Best of the Jason Smith Show with Mike Harmon

It’s a Knicks/Lakers party up in here. Charles Barkley hasn’t even started at ESPN and he already wants all the smoke with Kendrick Perkins. Jason doesn’t get why Jeanie Buss decided to sideswipe Anthony Davis. And a BIG Bold Shedeur Sanders Draft take. Plus, Barry Bonds shades Shohei Ohtani!

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Speaker 1 (00:31):
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Speaker 1 (01:01):
Well, here we are night, minutes away from the Knicks
and the Lakers. Let's get it on. Justin Frossburg is
either going to be drunk literally, or he's gonna go
home at halftime when Big Bodega's got forty and twenty
one of these things is going to happen tonight?

Speaker 3 (01:20):
Did you have Alex q up the sad walk Away
music from the end of The Incredible Home?

Speaker 1 (01:26):
But I'm looking lebron looks like he's moving kind of
gingerly and warm ups. Man, I don't know, I don't know.
Look that smile is not quite as big as it
will oh little bit. Yeah, well, I don't Frostburg got
what's going on? Man, I don't know what that is.
Maybe he's a smoked tuca and had a beard before
the game. He forgot to paint his hair back though. Yeah,
but look how look out? Look how focus? Jalen Bruntson

(01:46):
is ready hitting. He's jumpers from out. Oh again, we
didn't see that that actually went in though, Nicks, it
doesn't matter drops thirty on you, he doesn't miss.

Speaker 3 (01:54):
If Bronnie drops thirty, really would be a momentous night. Look,
Lucas already breathing heavy and warm ups. Look at he
really he was.

Speaker 1 (02:01):
He was just breathing heavy in the layup line. I'm
feeling good right now. I'm feeling good right now. Enjoy
your last five minutes.

Speaker 3 (02:08):
I mean there's Brownnie in the layup line.

Speaker 1 (02:10):
He's look at him.

Speaker 3 (02:11):
Yeah, the steely confidence, the eyes staring straight ahead like
let's go.

Speaker 1 (02:15):
Ready, ready to trip a couple of guards in front
of him, so you can get some minutes. Hey, if
it happens, it happens. Look at mcal Bridges missing jumpers,
jumper after jumper.

Speaker 3 (02:25):
So why did you assume Brunson and he's missing every shots.

Speaker 1 (02:28):
I'm just going by how I think things are gonna go.

Speaker 3 (02:31):
Is it because he's wearing that discount warm up shirt
or what?

Speaker 1 (02:35):
Hits every shot pre game? He hits everything during the game.
Would you stop with that he built a brick house?
Would you? Oh my god, you don't even you don't
even argue in real at least I argue in reality
with you. With the Knicks and the Lakers, you know,
basically if people just no one knew anything about basketball
and just listen and they listen to you talk about

(02:57):
the Knicks, they would say, how did the Knicks are?
They would oh, what are they?

Speaker 3 (03:01):
Like?

Speaker 1 (03:01):
Nine and nine and fifty? Like was just turning out
sandwiches on the laypline?

Speaker 3 (03:06):
No, No, I do have a big question there though for
you know, big Bodega.

Speaker 1 (03:10):
What was that? Was that a trophy on their their
warm up suit?

Speaker 3 (03:14):
Are they trying to speaking into existence because otherwise there
should be a picture.

Speaker 1 (03:17):
Of Phil Jets an old trophy. No, it's a it's
a I think it's a new thing. It's like the
the the is T two is one of is the
one one game in season tournament two for the trophies?

Speaker 3 (03:29):
Or was that a QR coach so you can just
scan your item as you walk up to them.

Speaker 1 (03:34):
I really watching the pregame on TNT, all the big
slow mo shots. Yeah, Lebron like ex haling and Bodega
with a big modego with a high five, like this
is the finals. It's like, it's the Finals. We're ready
Game one of the Finals. Next Lakers from Crypto dot
com arena. Yeah, that's next. Yeah, we got no shots
of Reddick and Thibodeau. Those guys should be out front

(03:55):
and center like their WWE manager. No, why don't we
get some of them? Nobody cares about the Come on,
care on, Reddick, hate you, It's it's good for business.
Braun and Luca and Brunson and Karl Anthony Towns. Nobody
cares about it doesn't matter. Yes, yes, JJ Reddick hates me.
I understand this. I understand it's really fueled the Lakers,

(04:15):
his his admitted hatred of me from his press conference
that diet that that that corresponds absolutely to when the
Lakers just started taking off. Absolutely. So, I mean, the
Lakers win the title this year, like I get a ring.

Speaker 3 (04:28):
Well, you also igniting that feud was what somehow planted
the nefarious seed, as they would say, in the back
of Nico Harrison's mind, to make that trade.

Speaker 1 (04:40):
Maybe you said it all in motion. Maybe we can do.

Speaker 3 (04:43):
It instead of a crystal ball, like the open says.
You might have been sitting here with I don't know,
some other thing of dark arts.

Speaker 1 (04:50):
You said that, like Nojo Hank and crystal ball, crystal balls,
crystal ball, the big statue of crystal ball at the end.
So we are and it's away from the Knicks and
the Lakers. So great, all right, game of the night.
Obviously you see this. You can't fake enthusiasm about stuff, right,
I mean, we don't make the rules in sports, we don't.

(05:11):
We just simply know that, Okay, we get what a
big game is because it's just organically something you know,
you know when a game is huge, you know, when
teams are popular. It's hard to make stuff happen in sport.
You could try, but you can't make stuff happen to wit.
Let's bring you this from Charles Barkley pregame going into

(05:32):
Knix and the Lakers. Okay, this is from tonight, and
this is entertaining on so many levels. So here it
is Nbat and t getting ready for the game. Here,
you know they're coming off the Celtics win tonight's second game.
Pritchard did not have forty tonight, so okay. So here's
Barkley coming off and he's talking about how other networks
ESPN where the whole show is moving to in a year.

(05:54):
Yet not really happy with how ESPN takes down basketball,
and Barkley was not shy with letting everybody know this
is how he feels.

Speaker 4 (06:06):
I saw a food idiot on TV talking about the Lakers,
save the NBA saved them.

Speaker 1 (06:11):
Yeah, yeah, he's an.

Speaker 4 (06:12):
Idiot in food, but he know he is what's his name, Shack,
which when you're talking about Kendrick Perkins, he.

Speaker 1 (06:18):
Said the Lakers.

Speaker 4 (06:19):
First of all, the Lakers have had a great two
weeks he said, the Lakers save the NBA season. That's
because them foods on the other network, which we're gonna
be working for next year. That's all they talk about.
Let me tell y'all something. First of all, I want
all the smoke. That's the when I walked by the
grid Yard or anything like that, I walked by the
great like that man still in that one. The Lakers

(06:42):
are doing great, got a long way to go. But
the reason the season has been going great for the
Cleveland Cavaliers and the Oklahoma City Thunder, y'all just want
to talk about the Warriors and the Lakers. They're both
doing great. Don't get me wrong. If I turn out
the wrong, I got no problem with that. But y'all idiots,

(07:03):
because y'all talk about the Lakers and the Wars all
the time. Y'all know the Cleveland Cavalier of the one
twelve straight games, so Oklahoma sid have got the MVP
and they all own fire. Y'all have talked about who's
in second place. That's the reason I get pissed. Hey,
the Lakers are doing greed. I don't mind being wrong.

(07:23):
The Wars are doing greed.

Speaker 1 (07:25):
But all right, enough of this. Okay, here's the thing.
Here's the thing. This is just a takeaway, right. First
of all, you have the inside baseball of Wow, he's
ripping ESPN and they're all going to work for ESPN soon.
So the ESPN's like, wow, we let a bunch of
people into work here that really don't like this company.
What are we doing?

Speaker 3 (07:43):
But the acknowledge is that they're coming to take over
the place.

Speaker 1 (07:47):
But the main thing is that Charles Barkley's been in
television for thirty years, right, and he still has no
idea how television works. Look, I mean really, I mean, honestly,
does he does he really sit here and say, hey,
the Cavaliers are more popular story than the Lakers and
Luka Doncic of course not. Does he really think that
that the Oklahoma City Thunder moved the needle more than

(08:07):
the Knicks to of course not. I don't make the rules.
None of us make the rules, right, And if the
Thunders start winning championships and SGA wins the MVP and
they become they'll become a big deal. But it's pretty
easy to understand that stars and star teams push sports,
and the star teams always have more interesting conversation about them.

(08:27):
It's the old adage of how you know a team,
the worth of a team in that how people respond
to when you talk about them. Right. I remember having
Rob Nyer on the show a MLB inside It a
long time, Right, great dude, Right, was on my show
all the time on ESPN, and I remember talking to
them one night and we were talking about some crazy

(08:47):
story with the Yankees that I thought was a little overblown.
This is like fifteen years I forget what the story was.
And I said, I can't believe it's getting that much attention,
because really I think this is a little bit too much.
And he says, well, I gotta tell you, you know,
I had to write something about that for ES this week.
They say, asked me, can you write something about the
Yankees this week? And I really wanted to write something
about the Royals I think it was, and they said, well,
do both, he goes, and I knew. I said, okay,

(09:09):
I'm gonna do both, and I'm gonna write this piece
on the Royals where I've done interviews and I've talked
to you and they all saying really interesting stuff. It's
direction of the team and all this and I'm gonna
write whatever they want me to write about the Yankees,
and it's gonna get a hundred times more attention. And
it it's you know, it sucks, but that's the way
it goes, right. You can you cannot like it. You
can not. I don't like that, but you can't. There's

(09:31):
no way you can. You can try to cut in
any way, shape or form that. Teams like the Knicks
and the Lakers and the Yankees and the Steelers and
the Cowboys, they're more part when you talk about them.
That's something that coast to coast people care about, right,
That's something that that coast to coast people say, Yeah,
I care whether I love the Yankees or hate the Yankees.
I love the Knicks, I hate the Knicks. I love
the Lakers, I hate the Lakers. They're big deal. They
stir the conversation. The Cavaliers are a really good story, right,

(09:55):
and the thunder really goods And we've talked about them.
But if there's a game where Luca Danticch goes for fifty,
guess what are we talking about the Cavaliers. No television
and the media. This is how it works. More. The
more popular something is the more you talk about it,
the more people want to watch. If your show is good,
if your show is popular, people are gonna watch it.
If your show doesn't talk about stuff that people want

(10:16):
to hear talk about it, they're gonna find something else.
Like again, Barkley's been in TV for thirty years, and
it's like he has no idea how TV works. I
want to stand up and talk about the Cavaliers and
the thunder. Yeah, they're all really good. Like, I don't
know if he's trying to curry favor or win some
type of thing. I'm standing up for the little guy.
But I mean, really, you look like you don't know
anything about television. You've been doing it for thirty years.

Speaker 3 (10:37):
Yeah, I think it's I think I'm in the exact
opposite camp. I think Charles Barkley knows exactly what he's doing.
Have we mentioned Charles Barkley's name since he said he
saved everybody and talked about all the job. No, we
haven't said a damn thing about him. Because unless he
says something outrageous or attacks Lebron or or you know,
Luka goes in a you know, a out of shape

(10:59):
or what ever, this guy is nobody cares.

Speaker 1 (11:02):
Like we love the show in the moment, it doesn't translate.
So what do you do? You pick a fight? What
do you do?

Speaker 3 (11:08):
I want in on this? So how are you gonna
get my name circulating?

Speaker 1 (11:12):
No, he's doing what he is accusing ESPN and everybody
else of Oh, well, you always talk about the Lakers. Okay,
if you just came on and talked about the Cavaliers, right,
if you just got because what you want to do,
what you're saying is why aren't we talking about the Cavaliers?
The thunder hey talk about him more, just talk about him?
But what does he do? No, I'm gonna call a

(11:33):
guy an idiot and I'm gonna say his name, and
I'm gonna say, why do you talk about the Lakers?
And I'm doing exactly what I'm saying. I don't like right,
So again, so on on both on both avenues of
this Barkley, I don't know what he looks. He looks
both ways. I feel like, is he just lost? Is
he just lost for stuff to say? Is he lost?

(11:54):
And what it means to work and tell them? Like, really,
I don't get what his what his whole point is
other than Hey, here's some attention that I'm gonna get.
And here's the potention I don't think somebody should get
when you really understand that, Hey, the Lakers and the
Knicks push things right. I guarantee you if he's in
that rundown meeting of TNT, all right, what are you
gonna talk about here? We got Lakers, I want to
talk about the thunder and the Cavs the producer, and

(12:15):
they're gonna say, okay, b blog, let's talk about that
blog that for thirty seconds and then we'll have a
nice four minute discussion about the Knicks and the Lakers.
I mean that that's where your own network is telling
He's gonna tell you no, one hundred percent.

Speaker 3 (12:28):
But I think for him, it was an opportunity to
have people talk about Charles. So we played at Charles clip. Congratulations,
put it in the bank. He'll be on with Dan
in the morning right to talk about this beef with
Kendrick Perkins. Kendrick Perkins immediately took to Twitter and he
was talking about, Hey, I'm from the four oh nine Beaumont,
Texas as it were. He can come playing with me

(12:49):
if you want, and I'm gonna address his ass like
the numbers on a house.

Speaker 1 (12:53):
It's pretty good line, pretty good line.

Speaker 3 (12:55):
I don't know, whistling through the graveyard versus that pretty
good response. But I would say he knows exactly what
he's doing. We're actually talking about Charles Barkley. Good job
by him.

Speaker 1 (13:05):
I mean, look I feel.

Speaker 3 (13:06):
And then they get to go into locker room together
next year.

Speaker 1 (13:08):
Come out. We're moving there. Yeah, we're ready. You're gonna rumble.
Good lie squad.

Speaker 3 (13:12):
I mean, it's like Anchorman. It's gonna use Ernie Johnson's
lean paray it there, and then you got the ESPN crew.

Speaker 1 (13:19):
It'll be ESPN Steel Cage.

Speaker 3 (13:21):
Next show.

Speaker 1 (13:21):
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off there you go. We're good. Luca Dot Okay, so
we're four minutes into the game, Luca Dots are already down.
He hits a three and the Jordan shrug. The Lakers
lead the mix fourteen to seven. Yes, it's it's over.
It's fourteen sex. I still think he needs a headmade.
Laker's up by a touchdown. So again, we'll have more

(14:06):
on this story throughout the night. Obviously, Nick Lakers is
the biggest story of the night, no matter what Charles
Barkley thinks. But we got some big stuff. Speaking of
the NBA, how about a brand new angle on the
Luca ad trade that just came up today. Brand new
that came up today. It's coming up next right here,

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you and Frostburg.

Speaker 3 (15:57):
I was getting my phone out, like you guys are
gonna come to blow.

Speaker 1 (16:00):
I'm like, oh, this will go viral.

Speaker 3 (16:03):
And now maybe we can get that heart rate to
slow down a little bit.

Speaker 1 (16:08):
No, no, let's here.

Speaker 3 (16:10):
Is this Nick's Lakers thing, and I will. But I
was just trying to celebrate a very important anniversary today.

Speaker 1 (16:17):
It is very important. Go ahead, go ahead. What are
you celebrating right now? Michael ahead? No, No, it's all you, buddy.
March sixth, nineteen ninety six. And where were you March
six nineteen ninety six, Oh, ninety eight, ninety eight, that's
two years later. I was here. I was in Los Angeles.
I was working at Fox. Chi gets on a bus, child.

(16:41):
I was working at Fox as a producer at when
it was Fox Sports Net before it was rebranded as
Fox Sports one in Fox Sports two years later. Well,
you were doing all of that.

Speaker 3 (16:51):
Yeah, most of the cool people were at the movie
seeing The Big Lebowski for the first time.

Speaker 1 (16:55):
Oh oh that was tonight, that's today. Wow, Okay, I
did not know that. I know that, did not know that.
I'm the dude.

Speaker 3 (17:03):
Oh I wanted to screening of it with the dude
showing up telling stories and asking questions next month sometime.
I remember not going to see it until it was
out for a couple of weeks, like it wasn't one
of those movies that, oh, big Lebowski, we gotta go
see it, like it's what it was when you see it, go,
oh that looks weird.

Speaker 1 (17:22):
It's one of it was. It was one of those
I'll wait and see what people say about it, and
they go and then all in this, you know, this
is how word of mouth is the greatest thing for
movies ever, no matter what kind of money you want
to put into any sort of advertising campaign. But when
word of mouth of a movie is good, and enough
people that go see a movie tell you how good
it was, you go see that movie. I gotta go
do it. I gotta go do it. And I remember

(17:43):
a lot of our friends talking, oh, Big Lebowski was
so funny. It was I can't even describe what it
was about, but but John Goodman was so funny, and
Steve Bishamy was so funny, and oh my god, it
was so funny. Like okay, and after a couple it's like, okay,
let's go see it and He's like, oh my god,
I remember I started laughing. The first big laugh out
loud when I knew it was gonna be that great

(18:04):
was when he goes to see Julian Moore for the
first time and he's just standing there and he's looking
at the artwork and she comes flying in from above
with drop dropping the paint. Jeff Bridge's reaction that scene
is so great. He's like, what the heck Jesus comes
flying in on a pulley here. She wasn't wearing any

(18:25):
clothes either, No, no, no, no, she wasn't.

Speaker 3 (18:27):
You left out a very important detail that probably helped
Jeff Bridge's reaction.

Speaker 1 (18:33):
Well, yeah, sure, sure there was that.

Speaker 3 (18:35):
I don't know when rehearsal that they necessarily did the
undress for her.

Speaker 1 (18:38):
Watch this, Watch how we get him go? We're gonna
go all right.

Speaker 3 (18:41):
So here's the top ten films from March of nineteen
ninety eight. Oh wow, Okay, Lebowski's one right, it's nine,
number one, Titanic, number two, that movie that was out
for over a year, Almost Titanic.

Speaker 1 (18:54):
It's still going at number two. US Marshals No, Wesley Snipes. Yeah,
Robert j is a bad guy. Ja sorry spoiler.

Speaker 3 (19:02):
Number three The Man in the Iron Mask. I saw
that once and I can barely Number number four, Goodwill
Hunting Sure.

Speaker 1 (19:10):
Number five The Wedding Singer, overrated, movie overrated. I thought
it was gonna be hysterical, like, oh this is this
is a fastball down the middle for Adam Sandler. And
I saw it. I said, yeah, I thought it could
have been better.

Speaker 3 (19:21):
Hey, Steve Buscemi, Julia Gulia. Number six, this one, really
it will surprise you. Primary colors, Oh, John Travolta. Travolta
and m My.

Speaker 1 (19:31):
Tom say yeah, yeah. That was when he was playing
like the Click Clinton. Yeah, okay, all right. Number seven
as good as it gets. Oh, I love the good gets.
That was number eight.

Speaker 3 (19:40):
She's in the news. She's a top ten UH television
show right now streaming Miley Cyrus, Denise Richards. Wild Things,
Oh yeah, I liked Wild Things was good. Number nine
Lebowski and number ten was Twilight. Just think about that
for a second. You just named like seven or eight movies.

Speaker 1 (19:59):
Early for how good. That one doesn't make it. You
can literally go and watch seven amazing movies. You know
that doesn't happen. It's a different Twilight. I must be.

Speaker 3 (20:07):
Yeah, couldn't have been the same with too No, this
was Twilight, some Kinds and Sandon.

Speaker 1 (20:15):
Yeah, oh, okay, all right, I don't remember that I
seen it, But I don't remember six movies that you
would consider classics that were all out at the same time. Yeah,
probably you sneak into at least three of them after
you bought. Oh, can I tell you that the one
of the biggest. Okay, I'll pull the curtain back of this,
and she's not listening. I can say this. One of
the things that always would start arguments with Pam and

(20:36):
I is that she loved trying to sneak into movies.
She was I always did. I go, yeah, I know,
I I don't like this. She could come on, let's
do it. Come on, come on, I go no, I
don't want to do Why we could just go right here?
We paid money, it's I go no.

Speaker 3 (20:49):
She always liked doing You paid for a movie and
you didn't pay for that movie.

Speaker 1 (20:52):
She always liked doing it. And this is before we met.
She goes, come on, come on, and like, no, I
really don't want to do it. I really don't want
to do I want to do it. And for years,
like she would chip, come ons, we can go right
to hear. I'm like, no, no, I'm not doing it.
And then finally when she stopped doing it is when
I got when I got on the radio like this,
I'm thirty. She still wants to do it, and and
she said, come on, let's sneak in. And I said no,
and she can whin. I said, I got you. I said,

(21:14):
because I'm not gonna get caught and have a headline
it on the internet. Radio hosts caught sneaking into movie.
National radio host caught sneaking into movie and she was like,
all right, fine.

Speaker 3 (21:24):
Well, shame shame the company to pay you a little
more money.

Speaker 1 (21:29):
I couldn't afford the movie.

Speaker 4 (21:30):
I there.

Speaker 1 (21:32):
I really wanted to go. I had to go see
it for I snamed you for the show. I mean
for the show. This is back when movies are like
five dollars, Like during the day, it's like five dollars.
It's an event, it's a night out. Don't work, don't
right now, Lakers on top of the next twenty five
to nineteen. Late in the first quarter, Karl Anthony Towns
has been on the bench with two foulsands. Very early

(21:52):
in this game.

Speaker 3 (21:53):
I think Scott Foster and Dick Bavetta are calling are
doing this game right now.

Speaker 1 (21:58):
But good Dick, We're the Lakers. A brand new angle
to the Luca ad trade that came out today. Right, hey,
we're still We're still talking about this. It's still the
biggest thing.

Speaker 3 (22:09):
Luca and the Lakers is going to continue to be
the biggest thing in the NBA the rest of the year.

Speaker 1 (22:13):
Sorry, Charles Barkley. It's gonna be a big deal. And
it comes to us courtesy of Lakers on her Genie Buss,
who on a podcast today just decided to say, this
is why we traded Anthony Davis. Ad wasn't happy. He
wasn't happy with the position he was playing. Right well,
he'd be pretty vocal, a vocal about that. We had

(22:34):
lost the Nuggets three straight times in the playoffs and
he was unhappy and he said we needed to get
a center. So we knew he wasn't happy, So that's
why we made the trade. He wasn't happy here, he
wasn't happy playing the position he was, so we made
the trade. And when I saw that come out, I
said to myself, why the hell is she doing this?

(22:56):
Right Like you've won this trade. You get nothing but flowers.
You get a Laurel and hardy handshake because you have
made this trade for Luca. You pulled off a trade
that I don't know anybody's gonna ever forgive the Dallas
Mavericks for you got a superstar twenty five years old
in his prime. You open the championship window, and now
the Lakers in one day change the fortune of their

(23:20):
franchise for the next ten years. Like you can't do
You can't do anything better than that. You don't need
to get involved in, Anthony. If you're the Mavericks, I
get why you have to leak stuff, like you know,
I'm too much HKA for loca and uh yeah, drinking
too much and all the time. Like I get why
you want to leak stuff because yeah, boy, we really
can't stand all this bad publicity. But you're the Lakers.

(23:42):
You've won this, You have won, and there's no reason.
No one's blaming you for trading Anthony Davis. No one
is saying you should. There's not one person segwy Anthony Davis,
like nobody. You don't need to get dirty on this.
But for some reason, maybe and likely because it was
knuckleheaded stuff that she and the Lakers' front office had
to deal with with Anthony Davis and his and his

(24:04):
attitude or his general unhappiness. But you know what, that's
what you get that, that's what you're the owner for.
That's you're the owner in GM four actually get paid for, right,
that's not a This stuff with Ad and not being happy.
This is not Oh, I can't believe I'm deal with this. No,
it's knuckleheaded stuff. But that's part of the job, Like,
that's the job. That's you need to do. So that's
how you deal with this. And so I get that
there's frustration for it that Yo, now he's gone. I'm

(24:25):
gonna say, why we traded Anthony Davis? Now all of
a sudden, why do you need to paint Anthony Davis
as a guy who was really grumpy and upset? Why
do you do that? People already know, people already know
judging by the trade, Hey, Ad was probably pissed, he
was probably upset, Luca was upset. All right, great, why
do you need to get involved in this? All this
does is just now Okay, now we see how petty

(24:46):
that the Lakers are in a trade they've won. They've won.
It does doesn't matter. Everything goes from here on out.
They have won this trade. I don't get why Genie
Buss decided I want to get out and say something
like this, like this is not helping anything except to
show that, oh, hey, guess what. The Lakers can be
petty towards their role players too when they don't need
to be. And that's a big thing. Is that I

(25:06):
get if you if you feel the need to because
something is not going your way, pr wise, attention wise,
you didn't need to instill Nope, I'm gonna kick Anthony
Davis on the way out the door when he's been
out the door.

Speaker 3 (25:17):
Yeah, I mean, you could have shut this down when
it was happening she or Polenka or whomever and really
addressed it at that moment, But they didn't, right, it
kind of just stated and any time Davis could talk
about having to play the five and you know how
he's more comfortable off there and how the game flows,
et cetera. That was not a one time thing. He

(25:39):
did a lot of postgame interviews, a lot of extra
media related to that through the time. Now, I wonder
how much of this goes to the highly successful I've
already watched the full season running point, which is based
on the Lakers.

Speaker 1 (25:53):
It's the Los Angeles Waves.

Speaker 3 (25:55):
You'll hear some familiar voices of guys you've worked with
and that we've known for years around the Greater LA area,
but loosely based on the front office and Kate Hudson
running as now the owner ahead of her brothers and
everything else.

Speaker 1 (26:10):
G go figure.

Speaker 3 (26:12):
So doing some press along that those lines, I'm sure
related to that. But this was on NPR where this
takes a turn right doing sports shows, done a couple
last week, and you have every opportunity to just talk
about how great it is to get Luca as the
next generational guy, and just stay on that path the
entire no matter what your instincts might be to drag

(26:34):
Anthony Davis to bring up all those old quotes, but
you got to be bigger, right, don't punch down. And
Nanthew Davis is a guy. He's seven feet tall, and
he's made a lot of money, and I get it,
you know, on some level, and we talked about it
at the time and still do that. He kept being
pushed aside like he was a nobody in that trade.

(26:56):
Look good, they got Luca for nothing. I'm like, no, no,
I mean we were leading the charge for the Anthony
Davis showed the guy some love, because all we've been
doing is talking about how he might be, you know,
MVP conversation if he stayed healthy, and all of those
things in spurts, and how important he was and everything else.
Top ten player. Remember when he did operations shut down

(27:19):
with the Pelicans all.

Speaker 1 (27:20):
Those years ago.

Speaker 3 (27:21):
Look how great we were talking about what he was
as an impact player when they brought him in, and
on the way out, suddenly he's a bucket of balls.
And it just kind of curious the way that goes.
But you had every chance to just hype up Luca.
We had the opportunity. It fell into our laps. Anthony
gave us a great couple of years. We have a
title that we'll we put a banner up in the

(27:42):
rafters and just run from there.

Speaker 1 (27:45):
Instead it's the oh, by the way here, let me.

Speaker 3 (27:48):
Open the car door as I pass you and get
you in the mid section. Just didn't seem to make
a whole lot of sense and pettiness. Look, no tax bracket,
it's in the open.

Speaker 1 (27:59):
And I get it. I get the Peggy be better,
but when when you're the owner and and you you
get that this is part of the this is part
of the gig, right. I'm sorry that you don't think,
but this is part of the gig. And and dealing
with agents and dealing with with clutch Sports, which you
allot at whatever it is. It letsn't take whatever it is.
I get the frustration, but everything is wonderful and you

(28:21):
won and now, but now going out the door, I'm
still gonna say, wasn't happy. Wasn't all this stuff blah
blah blah. Wasn't that we had Clutch Sports came over
and took over like venom.

Speaker 3 (28:29):
Okay, you had some great stuff that happened, but there
was a lot of chaos, a lot of potential for turmoil. Eddie,
Oh Genie, just let me, let me go, Let me
go out here and going to eat Nico Harrison's brain
and then you'll just have half a brain left and
you'll be able to trade you Luka, dog Ja, let
me just eat his brain.

Speaker 1 (28:47):
A little bit, Genie, Genie cutting print. See it's not
just venom, Jerry Jones like venom works for almost any times. Yeah,
there we go uh. End of the first quarter, Lakers
lead the next thirty one twenty seven. Carl Anthony Towns
back in after a couple of fouls. So it looks
like we have a fun one, well at least for now,

(29:10):
but no need for I don't know why, Genie, I
have no idea, but you know, hey on NPR, man,
you do you, and and you do you and and
just wind up looking bad.

Speaker 3 (29:20):
They're gonna be seven strawberries at the end of the week.
By the way, when you got rid of Anthony Davis,
was there any latent hate towards he and his agency?

Speaker 1 (29:29):
Time not to find out what's trending in the wide
world of sports from someone who's been compared to Karl
Anthony Towns. He's big bodega, she's little bodega. Yeah, it's
Monty with what's trending.

Speaker 3 (29:41):
Yeah, I got that.

Speaker 5 (29:43):
I was like, don't Jink say when you're like, we
have a good game right now, don't jin say, don't
Jink say.

Speaker 1 (29:48):
Well, what a twenty seven nothing run by the Lakers.
This one's over it swish. Yeah, that took the Lakers side.

Speaker 5 (29:54):
I know he's trying to even it out and he's
trying even also.

Speaker 1 (29:57):
Have been Scully on the call.

Speaker 5 (29:58):
It's Scully on the I'll stop stop Yes thirty one
twenty seven after the first quarter, Jalen Brunson fourteen points.
Luka Donces thirteen points for LA. We're gonna start with
the Warriors, though, because they were down twenty two points
and came back to defeat the Nets one twenty one
to one nineteen. Steph Curry forty points, including seven threes.
The Warriors have won eight out of their last nine games.

(30:20):
The Bulls handed the Magic their fifth straight loss, one
twenty five to one. Twenty three was the final score.
Kobe White forty four points. Dwight Howard will be inducted, though,
into the Magic Hall of Fame on March twenty fourth.
It was announced not long ago.

Speaker 3 (30:33):
Trey Young drup. Trey Young dropped.

Speaker 5 (30:35):
Twenty two points in sixteen assists as the Hawks top
the Pacers won twenty four to win eighteen. The shorthanded
Celtics crushed the seventy six ers anyway, one twenty three
to one oh five, Jason Tatum thirty five points, and
the Rockets outscored the Pelicans one o nine to ninety
seven and men's college basketball Number eight, Michigan State came
back to defeat Iowa ninety one to eighty four.

Speaker 1 (30:56):
Right now, on the ice, the Flames and the Stars
are tied at to a piece.

Speaker 5 (30:59):
They are in over time with about three minutes to go,
and the Jets say, the Jets are still still crushing
it on the ice.

Speaker 1 (31:05):
Jason can't beat the Jets. Catch you, Jets can't stop
what a great offense. Literally, no, Aaron Rodgers doesn't matter,
It doesn't matter. Stop us.

Speaker 3 (31:14):
You can't stop him.

Speaker 1 (31:15):
They crush the Flyers already.

Speaker 5 (31:16):
Four to one was the final score on that one.
And in the NFL, the Bengals did give defensive end
Trait Hendrickson permission to seek a trade. He's on his
final year, was a sack leader in twenty twenty four.

Speaker 1 (31:27):
Back to you guys, thank you very much. Monon, Jason Smith,
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(31:51):
am ready to make a big bowld prediction about one
high profile quarterback and the NFL Draft. Are you ready?
Are you ready? Next? Right here, Jason and Mike, you're
listening to Fox Sports Radio. How you feeling Frostburg thirty
one twenty seven? How you feel it? Never in doubt?
How you feeling? You like it? On bottom? Right? Whoa what?

Speaker 3 (32:14):
Because the Lakers are on top? Okay, say that faster
next time, wait for it.

Speaker 2 (32:22):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
Show with Mike harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven
pm Pacific.

Speaker 1 (32:30):
So apparently tonight's going to be big Lebowski soundtrack night. Okay,
all right, as long as once, as long as once
we get the cassette, we get the audio of the
sette when he was listening to the playoffs Venice bowling playoffs,
and he's just listening to the balls hit the pins,
I might.

Speaker 3 (32:49):
Bite your ear off and slam you in the gut
with a bowling ball. Yes, over the line, smoky, over
the line, leaking live. It's not his homework, This is
not his homework. It's not his homework. I actually yield
that to eleanor earlier.

Speaker 1 (33:02):
You're killing your father, She goes, but I just never mind.
Nine minutes to go in the second quarter game of
the night in the NBA, the Knicks out to a
thirty five thirty two lead over the Lakers. Jalen Brunson
has fourteen, Ludadancic has thirteen.

Speaker 3 (33:17):
This is, uh, everything you'd expect so far in Game
one of the NBA Finals, and we got everything. In
the little interstitial where they gave us the history, it
was almost like, are those ai like renditions of these
guys because they don't look like normal photos? Like, how
much work are we doing photo shopping these things into
the montage? Look when they were teammates. Look they're hanging out,

(33:40):
and now here they are and all the iso Jalen Brunson,
I'm like just waiting for the giant picture with his
dad sliding in. I got him here, I got him
to the Knicks.

Speaker 1 (33:50):
So we'll have more NBA on the way. But ready
for a big Bowl. Prediction for the NFL Draft, right hey,
and you've seen the last couple of days have not
been No matter how you want to cut it up,
if you like it, don't like it. Agree, not agree,
but there's not any discussion. The last few days if
not been great for Shador Sanders, a guy who once

(34:12):
was projected to go at the number one overall pick,
now is probably going to be the second quarterback taking
off the board after cam Ward. And where that happens
now that's the big question, right. You had the dueling
reports of his behavior at the combine that some teams
were turned off by his attitude, other teams maybe not.
But no matter what, it's not been a great last

(34:33):
few days for Shador Sanders and starting to widen that
gap between he and cam Ward and closing the gap
between he and guys like Jackson Dart and Kyle mccordney.
Jackson Dart now suddenly is he's a first rounder? We
got it all we're talking about Jackson Dart went from
he's a Day three guy to be in a first
rounder in like eight seconds. But you see that now

(34:54):
that the gap is starting to widen between Sanders and
the very top of the draft and is starting to
are between he and a guy like Jackson Dart. So
I'll tell you what the first three picks tennessee all right,
Number one, Brown's number two Giants number three. We thought
for a while Tradeur Sanders is going at least three
to the Giants. It seemed like that was a case.

(35:14):
Well now no longer, because the Giants have been doing
everything they can to try to get out there and
get another quarterback. Between cam Ward, Travis Hunter an Abdua Carter,
there's your top three picks in the draft. Most likely
number two with a bullet will be Cleveland getting cam Ward.
They need the quarterback right They just redid Deshaun Watson's

(35:35):
contract again earlier today. He's never He's never gonna play
in the NFL.

Speaker 3 (35:40):
But even as a guy that could be upright and
working out a practice field, we're not even at that
point with the injury that he suffered.

Speaker 1 (35:48):
No. So number one either Abdul Carter or Travis Hunter.
Let's say Carter gets number one, Travis Hunter will go
number three. The Giants will bring in this absolute superstar
to come in. He'll be part of the Idea's why
like Travis Hunter number one because he brings you instant
superstar status. People will buy his jersey right away. You
have a guy that could be break the mold as
far as what a player is maybe he plays both

(36:09):
ways in the NFL all the time. So now you're
getting into the draft little bit and saying, okay, and
still no Chador Sanders. Well, four and five aren't gonna
be quarterbacks. Then you get Raiders Jets at six and seven.
All of a sudden, chaduor Sanders is out there, Raiders
and Jets at six and seven. Raiders are doing all
they can to go get a quarterback now, right. Pete

(36:31):
Carroll's not gonna wait, right, Tom Brady's not gonna wait.
They want to go get it, make a big splash.
And I've told you, we told you last night. It's
either gonna be Sam Donald or Aaron Rodgers. Most likely
they'll go out and overpay and go get Sam Donald.
He's younger, he's got more upside. This this is who
you go get. This is the number one guy as
free agency in the NFL. He's a guy you go get.

(36:51):
So now you're sitting with the Jets at number seven.
And if the Jets don't take Shador Sanders, all of
a sudden, it's like, why is this guy falling? And
then that meant Brick Johnson didn't like him, And then
you're into the Saints at nine. Are they gonna take
Shador Sanders? Because if that doesn't happen, he falls all
the way through the first round and has an Aaron

(37:13):
Rodgers like fall. And that's the way things are going
for Shador Sanders right now. So I hope that. Look
if I was a pr advisor, like I told you,
my best job outside of radio be doing that, I
would tell Shador Sanders, Dude, you are in danger of
falling through the first round of the draft. Now, there's
a lot of time left between now and the beginning
of the DRAFTY have the rest of this month and
most of the next month. You have to rehabilitate that

(37:35):
image so other teams and make other teams want to
take you, because right now they're looking for reasons to
not take you. This combine did not do you any favorite.
You can stand up and say I don't care, that's
who I am. But in the end, you have to
understand you're always in a job interview until you get drafted,
and you got to make sure a team wants to
take you. They're not nervous about anything, whether it's how

(37:56):
are you gonna respond if things go bad? You're gonna
blame the offensive line like he did in college. Are
you mature enough to understand that you're the face of
a franchise. You're gonna be able to do that, Like,
you have to make sure teams are comfortable with that,
because teams are looking for a reason to say no
to you right now, and as we go through the draft,
that's exactly what's gonna happen to mean Bo Callahan and
draft day all again, people, why why why? I don't

(38:17):
know why Callahan's following. Everybody got spooked because of what
happened early on in their draft, so no one's taken
him like that could happen. I were giving you a
real palpable and possible situation where Shadur Sanders just falls
past number seven, right and if the Jets don't, like, like,
all of a sudden, you're at seven and the Jets
at seven and the Saints at nine, like that's it.
Like if that doesn't happen, there forget it. The Jets

(38:39):
could also go get a quarterback this all. We don't
like the other guys. We're gonna get a quarterback this
offseason and draft Kyle mccorridor or Jalen Milroe in the
second or third round, right, teams are gonna have that
kind of strategy to do, and you can see him fall. Dude,
he's got time, but he's got to figure out a
way to make himself might sell himself more of the
product because you're seeing the other players rise through the

(39:02):
NFL draft and Shador Sanders is the faller right now
and he's got he's got to fix that in the
next month.

Speaker 3 (39:06):
Yeah, and something goes back to you know, we talked
about it with the Travis Hunter discussion we had last week.
Folks can go find that podcast wherever you get your
audio in terms of what he Travis Hunter becomes on
the next level, and part of that conversation goes back
to the competition that they face, strength, the schedule, all
of those kind of things. Look, you're making plays and
it's exciting, but we're always trying to figure out, you know,

(39:29):
where there's noise in the algorithm or how to take
those things into account. Right, So the same thing goes
for Shador Sanders offensive line running back issues that they
had and some spectacular plays, but like Caleb Williams beforehim,
and it was something we talked about before the Bears drafted.
Williams was he likes to try to extend plays, try

(39:50):
to buy the extra time. Well, you know what in
the NFL we watched with Caleb this past year. I
mean that was the cardinal sin, right, not playing on time,
trying to make an extra play. And when you go
to spin back, thinking, all right, I'm gonna be able
to get DJ Moore or Keenan Allen or Roma Dunsa
open downfield. Nope, that guy's there to level you. And
Shud Or Sanders's gonna face some of that. So people
will start picking back into the tape a little more.

(40:13):
Charles Davis put up his mock draft earlier today. He's
still he had quarterbacks one, two, three, He had Sanders first,
Ward second, Jackson Dart all the way up to number
three current odds. Ward a prohibitive favorite at number one,
with Abdul Carter at plus two ten, and then Travis
Hunter at eighteen to one to be the number one

(40:36):
overall pick. And that's assuming all that stuff stood. Pat
The next spot after your Jets and the Saints would
be Seattle at number eighteen.

Speaker 1 (40:44):
Good luck, good luck, got some work to do coming
up next. Boy, do we have a fun story out
of Major League Baseball. Tell you about a slugger twenty
years ago and a slugger now. Fox, I think it
might be a ten point lead. I don't know. I'm
trying to see. I'm looking at harm over here on Friendster.
He's trying to get some people to find out what
the score the game is.

Speaker 3 (41:04):
Yeah, I knew someone that once ran a site called
datemifriend dot com.

Speaker 1 (41:08):
No, Friendster was yeah, uh three forty eight to go
of the second. Oh, there's my internet. All need friends?
Nix Lee the Lakers fifty two to forty two, but
a big last few minutes. Now Heart's got ten andw
Nobi has a couple of threes. Jalen Brunton still leading
away with sixteen. Meanwhile, for the Lakers, it's been all
Luca and Lebron. Luca's got fifteen and five assists. Lebron

(41:31):
twelve points already. He is five out of nine from
the floor. So the Knicks, Yeah, if only it was
a two quarter game for you, it is. I don't
know if you know this or not. It's over. You'd undefeated.
The Knicks are leaving at halftime. Hey, it's not going
to get better. Than this we're leaving right now.

Speaker 3 (41:45):
Combine nine of thirty five from three point range the
Knicks with several more free throw.

Speaker 1 (41:52):
Attempts than the Lakers.

Speaker 3 (41:53):
We had a play where Luca was driving and the
ball gets knocked away, but he takes a four arm
shiver from Cam and he ends up drawing the technical
foul because he complained pretty crazy.

Speaker 1 (42:05):
Right now, they're doing the whole pan round of fans
at the game, and John McEnroe was sitting next to
Don Johnson, who was sitting next to someone I couldn't
tell who was sitting next to Bob Costas, and Costas
had like four phone books. I was waiting for the
Doctor Odyssey promo. I I, yeah, right, you know it's

(42:25):
gonna be a shark attack doctor Otissey McEnroe sitting next
to Don Johnson.

Speaker 2 (42:32):
I love it.

Speaker 1 (42:33):
What do you mean that was out of about Jason?
Can you tell me what the eighties are like in
one shot from this game? Yeah? Right, here, here you go,
John mcenrote, Don Johnson, there you go with a right
Jim Stones. I don't know who the other guy was.
Who was the other guy that cost was talking to?
I couldn't tell.

Speaker 3 (42:47):
I saw like, I know, I know his face. I
know his face, but the name's not now.

Speaker 1 (42:52):
Here's Here's a crazy His face kind of looked like
the guitarist from Cheap Trick. But I don't think that was. No.
Probably would be awesome if it was. I talk about that.
We're gonna say his face looked like a guitar face,
looked like a guitar man playing the strings on your nose. Man,
it's what you're doing. So that's gonna bug me now
though under three minutes to go before halftime, Nix with

(43:16):
a ten point lead over the Lakers fifty four to
forty four, have more in this game coming up. Great
day today to talk about a guy I haven't talked
about in a long time, Barry Bonds has jokes. Apparently
Barry Bonds has decided to weigh in on show.

Speaker 3 (43:32):
Hey O, Tommy, Barry Bond's very active these last couple
of months. He's signing autographs for the Tops Cards again,
first contract he's had with them, I think in like
a decade. He was around Spring training a little bit,
and then during the NBA All Star weekend up in
the Bay Area, he was a coach for one of
those dopey celebrity games. Yeah, and there he is. Hi,

(43:53):
it's me.

Speaker 1 (43:53):
So twenty years have gone by. Do you think I
can go? Yeah? I think you're okay. Now back, you're
all right, You're okay, You're okay. Now you're all right.
I think you can all right.

Speaker 3 (44:01):
So what's funny is Very supposed to ask me about
my hat size. And it's funny that we segue into
a conversation about Barry.

Speaker 1 (44:08):
Bones and Very Bond. His head's hat size was an eight, right, yeah,
he was bochie. Yeah. Now without the roids at the two,
he's a sixth and seven eight hat.

Speaker 3 (44:17):
What do you mean alleged? I don't think we have
to say alleged when it comes to Barry Bond.

Speaker 1 (44:21):
That well for hat size, you do that always upset
me when I would go on and see, oh, look
at this great sweet hat. You know, normally fifty four
to ninety nine. Now it's nine ninety nine. Oh and
I go size six seven eighths only, like, who is
a size or six and seven eighths. I'm about seven
and five eighths. His hat size is down.

Speaker 3 (44:37):
My hat size is down, PhD weight lost my hat
I was a seven and three quarter.

Speaker 1 (44:42):
Even my hat size is down now I'm at the
seven and five aches. Oh way, I'm becoming a lolly
pop pet. I'm dropping weight everywhere else. I still have
a giant fat hit. It's just going to his head.
I mean you are swollen Dome. No it did.

Speaker 3 (44:53):
Yeah, that's your nickname, so I mean that it really
can't give that away. But I'm not doing anything to
keep it now.

Speaker 1 (45:00):
Hat size is all these all these hats that are
now more available for me to buy because that I
don't just go and I see, oh it only goes
up to seven and five. Inus they don't make him
any bigger.

Speaker 3 (45:08):
Bigger question though, did you buy that Rogers sweatshir yet?

Speaker 2 (45:11):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (45:12):
No, I might run another ten percent? What are you doing?
I'm waiting for. It was nineteen ninety nine now went up,
and I was kind of upset about that. So on
general principle, I'm waiting for to come back to nineteen nine.
I bought one of those jerseys, But then like, what
am I gonna do with this? Yeah? I guess because
unless I can go to.

Speaker 3 (45:27):
An event like an autograph signing that he's gonna do
down the road. But I don't I don't want to
pay three hundred dollars. Yeah, it's like it's a non starter.
It's like it's all our cost averaging because the jersey's
cheap at all. Bit.

Speaker 1 (45:40):
Now, certain things that I know because I love to
online shop and thrift and all kinds of stuff, there's
certain things when I buy and I don't again, I'm good.
My wife isn't listening. Is that? Certain things I buy
and I just I put in my cart and I
think about him for like a week. Do I really
want this? Do I really want this?

Speaker 3 (45:56):
Like?

Speaker 1 (45:56):
Oh, yeah, it looks good. You look at this is
only nineteen ninety nine, blah blah blah blah. Yeah yeah,
And then I click on it and I buy it,
and I go, that was really unfulfilling. Why did I
do that? But I didn't. I didn't. I didn't. I'm
not gonna wear this. Why did I do that? Like
like the Aaron Rodgers Jet sweat because everything with Jay
Rogers is clear for the Jets, And I'm like, oh,
this sweatshirt that's one hundred dollars is nineteen dollars. I'm like, oh, okay,

(46:17):
or twenty nineteen ninety nine. I'm like oh I could
get this. I'm like, yeah, it'd be great to be grabbed.
Go Am I really gonna wear it? Am I really
gonna wear it all that often? Am I really? I
mean I'm just buying it because it's cheap, right, Okay,
I mean it's great quality sweatshirt, it's a good yeah. Yeah,
it says Rogers eight. And I'm like, am I really
gonna wear it? Am I really gonna wear that? Probably

(46:37):
not now, you know? And that's what I mean. Like
then I go, okay, and I'm like, I just had it.
I thought about this thing for a week and then
I clicked to buy it and I didn't want it.
Why did I do it? So That's where I'm at
right now.

Speaker 3 (46:48):
No, it's good, it's it's it's part of growing up
and buy so I have to keep the candy by
the checkout.

Speaker 1 (46:57):
But Barry Bonds does a podcast today and he wanted
to talk about how players nowadays, like Showe Hayotani have
it easy. In my day, I interface Walter Johnson and
Mordecai three finger Brown when he had five fingers, so
good luck trying to hit back. Barry Bonds wanted to say,
how yeah, shoe. Heyes, a great player, great players now, but.

Speaker 3 (47:19):
Things are a lot easier in my day when I
was up there at bat playing in Major League Baseball.

Speaker 1 (47:24):
Show he Otani is way better than me. I didn't
even sound like Barry Biden. I like that he went
full deep by the way, Yeah, Barry Bonds is kind
of a higher voice. Hey, yo, Berry, why did we
give this guy a voice again? I don't know what
are we doing? I think after twenty years he's saying, Hey,
people seem to be forgiven and all walks of life
now for really the things they've done, why can't I

(47:45):
come back? And his agent probably said, Okay, sure, that's
probably what happened. I'm pretty sure the game is easier
when you're on steroids. Ah, well that's the whole thing. Well,
let's play the sound by first and we get to why.
You know it's arry very ironic. Barry Bonds is talking
about how easy the get play. There's no question about
who he is. I just the pitching and hitting has
been outstanding. For what he's done in base running stuff

(48:08):
like that, he's a complete player. I mean, there's no
doubt about the type of player he is.

Speaker 6 (48:12):
And what he's accomplished in his career. The game has
just changed. I mean the game is way different than
it is than when I played the same way Michael
talks about it or anyone else. Oh Tani is not
going to hit two home runs without seeing one goal
right here in my generation, I don't care what he does.
He's not going to steal two bases about somebody decapitating
his kneecap and slow him down.

Speaker 1 (48:34):
Okay, So Barry Bonds is the latest guy to say
yeah back in my day, and look, Barry Bonds is
right to an extent. Look, Barry Bonds, I think was
I think he's like a fifth or sixth all time
with hit by pitches because he did get thrown at that.
That's how it goes.

Speaker 3 (48:49):
Yeah, we start wearing that body armor like he looked
like he was Rogo cop.

Speaker 1 (48:52):
But let me just say this, wait, Barry Bonds also
has to understand that things a lot easier for him
than they were for Mike Schmidt in the nineteen seventies.
In the eighties, the home run here is there, and
Mike Schmid has to say, boy, was easier for me
than it was for Mickey Mannlin, Roger maris right, this
is how sports goes right. Here's another guy that's been
in sports shover doesn't know how sports work, Charles Barkley
Barry Bonds like, Yeah, of course things are a little

(49:14):
bit easier for you because of things that were open
to you now that weren't back then. Twenty four hour
a day training and what teams are able to do,
and what you're able to do to be able to
stay in shape all around. You don't come to spring
training to get in shape anymore. You're in shape twenty
four to seven, right, all these amenities that are offered
to players outside. Yeah, that's the way sports goes right.

(49:34):
And it's also it's really ironic that a guy that
took peds and tested positive for peds, he's saying, how
he's got it easier than I did. Oh, by the way, okay,
easier at the plate? Who also would crowd the plate,
hang over it, wear that big armor around his elbow
with the straps that hung down into the strike zone

(49:56):
and they allowed him to do that. So yeah, stop
for I'm sorry for a second if barring A. Bonds
is saying, oh, yeah, yeah, things are easier for Otani
than they were for me. Yes, certain things Forrotani or
he doesn't have to worry about getting thrown at that
doesn't happen. But other things, Boy, you had advantages outside
the game. You were able to gain the system with
your whole here's where I'm gonna stand with this big
arm brace, and yeah, you were allowed to do things

(50:18):
that guys before you didn't do. It's kind of convenient
memory now for Barry Bonds just saying this about show.
Hey O Tani, So I mean, come on, man, I mean,
I get it, but there's other ways to make your point.
And especially I don't know that you're the guy that
wants to say things were easier then because I made
it easier on me with the cream and the clear,
So that made it easier for me against everybody. Like

(50:40):
he's the guy saying, but what.

Speaker 3 (50:42):
He's saying there in between the lines is I mean
it levels out what we did back then versus all
the training habits or whatever you have. Remember, they're always
building a better mouse trap. They're always ahead of whatever
regulations the game enforces. Just got of raising my hand
on all of that one, not casting a spurs and
just calling it what it is. But for the time

(51:04):
and Barry Bonds, you know, we always have that imaginary
line of demarcation of all right, when do we think.

Speaker 1 (51:11):
It all began? I don't know. We arbitrarily decide which
guys we liked that.

Speaker 3 (51:16):
There's no way they could have ever done anything during
that period when it's been talked about pretty relentlessly, going
back to jose Canseco of yeah, oh.

Speaker 1 (51:25):
No, that was everywhere. Oh yeah. We talk about what
the game.

Speaker 3 (51:31):
Is, right, is it easier or harder when you're deploying
all those relief pitchers as a hitter, numbers will bear
it out over time, Like we're in a new era
in terms of you're not seeing a starter a second
time oftentimes or a.

Speaker 1 (51:46):
Third right, and how many relievers are you seeing? Now?
Everybody throws ninety five and up right, that didn't happen.
Barry Bonds was seeing crafty lefties and guys coming in
with big arsenals. But everybody throws ninety five now, right,
But that's.

Speaker 3 (52:00):
They'll hit one hundred mile an hour fastball, which I believe, right,
a straight dead red fastball, like and that's I guess
owes to the old style of pitching where it was
more of an art form. Am I Am I wrong
for saying that, Like when I look at guys like
Maddox and look, guys still game the system to try

(52:21):
to earn the plate. We'll see what happens when the
robot empires take over. How much of that goes out
the way, you know, because all the veteran pitchers are
all complaining about this coming in, realizing that they probably
get some strikes that are a little generous, you know,
a couple of inches off the black. But to that end,
you know, you had all those guys and they weren't
all Randy Johnson coming in fireballing and even Roger Clemens

(52:44):
the arsenal.

Speaker 1 (52:44):
That he had right, So the art of.

Speaker 3 (52:48):
Pitching may be a bit different and was a bit
more nuanced back then. But all of that to say,
you don't denigrate that guy, you know, try to take
away from what hotel diets so much so much easier.
So much like like you still get celebrated, even though
people will put the asterisks and argue where you know,
things got fraudulent for for guys of that era, particularly

(53:11):
Bonds and Clements, but they still recognize their greatness. Yeah,
but and but being self aware has never been Barry
Bond's a strong point has been something.

Speaker 1 (53:21):
Own wing in the clubhouse, right, I yeh, he's never
He's never had that part of it. And and these
are kind of tone deaf comments where right away most
people are gonna just say, oh yeah, another one of those.
In my day, everything was this, and it was so
difficult because I was facing two pitchers at once and
two balls were coming at me at the same time,
and I had to hit one of them or I
would strike out. Like but but I think the Savannah

(53:43):
bananas do that. But to go, but to go to go,
to go after Otani and say oh, yeah, yeah, he's
got all this and all these advantages. Like, dude, you
were the guy that made your own advantages with stuff
that wasn't allowed in Major League Baseball, and you're the
guy saying that he's got he's got advantages that I didn't. Oh.

Speaker 3 (54:01):
Look, to be fair, major League Baseball has done a
pretty good job through the years of turning a blind
eye to things they don't want to discuss. Go to
all the owners, the commissioner, the managers, the clubhouse people,
everybody that was involved with that era, including the broadcasters
that made millions of dollars and didn't question, Hey, Sammy
Sosa Mussa really had one great off season of workouts.

(54:24):
My god, he looks legitimately like a different guy.

Speaker 1 (54:27):
Oh, very fine. Yeah, he keep talking about You give
us stuff to talk about.