April 2, 2025 • 41 mins
Mike Harmon and Aaron Torres (in for Jason) react to Nikola Jokic registering the third 60-point triple double in NBA history. And Ja Morant makes a gun gesture towards the Golden State bench after the Grizzlies’ loss to the Warriors!
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Speaker 3 (00:29):
Final hour of the program. Welcome back in the Jason
Smith Show with Me, Mike Carman. No Jason tonight out ill.
Maybe it's the Mets loss to the Marlins that toppled him.
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Speaker 4 (00:55):
The way tire.
Speaker 3 (00:56):
Buying should be fifty eight points for Nicole and Y'll
get you in a very wild double overtime game. He's
up to sixty per our. Steve de Seger one thirty two,
one thirty one two twenty left in double overtime.
Speaker 4 (01:14):
Steph had what fifty two?
Speaker 3 (01:17):
Yeah, twelve for twenty from three point range. Game Yo
gets now up to sixty two after putting back his
own miss time out on the court. Just absolutely insane
before we hit the break, Actually it was a block
shot that he was able to get back in his possession,
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but we it looked like Minnesota was going to try
to just close it out. Instead, we get extra free basket.
Speaker 5 (01:50):
Sixty two point. I don't care if it's a double overtime,
triple overtime. Sixty two is a bucket. And oh, that's unbelievable.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
An insane game. And you can even see it all
the bench players wide eyed watching this come down to
the wire. I mean, just an absolutely fantastic game. We
watched the Dodgers finish off the Braves three to one earlier.
Just insane level of scoring in Major League Baseball. That's
the low scoring game. On the other extreme, we've seen
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a lot of eight ten run kind of barrages along
the way. So keeping an eye on this one as
it tries to limp towards the finish line. Here, guy's
tongues hanging out, tripping over them as they go up
and down the court. But NFL news from earlier today
the rules assessment and votes. Now they've tabled the Tush
(02:45):
push for now. That'll be revisited at a later date Aaron.
They say sixteen teams voted in favor of the banishment
of the play that the Eagles have run with such
operational efficiency that folks scream unfair. They keep trying to
ferret out more details and information to prove that it's
(03:06):
unsafe to this point not have been able to do
so at any level. That it's just a all right,
it doesn't look like a football play, is what keeps
coming back to, which I chuckle, going, well, okay, now downfield,
and is something we talk with Jason Locking.
Speaker 4 (03:22):
For about a little bit yesterday.
Speaker 3 (03:24):
It's like, if you're downfield and you get caught up
with the defender, no longer can an offensive lineman come
or another receiver behind you or on a flank or screen?
Should you be allowed to have extra blockers out and
pushing you along in those like there's all these other
circumstances whereby that comes through. And Goodell had to address
that a bit, saying, yeah, it would be wise. I
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guess if we go down this road to eliminate all
of that. But something that did come to pass is
the use of the Hawkeye technology to where the chain
gang becomes a secondary source of information in terms of
setting things up, and that will rely on technology. And
it's great, right whenever we have technology to advance the
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specificity and accuracy of such things, I think.
Speaker 4 (04:13):
We should use it.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
Right where we have replay technology, yes, it should at
all costs be as efficient and quickly run as possible
that we get don't interrupt the flow of games. And
I know that's been one of the concerns in the
NCAA tournament, sure on both sides. And something when we
go to the replay assistance that it doesn't slow down
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the operational efficiency of the game, any of the momentum,
whether you believe in momentum or not that, but just
game flow. Right when like we keep going back to
the table for out of bounds plays at all that
it's done efficiently. Likewise for the NFL, same idea, but
now you go to the Hawkeye technology, it doesn't stop
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where the ball is spotted. It doesn't help in that,
and that's where the problem.
Speaker 4 (05:05):
Okay, then what does it do that comes?
Speaker 3 (05:07):
Well, it's the first down, okay, right, and so now
it as long as you're spotting it properly and you
get some more specificity there, then I guess there's there's gains.
But otherwise, you know, we're still only getting part of
the equation solved in this, but every little bit towards
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progress and the specificity I guess is a work in progress.
But for the chain gang, they now become a secondary feature.
Speaker 4 (05:39):
As opposed to our age old argument of are they
on point?
Speaker 5 (05:45):
Yeah, I mean this is something I mean, I've been
arguing for years, and it's not like my take is
all that interesting or unique. It's just that, you know,
we have literal technology for everything else, but we're relying
on the eyesight of a slightly overweight, sixty year old
guy to determine whether it's a first down or I
just it's never made sense to me, And I'm not
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somebody that feels like we have to always replace everything
with technology if it's available. I think robot umpires are weird.
I'm not into that, but this seems like kind of
a no brainer. It's just like I said, it's just
we have the technology the way we're doing. It is
inefficient at best, kind of just stupid at worse. For
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lack of a better term, I'm sorry that there's not
a more technical term for it, but I am I'm
glad we're here, or we're on the verge of being here,
because I think it's long overdue.
Speaker 3 (06:38):
Yeah, it still comes down to the you know, where
you spot the ball in a matter of inches, you
know that that's still going to be a gray area,
which is where a lot of the devil in the details.
Speaker 4 (06:51):
Is eno down versus the chain gang.
Speaker 3 (06:53):
So trying to figure out whether you get the the
accuracy there remains to be seen. One point thirty eight
all twenty point six seconds Russell Westbrook at the free
throw line.
Speaker 4 (07:04):
We got another hour.
Speaker 3 (07:05):
So if they want to go triple over to oh hey,
free freebase basketball. A man, look at that. Now you
wanted to go chase down Kobe's eighty one. But you
know that was one of the rules. That's that seems
like a no brainer, right if you at least get
get to that point. As much as the chain game
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has always been an entertaining part of the process, that
that goes to the wayside.
Speaker 4 (07:31):
You've had the tush push ban gets pushed out.
Speaker 3 (07:35):
We talked about the stats and incorporating the AAFC earlier,
which means ty shirts love of Cleveland gets recognized for
everything that Otto Graham did all those years ago. So
certainly positivity there the last of it. And this is
a curiosity for Roger Goodell that the NFL players want
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to play flag football in the Olympics.
Speaker 4 (08:01):
Ooh, that's an interesting one.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
So the league's players bringing up and he suggested in
his statements at the annual meeting quote, I've heard directly
from a lot of players who want to participate and
represent their country, whether it's the United States or the
country from which they've come. And so for twenty twenty eight,
it'll debut as an Olympic sport. So because of the
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NFL's support, that maybe some of the NFL players find
themselves onto rosters, which I think is an interesting wrinkle.
Speaker 5 (08:37):
Remember the guy he was like the five foot eight
quarterback that was like the flag football.
Speaker 4 (08:43):
Oh he became a wizard for a couple of weeks.
Speaker 5 (08:45):
Yeah yeah, and he remember his name yah on either
but he's like Mahomes got nothing on me.
Speaker 4 (08:50):
I'm like, yeah, I'm sure you're really good at your
little niche of football.
Speaker 5 (08:54):
But I think Mahomes is going to be just fine
if they put on flags instead of pads.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
So no, So this is great in theory, but it
always begets those great conversations about insurance clauses because I remember,
once upon a time you had the beach football game
at the Pro Bowl, No doubt for Robert Edwards of
the Patriots ripped his knee. The fact that that's still
top of mind, though, But you.
Speaker 4 (09:15):
Don't remember the flag football legend that was.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
I do not, come on, man, he didn't factor into
any trading card investments or fantasy football draft projections, so
he wouldn't be on top of my mind. But I
think these are always the fun parts of things because
I remember years ago I helped teach a course on
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baseball and American culture at Northwestern back when I was
working for the university. I helped a colleague. Then we
had a number of guests that came in and at
one point we found ourselves in a suite, an executive
suite there at Wrigley Field, and we met with members
of the front office, and they threw a contract in
(10:01):
front of us, and within about three paragraphs. I knew
exactly who it was. And the guy goes, how do
you know that. I'm like, well, there's this and this,
and because they tried to black out who the player's
name was. But the whole point of the exercise was,
here's how thick it is, and here's the list of
all the things that a player contractually is not allowed
to do. Sure, some of which we know the players
(10:24):
just kind of scoffed at, you know, the pickup basketball
and whatever else. But for the NFL, this gets even
more curious when you want to try to get involved
in something like the Olympics, when you get into the
full buy in of the team owners who have signed
you to these deals, maybe paid out a huge guaranteed
(10:44):
signing bonus and all of those things, and the guarantees
in your contracts.
Speaker 5 (10:50):
We have a final sign off on this double overtime
mishot at the buzzer wide open mishot by Minnesota.
Speaker 4 (10:56):
I don't mean to cut you off.
Speaker 3 (10:59):
I could tell that your attention was not no, no, no,
because I was trying to no.
Speaker 5 (11:04):
It's not that I'm not paying attention to what you're doing.
It was just it came down to the final seconds.
Let's see here, I think it was.
Speaker 4 (11:13):
Oh, they called a fowl.
Speaker 5 (11:14):
They called a foul because Payton Watson was the one
freaking out.
Speaker 4 (11:18):
So Westbrook lands. I think it was Peyton Watson. No, no,
it was Westbrook. You're right, you're right.
Speaker 3 (11:23):
So Westbrook going to defend, gets into the landing space
of the shooter as the clock winds to zero with
Denver up one. Yeah, Denver up one, Minnesota to the
line to try to finish the job. Yeah, I'm sure
this will go to the review assistant.
Speaker 4 (11:45):
There you go. We need hawkaye technology.
Speaker 3 (11:47):
We will go to the review assistanced.
Speaker 4 (11:51):
Was it a true followed through impediment? Oh, he missed
the layup.
Speaker 3 (11:57):
And Westbrook get missed a layup on the prior possession
would have put Denver up three. So yeah, the curiosity
there as we watch this one time out on the
court eight and awaiting.
Speaker 4 (12:12):
The adjudication of this.
Speaker 3 (12:14):
But for the NFL in this Olympic scenario, as much
as they may be excited by it, wherever you open
the door to potential chaos of injuries, and if the
baseball contracts have all of these things that are caveat
and out, that you can't do. And I know Steve
(12:36):
McMichael of the Bears used to go rattlesnake hunting in
his spare time when he was a member of the Bears. Yeah,
all those years ago, the big Texan. That was his
proud off season activity. Yeah. I get my cardio in
and I get my exercise in by doing those things.
Speaker 5 (12:52):
Well, isn't even like in baseball, like the WBC, the
World Baseball Classic, there's limitations on what they can do
for that exact reason.
Speaker 4 (12:58):
Sure, I could be mistaken the participation.
Speaker 3 (13:01):
Everything gets metered out, how many at bats, how many
innings you're going to pitch, all of those things that
you go through. So when you questioned why a guy
wasn't utilized in a particular situation, that it might have
been very much off of those obligations. So as we
wait for this to be adjudicated, we'll take the time out.
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Smith's recovery.
Speaker 3 (17:23):
At Albata Fresca, Timberwolves win nine double overtime thriller. As
we chronicled here on the program, the file from Russell
Westbrook as Nicol Alexander went up for the shot and
then a long review over at the desk by the
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officials before awarding him the free throws that ultimately meant
it long after the ball was up and off his hands,
and then it just becomes a where's are you in?
His landing zone is really where the rux of the
matter was, and as Harlan made the call immediately he
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is like, oh, you got to you gotta review it
because of where he landed. H tried to flash at
him late as he's finishing his follow through and was
able to get the call.
Speaker 5 (18:14):
Don't forget, he missed a layup that would have put
him up three, so even if he did follow him,
it would have only tied the game. All three free
throws now it was in akil, Alexander Walking said, so
he made the first two then purposely missed the second
one because there's only point one seconds left. But if
Westbrook makes the layup, then all of a sudden it's
(18:34):
a three point game. The foleo, I don't want to
say doesn't matter, but in a worst case scenario, it
forces triple overtime. As our great producer Justin Frossberg said,
that was the most extreme Russell Westbrook experience that you
can possibly have.
Speaker 3 (18:49):
And Akil Alexander Walker make make miss and T Wolves
with the rebound to close it out. But yeah, the
hitting that area out to the side of the rim,
which is what Westbrook had on what was a pretty
clean look at an easy layup that he's made a
million times before, set.
Speaker 4 (19:11):
Up that final thriller.
Speaker 3 (19:13):
So T Wolves one nine, the final One of the
things we're watching is you get ready for your flight
to San Antonio.
Speaker 4 (19:21):
As well.
Speaker 3 (19:21):
Has been all the cavetching and complaining by coaches and
well media.
Speaker 4 (19:27):
A lot about the transfer portal.
Speaker 3 (19:29):
Now. We had don a clip from Don McClain, who
was on with Petrosen Money on Friday when Arnie filled
in with me talking about where the price of admission
is if you're a rotational guy top eight going into
the portal, that we're talking upwards of a half a
million dollars is the asking price just to put some
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specificity to it, but one coach after another from those
that have walked away from it. Right the change of
the last few years, we saw a number of the
elder statesmen walk away. We've seen others Elder Statesman Bruce Pearl,
Calvin Sampson amongst them continuing to thrive. We see tom
Izzo into this last round and so many others, Uh, Patino,
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Caliberry And part of it, for me, Aaron, is not
just the celebration of the older coaches finding a way
in the new NC double A because let's face it,
as we talked about earlier in the show, a lot
of them were kind of doing this in the background
when it wasn't allowed.
Speaker 4 (20:29):
Well, now.
Speaker 3 (20:31):
Some of them get very clearly got popped in their organizations,
their their schools got popped for the recruiting in fractions. Sure,
now it's all above board, and you know everybody nice Sandbox,
I say it was a first mover or advantage in
the process. Oh right, CALIBERI and for some of these
other guys, like all they did was bring some of
the systems that were in place, and now they're just
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in plain view. So I was, I said, we're still
able to coach. It was just a matter of how
you got the players. And now we know how the
sausages made.
Speaker 5 (21:00):
I'll be really quick, is you know Kansas the last
two years has struggled and that's kind of been the joke.
Speaker 4 (21:06):
That's sort of a joke, but isn't really a joke.
Speaker 5 (21:09):
Is that now that everybody has nil, Bill self maybe
had some nil before everybody else did, and maybe that's
part of the reason that he's struggling. I think it's
more a little bit more complicated than that. But these
are real conversations that are being had Mike as far
as why some of these guys are struggling. Why you know,
it's certainly a story on why some of them are
leaving the sport.
Speaker 4 (21:30):
But but yeah, it is a whole new world with
the nil and.
Speaker 5 (21:34):
Uh yeah, it's it's a completely different sport than it
was even two three years.
Speaker 3 (21:38):
Oh, we'd talked about Buzz Williams a little bit earlier,
named the new coach at Maryland. Quote, what I have
learned is the skill set that was required to be
a good coach ten years ago, very little of that
applies anymore. That's Williams said that he was excited in
this article on Yahoo Sports, and I just laughed at that.
Speaker 4 (21:56):
Can I jump in on that? So no, go ahead,
I'm sorry.
Speaker 3 (21:59):
I laugh at that because in the end, you still
have to coach them up, right, how you get them
to campus and retaining guys might be different, right, certainly
because now you've got to deal with your nil collectives.
That's some of what Willard was complaining about at Maryland
and funds being available and being able to reach into
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the coffers or get people activated.
Speaker 4 (22:23):
And we've seen that from a number of schools.
Speaker 3 (22:25):
But Buzz Williams saying that a lot of what it
takes to coach from ten years ago doesn't apply. I
called b yes on that, because you still have to
coach guys up once they're in the building. Now do
you have to deal with some of the ancillary stuff
and noise. But it was always there. Guys that were
unhappy in the program were always gonna be unhappy. Now
they might be a little unhappy based on the size
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of the check showing up or what's been promised for
the next year.
Speaker 4 (22:49):
I get that, but in season.
Speaker 3 (22:52):
You've always had to deal with the possibility of a
guy who wasn't getting enough PT potentially leaving like none
of that has changed. You might have to activate, you know,
more funds and do more fundraising and glad handing than
you did in the past, right because now there's actual
dollars being transacted. But in terms of your coaching, once
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you're in season, he's gonna have to coach him up,
like the ancillary stuff is always going to be there.
Speaker 5 (23:21):
Yeah, I just don't like the quote, and I'm trying
to find the full context of the quote because he
said it takes a new skill set to win, which
I do. I agree with your point that it's still
about x's and o's at the end of the day,
a todd golden Kelvin Sampson has learned how to coach
in this era while while players are making frankly more
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money than everybody but maybe the head coach. But my
counter to that would be I want to hear see
the full quote, because is Buzz Williams admitting that maybe
he doesn't have the skill set needed and if so,
is he basically acknowledging that he's about to steal money
from Maryland for the next four or five years. That's
what I'm kind of curious about.
Speaker 3 (24:02):
The context of this article as it stands out, and
again we've only got what is put out from the
Associated Press through Yahoo Sports leading up to the NCAA tournaments.
More than a dozen coaches in addition to Leonard Hamilton,
just expressed their concern about the future of their industry
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that they mostly still liked it, but it's taking adjustments
and that's where the Buzz william.
Speaker 4 (24:28):
Vocal command, which it does. But it's like anything any like.
Speaker 3 (24:34):
They always had the quote about the kids are the same,
the parents are different or whatever, like, there's always going
to be adjustments, like how people operate their jobs.
Speaker 4 (24:43):
I was just gonna say, work ethic everywhere.
Speaker 5 (24:45):
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Speaker 5 (24:51):
But that is how our industry is changing and so so,
first off, I agree with you one hundred percent. There
is still a baseline. Can you coach him up? Can
you get him to play hard? And that is Listen.
I can criticize a lot of things about Buzz Williams.
He did a good job with that specific team. Now
they weren't fun to watch this year. They called it basket,
They called it football on hardwood.
Speaker 3 (25:12):
Which is one hundred percent sure, right, I mean it
was the rock fight. Was the euphemism thrown out time
and again?
Speaker 4 (25:18):
Yes, and so that part so I agree with you
on that.
Speaker 5 (25:22):
I just and again I don't have the full quote
in front of me, but it is a changing skill set.
It is still a baseline of what can you do
between the white lines, as you just said, Mike.
Speaker 4 (25:33):
But I'm just curious does he think he has that
skill set?
Speaker 5 (25:37):
And if not, he shouldn't be taking this job and
he shouldn't be taking the mayor, he shouldn't have stayed
at Texas A and m you know, I keep people
keep asking me about is this guy gonna retire? Is
that guy going to retire? You know, Mark Few right
now had to Gonzaga fan ask me you think he's on?
I said, listen, all these guys should stay as long
as they want to stay. But you have to acknowledge
that this is the new world and that this is
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what it is going to be going for it. And
so if you're not comfortable with it, and your coach
k you're Roy Williams, your Tony Bennett, you' Jay wright
you're Nick Saban, the greatest ever do it in college football,
then step aside. But don't sit there and steal money
from your employer if you're not all the way in.
And so I hate to keep harping on one sentence
from a quote from an AP statement that sounds like
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it wasn't even from today. I thought it might have
been from today. But my whole thing with Buzz Williams
is if you're not all in on the new skill
set that it requires, then I don't know that you
should have been accepting a new job today.
Speaker 3 (26:32):
Well, but that's the part of it, right, is like
you can still believe you can coach, but recognize that
there are some obstacles that you're going to need to
decide whether you want in on, right, like coach k
and all these guys that dipped out and maybe some
of these coaches that are coaching this year two years
from now. It becomes overwhelming because as this continues to evolve.
Speaker 5 (26:51):
Right, Well, the irony is that Maryland apparently doesn't have
a lot of those things, right. I mean, that was
the big complaint about Kevin Willard that you brought up
with that you mentioned you.
Speaker 4 (26:59):
And Dan I were talking about the other day. Well,
but that's it, right.
Speaker 3 (27:02):
You have some of it, but you need more buy
in than just your small group, and part of it
was building the infrastructure to begin with and being willing
to do so.
Speaker 4 (27:12):
Right.
Speaker 3 (27:13):
I still have the firm belief that there was a
window whereby schools like Syracuse, Stanford, Northwestern, et cetera, based
on their alumni basis, might have had a first move
or advantage for kids that again, you're owing to the
academics and the standards from your schools, but you've got
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prominent people, and you don't have the size of the
alumni base of a Texas or in Ohio state, et cetera.
But you do have prominent people that for the sake
of activation for their basketball and football programs, you might
have been able to get into the pockets if you
decided you were going to go down that rabbit hole early.
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You can't possibly compete with the alumni basis of a
Texas of an Ohio state that churn out more graduates
than a year than you do in a decade, or
more like from a sheer volume standpoint. If everybody gets involved,
you're fighting that other battle, but you're going after a
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different subset of kids that if you were first to
the first over even a Notre Dame, perhaps when you're
talking about Stanford and schools of that ILK that maybe
in Northwestern or Syracuse, you're getting that student because you've
activated that. But they didn't, right, they waited to see
how things would play out, and for other schools bit
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by bit trying to build the activations and build those structures,
because it takes a lot of bodies, right, it's not
the coaching staff has to come in and shake hands
and kiss babies, but there's a lot of other folks
that have to administer the rest of that program to
make it successful. And for the elder coaches, more often
than not, we've seen guys just say I'm out coach
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K J. Wright and others, they just wanted no part
of it. For others. Again, and I don't think I'm
talking out of school by saying, hey, they'd already done.
Speaker 4 (29:11):
A lot of this leg work.
Speaker 3 (29:12):
Sure, you know under the table all those years ago,
where that transition isn't as hard now, you still have
to put the structures in place to comply with whatever
skeletal thing the NC double A is requiring. You to do,
because let's face it, they're in the last vestiges of
whatever power they can try to enforce on things. And
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now it just gets into a larger legal participation for
state federal rules as they get applied to this. But
for these older coaches, me and Tom Izzo calling the
transfer portal a urinal like, well, you either participated, you don't.
Speaker 5 (29:50):
That's what I'm talking about is if you're not, and
Izo maybe has figured out the balance, but I just.
Speaker 4 (29:57):
Yeah, it just goes back to what I said.
Speaker 5 (29:58):
If Buzz Williams is saying takes a new skill set,
I just hope he is willing to engage in that
skill set. Otherwise he's just about to steal money from
his employer for the next few years.
Speaker 3 (30:06):
Well, and that's it. In the old rule of it again,
it's no fun when the rabbit has the gun. When
coaches were able to dip after a year or two,
and Izzo's kind of an outlier, we talked about it
coming into this tournament, as you had going to the
Sweet sixteen nine coaches that had been.
Speaker 4 (30:22):
With their school three or few years.
Speaker 3 (30:25):
Willard's already dipped, right, He's done, and it moves on
to Villanova, and then you have the long just dating
marriages of guys like Izzo, Samson and several others right
that have been at a place for a decade plus.
So you know that dichotomy, and we'll watch how it
advances as we move forward the microwave society. But I
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want it now at Aaron Underscore Tours. Find me over
at Swollen Dome. As we continue, we'll go back into
the fun and exciting world of the NFL, because you
can't get through a day of NFL chatter without a
little bit.
Speaker 4 (31:00):
Of Jerry Jones in you.
Speaker 3 (31:01):
But first we got Steve Desager one final time for
a trip through everything in our sporting universe.
Speaker 4 (31:07):
What I want to lose?
Speaker 6 (31:08):
That late NBA game at Denver, crazy double overtime loss
for Denver at home to Minnesota, won forty to one
thirty nine. Nikola Jokic finished with sixty one points. When
I mentioned he had sixty, he had just made a layup,
and then we saw the layup, but it didn't count
twice did I.
Speaker 4 (31:23):
See third ever sixty point triple double?
Speaker 6 (31:27):
He did wind up with eleven rebounds, ten assists, so
you're right, it was a sixty point triple double, but
on two free throws with no time left in Minnesota wins. Anyway,
Golden State got fifty two points from Steph Curry in
a victory at Memphis one thirty four one twenty five,
despite thirty six points from Jamaran in such a what
was a close game. Warriors on free throws twenty eight
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for twenty eight and Draymond Green had a triple double.
Curry from three point range was twelve for twenty. He
had ten rebounds, eight assists and five steals. Orlandosent sen
and TOONEO to a fifth straight loss. New York sent
Philadelphia to a ninth straight defeat. Milwaukee had lost four
in a row, but shot sixty nine percent from the
floor and beat Phoenix won thirty three one twenty three.
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Janis Antennacumpo thirty seven points, eleven assists. Portland had lost
four straight but one at Atlanta. Chicago ended the four
game winning streak of Toronto one thirty seven, one point eighteen.
Kobe White of the Bulls twenty eight points. He was
named Eastern Conference Player of the Month. The West winner
Shay Gilgis Alexander of OKC, Ky Cunningham of the Pistons
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is doubtful for Wednesday with the Bruce CAF he could
miss a fifth straight game. Jalen Brown at Boston questionable
for tomorrow with a bad knee. Detroit's Isaiah Stewart was
suspended two games after the recent fight at Minnesota. The
College Basketball Crown New Tournament at Las Vegas started yesterday.
The four winners on FS one today usc Villanova, Cincinnati,
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and UCF which beat Oregon State's seventy six seventy five.
Fox TV will have the coverage this weekend, with the
final on Sunday at the man Nit semifinal wins for
UC Irvine and Chattanooga Maryland's new head coaches Buzz Williams
from Texas A and M. The finalists for the John
Wooden Award include Cooper Flag of Duke and Jenni Broom
of Auburn. The Men's Final four starts Saturday. Women's final
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four starts Friday. A reminder nascars on FS one again
the next couple of Sundays NHL. Among the ten games tonight,
Saint Louis won its tenth in a row and overtime
win against Detroit two to one. Montreal and overtime beat Florida.
Wins for Tampa Bay and Washington Columbus eight to four
over Nashville. In the NFL overtimes, we'll have both teams
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now with a chance for possession like the playoffs have,
but it'll still be a ten minute overtime period. In
the regular season, and after a kickoff's touchback this new rule,
the ball will now be spotted at the thirty five,
not the thirty, hoping for fewer kicks into the end
zone and more returns. They're still using the so called
dynamic kickoff format. The late MLB game went to the
(33:56):
Dodgers seven to zero after beating Chris Sale in the
Atlanta Braves three to one. One Sale allowed to go
ahead homer to Mookie Betts in the sixth Atlanta OH
and six, and they faced Dustin May, who went five
innings in his first major league starting about two years
for LA. First baseman Freddie Freeman was out again with
the bad ankle. Road wins for Detroit and the Cubs.
San Diego at six and oh beat Cleveland seven nothing.
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Angels won and eleven innings at Saint Louis. Arizona beat
the Yankees seven to five Henneo Suarez a grand slam,
top of the eighth, Tampa Bay shout out, Pittsburgh seven nothing.
The Pirates are one and five and they sent their closer,
David Bednard to triple A. Texas won one nothing at
Cincinnati on a complete game from Nathan Evalde, eight strikeouts,
no walks, just ninety nine pitches.
Speaker 4 (34:40):
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Speaker 3 (35:14):
Hey, welcome back in Finish it up Strong air Fox
Sports Radio Jason Smith Show with Me Mike Harmon. No
Jason Smith Tonight in theory he's back tomorrow, we'll see
what his health check ups. We get what whether his
voice is back, because it was failing towards the end
of last night. I think it's the sadness over the
start of many of the Mets is really what it
(35:36):
comes down to. A loss to the Marlins today, Aaron
Torres in hisstead. We've had a fast paced, action filled
four ours. What we had a McDonald's All American game.
We had an nit it was a blowout the USC
game that we got to watch.
Speaker 4 (35:52):
We had a Dodger win, some.
Speaker 3 (35:54):
Hockey, a thrilling double overtime game that I'm still trying
to figure out how we get to that point where
we're in the one sixties right then, Nicole Jokic sixty
point triple double, the Russell Westbrook miss layup, the fall
at the end, like all of that just absolute chaos
in what was a wild day in the NBA. Because
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we also had a Steph Curry fifty two point game
that we had to watch.
Speaker 5 (36:18):
Steph Curry fifty two points, it just doesn't mean as
much when when Jokic goes for sixty twelve and ten
or whatever it ended up being.
Speaker 3 (36:25):
Because the momentum started off the step fifty two point
game into the jamarant don't go there historyonics Indy violent
motion that he made well because that was part of
the NFL talks today. So it merged into stuff talking about,
you know, points of emphasis and the uptick in the
number of violent celebrations.
Speaker 4 (36:47):
Because you got to think of the children, Think of
the children, Aaron.
Speaker 5 (36:50):
Torres, you gotta think of the dummies, like John Moran's.
Speaker 4 (36:54):
For you who haven't seen it, there.
Speaker 5 (36:55):
Was a gun celebration, which I don't want to be
clutching pearls guy, but when you literally were suspended for gunplay,
I just I think it's in.
Speaker 4 (37:08):
Port taste well, and that's the bottom line to it.
Speaker 3 (37:10):
Right first defense, you're like, oh, we've seen enough like's
throat slash gestures used to be the norm, and a
lot of those things are just kind of like the Hey,
I've got my six shooters, look at me, I'm shooter
McGavin whatever else. Who's actually in the new PGA game.
I did not play him as an active character, I guess,
(37:31):
but he has the the gun motion and he's doing
that right in front of it. He's doing it towards
the bench and Buddy Heel does it back and then
he runs square into Steph Curry who looks at him
like he's insane, and Draymond Grave is like, Steph, did
you see that? And he does the motion. Damn so
no doubt. Adam Silver had his bat phone ringing. And
(37:52):
then he'll say, well, you know what, it can't mar
from a great performance from Nicole to Jokic.
Speaker 4 (37:57):
Maybe he does a little soft shoe dance. Try to
get you to do by the way the Lakers are
gonna play. I will and get back into all of that.
Speaker 3 (38:05):
But you know, it would be a day of NFL
fun without a little bit of Jerry Jones, because it
blew up a bit because he's in this standoff with
Micah Parsons. He starts talking about the contract. Hey, I'm
the one that's got to sign the check. Mike has
got to agree to it, and if I really want
to get something done, I'll always get it done. And
(38:26):
and part of it also, you know, just the the
idea of hey, I'm I'm Jerry Jones.
Speaker 4 (38:31):
This is the way it is.
Speaker 3 (38:32):
But he also kind of just dismissed the idea of, hey,
you've got other folks that are involved, you know, like
Michael Parsons agent, so saying it's not uncommon for me
to visit directly with players in this particular case, that's
the way I'm doing it.
Speaker 4 (38:46):
So MICHAEH.
Speaker 3 (38:47):
Parsons took to to social media and say, hey, I'm
not doing anything without my my agent, David Muliletta, who's
part of it. He's one of the best. He's negotiated
a ton of big deals. I hired expert for a reason.
There's no one I trust more when it comes to
negotiating contracts than David. No back doors in this contract
negotiation with a bunch of exclamation points and everything else
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mixed therein. But you know, for Jerry Jones also saying, look,
I got to get it right. Just getting it done,
and even if it's cheaper, that may not be the
way to go, which has been one of the criticisms
with his deals for CD LAMB, for Dak Prescott, et cetera,
is that he costs himself money by waiting, and Jerry
Jones saying, well, that's not really the problem. I'd rather
(39:32):
get it right, which I can't say that I disagree
with his way of doing it, even if it is
in the moment perhaps costing you a free agent or
two in the marketplace off of money you don't have
to spend.
Speaker 5 (39:44):
Yeah, I mean, I think, you know, it's just so
tough because Jerry just I don't know when he's saying
stuff just because there's a camera in front of his
face versus what he actually thinks and feels. But yeah,
I don't think he's actually negotiating anything with my without
representation presence.
Speaker 4 (40:03):
So Jerry's gonna Jerry.
Speaker 5 (40:06):
I I just at this point just feel bad for
Cowboys fans because Jerry's an all time you know whatever,
but he is just I don't know, there's it's just
they're they're beyond they're they're they're they're beyond a laughing stock.
Speaker 4 (40:22):
They're just forgettable.
Speaker 5 (40:24):
Like you talk about all the interesting stories in the NFL,
the Cowboys are at the bottom of that list, And
so you hear a story like this and it's just
like Jerry's gonna screw it up some way somehow, and
it's it's it's just speaks to this state.
Speaker 4 (40:37):
Of the Cowboys.
Speaker 3 (40:37):
Well, I think it just ties directly to a lot
of what we've been talking about. With college basketball. It's
like the business has changed. Sure right now, it's not
just Hey, the owner and maybe one or two close
people at the top take care of business. You have
to have the infrastructure of a bunch of football people
and contract people and cap management people that need to
(40:58):
get in the fray where Jerry Jones, like a lot
of these older coaches, they either don't want to or
they refuse to believe.
Speaker 4 (41:05):
That that's the case. Bengo, that last part's the key.
Speaker 3 (41:08):
Add Aaron underscore Torres follow him on his road to
San Antonio and the final four. For me, I'll be
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Buying should be fifty eight points for Nicole and Y'll
get you in a very wild double overtime game. He's
up to sixty per our. Steve de Seger one thirty two,
one thirty one two twenty left in double overtime.
Speaker 4 (01:14):
Steph had what fifty two?
Speaker 3 (01:17):
Yeah, twelve for twenty from three point range. Game Yo
gets now up to sixty two after putting back his
own miss time out on the court. Just absolutely insane
before we hit the break, Actually it was a block
shot that he was able to get back in his possession,
(01:40):
but we it looked like Minnesota was going to try
to just close it out. Instead, we get extra free basket.
Speaker 5 (01:50):
Sixty two point. I don't care if it's a double overtime,
triple overtime. Sixty two is a bucket. And oh, that's unbelievable.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
An insane game. And you can even see it all
the bench players wide eyed watching this come down to
the wire. I mean, just an absolutely fantastic game. We
watched the Dodgers finish off the Braves three to one earlier.
Just insane level of scoring in Major League Baseball. That's
the low scoring game. On the other extreme, we've seen
(02:21):
a lot of eight ten run kind of barrages along
the way. So keeping an eye on this one as
it tries to limp towards the finish line. Here, guy's
tongues hanging out, tripping over them as they go up
and down the court. But NFL news from earlier today
the rules assessment and votes. Now they've tabled the Tush
(02:45):
push for now. That'll be revisited at a later date Aaron.
They say sixteen teams voted in favor of the banishment
of the play that the Eagles have run with such
operational efficiency that folks scream unfair. They keep trying to
ferret out more details and information to prove that it's
(03:06):
unsafe to this point not have been able to do
so at any level. That it's just a all right,
it doesn't look like a football play, is what keeps
coming back to, which I chuckle, going, well, okay, now downfield,
and is something we talk with Jason Locking.
Speaker 4 (03:22):
For about a little bit yesterday.
Speaker 3 (03:24):
It's like, if you're downfield and you get caught up
with the defender, no longer can an offensive lineman come
or another receiver behind you or on a flank or screen?
Should you be allowed to have extra blockers out and
pushing you along in those like there's all these other
circumstances whereby that comes through. And Goodell had to address
that a bit, saying, yeah, it would be wise. I
(03:46):
guess if we go down this road to eliminate all
of that. But something that did come to pass is
the use of the Hawkeye technology to where the chain
gang becomes a secondary source of information in terms of
setting things up, and that will rely on technology. And
it's great, right whenever we have technology to advance the
(04:10):
specificity and accuracy of such things, I think.
Speaker 4 (04:13):
We should use it.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
Right where we have replay technology, yes, it should at
all costs be as efficient and quickly run as possible
that we get don't interrupt the flow of games. And
I know that's been one of the concerns in the
NCAA tournament, sure on both sides. And something when we
go to the replay assistance that it doesn't slow down
(04:36):
the operational efficiency of the game, any of the momentum,
whether you believe in momentum or not that, but just
game flow. Right when like we keep going back to
the table for out of bounds plays at all that
it's done efficiently. Likewise for the NFL, same idea, but
now you go to the Hawkeye technology, it doesn't stop
(05:00):
where the ball is spotted. It doesn't help in that,
and that's where the problem.
Speaker 4 (05:05):
Okay, then what does it do that comes?
Speaker 3 (05:07):
Well, it's the first down, okay, right, and so now
it as long as you're spotting it properly and you
get some more specificity there, then I guess there's there's gains.
But otherwise, you know, we're still only getting part of
the equation solved in this, but every little bit towards
(05:29):
progress and the specificity I guess is a work in progress.
But for the chain gang, they now become a secondary feature.
Speaker 4 (05:39):
As opposed to our age old argument of are they
on point?
Speaker 5 (05:45):
Yeah, I mean this is something I mean, I've been
arguing for years, and it's not like my take is
all that interesting or unique. It's just that, you know,
we have literal technology for everything else, but we're relying
on the eyesight of a slightly overweight, sixty year old
guy to determine whether it's a first down or I
just it's never made sense to me, And I'm not
(06:06):
somebody that feels like we have to always replace everything
with technology if it's available. I think robot umpires are weird.
I'm not into that, but this seems like kind of
a no brainer. It's just like I said, it's just
we have the technology the way we're doing. It is
inefficient at best, kind of just stupid at worse. For
(06:28):
lack of a better term, I'm sorry that there's not
a more technical term for it, but I am I'm
glad we're here, or we're on the verge of being here,
because I think it's long overdue.
Speaker 3 (06:38):
Yeah, it still comes down to the you know, where
you spot the ball in a matter of inches, you
know that that's still going to be a gray area,
which is where a lot of the devil in the details.
Speaker 4 (06:51):
Is eno down versus the chain gang.
Speaker 3 (06:53):
So trying to figure out whether you get the the
accuracy there remains to be seen. One point thirty eight
all twenty point six seconds Russell Westbrook at the free
throw line.
Speaker 4 (07:04):
We got another hour.
Speaker 3 (07:05):
So if they want to go triple over to oh hey,
free freebase basketball. A man, look at that. Now you
wanted to go chase down Kobe's eighty one. But you
know that was one of the rules. That's that seems
like a no brainer, right if you at least get
get to that point. As much as the chain game
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has always been an entertaining part of the process, that
that goes to the wayside.
Speaker 4 (07:31):
You've had the tush push ban gets pushed out.
Speaker 3 (07:35):
We talked about the stats and incorporating the AAFC earlier,
which means ty shirts love of Cleveland gets recognized for
everything that Otto Graham did all those years ago. So
certainly positivity there the last of it. And this is
a curiosity for Roger Goodell that the NFL players want
(07:57):
to play flag football in the Olympics.
Speaker 4 (08:01):
Ooh, that's an interesting one.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
So the league's players bringing up and he suggested in
his statements at the annual meeting quote, I've heard directly
from a lot of players who want to participate and
represent their country, whether it's the United States or the
country from which they've come. And so for twenty twenty eight,
it'll debut as an Olympic sport. So because of the
(08:26):
NFL's support, that maybe some of the NFL players find
themselves onto rosters, which I think is an interesting wrinkle.
Speaker 5 (08:37):
Remember the guy he was like the five foot eight
quarterback that was like the flag football.
Speaker 4 (08:43):
Oh he became a wizard for a couple of weeks.
Speaker 5 (08:45):
Yeah yeah, and he remember his name yah on either
but he's like Mahomes got nothing on me.
Speaker 4 (08:50):
I'm like, yeah, I'm sure you're really good at your
little niche of football.
Speaker 5 (08:54):
But I think Mahomes is going to be just fine
if they put on flags instead of pads.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
So no, So this is great in theory, but it
always begets those great conversations about insurance clauses because I remember,
once upon a time you had the beach football game
at the Pro Bowl, No doubt for Robert Edwards of
the Patriots ripped his knee. The fact that that's still
top of mind, though, But you.
Speaker 4 (09:15):
Don't remember the flag football legend that was.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
I do not, come on, man, he didn't factor into
any trading card investments or fantasy football draft projections, so
he wouldn't be on top of my mind. But I
think these are always the fun parts of things because
I remember years ago I helped teach a course on
(09:39):
baseball and American culture at Northwestern back when I was
working for the university. I helped a colleague. Then we
had a number of guests that came in and at
one point we found ourselves in a suite, an executive
suite there at Wrigley Field, and we met with members
of the front office, and they threw a contract in
(10:01):
front of us, and within about three paragraphs. I knew
exactly who it was. And the guy goes, how do
you know that. I'm like, well, there's this and this,
and because they tried to black out who the player's
name was. But the whole point of the exercise was,
here's how thick it is, and here's the list of
all the things that a player contractually is not allowed
to do. Sure, some of which we know the players
(10:24):
just kind of scoffed at, you know, the pickup basketball
and whatever else. But for the NFL, this gets even
more curious when you want to try to get involved
in something like the Olympics, when you get into the
full buy in of the team owners who have signed
you to these deals, maybe paid out a huge guaranteed
(10:44):
signing bonus and all of those things, and the guarantees
in your contracts.
Speaker 5 (10:50):
We have a final sign off on this double overtime
mishot at the buzzer wide open mishot by Minnesota.
Speaker 4 (10:56):
I don't mean to cut you off.
Speaker 3 (10:59):
I could tell that your attention was not no, no, no,
because I was trying to no.
Speaker 5 (11:04):
It's not that I'm not paying attention to what you're doing.
It was just it came down to the final seconds.
Let's see here, I think it was.
Speaker 4 (11:13):
Oh, they called a fowl.
Speaker 5 (11:14):
They called a foul because Payton Watson was the one
freaking out.
Speaker 4 (11:18):
So Westbrook lands. I think it was Peyton Watson. No, no,
it was Westbrook. You're right, you're right.
Speaker 3 (11:23):
So Westbrook going to defend, gets into the landing space
of the shooter as the clock winds to zero with
Denver up one. Yeah, Denver up one, Minnesota to the
line to try to finish the job. Yeah, I'm sure
this will go to the review assistant.
Speaker 4 (11:45):
There you go. We need hawkaye technology.
Speaker 3 (11:47):
We will go to the review assistanced.
Speaker 4 (11:51):
Was it a true followed through impediment? Oh, he missed
the layup.
Speaker 3 (11:57):
And Westbrook get missed a layup on the prior possession
would have put Denver up three. So yeah, the curiosity
there as we watch this one time out on the
court eight and awaiting.
Speaker 4 (12:12):
The adjudication of this.
Speaker 3 (12:14):
But for the NFL in this Olympic scenario, as much
as they may be excited by it, wherever you open
the door to potential chaos of injuries, and if the
baseball contracts have all of these things that are caveat
and out, that you can't do. And I know Steve
(12:36):
McMichael of the Bears used to go rattlesnake hunting in
his spare time when he was a member of the Bears. Yeah,
all those years ago, the big Texan. That was his
proud off season activity. Yeah. I get my cardio in
and I get my exercise in by doing those things.
Speaker 5 (12:52):
Well, isn't even like in baseball, like the WBC, the
World Baseball Classic, there's limitations on what they can do
for that exact reason.
Speaker 4 (12:58):
Sure, I could be mistaken the participation.
Speaker 3 (13:01):
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Smith's recovery.
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At Albata Fresca, Timberwolves win nine double overtime thriller. As
we chronicled here on the program, the file from Russell
Westbrook as Nicol Alexander went up for the shot and
then a long review over at the desk by the
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officials before awarding him the free throws that ultimately meant
it long after the ball was up and off his hands,
and then it just becomes a where's are you in?
His landing zone is really where the rux of the
matter was, and as Harlan made the call immediately he
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is like, oh, you got to you gotta review it
because of where he landed. H tried to flash at
him late as he's finishing his follow through and was
able to get the call.
Speaker 5 (18:14):
Don't forget, he missed a layup that would have put
him up three, so even if he did follow him,
it would have only tied the game. All three free
throws now it was in akil, Alexander Walking said, so
he made the first two then purposely missed the second
one because there's only point one seconds left. But if
Westbrook makes the layup, then all of a sudden it's
(18:34):
a three point game. The foleo, I don't want to
say doesn't matter, but in a worst case scenario, it
forces triple overtime. As our great producer Justin Frossberg said,
that was the most extreme Russell Westbrook experience that you
can possibly have.
Speaker 3 (18:49):
And Akil Alexander Walker make make miss and T Wolves
with the rebound to close it out. But yeah, the
hitting that area out to the side of the rim,
which is what Westbrook had on what was a pretty
clean look at an easy layup that he's made a
million times before, set.
Speaker 4 (19:11):
Up that final thriller.
Speaker 3 (19:13):
So T Wolves one nine, the final One of the
things we're watching is you get ready for your flight
to San Antonio.
Speaker 4 (19:21):
As well.
Speaker 3 (19:21):
Has been all the cavetching and complaining by coaches and
well media.
Speaker 4 (19:27):
A lot about the transfer portal.
Speaker 3 (19:29):
Now. We had don a clip from Don McClain, who
was on with Petrosen Money on Friday when Arnie filled
in with me talking about where the price of admission
is if you're a rotational guy top eight going into
the portal, that we're talking upwards of a half a
million dollars is the asking price just to put some
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specificity to it, but one coach after another from those
that have walked away from it. Right the change of
the last few years, we saw a number of the
elder statesmen walk away. We've seen others Elder Statesman Bruce Pearl,
Calvin Sampson amongst them continuing to thrive. We see tom
Izzo into this last round and so many others, Uh, Patino,
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Caliberry And part of it, for me, Aaron, is not
just the celebration of the older coaches finding a way
in the new NC double A because let's face it,
as we talked about earlier in the show, a lot
of them were kind of doing this in the background
when it wasn't allowed.
Speaker 4 (20:29):
Well, now.
Speaker 3 (20:31):
Some of them get very clearly got popped in their organizations,
their their schools got popped for the recruiting in fractions. Sure,
now it's all above board, and you know everybody nice Sandbox,
I say it was a first mover or advantage in
the process. Oh right, CALIBERI and for some of these
other guys, like all they did was bring some of
the systems that were in place, and now they're just
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in plain view. So I was, I said, we're still
able to coach. It was just a matter of how
you got the players. And now we know how the
sausages made.
Speaker 5 (21:00):
I'll be really quick, is you know Kansas the last
two years has struggled and that's kind of been the joke.
Speaker 4 (21:06):
That's sort of a joke, but isn't really a joke.
Speaker 5 (21:09):
Is that now that everybody has nil, Bill self maybe
had some nil before everybody else did, and maybe that's
part of the reason that he's struggling. I think it's
more a little bit more complicated than that. But these
are real conversations that are being had Mike as far
as why some of these guys are struggling. Why you know,
it's certainly a story on why some of them are
leaving the sport.
Speaker 4 (21:30):
But but yeah, it is a whole new world with
the nil and.
Speaker 5 (21:34):
Uh yeah, it's it's a completely different sport than it
was even two three years.
Speaker 3 (21:38):
Oh, we'd talked about Buzz Williams a little bit earlier,
named the new coach at Maryland. Quote, what I have
learned is the skill set that was required to be
a good coach ten years ago, very little of that
applies anymore. That's Williams said that he was excited in
this article on Yahoo Sports, and I just laughed at that.
Speaker 4 (21:56):
Can I jump in on that? So no, go ahead,
I'm sorry.
Speaker 3 (21:59):
I laugh at that because in the end, you still
have to coach them up, right, how you get them
to campus and retaining guys might be different, right, certainly
because now you've got to deal with your nil collectives.
That's some of what Willard was complaining about at Maryland
and funds being available and being able to reach into
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the coffers or get people activated.
Speaker 4 (22:23):
And we've seen that from a number of schools.
Speaker 3 (22:25):
But Buzz Williams saying that a lot of what it
takes to coach from ten years ago doesn't apply. I
called b yes on that, because you still have to
coach guys up once they're in the building. Now do
you have to deal with some of the ancillary stuff
and noise. But it was always there. Guys that were
unhappy in the program were always gonna be unhappy. Now
they might be a little unhappy based on the size
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of the check showing up or what's been promised for
the next year.
Speaker 4 (22:49):
I get that, but in season.
Speaker 3 (22:52):
You've always had to deal with the possibility of a
guy who wasn't getting enough PT potentially leaving like none
of that has changed. You might have to activate, you know,
more funds and do more fundraising and glad handing than
you did in the past, right because now there's actual
dollars being transacted. But in terms of your coaching, once
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you're in season, he's gonna have to coach him up,
like the ancillary stuff is always going to be there.
Speaker 5 (23:21):
Yeah, I just don't like the quote, and I'm trying
to find the full context of the quote because he
said it takes a new skill set to win, which
I do. I agree with your point that it's still
about x's and o's at the end of the day,
a todd golden Kelvin Sampson has learned how to coach
in this era while while players are making frankly more
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money than everybody but maybe the head coach. But my
counter to that would be I want to hear see
the full quote, because is Buzz Williams admitting that maybe
he doesn't have the skill set needed and if so,
is he basically acknowledging that he's about to steal money
from Maryland for the next four or five years. That's
what I'm kind of curious about.
Speaker 3 (24:02):
The context of this article as it stands out, and
again we've only got what is put out from the
Associated Press through Yahoo Sports leading up to the NCAA tournaments.
More than a dozen coaches in addition to Leonard Hamilton,
just expressed their concern about the future of their industry
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that they mostly still liked it, but it's taking adjustments
and that's where the Buzz william.
Speaker 4 (24:28):
Vocal command, which it does. But it's like anything any like.
Speaker 3 (24:34):
They always had the quote about the kids are the same,
the parents are different or whatever, like, there's always going
to be adjustments, like how people operate their jobs.
Speaker 4 (24:43):
I was just gonna say, work ethic everywhere.
Speaker 5 (24:45):
Two seconds ago, you're reading a promo to make sure
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Fox Sports a reready a YouTube page, which you should.
Speaker 5 (24:51):
But that is how our industry is changing and so so,
first off, I agree with you one hundred percent. There
is still a baseline. Can you coach him up? Can
you get him to play hard? And that is Listen.
I can criticize a lot of things about Buzz Williams.
He did a good job with that specific team. Now
they weren't fun to watch this year. They called it basket,
They called it football on hardwood.
Speaker 3 (25:12):
Which is one hundred percent sure, right, I mean it
was the rock fight. Was the euphemism thrown out time
and again?
Speaker 4 (25:18):
Yes, and so that part so I agree with you
on that.
Speaker 5 (25:22):
I just and again I don't have the full quote
in front of me, but it is a changing skill set.
It is still a baseline of what can you do
between the white lines, as you just said, Mike.
Speaker 4 (25:33):
But I'm just curious does he think he has that
skill set?
Speaker 5 (25:37):
And if not, he shouldn't be taking this job and
he shouldn't be taking the mayor, he shouldn't have stayed
at Texas A and m you know, I keep people
keep asking me about is this guy gonna retire? Is
that guy going to retire? You know, Mark Few right
now had to Gonzaga fan ask me you think he's on?
I said, listen, all these guys should stay as long
as they want to stay. But you have to acknowledge
that this is the new world and that this is
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what it is going to be going for it. And
so if you're not comfortable with it, and your coach
k you're Roy Williams, your Tony Bennett, you' Jay wright
you're Nick Saban, the greatest ever do it in college football,
then step aside. But don't sit there and steal money
from your employer if you're not all the way in.
And so I hate to keep harping on one sentence
from a quote from an AP statement that sounds like
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it wasn't even from today. I thought it might have
been from today. But my whole thing with Buzz Williams
is if you're not all in on the new skill
set that it requires, then I don't know that you
should have been accepting a new job today.
Speaker 3 (26:32):
Well, but that's the part of it, right, is like
you can still believe you can coach, but recognize that
there are some obstacles that you're going to need to
decide whether you want in on, right, like coach k
and all these guys that dipped out and maybe some
of these coaches that are coaching this year two years
from now. It becomes overwhelming because as this continues to evolve.
Speaker 5 (26:51):
Right, Well, the irony is that Maryland apparently doesn't have
a lot of those things, right. I mean, that was
the big complaint about Kevin Willard that you brought up
with that you mentioned you.
Speaker 4 (26:59):
And Dan I were talking about the other day. Well,
but that's it, right.
Speaker 3 (27:02):
You have some of it, but you need more buy
in than just your small group, and part of it
was building the infrastructure to begin with and being willing
to do so.
Speaker 4 (27:12):
Right.
Speaker 3 (27:13):
I still have the firm belief that there was a
window whereby schools like Syracuse, Stanford, Northwestern, et cetera, based
on their alumni basis, might have had a first move
or advantage for kids that again, you're owing to the
academics and the standards from your schools, but you've got
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prominent people, and you don't have the size of the
alumni base of a Texas or in Ohio state, et cetera.
But you do have prominent people that for the sake
of activation for their basketball and football programs, you might
have been able to get into the pockets if you
decided you were going to go down that rabbit hole early.
(27:55):
You can't possibly compete with the alumni basis of a
Texas of an Ohio state that churn out more graduates
than a year than you do in a decade, or
more like from a sheer volume standpoint. If everybody gets involved,
you're fighting that other battle, but you're going after a
(28:17):
different subset of kids that if you were first to
the first over even a Notre Dame, perhaps when you're
talking about Stanford and schools of that ILK that maybe
in Northwestern or Syracuse, you're getting that student because you've
activated that. But they didn't, right, they waited to see
how things would play out, and for other schools bit
(28:38):
by bit trying to build the activations and build those structures,
because it takes a lot of bodies, right, it's not
the coaching staff has to come in and shake hands
and kiss babies, but there's a lot of other folks
that have to administer the rest of that program to
make it successful. And for the elder coaches, more often
than not, we've seen guys just say I'm out coach
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K J. Wright and others, they just wanted no part
of it. For others. Again, and I don't think I'm
talking out of school by saying, hey, they'd already done.
Speaker 4 (29:11):
A lot of this leg work.
Speaker 3 (29:12):
Sure, you know under the table all those years ago,
where that transition isn't as hard now, you still have
to put the structures in place to comply with whatever
skeletal thing the NC double A is requiring. You to do,
because let's face it, they're in the last vestiges of
whatever power they can try to enforce on things. And
(29:34):
now it just gets into a larger legal participation for
state federal rules as they get applied to this. But
for these older coaches, me and Tom Izzo calling the
transfer portal a urinal like, well, you either participated, you don't.
Speaker 5 (29:50):
That's what I'm talking about is if you're not, and
Izo maybe has figured out the balance, but I just.
Speaker 4 (29:57):
Yeah, it just goes back to what I said.
Speaker 5 (29:58):
If Buzz Williams is saying takes a new skill set,
I just hope he is willing to engage in that
skill set. Otherwise he's just about to steal money from
his employer for the next few years.
Speaker 3 (30:06):
Well, and that's it. In the old rule of it again,
it's no fun when the rabbit has the gun. When
coaches were able to dip after a year or two,
and Izzo's kind of an outlier, we talked about it
coming into this tournament, as you had going to the
Sweet sixteen nine coaches that had been.
Speaker 4 (30:22):
With their school three or few years.
Speaker 3 (30:25):
Willard's already dipped, right, He's done, and it moves on
to Villanova, and then you have the long just dating
marriages of guys like Izzo, Samson and several others right
that have been at a place for a decade plus.
So you know that dichotomy, and we'll watch how it
advances as we move forward the microwave society. But I
(30:47):
want it now at Aaron Underscore Tours. Find me over
at Swollen Dome. As we continue, we'll go back into
the fun and exciting world of the NFL, because you
can't get through a day of NFL chatter without a
little bit.
Speaker 4 (31:00):
Of Jerry Jones in you.
Speaker 3 (31:01):
But first we got Steve Desager one final time for
a trip through everything in our sporting universe.
Speaker 4 (31:07):
What I want to lose?
Speaker 6 (31:08):
That late NBA game at Denver, crazy double overtime loss
for Denver at home to Minnesota, won forty to one
thirty nine. Nikola Jokic finished with sixty one points. When
I mentioned he had sixty, he had just made a layup,
and then we saw the layup, but it didn't count
twice did I.
Speaker 4 (31:23):
See third ever sixty point triple double?
Speaker 6 (31:27):
He did wind up with eleven rebounds, ten assists, so
you're right, it was a sixty point triple double, but
on two free throws with no time left in Minnesota wins. Anyway,
Golden State got fifty two points from Steph Curry in
a victory at Memphis one thirty four one twenty five,
despite thirty six points from Jamaran in such a what
was a close game. Warriors on free throws twenty eight
(31:49):
for twenty eight and Draymond Green had a triple double.
Curry from three point range was twelve for twenty. He
had ten rebounds, eight assists and five steals. Orlandosent sen
and TOONEO to a fifth straight loss. New York sent
Philadelphia to a ninth straight defeat. Milwaukee had lost four
in a row, but shot sixty nine percent from the
floor and beat Phoenix won thirty three one twenty three.
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Janis Antennacumpo thirty seven points, eleven assists. Portland had lost
four straight but one at Atlanta. Chicago ended the four
game winning streak of Toronto one thirty seven, one point eighteen.
Kobe White of the Bulls twenty eight points. He was
named Eastern Conference Player of the Month. The West winner
Shay Gilgis Alexander of OKC, Ky Cunningham of the Pistons
(32:32):
is doubtful for Wednesday with the Bruce CAF he could
miss a fifth straight game. Jalen Brown at Boston questionable
for tomorrow with a bad knee. Detroit's Isaiah Stewart was
suspended two games after the recent fight at Minnesota. The
College Basketball Crown New Tournament at Las Vegas started yesterday.
The four winners on FS one today usc Villanova, Cincinnati,
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and UCF which beat Oregon State's seventy six seventy five.
Fox TV will have the coverage this weekend, with the
final on Sunday at the man Nit semifinal wins for
UC Irvine and Chattanooga Maryland's new head coaches Buzz Williams
from Texas A and M. The finalists for the John
Wooden Award include Cooper Flag of Duke and Jenni Broom
of Auburn. The Men's Final four starts Saturday. Women's final
(33:15):
four starts Friday. A reminder nascars on FS one again
the next couple of Sundays NHL. Among the ten games tonight,
Saint Louis won its tenth in a row and overtime
win against Detroit two to one. Montreal and overtime beat Florida.
Wins for Tampa Bay and Washington Columbus eight to four
over Nashville. In the NFL overtimes, we'll have both teams
(33:35):
now with a chance for possession like the playoffs have,
but it'll still be a ten minute overtime period. In
the regular season, and after a kickoff's touchback this new rule,
the ball will now be spotted at the thirty five,
not the thirty, hoping for fewer kicks into the end
zone and more returns. They're still using the so called
dynamic kickoff format. The late MLB game went to the
(33:56):
Dodgers seven to zero after beating Chris Sale in the
Atlanta Braves three to one. One Sale allowed to go
ahead homer to Mookie Betts in the sixth Atlanta OH
and six, and they faced Dustin May, who went five
innings in his first major league starting about two years
for LA. First baseman Freddie Freeman was out again with
the bad ankle. Road wins for Detroit and the Cubs.
San Diego at six and oh beat Cleveland seven nothing.
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Angels won and eleven innings at Saint Louis. Arizona beat
the Yankees seven to five Henneo Suarez a grand slam,
top of the eighth, Tampa Bay shout out, Pittsburgh seven nothing.
The Pirates are one and five and they sent their closer,
David Bednard to triple A. Texas won one nothing at
Cincinnati on a complete game from Nathan Evalde, eight strikeouts,
no walks, just ninety nine pitches.
Speaker 4 (34:40):
Back to you. Thanks so much, Steve, appreciate you. You know.
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Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
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Speaker 3 (35:14):
Hey, welcome back in Finish it up Strong air Fox
Sports Radio Jason Smith Show with Me Mike Harmon. No
Jason Smith Tonight in theory he's back tomorrow, we'll see
what his health check ups. We get what whether his
voice is back, because it was failing towards the end
of last night. I think it's the sadness over the
start of many of the Mets is really what it
(35:36):
comes down to. A loss to the Marlins today, Aaron
Torres in hisstead. We've had a fast paced, action filled
four ours. What we had a McDonald's All American game.
We had an nit it was a blowout the USC
game that we got to watch.
Speaker 4 (35:52):
We had a Dodger win, some.
Speaker 3 (35:54):
Hockey, a thrilling double overtime game that I'm still trying
to figure out how we get to that point where
we're in the one sixties right then, Nicole Jokic sixty
point triple double, the Russell Westbrook miss layup, the fall
at the end, like all of that just absolute chaos
in what was a wild day in the NBA. Because
(36:15):
we also had a Steph Curry fifty two point game
that we had to watch.
Speaker 5 (36:18):
Steph Curry fifty two points, it just doesn't mean as
much when when Jokic goes for sixty twelve and ten
or whatever it ended up being.
Speaker 3 (36:25):
Because the momentum started off the step fifty two point
game into the jamarant don't go there historyonics Indy violent
motion that he made well because that was part of
the NFL talks today. So it merged into stuff talking about,
you know, points of emphasis and the uptick in the
number of violent celebrations.
Speaker 4 (36:47):
Because you got to think of the children, Think of
the children, Aaron.
Speaker 5 (36:50):
Torres, you gotta think of the dummies, like John Moran's.
Speaker 4 (36:54):
For you who haven't seen it, there.
Speaker 5 (36:55):
Was a gun celebration, which I don't want to be
clutching pearls guy, but when you literally were suspended for gunplay,
I just I think it's in.
Speaker 4 (37:08):
Port taste well, and that's the bottom line to it.
Speaker 3 (37:10):
Right first defense, you're like, oh, we've seen enough like's
throat slash gestures used to be the norm, and a
lot of those things are just kind of like the Hey,
I've got my six shooters, look at me, I'm shooter
McGavin whatever else. Who's actually in the new PGA game.
I did not play him as an active character, I guess,
(37:31):
but he has the the gun motion and he's doing
that right in front of it. He's doing it towards
the bench and Buddy Heel does it back and then
he runs square into Steph Curry who looks at him
like he's insane, and Draymond Grave is like, Steph, did
you see that? And he does the motion. Damn so
no doubt. Adam Silver had his bat phone ringing. And
(37:52):
then he'll say, well, you know what, it can't mar
from a great performance from Nicole to Jokic.
Speaker 4 (37:57):
Maybe he does a little soft shoe dance. Try to
get you to do by the way the Lakers are
gonna play. I will and get back into all of that.
Speaker 3 (38:05):
But you know, it would be a day of NFL
fun without a little bit of Jerry Jones, because it
blew up a bit because he's in this standoff with
Micah Parsons. He starts talking about the contract. Hey, I'm
the one that's got to sign the check. Mike has
got to agree to it, and if I really want
to get something done, I'll always get it done. And
(38:26):
and part of it also, you know, just the the
idea of hey, I'm I'm Jerry Jones.
Speaker 4 (38:31):
This is the way it is.
Speaker 3 (38:32):
But he also kind of just dismissed the idea of, hey,
you've got other folks that are involved, you know, like
Michael Parsons agent, so saying it's not uncommon for me
to visit directly with players in this particular case, that's
the way I'm doing it.
Speaker 4 (38:46):
So MICHAEH.
Speaker 3 (38:47):
Parsons took to to social media and say, hey, I'm
not doing anything without my my agent, David Muliletta, who's
part of it. He's one of the best. He's negotiated
a ton of big deals. I hired expert for a reason.
There's no one I trust more when it comes to
negotiating contracts than David. No back doors in this contract
negotiation with a bunch of exclamation points and everything else
(39:11):
mixed therein. But you know, for Jerry Jones also saying, look,
I got to get it right. Just getting it done,
and even if it's cheaper, that may not be the
way to go, which has been one of the criticisms
with his deals for CD LAMB, for Dak Prescott, et cetera,
is that he costs himself money by waiting, and Jerry
Jones saying, well, that's not really the problem. I'd rather
(39:32):
get it right, which I can't say that I disagree
with his way of doing it, even if it is
in the moment perhaps costing you a free agent or
two in the marketplace off of money you don't have
to spend.
Speaker 5 (39:44):
Yeah, I mean, I think, you know, it's just so
tough because Jerry just I don't know when he's saying
stuff just because there's a camera in front of his
face versus what he actually thinks and feels. But yeah,
I don't think he's actually negotiating anything with my without
representation presence.
Speaker 4 (40:03):
So Jerry's gonna Jerry.
Speaker 5 (40:06):
I I just at this point just feel bad for
Cowboys fans because Jerry's an all time you know whatever,
but he is just I don't know, there's it's just
they're they're beyond they're they're they're they're beyond a laughing stock.
Speaker 4 (40:22):
They're just forgettable.
Speaker 5 (40:24):
Like you talk about all the interesting stories in the NFL,
the Cowboys are at the bottom of that list, And
so you hear a story like this and it's just
like Jerry's gonna screw it up some way somehow, and
it's it's it's just speaks to this state.
Speaker 4 (40:37):
Of the Cowboys.
Speaker 3 (40:37):
Well, I think it just ties directly to a lot
of what we've been talking about. With college basketball. It's
like the business has changed. Sure right now, it's not
just Hey, the owner and maybe one or two close
people at the top take care of business. You have
to have the infrastructure of a bunch of football people
and contract people and cap management people that need to
(40:58):
get in the fray where Jerry Jones, like a lot
of these older coaches, they either don't want to or
they refuse to believe.
Speaker 4 (41:05):
That that's the case. Bengo, that last part's the key.
Speaker 3 (41:08):
Add Aaron underscore Torres follow him on his road to
San Antonio and the final four. For me, I'll be
back tomorrow at Swollen Dome. Now it's not for Ben
Mallin to take into the overnight here at Fox Sports
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