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(00:53):
what Laura John Morian coming up later on this hour,
Go ahead to Vegas get a big preview of the
Final four. But let me just say this before we
get into Aaron Rodgers. Right, I got a big bull
prediction for Aaron Rodgers. I saw last night the Phillies
had Ronald McDonald out to throw the first.

Speaker 3 (01:09):
Ball before the game.

Speaker 4 (01:10):
Jason, before you go here, Yeah, just no, uh huh
that I believe that's where he's from.

Speaker 3 (01:16):
Okay, I understand, I understand that. I understand that.

Speaker 1 (01:22):
Get your own McDonald's guy. Don't come biting off ours. Okay,
get get Burger King, get Carl's Junior, get Jack in
the box. You just look like you're copying us with grimmis. Okay,
I just get get your own guys, Get your own guy.

Speaker 3 (01:37):
Okay, there we go.

Speaker 5 (01:38):
Now Ronald McDonald and he's a south baw and come on,
how great was this?

Speaker 1 (01:44):
He did look good throwing a ball like like that
picture of him, like in the middle of his wind up.
I'm like, he looks like he he looks like he
could start. I mean the mets le Sean Maney is
not coming back for another few weeks again, so hey,
I mean he could come out of the bullpen for
us and be a spot starter.

Speaker 3 (01:58):
I like that. Why not? Wow, it's clown show anyway,
So let's go. Let's go. Could he come out in
full uniform? I don't like that, I mean full face. No,
you have to allow Ronald McDonald to pitch in his
in his McDonald's uniform.

Speaker 5 (02:17):
No, but that's what I mean. Like they they would
allow him to go out. Listen, normal uniform rules. I
mean it's not the NFL, no, no, no, but a
team hat. Obviously, he's gotta wear a team hat.

Speaker 3 (02:28):
Does he can wear a hat though?

Speaker 5 (02:29):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (02:30):
Well it's kind of fun to see him try to
jam a hat on that big red hair, you know,
I mean it would be kind of fun.

Speaker 3 (02:34):
I mean you can pint it down, it'd be okay.
So but I think you need the hat. But and
that's it. And the stirrups, hat, stirrups. How big were
the shoes? I'm looking at the shoes where they've howe
however big you need the shoes to be.

Speaker 5 (02:48):
You can have whatever shoes you want, comically large to
distract the hitter, sure, show Bob, Like I just.

Speaker 1 (02:56):
Keep thinking of the Simpsons. Big shoes to fill, big
shoes to fill, big shoes to fill. All right, So
get your own guy, go go to a different face food.

Speaker 5 (03:05):
Come on now, how about that becomes a big controversy
match up phill.

Speaker 3 (03:12):
He's a dominant.

Speaker 5 (03:12):
Ever since they brought out Ronald McDonald, the Mets have
just cowered in beer.

Speaker 3 (03:16):
We can't win anymore because they got Ronald McDonald. Now
they got the.

Speaker 1 (03:20):
Trumped us with the big guy. They got the ringleader. Man,
we just had one of those, one of the we
just had one of the tea birds. They went out
and got Danny Zuko. Come on, man, all right, so
I'll give you a bold prediction after hearing a couple
of things today.

Speaker 3 (03:34):
Look, Pro Football Talk Mike Florio said.

Speaker 1 (03:37):
Today, you know, the chances are getting slim that the
Steelers are going to sign Aaron Rodgers and Ben Roethlisberger.
On his podcast, mate, someone's gonna hire Ben Roethlisberger to
be an end Lisson's good.

Speaker 3 (03:48):
It's gonna be a big deal. Uh.

Speaker 1 (03:50):
Roethlisberger said he believes that Rogers is waiting to hear
from Minnesota, like he's waiting that out for Minnesota. And
I'll tell you this right, I'll go bold. Rogers is
not gonna end up with the Steelers. It's not gonna happen,
really because all of this, for all of this that's
gone on, if he wanted to be a Steeler, he

(04:12):
would have been there by now.

Speaker 3 (04:14):
He would have been there.

Speaker 1 (04:15):
Because the two things that you have heard thrown out there,
Oh well, they got to figure out the money.

Speaker 2 (04:20):
No.

Speaker 1 (04:20):
No, Aaron Rodgers is not in any any position to
ask for money or try to get certain amounts of money.

Speaker 3 (04:27):
No, he's done. He's not getting that, right.

Speaker 1 (04:29):
It's it's this should be a negotiation that is pretty simple, right,
It's not gonna be where Rogers looking for this. He's
owed forty eight million dollars. This is not Jets getting
Rogers away from Green Bay. Oh, but he wants to
do it on Pat McAfee's big special that's coming up
in a couple of weeks there. Okay, First of all,
Pat McAfee's got his own issues. Secondly, that's too predictable

(04:51):
for Aaron Rodgers. It's too predictable for him to suddenly, oh, yeah,
I'm gonna go to Pat's place and do it, when
if it's only the Steelers you're gonna go to it's
really anticlimactic. And again it is it's too predictable for
Rogers to do it. He knows what it means to
be a quarterback of a team. He knows what it
means to get there. He knows that the sooner he

(05:12):
gets there, the better it would be. His teammates would
love him more if he made a decision rather than
sitting around and waiting. So all of this stuff is
just crap. It's just excuses made up to talk about
why Aaron Rodgers isn't a Pittsburgh Steeler yet. Right if
Rogers wanted to be there, he would have been there,
because there's no other place for him right now, there's none.

Speaker 3 (05:34):
There's none.

Speaker 1 (05:35):
He's got to hope something shakes free. And clearly he
is telling us that I am okay waiting to see
if that's something better shakes free, which is a real
damning statement to make about how good of opening the
Steelers starting quarterback is?

Speaker 3 (05:53):
All right?

Speaker 1 (05:54):
Because here's a team that we think is ready to go.
They're locked and loaded, they brought in weapons in the offseason,
their defense is great. H Wait a minute, maybe be
in the quarterback of the Steelers isn't as great a
gig as we think it is. Right, And when you're
Aaron Rodgers, he's gonna go there and he's gonna mesh
with Mike Tomlin. Forget it, man, him and Mike Tomlin.
That's like oil and water. Rogers wants to go to.

(06:15):
Rogers wants to go to a team where hey, I
can do my thing and Robert Sala you can just
coach the defense, or I can show up on Pat
McAfee on Tuesday and I can just continue to rip
a lafloor and gooda Koons and anybody I want to
and have everybody laugh Like that's that's who I want,
is my head coach.

Speaker 3 (06:33):
I don't want my way the Highway guy.

Speaker 1 (06:35):
I don't want a guy that's gonna be, you know,
dealing with me and and and trying to get me
to do certain things.

Speaker 3 (06:40):
I don't want that. That.

Speaker 1 (06:42):
Rogers does not work under a really strong head coach
like Mike Tomlin. He needs to be I gotta do
my own thing, and nobody gets to do their own
thing under Mike Tomlin.

Speaker 3 (06:53):
He's gonna try.

Speaker 1 (06:54):
Look Le'Veon Bell was too much to let him go, right,
Antonio Brown too much, they let him go. He dealt
with Roethlisper for the most of his career because he
was a quarterback. But in the end, look at what
they've been doing since Roethlisberger was here. Everybody is. Everybody
that's come in. There's been no big superstars. It's all
been players at Tomblin is like, okay, no big free thinkers.
Nobody's gonna come in with a certain way of doing things.

(07:14):
No one's gonna embarrass the organization. We're doing it my way.
That's not an Aaron Rodgers way to go. And if
you think it's gonna be Minnesota because he thinks Minnesota
is a better opportunity, uh, you gotta wait in Minnesota
to see if JJ McCarthy's not healthy. And really, he
looks healthy. You got a clean bill of health. You
got to look and see that he can't do the job.

(07:35):
And he looked pretty good in preseason last year before
he got heard. You don't think he's gonna suddenly fall
on his face in the preseason. So is it really
Minnesota or is it just another opportunity that he thinks
is better than the Steelers. So suddenly now it's not
just Minnesota where we have a lot of talent and
I could just throw it up to Justin Jefferson and
I had Hockinson and that guy. Suddenly now it's maybe

(07:56):
there's other opportunities that could arise that are better than
the Steelers.

Speaker 3 (08:00):
And the fact that he's.

Speaker 1 (08:01):
Willing to sit and wait to try to regain the
narrative of I'm in control here. I can retire if
I want to. I don't need to play again again. This,
this tells you, this is a damning indictment of the
Steelers quarterback situation. I can wait to go there. I
don't really want to go there. I want to go
someplace else. And I'm okay keeping everybody waiting until I decide.

(08:24):
And again, this brings me back to what I said
at the beginning. If he wanted to be a Steeler,
he would have been there by now. There's no there's
nothing stopping it from happening, and the fact that he's
not there tells you everything you need to know.

Speaker 3 (08:36):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (08:36):
I think there's a couple of things to it, though,
is that what's what's the rush to get there? Clearly
he can already work out with the Steelers guys. Hey, DK,
you want to have a catch, sure, and you might
open it invite to other guys. I mean, he's hanging
out at the Jay Glazer Soire with all the coaches.
I'd love to be a fly on the wall there.
There's Andy Reid's next next to and then Aaron Rodgers

(08:59):
on the other side, and it's like, well, eventually, well
the thing is eventually, you know they're gonna do something
whether it's a trade in the draft or drafting a
quarterback and then suddenly, oh, we're closed for business. Now
we feel okay with Mason Rudolph and Jalen Milroe because
that clearly could have We feel okay with with with
Mason Rudolph and Quinn Ewers, and we think quinn Ewers
is gonna take this job by the middle of the season.
So you run the I mean, he knows he runs

(09:21):
the risk of we're getting it too close to the
draft where suddenly they're gonna move on and now there's
no chair for me. So I mean, it is a
lot of danger for you can't just sit here and decide,
like in the beginning of August, I'm gonna show up.

Speaker 3 (09:33):
But Steeler sure can't do that well.

Speaker 2 (09:35):
I mean, look, you have a couple of weeks.

Speaker 5 (09:37):
Now before there's any you know, voluntary off season workouts
that need to be done. If you're under contract, you're
you're then subject to NFL rules, Whereas right right about
now you get to do whatever the hell you want.

Speaker 1 (09:49):
Going back to Egypt, everybody, I'll see you later, you
know what I mean.

Speaker 5 (09:52):
Like, if there's a if there's a deal in place,
you know, a verbal yeah, yeah, we'll get there.

Speaker 3 (09:57):
Fine.

Speaker 5 (09:58):
Uh, you don't have anything to do until the last
week of April before you you really have to start,
you know, really getting to that point of all right,
let's let's get to our deal and even then maybe
holding out for the first injury during camp.

Speaker 3 (10:16):
Of course, you know, the the Falcons are doing that too.
We got Kirk, got Kirk sitting there, yeah.

Speaker 5 (10:22):
And Arthur Blank's sitting there going blank this. I'll have
to eventually eat a lot of money to make this happen.
I mean he was spotted at a Cleveland area at
Chipotle Cousins not Arthur Blank for those unawares, but.

Speaker 1 (10:36):
Maybe he was thereafter maybe Kirk Cousins went, and then
a few days later Arthur Blake went.

Speaker 5 (10:41):
He set the table for him to show up and
and you know, maybe try their their best fare. But
all of that to say, for Rogers, you have a
couple more weeks that you can watch how things develop. Watch,
you know, because everybody's the Vikings haven't shut the door.
We talked about that, right their GM and O'Connell, well,

(11:03):
you know, Aaron was here and blah blah blah, we
like and they did their tepid endorsement of JJ McCarthy.

Speaker 3 (11:10):
Again, for the Steelers, we like Mason Rudolph. We don't
love him. We like Mason Rudolph.

Speaker 5 (11:16):
But so for Aaron Rodgers, you got a couple more
weeks where you can watch folks, maybe put a better
pitch in front of you. Maybe you know you have
that battle with the Steelers of all, right, Arthur Smith's
doc but in name only right, because all the reports
were that Mike Tomlin overruled him anyway to install Russell

(11:37):
Wilson as the guy over justin Fields last year, just
as we surmised. But for Rogers, no, no push to
be into a camp. You get there eventually, and then
they'll be injuries, there'll be other circumstances. But I just
don't see the urgency. We want it now right. It
could flash fry a buffalo in forty five secs, but
he could look.

Speaker 3 (11:58):
Want it now.

Speaker 1 (11:59):
But this is this, This is the best opening that
he's going to have, because what if you get an
opening where it's a team you don't want to go to?
What if the Jaguars have an opening? Yeah, I'm not
gonna answer that one.

Speaker 5 (12:10):
Oh forget it. I see what I see that phone
call coming in. Not do now the other parts to it.
I mean, Mike Tomlin is tolerated knuckleheadedness. In fact, you
could say that he thrived in a decade full of knuckleheadedness.
So you know that does not preclude anything from Merret
Rodgers showing up for a year. Yeah, but it's like
it's like I tell my daughters with every class they take.

Speaker 3 (12:30):
Man, I really hate this.

Speaker 5 (12:31):
You know, the professor you know, doesn't give us this,
and and you say you get through anything for four months. Likewise,
Mike Tomin was like, I could win enough games to
where that street continues. I can do anything for a
couple of months. By the way, the press conferences with Tomlin,
if Rogers.

Speaker 3 (12:48):
Is there, come on, that's gold.

Speaker 1 (12:50):
Oh yeah, yeah it would it would be we would
have to just sit through what did he mean when
he said this? What did he mean when he gave
that look where he said that like that, It would
be it would be great to go through it.

Speaker 3 (13:00):
That would be great us. It's good for business.

Speaker 1 (13:03):
But really Rogers is okay with rolling the dice and
not going to the Steelers because there might be something
better out there, which really that's what it's about here.
You'd be the starting quarterback of this looks like many
people want to be the starting quarterback of the Steelers.

Speaker 3 (13:15):
Maybe not.

Speaker 1 (13:16):
Maybe it's not that great a gig. I mean that
this is a this is a big deal that he
has not said yes, but it's the only landing spot.

Speaker 4 (13:23):
For so Jason, you said he's not going to be
on Pat McAfee. Uh, which will be?

Speaker 3 (13:28):
You know he won't announce on Pat mckef You said.

Speaker 4 (13:31):
He won't, so he will, said he won't?

Speaker 3 (13:32):
You think he will? Maybe Pat McAfee doesn't have a
show by that point. Who knows?

Speaker 5 (13:40):
Are you getting into legal stuff? You got that story swirling?

Speaker 3 (13:45):
You want to do that?

Speaker 4 (13:45):
You're still going to stop rooting for Pat?

Speaker 3 (13:50):
Exit?

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Coming up next, we head to Vegas, get a big sneak.

Speaker 1 (13:59):
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Speaker 1 (15:30):
Well, I more on John Moran coming up in a
few minutes, but right now, time to head to Vegas
to get the latest on the Final Four. Nobody better
than longtime friend of the show Todd Furman. You can
find him on Twitter at Todd Furman for rodds Maker,
now the co founder host of the Bet the Board podcast.
You can see him on CBS Covers as well. What's

(15:51):
Happening Todd? How are you, Bud?

Speaker 6 (15:53):
I'm doing well tonight, gentlemen, how are you boys holding up?

Speaker 1 (15:55):
Uh?

Speaker 3 (15:56):
Good?

Speaker 1 (15:56):
I'm sorry your Golden Knights had a tough time with
the Jets tonight, but as you will see all season long,
the Jets cannot be stopped well.

Speaker 6 (16:03):
I mean, trust me, if there's one team that you
know can disappoint you, it is the Jets. And apparently,
whether they're hick from Winnipeg or from New York, they
find a way to creep into both our respective lives,
and for the first time in a while, the Jets
got the better the Golden Knights in a regular season matchup.

Speaker 3 (16:18):
I can't stop the Jets. Cancel. The Jets offense is terrific,
can't stop them.

Speaker 6 (16:22):
Hey, you know what's funny about all this and what
I think? You know, you may need to start a
support group. And I'll make sure that I passed along
my wife's cell phone number. She can walk you through
what it's like living the Justin Fields experience, and you
can walk her through what it's like living the Aaron
Rodgers experience. And by the time the calendar flips from
September to October, both of you will need to try
and stay away from any brown or clear liquor that

(16:45):
can force you into poor choices.

Speaker 3 (16:47):
Oh no, no, it's gonna be like.

Speaker 1 (16:48):
One of those like whenever there's a big meeting in
the movies and it's always like in a basement somewhere
and they need at the bad coffee. Like that's me
and your wife being to going Aaron Rodgers. Huhy, Justin
Fields out. Yeah, I'll see you here next week, all
right up here? Yeah, all right, we'll be good.

Speaker 3 (17:04):
There to go.

Speaker 6 (17:05):
Suret to me. I'm not looking forward to it. And
in this residence when she has through it for Lincoln,
Riley and USC on Saturday and followed up with the
Aaron Rodgers experience on Sunday. Those are going to make
for some long Saturdays and Sundays.

Speaker 3 (17:15):
All fall long.

Speaker 1 (17:16):
We're gonna have a long Saturday this week with two
Final four games Florida Auburn first, Houston Duke the second.
I saw you put a question up on Twitter a
couple of days ago the best bet to make for
the Final Four for these games on Saturdays either Duke
minus four and a half, Houston getting four and a half,
Florida giving two and a half, Auburn getting two and
a half.

Speaker 3 (17:37):
What's your pick on this? What's your best bet of
the day.

Speaker 6 (17:39):
I mean, look, people love this Duke bou Deevils team,
and it's hard to argue with given what we've seen
from John Shires team throughout the course of the NCAA tournament,
dominating to win against Baylor. We're able to put one
hundred points on Arizona and follow it up with a
lockdown defensive effort against Alabama. But I think this is
where rubber meets the road and you're going up against
the team that plays the best defense, not just of

(18:02):
the four teams remaining in the tournament, but maybe the
entire country. It's a veteran Leyden group. It's a Houston
team that came up a bit short last year against
a different looking Duke roster, but has revenge on their mind.
And the one thing for Duke, if you go through
their resume and we can reset the calendar about January. First,
they've played one team that ranks inside the top twenty
in defensive efficiency. That one team, the Clemson Tigers, just

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happens to be the only loss that Duke has on
their resume. And while I do have concerns about Houston
and some of their offensive shortcomings and how reliant they
are on shooting from deep, this is a big number
and I only make the game closer to three. It's
rare to have that kind of an edge for when
you only have two games less than the final four
with this many data points. But you know, I think
Houston is extremely live as a five point underdog, and

(18:46):
I think they have all the makings of a team
that can not only beat Duke but still cut down
the net to win the national championship.

Speaker 5 (18:51):
Yeah, that total sitting at one thirty six and a half.
Todd what were the odds of all four seeds making
it to the end.

Speaker 6 (18:59):
You look at the over under for one seeds to
make it to San Antonio, that was priced at two
and a half, but if you wanted to go over
a plus one sixty, it was kind of the prevailing
price tag. I'd seen a number right around fifteen or
sixteen to one of all the number one seeds to
be able to secure passage for just the second time
since two thousand and eight. So pretty impressive in that regard,

(19:20):
And if you believe in a lot of the analytics
sites that are out there, forward facing that we have
access to now, I mean, arguably four of the best
ten teams that we've seen in college basketball over the
last twenty years, so Rubber has met the road. And
I think when you're looking at all of these teams
trying to find flaws. Sure, Florida has been a little
bit fortunate to get through Yukon, and of course we
raced out late deficite against Texas Tech. But Auburn has

(19:41):
more than answered the bell. Houston arguably the most difficult
road to get to this point and Duke has just
bludgeoned everybody in their path.

Speaker 3 (19:48):
Hey, how'd you how you do it in your bracket
so far?

Speaker 6 (19:52):
You know, it was pretty chocky for me. But the
one eighth that I have on my proverbial sleeve is,
you know, despite having a pooled I think about sixty
five people, I'm only one of three people that has Houston.
So Houston beating Florida in the National Championship gives me
a little bit of a pass. I had Texas Tech though,
knocking off Florida, and that would have given me a
bit of a leg up on the competition. But at

(20:13):
this point you just need to try and keep Auburn
out of the mixes. For whatever reason, A lot more
people in the main pool I'm met have Auburn beating
Florida and the.

Speaker 2 (20:19):
Other way around.

Speaker 3 (20:20):
Yeah, Smith led that Saint John's bad wag. I was
done sick.

Speaker 6 (20:24):
I warn you guys the same way I have worn
Arnie in playing when everybody is jumping on the Johnnies
at terribly short prices, and then you have other prominent
media members for other networks that want to try and
clamor for taking the worst number out there in the
futures market on Saint John's. We knew that things were
going to be a little bit more difficult. I didn't
know it would come at the heels of a twenty

(20:46):
seven percent shooting performance, which actually might be higher than
the team's overall GPA. I just haven't a chance to
look into it.

Speaker 3 (20:51):
Wow, hey, wait, wait, you still have to go to school.

Speaker 6 (20:56):
No, I don't think so. We're all Cartel Jones at
this point. We're just not there to play school.

Speaker 1 (21:01):
You can't insult Saint Come on, man, that's my hometown.
You cannot insult Saint John's like that. Come on, that's
a good school. I know a lot of people who
went there.

Speaker 6 (21:09):
I mean, it is the Harvard.

Speaker 3 (21:10):
Don't ask they graduated, but I know a lot of
people who went there. Yeah.

Speaker 6 (21:14):
I mean, look, a lot of people go to college
for seven years. Most of them are called doctors.

Speaker 5 (21:17):
Sure, or you get into the transfer portal when you
just keep the checks coming through nil as we see. Now, Hey,
what's the over under for the Dodgers' win total looking
at today?

Speaker 6 (21:30):
I mean, at this point, it should be one hundred
and sixty one and a half. Get in what we've
seen from the Dodgers. I'm not sure anybody can step
in front of this free train, given the fact that
they're not even getting elite starting pitching performances, but they're
finding a way leading into their bullpen and of course
a very decorated lineup to go along with that short
price relatively speaking, though, Tomorrow on the Dodgers they travel

(21:50):
across the country to take on Hayesuslizardo and the Philadelphia
Phillies right around minus a dollar forty. I think the
bigger question that all of us are going to ask
is how big a rice tag can we attach to
the Dodgers when they're home against the Rockies in just
a few short days.

Speaker 5 (22:05):
Oh, Todd, let me follow up with that, because we
did a story a little bit earlier the Mets were
able to ride a surge of energy off of Grimace
showing up for a first pitch. The Phillies countered with
Ronald McDonald today. Does that give you anything in the
betting market?

Speaker 6 (22:19):
You know, when you're digging deep into the McDonald's arsenal
of iconic figures and it's April third, that may not
be a ringing in person for what the Phillies are
to accomplish. Fortunately for them, they play in a National
League East where the Atlanta Braves have forgotten what it
takes to win baseball games, and the Mets are, of
course always just the mess.

Speaker 3 (22:38):
How about should that use the odds for them? Right?
No team's ever gotten to the playoffs at zero to seven.

Speaker 6 (22:44):
It still hasn't brought their odds to make the playoffs
down all that much. You have to lay a price
right around minus two dollars, give or take a few cents,
depending on the book, for them to make the playoffs.
And look, I understand why Braves fans are frustrated, rightfully so,
but maybe the Dodgers and Padres are just that good.
Not exactly the easiest schedule that the Braves had to
play right out of the gates. But we'll see if

(23:04):
their offense can get on track and they can nail
down some of their starting pitching. But clearly they've dug
themselves a hole. You don't want to be five and
a half games down in the division before we even
get to April tenth.

Speaker 1 (23:15):
Todd fervan Vegas insider with us Jason Smith Mike carbon
Lot from the tirec dot Com Studios all right, So
we've we talked a lot about Aaron Rodgers tonight going forward,
and here he is was kind of waiting for his decision.
Have the odds moved at all for him for his
next team? Is it still the Steelers in are the favorites?
Anybody else moving around on the board there?

Speaker 6 (23:33):
Honestly, Smith, I haven't seen most books keep those numbers up.
I think at this point it's pretty much the Steelers
of retirement, as the Vikings have kind of shut the
door on that potential possibility. So when you're down to
just such limited offerings, you know, books aren't going to
do a whole heck of a lot. Somebody clearly has information,
and if we're reading all the tea leaves about Rogers
and some of the major media events that are coming

(23:54):
up next week, there's a good chance that if this
deal gets done, it probably gets announced sooner rather than later.
The Steelers have been extremely patient through this whole situation,
and frankly, as a football fan, I'm a little disappointed
because in the ideal world, the schedule makers would line
up the Steelers taking on the Browns not once, but
twice during the month of September. So we could see
Mason Rudolph and Kenny Pickett go out there and duel

(24:16):
on hopefully in a primetime setting given that quarterback ineptitude
for those teams in the NFC or AFC.

Speaker 1 (24:23):
North Kenny Pickett and Mason Rudolph Prime much ETV.

Speaker 6 (24:29):
Look that's got Amazon Prime that first Thursday night Football
against the season window.

Speaker 3 (24:34):
Bad all over.

Speaker 2 (24:36):
I've ever seen it.

Speaker 1 (24:38):
Al Michael will walk off the set. I'm sorry, Kirk,
I can't do it anymore.

Speaker 6 (24:42):
Look I tried to walk off well, I'm sure wanted
to walk off the set multiple times last year. So
you know, maybe that gives us an instant classics thirteen
to ten and everybody can parlay both quarterbacks to throw
an interception.

Speaker 2 (24:52):
In the first half.

Speaker 1 (24:53):
At Todd Ferman on Twitter. That is at Todd Ferman
on Twitter. Check out the bet the Board podcast as well.
Todd is always buddy, appreciate it, man, enjoy the night.
We'll talk to you next week.

Speaker 6 (25:03):
You got a gentlemen, enjoy the great basketball. This weekend
should be a lot of fun in San Antonio.

Speaker 3 (25:06):
See you all right?

Speaker 1 (25:08):
There he goes, yeah there, Mason Rudolph, Kenny Pickett, Al
Michaels will be reading it like Harry Doyle.

Speaker 3 (25:14):
One hit.

Speaker 1 (25:16):
That's all we got was one blankety blanket hit. Wait
next week? Is Mason Rudolph and Kenny Pickett? Are you
serious with this game?

Speaker 3 (25:23):
Dude?

Speaker 5 (25:23):
We can channel all of that with what the Reds
have been doing offensively right now. And should there be
odds for the game that Al Michaels just says, I've
had enough.

Speaker 1 (25:34):
That's the game that will break out Michaels. If that's
what it turns out to be, that will absolutely break it.

Speaker 3 (25:38):
It'll be the super Bowl champion Kenny Pickett getting after it.

Speaker 1 (25:44):
Time now to find out what's trending in the wide
world of sports of someone who tonight had cal Irvine
to win it.

Speaker 3 (25:51):
All in the nit Ah.

Speaker 1 (25:55):
Bet her car on it whoa and her o Tawny
Bobblehead absolutely and came just short of winning. It's Manzi
Blagos with what's true?

Speaker 2 (26:04):
Oh that was brutal. Harmon sent me the video. That
was brutal.

Speaker 4 (26:09):
The backboard hit the backboard, hit the damn backboard.

Speaker 3 (26:12):
I know he you know it looked like he wasn't
ready for the past.

Speaker 1 (26:15):
I don't care what it was coming no, no, I
agree with you, but it looked like he didn't think
the pass was coming.

Speaker 3 (26:22):
He wasn't kind of sure what to do. But wow,
brutal plate. That was almost a lightener plate. It almost happened.

Speaker 7 (26:29):
Brutal like, Oh, what an awful way that guy.

Speaker 2 (26:33):
Must feel like absolute poop.

Speaker 3 (26:36):
Okay, let's as do I because I bet the d
Eaters and I lost. No.

Speaker 7 (26:42):
No, it was a close one in LA between the
Warriors and the Lakers, but Golden State did hold on
one twenty three one sixteen was the final score. Steph
Curry was the leading scorer, thirty seven points. Brandon Pizem
Skip adem skip is Skiing, I hate that name, but
he had a career high eight threes for a total
of twenty eight points. Lebron James in a losing effort
thirty three points and nine assists. By the way, Lakers

(27:04):
bench had a total of seven points. You're not gonna
win like that the girls.

Speaker 3 (27:10):
That's a Knicks type effort. Seven effort, yeah, seven points,
no boy, No.

Speaker 7 (27:16):
The Grizzlies actually heat won ten to one O eight
on a Jamaran buzzer beater. He ended with thirty points.
Jan Nisante Takoupo with the stat line that no one's
ever had in the NBA thirty five points, seventeen rebounds,
twenty assists, and the Bucks top the seventy six Ers
won twenty five to one thirteen. Pellow Banco not too
shabby with his thirty three points, eighteen rebounds on eight assists,

(27:36):
and the Magic defeated the Wizards one on nine to
ninety seven. In baseball, Aaron Judge hit home run number
five on the season. It was a three run shot
in the first inning as the Yankees outscored the Diamondbacks
ninety seven to avoid the sweep. The Brewers shut out
the Reds won zero. Cincinnati has been shut out for
the last three games. Kyle Schwarber also homeward for the
fourth time this season as the Phillies completed a three

(27:58):
games sweep of the Rockies. Three to one was the
final score. Alex Bregman hit his first homer as a
Red Sox, as a Red Sox, as a reds as
a single.

Speaker 3 (28:08):
Sorry, I was like a Red Sox as a Red Sox.
That just sounded weird. It was right right as a
Red Sock.

Speaker 7 (28:13):
As they doubled up on the Orioles eight to four
was the final score there. In the NFL, the Cardinals
made tight end Trey McBride the highest paid tight end
in the NFL, giving him a four year, seventy six
million dollar extension. Raiders quarterback Gino Smith received a two
year extension worth seventy five million, with sixty six point
five million guaranteed it could be even more than that.
And the Cowboys acquired quarterback Joe Milton and a seventh

(28:35):
round pick from the Patriots for a twenty twenty five
fifth round pick. And lastly, on the ice, the Jets
shut out the Golden Knights four zero, while the Senators
edged the Lightning two to one.

Speaker 2 (28:45):
Guys, it's been fun.

Speaker 3 (28:48):
Before.

Speaker 1 (28:48):
Before you go see who was the name of that
guy from the Spurs had that big iglready?

Speaker 4 (28:54):
Got it?

Speaker 3 (28:55):
No, I need to like write that down and just
keep it my phone.

Speaker 2 (29:01):
What was it?

Speaker 3 (29:03):
Oh?

Speaker 4 (29:03):
Yes, Mama collage feelies.

Speaker 3 (29:05):
Something like that.

Speaker 2 (29:06):
Very well, good job, Jason, Good night, guys, go to.

Speaker 1 (29:11):
See Jason Smith Mike Harmon live the TIREC dot Com studios.
All right, so we'll get into a big NFL story
coming up in a feunits.

Speaker 3 (29:20):
But just this because the Ja moran.

Speaker 1 (29:21):
Story is just taken over tonight after getting a warning
for you and doing finger guns with Buddy Heel a
couple of nights, it sounds like so like it's preschool.

Speaker 3 (29:31):
Hey, no finger guns in the schoolyard, everybody.

Speaker 1 (29:34):
U Morileq Like you're watching Star Wars. You pretend to
be the Stormtrooper and I'm gonna.

Speaker 3 (29:40):
Be Darth Vader.

Speaker 5 (29:41):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (29:42):
Look, we know Moran's history has been suspended by the
NBA twice because he's brandished guns on social media.

Speaker 3 (29:48):
So the one guy that can't be doing it is
Ja Morant.

Speaker 1 (29:51):
The NBA comes down light on him today when Adam
Silver says, hey, it's a warning from in Buddy Heel. Okay,
great Now. Tonight the full Morant was on display. He
hit the game winning shot that won the game for
the Grizzlies, but a couple of times did the finger
gun gesture. Couldn't wait to do it in the first half.

(30:11):
In the first quarter, after he hits a three, he
goes back up the court and does the finger guns.
This is hours after the NBA let him off easy
with I mean, this is a guy that's had suspensions
before and knows that Okay, I get that. Maybe I
feel like I'm being singled out, but I've done some
things embarrassing to the league and I want to stay
in the league. But clearly he doesn't care. He even

(30:33):
said it after the game. I don't care anymore. I've
been the villain the last couple of years. He's got
no choice, Adam Silver, but to suspend John Morant after
this because Morant has.

Speaker 3 (30:43):
Dared him to do it.

Speaker 1 (30:44):
Today he says, hey, a warning, don't do it, and
he does it at night. That's such a blank you
to Adam Silver's face and John Moran. This is not
the guy he was when he came into the league
and people wanted to do everything they can. Hey, dude,
get away from the guys that are you're hanging around
with that, you're having guns, get away from them, stay
with the guys on the team.

Speaker 3 (31:04):
Whatever it was.

Speaker 1 (31:05):
There were so many people out there with advice for him,
and still now he's the point where he says, oh,
I don't care anymore. I mean it, I'd love for
the guy to be in the league. I don't see it.
I don't see him with this kind of attitude. Him
saying I don't care after he's had more than enough
moments where it was, Hey, this is your moment where
you realize your entire life is at risk, and your

(31:25):
life and your startom in the NBA is an NBA
player and everything that goes along with it, this is
all at risk. And the fact that he doesn't care.
He's not going to be in the league very long.
I mean he's twenty five, he'll probably be out of
the league by the time he's thirty. Like, he doesn't
get it and he doesn't care to get it, and
that clearly was shown tonight. Yes, it's just him running
down the court with the finger guns, but it's a

(31:46):
bigger deal than that, because this was him deciding I'm
not going to do what the NBA says, even though
I embarrassed the league a couple of times and I
put myself in a position that I could lose my living,
I don't care about that. The guy's going to be
out of the league in a couple of years. Years,
he's gonna be gone.

Speaker 5 (32:01):
Yesterday they gave him the get out of jail free card,
and boy, he really burned that immediately. Oh yeah, said
let's get right back at it. And certainly you know,
proliferation of shots of Moran doing the same gesture over
the last couple of weeks, and I'd be curious across

(32:21):
the league how prevalent is it. Right, we saw the
report from Roger Goodell, you know how much doesn't get
noticed and certainly, look, Jazz had the much publicized suspense.

Speaker 1 (32:32):
He's the guy that can't do it of all the guys,
because there's been other examples of guys doing it. But
it's like, dude, you got suspended four guns? Do you
can't do the finger I'm sorry you've lost that privilege
of doing the finger guns.

Speaker 5 (32:44):
Yeah, I mean on the side, come on, yeah, I
mean on the plus side. I mean, he didn't go,
what's that movie Last Boy Scout.

Speaker 3 (32:54):
Gone? Well? You made that dark wow? You know. But
I'm just saying, like he didn't have have He's not
brandishing an actual gun. Whoa at this point. I mean,
you know how that scene went out out right, But
I get it.

Speaker 5 (33:07):
But I'm just saying in terms of having a physical gun,
he didn't ha one.

Speaker 3 (33:12):
Okay, right, okay, yes, yes, you're right here. No, no, no,
I wasn't saying the absolute end.

Speaker 5 (33:18):
I'm just saying into an arena into a field of play, right,
I wasn't going to the obvious end there. Sorry, sorry
to draw you know that you hit the fast forward
on me. I'm just saying in terms of the actual play,
like it wasn't to the arena. Look, we had all
sorts of issues, but he's lost the privilege of even

(33:38):
whatever that celebration is supposed to be.

Speaker 3 (33:40):
I'd love an explanation like what are we what are
we doing? You know who's at this point? Who's his fault?

Speaker 4 (33:45):
Is the front Madam Silver's fault?

Speaker 3 (33:48):
Well that topping him on the wrist.

Speaker 4 (33:50):
Why is he to take it serious?

Speaker 3 (33:51):
Well, now he's got well, now he's got no.

Speaker 4 (33:53):
No, they're just gonna warn him again.

Speaker 3 (33:55):
What do you mean there's no way, there's the course.

Speaker 4 (33:57):
The army said that last night.

Speaker 3 (33:58):
Well Wayne, what did they do?

Speaker 7 (34:00):
No?

Speaker 1 (34:00):
Then you would then you would also see a companion
piece of Hey we also xtraight, Adam Silver, Baby, he
doesn't He's got no spine, Adam Silver. Look, there's no backbone,
no spine. No, No, he has no choice but to
do it. He doesn't want to. That's why he never
wants to do anything.

Speaker 3 (34:15):
He doesn't want to.

Speaker 1 (34:16):
He doesn't want to do anything that upsets the players,
but he needs to do something here because he knows
I can't govern at all if I just say, oh, hey, yeah,
I warned you not to do it.

Speaker 3 (34:25):
You didn't do it, right.

Speaker 1 (34:26):
I mean, there's got to be something even the most
lax dad out there when when when one of his
kids does something that really just you kind of spit
in my face with it, I have to do something
on it or I lose all kinds of respect.

Speaker 3 (34:38):
He has no choice but to do it.

Speaker 5 (34:40):
I mean, I'll turn this car around. You eventually have
to turn the car around and not say damn it.
I need to eat too anyway.

Speaker 3 (34:47):
So which is what I want people do? And Adam
Silver is what he's the player's commissioner.

Speaker 1 (34:54):
Exit out about a Fresca exit swallen down the Jason
Smith Show with my best friend Mike Carbon up next. Well,
we talked about the Cowboys doing something brilliant today, which
how often do I say that? Uh, we're gonna couple
that with the NFL team that had another great move
today that again doesn't really have a lot of great moves.

Speaker 3 (35:14):
Who is it? We'll tell you next right here, Jason
and Mike Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 4 (35:18):
It wasn't the Jets.

Speaker 3 (35:20):
It's not the Jets. Jets Show, Winnipeg Jets. Sure ah.

Speaker 2 (35:27):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven
pm Pacific.

Speaker 1 (35:35):
Fox Sports Radio. The Jason Smith Show with My best
friend Mike Harmon Live from thetirerack dot Com Studios. It's
a weird night tonight, right. I crediting the Cowboys for
a great move today, getting Joe Milton right, because it's
going to keep the pressure on Dak Prescott. They did
it with Trey Lance, it worked, and.

Speaker 3 (35:55):
Now I'm gonna say great things about the Raiders. What
are you doing? What? What you do? Talk about a parlay?

Speaker 1 (36:02):
A show where I credit the Cowboys and the Raiders
for something and I'm serious about it for something in
the same show like that would never happen before.

Speaker 4 (36:11):
Can I say something?

Speaker 3 (36:12):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (36:12):
Go ahead for Rosberg, I'm actually going to pay for
Gino Smith's next contract extension myself.

Speaker 3 (36:20):
Oh good, okay?

Speaker 6 (36:24):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (36:24):
Geno Smith and the Raiders reach a two year, seventy
five million dollars all right? This according to Adam Schefter,
I love this move, right, He's contracting to Vegas through
the twenty twenty seventh season. Now, do I think that
Geno Smith is a you know this kind of quarterback
sixty six million dollars guaranteed.

Speaker 3 (36:45):
No, I don't, but the Raiders do.

Speaker 1 (36:49):
There is no team in the NFL that needs stability
more specifically stability the quarterback situation.

Speaker 3 (36:57):
More than the more than the Raiders do.

Speaker 1 (36:59):
Nobody needs it more because they have tried the last
few years to just put a team out there. The
move to Vegas, what are we doing? We love Derek Carr,
We're gonna get rid of Derek Carr. We're gonna replace
him with Aidan O'Connell and Gardner minshewit, what are you doing?
It was the worst quarterback situation in the game. Players
lose hope when you do this. But going out and

(37:19):
getting Gino Smith, this was a We're stopping all the backsliding.
And this is like the third or fourth time this
offseason where I could say, hey, the Raiders have stopped
the backsliding and they're nothing but clawing forward. Now, getting
Pete Carroll was a great move, right, This is a
great move because you need a quarterback is Gino Smith great?

Speaker 3 (37:38):
No, is he good enough? Yes, he's dynamic.

Speaker 1 (37:41):
He's a four thousand yard passer, and he's good enough
for you to stop the backsliding and say, this is
how we're gonna build forward. Now we have a really
good tight end, you got a couple of decent wide receivers.

Speaker 3 (37:51):
Right.

Speaker 1 (37:51):
We feel like we're gonna start by not saying suddenly
they turned into an eleven twelve win team, but they're
no longer this. Hey, we're gonna lose a game because
I'm fourth down. Our quarterback's not gonna be looking and
they're gonna snap the ball and hit him in the face. Right, Like,
I think those days that the Raiders are over, and
you know, whether it's Brady coming in and having this
kind of influence, they have had a really, really good

(38:12):
off season because it's only there's a bunch of different
ways to judge an off season.

Speaker 3 (38:15):
Right.

Speaker 1 (38:16):
If you bring in a different culture, that's great. If
you're bringing in the players you need, that's great. If
you are stopping backsliding and building forward with solid moves,
that's great too. The Raiders have had a great off
season and now with Gino Smith there, Okay, we have
our quarterback. The next three years we're good. We can
still draft somebody, I'm sure they will and bring them

(38:37):
along slowly and if something happens, they can go to them.
But they figured out the most important position. Gino Smith
is a solid enough guy. They needed a quarterback to
compete in that division. Because suddenly everybody can throw the
football and move it. It's a big it's a big,
big jump from what we thought this division was going
to be like last year to where we're at now.
But the Raiders have done so many good things, and

(38:58):
I love this extension for Ginos.

Speaker 5 (39:00):
You know one of my favorite Beatles songs, It's getting
better all the time, because as you go through it,
it's like, all right, it's getting better all the time.
And in the background they do in a very soft voice.

Speaker 3 (39:11):
It can't get much worse. That's where we're at with
the Raiders.

Speaker 5 (39:15):
So, I mean, because you're still climbing up hill here,
because you're you're gonna I mean, you do play the NFC.
So it's funny that we've been talking about the Cowboys.
They do have a game against New England. See, we're
wrapping everything in a big boat tonight. As we go
through but you're still climbing for those six games in
Division with what we saw Bo Nix and Sean Payton do,

(39:38):
and obviously we bow to the greatness that is the
Los Angeles Chargers, uh and the Khaki pants and then
over there in Kansas City you still have a juggernaut.
But in terms of stability and looking ahead, sure Gino
fits the bill. Don't like the money. It's about what
Sam Darnold ended up getting. When it's all and done,

(40:01):
you've got Bowers, You've got Jacoby Myers running back. Maybe
you need something besides white what they brought in mosture though, right,
So I mean you do have that hoping that you
get the best of what he once was. It went
healthy with the Dolphins and the forty nine ers before that.
Defensively you brought back Max Crosby, So I mean you

(40:22):
do have some component parts that gets you pretty excitable.
And then you go draft another guy that isn't Aidan O'Connell,
and Gino becomes that bridge to him dollar cost averaging
in the interim.

Speaker 1 (40:34):
Look, look like I said, it's not suddenly they're gonna
be great, but suddenly, Okay, the embarrassment of how are
we gonna lose this week, why don't we have a quarterback?
At least that stopped. And it's a good thing, right,
It's a really good thing. And it's also it's a
great thing for Gino Smith. And it's a great story
for him because this is a guy who flamed out
of New York.

Speaker 3 (40:53):
He was a bust.

Speaker 1 (40:54):
He was a backup for almost a decade before finally
getting a chance again, and not only has been able
to become a starting quarterback, he's gonna he's gonna earn
over one hundred million dollars over the course of the
last few years because he's able to start with the
Seahawks and now this deal he's got with the Raiders,
Like he went from one of the biggest busts of
all time in the NFL that who knows what it
was gonna be, but he's stuck with it and he

(41:15):
got his chance, and Pete Carroll believed him, and now
look at him. The guys set up generations of his
family for years and years and years because of this.
I mean, it's a great story.

Speaker 3 (41:24):
All of that to say, the over undround wins is
five and a half neck. It's okay, I had to
bring it back to bradon Bread sentence.

Speaker 1 (41:34):
Man, if the Raiders go five and twelve but they
lose a handful of games thirty five, thirty one, I
think the Raider fans will.

Speaker 3 (41:41):
Be happy, see there you go, but again it give him.

Speaker 1 (41:45):
It's upward for the Raiders now, nothing but that they
they There's no more backsliding, no buck sliding exit. How
about a fresca at Swollen Dome for Mike Im Jason
coming up next to my buddy Ben Maller.

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