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Jason Smith and Mike Harmon debate if The Bronny James story has been over covered. We welcome in FOX Sports NFL Insider Jay Glazer to the show. The guys react to the NBA All-Star Reserves getting announced. And Cam Newton prefers individual success or team success!

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Cam Newton certainly making us say wait a minute, wait

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a minute. But speaking of making a say wait a minute,
Mike Carmen, Bronnie James played tonight and the Lakers won.
I think we might have hit on something. I we
might admit Bronni needs to play. The Lakers win. I
know they played the Wizards, and the Wizards, you know,
they're having a great season. They have the same record
as the Oklahoma City Thunder, except in reverse.

Speaker 4 (01:35):
But but you know, maybe this is the thing for
the Lakers. You play Bronnie every game.

Speaker 3 (01:38):
Now, well we did kind.

Speaker 5 (01:39):
Of point out that this was the game. If he
didn't play here, then the experiment needed to be called
off permanently. Right here was your opportunity, because if you
can't beat this collection of bums without a d without
I mean, look, getting brought back the guys that you

(01:59):
know would be the old Hey I'd only score eighteen
a game, Well I'm seventy five, that kind of thing.

Speaker 3 (02:05):
Those are the Lakers.

Speaker 5 (02:06):
Magic John's gonna run point tonight and they still would
have drummed the Wizards at this stage of the game.
So looking at Bronnie getting some time, yeah, obvious to
get some minutes. I really want to see him in
that matchup against the Knicks. But here was it showcase
some one last time. You hear the crowd response and

(02:26):
come on, it's insane. Well, look, most they've cheered for
anything in years. Well, I'll tell you that right right away.
Right we got a big couple of big NBA.

Speaker 1 (02:35):
Stories start out of the gate with here the Lakers.
They roll through the Wizards. I mean, look, the Wizards
are done. They may never win again, you know, and
it's an easy win. The Lakers were up huge at halftimes,
up to seventy five thirty eight at halftime, and Bronni
played twelve minutes tonight, scored five points, had that big
dunky you just heard. This story is tremendously overcovered, and

(02:57):
it's absolutely irrelevant. The Bronni j story is irrelevant. And
all of a sudden he plays his first meaningful minutes
against the Sixers and the Lakers lose, and all of
a sudden, it was, oh, my goodness, what are the
Lakers doing? I don't know that any if I said
to anybody, how many minutes has Bronnie James played this year?

Speaker 4 (03:15):
How many minutes has Bronnie James played?

Speaker 1 (03:17):
Everybody wants to jump up and down and go and
get mad at lebron all the stuff there's Oh, I'm glad.

Speaker 4 (03:21):
I was that he's played.

Speaker 1 (03:23):
Now, counting the last two games, which he's gotten the
majority of them, he has played fifty seven minutes all season,
not in.

Speaker 3 (03:33):
The under I was like, what is it like, forty
forty five more than Joe all embiid. No, that is true.

Speaker 1 (03:40):
It is more than embid. Yes, it is more than embiid.
And it's more that than the Knicks bench plays every
single night. But and he's had thirty seven of those
minutes in the last two games in a row, or sorry,
twenty seven of those minutes in the last two games
in a row. He's played fifty seven minutes all year.
Here's his minutes in a handful of games, right, Two
games in November three minutes and five minutes, three games

(04:03):
in December five minutes, one minute, two minute, one game
in January three minutes, now the rest of January two, one, two, two, four,
and then fifteen and twelve. Bronnie James is nothing is
wrong with the You could point a lot of different
things with the Lakers, right and say why are they
not winning?

Speaker 4 (04:19):
It's what's it all about? With the makeup of the team, and.

Speaker 1 (04:22):
Every five minutes, Lebron and Ad say they need something else,
which is, come on, guys, just stop moving the goalpost.
But this is something that's completely irrelevant. Again, fifty seven
minutes all season long, all right, that's not the end.
And I'm okay with them playing him these minutes because
he was coming off his best time in the G
League and his best game. Well, what do you try

(04:42):
to do for a young player coming off your best
game in the G League. Hey, let's give you a
little bit of extended minutes and we'll see how you do. Now,
clearly they did it against the Sixers. They lost, Bronnie
James clearly showed okay, I'm not ready to come into
the game yet, and big crunch time minutes.

Speaker 4 (04:55):
The Lakers saw it.

Speaker 1 (04:56):
When did the Bronny come into the game when it
was long decided and he played his twelve minut It's tonight, right,
So the Lakers tried to say, hey, let's see if
he can stay hot, see if he can translate what
he did in the G League at least some minimal
minutes here, and he couldn't do it.

Speaker 4 (05:09):
So now they've backed off.

Speaker 1 (05:10):
And in two days and now he's playing twelve minutes
tonight in a game in which the Lakers were absolutely
cruising in. This story is really overcovered and overrated. This
is not Lebron James making the Lakers do things. This
is not Yes, did the Lakers draft Bronnie James because
they have Lebron?

Speaker 4 (05:26):
Absolutely because the Lakers want headlines. Right.

Speaker 1 (05:28):
We know that if you can't win championships, you have
to go for headliness. Why Jerry Jones does what he does.
It's why the Lakers do what they do. It's what
the Yankees do what they do. You can't win titles,
you go for headlines. So yeah, here's a headline, right,
head lege guys, all through the sea's gonna be a
whole big thing.

Speaker 4 (05:42):
Maybe Bronny is good.

Speaker 1 (05:43):
He's a second round pick, who knows he's a second
round pick, will probably stick with the team for the
entirety of the time. Lebron is there, But you got
to earn your minutes to play. There's no way he's
gonna start playing minutes where hey, wait a minute, Wow,
Austin Reeves only got eight minutes tonight and Bronni got sorry,
Like that's not happening. That's not going to happen. So
with this is going, this is going fine. Did he

(06:03):
play an extra few minutes the other night? Sure, and
the Lakers you got to say, okay, we give him
a chance. Okay, maybe you're not ready for this. This
story is completely overcovered and overright. You can blame you
can blame the Lakers for a lot of things and say, hey,
and Lebron and adi to, but not for this because
this story, really, the way it's being, the way people
are talking about it is irrelevant. He's not tearing the
Lakers apart at the seams.

Speaker 3 (06:24):
He's not.

Speaker 1 (06:24):
He's not causing controversy and all of a sudden, you know,
Genie Buss and Rich Paul are at odds all the time,
and Rob Polinka won't return phone calls.

Speaker 4 (06:32):
Really, it's it's it's really, it's not a big deal.

Speaker 3 (06:34):
Well, I mean, you can cut and cut and print
this take.

Speaker 5 (06:38):
It's the first time and that anybody's talked about basketball
in a while, because there wasn't a football game to
break down, so it became a let's talk about Brohney James.

Speaker 3 (06:50):
Let's go through this. So you know, cut and print
it and send it out to the masses.

Speaker 5 (06:55):
You know, there's other better stories the Sixers, And as
Frostburg pointed out, I get nothing form mmb'd what did
they estimated? What is he's played fifty two percent of
the available minutes as a member of the Sixers. That's
kind of an interesting prospect if that's not a one
year sample size either for Brownie James and for the Lakers.

Speaker 3 (07:18):
There's a couple of things that go on with it.

Speaker 5 (07:20):
They just had a tremendous run of games, right, what
were they winners of five of six before that game
against Philadelphia, some weary legs trying to extend the bench.
Get him some minutes and see if he's ready for
the jump up in class. You don't know when that's
gonna happen at the G League. As you said, guys
are you know he was starting to play a little

(07:42):
more consistently on both ends of the court.

Speaker 3 (07:45):
So you see, if you can catch lightning in a bottle.

Speaker 5 (07:47):
Now, Tyrese Maxey's not the guy that you're gonna go
find that against, right, one of your better players in
the game at that position, So that's gonna be difficult.
But all said is you found out, asked and answered right,
and the rest of the squad didn't exactly show up
prepared to play that game either, so suddenly singling him out, Oh,

(08:10):
he's the worst travesty, he's the reason they lost. Uh,
and then trying to, you know, make it the indictment
of all things wrong with the world.

Speaker 3 (08:17):
No, no, this is not what I'm asking Adam Silver about.

Speaker 5 (08:20):
We got fourteen points on the docket before we even
get to anything about drafting, nepotism and the like. So yeah,
and enjoy it for what it is, or don't or
doesn't really, it's just just shrug your shoulders and move on.

Speaker 3 (08:36):
There's it's over. The stories overcomes.

Speaker 4 (08:39):
It's over.

Speaker 1 (08:40):
Because too many people talk about this like it's such
a big deal.

Speaker 6 (08:43):
Is he got chance? You did? Dding?

Speaker 5 (08:49):
It shows how fickle people are you known, MVP Chance
on the Road man Saturday Night on the road.

Speaker 3 (08:58):
If you start look at good luck in the garden, Yeah,
what's happening?

Speaker 1 (09:02):
If he has a big night, he will And by
a big night, I mean, you know, three points, I
mean that's probably that's probably a well.

Speaker 3 (09:07):
But like we joked about, guys, it's a thirty eight
point burial.

Speaker 4 (09:13):
Of course.

Speaker 5 (09:14):
So it's one of those things you're like, all right,
it's now the equivalent of the Bronx cheer. Eah, hey,
look Bronni did something. Yeah, Oh, look at Bronni scored
against us.

Speaker 1 (09:25):
Now look, I'm not saying this isn't a story because
Bronnie James playing with the Lakers and lebron It is
a story. It's just not the story the way that
I see it presented on TV and and and and
on other shows, where oh, this is this is the
worst thing in the world all how do the Lakers
allow this to that you can do the decline and
follow the Lakers and leave this out.

Speaker 4 (09:45):
What do we always say.

Speaker 1 (09:46):
Hey, you're a Hall of Famer if we can't tell
the story of your sport without you, right, you could
tell the story of the Lakers season and how they're
doing on the court without mentioning Bronnie James.

Speaker 6 (09:55):
You can't.

Speaker 1 (09:56):
I'm sure you can on the court on the court
without mentioning Bronnie James.

Speaker 5 (10:01):
This was instrumental to the foundation of this squad this year,
and negativity that really surrounded not only the hiring of
JJ Reddick, but the arrival of Bronnie James to it.
By the way, it's also for our friends in the
media that really want to wag their fingers about this again.
Next time the call comes from a buddy saying, Hey,

(10:22):
you guys have an internship program, right, you have to
politely decline that call.

Speaker 3 (10:30):
Jason, You still think I'm kidding, right, No.

Speaker 4 (10:32):
Dude, here's the thing.

Speaker 1 (10:34):
This story, This is a good story because it's fun.
It's it's interesting to see him play and see what
kind of player he is, to see how he evolves.
It's fun to see the dynamic. This is the story
to have fun with, right, this is the Hey, here's Bronnie,
here's Brian. Oh my god, can you believe this? His
dad's gotta be yelling at him after the game. But
what do you think he really wants to say when

(10:55):
he's asked questions following the game about Bronnie, Hey, give
me back more.

Speaker 3 (10:59):
Questions about us needing a center?

Speaker 6 (11:00):
Right?

Speaker 1 (11:00):
Like, this is a fun story, right, and and and
I hope the kid succeeds because it would be great
for us and great for the NBA if Bronnie James
plays well.

Speaker 4 (11:09):
Right, But but the way, because lebron is.

Speaker 1 (11:11):
So polarizing, it's over the top hate for Bronni. If
this was nough let's just say Yannis was forty years old, right,
let's go far. Let's just say Yannis was forty years old,
or let's just say Jokic was forty years old, and
all these guys were playing with their kids, right, whoever was,
and let's say this is what they were. Would there
be one tenth of the outrage that, oh, the Nuggets

(11:36):
drafted Jokic's kid, or the Bucks drafted Janie's kid to
come play, they drafted Yannis's brother. Hey, we got to
keep everybody happy, Like, would there be any of this
hate that, oh, my goodness, Yannis is calling the shots
and Yokic is calling the shots. There'd be no other
even though all of it is true. You think Jokic
is calling the shots in Denver, of course he is.
Is Yanni's calling the shots in Milwaukee, of course he is.

(11:57):
But because it's Lebron and he's got rising built in
since he walked into the NBA, the hate and the
attention of oh Bronnie James succeeding, and everybody wants to
say how much he stinks all like, you know, how
over the top it is just because it's Lebron. That's
not fair to the kid, right, that's not fair to Bronnie.
You know obviously, yes, hey, he accepted this, he came here,

(12:18):
he's playing. But the overall impact is just because of
how people feel towards Lebron James.

Speaker 4 (12:25):
Is why this story is going the way it is.

Speaker 1 (12:26):
There's nobody else in the NBA if their kid was playing,
would we spend one tenth of the time on this
and say that he shouldn't be in the league. And
I can't believe you cow taut to a star player,
like we want to change the way we would talk
about this for any other player and make it different
just because it's Lebron and I see right through it.

Speaker 4 (12:44):
And really that's why I say this is an overcovered story.

Speaker 1 (12:47):
You can have fun with it and talk about, hey,
the dunk, the way it should be and the way
we'll do it. The way we do stuff with Bronnie
is look at that dunk and the MVP chance and now,
of course he's got to be the MVP. Of course
he's got to get MVP votes over Big Bodega. Of
Course he's got to get him off with Shay gilts Is, Alexander,
You've got to get these like that's how you do it.

Speaker 4 (13:02):
But instead it's like it's the.

Speaker 1 (13:04):
Decline and Fall of Western Civilization part two without all
the heavy metal music you like.

Speaker 3 (13:10):
So we're going to like that with the grunge era.
Then you like that telephone.

Speaker 5 (13:16):
That, yeah, I mean there's a lot lots of things
you can spawn off of that. But you know, the
antenna compos you know, they got their run in the NBA.
Fanastis had is uh what six years seven years with
the squad. He hasn't played this year, but I think
he's still around the team. He might just be security detail.

Speaker 3 (13:37):
Yeah, but he never got MVP chance from the line.

Speaker 4 (13:39):
No, I don't know, I don't know.

Speaker 3 (13:42):
Yeah. The only guy that's really gotten this derision.

Speaker 5 (13:46):
Uh, and it's not a player playing with this kid
is Doc Rivers with Austin Rivers for a couple of years,
because that was a brutal, brutal world, especially when he
first signed that bigger con Trent.

Speaker 3 (14:01):
I mean you.

Speaker 5 (14:02):
Thought something really unholy had been earth under there. But
uh yeah, for for this, it's like it's great power,
great responsibility and great derision. Columns to be written and
clicks to be had, and in this day and age, uh,
you find your niche of folks that want to be

(14:24):
like minded with you in that regard, and uh, look,
take take that negative energy and if you want to
go down that rabbit hole, have at it for me.
I'm celebrating the MVP chancel here.

Speaker 3 (14:35):
He is everywhere we go, everywhere we go.

Speaker 1 (14:45):
If people want to see him everywhere we go, everywhere
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Speaker 4 (17:52):
Jay, what's happening, Bud?

Speaker 6 (17:53):
How are you doing, madam? I'm a little uh, I'm
doing okay. Man had a pretty crazy last days.

Speaker 4 (18:01):
Okay, what what happened?

Speaker 6 (18:02):
So I'm going I'm at the NFC Championship camp right,
I'm flying back. And when I'm flying back Fox He's like, oh,
when you land, you gotta go back to Philadelphia. You
gotta go through an aj Brown feature. So I said,
They're like, you should have stayed. I'm like, well, I
gotta go see my wife. Man. I love my wife.

(18:24):
I gotta go see her. You know when I don't
when I'm not around her. You guys know, she's my
anti depressant. I get a little, you know, this little
bipolar crazy. So I'm like, I see it's I go home,
I go see you, I go back. I take a
red eye. Here's my day. I take a red eye.
I land, I go in there, I get a workout
with some of the guys in the facility the Eagles.

(18:46):
Then the team chiropractor worked on me. Then I did
a sauna with Lane Johnson with a sauna workout, and
then UH me and during Malatta and Big Dom Nick
Sirianni we kind of hung out a little bit. Then
I did the Super Bowl feature with AJ. Then I
went back in and then a rabbi actually came over

(19:11):
and me and Howie rose in a rabbi. We all
prayed together in the in the team meeting room. I
can't make it up. This is my window. How he's
been like doing it like each week, and you can't
mess with something that's that's working great, you know, like
you got to keep doing it. And it's like a
rabbi he was like, help, it's been like by this,

(19:32):
like father in law's bedside has been great, and you can't.
So I'm like, dude, I'm in, you know. So Yank
came down still little prayer service, got back, got back
on the plane, and UH flew home and then we
went home for about five hours and then went to
get an epidural this morning because I kind of ramped

(19:54):
up my training and and I'm going back to Patama
for semshells. Two weeks after UH kept the Super Bowl
but I reharniated L one L two little little uh
epidural just kind of get me through, you know, New
Orleans and two Panama. So I get stem cells and

(20:14):
I know I'm getting the stem cells so I can
heal myself, but I keep hurt myself because I'm an idiot. Anyway, guys,
that's my Wednesday. What did you guys do?

Speaker 5 (20:26):
The only I've had COVID so there, dude, the only
thing listened from you is is reading a book with
AJ Brown.

Speaker 4 (20:35):
That's the only thing.

Speaker 6 (20:36):
I Did you bring the book? He said? No? I said, bro,
By the way, I wrote a book.

Speaker 3 (20:40):
I wish you read my book.

Speaker 6 (20:45):
But what I here's the thing, like, I love AJ
and I actually met Aj because of mental health. I
did like when he first got the team. Big Dom
Security said, hey man, I wanted to meet AJ Brown.
AJ goes through same stuff that you struggle with that
Lane Johnson struggles with and many just connected us to min.
I got you and literally on the field before the

(21:09):
game the other day, he and I go up. I
see him. I said, hey man, I'm proud of you.
And he just got through some really hard times. He's
really really dark, tossed and he's been open about it.
I'm proud of you for it. And I said, Bro,
we've got to use our pain to help others do theirs.
And I'm proud of you for this because a lot
of people don't do that. They hide it, like being

(21:32):
of service helps us through this. So literally we're on
the fifteen yard line and I'm grabbing him and we're like, Bro,
I'm proud of you because you've bottled up for all
these years and now you're opening up. Your pain is
going to help others through THEIRS. I'm proud of you.
And that's what we got to do, and we help
each other. I'm like, that's it's a pretty cool thing.
It's a pretty cool connection. But you can connect with

(21:54):
dudes like this. We can use our platforms to help others.
And you know, for years I was wondering, like why
am I in this p and why have I been
cursed with depression and anxiety and bipolar and ADHD. And
then I realized, man, I would it's not a curse.
This It happens so I can help others with their journey.
Is is the way I've got to look at it.

(22:16):
You know, again, my paint is there so I can
help others to theirs. And I'm just proud. Like AJ
has been vocal about it, you know, I go and
talk to teams about it now. And there's other guys.
There's a lot of guys that I talked to on
teams about this stuff that won't do what AJ does.
They're just not comfortable. They're not there yet. That's fine,
Like it's look, there's no there is no hey, you

(22:39):
should do this, you should do that. There's no you know,
actual guidebook of Hey, if you have depression, you have
to do this. No, we have a different, different battle.
There's guys like I've gotten to talk to teams. I'm
looking straight at guys who we talk constantly, and I
think they're gonna get up and tell the whole team. Yeah,
Jay and I talked about it. If they don't stand it,
and that's great, no problem, right. The other guys like, hey, guys, yeah,

(23:02):
I started opening up. We started talking about it. It's
our own journey. Everybody's journeys is their journey. All our
problems weigh the same, you know. And the biggest thing too,
for like a lot of us, man, I really thought,
for me, I thought, if I got rich and famous,

(23:22):
I wouldn't be in pain anymore. And it was a
hard day when I realized, Damn, my wallet is not
an antidepressant. Damn. I thought this should do the rainbows
and unicorns. This sucks, Like, why am I still freaking miserable?
Why ale I so tortured still? Why do I still
feel like a piece of garbage? Why do I still

(23:43):
feel unworthy of being in love? Like? And I was
actually on when I had I had this conversation with
myself during an episode of Talking Up on Sunday, while
I'm in the football field talking to America, I'm having
this conversation with myself.

Speaker 3 (23:58):
Wow.

Speaker 6 (23:59):
Yeah, it was one of powerful things. And I was like,
and it was, it was, it was hard, But now
I was like, now I really need other help. And
that's when I really started to like go on his
journey and then start opening up and start talking. And
thank god I did, because there is a lot of
dark a lot of darkness. And my whole thing with
AJ was like, man, you went through a dark tunnel,

(24:26):
Like my whole thing unbreakable, all of us, we go
through that dark tunnel. Do you come through the other
side of that tunnel? Means it didn't break you. So
whatever didn't break you, it couldn't break you, makes you
stronger forever. That's what being unbreakable is. Unbreakable is not
being rich and famous and strong and powerful, have a title.
It's your scars. It's all the things that could have broken,

(24:46):
shouldn't and didn't. As a result, you came to the
other side of the tunnel stronger forever. And I'm like, AJ,
because you did not let that tunnel cave in on you,
and you get to walk out the ultimate tunnel. Next
Sunday has a pretty cool moment for us.

Speaker 1 (25:00):
Wow, Jake Lazer, whether it's here, Jason Smith, Mike Harmon
lives from the tirec dot Com studios. I can't wait
to see that interview. I was I gonna run what
the morning of the Super Bowl? Is that what it's
gonna run?

Speaker 6 (25:11):
Yeah? Super super Bowl pregame show. It's well, this is
all just conversations about the feature is gonna be something
kind of like that? But it's but it's also just
just my thoughts I'm saying on AJ, he's just he's
a special dude. Like I think he's misunderstood. It's funny
when when I'm in there. Also, I'm like, hey, I'm
doing this feature on AJ. So I'm talking, like I

(25:31):
told you, I'm talking to everybody in the team. I'm like, hey,
give me stuff. I should ask him, Well, tell me down.
I don't know about him. Every single dude I asked
about AJ, give me something that I don't know about.
A joke. Everyone said, this dude loves football more than
ever been on our team. He's so misunderstood, like he
just what datches? Football is just it's just think he's

(25:55):
just it's his thing. He loves it, and it gets misconstrued.
Whether it's a frustration here or there, it's not. It's
not always not getting the ball, He's not. He just
loves football and he beats up on himself. It's in
every series thing we talked about. He said, every series,
I'm like, man, what did I not do there? What

(26:17):
did I not do here? Almost like I think I
said in the interview, each series, it's like you're taking
a stool in between rounds of a fight and you're
trying to let Okay, what do I do wrong on
that round? What could have I done better? Why do
I do better for this next round? He goes, yes,
every series. I sit down. He goes, that's why I
read that book. I sit down and I try and

(26:38):
get myself. Man, what let's heal? Let's do better? How
do I do better on this next series? He gets
that deep and that's something he's misunderstood. People don't understand it.
Like he six inches between you, between your ears, most
powerful weapon in the world. They could take you down
the worst rabbit hole ever, or they could walk you
through the most incredible tunnel like on Sunday.

Speaker 1 (27:01):
Tell me you kind of deal with him at the
end and if they win the game. He holds your
book up when he's on the sideline that I.

Speaker 6 (27:09):
Said, did you have that book? And I'm sitting he
he didn't bring the book with him. I said, why
did I not bring my book with me? What kind
of promoter of my damn? But I did ask I
did ask them. I said, dude, I said hey, And
again we got linked up because I was talking about
because I've helped Lane Johnson a lot with his mental

(27:29):
health issues. Lane is, oh, me a lot with my
mental health issues and actually go like this is like
real talk, Like I landed. I'm like out of my mind. Guys,
I'm like, I land in LA, I see my wife,
I repack, I fly back him on two hours of
sleep in two days. The roommates of my head are
killing me. And I get to work out. I'm trying

(27:51):
to do my thing. I'm trying to do my breathwork
of meditation. I get in the sauna with Lane, and
I just like, dude, I'm not in a good place.
Like think about that, Like you could never we would
never done this years ago, but that was my thing.
Like as much as I have helped Lane, Lane has
helped me. Like I went in there, I'm like, dude,
I'm not good right now. He's like, What's up? And

(28:11):
I'm sitting so with Lane's auf and talking mental health,
like dude, I'm just I'm just out of my mind
right now. Like I'm just, you know, I'm not I
haven't had my rituals that I need to keep me
shane and keep me from beating up with myself and
keep me from going dark. And and we literally talked
it out in twenty twenty five minutes in the sauna
and you know, got a little laughs in which I

(28:32):
need also talked me through it a little bit and
kind of got me good for the interview, so we talked.
I did that. I had that relationship with Lane and
some others on the team. There's been more of the Lane,
but again Lane's talking about open least I'll say people
who haven't, I'm not going to. So that's how AJ
and I originally got linked up, and I did say

(28:54):
him and I wanted to read the book because my book,
I'm Breakable, it's it's it's it gives it words from
somebody like me. It's not I'm not a therapist. I'm
not a doctor, not a teacher. I'm not a priest
or clergy. You rab right, I'm just a dude who's
clearly messed up. But it's good with his messed upness,
and I know how to talk about it. If you

(29:15):
give it words, then we know how to talk about
it with others. And you could sit there like, man,
you got two bad sobs. Me and Lane Johnson sitting
in the sauna and I'm talking about struggling, and he's
talking about struggling, like obviously there's no shame in that, right.
No one's gonna question his mannood. No, the question of
my man in it. You may say why you guys
sitting in the sauna talking about this but.

Speaker 5 (29:39):
Right process, Yeah, but you know what I mean, Like
it's we're changing the narrative.

Speaker 6 (29:45):
Like guys like A J. Brown, Guys like Lane Johnson,
guys like me, we're changing the freaking narrative. Well, because
we're not. We're not the we're not the supporting cast anymore. Right,
We're It's everywhere. It's not just we're not just in
the shadows anymore. Everybody's going through something and we're giving

(30:06):
it words. So I'm proud of AJ for open Up.
I'm proud of It's the biggest stage in the world.
Fox is super Bowl here and he agreed, Yeah, I'll
talk about my mental stuff. I'm proud of.

Speaker 4 (30:17):
I'm really proud Lane Johnson, A J.

Speaker 1 (30:21):
Brown and and and you sum it up, You're big
week or just the last couple of days on Unbreakable
of Mental Wealth podcast, you had Dustin Rhodes on.

Speaker 3 (30:29):
You had Wrestling Royalty Odd with you this week.

Speaker 6 (30:32):
Yeah, that's pretty cool, man. Wow, you want to fuck
you guys? Gotta go watch that thing, huts me. You
gotta listen to that. That's incredible because he talked about
right He's like, hey, I fought the devil and I won,
And it was like whoa he he was so real
and wrong again. Yeah, Like obviously Dusty Rhoades, his dad
is incredible, Cody Roads Brothers star. He's a star. You know,

(30:52):
he was gold Dust. He's a legend. He's a Hall
of Famer and he's unbelievable. But he was. What he's
doing now is just incredible. But the cool thing too,
I didn't know. He's like, Hey, the ww is the one.
They have a great program for guys who are struggling.
They got me on a plane to reap. Like you
call them, they get you. They take care of their people.

(31:13):
I was like, wow, I love to hear that. But
he was just, dude, this is two dudes. Like I'm
talking right now, Lane and AJ and I were talking
Sam with me and Dustin man, we were just talking
up and we didn't know each other, but we never met,
but we knew each other if I could, if that
makes sense, we understood each other. This is what I

(31:34):
should say.

Speaker 1 (31:36):
You want more on this Jay's Twitter page at Jay
Glazer It's right up there. The link Unbreakable a Mental
Wealth podcast. Dustin Rhoades talks about at one point in
his life he was taking up.

Speaker 4 (31:46):
To forty pills a day.

Speaker 1 (31:48):
Phenomenal stuff there again, the link is right there at
Jay Laser on Twitter where you get your podcast from Unbreakable,
a mental health podcast. Well, Jay, take a break, chill out,
go to bed man rets now my friend ex right now,
will be good. Keep fighting the good fight man. We'll
talk to you next week. Have fun, save travels.

Speaker 3 (32:10):
Brother.

Speaker 1 (32:11):
Oh, great stuff. Wow Glazer, Wow, just about it. Just
his journey and AJ Brown's. I can't wait to see
that interview. Now I'll talk about mental health stuff. It's
the super Bowl. I'll do it. Just great, great stuff
as always from Jay again, hit him up on his
Twitter page. You see it right there at Jay Glazer
for links to all the things he is doing. Right now,
let's link up with Monty Blago. She's got what's trending

(32:33):
in the wide world of sports, which I will hopefully
will include Moncey, the fact that you cursed the Utah
hockey team last night. Who had Hey, we got the
three finalists for the names, and you're saying, whatsatch? What's whatsatch?
Wats I don't know what? And all of a sudden
they said, today, Okay, Watch is out. Yes, that's not
one of the finalists anymore. We're replacing Watch.

Speaker 7 (32:52):
Yes with Outlaws with Outlaws. So it's now Utah Outlaws,
Utah Mammoth or Utah Hockey Club. I mean, we all
were when I said that, everyone was like, what is that?

Speaker 3 (33:02):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (33:02):
What was that?

Speaker 7 (33:03):
It did not work, So I'm glad they actually listened
to the show. Obviously they were listening because that's where
they got that from. Yeah, So we only have great
ideas here at Fox Sports Radio, always exactly.

Speaker 4 (33:15):
Let's check in on the NBA.

Speaker 7 (33:17):
Only five games tonight. Usually we have a full slate
of games, just five three currently going on. Timberwolves have
extended their leader with the Jazz eighty five sixty six
late in the third quarter Anthony Edwards twenty four points,
six rebounds, nine assists. At halftime, the Rockets are beating
the Grizzlies sixty six to fifty six, and after the
first quarter, the Magic are on top of the Trailblazers

(33:38):
thirty five to twenty eight. Palo Bancaro eight points for
Orlando so far. The Lakers handed the Wizards their sixteenth
loss of this season. One thirty four to ninety six
was the final score. Wizards have won six games, guys, six.

Speaker 3 (33:51):
Like you have to try to lose that many?

Speaker 4 (33:54):
Well, what number is greater?

Speaker 1 (33:56):
The number of points Browny has scored this year or
wins for the Wizard.

Speaker 3 (34:00):
It's very close, still close, And that's what said MVP candidate. Sorry,
the chance that's right in Washington, right right.

Speaker 7 (34:11):
The Cavaliers roll rolled past the Hawks won thirty seven
to one fifteen. The Hawks that beat the Cavaliers back
to back games in November. The Cavs have only lost
nine games, so they salvage the final game between these two.
Darius Garland twenty six points and seven assists. We did
have the NBA All Star reserves announced, and yes, Norman
Powell was snubbed, but anyway, out of the Western Conference,

(34:33):
Anthony Edwards, Anthony Davis, James Harden, Jaren Jackson, Junior Alprin, Shanngon,
Jalen Williams, and Victor I Banyama.

Speaker 3 (34:40):
Out of the Eastern Conference.

Speaker 7 (34:42):
Jalen Brown, Pascal Siakam, Darius Garland, Kate Cunningham, Evan Mobley,
Damian Lillard, and Tyler hero In Men's college hoops number eighteen,
Illinois has come back. Nebraska is still on top, sixty
eight sixty seven, ninety seconds to go, and you can
gatge all the action on FS one with about ten
minutes to go. Number nineteen, Memphis on top of Tulane
forty eight to forty six. And lastly, here in the NFL,

(35:04):
Baltimore Ravens kicker Justin Tucker is denying allegations that he
exhibited inappropriate sexual behavior with multiple massage therapists from twenty
twelve to twenty sixteen, and the league says that the
number of concussions in the twenty twenty four regular season
were the lowest since the league started tracking the data
back in twenty fifteen.

Speaker 1 (35:23):
Back to you guys, all right now, I want to
ask you real quick, Jess, what numb?

Speaker 3 (35:27):
Because I have the answer.

Speaker 4 (35:28):
Uh huh? What number is? Harmon? Don't look it up?

Speaker 3 (35:30):
Okay, does Bronnie James.

Speaker 1 (35:32):
Have more points scored? Or do the Wizards have more wins?
What number is greater?

Speaker 7 (35:38):
Bronnie James has eleven points?

Speaker 4 (35:43):
Okay, that's where what do you say?

Speaker 3 (35:46):
Oh, I was taking Bronnie. You're taking an MVP candidate, Jason.

Speaker 1 (35:51):
This disrespect will not stand with his five points.

Speaker 3 (35:55):
Tonight, Bronni has passed the Wizards.

Speaker 4 (35:58):
He has nine. The Wizards have six wins.

Speaker 6 (36:02):
What a hater asked this question like that?

Speaker 3 (36:05):
Did you not hear the crowd? The eruption was because
he's hate watching it.

Speaker 7 (36:14):
You said nine points, so the Jazz. So the Jazz
have more wins than Bonnie has points.

Speaker 4 (36:21):
Yes, but for long he passed the Wizard.

Speaker 3 (36:24):
He passed the Wizards.

Speaker 4 (36:25):
Tonight he pattens back in the Wizards.

Speaker 5 (36:27):
Do you have to go and sign autographs for all
the people that chan and MVP or give him a
dollar or something?

Speaker 1 (36:32):
A dollar, here's a thank you for the chant, thank
you for the chat, thank you, here's a dollar.

Speaker 5 (36:37):
He's got a money guy walking around with singles and
so like he's got the little cards, like he's on
the Vegas Strip.

Speaker 3 (36:44):
Here's your dollar.

Speaker 1 (36:46):
Exit out out of Fresca exit Swallen Dope, Jason Smith,
park Carbon. Hey, we have the hottest NBA topic of
the night coming up next right here, Jason and Mike.

Speaker 3 (36:55):
This is Fox Sports.

Speaker 2 (36:56):
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Speaker 1 (37:04):
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Speaker 4 (37:37):
Now, today was a big day.

Speaker 1 (37:39):
We found out the rest of the All Stars for
NBA All Star Weekend. Wenby makes it, congratulations, Anthony Edwards
makes it. James Harden, who I thought had made his
last All Star team.

Speaker 4 (37:50):
You look, Jalen Brown. You had a lot of big names.

Speaker 1 (37:53):
You also had a lot of snubs and a couple
of snubs.

Speaker 4 (37:57):
I'm really stunned at you look.

Speaker 1 (38:00):
Guys like LaMelo Ball who gets snubbed, Trey Young gets snubbed,
Cyrus Max, he gets snubbed, Zach Levine, Devin Booker.

Speaker 4 (38:07):
De Monte Sabonis get snubbed.

Speaker 1 (38:08):
Look, I can't understand how you snub LaMelo Ball because
the guy got more votes than anybody, right, he was
the biggest vote getter for guards of anybody and having
a great year, and yet really you can't find a place.
So I think clearly people want to see LaMelo Ball
an All Star game because that's kind of where his
game is gonna look phenomenal. Right, he's gonna look, he
got all the all this, He's just gonna play street

(38:29):
ball in the passes.

Speaker 3 (38:30):
He'll take shots in half court like he did in
high school. Like, I don't know how you do that?

Speaker 5 (38:34):
Does his brother get to come with him and sing? Yes,
that's the halftime entertainment? Is Is that what they pitched?
That that had to happen and that's why he gets snubbed.

Speaker 1 (38:42):
Jello does this, Jello does a song, him and Lonzo
come in and then they play the rest of the game.

Speaker 4 (38:47):
That's how it came.

Speaker 5 (38:47):
We saw Jello's thing during the Lions run didn't work.

Speaker 1 (38:52):
But I can tell you this, Mike car because you
don't know this, I could tell you exactly why all
of these players got snubbed.

Speaker 4 (38:58):
Ooh, all of these players got snubbed.

Speaker 5 (39:02):
Whether they're all filling in at the uh the Pro
Bowl stuff, No, no, no, no, whether, no matter who
you want to say, who are the big snubs?

Speaker 6 (39:10):
Right?

Speaker 1 (39:11):
It was if it's LaMelo or Maxi or Levine or Sabanis,
they all have the.

Speaker 4 (39:16):
Same thing in common.

Speaker 3 (39:17):
Right, Oh, okay, they all have the thing and it's.

Speaker 4 (39:20):
Just one thing. It's just one thing they all have
in common. That's it.

Speaker 3 (39:25):
There's not a comment. That's it.

Speaker 1 (39:27):
I don't need to tell you a whole bunch of
things where well maybe in this category maybe here maybe No, no, no, no,
just one thing they all it's just one thing.

Speaker 4 (39:35):
Ask me what that one thing is?

Speaker 3 (39:38):
But what is that one thing?

Speaker 4 (39:40):
That's not what it is? What that is? Just one thing?
Just one thing?

Speaker 3 (39:45):
Okay. Their teams stink, That's what.

Speaker 1 (39:49):
I can't give anything else other than all of these
players that people really want to see. Their teams all stink, right,
The Hawk stink, the Sixers stink, the King stink.

Speaker 4 (39:58):
They all stink.

Speaker 1 (39:59):
The the Suns are terrible, the Bulls stink. Every they
all stink. Right, These are all players, and I'd love.

Speaker 4 (40:04):
To see play.

Speaker 1 (40:05):
I'd love to see a couple of these guys more
than I want to see Pascal Siaka and know by
the way, you know he.

Speaker 4 (40:09):
Makes it okay.

Speaker 1 (40:10):
But still all of these I mean, I don't know
what else to say other than all of these teams
are bad and so that that went against them when
when in the selection process, somehow I don't because they
just they just are all bad. But that's it. But
we don't care about that. That's what That's why I
don't That's why I'm not down with this. I don't
like it because I don't care if a team is bad.
You have great players play on bad teams all the time.

(40:30):
Steph Curry's on a bad team. We got to see
stuff right like this is this is kind of ridiculous
that you have a lot of showmen that people want
to see in the All Star Game and we're not
seeing them.

Speaker 5 (40:41):
Well, in the end, you have to just expand rosters
to forty five slots. It'll be just fine. And then
and then yeah, and each gets to run out for
ten minutes like Adam Silver wants to. You just bring
that to the All Star Game. Yeah, sorry, also, you
get to play the fourth quarter. Oh, I get ten minutes.

Speaker 1 (40:58):
It's only forty minut yeah, playing, We're only playing forty
minutes in the All Star Game. That's all we got
for it. I mean really, just because their teams stink,
these guys. I'd rather see Trey Young than Pascal Siakamer.
I'd rather see LaMelo Ball than I mean really, I
really just because their teams are bad.

Speaker 4 (41:12):
We're not gonna take you, not gonna take you.

Speaker 3 (41:14):
Yeah, welcome, Welcome to All Star Hell.

Speaker 4 (41:17):
That's a look.

Speaker 5 (41:17):
Adam Silver put more time tending to fix in this
nonsense than his actual game.

Speaker 1 (41:22):
Coming up next, we got a big story out of
the NFL. Would you rather have a super Bowl or
an MVP? Superstar? First videos and photos of this person
in two years, and I'm like, oh my goodness, I
gotta see this. And I got the stories out of control.
So we'll have that coming up in about twenty minutes.
But as you mentioned a few minutes ago, I asked
you a question, would you rather have an NFL.

Speaker 4 (41:43):
MVP or a super Bowl championship?

Speaker 3 (41:48):
Mike Harmon, I'll take the super Bowl, Okay, I.

Speaker 1 (41:54):
Would take the super Bowl as well because you know
it's the super Bowl and I can have a ring
that I could show everybody.

Speaker 3 (41:59):
It's say, hey, the super Bowl.

Speaker 1 (42:01):
However, former NFL quarterback Cam Newton was on ESPN earlier
today and was asked by Trent by Trent Dilfer, I'm sorry.
It was asked on the show about guys like Trent Dilfer,
Nick Foles, all these people, and he was asked, would
you rather have a super Bowl victory, remember they lost
the Super Bowl to the Broncos, or your MVP? Because

(42:24):
Newton won the NFL MVP during his career, and here
was Cam Newton's answer.

Speaker 8 (42:31):
I asked you, Cam, if you could give back that
league MVP for a super Bowl championship, would you do it?

Speaker 4 (42:37):
Nope?

Speaker 3 (42:38):
Oh will really? Wow? What's more important? Impact or championships?

Speaker 8 (42:46):
If we're being honest, the impact of you holding yourself
accountable to say everybody has.

Speaker 3 (42:52):
A responsibility to do.

Speaker 8 (42:54):
And you could say, as an MVP award winner or
all of the American you've hailed Joe sil or you've
hailed Joe into the bargain down. And that's what it
really comes down to for me. I know that's not
the popular pick. I'm trying to be popularized. But my
take is I'm taking individual success because I did my job.

Speaker 1 (43:19):
So the ultimate team sport, the ultimate team sport. Cam
Newton saying, there's there's no I in team, but there's
an M and E and that's me ultimate team sport.

Speaker 3 (43:29):
Yeah, I of course I'd rather have the MVP. If
he wanted it, he would have jumped on that damn ball.

Speaker 5 (43:35):
But that's the thing, right, you asked the wrong damn
question here.

Speaker 1 (43:39):
Well, no, I think they asked the right question because
I got the answer they wanted.

Speaker 3 (43:42):
Nope, not giving back the MVP.

Speaker 1 (43:45):
I mean, this is I'm glad he's honest, Right, I'm
always glad when people answer honestly.

Speaker 3 (43:50):
But boy, I was not surprised to.

Speaker 4 (43:53):
Hear this answer from him.

Speaker 1 (43:54):
I'm not because this is this is who Cam Newton
was like when he came into the league. He said,
I don't want to be known as a quarterback. I
want to be known as an entertainer. I mean, how
much was hey was Cam Newton? You would know he
was going to be out and he was gonna make
the team better, and he was going to be a
team first, was going to be a leader.

Speaker 3 (44:10):
No, he wasn't.

Speaker 1 (44:11):
Now he was a great player. Cam Newton was a
great player again League MVP. But and when you're a quarterback,
you're supposed to be a leader. And the Cam Newton say,
oh no, no, I did my job. I didn't win
a super Bowl because none of you guys did your job,
like I mean, this is this is I'm not surprised
by it at all. But wow, does he not see

(44:33):
the forest through the trees on this? Cam Newton's legacy
is he's the guy that didn't jump on the fumble
in the Super Bowl because he made a business decision.

Speaker 3 (44:41):
Right, this is? This is a Super Bowl.

Speaker 1 (44:43):
The game comes down to the fourth quarter, it's a
turnover and Newton might be able to get to the football. Right,
this is a close game. Right, It was a close game.
And the fumble. The ball is on the ground and
Newton takes a couple of steps and stops and he
could have dove on it to try to get it,
but he didn't. Right, and he's a big dude, Right,
he could have dove on and get it. Instead, the
Broncos get the fumble, it's a big turnover. They go

(45:06):
on to win the Super Bowl. That's Cam Newton's legacy.

Speaker 3 (45:09):
Man, I get that. If it's week twelve, week.

Speaker 1 (45:12):
Nine, Hey, business decision here, You're gonna get criticized for it.
But bigger things at stake. If you're eleven and two
or thirteen and one, Hey, better not to get hurt.
But it's the bleep in Super Bowl, man, and you
decide I'm gonna make a business decision and not fall
on the football. I'm not trying to get the football.
I'm not surprised. I'm not surprised. He's a great quarterback.
And this tells you what kind of teammate he must

(45:34):
have been, you know, because you know he's not hiding
stuff in the huddle about who he is and what
he's up for, you know, I mean, you know, you
know he's not suddenly Hey, I'm a real big team
guy and team team, team and at the end sudding, Hey,
I got my MVP.

Speaker 3 (45:45):
I mean, I am not surprised at all.

Speaker 1 (45:48):
In a sport that is prioritized as the best team
sport in the world, I'm choosing individual achievement over winning
the Super Bowl.

Speaker 4 (45:57):
That is Cad. That is Cam Newton one.

Speaker 5 (46:00):
Which is funny because he's been asked about the fumble
how many hundreds of times in the years following, And
he's been very upfront, at least in the last and
very candid the last couple of years of how much
he regrets not going after set the bumble.

Speaker 3 (46:17):
So I would think.

Speaker 5 (46:18):
That would be in his head, you know, as we
get ready for you know, the Super Bowl, that his life,
his career would be looked at a lot differently because
we remember MVP awards, we certainly do, and we count
them up. But there's always the deal with the devil

(46:40):
of Yeah, how many of those would you give up
for a little bit more in terms of the team's success, right,
Because we remember super Bowl champions, we remember guys that
were part of those teams. You look at our teammate
on the Fox Properties Friend of the Show, been on
with us a few times, Mark Shaler.

Speaker 3 (47:00):
Hey, he'll always line him up.

Speaker 5 (47:02):
He's not known for having a a glorious career, but
damn it, he was a starter of three Super Bowl teams.

Speaker 9 (47:11):
Right, you hang your hat on the guys you went
to war with that ultimately brought down the Lombardi and
brought that home and you got the pocket well, you know,
fist folds of confetti to say hey, I was there,
I was on the field.

Speaker 3 (47:28):
We got this done.

Speaker 4 (47:30):
For Cam Newton.

Speaker 5 (47:30):
It's always gonna be hey, you didn't go after that fumble,
did you? Because I mean, during that MVP year, a
lot of great things, but there were a lot of
great players on that squad.

Speaker 1 (47:40):
Well, and that's what he's got on and that's what
he never understands, and he doesn't understand now that football.
You could you could have picked the result, Like I know,
this is fantasy, you choosing MVP recuperle. He says, No,
you could have had a result that is so much
bigger than yourself. It's about the other fifty two guys
on the team and the coach and the and the

(48:01):
people who work for the Panthers and the fans. It's
so much bigger. But no, I would rather not win
the Super Bowl. I'd rather have my MVP because I'm
the only I did it right. I'd nobody else block form.
Apparently he did all by himself right, the ultimate team sport.
Nobody else block for him. Nobody said, hey, Cam, just
make make the yards on your own, make the passes
on your own. I believe he caught every pass he

(48:22):
threw nobody else. Steve Smith didn't catch any passes. He
caught every pass he threw, like he wants to take
individual credit for an ultimate team sport and not think
it all about that how big this is outside of himself,
which is an incredibly selfish way to think.

Speaker 4 (48:38):
And but to say, yes, I did this, I did
my job.

Speaker 1 (48:42):
Oh, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. The offensive line keeping you
up right didn't didn't save your job. Really, really, the
wide receiver is making the plays they needed to and
getting yack.

Speaker 4 (48:51):
They didn't.

Speaker 1 (48:51):
They didn't do their job. Sorry, that was all you.
That was every part was you.

Speaker 3 (48:54):
His argument is so flawed, and he is so selfish
and so.

Speaker 1 (48:58):
Elitist, like this is a exactly who Cam Newton is, right,
and this is why he probably hadn't won a Super
Bowl because this was his attitude all the way through. Right,
and just think about this part, right, think about because
this is this is the other.

Speaker 4 (49:09):
Part that even makes it even worse.

Speaker 1 (49:12):
No one usually the question if somebody is, hey, would
you give back all of your touchdowns? Like you say
to Dan Marino, would you give back every single one
of your touchdowns to win the Super Bowl?

Speaker 6 (49:22):
Right?

Speaker 1 (49:22):
And then you're asking Dan Marino, you're going to give
back your whole career to win the Super Bowl, And
that's that's more of a question, right, But that's usually
how it's asked.

Speaker 3 (49:30):
Would you give every goal you scored in your career.

Speaker 4 (49:33):
To win the Stanley Cup?

Speaker 6 (49:34):
Right?

Speaker 1 (49:34):
Would you give every point you scored in the NBA
to win to win the NBA title?

Speaker 6 (49:39):
Right?

Speaker 1 (49:39):
Would you give give back every home run you ever
hit to win a World Series?

Speaker 3 (49:43):
Barry Bonds?

Speaker 1 (49:44):
Would you give back every home run you ever hit
to win the World Series? Like, that's a tough question.
You saying, Okay, now you're asking me for my career.
You're not asking Cam Newton for It's just hey, MVP,
you could have the same exact career, same same career. Man,
you just don't win the MVP. Somebody else wins it
by a couple of votes. No, I'm still taking the
MVP over it. Wow, that is a special answer from
Cam Newton.

Speaker 6 (50:04):
Man.

Speaker 3 (50:04):
Jason went.

Speaker 5 (50:05):
When we talked to Jason Cole yesterday, one of the
things you tried to extract was information related to this
year's Hall of Fame balloting. Right, He's one of the
club that will go through and debate it and says,
you know, with all the polling and everything that's gone down,
there's seven people that are really gonna be at the
forefront of debates. I wonder if Steve Smith is one

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of those guys and whether a Super Bowl win might
have helped him a bit in this process.

Speaker 6 (50:35):
Right.

Speaker 5 (50:35):
Good run with the Panthers, obviously, but all those years
with the Panthers, he's just known as the diminutive, angry
wide receiver.

Speaker 3 (50:45):
Oh yeah, who was really skillful too.

Speaker 5 (50:48):
But if you have that Super Bowl in your pocket, boy,
you might be walking towards Cooperstown a little differently, you know,
likewise Louke Keickley. So yeah, chaos man, chaos. But hey,
look he wore the Fedora. Well he's always been kind
the couple of times I had to talk to him

(51:08):
and had an opportunity to to to wax poetic about
football and you know his thoughts on things. That's all
fine and good, but he's missing the boat on this one.

Speaker 1 (51:19):
I mean, I don't know what my favorite part is
the fact that it's not they didn't ask for his
whole career, just.

Speaker 4 (51:25):
The m v P.

Speaker 1 (51:26):
The fact that he's choosing what he did you know,
Hey what I did my part?

Speaker 4 (51:30):
I did my part.

Speaker 1 (51:31):
Oh nobody else did their part apparently right, but you did,
you did your part.

Speaker 4 (51:34):
I I don't know.

Speaker 1 (51:35):
I don't know my favorite, but boy, what a teammate
he must have been.

Speaker 3 (51:38):
What what do you think he didn't jump on the
This is exactly why, because he made.

Speaker 1 (51:44):
He made a business decision. He didn't care about winning
the Super He was there, he was I'm in the
super Bowl, I'm entertaining. I'm here win or lose a okay,
And I know you know, Look, he caught a lot
of flack, mainly after the Super Bowl, if you remember,
for walking out of his postgame press conference, which I
don't care about. I don't think anybody cares about. And
you find out that the reason he walked out is

(52:05):
because he was hearing behind him other Broncos players getting
interviewed who were saying, yeah, we knew we could do this,
and we could do this, and we could do this,
and he just didn't want to sit there and answer
questions about losing while other guys were ten feet from
him and he could hear all that.

Speaker 3 (52:19):
So I understand that, but again, it's talking after.

Speaker 1 (52:21):
The Super Bowl what does it really matter, I mean
not falling on When Thomas Davis, I think about how
his arm, forearm looked like a zipper.

Speaker 3 (52:29):
It looks I wanted in the super Bowl so bad.

Speaker 1 (52:31):
It looked like looked like I could grab his forearm
and throw it right like that's lace of a football.

Speaker 4 (52:35):
That's what he did to play in that game.

Speaker 1 (52:37):
If I was Thomas Davis, I would say, you see this,
this is what I did so I could play.

Speaker 4 (52:41):
And win this bleeping game. And you can't fall in
a fumble. I meane it.

Speaker 3 (52:44):
What What a special teammate he must have been.

Speaker 4 (52:46):
Man, what a special teammate