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Jason Smith & Steve DeSaegher talk shop on Nico Harrison's recent closed door press conference and so much more!

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:23):
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Speaker 1 (00:28):
Hello, Welcome inside, Happy Tuesday, The Jason Smith Show with
Mike Carmon. Special delivery Steve de Sager in for Harmon
tonight and a big night for Steve to Sager because
he called me today and said, Jason, take the magic,
lay the points, and look at what's happening right now.
In the first play in game four minutes to go,

(00:48):
Orlando will be moving on to face Boston. They lead
it one, fourteen to eighty seven. Clearly for the Hawks,
it's either we get up and get full of vim
and vigor and juice to play the Knicks, but everybody
else will just lay down. That's kind of the Hawks. One.

Speaker 3 (01:04):
If I had called you, that would indicate some sort
of interest in an Atlanta Hawks game, So no that
it did not occur.

Speaker 1 (01:10):
But for there's only two games tonight, Steve, there's only
two games.

Speaker 3 (01:13):
Fortunately, this one is almost over. As for the Atlanta Hawks,
it was looking like anybody who selected the opponent tonight, well,
this one's going to be racing to a twenty five
to thirty point win. It just it's gonna get there.

Speaker 1 (01:26):
Eventually.

Speaker 4 (01:27):
They took the circuitous route.

Speaker 1 (01:28):
Let's say, yeah, no, it just took a little while.
And you look, Atlanta had a did have a good
third quarter, and you thought, maybe it's gonna get close
in the fourth, and absolutely that did not happen. Orlando
is just blowing the doors off, out scoring him.

Speaker 4 (01:41):
By twenty one just in the fourth.

Speaker 1 (01:43):
Right now, who I mean a Cole Anthony has twenty
six off the bench for the Magic. He's four to
nine from three point range. Like this is an absolute
burial by the Magic over the Hawks. Now I'm not
saying that, hey, look out for the Magic all of us.
Suddenly they are seven seed. They're a five and a
team for a reason. But of all the teams in
the East, of all the teams in the East, you

(02:03):
would say, hey, who can come out of the first
playing first round of play ins and potentially do the
most damage. It would be the magic, the magic of
a pretty good base. They just they're just missing a
little bit. I mean the East, you have the top
heavy teams there, but the Magic have a lot of talent,
and it's just you know, they're not far off. And

(02:24):
this is a team that, yeah, in a series, yeah
they I could see the Magic causing some problems. Now
for the Celtics, they'd have to really be injured all
the way across and just absolutely not even show up.
But the magic of all the teams in the East,
the magic of a pretty good team. They got a
pretty thing going on in Orlando.

Speaker 3 (02:39):
Right, And if ben Cao and Wagner on the court
at the same time, and they are and you mentioned
the bench, sure, sure. And as far as the Atlanta Hawks,
they're gonna be forty and forty three after tonight. But
guess what, in this is not your father's NBA. Things
are not over for the Atlanta Hawks. There's a last
chance game for them on Friday, because you see, kids,

(03:00):
the Tuesday game losers still get to play Friday with
the last chance to earn the eighth seed for the
postseason that begins this weekend.

Speaker 1 (03:09):
You get one more chance. How happy are you to
see that? And look, obviously the hog Look and I
told you the surprise team. I gave you my surprise
Team's gonna come out of the the East playing. I'm
taking the Bulls. The Bulls have been dynamic the last
the last few weeks, they've been mighty playing. Yeah, he's
supposed to play like everything everything seems to be pointed

(03:30):
to him playing, But him and Kobe White have been
so dynamic, and Vucevich has been really good. I mean
this is there are twelve games over five hundred since
the All Star Break, and you say, well, okay, that's
not bad. Yeah, but look at the teams in the
playing round. It's not like all these teams have great records. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (03:44):
No, these think they're opponent tomorrow the Miami Heat thirty
seven and forty five. And they haven't been put out
of their misery yet.

Speaker 1 (03:52):
No, no, no, if I can put it that way,
yeah no, Like I said, with the playing rounds, it's uh,
it's really yeah. The Eastern Conference has just happen to
be televised. The Western Conference. That's where the drama is
all a lot of fi.

Speaker 3 (04:03):
I'm not a guest the play in tournament, by the way,
and it does do something like for the final day
of the season. Here, we just experienced it meant something,
meant something on Sunday for instead of just people. You know,
most of the games were just worthless and not we're
seeing on Sunday some meant something and you know, we're
getting a play in. And then the bad news is,

(04:24):
do you know this is the third straight year that
in the East play in. We've had Atlanta and Miami
and Chicago three yeah, straight years. So it's a little
like March Madness, which got talked about a few weeks ago.
We love the upsets and then we wind up Wait
a minute, it's George Mason against Eastern Michigan on Thursday night.

Speaker 4 (04:42):
What what's going on here?

Speaker 1 (04:43):
So well, but here's where I spin it forward for
you and make it great. Hey. The Eastern Conference Playing
Round has three of the official Playing Round teams of
the playing Round. Yes, we have the Magic, we have
the Bulls, we have the Hawks, we have the official
tried and true heritage teams of the player tournament, all
doing battle. Tune in because you know these guys, hey,

(05:04):
they are absolutely experiencing the plane. We see them every year.
They're the official plan.

Speaker 3 (05:09):
And I will add Golden State can be on that
list as well, because until today I did not realize
Golden State's not only been in a lot, but never
want to playing game at oz to three.

Speaker 2 (05:20):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (05:20):
Yeah, they're looking to break that record here tonight.

Speaker 3 (05:23):
Now.

Speaker 1 (05:23):
Look, that's the thing is that this is how rough
the Western Conference is because if you think, okay, Warriors
over the passage the trade deadline, Boy, they've been pretty
good since they got Jimmy buckets. Right, they're one of
the big run when they got them. They've been really good. Right,
they've been really good. Where are they They're in the
playing round, right, I mean they've been really good. They
all trade deadline and they're in the playing.

Speaker 3 (05:44):
Almost won fifty games this year, yeah, and they're playing
they like seventeen and four at one point after the
acquisition and Jimmy Butler and right, they don't even finish
in the top six because they couldn't win a home
game on the final day of the season on Sunday,
lost in overtime, and that's why they drop to the
seven seed. And that's why Golden State is about to

(06:04):
play at home against Memphis.

Speaker 1 (06:06):
I'm waiting for Steve Kerr for the end of season
press conference and go. You know, the NBA needs to
do something about the seedings for the playing rounds and
the teams that have the best records should be in
the playoffs no matter what.

Speaker 4 (06:17):
Yeah, give me a chance.

Speaker 1 (06:19):
If you have the worst records, you have to be
in the play in round. Why or why are we
in the play in round? And clearly we're better than
almost half the teams in the Eastern Conference. I'm waiting
for that because you know that's not too far away
this whole You know, the Western Conference is really a
lot better, and it's not really unfair what they're doing
by putting the same number of playoff teams in the East.
But then you'll know that's coming.

Speaker 3 (06:37):
He'll let it slip and say, and why do the
Tampa Bay Bucks keep getting a home playoff game?

Speaker 4 (06:41):
People?

Speaker 1 (06:42):
Oh?

Speaker 4 (06:42):
Sorry, much sport.

Speaker 3 (06:44):
While I'm at it, you know, they're talking about maybe
doing something. I think May is the next owners meetings
for the NFL doing something about playoff seating.

Speaker 1 (06:53):
They have. They have way too many owners meetings now,
Like remember used to be, Hey, the one off season
owners meeting with everybody he is there. This is where
you had to get momentum for any rule changes you wanted,
any trades you wanted to make.

Speaker 3 (07:06):
Now are we found out every year that Jeff Fisher
was on the Competition Committee.

Speaker 1 (07:10):
Yes, he actually wore a button that said Hi, I'm Jeff,
I'm on the Competition Committee. But like that was like, okay,
the one time, the one now I feel like they
have it's like once a month they have an owner's meeting,
but the GM meeting that the owners are at, then
another owner's meeting, then another rule meeting with the owners.
Like it's like every month there's a meeting.

Speaker 3 (07:26):
Now, well, it gives you the ability to kick the
can down the road because there was something that, oh,
apparently we don't have support for it this past month.

Speaker 4 (07:33):
Hey, you know what, we got another meeting company.

Speaker 1 (07:35):
Up in May.

Speaker 4 (07:36):
Can we just freak it in.

Speaker 3 (07:37):
Maybe we can twist some people's arms between now and
May and get where we wanted to vote.

Speaker 1 (07:43):
But you know all the useless meetings that people have
in offices every single do we need another meeting? Do
we have another meeting? Well, if it's going to be catered, okay,
But now it's got its way to the NFL. YEA,
all have another meeting? You really have another meeting.

Speaker 3 (07:53):
Some meetings are catered and some meetings are you're reminding
me of when the Reds used to be on by
Marge Shot, which is not ancient history, but she was on.

Speaker 1 (08:01):
The cover of Sports Illustrated smoking a cigarette.

Speaker 3 (08:05):
She I mean she was the owner of the world
champion Cincinnati Reads in nineteen ninety. But when they had
the upper management meetings, it was donuts only, and then
after the meetings, if there were leftover donuts, she had
them placed out for the normal regular office workers with
a sign that said twenty five cents. Yeah, I'm not kidding.

Speaker 1 (08:31):
And you wonder why. It's a short step to saying, hey,
Eric Davis lacerated his kidney winning the World Series. You're
gonna pay for his flight up. No, not paying for that. No,
he can get back here wherever he needs to. But
he got hurt playing for you here, lacerated his kidney.
He's been in the hospital. Yeah, now he'll get back
in something.

Speaker 3 (08:46):
I know someone who used to work in Cincinnati, and
they said, shock of shocks. There was one Christmas where
employees actually got a Christmas present of candy from oldermar
shot in Cincinnati, and then they it was who was
the nineteen ninety three And they open it up and
there's a game card that you can play and it
says win a trip to the nineteen ninety one Grammys.

Speaker 1 (09:08):
Oh wow, hey Steve, if you could win a trip
to go back in time, wouldn't you want that? I
would want that. I don't know that I would pick
the ninety one Grammys.

Speaker 3 (09:16):
But still nice about eating the candy that is being
offered me as a present that is at least two
years old.

Speaker 1 (09:23):
But I go back. I could watch the Twins win
the World Series again over the Braves. I could watch them,
you know, Redskins win the Super Bowl and make a
lot of money.

Speaker 4 (09:32):
You mentioned the Twins.

Speaker 3 (09:33):
We did get a call about excitement for the Timberwolves
in Minnesota's the NBA Playoffs are about to start for them.
That was the last call on the show right before us,
And it just reminds us that our boss every postseason
he gives a very very informative and updated tweet about
how the Twin Cities have done in their professional sports,

(09:55):
because I don't believe they've done since the Twins in
nineteen ninety one. I love those teams.

Speaker 1 (10:01):
Yeah, no, Scott Shapiro definitely goes goes, you know, goes
to the goes to the wall for the Minnesota teams
in the playoffs.

Speaker 3 (10:06):
Is I don't think people really know what's been going
on in seriously in pro sport. If you had to guess, Okay,
when's the time the last time any of those teams won.

Speaker 4 (10:15):
The title that long? Are you kidding? Yeah? Yeah, oh yeah,
no kidding.

Speaker 1 (10:20):
Uh, because you remember you had the uh the they
almost went to the Super Bowl, Gary Anderson missed the
field goal and the champions Title game, right that was
Randy Moss's big chance. And then the t Wolves and
four uh that was their best team ever, right, that
was Garnett and Hugliata. And they won like they won
like eighty out of eighty two games in the regular season,
like that had an insanely good regular season. Was like

(10:42):
they won like they won like sixty games, and it
was a great season for them, and they fell short.
So yeah, it's you know, it's a it's been a little.

Speaker 3 (10:48):
Bit a minute, but they actually finally made well I
was going to say made the conference final. They actually
won a playoff series finally in O four and then
got beat by the Lakers in the Western Conference Finals.

Speaker 1 (10:59):
Yeah, and this year they had Sam Darnold. It turned
out to be so good, and then we're going to
keep him for the rest of Oh no, no, we're
gonna let him go.

Speaker 3 (11:05):
Yeah, we saw the last two games the Timberwolves. By
the way, since that four postseason with Garnett where they
actually made the run for the first time in franchise history,
they hadn't won a single playoff series since then until
last year when they made the Conference finals at Los So.
In all of their years of existence as a team,

(11:27):
those are literally the only two runs out of the
first round for the Timberwolves. And they became a franchise
in eighty nine.

Speaker 1 (11:35):
Jason Smith, Steve Disaga, Fox Sports Radio the Magic game
against the Hawks. In the books, the Magic move on
into the playoffs. There will be the seventh seed in
the East one twenty to ninety five. Just about to
have the tip for Golden State and Memphis. We'll see
when John Morant does his first finger gun celebration. Maybe
it's right off the opening tip. But speaking of the

(11:56):
playing right, we had a great story today because MAVs
GA Nico Harrison, who has been the scourge of the
NBA since the Luka Donciche.

Speaker 4 (12:03):
Trade and particularly Dallas, Yes, spoke to.

Speaker 1 (12:07):
Reporters for only the second time since the trade was made.
Like he spoke the day after, he made some jokes
that didn't go over well. He's the most hated man
in Dallas, and they're actually gonna put a statue of
him up outside of Crypto, right next to the Magic
Johnson statue.

Speaker 3 (12:22):
Oh, I thought you werena say, they're gonna put one
up in Dallas just so they can.

Speaker 1 (12:25):
Tear it down, just so they could throw stuff at it.
Yet bring your tomatoes downtown, right outside the arena. So
he gives a press conference today, but he has a
meeting with the Dallas media because look, they're in the
playing round they played tomorrow night. The meeting has no
cameras or recording devices, in which he talked about the

(12:46):
trade and said he has no regrets over it, and
you're excited about the passion of the fans, but no
regrets over the Luca dontet trade. A right now, there's
a lot to unpack your But first thing is this,
I understand that that you're a little gun shy about
getting in front of cameras when you get that kind
of age.

Speaker 4 (13:03):
This should be his first regret.

Speaker 1 (13:04):
I get it. Uh, the first regret should be, dude,
what do you what? Are you afraid that the media
is gonna do? Quote you warmly and accurately? No, no, no, no, no,
no recording devices, no cameras. I'm just gonna talk to
the media. But the whole thing is, so they care
what do you talk? So you want to be misquoted,
Like that's the thing. You want to be misquoted because
if you think that though, I'm gonna they're gonna not

(13:25):
be able to cut my words into something else, Like
they're gonna unfairly edit him into a section on Sportsnight
where the reporter says, and here's what Nico Harrison had
to say today. I would do it again a million times.
Oh the fans suck, like they're gonna edit that together. No,
all you do by not being recorded is make it
easier to misquote you. I don't understand. I want to

(13:47):
make sure I've quote. No, I don't want to don't
want to talk about it. I mean, come on, man,
that that is that that's like covering it and weak.
That's like getting off junior high, putting it all. I mean, dude,
grow up, man, I mean, grow up. I'm gonna defend
the later in the show, but dude, grow up. Man.

Speaker 3 (14:02):
Is this a meeting for the media. Is that what
you're saying? Because not every part of the media is
print media. You're aware of that, right. I was for
many years as a radio person at one press conference
after another, not with a television camera and not with
my notebook like a columnist. I was a radio guy
with a microphone. Are you telling me this is a

(14:24):
meeting with the media but it can't be recorded? What
are you talking about. It's not in your living room.
This is your official duties. By talking to the media,
you are talking to the fans.

Speaker 1 (14:36):
I really this is I mean again, and I'm gonna
defend them later on in the show. I'm gonna defend them.
But now, but I can't defend this, Like, dude, come on, man,
you're talking. What are you afraid the media is gonna do?
Did the media misconstrue the Luca trade? Like did that happen? Like?
Did Luca trade get out and suddenly they misreported it? Hey,
look at this trade. No, it's not all what it was.
We got Anthony Davis in the trade. Now we're leaving

(14:57):
that bart out. We're just saying that you got Luka Dancic. No,
but if we got Anthony Davis, he's a great player. No,
not like what come on, man, grow up like being
a like, be an adult when this, when this comes
up to it. Yeah, the media is here, they'll record
what you say. That's kind of how it goes. Man.
But suddenly, oh no, no, no, no, I want to
control the narrative, like you're afraid the evil media is.

Speaker 4 (15:16):
To lay something to you.

Speaker 3 (15:17):
What is it that the horse has left the barn?
I think that's the expression. He's got a Dallas team
that's sub five hundred.

Speaker 4 (15:24):
I get it. Most trades, you're trying to look down
the road. Not all, but.

Speaker 3 (15:27):
Most I and I even agree with, Okay, defense, great defense,
wins championships, Fine, all of that, But let's let's be honest.
Let's live in the present, shall we. What you have
currently can't be hidden. You're a team that's probably gonna
be eliminated tomorrow night.

Speaker 1 (15:46):
Right.

Speaker 3 (15:46):
Wouldn't you guess that a healthy Sacramento is better than
a healthy Dallas, and it looks like, you know, Davis
is playing and he's back healthy. And even though wasn't
it appropriate that he got his very first game. I'm
sorry to laugh, but I mean, you couldn't have rich
than that any better. So yeah, thirty nine and forty
three is the Dallas record.

Speaker 1 (16:04):
Noah nkally ge get out of high school, man, get
out of high school, Join the join the big boys.
Understand that when you make a trip, you gotta own it, right,
you just own it. No, no, no, no, there.

Speaker 3 (16:13):
We're still recording this fire Nico Chance Sunday in the
season finale in Dallas.

Speaker 4 (16:18):
And by the way, before.

Speaker 1 (16:19):
There's gonna be fire Nico Chance the first week of
the Cowboys seasons. They're gonna be yelling at at the stadium.

Speaker 4 (16:25):
That's right, because we know Jerry's not going to fire himself.

Speaker 1 (16:28):
Dallas is good. Dallas is gonna lose that game thirty
eight seven, and they're gonna talk to Jerry after. He's
gonna say, not a great week. But boy, how about
Nico trading Luca. Boy, that's trade id worked out. He'll
take questions on that, sure, I'll take questions. He'll always
be in town as a punching bag. Before we break,
I must mentioned in the West playing opener at Golden

(16:48):
State Memphis out to an eleven to two lead on
the Warriors. I haven't seen any finger gestures, but a
nice start for the visitors. No, I have not yet,
but again not exactly the start the Warriors had in mind.

Speaker 4 (17:00):
But it is.

Speaker 1 (17:02):
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Speaker 1 (18:50):
Hello, Welcome in Side hour two the Jason Smith Show
with Mike Harmon Special Delivery Steve to say, you're in
for Harmon tonight and the night cap and the playing Round. Well,
let's just say it started out well for Memphis. I mean,
you got to be honest, it did start out well
for them.

Speaker 4 (19:09):
That's accurate.

Speaker 1 (19:11):
Not so much after the first four minutes. With five
and a half to go until halftime, the Warriors have
a fifty five forty two lead. They could have a
seventy point first half against Memphis right now. John Moran
started out hot eleven points. I've not seen him do
one finger gun celebration yet. I mean I've been watching,

(19:32):
you know, doing the show watch, I've not seen it yet. Meanwhile,
for the Warriors, it has been Jimmy Buckets with sixteen
points and Steph Curry has Eleven's been a really balanced
day overall so far for the Warriors. From the floor,
they are getting it from everywhere. Everybody from their benches
jumped in already. So it is a thirteen point lead

(19:53):
for the Warriors now still five and a half to
go before half.

Speaker 3 (19:55):
And the good news for Golden State he hasn't attempted
a shot. Yet Raymond Green is not only scoreless, he
hasn't gotten the ball two feet from the baskets. Hey,
you know, instead of concentrating on a lab just jump
to the right into the defender like you did on
Sunday when he missed a key bucket lay.

Speaker 4 (20:14):
What are you doing? That's a reason you're not a scorer.

Speaker 1 (20:17):
Do you think the Warriors can win agacause I want
to see this now like one of those experiments. Do
you think the Warriors can win a game where Draymond
Green never touches the basketball offensively? No, never touch doesn't
touch the ball once. No, doesn't touch the ball once. No,
doesn't touch, not offensive rebound, not not not in when
they pass it to him. Do doesn't touch defensively? Yes,

(20:38):
touches the ball, but doesn't touch the ball once offensively.

Speaker 4 (20:41):
No, that's gonna happen.

Speaker 1 (20:42):
Are you sure about that?

Speaker 4 (20:43):
For success? That's gonna happen?

Speaker 1 (20:45):
You sure? I don't know. I'd like to see it.
I'd like to see it just like it be the
one guy in the corner and it's not passing the ball.

Speaker 3 (20:51):
He has three assists and no turnovers. Just for the record.
Oh and Will Smith is just Homer. Dodgers up four
nothing on Colorado. You know there's a chance the Rockies
down eleven and a half games in the standings after tonight.

Speaker 1 (21:03):
You know, is it just me? Or has every ball
the Dodgers have hit off of Rockies pitching the last
two nights had like an exit VLA of one hundred
and eighty miles an hour. Oh, I feel like every
time I've seen the ball hit, it's like, Wow, that
ball was scalded. Oh my goodness, that ball was scald.

Speaker 3 (21:17):
Usually a Rockies game, you're thinking distance, flying, floating, continuing, carrying.

Speaker 4 (21:22):
This is not what you're talking about.

Speaker 1 (21:24):
O man. I mean, it is just watchless, like, oh
my god, that ball was scalded. Oh my goodness, that
ball was ripped.

Speaker 3 (21:30):
Well, you've seen the Rocky staff, so I think we
know what we're dealing with here.

Speaker 1 (21:36):
Over under for Rockies wins against teams in the NL
West this year, and I put it at three.

Speaker 3 (21:44):
Three, Okay, I'm gonna go way out in a limb.
Draymond Green's gonna touch the ball and they're gonna win.
And the Rockies are gonna win more more than three
games in the division.

Speaker 1 (21:54):
All right, five. Where are those three wins? Steve O?
Where tell me where those three wins are going to be.

Speaker 3 (22:00):
The good news for them in baseball is that even
the worst team still wind up with about fifty total wins.

Speaker 4 (22:06):
So some of those will be in their division.

Speaker 1 (22:09):
Are you sure about that?

Speaker 4 (22:11):
I'm somewhat sure about Are you sure about that? I
said that, somewhat sure about that.

Speaker 1 (22:15):
Okay, because because you know, you look at the standings
and you see, hey, look a look at the West.
You know, Padres fourteen and three, Giants are twelve and five,
Dodgers are twelve and six. Oh, by the way, those
are the three best records in all of baseball. You know,
I would say this, Okay, maybe they take three out
of the year against Arizona. Maybe, I mean, I could

(22:39):
they could take that. I don't know. Arizona's not bad
too over the course of six months.

Speaker 4 (22:43):
Your head get on this.

Speaker 1 (22:45):
I don't know. Maybe maybe they take three. I don't know.
It's gonna be tough, gonna be very difficult, Okay.

Speaker 3 (22:49):
Last year in your division. I just looked it up.
The full season for the NL East. The worst record
in the NL East, the last Marlins who lost one
hundred games last year, went eighteen and thirty four in
the division.

Speaker 1 (23:06):
Yeah. See, that's that. The the NL East last year
did three playoff teams. Right, division was good last year. Right,
the Mets come out of nowhere. This NLS is way better.
It's just way better. Maybe they beat the DoD They
beat the Dodgers once, I don't know, that's probably an over.
Do they beat the Padres, that's probably an over the Giants.

(23:27):
I'll get them a win against the Giants at some point,
you know, and maybe they got to get to two
or three against the Diamondbacks at maybe maybe three and
forty seven is going to be the It is gonna
be their record.

Speaker 3 (23:38):
By the way, Rockies also had eighteen wins in their
division last year and they lost one hundred and one.

Speaker 1 (23:44):
Yeah, okay, but the Dodgers got better, the Giants got better,
the Padres got better. All the better. Oh that'll be fun.
Uh Now, let's get to this again. Playing going on
right now, Memphis looking to cut the lead before halftime
against the Warriors. We'll have more on this game coming
up in a bit. But Nico Harrison MAVs GM spoke
today for just the second time since pulling off the

(24:07):
Luka doncic trade.

Speaker 4 (24:08):
Wait did he did?

Speaker 1 (24:09):
He do? We have to well, well, there's well, the
print reporters at this press conference or this this media
availability that he had, people were able to write down
what he said. But he spoke to reporters today. They
were not allowed to have any recording devices or cameras
in for this media.

Speaker 3 (24:30):
Next question is did they actually check the pieces of
paper that the media members were writing down notes on.
Did they have to clear their notes in order to
exit the room afterwards?

Speaker 1 (24:42):
I mean this, it's it's so high school. It's so okay.
I'll talk, but nobody can write stuff out. Nobody can
write stuff.

Speaker 3 (24:48):
Can you imagine a teacher saying, I don't want you
to take notes on this lecture please by all means
put away.

Speaker 1 (24:56):
And the thing is, I want I'm going to defend
the guy, but like, wow, dude, you made it really tough. Man.
I mean, I'm still gonna do it, but you made
it really tough with this ridiculous no cameras anywhere. This
is kind of what media availability is. Then don't talk
to the media. If you don't do interviews, I don't understand.
Don't talk to it. I don't, don't do it, then
I'll talk.

Speaker 3 (25:16):
You're thinking this day is a big win for you.
It was a loss before you entered the room. If
that's the policy.

Speaker 1 (25:23):
Like, I don't know what he what he wanted the
narrative to be other than if you keep taking shots
at me and the if I keep getting criticized, I
won't talk to anybody because I can't believe it's he
has He doesn't want to be quoted accurately, right, because
that's a that's the biggest thing is like, well, we
can't record you. I got to remember what you wrote.
I got to write in shorthand. This is back when

(25:43):
when when that's what reporters had to do was take
notes in shorthand. Because the guy, wait, go back and
say that again. You said, yeah, this is.

Speaker 3 (25:50):
Like when you asked the biology teacher, can you slow down,
we're just catching up on our handwritten notes here.

Speaker 1 (25:55):
That was one of my favorite things to say in class,
Like I usually got it. And like when we were
doing math when the teacher was showing us a derivation
either in calculus or something, and the teacher saying, Oka,
everybody got it, and I'd raise my hand. She goes Chase,
I go, what is anything you just said? And people
would laughed. You go, okay, okay, okay, and you realized
that you lost everybody because it was this like, why
do we need to know the derivation? Just show us

(26:16):
the Formula's what we're gonna do. They're not gonna ask
about the derivation eight death.

Speaker 3 (26:18):
What I remember about college biology is that our lecturer
had an accent and at one point he said this,
the nutrition in this item is found in pacans. And
we all look at each all the students simultaneously start.

Speaker 4 (26:32):
Looking around the room. Did he just use a word
in English?

Speaker 3 (26:35):
We don't know what he And somebody finally boldly raised
their head and said, sir, what what was the last sentence?

Speaker 4 (26:42):
It's found in Pagan's pick? What is peg nuts? Pacan's pacans?

Speaker 1 (26:45):
You know?

Speaker 4 (26:46):
Oh you mean pecans? Oh? Sorry about you know?

Speaker 1 (26:50):
You know pecan pie? You have that right? You have
pacon pie? Don't you sure?

Speaker 4 (26:54):
I dare anybody?

Speaker 3 (26:55):
Well, it's past now, but anybody at that u lecture
from the Jedi manager of the MAVs today to literally
raise their hand and say, you know, I could go
back over my recorded notes later, but since you're such
a jerky can you just slow down? Hand cramping up?

Speaker 4 (27:11):
Wait?

Speaker 1 (27:12):
At my best recollection, you said screw everybody criticizing me.
I've never said that.

Speaker 3 (27:18):
Is he under the impression that it's the media leading
the fire Nico cheers even last Sunday, It's not.

Speaker 1 (27:26):
Look, and here's the and this is where it gets tough,
because now I'm gonna defend the guy, right, because I'm like, dude,
you really make it difficult just not for that. Do
this is that. Here's the thing, is that you gotta
let him off the hook because this trade wasn't Nico
Harrison who woke up one day and decided, I'm gonna
trade Luka doncic Right, I'm gonna do that. A trade

(27:48):
of this magnitude has to be okayed and thought of
at the highest level. Right. And Mark Cuban, who liked
to say, oh I wasn't on board, Well, you know
guess what, Mark Cuban is one of the minority owners
of the teams now.

Speaker 4 (27:59):
The ad at the highest level.

Speaker 1 (28:00):
There no the Adelson and the Dumont families own it
from Vegas. Right, So what was the what was it
the crux of this? Hey, we're having some problems with Luca.
We want him to be able to stop vaping and
stop drinking and get in shape and take care of
his body because he wants three hundred million dollar contract.
Do you really think Nico Harrison just decided and said, hey,
you know what, Hey, Jerry Addison, Yeah, here's what I'm

(28:24):
gonna do. I'm gonna trade Luca. Oh okay, yeah, I'm
just gonna do it. Don't worry about it. Don't worry
about it. You have to get the sign offs at
every level to make a trade like this, right, the
Addison families had to do it, the Dumont families had
to do it. You had to get a sign off. Right.
This is bigger than just hey, I'm gonna make a
move here, I'm gonna make this. This is not Billy
Bean just walking into you know, Steve schatz Off is

(28:46):
a moneyball saying hey, I need more money for Ricardo Roncone.
Like you know, this is this is where this is
a franchise alterrained trade where everybody's got to be on
board with it. And guess what, everybody was on board
because this trade doesn't happen if everybody's not on board, right,
It just it just doesn't happen.

Speaker 3 (29:02):
So they walked into the office of the owner there
in Dallas and said, why do we need Davis? And
then he said, because he gets on base.

Speaker 1 (29:10):
Guys, point a pede again. You know the answer.

Speaker 3 (29:13):
He's the Scott Maddeberg of our Dallas Mavericks franchise.

Speaker 1 (29:16):
So you know that that everybody was on board with this,
and likely the crux of it was, here are the
Adelsons in the do wants say, yeah, we don't want
to give that guy three hundred and fifty million dollars
if we don't think he's gonna come in and be.

Speaker 3 (29:32):
And you're not just throwing out a figure. Just so
people know, re signing your own free agent, it's a
set in amount of money. It's called a super max contract.
According to NBA rules. He would get less elsewhere, but
that extreme amount of cash. If it was Dallas, they
really didn't have a choice. Their choice is do we
want a divorce from him now or else we're going

(29:54):
to owe him that.

Speaker 1 (29:55):
Yeah, this is this is what the money he was
going to get was three hundred and fifty million dollars.
And here's a team that really isn't Dallas right. Here's
the owners who really aren't Dallas right. These are families
that bought the team and bought controlling interests from Mark Cuban. Now,
I believe Cuban went from the perspective where he says, oh,
if I was still owning the team, he wouldn't have
made that trade. That I get from the perspective of

(30:17):
he knows Dallas and knows what the ramifications of that
is going to be franchise trade, and he gets it,
and he's Dallas right. These owners aren't Dallas. These owners
aren't Dallas right. Yeah, Okay, three hundred fifty million dollars,
we'll get another superstar. Okay, go ahead, make the trade.
And so all the frustration that they have had with Luca,
which I'm sure the front office has hacked, just didn't

(30:38):
just you know, come up out of nowhere. Okay, now
we can make this trade. So understand that this is
not Nico Harrison saying hey, I did this, and and
the owners are waking up the next day, go we
were blindsided by we had no idea. Oh well, I
guess regular trade. Everybody was on board, and I give
him credit. Not I'll just let him off. The hook
because this is everybody, but he's the guy taking all
the arrows right now. There is nobody he's stepping up

(31:00):
saying I made this. The Addison's aren't saying and the
Dumonts aren't saying no, no, no, No one is saying this.
They're just hey, Nico made this treet, Nico made this trade,
and they are just silent. So he is taking all
of the criticism, which I think is a pretty big thing.
It's a pretty good GM thing to do to say,
all right, we make this train. I'm the most unpopular guy.
I would like people to help me. I'd like somebody

(31:21):
to say something, but I'm gonna I'm gonna defend it.
I'm gonna defend the trade again like he did today.
So it's time to give him a lot of credit
for stuff like that. And you know, because you know,
in the end, Luca is not a favorite of the
new ownership. When they came in, for whatever reason it was,
it was different. Maybe that's what Luca was referring to
when he said, I always thought my time in Dallas

(31:41):
would end this way. I'm not the guy. This is
not the franchise it was when I came in when
Mark Cuban run ran the day to day of it,
things are different. So this whole Nico Harrison thinking, yeah,
I get he's unpopular. I get there, but they decided
to make this trade. Everybody's on board with it. But
yet it's not Nico who woke up one day and
said let's do it. Was we're gonna move on. We're
not gonna pay this money. It's gonna be very clinical

(32:04):
because we're rich owners and we don't want to pay
money to somebody that we don't have to pay money
to that we don't think is gonna give us that return.
So guess what, Yes, go ahead and trade him. And
maybe you misconstrued what the reaction was going to be
or just how bad it was gonna be, But this
is where you are. It's not all on Nico. It's
not just Nico Harrison's fault. And the guy has stood
up and taking all the criticism for it. I think

(32:24):
it's time to let him off the hook a little bit.

Speaker 3 (32:26):
I am almost there with you, because any trade this
enormous obviously involves ownership. However, when you keep shooting yourself
in the foot in other areas, I'm sorry, I just
lose a little bit of sympathy if you want to
say he's taking arrows. Okay, I can see that he
is the general manager.

Speaker 4 (32:45):
That's part of the thing.

Speaker 1 (32:47):
But many guys want to help anybody. You guys want
to help it. Hey, I gotta go out. I'll can
be back later on. I'll be back later on.

Speaker 3 (32:53):
Absolutely, can we update before we end the segment. It
is halftime at the NBA playing game at Golden State,
and the Warriors, who were down eleven too early, now
lead Memphis at the break sixty seven fifty five.

Speaker 4 (33:06):
So you're right.

Speaker 3 (33:06):
They got close to seventy points in this first half
despite the slow start, and the Padres are winning again
at home. Manny Machado has homered. It is one nothing Pods.
As they start the sixth against the Cubs, the Padres
are eleven and oh at home.

Speaker 1 (33:21):
Still gonna still think Rocky is gonna get those four wins, Yes,
four wins. It is baseball.

Speaker 3 (33:25):
I'm very confident in baseball's history. Even okay, even well,
with the exception of the nineteen sixty two Mets, even
awful teams still win about fifty sixty games.

Speaker 1 (33:35):
Even with the Padres being allowed to play every game
at home this year to make the NL West race
a little bit closer even with that year. Okay with it?

Speaker 3 (33:42):
Well, if Bud Selig were still commissioner, they probably would
change that, so I would have a different opinion as
it stands now.

Speaker 4 (33:49):
No, I'm sticking with exit.

Speaker 1 (33:51):
Out about a fresca Jason Smith Steve de seger in
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story after the last couple of days. What is it?
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Steve Desager in for Harmon tonight. Grizzly's making a run
right now. They trail the Warriors seventy nine seventy two
midway through the third quarter. They've had a big start
to the third quarter, outscoring Golden State seventeen to twelve.

(36:14):
John Morant with fifteen, but it's Desmond Baine leading the way.
Was seventeen for Memphis for the Warriors. Jimmy Butler already
with twenty nine from that floor.

Speaker 3 (36:26):
Jason for one of his baskets, he gave it the
too small, too short celebration.

Speaker 4 (36:31):
Yeah yeah, Zachy seven.

Speaker 1 (36:33):
Four So yeah, fun one happening right now and again
Golden State leads at seventy nine seventy two. Draymond Green
has scored one bat has scored in this game. He
has a basket, a couple of free throws, and fourth
scoord Yeah, so he has four points and four fouls.
That's Draymond Green. So we'll have more on this game

(36:54):
coming up in de few minutes. Again, the winner moves
on into the seven slot and takes on the number
two seed Houston Rockets. Loser gets one more chance to
try to move on. So this is my favorite story
of the day because this this falls out of the
category of Hey, how do I passive aggressively let people
know that they can call me and will trade anybody.

(37:16):
Dolphins GM Chris Greer today said that they're looking to
trade Jalen Ramsey, three time All Pro cornerback, one of
the best cornerbacks in the game in the last decade.
Didn't talk about why they want to trade Jalen Ramsey,
but they did say that he did not request a
trade or a salary adjustment. This is the Dolphins now

(37:36):
thinking we need to move on from Jalen Ramsey.

Speaker 4 (37:39):
Not that he can't play football any they can't play.

Speaker 1 (37:41):
No, no, no, still good, but they want to move on.
Then he was asked about Tyreek Hill. I was trying
to trade Tyreek Hill, who just saw that. You know,
he had his own controversy now and has talked about
wanting to get dealt and Chris Grear this is where
it gets all the you know, passive aggressive moments of
it is that he said, hey, no, that's not something

(38:02):
we're thinking about right now, but if you want to
call me with a couple of first round picks. Then
we can talk. So what do you I love that,
I love it. No, we're not looking to trade Tyreek Hill,
but if you want to trade two first round picks
can be called. In other words, hey, I'll give you
the opening salvo for if you want Tyreek Hill, and

(38:23):
my my phone is open if you want to give
me a call to completely not looking to trade him,
but two first round picks. Ah, you could twist my armor,
and that we could trade Tyreek Hill.

Speaker 3 (38:33):
It was literally about half the game's Tyreek Hill played
last year. He was at forty yards receiving or less,
and almost every game in the final months of the
season was like that. We know, and we have seen
many times over how much of a game changer he
can be and what he can turn a short pass into.
But my goodness, this is an expensive guy. He needs

(38:53):
to deliver more than he did.

Speaker 1 (38:55):
Yeah, and this is you know, And I keep going
back this because I always like to think I do.
I have the answers for most things, but there's certain
things I go this is just a mystery, right, It's
just a mystery at this time a year ago. Okay,
not this, but let's say the off season a year ago,
the Dolphins were young, they were on the rise. They

(39:16):
had a franchise quarterback. You had a wide received Tyreek
Hill couldn't be stopped. You had a running back in
a chan who was gonna be the next great running
back in the game. And still you were gonna dominate.
You were you were it. Now you played the one
the game of the third coldest game ever in Kansas City.
But that's a thing. It's built into Miami having to
win on the road. We didn't hurt my game. Yeah, right,

(39:37):
but okay, I get it. But still a year ago,
at this point, you were young and on the rise
and loaded. You were absolutely loaded. And now here we
are a year later, and it's we have all kinds
of problems. We couldn't keep our guys on the field,
We faltered out of contention early, and now we're dumping people.
We're gonna dump Jalen Ramsey. You want to give me

(39:59):
a couple of first round picks, or call me about
Tyreek Hill. We can trade Tyreek Hill. Like in a year,
they've gone from young and dangerous to we're just a
mess and need to start over. Like how did they
get there so fast? I mean, I get it. This
is not the overall time you get. This is not
the time you get when Hey, a team has been
to the top of the mountain. They need to reassess

(40:21):
now because they have a lot of older players. They
got a jettison they have to let go, like the
forty nine ers had to let some guys go. Look,
the Jets decided, we can't do it with these over
the hill guys and we have to move on and
get younger like that. I understand. This is just in
the middle of when they were gonna be great and
Mike McDaniel was the next great head coach and the
capris that he wore a fantastic and the sneakers like everything.

(40:44):
A year ago at this time was look at, Hey,
we're gonna come take over the NFL with our speed
and our talent. And now it's hey, we have to
just completely retool. Now they let where he moster go.
We're gonna bring in new talent. We have to kind
of reload on the fly because what we have isn't working.
That's that's the biggest mystery in the NFL to me, Steve,
is how the Dolphins got to this point in a year.

(41:06):
We went from we are absolutely gonna be dominant to
now whoa, whoa, whoa, We're in trouble. Need to start
over now.

Speaker 3 (41:12):
I'm guessing the tipping point for you was when they
signed Zach Wilson as their back up quarters. That pretty
much is an indication.

Speaker 1 (41:19):
Now let me say that I'm waiting for the hey
and Zach and Twatt will battle it out in camp
to beat the number one quarterback.

Speaker 4 (41:25):
That's all right, drum up some headlines there.

Speaker 3 (41:28):
More seriously for the Miami Dolphins history, and I don't
think we need to go over how great they have
been in their history. It's just not recently great. And
we're extending to a decade and a half now since
they've been anything that you could call great. They haven't
earned a home game in the playoffs but one time
since two thousand and one, two thousand and one. That

(41:51):
was a two thousand and eight home loss when they
lost badly at home to the Ravens. And in fact,
since two thousand and eight, they've always lost at least
six games on their skin, including a couple of years
ago when they had to go to Kansas City for
that very cold game. So they've been I know, I
know they've been in the same division as Tom Brady
for a lot of years. He's not in the division anymore.

(42:12):
You've got to make your stand in your division, and
it opens up the whole postseason bracket for you.

Speaker 1 (42:18):
I really, I really, it's really hard for me to
believe that that how fast the Dolphins went from we
are going to We're gonna be the next great dollar.
You know now that that didn't work and now we
could really have to start over.

Speaker 3 (42:30):
NBA update. John Morant just turned his ankle landing taking
a shot at Golden State and they've had to pause
the game for him. But the Grizzlies are down two.

Speaker 1 (42:39):
Yeah, eighty two, eighty four and a half to go
on the third Moran is injured. They're looking at it
on replay. We'll have more on this big story coming
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