Best of The Jason Smith Show with Mike Harmon

Jason and Mike open this "Best Of" edition of the show reacting to the news that the Jets have officially informed Aaron Rodgers that they'll be moving in another direction at quarterback. Jason looks back on the Rodgers era, grateful for two offseasons of immeasurable hype. Later, the guys explain why the biggest star in basketball right now is someone you might not expect... NBA insider Ric Bucher joins the show to review the early returns on the Luka trade, talk about the future outlook on the Warriors, Jokic's MVP chances, and more! Plus, reacting to the news that the Steelers reached out to the Jaguars to inquire about trading for Trevor Lawrence.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 1 (00:30):
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(00:53):
The Four Nations sounds like like, hey, is that a
new game of Throne show?

Speaker 3 (00:57):
No?

Speaker 4 (00:57):
No, No. The NHL could be.

Speaker 1 (01:00):
Taking an eight week break to play this Four Nations
round robin tournament. Yea, USA playing their first game against
Finland going to the third period up two to one.

Speaker 4 (01:09):
Yo.

Speaker 1 (01:09):
Look, you and I are watching the game before we
come on the air and look, you obviously look there's
a big game tonight that everybody is watching here to
whatever it's country against country, everybody gets in on it.
And I gotta say the difference between the two teams
so far, what I've been saying the whole time, you
have to shoot the puck. You actually when you when
you when you shoot the in situations like this, when
you haven't played together, and and and you don't know

(01:32):
your teammate as well as you think you do because
you don't know where he's going to be. It's not
a line mate you play with the whole time. You
have to shoot. And I've watched Finland come down on
odd man breaks and try to thread the needle for
a pass where a shot from ten feet out might
have was probably the best play.

Speaker 4 (01:49):
And then I watch the United.

Speaker 1 (01:50):
States just throw the puck on net, throw the puck
on net, they get a deflection in two to one
United States going to the third period. When you throw
the puck at the net, good things happen.

Speaker 4 (01:58):
Well, you go to your soccer team. Me, you know,
as long as my daughter's been playing competitively, and just
the old uh sitting in the three hundred levels at
the old Chicago Stadium and trying not to get hit
by a rat streaking past your feet. Was hey, just
shoot the damn puck, put it on net. Good things happen,

(02:21):
create some chaos, create some some unsettled moments for the netminder.
A be it soccer, be it hockey. And it's like
if they get to settle in easy extra passes, what
do we talking about in football all the time? What
do you want to twelve play drive? Yet it's great,
it's demoralizing, but what's more likely to happen a holding penalty,
a fall start, something that's going to derail you here

(02:43):
extra pass same way, the timing's got to be pinpoint,
and you know the puck has to stay flat, which
it does not do all the time. As as a results,
you see we go to the third to to one lead.
That the shot that that gave the US the lead,
Like how it found the back of the net, don't know,
all counts just the same.

Speaker 1 (03:04):
Now, look, the thing is is that it's you know, look,
when you have when you have two on ones, you
have break ins.

Speaker 4 (03:11):
I get it.

Speaker 1 (03:11):
But when when you when you're not as familiar with
your teammates. And that's the whole point, is not that, hey,
you should never try to make the extra pass. It's uh, well,
Lebron would tell you it's always the right movie. Yeah,
but Lebron Bron would say that playing with his teammates
all year long like this is this is a glorified
all star thing, right. Obviously the stake shuttle hired. It's
kind of like a little mini Olympics going on. But
you know, when you don't know where your teammate's gonna be,

(03:33):
when they they don't know, how do you you know,
if it's two on one, how do you like to do?
Are you gonna are you gonna throw it over the stick?
Are you gonna try to do this?

Speaker 4 (03:39):
How is it?

Speaker 1 (03:39):
You just need a little bit of that camaraderie, a
little bit of that chemistry that you haven't looking for
playing hockey my whole life.

Speaker 4 (03:45):
I could tell I.

Speaker 1 (03:45):
Already know when when I'm like, all right, well this
is going on here, this is going on here, I
can tell you know.

Speaker 4 (03:50):
Finland's gonna they're gonna pass.

Speaker 1 (03:51):
They're gonna pass, and it's gonna be a real easy,
real easy break up here for the United States, whereas
the United States is just let's just get it on net.

Speaker 4 (03:58):
Right. That means you kind of have to do that,
and you can the big bounce if you if they'd
let you start, would you have one state?

Speaker 3 (04:03):
Oh? Yeah? No.

Speaker 1 (04:04):
You know what, there's very few sports regrets I have
in my life because I know my body, the way
I was built. I wasn't really going to be great
at football baseball.

Speaker 4 (04:16):
I maxed out.

Speaker 1 (04:17):
I got a long torso and short legs, so I
knew I was never going to be fast, and I
wasn't very tall, so I mean I top out at
the hulking five nine creatures you see.

Speaker 4 (04:25):
But would you say, for what sum? Yeah? So I knew.

Speaker 1 (04:29):
But hockey was my best sport, and I've told you
for it's because I could see the play like I
would not that I'm Gretzky, but I could see the play.
I knew where, I knew where the puck was going
to be, and that was my thing.

Speaker 4 (04:40):
That was the greatest, littlest side that you like, that
little give yourself half fast jackets that got drafted by
some no nothing, but that was my thing.

Speaker 1 (04:55):
That was and that was my thing in baseball and
softball too, because I knew when a ball was hit,
where the runner was going to, where the ball should
go to on the relay, where it was going to
end up in the field.

Speaker 4 (05:04):
I just knew.

Speaker 1 (05:05):
I could just tell where it was at. And hockey,
I knew where the puck was gonna be. Gretzky said that,
I'm like, yeah, because I didn't have a great slap shot.
I wasn't particularly overly fast, but I knew the angles.
I knew how I could turn a defenseman. I knew
if I could do it, I knew if I couldn't
do it, I just did. That was my thing. I
wish I had started skating at a young age, like
in Canada when when the kids are born, it's like,

(05:25):
here's your first pair of skates. He's eight hours old. Yeah,
I gotta get him in the mold ready to go out.
I really I would go back and really put on
and skate when I was little, and boy, I'd like
to see the kind of hockey player I would have been.

Speaker 4 (05:36):
Yeah, we had no ice rinks here to us, my
brothers and I obviously the way we're built, fire plugs
and just add a little bit different interval. You were
plumber's and fireman. Hear that JJ Reddick.

Speaker 1 (05:47):
Plumber's environment.

Speaker 4 (05:48):
See I didn't. That was feeling. We're fearding my son
of a plumber shirt. We're the Dusty Rhodes. He's coming.
The feud with JJ Reddick continues. So that's on the
way out of a Chicago police officer. But we also
didn't have played against sports, so trying to outfit three
of us was not gonna help because hockey is not
it's not cheap, and there was no ice anywhere near us,

(06:10):
so that would have been all right, how are we
getting there? Like it was a whole pain in the ass. Instead,
it was, hey, you can ride your bike down to
the park, go play some baseball and some get on,
get on the court, go play some football. That's it.
You get, you get your three sports and you'll have
to like it. Exit out about a Fresco exit swollen dome.
Jason Smith, My Carmon.

Speaker 1 (06:27):
So again the United States up to over Finland two
to one, going to the third period again, you know,
I want the United States to win, but boy, if
we can get a ten minute three on three overtime period,
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 4 (06:38):
Yeah, come on, I mean I do like the team
Swomy jerseys. Though.

Speaker 1 (06:41):
Yeah, we were talking a little bit about yeah, but
I read no, I'm thinking, I really I want that
ten minute three on three overtime. I want that up
and back for the entire time, and I want that
for ten minutes.

Speaker 4 (06:52):
You just so get this so great May we got
some NBA action and last before we get to the
All Star weekend, Steve Kerr complaining, Yeah, the Mavericks are
somehow playing again. Boy, they're playing a lot of games
since that trade all the way through.

Speaker 1 (07:08):
But it fixed the schedule, don't you know. Don't you
see how the Lakers or Mavericks are playing every every day.
The ad injury kind of hurt them a bit, but
you know, see, but you saw what Kyrie Irving did
yesterday not playing today. By the way, I went to
the schedule and I saw the schedule looked like for
the Lakers and Mavericks. It turns out they added twenty
games to these rest of the way. Yeah, you gotta see,

(07:30):
the Lakers are gonna have like ninety eight games.

Speaker 4 (07:32):
This is that just to add more Cardio So Luca's
in shape for I don't think Luca would have accepted
the t we gotta play more games. I can't do it. No,
I can't do it. He's out with a sore ankle
like Lebron was for that Saturday game.

Speaker 1 (07:46):
Right, but big news in the NFL today. We knew
this was coming. The New York Jets have said goodbye
to Aaron Rodgers. Alex Tyser, do you have some sad
Aaron Rodgers?

Speaker 4 (07:58):
Goodbye? Music? You got some? Get some? I mean I
have one good clip. We could play. Whoa whoa, whoa,
whoa whoa. He busted out the musquet. It was a
special occasion. You said, music, and you're here. You're itchy
trigger finger over there. That's a music man music. Wow.

Speaker 1 (08:15):
He hasn't been cut yet. The decision has not been made.
The Jets don't know if they're going to designate him
a post June first cut. Are they going to spread
out the dead cap money over two years? We had
showed forty nine million dollars. Yeah that the Jets have said,
we'd rather move on than pay you that forty nine
million dollars.

Speaker 4 (08:32):
Really making the Packers look even smarter all this, but yeah,
go ahead, j right though, right right about what?

Speaker 1 (08:38):
He played four downs the first season they had a
better score than him playing the whole season.

Speaker 4 (08:43):
We mean a better score, the better record, better record,
better score. I mean Kobe did better. You know, what
are you talking about, trying to accentuate that I said
something wrong.

Speaker 1 (08:53):
I don't think you need to worry about that. You
don't need to worry about that. Who's that tight end
for the Patriots for a long time? Now he's on
Kofski Gronkovski, right, Okay, I keep forgetting his name.

Speaker 4 (09:00):
Thanks. His chip concerto is one of my favorites.

Speaker 1 (09:03):
Cops, the Gronkovsky Concerto, super Bowl Licks, super Bowl lix.
The Jets have just been taking it in the teeth today, right,
And I get it because the Rogers experiment two years
the Jets had a better record without him than they
did with him. I think that's what you're kind of
looking pretty well down the stretch. But as soon as

(09:23):
Jay Glazer hit the uh, the edge of the the
balcony and Bourbon Street, it was all over.

Speaker 4 (09:30):
To tell us all about it.

Speaker 1 (09:31):
But I want to say this because this is a
big deal, and it's also you know, tells you that,
you know, look where the Jets are. The calendar is
twelve months long. Okay, calendar is twelve months long. We
go January to December. Wherever you want.

Speaker 4 (09:45):
Sho, we have had a spoiler alert breaking news the January.
The calendar goes January to December.

Speaker 2 (09:51):
Okay.

Speaker 4 (09:51):
If you want to go solstice to solstice and go,
it's okay to start a full moon twelve months right,
we have to have mercury is in retro great or whatever.

Speaker 1 (10:00):
Yet you want to know the great impact. I'm not
lying because this is a great impact. Right, it's a
great impact. This is not me, Jason, No, no, no
great impact.

Speaker 4 (10:09):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (10:10):
The calendar is twelve months long. The month of September
is just as long as the month of April. Thirty
days has September, April, June, and November. All the rest
have thirty one but February, so it's the same time.

Speaker 4 (10:23):
Same time goes.

Speaker 1 (10:24):
By running and stealing in a drunken state, and I'll
be rocking mob rons.

Speaker 4 (10:28):
So the calendar is twelve months long.

Speaker 1 (10:32):
All the months are thirty days when you get twenty
eight in February, but they're about thirty days long. No
month is way longer than the other. And I want
to thank Aaron Rodgers for giving us the two best
off seasons in the history of the NFL for your
Jets just now the hitting. There has been no team

(10:54):
that has enjoyed a better six month off season of
giddiness and excite did miss than the Jets. The last
two years with Aaron Rodgers. The seasons were awful. They
were ass man, they were terrible. But it doesn't matter
because the six months of the season is the same
length as the six months of the offseason, right, six months,

(11:16):
six months, and I had the fast Lane for six months. Yes,
the six months was February through August, but I had.

Speaker 4 (11:23):
Those six months. I had those. They were great.

Speaker 1 (11:26):
Yeah, but there was hope with a lot of heady. No,
but there was no games to worry about, no pesky games. No, oh,
we're gonna fall short. The Jets are gonna jet whatever
the Jets decide to do. A quarterback is wrong, No, no, no,
no no. I had six months of the fast lady. Yeah,
we're gonna kick your ask because Aaron Rodgers is great. Right,
and then the first year happens, he plays four snaps,
gets hurt. Oh that sucked bad six months, but then

(11:47):
what great six months? Rogers is back we're gonna make
big trades. We got new stuff, A well, we we're great. Yeah,
we're gonna kick your ass again.

Speaker 4 (11:55):
And it didn't happen.

Speaker 1 (11:56):
But still, over the last two years, six months of
each of those years were amazing. I had hard knocks,
I had ayahuasca retreats, I had all kinds of great stuff.

Speaker 4 (12:07):
It was.

Speaker 1 (12:07):
We were full of hope and possibility and giddiness and
electricity and then it all went down the toilet in September.
But it doesn't matter because I had those six months.
You think the six months of the offseason don't count.

Speaker 4 (12:19):
Oh no, no.

Speaker 1 (12:19):
When you're a Jet fan, the Jets stink out loud
for thirty years, and I went my entire forties and
out into into the first half of my fifties without
a beet. Them playoff berth. No, you need the off seasons, man.
There was no team that enjoyed a better, more excitable,
relevant off seasons than the Jets. The last two is
where they dominated conversation. If there was a trophy for

(12:42):
the offseason champion, the Jets would look like the Patriots
of the last twenty years. Wow, offseason champion and twelve
they got far of here off season Championaire offseason Champion
Here off season Champion, Oh offse Channel, Oh it went
out off season Championaire offseason did the last two years
off season champions like we would have so many trophies, Man,
so many trophies. And I'm being honest when I go,

(13:02):
I love those months because there was no pressure at games.
It was I could be excited, I could buy gear,
I could run my bad, you could buy in awesome,
and you could buy in as much or as little
as you needed to because you had the mets that
you were dealing with as well.

Speaker 4 (13:14):
So that's good. You know I'm gonna do. I'm gonna
start my company that we make shot glasses that look
like little trophies and you can line them up for
each year that you won and as you drink. The
other thing the Jets were responsible for And I had
this argument as we celebrated commemorated NFL honors and my
predictive and prognosticating skills of Josh Allen winning the MVP Award.

(13:38):
Like it or not, the Jets are partially responsible for
that because of their failed expectations allowed the Bills to
rise and give him an opportunity to come and claim
the award again. We can fight about Lamar Jackson, Saquon Barkley,
whether the offensive player the year. Thing really just doesn't
matter since those guys never get a sniff at the award.

(13:58):
But all of that to say, you got that for you,
And I will also say I should have won a
Marconi Award last year because after Aaron Rodgers got hurt,
I've never had to definitely work through four hours of
radio carefully because your psyche was broken. You were a
fractured man sitting next to me. You were like my friend.

(14:20):
When Mitch Williams gave up the home run to Joe Carter,
he went sprinting out of the room along the Chicago coastline.
He was down on Lake Michigan. We lost him for
hours and we feared that he jumped in. Eventually I
found him sitting on the side of the road, just
heading his hands, going what happened? What happened? All these
years later, that's still the first thing he says. I

(14:41):
still don't know what happened. And you you're still reeling
from the aftermath, the after shots of that Rogers injury.
But I'll give you that the offseason, the last couple
of years of being a lot of giddiness. I'll look
at look at the team that's been assembled this year.
How many people jumped on board that bandwagon and told
you it was overweighted. It's like when everybody starts pushing

(15:02):
out up, he's like, oh no, no, that's gonna sink.
That's that's terrible, that's that's overweighted and bad. And sure
enough it was for a myriad reasons. But uh, they
did give us plenty of content. And that's all we
can hope for in these chairs that we get to
laugh and point and snicker, and Woody Johnson's kid gets involved.
Oh sweet Brick, Sweet Brick, thank you for the context

(15:26):
front sigh, pressure front. And he pushed him out. I mean,
in the end, Brick makes him go away. Do you
think Brick wrote the statement for what he did?

Speaker 1 (15:34):
He put out to that there's no question about it,
because there was because he's young, because there there was
no punctuation.

Speaker 4 (15:39):
Everything was lower games. Yeah, it was like it was
like he wrote a tweet. Here's a text, Yeah, just
use that, that'll work.

Speaker 1 (15:46):
It's like Kevin Klein getting taught how to, how to,
how to message somebody younger on Facebook in uh in disclaiming.
Oh so don't don't use any capital letters. No, okay,
all right, I don't use that.

Speaker 4 (15:56):
I agree, and just.

Speaker 1 (15:57):
Run on sentences, all right, run on sentences, run on sentences.
But no, but I'm being serious. It was it was
Thank you, Aaron Rodgers because the two off seasons were unbelievable.
And I know the pesky seasons think and Jet's gonna
jet and not sucked, but man, the off seasons were great.

Speaker 4 (16:12):
Thank you for the music. Seasons were great. Song I'm singing.

Speaker 1 (16:16):
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Speaker 4 (18:03):
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Speaker 1 (18:04):
The Jason Smith Show with My best friend Mike Harmon
Live from the Tirack dot com studios. And you're ready
for a great hot take. That's not a hot take. Takes,
but I like hot takes in ourn't hot takes. So
we're getting set last night of the NBA before we
get set for Team Chuck and Team Kenny and Team everybody.

Speaker 4 (18:26):
This weekend celebrity game is better, at least Bailey from
the Wwe may put a hurting on someone if they
try to, you know, handcheck too hard. I think Frankie
Munis might play busy. I hope. So he's best race
car driver. Back for more, Malcolm in the Middle. I
mean we get four, you know, I know, thank you,
Brian Krantzton, thank you, thank you.

Speaker 1 (18:47):
But we saw today what was a big part of
NBA All Star Weekend last weekend is not going to
be part of it this year, and that is a
Steph Curry sabrinian Escu three point challenge where Steph won
by couple. There's been a lot of fun trash talk
back and forth. They tried to get this together, but
for some reason they couldn't. In the NBA said, hey,

(19:08):
we wanted to make sure we not only did it
as good as last year, we wanted to amp it
up a little bit more and have it be something big.
And I'm like, okay, how could you not do I mean,
it's a big deal, right, it's a big thing. How
could you not wind up agreeing on.

Speaker 4 (19:22):
A way to do this?

Speaker 1 (19:23):
People would still watch and then we saw what they
were looking at was potentially trying to get a two
on two three point shooting contents where Steph would have
his partner which could have been Klay Thompson, and Unescu
would have her partner, which could have been Caitlyn Clark. However,
she talked about not doing it once her first time

(19:44):
on the court to be in the WNBA All Star
Game here back in Indiana. And if this doesn't show
you that the biggest star in basketball is Caitlyn Clark,
there's nothing else. I don't mean biggest star in women's basketball.
I mean the biggest star in professional basketball is Caitlyn Clark.
A year ago, I told you she was going to
have a Magic and Larry impact on the WNBA, and

(20:06):
I was low on that. The impact she had on
basketball in general was incredible, the WNBA incredible. When you
have a Steph Curry lead event, Steph Curry is leading
this event and you're not gonna do it because Caitlin
Clark won't do it or can't do it, what does
that really tell you about who moves the needle the
most in all of sports. We have a lot of

(20:27):
big stars. Yet Lebron's a big star right still a
big star as we go through Luca. We pay so
much attention to everything going on. NBA's got lots of stars.
Caitlin Clark is the biggest star in all of basketball.
Whatever she does it is news. Whatever she touches turns
to gold. And I mean a Steph Curry event, one
of the biggest stars in basketball, the top five stars
in the NBA. Oh no, we're not having your event

(20:49):
because we can't get Caitlyn Clark to do it. What
does that really tell you about who the most powerful,
most popular, biggest star in basketball is men's and women's basketball.

Speaker 4 (20:59):
It's Kitlin Clark. You need better pr You need to
really reevaluate how you're coming and approaching All Star weekends
would be the bigger thing. The blip you got for
all the trade discussions before you know that one fell
apart with the Lakers, remember, because that ended up being bad.
Not to mention all the Nico stuff that's fallen out

(21:21):
in Dallas, but all of that to say, yeah, you've
got a bigger problem because you're not getting proper cooperation
from your stars and you're not able to sell your stars.
Caitlin Clark's appearance should not be the thing that's determining
whether you put an event on. I'm sorry. I would
like to think, you know, your multi billion international operations

(21:44):
should be bigger than that. So I think you need
to have some really big moments. And if I'm someone
who's bought advertising or I don't know, bought into what
was that, What was the cost of the TV package,
I'd be going to Adam Silverson, I want my money
back because this is crap. A woman who's got nothing
to do with this league won't participate and you shut

(22:05):
her events. The hell am I buying here?

Speaker 1 (22:07):
Yeah, I'm telling you she's the biggest basketball star in
the world.

Speaker 4 (22:12):
She's bigger than any good for her. Stick to your guns.
You said this weeks ago and you were hoping for
a Hail Mary. If you're the NBA, what a.

Speaker 1 (22:21):
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(23:03):
we think is ahead for the Lakers? What do we
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red hot Denver Nuggets? And Nicola Jokic becoming an MVP
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(23:24):
in the history of the NBA. This week, he's got
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Speaker 4 (23:29):
It is Rick Buker. What's happening, buddy?

Speaker 3 (23:32):
Oh pre Happy Valentine's Day to you fellas.

Speaker 4 (23:37):
Oh thanks, buddy, Can you as well? What's going on.

Speaker 3 (23:41):
Than you stupid yo?

Speaker 4 (23:43):
Cube it?

Speaker 1 (23:46):
Hey, at this point, Rick, without you know, not knowing
who's coming to the rescue for the knicks off the bench.
I would take cupe it off the bench.

Speaker 4 (23:52):
You know we could shoot. I mean, you know we
could shoot.

Speaker 3 (23:55):
Oooh, I'll tell you what, like when you got a
scrap to beat the Atlanta Hawk Man. That's not the direction.
It's not the direction that you want to be going.

Speaker 1 (24:06):
Hey, hey, it's a victory that I don't see Trey
Young like trying to take parts of the MSG court
waving to fans with him at the end of the game.

Speaker 4 (24:14):
We won last night. It's fine. He gets to lead
with an L.

Speaker 2 (24:18):
No.

Speaker 3 (24:19):
You know, the The interesting thing for me is it's like,
how many guys are they going to trade who are
tired of playing with Trey Young before they go hey, instead,
what I mean, come on DeAndre Hunter? Like, oh, honestly,

(24:43):
I was. I know the world was shocked by the
Luka Dansis trade, as was I, but I was second
most shocked that the Atlanta Hawks traded DeAndre Hunter, and
they traded into the Cleveland Cavaliers, who needed exactly they
needed a DeAndre Hunter, twenty seven year old wing shooting

(25:04):
forty from three point range like those those guys are
gold in the leaf today, and they gave him to
the Cleveland Cavaliers for for for Caris Lavert and George
Yang Nyang, neither one of whom was going to be

(25:27):
playing meaningful minutes when it really got down to it
for the Cleveland Cavaliers. Bogdan Bogdani, it's the same thing.
Like I mean, it's look, and when I'm getting off
track here talking about Trey, but like Prey is an
absolute master at the pick and roll and uh and
and he's fascinating to watch and he's great, but it's

(25:50):
not winning basketball. And at some point guys just go,
you look really good. That's really good. We can't win,
like and they get a little frock straighted and the
Atlanta Hawks go, Okay, you're frustrated to see us because
we like we like this trade show.

Speaker 1 (26:07):
That good for DeAndre Hunter. Yeah all right, So now
you talk about the Luca trade. We've seen a couple
of games. Now, the Lakers look really good. In the
first one, they didn't even get off the plane last night.
But okay, I'll give them mulligan on that they had
played really well. They're at the top of the Pacific Division.
Anything you've seen the first couple of games that sticks out.

Speaker 4 (26:27):
For you, great for the Lakers going forward. Concerns going forward,
where are you?

Speaker 3 (26:33):
I look, I'm not worried about Luca and Lebron being
able to play together, and you know it is. It
is fun to watch two guys who can pass the
ball like Luca and Lebron cans to create shots. But
as you saw in the second game, and I you know,
I would push back a little bit on they looked

(26:54):
great in the first game. I thought the Utah Jazz
looked like a team that didn't belong in the NBA.
In the first game, they were harendous. I was like Jordan,
what happened to Jordan Clarson? He's just like a chucker now.
And Kessler Walker I've always been high on and he's
like he was invisible. But I think what you saw

(27:16):
in the second game, which is the way I would
approach it, is I am going to get up and
down on the Lakers as much as I'm going to
push tempo the whole game. The miser make on their shot.
I am pushing tempo because there is no way that
Lebron and Luca want to play transition defense. And when

(27:39):
Jackson Hayes is off the floor, I know they picked
up Alex Lenz. Jackson Hayes is off the floor. They
have no rim protection. I mean even the first game,
Utah was getting to the rim at will. They just
couldn't finish a shot, and they essentially did in the
second game and the altitude got to them. The other
thing that concerns me is Luca after the second game that, yeah,

(28:08):
I'm really looking forward to this break. Okay, two games break.

Speaker 1 (28:19):
You just played two games.

Speaker 3 (28:23):
He does not look like he's in shape. I think
he he has certainly won the pr battle with the
letter to the people who were subjected to the fires
in la and donating five hundred thousand dollars compared to
the Dallas Mavericks ownership, like saying all that they said

(28:47):
about him not being a stand up guy and not
having the work ethic and character and all that stuff.
I mean, Dallas Mavericks has not handled this divorce well
at all. You know, it's they've lost that battle. But

(29:07):
when I look at the shape that Luca is in,
I have some concerns, like it's hard to get into
shape over the course of the season. And when I
look at the rest of that roster, the last thing
I'm worried about is Lebron and Luca being able to
play together as much as like who else is able

(29:31):
to contribute. Dorian city Smith is exactly the kind of
player that you need to play alongside those guys, But
you need about four more of those type guys and
they simply don't have them. And meanwhile, I'm looking over
at Dallas and I think one of the things that
was maybe underappreciated was how good Max Christy has become

(29:53):
and how much he was doing for the Lakers, because
since he's been in Dallas, he has been in the
closing line up every single game, and I know they're shorthanded,
but he's in the in the closing lineup and he's contributing,
and so yeah, I mean, you know, well, I think
they're thirty two and twenty. But I look at the

(30:14):
Western Conference and it is what are we talking about?
Like the Timberwolves, the MAVs, the Kings, the Warriors, like
they're all playing teams right now. I think, if I'm
not mistaken, and like, it is going to be such
a dog fight to try to get into the top six,
and then if you're in the play ins, there's gonna

(30:36):
be some really good teams douking it out. So I
don't know that parody every you know, parody really doesn't
work for the in the big scheme of things for
the NBA. But just as a basketball fan, the Western
Conference is going to be a blood bath and I'm
kind of looking forward to it.

Speaker 4 (30:53):
So that ends. Steve Kerr a lot of whining yesterday,
but motivation as they get a big win on the
road against Houston today, as you're going into the break,
Jimmy Butler playing some big minutes. Steph Kurty seemingly has
another running mate, and the young guys came up pretty
well for them tonight here. I mean, I like that
Houston squad, but what do they look like? This is

(31:17):
the second half. Is Jimmy Butler enough of a guy
to help push the push the needle in the right direction.

Speaker 3 (31:24):
He's certainly pushing them in the right direction. Whether it's
going to be enough is going to be the question.
I think health is going to be in big issue
because you're talking about all mid thirty something guys. You
know can Steph Steph play back and back and had
a pretty solid performance. That generally has not been the
case this year any time he's had to play back
and back. And let's face it, where they are, they

(31:45):
don't have a margin, So you know they're going to
have to They're going to have to look at playing
him probably more minutes than they want to and in
more back to back than they want to. But Jimmy
Butler has definitely bought something to them that Andrew Wiggins
was not. And I want to see them once they

(32:08):
get Donathan kaminga back. I think if you get cominga back,
and that probably means fewer minutes for Buddy healed and
that would probably be a good thing right now. So
I think they're I think they're intriguing. I think they
have a puncher's chance of I mean more likely than not.
They're probably a play in game playing team. Again, but

(32:30):
then when you look at the combination of guys that
they have, I think they could potentially get out of
the play in and into the playoffs. Do I then
think they're going to win around? Probably not. I mean,
I'll put it this way. I think the ceiling for
this team is winning winning around in the playoffs. And

(32:57):
but that is a higher ceiling then I would have
given them before they made the Jimmy Butler trade. So
they have improved. I just don't know, you know. And
I'd say the same thing goes to the Lakers. You know,
we're holding on to Lebron. And I heard it, like
I guess I heard it after the first game against Utah,

(33:20):
like talking about, hey, you know what they can they
could win another championship. I'm like, what do we stop?

Speaker 4 (33:31):
Zz come on, come on, we live in hot take nonsense. Rick,
the show is tonight, I mean, come.

Speaker 3 (33:36):
On, oh it just it hurts my brain when we
leap to these fantastical inclusions all of it, because you know,
we want to see Lebron and Steph doing it one
more time. And it's like, you got to let go
of that at some point. Well, even if they're capable

(33:57):
of it, their teams are not. That's the heart of it.

Speaker 4 (34:00):
Well, here's the thing Rick to take to go from
a teams we want to see do it again.

Speaker 1 (34:04):
This is why I loved them doing nothing at the
deadline because I thought all they had just get healthy
and gel and don't trade Porter Junior. And look at
the Nuggets. They've won eight in a row. It's the
best offense in the NBA right now. You'll get just
back at the beginning of the of the or at
the top of the MVP conversation with SGA. I'm not

(34:25):
gonna be surprised when it's the Nuggets to get out
of the Western Conference of the NBA Finals.

Speaker 4 (34:29):
They are just a machine right now.

Speaker 3 (34:31):
Yeah, And we're taking Nikola Jokics for granted. The dude
is averaging it. He's averaging thirty four, twelve and ten.
He's shooting forty five percent from three point range. He's
upped his the number of threes that he's taking, which
was really what cost them last year is that he
couldn't hit a three, and he looked hesitant shooting threes.

(34:52):
He came back clearly wanting to like, I gotta tighten
that up. I gotta get that right and has And
so from the beginning of the year was was just
the way, Seeing the way Jokic, the way that he
was approaching the season, I gave him a chance. But
but that's that, And we please take a look at

(35:14):
who they've played these astate games. They've played the Portland
Trailblazers twice, They've played the New Orleans Pelicans twice. They've
played the Philadelphia seventy six ers and the Charlotte Hornets.
If I'm not mistaken, like, let's slow down just the

(35:35):
lead of what this winning streak means, because they've been
shooting fish in a barrel here. Okay, it's not. It's
not they they haven't been playing like Okay, see in
Boston and Cleveland and Milwaukee and you know, Memphis and

(35:56):
whatever like they've they've it's been a they've take if
taken advantage of the schedule. They've done what they're supposed
to do. But uh, you know, I still I still
wonder like can they get enough out of you know,
Michael Porter Junior quite honestly, and Aaron Gordon after losing

(36:18):
his brother, Like those those are just that's that's real
life stuff. And and both of them have had you know,
personal issues or issues surrounding them off the court, and
and and those things can impact players just like they
impact anybody else in doing their jobs. And this is

(36:40):
such a high wire act playing in the NBA, and
there's so much pressure that just things like that can
suck the focus and the energy out of guys. And
it's not not their fault, it's life, but it's it's
enough that it can take a team that has championship
aspirations and it can be just enough to and you know,

(37:02):
it's not like they have this huge margin of error.
But I will say this, Nikolai Jokich looks like he's
trying to make up for all of it. And I
would not one. I would not bet against him, and
I would not like I think people maybe had a
fatigue on want to give the MVP to Shay Gilges Alexander.
I am in no way doing that right now. For me,
I think if it's not neck and neck Jokic certainly

(37:27):
is very much right there in terms of winning another MVP.

Speaker 1 (37:30):
He's on Twitter at Rick Buker, that is at Rick Bucher.
Check out Beyond the Ball podcast as well. Rick as always,
Buddy appreciated my friend. Enjoy All Star weekend. We'll talk
to you soon.

Speaker 3 (37:40):
I certainly will.

Speaker 1 (37:41):
Guys see rather be good there, he goes Rick Bucher.
Great stuff from him. You know, instead of trading all
the guys around trading, he makes a very solid point.
Time now to find out what's trending in the wide
world of sportsmanth Disney fan who's been called the ursula
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Speaker 2 (37:59):
Man.

Speaker 1 (38:00):
She's got an incredible voice, but really where did she
get it from?

Speaker 4 (38:03):
It's I really can't sing for you know what. That's
not me.

Speaker 5 (38:09):
I would definitely steal someone's voice, like I.

Speaker 4 (38:11):
Would have to steal someone's voices voice, would you steal?

Speaker 5 (38:16):
That's a good one, Olivia Rodrigo Right now. I like
a voice that can yell and sing, like like Hailey
Haley from Paramore Hale Hale.

Speaker 4 (38:26):
No, he was really good in the age Paramore Hailey.
Well Hailey at well, yeah, Hailey, is that what it is? Well?

Speaker 3 (38:35):
She is.

Speaker 4 (38:35):
She is in a stage show right now with Hailey Williams.
Hailey Williams.

Speaker 5 (38:39):
Okay, like those that can scream but sing at the
same time. Okay, I mean she can't scream and yell
at the same Yeah, she could.

Speaker 4 (38:50):
Do, would you Simpson, that's Simpson?

Speaker 6 (38:56):
Yeah. Well, the Clippers are making things in seeing against
the Jazz. They are up one fifteen to one fourteen
in overtime with ninety seconds to go. James Harden thirty
two points, ten rebounds, seven assists.

Speaker 5 (39:09):
Ben Simmons in his debut for the Clippers. He actually
has got twelve points, seven rebounds, couple of assists, but man,
he does not want to shoot the ball. Like it's
so weird to see him get the ball.

Speaker 7 (39:21):
At the top of the key and then not even
look at the basket, just pass it to a corner.
Like I don't understand that mentality with Ben Simmons. But
he's he's been playing defense well for the Clippers on
his debut and does have some points, which is just
crazy to see that it's broke, it's it's it's just
crazy to see, like doesn't even look at the basket,
you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 5 (39:40):
Nasri led the wave for the Timberwooves as they took
down the number one seat in the Western Conference. The
Thunder one sixteen to one oh one. Reid had twenty
seven points and thirteen rebounds. The Mavericks, who literally had
nobody playing today, they scratched Klay Thompson and Kyrie Irving.

Speaker 2 (39:56):
They came out on top.

Speaker 4 (39:57):
Of the Heat one eighteen to one thirteen.

Speaker 5 (39:58):
But ESPN is reported that Daniel Gafford will miss at
least six weeks after sustaining a Grade three right mcl spring.
They're also expecting Anthony Davis and Derek Lively to miss
a significant amount of time as well. In the second
half of the season, CJ McCollum had forty three points
and the Pelicans beat the Kings in overtime one forty
to one. Thirty three Warriors they beat the Rockets one

(40:21):
oh five to ninety eight. Right now, in women's college hoops,
the undefeated team UCLA number one team taking on number
six USC Yes and UCLA is up fifty two to
forty nine with about seven minutes to go in the game.
Lauren Betts eighteen points for UCLA. Juju Watkins thirty points
for sc In NASCAR, Bubba.

Speaker 4 (40:43):
Wallace was victorious in Dual.

Speaker 5 (40:45):
One at Daytona, earning a third place starting position for
Sunday's Daytona five hundred and In hockey at the Four
Nations face Off, USA crushed Finland six to one.

Speaker 1 (40:56):
Back to you guys, Thank you, mine, Yes, Jason Smith
Mike Harmon Live the Tiract Studios. You want a fun
great NBA take over one of the big teams that
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Speaker 4 (41:15):
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you really sure? Also, is Muffort Mumford and his sons
or is it just his son's Muffy.

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It's a bunch of sons. It's like a like an
auto mechanic. Heah yeah, Mumfort inside Chico and the man. Yeah, like,
don't be discouraged the man he ain't so yeah, I'm
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a trade that it looked like it happened today, then
it looked like it was talked about, and then it
was No trade is ever happening. However, for the first

(42:07):
time in a long time, I don't know what week
they ascended to be number one in the country, but
we are going to see a new number one team
in women's college basketball, number one. With thirty seconds to
go in the fourth quarter, USC leads UCLA sixty nine

(42:28):
to fifty eight, make it seventy to fifty eight after
a free throw. Juju Watkins thirty eight points to go
along with eleven rebounds and five assists. She has six threes.
USC is not only gonna win this game, they're gonna
win this game going away. And wow, all of a sudden,
for all the pushing women's college basketball, where's all the

(42:50):
star power gonna be this year?

Speaker 4 (42:52):
Where is it?

Speaker 1 (42:52):
We think in Yukon with Paige Beckers and everything else,
And now gino oriem is feuding with Paige Beckers in
the media, like I'm feuding with you, Reddick.

Speaker 4 (43:01):
Yeah, maybe the two best teams in the country are
here in Los Angeles. Maybe the two best teams a
right here. Pretty amazing. With four minutes remaining in this game,
it was fifty eight to fifty seven and we've walked
USC on this run. You mentioned a lot of the
offensive numbers has been interesting to watch. Working down in
the low post. Juju Watkins has either seven or eight
block shots in this game, coming in and helping against

(43:24):
Bets in the low post. They've been able to feed
her low, but as soon as she gets into her spin,
here comes Watkins, here comes other help defenders, and they've
made life miserable in the low post. So just an
amazing end of game. Crowd losing their minds. And this
was the marquee matchup. Yeah, final day of the first

(43:45):
half of the NBA season as we get ready for
the All Star break up in the San Francisco Bay area.
But this is just a fantastic back and forth and
then down the stretch. USC just absolutely taken over one
in ten all time versus the AP number one. That
is the number they keep bringing up in old shots
of Cheryl Miller a montage after montage or back in

(44:09):
the day, what eighty three, eighty four when she won. Yeah,
you're going all the way back then.

Speaker 1 (44:15):
I see your page Beckers, and I raise you juju Watkins.

Speaker 4 (44:20):
Cheryl Miller at the game getting her love as well.
But yeah, juju watkins. Uh, you know, we we've been
joking about trading cards. We'll buy a couple of juju
Watkins that have been so that's for sure.

Speaker 1 (44:32):
Just a Monstern g USC has thirteen blocks tonight, and
so it's gonna be interesting to see. Look, we'll get
the final line for juju Watkins here, but I mean
if it's seven or eight blocks, you're looking you're looking
at a line for juju Watkins of thirty eight eleven rebounds,
eight blocks and five assists, like that's that's in.

Speaker 3 (44:54):
Now.

Speaker 4 (44:54):
There have been a couple of the blocks where it
becomes the all right, is that a block? How much
body did get? You know, like everybody gets those butts
those like but once you get you get to the six, seven, eight,
like yeah, okay, especially in a contesting game. But as
USC pulled away, I mean the aggressiveness, uh, and and
just being able to extend this lead late twenty one

(45:15):
and two coming into the game number six uh in
the country, getting ready to take down the undefeated Bruins.
I mean, this is this is something and for Juju Watkins. Look,
we've been looking for next we talk about the positivity
and the just absolute powerhouse that Caitlin Clark is and
we already got. You know, the next coming up, be

(45:35):
it Paige Beckers, be it, be it Juju Watkins. Then
the next March madness will be something to behold.

Speaker 1 (45:42):
I think Yukon USC would be a fun national championship.

Speaker 4 (45:45):
Fun thing that right. I mean, I think Geno Arima,
we've talked more about him going after his own players
like Paige Beckers. Yeah, she's really good.

Speaker 1 (45:54):
She's really good. She wants the ball in her hands
all the time. When there's two defenders on her. She
doesn't want the ball.

Speaker 4 (45:59):
He doesn't want it anywhere near her. She can't get
rid of it fast enough. I think it's what he said,
you no, go gee, no, hey, Gino's better for his
press conference has been winning anymore. So this is good
for us.

Speaker 1 (46:12):
Hey, remember what it used to be relevant every March
and people would ask me something. I would pick the
one topic to be really crusty and curmudgeingly about.

Speaker 4 (46:19):
I'm back everybody, Well, but you got it back. You
got Hurley winning over here. Now some struggles this year,
and you know, talking to the crowd, look at my
rings and all this stuff. Gino's like, I need some
headlines back. What can I say to keep up with Hurley?

Speaker 1 (46:32):
No, And it is a final from here in La
Number six USC seventy one, number one UCLA sixty, their
first loss of the year, their first win over a
number one team in the country since that magical USC
year of nineteen eighty three.

Speaker 4 (46:48):
Fun atmosphere. I'm already filling out my women's college basketball bracket.
Are we working backwards? I'm gonna, yeah, I'm gonna.

Speaker 1 (46:54):
I'm gonna work back because they can't keep on the
same side, obviously. Sure, I'm I think I'm gonna have
Yukon and USC in the national championship. I think I'm
gonna have that, Okay, and then we'll move then we'll
fill in around from there. It'll be the first bracket
that I work backwards from instead of like in the RECU,
who wins this, who wins this.

Speaker 4 (47:10):
Who wins this? Now, I think it's someone No, that's
just it. Do the back mat So those two paths
are pretty easy. Now you just have to pick the
rest of the bracket. But that's easy now, he just
got to work through the rest of it.

Speaker 1 (47:22):
The Jason Smith Show with Mike Carmen Life from the
tirect dot Com Studios Now Today began in the NFL
with an absolute rocket where there was a report from
a guy from the Golf Channel. Well, you know, well,
not Adam Schefter, not Jay Glazer, not Jay Glazer's burner

(47:42):
accounts that may be out there, Not Adam Schefter, not
a darn Schefter, not a dude from the Golf Channel
tweet it out that hey, Steelers have made a phone
call to the Jaguars about Trevor Lawrence. And this got
spread like it was it was like a World War

(48:03):
Z where suddenly they're on the plane and there's one
person in fact, then the whole plane is in fact.

Speaker 4 (48:08):
Like this thing spread so fast, I got a fever.

Speaker 1 (48:11):
Well, the Steelers, the Steelers wound up called, they called
the Jaguars they could get Trevor Lawrence. And then middle
of the day it was hey, we don't know how
real this is. We don't know if this actually happened
or not.

Speaker 4 (48:23):
We're wait.

Speaker 1 (48:24):
And then by three o'clock or so in the afternoon,
it was there were no phone calls made. The Steelers
have not approached the Jaguars about this. Trade has not
happened where we're not entertaining trading. Trevor Lawrence is not.
So this went from oh my goodness, the Steelers are
getting Trevor Lawrence too.

Speaker 4 (48:41):
There was never anything about this. It's great though, right
because they're like, the Steelers are going to be aggressive.
Look what they're doing. They're going after a quarterback. It's
a total change in the way the franchise is that
nat I didn't maybe the guy last day was bur
Maybe tomorrow the pardon me, are you mister Burr? Sir?
That depends who's asking sure. I'm Adam Schefter.

Speaker 1 (49:01):
I got a golf skip on on Scotty Scheffler and
Schefter and Scheffler and Schefter and Scheffler, which would.

Speaker 4 (49:08):
Be pretty it just wrote it, just wrote itself right there,
nicely done. Wait a rift. I knew I could lay
that up to you right there.

Speaker 1 (49:15):
I want Adam Schefter now to have an inside bit
with Scotti Scheffler. I really want that now, and also
talk about former Broncos tight end showing Tony Scheffler.

Speaker 4 (49:22):
So I want a Schefer. Let's go. He was, uh,
Western Kentucky or Western Michigan.

Speaker 1 (49:30):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I think it was western.
I think Western Michigan, Western Michigan, Bronco. I think that's right.

Speaker 4 (49:36):
Yeah, so that's useless knowledge.

Speaker 1 (49:38):
For one hundred hours, the story went from out to no,
it's not happening.

Speaker 4 (49:42):
But it was so exciting. It wasn't something that we
talked about. It was just like JJ reddick, thanks for
listening to the show.

Speaker 1 (49:49):
Yeah, it was very exciting. Here's where it should go
from here. If you haven't called the Jaguars about Trevor Lawrence,
call the Jaguars about Trevor Lawrence. Call call.

Speaker 4 (49:58):
They don't have a GM though, call they don't even
have that kid GM.

Speaker 1 (50:01):
No, you can go. You get Scotty Carson, that kid
GM will answer. You get Trevor Lawrence for three second
round picks that I'm still interviewing GMS. You got you
gotta tell me, Sonny, what's going on. I'm not getting
my guy. I'm not getting my guy, Sonny.

Speaker 4 (50:13):
What's going on? I'm paddict Sonny the kid GM.

Speaker 2 (50:16):
What do you know?

Speaker 4 (50:17):
Sonny? Call Hey, I'm gonna look like an idiot there.

Speaker 1 (50:23):
I got Jonah from VEEP and I got Dennis Leary
in here with me.

Speaker 4 (50:26):
What do you think? I know? The only thing that
is going on.

Speaker 1 (50:28):
I got the guy who played meat Loaf is also
here telling me stuff. Uh call the Jaguars calls. If
you are a team that needs a quarterback. We talked
about it last talk about last hour. This is the
worst year to need a quarterback. There is nobody out there.
Trevor Lawrence really is just a guy. However, even though

(50:49):
he is overpaid, he is still better than anybody. You're
gonna get this off.

Speaker 4 (50:53):
So the change of scenery with a competent coach, you've seen, like,
look what we've had. We've had a revolving door. Peterson
came in after urban Meyer screwed everything up.

Speaker 1 (51:01):
If Sam Donald can wind up finding a place to
look really good, then Trevor Lawrence can find a place
to look really good. It's just not happening in Jacksonville.
It's just not I'm sorry we've seen it for too long.
We've seen him four years and he's just okay. He
had one really good year and the rest has been. Boy,
he turns the ball over a lot and he's not dynamic.
And that big second half against the Charger he had that.
That that's been his His legacy has been that one

(51:24):
second half against the Chargers. So if you need a quarterback, yeah,
call because Trevor Lawrence would be the best guy you
can get.

Speaker 3 (51:31):
Now.

Speaker 1 (51:31):
Yes, he's overpaid, but you already know. I know what
I'm paying for my quarterback. I know what I got.
And if you're the Jaguars, you gotta listen. You gotta listen.
How many coaches are you gonna bring in to work
with Trevor Lawrence before you realize that, like Rick Buker
told us last hour, how many guys are the Hawk's
gonna trade away? You played with Trey Young before the
Hawks go eh, maybe we should instead, we should do this.

(51:54):
How many coaches you're gonna bring in to try to
get the best out of Trevor Lawrence? It's just not working.
You overpaid for him him. You are a tear down.
The Jaguars are an absolutely id. They have a couple
of nice pieces I'm not saying they don't.

Speaker 4 (52:06):
Thomas.

Speaker 1 (52:06):
Brian Thomas is terrific, right, You got a couple of
good running backs. I like to have the running back
room there. Tight End is position is pretty good. You
got a couple of good tight ends too. But with
all of this, Trevor Lawrence is just a guy, and
he's coming off a big injury. And if you can
get out from under the fifty five million dollars a year,
you can go get a quarterback somewhere that can Hey,

(52:27):
we'll draft a guy. We'll draft a guy in the
second round. Well maybe maybe Jalen Milroe is the guy.

Speaker 4 (52:32):
Maybe not.

Speaker 1 (52:33):
You need to do something else simply because this direction
is not working. And you can't keep looking at Trevor
Lawrence and thinking he's fresh faced out of Clemson and
is going to take over the league. He's not the
same guy. I get that he means a lot to
the team because you drafted him, and you drafted him
number one. He was supposed to be generational, but he's not.
And you have to understand that at some point you

(52:55):
have to move to a future that is better for you.
We've had, we've had the president future for the last
four years now, this will be the third coach coming
into Now, this guy's gonna eventually how much you have
to realize, Okay, here, Trevor Lawrence isn't gonna work. He's
gotta go someplace else to try to figure things out.
And you can do it. You'll get draft picks, right,
You'll be able to get the draft picks you want.

(53:15):
Who knows, maybe you get to move up high enough
in the first round to get that quarterback you want.
You can blow the Browns away with an offer or
the Giants away with an offer and move up again.
You can get you can get draft picks, you can
get out from under that salary, and you can really
restart in Jacksonville because we've seen enough from Trevor Lawrence
to go, okay here, it's just not working. Maybe won't
work anyplace else, but other teams with the quarterback situation

(53:37):
out there, when Sam Donold's the best guy out there
and Gardner Minshew is the next best guy out there, yeah,
that there will be a market for Trevor Lawrence hundred percent. Oh,
there's no question about it. And look for the acquiring team,
it becomes the let's work on the contract let's stretch
things out. Maybe you convert some stuff to give yourself
some flexibility to get the best supporting cast around him.
But goes back to a conversation you and I have

(53:59):
had a couple of times after his hiring, and look,
it was kind of muted by some of the other
coaching hires, but Cohen going in we laughed about his
duva and his wife saying, I promise we'll learn how
to say it right.

Speaker 4 (54:12):
Blah blah blah. That's all find and good. This is
also a guy when we talked with Jason locafora and
it's something that we punctuated a number of times. This
is a guy that's changed jobs every year for like
six seven years. That's usually not a good sign. I
like upwardly mobile. I like a guy that has climbing
the ladder, but when you're doing that in multiple organizations,
that usually has a bunch of flares up. Remember your guy,

(54:34):
Joanna Cesspitis and I warned you when he got to
the met like he's been bouncing organizations, this is not
gonna end. Well what happened, Yeah, we didn't series and
then it really didn't, but it didn't really paid him
and we're on the hook for him. Then we gave
him four years and one hundred million. I said, did
we just threw that money away? That was okay? But yeah,
so you had that run and then that it was
spectacular thereafter for Trevor Lawrence multiple years. Here's a hard reset,

(55:00):
new coach, bringing in a new GM, new philosophy, whatever,
Trevor Lawrence. Somewhere else that's more stable, that has a plan,
that has an organization with some level of foundation. Sorry
duval A County, Sorry Jaguars fans. Maybe it's all for
the best. And I like Trevor Lawrence, I think there's

(55:21):
something else to be tapped into there if you had
a functional offensive line. Oh look, etn did not become
the guy that they expected.

Speaker 3 (55:29):
Right.

Speaker 4 (55:30):
Certainly you haven't been able to capture lightning in a
bottle there. You've had some hits and misses. Look, Christian
Kirk getting hurt certainly didn't help matters last year because
running him with Brian Thomas might have been pretty entertaining.
You might have been able to get some more juice
out of that offense. Guess what wishes and hopes? That's

(55:50):
all for Christmas Morning? Of what might be under the tree.
You're running an operation and you have to realize where
you are. And at this point, hitting a hard reset
might be the wit and.

Speaker 1 (56:00):
Go exit out about a Fresca exit swollen Dome. The
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Speaker 4 (56:08):
Call.

Speaker 1 (56:09):
If the Jaguars are smart, they will listen. You can
strike a deal and everybody's happy. See we're solving problems
here on a Thursday night.

Speaker 4 (56:16):
No, that's what we try to do.

Speaker 1 (56:17):
I mean, we're here for American for the Globe on
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the biggest NFL story of the day as one team
has decided to wave farewell to their quarterback of the
last couple of years. Plus way, do we give you
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