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Jason Smith explains why he’s rooting for the Cavaliers if the Knicks don't win. The guy's welcome College Football Guru Pete Fiutak in for all things NFL Combine, Shedeur Sanders, Abdul Carter and Travis Hunter. And the Philadelphia Eagles are expected to go all in on Myles Garrett!

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 1 (00:29):
Hello, Welcome in Side hour two, Jason Smith's Show with
my best friend Mike Harmon.

Speaker 3 (00:34):
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Speaker 4 (00:40):
I'm giving my best Fozzy Bear? It sounded I watched
the Buppet movie earlier.

Speaker 1 (00:45):
It sounded like I was at a party and you
were passed out and then you heard your name and
you just said something like, oh what.

Speaker 3 (00:53):
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What do you need? Bears? Wait for rest, Wait up,
Bears Win, Bears Win, Watch out for the hell? Mary?
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Speaker 4 (01:03):
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Uh so we'll get to big another big quarterback story today.
We have Pete Futech coming up in about twenty minutes. Hey,

(01:28):
we're gonna talk combine all the quarterbacks.

Speaker 3 (01:30):
What happens now?

Speaker 1 (01:31):
Nobody better than our greatest college football annals to stop by,
but really quick, I want to say this, right, the
big marquee game of the night in the NBA, Cavaliers
were down like twenty five to two win this game
against the Celtics, and they came back to win one
twenty three to one sixteen. Yeah, and I'm not saying Look, yes,
the Celtics are missing a couple of starters.

Speaker 3 (01:50):
It's fine.

Speaker 1 (01:51):
Right, we talked about this last hour that I have
to just come to grips and accept that this is
going to be the Eastern Conference Finals, right, that the Cleveland, Boston,
Oklahoma City are just on a tier above everybody else.

Speaker 5 (02:02):
But I ask you this, Yeah, if not the Knicks,
am I okay to adopt the Cavaliers Because Donovan Mitchell
is as big a Mets fan as I am.

Speaker 3 (02:13):
Am I No, no, he is one of Yeah, he's
one of you.

Speaker 1 (02:16):
I mean when he said the other day, Hey, how
can I find today's Mets spring training game on TV?
I was like, Okay, he's not just a guy that's like, hey,
I like the Mets and no, no, no, he's a
well I'm trying to find where's that spring training game.
I'm wanting to find that. I want to find the game. No, no, no,
I know he's real. No, I know he's he's real.
He's an og Mets fan. So yeah, so I'm gonna

(02:37):
I'm gonna root for them just because it's like it'd
be like the Mets winning.

Speaker 4 (02:40):
H There's so many pictures of him out there, there's
no question about it.

Speaker 3 (02:44):
In the Mets jersey.

Speaker 4 (02:46):
I'm looking at an eBay auction right now of a
Donovan Mitchell New York Mets batting practice authentic jersey.

Speaker 1 (02:53):
Ooh, how much is it? Is it like seventy five bucks?
Like what is one hundred and seventy five?

Speaker 3 (02:58):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (03:01):
If he played for the Knicks, I could see myself
get But that's that's a tough one to wear.

Speaker 3 (03:05):
But it's a Mets jersey that says Mitchell forty I know, well,
I know people go, wait, is that a is that
an old school Kevin Mitchell Metz jersey? You're wearing this? Mate? No, no, no,
Donovan Mitchell Mitchell. I mean it would look good. I
mean yeah, yeah.

Speaker 4 (03:21):
Yeah, that's you know, they made it up after his
uh his visit. I mean it's not obviously his, but no,
you know it's one hundred and seventy five bucks.

Speaker 3 (03:30):
You see, here's the first All right, I'll take you.
I'll take the curtain down here for a second.

Speaker 1 (03:36):
Let you know, like, could I go on eBay and
buy yet another Mets hoodie? And when it comes my
wife goes, did you buy another Mets hoodie?

Speaker 3 (03:47):
Like I can justify it.

Speaker 1 (03:48):
And say yeah, I go. You know, I I bid
on it and I got him down. It's seven bucks
for this Adidas Mets hoodie seven shape seven dollars and
with shipping and handling, it was like four dollars. Like
I can sell that, like I can sell my wife
and show ah fine, like she.

Speaker 3 (04:04):
Won't be thrilled. But in the end it's like, okay,
I spend fourteen dollars on.

Speaker 1 (04:07):
A hoodie, like on a big hoodie that in the store,
if it's brand new, is like eighty five dollars, right,
so I can sell that.

Speaker 3 (04:14):
You have to show receipts. I could sell. Oh no, no, no,
well she knows, well she she she looks. The banking
isn't I can't. I don't.

Speaker 1 (04:21):
I don't have like a separate hidden banking account. What
do you what do you think I am some high roller?

Speaker 3 (04:26):
No, put it in the hidden bank account.

Speaker 1 (04:27):
That's I buy all my met stuff from the hidden
bank account that I have cash only.

Speaker 3 (04:33):
Baby. Come on. My wife would say to me, Hey,
you know what if you could figure out how to
open your own bank account by yourself, Hey, do whatever
you want. Because I and I was like, yeah, you're right,
I can't do it. Yeah, I couldn't do it. I
couldn't do it.

Speaker 4 (04:45):
Wow, you know Okay, well that's an indictment on you.

Speaker 3 (04:49):
Hey, oh no, but that but that's me.

Speaker 1 (04:51):
Like we we went to uh went to get our
taxes done about a month ago, and and uh we've
been going to our accounting for the for the last
ten years. Great guy, we every time we go. He
was a huge Rams fan and and I'm a huge
Lakers fan. And we talk sports all the time. And
he says, hey, you know what, watching we talk TV.
You know you talk TV. Hey, what are you watching now?
He say, I just started watching this show Shrinking, And

(05:13):
I said, oh, I love Stray Shrinking so much fun
I love that show. And I said, you know it's funny.
My wife and I were actually talking about you a
couple of weeks ago. And he said why and I said,
because there's this part in Shrinking where you know the
whole the whole hook of the show is is Jason
Siegel's wife has died. She's been dead for a couple
of years, and now the show opens with him trying
to put his life back together. He's a psychologist and

(05:35):
a psychiatrist, and you know Harrison works with Harrison Ford
and everything. And there's a scene where he talks to
somebody else who's whose husband died, and they were having
a conversation and they said, what's something that you didn't
realize you didn't know how to do until after your
significant other died? And Jason Siegel says, oh, I didn't
know how to I didn't know how to pay the mortgage,
Like I had no idea how to pay my mortgage.

(05:57):
And I was like wow, and I thought about that.
I turned to Pam, And I said, if you were
hit the one, I would have no idea how to
pay taxes. I would have no idea. I would have
no idea what paperwork to get. I wouldn't know any idea.
I know, what do you need? What do you need
for me? What do I need to get? What kind
of bills?

Speaker 3 (06:12):
Like? Pam takes care of all of it. And and
our account looked at me.

Speaker 1 (06:16):
And said and said, Jason, I'm gonna tell you something
that I think you probably know already.

Speaker 3 (06:19):
I said, what's that?

Speaker 1 (06:20):
He goes, I love, you know, talking to you every
year when you come we a great He's a really
good guy. And he goes love when you come here,
talking all the time, I have a great time. And
I but I will always tell you the same thing.
Never come here by yourself.

Speaker 3 (06:34):
I questioned.

Speaker 4 (06:35):
A lot of the seat that you're handing in, always
find your wife with you.

Speaker 3 (06:39):
It's always bringer up.

Speaker 4 (06:40):
So what you're saying is I would be hired in
an emergency if necessary.

Speaker 3 (06:45):
Oh yeah, Harmon. I don't know. I don't know what
to do. I don't know. There's so many things that
I would know what to do.

Speaker 1 (06:50):
I wouldn't know how I would have to say, Okay,
is this bill paid electronically?

Speaker 3 (06:53):
I have no idea. I'd like, I really don't know.
But taxing, no way, taxes, what do you plan this weekend?
Noddy and't even know he paid the taxes. We're good, No, no,
forget about the taxes. Now it's time the other stuff.

Speaker 4 (07:05):
You know, the electricity, water bills, property taxes, all of
those things. Make sure that they're going to the right
places and those are set up.

Speaker 3 (07:15):
I'll make you, I'll make you a master list of
things you should be considering.

Speaker 1 (07:19):
Yeah, like I would, I really, I would have no
idea where to begin on so many things. But that's
like right off the right off the bat. I'm like,
tax like, what do you need? Like, I would have
no idea? What what do you need? Tell me everything
you need?

Speaker 3 (07:30):
The brass tax though, buddy, you know how to make
a sandwich? Right? I don't know? Yeah, that's okay, Yeah
you'll that'd be all right? Yeah? Or order of sand
would you'll be all right?

Speaker 1 (07:38):
That's why my dad says that that's the best part
of best part of being retired of the simplest.

Speaker 3 (07:43):
Tax return of the WARLD my dad.

Speaker 1 (07:47):
My dad says me and the government are even. I
don't give them anything, they don't give me anything. That's
the way I like it. That's that's my dad's big
thing about taxes.

Speaker 4 (07:57):
Well, just as I always say every year, if the
government's giving you a bunch of money back, you know
April or whatever that means, you let them have it
for nothing.

Speaker 3 (08:06):
All year long. PEX it out about a Fresca exit
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Speaker 1 (08:15):
So we got Pete Futech coming up in about ten minutes.
All the biggest from the combine, all the quarterbacks are speaking.

Speaker 3 (08:20):
Now.

Speaker 1 (08:20):
You saw headlines today from everybody. Cam Ward said the
other day, I'm not going to work out. You have
six years of tape on me. You should be able
to see what you need to see. Dylan Gabriel said,
height doesn't matter. I can still get it done. And
then we at your door. Sanders, who Now things are
starting to get a little interesting because you thought he
was heading to the Giants. It was a fade of

(08:42):
complete but the Giants really went all in to try
to get Matthew Stafford. Is shador Sanders still someone who
top of the draft is going to wind up going well.
He had a message for everybody the top of the draft.
It was basically, draft me because I'm great.

Speaker 3 (08:57):
Take a listen.

Speaker 6 (08:58):
We went from Jackson State to Colorado and changed two
programs back to back.

Speaker 3 (09:03):
So you don't think I could come to NFL franchise
and change the program again. It's history. We've done it again.
It's always gonna repeat it.

Speaker 1 (09:10):
So see, I love that. I love that swagger. History
is always gonna repeat itself. Here I am. I did
it here, I'll do it there. And that was the
gist of a lot of stuff he said. He was
really full of swagger and a lot of confidence in himself,
which you have to have as a quarterback, right, especially
if you're going to be somewhere in a big market

(09:31):
and someone who wants the bullseye on them like Shador
Sanders does.

Speaker 3 (09:36):
Right.

Speaker 1 (09:36):
He talked about how the haters have fueled me and
my dad for years and everything has been going the
way it is because there's doubters and I always want
to prove them wrong. And you got to have that
kind of fire and that kind of motivation, right, So
I don't I think that's a real positive I know
that could turn some people of Oh the guys believe
you know what, all athletes now everybody always believed how

(09:59):
good they are. Athletes now are just okay with telling
you about it. And it still is a little weird
to hear because sometimes they go a little overboard, but overall, yeah,
this is kind of what athletes they want to tell
you all great and they're trying to sell themselves here
at the here at the combine.

Speaker 3 (10:12):
Take me number one, I should go number one.

Speaker 1 (10:14):
It's like politicians telling you why they should vote for him.

Speaker 3 (10:17):
Well, I like this Canada anyway.

Speaker 1 (10:18):
Well, they still got to tell you why to vote
for him, because everybody needs to know. But I'll tell
you this right to take in a different direction with
Shador Sanders, I'll tell you what makes me nervous about
him is that.

Speaker 3 (10:31):
When things are going well, he's terrific.

Speaker 1 (10:36):
But when he's had to handle adversity the last two years,
it's been an eye opener, and he is not handled adversity. Well,
he's he's a guy that when they had that bad
game against Nebraska, right when he got sacked a lot
and they lost, and you thought this is the end
of the Colorado season, it was all and looka and

(10:57):
they bounced back, obviously, but you thought, this is it,
this is it? What did you get from Shadora Sanders
The next week? You know, it was all how many
times a ray Ola get touched? You know, the quarterback
in Nebraska? Of course that's what's gonna happen. Man, Come on,
I can't can't complete passes when I'm on my back, Like,
whoa one bad guy? And you're throwing the offensive line
under the bus. Really, like, dude, you can't do that

(11:18):
in the NFL. Like, you can't do that, and nobody
does that in college. Sure enough, You're not gonna be
able to do that in the NFL. You know, he
kind of when things weren't winning, he withdraws from the
public eye a little bit. You can see and sense
his frustration, and that's kind of a red flag.

Speaker 3 (11:36):
Man.

Speaker 1 (11:36):
The one thing I would say about him is that
everything else is great. The way he stands in the pocket.
How bleeping tough that guy is. Man, Oh my goodness,
he might be the toughest quarterback that I've seen in
years in college football. The way he stands in delivers
the ball gets hit like he's got so many great things,
but the one. And I'm just getting excited thinking about
it right now because now I think maybe he could

(11:56):
drop to number seven for the Jets. But like, but
the thing is is that you gotta you know, you're
gonna get punched in the mouth in the NFL, and
you gotta be a leader in handle adversity. And I
did not see a lot of public when things were
bad for Colorado. Here's how I handle it. Like Dion
was the guy that said, hey, I will take all
the arrows and the attention because it's what a head

(12:18):
coach is supposed to do.

Speaker 3 (12:19):
Right.

Speaker 1 (12:19):
You can do that in college because you're the face
of the program, as big star as we are in
college football, the head coach is the star of the program,
especially when it's Dion Sanders. Right, you could have Heisman Trophy,
but Dion's still the star of the program. And that worked,
and that worked because that was able to overshadow and
let your door kind of operate a little bit more

(12:40):
without that big glare, harsh spotlight on him. But still
you were able to see when things were bad. Chadr
Sanders says, whoa are you just walking away from responsibility?
You get to the NFL, it's great if the coach says, hey,
this is my fault, doesn't matter. It's not like everybody says, yeah,
that's great, quarterback, what happened to you?

Speaker 3 (12:58):
What is this all about? Right?

Speaker 1 (13:00):
You get a head coach can say all the right things.
John Harbaugh can say all the right things in the world.
He can say, this is my fault. I didn't do
this right. But hey, Lamar Jackson lost again. How do
you handle Lamar Jackson? This was your fault. Jim Harbaugh
can say all the best things in the world, all
the culture he's built with the Chargers, how great. But
if they loose poist Justin Herbert, what happened to you?

Speaker 3 (13:21):
Man?

Speaker 1 (13:21):
How did you let this happen? That's how it goes
in the NFL. Whoever winds up coaching Shador Sanders can
sit there and try to take the attent, but it
doesn't matter. It's gotta be Sanders handling it. That's the
one big red flag I have is that you see
him say today and all the bravado, all the bluster,
but when things go bad, is he still gonna be
that guys? He's still gonna be that leader? Or is

(13:43):
it gonna be someone that starts pointing the finger, because
that's what we saw in college, and that doesn't poortend
to Hey, hey, everything will be fine in the pros
and I'm not gonna do this. That's the one thing
that makes me nervous about him.

Speaker 4 (13:54):
Well, I think you'll have a locker room of guys
in the pros that that aren't gonna stand for it. Right,
you're the biggest show in town, and how you go
is everything else?

Speaker 1 (14:04):
You know?

Speaker 4 (14:04):
In his time in Colorado, so nobody was gonna speak
out against it. If his dad didn't, nobody else would.
So now you go to the pros. Hey, everybody's got
a podcast, right, isn't that the joke anymore? Everybody talks
to reporters. We've got anonymous sources. That's why we have
all these insiders running around and fighting for our attention.

Speaker 3 (14:25):
I will fight you with Starbucks over Shador Sanders. I
will fight for you but and your information.

Speaker 4 (14:32):
But all that to say, if your's questions of you know,
how much of a grown up he is with this stuff,
it'll get answered pretty fast. In the NFL, there's no
question about that. He's handled a lot of adversity physically.
We watched that bludgeon time and again. The stuff with
the O line will not fly, no matter how great

(14:54):
a Christmas gift you give them, which has become the
norm for so many guys. But all of that is,
you know, we've seen him stand tall in the pocket.
We've seen him wait for plays to develop. Some wonder
if he waits too long, too slow and deliberately. You know,
that's for each team to kind of decide, you know,
as as we get into this. But you saw a

(15:14):
lot of positive things on the field, the Hubris and
it's it's part of the equation, like you said, a
new athlete, just like Timothy Shallomey. What was that the
SAG Awards. Yeah, I'm looking to be great, Like this
is a good start. I'm really happy to win this award.
I love you all, I love all my fellow nominees.
But look, I'm looking to be a legend.

Speaker 1 (15:33):
Right the college football games he picked right, come on, man,
the guy was it was all things.

Speaker 3 (15:40):
Anything's coming up shallow may Man and man, I have
invited him and invited him.

Speaker 4 (15:44):
I'm sending two a week going Shawshanks style for the
rest of the year, especially after he wins the Oscar
on Sunday. But all of that to say, you know,
Shador and many others you know in the sporting realm
are doing the same thing. It takes hubris and a
little bit of bravado, sometimes unwarranted to do the job

(16:05):
we do for many people and the jobs they're in.
You gotta be able to stand up and take the
slings and arrows, and we've certainly seen Shadur do that
has he bristled at times.

Speaker 3 (16:16):
Sure, but what do you do.

Speaker 4 (16:18):
You gotta get back in, get back under center, and
those aren't going anywhere. For all the Lebron complaining about
what people say about the NBA, I think you should
go read some of the mentions of all the quarterbacks
and coaches across the NFL. I think he'd be pleasantly
surprised at how similar these worlds are.

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(16:55):
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Speaker 2 (17:02):
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Speaker 3 (17:23):
Day two of the combine in full swing, Quarterbacks or talk,
and everybody's thinking what's gonna happen.

Speaker 1 (17:28):
Early on in the draft? Joining us now on the
hot line. Nobody better to break it all down than
the owner, editor, proprietor of College Footballnews dot Com. You're
one stop shopping for everything college football. He's on Twitter
at petefeutech. It is Pete Feutech Pete. Now, before we
start with any college football I want to know all

(17:48):
the combines you've been to over the course of your career.
Have you ever nearly, almost or gotten in a fight
with somebody out of Starbucks or another coffee place like
Coffee mean.

Speaker 6 (18:00):
I have never actually been to the combat, which is
kind of crazy. I should I'm driving distance from this thing.
Let's think you said a decent job on NFL networking.
You have to watch it, but I just just branch
out to heavy. Have you ever been to a fight
in a Starbucks or a coffee bean?

Speaker 4 (18:18):
No?

Speaker 6 (18:18):
I don't think so.

Speaker 4 (18:21):
Yeah, he's not over yet, Pete.

Speaker 1 (18:25):
Hey, wait, wait, did I get into that with with
mel kiper at Seattle's Best?

Speaker 3 (18:29):
I forget where it was. Hang on, I don't I
don't really know. I don't know.

Speaker 6 (18:32):
Yeah, exactly. No, I'm hoping. I'm open for all of it.
And and look, you know it's you. You're the one
who said Lamar Jackson should have been a receiver. A
big trouble.

Speaker 1 (18:43):
Then all will look well, let's start with what we've
heard the last couple of days. All the quarterbacks are talking,
and you know, Shador Sanders said today, I'm going to
change franchises. History is going to repeat itself. What happened
to Colorado's gonna happen in the NFL. I mean, Pete,
I love so much about him, I said a few
minutes ago.

Speaker 3 (19:02):
The only thing is he's a great front runner.

Speaker 1 (19:05):
When things got dicey, he really started pointing fingers at
Colorado that That's.

Speaker 3 (19:09):
The only thing that really makes.

Speaker 1 (19:11):
Me have pause about Shadora Sanders. How do you see
him translating at the next level.

Speaker 6 (19:16):
I actually do the flip side of that. I actually
think he's underappreciated for basically taking a beating game in
and game out, even when they were down, he would
stay in there and he would keep fighting.

Speaker 3 (19:29):
And oh he's tough shot. He is.

Speaker 6 (19:32):
I don't think he gets enough credit for being just
really really tough. Now, is he going to be that
guy where, you know, if things go wrong, he's not
gonna believe it? I don't think so. I think he's
going to be professional. I mean, you know, that's the
thing about Scudy Dion is that for all the flash
and all the Prime and all blah blah blah, to

(19:52):
a teammate, he's always been known as, you know, the
most professional guy out there.

Speaker 2 (19:57):
You know.

Speaker 6 (19:58):
Obviously he had you know, incidents and things, you know,
Tim McCarver and things like that, but in terms of,
you know, on the field, in terms of being a professional,
you know, Prime has always been you know, first rate,
you know, and so I think that's going to be
Chador too. I like him back I think there's there's
a little backlash, I think a little bit because he's
a little too you know, you know, cocky and crime

(20:21):
and the on. And also but he's got it. I
mean he's I mean that that Colorado team didn't have
much of anything when it started. He certainly didn't have
an offensive line, and he stayed out there. And again,
I do not think he gets enough credit for being
as tough as he is. And we know he's a
rookie quarterback and a bad team. You're gonna have to
get used to getting hit a lot, and I don't

(20:43):
think that's gonna face him. I this is not a
great quarterback draft, but I do like him, and I
like him better than cam Ward, and I certainly like
him better than all the free agent options out there
that you're gonna spend forty million on to get Pete.

Speaker 4 (20:57):
Let's stay with his teammate Travis Hunter. A lot of
questions next level and what he is. He's working out
at the combine as a cornerback, but at the pro level,
I mean, is he nothing more than a decoy as
a wide receiver, you know, like Norman Dale wanted to
use Chitwood on the final play or he got.

Speaker 3 (21:13):
It could be viable.

Speaker 6 (21:16):
Am I allowed to get it? And that's it. By
the way, when we get in the deep roots of it,
you got to give me on a Friday, and I
don't like mid June when nothing else is going on.
And we'll get into my Normandale's the most overrated coach
of all time. He doesn't get fifteen out there, fifteen
doesn't show up, that's he's not going. He's fired, gone.
We never hear of Normandale again.

Speaker 3 (21:36):
But he got fifteen.

Speaker 1 (21:37):
He went his own personal nil was Myra, Barbara Hershy.

Speaker 3 (21:41):
He went to Myra, he got him in. That's what
great coaches do.

Speaker 2 (21:44):
And then I took that nine on.

Speaker 6 (21:46):
You bought this. You know, in recruiting, you go to
the person who can do gets done. And he did
not sell Myra. That is underappreciated for what I digret.
But yeah, look I've been wrong about Travis Hunter. I
think I came on this. I said whatever you know,
six seven months ago whatever it was, and said, there's

(22:07):
no way to know how Sager might There's no chance
Travis Hunter wins the hindsman. You know, so I'm just
going to continue to make wrong statements about Travis Hunter.
I guess if he's the number one pick, it's a
bad draft. It just he's he's not gonna go number one.
I think people, I think people as long as they
don't get freaked out about the foot Abuel Carter is

(22:29):
your number one. But uh, he's going to be a
top three guy. But you know what is he is?

Speaker 3 (22:36):
He is?

Speaker 6 (22:37):
He in a weak shutdown corner. He's very good. I
just I don't know if he's that guy though, who's
going to just change your franchise around in a rate
one side of the field like you know Prime did?

Speaker 3 (22:49):
Uh?

Speaker 6 (22:49):
In terms of receiver, you know, where's the where's the
superstar cop? For him? I don't have it, Quay. He's
a very good, high volume receiver. I don't know if
he's going to be that one of one of receiver.
Who is you know, you just he's not gonna be
Jamar Chaser, you know, Jefferson or you know. I just

(23:10):
don't see him being that guy. I think he's extremely
good obviously at both I just if you would give
him one position and say that's that's worthy of a
top five pick. I'm not there. And then when he's
holding the Super Bowl MVP trophy up next year, I'll
be boxed for this. So I just don't see. I'm
just not there with him. Collaween professional. That's another guy

(23:34):
from this Colorado thing, which again underappreciated. He is a
smart guy, great in the classrooms. Under professional. You're not
gonna have problems with Travis Hunter.

Speaker 3 (23:44):
Wow. So so if what I'm catching your drift here
is now Travis Hunter, all the great things he did,
you don't like him. So Jimmy chittwould all the great
things he did, he was overrated to and Hoosiers like
they really could have gotten by with Merlin ray Mayd
taking all the shots.

Speaker 6 (23:59):
Oh no, I'm all for the idea of that's Brady,
you know, and here's no Bill Belichick without Tom Brady.
So you know, look again, you take Chipwood off that team,
you know, it's just there again, they're they're five hundred
at best, and they just they're not going on you know, alwa,
he's not coming in there as you're sixth man and
saving the day when you need it out there. So no,

(24:21):
it was all fifteen.

Speaker 1 (24:22):
Hey what do you, uh, what do you what do
you think of hey, because we haven't gotten into this
yet tonight what you well in a bit, but what
do you think of North Carolina doing the off season
hard Knocks?

Speaker 6 (24:33):
Well, the weird part about it is Bill Belichick strangely,
really really entertaining. He's for being Bill Belichick. He's a
funny guy. He just doesn't come across that way and
the way he's coaching. Look, North Carolina's going to be
a weird team. And I don't know how hard not.
I mean, I'm gonna guess they've done it and I'm going
to look stupid here. But I don't know how Hard

(24:54):
Knocks works on a college level because kind of the
whole point of Hard Knocks is the the storyline of
the guy from Iowa, Test Central whatever who you know,
is just making it. He's got the girlfriend and their
their dream. They never thought this was going to happen.
Then you know he gets whacked and then picked up,
you know, by someone else and plays special teams or

(25:15):
something like that. There's that storyline of will he or
won't he make the team? You don't really have that here.
I mean, I guess you've got a quarterback battle maybe coming,
but that that team does not have a ton of
talent coming back, so it'll be a lot of position
things to do. I don't know how you can do
the transfer portal on hard knocks and make that interesting.
I just don't get what's going to be really all

(25:37):
that fascinating about North Carolina because Belichick, unless he's really
opening up, is not going to be that entertaining a
guy on a team that really doesn't have a lot
of experience return.

Speaker 3 (25:48):
It's a lot of his girlfriends, a lot of girlfriends.
Oh yeah, yeah.

Speaker 6 (25:53):
I forgot about that one.

Speaker 3 (25:54):
I see.

Speaker 6 (25:55):
That's the problem. I don't think outside the box like
you guys.

Speaker 3 (25:58):
I need to for a.

Speaker 6 (26:00):
While and get to the real part of it. Of course,
the girlfriend Yes, that's got to be at least forty
percent of the showy.

Speaker 4 (26:06):
The wives of girlfriends have been the stars of the
show several times in the past. The Dolphins were boring
as hell?

Speaker 3 (26:12):
What's that? Ah? Look whose wife it is? So you
got that going for you?

Speaker 4 (26:16):
So Pete, so out of the weekend, So like, what
are you gleaning off of what you're watching on TV?
You getting excited about the bench press or the forty,
or you amp it up to run your own forty,
Like what are we doing?

Speaker 6 (26:28):
Oh yeah, my forty and forever these guys. Look, if
you're really good, you're not there. I mean, that's kind
of this is kind of a show. It's a little
bit amateur er. It looks it's a little secret that
no one wants to let out of the bag. And
I'm addicted to it all and I'm part of it too,
so I admit that this is me. The whole NFL

(26:48):
scouting process is who hah. Like, if you don't know
these guys by now, you've either not done your homework
or kind of laziness. So basically, you just want to
make sure that these guys are the Really, it's the
weigh in that does more than anything else. Because the
colleges are all going to every college everybody is six
ten and four hundred pounds and runs four two forties,
you know, so like you want to make sure that

(27:10):
everyone kind of measures right and actually is the size
and all that stuff. But really, can you play or
can't you play? That's really what this is the NFL draft.
It's the numbers. Bear it out. You got to really
totally screw up to not get a start a productive
starter in the first round. Second round is about seventy percent.
Third round drops the fifty percent after that. If you

(27:32):
find a productive starter after that, it's dumb luck. So again,
is Lamara first number one overall pick No. Which Patrick Mahomes,
Josh Allen, Jalen Hurts, any of those guys' top five
overall picks. No was Aaron Donald the first no, JJ
Watt and just it it's a lot of fun just
to look at these, you know, guys that working out

(27:53):
because they are the elite athletes of the world. It's
always the crazy stats. Look Tea, if you look up
NBA combine vertical to compare to NFL combine verticals, and
it's it's kind of the thing that blows their away.
These guys are jumping higher than NBA players, they have
better verticals. These are amazing elite athletes. And so just
just in the flat and marveling of what these guys

(28:15):
can do. And they're getting hit all the time and
taking all these punishments and pain. These are just amazingly
elite guys and it's interesting to watch them just kind
of do what they do and just we're kind of
used to it by now that all these guys run
four or five. That's there. They're just the simple act
of what they're doing is pretty impressive. The show just
all amazing. NFL really is.

Speaker 1 (28:36):
Yeah, that's why I like cam mood. They said, hey,
are you gonna throw at the combine? No, dude, I
think my five years of film shows everything I can do.

Speaker 3 (28:43):
I dig that.

Speaker 1 (28:44):
He said that, Ye why do I need to throw
You have five years of film on me.

Speaker 3 (28:47):
I like that. Yeah.

Speaker 6 (28:49):
Again, it's no, you're I mean like, oh, well, we're
not gonna take cam Ward now because he didn't work
out the college. Come on, I mean you know again,
there's it's he's no real point to it unless you're
kind of I get it. If you're like a corner
there's a deep group of cornerbacks, you just want to
look just a little more fluid than the rest. He's
got the really deep class of edge rushers, and you

(29:12):
want to look the part. But at the end of
the day, it either kind of confirms or denies what
you already know. If you've already done the film work
on these guys, if you've seen them for three or
two years or whatever, it is and you know what
they can do. You just kind of want to see
that all right, you know, are you really that bat
are you really that smooth? Are you really that good?
And at the end of the day just go back

(29:33):
and look and see, Oh yeah, you're the guy who
disrupted everyone else's game plan. Oh but you ran like
a four to seven. You just you kind of have to,
you know, put the whole puzzle together. But like, like
you just mentioned too, cam Warden, we kind of if
you don't know who he is right now, you know
he's good. He's going to also get you beat sometimes.
I'm not the biggest fan of his in terms of

(29:55):
being a top five overall pick, but yeah, he's pretty good.
He's he's not the one quarterback off the board. He too.

Speaker 3 (30:03):
He's on Twitter at Pete feu tech.

Speaker 1 (30:04):
That is at Pete feutech check out college Footballnews dot
com everything you need for college football going into the draft,
all your analysis.

Speaker 3 (30:13):
Pete is always buddy, appreciate you man, have a great weekend.
We'll talk to you soon.

Speaker 4 (30:16):
Hey, buddy, Right, great stuff there from Pete fu Tech.

Speaker 1 (30:20):
As always, uh, time not to find out what's trending
in the wide world.

Speaker 3 (30:24):
Of sports.

Speaker 1 (30:24):
But guy has been called the cam Ward of Fox
Sports Radio. He is terrific for the entire season, but
then when he shows up in Syracuse, they show him
a thing or two.

Speaker 3 (30:35):
It's Steve Desager.

Speaker 7 (30:36):
I thought I somehow appeared on the Incarnate Word campus
station maybe to start the career.

Speaker 3 (30:40):
And how you transfer a couple of times? Oh sure, yeah, yeah, yeah,
I've read they Yeah, five years of tape by five
years eleven schools. Is that what it wants?

Speaker 7 (30:48):
Yeah, answer to that question. By the way, nobody has
tape on him quarterbacking Incarnate Word. So let's let's take
a step back on that.

Speaker 3 (30:56):
You don't think it to be as VHS tape of
him quarterbacking? And where you going to have to go back?

Speaker 7 (31:00):
Just about that far by the way.

Speaker 3 (31:01):
LFL claimation of him quarterback.

Speaker 7 (31:06):
Show, narrated by Burl Lives. The NFL scouting scouting Combines
workouts had started Thursday. Saturday is the workouts for quarterbacks,
running backs, and wide receivers. Monday, training camp opens for
the UFL, the spring league, which has eight teams. The
NFL's franchise tag window lasts only until March fourth. The
NFL's new league year begins March twelve. We'll find out

(31:29):
details perhaps then about Matthew Stafford. He's still the Rams quarterback.
He has restructured his contract to stay in LA or
at least agreed to, and will formally do so in
a couple of weeks. The Rams gave tackle Aleric Jackson
a new three year deal. We're thirty five million dollars guaranteed.
Two late games in the NBA, Clippers have tied the
Lakers sixty seven all mid third quarter. Lakers starter Austin

(31:52):
Reeves has left with a sore calf and will not return.
Lebron James is playing has twenty points Luka Doncich is
playing has thirteen LUCA from three point range, one of six. Meanwhile,
just over a minute to go at Utah, Minnesota up
by a point against the Jazz one sixteen, one fifteen.
Out for Minnesota tonight due to a one game suspension.
Anthony Edwards Chicago in overtime beat Toronto one twenty five

(32:16):
one fifteen actually true, even though in the fourth quarter.
Early in the fourth the Bulls were trailing by sixteen points.
In fact, from the folks in Toronto at Sportsnet, they
say if you go back almost twenty years of Raptors history,
what is their win loss record when they're leading by
sixteen points or more with ten minutes left in the
fourth quarter. The answer is three forty two and two.

(32:40):
And both losses have come in Chicago one last season
and won this season tonight.

Speaker 3 (32:45):
Wow, that is a ross Porter stat right there. Absolutely,
that is wow.

Speaker 7 (32:50):
That is genuinely stunning comeback. And Kobe White of the
Bulls had a four point play late in regulation.

Speaker 1 (32:55):
And is this also the first time the Bulls have
had two wins in a week since two thousand and nine.

Speaker 7 (33:00):
It just feels like that, I hotully, that's accurate. Miami
and Phoenix each one at home road wins for Portland
and Oklahoma City. Nick's got a late three pointer to
win at Memphis. Denver won at Detroit, ending the Pistons
eight game winning street Cleveland has won nine in a row.
Cavs trailed twenty five to three early at Boston and
still beat the Celtics one twenty three to one, sixteen

(33:21):
Donovan Mitchell forty one points, and in college hoops, perdue
over UCLA seventy six sixty six. By the way, the
Sixers Joel Embiid is officially out for the rest of
the season with the bad knee.

Speaker 1 (33:32):
Back to you, Thank you, Steve Though The Jason Smith
Show with Mike Harmon live from the Tirerack dot Com Studios.
Coming up next, an NFL story that has fans of
one team going, oh, my goodness, yes, make this happen,
and fans of thirty one other teams are going no,
Like they're Darth Vader when they found out Padme died.
They're all going, no, don't let this happen. That story's

(33:56):
next right here, Jason and Mike Fox.

Speaker 2 (34:00):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven
pm Pacific.

Speaker 1 (34:07):
Fox Sports Radio, Jason Smith Mike Harmon live from the
Tyraq dot Com Studios. Lakers and the Clippers. Near the
end of the third quarter at the Crip, Lakers now
on an eight zho run. They have a seventy seven
to seventy two lead. Luka Doncic has twenty one, Lebron
has twenty.

Speaker 3 (34:26):
Buckle up.

Speaker 1 (34:27):
We got a great fourth quarter on the way. We'll
have more on this game coming up at about ten minutes,
but Uh, the best GM in the NFL is about
to get back to work, and for thirty one teams
in the NFL, they're going, no, don't let this happen.
Don't let this happen. According to Diana Rassini of The
Athletic and also the New York Post putting this out

(34:48):
there today, the Eagles are plotting a quote big swing.

Speaker 3 (34:56):
This offseason in the NFL. Well what is that?

Speaker 1 (35:00):
Well, according to Dianna Rassini on her Scoop City podcast,
quote Howie Roseman is willing to move on from some
of these guys because he's looking to make a big
swing and take a big swing. And that big swing
would be for Miles Garrett, the guy that wants no
part of the Browns whatsoever and wants out. And the
Browns are just living on mars. If they think they're

(35:23):
going to convince him to stay. He has told them
as many ways as you can. No, here's a big
contract offer. No wait, no, yeah, no, no, I want out.

Speaker 4 (35:32):
Here's more money than anybody else in the game that
isn't a quarterback.

Speaker 1 (35:36):
No, no, sorry, I really I really want out. I
saw that there was you know, people use the moneyball thing. Uh,
jiff of Jonah Hill explaining stuff to Billy Bean and
it's someone today and said, here's the here's the thing.
Miles Garrett is the best defensive lineman in the NFL.
He's an All he's an All Pro player and the
reigning Defensive Player of the Year. The only defect is

(35:57):
he really doesn't bleep and want to be in Cleveland anymore. Right,
that's the thing. Right, The Eagles can easily do this.
They can easily find a way to make this happen. Yes,
there are players they can move on for and not
worry about getting anything in return.

Speaker 3 (36:13):
They could.

Speaker 1 (36:14):
They're probably gonna lose Josh Sweat, right, they can let
him go. Bryce Huff was a huge whiff. I mean, look,
they haven't had many whiffs, but signing Bryce Huff from
the Jets last year, Remember, there's a whole big Basically,
it was a trade. Bryce Huff had a big ten
sax season for the Jets two years ago. Kit the offseason,
the Jets were like, yeah, we don't know, Oh, okay,
we'll let Bryce Huff go. We can't pay every defensive lineman.

(36:36):
This back when Robert Sala was the head coach and
they wanted twelve defensive linemen, so they let him go
to the Eagles. He's a guy that got after the quarterback. Hey,
we're gonna get a sign Reddick instead. Okay, didn't work
out for anybody. Bryce Huff was inactive for the Super Bowl. Okay,
it just didn't work out. And they can easily move
on from him because he's still young enough. He's twenty
seven years old and you don't need to get anything

(36:58):
for him. You can trade him way for a very
low draft pick. You're just getting out from under his money.
And Cleveland's got to do something. Garrett will say, Yes,
get me to Philadelphia. I want to win the Super Bowl.
That's what I want to do.

Speaker 3 (37:13):
And this can easily happen.

Speaker 1 (37:14):
And not only can they make it happen, but Philadelphia
would be able to add to the defensive line that
single handedly won then the Super Bowl. This year they
can add the best defensive flyman in football.

Speaker 3 (37:27):
Like that doesn't seem fair.

Speaker 1 (37:28):
That's why thirty one teams are going No, someone's got
to step in. Like if this was the NBA, Mark
Cuban would be calling David Stern saying, you can't let
the Lakers get Chris Paul, you can't let this happen
like thirty one. Teams have to have some kind of
intervention to make sure this doesn't happen. Well, let me
ask you a very important question. At the Eagles parade,
did they ever identify who hit Howie Roseman in the

(37:50):
head with the beer?

Speaker 3 (37:51):
No, they did not, So you're saying it was Bryce
huff As for making.

Speaker 8 (37:55):
Say it, I'm saying it was somebody that wanted to
take Howie Roseman down and get him out of that office,
at least in.

Speaker 4 (38:02):
The short term during the heat of the silly season.

Speaker 3 (38:07):
But instead there he is back at it once again.

Speaker 4 (38:09):
No. Look, it's we talk about in the NFL all
the time. How many how few? I don't want to
say many because that makes it sound like there's a lot.
How few teams there are that have the organizational stability,
continuity and plan that, you know, what their identity is.
Most season, we've got a quarter of the league that

(38:30):
we're still looking around going what did they want to be?
Go back to Week one or two, what did we
envision that they thought they could be Because they didn't
find it, And.

Speaker 3 (38:39):
Here we are with the Eagles.

Speaker 4 (38:41):
They have obviously a depth on both interiors, and you
got seven picks at your disposal here.

Speaker 3 (38:51):
Obviously the first round pick is number thirty two.

Speaker 4 (38:54):
But Garrett is not a full on distress property, but
kind of going that way. He's given them eight years
in Cleveland, and he's made it emphatically clear that he's done. Uh,
this is the Eagles going out, and they'll plant their
flag and say all right, come and best us, uh
and and really.

Speaker 3 (39:10):
Go over the top.

Speaker 4 (39:11):
Otherwise we're going to keep adding to the coffers and
make it that much more difficult, uh, to beat us,
because you do have a number of players, as you
said that you can spin off for picks and go
and just give a ton of stuff to the to
the Browns to make them feel moderately better while they
try to fix their quarterback position at the same time.

Speaker 3 (39:33):
Good but duck dude, I don't Miles Garrett. I know
he's getting to be thirty, but the guy's not a
just he's.

Speaker 4 (39:40):
The he was the no no, no, I mean just
you know, I'm talking about it in terms of eight.
He doesn't want to be here. So yeah, yeah, we've
got to take what's on the table. Okay, Yeah, no,
it's not him.

Speaker 8 (39:53):
Okay, it's not him, it's there.

Speaker 1 (39:56):
No no, So you mean like more like the Browns
are a distressed Yes, absolutely, Exit albouta Fresca Exit, swollen
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