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April 17, 2025 • 37 mins

Today on The Jason Smith Show with Monse Bolaños (filling in for Mike Harmon) Jason and Monse celebrate a Big NFL Anniversary, how good the Mavericks look & NFL Insider Jason Cole stops by to talk NFL Draft rumors & Cam Ward’s new “teammate” comments!  

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(01:16):
We talked about that last hour on my never again list.
But so far, the Mavericks holding up my bold prediction.
They will come out of the playing round in the West.
They lead the Kings fifty five forty three. And oh boy, Jason,
what kind of night is ad having? Oh ad ad
four points, four rebounds, but Klay Thompson now with fourteen

(01:40):
he is four out of six from three point range.
It is balanced scoring for the Mavericks across the board.
It's a twelve point lead for them over Sacramento with
four and a half to go before halftime. Look I
told you was eighty and look eight can still wind
up having a big game. So I have big numbers,
but nobody had more pressure on them than Dallas and

(02:00):
to have a big showing they can own playing week
and show that our team is on the right path.
And here they are so far showing out and may
never get better than this, which is why I have
to talk about it right now.

Speaker 3 (02:11):
Oh my gosh, that's terrible. Never yes, stop it, I
mean it is.

Speaker 4 (02:16):
It is good, especially after losing Kyrie Irving because even
though Nico Harrison did the stupidest trade ever, this wasn't
the team that he was expecting to have. Kyrie Irving
makes a big difference on this roster, right, and so
this is not we are not actually seeing the products.
Because I do think that Anthony Davis with Kyrie Irving
could be a great one two punch. So for the MAVs,

(02:39):
something to hold on to for the season, just some
positive ending because they're not gonna be okay, see, but
they can get in the playoffs. They can get in
there and have some home games, and like you know, y'all,
fire need a.

Speaker 3 (02:51):
Couple more times.

Speaker 1 (02:52):
Lets get out of this route, get into the playoffs,
into the playoffs, get out of this purgatory where kind
of the playoffs not really the playoffs, get and everything
is fine own. This week the Lakers aren't playing Luca.
You don't have to watch the team play and watch
Luca play.

Speaker 4 (03:05):
Again.

Speaker 1 (03:06):
Everything is fine this week when these couple, you're all good.

Speaker 3 (03:09):
You get some more home games again.

Speaker 4 (03:11):
And the way the fans can yell fire an Eco somewhere,
that's really what they wait.

Speaker 1 (03:15):
You have wait till the Cowboys start oh to eight,
and they're gonna say to Jerry Jones, Jerry, how are
you gonna fix this, Well, we can fix it. But
how about Nico?

Speaker 3 (03:22):
How about Niko?

Speaker 1 (03:22):
Oh that was a bad trade, wasn't it. I made
some bad trades, but not like that one. Oh boy,
that's a bad one. I'll tell you.

Speaker 3 (03:29):
I mean better for real.

Speaker 4 (03:30):
If I was an owner GM anything, I would always
go back to.

Speaker 3 (03:34):
Well, at least I didn't do a Nico Harrison bit.

Speaker 1 (03:37):
You know.

Speaker 4 (03:37):
I feel like I'm gonna use that in my life,
even though I'm not a GM or an owner, Like
if somebody gets mad at me, like, well, at least
I didn't trade Luka Doncic, they'll.

Speaker 1 (03:44):
Be asking Page Beckers, Hey, you've lost four in a row.
How bad is it? Well, not as bad as not
as bad as what's going on with the MAVs. You
saw that trade, right, We never make a trade like that.
Ye forget it.

Speaker 4 (03:55):
I'm gonna squeeze all I can out of this in
my personal life.

Speaker 1 (04:00):
So all of more in the game. Again, they had
twelve point lead for the Mavericks just under four minutes
to go before halftime. But today is a huge anniversary
in the NFL, and we saw the beginning of a
career that honestly happened by accident, and I'll tell you,
I know that's a hot take. This guy's career was
completely an accident. I'll line it up why, But first

(04:23):
let's celebrate this moment from twenty five years ago where
during the NFL Draft you were probably sleeping in front
of your television when this happened. Back who all he
did was lead.

Speaker 5 (04:35):
This football team, put them in the right position more
times than I And when he got pulled from the
game Andrew Henson came in, Michigan football was.

Speaker 1 (04:42):
Not as good as it was when Brady was in
No question like smart experience.

Speaker 6 (04:45):
This past season, they cut his interception total from ninety
eight and a half lust twenty touchdown passes, only six
interceptions for a touchdown pass and actually called sixteen games
he started against Big ten opposition during his career accurate.
It was a very catchuple ball. They already knows one
to take a little off as well, and they got
to the key and he stands in that pocket.

Speaker 2 (05:04):
Very tough, No take, Cake hid.

Speaker 6 (05:05):
The question is gonna be mobility only runs a five
two five forty, and of course when you have those
edge pass rushers, you have to avoid the initial defensive end,
the initial pass rusher. Can he do that at the
pro level? Going to New England, Drew Bledsoe, his fortee
certainly isn't mobility.

Speaker 1 (05:19):
It's dropping back, throwing the football.

Speaker 6 (05:20):
Brady can do that, and certainly New England's offense already
designed for Bledsoe now comes Brady. Can't he overcome that
lack of mobility?

Speaker 5 (05:27):
Michael bishopsy young quarterback who's in the pipeline New England.
Interesting to see what happens. And you talk about a
school producing quarterbacks, you think of Drysbach, Greasy Gerback, Collins
Fort Michigan quarterbacks who are on NFL rosters. Now, Tom
Brady had picked one to nine to eight ghost to
the New England Patriots.

Speaker 1 (05:43):
So there was Mike Jerico and mel Kuiper, and mel
Kuiper pretty much on the money, right, Brady his whole
career no mobility. Now he figured out a way around it.
Obviously we hadn't. But for all of the time it's like,
this is like what do they call that? When you
remember something and you remember differently than how it actually happened?
What do they call that? What do they call that?

(06:03):
The is the Mandela effect? Right, yes, because I think
people have the Mandela effect for the beginning of Tom
Brady's career, like they think, oh, Tom Brady came in,
he wowed everybody, came in as a rookie, took over
and and and never looked back. No, that's not at
all how it happened. It's not at all how it happened.
I'm sorry, that's great, but that's not at all how

(06:25):
it happened. Okay, he comes in, he's drafted by the
Patriots in the sixth round. Okay, now, all you heard
Mike Treak mentioned Michael Bishop. Congratulations Michael Bishop at pick
number one ninety nine with Brady's you know, Tarico had
that too. But he came in, spent the whole year
rookie year, didn't play through one pass. Okay, comes in
next season as the backup. So okay, great, Well, they

(06:47):
had a bunch of guys and he comes in as
the backup. He was not on the on the cusp
of playing. He was not because the Patriots had just
given Drew Bledsoe ten years and one hundred million dollar contract.
He was not losing his job. He was not getting traded. Yes,
they started out zero to one in two thousand and
one and he gets hurt and Brady comes in and

(07:08):
takes over. But this wasn't where oh he like in
a week he was going ten years and one hundred
million dollars. Bill Belichick was not gonna get and risk
his last gasp coaching attempt because he really flamed out
in Cleveland. He was awful in Cleveland. He couldn't stand
he cut Vinnie Testaverdi, or he cut Bernie Cozar and
made Vinnie Testaverdi the starter, which is incredibly unpopular because

(07:31):
Bernie Cozar was mister Cleveland. So he's not gonna come
into New England and say I'm gonna do this again.
He saw what happened and how he got fired in
Cleveland because I'm gonna make a quarterback move that's not
popping hot to do it the right way. He wasn't
coming in saying, okay, Drew, you have two weeks. No,
he was the coach when they said here's a ten year,
one hundred million dollar contract, right, which is what the

(07:51):
big contract was for quarterbacks back then. Bledsoe was keeping
the job. Now obviously Bledsoe gets hurt Week two against
the Jets. He gets Railroad by Moe Lewis on a
huge hit out of bounds, winds up having a really
serious injury. He's out for the better part of the season.
Brady takes advantage, comes in and we see, oh my goodness,
what an incredible career he had. But this was not Hey,

(08:12):
eventually we would have seen this. This was a complete accident, right,
That's how it went. That's how Brady's career went. This
wasn't oh rookie, he comes in like suddeny, we're gonna
get him a job, like he's Jayden Daniels and he'd
taken all. That's not how it went at all.

Speaker 4 (08:25):
You know, it's crazy to think accident is a good
way to put it because this was never the plan.

Speaker 3 (08:29):
The Patriots didn't have a plan for him, that's the
whole thing.

Speaker 4 (08:32):
And for him to yes, take advantage of the opportunity
because obviously he delivered. He could have not delivered and
he wouldn't be Tom Brady the goat, Right, But it
is crazy to think that his career did start accidentally.

Speaker 3 (08:46):
Now it started that way.

Speaker 4 (08:48):
He actually delivered, so right, It's like it's not that
his career, his accolades and everything he's done as an accident.

Speaker 3 (08:54):
It's just the start of it was an accident.

Speaker 4 (08:55):
And it's really crazy to think of it like that
that you weren't really even planned.

Speaker 1 (09:00):
Or see yeah, no, no, no, no, you were just a guy.

Speaker 3 (09:02):
You were just a guy.

Speaker 1 (09:03):
You were a jag, you were just a guy.

Speaker 4 (09:05):
You were just there for because they had to fill
a spot in case. But like there was no plan
for him, no plan, and then all of a sudden
he was a plan.

Speaker 1 (09:13):
Yeah, and he was good at Michigan. He went back
and forth. Drew Henson was the guy that was supposed
to be the next great quarterback at Michigan, but he
couldn't really win the job. He wound up leaving to
go play baseball after a couple of years. And Brad
Brady had a good career. He had a good grip.
But here you are, end of the sixth round. And
it's not like he all of a sudden played his
way up into be He probably played his way up

(09:33):
into being Okay, if he's got a play, this is
our backup. Like that's as far as it went from him.
There was no big plan saying oh suddenly we're Because
you don't walk away from ten years that you just
gave him. It's not like it was in the middle
of they just gave it to him before they said okay.
But the interesting thing to me when I think about
this Jason Smith, Monty Bolognia's Fox Sports Radio, The thing

(09:54):
I think about is that everybody gets to the NFL
and every other position eventually gets a chance to be
on the field and show what you can do. Right. So,
if you're a defensive back and you're taking in the
fourth round, right, you're gonna get on the field. You're
gonna get a chance to play. You'll get to impress
the coaches. Maybe it takes a little bit of time,
but you work your way from being a special teams player. Hey,

(10:15):
now you get on the field in dime packages. Now
you're the slot corner. Wait night, and after three years, whoa,
this guy's one of the best shutdown corners in the game. Like,
it doesn't matter where you get in the league, you
will get on the field and play and have a
chance to prove yourself. Every position except for quarterback, right,
because if here's Tom Brady and if Moe Lewis doesn't
run into Drew Bledsoe and knock him silly because that

(10:38):
figures the Jets are the ones who responsible for the
Tom Brady era, Like we may never see Brady's career,
and it makes you think of how many quarterbacks that
come out of the draft that either never get a
chance or don't get in the right system and we
don't see their career right, Like Gino Smith now is
gonna make two hundred and fifty million dollars the last
five years of his career because hey, he bounced around

(11:01):
for a decade, they couldn't find the right fit for him,
and suddenly, whoa, look here it is after a decade.
It works in Seattle. You get paid now, you get
paid again when you go to Vegas. Same thing for
Sam Darnold. You were on four teams and you couldn't
do it for any of them, but whoa, hey, we
finally got you in the right position with Minnesota and
now three years, one hundred and ten million dollar contract
to go be the quarterback of the Seahawks. So you

(11:22):
have guys that bounce around that need to get in
that system. You also have guys that you never know
because they never get on the field, Like could Josh
Rosen have had a great career at some point because
if he found a way to get on the field
or where the coach of like, there's so many guys
you go because Brady was a sixth rounder, he was
an afterthought. And guys get taken like that all the time,
and they cycle in and out of the league and

(11:42):
they wind up on a team and you're the third
string for a year or two and then somebody else
gets drafted. You don't move along as what they think
you are, and they're not gonna keep you on. They're
not gonna pay you more. Like how many careers would
we miss out on of quarterbacks because they just don't
get a chance to get on the field.

Speaker 3 (11:57):
To that will never really know it, will never know
that ans.

Speaker 4 (12:00):
But that's the other side of it, right, It's like
Tom Brady fell into a situation where he also had
Bill Belichick as a coach.

Speaker 3 (12:07):
That's the other side of the situation.

Speaker 4 (12:09):
Wasn't just him somebody getting hurt and him stepping in
at the moment. You were also in a really good
organization to have that opportunity, because we've seen other players
step in, but they're not in a good situation and
they can't thrive and we won't know really how many
backups in quarterbacks, because you're right, other positions you almost
get like a fair shot at showing your skills. It

(12:29):
may take time, like you said, but you're gonna get
to show off your skills and it's gonna be noticed
by somebody. Right With quarterbacks, how many of them just
sit there and never ever get an opportunity, Or how
about a quarterback that does get the opportunity and then
is behind a terrible o line or behind a terrible
organization and they actually can't thrive. It just there's so

(12:50):
many things that have to go right. It seems like
when it comes to finding these not good quarterbacks but
great quarterbacks, like you can be good part of a
great organization and then all of a sudden you're great.

Speaker 3 (13:03):
Yeah, right, And so it's just it's sad.

Speaker 1 (13:05):
It's sad well because there's no way to really think,
say yourself far into the field. Like you can play
other positions during during training camp, during the preseason, you
can play your way onto the field. But a quarterback,
unless you see them do it when the footballs fly
for real, you could be the best August quarterback in
the game. Hey, hey, in August started three games through

(13:26):
nine touchdowns. But are they gonna trust you to be
on the field.

Speaker 7 (13:29):
No.

Speaker 1 (13:29):
You only get on the field if something happens to
the guy in front of you, if he doesn't play
very well, if he gets injured. That's how you need
to get on that's your break. You need to get
on the field. You can do everything you need to
do as a quarterback, but unless you get a chance
to do it on the field over a period of time, like,
that's gonna be it, Like you're never gonna get a shot. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (13:48):
And when you sent this over, when I started thinking,
I was like, is there a quarterback? I'm thinking that
like maybe could have been done more.

Speaker 1 (13:55):
No, you know why because you don't know, because you
don't know who they are.

Speaker 4 (13:57):
There could be anybody, right, because the story is that
he was a backup and came off the bench because
I was you know, I instantly did think of Andrew Luck,
which is not a perfect example, but I do feel
like Andrew Luck because he was not part of a
good organization that took care of him. He ended his
career because he got hit too many times. He was like,
I'm tired of this. This hurts I don't want to
do it like he who knows if he would have

(14:18):
been part of a different organization, what Andrew Luck would
be today.

Speaker 1 (14:22):
Oh, the rest of his career played past the age
of thirty.

Speaker 4 (14:25):
Absolutely, But that's not the right example, because again tom
Brady was an afterthought.

Speaker 3 (14:31):
It was a backup.

Speaker 4 (14:32):
He was not supposed to be playing when Andrew Luck
was a starter. So I really couldn't think of one.
And like you said, you don't see them. It's impossible
to figure out which backup was is actually a hidden
gem that has just never been given the opportunity.

Speaker 1 (14:44):
The only place that happens is on the internet, where
we need this guy needs to start. I saw him
in seven on seven yesterday in the morning, and he
was fifteen out of eighteen and two touchdowns. Like, yeah,
that's great. Yeah, that's the only place backup quarterbacks can
thrive is on the internet. Because I hate the guy
we have, I love the guy behind us.

Speaker 4 (15:03):
That's the only place that guess, that's so true, that's
so true.

Speaker 3 (15:07):
But yeah, you only really get to see a.

Speaker 4 (15:09):
Real quarterbacks play in live games, not at practice.

Speaker 1 (15:13):
Practice is not the same the accidental cret tom Brady's
career we saw by accident.

Speaker 3 (15:18):
By accident about that, I know that's crazy.

Speaker 1 (15:21):
Fox Sports Radio, Jason Smith, Moncie Belognos, Monzi. I know,
I know there's no trending right now because but I
want to let you know because I'm living and dying
with this game right now being my surprise team to
come out of the playing round in the West. How
are things going for the Mavericks at halftime against the Kings.

Speaker 4 (15:37):
Well, let me tell you they scored forty four points
in the second quarter compared to the King's nineteen points,
So at halftime they're up seventy one to forty eight.

Speaker 1 (15:46):
My Mavericks not too Shaicks, Mavericks, Maverick.

Speaker 4 (15:50):
And like you said, you know, we talked to Anthony Davis,
had to be the guy, but he's not doing too shabby.

Speaker 3 (15:54):
It's Klay Thompson right now as the leader.

Speaker 1 (15:55):
Who scorer, well eighty eighty had seven in the last
few minutes, so he's up to twelve and five. But
look at look at.

Speaker 3 (16:00):
The map, Look at the map.

Speaker 1 (16:01):
Look at my man Nico Harrison right now, he's pouring
champagne down his throat right now, going this could be
as good as against right now.

Speaker 4 (16:09):
You're actually sitting in the arena, not hiding in the halls,
did you see?

Speaker 1 (16:14):
Yeah? Yeah, Well, because he's on the road, right, he's
on the road. No one cares. They all love me
here because.

Speaker 4 (16:18):
I play Luca, when in reality that everybody's looking at
him with the side eye, like, is that the guy
who traded Luka?

Speaker 3 (16:25):
Doncic Oh my.

Speaker 1 (16:26):
God, let's chant fire Niko? Why not? Let's do it exit?
How about a fresca exit? Monzie Bolangos, Jason Smith, Monsey
and from Mike Harmon Tonight. Coming up next, we got
more NFL. Did we just find out who's going number
one overall? Because of what the guy who could be
going number one overall said? That's straight ahead right here,

(16:46):
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Speaker 3 (17:04):
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(17:25):
the top of the screen, so lock it in and
rip the knob off. So halftime things look great for
the Mavericks. Yeay baby, as good as it gets. What
about the NFL Draft? Big drama today? Cam Ward is
asked about who his favorite receivers and running backs are
in the NFL. Who are the best running backs receivers?

(17:47):
And he says the two guys that Titans have and
two guys the Titans have it what both positions and
wide receiver running back. So I think he knows where
he's going in the draft. Joining us now on the hotline.
Nobody better to break it down longtime NFL inside of
check him out a thirty third team on Twitter at
Jason Cole sixty two graduate of the incredible institution that

(18:08):
is Stanford University. It is Jason Cole. What's happening man.

Speaker 7 (18:17):
There in the ac Yeah, Okay, it's good. Yeah, that's good,
very good. You know, and we know who we're where
certain family members stand in that one, So there you go.

Speaker 1 (18:31):
Sure, sure, and you have Andrew Luck who could be
the quarterback and run the football program.

Speaker 7 (18:38):
You may need that. That's quite desperately as a matter
of fact. All right, so love, and you know, nothing
wrong with you know, in the m I L atmosphere,
you know, paying down who's a grad student. You know
we can do that.

Speaker 1 (18:58):
Yeah, well I'm sure. I'm sure they're still paying him
for money, was there? You know, it's like we're going
to keep your payments going. If that's okay by you.

Speaker 7 (19:05):
Everybody deserves it, certainly answer.

Speaker 1 (19:10):
All right, So speaking of the draft here, you know,
we saw today cam Ward goes on a live stream
playing video games and has said, hey, who are the
best running backs in the game? And he said Tony
Pollard and Spears? All right, who's the best wide receiver?
He said, Calvin Ridley and also, uh yeah, well yeah
justin Jefferson's good too, but Trey Burks is really good too.
So I'm pretty sure he's going to the Titans with

(19:32):
the number one pick.

Speaker 7 (19:33):
Now, well, I'm sure that they wants to go to
the Titans overall. Pick I do have to I have
to wonder about his analysis of NFL personnel when he says,
to the best in the league. But yeah, I got
how're you supposed to answer that question? I, you know,

(19:53):
I just don't. I don't quite get it. I still
think Tennessee is sitting there going, hey, does somebody wants
to stick? That's that's that is the overarching you gut
feeling I get every time the Titans talk about quarterback

(20:16):
is like they're really trying to sell the idea that, oh,
we really really like this guy, but well somebody can
get him, anybody really wants him like that. That's like
they really want to try, and I just don't think
it's going to happen because I think that the conclusion
is that, yeah, these gays are all right, but it

(20:38):
really is like the EJ. Manual Gino Smithcraft where they're
just not that good. Just but kind of thing may
be forced him to take in the quarterback because they
don't like the other options are not overwhelming.

Speaker 1 (20:52):
Wow, So who's who's coming up then to number one
that's going to say, hey, oh yeah we want that.

Speaker 7 (20:56):
Pick I don't think there's anybody. I think that people
are like, Okay, if the quarterbacks fall to us and
we would like him enough, okay, maybe we'll think about it,
but we're not paying the kind of freight that it
costs to get up to number one, you know, like
the usual packaging have three number ones and the number

(21:17):
two and a number three and something like that. We're
just not doing that for a guy like cam Ward.
We're just not that would have it would have been
done probably weeks ago if anybody was that desperate to
go get this guy. Because you remember back to you know,
the year like got then when when Goff came out,
it was in a couple other times when teams desperately

(21:40):
wanted a quarterback, they made the decision early to go
up and go get him and to declare. So Tennessee
basically doesn't have any suitors who realistically want them to
go get the number one overall picks because they're looking
at cam Ward going, yeah, he's kind of cool like that,
and that's it, like that, Yeah, if you want to

(22:03):
take them, great, if you leave them for us, okay,
we'll think about it. But he's not overwhelming. None of
these quarterbacks are and that's the problem with this year's draft.

Speaker 3 (22:14):
Hey, Jason, hope you're having a good and night.

Speaker 4 (22:16):
No team is desperate for a quarterback, but maybe the
Saints feel a little bit desperate now that there's so
many questions surrounding Derek Carr.

Speaker 3 (22:25):
You think they just hang with the ninth pick and
hope that there's a quarterback.

Speaker 4 (22:29):
But what if both quarterbacks go early? What if your
door Sanders and Camlard both go early.

Speaker 7 (22:34):
Look Orleans realizes they're in teardown load m h and
it's like, okay, let's wear I tear this thing down
to the studs. Let's not worry too much about it. Again.
If the quarterback is there and we happen to like them, okay,
we'll give it a shot. But we have so much

(22:57):
to fix because our is so out of control that
we're just in the position to take the best player
and the accumulates the most picks, and we're going to
be training guys off anyways that we can take. You know,
this is this is like they're they're like a high
school student that decides, yeah, maybe I should just take

(23:20):
a gap here. The Saints are in gap year status.

Speaker 1 (23:26):
What are if the Saints are in gap year status,
what are the Jets in a gap decade?

Speaker 6 (23:31):
What do they?

Speaker 7 (23:31):
What are they? They call it a gap hero So yeah,
it's like that, you get you get thirty years off.

Speaker 1 (23:45):
Okay, because that makes sense, that makes sense. We're just
we're we're still finding out who we are. We're trying
to figure out. I don't know who I am. I
got to figure out that my identity, what kind of
person I want to be, what kind of team I
want to be? Sure?

Speaker 7 (23:56):
Uh? You by the team in ninety nine ninety eight,
that's when that's when the gap era actually started.

Speaker 1 (24:04):
No, wait, now we went to back to back AFC
title games in twenty ten and twenty eleven. I want
to say it started like you know in twenty twelve.

Speaker 7 (24:12):
Yeah, you got a little exception there with with Yeah,
with with with Ryan. Yeah you got a couple of years.
You got the Sanchise years. Like nobody defines the cap
the whole concept of the gap era, and Sanchiz doesn't

(24:36):
it like that really but franchise, Like even when he
does games now, it's like, oh man, I did this,
that was cool, Like that's right, if I did it.
I played in the NFL. Let me tell you about
because it was so cool, like he really was the

(24:59):
gap here, a guy for the Jets. He defines the
whole gap era.

Speaker 1 (25:04):
All right, now, let me ask you the speaking of
the Jets, this is something that's been a topic of
conversation now the last couple of days. So next week
NFL Draft. You know, we have our normal show here
on the NFL Draft. We are it on Fox Jay
Glazer and Jenny Taff and LeVar Arrington and usually we
have a GM comes in too and does the first
round of the draft. This year, Joe Douglas is going
to be here, like what like what what? What do

(25:25):
you think? I don't know how I should act. I
don't know what I should say? Well what should I do?

Speaker 2 (25:31):
Wow?

Speaker 7 (25:31):
This this is troubling. I mean like this is a
servant out of my variant. Yeah you do, Like, do dude,
make a couple of snarky remarks along the way, hold
out until the end and then just kind of unload
and you have this kind of gestalt moment. I mean,

(25:53):
is it is it really like that, like where you
just put it all and go and get that out
or do you act professional? And because that's tough for you.

Speaker 1 (26:07):
Monty said, I should I should ask him to autograph
a lot of stuff. Maybe maybe I wear a throwback
Aaron Glenn jersey into the show on Thursday.

Speaker 7 (26:16):
Well, you know you can do the jersey, especially the
previous the final year that was that was that was plastic.

Speaker 1 (26:29):
I'll never forget. You were the guy that told me
it's not going to be the same. It's not going
to be the same. Trust me, it's not going to
be the same. Like, yeah, what do you know he's
the best defensive back I've ever seen. Oh no, he
just took the money. Okay, all right.

Speaker 7 (26:41):
Great, okay, catch out. It's yes. I remember being in
in his agent's apartment when he got that deal done
and it was like cash stop maybe yeah, Like it
was just like, okay, that's that's all your I mean,

(27:01):
you had a charge to plain foot plan for the
Patriots and trying to win another championship or go back
to New York because you wanted to go have some
more fun, and he went back to New York because
you just wanted to have fun, that's what you and
you said all the right things, but you just wanted
to go back to New York. That's all you wanted
to do.

Speaker 1 (27:21):
Yeah, just like her, Just like you and I. I'd
love to go back to college. I want to go
out there and have some of those days.

Speaker 7 (27:27):
Sure, but it's not going back to New York to
go play for the Jets. It's going back to New
York because you like to hang out in like Soco,
like that's what you want to do. That's not it's
not about us all. That's the whole time.

Speaker 1 (27:43):
He's on Twitter at Jason Cole sixty two. That is
at Jason Cole sixty two. Check him out thirty thirteen
again and again. Alumni of Stanford University, Jake Cole, Take
it easy, buddy, we'll talk to you next on all
right there, He goes, I'll never forget this, Montsie because

(28:05):
when when when Dureu reeves was when he came back
to the Jets the second times on the cover of
Sports Illustrated. Everything was great. I'll never forget. Jason Cole
comes on the show and we're talking to you, He goes, Okay,
I'm gonna tell you something that's you're not gonna make
you happy. Go budd, He goes, I don't think you're
gonna see the same Revis. I said, why he goes up.
I know a lot of people people I talk to
I trust, saying he's not working out as hard, He's

(28:27):
not gonna be the same guy. Just watch John. I'm like, no,
come on, Revis, tell me that, yes, tell me that
res is the best. He's all I have. And sure enough,
he was terrible and he was done, and it was
I got the money and he and he was finished.

Speaker 3 (28:40):
That that sucks. I'm sorry.

Speaker 4 (28:42):
I was glad to hear what he said about the
Saints because I told Carrie Rhodes that the Saints just
need to be like, Okay, we're just gonna go through
the year, you know, Like I know, I know, you
don't want to admit that you're not gonna win to
your fans, but there's you have so many things to fix.
Their dead cap hit is like over fifty million. And
I was like, quarterbacks not gonna change the Saints. You know,
they're not one quarterback away. And care Roads is like, no,

(29:04):
you can't do that.

Speaker 3 (29:05):
You gotta so I've got that. He kind of said
that there is a gap year because that's what it's like,
a That's what I was thinking. The Saints should do
so I'm gon to hear that.

Speaker 1 (29:14):
Sorry, brie Leanna, who's filling in for Justin tonight, is
a Saints fan. Yeah, okay, I have good news for
you though, because of all that. Well, now that cam
Ward basically was asked who your favorite receivers and running
backs already mentioned everybody on the Titan. Okay, uh, you
know he's going number one overall. The next guarantee that
I have for you quarterback wise, that I feel the

(29:35):
best about. The next guarantee at number nine, the Saints
will take Jackson Dart Jacks because he's It's insane. It's
in a no man's land where okay, you know, Sanders
will probably be off the boards even if he is.
They have spent so much time with Jackson Dart over
the course of the past couple of months, and he's
the quarterback that's rising the Mississippi to New Orleans pipeline
has been very popular in the past. It'll it'll win

(29:57):
the fans, it'll it'll win the organization that they have quarterback.
They're able to draft and look at quarterback's got to
be a gut feel and you got to understand that
maybe it works. Maybe it doesn't, but you're gonna have
that that third best quarterback sitting there, and no one's
gonna jump up ahead of you to draft him. And
behind him there's too many teams, there's too many, too
far for them to go up to come up to
get him. So the Saints are kind of in that

(30:17):
sweet spot there at nine. I get they're hoping and
they're not, you know, tipping their hand at all, because
you got to have eight picks go in front of you.
But I'm gonna I could guarantee you Jackson Dart at
nine to the Saints, that's gonna happen.

Speaker 3 (30:28):
Do you think if Shador is available at that point? Yes,
you think they take Jackson?

Speaker 1 (30:32):
Yeah? Because they they spend so much time with him.
It's like, boy, Shador is here, and do we take
him because of the draft stock where we're supposed to go.
It's like, now you spent all this time with jack
he was your guy, right, he's your guy. They'll take
Jackson Dark, They'll take Dark.

Speaker 3 (30:46):
Yeah, that's interesting. Harek Carr, So I do do you
love Secer Rattler?

Speaker 5 (30:52):
Though?

Speaker 7 (30:52):
So?

Speaker 3 (30:52):
I mean the gapier thing.

Speaker 1 (30:53):
I'm not a gay, Okay, I'm gona tell you that
Spencer Rattler's not happening. Spencer Rattlers.

Speaker 4 (30:58):
But if we tackle at nine and then just wrote
it out and maybe got Kyle mccorlick in the second round, Well,
if you.

Speaker 1 (31:05):
Get Kyle McCory, it's going to be a pro bowler.
But you just said, you just said Spencer Rattler, Like
you know, I.

Speaker 3 (31:11):
Have a T shirt, Jason, I'm not gonna lie.

Speaker 1 (31:13):
He's not gonna be good just because you have a
T shirt. If that was the case, the Mets have
won eight World Series in a row. Every time I
hear this song, I think if I am legend. When
Will Smith is telling the story of Bob Marley, Yes,
tell you what Bob Marley stood for. Let me tell
you all this stuff Bob Marley did this. It was
like it was so sad Sam when he put his
dog down. Yeah, whoa spoiler, it's old, spoiler old. I mean,

(31:34):
really that was sad. Here's how bad bad it was.
I summer the dog's name was Sam. Wow, that's how
bad that's I've literally watched John Wick kill thousands of people,
but I watched one dog going. I'm I know, I know,
I mean I'm glad they're redoing I am legend and
they're going to go back to the alternate ending. Yeah,
oh yeah, there reading, it's all happening, kidding like they
were doing it with Will Smith. Yeah, they're doing it

(31:55):
because and well obviously how it ended. Okay, well how
can you have Will Smith? But the alternate is Will
Smith makes it and then you know, he goes into
that room whatever blows up the thing. You know, they
all that, and he makes it, and that's the alternate ending.
But when they tested it, they felt the other one
was more true to the story. So they did that.
But now they're going to redo it and it's going

(32:15):
to be the The alternate ending is now canon.

Speaker 6 (32:19):
Wow.

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So now, so Will Smith could be in the movie.
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know the New York Giants listened to the show. Okay,
Yesterday Travis Hunter uh had a pretty quizzical statement that
he made in a podcast about his future if his
new NFL team doesn't allow him to play both sides

(33:01):
of the football. He said, I'd rather retire than play
just one side of the ball. Right, I've been doing
this my whole life. I want to go out and
do it. And we talked about it yesterday and I said,
of course, you let him do it. This is why
you're drafting now drafted just to me, you're drafting he
can do great players in one Why would you not
do that? It's stupid? But why would he say that?
And I said, I guarantee you it's because he, either

(33:23):
either personally or through back channels, heard that there's a
team that could take him that is really not on
board with that plan, that maybe will play a little
bit of offense, but cornerback is where you're gonna be.
He's sending a message to somebody, and lo and behold
what happened today. Giants GM, Joe Shane, Giants Pig Third.
They could be sitting there at Travis Hunter. He said, oh, hey, hey, hey, hey.

(33:46):
Oh by the way, I don't know why I'm asked
saying this, but if we got Travis Hunter, he can
play on both sides of the ball.

Speaker 8 (33:51):
Travis is a unique individual, you know again, and they've
said it at the Owners. Mean, he's going to watch
a lot of plays on him, so he's he's fun
to watch. It's it's unique that you know, the ball skills,
the rout ability and then also the ability to go
to the other side and you know, play corner like
you just don't see that very often. You know, a
lot of times if these guys can't catch or they
can't play receiver, then they get moved to dB. But
you know, this guy can do it all. So he's

(34:13):
also you know, he's a great kid, and so it'd
be hard to keep him off the field. And you
know he's motivated to play both ways. So you know, again,
you always worried about the length of the season, you know,
at the NFL seventeen games and training camp, and you're
just if he gets hurt doing something that he's not
doing full time, you know, you're going to kick yourself.

(34:35):
But he's he's a unique athlete that I think we'll
be able to do both.

Speaker 1 (34:39):
So Travis, Hey, hey, hey, just want you know, man,
you'll play both sides about no need of this retire
stuff everything. You'll play both sides of the football. Yeah, guarantee.
That was a message being sent to the Giants.

Speaker 4 (34:50):
Whoever wrote that wrote it real well, they knew exactly
what they were trying to hit, what message they were
trying to get across slipped in.

Speaker 3 (34:57):
Great kid, Oh that was so well done.

Speaker 4 (35:00):
Good job, because yeah, I agree, he must have heard
something that there was someone out there hesitant to let
him play on both size the ball.

Speaker 3 (35:09):
But you have to let him and then see how
it goes. How are you not going to start him
to do that? I don't know. That makes no sense.

Speaker 1 (35:15):
Well, there's two ways to do it, and that's why
I said throw because the way the first way to
do it is Okay, you come in and slowly, we'll
parse it out for you. But that's gonna be a
lot of hesitancy because he's so up on I want
to play both side the ball. When do you allow
him to play more snaps? You gotta prove you can
do this, Prove you can do this. It's much easier
to say, no, you're gonna come out and play both
sides of the ball. You're gonna play un till your
tongue is hanging out, and if we need to dial

(35:36):
it back, then you will see the evidence that we
need to dial it back a little bit. Until you
either get more comfortable with game plans, get used to
NFL life, whatever it is. We can do this route
the entire summer and go on, and then it's easier
because then he's on the same page with you, understanding,
Oh boy, yeah I blew that coverage, or I did this,
I did this maybe a little bit less dur in
a game. I was tired on this play. I didn't
run this route how it's supposed to. Yeah, okay, maybe

(35:59):
a little bit less and that it's okay, you understand,
and things can go from There's no reason why you
can't do it that way. Again. That's why he's so special.
It's why you're drafting him because you want it. It's
like the teams that draft a mobile quarterback and say
we're gonna turn you into a pocket passer, which used
to happen all the time. Why are you doing that?
This is what makes this guy special. Let him run
the football. Let him do it. Now, teams are like, yeah, yeah, yeah,

(36:20):
we're gonna completely build the offense around what you do.
It's the same thing for Travis Hunter.

Speaker 7 (36:25):
Let him.

Speaker 1 (36:25):
This is why you're Drafted's why he's the number two,
number three overall pick, because he's a Heisman Trophy order
and he can do both. They could be the Sho
Hao Tani of football exactly. Let him do it.

Speaker 4 (36:33):
Stop trying to force him into a smaller box that
he doesn't want to be in. The normal thing is
for him to go out there and do both. Let
the normal thing happen. And then if it doesn't work out,
like I love what you just said, Like what if
he realizes, oh.

Speaker 3 (36:46):
Maybe this is more than I thought that I can handle.

Speaker 4 (36:48):
But let him realize that, because right now he thinks
he can do it, and there's no reason for us
to think he can't. Wasn't he the first guy to
win Best Receiver and Best dB, right, like the first
player to do that. So let him go out and
start from the beginning, Hot and heavy, don't don't ease
into it. I'm with you, Jason, Hot and heavy. Get

(37:09):
him out there and let him see what he can do.

Speaker 1 (37:11):
I like how he said, don't put me in a box.
That sounds like that sounds like something maybe you have
uttered in a conversation off the air somewhere else. Oh,
put me in a box.

Speaker 3 (37:21):
Don't put him in a box. Don't put him in
a box. He can do it all. Let him do
it just like you said. Show o, Tommy, come on,
why not?

Speaker 1 (37:29):
He can be that guy telling you that that's why
you drafted him. He can be that guy. Exit. How
about a fresca exit Monte Bologos, The Jason Smith Show
with Monsey and from Mike Harmon. We got more NFL
on the way. Coming up next. We have an unbelievably
large anniversary to talk about in the NFL, about a
career that we almost didn't see. Yeah, that means a

(37:50):
hot take is coming. That's next. Jason Smith, Monty Bologos,
this is Fox Sports Radio.
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