March 14, 2025 • 37 mins
In the best of The Jason Smith Show with Mike Harmon, Dan Beyer and Aaron Torres fill in and react to DeMarcus Lawrence’s comments about wanting to leave Dallas & is there really a need to expand the NCAA Tournament?
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:20):
This is the best of The Jason Smith Show with
Mike Harmon on Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 3 (00:29):
Oh what a day, What an absolute day. And when
we're talking about what a day it is, it is
Aaron Torres's Sports Christmas Day. Here we are Mary Mary
Sports Christmas. Aaron Torres, my favorite day of the year.
Throwout my wife's birthday anniversary.
Speaker 4 (00:45):
O thatck.
Speaker 5 (00:45):
This is the day that I live for. Let's be
perfectly honest here, so great dad.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
And the reason being, you can't see this if you're
driving in your car right now. But I've got Kansas
Arizona on this TV. I've got Connecticut Villanova on that TV.
Speaker 4 (01:00):
Over here.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
We've got Missouri at Mississippi State and a barn Burner
on the SEC Tournament. We've even got a big ten
barnburner in Indianapolis between Purdue and USC and there's a
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This on the heels of all the great stuff that
we already had today on your sports Christmas Day.
Speaker 5 (01:33):
Yeah, I mean, listen, think about what we didn't mention.
Mountain West is underway, some big bubble games in that league.
We'll have some late night West Coast stuff going on.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
Eight.
Speaker 5 (01:43):
This This is how good it is. ACC tournament nowhere
to be found, nowhere to be found. Not just because
there's only three teams in the tournament right now and
the league is literally hard to be found in some cases,
but that's how good of a night. We have four TVs.
With respect to the other sports, it's March. We got
four different games on ACC's on the back burner, Mountain
(02:05):
West is on the back burner.
Speaker 4 (02:06):
AAC it's just a fun fun fund. And here's the
fact of the matter.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
What's the fact all of this is on the back
burner because of the drama that is in the NFL.
And the drama started in some and one of the
the least expecting spots. Sure in fact, Aaron Torres as
a as a lifelong Seahawks fan. The Seahawks today were
introducing their free agents. Sam Darnold got introduced, John Schneider
(02:33):
spoke with the media their GM about how the Geno
Smith trade went down, how the DK Metcalf trade went down.
Mike McDonald was even asked today, are you guys tearing
it down or are you guys going for it? There's
been some question in Seattle and what the Seahawks have
actually done in free agency. All of that was taking place,
(02:55):
but none of it could rise to the occasion of
the interview that DeMarcus Lawrence did the New a Seahawks
as he was in Seattle today talking about why he
chose the Seahawks and why the lifelong cowboy is no
longer a cowboy.
Speaker 4 (03:09):
This from DeMarcus Lawrence change.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
The scenery is always good, you know, but Dallas is
my home made my home there you know my family
lives there if I ever going to be there, but
I know for sure I'm not gonna win a Super
Bowl there.
Speaker 4 (03:22):
Oh boy.
Speaker 5 (03:24):
But Dak Prescott told us it's it's their time. It's
the Cowboys time. That's what Dak just said three weeks ago.
Speaker 4 (03:29):
Isn't it? Oh my goodness again?
Speaker 3 (03:32):
So I just want to Aaron's point about the Cowboys,
and I'll make it again about the Seahawks. Mike McDonald
was asked today by a reporter and a completely fair question,
are you tearing this down? Or are you building this up?
And DeMarcus Lawrence and I think they're building it up.
They're a ten win team. I actually think that they're
They're not tearing anything down. I think they're building it up.
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But the question is out there. And DeMarcus Lawrence feels
that that situation in Seattle is leaps and bounds better
than what he just spent his career with in Dallas.
Speaker 4 (04:04):
There you go, that tells everything.
Speaker 5 (04:05):
I mean, yesterday we were feeling in for Covino and
Rich and we were talking about Russell Wilson and what
the lack of offers tells you what people think about
Russell Wilson and to your point, DeMarcus Lawrence going to
Seattle given the you know dice, He's not the right word.
But you know, listen, I know you're a Seahawks fan,
but when when you when you start rattling off contenders
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off the tip of your tongue, I get it.
Speaker 4 (04:28):
Yeah, Seattle isn't the first one that comes to mind.
Speaker 5 (04:30):
It's probably not even third, No, maybe behind Casey and
Buffalo and Philly.
Speaker 3 (04:36):
May not be tenth, maybe only ten win team to
not make the playoffs this past year.
Speaker 5 (04:41):
Can I can I make a guilty confession? It's I
know it's not the slide over whatever hour that very hour, Yeah,
J Mart and I were doing some on our Saturday
show eight to eleven Pacific eleven and two am Eastern.
Speaker 4 (04:55):
The other day.
Speaker 5 (04:56):
We were doing some some NFL reaction stuff, and I
think it was in the heart of like will Matt
Stafford leave? And you know, we were kind of talking
the state of the division, and I said, J Mart,
I'm just gonna confess this. Apparently the Rams finished tied
with Seattle Seahawks for with a ten and seven record
in the division. I said, I don't remember Seattle winning
(05:17):
ten games. Now I know after doing a little homework,
the Rams clinched in week sixteen or week seventeen. They
rested all their starters week eighteen, whatever, So it wasn't
even though the record was the same, it wasn't maybe
as close of a race.
Speaker 3 (05:30):
I don't remember them winning ten games. I'm sorry, I
don't take it personally. It's totally fine. The only playoff
teams they beat were the Broncos in Week one and
the Rams in Week eighteen, who didn't play their starters
because they had the division clinched at that point. It's
a very weird and funky season. But yes, a ten
game winner like it is, like it was a funky,
funky season, which I think people are saying, Well, now
(05:50):
the Seahawks are trading DK Metcalf and they're trading they're
trading Gino Smith, like what is going on in Seattle?
And I just think that Sam Donald is a same
verse of Geno Smith. Both like to throw interceptions. Well,
it's just cheaper in a few years, younger.
Speaker 4 (06:06):
Real quick.
Speaker 5 (06:07):
It doesn't have to be a Seahawks conversation because I
know it's about the Cowboys. I think the I think
the Geno Smith trade is much more reflection of how
much Pete Carroll loves Geno Smith than it is anything
that Mike McDonald is or is not doing. You know
what I'm saying, Yeah, that just feels like that's Pete
Carroll's guy. He's going to ride or die with them,
veteran for his rebuild whatever. But I don't, you know,
(06:29):
And I think Mike McDonald was like, Oh, you're gonna
give me whether they give him a second round or
something like this.
Speaker 3 (06:33):
Essentially, it's what joh Steider said, what happened today, Kay,
They wanted to resign Geno Smith, and when Gino Smith's
camp didn't come back with a trade request, they had
already kind of had a plan B in case or
didn't come back with a contract counter to what their
offer was. Thirty five to forty million is what they
offered Gino Smith.
Speaker 4 (06:52):
They wanted more.
Speaker 3 (06:52):
You wanted to be a top ten paid quarterback in
the NFL. Johns Shatter says, Geno Smith's people didn't even
send a trade request back, so they felt good and
knowing that they could trade him to the Raiders because
of that relationship and how much Gino Smith loves Pete Carroll.
So you're absolutely spot on with that. But again, this
isn't about the Seahawks. We're talking about the Seahawks because
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DeMarcus Lawrence feels that they have a much better chance
at winning a Super Bowl than the Dallas Cowboys do.
And I think our point is right now, we don't
even know if the Seahawks are a top team in
the NFC at this point where people don't know if
they're building or tearing it down. Yet de Marcus Lawrence
joins them in free agency and sees them as a
much more viable option than the Dallas Cowboys. So it's
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not you ripping on Jerry Jones and the lack of
moves that they made, or me ripping on Jerry Jones.
It's the fact that you now have a player who
spent his entire career in Dallas does an interview saying
I know for sure I'm not going to win.
Speaker 4 (07:48):
A Super Bowl. There. Micah Parsons has responded to this.
Speaker 3 (07:51):
Video clip and quote tweeted quote xt whatever you want
to say, says this is what rejection and end look like.
This is some clown bleep DeMarcus Lawrence. Within the last
thirty minutes has responded, saying, calling me a clown won't
change the fact that I told you the truth. Maybe
if you spent less time tweeting and more time winning,
(08:14):
I would have. That's the first time I heard that
it is on. It is, it is on. So now
we've got the Michael Parsons tweeting, nothing about his podcast
or anything yet, but that could come. So DeMarcus Lawrence
is saying that Michaeh. Parsons isn't focused. So now, if
you're DeMarcus Lawrence, who has been there so long, maybe
(08:34):
you're in essence saying that Jerry Jones and the regime
that was there let stuff fly that shouldn't have.
Speaker 4 (08:41):
They shouldn't have let fly.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
There are so many underlying issues, and I know I'm
gonna come out of left field with this, and I'm
sorry I'm gonna make a food reference, but I've realized
who the Dallas Cowboys are, and the Dallas Cowboys.
Speaker 5 (08:55):
Are that you have to eat out of the garbage
because you're broken to do it at all.
Speaker 3 (08:59):
No o oh, the Dallas Cowboys are Pizza Hut. Pizza
Hut used to be the apple of anyone my age's
I I'm late forties. If you're in your forties, going
to Pizza Hut when you were a kid, absolute bliss.
The pizza was magnificent, The atmosphere eron Torres was magnificent.
(09:22):
It was the place to be. It was also expensive
as heck, like the Pizza Hut. It was like twenty
bucks a pizza back then. This is thirty years ago.
This is thirty five years ago, long long time ago.
But it was so good. You would go to the
Pizza Hut because delivery wasn't really available, at least in
my hometown, so you had sit down pizza huts. Those
(09:44):
have now all gone away. Pizza Hut also has kind
of changed their recipe. Actually they completely have changed their recipe.
It does not taste the same anymore. But you know
what Pizza Hut does. They sell you on nostalgia. You
go to their website. You see the red cups that
you drink while sitting in the restaurant when you were
a kid. You see the lamps that were over your
(10:05):
table when you were eating as a kid, all trying
to tricky. You see the same tablecloth, the red and
white criss cross tablecloth. You see that on their website
now because guess what they want you to think that
this is the same Pizza Hut that it was thirty
and forty years ago. And what DeMarcus Lawrence is telling
you is that it's not the same Pizza Hut. It's
not the Dallas Cowboys, so much so that I spent
(10:27):
my entire career with the Dallas Cowboys and I couldn't
wait to get out And I'm going to a team
that didn't even make the playoffs last year, and I
think they have a better chance at making the Super
Bowl than what they've got going on in Dallas. That's
my food analogy on this DeMarcus Lawrence Dallas Cowboys situation.
Speaker 5 (10:44):
The only counter that I would have. I don't think
Pizza Hut's falling off nearly as much as the Dallas
Cowboys have. I also don't now I'm not being sarca well,
I guess I don't think that the audience. I don't
think that the consumer is fool by the Dallas Cowboys anymore.
I think this has been and you know, I've heard
(11:04):
this these numbers sited on on some of our other
radio shows here on Fox Sports Radio. But attendance has
been down at the training camp that we have not
far from where we are in what is it upstair Venture. Yeah,
Oxenn Art Area attendance is down. You know, I've seen
people cite the Athletic Poll where Cowboys fans don't believe
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they're a Super Bowl contender, and it like, I'm not
even being sarcastic. I feel like the only person that
thinks the Cowboys are a contender right now is Jerry Jones,
no sarcas. I mean apparently Michael Parsons. But like you know,
I've used this analogy and not this analogy, but this
story on my show is my nephew is young.
Speaker 4 (11:42):
You know, he's younger than me.
Speaker 5 (11:43):
He's about, you know, twenty twenty two years old, lifelong
Cowboys fan. He's too young to have remembered the glory
days with Emmitt Smith and Troy Aikman and all that.
Speaker 3 (11:50):
So he's too young to remember any glory with any glory, no, no,
no doubt.
Speaker 4 (11:54):
And you know, but he's been glasses half full.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
You know.
Speaker 5 (11:57):
He used to come visit me here in California, We
went up to ox Start a few times, and he's
always been glasses that full. And I was in Connecticut
this fall. And this was even before the Dak injury,
and I was like.
Speaker 4 (12:09):
How you feeling, man? You know, you know, they got
off to a not great start.
Speaker 5 (12:12):
I seem to remember a blowout against the Saints early
in the season, a blowout against the Ravens that they
cut close and made it look respectable even though it wasn't.
Speaker 4 (12:22):
But I just remember this was before Dak got hurt.
Speaker 5 (12:24):
He's like, it's awful. He's like, I know, we have
no shot. Our quarterback is stuck with us long term.
Our quarterback isn't the answer. Ownership doesn't help. And it
was more of a Jerry thing than a Dak thing.
But the only reason I don't totally agree with your
analogy is because I don't think anyone like we know
what Pizza Hut is, and I don't think Pizza Hut
is trying to sell us that they are.
Speaker 4 (12:46):
Don't you know, don't disagree with the analogy.
Speaker 3 (12:48):
And I'm going to tell you why, because you weren't
old enough or you're too young to remember what Pizza
Hut meant to us. And that star on that helmet,
Aaron Torres is a symbol that so many grew up
and now Dallas is trying to regurgitate the same thing
that Pizza does Pizza Hut does with their awful pizza.
It is, it is, It is so disappointing. We remember
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the glory days. I even asked Debrie, who I think
is younger than you, and she said, yeah, she's never
been a fan of Pizza Hut.
Speaker 4 (13:18):
You probably have never been. I don't remember it being
like that was. It was the cats meow.
Speaker 3 (13:25):
I am telling you of pizza places because there weren't
eighty seven chains either, But Pizza Hut was was what
it was. And now what Pizza Hut tries to tell
you is remember all this stuff that's old, completely ignoring
the fact that their ingredients just aren't good anymore. And
they take stuff and they try to redo it over
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and over again. And I feel that's the cowboys. Their
ingredients aren't good. They've got like three good players. They've
got a good thing, crust, pepperoni, that's it. That's all
that they've got. And they're trying to still sell us
on the lore of the star and everything that comes
with it when it hasn't been that way for thirty years.
Speaker 5 (14:02):
Yeah, that's fair, that's fair. The only thing. I just
I think they are trying to sell us. I just
don't think anybody is buying it. I just I know
Mark Michael Parsons has to say the company line, but
I just you know, it's just amazing to me, is that, like,
first of all, and I think these are conversations we're
gonna have throughout the summer into the fall.
Speaker 4 (14:21):
One.
Speaker 5 (14:21):
I just I think they might be legitimately the one
of the worst teams in the league. But I don't
ever remember a season going into a season where there
was just no reason to have excitement. Brian Schottenheimer was
not a candidate for any other head coaching job. On
top of all of the other things that got screwed
up that Jerry Jones has screwed up the last couple
of years, that coaching search was as big of an
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abomination as anything that I have ever seen in professional sports.
You frankly wait two to three years, probably too late,
to fire Mike McCarthy. Then the season tanks, then he
does just enough for you to consider keeping him, and
then you wait till after this the point I'm trying
to make, I just think that I don't think we
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can undersell how big of an abomination that search was,
if you want to call it a search, that coaching
higher and the residual effect of I just.
Speaker 4 (15:14):
I don't think the Cowboys are relevant going into twenty
twenty five. I just don't.
Speaker 3 (15:17):
I don't think. I don't think so either. But I
also think that people would take eight other spots before
they order pizza Hut. They would rather take local jeens.
Are you a Dominoes or Pizza Hut guy? Are you
you either?
Speaker 2 (15:29):
Not?
Speaker 5 (15:29):
Really?
Speaker 4 (15:29):
I would take pizza Hut.
Speaker 3 (15:30):
Can I ask her on, Shae? Are you a Dominoes
or you a Pizza Hut guy? If you had to
pick one, Shae.
Speaker 4 (15:38):
I love the pizza hut stuffed crust. So you're a
pizza hut.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (15:43):
Yeah, a pizza hut. All right.
Speaker 5 (15:44):
I remember when Manzi lost a bet with me and
had to buy a pizza Hut for the whole place. Sorry, Brady,
I mean to cut you out. I was just poking
Manzi because she likes that.
Speaker 4 (15:50):
Are you a pizza Hut person? I am an all
pizza person, don't I don't discriminate. Here's the deal.
Speaker 3 (15:56):
Yeah, Dominoes went and they said, here's garlic palm bites done. Yes,
here are cinnamon twists, like.
Speaker 4 (16:03):
Am I gonna buy a seven dollars? You know little
Caesars pizza.
Speaker 3 (16:06):
Hey, if it's nearby, sure, absolutely, I don't discriminate, but
they all mix in the same pizza. Just takes the
same stuff and tries to make it all over again.
Like you've got other other teams, other brands are passing
them by because they're just sitting there living in the
past like the Dallas Cowboys are. And it took DeMarcus
Lawrence going to Seattle again to a non Super Bowl contender,
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to basically say what everybody else was saying. No former
Cowboys were saying this. No one was saying this. But
as you said, you feel that everybody believes that the
Cowboys are a joke. I agree. I think that everybody does,
except the Dallas Cowboys. But now you have a former
player who spent his entire career there who's going out
and saying, yeah, you're not gonna win a Super Bowl
in Dallas, And the place that he's going isn't even
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on your radar. Of teams in the NFC that have
a chance to make the playoffs or maybe go to
the Super Bowl, I think that's even more of an
indictment on the Dallas Cowboys than it is on DeMarcus
Lawrence's new team of the Seattle Seahawks.
Speaker 5 (17:01):
Seahawks not in Tours's Top three Super Bowl I don't
want to spoil all of our July and August content.
By the way, Bri, I completely cut you off. Are
you a Pizza Hut person or no, I'm so rude.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
I'm neither.
Speaker 4 (17:12):
I love roundtable pizza.
Speaker 3 (17:13):
There you go see round tables, just the round tables
the Eagles and Dominoes. Are the forty nine ers or
the Lions or just all these other teams that are
taking over them.
Speaker 4 (17:23):
It's just there.
Speaker 3 (17:23):
There was a point when Pizza Hut was what it
was and just like the Dallas Cowboys were something, and
it is no more. Man the Marcus Lawrence though the
shot at Micah Parsons personally at the end, tweeting too much, I.
Speaker 5 (17:40):
Will say in the Jersey swap era, I love when
guys actually go at each other.
Speaker 4 (17:45):
And that was that was pretty Yeah, that was magnificent.
All right.
Speaker 3 (17:47):
He's Aaron Torres, I'm Dan Byer. We are in for
Jason Smith and Mike Harmon. Doing a little nighttime work.
You're more used to the evening than I am, so
this is this is fun.
Speaker 4 (17:57):
I'm excited.
Speaker 5 (17:57):
I would say during the week, I get up at
about five thirty every day, so I'm not totally used
the evenings.
Speaker 3 (18:02):
But yes, you can hear me when you're here at work.
Oh yeah, yeah, no doubt, Yes, absolutely fine. Aaron at
Aaron Underscore, Torres Monci Milaanos is at the news desk tonight,
so keep us up to date on what's happening in
all of these conference tournament games, at least the games
that matter, and what's also happening in the association.
Speaker 4 (18:18):
Uh.
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Speaker 2 (18:41):
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Speaker 4 (18:50):
The hoops. Just keep on comment and comment and coming.
Speaker 3 (18:53):
Yes, we've got more games Utah State and UNLV just
underway in Las Vegas.
Speaker 5 (18:58):
I'm sad though we had the Force Green's going for
the first two hours, we're down to three now.
Speaker 4 (19:03):
Said is that it wet? Nothing else live? Anything else? Oh,
we got something at ESPNU bre Yeah, there's gotta be
some of Big West going on, but.
Speaker 5 (19:13):
I don't know if it's on TV though tomorrow I
think Big West moves to the to the U as
the kids used to see.
Speaker 3 (19:18):
You're not likely to see Cooper flag on TV tomorrow
because he's not likely going to play for Duke in
the AMIST.
Speaker 5 (19:26):
I guess it just went final. I have East Carolina
UTSA showing as still being live, but it's final and
now we got a Stanford replay.
Speaker 3 (19:35):
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Aaron Torres, and I will get to that in a second.
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I've I were you in with me when I complained
about the TVs at a local establishment about two weeks ago.
Speaker 4 (20:04):
Yes, I was with you.
Speaker 3 (20:05):
Yes, I tonight went and grabbed devite to eat prior
to the show. You did not choose to join us,
Aaron Torres. But Bree came over for a delicious glass
of water and a few cheese kurts and a couple
of boneous wings.
Speaker 4 (20:21):
Right, Brie, that's what you got. Love cheese Kurts.
Speaker 3 (20:24):
Now, big fan you should be because they are delicious.
As we said at this establishment. And again, my rule
is every sports bar or place that prides itself on
having twenty TVs in should hire someone solely responsible for
making sure relevant games and events are happening on those TVs.
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There is a restaurant in southern California that is a
local chain, not a national chain, Pizza Hut. Oh no,
We're going to ease off Pizza Hut for a little while.
It is a local chain that I know does not
have any packages. You know why because the only channels
they have on are ESPN, ESPN two, Fox, Sports One
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and the Dodger slash Lakers Spectrum Channel. Sure, they have cable,
that's what I have. They have cable, so they have
twenty TVs around, but they're all showing the same things.
And I just a'm like, hey, if you're going to
call yourself a sports bar, you step up your game.
You can have cable, and you have to get a
satellite as well. You got to provide everything for everyone.
Speaker 4 (21:32):
It's a chain, you said in southern California. It's a
Southern California chain.
Speaker 3 (21:36):
It's got to be Rocos then no, or at Barney No,
it's there's initials. I don't want to out them, but
it's a GGI Friday No, And I would never throw
shade at them. I love TGI Fridays at This is
the point being the established. Yea, I was at tonight,
the establishment that I was at tonight had the Lakers
Bucks came on on the big screen.
Speaker 4 (21:55):
That's totally fine.
Speaker 3 (21:56):
We're in southern California, we're in LA, We're in the
San Fernando Valley.
Speaker 4 (22:00):
I get it. It was great for me. The Bucks were
playing Bucks win the game. Awesome. They had MLB Network,
ESPN was showing the Big twelve. Cool.
Speaker 3 (22:10):
They had soccer on a TV. They had the Golf
Channel and a replay of the Players Championship which had
been over for a couple of hours because it was
called for darkness NBA TV, which why is NBA TV
on when you have your NBA game that you're watching
right correct, NFL Network, nothing's going on, but probably they
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played from one. No, they did have CBS Sports Net
and then Trivia, so at the time Aaron Torres, two
college basketball games were being aired. During this time, it
was whatever it was on CBS, which, by the way,
CBS Sports Net. The two TVs that were on were
so far away from me. I don't even know which
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game it was on. It may have been like Nevada playing,
And then the Big twelve Baylor Texas Tech game was
on ESPN. And that's that's unacceptable. If you're running a
sports bar, you need to have people understand that the
atmosphere is all of the games, and replaying highlights from
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the Golf channel, as much as I love golf from
the Players Championship that ended an hour and a half ago,
is not good for your atmosphere. That's my problem.
Speaker 5 (23:21):
So you mentioned that that I didn't come. I was invited,
but by the time I got you know, the invite. No, no, no,
not your fault. By the time I got the invite,
I wasn't ready to cut it. I wasn't going to
get there in time. Let me just tell you. If
I had shown up, I would have thrown a fit
like a six year old, like you left your child
at home to focus on work. If I had gotten
there and there was one and a half TVs on
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college basketball, I would have freaked out like a child.
Speaker 4 (23:48):
Yeah, that was It was so odd.
Speaker 5 (23:50):
No, it's so unacceptable. And you know, listen a little,
a little deep dark secret about me. I do one
day hope to own a sports bar. And the whole
point of owning a sports bar. Working in a sports
bar is obviously the sports right. And it's like the
the atmosphere on a big sports day.
Speaker 4 (24:10):
It doesn't matter what it is we talked to yesterday.
Speaker 5 (24:12):
It could be the opening day of Major League Baseball,
could be the opening Sunday of the NFL. It could
be Super Bowl Sunday when every TV is on the
same TV. But when we have these special sports days,
you can't miss, you know, it's like It's like, you
can't show up and shoot one for ten in the
biggest game of the season. This is one of the
biggest games of the season. Today, I don't need Bucks Lakers.
Speaker 3 (24:33):
From six hours ago, exactly exactly, even though that game
was going on. And I get it while it was there,
But yeah, NFL network, what's the point even if they're
holding a airing a press conference, you can't hear it
because the sound from the Bucks Lakers game is going on.
So what's the point of seeing someone talking when you
can't hear what they're saying anyway, And this just happens
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time and time and time again. You need a designated
person to know these games. And in fact, every commercial
break tonight, Aaron Torrez has been going to our executive
for three ye saying, Okay, Bree, we now need this
game on this TV. We now need that game. This
game has ended. It's okay, let's put it's what tonight
is for.
Speaker 5 (25:14):
No, and I would say this there is there needs
to be, like you said, a designated person, you know how,
like every sports talk radio host is like, there needs
to be a sports zar for there needs to be
the sports zar at the bar because there is nothing
more annoying as a consumer. Like the other night I
went out to dinner and the bar had spring training.
(25:36):
This was like seven o'clock at night, spring training Dodgers
baseball that clearly ended at two pm in the afternoon.
And and by the way, it actually happened to be
the night that it was, the Lakers Nicks game was on.
Now I will defend this wasn't a sports bar, but
there was a TV with the express purpose of putting
sports on. And I will say, especially in La, no
excuse for not having a big Lakers Thursday night CNT game.
(25:58):
But it's like, what are we doing? I mean, what
kind of society or would they say what do we
what separates us from the animals or something? I don't know.
We need something we accepted. Just get it, yeah, just
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NC DOUABLEA Tournament could be changing in ways that many
people are not happy about. Conversations this year have been
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about expanding the field, possibly to seventy two, possibly to
seventy six. And it sure seems like seventy six is
the number. Doesn't seem like seventy two is on the
table anymore. But this is a decision, Aaron.
Speaker 3 (26:53):
That could be coming in the next couple of weeks
that we could see expansion to the NC DOUBLEA Tournament.
Where are you on expanding from the field of sixty
eight to seventy six.
Speaker 5 (27:05):
I have the most generic, boring response to it. I'll
try to be quick. I don't think it's the end
of the world, but I don't love it. And the
reason I don't love it is not the reason that
you think. The reason I don't love it is because,
as we've learned in the.
Speaker 4 (27:21):
College football Playoff, the.
Speaker 5 (27:23):
Second that you kind of bend to the powers that
be and we know why we're doing it, we're doing
it all for money, for a bunch of rich dudes
and suits that we're never going to meet. The second
that you do it, they don't stop. Like if there
was some something written in stone that we will go
to seventy six. But it stays seventy six in perpetuity,
(27:47):
then that's fine. But Dan Byer, we just had our
first twelve team college football playoff, and before it was
even done, it was understood that we were going to fourteen,
and so, yes, seventy six is, but how soon until
it gets to ninety six and we're starting the tournament
on Tuesday in full and it kills that first Thursday,
(28:08):
that first full weekend of the tournament, which is in
your opinion, the best best day, best two days in sports.
In my opinion, it's Day three and Day four behind
this Thursday and this Friday. It is one of the
great sports moments on the calendar. And I'm just telling
you we open the door for expansion. The powers that
be aren't stopping at seventy sex.
Speaker 3 (28:28):
You're feeling that this is just a step closer to
the inevitable, which would be what everybody would be against, say,
ninety six schools. Right, That's that's essentially what you're saying.
So the longer that we stay at sixty eight means
the further we're away from ninety six. And if we
move to seventy six, that means and we're closer to
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ninety six and ruining what we've got.
Speaker 5 (28:50):
Yes, I don't believe that nobody, nobody likes making less
money even entire time when it's maybe for the best,
and I think it's for the best of the sport
that we don't go beyond sixty eight. By the way,
this is another conversation that, you know, for us to
have at some point in the future. I think we're
getting dangerously close to too much expansion in college football
(29:14):
that it's going to devalue the regular season. I know
people don't think it's possible, but I think we're getting
dangerously close. And I think, you know, I'll just be quick.
I know, I'm Rambley. Look at how awful the bubble
is this year and think about adding eight more teams
on top of the mediocrity that we're already letting in.
Speaker 4 (29:32):
I look at the bubble as it is what it is.
Speaker 3 (29:37):
In the fact of I don't know if teams can
really or if fans can really separate what the difference
between a Boise State team is an Indiana team, you're
an Ohio State team. They're all just bubble teams to
people anyway, when we are watching today and Aaron I
would say that we are in probably the minority of
(29:59):
people who have an interest in saying, oh, look, Oklahoma
right now is giving Kentucky all they can handle. That
could affect the bubble. Look, Indiana loses to Oregon, what's
that going to do to the Hoosiers. I'm not sure
the vast majority of people are looking at that. What
I do think people would look at is guess what
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Indiana Oklahoma Tuesday in Dayton or in some other site.
Maybe they'll end up watching that game. In that essence,
I don't I am actually not for expansion. I'm closer
to where you are. I'm good with it. I don't
think that what it will do, it will not. Listen,
(30:44):
sixty five didn't do it, and sixty eight didn't do it.
It didn't ruin the integrity of the bracket. And I
know it's a common theme, but seventy six isn't going
to do it either.
Speaker 4 (30:56):
It's not.
Speaker 3 (30:57):
No, you're right, And honestly, if there are games on
two Tuesday, and there are early games on Tuesday, and
if those games are maybe they'll keep the better teams
that night as you're filling out your bracket, maybe you
don't put it into Wednesday night until those teams have
already moved on to the full bracket.
Speaker 4 (31:12):
Anyway, I just don't think you're going to.
Speaker 3 (31:14):
See an uproar or a change in brackets just by
adding those four games. And again those four games. When
we're watching the first four in Dayton right now, we
don't really pay a lot of attention to the sixteen
seed matchup, but we do to the two twelve seeds
that are playing, or the two eleven seeds, and guess what,
when they actually get into the bracket, maybe we don't
(31:37):
care enough about them at that point to follow them
unless they make a run like VCU or make a
run like UCLA, and then it becomes more of a story.
But I do think for that night, those two teams
and those two brands do put on a show. And
if you can add eight more of those teams, the
bubble expands to the further level. And that's where I'm
(31:59):
all also saying, where I'm looking at a bracketology sheet
right now that says the next four out are Dayton,
UC Irvine, Wake Forest in Villanova, and two of those
fours are in major college you know, major college conferences.
Right now, Villanova is a two time national champ. I
know it's not the same, but there's that brand name
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with it. So the bubble is always going to fluctuate
with different teams every year, and it's going to get bigger.
I don't see a point where it's going to be
affected because I don't think we care about it as
much right now. We've seen heck, NC State went on
their run last year and winning the tournament end up
going to the Final four. I don't think it lessens
the bracket at all. I think you can only enhance
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Tuesday and Wednesday, which I think are mediocre days in
the NCAA tournament. And that's why I'm all for it. It
would allow another site to hold games because then teams
wouldn't have to travel maybe as much. If you were
to able to put a site out west or have
a later night game, that would allow a team to
be put into, say a site you can put games
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in Las Vegas on that Tuesday night after the late
game in Dayton, you go off to Las Vegas and
watch another game. I think all of that would be fine.
I don't think people would matter or mind it at all,
and it wouldn't ruin your bracket.
Speaker 4 (33:12):
That's why I'm yes.
Speaker 5 (33:14):
And that's where like again, and I think I said
this to lead the segment is like, it's not that
I believe that the whole event will be ruined by
going to sixty it's going to seventy six teams. That's
not what I'm saying. All I am saying is that
you're getting You're getting to your point. The term you
used is the integrity of the bracket. And I think
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once you get to seventy six, the next step is
the step that kind of screws up everything that makes
the NCAA Tournament the NCAA tournament.
Speaker 4 (33:45):
And I think we would get there. I do.
Speaker 5 (33:47):
I don't think that when you open the door, when
you and by the way, see you remember this because
you're a diehard just sports fan. They tried to do
this about what fifteen years ago? Do you remember they
tried to go to ninety six and the public very
publicly shouted it down and was just like that is
not acceptable, and they didn't do it. And I think
that's how we got to sixty eight. But anyway, the
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point I'm trying to make is that that's my concern.
It's not you know, what do they say is not
the step, but it's a step after, and that's my concern.
Speaker 4 (34:15):
I don't got no, no, I'm sorry. I thought you
were done. Go ahead and finish your point. Why did
they really get to a point? So that that's on me?
Shame on me. It's it's twelve seventeen Eastern.
Speaker 3 (34:24):
And the thing that I was gonna say was the
reason they went to sixty five is because it was
the splitting up of the Whack. Yes, and it went
to the Mountain West. And what they said, and again
this tells you all you need to know. The nc
double A and the powers at b are that are
running the NCAA tournament decided we are not giving up
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an at large bid to allow for this separation. So
think about it. If you have a conference champion from
at that time, the Whack, which was like a sixteen
school league, and that splits off into the Mountain West Conference,
you now have an additional conference that wants an automatic bid.
Well instead of taking one of the at large bids
(35:06):
away from the schools, the NCAA said no, no, no, no, no, no,
you're not going to do that, We'll just expand the
tournament and make it sixty five games and make these
two sixteen seeds play two days before they're supposed to
play their first round game. That's that's the length that
they went to keep their number of schools in. And
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what Erin is talking about is we're talking about at
large berths expanding. So if they're going to that length
to not decrease it by one by one spot to
keep it from sixty four, instead they go they're making
two schools play an entirely extra game in a city
that normally isn't hosting first round games except maybe every
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five years or so. Dating they are first round and
second round games a dayton. They went to that length
to protect the number of at large bids. That's what
Aaron is worried about, is if you're going to go
to seventy six, which then provides eight more at large
bids because there wouldn't be automatic bids coming from other conferences,
how far do you go and how quickly.
Speaker 4 (36:10):
Does it go?
Speaker 3 (36:10):
Where you now want another twenty more at large bids
to go to ninety six.
Speaker 5 (36:13):
And I'll be quick on this because I know we
gotta get to it. But the sentiment that I have,
is the sentiment that everybody has, is if you were
going to use the additional bids for you mentioned the
teams that are on the fringes of the bubble, a
team like U see Irvine that let's be real, they
haven't played the toughest schedule, but they are in their
conference tournament at twenty seven and five overall. If you're
(36:35):
going to add that team, that's fine, but realistically, that
team is probably not getting in over a Wake Forest,
over a seventeen and fifteen Ohio State team, And that's
where the I think that's where, among other things, the
issues come in, is that it's going to be.
Speaker 4 (36:51):
More power conference schools.
Speaker 5 (36:52):
By the way, just in this year specifically, we're looking
at a minimum of thirteen SEC teams, probably nine from
the Big Ten, eight from the Big twelve, and it's like,
so we're gonna add even more to that from the
power conferences because that's where those bids are going to
come from.
Speaker 4 (37:04):
He's erin Torres. I'm Dan Byer.
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Throwout my wife's birthday anniversary.
Speaker 4 (00:45):
O thatck.
Speaker 5 (00:45):
This is the day that I live for. Let's be
perfectly honest here, so great dad.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
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Speaker 4 (01:00):
Over here.
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Speaker 5 (01:33):
Yeah, I mean, listen, think about what we didn't mention.
Mountain West is underway, some big bubble games in that league.
We'll have some late night West Coast stuff going on.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
Eight.
Speaker 5 (01:43):
This This is how good it is. ACC tournament nowhere
to be found, nowhere to be found. Not just because
there's only three teams in the tournament right now and
the league is literally hard to be found in some cases,
but that's how good of a night. We have four TVs.
With respect to the other sports, it's March. We got
four different games on ACC's on the back burner, Mountain
(02:05):
West is on the back burner.
Speaker 4 (02:06):
AAC it's just a fun fun fund. And here's the
fact of the matter.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
What's the fact all of this is on the back
burner because of the drama that is in the NFL.
And the drama started in some and one of the
the least expecting spots. Sure in fact, Aaron Torres as
a as a lifelong Seahawks fan. The Seahawks today were
introducing their free agents. Sam Darnold got introduced, John Schneider
(02:33):
spoke with the media their GM about how the Geno
Smith trade went down, how the DK Metcalf trade went down.
Mike McDonald was even asked today, are you guys tearing
it down or are you guys going for it? There's
been some question in Seattle and what the Seahawks have
actually done in free agency. All of that was taking place,
(02:55):
but none of it could rise to the occasion of
the interview that DeMarcus Lawrence did the New a Seahawks
as he was in Seattle today talking about why he
chose the Seahawks and why the lifelong cowboy is no
longer a cowboy.
Speaker 4 (03:09):
This from DeMarcus Lawrence change.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
The scenery is always good, you know, but Dallas is
my home made my home there you know my family
lives there if I ever going to be there, but
I know for sure I'm not gonna win a Super
Bowl there.
Speaker 4 (03:22):
Oh boy.
Speaker 5 (03:24):
But Dak Prescott told us it's it's their time. It's
the Cowboys time. That's what Dak just said three weeks ago.
Speaker 4 (03:29):
Isn't it? Oh my goodness again?
Speaker 3 (03:32):
So I just want to Aaron's point about the Cowboys,
and I'll make it again about the Seahawks. Mike McDonald
was asked today by a reporter and a completely fair question,
are you tearing this down? Or are you building this up?
And DeMarcus Lawrence and I think they're building it up.
They're a ten win team. I actually think that they're
They're not tearing anything down. I think they're building it up.
(03:54):
But the question is out there. And DeMarcus Lawrence feels
that that situation in Seattle is leaps and bounds better
than what he just spent his career with in Dallas.
Speaker 4 (04:04):
There you go, that tells everything.
Speaker 5 (04:05):
I mean, yesterday we were feeling in for Covino and
Rich and we were talking about Russell Wilson and what
the lack of offers tells you what people think about
Russell Wilson and to your point, DeMarcus Lawrence going to
Seattle given the you know dice, He's not the right word.
But you know, listen, I know you're a Seahawks fan,
but when when you when you start rattling off contenders
(04:26):
off the tip of your tongue, I get it.
Speaker 4 (04:28):
Yeah, Seattle isn't the first one that comes to mind.
Speaker 5 (04:30):
It's probably not even third, No, maybe behind Casey and
Buffalo and Philly.
Speaker 3 (04:36):
May not be tenth, maybe only ten win team to
not make the playoffs this past year.
Speaker 5 (04:41):
Can I can I make a guilty confession? It's I
know it's not the slide over whatever hour that very hour, Yeah,
J Mart and I were doing some on our Saturday
show eight to eleven Pacific eleven and two am Eastern.
Speaker 4 (04:55):
The other day.
Speaker 5 (04:56):
We were doing some some NFL reaction stuff, and I
think it was in the heart of like will Matt
Stafford leave? And you know, we were kind of talking
the state of the division, and I said, J Mart,
I'm just gonna confess this. Apparently the Rams finished tied
with Seattle Seahawks for with a ten and seven record
in the division. I said, I don't remember Seattle winning
(05:17):
ten games. Now I know after doing a little homework,
the Rams clinched in week sixteen or week seventeen. They
rested all their starters week eighteen, whatever, So it wasn't
even though the record was the same, it wasn't maybe
as close of a race.
Speaker 3 (05:30):
I don't remember them winning ten games. I'm sorry, I
don't take it personally. It's totally fine. The only playoff
teams they beat were the Broncos in Week one and
the Rams in Week eighteen, who didn't play their starters
because they had the division clinched at that point. It's
a very weird and funky season. But yes, a ten
game winner like it is, like it was a funky,
funky season, which I think people are saying, Well, now
(05:50):
the Seahawks are trading DK Metcalf and they're trading they're
trading Gino Smith, like what is going on in Seattle?
And I just think that Sam Donald is a same
verse of Geno Smith. Both like to throw interceptions. Well,
it's just cheaper in a few years, younger.
Speaker 4 (06:06):
Real quick.
Speaker 5 (06:07):
It doesn't have to be a Seahawks conversation because I
know it's about the Cowboys. I think the I think
the Geno Smith trade is much more reflection of how
much Pete Carroll loves Geno Smith than it is anything
that Mike McDonald is or is not doing. You know
what I'm saying, Yeah, that just feels like that's Pete
Carroll's guy. He's going to ride or die with them,
veteran for his rebuild whatever. But I don't, you know,
(06:29):
And I think Mike McDonald was like, Oh, you're gonna
give me whether they give him a second round or
something like this.
Speaker 3 (06:33):
Essentially, it's what joh Steider said, what happened today, Kay,
They wanted to resign Geno Smith, and when Gino Smith's
camp didn't come back with a trade request, they had
already kind of had a plan B in case or
didn't come back with a contract counter to what their
offer was. Thirty five to forty million is what they
offered Gino Smith.
Speaker 4 (06:52):
They wanted more.
Speaker 3 (06:52):
You wanted to be a top ten paid quarterback in
the NFL. Johns Shatter says, Geno Smith's people didn't even
send a trade request back, so they felt good and
knowing that they could trade him to the Raiders because
of that relationship and how much Gino Smith loves Pete Carroll.
So you're absolutely spot on with that. But again, this
isn't about the Seahawks. We're talking about the Seahawks because
(07:15):
DeMarcus Lawrence feels that they have a much better chance
at winning a Super Bowl than the Dallas Cowboys do.
And I think our point is right now, we don't
even know if the Seahawks are a top team in
the NFC at this point where people don't know if
they're building or tearing it down. Yet de Marcus Lawrence
joins them in free agency and sees them as a
much more viable option than the Dallas Cowboys. So it's
(07:35):
not you ripping on Jerry Jones and the lack of
moves that they made, or me ripping on Jerry Jones.
It's the fact that you now have a player who
spent his entire career in Dallas does an interview saying
I know for sure I'm not going to win.
Speaker 4 (07:48):
A Super Bowl. There. Micah Parsons has responded to this.
Speaker 3 (07:51):
Video clip and quote tweeted quote xt whatever you want
to say, says this is what rejection and end look like.
This is some clown bleep DeMarcus Lawrence. Within the last
thirty minutes has responded, saying, calling me a clown won't
change the fact that I told you the truth. Maybe
if you spent less time tweeting and more time winning,
(08:14):
I would have. That's the first time I heard that
it is on. It is, it is on. So now
we've got the Michael Parsons tweeting, nothing about his podcast
or anything yet, but that could come. So DeMarcus Lawrence
is saying that Michaeh. Parsons isn't focused. So now, if
you're DeMarcus Lawrence, who has been there so long, maybe
(08:34):
you're in essence saying that Jerry Jones and the regime
that was there let stuff fly that shouldn't have.
Speaker 4 (08:41):
They shouldn't have let fly.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
There are so many underlying issues, and I know I'm
gonna come out of left field with this, and I'm
sorry I'm gonna make a food reference, but I've realized
who the Dallas Cowboys are, and the Dallas Cowboys.
Speaker 5 (08:55):
Are that you have to eat out of the garbage
because you're broken to do it at all.
Speaker 3 (08:59):
No o oh, the Dallas Cowboys are Pizza Hut. Pizza
Hut used to be the apple of anyone my age's
I I'm late forties. If you're in your forties, going
to Pizza Hut when you were a kid, absolute bliss.
The pizza was magnificent, The atmosphere eron Torres was magnificent.
(09:22):
It was the place to be. It was also expensive
as heck, like the Pizza Hut. It was like twenty
bucks a pizza back then. This is thirty years ago.
This is thirty five years ago, long long time ago.
But it was so good. You would go to the
Pizza Hut because delivery wasn't really available, at least in
my hometown, so you had sit down pizza huts. Those
(09:44):
have now all gone away. Pizza Hut also has kind
of changed their recipe. Actually they completely have changed their recipe.
It does not taste the same anymore. But you know
what Pizza Hut does. They sell you on nostalgia. You
go to their website. You see the red cups that
you drink while sitting in the restaurant when you were
a kid. You see the lamps that were over your
(10:05):
table when you were eating as a kid, all trying
to tricky. You see the same tablecloth, the red and
white criss cross tablecloth. You see that on their website
now because guess what they want you to think that
this is the same Pizza Hut that it was thirty
and forty years ago. And what DeMarcus Lawrence is telling
you is that it's not the same Pizza Hut. It's
not the Dallas Cowboys, so much so that I spent
(10:27):
my entire career with the Dallas Cowboys and I couldn't
wait to get out And I'm going to a team
that didn't even make the playoffs last year, and I
think they have a better chance at making the Super
Bowl than what they've got going on in Dallas. That's
my food analogy on this DeMarcus Lawrence Dallas Cowboys situation.
Speaker 5 (10:44):
The only counter that I would have. I don't think
Pizza Hut's falling off nearly as much as the Dallas
Cowboys have. I also don't now I'm not being sarca well,
I guess I don't think that the audience. I don't
think that the consumer is fool by the Dallas Cowboys anymore.
I think this has been and you know, I've heard
(11:04):
this these numbers sited on on some of our other
radio shows here on Fox Sports Radio. But attendance has
been down at the training camp that we have not
far from where we are in what is it upstair Venture. Yeah,
Oxenn Art Area attendance is down. You know, I've seen
people cite the Athletic Poll where Cowboys fans don't believe
(11:25):
they're a Super Bowl contender, and it like, I'm not
even being sarcastic. I feel like the only person that
thinks the Cowboys are a contender right now is Jerry Jones,
no sarcas. I mean apparently Michael Parsons. But like you know,
I've used this analogy and not this analogy, but this
story on my show is my nephew is young.
Speaker 4 (11:42):
You know, he's younger than me.
Speaker 5 (11:43):
He's about, you know, twenty twenty two years old, lifelong
Cowboys fan. He's too young to have remembered the glory
days with Emmitt Smith and Troy Aikman and all that.
Speaker 3 (11:50):
So he's too young to remember any glory with any glory, no, no,
no doubt.
Speaker 4 (11:54):
And you know, but he's been glasses half full.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
You know.
Speaker 5 (11:57):
He used to come visit me here in California, We
went up to ox Start a few times, and he's
always been glasses that full. And I was in Connecticut
this fall. And this was even before the Dak injury,
and I was like.
Speaker 4 (12:09):
How you feeling, man? You know, you know, they got
off to a not great start.
Speaker 5 (12:12):
I seem to remember a blowout against the Saints early
in the season, a blowout against the Ravens that they
cut close and made it look respectable even though it wasn't.
Speaker 4 (12:22):
But I just remember this was before Dak got hurt.
Speaker 5 (12:24):
He's like, it's awful. He's like, I know, we have
no shot. Our quarterback is stuck with us long term.
Our quarterback isn't the answer. Ownership doesn't help. And it
was more of a Jerry thing than a Dak thing.
But the only reason I don't totally agree with your
analogy is because I don't think anyone like we know
what Pizza Hut is, and I don't think Pizza Hut
is trying to sell us that they are.
Speaker 4 (12:46):
Don't you know, don't disagree with the analogy.
Speaker 3 (12:48):
And I'm going to tell you why, because you weren't
old enough or you're too young to remember what Pizza
Hut meant to us. And that star on that helmet,
Aaron Torres is a symbol that so many grew up
and now Dallas is trying to regurgitate the same thing
that Pizza does Pizza Hut does with their awful pizza.
It is, it is, It is so disappointing. We remember
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the glory days. I even asked Debrie, who I think
is younger than you, and she said, yeah, she's never
been a fan of Pizza Hut.
Speaker 4 (13:18):
You probably have never been. I don't remember it being
like that was. It was the cats meow.
Speaker 3 (13:25):
I am telling you of pizza places because there weren't
eighty seven chains either, But Pizza Hut was was what
it was. And now what Pizza Hut tries to tell
you is remember all this stuff that's old, completely ignoring
the fact that their ingredients just aren't good anymore. And
they take stuff and they try to redo it over
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and over again. And I feel that's the cowboys. Their
ingredients aren't good. They've got like three good players. They've
got a good thing, crust, pepperoni, that's it. That's all
that they've got. And they're trying to still sell us
on the lore of the star and everything that comes
with it when it hasn't been that way for thirty years.
Speaker 5 (14:02):
Yeah, that's fair, that's fair. The only thing. I just
I think they are trying to sell us. I just
don't think anybody is buying it. I just I know
Mark Michael Parsons has to say the company line, but
I just you know, it's just amazing to me, is that, like,
first of all, and I think these are conversations we're
gonna have throughout the summer into the fall.
Speaker 4 (14:21):
One.
Speaker 5 (14:21):
I just I think they might be legitimately the one
of the worst teams in the league. But I don't
ever remember a season going into a season where there
was just no reason to have excitement. Brian Schottenheimer was
not a candidate for any other head coaching job. On
top of all of the other things that got screwed
up that Jerry Jones has screwed up the last couple
of years, that coaching search was as big of an
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abomination as anything that I have ever seen in professional sports.
You frankly wait two to three years, probably too late,
to fire Mike McCarthy. Then the season tanks, then he
does just enough for you to consider keeping him, and
then you wait till after this the point I'm trying
to make, I just think that I don't think we
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can undersell how big of an abomination that search was,
if you want to call it a search, that coaching
higher and the residual effect of I just.
Speaker 4 (15:14):
I don't think the Cowboys are relevant going into twenty
twenty five. I just don't.
Speaker 3 (15:17):
I don't think. I don't think so either. But I
also think that people would take eight other spots before
they order pizza Hut. They would rather take local jeens.
Are you a Dominoes or Pizza Hut guy? Are you
you either?
Speaker 2 (15:29):
Not?
Speaker 5 (15:29):
Really?
Speaker 4 (15:29):
I would take pizza Hut.
Speaker 3 (15:30):
Can I ask her on, Shae? Are you a Dominoes
or you a Pizza Hut guy? If you had to
pick one, Shae.
Speaker 4 (15:38):
I love the pizza hut stuffed crust. So you're a
pizza hut.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (15:43):
Yeah, a pizza hut. All right.
Speaker 5 (15:44):
I remember when Manzi lost a bet with me and
had to buy a pizza Hut for the whole place. Sorry, Brady,
I mean to cut you out. I was just poking
Manzi because she likes that.
Speaker 4 (15:50):
Are you a pizza Hut person? I am an all
pizza person, don't I don't discriminate. Here's the deal.
Speaker 3 (15:56):
Yeah, Dominoes went and they said, here's garlic palm bites done. Yes,
here are cinnamon twists, like.
Speaker 4 (16:03):
Am I gonna buy a seven dollars? You know little
Caesars pizza.
Speaker 3 (16:06):
Hey, if it's nearby, sure, absolutely, I don't discriminate, but
they all mix in the same pizza. Just takes the
same stuff and tries to make it all over again.
Like you've got other other teams, other brands are passing
them by because they're just sitting there living in the
past like the Dallas Cowboys are. And it took DeMarcus
Lawrence going to Seattle again to a non Super Bowl contender,
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to basically say what everybody else was saying. No former
Cowboys were saying this. No one was saying this. But
as you said, you feel that everybody believes that the
Cowboys are a joke. I agree. I think that everybody does,
except the Dallas Cowboys. But now you have a former
player who spent his entire career there who's going out
and saying, yeah, you're not gonna win a Super Bowl
in Dallas, And the place that he's going isn't even
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on your radar. Of teams in the NFC that have
a chance to make the playoffs or maybe go to
the Super Bowl, I think that's even more of an
indictment on the Dallas Cowboys than it is on DeMarcus
Lawrence's new team of the Seattle Seahawks.
Speaker 5 (17:01):
Seahawks not in Tours's Top three Super Bowl I don't
want to spoil all of our July and August content.
By the way, Bri, I completely cut you off. Are
you a Pizza Hut person or no, I'm so rude.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
I'm neither.
Speaker 4 (17:12):
I love roundtable pizza.
Speaker 3 (17:13):
There you go see round tables, just the round tables
the Eagles and Dominoes. Are the forty nine ers or
the Lions or just all these other teams that are
taking over them.
Speaker 4 (17:23):
It's just there.
Speaker 3 (17:23):
There was a point when Pizza Hut was what it
was and just like the Dallas Cowboys were something, and
it is no more. Man the Marcus Lawrence though the
shot at Micah Parsons personally at the end, tweeting too much, I.
Speaker 5 (17:40):
Will say in the Jersey swap era, I love when
guys actually go at each other.
Speaker 4 (17:45):
And that was that was pretty Yeah, that was magnificent.
All right.
Speaker 3 (17:47):
He's Aaron Torres, I'm Dan Byer. We are in for
Jason Smith and Mike Harmon. Doing a little nighttime work.
You're more used to the evening than I am, so
this is this is fun.
Speaker 4 (17:57):
I'm excited.
Speaker 5 (17:57):
I would say during the week, I get up at
about five thirty every day, so I'm not totally used
the evenings.
Speaker 3 (18:02):
But yes, you can hear me when you're here at work.
Oh yeah, yeah, no doubt, Yes, absolutely fine. Aaron at
Aaron Underscore, Torres Monci Milaanos is at the news desk tonight,
so keep us up to date on what's happening in
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Speaker 4 (18:18):
Uh.
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changes the entire face of the upcoming NCAA tournament Aaron
and I discussed next here on Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
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Speaker 4 (18:50):
The hoops. Just keep on comment and comment and coming.
Speaker 3 (18:53):
Yes, we've got more games Utah State and UNLV just
underway in Las Vegas.
Speaker 5 (18:58):
I'm sad though we had the Force Green's going for
the first two hours, we're down to three now.
Speaker 4 (19:03):
Said is that it wet? Nothing else live? Anything else? Oh,
we got something at ESPNU bre Yeah, there's gotta be
some of Big West going on, but.
Speaker 5 (19:13):
I don't know if it's on TV though tomorrow I
think Big West moves to the to the U as
the kids used to see.
Speaker 3 (19:18):
You're not likely to see Cooper flag on TV tomorrow
because he's not likely going to play for Duke in
the AMIST.
Speaker 5 (19:26):
I guess it just went final. I have East Carolina
UTSA showing as still being live, but it's final and
now we got a Stanford replay.
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the near future from sixty eight to seventy six schools,
Aaron Torres, and I will get to that in a second.
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I've I were you in with me when I complained
about the TVs at a local establishment about two weeks ago.
Speaker 4 (20:04):
Yes, I was with you.
Speaker 3 (20:05):
Yes, I tonight went and grabbed devite to eat prior
to the show. You did not choose to join us,
Aaron Torres. But Bree came over for a delicious glass
of water and a few cheese kurts and a couple
of boneous wings.
Speaker 4 (20:21):
Right, Brie, that's what you got. Love cheese Kurts.
Speaker 3 (20:24):
Now, big fan you should be because they are delicious.
As we said at this establishment. And again, my rule
is every sports bar or place that prides itself on
having twenty TVs in should hire someone solely responsible for
making sure relevant games and events are happening on those TVs.
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There is a restaurant in southern California that is a
local chain, not a national chain, Pizza Hut. Oh no,
We're going to ease off Pizza Hut for a little while.
It is a local chain that I know does not
have any packages. You know why because the only channels
they have on are ESPN, ESPN two, Fox, Sports One
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and the Dodger slash Lakers Spectrum Channel. Sure, they have cable,
that's what I have. They have cable, so they have
twenty TVs around, but they're all showing the same things.
And I just a'm like, hey, if you're going to
call yourself a sports bar, you step up your game.
You can have cable, and you have to get a
satellite as well. You got to provide everything for everyone.
Speaker 4 (21:32):
It's a chain, you said in southern California. It's a
Southern California chain.
Speaker 3 (21:36):
It's got to be Rocos then no, or at Barney No,
it's there's initials. I don't want to out them, but
it's a GGI Friday No, And I would never throw
shade at them. I love TGI Fridays at This is
the point being the established. Yea, I was at tonight,
the establishment that I was at tonight had the Lakers
Bucks came on on the big screen.
Speaker 4 (21:55):
That's totally fine.
Speaker 3 (21:56):
We're in southern California, we're in LA, We're in the
San Fernando Valley.
Speaker 4 (22:00):
I get it. It was great for me. The Bucks were
playing Bucks win the game. Awesome. They had MLB Network,
ESPN was showing the Big twelve. Cool.
Speaker 3 (22:10):
They had soccer on a TV. They had the Golf
Channel and a replay of the Players Championship which had
been over for a couple of hours because it was
called for darkness NBA TV, which why is NBA TV
on when you have your NBA game that you're watching
right correct, NFL Network, nothing's going on, but probably they
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played from one. No, they did have CBS Sports Net
and then Trivia, so at the time Aaron Torres, two
college basketball games were being aired. During this time, it
was whatever it was on CBS, which, by the way,
CBS Sports Net. The two TVs that were on were
so far away from me. I don't even know which
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game it was on. It may have been like Nevada playing,
And then the Big twelve Baylor Texas Tech game was
on ESPN. And that's that's unacceptable. If you're running a
sports bar, you need to have people understand that the
atmosphere is all of the games, and replaying highlights from
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the Golf channel, as much as I love golf from
the Players Championship that ended an hour and a half ago,
is not good for your atmosphere. That's my problem.
Speaker 5 (23:21):
So you mentioned that that I didn't come. I was invited,
but by the time I got you know, the invite. No, no, no,
not your fault. By the time I got the invite,
I wasn't ready to cut it. I wasn't going to
get there in time. Let me just tell you. If
I had shown up, I would have thrown a fit
like a six year old, like you left your child
at home to focus on work. If I had gotten
there and there was one and a half TVs on
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college basketball, I would have freaked out like a child.
Speaker 4 (23:48):
Yeah, that was It was so odd.
Speaker 5 (23:50):
No, it's so unacceptable. And you know, listen a little,
a little deep dark secret about me. I do one
day hope to own a sports bar. And the whole
point of owning a sports bar. Working in a sports
bar is obviously the sports right. And it's like the
the atmosphere on a big sports day.
Speaker 4 (24:10):
It doesn't matter what it is we talked to yesterday.
Speaker 5 (24:12):
It could be the opening day of Major League Baseball,
could be the opening Sunday of the NFL. It could
be Super Bowl Sunday when every TV is on the
same TV. But when we have these special sports days,
you can't miss, you know, it's like It's like, you
can't show up and shoot one for ten in the
biggest game of the season. This is one of the
biggest games of the season. Today, I don't need Bucks Lakers.
Speaker 3 (24:33):
From six hours ago, exactly exactly, even though that game
was going on. And I get it while it was there,
But yeah, NFL network, what's the point even if they're
holding a airing a press conference, you can't hear it
because the sound from the Bucks Lakers game is going on.
So what's the point of seeing someone talking when you
can't hear what they're saying anyway, And this just happens
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time and time and time again. You need a designated
person to know these games. And in fact, every commercial
break tonight, Aaron Torrez has been going to our executive
for three ye saying, Okay, Bree, we now need this
game on this TV. We now need that game. This
game has ended. It's okay, let's put it's what tonight
is for.
Speaker 5 (25:14):
No, and I would say this there is there needs
to be, like you said, a designated person, you know how,
like every sports talk radio host is like, there needs
to be a sports zar for there needs to be
the sports zar at the bar because there is nothing
more annoying as a consumer. Like the other night I
went out to dinner and the bar had spring training.
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This was like seven o'clock at night, spring training Dodgers
baseball that clearly ended at two pm in the afternoon.
And and by the way, it actually happened to be
the night that it was, the Lakers Nicks game was on.
Now I will defend this wasn't a sports bar, but
there was a TV with the express purpose of putting
sports on. And I will say, especially in La, no
excuse for not having a big Lakers Thursday night CNT game.
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But it's like, what are we doing? I mean, what
kind of society or would they say what do we
what separates us from the animals or something? I don't know.
We need something we accepted. Just get it, yeah, just
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NC DOUABLEA Tournament could be changing in ways that many
people are not happy about. Conversations this year have been
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about expanding the field, possibly to seventy two, possibly to
seventy six. And it sure seems like seventy six is
the number. Doesn't seem like seventy two is on the
table anymore. But this is a decision, Aaron.
Speaker 3 (26:53):
That could be coming in the next couple of weeks
that we could see expansion to the NC DOUBLEA Tournament.
Where are you on expanding from the field of sixty
eight to seventy six.
Speaker 5 (27:05):
I have the most generic, boring response to it. I'll
try to be quick. I don't think it's the end
of the world, but I don't love it. And the
reason I don't love it is not the reason that
you think. The reason I don't love it is because,
as we've learned in the.
Speaker 4 (27:21):
College football Playoff, the.
Speaker 5 (27:23):
Second that you kind of bend to the powers that
be and we know why we're doing it, we're doing
it all for money, for a bunch of rich dudes
and suits that we're never going to meet. The second
that you do it, they don't stop. Like if there
was some something written in stone that we will go
to seventy six. But it stays seventy six in perpetuity,
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then that's fine. But Dan Byer, we just had our
first twelve team college football playoff, and before it was
even done, it was understood that we were going to fourteen,
and so, yes, seventy six is, but how soon until
it gets to ninety six and we're starting the tournament
on Tuesday in full and it kills that first Thursday,
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that first full weekend of the tournament, which is in
your opinion, the best best day, best two days in sports.
In my opinion, it's Day three and Day four behind
this Thursday and this Friday. It is one of the
great sports moments on the calendar. And I'm just telling
you we open the door for expansion. The powers that
be aren't stopping at seventy sex.
Speaker 3 (28:28):
You're feeling that this is just a step closer to
the inevitable, which would be what everybody would be against, say,
ninety six schools. Right, That's that's essentially what you're saying.
So the longer that we stay at sixty eight means
the further we're away from ninety six. And if we
move to seventy six, that means and we're closer to
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ninety six and ruining what we've got.
Speaker 5 (28:50):
Yes, I don't believe that nobody, nobody likes making less
money even entire time when it's maybe for the best,
and I think it's for the best of the sport
that we don't go beyond sixty eight. By the way,
this is another conversation that, you know, for us to
have at some point in the future. I think we're
getting dangerously close to too much expansion in college football
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that it's going to devalue the regular season. I know
people don't think it's possible, but I think we're getting
dangerously close. And I think, you know, I'll just be quick.
I know, I'm Rambley. Look at how awful the bubble
is this year and think about adding eight more teams
on top of the mediocrity that we're already letting in.
Speaker 4 (29:32):
I look at the bubble as it is what it is.
Speaker 3 (29:37):
In the fact of I don't know if teams can
really or if fans can really separate what the difference
between a Boise State team is an Indiana team, you're
an Ohio State team. They're all just bubble teams to
people anyway, when we are watching today and Aaron I
would say that we are in probably the minority of
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people who have an interest in saying, oh, look, Oklahoma
right now is giving Kentucky all they can handle. That
could affect the bubble. Look, Indiana loses to Oregon, what's
that going to do to the Hoosiers. I'm not sure
the vast majority of people are looking at that. What
I do think people would look at is guess what
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Indiana Oklahoma Tuesday in Dayton or in some other site.
Maybe they'll end up watching that game. In that essence,
I don't I am actually not for expansion. I'm closer
to where you are. I'm good with it. I don't
think that what it will do, it will not. Listen,
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sixty five didn't do it, and sixty eight didn't do it.
It didn't ruin the integrity of the bracket. And I
know it's a common theme, but seventy six isn't going
to do it either.
Speaker 4 (30:56):
It's not.
Speaker 3 (30:57):
No, you're right, And honestly, if there are games on
two Tuesday, and there are early games on Tuesday, and
if those games are maybe they'll keep the better teams
that night as you're filling out your bracket, maybe you
don't put it into Wednesday night until those teams have
already moved on to the full bracket.
Speaker 4 (31:12):
Anyway, I just don't think you're going to.
Speaker 3 (31:14):
See an uproar or a change in brackets just by
adding those four games. And again those four games. When
we're watching the first four in Dayton right now, we
don't really pay a lot of attention to the sixteen
seed matchup, but we do to the two twelve seeds
that are playing, or the two eleven seeds, and guess what,
when they actually get into the bracket, maybe we don't
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care enough about them at that point to follow them
unless they make a run like VCU or make a
run like UCLA, and then it becomes more of a story.
But I do think for that night, those two teams
and those two brands do put on a show. And
if you can add eight more of those teams, the
bubble expands to the further level. And that's where I'm
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all also saying, where I'm looking at a bracketology sheet
right now that says the next four out are Dayton,
UC Irvine, Wake Forest in Villanova, and two of those
fours are in major college you know, major college conferences.
Right now, Villanova is a two time national champ. I
know it's not the same, but there's that brand name
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with it. So the bubble is always going to fluctuate
with different teams every year, and it's going to get bigger.
I don't see a point where it's going to be
affected because I don't think we care about it as
much right now. We've seen heck, NC State went on
their run last year and winning the tournament end up
going to the Final four. I don't think it lessens
the bracket at all. I think you can only enhance
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Tuesday and Wednesday, which I think are mediocre days in
the NCAA tournament. And that's why I'm all for it. It
would allow another site to hold games because then teams
wouldn't have to travel maybe as much. If you were
to able to put a site out west or have
a later night game, that would allow a team to
be put into, say a site you can put games
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in Las Vegas on that Tuesday night after the late
game in Dayton, you go off to Las Vegas and
watch another game. I think all of that would be fine.
I don't think people would matter or mind it at all,
and it wouldn't ruin your bracket.
Speaker 4 (33:12):
That's why I'm yes.
Speaker 5 (33:14):
And that's where like again, and I think I said
this to lead the segment is like, it's not that
I believe that the whole event will be ruined by
going to sixty it's going to seventy six teams. That's
not what I'm saying. All I am saying is that
you're getting You're getting to your point. The term you
used is the integrity of the bracket. And I think
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once you get to seventy six, the next step is
the step that kind of screws up everything that makes
the NCAA Tournament the NCAA tournament.
Speaker 4 (33:45):
And I think we would get there. I do.
Speaker 5 (33:47):
I don't think that when you open the door, when
you and by the way, see you remember this because
you're a diehard just sports fan. They tried to do
this about what fifteen years ago? Do you remember they
tried to go to ninety six and the public very
publicly shouted it down and was just like that is
not acceptable, and they didn't do it. And I think
that's how we got to sixty eight. But anyway, the
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point I'm trying to make is that that's my concern.
It's not you know, what do they say is not
the step, but it's a step after, and that's my concern.
Speaker 4 (34:15):
I don't got no, no, I'm sorry. I thought you
were done. Go ahead and finish your point. Why did
they really get to a point? So that that's on me?
Shame on me. It's it's twelve seventeen Eastern.
Speaker 3 (34:24):
And the thing that I was gonna say was the
reason they went to sixty five is because it was
the splitting up of the Whack. Yes, and it went
to the Mountain West. And what they said, and again
this tells you all you need to know. The nc
double A and the powers at b are that are
running the NCAA tournament decided we are not giving up
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an at large bid to allow for this separation. So
think about it. If you have a conference champion from
at that time, the Whack, which was like a sixteen
school league, and that splits off into the Mountain West Conference,
you now have an additional conference that wants an automatic bid.
Well instead of taking one of the at large bids
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away from the schools, the NCAA said no, no, no, no, no, no,
you're not going to do that, We'll just expand the
tournament and make it sixty five games and make these
two sixteen seeds play two days before they're supposed to
play their first round game. That's that's the length that
they went to keep their number of schools in. And
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what Erin is talking about is we're talking about at
large berths expanding. So if they're going to that length
to not decrease it by one by one spot to
keep it from sixty four, instead they go they're making
two schools play an entirely extra game in a city
that normally isn't hosting first round games except maybe every
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five years or so. Dating they are first round and
second round games a dayton. They went to that length
to protect the number of at large bids. That's what
Aaron is worried about, is if you're going to go
to seventy six, which then provides eight more at large
bids because there wouldn't be automatic bids coming from other conferences,
how far do you go and how quickly.
Speaker 4 (36:10):
Does it go?
Speaker 3 (36:10):
Where you now want another twenty more at large bids
to go to ninety six.
Speaker 5 (36:13):
And I'll be quick on this because I know we
gotta get to it. But the sentiment that I have,
is the sentiment that everybody has, is if you were
going to use the additional bids for you mentioned the
teams that are on the fringes of the bubble, a
team like U see Irvine that let's be real, they
haven't played the toughest schedule, but they are in their
conference tournament at twenty seven and five overall. If you're
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going to add that team, that's fine, but realistically, that
team is probably not getting in over a Wake Forest,
over a seventeen and fifteen Ohio State team, And that's
where the I think that's where, among other things, the
issues come in, is that it's going to be.
Speaker 4 (36:51):
More power conference schools.
Speaker 5 (36:52):
By the way, just in this year specifically, we're looking
at a minimum of thirteen SEC teams, probably nine from
the Big Ten, eight from the Big twelve, and it's like,
so we're gonna add even more to that from the
power conferences because that's where those bids are going to
come from.
Speaker 4 (37:04):
He's erin Torres. I'm Dan Byer.
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