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Jason and Mike get to the bottom of Rick Pitino benching RJ Luis in the last St. John's Tournament game. FOX Sports NBA Analyst Ric Bucher joins the show to talk Ja Morant, Lakers, Knicks and Cooper Flagg. Plus, the Cowboys actually did something brilliant!

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should be. Late in the third quarter, game of the
night in the NBA, the Warriors lead the Lakers eighty
five to seventy seven. Lebron has twenty two, Luca having
a rough night shooting zero for five from three point range,
He's got seventeen. Meanwhile, Steph has twenty five to pace
the Warriors again late in the third quarter. We'll have

(01:11):
more on this game coming up. We got Rick Buker
stopping by in about fifteen minutes with us. However, the
biggest controversy of the NCAA tournament got new life today
because still here we are getting ready for the Final four. Tomorrow.
It'll be our big Final four preview show. We'll talk
about the games. You who's cutting down the nets on Monday.
The game of the tournament continues to be Saint John's

(01:33):
in Arkansas, where the number two ranked Red Storm get
knocked out. It was Calipari and Patino, and it was
Patino benching Big East Player of the Year r J.
Lewis in the final five minutes of this game, and
he didn't talk about it after. It was a real
stunning thing to see for the last five minutes. Here
is your Big East player of the year on the

(01:55):
bench coaches decision, and Patino after the game didn't want
to talk about it, said, listen, you know why why
are you asking me leading questions? Right? So here's Patino
trying to protect his player while at the same time
letting you know, yeah, you know why I took him out.
Look at what went on? Well in the New York
Post got some audio today if Patino addressing the situation

(02:17):
for the first time through Vice Sports and Patino explaining
why he took RJ. Lewis out of the game. He
kind of harkens back to a very famous game that
he was on the losing end of as well a
little bit earlier in his career. Here's Rick Patino.

Speaker 3 (02:34):
Looking back in my career, I've made some good time outs,
some good moves and not putting a guy in the
ball against the Christian Laytna. In hindsight, seeing what happened,
I would have put a guy in the ball. The
right decision, not playing AUJ Louis in that game.

Speaker 1 (02:51):
Latna, I would have put a guy on Latna and hey,
and the latter thing coming full circle with the way
the Nit ended tonight with a near Latner play, except
the missed the final bucket. So we'll get to the
Latoner play in a minute. But here's Patino saying, right
call for me, I would do it again to bench
r J. Lewis right now. This was met with a

(03:12):
lot of what the hell is he doing? He's the
Big East player of the year. Why would I don't
care what kind of game he's having, He's gonna be
the guy to get you back in it. I'll tell
you this, and I understand this after coaching at youth
at the levels I have for the last few years.
Is that the one thing and what Patina was not
saying and kind of Lewis kind of alluded to it

(03:33):
after the game, saying, I don't think I was quite
the leader I should have been. I don't think I
was quite the person I should have been. Lewis, Now
who announces he's hitting the transfer portal. He's either going
to declare for the NBA draft if he gets a
good grade, or he's hitting the transfer portal. He's not
coming back to Saint John's and Saint John's already making
moves in the portal to replace him. Right, So here's
Big East Player of the Year. Loois is great. Yeah,
I'm done at Saint John's. I understand it because the

(03:56):
reason you would take a player like this out, who
is the Big East Player of the Year, who is
your best player, is if mentally he wasn't in the game,
and by that it means he wasn't ready to impact
the game. This wasn't just I had a bad night.
Keep getting me the basketball. I'm gonna keep shooting that
would be one thing, Well, you haven't a bad night,
I gotta take out Well, I gotta think that you're

(04:17):
a great player. In the last five minutes when we
need you, you're gonna make shots. Likely without knowing, what
I'm sure Patino was saying is mentally he was not
in the game the way he needed to be, so
he took him out of the game, and he would
do it again because it's not like, hey boy, I
took you out early. Maybe you would have hit a shot,
maybe you didn't. Mentally, he was not the guy, not

(04:38):
in the place where he needed to be to play
that game, and he was hurting Saint John's. So yeah,
I took him out of the game. I guarantee if
you put a lot to touch up to him and
say should you have taken him out earlier? He would
say I should have taken him oout five minutes, or
I should it take about the ten minute mark of
the second half because things weren't going so well. So
I completely get why he took him out. This wasn't Patino,
who knows a thing or two about winning. This was

(04:58):
a Patino saying, hey, I took the guy out because
he's stuck he sucked. It's more than that. You don't
just take a player out, a great player because he
stinks there's something else there. And I guarantee, I guarantee
mentally stuff happened. He was seeing things or hearing things,
or there were conversations and Arjie Lewis was not where
he needed to be. So that's why he took him
out of the game.

Speaker 4 (05:17):
Yeah, I think when you go back through it, I mean,
we do the whole Supruter film. Let's watch his defensive efforts,
Let's watch his switching.

Speaker 1 (05:24):
Let's watch what he's doing when he doesn't have the ball.
Was he a ball stopper?

Speaker 4 (05:28):
He's three of seventeen, you know, he were the shots
he was taking normally makes when you're struggling.

Speaker 1 (05:35):
Should there have been an extra pass? Right? Five passes?
How many? Five? So?

Speaker 4 (05:42):
And when we talk about the portal again, I go
back to there's just a lot of money out there,
and maybe Saint John's they didn't want to commit to
what he's looking for philosophical differences with Patino. Maybe it
was untenable posts the five minute operation shut. But you know,
Patino's not gonna come back and say yeah, yeah, yeah,

(06:03):
I made a mistake.

Speaker 1 (06:04):
We should have gone the other No, it sent you home,
So yes, you have to stand by it, especially after
everybody got out of their way to shine you up
real nice and kiss your ass.

Speaker 2 (06:15):
You're not gonna suddenly say, boy.

Speaker 1 (06:18):
I really regret that, Like no, no, no, no, no, hey, you
all do that. We're, you know, jumping on board the
Church of Patino. Stay with me. Now, I get look
and I and look. It takes guts to make that call.
He doesn't want to bench his best player. But I
think Saint John's in that game. Things had gone so
well for them for so long. They faced zero adversity.

(06:38):
The second half of the season. They won basically all
their games, they won the Biggiaest Tournament, they had no trouble,
and then all of a sudden they get punched in
the mouth and mentally, nobody was where they needed to be.
Everybody played their worst game. Lewis played their worst game,
Darry Richmond didn't play well. None of them did, and
if they had maybe faced a little bit more adversity,
things would have been a little bit different. For Saint

(06:59):
John's right, So I get why he did it. Now
he brings up the Laytner play which I'm so glad
the most famous play in college basketball history, which he
was on the other side of. Back in the nineteen
ninety two Final four. With two and a half seconds
left to go, Kentucky is up by one in what
many people and maybe what I've seen as well as
the greatest college basketball game I've ever seen. They inbound

(07:19):
the ball the Laytner who gets a couple of dribbles
and makes the game winning shot. Now you heard Patino say,
I would have guarded the inbound again, right, if I
could do that again, because Grant Hill, who's got a
great arm, is able to throw the ball all the
way down to Christian Laytner, who catches it, takes that
dribble and hits the fade away right. And again you
saw tonight, and maybe you didn't, but you will. At
the end of the NIT game, the same situation. The

(07:42):
team Calirvine was down a point and they had to
get the ball all the way down court. They guarded
the inbounds, but a player was still able to throw
it all the way down. It was caught by their
center who dishes to the guard who's underneath all alone,
and he misses the layup and it's right, he's right there,
misses the layup and the and Eaters lose and Chattanooga wins,

(08:02):
and Too is running all over the plays going, oh,
we won, we won, we won. So yeah, I think
maybe putting the guy on the inbounds pass wasn't quite
the remedy to make that play go Kentucky's way, because
I'll tell you what, watching it a lot today because
after Patino did I went back and watched the play again.
I'm like, okay, you know what, We've said this for

(08:23):
twenty five years, thirty years, oh shout had a guy
in the inbounds play. But watch that play again and
watch Kentucky just sit back and allow the duke to
get not only to throw the ball in, but to
catch it and for Latner to get that shot away. Right,
this ball is thrown all the way down the floor
and Laytner catches it, and there's two defenders on him

(08:44):
and John Pelfrey, who is and you watch him on
this play and he's standing right next to Layightner. As
soon as Latner catches the ball, pelfree backs away and
puts his hands in the air like I'm not gonna
do anything, So I'm gonna allow Laytner to get that
dribble and turn and take a shot. And Kentucky and
Kentucky and generally just stood there and allowed Latner to

(09:04):
do it. And I know you don't want a foul,
but my goodness, man, you can't just stand there like
you like you're a scarecrow. And that's basically what Kentucky did.
They're like, well, we're gonna let him throw the ball
all the way down the court, and what do the
odds are they're gonna make the shot instead of being
just a little bit more aggressive and trying to stop
the ball or at least make it more difficult for
Laatener to get the shot off. Are you worried that

(09:25):
they're gonna call a foul? Yeah, but you're Kentucky. You're
not East Alcoa State upsetting Duke and ruining the final four.
You're Kentucky. I think you might get that call. I
think Riyah, but Cinderella would have been there, right, you
might get that call. But watching that play, I'm going no,
what it was was whatever you told them, whatever they did,
they just decided we're going to watch the ball come

(09:46):
in and let Laytner, catch it and take the shot.
That's what it was. And if you think I'm wrong,
think about this. In the last thirty five years, have
we ever seen that play work at the end of
the game where they throw the ball all the way
down down the floor and the guy is able to
catch it and dribble and get a clean shot off
with nobody in his face. Of course not because it
was such an epic defensive fail. You've not seen that again. Again,

(10:07):
we almost thought tonight, we've not seen that in thirty
five years. Right. There's a reason why you haven't seen
that because teams play defense and they know to deny
the ball. Where Kentucky just stood around watching, going, hey,
we made a big shot to take the lead. What
are the odds you can throw the ball down here
and win? Yeah? Guess what they did it? So yeah,
I see Patino. Hey, I would do things over again.
But that's what I would do it. Forget about guarding

(10:29):
the inbounds. It would be I would go after the ball.
I would not back away. I would make Latner make
a tough shot because not only does he get to
catch it, but he gets to dribble and head fake
and turn and shoot. I mean, come on, man, you
gotta do something to make that happen. This is the
part of the show where you explain the millennials who
Christian Lander is. Oh my god, you're right whole time,
I gotta explain.

Speaker 4 (10:50):
I mean, we'll see a lot of them over the weekend,
no question, yeah, Perc.

Speaker 1 (10:54):
Yeah, Duke's Championships, the montages of Leatner into you know,
indushesh Chefski into Gordon Hayward missing that shot at the buzzer, Yeah,
in the Cooper flag holding up the net. Yeah, Joe,
we'll see all of that this weekend.

Speaker 4 (11:09):
But nobody on the end bounder did Grant He'll get
a tryout, you know, either with a baseball team or
what was his pro day?

Speaker 1 (11:17):
Like, oh, man, with that kind of arm, I mean,
come on, let me give you a football see what
you can do, Grant. Let's let's go here. Although you know, hey,
Grant Hill had some injury issues the first like I
don't know, seven years of the league, so I don't
think football was really gonna be his calling. No, no, no,
he would have gotten hurt the first time, rounding first
with those ankles. So I'm telling you, yeah, I get it, Patino,

(11:41):
and I'm glad he brought it up. But yeah, that's
what it was. It's it's just this just I'm gonna
stand there and watch and watch the ball and watch
the playing. Wow, look at Duke make that play wonderful.
I can say for the rest of my life, I
was involved in this game, even though we lost late.

Speaker 4 (11:57):
Now, how many you will shine Laytner Patino photos you
think there are?

Speaker 1 (12:04):
I don't think. I don't think Patino would. I think
Patino would write blank you, Rick Patino, That's exactly what
he would write.

Speaker 4 (12:11):
Can I can I get him like a group sign
like I would love to go to a big show
where you've got Grant Hill and Latner and all the
other people that are in frame. But I mean, you
gotta get Patino to sign it with With the final
up there too, don't you.

Speaker 1 (12:25):
Exit out about a Fresca exit swallowing down this for you?
Rick Patino? Right call on r J lewis boy the defense? Yeah,
a little bit different. Coming up next, we got Rick
Bucker stopping by the latest news in the NBA and
we get in all over the Ja Moran controversy is
a big suspension coming that's next right here, Jason and
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Speaker 1 (14:18):
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Warriors lead the Lakers one oh five ninety five, just
under six minutes to go in the fourth quarter. For
more on this game and the big controversy in the NBA,
joining us now on the Hotline Fox Sports one NBA

(14:41):
Insider Extraordinaire. Also check out the On the Ball Podcast.
You find him on Twitter at Rick Buker. It is
Rick Buker. What's happening, Bud? How are you man?

Speaker 5 (14:52):
Hey? How are you man?

Speaker 2 (14:53):
Great?

Speaker 1 (14:54):
Well? I wish the Knicks could beat a good team.
But outside of that, you know, I'm okay.

Speaker 5 (14:58):
Well, we've we've already had this conversation.

Speaker 1 (15:06):
You said that, like like I'm your son, and I
did something like you said, hey, you know, don't don't
go into the cookie jar. And I went in the
cookie jar again, and you said, listen, we've already had
this conversation about going into the cookie.

Speaker 5 (15:18):
Jar exactly exactly. I mean, guy, you know, hey, if
you eat the whole box of cookies, you know you're
gonna put on five pounds.

Speaker 6 (15:26):
That's just what you know.

Speaker 5 (15:27):
It's kind of the way it works. And that's kind
of where the Knicks are right. They're they're not going
to be a good team. I mean, we had this
conversation before.

Speaker 1 (15:37):
You know.

Speaker 5 (15:37):
It's it's a little bit like you know what, when
you break curfew and you don't get home a time,
then you're you know, you're not going to get the
car the next time. That's the way it is.

Speaker 6 (15:46):
Okay, it's all right.

Speaker 1 (15:48):
I want you to know. You asked how I was doing,
and I told you, like, I mean, you're the one
that asked, so I told you I was I'm going
to tell you the truth all the time.

Speaker 5 (15:55):
Yeah, no, I appreciate that, but you're you're sort of
complaining about something that we've already established.

Speaker 6 (16:07):
You know, It's just.

Speaker 1 (16:08):
It's science, Rick, It's science, all right. So how about
speaking of something we've covered before?

Speaker 6 (16:13):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (16:14):
John Moran tonight, all right? A day after he was
warned about the finger gun gesture two suspensions for brandishing
a gun on social media, he gets off light. He decides,
I don't care, I'm gonna do the finger gun gesture
again tonight. Anyway, he does it a couple of times
in the game first quarter. He couldn't wait to do it.
Hits the game winning shot, like in a nutshell, Rick,
Like this is John Moran incredibly talented. But I don't

(16:37):
know how much longer the guy's going to be in
the league because he just doesn't seem to get it.
And I don't know that Adam Silver can't do anything
but suspend him after this, because John Moran has dared
him to do it after he got after he let
him off lightly earlier today.

Speaker 5 (16:50):
Yeah, I mean, I don't want to take any anything,
you know, I don't distract from John Morant. But if
you look at every thing that the Grizzlies organization has done.
I can't help but feel that, you know, the way
we thought about Jahn Morant when he came into the
NBA was not like this, Like we were talking about

(17:14):
him as potentially being the face of the league at
some point. He had the game and he had the personality,
and we didn't see any of you know, we didn't
see any of this behavior or just you know, stubborn.
I'm going to do what I want to do. And
I can't help but go back to the way the
Memphis Grizzlies handled everything from the beginning, which I think

(17:38):
is just a microcosm of the way that organization has operated.
And then you know, going to just recently the firing
of their coach, you know, with a big game against
the Lakers coming up, and with them in the midst
of trying to feel or secure home court advantage in
the playoffs. It's I can't help but feel like the

(18:01):
Grizzlies organization has a hand in what Jaw has become.
That there hasn't been any attempt to cultivate him as
a pro. And then if you don't do that, if
you if you just allow anything goes and then guys
get paid and they have they have financial security, well

(18:23):
then it's going to become even more difficult to get
guys in line. So I just I'm mystified. I'm mystified
that he would continue down this down this road considering
where the Grizzlies are and what they have at stake.
But on the other hand, I'm really not surprised, just
because I feel like, you know, the Grizzlies have created

(18:48):
a monster, and I don't know how you downsize at
this point.

Speaker 4 (18:53):
But now the door is open with Zion, shut down
this stuff with Jah Moran. Kobe White's going to be
the best guy from the twenty nineteen class Rick Buker,
what's that He's going to be the last man standing
as the best guy from what was supposed to be
the loaded twenty nineteen drafts.

Speaker 6 (19:10):
Yeah, yeah, no doubt.

Speaker 1 (19:13):
Rick Buker just crushed your world, Mike Harmon world. I'm
crushing That's what he did right there?

Speaker 4 (19:18):
What someone someone must rise from the abyss in truth?

Speaker 5 (19:24):
There is uh the your your mic or the way
I'm hearing your mic has a lot of static, and
so I actually didn't understand a word that you said.

Speaker 6 (19:36):
But I agree with you.

Speaker 1 (19:37):
Wow, Okay, then.

Speaker 5 (19:42):
I will always have your back, Mic no matter what.

Speaker 1 (19:44):
I appreciate you Rick, that is my guy. See I
like that. In other words, and I could say what
I want to say or and said, I'll just say
I didn't understand what you were saying. Let's move on.

Speaker 6 (19:54):
So you know what's weird.

Speaker 5 (19:55):
You know it's weird. And I can hear you clearly
like I.

Speaker 6 (19:57):
Don't know what that is.

Speaker 1 (19:59):
It's like, oh, you're okay.

Speaker 5 (20:01):
And if I had control over it, i'd slip it
around because I kind of you know, I don't have
to hear Jason to know what Jason is saying. That's
I know it's going to be about the Knicks, and
I know he's going to complain about where they are,
and you know I can just respond in time.

Speaker 1 (20:24):
Yeah, I'm the friends you don't need to talk to
to have a conversation with.

Speaker 5 (20:28):
Its exactly right, exactly right. Just send me the send
me the cliff notes.

Speaker 1 (20:32):
What do we what?

Speaker 5 (20:33):
What's the conversation about? Okay, Jason, I already know.

Speaker 6 (20:36):
I'll play the tape, play the tape from last time.

Speaker 1 (20:40):
We're good, all right, So look, so what what do
you think is going to be the outcome of the
finger gun tonight with with John Moran, because I mean,
I don't know how Adam Silver saves face unless it's
anything other than a suspension, because yeah, because he dared
him to do something he dared him to by doing
the finger guns.

Speaker 5 (20:59):
It has to be and the and this, and you
know you said it at the beginning. You know, I
felt I felt like he dodged uh being punished the
last time. And I and I can't help that. The
NBA feels as if like they really test them, they
see which way the wind's blowing. I feel as if

(21:19):
a lot of the response that the NBA has now
in terms of player decorum is how is it playing
in the public. If the public is outraged.

Speaker 6 (21:29):
Then we got to do something about it.

Speaker 5 (21:30):
And if they're not, then okay, let's let's see if
we can. Let's see if it'll die down by itself.
And but at this point, this is this is John
Morant going directly at the at the commissioner and saying
you can't control me. And Adam is not David Stern

(21:51):
by any means, but.

Speaker 6 (21:53):
I would.

Speaker 5 (21:55):
I just don't. I don't see why you. I don't
see why you do this at this point. I mean,
this is a critical part of the season, and you're
going to risk, You're going to dare the commissioner to
suspend you when your team needs you. At this point,
It's really hard for me to reconcile this jamrant with

(22:15):
the jamarant that I thought of just like two three
years ago. And that's why I'm struggling to answer it,
because it just it feels perfectly in character with the
guy we've seen the last year or two and perfectly
out of character with the guy that we first were
introduced to when he joined the NBA.

Speaker 1 (22:38):
Rick.

Speaker 4 (22:38):
We're watching the Warriors and Lakers finish things off here,
I either a real real threat up at the top there.
I mean, you're watching the Warriors getting some scoring from
beyond Steph.

Speaker 1 (22:49):
Yep.

Speaker 5 (22:50):
Yeah, It's an interesting dynamic. I do feel like the
Western Conference is really going to be about matchups. Who
you see and when you see them, they're all they
all have flaws I have. It's been intriguing for me
to watch this game and I'll see how how they close.
I felt like the Lakers size, even though they sort

(23:12):
of play small. When Jackson Hayes isn't on the floor,
but they're bigger. They can play bigger small ball with
Lebron and Ruey at the power positions and Luca playing
point forward and I and then I thought that was that,
and I think in a playoff series that would that

(23:34):
would win out. But then there's just there's always the
chemistry and the system that the Warriors play and they're
very smart. Unlike Houston and Memphis. Is that they've tried
to play as fast as possible, and that's what you
need to do. You need to make a Lakers play
transition defense because that is clearly one of their big weaknesses.

Speaker 1 (23:58):
FS one insider Rick Buker with us The Jason Smith
Show with Mike Carmen live from the Tirac dot Com Studios.
All right, so let's go out of the NBA here.
We have the final four coming up this weekend. I
know you got some bit on on the Ball podcast.
Been talking to Petpele about Cooper Flagg's NBA future. What
are you hearing comps with with Cooper Flag? Is he

(24:18):
definitely coming out? Is he going back to Duke?

Speaker 7 (24:20):
Like?

Speaker 1 (24:20):
What have you been hearing about Cooper Flag?

Speaker 2 (24:22):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (24:23):
I mean it's we hear this. I've heard this before
where guys are like, maybe I'll stay, and when you're
gonna be the number one pick, you know, at some
point you just reality hits in the face and you go,
I can't pass this up. So I don't have any
expectation that he's going to go and spend another year
in college. It would make no sense that if he
did that said that, you know, the comp that I've

(24:46):
heard that at first I wasn't really buying, but that
that I've kind of warmed too is Andre Kurerlenko, and
I think with a little more playmaking ability. I don't
see him as a like. I don't see him as
a generational or a guy that you like, is your

(25:07):
number one, build around the team, do everything I think
he can be. He can be your he can be
part of your core of a of a certainly a
playoff team, maybe even a championship team. He can do everything.
But and what I love about him is just his
competitive fire and that the fact that he can play

(25:29):
on the ball or off the ball. The reason that
I don't see him as being this like franchise type
player that you build around is I don't think he's
in one on one. And I think you've seen it
in the tournament, his ability to just hate guys one
on one. He he doesn't quite have that kind of

(25:51):
a game. And and so I think that that's that's
the one one element that he that leaves him short
of being a franchise player. But I can't wait to
see him play because I think, you know, we don't
have we don't have a lot of It feels like
we don't have a lot of high i Q bas

(26:13):
American born players at this point. We have, we have these.
He's not he's he's not an AAU type player. He
plays a much more elevated game than that. And uh,
and I think that's where we need to go, and
we need to develop more Cooper flags so that we
have a chance of continuing our reign in in international basketball.

Speaker 4 (26:36):
To that, and Rick, what did you think of the
commissioner talking about European leagues and interest them.

Speaker 5 (26:45):
Yeah, I mean, look, I've said this a couple of times.
I feel like, you know, everybody looks at NBA TV
ratings here and ticket sales and all that, and I
just get the I get the sense that the NBA
feels that they've tapped the market, the US market, and

(27:05):
that if they're going to have any growth, whether whether
it's revenue or anything else, it's going to have to
be internationally and globally. And that's I think that's what's
behind this, is that they're recognizing, you know what, we're
never going to beat the NFL in the US, but
there is a global appeal to our game, and why

(27:27):
don't we tap the fact that the best players in
the NBA right now are all international players. That only
makes sense. Let's build, you know, let's expand and and
let's let's create a footprint overseas.

Speaker 1 (27:43):
Yeah, Eric, I feel like we got lucky we got
the gold medal last year with Steph because now France
is going to win for the next like, you know,
three or four Olympics.

Speaker 5 (27:52):
I mean, you're you're not that far off it. I
don't know where we go. You know, who's who are
the players that we're going to count on, uh to
lead us somewhere internationally. I think you're I think you're
spot on. And it's and and maybe it needs to

(28:13):
happen for us to recognize that we need to start
developing players here in a different way than we have
the last ten fifteen years.

Speaker 1 (28:21):
He's on Twitter at Rick Buker. That is at Rick Buker.
Check out the On the Ball podcast as well. What
do you got Me? On the Wall podcast this week?

Speaker 6 (28:30):
What do we have if we get a squad shot
coming up? We need to talk about.

Speaker 5 (28:36):
Lebron James saying that he does not get a whistle.

Speaker 6 (28:43):
We've got some evidence that would suggest otherwise, Like he's
never been lower than in the top ten percent of
players in free throw attempts his entire career. A little
bit of that.

Speaker 5 (28:59):
The credit Lebron James will be will be a duticated Lake.

Speaker 1 (29:05):
Is on Rick Buker's Twitter page. At Rick Buker to
the On the Ball Podcast. There's your Lebron James debate,
Rickzooni's buddy. Appreciate it man. We'll talk to you next week.

Speaker 5 (29:13):
You got it?

Speaker 1 (29:14):
Si Joe? Right now? Quick up to date, thirty seven
seconds left to go. The Warriors lead the Lakers one
nineteen one thirteen. The Warriors get The Warriors miss at
their end and going in for a layup. Luka Doncic
gets stripped by Draymond Green, who howls immediately uh Steph

(29:36):
Curry gets fouled, is at the free throw line to shoot.
Now the Lakers could have cut it to four with
a lot of time left. Now it looks like this
lead is gonna go up to eight again. Luca is
stripped underneath the basket going in for a layup. Uh
more on this game and the rest of the night
in the NBA. From someone who bet on Luka Doncic
to hit a lamp in the final minute of the game,

(29:56):
I would have been shocking, She's gonna lose that bet.
It's mante blagyo, what's trending.

Speaker 7 (30:00):
I would have been so bad if I did place
that bad. And you know what, Luca tends to flop
and complain a lot. He didn't even say anything after
he was stripped of that because it was.

Speaker 2 (30:09):
Clean before that.

Speaker 7 (30:11):
It felt like a three point shooting contest the way
there were exchanging threes between Steph Curry, Brandon Pajemski and
if I said that right and Austin Reeves just back
and forth threes between the two teams. But like you said,
at thirty seven seconds, Warriors up one twenty one to
one thirteen.

Speaker 2 (30:28):
Curry has thirty five points.

Speaker 7 (30:30):
I believe he is the leading scorer Lebron James's thirty
three points for La Luka Doncic six of seventeen for
nineteen points. He does have eight rebounds and seven assists
to go with that. Jimmy Butler only four of seven
eleven points and four rebounds to assist, and the Warriors
are up. Janni Santetekoumpo did become the first player with
this stat line today thirty five points, seventeen rebounds and

(30:52):
twelve assists as the Bucks top the seventy six Ers
one twenty five to one thirteen. Philadelphia is shutting down
guard Tyres Maxi for the rest of the season with
a finger injury. Pallo Bancaro also had thirty three points
and eighteen rebounds as the Magic beat the Wizards one
on nine to ninety seven. And how about this Nick Scard.
Jalen Brunson will practice tomorrow Friday. He has a chance

(31:13):
to return from his ankle injury on Saturday as they
take on the Hawks in Major League Baseball. The Dodgers
did place first baseman Freddie Freeman on the injured list
due to that ankle spraying retroactive to March thirty.

Speaker 1 (31:25):
First.

Speaker 7 (31:25):
Aaron Judge had a three run of homer today as
the Yankees outscored the Diamondbacks nine to seven to avoid
the sweep, while the Brewers shut out the Reds one zero.
Cincinnati has been shut out for the last three games.
On the ice, The Oilers still on top of the
Sharks three to two early in the third period, while
the Jets hey. The Jets shut out the Golden Knights
for zero. That's the final score. Jets improved to fifty two,

(31:48):
twenty and four on the season.

Speaker 2 (31:51):
Back to you.

Speaker 1 (31:51):
Guys, thanks a bunch Monsei, yep boy. A lot of
drama and a lot of sloppy play in the last
thirty seconds of this is Warriors Lateers game. Warriors trying
to kill the clock. They're up five. Lebron steals the
ball in the back court, but then Luca and a
couple of the Lakers look like they don't know who's
gonna grab the loose ball. Yeah, and it winds up

(32:14):
going to the Warriors. Steph is going back to the
free throw libs again. A five point lead for the Warriors. Lakers.
They could have cut it to three with about twenty
seconds left to go. Wow. Not a not a great
last forty five seconds for Luka Doncics. That's for sure.
Coming up next, we head to the NFL, where I

(32:34):
am going to give incredible amounts of credit to a
team I never give credit to. That's next, right, What
did they do today? Something incredibly smart? The Jaguars. That's
not the Come on, man, come on, come on. That's
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Speaker 4 (34:39):
But I can't stop thinking when he plays that drop
about the bushwhackers.

Speaker 1 (34:47):
Right, Oh, no, you're absolutely right, you're a oh and
wait till I tell I gotta tell you guys next
hour about the the final question in trivia last night
that my wife had, I got your your farm and
you're gonna flip for it. We'll do it. We'll do
it next hour. That's good. So, look, some big stuff
out of the NFL today. Well we'll get to a
big bold prediction for one quarterback looking for work in

(35:08):
about fifteen minutes. But the Cowboys did something today that
was brilliant, And you know, I think it's the truth
because I don't give the Cowboys credit for a lot
because rarely do I agree with what they're doing or
do I think they know what they're doing overall in
the big picture. But they went out today and traded
for Joe Milton from the Patriots. Right, give up a

(35:28):
fifth and seventh round pick for a guy who was
getting a lot of heat over the course of the
past few months. Joe Milton's incredibly talented started his career
at Michigan, was terrific at Tennessee. You see him throw
the football and you think, may this may be one
of those guys that after a couple of years in
the league gets a chance and hits it big. Right,
There was a lot of interest in him, but the
Patriots have Drake May. You can't have another up and

(35:50):
coming guy in the team. And Drake May ac quitted
himself pretty well, so they make the move get a
fifth and seventh round pick for him. Awesome. This is
why this is brilliant. And right away you saw the
comparisons on social media. Well, at least the Cowboys didn't
give up a fourth like they did for Trey Lance.
What a ridiculously bad move that was. That was brilliant

(36:11):
as well because this and I'll tell you why because
it's radio. I'm not just gonna say not to explain
it to you. If I said to you, you give
a fourth round pick to another team, just gotta give
a fourth round pick? What am I getting back? You're
not getting anything back. But if you give a fourth
round pick to another team, your quarterback's gonna go for
four thousand yards and thirty five touchdowns. Every team would say,

(36:34):
who do I have to give that fourth round pick to?
I would drive the pick to Mike McDaniel myself to
say Hey, Mike Jason Smith, Jets fan, I'm even wearing
the pants you like to wear. Here's a fourth round
pick because I know now Justin Field is going for
four k and thirty five touchdowns. When the Cowboys went
out and got Trey Lance, they didn't get Trey Lance
to come in and take the job from Dak Prescott.

(36:56):
They went out and got him after Dak Prescott had
a bad twenty twenty time, and the Cowboys said, Okay,
we've given Dak Prescott the job the last few years.
Maybe he's plateauing a little bit. We gotta give him
a little bit of impetus. You gotta we gotta turn
the screws on a little bit and pressure him to
know that, Hey, we ask somebody that can take your
job if you don't continue to ascend. So getting Trey

(37:16):
Lance with the former first round pick from number three
overall pick, the pedigree there, Hey, potentially we could go
to him if you stink all right, just so you know,
we're making moves at quarterback. And what happened. Dak Prescott
had his best season ever in twenty twenty three. Horrible playoff,
but regular season he was terrific. Now he got hurt
last year, missed a lot of time, and Trey Lance

(37:37):
is gone. They're not gonna bring him back. He's probably
gonna play in the CFL. Cooper Rush is gone. So
the Cowboys needed a backup quarterback. So what did they do?
They went out and got a guy who's in the
same mold as Trey Lance, maybe even a little bit
more of a threat of hey, hey, we could go
to him, you know, just so you know, you gotta
keep going for us here Dak Prescott. And that's why
this is brilliant. They put a little bit of pressure

(37:59):
on Dak Prescott by getting Trey Lance, just having him
be there, and Dak Prescott gave you his big year, right.
The Packers went outdrafted Jordan Love. What did Aaron Rodgers
do for two years? NFL MVP? Right now, here's the
Cowboys going, we got to do it again. They go
out and get a guy to make sure the pressure
is still on Dak Prescott, and that's worth it. It's
a brilliant move because you have to take care of

(38:20):
your quarterback position number one overall, and if you're ensuring
that Dak's gonna still go at a high level and
not rest on his laurels at all or not realize
I got paid, I'm never gonna get paid again. This
is the move that's going to do it. This was
brilliant by the Cowboys to keep Dak Prescott in that
mode of continuing to advance because you saw it work
with Trey Lance, and now we're gonna try to make

(38:40):
it work with Joe Milton.

Speaker 4 (38:42):
Well, always trying to spur on performance for one, when
you're not gonna spend money elsewhere in free agency, you
go back to the well here and maybe for Dak
Prescott coming off of what was the subpar half season
before he got hurt Jason Ryan, I mean he was
eleven touchdowns, eight picks, uh and the offense sputtering. Now
part of that was personnel. We'll see what else they

(39:05):
have up their sleeve to try to augment that, because
certainly you took a huge step backward, uh from what
you've been in the past. No, no semblance of balanced
definition and grasping its straws, particularly the running back and
secondary receiving slots. But for for Prescott, for Milton, yeah,

(39:25):
you do the dollar cost averaging. There's there's not a
lot being lost here. Uh, Drake may is clearly the
guy with with great acumen. Uh, they're an opportunity in
New England. So you shuffle off, grab a couple more
assets to build the.

Speaker 1 (39:41):
Rest of that roster.

Speaker 4 (39:42):
Meanwhile, Dallas might have gotten a guy that we we
watched him flash a few times in college. Uh, and
perhaps becomes your guy of the future. You got a
couple more years of Dak's contract before he you have
the easy out. But certainly if if Milton flashes for
the squad, you maybe accelerate those terms as well.

Speaker 1 (40:04):
Yeah. Look, and here's the other part of it, because
it's not just about that. It's a couple of things.
They also got Milton because the Cowboys know they need
a backup that might have to play. Sure, it's baby.
Two of the last three years, Dak Prescott has missed
big chunks of the season with injuries. Right, So it's
not like a, well we'll get whoever are No, you
got Dak missing missing you know, seven games three years ago,

(40:27):
missing half the season this year. So hey, two of
the last three years you've had. Hey, when we don't
have a quarterback, it's miserable. So that's the other reason
they want it because maybe Joe Milton has to play.
We like his skill set. It's similar to what Dak
can do. So that's the second reason, I mean, the
main reason they got, Hey, we want to make sure Dak.
We're pushing Dak as far as we can, and he's

(40:47):
gonna continue to be a Pro Bowl type quarterback and
maybe lead us where he hasn't led us so far.
But the other part really is where they say, hey,
you know what, we need a guy that can play.
I mean, we really, we really need a guy because, hey,
two of the l whether you talk about it being
a freak injury or not, or he's getting injury prone,
two out of three years, you missed a big chunk
of the season. You gotta have a guy that can
go in and play. And losing Cooper Rush that was

(41:08):
the push to go get Joe Milton. Yeah, go take
your shot.

Speaker 4 (41:12):
Look at the future, and certainly Joe Milton's name if
nothing else improves. Jerry Jones is reading a lot of blogs,
He and Steven and whatever executive team, a lot of
folks going after Joe Milton. Maybe we should get in
on this.

Speaker 2 (41:24):
Joe Milton rocket. Joe Milton.

Speaker 1 (41:27):
I saw this guy. Let's let's go get him.

Speaker 2 (41:30):
Let's go get I.

Speaker 1 (41:31):
Saw Milton Bradley, Let's go get him. I like playing
the playing the monopoly and the parcheesy. So let's go
get Oh Joe Miller, Oh, oh got okay?

Speaker 2 (41:39):
Jason Rocket, Joe Milton.

Speaker 1 (41:41):
Rocket, Rocket, Joe Bilt. Sorry, rocket, Joe Bilt. We're gonna
go get him. Let's go get him, Steven, make it happen.
That's probably exactly how it went. That's probably exactly how it.

Speaker 4 (41:53):
All I'm hearing is Joe Milton, Joe Milton, football, Joe Milton.

Speaker 1 (41:57):
All I'm here in is Ken Phelps, Ken Phelps, get
head Phelps the best home run to at baton ratio
in MLB history. You don't know what the hell you're doing.
How could you trade j Poner? He's got a rocket
for it on. We bring it back full circle from
rocket Joe Milton to rocket for it on j Pun
Coming up next, how about a big NFL Bowl prediction

(42:19):
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