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February 18, 2025 40 mins

Jason and Mike debate if the reaction to how 'bad' the NBA All-Star Game was completely overblown. The guys play ‘TAG’ with NFL Insider Jason La Canfora. Plus, TWO MLB injuries to watch out for all season long!

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Speaker 4 (00:59):
Nah wildcat sixty eight seconds left question.

Speaker 1 (01:03):
Mark at the end Chriss on hockey Wick words that,
uh yeah, this is how weird, this is how bad?
And NBA All Star weekend.

Speaker 4 (01:12):
Well, shouldn't we just complain for the next four hours
what an awful week they?

Speaker 5 (01:16):
That's all we should do. I think it's terrible.

Speaker 4 (01:18):
It was stomp up and down and tell everybody how
terrible they were. And if you were one of the
fourteen million people that watched it, you're a horrible person
who uses their time terribly.

Speaker 5 (01:29):
Isn't that what we're supposed to do?

Speaker 1 (01:30):
All the players didn't like the All Star Game, the
fans didn't like the All Star Game. The fans want
a new All Star Game. Everybody wants to criticize the NBA.
They don't know what they're doing. Why did they make
these changes. I don't like the short games. I don't
like how much time there is between games. I don't
like the fact that a rookie team can play on
a Sunday night. On a Sunday Draymond Green on a sudden,

(01:51):
I like you, nobody had a worse weekend than the NBA.

Speaker 5 (01:55):
I mean really, it was just I was like, okay,
we're waiting.

Speaker 1 (01:58):
We knew the game was gonna stink, we knew it
what was going on wasn't gonna be great, and then
here we are, it happens, and now it's okay, let's
just unload on the NBA.

Speaker 5 (02:06):
When the All Star Game.

Speaker 1 (02:07):
Was exactly what we thought it was gonna be, you know.
And that's the thing is that the NBA All Star
Game not being good is not the decline and fall
of Western civilize.

Speaker 5 (02:20):
It just it's everything. It's it's it's the T shirt.
It's an All Star shirt. Everything there is.

Speaker 1 (02:25):
There is such you know a difference between the actual
impact of the All Star Game and what people thought
about and then what's being said about it, like like
a personal affront has been done to all the NBA
players and pundits and experts and analysts, like, I can't
believe the NBA put this out there. For me, it's
an All Star game. What the blank do you want

(02:46):
it to be? Man, it's an All Star game.

Speaker 5 (02:47):
It's here. We're forgetting about it. We're moving on right that.

Speaker 1 (02:50):
That's kind of what the All Star games are like
that you can't think back.

Speaker 2 (02:54):
To the All Star Game was great.

Speaker 5 (02:56):
Yeah, it was great years ago. It was great.

Speaker 1 (02:58):
It was also the NBA wasn't as great because you
didn't see as many games. You didn't get to see
the players as much as you done. Oh, the NBA
is in a better place now than it was when
the All Star Game was great. It's an All Star game.
It's an All Star game. This is not somebody went
into your pocket and took money away from you. It
was an All Star I don't know what people want
it to be. This is a completely overrated buck. As

(03:18):
far as the impact of the All Star Game on
the NBA, Adam Silver is a failure. It's an All
Star game. What the hell do you want?

Speaker 4 (03:24):
Adam Silver should have just been holding up the numbers
seven and six the entire time. I don't care about
any of this, so that DV ratings don't matter. We
already got the bag seventy six billion dollars.

Speaker 5 (03:39):
You want to complain about this?

Speaker 4 (03:40):
The sanctity of All Star Sunday, the Draymond Green comments,
that's about as laughable as it gets. And for the
players themselves, I give them credit. They actually look like
they wanted to play basketball in between Kevin Hart and
everybody else having to yammer on and do stand up
comedy for fifteen minutes at a time. Yeah, Shay Gilgess,
Alexander be like, can I actually play basket?

Speaker 5 (04:00):
Can we just play basketball? Please?

Speaker 4 (04:02):
So if you'd actually done that in your three and
a half hours of televised time, which included thirty minutes
of basketball play. You know you came for the basketball.
The rest of it's a fun side show. But when
the guys show up and actually want to play basketball,
guess what. Just roll the ball out and let him
play basketball. Let them do what they do in the
offseason and everything else. So yeah, it was fine when

(04:25):
they had other highlights. Mac mcglung comes out of nowhere
and answers the bats signal and gives you the big
dunk contest. I still think Stefan Castle should have won
because you know what, no props. But that's fine. That's
a whole other debate for another time. But the sanctity
of your product, no worry about getting guys, staying healthy

(04:45):
and finishing out the twenty five games that are left.
Maybe re examine when you actually have your all star game.
Now that most of your teams have some opportunity to
sniff the back end of the playoffs, so there's meaningful
basketball had for all but maybe three t EAMs at
each conference figure those things out, figuring out how to
kiss the asses of sponsors and then get a game on.

(05:07):
That doesn't matter as long as they glad handed the
right guys and took pictures, everybody's happy, everybody goes home,
all the sponsors, and the seventy six billion will be spent.

Speaker 5 (05:17):
Now, you can't ask the game to be something it's not.
But what do you want? I don't know, but I
don't want this? Okay, now the players are mad and
all kinds of stuff.

Speaker 2 (05:25):
I don't want.

Speaker 5 (05:25):
Give me a solution. Not this, I don't know. That's
like my kid when she was little.

Speaker 4 (05:29):
Oh yeah, you'd hand her, you know, you'd put the
meal in front of her.

Speaker 5 (05:32):
And she'd go, that's not my favorite. I'm like, no,
I don't care. What do you want. I don't want this.
It's not my favorite.

Speaker 1 (05:37):
Tell me something you want, No, but I want something
out No no no, not this, not this, not no
no no. But that's kind of what it's been. And
I get it because the backdrop of it is the
NBA All Star Game had to watch where Okay, the NHL,
which also has been a we're gonna throw stuff up
against the wall and see what sticks, right, they have

(05:58):
found something. Amazingly they found Wait a minute, this whole
four Nations thing is a huge hit. Oh wow, And
now they've hit on something that is the best idea
they've had in probably twenty years to go back. The
best thing the NHL did was, well, they came back
from the lockouts. That's a pretty good four on four overtime,

(06:21):
three on three overtime and eliminating the red line. And
now this, like this is the best thing the NHL
has done. But this is something that cuts through because
now this four nation tournament is a big deal. Yes,
you saw the excitement what happened over the weekend with
the United States and Canada and beating Canada three to
one and booing our national anthem and three fights in
the first nine seconds in Canada like Apollo Creed after

(06:43):
winning tonight over Philly goal we want you, we want you.
And now Thursday night is a Titanic game with the
United States and Canada. For this, like the Hockey's figured out, Oh,
this is what the All Star situation should be. And
they're stupid if they don't go to this every year.
Because the one thing about hockey, and this is a

(07:03):
good and bad, is that when it's United States hockey,
when it's an Olympic or World Cup setting, everybody's all
in all of a sudden, it cuts through the clutter
and becomes the biggest sports story out there because of
Miracle on Ice. We all still remember, even if we're
not old enough to remember watching it, the impact of
miracle and ice, which is still purely the biggest sports
story of my lifetime. This is forty five years later,

(07:24):
Like this is a pure sports impact where it was,
you're still feeling it whenever it's Us against the world,
whenever it's it's it's American pride, Like, hey, we get
in on it now. The bad dudes for hockey is
that's really the only thing that people go crazy for.
But now you've seen that this is what it should
be every single year. And you already saw NBA players saying,
we want our own USA versus the world. Right, we

(07:44):
can't have USA. We're a different nations. Not enough players
are there that can make All Star teams. But they
want their version of that. And they talked about it
today and Yokich and Trey Young and hey, we want
this thing now. Because the NHL they figured it out.
This should be every single year. There should be no
All Star game in the NHL. You could still name
people all starts. Hey, congratulations, you're named at All Star,

(08:06):
meaning you get the designation of being an All Star.
And then you have the rosters for the four nation tournament,
which hey, next time next year, expand it. Right, Obviously
Russia is not playing this year because of the sanctions
because of the war in Ukraine. But you have enough
to get other teams. Hey, Germany will get a team
in probably next year. They'd have enough to get in
this year. But you expand this thing and make it
a two week you're shutting down the NHL for two weeks.

(08:26):
You can play a big round robin with with six
seven teams in, like everybody gets in for this man,
you would own this week on the calendar. If the
NHL is smart, they make this a permanent thing and
say this is how we're doing it for the rest
of the time. This ald All Star. They Hey, we
threw enough up against the wall. We finally got something
to stick.

Speaker 4 (08:43):
This should be it, well US versus the world, right,
And I mean go through the history different iterations of this.
I mean they're saying that the what US went over
Canada saying averaged about four point four million users or viewers.
I should say that's pretty good number right on the
grand scale. You're not getting NFL numbers. You're not getting

(09:04):
college football playoff numbers, but four point four million on
a Saturday night. The way the things went viral immediately,
three fights and nine seconds. I think the over underd
fights was two and a half. By the way, I
think we had that cashed nine seconds. So get that
money back into the batting fields immediately. But you tap
into the national pride, as you said, it's always gonna

(09:26):
be there, whether it's the miracle on ice, whether it's
just the general geopolitical climate we've been in and have
been living in for I mean decided where you jumped
in out there listening wherever you are on the globe,
right the iHeartRadio app, all our affiliates, wherever you jumped
in on that. But national pride always comes in. I

(09:47):
mean that's why they lean into those ads hey made
in the USA. How many of those have you seen
in the last year or so? Right, leaning back into it.
So if that's gonna trickle down into the players, coaches
and those rivalries and national pride coming in, I mean,
think about the NBA All Star Game. What was the
greatest line, But we came out of Nikola Jokic going yeah,

(10:09):
I miss Luca.

Speaker 5 (10:10):
I wish he was here. We had a good lot
of good times.

Speaker 4 (10:12):
Well they'd be paired together and though good times would
be Roland, no question about it. But all of that
to say, yeah, you got to try to find something
in that formula that's gonna get folks stoked and keep
throwing stuff against the wall, or just cancel it all together.

Speaker 5 (10:28):
You know what. It's a meet and.

Speaker 4 (10:29):
Greet, come down, sign some autographs, take some photos, and
just do an extension of the week long convention that
you've already got for the NBA, the NHL. For right now,
Gary Bettman's got to be loving this. Get a couple
more teams involved, expand a tournament. I think everybody's more
than happy to break it down because we've had two

(10:49):
week breaks in the past. We've seen extended spaces, you know,
because of the international play.

Speaker 5 (10:55):
Same thing here.

Speaker 4 (10:56):
Just dial it up, give it another week and capture
whatever market that you can and sell the hell out
of your stars. Anybody that's going anywhere near a giant
milestone for themselves or on a career chart that should
be in the lower third. Constantly you are watching greatness.
Let me remind you look right now, United States trailing
Sweden two to one in a game.

Speaker 1 (11:16):
The United States does not need nobody named Coulchuck is
playing in this game.

Speaker 5 (11:20):
So just to let you know, okay, really don't need
to Well, they gotta be ready to fight on Thursday.

Speaker 1 (11:24):
But look, but that's the whole thing is that all
these sports now are looking for a way to try
to jazz up the middle of the season. Right The
NBA is looking at the mid season tournaments, the nd
season tournaments.

Speaker 5 (11:34):
The NHL is looking.

Speaker 1 (11:35):
The NHL's found it, like they've found their mid season tournament.
This is a very big deal. Whatever you want to
call this, the four nations, six nations, a whatever it is.

Speaker 5 (11:44):
You come up with a real swell name for it.

Speaker 1 (11:46):
It's becomes something that every year everybody's gonna want to
play for and everybody's gonna stop and watch. It's a
great place on the calendar. It's right after the Super Bowl,
before we get into the combine a little bit. You
have NBA All Star Weekend. You not really can heating
with anything. You have a nice two week tournament that
ends with a championship and some kind of metal.

Speaker 5 (12:07):
Gold medal. That's fine.

Speaker 1 (12:08):
It doesn't need to be Olympics to be gold medal,
but they figured out the midseason tournament that everybody is
going to be in. Because you look at the attention
that this has right away. I think the NHL is
going to look back and say, Okay, what are the
biggest events of the last twenty five years and a
few years they're gonna look back and say Game one
or Game two for the United States, United States Canada

(12:29):
in the first four Nations, the brawl off, the beginning,
everything going with the national anthem and the hatred that
Canada has the United States, United States for Canada with
the whole are we gonna annex Canada or not? Are
they gonna try to annex California? Like we're gonna look
back at that moment and say, this was the birth
of that in hockey. And now they've they've taken over
and they figured it out. So again it's a silver

(12:50):
lining for the NBA, Like, hey, keep throwing stuff up
against the wall, man, you never know what's gonna stick.
And the NHL clearly did it for a long time
and look they found it, so NBA just keep doing it.

Speaker 4 (13:00):
Well for the NBA, they also found the win you
buried it, and they buried the lead there in the
end of tournament and playoff playing right getting to ten
teams whatever we're calling that at this point, it's sponsored
by somebody at this point, isn't it. But the fact
that you've got teams outside of the Mavericks a couple
of years ago that everybody takes it seriously if they

(13:21):
can actually get to that ten slot, because then you
have a puncher's chance to maybe make some noise. Right,
you get guys healthy, get the right matchup and your role.

Speaker 5 (13:29):
We've seen it.

Speaker 4 (13:29):
We watch what the Lakers were able to do out
of those spots. We've seen the Warriors make runs. So
you've already hit on that you're not going to bat
a thousand. So for Adam Silver, it's trying to figure
out what the next iteration of things and if players
are commenting on this hockey win to get on board,
then yeah, this is the next iteration. All right, this

(13:51):
didn't work. Everybody rated it terribly. Everybody said let's cancel,
including Kevin Durant. But if you get him back, I
mean he was crying talking about his USA basketball. Yes,
I know, I know, there's you're in Adam Silver. I
know I got him? Who else can I get?

Speaker 1 (14:07):
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against the wall and you'll get a solution.

Speaker 3 (14:16):
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Speaker 1 (15:41):
Fox Sports Radio The Jason Smith Show with My best
friend Mike Harmon. Ten minutes ago in the third Sweden
leeds United States two to one. Again, this game doesn't
matter if the United States. They are set to play
for the Four Nations Championship on Thursday against Canada. Big
Day tomorrow in the NFL. Will t Higgins be getting

(16:03):
the franchise tag? Will Sam Darnald be getting the franchise tag.
Can we see something else out of the blue?

Speaker 5 (16:09):
Joining us?

Speaker 3 (16:09):
Now?

Speaker 5 (16:10):
Not line? Nobody better?

Speaker 1 (16:11):
The NFL Insider check him out on Odyssey one O
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who was up late celebrating the end of Aaron Rodgers
with the Jets. It is Jason Locking for what's happening?

Speaker 2 (16:23):
Bud?

Speaker 3 (16:24):
What's going on? Guys?

Speaker 5 (16:26):
Everyboddy? How are you?

Speaker 3 (16:27):
Man?

Speaker 5 (16:28):
I say so U listen tomorrow.

Speaker 1 (16:30):
Obviously like the two big names we're gonna talk about
o'vious seeing what happens with T Higgins and Sam Darnold.
Let's get to Sam Darnald first. You know, when we
talked about the situation with the franchise tag a month ago,
we thought, yeah, okay, here's a couple months ago. Yeah,
they're gonna wind up franchise and they're not gonna lose him.
But I'll tell you, Jay, after hearing Kevin O'Connell and
the way the Vikings are approaching this, I feel like

(16:50):
they're just gonna let him go go to free agency.

Speaker 5 (16:53):
And wish him good luck and it's gonna be JJ McCarthy.

Speaker 3 (16:56):
Yeah, I mean, I think it would be a surprising move,
and other executives around the league, especially in this climate
where there's not much quarterback capital out there, think it
would be an odd move not to at least put
a transition tag on him. I mean, I don't know

(17:17):
if that's splitting hairs with you know what O'Connell had
to say about, you know, not franchise tagging him. They
have a couple of weeks to continue to muld this over.
There's obviously still a chance that he gets into the
open market, and he's still at a price point that
they're willing to pay. But that's a pretty decent football

(17:40):
team and another full offseason with O'Connell and Darnold. I
think that would be a pretty enticing proposition for them.
And they don't know what they have in the other kid.
And like I got people tell me he's strong, his heck,

(18:00):
like people who've seen him, like, there's a lot of
work he's going to have to do. He missed a
lot of time just work on his body, let alone,
you know everything else that goes into being a starting quarterback,
and now a starting quarterback who's going to come in
and replace it. You know, it's not like he's the
guy that replaced you know Cousins after he was crippled,
and they rolled just Dobbs and you know whoever else

(18:22):
out there. They were competing for the best record in
the NFL, and Sam Donald had a top five quarterback
season in the regular season in this league. So I look,
there'll be a market for Donald, There's no doubt about that.
I'm not talking about a super long term deal or
anything like that, but I get this level of competitions,

(18:45):
He's going to do pretty well. And if Minnesota doesn't
tag him, then I believe if Matt Stafford's traded, Sam
Donald will end up in LA.

Speaker 4 (18:55):
With that said, now, who while the Stafford domino is
the the most interesting I think chess piece and all
of this, we talked about it with Kelly Stafford's comments,
We've we've chatted about it a little bit. Look, what's
what's a reasonable asking price in a marketplace and where
would be a likely destination.

Speaker 3 (19:17):
I mean, you know, it's if he's going to make
a commitment. You know, obviously this isn't a tampering situation.
If somebody's interested in securing Matt Stafford's services, that I
am sure of. The RAMS would allow permission to speak
to him, and I think if he's willing to commit
for a period of time and rework the contract in

(19:39):
a way that's to your liking. I mean, I you
look at what people like Derek Carr got, you know
what I mean, Like, it's it's got to be way
in excess on that on a short term deal, a
two or three year deal. Right, it's got to be
an excess of what Gino got in Seattle. I mean,

(20:03):
it's it's probably I think it's on part with what
Cousins did when he signed with the Vikings originally, right,
that sort of original three year, fully guaranteed deal. Not
the money's going to be more because a lot of
time has passed since then. But I think it's something
in terms of what it counts against the cap, it's

(20:24):
probably similar to that Cousins deal. Probably, you know a
little bit more. I mean as to whom I mean,
the guys in New York with the Giants are on
borrowed time, you know, where they ended up being able
to pick one might not be ideal, so that might
make sense for them. The Steelers, you know, could be

(20:51):
an interesting could be an interesting spot for him. I mean,
I think, you know, the Browns and Titans are probably
drafting him, but yeah, I mean the Raiders. I mean,
would you rather have Matt Stafford or Aaron Rodgers or
Russell Wilson?

Speaker 5 (21:08):
Right?

Speaker 3 (21:09):
I mean is that even a question? Is that even
we even bulling that? Like, that's Matt Stafford all day long?

Speaker 1 (21:15):
Yeah, this shows you how bad the crop of qbs
are is. Where we should be talking about Rogers and
Wilson retiring in the end of the and instead it's hey,
these guys, here are the five best fits for them.
It's like, wow, that's a really bad offseason for quarterbacks.

Speaker 3 (21:29):
We are, That's where we are, and that's why again,
if they do, just let Sam Donald. Look, at least
make somebody prime out of your hands, right, Like, at
least make somebody sign them to an offer sheet on
a transition tag. And now you've got five days to
sit on it and make them squirm. And while you're
making them squirm, other people, you know, are are ostensibly

(21:49):
coming off the market or other teams are going to
have to decide, you know what's going Okay, well, what
if he's here, what if he's not here? What are
we going to do? If they match. I mean, I
don't know. I mean, if the Ravens were willing to
do that with Lamar Jackson, you know, why would the
Vikings not do that? Here?

Speaker 4 (22:10):
But anyway, is Jason locking for with us one O
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Mike Harmon here from the tirak dot com Fox Sports
Radio Studios that takes us to Cincinnati. Joe Burrow Squeaky
Wheel trying to make sure that some Greece actually gets

(22:31):
used by the Cincinnati brass. T Higgins the first Domino
to fall. Does he get another franchise tag with a
hope that they can sign him long term or what
happens in his situation.

Speaker 3 (22:45):
I'll believe that when I say it, I mean it's
you talk about all that now, because you know you've
got two weeks to try to you know, when you
to make this decision, or you know, two more weeks
to basically exclusively negotiate with them before you lose that
for the league year and before everybody you know is
at the combine and then everybody's camping with everybody, Like

(23:07):
I think he'd be livid and outraged if it happened.
I think it would be really weird to just think
about what you could have got him for two years
ago and now basically playing fifty million dollars for two
years and then still you know, be at now bigger
risk than ever for him to walk after this year.
I mean, yes, it buys you until the middle of July,

(23:30):
but that didn't get him anywhere last year. And after
Jamar Chase gets his whatever he gets, Higgins is going
it's just going to continue to you know that rising
tide lifts all ships. I how do they let it
get to this point in the first place. If they
wanted these two around, why didn't you pay the free

(23:51):
a year ago or two years ago or both, and
you'd you'd be having them at over time a value
in a bargain compared to what you'd have to do
after two franchise tags for Higgins. And you know, Jamar
Chase getting this deep into his situation like it just
doesn't make any sense. It's it's all very counterintuitive. That's

(24:12):
why for me to hear them talking tough now about
a second bag, I mean, you're still trying to get
a deal done. You're trying to exert any leverage you have.
But I don't know. I mean, you'd be talking about
next year, you know what, one of them at twenty seven,
twenty eight, and then the other one's gonna want thirty something.

(24:35):
I mean, it can be done, but Mike Brown's the
guy to do it. I mean maybe, Well, it's.

Speaker 1 (24:40):
Like I got a theory on this, Jay and follow me,
follow me on this. Is that you know the Higgins thing? Yes,
you're right, they could have done if they really wanted to.
All of a sudden this offseason, Joe Burrow was standing
up saying, Okay, you need to keep keep the talent
coming in and keep us at the point where we're
going to compete, or if not, when my contract is up,
I'm gone.

Speaker 5 (24:59):
And I and.

Speaker 1 (25:00):
We didn't really start hearing about t Higgins until Joe
Burrow decided to say, Hey, I'll take less money, I'll
move some money around, I'll do this. I feel like
he's now at the point where now I can pressure
the Bengals into continuing to make us compete, and if not,
when his contract is up, it's hey, guess what I'm
going to hit free agency and it's going to be
the biggest free agent quarterback thing.

Speaker 2 (25:20):
In the years coming.

Speaker 3 (25:21):
That's coming. But that doesn't mean they're going to capitulate now.
I mean I've been writing about that in Washington Post
all season long. I mean, this has been telegraphed. This
has been orchestrated in telegraphed, and I wrote about it
months ago. It was going to come. This was going
to be the off season of Joe burrow ultimatums and
perhaps the off season of Joe Burrow's discontent. I don't

(25:43):
know how having those two guys at that price point, though,
when they need a rebuild offensive line and a rebuilt
defensive line, and if they pay those two, there's no
way in hell they're paying Hendrickson and the defense. This
was God lest they forget. They were putting up thirty
points the game and losing routinely because of the defense.
So I don't know. I maybe, but I don't know.

(26:13):
And Joe Burrows years away from his next extent, you know,
his next inflection point, and like they'll just franchise ty
Hit twice. Now. I do think this ends poortanly. I
do think this ends in Carson Palmer two point zero,
and I don't think we're there this offseason. I don't
think we're there for a couple of off seasons. But
I think he will feel let down, and at this point, honestly,

(26:35):
from a team building standpoint and where they are organizationally
and roster wise, and with how poorly they've drafted the
last couple of years, and with how often Joe Burrow's
been hurt, and with how middling their offensive line still
is and everything all three levels of defense, he'd hurt,
need help. And this quarterback is so good you should
be able to develop another wide receiver, not even one

(26:56):
who's taken in the first round like Higgins. Right, I mean,
isn't that part of the reason why you pay these
quarterbacks that much? So again, maybe they will tag them.
I'll believe it when I say it.

Speaker 1 (27:08):
He's on Twitter at Jason lock and four That is
at Jason lock and for Odyssey one, O five seven
the fan in Baltimore, Washington Post. Jay is always buddy,
appreciate it man, Happy franchise tag day.

Speaker 5 (27:18):
We'll talk to you next week.

Speaker 3 (27:20):
Thank you, Jason.

Speaker 1 (27:22):
I mean, I realized the more the time goes on
with the Vikings, just hearing the way Kevin O'Connell talks
two months ago. For sure, they're gonna tag them, They're
not gonna want to lose them. They're gonna make sense.
But just those two games at the end of the
year were just so bad that flipped the narrative. But
not only that, it gave the vikings and out to say, well,
we really don't want to have these two guys again.
We're postponing our future. Are we gonna stick with Donald?

(27:44):
Are we gonna go with JJ McCarthy. It's a mess,
and there's gotta be a little bit of relief. Weird
to say that, but a little bit of Okay, Donald
really was bad at the end, So if we said
goodbye to him, okay, it's not gonna be the big blowback.
We thought, We're not gonna look like we're saying goodbye
to a guy that's next level. If he won a
couple of games for us at the end, it would
have been a tougher decision. Now they haven't out, and

(28:04):
I feel like they're capitalized on that by every time
Kevin o'collis is yeah, great, Yeah, I love Sam, Sam, Hey,
Sam had a great year.

Speaker 5 (28:11):
Boy. We love JJ McCarthy loved you.

Speaker 1 (28:13):
I feel like if they were gonna franchise Sam darnodfore
they figured something else out, we would have heard that
by now. So they just seem eminently okay with We're
gonna let you at free agency and go find a
great deal someplace and and good luck. You were great
with us for a year, but we drafted JJ McCarthy
for a reason, So that's the way we're gonna go.

Speaker 5 (28:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (28:30):
The curiosity, right McCarthy, is there are all these reports
he was around the team and he's soaking everything up,
and they love that part of it. It's all just
a question of where he is physically right and can
you get him up to speed ready to go. You
and I both saw the Captain America movie over the weekend,
so the question is, you know.

Speaker 5 (28:50):
What's how do we bulk them up? How do we
get him ready to go?

Speaker 4 (28:53):
That's two knee surgeries, that's a lot of inactivity and CouchSurfing,
and you can only do so many simulations on video
games to give you any kind of value. We joked
about it and wonder allowed, well, can you find strike
lightning you know again?

Speaker 5 (29:09):
Can it strike again? With Daniel Jones, who.

Speaker 4 (29:12):
You added for a song. I think that's a big reach.
But potentially there you might think.

Speaker 5 (29:17):
You're the smartest guy in the room. After all, you
are the coach of the year. You're turning it up.
I mean, if you're saying about you're turning it over
to macarthy.

Speaker 3 (29:23):
You know.

Speaker 4 (29:24):
No, I don't say he may need to be that guy,
but you have to feel secure that he can, you know,
build that bridge for him to McCarthy.

Speaker 3 (29:32):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (29:32):
And it would really be painful in this quarterback economy
to watch Sam Darnold walk out the door to the
waiting arms of a Sean McVay or up to the
Bay Area for or whatever.

Speaker 1 (29:44):
They were just saying, the Sam Darnald free agency madness,
it's crazy gonna happen.

Speaker 5 (29:49):
No, but that's just it.

Speaker 1 (29:50):
Sam Wilson, Rogers and whatever happens, you would incur and
the other three guy down, they're not even close. A
year ago you tell me, hey, the biggest name and
he free agency is gonna be Sam Donald and the
and the frenzy to get him is gonna be huge.

Speaker 5 (30:05):
I'd say, come on, man, this is not this earth.

Speaker 4 (30:09):
I mean, he can show back up as a giant
save Brian Dable and Shane in the same locker room.

Speaker 5 (30:17):
That he failed in before.

Speaker 1 (30:19):
Time Now to find out what's trending in the wide
world of sports for a man who's been called the
Sam Darnold of Fox Sports Radio. Took him a few years,
but wow, look how good he was last year. It's
Steve Desager.

Speaker 6 (30:30):
Yeah, let's just forget about week eighteen.

Speaker 1 (30:34):
I do want to talk to you about your your
final two weeks of the regular season performance.

Speaker 5 (30:37):
Yeah, that's not.

Speaker 6 (30:38):
Gonna come up in negotiations in the offseason. Very good
in the least. We got two minutes left in regulation
at Hockey's Four Nations faceoff game in Boston. Now the
Americans two to zero in this mini tournament. We're up
one nothing after the first minute. They've been down two
to one since the first period to Sweden, which has
a couple overtime losses in this tourney. Each team, the
way it works, has three tournament games. The US is

(31:00):
ending the round robin portion tonight. We know with the
two wins to start, the Americans will be in the
Thursday night finale, the championship game against Canada, which today
advanced with a five to three victory over Finland. It
was for nothing in the third period. Backup Jake Ottinger
started in goal for the US tonight under two minutes
to go, and now the goalie is taking a seat.

(31:21):
Extra attacker on.

Speaker 5 (31:22):
Sweden starting for the mister free Let's go. He was
in a couple of Batman episodes?

Speaker 6 (31:30):
Is right a revenger the old director Jake Ottinger, No,
thank you, but no NHL All Star.

Speaker 5 (31:40):
Catchpole?

Speaker 6 (31:40):
Uh?

Speaker 5 (31:41):
In Harry Potter, I think you're right.

Speaker 6 (31:44):
Uh. The NHL is off as a league for almost
two weeks until this Saturday. There is no NHL All
Star Game this year because of this tournament.

Speaker 5 (31:51):
As you mentioned.

Speaker 6 (31:52):
Meanwhile, we had that smashing NBA All Star weekend is
finally concluded last night. They're off until Wednesday's makeup game
Hornets at Lakers. Most NBA teams return to play on
Thursday night. In men's college basketball, about three weeks left
in the regular season. Number three ranked Duke is twenty
three and three after winning at Virginia easily tonight eighty

(32:14):
to sixty two, and at Baylor, the Bears have had
twenty two to nineteen in the first half against nineteenth
ranked Arizona. Auburn is ranked number one for the sixth
straight week. Florida up to number two. Coming up Friday
night on Fox TV. Number twelve, Michigan hosts number fourteen
Michigan State. The A's gave manager Mark Kotse a three
year extension. Mike Trout of the Angels is switching to

(32:35):
right field to try to stay healthy after fourteen years
in center field. He'll also dh a little.

Speaker 3 (32:41):
Then.

Speaker 6 (32:41):
The Bengals planned a franchise tag wide receiver T Higgins
again this year and in Miami at Kansas City Soccer
game has been moved from Tuesday to Wednesday due to snow.
It'll still be about five degrees on Wednesday night, but
no snow. Game two of that series will be in
Fort Lauderdale next week in about seventy degree weather.

Speaker 1 (32:59):
But Galaxy even had their parade to win the championship,
yet we're already starting the next season.

Speaker 6 (33:04):
Actually, they did have their moment. I don't think there
was any parading going on. There was no movement. There
was just a stage and people cheering after they won
the MLS title. But yes, the MLS regular season does
begin this Saturday with Lionel Messi and Miami hosting New
York City. But this tournament opening series I was mentioning
in the CONCACAFF Champions Cup. That's Attorney. That includes ten

(33:26):
Major league soccer teams. So Messi's gonna play the coldest
game of his career at Kansas City on Wednesday.

Speaker 5 (33:32):
Back to you, Thank you, Steve O.

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Speaker 5 (33:52):
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(34:43):
And no I'm not even talking about oh the Aaron Judge,
Wan Soto stuff.

Speaker 5 (34:46):
No, no, stuff like.

Speaker 1 (34:47):
Is whoa this could big time effect the season and
teams just getting to camp. First things first with the
Yankees Jim Carlos Stanton. Right now, I'm waiting for the
a bulletin that says he's done for the season. He
has not swung a bat in a month. He has
really bad injuries to both of his elbows, and a

(35:10):
timetable for his return has not been put out there.
This reminds me so much of the joint assessmentis oh yeah,
calcified heels. No, guess what I'm out for the whole year,
Like you're in spring training and his elbows are this bat?
His elbows are bad. He can't swing a bat. What
kind of season is he really gonna happen?

Speaker 4 (35:28):
He laid through it last year so we're always trying
to find clarity, right, there's always the story behind the scenes, right.
I remember in Chicago Frank Thomas was having an awful season.
You started to hear whispers of what was going on
in his personal life. I remember actually having that question
posed to me by Bill Russell at a book signing. Yes,

(35:48):
that's the basketball player of the baseball play the basketball,
the legend, and then we ended up. He asked me
to sit behind the table. We talked White Sox, baseball
and just baseball in general. He continued to sign books.
Very strange, but you don't know what's what's going on,
and with Stanton, all of a sudden, it's like.

Speaker 5 (36:05):
Wow, you played through it last year.

Speaker 4 (36:07):
You get to spring training and you've had what is it,
five months, and you're still at a level where you
can't get things started, just light hitting, light workouts. Yeah,
big problem for the end, Like, really, I'm not going
to be surprised to find out he's out for the
year at some point, or that he's going to be
out for a long time. They don't know when he's
gonna come back, and you're thinking all Star break where

(36:29):
and then you find out at some point in the spring.

Speaker 5 (36:31):
Hey, he's not gonna able to play this show? What's
the injury?

Speaker 3 (36:35):
Like?

Speaker 4 (36:35):
This is different, right, Like we're used to torn labraams and
shoulder injuries and always think elbow injury for a for
an outfield.

Speaker 2 (36:43):
Double elbow injury, right, yeah, but both right?

Speaker 5 (36:45):
Like, so, what's going on?

Speaker 4 (36:46):
We got some nerve stuff we got uh, just repetitive
stress disorders. Had has gotten that bad. I'm just curious.
This is just a new one on the on the radar.

Speaker 1 (36:57):
Who Uh, so the Yankees could be without a guy
really need after a big deal.

Speaker 5 (37:02):
Let want Sodo go, Hey, we're counting on you. Nope,
I mean it.

Speaker 1 (37:05):
I'm not gonna be surprised to find out he's gonna
eventually be out for the year. Now, maybe you can
replace him, because potentially there could be a big time
all star player with a three hundred million dollar contract
who wants out.

Speaker 3 (37:17):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (37:18):
A few days ago, Red Sox signed Alex Pregman, right,
three year, hundred twenty million dollar contract. Yeah right, sure,
you're talking about someone who still hits somewhat elitely, still
plays incredibly elite third base.

Speaker 5 (37:29):
Great signing problem is.

Speaker 1 (37:32):
You already had a pretty good guy you gave three
hundred million.

Speaker 5 (37:36):
Dollars to a couple of years ago. Rafael Devers is terrific.

Speaker 1 (37:40):
He's twenty eight and he's twenty eight, right, it's not
even Bregman's thirty one twenty eight, but.

Speaker 4 (37:44):
But he's twenty eight and really just kind of getting
finally getting his leg.

Speaker 5 (37:49):
Yeah, yeah, no, if I'm feeling good about things.

Speaker 1 (37:52):
And his reaction after getting Alex Bregman was third base
is my position. Quote, It's what I play. I don't
know what their plans are. We had a conversation. I
made it clear on what my desires were. Whatever happens
from here, I don't know. He was asked he's willing
to become a DH. Dever said no before his interpreter

(38:14):
even asked him the question able to say. He just said,
you're the DH. He sounds like he's he's he He
would if you had a choice, Hey, would you rather
be out somewhere else and play third base? His answer
would be yes, Like he does not. This does not
sound like this is gonna be some kind of sunshine
lollipops and Rainbow's answer, where Hey, we're gonna figure things out.

(38:34):
You'll DH a little bit and this is on the
Red Sox for not knowing their player. He gave him
three hundred million dollars. You gotta know, right, you gotta
know what what the reaction is. Ah, we'll figure it out,
we'll figure it out. Now it's gonna be, Oh, you're
gonna ask a gold glover from third to move from
third base? Okay, that's gonna wind up being. The situation
is that they're gonna have to If he's saying I'm
not moving, I'm not moving, he's gonna be a problem

(38:55):
and he's not gonna be happy, and he's not gonna
play well, and he's not gonna hit because a happy
player a good player, and he is not gonna be happy.
So now it's gonna be bregmant to move, and it's
like why you hey, this guy's money. Not now he's
gonna move, He's gonna go play some play. The guy's
a better fielder, right, the guy's a better fielder. The
Red Sox are in up huge quandary right now, and
I wouldn't be surprised if this comes to it. You

(39:16):
don't know what Bregman's gonna field. Wait, something, I gotta move,
Like how much was that the conversation, Yeah, you might
play second base.

Speaker 5 (39:21):
Whoa whoa, whoa whoa whoa, whoa whoa.

Speaker 1 (39:24):
If I'm a team that needs a third baseman, I'm
calling the Red Sox tonight and saying, hey, uh you
got an issue there, we'll take on that contract.

Speaker 5 (39:31):
What do you want?

Speaker 2 (39:31):
Which guy are you more?

Speaker 3 (39:32):
Do you want?

Speaker 5 (39:33):
Stressed about?

Speaker 3 (39:33):
Right?

Speaker 5 (39:33):
Yeah, what do you want?

Speaker 4 (39:34):
The guy you just signed and introduced or the guy
that was already there?

Speaker 1 (39:38):
Well, you're paying You're paying devs more money over a
longer period of time, So I would think, and he's
the guy more upset. I would think he's the guy
more available.

Speaker 4 (39:45):
Well, but it becomes the all right, you just spin
off break. We like you, you're younger and like not
not quite the fielder, and all of those things that
certainly you figure out the metrics and where where that
comes together.

Speaker 5 (40:00):
But yeah, it's like, oh wow, what a great signing.

Speaker 4 (40:04):
And then this story drops of hey no, I'm not
moving like that guy. Wait what Okay, like you said,
I'm not dhing, I'm not doing this like wow.

Speaker 1 (40:13):
You got to know your player and you had to
know that this was going to be the response if
you went after Alex pregnant and you went after him anyway,
And Okay, good luck now because now you have now
it's a thing. Now this has become a thing, and
you have to find a way to make it work.
And you have one guy that's not happy already, and
you may have another guy that's not happy. You have
two guys who aren't happy.

Speaker 5 (40:32):
It's fantastic.

Speaker 4 (40:33):
And then you got the Angels where you take a
guy who used to be a gold gloved centerfielder. I'm
moving the right field. Why maybe I can stay healthy?

Speaker 1 (40:40):
Uh, that is a different topic we'll get into next time.
About that for a metal standard baseball even make it
to the top three, Nope. But coming up next we
will ask the biggest question coming off of NBA All
Star Weekend.

Speaker 5 (40:54):
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