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Well harm Just like I said yesterday, Hey, yeah, the
NFL is making sure we get good story and big
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stuff to talk about every day with free agency. We
had a bunch of quarterback signed yesterday, still leaving things
open for today. We had a couple of big signings
leaving things open for tomorrow with Aaron Rodgers and Russell Wilson.
The NFL Arian Foster's got this script where it's not
gonna have it in all day. It's Hey, let's do
a couple on Monday, couple on Tuesday, couple on Wednesday.
Speaker 4 (01:22):
Hey, we're in the middle of a great week here.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
It's Christmas, but it's three four, five days long and
it's just exactly how we thought it was gonna go.
Speaker 5 (01:28):
Well, I'm surprised they haven't moved it back a week.
So then they can invade March Madness and say blank
those kids like George Carlin, you know, wow, like your
March madness. It's a free agent frenzy. Let's go maybe
on the playing days, but boy, like the Thursday, take
over the Thursday and Friday.
Speaker 4 (01:50):
Oh that'd be that would be real. Boom.
Speaker 5 (01:54):
You saw what the NBA did to our Super Bowl week.
Speaker 4 (01:57):
We're coming for you.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
And we want to interrup Duke in UCLA right now. Yes,
there's three minutes left to go. Cooper Flagg has forty,
but Duke trails by two to tell you that Aaron
Rodgers has signed with the Pittsburgh Steelers. Let's go live
to our CBS studio where Chris Simson everybody else has
more with this, Like I can imagine that happening.
Speaker 5 (02:16):
Well, i'll tell you I and H when we first
thought about this situation a week ago, they had three
potential shooters out there, and now flag with another shot.
Speaker 4 (02:28):
He's got up to forty six.
Speaker 5 (02:30):
Hey, hey, it doesn't matter. Okay, that defensive lineman that's
been waiting in the wings has been a backup role
for that No nothing, AFC South squad. He's moving West
LA and that's got the headlines.
Speaker 4 (02:46):
Let's go.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
You want a really fun story about that before we
get into the NFL from today.
Speaker 4 (02:51):
So this is I'm going back aways. Now.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
This is back when I was working at Fox Sports Net,
and it was the precursor to Fox Sports One, right
when everybody came out beginning of the beginning of the
two thousands, Like Kevin Frazier was the big anchor, and
you know the football analysts who are the football analysts
that we had. Oh, James Worthy was on every day, right,
So that was a big precursor. Right, So Sunday we're
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all at work. It's a big day. Obviously, it's Sunday.
We're all working. And that was the day that Cal
Ripken decided to end his hitting streak and his playing
games played streak. Right, he was sitting out at twenty
one third. It's like whoa, whoa, whoa. When it became
obvious that, you know, the fifth incomes and he doesn't
come into the game, right, everybody realizes it in Baltimore
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that he's not coming into play. He's done, he's sitting out.
Everybody comes out and collapse. He comes out, waves to
the crowd. It's like, oh my god, this is a
big thing, right, So what happens on, you know, in
the middle of the NFL.
Speaker 4 (03:45):
And so then we're.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
All at work and we're watching and I forget who
it was, but as a couple of people like like,
this is a big news coming in now, and how
does this change the story of the day and everything else?
And they go to the Fox, you know, Fox Sunday
was coming down like at halftime or right before the games,
and it's it's at this point it was it was
Howie and Terry and JB you know all and and
(04:06):
Jimmy Johnson I think was that and they were all
talking about it. It was a really big thing. And
they brought Steve lyons on over from the baseball set
because obviously, you know, he's the thing so they bring
Psycho over and I think it was halftime. I think
it was halftime of the early games, when normally you
get highlights and what's going on and everything else. And
so they come over and you know, James Brown introduces hey,
and now we have a huge story in Major League Baseball.
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The iron Man streak of cal Ripken is over. Steve
Lions here now to talk to us about it. And
we're watching and like three people that were all, what
are going What.
Speaker 4 (04:37):
The hell are we doing? Show me football highlights? What
the hell? I want to see? What's going on? What
the hell?
Speaker 1 (04:42):
Why are we talking to Steve Lyons like it's a
really big story.
Speaker 4 (04:46):
Oh, why the hell is he on here? I don't
care the Patriots.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
I think somebody got hurt, you know, I don't know
what it was, but people were just insane that why
are we taking time out of this NFL Sunday where
it's time to see you know, back when when that's
where you needed to see highlight to the early right,
if you didn't have the dish, you know, you wanted
to see highlights because I want to see the highls.
Speaker 5 (05:06):
Obviously a magnificent career for Cal Ripken, junior over three thousand.
It's Hall of Famer, the gold Gloves, everything else. But
for all of you out there, remember to tell your kids.
Eighty five percent is just showing up. Oh sure, celebrated
most to being able to show up, right.
Speaker 4 (05:25):
That's absolutely showing up.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
Uh So, Now, look, obviously we have a lot of
NFL to get to and and look, Daniel Jones has
a new destination. Joe Soosa now heads to the Buffalo
Bills for one year or four games whatever he plays more?
Speaker 5 (05:38):
Does he hate his brother eight seven seven ninety nine?
But wrong thing.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
Look, obviously the biggest story today and we saw this,
and this is why this is such a final moment,
I think for all of us. Tiger Woods reveals that
he had surgery on a ruptured Achilles tendon and he
is now out for however long it's going to be
for him.
Speaker 4 (06:02):
To come back. And it was shocking.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
Nobody knew, right he was doing TGL stuff and he
was having fun and laughing. He said, listen, I was
just swinging a club and I felt that, you know
what was something was going on. I went in and
it's a minimally invasive Achilles tendon repair and you know,
obviously Tiger Woods expected to make a full recovery, but
you think about this with Tiger Woods. Okay, Tiger Woods
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now hasn't played in a PGA Tour event all season, right,
his mom passed away in February. He had entered, but
then Withdrew, he's not ready to compete. Last time he
played in a Tour event was last year at the
Open at Troon in July. And you know, this is
just it's just more. It's just more, you know, horrible
news for Tiger with his health and for all of
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us who still measure success at golf events when Tiger
Woods is there playing well because we still kind of
do it. I look at this and I go, He's
he's forty nine years old. Now, how many more times
is he really gonna play golf?
Speaker 2 (07:01):
Like?
Speaker 1 (07:01):
If I put the over under for number of times
you see Tiger Woods competing on a golf course again,
and I put it at five, I would probably take
the under. The number of injuries he has had to
his back, to his legs the last twenty years. I mean,
he has done a yeoman's work trying to get back
from this, right, he has tried everything he can, but
it's just at the point where his body is really
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betraying him. And now you're talking about coming back from
an Achilles tendon injury, which, even though minimally invasive, it's
still a ruptured Achilles tendon.
Speaker 4 (07:31):
Like, what are you gonna do? Right?
Speaker 1 (07:33):
How many more chances are really gonna get? And he's
not gonna come out and keep playing, just as hey,
he's gonna come out and play two holes and limp off.
So I wonder if he's gonna do, you know, again,
five more times? Maybe the Masters. He'll try the Masters
at some point next year, right, because obviously Achilles tendon
surgery the one event that is he's kind of owned
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for his entire career. Like, maybe he tries it again
in a year, but how many more times after that?
I mean, if you if you put the number of
times we're gonna see Tiger Woods play again in the
PGA Tour in events that are real like this where
he's trying to win, I would take the under at five.
It's just his body is just it's just not at
the point more where he can even play. He's only
playing four or five events a year anyway, And now
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after all the rehab at some point you just say,
you know what, I think I'm done, and I'm gonna
continue to be an ambassador and I'll be a celebrity
and they'll do everything I can. Maybe I'll be PGA
Tour commissioner one day or something else.
Speaker 4 (08:28):
But on the golf course, I think we may see
him less than five times. Now.
Speaker 5 (08:32):
Keep going to the video game events. See how much
you can build that. Add some celebrities and make it
a chaotic weekend. You know, take the Arizona event and
bring it indoors to the video game where you don't
have to walk the full eighteen, which you obviously can't do.
Hasn't competed since last July when you talk about being
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at the Open, and then obviously this year with the
passing of his mom. You know, another one of those guys, right,
talk about it all the time on the show, Jason.
We measure our our, our own mortality in a way
with some of these athletes that we grew up and
who came to prominence as you know we were in
our early twenties. And then when they start, one by one,
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all going off, and usually golfers, they give us a shot,
I mean because they don't have all these, you know,
horrible injuries that actually take them off the course. We
can always say, hey, still slinging it over on the
senior tour, So I'm not that old. But with Tiger,
we've just watched incident after incident and all these injuries,
and this one just as like oh, father time came
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and just kind of grabbed at my achilles, is the
way he kind of described it.
Speaker 4 (09:41):
Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 5 (09:42):
I just it kind of popped and I went into
lucked and yeah, there we go. We got to go
have a big surgery. Interesting in a bunch of the
articles because I know exactly where he'd had that car accident.
Because you started enumerting all the different things he's gone
to in the rehabs he's come back from with these injuries,
and they they keep putting in the Palisades. I don't
know if it's AI correcting for a recency when it
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came to the horrible fires that we had. No, no, no,
I know exactly with the curve because I taught my
daughters to drive there because it's not a good curve.
It's a it plays down in Pallas Verdes. But all
of that to say you know, at a little sad
for golf today, right, because as much as you've got
rom And and some of these other heavyweights, Tiger's still
a name when he's on the entry list. Uh, there's
(10:27):
still that hope against hopes, not only that he's gonna
be able to put together a round, but that, you know,
the golf gods, the sports gods, the damn it, we're
not old gods let him go through three or four
days without walking after a bad shot into the parking
lot and driving away. So this one was was a
(10:49):
sad one today for me and on another one of
our our contemporaries that father time got them.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
I mean, it's really it's been so long since Tiger
Woods was Tiger Woods.
Speaker 4 (10:59):
Right.
Speaker 1 (10:59):
He had the last Master's victory, which so much mirroring
Jack Nicholas's career, where you know, Jack won a bunch
and then didn't whin.
Speaker 4 (11:08):
We thought he was done. He won the eighty.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
Six Masters, the famous photo everybody has seen with him
seeing the putt go in on eighteen, and you know
that was Tiger's last one. Somehow he found a way
to win a few years ago and that really was it.
He just doesn't play enough golf in general, and it's
it's just strange that he has still had this kind
of mysticism and this kind of attension on him when
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when it's been you know, close to twenty years since
we've seen him be dominant. Ight, it's been a long
time since two thousand and eight, right, It's it's been
a while since, you know, he hits a you know,
he hits a fire hydrant on his way out of
his house, and his whole career goes, you know, sideways.
It's been a long time, and for him to still
have that hold over the sport really tells you about
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what he had when he was playing. And you think
about the times we used to talk about golf, you know,
in the two thousands, Ebby, it was insane. I mean,
Tiger Woods was a was a story that was we
talk about Tiger Woods like we talk about Lebron James,
like that's kind of what that's kind of what it
used to be.
Speaker 4 (12:08):
Like, what for Tiger Woods? He can he win? Here?
Can you do that?
Speaker 1 (12:10):
It doesn't matter if people didn't know anything about golf,
they knew Tiger Woods and what he meant to the game.
And and and that was how much he stirred uh
the sports world, and and for it to be now
you sit here and it's just so awful, and you
think about how he's still able to have all the
romanticism and the attention of all of us, of all fans,
and it's still golf is still about Tiger Woods. I
(12:31):
just hope he can still stay public. And like I said,
maybe we're putting it out there Tiger Woods for PGA
Tour commissioner.
Speaker 5 (12:40):
Or his son's caddy either what yeah, either one just
around the game.
Speaker 4 (12:45):
Yeah, I mean, because.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
He's still you know, the TGL stuff is making headlines
and and and that's great, but.
Speaker 5 (12:50):
That that was kind of fun, Like we talked about
it on air when he made his debut and had
the big w WE entrance music and all that kind
of stuff. So but I don't know how it's like
a lot of events that we have like that, it's
is sustainable, right to really build an audience.
Speaker 4 (13:07):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (13:08):
I'm sure you have some diehards if nothing else, you
get to hang out with Tiger Woods.
Speaker 4 (13:12):
So I mean, there's still gonna be.
Speaker 5 (13:14):
Some of that, as long as he promises to do
a little wave to the crowd. Maybe sign a couple
of autographs. You'll you'll still get people hanging around waiting,
wishing and hoping. But from the Gulf side of it, yeah,
it's it's just a tough run. I mean, as as
we've watched him and he'll try to battle back, there's
no question in my mind that we'll get an announcement
he's aiming for this date, uh and all of those
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kind of tales once again. But you know the that
that becomes the all right, I'll believe it when I
see it side of things, as opposed to all right.
He gives it the old college try, whether it's a
round or two rounds, maybe one or two big shots,
but that's hoping against hope anymore.
Speaker 1 (13:52):
Yeah, I mean, like five times, I'd feel lucky if
we see him play five more times, maybe one or
two Masters, maybe another. Maybe he tries to do all
of the majors one more time like that that will
be his goal, and maybe not all in one calendar year,
but I try to do all the majors one more
time because he deserves a farewell, he deserves something like that.
But I mean, that's really where I'm at, Like, I
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don't know, man, I don't know if we'll see him
play five more times.
Speaker 4 (14:16):
I hope, I hope.
Speaker 5 (14:17):
So yeah, But what I hope is it's not Hey playing,
is I enter? And then yeah, physically I'm done at
the end of day one, right, that becomes a sad
goodbye exit.
Speaker 4 (14:29):
How about a Fresco swollen dome.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
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Tirac dot Com studio is just huge, devastating news today
on Tiger Woods and all best thoughts to him and hopefully,
you know, this recovery is as best as it can
be and he gets back to you know, normal life.
Speaker 4 (14:43):
As soon as possible.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
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That's eight hundred for Rocket. Well coming up next, Yes,
another big day in NFL free agency. We had a
big quarterback signing, and boy, I didn't think I would
upset one team's fan base as much as I have
the last twenty four hours, But that's happened. So we'll
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get all that's coming up next right here, Jason and
Mike Fox Sports Radio.
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Speaker 4 (15:29):
You know, I gotta tell you some TI shirt.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
So I did a radio hit today during the day
with my friends at Edmonton, right, because you know we're
huge in Canada, are we?
Speaker 4 (15:40):
Oh yeah, yeah?
Speaker 1 (15:41):
Oh here I wish I wish, I wish, I wish
Canada mattered.
Speaker 4 (15:44):
In the ratings.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
Oh, you don't know that.
Speaker 4 (15:45):
They import us all the time.
Speaker 1 (15:47):
So I come on Normal and they give me this
song as my introduction.
Speaker 4 (15:52):
Do they right?
Speaker 1 (15:53):
And they specifically let it play for like twenty seconds?
And I'm like, are they waiting for me to say so?
Like I no, And they come on, Jason, how you
do it? I said, okay, I said, first thing, never
play this song again.
Speaker 4 (16:06):
It's enough. Did I get it every single night?
Speaker 1 (16:09):
And they go wow, you know, and the host Jason
Gregor says, you know, I'm with you. I don't think
I like this song either. I said, okay, cool, We're good, right, great?
I do the hit interview goes great, everything else that
Edmonton's fantastic, And I hang up and their producer texts me, sorry, dude,
they said, you're getting this song every time from you. Yeah,
come on man, Yeah, Like I couldn't have it go
(16:29):
and not address it how much I can't stand that song.
Speaker 4 (16:32):
No no, no, no dog good no no but now no,
now I'm getting it.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
When I go on, I'm like, okay, uh yeah, lose
my number, never doing.
Speaker 4 (16:38):
It, lose one.
Speaker 5 (16:40):
But you were question. You got to answer. But ty shirt,
look at that. You're a global superstar.
Speaker 4 (16:45):
And now you guys know I'm parts. I'm working in
Canada too. Oh that's good, very good. All right, Yeah, thanks.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
For coming on.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
Eh yeah yeah, no, make sure you get paid Canadian
because it's more, you know, it's actually do the exchange
rate is really.
Speaker 4 (16:57):
Really sure. Yeah, and a lot of my e as well.
We love here, that's what it's. It's all a boot
you have. You have no choice but to love Gretzky
like that's that's.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
We all drive sixty under, you know, five under?
Speaker 3 (17:08):
You all drive what sixty five under the speed limit?
Oh okay, we just want to get there on time,
you know, save.
Speaker 4 (17:14):
Okay, Now you're getting little you're getting little Scottish. Now
you get we don't have it. It's a bit of
a shorter flight coming over home. We don't drink to
our neighbors.
Speaker 5 (17:22):
Okay, if you feel the students starts sounding like Billy Connolly.
Speaker 1 (17:28):
If you feel like owning a home is out of
reach and you want to move to Canada like Ty Shirt, Hey,
Rocket is here to give you back the keys because
they believe everyone deserves a shot at the American dream.
Speaker 4 (17:37):
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That's eight hundred the number four r O c K
E T. Now, before we get to Daniel Jones, we
we have we have to we have to get to
Daniel Jones off of something. So yesterday we talked about
Sam Darnold and his journey to the Seattle Seahawks. One
hundred million dollar contract, three years, big deal, biggest of
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the moves and quarterback wise, and we talked about this
off the top of the show last night, and I said,
you know, it's such an epic fail by the Vikings
that they couldn't get more. They let him walk in
have an incredible year, four thousand yards thirty five touchdowns
Pro Bowl and walk out and you get a third
round compensation pick.
Speaker 4 (18:18):
That's great. That's an epic fail, and.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
That's a refusal to be able to be bold and say, hey,
we want to make sure if we're going to move
on from Sam Darnald, we get something for him right.
And we talked about it last night and I said,
you could have gotten a second round pick, a first
round pick for Sam Darnald because he was that sought after.
And I didn't think that was that much of a
hot take. I said, you know, you let that they
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just wanted to be done right. They were nervous that
maybe I'm sure they were nervous at all if we
if we franchised tag Sam Darnald and nobody wants them,
what are we gonna do? I'm sorry, that's you get
paid the big money to do right. This is not
you and I getting thrown in to run the Minnesota Vikings.
This is what you get paid all that money to do,
is to know, hey, we need to franchise Sam Darnald
so we can trade him someplace he's going to be
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well sought after and we can get something back for him.
That's just smart business right, and clearly the market was
there for a second or first round pick or play
whatever it is.
Speaker 4 (19:14):
It was there.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
Why because the Seahawks gave him one hundred million dollars.
They traded away their starting quarterback because they wanted Sam Darnald.
You really think they wouldn't give up a first round
pick for him, or a second or a high second
round pick, or a second round pick and a third
round pick or something like that. You really think a
team that won that gave him one hundred million dollars
if the Vikings said, well, we got him franchised for you,
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and that's forty million, so you can figure out the
rest of the money. That's fine, it's forty million. Okay,
it's only a few million more than the thirty three
million you agreed to. But still the Seahawks gave him
way more money than the Vikings gave him. So here,
here's franchise, Tad, we'll figure it out. Here's forty million,
we'll figure it out. You think the Seahawks are gonna say,
oh no, we're going to completely change the way we
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decided to go after this offseason. Oh no, we can't
give up a first round pick for him. Or two
seconds or a second and the third, whatever it is.
Of course they would have given it up. If they're
giving him one hundred million dollars to play the most
important position on the field, they would have given up
within reason, something you would have wanted, right, They would
have given that up so you could get him. Right,
the Seahawks aren't gonna say, oh, yeah, here's our plan
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for the offseason. But if they want a first round pick, no, no, no, no,
we're not gonna do that. Of course they would have
done it. The Vikings just wanted to be done with
Donald because they wanted to move on. They they had
the excuse of the last two games of him not
playing well. Wasn't protected very well in either of those
two games, but okay, he had two really bad games.
They wanted to be able to move on and say, okay,
we're done and no one's gonna blame us because he
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had the two bad games and the great season we
had went out the window because we lost the lines
and we lost the first game of the playoffs. They
decided to take the safe route and say, okay, no
one's gonna blame us now. Instead of the march of hey,
let's make sure we get something for We'll trade him
to a team he wants to go to. I'm not
saying you're gonna punish Sam darn say we're trading. No,
the teams that want, the teams that are in it
for Sam Donald are gonna want him as a free agent,
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and they're gonna want to trade for him.
Speaker 4 (21:00):
Like those teams are gonna change.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
It's not like you're you're saying, hey, we don't know
if we want a franchise Cooper Cup. No, people aren't
gonna want Cooper Cup. Sam Donald the number one quarterback
in free agency. Of course you're gonna be able to
move him someplace, and of course you're gonna get something
high for him. And that was the fail of the
Vikings because they could have done that and they didn't.
Speaker 5 (21:18):
Yeah, just the question of what was what was his
true valuation from a lot of teams, right in terms
of the old Jimmy Johnson draft board that we've been
talking about for thirty years, right, and that they originally
had pieced that together during his time with Gil Brandt
and all those guys in Dallas. So I'm wondering, right,
(21:38):
if you got the honest moment not the what you
tell a source, I mean, the honest moment you know
of what we're gonna We would have been willing to
give up for Sam Donald. Is it a day three
pick legit? I mean, or or might Seattle have come
to the table with the big with the big offer instead?
(21:59):
I mean the Vikis have had one hell of a
run the last forty eight hours. I mean, they've assembled
a lot of talent there. Now it's all continuing on
JJ McCarthy coming out being healthy and dominating. Because again
we'll get to the Daniel Jones thing in a second.
But maybe there's another reclamation project waiting in the wings.
And that's what Kevin O'Connell said. I fixed one. My
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job is to fix them all and need another one.
Speaker 1 (22:25):
I mean, just think about it from this perspective, right,
and you realize, boy, the Vikings got lucky, right. He
was never gonna play. He was only gonna be a
bridge guy until JJ McCarthy was ready. JJ McCarthy gets
hurt again. He comes in, four thousand yards, thirty five touchdowns,
You go fourteen and three. It's an incredible year. He
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goes to the Pro Bowl. He's one of the best.
He's one of the top six quarterbacks in the NFL
last year, and you just decided to say, yeah, no,
we're gonna let him walk away. Tell me, now, when
you look at it from that perspective, how much that
makes sense.
Speaker 4 (22:58):
Well, here's a guy, coach. Everybody is so starved for
a quarterback.
Speaker 1 (23:01):
You have no idea you have in JJ McCarthy, absolutely zero,
no idea at all. But no, No, here's a guy
that came in. He's like, you're doing everything we want. Yeah, see,
we're gonna let you go. Wait what I understand? Yah, sorry,
we're going. We got we we drafted this other guy
and I don't know, so you know, thanks, but we're
not really sure. And yeah we love you. But uh
yeah I don't know. But you saw what I actually did, right,
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This guy hasn't done anything. Yeah, yeah, but yeah we
still like that guy more. I don't know what it is, dude,
We just like it wars. This is a JJ and
it's kind of fun. And he didn't fail in three
places before we got him. But you saw how well
I worked here. You saw the rapport I had with
Justin Jefferson. So yeah, if you protected me a little
bit better, maybe we would have won the last two
games or one of the last two games protected like yeah, no, no, no,
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we still like the other guy.
Speaker 4 (23:47):
Sorry, and we're gonna let you go. What are you
gonna get?
Speaker 1 (23:49):
Well, probably a third round compensation pick at the end
of the round, which is like a fourth rounder.
Speaker 4 (23:53):
We'll get that for you.
Speaker 1 (23:54):
Oh okay, I mean, tell me in what world that
makes sense?
Speaker 4 (23:58):
It doesn't.
Speaker 5 (23:59):
Well, it does to the point of how many teams Again,
in terms of evaluation, we're looking at twenty twenty four
as the great anomaly versus what had been on tape
for Sam Darnold for a long long time. Other than that,
the thing is, you know, a vote of confidence of
people saying that you're sual. But even if you need
the quarterback, right, depending on where you are in the
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time continuum, looks part of me is still wondering that
I need to take a long walk on the beach
to think about what Seattle's doing. They're not winning anything, right,
so spending money on Sam Donald's.
Speaker 1 (24:32):
That's good money, is not bad money, that's but no,
But it's part of the beach conversation.
Speaker 4 (24:37):
That's a lot, but it is Battle's doing.
Speaker 5 (24:40):
But it is part of the larger conversation of a
lot of teams looking around going all right, we like say,
you're the New York Giants, you're Brian Dable and old
Joe Shane.
Speaker 4 (24:50):
Are you looking at Sam Donald?
Speaker 5 (24:52):
Going this is the guy that's gonna save our jobs.
We're getting three more years with this guy. I don't
know the jar.
Speaker 4 (24:58):
Yeah, I don't hear the jar here.
Speaker 1 (25:00):
Yeah, here's the right I fight back, yell on it
is that we would have known that there was no
interest in Sam Darnald if his contract was something way
less than what it was, right, what were we saying, hey,
maybe a two year deal, two years and fifty million
something like that. Forty million guy, this is three years
and one hundred million dollars, right, this is and it's
not like the Seahawks bid against themselves.
Speaker 4 (25:21):
They got it.
Speaker 1 (25:22):
If nobody else is bidding, well, we're not gonna pay that.
But the fact that that's what they had to pay
to get him tells me there was interest around the league.
Right now, I mean you can always love pretty sure
about that. Well, but but again, if you get stuck
with the bag.
Speaker 5 (25:35):
Now you got a forty million quarterback and you're not
getting the rest of this right, if nobody wants to
meet your asking price, like hell, we'll just keep him
at that rate. And then they're still gonna walk away
with the third round pick, exactly what the Seahawks got
for good old Genosmith.
Speaker 4 (25:51):
The guy.
Speaker 1 (25:51):
They said, Oh, we're gonna change our entire fall. We're
gonna change the direction of the franchise for Sam Darnold.
But what if you had to get a second round
pick or a second round pick? And I said, oh, no,
we're not going to do that. No, no, no, no,
we really want to change the franchise, but not that badly. Well,
we'll stick going down the road with Geno Smith and
whatever else we have here. I mean, really, that doesn't
that doesn't you know? The vikings were bad. They decided
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to take the easy way out because they were given
the out of Hey, Donald had a bad last two
games against the Law and all the narrative that he
was exposed, He's going back to the same old Sam
Donald that festered, and that became the narrative, and that's
how Donald was accepted. So that was their way to say,
you know, we're not going to make this any more
complicated than we have to be, so we're gonna let
it go. And in the end they let him come
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in and and do something that if JJ McCarthy that
they would extend him after his first year, they would say, listen,
let's extend you. I know you got four more years,
doesn't matter, doesn't we want to get a said they.
But instead this was, hey, you walk out, and not
only that, but we don't get anything for you other
than the pick that many teams get at the end
of the third round for compensation, picks like I mean that,
that's that's where I come back and go.
Speaker 4 (26:57):
Did they even try? How hard did they try? How
did they really try?
Speaker 1 (27:00):
Everything from Kevin O'Connell was we love Sam, but we
love JJ McCarthy too, right, There was no There was
no way to play poker at that point. This was
they were telling you we are gonna move on from
Sam Darnold. They didn't franchise, they did we are moving
on there. And this is not how you have sustainability.
Speaker 4 (27:16):
As a team.
Speaker 1 (27:17):
If this is as bad as Bill Belichick was the
last few years, you think he would have let people know, hey,
we're gonna we're gonna let a guy go. We're gonna
let a big quarterback walk. How many teams would have
let it be known that, yeah, we're gonna let this
really good quarterback walk, so don't worry about coming to
us with offers. Right, We're gonna let them walk because
we have another guy that we like to see.
Speaker 4 (27:32):
Okay, okay? How many teams would not even the Jets
would have done that.
Speaker 1 (27:36):
I mean, all right, the Jets might have done that,
but other teams mainly do twenty five, twenty seven, twenty eight,
other teams. Al right, the Raiders might have done okay,
all right, twenty nine. Other teams would have done that,
twenty nine.
Speaker 5 (27:46):
But maybe in the other universes, they're like, you know what,
Kevin O'Connell had some special language and a lot of
special players to get some greatness out of this guy.
What do we got that's gonna do that? Or is
he the guy again that we saw from twenty eighteen
to and in parts all the way up through twenty
twenty three. Is that gonna be worth a hundred million
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dollars to us instead of building infrastructure, which is you know,
a recurring theme you know for you and I as
we're talking about it, you know, the celebration and everybody
throwing parades in Chicago and whatever else. Like, you got
the offensive line right, bully for you finally got some
you know, you got the guts. Yeah, you got the
guts right for Minnesota. I like the looks of the
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roster now. The the quarterback McCarthy as healthy might be,
might as well be playing a wearing a Riddler outfit
right now, because I don't know what he's gonna be.
Speaker 1 (28:41):
He's a guy with a bunch of question marks on
because I have no idea. But the rest of the
roster looks pretty damn good. I mean, look, you have
to be able to abc always be closing right, You
have to be able to know that here's here's here's
a guy who came in that was really special at
a quarterback. Yeah no, no, no, we're kind of nervous.
We're go on, okay, great, And the Seahawk said, hey.
Speaker 4 (29:02):
This is awesome.
Speaker 1 (29:03):
We we didn't have to give anything up to get
our guy that we wanted all along. Boy, what we
feel really lucky about that man, really really lucky and
they got that extra the third.
Speaker 4 (29:13):
Exit, how about a Fresca exit swollen dome.
Speaker 1 (29:15):
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Speaker 4 (29:25):
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Speaker 5 (29:27):
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Speaker 1 (29:55):
Well, time out to check in from a guy who
has been called the Ragnar of Fox Sports. He rode
around on his motorcycle for a long time, finally upset
too many people and they told him.
Speaker 4 (30:07):
He can't do it anymore.
Speaker 3 (30:07):
It's Steve Desager and probably needs a shame. We have
four NBA games tonight. They're all final. We'll get to
Cleveland in just a moment, but guys, what a finish
at Indiana. Tyres Halliburton of the Pacers return tonight after
missing three straight games with a strained hit. The guy
averages nineteen points nine assists a game they're trailing final
seconds against Milwaukee on Pacers Radio, here comes a three.
Speaker 4 (30:31):
And a foul, A foul.
Speaker 1 (30:34):
A foul has Halliburton floating at a bounds in front
of the Milwaukee fence.
Speaker 4 (30:40):
Hits a three drop a foul.
Speaker 3 (30:43):
And made the free throw, a game winning four point
play with under four seconds left. Indiana beats Milwaukee won
fifteen one fourteen, each team with a record of thirty
six and twenty eight. Haliburton finished with fourteen points, ten assists,
just one turnover.
Speaker 1 (30:58):
Cleveland confused. Was there a foul on that last play?
That's correct, I don't think the play.
Speaker 3 (31:04):
This is just the opposite of the college announcer we
heard last night with no foul six times. Apparently it
was influenced. Cleveland won it's fifteenth straight game. They were
down early third quarter by eighteen points and still won
at home against Brooklyn one oh nine, one oh four.
Darius Garland thirty points. As Donovan Mitchell of the Cavs
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was out tonight with a groin injury. New Orleans got
a triple double from Zion Williamson and beat the Clippers
one twenty seven to one twenty Detroit all over Washington
one twenty three to one oh three. The Wizards now
with a record of thirteen and fifty one in college
hoops four conference finals tonight, including in Vegas. Right now again,
zag is still leading nineteenth ranks Saint Mary's forty eight
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forty four with about seven minutes to go. Saint Mary's
from three point ranges oh for thirteen. Zags are one
for thirteen from long distance. AP says that would be
one of the five worst combined for any game in
the last twenty seasons. As bad as the three point
shooting is. Update Gonzaga fifty to forty four over Saint Mary's.
Speaker 4 (32:09):
Yeah, but they didn't hit a three to get fifty.
Speaker 3 (32:10):
To five, certainly not running out of time to actually
make one. UNC Wilmington took the Colonial Tournament finals. Saint
Francis PA won the Northeast Conference forty six forty three
at Central Connecticut. Each team shot about thirty percent from
the floor. Saint Francis goes to the NCAA tournament with
a record of sixteen and seventeen. Robert Morris won THEI
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Horizon League, and we did have first round play in
the ACC tonight Syracuse Edge.
Speaker 1 (32:36):
Yeah State, Yeah, thirteen and eighteen. Here we go, Here
we go. We're gonna make that run and bus brackets.
What we're gonna do?
Speaker 3 (32:44):
Coach Leonard Hamilton done sixty six sixty two qs the
final Notre Dame, fifty five to fifty four winners against
pitt col won in double overtime against Virginia Tech. Eighty
two seventy three Big ten first round wins for Cincinnati, Colorado,
and Kansas State among the eleven NHL games, Carolina what
it's fifth straight for to one over Tampa Bay. The
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Buffalo Bill signed defensive end Joey Bosa. Baltimore Ravens also
agreed to a one year deal with this with wide
receiver DeAndre Hopkins.
Speaker 4 (33:13):
Back to you, thanks a bunch of Steve O.
Speaker 1 (33:15):
The Jason Smith Show with Mike Carbon live from the
tirerac dot Com Studios. Now, I do want to say, obviously,
you know, big story Leonard Hamilton after an incredibly successful career,
calling it quits and retiring as Florida State's head coach.
Speaker 4 (33:26):
You already have their next head coach for next year.
Speaker 1 (33:28):
Syracuse ends Florida State season most likely Florida State seventeen
and fourteen, And after the game game was on the
ACC Network, they spent a lot of time with a
big on court interview of Leonard Hamilton, which I thought
was really really classy because normally games like this you
talked to the winning coach. You move on, Hey, we're
onto our next game. This game started late and they
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spent a long time with an interview with him last
time walking off the courton. So I thought was a
really classy move by the ACC Network and talking to
Leonard Hamilton for one last time.
Speaker 5 (33:59):
Six hundred sixty career wins, sixty one percent winning at
Florida State, but gets retired by Syracuse.
Speaker 4 (34:06):
Yeah, Syracuse, we're retiring people now. Coming up next.
Speaker 1 (34:12):
So there was your bit on Sam Darnold, who can
be the Sam Darnald of twenty twenty five in the NFL? Wait, doll,
we tell you that's next right here, Jason to Mike
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Speaker 4 (34:41):
And as we.
Speaker 1 (34:43):
Look to next season in the NFL, we've had a
lot about Sam Darnald a few minutes ago.
Speaker 4 (34:50):
Who could be the Sam Darnald of twenty twenty five? Right?
Speaker 1 (34:53):
Who could be that quarterback that after years of either
not playing well or being a backup or someone that
everybody's cut bait on and no one thinks he's more
than a placeholder and a backup, who could be that
guy to suddenly jump out and say.
Speaker 4 (35:08):
Wow, here's a big year.
Speaker 1 (35:10):
Here's four thousand yards, here's thirty five touchdowns, and then
the team kicks him out the door.
Speaker 4 (35:15):
Have a big year, and that's completely unexpected.
Speaker 1 (35:19):
It's the guy that's signed with the Colts today, and
it's Daniel Jones. Okay, he's gonna battle it out with
Anthony Richardson. This is how the Colts have thrown it
out there, and it's a win win for the Colts.
Speaker 4 (35:30):
Right.
Speaker 1 (35:31):
This is Anthony Richardson's last chance to be a starting
quarterback with the Colts, maybe in the NFL because he
can't stay healthy and he's not nearly as advanced as
they hope he would be after only playing in a
handful of games in college football. Right, so it's a
win win, right If Daniel Jones pushes Anthony Richard to
be great, Hey, great, it's worth it. But Daniel Jones,
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they signed him thinking he's going to play, and they
have not said he's gonna come in and back up.
He's gonna win the job. This is gonna be Daniel
Jones is coming in. It's gonna be a quarterback derby.
And here's the thing about the Colts. The Colts are
kind of like the Vikings light. They have a really
good rushing attack. You have two good running backs led
by Jonathan Taylor Thomas the home improvement they have done
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at running back.
Speaker 4 (36:15):
Uh, and then you have four good wide receivers, right,
and you brought Dueling back today. I mean, Pittman is fantastic.
Speaker 1 (36:20):
Alec Pierce has big one hundred yard games once every
three four weeks.
Speaker 5 (36:24):
Josh Downs, I mean, if these were you know, consistent
with the ball and more accurate, think about the kind
of games Piers could actually.
Speaker 1 (36:31):
Oh yeah, I mean instead of go long and we're
gonna throw it to you a long three times a game.
Speaker 4 (36:35):
Right.
Speaker 1 (36:35):
Josh Downs is one of the best young wide receivers
in the NFL. And A Donna Mitchell is supposed to
be not that great last year, but they thought, I
think he would come in and have a better year.
But he's still really talented. This is a really good
offense in Indianapolis. You just need someone to be able
to get the football to the right guys. I mean,
you have the weapons there.
Speaker 4 (36:55):
Now.
Speaker 1 (36:55):
The defense is terrible, right, but they made some moves already.
They're trying to make that. They're trying to improve the
defense and free agency, but the division is not great
and it's clearly there for the taking. And they're really talented,
and they signed the right guy because we've seen Daniel
Jones flash.
Speaker 4 (37:09):
We've seen him do it in this offense.
Speaker 1 (37:11):
And again you're talking about who could be the Sam
Donald of this year, where hey, it goes from a
guy that's forgotten to hey, this guy's pretty good. This
guy look at what he did. We forgot about what
he could do. Daniel Jones is the guy, because he's
got all the weapons in Indianapolis, just like Donald had
when he went to Minnesota last year.
Speaker 4 (37:26):
So my money Sam Donald this year.
Speaker 5 (37:28):
Daniel Jones, Yeah, I'm moderately concerned that you lost two
of your offensive linemen to the Vikings. To bring it
full circle back to the Sam Donalds and JJ McCarthy
conversation over there, Ryan Kelly being the guy that really
stands out with the big blinking light when you lose
your center. But when you look at Indianapolis and we
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look at that division as a whole, Jacksonville is suddenly
getting it right.
Speaker 4 (37:53):
Duvall.
Speaker 5 (37:54):
You've got the Houston Texans. They've gotten rid of three
members of their offensive line and those were the guys
they liked. So what's DJ Stroud working with a Tennessee's
got the number one pick. So all of that to
say for the Colts. For stiking, he gets the reclamation project.
You get to roll the ball out like you're the
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Joker and Dark Knight and say all right, let's go
make it quick because we got work to do. We
can go win this division. I like it. I like
their skill position players one hundred percent. Just need to
figure out what that front five is and Daniel Jones
was always a guy that I had that soft spot for,
k saying, get this guy some talent around him. And
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you had Saquan for a bit, but they couldn't seem
to be on the field together. And then obviously had
the freak neck injuries, so that that took him out
of out of sorts and hopefully, you know, the full
full year of healing and learning. And you know Bucky
Brooks and I'm a couple months ago he surmised that
maybe he would be the next guy if Sam were
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to leave instead.
Speaker 1 (38:59):
He's a coal and you know, you mentioned Shane Steiken,
who is one of the best young offensive mines in
the NFL. You look at some of the offenses that
he was able to, you know, pilots. How he got
the gig with Indianapolis. It's quarterback friendly, you know, not
the dables, not quarterback friendly. But clearly there was some
sort of friction that worked for a little bit, but
then it didn't. Now he gets a chance to do
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things over again with Stikeen telling you, man, Daniel Dangel
Jones can be the Sam Darnald of twenty. I can't
believe we're having this conversation who could be the Sam
Darnold of this year? And it's Daniel Jones. I don't
know what's crazier that we're mentioning Sam Darnold or Daniel Jones,
but he's Indiana Jones. And you get to yo, you cheat,
doctor Jones. Oh exit out About a Fresca exit swollen dome?
Speaker 4 (39:39):
Coming up next?
Speaker 1 (39:40):
How about two big NFL Free Agency Day two hot takes.
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