March 8, 2025 • 40 mins
Mike Harmon and Arnie Spanier (in for Jason Smith) open Hour 1 with their immediate thoughts and reactions to the Seahawks agreeing to trade Geno Smith to the Raiders. Later, they get into Jalen Brunson's ankle injury and the news that he's likely to miss the next two weeks to recover. Plus, reacting to Deion Sanders' reasoning for why Shedeur's draft stock seems to be falling.
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Speaker 2 (00:23):
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Speaker 3 (00:29):
Green Eggs and welcome in time to play a beautiful
Friday Night. Here the Jason Smith Show with Me Mike Harmon.
No Smith tonight off gallivanting across the globe. It Instead,
we've got the stinking genius himself SNY Spanish.
Speaker 4 (00:45):
Listen to you you're doing, boy.
Speaker 5 (00:49):
I am fired up. Lots of football in the air.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
I think you and I and Ian have exchanged about
one hundred and thirty five stories over the course of
the day. We'll see how many we boil down to
when it's all said done. Some are minor little anecdotes.
Some are just fun off the wall, Hey, didn't you
know kind of things where we could I don't know,
play some games or just do a bunch of liner
notes like the back of an old album you know,
(01:14):
back when you bought an album, Arnie.
Speaker 5 (01:15):
Yeah, you pull out.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
The big booklet and all the artwork that they spent
all that time preparing and curating just for you, as
opposed to now, Hey, they're just gonna do it digitally,
get some AI image and just throw it out there,
will you?
Speaker 5 (01:28):
All right?
Speaker 6 (01:28):
Right now, from the time I spoke to you this morning,
and don't you steal this from me, we have March Madness.
I'm dubbing this free Agent Friday.
Speaker 4 (01:35):
It was crazy.
Speaker 6 (01:37):
There must have been like what five or six signings
from when we were getting ready for the show this morning.
Speaker 5 (01:44):
Oh no, it's fun.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
Obviously we'll get to the big trade momentarily. We'll talk
about Daddy's making sure all the spotlights are on them,
and all sorts of other fun stuff across this morning.
Speaker 5 (01:57):
Did I tip my hand too much? You did? Yes?
Speaker 4 (02:00):
If that's okay, here's your thank.
Speaker 5 (02:02):
You good god man.
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in the Twitter verse. As we go through, we've got
Ian Roddy sitting in. He's my podcast producer for the
iWatch Flex podcast that I do with Dan Byer, the
football savant in his own right. And we've got Alex
Tyshirt on the boards with us, of course, the omnipresent
authoritative voice of Steve Desager at the news desk. We're
honored to have you with us. Whatever you're doing here
(02:49):
on a Friday night into Saturday morning. Yeah, because we're
getting there soon enough for you on the East Coast.
We appreciate you giving us a few minutes of your time.
Take us with us, with you, with you wherever you go.
On the iHeartRadio apps, You'm so jacked up. I've got
so much caffeine coursing through the veins that it's a
whole other thing. The heart rate is elevated. Why because
Geno Smith is in the news once again. Yes, yes,
(03:13):
he has been dealt now. When you and I were
starting to exchange messages earlier this morning, Arnie. It was
a lot of the conjecture right because Wednesday is when
we finally get to see some things that we have
been rumored, consummated, some things that are out there, reported signings, dollars, cents, trades,
All of this can't happen till the league starts their
(03:33):
new year on Wednesday. But in the interim you had
every insider known demand, local and national throwing darts at
a board, about quarterbacks, about defensive ends. We'll get to
Hendrickson and the Bengals and the mess that Brown has
on his hands there in a little while. But Gino Smith,
(03:54):
Sam Darnold, two names that keep coming up. Will rope
in a couple of the other veterans as we can go.
But as the afternoon unfolded, we get the Raiders making
a trade for Gino Smith giving up a third round pick,
the ninety second overall, and so five years in Seattle,
a couple of times at the Pro Bowl, great efficiency
(04:16):
on the deep ball, spread the ball around well, had
some huge moments for them. Seahawks will save thirty one
million dollars in cash and cap space. They take on
thirteen and a half in dead money out of what
about to ninety ish to eighty ish, I think was
to eighty is where we're settling in at the salary cap.
So the Raiders had that thirty one million added on
(04:38):
Gino in contract talks as the final year was evidently
looking for that forty to fifty range and the Seahawks
sit not so much after the first season under Mike McDonald,
and again lots of great metrics coming out about Gino
and his acumen over the last couple of years and
(04:59):
what he did behind the scenes. You don't win enough,
you don't get the headlines right, you're just you become
a jag again, even if you have finally extricated yourself
from any of the ill will that formed around the
time with the Jets all those years ago. For the Raiders,
we've talked about it a bunch of Smith and I Arnie,
(05:19):
I'm sure you and you're rating Raider loving pal Chris
Plank will follow us later on today.
Speaker 5 (05:25):
Yeah, talking about Pete.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
Carroll and look, you're winning now right as much as
you're building, you're also looking to try to make some
waves right now as you go into the year bringing
in a veteran quarterback, because that's what we kept hearing
veteran quarterback, they're gonna go get one. Well, they got
their man in Gino Smith.
Speaker 4 (05:43):
Yeah they did. You know a couple things on this.
Speaker 6 (05:46):
First of all, look, I'm not the biggest Geno Smith fan,
but there's no doubt that the Raiders got an upgrade.
Speaker 4 (05:52):
I mean a big upgrade.
Speaker 6 (05:53):
They went from like a C minus D plus two
a B minus with Geno Smith. Maybe better than that.
Maybe I'm not even giving Gino his full credit. We've
always heard rumors that, you know, the Raiders may be
interested in Geno Smith because of the tie in, we
would Pete Carroll.
Speaker 5 (06:10):
Sure, those rumors were a long.
Speaker 6 (06:12):
Time ago, though I hadn't heard anything in a long
long time. And then all of a sudden this morning, boom,
here you go, here's the trade.
Speaker 4 (06:19):
Great move by the Raiders.
Speaker 6 (06:21):
And we should have known that the Raiders were gonna
go ahead and trade for quarterback or go free agency
instead of trying to trade up against Sanders or or Ward,
because let's face it, look Tom Brady's kind of heavily
involved with this team now out of his owner, and
you think he wanted to go with a rookie quarterback,
and you know, three, four, five years down the road.
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What if they made a mistake and they'd have to
start all over again. This is a good compromise. They're
gonna have to pay Gino probably about what fifty million,
forty five to fifty million. Seattle didn't want to do that,
So great move by the Raiders to get them, and
all they had to give up was a third round pay.
And now it's going to be a great move by
Seattle by getting Sam Donald. Now they're gonna have to
(07:06):
give him about the forty five to fifty million that
they didn't want to give Gino, but they probably think
he's more worth it after the year he had in Minnesota.
Speaker 3 (07:15):
Yeah, we'll talk about Donald, and that seems to be
the rumor. We're seeing a lot of nice photoshopped and
AI images of Sam Donald as a member of the
Seahawks as the Evening war on and that one begets
other questions about what they're building towards with You've got
DK Metcalf in the trade world. Do they bring back
(07:35):
Tyler Lockett on a lesser deal? Right, there's a bunch
of moving parts there as well. But stay with the Raiders.
They they give up the third round pick. So you
bring in Geno. Look, the turnover rate has been high,
but he's been pretty efficient downfield and you've seen him
make some plays with the Seahawks. Now you had a
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robust receiving room here, Jacoby Myers, you got Brock Bauers
as your starting points and then you start to work
from there. I'm about the opinion, like, as much as
I love the idea of that rookie quarterback, and yes
we get them on the cheap and all that, if
you don't have an infrastructure built, it's not really helping you.
We watched it last year with the Bears, right, a
(08:19):
lot of splashy moves, a lot of great stuff on
the outside, and players that you get kind of fired up.
Whatever you thought of Keenan Allen in his final couple years,
whether he goes back to the Chargers or stays in
Chicago remains to be seen. But you bring in Rome Adonsay,
you bring in and made that big trade for DJ
Moore the year before. All of that it that it
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looks great on paper. Unfortunately you didn't have enough guys
that could block for Caleb Williams and he wasn't ready
for prime time in terms of reading and analyzing and
pushing the ball downfield right most throws at or near
the line of scrimmage. When you do the shot chart,
it's really depressing. You see plus sixty eight sacks. How
(09:01):
many of those are his fault? The number of other
hits whatever. So within this year they immediately go and
grab a couple of linemen. Same thing with the Raiders.
You've got a pretty good offensive line. You already resigned
Max Crosby, so Gino's not even the face of the team.
The face of the teams Max Crossby. So so you
got that going for you. Now you can work on
the infrastructure and build from there and play the longer game,
(09:27):
as it were, in terms of finding the right quarterbacks
as much as they they may have been enamored or
Mike Mark Davis certainly seemed enamored with Shador Sanders. Do
I rule out categorically that they don't draft him, No,
because they're the Raiders, and even with Tom Brady in
the fold, you never can tell. But Spytech and Davis,
(09:47):
I gotta think you know you're you're working up the
master plan because you're a bottom feeder in the AFC West.
This move doesn't push you forward, but too terribly much.
But you're starting to get a little bit of conversation
and excitement in the desert.
Speaker 4 (10:03):
You don't say it's interesting, you say that.
Speaker 6 (10:04):
I was just about to tell you the Raiders had
to make this move, because, let's be honest, as much
as I think that Kansas City is going to come
back to earth, and they are, they're certainly, you know,
getting an next three year up there. I don't think
Kelsey's gonna be great, but that's beside the point. The
Chargers are on the incline. The Broncos are on the incline.
The Raiders didn't want to get left behind. They had
(10:25):
four wins last year. They're like, we got to do
something to get above five hundred. We have to be
a nine to eighteen to compete for a playoff spot.
So they said, the Chargers are moving up, the Broncos
are moving up. We know how good Kansas City is.
We got to make a move. Look how difference two
organizations make. Remember when Washington made their move, everybody's like
Philadelphia Washington. Now they're the key of the NFC. So
(10:48):
I said, Dallas is the biggest loser. They didn't do anything.
They're not keeping up with the Joneses, No pun attended.
They're not keeping up. Look what the Raiders did. They said,
we want to keep up. They got themselves a quarterback.
The Cowboys said, you know, we don't care. I guess
we will pretend like we want to keep up and
they don't make any move.
Speaker 4 (11:07):
That's the difference right there.
Speaker 3 (11:09):
Cowboys will be curious as we get things flowing into
the new year. Right they did free up a lot
of money. They still have to sign Micah Parsons and
push forward from there. Jerry Jones' comments about free agency
not really being the place.
Speaker 6 (11:23):
He was shocked that he said that, I would why
would you say that? Even first of all, even if
it's true, why would you say that. It's it's draft
time and you're supposed to lie, we expect you to lie.
Why to us, like, what do you doing? Why why
would you even say that that free agency? And maybe
he just could be tried to be completely honest because
(11:44):
he just doesn't.
Speaker 4 (11:44):
Want to spend the money. I don't know what's going
through his mind.
Speaker 6 (11:47):
I figure when owners get older, they don't mind spending
the money because they only have so many more years
left to try to win it.
Speaker 4 (11:54):
I don't understand what's going on.
Speaker 3 (11:55):
It's funny you say that that's a question. I'll ask
about another team going to the af seaside in a
little while. But with Jerry Jones, remember this is the
guy that after the first day of the draft last year,
went out of his way to talk about how excited
he was that Jonathan Brooks was still on the board,
only to watch him get drafted by Carolina. Now he
hurt his leg and was gone for the year. But
(12:16):
the point just taking Jerry sometimes can't get away from
a microphone fast enough. We'll have more on this trade,
the ramifications, and the spin the wheel of veteran quarterbacks
as we go. But as we continue here sticking genius one,
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Last night, as Smith and I were watching what was
a hotly contested game Lakers Nicks live here from Los Angeles, I.
Speaker 6 (13:58):
Was fummed about that guy was really I was watching that.
I got it all into it and then we just
fell apart. But go ahead, it was hard.
Speaker 3 (14:05):
We literally had a loser's leaves town match between our
executive producer, Justin Frossberg and Jason Smith. The loser was
going to have to go running into the night, and
then I reminded Smith that his name was on the
show and that I could really destroy him for a
good hour plus if things went south. So we kind
(14:25):
of retracted that, but he was still going to banish
Frostburg from the production booth. Ty Shirt was a little
mad when the Lakers went onto that one thirteen one
oh nine victory because he meant he had company for
the rest of the night and couldn't blare his music
the way he wanted to. Now as we're watching it,
the villain in all of this comes back to Josh
(14:45):
Hart with some bad decision making in the final second. Yeah,
second of regulation. Doesn't get the shot off in times not.
Speaker 4 (14:52):
All his fault.
Speaker 6 (14:53):
Brunson got him the ball a little bit too late,
so I will say that they did double teams. He
got in a bad position and gave gave it up
all too eight.
Speaker 3 (15:02):
He took an extra dribble because he got wide eyed
seeing Luca right Luca on defense. Now, I'm not gonna
say he hasn't had a couple of flashes, but it's
still the opportunity to go against Luca went for the
extra dribble and before he can get the shot off,
as Lebron came over to contest, Uh, doesn't get it off.
The red light goes on. So we get to overtime
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and we always question, you know, hey, inevitability of injuries. No,
not this one, because with one twenty four left on
the clock, Jalen Bronson goes to the hole, tries to
make something happen, and then in that moment, this line
flashed from a movie that I've seen a million times
(15:44):
spens in.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
The Force, as if millions of voices suddenly cried out
in terror and was suddenly silenced.
Speaker 3 (15:51):
I feel something terrible has happened.
Speaker 5 (15:54):
Yeah, there you have it.
Speaker 4 (15:55):
You've been waiting to play that for so long.
Speaker 5 (15:57):
Well, you know what, it just is so appropriate.
Speaker 3 (15:59):
The great out like Guinness Obi wan Kenobi as older
On is destroyed spoiler alert nineteen seventy seven. If you
haven't seen it, check your pulse. You gotta go do
some living. But all of that to say, I heard
every Knicks fan I watched my Twitter role. I almost
saw the whale tail come up, which I have not
seen in a while because there was so much activity
(16:21):
of my God, and then trying to figure it out.
They had a challenge of whether it should have been
a filed Well, Luca kind of did a judo chop
to Brunson's chest as he went by, but that would
have been filed number.
Speaker 5 (16:32):
Six, so that can't happen.
Speaker 3 (16:34):
It gets contested and ends up landing, and I didn't
see replays.
Speaker 5 (16:38):
They didn't really do a lot of replay on like
one which.
Speaker 4 (16:42):
We got to see one with the rolled ankle. You
did get to see one of.
Speaker 3 (16:44):
Them, but just generally we don't get them a lot anymore, Arnie,
Like when there's an injury in the guy's down, you
get the live you might get one more look, but
it's not like once upon a time here, let me
watch you watch this guy get hit from the side repeatedly.
Look football games, or guys get and swatted in the
paint and dusted and knocked to the court.
Speaker 5 (17:04):
So we didn't see it.
Speaker 3 (17:05):
And then it started to make the rounds on socials,
you see the angle that Jalen Brunson's ankle took and
sham Sharania reported and soon confirmed and retweeted and reposted
by others that he's expected to miss at least two weeks.
Jalen Bronson not Champs with a right ankle sprain. So
(17:26):
the human body continues to just astound me, because I
saw that in you know, some of the Twitter doctors,
and you take them all with a grain of salt,
but you know they've seen enough and made enough repairs
and examinations that they're certainly more more appropriate to give
you an estimation than I am.
Speaker 5 (17:44):
But all of that is like, wow, just two weeks, huh?
At least two weeks.
Speaker 3 (17:48):
But you know what was funny in terms of the
timing of the report, It literally came out the same
minute the Gino Smith trade went down. It's like, oh,
you got that, I got this, So now we got
a battle once again.
Speaker 5 (17:59):
You know what.
Speaker 4 (17:59):
I saw a couple of reports.
Speaker 6 (18:01):
First of all, somebody said he could be out to
the start of the playoffs. Then there was the two
week thing. Then I saw one that says, well, we'll
reevaluate him in two weeks. I think I'm gonna believe
that one will they'll kind of reevaluate him in two weeks.
I don't expect him to get back on the court
in two weeks. Look pretty serious. I mean, I thought
it was gonna be a lot worse than that. I
(18:22):
think in the end, if it's only about two to
three weeks, maybe it could be a blessing in disguise
where he takes some of the minutes away from him
and rest his body and gets ready for the playoffs.
That's if he's back in two or three weeks. If
he's held out to the playoffs, then there's no silver
lining at this whatsoever. It's gonna be real tough for
the Knicks to do anything. This was gonna be Look,
(18:45):
this was gonna be tough going anyway. They've played so
bad against all the top teams. It's absolutely disgusting. But
I hated to see that. If they would have just
ended things in the regulation, none of this stuff would
have happened. Hopefully, Brunson's gonna be back in two weeks.
I think it's going to be longer though, Mike, I
think it's going to be more like three, maybe longer
(19:06):
than that.
Speaker 3 (19:06):
Yeah, I'm really hoping. I didn't cause any issues for
Josh Hart. Although in New York I'm sure he's wearing
it already for not finishing the job or at least
getting a shot off.
Speaker 5 (19:15):
Just get the shot off. What happens from there.
Speaker 4 (19:17):
He shouldn't have driven.
Speaker 6 (19:18):
He should have just shot the jumper when he got
the ball, I think less than two seconds after about
two seconds, last.
Speaker 5 (19:25):
Two seconds, last, Yeah, he should have just shot it.
Got wide, you were and you were open.
Speaker 4 (19:29):
He was open.
Speaker 6 (19:30):
So just shoot the ball, shoot the jumper, and and
you know, at that point, deliver.
Speaker 4 (19:35):
Or die if you make it. That's what I would
have done.
Speaker 5 (19:37):
Strength, Strength.
Speaker 3 (19:38):
The schedule remaining for the Knicks for their twenty games
is about five hundred, So you've got some heavy weights,
and then you've still got some games against the sinking Spurs,
the Blazers, and who've been up and down. Right, they
had a good run for a while, and on any
given Sunday, any given night, can still give you a fight.
We look at the standings where you're sitting right now,
(19:59):
third in the East. Couple of games that had of
the streaking Bucks, they're eight and two in their last ten.
Yanna's had his twenty thousand point. Nobody cared. Although I
liked their little montage they did for him because it
I saw him drafted and he looked like he was
what ten did you see that?
Speaker 6 (20:16):
They were mad because nobody put it out anything that
Yana scored what was his ten pointer or something to that.
Nobody said anything. They had won eight to nine, Nobody
was saying anything about that. Lil is having a better.
Speaker 4 (20:31):
Season than Steph Curry.
Speaker 6 (20:33):
Everybody said he's washed up, and everybody's kind of forgetting
about what's going on with Milwaukee.
Speaker 4 (20:38):
Hopefully the Knicks hang on to the number three seed.
Speaker 6 (20:42):
You don't want to be number four and have to
play Cleveland in the first round, but what the heck?
Either way, it's it's not going to be an easy
case for them anyway.
Speaker 3 (20:49):
Well, the difficulty and you saw it, and it was
only a minute twenty four, so not exactly a robust
sample size, but you had a lot of guys standing
around trying to figure out who the hell was going
to deal with the ball after Brunson went out right
the concerning right, I get it, Thibodeau runs a very
short rotation, very ball.
Speaker 5 (21:09):
That's crazy ball dominant Bronson.
Speaker 3 (21:12):
But when you're looking around, like those final possessions were awkward,
it was like the first practice of a new season,
new kids trying out for the team.
Speaker 5 (21:21):
Here, run a play? What player we run it? I
don't know what he plays.
Speaker 3 (21:25):
So finishing that game against the Lakers was just really
kind of uncomfortable. But you look at where they sit
right now forty twenty two. They're three and a half
games ahead of Milwaukee. You might be Indiana and Detroit
behind them.
Speaker 6 (21:40):
It may be better if they finished up at the
four seed. I think I'd rather play Cleveland than have
to play the Celtics, though either either way, it's not
going to be a jazzy run anyway.
Speaker 3 (21:50):
Yeah, both teams really deep. I mean you saw what
the Celtics have been doing. It's like, hey, you want
to play tonight, now you go. So you get Brown
plays one night and Pritchard White go insane, and then
brown sits the next night, Tatum reinserts himself with a
thirty five point performance. So it's it's the pick your
poison and the depth, especially when you look at a
(22:11):
guy like Pritchard off the bench that can.
Speaker 5 (22:13):
Light it up.
Speaker 4 (22:13):
You know what I was gonna say about that, Mike.
Speaker 5 (22:15):
So some of these other teams don't have that.
Speaker 6 (22:17):
You know when you said Pritchard, I loved them when
they took him out. I think it was Oregon and
I was telling, you know, playing this is a great move,
that they're gonna love him years down the line. It
just goes to show you why in a long regular
season with eighty two games, why the guys number six, seven, eight, ten,
off the bench eleven twelve, Why these guys can't play
(22:37):
a big factor in like a back to back game
or something like that. Why they have to sit on
the bench all eighty two games. You know, unless it's
a thirty point blowout, they're that bad. You're only paying
millions of dollars and you can't get him into a
game to make a difference for five minutes or something.
Speaker 4 (22:54):
I never understood that, Mike. I think it's absolutely crazy.
Speaker 3 (22:58):
Back end first round pick in twenty twenty averaging fourteen
points a game for rebounds, three and a half assists,
and shooting about forty eight percent from the field. Uh
this year. But your point very well taken, right. Whenever
you run with the short rotations, that's that's what you
do in the playoffs. Yeah, sure, you shorten it, and
now you're in the regular season thirty guys. But during
(23:19):
the regular season we talk about the wear and tear,
and me speaking from first hand experience of watching and
living and dying with some of those Thibodeaux squads in
Chicago that were pretty good. Those guys had nothing left,
right Joe Kim Noah and some of those guys that
were playing, they they played with great heart, but by
the fourth quarter of most games, you waited for them
(23:40):
to trip over their tongues or their shoelaces. They were
playing so many minutes and we're watching the same thing
with your beloved Nicks. Oh you can see it, you
can see it coming away.
Speaker 5 (23:50):
Yeah, yeah, and it will.
Speaker 4 (23:52):
Take its toll on you.
Speaker 6 (23:52):
That's why maybe it's good that he'll sit out. You
just don't want them the roll is ankle and become
anything serious. They said, it doesn't look that way. So
hopefully he'll just rest on up, get his body ready,
and we'll see what I've been coming playoff time. But
even with him in the lineup, the Knicks were like,
oh and twelve against the top two seats.
Speaker 4 (24:10):
It was crazy. It was tart.
Speaker 5 (24:12):
Yeah, it's it's a very dark. It's I'm going to
go to.
Speaker 4 (24:16):
A game late like two three weeks. I'm gonna go
down to New York and go to a game.
Speaker 5 (24:20):
Are you really? Yeah?
Speaker 6 (24:21):
Do I get free tickets? Do I say? I think
like I'm covering the game or no?
Speaker 5 (24:25):
Going?
Speaker 3 (24:25):
Uh, We've got channels up in the Fox Sports Radio studios.
There's a producer I'll get you in touch with.
Speaker 4 (24:31):
I want to take my son. YEA, yeah, I tell
you well.
Speaker 3 (24:34):
I mean claim he's your cameraman. That seems to work.
What did I say something wrong? At one at Swollen
Dome at Fox Sports Radio. Here, as we roll forward
the Jason Smith Show with Me, Mike Carman, Jason off tonight,
It'll be back on Monday, as we get ready for
(24:55):
the opening bell of the new trading week in the
National Football Income Wednesday, as the new calendar kicks off
and we get full on into free agency and these
trades get consummated because the next few few days are
gonna be insane, no question about it. But while while
we're in the NBA, we've got some bigger topics, you know,
(25:15):
the father and son. I should play the Cat Stevens
song under me while I talk later off. But all
of that to say, you know, those top six picks
are to top six seeds. I should say we've been
talking a lot Detroit Smith and I because he picked
them for greatness about three years ago. He was clearly
ahead of where he needed to be in that regard.
(25:37):
But they're eight and two in their last ten to
get to the sixth seed, and you're seeing Cad Cunningham
and what he can be Pacers after some early struggles,
playing pretty well of late up to thirty five wins
on the Yes, they're seventeen games behind Cleveland. Cleveland with
another narrow win tonight, but that's a squad that got
(25:58):
was deep. And then they went and they added DeAndre
Hunter because I'm that nerd watching him that twenty nineteen
draft class, Arnie. I'm heavily invested in in the trading
card world. In other words, I bought because I was bored.
And so they're stacks of these guys sitting.
Speaker 4 (26:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (26:16):
Yeah, Well, so I keep keep.
Speaker 3 (26:17):
An eye idea of where these guys go. And so
when DeAndre Hunter gets out of Atlanta and goes to
a winner, I'm like, hey, those might actually have some value.
Now go back and pick those up. But fifteen six
and four off the bench, as they get a one
point win over Charlotte. So a nice trade deadline acquisition there.
Speaker 6 (26:34):
If you flip flop the number two seeds with the
number one seeds, that means you made the Celtics and
the Lakers the number one seed and gave them fifty
two wins and fifty three wins. We'd be clamoring about
the NBA like you wouldn't believe. It'd be like the
new sport found And I know, Bark, we got all
upset about this.
Speaker 4 (26:55):
We'll probably get to this later on.
Speaker 5 (26:57):
Oh you're there, just stay with it now, we'll look.
Speaker 4 (27:02):
I'm a I'm a basketball snob.
Speaker 6 (27:04):
I want the Celtics, the Knicks, the Lakers, you know,
Detroit teams like that to play. Well, I'm not into
Cleveland in Oklahoma City. My partners, you mentioned Chris Planke
lives out there in Oklahoma City.
Speaker 4 (27:20):
Good for him.
Speaker 6 (27:21):
They're happy out there. We want to see the Celtics
against the Lakers. We want to see the Knicks against
the Lakers. People want to see the big boys, their
basketball snobs.
Speaker 4 (27:34):
No disrespect against Cleveland.
Speaker 6 (27:36):
I guess it is a disrespect against Cleveland and Oklahoma City.
They just don't move the needle. Do you understand, Mikey,
you know what I'm talking about. You do it five
days a week. You'd rather who do you think the
commissioners rooting for the Celtics and the Knicks and the
Lakers or Cleveland and Oklahoma City?
Speaker 4 (27:53):
And tell me, could you.
Speaker 6 (27:54):
Imagine, like I said, if the Lakers had fifty two
wins and the Celtics had fifty three wins and they
were both had that type of record, my good, our
Golden State was up there after what they've been doing.
Now we'd be talking about the NBA like it was
the newfound sport. But yet because we have Cleveland and
Oklahoma City, we're basketball snobs about it.
Speaker 3 (28:14):
Well, I think there's something to it. Of Look at
the end, we're broadcasting. One of the things Steve de
Sager does with us, and I know he does it
with you and Chris Is you know, keeps an eye
on what television ratings are, what the eyeballs are. Clearly,
you know when we're talking the old play the hits,
my man, like you've been told that for as long
as you and I and anybody's been in the business,
(28:36):
that doesn't mean that we don't get to talk about
our own personal interest stories. I'm a Chicago fan. Are
they relevant in any way? The Bears are the Bears
always are because they're in a historic franchise. There's a lot
of Bears fans out there, and people love to laugh
at a big team that's losing. Right, That's what we
do with the Cowboys, historic brands, the Raiders for all
these years.
Speaker 5 (28:56):
Right, they don't. You don't have to be good.
Speaker 3 (28:58):
The cow you but yeah, you had the history right
that stays with you and has gone global as the
game went global.
Speaker 5 (29:05):
But when we talk about Oklahoma.
Speaker 3 (29:07):
City, Cleveland, Look the ratings were there San Antonio dynastic, right,
we used that term generational, dynastic, all of those big
words to describe teams and their efficiency and their dominance.
Did anybody outside of us covering it? How many people
really went out of the way, Hey, the Spurs are on,
(29:29):
I want to go watch the big fundamental They.
Speaker 4 (29:31):
Were boring champions, man, we did. We weren't big.
Speaker 6 (29:33):
We weren't big into San Antonio. They weren't moving the
needle as much as the big cities like New York
and Boston and Los Angeles and places like that.
Speaker 4 (29:42):
Mike that's for sure.
Speaker 5 (29:43):
But that's it.
Speaker 3 (29:43):
Right, So you get a story and we joked about
it during super Bowl week, right, everybody's on radio row
and doing all the media stuff in New Orleans. Meanwhile
you've got the NBA trade deadline that actually had a
bunch of big names move and a bunch of big
stories that flew out of it. So it kind of
dwarfed whatever was going on because we had no we
(30:04):
had no arrests, we had no big controversies. We didn't
too bad for you guys, But there were New Orleans, right,
you're expecting something bad to happen.
Speaker 5 (30:13):
Nothing happened.
Speaker 3 (30:14):
But you know, you didn't get any big inflammatory quotes
from either team like it. It just kind of flowed.
People did the corporate thing. Hey, I'll tell you a
little bit about my season. Now, I'm gonna tell you, you know,
don't drink draino. You should to uncloud your pipe. I mean,
you know that kind of thing.
Speaker 6 (30:30):
So took center stage over in the NFL during Super
Bowl week.
Speaker 5 (30:36):
But that's it.
Speaker 3 (30:36):
But but that's it right this we we we complained
and complained and complained about the NBA, and then for
a week it was great. Well, these trades went down,
we got back to complaining about the NBA once they
started playing again because it went out of the All
Star break and all the mess that that was. So
people were back to just yelling at each other off
who could have the hottest take about what you do
(30:57):
with the All Star Game? Nausey sports talk. Glad that
we were able to avoid a bunch of it, and
we got to watch the Four Nation Cup on the
hockey side and talk a bunch about that, which I'm
sure I had some program directors trying to eject us
along the way. But all of that to say, Arnie,
we were back to hating the game. But then you
(31:18):
get Luca, you get Jimmy Butler, now you got Steph
Curry's reinvigorated, Nicole de Jokics doing some things. So you're
seeing Denver on the surge so and then Boston doing
what they are. So Cleveland and Oklahoma City get to
be part of that mix, but they're certainly not driving
the bus.
Speaker 6 (31:34):
No. And you know, Mike, I know everybody watches the
NFL Draft. I think the numbers were like ten million
people last year. This year, there's not a big quarterback run.
So maybe the numbers are a little bit down or
maybe the same. But the NBA has a unique opportunity
that once the playoffs start to recapture the sports world,
what are they gonna have to do. They're gonna have
to make sure that the schedule is made where you
(31:56):
get you know, like Golden State's playing one day, the
Lakers are on a different day, maybe the Knicks on
one day, the Celtics on another day, and none of
this three and a half weeks off and stuff like that.
You can't have teams taking three four days off between games.
Speaker 4 (32:11):
I remember last year, wasn't there like six days off?
Speaker 5 (32:15):
What did you get into some of those gaps? Well?
Speaker 3 (32:18):
As you get towards because the finals are always set
in stone right right off, everything finishes early and you're screwed.
I'm really glad you expounded on that point because I
was nervous and I know, sure as hell over at
the news desk, the legendary Steve de Seger was a
little bit nervous about like you were calling for a fix.
(32:39):
You were calling for a fixer to come in in
terms of the matchups in the first route, Steve Arnie
making me nervous early on.
Speaker 7 (32:44):
A Friday, No, I wasn't, but there you go. It
took only a couple of segments. You're working with Arnie
for that to come out.
Speaker 5 (32:52):
The SEGA lead.
Speaker 6 (32:53):
With Arizona beating Kansas tomorrow, would you lead with that
one please?
Speaker 7 (32:57):
Well, of course we do have your Nicks on while
Arnie is on, so he's gonna take the Wildcat's place
of losing while Arnie is on the air. By the way,
last Friday night, when the ESPN had, of course NBA,
what were the ratings, They had Lakers Clippers and got
one point nine million, and the next night they had
thunder Spurs and it was one point.
Speaker 4 (33:17):
Two million viewers.
Speaker 7 (33:18):
Ah geez enough said, we have a late game just
starting up with the Clippers hosting New York. Jalen Brunson
and the Knicks out at least two weeks with the
sprained ankle suffered last night. Wins this evening for Memphis
and Minnesota Toronto as well to Arnie's delight, Oklahoma City
has won its six straight game and Cleveland has won
its thirteenth in a row. Okay See without Shay Giljis Alexander,
(33:40):
who was rested, still beat Portland and Cleveland won at Charlotte,
fact nine straight losses for the Hornets, even though Miles
Bridge has scored forty six points. There was college basketball
on Fox TV at Illinois. The home team beat number
eighteen per Due eighty eight to eighty and right now
at number sixteen Memphis, it's the Tigers fifty eight over
(34:01):
South Florida. In Women's Basketball Conference tournament week victories for
number one Texas, wins for USC and UCLA. Michigan upset
number fifteen Maryland. Right now in the final seconds, Iowa
has taken the lead on thirteenth ranked Ohio State fifty
nine to fifty eight in a Big Ten Tournament quarterfinal.
Among the six NHL games, Winnipeg a six to one
(34:22):
winner at New Jersey. The NHL's trade deadline was today.
Defending champion Florida acquired Brad Marshall and Boston Boy, assuming
he's back before the playoffs. Absolutely it is Detroit at
Washington tonight. Caps take that one five to two. And Yes,
the Seahawks traded quarterback Gino Smith to the Raiders, where
he'll play for coach Pete Carroll. Seattle gets a third rounder.
(34:45):
Smith has one year left on his deal for now,
and yes, quarterback Sam Darnold is available. The new league
year starts March twelfth in the NFL.
Speaker 5 (34:54):
Back to you, thanks so much.
Speaker 3 (34:55):
Steve at the news desk with us all night. Ian
and Alex making a sound so pretty. He's the Stinking
genius at Stink and Genius one on X.
Speaker 5 (35:04):
Find me over at Swollen Dome.
Speaker 3 (35:05):
I'm Mike Carmon as we hang out with you here
Friday into Saturday. Coming up next a story that has
me thinking of an old Sting profile on sixty minutes.
Speaker 5 (35:16):
What the hell am I talking about?
Speaker 3 (35:17):
Yes, another old reference that'll get you pondering this next
topic as we turn to the NFL. He's Alnie, I'm Mike,
and this is Fox.
Speaker 2 (35:27):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven
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Speaker 3 (35:34):
Welcome back in a live from the tyrac dot Com
Fox Sports Radio Studios. It's the Jason Smith Show with
Me Mike Harmon. No Jason Smith tonight, Arnie Span your
our buddy in gracious to sit with us, broadcasting legend.
We're blessed to have him with us. That's as much
as I'm gonna wash him up at Stick and Genius
one if you want to do that or disagree or
(35:54):
yell at both of us. Some commentary coming in a
little bit over the Genos myth story that we started the.
Speaker 5 (36:01):
Hour with his trade to the Raiders.
Speaker 3 (36:03):
Will continue to keep an eye on on socials and
integrate them into the show as we circle back to
that a little later. Mark Stein's gonna join us in
the third hour talking all things NBA. But we go
back to the NFL, the NFL Draft, the silly season,
all the rumor, conjecture, speculation, and coming out of the combine,
the the talk of well, we didn't love that guy,
(36:24):
we didn't like that guy.
Speaker 5 (36:25):
But a lot of it goes back to Shador Sanders.
Speaker 3 (36:27):
He seems to be bearing the brunt of it, and
he and his father, well, they took to the video
streams and they had their commentary about well, Deane had
a theory about why why you the.
Speaker 2 (36:40):
Only kid that hay No, why you the only kid
in the draft potential first pigs or whatever?
Speaker 4 (36:46):
Big they no, why are you the only one?
Speaker 2 (36:48):
Because you find time.
Speaker 4 (36:50):
Now because they want you to slide to the eighteen
This game.
Speaker 5 (36:55):
Game, But we know the game. We sounded his baby.
There you go. We're saying, baby, you know.
Speaker 6 (37:01):
What, don't knock like this is something new. Every year
we get this. This guy's sliding, this guy's moving up,
this guy's going down. We didn't like this guy's attitude.
This guy may have an injury, this guy has a
off field problem. This guy didn't know this, this guy
had a bad wonder Wick exam. Any reason to drop
these guys down so a team could take him. That happens,
(37:24):
and and they'll live, manipulate and.
Speaker 4 (37:26):
Do everything there.
Speaker 6 (37:26):
This is nothing new. Dion's right. They probably want you
to do it, to slide a little bit so a
team could take him. But don't act like you know
it's any conspiracy theory that we're just doing it because
it's Deon's kid. This goes on all the time with
every position, every player. They just want to go ahead,
and I mean, heck you the number one pickle Carter.
(37:50):
We don't know if this guy needs a surgery, doesn't
need surgery, stressed fact, fracture, all kinds of stuff. So, uh,
there's there's rumors on just about everybody out there.
Speaker 3 (38:00):
Well, it goes to the with him it's at least
an injury, and you're trying to figure out which of
the thirty opinions matters.
Speaker 5 (38:07):
Yeah, exactly what you need to do with it physically.
Speaker 3 (38:10):
When it comes to Sanders, it becomes the he may
not be for everyone kind of idea.
Speaker 5 (38:15):
Right.
Speaker 3 (38:15):
The quote that was out there from the Athletic quote
hit the wrong notes. In Combine interviews, unquote, Mary kay
Cabin of the Cleveland Plain deal Dealer noted members of
the organization said they were impressed. They liked Sanders at
the East West Shrine Bowl. The Combine quote. They didn't
find them to be arrogant or brash, but confident and engaging.
They liked all of the good things his Hall of
(38:36):
Fame dad did and poured into him, appreciated its own guy,
et cetera.
Speaker 5 (38:41):
Who leadership goes through.
Speaker 6 (38:42):
Yeah, who did he say, I'm not going to even
talk to you because you're not even picking in the
top ten or top five or something like that.
Speaker 5 (38:48):
I don't know that that was real.
Speaker 3 (38:51):
Those are always ones that start circulating, and you got
to make sure you're not NFL sentelled.
Speaker 6 (38:57):
Because because I'm say, if they wanted to trade up
and get them, then you know, so.
Speaker 4 (39:03):
You have to speak to even if somebody, even if
it's Kansas City, who knows if they don't want to
trade up and get you.
Speaker 3 (39:09):
Well, but it's the kind of thing that you are
waiting to see. And look, you got to play the
game too, right, if you're a player and you're gonna
be more engaged with some teams than others, and being
engaged with Cleveland, they're the number two pick as it
stands right now. But it goes back to a great
to be great at anything, right, you've got to have
(39:30):
some level of hubris, you know, being in our business, right,
steven a who will talk about in a few minutes
he signs one hundred million dollars deal. You gotta have
some some confidence that some folks might decide might be
a little too much. I think back to an old
profile they did of sting On sixty minutes and towards
the end they decided to play word association. See what
(39:51):
he would do. And he starts going back and forth,
you know, breakfast blah blah blah blah blah. And there's
a pause and he goes arrogant and Stings smiles, gets
that little devil's grin the eyebrow goes up and he
goes guilty.
Speaker 6 (40:05):
Well, let's see if Sadr is laughing and thinking he's
arrogant when he's going to be the third quarterback taken
in this year's draft and not the second quarterback taken.
Speaker 3 (40:14):
But as we know, you always need one of those.
So what does that mean he goes third in the draft?
Speaker 5 (40:19):
Arnie, no, Josh.
Speaker 4 (40:20):
I think Jason Jackson Dartwell.
Speaker 3 (40:22):
Jackson dart Well. So that's the thing, right, is Shad
ahead of him? Cam Ward is the clear wand to
some we shall find out he's Arnie Spanier.
Speaker 5 (40:31):
I'm Mike Harmon.
Speaker 3 (40:32):
As we continue here on Fox Sports Radio, we go
back to the NBA and the confrontation scene around the world.
Speaker 5 (40:41):
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Speaker 3 (00:29):
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Speaker 4 (00:45):
Listen to you you're doing, boy.
Speaker 5 (00:49):
I am fired up. Lots of football in the air.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
I think you and I and Ian have exchanged about
one hundred and thirty five stories over the course of
the day. We'll see how many we boil down to
when it's all said done. Some are minor little anecdotes.
Some are just fun off the wall, Hey, didn't you
know kind of things where we could I don't know,
play some games or just do a bunch of liner
notes like the back of an old album you know,
(01:14):
back when you bought an album, Arnie.
Speaker 5 (01:15):
Yeah, you pull out.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
The big booklet and all the artwork that they spent
all that time preparing and curating just for you, as
opposed to now, Hey, they're just gonna do it digitally,
get some AI image and just throw it out there,
will you?
Speaker 5 (01:28):
All right?
Speaker 6 (01:28):
Right now, from the time I spoke to you this morning,
and don't you steal this from me, we have March Madness.
I'm dubbing this free Agent Friday.
Speaker 4 (01:35):
It was crazy.
Speaker 6 (01:37):
There must have been like what five or six signings
from when we were getting ready for the show this morning.
Speaker 5 (01:44):
Oh no, it's fun.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
Obviously we'll get to the big trade momentarily. We'll talk
about Daddy's making sure all the spotlights are on them,
and all sorts of other fun stuff across this morning.
Speaker 5 (01:57):
Did I tip my hand too much? You did? Yes?
Speaker 4 (02:00):
If that's okay, here's your thank.
Speaker 5 (02:02):
You good god man.
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(02:28):
in the Twitter verse. As we go through, we've got
Ian Roddy sitting in. He's my podcast producer for the
iWatch Flex podcast that I do with Dan Byer, the
football savant in his own right. And we've got Alex
Tyshirt on the boards with us, of course, the omnipresent
authoritative voice of Steve Desager at the news desk. We're
honored to have you with us. Whatever you're doing here
(02:49):
on a Friday night into Saturday morning. Yeah, because we're
getting there soon enough for you on the East Coast.
We appreciate you giving us a few minutes of your time.
Take us with us, with you, with you wherever you go.
On the iHeartRadio apps, You'm so jacked up. I've got
so much caffeine coursing through the veins that it's a
whole other thing. The heart rate is elevated. Why because
Geno Smith is in the news once again. Yes, yes,
(03:13):
he has been dealt now. When you and I were
starting to exchange messages earlier this morning, Arnie. It was
a lot of the conjecture right because Wednesday is when
we finally get to see some things that we have
been rumored, consummated, some things that are out there, reported signings, dollars, cents, trades,
All of this can't happen till the league starts their
(03:33):
new year on Wednesday. But in the interim you had
every insider known demand, local and national throwing darts at
a board, about quarterbacks, about defensive ends. We'll get to
Hendrickson and the Bengals and the mess that Brown has
on his hands there in a little while. But Gino Smith,
(03:54):
Sam Darnold, two names that keep coming up. Will rope
in a couple of the other veterans as we can go.
But as the afternoon unfolded, we get the Raiders making
a trade for Gino Smith giving up a third round pick,
the ninety second overall, and so five years in Seattle,
a couple of times at the Pro Bowl, great efficiency
(04:16):
on the deep ball, spread the ball around well, had
some huge moments for them. Seahawks will save thirty one
million dollars in cash and cap space. They take on
thirteen and a half in dead money out of what
about to ninety ish to eighty ish, I think was
to eighty is where we're settling in at the salary cap.
So the Raiders had that thirty one million added on
(04:38):
Gino in contract talks as the final year was evidently
looking for that forty to fifty range and the Seahawks
sit not so much after the first season under Mike McDonald,
and again lots of great metrics coming out about Gino
and his acumen over the last couple of years and
(04:59):
what he did behind the scenes. You don't win enough,
you don't get the headlines right, you're just you become
a jag again, even if you have finally extricated yourself
from any of the ill will that formed around the
time with the Jets all those years ago. For the Raiders,
we've talked about it a bunch of Smith and I Arnie,
(05:19):
I'm sure you and you're rating Raider loving pal Chris
Plank will follow us later on today.
Speaker 5 (05:25):
Yeah, talking about Pete.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
Carroll and look, you're winning now right as much as
you're building, you're also looking to try to make some
waves right now as you go into the year bringing
in a veteran quarterback, because that's what we kept hearing
veteran quarterback, they're gonna go get one. Well, they got
their man in Gino Smith.
Speaker 4 (05:43):
Yeah they did. You know a couple things on this.
Speaker 6 (05:46):
First of all, look, I'm not the biggest Geno Smith fan,
but there's no doubt that the Raiders got an upgrade.
Speaker 4 (05:52):
I mean a big upgrade.
Speaker 6 (05:53):
They went from like a C minus D plus two
a B minus with Geno Smith. Maybe better than that.
Maybe I'm not even giving Gino his full credit. We've
always heard rumors that, you know, the Raiders may be
interested in Geno Smith because of the tie in, we
would Pete Carroll.
Speaker 5 (06:10):
Sure, those rumors were a long.
Speaker 6 (06:12):
Time ago, though I hadn't heard anything in a long
long time. And then all of a sudden this morning, boom,
here you go, here's the trade.
Speaker 4 (06:19):
Great move by the Raiders.
Speaker 6 (06:21):
And we should have known that the Raiders were gonna
go ahead and trade for quarterback or go free agency
instead of trying to trade up against Sanders or or Ward,
because let's face it, look Tom Brady's kind of heavily
involved with this team now out of his owner, and
you think he wanted to go with a rookie quarterback,
and you know, three, four, five years down the road.
(06:43):
What if they made a mistake and they'd have to
start all over again. This is a good compromise. They're
gonna have to pay Gino probably about what fifty million,
forty five to fifty million. Seattle didn't want to do that,
So great move by the Raiders to get them, and
all they had to give up was a third round pay.
And now it's going to be a great move by
Seattle by getting Sam Donald. Now they're gonna have to
(07:06):
give him about the forty five to fifty million that
they didn't want to give Gino, but they probably think
he's more worth it after the year he had in Minnesota.
Speaker 3 (07:15):
Yeah, we'll talk about Donald, and that seems to be
the rumor. We're seeing a lot of nice photoshopped and
AI images of Sam Donald as a member of the
Seahawks as the Evening war on and that one begets
other questions about what they're building towards with You've got
DK Metcalf in the trade world. Do they bring back
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Tyler Lockett on a lesser deal? Right, there's a bunch
of moving parts there as well. But stay with the Raiders.
They they give up the third round pick. So you
bring in Geno. Look, the turnover rate has been high,
but he's been pretty efficient downfield and you've seen him
make some plays with the Seahawks. Now you had a
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robust receiving room here, Jacoby Myers, you got Brock Bauers
as your starting points and then you start to work
from there. I'm about the opinion, like, as much as
I love the idea of that rookie quarterback, and yes
we get them on the cheap and all that, if
you don't have an infrastructure built, it's not really helping you.
We watched it last year with the Bears, right, a
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lot of splashy moves, a lot of great stuff on
the outside, and players that you get kind of fired up.
Whatever you thought of Keenan Allen in his final couple years,
whether he goes back to the Chargers or stays in
Chicago remains to be seen. But you bring in Rome Adonsay,
you bring in and made that big trade for DJ
Moore the year before. All of that it that it
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looks great on paper. Unfortunately you didn't have enough guys
that could block for Caleb Williams and he wasn't ready
for prime time in terms of reading and analyzing and
pushing the ball downfield right most throws at or near
the line of scrimmage. When you do the shot chart,
it's really depressing. You see plus sixty eight sacks. How
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many of those are his fault? The number of other
hits whatever. So within this year they immediately go and
grab a couple of linemen. Same thing with the Raiders.
You've got a pretty good offensive line. You already resigned
Max Crosby, so Gino's not even the face of the team.
The face of the teams Max Crossby. So so you
got that going for you. Now you can work on
the infrastructure and build from there and play the longer game,
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as it were, in terms of finding the right quarterbacks
as much as they they may have been enamored or
Mike Mark Davis certainly seemed enamored with Shador Sanders. Do
I rule out categorically that they don't draft him, No,
because they're the Raiders, and even with Tom Brady in
the fold, you never can tell. But Spytech and Davis,
(09:47):
I gotta think you know you're you're working up the
master plan because you're a bottom feeder in the AFC West.
This move doesn't push you forward, but too terribly much.
But you're starting to get a little bit of conversation
and excitement in the desert.
Speaker 4 (10:03):
You don't say it's interesting, you say that.
Speaker 6 (10:04):
I was just about to tell you the Raiders had
to make this move, because, let's be honest, as much
as I think that Kansas City is going to come
back to earth, and they are, they're certainly, you know,
getting an next three year up there. I don't think
Kelsey's gonna be great, but that's beside the point. The
Chargers are on the incline. The Broncos are on the incline.
The Raiders didn't want to get left behind. They had
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four wins last year. They're like, we got to do
something to get above five hundred. We have to be
a nine to eighteen to compete for a playoff spot.
So they said, the Chargers are moving up, the Broncos
are moving up. We know how good Kansas City is.
We got to make a move. Look how difference two
organizations make. Remember when Washington made their move, everybody's like
Philadelphia Washington. Now they're the key of the NFC. So
(10:48):
I said, Dallas is the biggest loser. They didn't do anything.
They're not keeping up with the Joneses, No pun attended.
They're not keeping up. Look what the Raiders did. They said,
we want to keep up. They got themselves a quarterback.
The Cowboys said, you know, we don't care. I guess
we will pretend like we want to keep up and
they don't make any move.
Speaker 4 (11:07):
That's the difference right there.
Speaker 3 (11:09):
Cowboys will be curious as we get things flowing into
the new year. Right they did free up a lot
of money. They still have to sign Micah Parsons and
push forward from there. Jerry Jones' comments about free agency
not really being the place.
Speaker 6 (11:23):
He was shocked that he said that, I would why
would you say that? Even first of all, even if
it's true, why would you say that. It's it's draft
time and you're supposed to lie, we expect you to lie.
Why to us, like, what do you doing? Why why
would you even say that that free agency? And maybe
he just could be tried to be completely honest because
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he just doesn't.
Speaker 4 (11:44):
Want to spend the money. I don't know what's going
through his mind.
Speaker 6 (11:47):
I figure when owners get older, they don't mind spending
the money because they only have so many more years
left to try to win it.
Speaker 4 (11:54):
I don't understand what's going on.
Speaker 3 (11:55):
It's funny you say that that's a question. I'll ask
about another team going to the af seaside in a
little while. But with Jerry Jones, remember this is the
guy that after the first day of the draft last year,
went out of his way to talk about how excited
he was that Jonathan Brooks was still on the board,
only to watch him get drafted by Carolina. Now he
hurt his leg and was gone for the year. But
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the point just taking Jerry sometimes can't get away from
a microphone fast enough. We'll have more on this trade,
the ramifications, and the spin the wheel of veteran quarterbacks
as we go. But as we continue here sticking genius one,
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Last night, as Smith and I were watching what was
a hotly contested game Lakers Nicks live here from Los Angeles, I.
Speaker 6 (13:58):
Was fummed about that guy was really I was watching that.
I got it all into it and then we just
fell apart. But go ahead, it was hard.
Speaker 3 (14:05):
We literally had a loser's leaves town match between our
executive producer, Justin Frossberg and Jason Smith. The loser was
going to have to go running into the night, and
then I reminded Smith that his name was on the
show and that I could really destroy him for a
good hour plus if things went south. So we kind
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of retracted that, but he was still going to banish
Frostburg from the production booth. Ty Shirt was a little
mad when the Lakers went onto that one thirteen one
oh nine victory because he meant he had company for
the rest of the night and couldn't blare his music
the way he wanted to. Now as we're watching it,
the villain in all of this comes back to Josh
(14:45):
Hart with some bad decision making in the final second. Yeah,
second of regulation. Doesn't get the shot off in times not.
Speaker 4 (14:52):
All his fault.
Speaker 6 (14:53):
Brunson got him the ball a little bit too late,
so I will say that they did double teams. He
got in a bad position and gave gave it up
all too eight.
Speaker 3 (15:02):
He took an extra dribble because he got wide eyed
seeing Luca right Luca on defense. Now, I'm not gonna
say he hasn't had a couple of flashes, but it's
still the opportunity to go against Luca went for the
extra dribble and before he can get the shot off,
as Lebron came over to contest, Uh, doesn't get it off.
The red light goes on. So we get to overtime
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and we always question, you know, hey, inevitability of injuries. No,
not this one, because with one twenty four left on
the clock, Jalen Bronson goes to the hole, tries to
make something happen, and then in that moment, this line
flashed from a movie that I've seen a million times
(15:44):
spens in.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
The Force, as if millions of voices suddenly cried out
in terror and was suddenly silenced.
Speaker 3 (15:51):
I feel something terrible has happened.
Speaker 5 (15:54):
Yeah, there you have it.
Speaker 4 (15:55):
You've been waiting to play that for so long.
Speaker 5 (15:57):
Well, you know what, it just is so appropriate.
Speaker 3 (15:59):
The great out like Guinness Obi wan Kenobi as older
On is destroyed spoiler alert nineteen seventy seven. If you
haven't seen it, check your pulse. You gotta go do
some living. But all of that to say, I heard
every Knicks fan I watched my Twitter role. I almost
saw the whale tail come up, which I have not
seen in a while because there was so much activity
(16:21):
of my God, and then trying to figure it out.
They had a challenge of whether it should have been
a filed Well, Luca kind of did a judo chop
to Brunson's chest as he went by, but that would
have been filed number.
Speaker 5 (16:32):
Six, so that can't happen.
Speaker 3 (16:34):
It gets contested and ends up landing, and I didn't
see replays.
Speaker 5 (16:38):
They didn't really do a lot of replay on like
one which.
Speaker 4 (16:42):
We got to see one with the rolled ankle. You
did get to see one of.
Speaker 3 (16:44):
Them, but just generally we don't get them a lot anymore, Arnie,
Like when there's an injury in the guy's down, you
get the live you might get one more look, but
it's not like once upon a time here, let me
watch you watch this guy get hit from the side repeatedly.
Look football games, or guys get and swatted in the
paint and dusted and knocked to the court.
Speaker 5 (17:04):
So we didn't see it.
Speaker 3 (17:05):
And then it started to make the rounds on socials,
you see the angle that Jalen Brunson's ankle took and
sham Sharania reported and soon confirmed and retweeted and reposted
by others that he's expected to miss at least two weeks.
Jalen Bronson not Champs with a right ankle sprain. So
(17:26):
the human body continues to just astound me, because I
saw that in you know, some of the Twitter doctors,
and you take them all with a grain of salt,
but you know they've seen enough and made enough repairs
and examinations that they're certainly more more appropriate to give
you an estimation than I am.
Speaker 5 (17:44):
But all of that is like, wow, just two weeks, huh?
At least two weeks.
Speaker 3 (17:48):
But you know what was funny in terms of the
timing of the report, It literally came out the same
minute the Gino Smith trade went down. It's like, oh,
you got that, I got this, So now we got
a battle once again.
Speaker 5 (17:59):
You know what.
Speaker 4 (17:59):
I saw a couple of reports.
Speaker 6 (18:01):
First of all, somebody said he could be out to
the start of the playoffs. Then there was the two
week thing. Then I saw one that says, well, we'll
reevaluate him in two weeks. I think I'm gonna believe
that one will they'll kind of reevaluate him in two weeks.
I don't expect him to get back on the court
in two weeks. Look pretty serious. I mean, I thought
it was gonna be a lot worse than that. I
(18:22):
think in the end, if it's only about two to
three weeks, maybe it could be a blessing in disguise
where he takes some of the minutes away from him
and rest his body and gets ready for the playoffs.
That's if he's back in two or three weeks. If
he's held out to the playoffs, then there's no silver
lining at this whatsoever. It's gonna be real tough for
the Knicks to do anything. This was gonna be Look,
(18:45):
this was gonna be tough going anyway. They've played so
bad against all the top teams. It's absolutely disgusting. But
I hated to see that. If they would have just
ended things in the regulation, none of this stuff would
have happened. Hopefully, Brunson's gonna be back in two weeks.
I think it's going to be longer though, Mike, I
think it's going to be more like three, maybe longer
(19:06):
than that.
Speaker 3 (19:06):
Yeah, I'm really hoping. I didn't cause any issues for
Josh Hart. Although in New York I'm sure he's wearing
it already for not finishing the job or at least
getting a shot off.
Speaker 5 (19:15):
Just get the shot off. What happens from there.
Speaker 4 (19:17):
He shouldn't have driven.
Speaker 6 (19:18):
He should have just shot the jumper when he got
the ball, I think less than two seconds after about
two seconds, last.
Speaker 5 (19:25):
Two seconds, last, Yeah, he should have just shot it.
Got wide, you were and you were open.
Speaker 4 (19:29):
He was open.
Speaker 6 (19:30):
So just shoot the ball, shoot the jumper, and and
you know, at that point, deliver.
Speaker 4 (19:35):
Or die if you make it. That's what I would
have done.
Speaker 5 (19:37):
Strength, Strength.
Speaker 3 (19:38):
The schedule remaining for the Knicks for their twenty games
is about five hundred, So you've got some heavy weights,
and then you've still got some games against the sinking Spurs,
the Blazers, and who've been up and down. Right, they
had a good run for a while, and on any
given Sunday, any given night, can still give you a fight.
We look at the standings where you're sitting right now,
(19:59):
third in the East. Couple of games that had of
the streaking Bucks, they're eight and two in their last ten.
Yanna's had his twenty thousand point. Nobody cared. Although I
liked their little montage they did for him because it
I saw him drafted and he looked like he was
what ten did you see that?
Speaker 6 (20:16):
They were mad because nobody put it out anything that
Yana scored what was his ten pointer or something to that.
Nobody said anything. They had won eight to nine, Nobody
was saying anything about that. Lil is having a better.
Speaker 4 (20:31):
Season than Steph Curry.
Speaker 6 (20:33):
Everybody said he's washed up, and everybody's kind of forgetting
about what's going on with Milwaukee.
Speaker 4 (20:38):
Hopefully the Knicks hang on to the number three seed.
Speaker 6 (20:42):
You don't want to be number four and have to
play Cleveland in the first round, but what the heck?
Either way, it's it's not going to be an easy
case for them anyway.
Speaker 3 (20:49):
Well, the difficulty and you saw it, and it was
only a minute twenty four, so not exactly a robust
sample size, but you had a lot of guys standing
around trying to figure out who the hell was going
to deal with the ball after Brunson went out right
the concerning right, I get it, Thibodeau runs a very
short rotation, very ball.
Speaker 5 (21:09):
That's crazy ball dominant Bronson.
Speaker 3 (21:12):
But when you're looking around, like those final possessions were awkward,
it was like the first practice of a new season,
new kids trying out for the team.
Speaker 5 (21:21):
Here, run a play? What player we run it? I
don't know what he plays.
Speaker 3 (21:25):
So finishing that game against the Lakers was just really
kind of uncomfortable. But you look at where they sit
right now forty twenty two. They're three and a half
games ahead of Milwaukee. You might be Indiana and Detroit
behind them.
Speaker 6 (21:40):
It may be better if they finished up at the
four seed. I think I'd rather play Cleveland than have
to play the Celtics, though either either way, it's not
going to be a jazzy run anyway.
Speaker 3 (21:50):
Yeah, both teams really deep. I mean you saw what
the Celtics have been doing. It's like, hey, you want
to play tonight, now you go. So you get Brown
plays one night and Pritchard White go insane, and then
brown sits the next night, Tatum reinserts himself with a
thirty five point performance. So it's it's the pick your
poison and the depth, especially when you look at a
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guy like Pritchard off the bench that can.
Speaker 5 (22:13):
Light it up.
Speaker 4 (22:13):
You know what I was gonna say about that, Mike.
Speaker 5 (22:15):
So some of these other teams don't have that.
Speaker 6 (22:17):
You know when you said Pritchard, I loved them when
they took him out. I think it was Oregon and
I was telling, you know, playing this is a great move,
that they're gonna love him years down the line. It
just goes to show you why in a long regular
season with eighty two games, why the guys number six, seven, eight, ten,
off the bench eleven twelve, Why these guys can't play
(22:37):
a big factor in like a back to back game
or something like that. Why they have to sit on
the bench all eighty two games. You know, unless it's
a thirty point blowout, they're that bad. You're only paying
millions of dollars and you can't get him into a
game to make a difference for five minutes or something.
Speaker 4 (22:54):
I never understood that, Mike. I think it's absolutely crazy.
Speaker 3 (22:58):
Back end first round pick in twenty twenty averaging fourteen
points a game for rebounds, three and a half assists,
and shooting about forty eight percent from the field. Uh
this year. But your point very well taken, right. Whenever
you run with the short rotations, that's that's what you
do in the playoffs. Yeah, sure, you shorten it, and
now you're in the regular season thirty guys. But during
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the regular season we talk about the wear and tear,
and me speaking from first hand experience of watching and
living and dying with some of those Thibodeaux squads in
Chicago that were pretty good. Those guys had nothing left,
right Joe Kim Noah and some of those guys that
were playing, they they played with great heart, but by
the fourth quarter of most games, you waited for them
(23:40):
to trip over their tongues or their shoelaces. They were
playing so many minutes and we're watching the same thing
with your beloved Nicks. Oh you can see it, you
can see it coming away.
Speaker 5 (23:50):
Yeah, yeah, and it will.
Speaker 4 (23:52):
Take its toll on you.
Speaker 6 (23:52):
That's why maybe it's good that he'll sit out. You
just don't want them the roll is ankle and become
anything serious. They said, it doesn't look that way. So
hopefully he'll just rest on up, get his body ready,
and we'll see what I've been coming playoff time. But
even with him in the lineup, the Knicks were like,
oh and twelve against the top two seats.
Speaker 4 (24:10):
It was crazy. It was tart.
Speaker 5 (24:12):
Yeah, it's it's a very dark. It's I'm going to
go to.
Speaker 4 (24:16):
A game late like two three weeks. I'm gonna go
down to New York and go to a game.
Speaker 5 (24:20):
Are you really? Yeah?
Speaker 6 (24:21):
Do I get free tickets? Do I say? I think
like I'm covering the game or no?
Speaker 5 (24:25):
Going?
Speaker 3 (24:25):
Uh, We've got channels up in the Fox Sports Radio studios.
There's a producer I'll get you in touch with.
Speaker 4 (24:31):
I want to take my son. YEA, yeah, I tell
you well.
Speaker 3 (24:34):
I mean claim he's your cameraman. That seems to work.
What did I say something wrong? At one at Swollen
Dome at Fox Sports Radio. Here, as we roll forward
the Jason Smith Show with Me, Mike Carman, Jason off tonight,
It'll be back on Monday, as we get ready for
(24:55):
the opening bell of the new trading week in the
National Football Income Wednesday, as the new calendar kicks off
and we get full on into free agency and these
trades get consummated because the next few few days are
gonna be insane, no question about it. But while while
we're in the NBA, we've got some bigger topics, you know,
(25:15):
the father and son. I should play the Cat Stevens
song under me while I talk later off. But all
of that to say, you know, those top six picks
are to top six seeds. I should say we've been
talking a lot Detroit Smith and I because he picked
them for greatness about three years ago. He was clearly
ahead of where he needed to be in that regard.
(25:37):
But they're eight and two in their last ten to
get to the sixth seed, and you're seeing Cad Cunningham
and what he can be Pacers after some early struggles,
playing pretty well of late up to thirty five wins
on the Yes, they're seventeen games behind Cleveland. Cleveland with
another narrow win tonight, but that's a squad that got
(25:58):
was deep. And then they went and they added DeAndre
Hunter because I'm that nerd watching him that twenty nineteen
draft class, Arnie. I'm heavily invested in in the trading
card world. In other words, I bought because I was bored.
And so they're stacks of these guys sitting.
Speaker 4 (26:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (26:16):
Yeah, Well, so I keep keep.
Speaker 3 (26:17):
An eye idea of where these guys go. And so
when DeAndre Hunter gets out of Atlanta and goes to
a winner, I'm like, hey, those might actually have some value.
Now go back and pick those up. But fifteen six
and four off the bench, as they get a one
point win over Charlotte. So a nice trade deadline acquisition there.
Speaker 6 (26:34):
If you flip flop the number two seeds with the
number one seeds, that means you made the Celtics and
the Lakers the number one seed and gave them fifty
two wins and fifty three wins. We'd be clamoring about
the NBA like you wouldn't believe. It'd be like the
new sport found And I know, Bark, we got all
upset about this.
Speaker 4 (26:55):
We'll probably get to this later on.
Speaker 5 (26:57):
Oh you're there, just stay with it now, we'll look.
Speaker 4 (27:02):
I'm a I'm a basketball snob.
Speaker 6 (27:04):
I want the Celtics, the Knicks, the Lakers, you know,
Detroit teams like that to play. Well, I'm not into
Cleveland in Oklahoma City. My partners, you mentioned Chris Planke
lives out there in Oklahoma City.
Speaker 4 (27:20):
Good for him.
Speaker 6 (27:21):
They're happy out there. We want to see the Celtics
against the Lakers. We want to see the Knicks against
the Lakers. People want to see the big boys, their
basketball snobs.
Speaker 4 (27:34):
No disrespect against Cleveland.
Speaker 6 (27:36):
I guess it is a disrespect against Cleveland and Oklahoma City.
They just don't move the needle. Do you understand, Mikey,
you know what I'm talking about. You do it five
days a week. You'd rather who do you think the
commissioners rooting for the Celtics and the Knicks and the
Lakers or Cleveland and Oklahoma City?
Speaker 4 (27:53):
And tell me, could you.
Speaker 6 (27:54):
Imagine, like I said, if the Lakers had fifty two
wins and the Celtics had fifty three wins and they
were both had that type of record, my good, our
Golden State was up there after what they've been doing.
Now we'd be talking about the NBA like it was
the newfound sport. But yet because we have Cleveland and
Oklahoma City, we're basketball snobs about it.
Speaker 3 (28:14):
Well, I think there's something to it. Of Look at
the end, we're broadcasting. One of the things Steve de
Sager does with us, and I know he does it
with you and Chris Is you know, keeps an eye
on what television ratings are, what the eyeballs are. Clearly,
you know when we're talking the old play the hits,
my man, like you've been told that for as long
as you and I and anybody's been in the business,
(28:36):
that doesn't mean that we don't get to talk about
our own personal interest stories. I'm a Chicago fan. Are
they relevant in any way? The Bears are the Bears
always are because they're in a historic franchise. There's a lot
of Bears fans out there, and people love to laugh
at a big team that's losing. Right, That's what we
do with the Cowboys, historic brands, the Raiders for all
these years.
Speaker 5 (28:56):
Right, they don't. You don't have to be good.
Speaker 3 (28:58):
The cow you but yeah, you had the history right
that stays with you and has gone global as the
game went global.
Speaker 5 (29:05):
But when we talk about Oklahoma.
Speaker 3 (29:07):
City, Cleveland, Look the ratings were there San Antonio dynastic, right,
we used that term generational, dynastic, all of those big
words to describe teams and their efficiency and their dominance.
Did anybody outside of us covering it? How many people
really went out of the way, Hey, the Spurs are on,
(29:29):
I want to go watch the big fundamental They.
Speaker 4 (29:31):
Were boring champions, man, we did. We weren't big.
Speaker 6 (29:33):
We weren't big into San Antonio. They weren't moving the
needle as much as the big cities like New York
and Boston and Los Angeles and places like that.
Speaker 4 (29:42):
Mike that's for sure.
Speaker 5 (29:43):
But that's it.
Speaker 3 (29:43):
Right, So you get a story and we joked about
it during super Bowl week, right, everybody's on radio row
and doing all the media stuff in New Orleans. Meanwhile
you've got the NBA trade deadline that actually had a
bunch of big names move and a bunch of big
stories that flew out of it. So it kind of
dwarfed whatever was going on because we had no we
(30:04):
had no arrests, we had no big controversies. We didn't
too bad for you guys, But there were New Orleans, right,
you're expecting something bad to happen.
Speaker 5 (30:13):
Nothing happened.
Speaker 3 (30:14):
But you know, you didn't get any big inflammatory quotes
from either team like it. It just kind of flowed.
People did the corporate thing. Hey, I'll tell you a
little bit about my season. Now, I'm gonna tell you, you know,
don't drink draino. You should to uncloud your pipe. I mean,
you know that kind of thing.
Speaker 6 (30:30):
So took center stage over in the NFL during Super
Bowl week.
Speaker 5 (30:36):
But that's it.
Speaker 3 (30:36):
But but that's it right this we we we complained
and complained and complained about the NBA, and then for
a week it was great. Well, these trades went down,
we got back to complaining about the NBA once they
started playing again because it went out of the All
Star break and all the mess that that was. So
people were back to just yelling at each other off
who could have the hottest take about what you do
(30:57):
with the All Star Game? Nausey sports talk. Glad that
we were able to avoid a bunch of it, and
we got to watch the Four Nation Cup on the
hockey side and talk a bunch about that, which I'm
sure I had some program directors trying to eject us
along the way. But all of that to say, Arnie,
we were back to hating the game. But then you
(31:18):
get Luca, you get Jimmy Butler, now you got Steph
Curry's reinvigorated, Nicole de Jokics doing some things. So you're
seeing Denver on the surge so and then Boston doing
what they are. So Cleveland and Oklahoma City get to
be part of that mix, but they're certainly not driving
the bus.
Speaker 6 (31:34):
No. And you know, Mike, I know everybody watches the
NFL Draft. I think the numbers were like ten million
people last year. This year, there's not a big quarterback run.
So maybe the numbers are a little bit down or
maybe the same. But the NBA has a unique opportunity
that once the playoffs start to recapture the sports world,
what are they gonna have to do. They're gonna have
to make sure that the schedule is made where you
(31:56):
get you know, like Golden State's playing one day, the
Lakers are on a different day, maybe the Knicks on
one day, the Celtics on another day, and none of
this three and a half weeks off and stuff like that.
You can't have teams taking three four days off between games.
Speaker 4 (32:11):
I remember last year, wasn't there like six days off?
Speaker 5 (32:15):
What did you get into some of those gaps? Well?
Speaker 3 (32:18):
As you get towards because the finals are always set
in stone right right off, everything finishes early and you're screwed.
I'm really glad you expounded on that point because I
was nervous and I know, sure as hell over at
the news desk, the legendary Steve de Seger was a
little bit nervous about like you were calling for a fix.
(32:39):
You were calling for a fixer to come in in
terms of the matchups in the first route, Steve Arnie
making me nervous early on.
Speaker 7 (32:44):
A Friday, No, I wasn't, but there you go. It
took only a couple of segments. You're working with Arnie
for that to come out.
Speaker 5 (32:52):
The SEGA lead.
Speaker 6 (32:53):
With Arizona beating Kansas tomorrow, would you lead with that
one please?
Speaker 7 (32:57):
Well, of course we do have your Nicks on while
Arnie is on, so he's gonna take the Wildcat's place
of losing while Arnie is on the air. By the way,
last Friday night, when the ESPN had, of course NBA,
what were the ratings, They had Lakers Clippers and got
one point nine million, and the next night they had
thunder Spurs and it was one point.
Speaker 4 (33:17):
Two million viewers.
Speaker 7 (33:18):
Ah geez enough said, we have a late game just
starting up with the Clippers hosting New York. Jalen Brunson
and the Knicks out at least two weeks with the
sprained ankle suffered last night. Wins this evening for Memphis
and Minnesota Toronto as well to Arnie's delight, Oklahoma City
has won its six straight game and Cleveland has won
its thirteenth in a row. Okay See without Shay Giljis Alexander,
(33:40):
who was rested, still beat Portland and Cleveland won at Charlotte,
fact nine straight losses for the Hornets, even though Miles
Bridge has scored forty six points. There was college basketball
on Fox TV at Illinois. The home team beat number
eighteen per Due eighty eight to eighty and right now
at number sixteen Memphis, it's the Tigers fifty eight over
(34:01):
South Florida. In Women's Basketball Conference tournament week victories for
number one Texas, wins for USC and UCLA. Michigan upset
number fifteen Maryland. Right now in the final seconds, Iowa
has taken the lead on thirteenth ranked Ohio State fifty
nine to fifty eight in a Big Ten Tournament quarterfinal.
Among the six NHL games, Winnipeg a six to one
(34:22):
winner at New Jersey. The NHL's trade deadline was today.
Defending champion Florida acquired Brad Marshall and Boston Boy, assuming
he's back before the playoffs. Absolutely it is Detroit at
Washington tonight. Caps take that one five to two. And Yes,
the Seahawks traded quarterback Gino Smith to the Raiders, where
he'll play for coach Pete Carroll. Seattle gets a third rounder.
(34:45):
Smith has one year left on his deal for now,
and yes, quarterback Sam Darnold is available. The new league
year starts March twelfth in the NFL.
Speaker 5 (34:54):
Back to you, thanks so much.
Speaker 3 (34:55):
Steve at the news desk with us all night. Ian
and Alex making a sound so pretty. He's the Stinking
genius at Stink and Genius one on X.
Speaker 5 (35:04):
Find me over at Swollen Dome.
Speaker 3 (35:05):
I'm Mike Carmon as we hang out with you here
Friday into Saturday. Coming up next a story that has
me thinking of an old Sting profile on sixty minutes.
Speaker 5 (35:16):
What the hell am I talking about?
Speaker 3 (35:17):
Yes, another old reference that'll get you pondering this next
topic as we turn to the NFL. He's Alnie, I'm Mike,
and this is Fox.
Speaker 2 (35:27):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven
pm Pacific.
Speaker 3 (35:34):
Welcome back in a live from the tyrac dot Com
Fox Sports Radio Studios. It's the Jason Smith Show with
Me Mike Harmon. No Jason Smith tonight, Arnie Span your
our buddy in gracious to sit with us, broadcasting legend.
We're blessed to have him with us. That's as much
as I'm gonna wash him up at Stick and Genius
one if you want to do that or disagree or
(35:54):
yell at both of us. Some commentary coming in a
little bit over the Genos myth story that we started the.
Speaker 5 (36:01):
Hour with his trade to the Raiders.
Speaker 3 (36:03):
Will continue to keep an eye on on socials and
integrate them into the show as we circle back to
that a little later. Mark Stein's gonna join us in
the third hour talking all things NBA. But we go
back to the NFL, the NFL Draft, the silly season,
all the rumor, conjecture, speculation, and coming out of the combine,
the the talk of well, we didn't love that guy,
(36:24):
we didn't like that guy.
Speaker 5 (36:25):
But a lot of it goes back to Shador Sanders.
Speaker 3 (36:27):
He seems to be bearing the brunt of it, and
he and his father, well, they took to the video
streams and they had their commentary about well, Deane had
a theory about why why you the.
Speaker 2 (36:40):
Only kid that hay No, why you the only kid
in the draft potential first pigs or whatever?
Speaker 4 (36:46):
Big they no, why are you the only one?
Speaker 2 (36:48):
Because you find time.
Speaker 4 (36:50):
Now because they want you to slide to the eighteen
This game.
Speaker 5 (36:55):
Game, But we know the game. We sounded his baby.
There you go. We're saying, baby, you know.
Speaker 6 (37:01):
What, don't knock like this is something new. Every year
we get this. This guy's sliding, this guy's moving up,
this guy's going down. We didn't like this guy's attitude.
This guy may have an injury, this guy has a
off field problem. This guy didn't know this, this guy
had a bad wonder Wick exam. Any reason to drop
these guys down so a team could take him. That happens,
(37:24):
and and they'll live, manipulate and.
Speaker 4 (37:26):
Do everything there.
Speaker 6 (37:26):
This is nothing new. Dion's right. They probably want you
to do it, to slide a little bit so a
team could take him. But don't act like you know
it's any conspiracy theory that we're just doing it because
it's Deon's kid. This goes on all the time with
every position, every player. They just want to go ahead,
and I mean, heck you the number one pickle Carter.
(37:50):
We don't know if this guy needs a surgery, doesn't
need surgery, stressed fact, fracture, all kinds of stuff. So, uh,
there's there's rumors on just about everybody out there.
Speaker 3 (38:00):
Well, it goes to the with him it's at least
an injury, and you're trying to figure out which of
the thirty opinions matters.
Speaker 5 (38:07):
Yeah, exactly what you need to do with it physically.
Speaker 3 (38:10):
When it comes to Sanders, it becomes the he may
not be for everyone kind of idea.
Speaker 5 (38:15):
Right.
Speaker 3 (38:15):
The quote that was out there from the Athletic quote
hit the wrong notes. In Combine interviews, unquote, Mary kay
Cabin of the Cleveland Plain deal Dealer noted members of
the organization said they were impressed. They liked Sanders at
the East West Shrine Bowl. The Combine quote. They didn't
find them to be arrogant or brash, but confident and engaging.
They liked all of the good things his Hall of
(38:36):
Fame dad did and poured into him, appreciated its own guy,
et cetera.
Speaker 5 (38:41):
Who leadership goes through.
Speaker 6 (38:42):
Yeah, who did he say, I'm not going to even
talk to you because you're not even picking in the
top ten or top five or something like that.
Speaker 5 (38:48):
I don't know that that was real.
Speaker 3 (38:51):
Those are always ones that start circulating, and you got
to make sure you're not NFL sentelled.
Speaker 6 (38:57):
Because because I'm say, if they wanted to trade up
and get them, then you know, so.
Speaker 4 (39:03):
You have to speak to even if somebody, even if
it's Kansas City, who knows if they don't want to
trade up and get you.
Speaker 3 (39:09):
Well, but it's the kind of thing that you are
waiting to see. And look, you got to play the
game too, right, if you're a player and you're gonna
be more engaged with some teams than others, and being
engaged with Cleveland, they're the number two pick as it
stands right now. But it goes back to a great
to be great at anything, right, you've got to have
(39:30):
some level of hubris, you know, being in our business, right,
steven a who will talk about in a few minutes
he signs one hundred million dollars deal. You gotta have
some some confidence that some folks might decide might be
a little too much. I think back to an old
profile they did of sting On sixty minutes and towards
the end they decided to play word association. See what
(39:51):
he would do. And he starts going back and forth,
you know, breakfast blah blah blah blah blah. And there's
a pause and he goes arrogant and Stings smiles, gets
that little devil's grin the eyebrow goes up and he
goes guilty.
Speaker 6 (40:05):
Well, let's see if Sadr is laughing and thinking he's
arrogant when he's going to be the third quarterback taken
in this year's draft and not the second quarterback taken.
Speaker 3 (40:14):
But as we know, you always need one of those.
So what does that mean he goes third in the draft?
Speaker 5 (40:19):
Arnie, no, Josh.
Speaker 4 (40:20):
I think Jason Jackson Dartwell.
Speaker 3 (40:22):
Jackson dart Well. So that's the thing, right, is Shad
ahead of him? Cam Ward is the clear wand to
some we shall find out he's Arnie Spanier.
Speaker 5 (40:31):
I'm Mike Harmon.
Speaker 3 (40:32):
As we continue here on Fox Sports Radio, we go
back to the NBA and the confrontation scene around the world.
Speaker 5 (40:41):
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