. Philadelphia beat
the Lakers one eighteen, one oh four Tyrese Maxi forty
three points. Anthony Davis of LA left with an abdominal string.
Speaker 3 (33:58):
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Speaker 3 (34:32):
Well, we got more.
Speaker 1 (34:33):
NFL coming up a bit. We wanted to bring you
that big breaking news about Mike McCarthy. But straight ahead,
two stars are on the trading block in the NBA.
Where should they end up going? We'll tell you that's next.
Speaker 2 (34:43):
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(35:03):
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Speaker 1 (35:07):
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Speaker 2 (35:15):
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who's going to sit out this year and try to
(35:42):
become a head coach next year. We'll have more on
Matt and a big super Bowl story coming up in
about ten minutes. But you know, we started the hour
Steve talking about the guys who the superstars who should
be on the trading block as the deadline approaches, Joelle Embiid,
Steph currye hundred percent.
Speaker 3 (35:57):
But the two guys we know are out there. It's
Feb six in the NBA.
Speaker 1 (36:01):
We're getting close to it, Like I just look how
we're sneaking up to it, like it's this weekend.
Speaker 3 (36:04):
We're getting close. We're getting there.
Speaker 4 (36:06):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (36:07):
De Aaron Fox who now is going to be shopped
by the Sacramento Kings and his preferred destination is sit down.
His preferred destination is San Antonio. And of course Jimmy Butler,
who has now been suspended for the eleventh time this season. Uh,
he gets to spend it more than Steve Howe. I
think he's been Uh he's got his This is just
(36:30):
one month. His three suspensions give him time three and
one mon Yeah, that's something Uh every ten days. It's
I saw that clockwork a suspension.
Speaker 3 (36:38):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (36:38):
Now it's more likely he's going to be dealt because
according to Yahoo, the heat have realized, oh we're not
going to get a lot for them, so they have
lowered their trade demands. Now the best places for both
of them right now. If you're de Aaron Fox boy,
if the Spurs are able to get him, look out.
The new era of the Spurs is going to be
here right away because the Aaron Fox is a baller,
(36:59):
right guy all Team NBA two years ago, as long
as they'd have to give up Stefan Castle. He was
a guy who said, listen to guy's a guy. I'm
gonna take number one in the draft. He is everything
you want in to player, combo guard, great defender, like
top five pick.
Speaker 3 (37:11):
He's what you want.
Speaker 1 (37:11):
And right now, in anybody's rookie estimation, he is the
second best rookie of the year on the board right
and he is just continuing to get better. So I
don't want to give him up. The fact that he
can slide over and play different positions. If they don't
have to give him up and they can go bring
in De Aaron Fox, I'm telling you, by this time
next year, the Spurs will be a top three team
(37:32):
in the West because they're kind of getting there now
with Wemby becoming the star he is now. But you
had de Aaron Fox, and all of a sudden, this
is gonna be a Timberwolves or Oklahoma City jump of
a year ago, where all of a sudden, it's hey,
wait a minute, these teams are not talking about.
Speaker 3 (37:47):
They're really really good. Well Oklahoma, Oklahoma City is terrific.
Speaker 1 (37:52):
Like that's gonna be the difference in the Spurs if
they get de Aaron Fox.
Speaker 4 (37:55):
I will add that the roster for the Spurs, having
seen that Paris game this past weekend, that only includes
the kid wem Bin Yama, who I guess is a
post player, although all those European bigs play so much,
in my opinion, too much of the game outside the paint.
But you've got the veteran point guard in Chris Paul,
which I think was a very good acquisition because he
(38:17):
still has something to offer and it gives you that
balance of the roster I mean of guys on the
floor to be the leader with the kids on the floor.
And Harrison Barnes from Northern California has already made it
to the San Antonio Spurs. You know Vissel got a
year ago, got a big contract extensions.
Speaker 3 (38:35):
That's the guy I think is going to most like.
Speaker 1 (38:37):
That's who I found the san Antonio like, that's the
guy I really want to want to want to try
to move that I'm gonna hap. I don't want to,
but if a trade's gonna happen, they're gonna want somebody.
He's the guy I'm gonna wind up moving.
Speaker 4 (38:46):
And you're saying that we can then sign Fox, who
in another year, in a few months, could be a
free agent because then by then his long I think
it's five year deal will have run out, not this summer,
but the next summer, right, and then that's still pretty
good starting lineup.
Speaker 1 (39:01):
And if he wants to go to the spring knowing
he's going to be a free agent, yeah, facts that pick,
the fact that this is my destination tells me this
is where I want to go. This is where I
want to be long term. And he will sign their
long term and he's gonna wind up being a san
Antonio And who's to.
Speaker 4 (39:13):
Say they won't get a decent draft pick because at
this point san Antonio is in the same boat as Sacramento.
Speaker 3 (39:20):
As far as we may or may not make.
Speaker 4 (39:22):
The play in, we may or may not have any
impact on the postseason. If even if we get to
the play in And I got to say that the NBA,
unlike you know, real fans who watch playing games consider
it playoffs. Those are not playing a game. You did
not make the postseason. That doesn't even count. Forget the
stats you need to even see it.
Speaker 3 (39:40):
You got to be in the top BA, in the
top that is.
Speaker 4 (39:44):
A tournament final which Amazon paid so much.
Speaker 3 (39:47):
For for you doesn't exist. It's not even a real game.
The stats don't count.
Speaker 1 (39:52):
Now for Jimmy Butler, now that other teams are going
to get involved, it's going to make trading him easier.
But but I don't know that he's getting his preferred
destination because and it's so hard because he's owed so much,
like he'd have to give back a lot of money
and figure something. I mean, he's doing forty million dollars
next year that he's of course, I'm opting into that.
(40:13):
I'm not gonna opt out of that. Are you insane?
Speaker 4 (40:14):
In a sense, he's giving back money as we speak,
because he keeps getting suspended with pay.
Speaker 3 (40:19):
But I don't without pay.
Speaker 1 (40:20):
I don't see a team that's a big contender going
to get Jimmy Butler because you have to move too
many pieces on your team with the money where it's
gonna be a team honestly, where he's gonna go and
pat Riley would love to do this. It's gonna be
a team like Detroit that, hey, we're five hundred, Maybe
we're a Jimmy Butler type in his crazy type of
leadership away from helping us. Or a team like Dallas
(40:42):
that is coming off the NBA Finals and finds themselves
not quite as good as they are. Maybe Jimmy Butler
is what we need. That's gonna be the team that
goes and gets the team that, hey, maybe we need
a little bit to get up to being one of
the big contenders, because the big contenders he's not going there.
Speaker 4 (40:57):
If I were running an NBA front office, I would
be have to be so desperate to actually get Jimmy
Butler at this point because he's at pariah.
Speaker 2 (41:07):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (41:07):
I mean, I think he'll be okay for the rest
of this year and next year. Do you know that Nick,
he took him six years to get really unhappy in Miami,
I mean really unhappy.
Speaker 3 (41:15):
Yeah, But if you're in the destination he didn't handpick.
Speaker 1 (41:19):
No, this is gonna go sou we got more in
these NBA stories, plus that big developing story out of
the NFL.
Speaker 3 (41:25):
More coming up next, Jason Smith Steve Desanger in for
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