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February 4, 2025 • 55 mins

Jason Smith and Mike Harmon and NFL Insider Jason La Canfora with all the latest from Super Bowl Opening Night, Cooper Kupp’s future and Myles Garrett.  Plus, Jason explains why the Mavs made the best deal they could get for Luka!

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Speaker 1 (00:36):
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Speaker 2 (00:43):
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I get time to wait to recharge and you know, okay,

(01:08):
I get some time. We got a couple of days. Yes,
no football this weekend. Now, apparently we don't even need football.
With the aftermath of the Luka Doncic Anthony Davis trade
that goes down Saturday night, and it's still insane to
think about, even a day and a half later, that
this trade actually went down. You know, Frostburg to say,
or I know you guys were insane when it happened.

(01:29):
Although Frostburg I got to say, I got a bone
to pick with you, man. I mean, I knew this
was legit. I knew this was legit trade. I called
you three times. You didn't answer your phone. I even
called your wife's phone to tell you, dude, you just
traded for Luka Donjons. Nope, don't pick up your phone
at all. I even texted you, pick up your phone.
I know something, and you never called me back. You

(01:51):
didn't pick up your phone the entire time. Sorry to
tell you, Jason, he's at the Laker parade right now.
That's what it was like. I'm telling you, man, when
the trade goes down Saturday.

Speaker 3 (02:06):
The sham tweet, we should say.

Speaker 1 (02:08):
Yes, the Sham's tweet comes out, and right away there
was all the I don't know if it's real as
it reels at not right, and I knew right away
it was just because Shams is so obviously being on
social media as much as as much as he is,
you know, he lives and you know, lives and breathes
on social media. If someone hacked him and put that
trade out there, there would have been some kind of

(02:31):
of of of tweet right after. There would have been
some sort of of hey, this didn't happen. Hey my
my account got hacked. What's happening? And there wasn't and
you could tell it was the real All you gotta
do is click on and see if he's got millions
and millions of followers and that's him, So you knew
it was there, and it was it was. It was
insane and.

Speaker 4 (02:47):
Event the other beat writers, La Times, Chris Haynes, they came.

Speaker 1 (02:51):
Out, damn Wakey had it. You know, it comes on
the show all the time. Laker insider says, yes, I
can tell you this trade happened. It's dude, It's like,
oh my goodness. Now I was really happy because I know, Okay, well,
now I don't have to worry about Frostburg telling me
you're gonna wear this Lakers win over the Nick Smith.
You're gonna wear this on Monday Night. We're gonna play
the highlights all the time. It's like that even happen

(03:12):
with the it doesn't even matter. And the Knicks are
gonna beat the Rockets now, so that doesn't matter. So
I'm driving and two big things like it hits me.
I'm like, this is almost like when when when I
had my daughter and I'm calling everybody to tell them, right, like,
because i know people Laker for everybody I know, I'm
calling to talk to them every Hey, dude, this happened.
This is this trade is real? What's going on? And

(03:34):
and on the way as I'm driving talking to people
like I'm driving, you know, probably about a ten minute drive.
This is just you know, the suburban Los Angeles and
people are driving and they're honking their horns and they're
yelling out the window, and it was like the Lakers
won the title like this, the excitement you could tell
was just it just captured the city, the Luca for

(03:54):
eighty trade. Look, La is a basketball time. We've been
a basketball town for a long time, right, one of
the few true basketball towns where hey, what's number one basketball?

Speaker 4 (04:04):
Actually, you don't let you know you're you're right because
people when we talk in the football context about Los Angeles,
And it was a conversation for years when there was
no franchise. We like you and I living in Los
Angeles for years, had to remind people it's Lakers and Dodgers.
Anything else, even when USC football was dominant is a
distant third.

Speaker 3 (04:24):
It's Lakers Dodgers.

Speaker 1 (04:25):
Yeah, I was. I was stunned with the draw it was.
It was really it was like riding a wave, like
look at all these they're just yelling out the way
they yelling Lakers out the window stage and these are
just these are just on the streets beeping their horns.
Laker flags are out them on the cars. Like this
trade is like eight minutes old, and this is and
this is what's going on right now.

Speaker 3 (04:45):
A little longer than that.

Speaker 4 (04:46):
Can I just add some Laker fan that I knew
usually takes a leisurely Sunday and just has the Sunday
paper and exhales for the day.

Speaker 3 (04:55):
It didn't make it into the Sunday paper.

Speaker 5 (04:57):
This morning I get a text AD gone, yes, yes,
it happened like forty eight hours ago. Yes this morning
this you said, Oh no, no, that was a fake
trade didn't happen?

Speaker 1 (05:09):
Yeah, no, no, well.

Speaker 4 (05:10):
It didn't actually officially happen till today. The Lakers did
announce yes press conference with Luca tomorrow morning. He arrived
private playing last night.

Speaker 1 (05:18):
They rescinded the deal because everybody is mad about it. No,
because everybody's hurt all the time.

Speaker 4 (05:23):
That that would actually be a really realistic heck and
tweet that.

Speaker 1 (05:27):
Yeah, because Ai David Stern has negated the deal for
basketball reasons.

Speaker 4 (05:32):
We do know officially that Anthony Davis now with Dallas,
is not playing tomorrow. He's with missed a week. And
we can add to that with the abdominal string. I mean,
I I it was.

Speaker 1 (05:42):
I'm calling people and it's and it's just a crazy
situation and I'm like, I'm really at Frostburg, Like where
were you? Man? Like, like you, how do you not
pick I even text? You pick up your phone? How
do you not pick up your phone? That I was
having a garden party? Okay, like Donald Sterry, Yeah, you
like domination at the garden Saturday night by my Lakers.

Speaker 3 (06:03):
Okay, Madison Square garden party.

Speaker 6 (06:04):
Thanks.

Speaker 4 (06:04):
You see, once again we all forgot there was a
game on Saturday night.

Speaker 1 (06:07):
Yeah, why so well, no, because we texted. The thing
is we texted right after the game and you get
in all caps. You're gonna wear this on Monday? Party started, Steve.

Speaker 7 (06:17):
Yeah, And if you thought for one second I was
gonna let Jason Smith into the ring party for the
Lakers getting.

Speaker 1 (06:23):
Luca the ring party was magic. There was tweeting stuff,
benefits of happiness.

Speaker 4 (06:30):
Can we all just do we all agree that if
Nicks Lakers had been a day game Saturday, this would
have been announced much earlier instead of what midnight or
so eastern as it was.

Speaker 1 (06:40):
Yeah, yeah, I mean was picking up Steve. I can't
believe now. I'm never gonna call you again for something
when I know something cool before you, I'm never gonna do. I'm'
say you find it on your own. Fine, you're out
of the will you I don't want to be in
the will. I don't want to be here, Okay, I'm okay,
I'm not I don't want to be in there.

Speaker 4 (06:55):
So did you just get into your car and start
driving up and down the street. Get the speaker on
the hood like you're running for office.

Speaker 1 (07:04):
Vote for Mayor Goldie Wilson. Re elect Mayor Goldie Wilson.

Speaker 4 (07:09):
Back to the future, the Lakers have a start ahead
for the next I mean, we're we're assuming he's going
to sign an extension and be the face of the
Lakers for a decade after Lebron's done, right, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (07:18):
I mean look, I mean you saw that this this
trade still has a lot of shock waves going on
throughout the NBA. And let me just say this now
because I can. The one argument that I feel against
this deal, it is knee jerk, emotional and shallow. Is
you know, so you know, I is the all Dallas
should have gotten way more for Luka Doncic than that, Okay, Okay,

(07:41):
I understand that. Oh it seems oh they should have
gotten way more for Luka Doncic. Okay, Well, let's understand
that this trade didn't happen in a vacuum. Right. The
extension he has due for this summer is over three
hundred and fifty million.

Speaker 4 (07:55):
Dollars because he had re signed with his original teams,
This exact greatness of the NBA will so that everybody
doesn't go to the more famous team automatically.

Speaker 1 (08:03):
Right, So obviously, and Brian Windhors talked about this on
Saturday night that hey, they didn't want to pay him
that contract, right, you don't want to lose Luca for
nothing if you're not gonna sign him, and there are
a lot of reports that he was not going to
re sign with Dallas. Yeah, you get to a point
where do we just keep it going like this when
we know the team is not a title contending team,

(08:25):
or do we get out in front and maybe lose
Luca a little bit earlier and instead of losing him
for nothing, we wind up getting a top ten NBA
player in him and Anthony Davis, right, because that that's
kind of the dilemma that they had. This wasn't keep
Luca or trade him. This was well, they were set
up with three hundred and fifty million dollars he was doing.
Clearly they weren't going to pay him, and and the

(08:46):
whole deal that they should have gotten more like, what
do you want? What's a better deal? If you got
four first round picks, that would have been enough. I
don't think. I don't think. And a lot of NBA
fans understand that NBA first round picks aren't NFL first
round picks. These are not These are not dynasty franchise
caliber players. You get first round picks. Yeah, Yeah, the

(09:07):
Knicks traded away fourth first round picks from a Calibridge
just because odds are they're not going to draft four
guys that put them together. You could be making one
out of mclibridge as well. We'll take this guy's left arm,
these guys' legs, this guy's head. Uh, that's not gonna happen.
The first round picks in the NBA are lottery tickets
unless you have the first overall pick. When a guy
like Wemby or Cooper Flagg is coming out, well, guess what,

(09:28):
it's a it's a it's a it's a it's a
dice roll. How good your guy's gonna be. Sometimes you
draft in the first round for four years from now, Hey,
this guy's really become a player. Now we're three four
years under the league and he's become somebody who's really good.
Well guess what. A lot of teams don't have the
patience for that. So first round picks, yeah, whatever, would
four first round picks make you feel better? Yeah, the Lakers,

(09:48):
that Lakers had them, they would have given them up.
First round picks are nothing, they're they're they're a lottery ticket.
So and on the other side, as you wanted three
almost stars for him. Because that's the other thing, is that, Okay,
if you're trading star player, what do you want to get, Oh,
we want to get a bevy a package of players.
So you want three players who are just okay is
what you want? You want three above average players that
make it sound like they can show up and be stars.

(10:10):
You want rotation guys. And you they got a superstar
in exchange for Luka Doncic and it's the best deal
they could have gotten. While still pulling that deal off, right,
because this is the thing. When you're gonna trade a superstar,
you can't just put them on the trading block because
the deals aren't gonna come through. You're not gonna get
great offers. It's gonna wind up getting really messy for

(10:30):
a long time. This is a deal that had to
keep everybody in the dark until it happens, and then hey,
eighty gets traded, Luca gets traded, and then we react
to it. This is a trade that you can't just
throw a guy out on the block and say, hey,
give us your offers for Luca, because then you're not
gonna get a superstar offers. No one's gonna trade a
superstar to get Luca back. So I don't understand the

(10:52):
trade that people wanted. You weren't gonna get a star
player back because look, look at the top ten twelve
players in the league. Who's gonna say, hey, we'll give
you our guy for lou Nobody. Nobody's in the Spurs
aren't gonna trade Renby for Luca. The Knicks aren't gonna
trade Jalen Brunson for none. But the Lakers would trade
a d for for him because hey, they still have
the star in Lebron. They needed a chance, They needed

(11:12):
to do something different to make it work. So yeah,
this is the trade that happens. So when you understand
that that they weren't going to get a star that
you you want to start back instead of three OK
players and draft picks they had, they got what they
could get for him. They were bent on trading him.
They even called another team and got rebuffed. So what
was Luka Doncic's value really throughout the NBA if they

(11:34):
called somebody else and somebody else already said no, okay,
we got to do this deal. They got a really
good player. Yes, does ad have injury problems, yes, but
guess what Luca's got injury problems too. So now that
you know all that, when you look back at the
trade that the late that, the that the Mavericks made
to get this, they kind of got the best deal
they could get. They got a star player. Yes, they
traded away a guy who's a top five player, but

(11:55):
you wanted to trade him. You weren't gonna sign him.
He was gonna leave anyway. You got a top ten
player back. That's about as good as you're gonna get
in a trade for Luka donci So. I don't know
what people want. I just want something else. What do
you want? You want other teams around the league. You
want Shae Gildes, Alexander you think that's gonna happen. You
want Anthony Yetna, No, none of those deals were gonna happen.

Speaker 4 (12:13):
It ticked off Dallas fans because they just went to
the finals with this guy and they've seen him be
all NBA five years in a row, which reminds me,
by a way of Mookie Betts winning a Gold Glove
five years in a row, and then the Red Sox
training him and then the Dodger signing to a long
term contract, and he might be finishing the career there oddly.
And then as far as draft picks, you just mentioned
that they're a crapshoot in the NBA more than some

(12:35):
other places. I just randomly looked at the NBA draft
of five years ago, which is when Anthony Edwards and
LaMelo Ball were each taken in the top three selected
right after those guys, Patrick Williams, Isaac Ocoro, Onyeka Coongwu,
Killian Hayes, Obi Toppin need I go on, these are
top ten picks in the first round, not just first rounders.

(12:57):
Top ten in the first round.

Speaker 1 (13:00):
Yeah, I mean, I I really I don't understand what
people wanted. I wanted more, Okay, so tell me, tell
me the trade that was gonna happen. Tell me, were
the Sixers gonna trade you Tyrese MAXI for No, they
weren't gonna do that.

Speaker 4 (13:11):
GM's were ticked off that they didn't get a chance
to offer more. It's not just the Dallas fans ticktok Yeah,
by the way, because that would happened. The Knicks did
wind up winning against the Houston Rockets one twenty four
one eighteen tonight. Of course they did because they looked
and Jalens Danson scored forty two points.

Speaker 1 (13:30):
What do you mean, of course? Of course. Look, the
Knicks got their half beats. Sound you almost killed Ogian
Unobi on Saturday, so I'm mad at you for that,
but it's okay.

Speaker 3 (13:38):
And he did not play sprain foot.

Speaker 4 (13:40):
Tonight, Knicks out scored Houston by seventeen in the fourth quarter.

Speaker 1 (13:44):
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(14:06):
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got a star player. Yes, they traded away, but they
were going to trade them away anyway. So this is
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have on Luca and Ad in the super Bowl, and
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Warriors called you today for a trade.

Speaker 6 (16:48):
I didn't answer.

Speaker 1 (16:49):
Oh okay.

Speaker 6 (16:50):
I took a cue from Frostburg having a party of
my own, and I wanted no part of harshing any
of the vibes. I was feeling the moment.

Speaker 7 (17:00):
You didn't really think I was letting Smith in the
my Luca party, did you?

Speaker 3 (17:03):
No?

Speaker 6 (17:04):
No? Are you kidding me? Saturday night? I mean, he
woke me up.

Speaker 7 (17:06):
All the crap you've talked about the Lakers over the years,
Jason Jay, I was calling to give you great and
you're out of the will that I know.

Speaker 1 (17:13):
I don't want to be in the will. I was
giving you great news. I'll never call you. I'll let
you be miserable for an extra four minutes from now
on until big news happens that you would like. I
knew it five minutes before you called it.

Speaker 6 (17:23):
I think if you do get included in a will,
there's a potential that you become one of the people
they can track down for money if later found. But
now you woke me up. I was in my nap
ahead of my Sunday morning show and that completely changed
the show. What's normally Fox Football Sunday was no more.

Speaker 1 (17:42):
Yeah, and I told you don't worry about it. Prepping you
had here's your topic, go back to sleep.

Speaker 6 (17:46):
Well, and then I wanted to talk about Zach Levine.

Speaker 1 (17:48):
Hey, come on, well, we're gonna have more NBA on
the way reacting to a trade that's still we are
shaking from, but joining us. Now I'm the hotline. There's
big NFL news, couple of big stars on the trade block.
One doesn't want to be on it, one does want
to be on it. Nobody better to talk to longtime
NFL insider Odyssey one O five seven the fan in

(18:10):
Baltimore Washington Post. He's on Twitter at Jason Locking for
it is Jason Locking for what's happening? Jay?

Speaker 8 (18:17):
Well, what's going on? Gentlemen?

Speaker 1 (18:18):
Oh right, man, I'll tell you. Well, we're still the
Luca ad T. I don't know that we need the
Super Bowl this week.

Speaker 8 (18:23):
Jay.

Speaker 1 (18:23):
We could postpone it a week because we're going to
talk about this trade for the next four days.

Speaker 8 (18:28):
Do we know when they're playing when when either one,
like I saw ad is suddenly now listed as questionable
tomorrow yeah.

Speaker 6 (18:36):
Luca in theory is Saturday. Yeah yeah, so in theory.

Speaker 1 (18:40):
Yeah, and then we're a month away from them playing
each other.

Speaker 8 (18:44):
Right, you know, we'll say, seems pretty bizarre too. Wouldn't
shop a player of Lucas caliber around the whole league
for a while, or I don't know, make that trade
in the offseason, but we'll say so.

Speaker 1 (18:57):
Is the NFL equivalent to something like this? Two MVP
finalists getting traded mid season for each other? I mean,
is there an NFL equivalent to this?

Speaker 8 (19:06):
I don't. I mean nothing leaks out. I mean, first
of all, like we know the history of NFL trades, right,
the minimal for years TMS just said, oh, it's too
much of a team's part. You can't. You know, trades
don't make sense, and even when they happened, they were
usually in the off season, and it's usually for picks, right,
I mean that other team usually just wants draft pick capital.

(19:28):
So I mean player for player trades are rare. Player
for player trades of any significance of any stature are
exceedingly rare. I mean, when they do happen in this league,
it's my bust draft pick for your bus draft pick. Right.
I really need a corner, You really need a lot
of receiver. I took a lot of receiver in the
first round two years ago. But you can't do a
damn thing for me. You took a corner in the

(19:49):
first round two years ago. He can't do a damn
thing for you. We like your guy coming out of college.
You liked our guy coming out of college. You know
what I mean, Let's here we go. That's that's what
you get me in. So no, I don't. I mean,
I mean, like the Herschel Walker trade was huge, but
that was you know what I mean, that was mostly

(20:11):
draft picks. I mean the Lway trade, he wasn't even
playing in the league yet, you know what I mean.

Speaker 6 (20:17):
And like.

Speaker 8 (20:19):
Chris Hinton, I mean they were players in it. But
I mean, like, come on, uh yeah, no, this is
this is the NFL. I don't think compares. All.

Speaker 1 (20:27):
Right, Well, let's get to some of the big trade rumors.
Say maybe the NFL says, hey, wait a minute, we
want to make some trade headlines. Uh, Cooper Cup tweets
out today that his time with the Rams is coming
to an end. He thought he would always be a Ram,
but the Rams informed him they want to trade him
and they're working with him to find the right destination. Obviously,
look the Rams reload on the fly. Is Cooper Cup

(20:48):
still Cooper Cup? But what do you think of this trade?

Speaker 8 (20:52):
I don't think Cooper Cups still still Cooper Cup. By
the end of Cooper Cup was still Cooper Cup. Did
find a way to make this work. In the second
half of the season, Cooper Cup really didn't look like
Cooper Cup. And we know he's had an injury history
that pregates this, So you know, I think there's a
lot of buyer beware. It's a trick of contract, you know.

(21:14):
I guess in some ways it's a shame. And that
was a hell of a draft pick. He's been a
hell of a player for them. He's done some incredible things,
and he and Matt Stafford were, I mean, as good
a connection as a gets for a while. But yeah,
I think, you know, all things come to an end,
and I don't think they're going to get a ton

(21:35):
in return for him. But I don't think he'll be back.

Speaker 6 (21:42):
Yeah. I love the line used by the other trade
alternative out there. The goal was never to go from
Cleveland to Canton. It's always been to compete and win
a Super Bowl. Miles Garrett says, I'm out. So how
many suitors and what's the hall? Oh?

Speaker 8 (21:59):
I mean suitors wouldn't be a problem at all. It's
just going to be I think the Browns coming to
terms with this. I mean again, they've got a tough
cap situation. You know, he may have to be a
little amenable to some things to help facilitate it. And
though he's just gonna have to come to grips with
the fact that he really can't go to war with

(22:20):
a player of this stat certain win. I don't you know,
throwing money at him. People will say, well, yeah, he
can get the money anywhere, you know, like not, it's
about Cleveland having maybe Confederate money now, you know, it's
about Cleveland's money not really appealing to him the way
other people's money would appeal to him. Because Cleveland has

(22:41):
been good in forever and now Cleveland is retooling and
the owner made some cataclysmic mistakes and he made some
gambles or his way over his skis, and you know
it wasn't just the Sel Watson. It's you know, they're
they're keeping in Joku, they're keeping they're running back, they're
they're paying the have a top flight offensive line, which

(23:02):
it was for a period of time. They're making other
moves on defense to try to, you know, make this
thing work, and it just it hasn't worked. And now
the cap situation is unwieldy, and so they've got to
you know, I think this is it for job, and
they got to take a quarterback up high, but he's
probably not going to be ready to win right away,

(23:22):
and they're going to take your lumps there, and they've
got to gut what's left of that offensive line for
cat purposes, And like who's catching the football? Does the
owner really want to spend or is the owner in
a recalibration thode. Now that's pretty clear the owners in
a recalibration mood. And you know, you're looking at an
individual Mouth Garrett, who's on a first dollar Hall of
Fame path, who has some serious issues with his feet,

(23:45):
who was probably starting to think about his football mortality
in a very more serious way.

Speaker 1 (23:50):
Jason looking for our guests here the Jason Smithscher with
Mike Harmon, live from thetirec dot Com studios. All right now,
since it is Super Bowl week, we'll get your pick
coming up in a second. But really interesting today, you know,
seeing Roger Goodell do his State of the NFL press
conference and everything, and you know, he talked about diversity efforts. Okay, awesome,
and then he was asked about the theory that the
referees are of favoring the chiefs and he said that

(24:12):
is a ridiculous theory. Now I understand he's not going
to say, oh, absolutely, it's going to happen, but boy,
I mean I kind of would like a little bit
at least of Hey, the officials are always under scrutiny something. Yeah, well,
like a little bit of something going. Hey, I kind
of understand what everybody is talking about here.

Speaker 8 (24:29):
Oh jeez, No, I don't think you're going to ever
get him to concede anything remotely like that. And I
though the fact that a question like that might come
up with these guys going for three pet and the
way these games have gone, I guarantee you he was
lawyered up. He would pretty crept for that, and they
don't want to. There was no way he was going
to start ripping on that topic and opining about it

(24:53):
or you know, it was going to be very much
handled the way it was handled, which is that that's enough,
that's preposterous, We're moving on. He's got nothing to gain
by saying anything other than that, and it Yeah, that's
the third rail right there. He's not playing around with that.

Speaker 6 (25:14):
So that said, we got to get you on record
as we begin Super Bowl Week, the Chiefs and the
Eagles are actually going to finally play some football. Mister
lacafora Who's coming out on top? And what kind of
style of the game do you think we get in
this fight?

Speaker 8 (25:30):
You know, I think the Chiefs are coming out on
top no matter how this game is played, whether they
start slow, start fast, get a big lead, have to
play from behind. I just don't butnosticated against them in
situations like this. They you know, seventeen and three in
the playoffs, that's going to get my intention. Three and
one in the Super Bowl is going to get my intention.

(25:53):
I suspected something like twenty forty four, maybe little weird,
twenty nine, twenty seven, something like that. I think it's
a lower scoring first half and maybe things open up
a little bit in the second half. And I do
think the Eagles are gonna have to chase this game
a little bit. And I think the Eagles are going
to have to open it up and throw the ball

(26:15):
around a little more than they're accustomed to. And I
think they'll have some success doing that, but I think
it'll also read a turnover too, and that against the Piavetters.
This superior at just being football genius season in terms
of knowing how to win football games. You know, any
mistake is magnified against these guys. So I just think
two weeks to prepare. I'm running with the team that

(26:37):
excels unlike anybody else in these situations.

Speaker 1 (26:41):
He's on Twitter at Jason locking for That's at Jason
locking for See and check him out on Odyssey one
O five seven of the Fan Washington Post. Jay as always, Buddy,
appreciate it. We'll talk to you next Monday and break
down what could be a three peat for the Chiefs
or Nick Sirianni holding up Saquon Barkley on his shoulders.

Speaker 8 (26:58):
There we go. Enjoy the game.

Speaker 1 (27:00):
Thank you, enjoying fun, Mike and I'll make our picks,
you know, as the week goes on here, I mean
I make Honestly, we may not even get to the
super Bowl. I mean the Luca A D trade, we're
going to be feeling that for the next week. They
should postpone the game for a week. You not have
it next wait another Sunday, have two weeks in between.
That way everybody is really healthy, give it a whole.

Speaker 6 (27:19):
Well, I mean, look, if we can get more people healthy,
would that help the NBA players to get on the court.
I think it might. Can we just delay the schedule
for a week? Would that be okay?

Speaker 1 (27:28):
So wait, so delay the game, delay the super Bowl,
or delay the season. That way Luca and AD get back.

Speaker 6 (27:37):
But m's well, I mean because they consider on and
watch the super Bowl, that's fine. Yeah, yeah, okay, and
then hopefully that helps in their recovery towards suiting up
for their respective teams.

Speaker 1 (27:47):
Okay, all right, I'm with you on either one. I'd
almost like to postpone the NFL just because hey, we
can really go from the super Bowl and then a
week goes by and then it's uh, you know, then
then the combine.

Speaker 6 (27:58):
We have it on Valentine's Day and immediately we're shuffling
off to the combine.

Speaker 1 (28:03):
I like that. And then and then a week after that,
it's free agency.

Speaker 6 (28:06):
Now I'm coming as report in the middle of that,
and we get the convergence of a lot of things.

Speaker 1 (28:12):
No, I really could I could go for Hey, this
is a really big week in back, especially if, like
you know, if Ad plays in the next game and
Luca plays on Saturday, Like, okay, we got you know,
we we have new fresh energy on this story. Keep
everybody in New Orleans for another week. Okay, sorry, but
we'll have another week. Things will go by, and then uh,
then then play the game.

Speaker 6 (28:31):
Good for tourism, yeah, good for expanding your art, your
your palette.

Speaker 1 (28:35):
Yeah yep.

Speaker 6 (28:36):
As long as there's certainly plenty of other things to see.
As long as you can actually shuffle people off a
bourbon street to get a good sense of the rich history,
uh and the rest of what New Orleans has to offer,
then everything everybody wins.

Speaker 1 (28:48):
No, I'm kind of digging that. I'm gonna I'm gonna
text Roger Goodell about that about moving the Super Bowl.

Speaker 6 (28:52):
There you go, ask him about the referees again.

Speaker 1 (28:56):
He'll love that one.

Speaker 6 (28:58):
Oh and Roger by the way, Hell.

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(29:23):
and free shipping. Time out to find out what's trending
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in charge of a lot of things, and boy he
is big on discipline. It's Steve Desager.

Speaker 3 (29:37):
Oh, I thought it was the fact that I make
forty million dollars every year.

Speaker 6 (29:40):
Oh I didn't know that.

Speaker 1 (29:41):
Why don't you get paid a million dollars per update?
Good one.

Speaker 3 (29:46):
I don't have a comeback to that. It's just it's
so preposterous.

Speaker 1 (29:49):
There is no joke.

Speaker 3 (29:50):
That is the joke.

Speaker 1 (29:51):
Okay.

Speaker 4 (29:51):
I thought if you wanted to get a reaction out
of Roger Goodell at the press conference with the media tonight.
You should have called in and just said, yeah, Roger,
this is Jim Trotter from I think that's how that
would have gone, by the way. Anthony Davis, now at Dallas,
is out Tuesdays, missed a week with an abdominal strain.
The Lakers will introduce Luka Doncich at a media conference
on Tuesday morning. The league's trade deadline is Thursday. De

(30:14):
Aaron Fox will wear at number four with his new team,
the Spurs, which apparently was his wife's number at Texas Tech.

Speaker 3 (30:20):
She's a San Antonio native.

Speaker 4 (30:21):
Joel Embiid, with the bad knee, was upgraded to questionable
for Philadelphia's game tomorrow, and he did practice today. Embiid's
been out for a month. The Sixers Paul George with
a finger injury. Pressed gotta get healthy by the trade
deadlines coming up. See if he's got to get helpy.
We've got to rut on the court now for crying
out loud. Guys can actually get moved at this trade deadline.
The players of the week are Lebron James in the West,

(30:42):
Donovan Mitchell in the East. New York beat Houston tonight
in a comeback one twenty four one eighteen. Nixt scored
forty six points in the fourth quarter. Jalen Bronson went
forty two. The Rockets all star center alper And Chengun
was out again with a Bruce CAF He's missed three
straight games.

Speaker 3 (30:58):
Men Thompson a triple double in the law. Atlanta ended
an eight.

Speaker 4 (31:01):
Game losing streak, winning a tight win at Detroit one
thirty two to one thirty Trey Young thirty four points,
including the game winner. Washington had lost sixteen in a
row until a win over the weekend. Wizards won again
tonight at Charlotte, won twenty four to one. Fourteen victories
for Sacramento at Oklahoma City, and currently it's the Grizzlies
in the fourth leading the Spurs one oh six to ninety.

(31:24):
The Utah Jazz mid third quarter are ahead of Indiana
seventy six sixty eight. Utah with a record of eleven
and thirty six. To the NFL News, the Rams informed
wide receiver Cooper Cup they will be trying to trade him.
Cup was due to get a roster bonus of seven
point five million dollars in March. Brown's all Pro defensive
end Miles Garrett requested a trade, saying he wants to

(31:45):
win a Super Bowl.

Speaker 3 (31:46):
He's been in Cleveland for eight years.

Speaker 4 (31:48):
The Ravens officially gave offensive coordinator Todd Monkin an extension.
The Texans new OC is Nick Kayley from the Rams.
He was a New England assistant. Before that, Jacksonville hired
Hall of Famer Tony Basselia's president of football operations. Washington's
owner says the team's nickname will remain Commanders and one
game involving ranked teams in men's college basketball at Kansas

(32:10):
Jayhawks ahead of Iowa State fifty to thirty one, with
ten minutes to go back to you.

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It's been about thirty six hours since the Luca ad trade,
and already the rest of the NBA is reacting smartly,
panic a little bit of both. Two big stories on
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Speaker 2 (32:57):
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Speaker 6 (33:17):
This is more than a game.

Speaker 1 (33:19):
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videos on YouTube. The Luka Dancic Anthony Davis trade is

(33:44):
about thirty six hours old, and already that is set
things going in the NBA. Other teams trying to answer saying, well,
trade went down, We got to have to make trades,
and there's one trade that's already happened since that I love,
and there's one team trying to make a trade that's
just embarrassing. And then there's only one trade that matters. True, true,
we will have Hey, I'll give you, I'll give you

(34:04):
what to be what to be concerned about with Luca
Dodgson's coming up in about fifteen minutes.

Speaker 6 (34:10):
But uh, the.

Speaker 1 (34:11):
Spurs make the trade, you know, in the in the
after if the in the after bird of the Luca
ad trade. They get de Aaron Fox from the Kings,
a three team trade in which the Spurs didn't have
to give up anybody didn't have to give up Castle Dead.
It was I was, I was like, okay, so trades
can be made if you want a high priced star
and you don't have to give something up. It's hey,

(34:32):
it's the Kings. What are we gonna do? I told
you this when the when the rumor first came out.
By the end of this year or middle of next year,
the Spurs are gonna be one of the top three
teams in the West. Maybe even better, maybe they challenge
for the regular season crown next year, because really they
talked about it today. Who are you gonna stop de
Aaron Fox and Wemby. That's a pretty big do maybe

(34:54):
a little bit less of Wemby around the arc, which
is probably okay, but I mean you're talking about a
guard and a big that can do everything. This is
a devastating combination in San Antonio.

Speaker 6 (35:05):
Oh, it's a beauty of being able to make a
trade and saying, look, the only place I want to
go is there. Figure it out, which is why, you know,
in the larger context, why I think the other thing
happened under cover of night. But we'll get back into
that as we continue the show. For this, I mean,
Daron Fox has been a fantastic guy operating in anonymity

(35:27):
for years. Every once in a while, you know, you'd
see him on a list like don't forget that guy's
pretty good. And obviously because we're on the West Coast,
we get some of those great games, you know, when
they're matched up against the Blazers and stuff. But now
you go and a guy in Victor women Yama that
you know the superlatives have run out in his second season,
and you add another piece without getting rid of Castle,

(35:51):
without having to get rid of Keldon Johnson without vassal.
I mean, you're able to keep your component parts. And
this is the key the curiosity of how these games
of poker are being played and how much you're able
to sell on the idea of well, I mean, look,
the lottery, the draft picks aren't gonna be any good.
Believe us, believe us. Wait, you guys are gonna be

(36:12):
a really good team. Ah, that's all right. You know,
you'll you'll find the diamond in the rough down there
in the twenties somehow, some way. That's the thing that's
always funny to me when these trades happen. It's like, yeah,
we're gonna give you all these draft picks, Like, but
won't they actually be good? So aren't these all actually
really diminished properties that you have to hit one hundred percent,

(36:34):
not to just one hundred percent? You know, go to
the superlative of you've got to find the guy that, somehow,
because of questions about his upbringing, his history, his academic prowess,
how he doesn't read a whiteboard properly, whatever the case is,
that suddenly they become a guy in the twenties that
you're gonna figure out that's what always is always just

(36:55):
most fun when we see, yeah, they got all these
first round picks, like, who cares, give me a guy
that can actually step between the white lines? Uh? And
the Spurs won in a big way.

Speaker 1 (37:05):
I mean really, it's gonna Yeah, there'll be a top
four NBA team and within a year they'll be They
kept all their ten was an insanely great trade. Like
it shows you trades like this can be that. You
don't have to sit back and say, oh, it's too daunting.
Teams are gonna want to, you know, ransom us for something. No,
you can make a trade. You really can make a
trade and get a player like that and not have
to give up all kinds of stuff. Now this gets

(37:27):
us to the Golden State Warriors, because I loved the
Shams report earlier today that according to Shams and sources
around the league, the Warriors have called every single team
in the NBA about their star player. And I said,
they've called everybody about hey, well, because they are bent
on getting another star player to come play alongside Steph Curry.

Speaker 6 (37:49):
Right.

Speaker 1 (37:49):
And when when I saw this, I just laughed. I said,
how how how close they are now to being a
team that's just another team in the NBA. Like they
had the fast Lane for a decade, and when they
had the Splash Brothers and Draymond and KD it was
it was Camelot, man, it was incredible. But now, hey,
Bob Myers leaves, Mike Dunn, Leavy Junior is really struggling,

(38:13):
And so now you're the point where we're just calling
teams for stars. Do you have a plan? No, there's
no plan. We will take any star anybody. Yeah, well,
how's it gonna is it gonna fit with?

Speaker 6 (38:22):
What do you have? The team?

Speaker 1 (38:23):
Doesn't matter, It doesn't matter. We just need a start.
We need to keep stuff happening to try to keep
this going. We need a start. We'll take anybody. Oh really,
but you do would you rather have a big would?
I don't care. Whatever star we can get, we're gonna get.

Speaker 6 (38:33):
Like, what kind of plan is this?

Speaker 1 (38:35):
Like really, what kind of plan is this to say
we just want a star player? But but but who
do you want?

Speaker 6 (38:40):
It doesn't matter.

Speaker 1 (38:41):
We're calling everybody, and to all the other twenty nine
teams in the NBA are all getting phone called. There's
not that many stars. But the other twelve teams in
the NBA fifteen teams are getting phone calls about their stars.
Would you trade this guy? It's like in fantasy, like
me saying, Okay, my team is not playing very well.
I need another I need another big player on my team.
Doesn't matter if it's a wide receiver, running back, quarterback.

(39:02):
I gotta make a trade. I gotta gonna get somebody big.
So I'm gonna just canvas the league to see who
could trade be somebody really really good. Like this works
in fantasy, in the NBA, you can't just call it.
Say you give me one of your stars. I don't
care which one.

Speaker 6 (39:16):
I got, no problem with it. Right, you might find
the Sacramento Kings might pick up the phone, and you
might get another star that randomly falls into your hands.
Wait you want? You want what? Yeah? Roll off a
couple more of those second round picks for him. They
seem to like those you never know right he as
you you canvass the room, the odds are that you're
going to find I don't know, go back to our

(39:38):
old familiar movie reference of draft day. You might find
that young Jacksonville Jaguars GM on the other end of
the line.

Speaker 1 (39:48):
Yeah, but who knows if they have something that works.
What if the star is a shooting guard? Right like
like well like like we would Tray Young play well
with Steph Curry. Boy, that's gonna be tough. That's gonna
be two guys that.

Speaker 6 (39:58):
They have got, gonna be entertaining and they kill each
other for the basketball.

Speaker 1 (40:01):
They'll be daring each other across the three point line.
I dare you across the three point line.

Speaker 6 (40:05):
But literally, if you're done, Levy at this point, you're like,
all right, here's my roster. I gotta shake something up
because we need to at least make it more palatable
because they've been just a team for a while. Now
that just happens to have a star. This is the
sad run of the circus coming through the town one
more time with the outgoing clown that he's about set

(40:26):
for retirement. Here, not that I want to call Steph
Curry a clown, but you get my point that it's done.
It's the last run through one more time. But take
your favorite concert. Hey, this, I promise this is the
retirement tour. That's what Stephan Company have been for a while.

Speaker 1 (40:42):
Yeah, but wouldn't you have this plan in place before
they call the week before they're.

Speaker 6 (40:47):
Not paying it calls no, it's a complete script.

Speaker 1 (40:52):
We got more NBA on the way, a reason to
be incredibly optimistic and incredibly nervous. If you're the Lakers
getting a look at that's next time watch it? And
I work in sports.

Speaker 6 (41:04):
What do you do?

Speaker 1 (41:04):
And I and I say it And sometimes people are
really interested in what I have and they ask me
questions sometimes like oh, that sounds great, andws people go, oh,
that's cool, and I know you know they're not a
sports fan, and I can tell sometimes they get to
look like it's sports, like oh, that person likes sports,
like no, no sports, yes, yes, okay, yeah.

Speaker 6 (41:24):
That means I'm more likely to get back to the
giant trays of charcuterie and be left alone because it'll
circulate throughout that party. I've been part of these for
a long long time, so it's pretty good to be
the sports guy. You'd have the one person that really
just wanted to pick your brain about anything and everything
related to their favorite team in the city, and then
everybody else you are a pariah. And then someone would

(41:47):
get around that you may have an you know, advanced degree,
and it's like suddenly you're that much more interesting. Oh yeah,
you like sports and you like that. Well, let's got
shut up. I'm eating my cheese. I'll get out of here.
I'll tell you.

Speaker 1 (41:59):
It's every parties when I talk about how much I read, Oh,
you read, yes, really well, cause I do sports. I
can't read. Yes, I I read books all the time. Oh,
by the way, you want a great book recommendation, you
want a phenomenal book recommendation apocalypse. No, And you know me,
I'm not a big sports book guy. Like, it's got

(42:19):
to be really really good for me to read it.
The Boys of Riverside it just came out about a
month and a half ago. It's one of Amazon's best
books of the year. I read it. It's about a
death football team in Riverside, entirely deaf school, deaf football
team eight man football, and their rise into the playoffs
to become a big power over the over a two
year period. It is a phenomenal book. It's about football,

(42:42):
like Friday Night Lights was about football, where it could
have been about anything, but the setting was football. Like
this story about the about this deaf football team, like
it had so many great things about it. It could
have been about anything. It could have been about a
pottery class. It could have been about a track team,
it could have been about a people. It could have
been about actors. But instead it you know, it happens

(43:03):
to be about football. It is a phenomenal book. It's
a book you'll remember the rest of your life. You'll
remember this book the rest of your life. I promise you.

Speaker 6 (43:09):
Out there you go, it's good Reads.

Speaker 1 (43:12):
Now Smith's there we go. Hey, yeah, I like to read.
Oh but that's a sports book. Yes, Oh okay, I'm
gonna go talk about another book that's not sports. Uh.

Speaker 6 (43:21):
The everything could be a sports book, just like every
movie can be a Halloween, Christmas, or Valentine's Day, depending
on how you want to frame it.

Speaker 1 (43:30):
I read Jurassic Park. At the end, Sam Neil's character
was one Soto. Yeah, okay, so uh the Laker trade
for Luka Doncic. There is incredible reason to be optimistic
and excited about this. Obviously, there's also a bit of
a warning. Yes there is, Okay, yes there is. Let

(43:51):
me tell you. We'll do the warning first, then we'll
get to excitement. How about's the only angle warning warning
first and the excited. No, there's two angles to it,
and you know what it's got to do. It's it's
got to do with thrifting. Okay, now I told you
you know, I'm a big thrifter. I love taking my daughter,
my daughter's friends thrifting. It's it's so much fun for
us to do. I've always enjoyed the idea of shopping
and getting a bargain when I can. You know, now

(44:13):
I like to thrift because you know, obviously is it
cheaper than buying new. Yeah, but it's also a way
to you know, do my little part to save the environment,
to keep recycled clothes going and stuff, and it's just
a fun thing that I like to do. Now think
about the Luka donsch Ad Trade as as going thrifting.
Right when you go, when I go and genuine people go,
you want to look for something that's designer, that is

(44:36):
really cool, that say, oh my god, this is a
ninety dollars item and I'm getting it for seven dollars,
Like that's like the greatest, that's like the holy ground, Like,
oh my, this is a this is a Ralph Lauren hoodie.
This is like ninety five dollars when new, and now
it's seven dollars and you look at it and it
looks good, the stitching looks good, there's no big stains
on it. Like, wow, I'm getting and you're feeling great, right,

(44:57):
And then you know, you get it home and you
put on the hoodie and maybe it's great, right, Maybe
it's awesome. Maybe it's it's everything you want it would be,
it fits you ask me, Oh my god, it's my
new favorite piece of clothing. I'm gonna tell people that
I got this ninety dollars hoodie for seven dollars. They're
gonna go, wow, oh I love it, love it, love it,
you could tell, right, Oh, that's true. And my dad's
a big thrifter too. He loves her. My dad loves

(45:20):
My dad is seventy seven, and he loves buying the
brightest clothes you could imagine, like you like where the
the the ultra bright orange and greens. I'm like, Dad,
what are you doing?

Speaker 6 (45:29):
Awesome?

Speaker 8 (45:30):
Dad, seventy seven?

Speaker 6 (45:32):
Good for him.

Speaker 1 (45:32):
I can see you through the fog, Dad, what do.

Speaker 6 (45:34):
You do it? Well, that's the idea if he's out
for one of his night plows.

Speaker 1 (45:39):
But sometimes when you get that thrift, you get that
great designer shirt hoodie Home and it's, oh, it's a
little bit tight under the arms. Boy, you know, it's
not quite as soft as I thought. The the stitching
and the on the letters are kind of rubbing a
little bit, and it's it's overall, it's not quite what
I thought it was gonna be. Maybe the gatherers out

(46:00):
of one of the sleeves a little bit, and you're like, huh, well,
you know, I did spend seven dollars on it, but boy,
I thought this was gonna be something that was better. Right.
Think about that when you think about the trade ad
for Luca, right, because think about this. If you're the Lakers, yes,
you got a player who is twenty six years old,
the top five player in the game. But as I

(46:21):
said this on Saturday when I put out a video
on social media, nobody knows Luka Doncich better than the Mavericks. Nobody.
He's been there for seven years, Nobody knows him better.
And they were okay with trading him, knowing full well
they were gonna get crushed because you're trading Luca. Who's

(46:43):
gonna trade Luca? I don't understand they knew what was
going to happen, but they knew him the best and
they still wanted to trade him away. Now maybe they
really don't know what they're doing, and Mark Cuban not
running things is gonna be a big deal. He says,
I wasn't involved in the trade. He had said before. Oh,
if I have the choose between trading Luca or getting divorced,
I call my lawyer to get the the you know,

(47:04):
the the divorce papers ready. But Luca might come in
and be amazing and could be the guy and the
Lakers go from Lebron to the Luca era. It's and
it's incredible, But they could also be getting a guy that, hey,
the Mavericks couldn't get him to lose weight. For the
last few years. He's missing a lot of games. Is
he really going to be that guy?

Speaker 7 (47:24):
Is he?

Speaker 1 (47:24):
Are you getting someone that's going to kind of give
you what he gives you? And as he gets older,
he starts missing more and more games because he's done
his own thing since he came into the NBA. And
while it works while you're young and you can ignore
the diet a little bit, and you can ignore being
in shape, when you get to be twenty six, twenty seven,
get to thirty, it becomes a thing, and maybe it's not.

(47:45):
Maybe he's not as great as you think he's gonna be.
I mean, he's going to be good, obviously, because it's
Luca Lucas. Still the floor is really low. But bringing
him in and thinking that he's going to make all
your problems go away. Remember, there's a reason why the
Mavericks traded him. There's a reason why they called other
teams because they're done. The reason why why I called
other teams. Uh, there's a reason why. And and there's

(48:07):
something that that you know with with Luca that we
haven't heard yet. But for the Mavericks to say we're
gonna move on from him, that's a thing, right. I
know Luca's dad is upset, and we'll get to that
part of it later on in the show. But right now,
the Mavericks are doing the right They're saying nice things
about Luca. Hey, defense wins championships, We need to go
get a d blah blah blah blah blah. They're being

(48:27):
nice on the way out. They're not trying to rip him.
And I give him a lot of credit for this too,
because they're not trying to sit back and say, Okay,
now we're just gonna give potshots at him because we're
sick of everybody telling us we're stupid, so we're gonna
tell you what we've dealt with with Luca for the
last few years. They're not doing that. So just understand,
when when the team that knows an absolute superstar the
best is okay with trading him, they know something we don't.

(48:51):
Maybe maybe it's his condition, maybe it's never gonna get
him to be conditioning. Maybe they knew when they had
him he was never gonna get in shape for them.
Maybe maybe they're just done and maybe he'll do it
for the Lakers. Maybe he won't. But understand there is
a risk involved, and that's when trades like this happen.
You are hoping that it works out. So, yes, it's
a great trade for the Lakers, but understand it might

(49:11):
not be what you think, because again, seven years twenty
six year old superstar, that's na be a red flag
that the Mavericks who just went to the Finals with
him a year ago are ready to move on from him.

Speaker 6 (49:22):
Well, and that's when we can't wait to see how
quickly in this timetable that more hit pieces other than
he likes to have a beer and eat well comes
to light.

Speaker 1 (49:32):
I mean they should have been taking his beer away
going to the finals, like.

Speaker 6 (49:35):
Well, you know, ever since we talked about it, you know,
Michael Finley taking away his beer and emasculating him in
the moment when he's hanging out with him. No, it doesn't.

Speaker 1 (49:42):
Doesn't that make sense? Now, if they can't get him
to be in shape, then we're going to take a
beer from him. Like I can't believe they did it.
It was ridiculously stupid, but at least that kind of
plays into oh, they can't get him to stay in shape.
It's like, dude, don't drink beer. We got the NBA
Finals coming up, the.

Speaker 6 (49:57):
Kind it would have been better if you know, you
could tell me that that was to be beer fifteen. Uh,
and now you're you're worried about some that habits God,
But I mean, have a beer with the dead, celebrate
the victory, and move on, right. I mean, if then
he's suddenly rolling around like Hasselhoff with the cheeseburger, then

(50:19):
we got we got to talk, right. So we look
at the Harrison Palinka relationship. A lot of this when
we talk about doing this undercover of darkness. But yeah,
with Luca, you know reports of you know, friends that
are around habits and waiting for the body to collapse.
As I guess, really where it all comes back, no

(50:41):
matter what you may believe and what's out there in
the periphery right now, unless that gets fleshed, ou'll go
back to uh Windhorse, who never says anything critical about anybody.
Remember he unleashed whatever he got from a Mavericks executive.
And you can't tell me otherwise about the unacceptable end
to last year I had out of shape and all

(51:02):
of these things that this was a deplorable and unconscionable
effort or lack thereof that Luca put out in those
waning minutes. We had some fun with it at the time,
because you know, it's a very small community there, including Wait,
who's who's the agency for the guy that broke the

(51:24):
news on Saturday? Wait who does he work with? Oh yeah,
I'll wait for your answer. All of that had to say, yeah,
there might be something more nefarious here. There could just
be a all right, we're gonna go in a different process.
Because let me tell you, if you were doing a
drinking game with Harrison, you'd and his pressure, you'd need
someone to take your beers away. Because the amount of

(51:47):
time that defense wins championship was uttered. I don't think
I think he was trying to convince himself as he
was doing his presser with that that he kept circling
back and ad Obviously both ends of the court went available. Fantastic.
You've got a roster that's pretty good. He won't have
to play center. One thing that was a constant source

(52:08):
of needling and complaints here in la of I don't
want to play there. Well, they've got centers, so you
don't have to worry about that. And so at least
through the trade deadline at the moment you look like
you're okay. But all of that, yeah, maybe maybe there's
another shoe to drop, and it's a long term thing.
And you just decided that he was not going to

(52:29):
be the three hundred and fifty million dollars player. It
would remind you, you know, he has been first team
All NBA year after year. He has played sixty plus games,
right playing forty minutes, the high usage rate, all of
those fun advanced metrics that we get to with the

(52:49):
ball going through his hands. By the way, I just
I have to bring this up because it's my favorite
graphic of the weekend. The fact that you had poor
Zingis and Brunson and Luca and they're all gone, tell
me you're running an organization.

Speaker 1 (53:04):
Well yeah, well that Mark Cuban could at least say, hey,
this wasn't I didn't make this trade.

Speaker 6 (53:09):
I didn't have all of those.

Speaker 1 (53:10):
Don't get mad at me.

Speaker 7 (53:11):
I remember I told you the second Michael Finley took
his beer he would be a Laker within five years.

Speaker 6 (53:18):
Well, to be fair, I think you have photo shopped,
at least in your mind every guy that's ever sniffed
an all starved vote what appearance this one that matters?
But this is the one that came to fruition.

Speaker 1 (53:32):
Are the Lakers back? Oh you better bet they're bleeping back?
Oh he was.

Speaker 6 (53:36):
He was already. They were back on Saturday night, remember,
because there was a game at the Garden that did
that didn't count.

Speaker 1 (53:42):
The Knicks already played again and they beat the Rockets,
who were better than the Lakers. The Garden party, Mike
was a great three party for the Luca party. I
think the Knicks just took it easy on they knew
a big trade was coming the next took it easy.
If that's what makes you sleep at night, that's fine,
that's fine. You guys shot sixty percent from the floor.
Was a great game because we played trash. Yeah, because
oh so just you would still.

Speaker 6 (54:00):
Well, I mean this goes back to you guys might
rosing down on three point shooting Smith, something you and
I have talked about on this show a lot.

Speaker 7 (54:08):
Because well, jameson the Lakers got something you'll never know
the feeling of getting what's that? A generational player?

Speaker 1 (54:15):
We have Jalen Brunson's a generational player.

Speaker 8 (54:18):
He is not.

Speaker 1 (54:19):
We have two of the five starters in the Eastern Conference, all.

Speaker 7 (54:22):
Starts like the five hundred best player ever, you would
still trade, will go on a trade.

Speaker 1 (54:27):
Player of all times. You would still trade all of
are your roster for all of the Knicks roster. You
can have ad look out faster you love a d
look out faster you can't.

Speaker 6 (54:39):
He learned by watching you, Okay, he learned by watching you.
The way you cut guys loose from your professional and
collegiate sports life is is really something amazing. You were
probably a really good breaker upper when you had the
upper hand. Yeah, I'm done with you. I washed my
hands with you.

Speaker 1 (54:58):
I didn't have the upper hand that often, but yeah
I did. I threw that hammer death.

Speaker 6 (55:01):
I don't know you anymore. New phone, who dis
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