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Jason and Mike tell you how the top three picks of the NFL Draft SHOULD go. Plus why Jason is taking Duke to cut down the nets on Natty Monday.

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Speaker 3 (00:50):
Well.

Speaker 1 (00:50):
Yeah, still a quarter left to go in the final
Final four game for the women, and you is all
but a shorter trip to face off against South Carolina
for the national title on Sunday.

Speaker 3 (01:06):
They had a twenty point lead at halftime.

Speaker 1 (01:08):
It is a twenty four point lead for Yukon over
UCLA right now as there are fifteen seconds left before.

Speaker 3 (01:15):
We start the fourth quarter.

Speaker 1 (01:16):
It has just been an absolute burial by Yukon from
the jump, and it's stunning because this is a UCLA
team that ran rough shot over everybody over the course
of the season. The only team they lost to was
USC twice. Everybody was upset about seatings going into the tournament,
but so far it has just been everything Yukon from
the beginning of the game, and they will go to

(01:37):
the fourth quarter with a twenty three point lead over UCLA.

Speaker 4 (01:41):
That's why Gino had his long, extended post first quarter interview.

Speaker 5 (01:48):
He knew what the score would be.

Speaker 4 (01:50):
He is already looking at it going licking his chops,
especially the number of turnovers they caused in that first quarter.

Speaker 5 (01:56):
Yeah, he's been on easy Street the whole way.

Speaker 1 (01:59):
Now, I will say, hey, look, it's tough. You know
you and I living in Los Angeles here. Ucla the
women's team. Both women's teams were incredible stories this year.
Right and obviously SHORSC which would have been a heavy
favorite to win it all. Juju Watkins gets hurt, missus
the tournament, they get knocked out. We're getting the championship
game that the entire country wants to see. You have

(02:20):
Dawn Staley and a South Carolina team she's going for
four to zero in championship games. They're in the final
four six out of the last seven years. Here they
are they roll over. They lost Camilla Cardoso last year,
doesn't matter. They have a lot of players back from
a year ago. And here's Yukon back where they had
been their birthright, the undefeated team that really birthed this

(02:41):
era of women's college basketball back in ninety five. Here
they are back with his best player that he's had
since then in Page Beckers. And this is the game
that's got the most appeal across the country. And then
you're gonna see incredible numbers for this game people tuning
in on Sunday.

Speaker 4 (02:56):
Well, I mean we had some of those the women
players on during the final four and championship games of
years past. It seems like a long time ago when
we talked to Brianna Stewart when they were winning.

Speaker 5 (03:07):
Oh yeah, when they finished the job.

Speaker 4 (03:08):
Right for Geno Oriama, it's been almost a decade, right,
so now it's time to go in and fight to
get the crown. But it's exactly what we anticipated and
wanted to see, right, here's two of your big stars,
much like on the men's side. We've always watched the
players cycle through, and occasionally we gravi it to take

(03:30):
towards someone, like we did with Cooper Flag, but it's
usually been about aren't the coaches? Why did we get
a lot of run for caliberry? Why are we talking
about you know, Kelvin Sampson and Bruce Pearl and Shier
taking the reins from coach k and making it here.
It's it's the coaches keep the line moving and for
down Staley and Geno Oriamma, they stirred the drink. So

(03:53):
the extra couple of days of media availability ought to
be a lot of fun.

Speaker 1 (03:57):
Yeah, this is I'll tell you what that's gonna be.
A hey, look, Sunday turned into a day where wait
a minute, wait a minute, we got national champion, we
got Alex Ovechkin, maybe breaking Gretzky's record. Suddenly Sunday is
like whoa, whoa, whoa man, it's a big day on Sunday.

Speaker 4 (04:10):
Well, I'll get it all started here nine to eleven,
me and Byer here on Fox Sports Radio nine to
eleven Pacific, of course, leading into some record breaking days.

Speaker 5 (04:18):
Here we go, oh, here we go.

Speaker 3 (04:20):
I mean that's suddenly Sundays like it's a big day.
We got a big day.

Speaker 4 (04:23):
Well, and then we come back on Monday and it'll
be a championship night. I've confirmed Tyshert will be in
the chair.

Speaker 1 (04:29):
No, come, yeah, this will be the first national championship
game at either sport. Tyshirt has worked in maybe five years.
You're really working Monday, Tyshirt.

Speaker 6 (04:39):
Jason, if you keep that attitude.

Speaker 3 (04:40):
Up, Okay, okay, but right now you are you?

Speaker 1 (04:43):
I mean really, because I really I have to talk
to the bosses and go how is Alex Tycher not
working on the nights in the national championship in college football?
In college basketball?

Speaker 3 (04:51):
How is he not here? How is he not?

Speaker 6 (04:54):
I don't know why?

Speaker 5 (04:55):
Science you go ahead.

Speaker 6 (04:56):
Yeah, after you work somewhere for a decade, you get
like new better ways life. I think it's called no,
I get that.

Speaker 1 (05:02):
But like these these are big days, you know, I mean,
when you're when you're a parent, you.

Speaker 3 (05:06):
Know, and all of a sudden, you know.

Speaker 1 (05:07):
Hey, I've I've gone really heard and heavy for a
lot of Christmases.

Speaker 3 (05:10):
I'm taking this one off.

Speaker 1 (05:11):
But the kids want christ but the children love the books,
but the kids love Christmas. I'm sorry you figure out Christmas.
Your honey, I'm going to Vegas. I'm done, I'm out.
I'm sorry. I can't be here for Chris. It's a
big day on Monday. The National Championship Games are big days.

Speaker 6 (05:27):
It's chalk madness.

Speaker 1 (05:28):
Now, it's sound where did you hear that phrase? Because
you got garant.

Speaker 6 (05:35):
It's the madness of the chalk.

Speaker 3 (05:37):
Someone's gonna take that though.

Speaker 1 (05:38):
It's it's chalk madis because it's all the one seeds
that are written now it's not really And then.

Speaker 4 (05:43):
You walk up and you scratch it like the chalkboard
if you're if you're quit in jaws.

Speaker 3 (05:49):
Okay, all right, just I mean that was.

Speaker 5 (05:51):
A head tail, the whole damn fish.

Speaker 1 (05:53):
I'm saying that was a pretty good thing to come
up with there, Tycher. Because chalk madness, I think could
be a thing that someone writes a big article about
her talks about. Like, let's use it on the show
us the thing chalk madness. Man, it's choco madison. We
don't like the upsets. We just we just want the ones.
In the end, it's gonna be the ones. Chalk madness.
So like that, chalk madness.

Speaker 3 (06:11):
Like that, Okay, uh.

Speaker 5 (06:13):
That's almost the chocolate madness.

Speaker 3 (06:15):
Yeah, hey, oh chocolate madness. Good.

Speaker 1 (06:21):
You know there's a place near where I live called
Chocolate Bash, and I'm like, let's go to Chocolate Bash.

Speaker 3 (06:27):
Why what's there? It's called Chocolate Be.

Speaker 5 (06:29):
That should be.

Speaker 4 (06:29):
That should be the party that we put together for
New Year's Eve. Come hey out with DJ Alex ty Shirt,
Carmon and Smith and Chocolate Bash six.

Speaker 3 (06:41):
It's anything you could possibly want.

Speaker 1 (06:43):
Chocolate like is like pancakes and waffles and drinks, all
of my god, chocolate Bashes.

Speaker 4 (06:48):
How do we get the animated like little robotic dogs
that Pele can pick up and take a bite out
of like their homer.

Speaker 1 (06:54):
No in Zeeland of chocolate. So we'll got more college
basketball coming up in a bit. And again, Mike and
I are going to give you our picture this weekend
for the men's tournament. But we were talking about Shador
Sanders few minutes ago had his pro day. He and
Travis Hunter both had their pro days and today in
Colorado and Shador Sanders pro day on the field went terrifically.

Speaker 3 (07:16):
Right.

Speaker 1 (07:17):
The guy's a great quarterback, right, He's got the arm strength,
he's got the moxie, he's got the knowledge, he's got
everything you want, and.

Speaker 3 (07:23):
He is tough man. He is ted.

Speaker 1 (07:25):
The one thing you have they haven't talked about him
enough is how tough he is on the field, the
hits he takes, standing in the pocket, going to get
first downs. He is bleeping tough. But he's sliding through
the draft. According to a lot of people, Hey, we
can see this happening, and these our pundits who wind
up talking to people that maybe Shador Sanders makes his

(07:47):
way out of the top three, right, and likely Travis
Hunter isn't. Cam Ward's going to be in the top three,
But Shador Sanders might make his way out of the
top three because he hasn't given everybody great optics over
the course of the past couple month since the combine,
and you go back to the middle of last year
when he blamed his offensive line for why he didn't have.

Speaker 3 (08:05):
A great day.

Speaker 1 (08:06):
You need to make sure that teams feel good about
drafting you when you're a quarterback, because it's more than
just hey, here's a guy coming in with an attitude.

Speaker 3 (08:15):
I'll that's fine.

Speaker 1 (08:16):
From a running back and a wide receiver or an
edge rusher or a shutdown corner, that's fine, But a
quarterback it's a little different.

Speaker 3 (08:23):
Man.

Speaker 1 (08:24):
It's we want to know that you have the responsibility
the ability to lead. You are going to be the
face of this franchise, right, a face of this franchise.
And I know you say, oh, I like the guys
that say that, say oh, I could take on the world.
That's not what I'm saying. There's plenty of guys that
always say I want to take on the world. But
I want to know that you have the responsibility to
take the shoulder that you can shoulder losing and you

(08:45):
can be able to still lead through adverse circumstance. It's
not about just having the Baker Mayfield swag that Hey,
I'm great, I'm great, look at me, look at that. No,
it's about being able to be to have that ability
to not just throw football, but to be able to
lead as well.

Speaker 4 (09:02):
No, but that's the thing, right is at this point
outside and look, it's no small thing the calling out
of the offensive line because a lot of those sacks
are on him, much like anybody that went out of
their way to you know, jump up on a soapbox
to defend Caleb Williams in his sack.

Speaker 5 (09:21):
Total for the Bears this year, A lot of.

Speaker 3 (09:23):
Those are on him.

Speaker 4 (09:24):
And that's not to say the line is good in
any way, shape or form. But part of that pie
is the decision making you're making as a quarterback. So
I think that would be the one piece I would
push on. And that's where we we got so rudely
cut off by you know, the we are well well,
I mean, he can't change time. I mean she doesn't

(09:45):
have the timestone. As much as I wish he did.
I think he wanted to say something there.

Speaker 1 (09:52):
You see the pictures that we put up when when hey,
Fox Sports Radio was hiring the pictures of tysan Is,
It's of Tysher looking majestic in the room and in
front of all the buttons.

Speaker 3 (10:02):
He could do stuff like that. Man, he chooses not to.

Speaker 5 (10:06):
Well, but that's that's his choice, that's his power.

Speaker 3 (10:08):
Chooses.

Speaker 6 (10:09):
Well, Jason, I haven't seen a reason to go back
yet or forward.

Speaker 1 (10:13):
Really, there's nothing that's happened in all of history that
you would like to go back and change.

Speaker 3 (10:16):
Everything is fine. I kind of like to.

Speaker 6 (10:18):
Where it's gone. I want to see where it ends,
really feel it right now.

Speaker 3 (10:21):
But there's nothing that you would change. I think there's
a few things I would change.

Speaker 1 (10:25):
Really yeah, nah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you know what I
go back and change first overall. Number one thing I
would change Jerry's familia is flipping quick pitch to in
the in ninth inning of Game one.

Speaker 3 (10:36):
Of the World Series Alex Gordon.

Speaker 1 (10:38):
I would change that in a in a second, I
would change that. Yeah, I'd say, hey, don't quick pitch it,
just throw it regular.

Speaker 4 (10:44):
Would you have Aaron Judge catch the ball to Vex Frostburg?

Speaker 1 (10:47):
No, I would not know. Oh no, no, I guar
I'd make garage Jude. No, I'd leave that World Series
exactly as it was.

Speaker 3 (10:55):
That was fantastic.

Speaker 4 (10:56):
No, I would leave that under strained with you and
Wald for a there all of it to say, this
is where I was getting to, was the the idea
of the any rip with the offensive line there. But
I haven't heard a bunch of teammates coming out and
bashing him, either in person or anonymously.

Speaker 3 (11:15):
Right.

Speaker 4 (11:16):
It's kind of the litmus test we have with with
Aaron Rodgers, how much how much noise versus you know.

Speaker 5 (11:21):
Do you guys actually still like him? And if one guy.

Speaker 1 (11:24):
Though, because it's who's is, who's the coach, the coaches
his dad.

Speaker 3 (11:29):
You don't get any We've seen stories ye.

Speaker 4 (11:31):
Quickly kick guys out before they might be halfway out
the cross country.

Speaker 1 (11:36):
Anyway, he's he's not afraid to boot people out. You
think people are gonna step out and even anonymously say hey, yeah,
Shador is this kind of guy or this kind of lead. No,
that's not happened in the Colorado program. Man, that's not
happening unless you unless you want out, that's not happening.

Speaker 2 (11:51):
No.

Speaker 4 (11:51):
I I'd like to think some of those guys would
stand up on it. And again, you can do it anonymously.
There's plenty of folks that would love your quote. Operate
are standing by. But for Shador Sanders like he showed,
the toughness, he showed, all of the arm strength, all
of those things. You check all these boxes. And in
the end, the NFL is ruled by the quarterback position,

(12:14):
so desperation comes in. So while it may not be Cleveland,
may not be the New York Football Giants. I don't
think he's drifting. I don't think we're suddenly sitting there
where it's an Aaron Rodgers end of first first round
where he's lonely sitting at the table and you start
joking with what should be on your playlist to accompany
sad Aaron Rodgers face in the green room. No chador

(12:38):
will go off the board pretty fast, I'd like to think.

Speaker 1 (12:42):
So, I'd like to think when it comes down to it,
people are gonna get a little uh, I'm gonna get
a little nervese say well, the quarterbacks there, I gotta
take him because look, what have I told you? I
think you have to take him, because this is where
you get the you know, a quarterback's a gut field.
But you also take a little bit of a risk
because you don't know how a guy is gonna pan
out util you really see him, put him up, or
what's what really is there?

Speaker 3 (13:02):
Next year?

Speaker 4 (13:03):
Right now the arch ar arch may not come out,
and you know what, arch may not be any good.

Speaker 5 (13:09):
Now. We as betting people, we take.

Speaker 4 (13:11):
All the preponderance of evidence for the Manning family, even
the comedic stylings of Kupper as member of our Fox family.

Speaker 5 (13:19):
I mean, there's a lot of talent going on there.

Speaker 1 (13:21):
You can't wait, you can't wait, and to say, oh,
I'll just get one next year, like, what do you
What do you mean you're gonna try to get one
next year when you have no idea how it's gonna go,
how your team is gonna play, what the quarterback's gonna
be like?

Speaker 3 (13:32):
Coming out? Who's coming out? Suddenly you think there's there's
gonna be eight guys. Oh, we're gonna stink them. There's
gonna be eight.

Speaker 4 (13:37):
Guys were in seven games by accident?

Speaker 3 (13:40):
What happens?

Speaker 1 (13:42):
The right thing would be, Honestly, the right thing would
be cam Ward won, and then Shador Sanders two, Travis
Hunter three. That's the way, that's the way it should go.
The Titans need a quarterback. They love cam Ward. Yeah,
I'm all in on cam Ward. Cam Ward is fantastic,
right all? With him a number one and the Browns
at number two, they should take Shador. Say you need

(14:03):
a quarterback who knows when you're gonna get a chance
to draft this high to get the second best quarterback
coming out of college. Again, it's too much of a risk,
so you take him. Now the Giants, Okay, well we
needed a guy, we didn't get him. It's too early
for Jackson Dart. We'll go gil get Travis Hunter, who
will be our superstar. Right, he's cobaly, good to play offense,
gonna play defense, He's gonna give us an identity. That's

(14:25):
a pretty good consolation prize. Then the rest of the
draft can go from there. Abdul Carter at four. But
those should be your top three picks. If if everything
is fair and everything is right, and you're taking the
pick and teams are picking who they should be picking,
that's the way it should go.

Speaker 4 (14:38):
Yeah, as you're sitting here now, the assumption that cam
Ward's off the board. Abdul Carter currently the favorite for
the Browns, with Shador second at plus seven hundred.

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posted right after we get off the air. Well, it
is mercifully just about over in the final. With its
final four game of the night under five minutes left
to go, Yukon is thumping UCLA seventy two to forty
three Page Beckers with sixteen points. Not the high score
though Sarah Strong another big game for her, as Yukon

(17:11):
has been dominant from the jump. They will be on
to the championship game on Sunday against South Carolina. So
congratulations once again to Gino Oriema, who at this point
shouldn't be upset about the seating. I don't think anybody
should be upset about the seating anymore.

Speaker 5 (17:28):
Well, I mean they were a number two, that's true.

Speaker 4 (17:31):
Yeah, there's salty right now, Live betting minus twenty seven
and a half.

Speaker 1 (17:39):
That would mean UCLA would have to they would have
to beat Yukon by two points the rest of the way.
I you know, I cause I think Yukon's gonna they'll
pull They'll pull their players out. I could see that. Yeah,
They'll they'll pull everybody out. I could see it happening.
There you go, one hundred percent.

Speaker 3 (17:55):
Yeah, I could see that going on. So again, Yukon
up seven with under five.

Speaker 5 (18:01):
Jason, when you give the scores, you're forgetting one thing.

Speaker 1 (18:04):
I'm sorry, USC without Juju Watkins not in this game?

Speaker 3 (18:08):
Correct, Okay, very good? Want to make sure I have okay,
very good?

Speaker 5 (18:11):
Yeah you got that.

Speaker 4 (18:12):
I mean we got the Lakers playing, the Clippers are playing.
I mean, we've got a lot of activity going on here.

Speaker 3 (18:17):
So I we'll get to those games coming up in
a bit.

Speaker 1 (18:20):
But tomorrow, obviously we get Chalk Madness, which I coined
earlier this hour here.

Speaker 3 (18:25):
That show. I just came up with it just out
of the blue.

Speaker 5 (18:28):
Yeah, you just picked off the air.

Speaker 3 (18:31):
Yeah, Chalk madness just in my head like a chalk.

Speaker 5 (18:33):
Mad It was the front page of the New York
Post last night.

Speaker 1 (18:36):
Oh it was really No, I'm good.

Speaker 5 (18:40):
That's not snarky enough.

Speaker 1 (18:41):
I thought to myself, tyster's not reading the New York Post.
Come on, man, it's not happening. We get both games tomorrow,
all four number one seeds Florida Auburn at three o'clock,
and then at five forty five, six o'clock we get
Houston and Duke Florida Auburn.

Speaker 3 (18:56):
I mean, terrific matchup.

Speaker 1 (18:57):
You have two of the best players in the country
that carried their teams all the way through. Houston and
Duke obviously is the marquee matchup anything involving Cooper Flag
who really this NCAA tournament has been about.

Speaker 3 (19:08):
It's been about two things.

Speaker 1 (19:09):
It was about Saint John's in Arkansas, and it's about
Cooper Flag and Duke. And I know that there's a
lot of there, there's a lot of big time basketball
pundits who really want to get into detail about Houston
beating Duke tomorrow. Houston's defense is really good, Yes, we

(19:30):
understand this.

Speaker 5 (19:30):
You're thirty eight point shooting for opponents during the season.

Speaker 1 (19:34):
Yeah, they're terrific. Houston is a is A is a
terrific team, terrific defensively.

Speaker 5 (19:38):
Oh wait, dude, Duke only gives up thirty eight point five.

Speaker 3 (19:41):
Yeah, here's the other thing. And it's the other part.

Speaker 1 (19:43):
Yeah, Duke is also one of the top three defenses
in the country. Like when I picked my my final four,
I mean, look, defense is a big thing that travels
and carries in the NCAA tournament, And and Saint John's
and Duke and Houston, these were all teams in the
top four. Right again, Saint John's on my never again
list because they screwed me. But it's not like you.
It's it's not like they have a terrible defense. Their

(20:05):
defense is right there. And the thing is is that
I understand they're gonna go to the wall to stop
Cooper flag. They're gonna be physical with him, They're gonna
try to shut him down. And there's two things that
that are that make me just ignore that and say,
Duke is gonna win this game by double digits.

Speaker 3 (20:22):
Number one is hey.

Speaker 1 (20:24):
And this is kind of an if, but it really
depends on how the game is called, right, because Houston's
hallmark is defense, and it's they're not known for. Hey,
we're gonna go out there and absolutely light it up there.
If their defense isn't working, they're gonna struggle. And how
is that game gonna be called?

Speaker 3 (20:40):
Right?

Speaker 1 (20:40):
How are they gonna be able to play defense like
they normally do? And now it's Duke with a birth
of the national Championship game on the line. Second thing
is this, Duke is the best team in the country.
It's like people have forgotten that. Oh but they're young
and Houston is older. Yeah, yeah, a in a year
which we're celebrating Carmelo Anthony so much. Oh, by the way,
the guy led Seeres to a title as a freshman

(21:01):
and that was twenty some odd years ago. Okay, people
are forgetting just how good Duke is and just all
the other great players Duke has, and how Duke was
still winning the ACC tournament and winning without Cooper Flag
who missed games be after getting hurt.

Speaker 5 (21:15):
They also play all years.

Speaker 1 (21:17):
It's fantastic they played the ACC, which is better than
you think it is.

Speaker 3 (21:21):
Waitl Syracuse gets in there next year.

Speaker 1 (21:23):
They got a big transfer. Today, Duke is the best
team in the country. They're the most talented team in
the country. If yes, could they could I see them
shutting down Cooper Flag one hundred percent. I can see
Cooper Flag with a game where, hey, maybe not his best,
maybe Cooper Flag's twelve points.

Speaker 3 (21:39):
Maybe shooting three for ten.

Speaker 1 (21:40):
But it's not like Duke doesn't have the other guys
that can fill the basket and be able to take
on a big burden. Right, they have great players. They
have guys that can do this Proctor, I mean James.
They have guys can step up and make big shots.
All these guys make threes, right, All these guys that
the top four guys on Duke all shoot forty percent.

Speaker 3 (21:58):
From behind the arc.

Speaker 1 (22:00):
It's not like it's Cooper Flag and nobody. Like there's
a reason why this Duke team is where it is,
why they're so good, Like, yes, they'll be able to
find a way if if Houston is is absolutely bent
on shutting Cooper Flag down, because yes, you have to,
he is the best player in the country, I understand this.

Speaker 3 (22:18):
But it's not like it's it's.

Speaker 1 (22:19):
Cooper and the Miracles, where Cooper Flag is carrying this team.
It's not Caitlin Clark and Iowa, where well, if you
shut Caitlin Clark down, nobody else is gonna go crazy. No,
Duke has three or four guys going. Yeah, you know,
I was a McDonald's All American.

Speaker 3 (22:31):
You know.

Speaker 1 (22:31):
I just want you to know that one of the
I was a five star recruit and I'm here and
you know, you know we had the record we did
here because I've had some pretty good games too. Here
we're thirty five and three, not because the one guy.
I think people are sleeping and just forgetting how good
Duke is, because we're caught up in the narrative of
here's Houston and here's how good they are defensively in boy,
they can give Cooper flag problems.

Speaker 3 (22:52):
Yeah, I'm not saying they can't. But Duke is too deep,
They're too talented.

Speaker 1 (22:56):
They win this game by double digits and they cut
down the nets on Monday night, and it's almost like
I feel like they're gonna have a Yukon Men type
role to the title, like Yukon's had the last couple
of years, where hey, we have the NCAA tournament and
you go back and look and go Manukon, no one
even got within ten points of them. In any game

(23:16):
in the NCAA tournament. That's kind of wins. That's kind
of what I think we're gonna see from Duke. They're
gonna win big tomorrow, They'll win big on Monday Night.
It's gonna look a lot like Yukon's wins the last
couple of years.

Speaker 4 (23:27):
Yeah, we've had a couple of at least the final
box scores looked like a narrow victory during the tournament,
a couple of blowouts for Duke.

Speaker 5 (23:37):
I think some of it.

Speaker 4 (23:38):
Jason owes to the fact that everybody's still trying to
figure out which of the four teams they can try
to crown as a quasi Cinderella situation, and given Duke's history,
given the amount of time and air put into the
Cooper Flag narrative, that it becomes Houston by default. Now
the spread has moved.

Speaker 5 (23:59):
A little bit.

Speaker 4 (24:00):
You've gotten a little bit of money on Houston. It
was five and a half this morning. Last look, it's
now just a five point margin. So maybe you can
wish and hope and find a little something there. But
to think suddenly these guys are all going to freeze
on a big stage. Now, that's why they're at Duke.
They were ready for that moment. They came to that

(24:21):
moment and youth being served. No, they still play defense.

Speaker 3 (24:24):
Right.

Speaker 4 (24:25):
What's curious is and we'll get to the other game
in a second, but just looking at you know, college
as a whole, where we're trending older, right, transfers, guys
petitioning for a six seventh, eighth year I never want
to leave. Used to be a joke in comedy movies
of the guy that had been on campus forever.

Speaker 5 (24:44):
Now it's the basketball team.

Speaker 4 (24:45):
But either way, the point being that you know that
that age is all fine and good and experience, but
talent still wins out. And Shier's got himself a squad
that we've watched this entire year. Could it be a knockdown,
drag out fight historically, Yeah, you let you le like
go a little bit. But that the Duke thing is

(25:06):
an interesting point that you bring up as to whether
that plays and to where suddenly you've got the Houston
front line in foul trouble.

Speaker 5 (25:15):
That just opens up more space.

Speaker 1 (25:18):
You know what the most fun part is going to
be right, because what has been two popular narratives that
has been thrown out this week talking about this game, right,
it's been it's been Houston's defense. Right again, people not understand,
Oh yeah, Duke's defense is great too, Right, it's Houston's defense.
And it's also been you have the upper classmen of
Houston and Duke. It's still a bunch of freshmen and

(25:40):
it's a bunch of guys, you know, and the experienced
level of Houston's gonna.

Speaker 3 (25:43):
Be a big deal.

Speaker 1 (25:44):
And that's gonna be something into Like you said, like
Duke is gonna melt and that's been the biggest thing
all week long. Duke is not melting in the Final
four against Houston because the pressure is to it.

Speaker 3 (25:56):
Just stop.

Speaker 1 (25:56):
That's just stupid. But watch what's gonna happen, Right, the
same people who all week wanted to say stuff like
the experience of Houston, this is absolutely going to wind
up that this is gonna be and this is what
doesn't when Duke wins on Monday night, right, you know,
and we'll talk about it. You're gonna hear the same
people on Tuesday go. You know, experience in the final
four in these games is really overrated.

Speaker 7 (26:17):
Right.

Speaker 1 (26:17):
You get a lot of freshmen that don't know what
they don't know and there's no pressure on them. And
look at them out there. They're not overthinking shots. They're
going to make plays like they've made plays all year.
It really is, It really doesn't matter that much. Experience
doesn't matter. It's gonna be whatever narrative to fit this whole.
Oh I was wrong, And instead of saying I was wrong,
I'm gonna go and say, oh yeah, ye'll me change

(26:38):
the argument. I get the same people that talked about
how how all of Houston's how talented, that how experienced
they are, Like everybody is like in the ninth year
in school that because of COVID, now suddenly things were extended.
You got guys that are thirty four years old, and boy,
they're really.

Speaker 3 (26:52):
They're all guys that you know.

Speaker 1 (26:53):
They're all smoking before the game and they all you know,
everything else. They're all all big adults, right, And I'd
say smoking like I said about smoking cigarettes, because I
was trying to think of an adult thing to say
that adults do the kids don't, and kids nobody should smoke,
by the way, nobody should smoke. But like I think
about that all week long, this and then all it
takes is the narrative to flip with with Duke's players

(27:14):
leading leading you and the young players, and it's oh, well,
maybe it's not that big a deal anymore. Every year
is unique, And yes, I would say sometimes when you
are a freshman team, a freshman laden team, and you
are playing against a team that has a lot of
confidence because they're upper classmen, that can work for you.
You know what it works in the middle of the

(27:35):
tournament when you're a higher seed and you're a bunch
of freshmen and you're playing a mac power that has
a bunch of seniors that have been together, and suddenly
the game is close. This is where I see, okay,
this is where the nervousness of the freshmen.

Speaker 3 (27:49):
Hey, we could get upset.

Speaker 1 (27:50):
It's a different it's a different experience than playing in
the final four.

Speaker 3 (27:54):
And you know how good you are.

Speaker 1 (27:55):
You're one step away from playing for the national champion
where you're playing for the national championship on Monday. You're
you're not feeling any kind of nerves at that point,
you're not questioning yourself, which is what Saint John's did
to themselves in the tournament. At that point, there's nothing,
there's no difference between being senior laid and being fresher langue.

Speaker 3 (28:11):
But in the middle of tournament, Yeah, I'll give you that.

Speaker 1 (28:13):
If this is a middle tournament game and things were happening, Yeah,
I could see where a team that's a bunch of freshmen,
if things aren't going well for them, and the second
half there's a big upset, and they understand that because
they know what the NCAA tournament's about. Everybody is watching,
everybody is cheering. Suddenly the entire crowd is cheering for
the upset and the and the team that's pulling the upset.

(28:33):
Because they have the seniors, they're able to navigate the
last few minutes a little bit better. Yeah, I could
see that, But this is this is final four weekend. Man,
All that stuff goes out, but.

Speaker 5 (28:43):
It's about a four weekend.

Speaker 4 (28:44):
It's also a school with a history, a coach with
a history, you know, a pretty damn fine player in
his own right. So that's one of the other narratives
in the background. Hey, this guy played once upon a time,
and you've seen so many clips from players that went
again show in high school into.

Speaker 5 (29:02):
His collegiate days.

Speaker 4 (29:03):
But just you go with those expectations at Duke, this
isn't a Hey, we were a nine seed out a
run and then all of a sudden the stage gets
really big, just that fast, because now there's all the attention.

Speaker 5 (29:16):
No, these guys are used to it, which is.

Speaker 4 (29:18):
Why they signed huge nil deals and they're playing at Duke.

Speaker 1 (29:23):
Yeah, it's not like suddenly I'm not ready for the pressure.

Speaker 3 (29:26):
But no, you're playing at Duke for a season. I
think you're good. I think you got thirty eight. I
feel you're thirty eight, thirty nine games under your belt.

Speaker 5 (29:32):
You've been on campus a minute.

Speaker 4 (29:34):
You probably played at the highest level of high school ball,
AAU ball, all that stuff.

Speaker 5 (29:40):
Yeah, I think you're good.

Speaker 1 (29:41):
Well in the end, yet a very Yukon like season
for Duke. In the NCAA tournament, every team they win
they beat pretty big. Nobody really stays close, and they
win the title.

Speaker 3 (29:51):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (29:51):
Time not to find out what's trending in the wide
world of sports. For a man, I'm gonna ask if
he knows about this breaking news, because I know he'd
be on top of the sager.

Speaker 3 (30:00):
I have a very important question for you.

Speaker 6 (30:02):
Give it to me.

Speaker 3 (30:03):
There is a big rumor on the internet.

Speaker 1 (30:05):
I'm trying to verify it on on social media that
Luka Doncic made a three pointer tonight.

Speaker 3 (30:12):
Is that true?

Speaker 7 (30:13):
You're saying that he's missed a few?

Speaker 3 (30:16):
Is is that true?

Speaker 7 (30:16):
I'm trying.

Speaker 3 (30:17):
I mean, I can't find three. He's made it three, okay?

Speaker 7 (30:20):
Yeah? Also true, they were losing to the New Orleans
Pelicans for crying out loud for the first quarter and
a half. Today it is now Lakers in the lead
sixty one to fifty late first half against New Orleans,
a team that is not playing anyone that's pretty much
identifiable as an NBA player at this point of the season.

Speaker 3 (30:38):
I don't know, you.

Speaker 1 (30:38):
Guys were getting the Lakers getting worked by Jose Alvarado
for the entire first thing exactly.

Speaker 7 (30:44):
Alfred Payton off the bench.

Speaker 3 (30:46):
Alfred pay very nice. Yeah.

Speaker 7 (30:48):
New Orleans is where the lost would be twenty one
and fifty six. Again, They're down double digit's late first
half in LA. The Clippers have their own arena, so
there's an LA NBA game there and they're blowing away
down halftime. Clippers up fifty eight to thirty five. Anthony
Davis out. These two will play each other again tomorrow.

Speaker 5 (31:07):
Dallas over twelve from three point range.

Speaker 7 (31:09):
That is correct. Even though they have a guy called
Klay Thompson on the team, he has attempted one three
pointer and he starts for Dallas. Meanwhile, Golden State is
in action and leading late third quarter against Denver eighty
seven to seventy nine. Steph Curry is available in playing
despite the bruce tailbone. In fact, Curry ten of sixteen
shooting with twenty eight points. We're not done with the

(31:31):
third yet. Cleveland and Boston each one again. Indiana sent
Utah to an eight straight loss. Houston beat Oklahoma City one,
twenty five to one eleven. Okc had won eleven straight games.
Jalen Green with thirty four points at the women's final
four well Sunday's final will be South Carolina against Yukon
it's official. Connecticut eliminates number one UCLA eighty five fifty one.

(31:55):
Center Lauren Betts had twenty six points. The rest of
her team had twenty five points combined. South Carolina earlier
eliminated Texas seventy four fifty seven in a game that
was tied late in the first half. The men's college
basketball Crown Semis are Saturday on Fox TV from Vegas.
There is a one week long tournament.

Speaker 1 (32:14):
There isn't there another tournament that starts on Tuesday. Another
men's tournament that starts somewhere.

Speaker 7 (32:20):
On Tuesday, after the whole season is over.

Speaker 3 (32:22):
Yeah, is another three.

Speaker 1 (32:24):
It's for all teams that won less than ten games
this year. Right, These are all the tues it somewhere
to play.

Speaker 7 (32:29):
They're all celebrating because we're not going to a field
of eighty four. Whenever they were talking about we won.

Speaker 3 (32:34):
Fourteen games this year. Mike Harmon, just stop with that.

Speaker 7 (32:37):
But yes, this thing that Fox started sixteen teams in
Vegas this week, only for teams that didn't make the
March Madness NCAA field. We had the nit finish this week.
The final of the Crown is Sunday, and the men's
final for the NCAA tournament starts Saturday in San Antoni.

Speaker 1 (32:56):
I'm sorry, Steve, I got You're wrong about that. The
Crown ended two years ago.

Speaker 3 (33:00):
It went six seasons. They had different casts for each aaf.

Speaker 7 (33:03):
No, this one has a different ending. Actually, and Charlie
is not involved.

Speaker 3 (33:07):
Okay, the final shot is not the Queen Walking Office.

Speaker 7 (33:10):
Okay, well, actually that might be the case. We can't predict,
but Queen was playing for Maryland and they're not in
the crust.

Speaker 3 (33:18):
Okay, all right enough to watch. I don't have to
watch McNulty play Prince Charles again. I mean, I can't
do that again.

Speaker 7 (33:25):
Duke's Cooper Flagg was voted AP Player of the Year.
Duke has the late game tomorrow against Houston. Before that,
Saturday six pm Eastern Florida against Auburn in an all
SEC matchup only three games. Tonight wins for the Islanders
Detroit and Washington to cap speach Chicago five to three.
Two more goals for Alex Ovechkin. What a year he
is having. Is his advanced age nearly forty. This is

(33:46):
career goals number eight ninety three and eight ninety four.
He ties for the NHLs all time mark. To Baseball's
late game. Cleveland has two home runs from Jose Ramirez.
They're tied four to four in Anaheim against the angel
bottom of the fifth Philadelphia now six and one. After
beating the Dodgers three to two, Cubs beat the Padres,
who had been undefeated, three to one in the final

(34:09):
eleven inning. Wins for San Francisco and the A's and
the Yankees Aaron Judge. It is sixth homer of the season.
Yanks won nine to four at Pittsburgh met shut out
Toronto five. Nothing back to you, Yeah.

Speaker 3 (34:19):
They did, Thank you, Steve O.

Speaker 1 (34:20):
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up next right here, Jason.

Speaker 3 (34:32):
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Speaker 2 (34:35):
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Speaker 1 (34:43):
Sports Radio The Jason Smith Show with my best friend
Mike Harmon, Live from the tyer rack dot Com Studios.
We'll get back into the big record setting night that
one superstar had. Coming up in about ten minutes. But
two big stories out of the NFL today.

Speaker 3 (35:03):
One involves the signing. One involves a retirement. The signing.

Speaker 1 (35:07):
First, Trey Lance stays in the NFL. He goes to
the Charges where he will be part of the quarterback
room behind Justin Herbert. And here's the thing, Mike, is
that he was linked with the CFL for a long time.
Right when the Cowboys let him go, let his contract go,

(35:28):
what kind of future does he have? And the Chargers
sign him and I get that it looks like it's
a great opportunity. You know, Harball with quarterbacks and here's
Trey Lance, and you know Harbaugh is all excited, but
all of this crap up. Here comes Trey Lance to
take Justin Herbert's job in a year. You know, honestly,
if I was Trey Lance, I would have said, thanks,
but I'm going to the CFL because he has to play, right,

(35:52):
I mean, did you do you just want to hang
out in the league and be a third string quarterback
and being active all year?

Speaker 3 (35:57):
Is that what you want?

Speaker 7 (35:58):
Like?

Speaker 1 (35:59):
Or are you still young enough to say, hey, you're
actually younger than Joe Milton. Okay, Joe Milton, who's everybody
loves Joe Milton. Now you are still younger than Joe Milton. Right,
Trey Lance is still a young guy. Was still you know,
four years ago he was a number three overall pick
in the draft.

Speaker 3 (36:14):
But you gotta go play.

Speaker 1 (36:16):
No one's gonna give you a chance to be there
starting quarterback or even your your your back up with
a with a chance to play if you have to
until they see you play.

Speaker 3 (36:26):
You haven't played since you're since you were in college.
Really you got no time.

Speaker 1 (36:30):
You have to go and have a season where you
show your skills off and then maybe someone will sign you.
Like he's got to go on the Doug Flutie route,
or I gotta go to the CFL for a while.
Then I can come back if I show that I'm
good enough, because then there'll be more interest in him
being more what he wanted to be, which is actually
getting on the field in the NFL.

Speaker 4 (36:47):
Well, well see how this plays, right, It's a guy
that fits some of the past where hardball's had some success,
going back to time in San Francisco and and Kaepernick
and this that was played there.

Speaker 3 (37:01):
Right.

Speaker 4 (37:01):
Something we're we're talking about a little here is we're
getting to it. And in the end, once he making
six point two, him making six point two in the CFL,
So you take the payday, but you've got a chance
to learn. Heineke is not exactly an insurmountable backup. So
if you flash at all, guess what you're number two

(37:21):
with the bullet and then we see what happens. Obviously
you got a good offensive line, you've got a quarterback
and Herbert that you know, we're expecting that great push.
But for Trey Lance, he's going to get a three
game audition, would be my guess.

Speaker 5 (37:37):
Right, Yeah, but look, the.

Speaker 3 (37:38):
Guy's already made thirty five million.

Speaker 4 (37:41):
Dollars over the well for not playing, and what's what's
making trade it all for a little more?

Speaker 1 (37:47):
Yeah exactly, But like you have to sit and say,
what do you really want to do with your life?

Speaker 3 (37:51):
Right? Yes? Six million dollars is great to say I want.

Speaker 5 (37:53):
To play in the NFL?

Speaker 3 (37:54):
Yeah, yeah, and one on it.

Speaker 1 (37:56):
Now you want a player, you want to sit like
Charlie Whitehurst and hold a clipboard, clipboard.

Speaker 4 (38:02):
Jesus had a hell of a run though. Yeah, became
a cult hero everywhere he went.

Speaker 1 (38:06):
But he never came into the league where when I say,
there that's suit, did that situd?

Speaker 3 (38:10):
There? The long hair? I get it?

Speaker 1 (38:12):
But no, but he never came into the league with
a chance. Hey this guy could be a starting quarterback somewhere.
Like you, at some point you got to say I
want to do something with my life. I don't want
to just sit here and say yeah, I collected paychecks?
Mean you got thirty five million. I think you're okay.
I mean if if you're not okay after well then
you got problems. But like I think you've made a
lot of money. What do you want to do with
your life? Like you're twenty five, do something now?

Speaker 4 (38:32):
To be fair, we do live in a society of
people that are more than happy to catch and check
if you play sports and can't someone else do it?

Speaker 3 (38:41):
Yeah? Someone else, someone else? Yeah.

Speaker 1 (38:43):
But when you go and play sports, you want to play.
You don't want to join to say I'm gonna sit
back and not play. I mean you want you I
get that.

Speaker 4 (38:48):
But here's an opportunity in a system that would be
friendly and advantageous to him. Behind a good offensive line.
Do or you can grow and your cash and a
any decent sized check. And as you said, you're only
twenty five, I mean, if we're gonna do the hey,
Sam's only twenty seven.

Speaker 5 (39:07):
Bit I mean Trey.

Speaker 4 (39:08):
Lance still has plenty of times, and he had flashed
a couple of times. Just the poor guy got hurt
and then he never saw the field again, and he'll
never get.

Speaker 3 (39:15):
A chance, all right. That's why I would go to
the CFL.

Speaker 1 (39:18):
The other big story today Julio Jones calls it quits
after thirteen years in the NFL, and I'm surprised at
the debate on social media of is Julio Jones a
Hall of Famer?

Speaker 3 (39:30):
Dude?

Speaker 1 (39:31):
Is Julio jo Are you kidding me? Julio Jones one
of the best wide receivers to ever play the game.
All we need to tell you is he's on the
All Decade Team of the twenty tens. That should be
enough to say, Okay, yeah, the guy's a Hall of Famer.
You could say all the numbers you want in the
Pro Bowls and the All Pros and the All Pros,
five All Pro nods he had. When you are the

(39:51):
one of the two wide receivers of three wide receivers
on the All Decade team, when you're any position on
the All Decade team, you're a Hall of Famer. I
can't believe this is up that team of being debated
for Julio Jones.

Speaker 4 (40:01):
Well, because we like debating things, even if there really
doesn't need to be any right, Hey, this guy's gonna
go to the Hall.

Speaker 5 (40:09):
Yeah, okay.

Speaker 4 (40:11):
I don't get it terribly excited about a lot of
the players that come up for quote unquote debate. They
they seem pretty obvious one way or another. Julio Jones
is that guy?

Speaker 5 (40:25):
Right?

Speaker 3 (40:25):
He was?

Speaker 5 (40:25):
It was a monster.

Speaker 4 (40:27):
The fact that he wasn't already retired still kind of
shocks me. But that's a whole other thing.

Speaker 3 (40:31):
Oh yeah, yeah, Oh he was still playing. Oh oh yeah,
that's right. Okay.

Speaker 4 (40:35):
I had nine h fourteen career receptions thirteen thou seven
hundred yards, so fifteen yards a pop. Clip The sixty
six touchdowns a little lower than you would Jason.

Speaker 5 (40:46):
Yeah, how many games the Jets would have won with clipboard?

Speaker 1 (40:49):
Jesus the same number because they would actually put him
in the game and they would.

Speaker 3 (40:54):
Realized there's a reason why he's Alton mclippord.

Speaker 5 (40:56):
Would you believe he only had one double digit touchdown.

Speaker 3 (40:58):
Season, Yeah, long time ago, long time.

Speaker 5 (41:01):
That was his second year. Exactly. Crazy.

Speaker 1 (41:05):
Uh coming up next, Yes, we have the big record
breaking night to get to here on Fox
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