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April 17, 2025 40 mins

Jason & Monse talk about Tom Brady’s NFL Draft Anniversary, NFL Insider Jason Cole joins the show to talk about Cam Ward’s social media post about Titans, the Nico Iamaleava drama, some possibilities when it comes to Saints, & MORE!  

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 1 (00:27):
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(00:48):
talked about that last hour on my never again list.
But so far the Mavericks holding up my bold prediction.
They will come out of the playing round in the West.
They lead the Kings fifty five forty three and oh boy, Jason,
what kind of night does ad having? Oh Ad ad
four points four rebounds, But Klay Thompson now with fourteen

(01:12):
he is four out of six from three point range.
It is balanced scoring for the Mavericks across the board.
It's a twelve point lead for them over Sacramento with
four and a half to go before halftime. Look I
told you was ady, and look, ad can still wind
up having a big game. So I have big numbers,
but nobody had more pressure on them than Dallas and
to have a big showing they can own playing week

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and show that our team is on the right path.
And here they are so far showing out. It may
never get better than this, which is why I have
to talk about it right now.

Speaker 4 (01:43):
Oh my gosh, that's terrible. It could be never.

Speaker 1 (01:45):
This could be as good as a guess.

Speaker 4 (01:46):
Yes, stop it, I mean it is.

Speaker 5 (01:48):
It is good, especially after losing Kyrie Irving because even
though Nico Harrison did the stupidest trade ever, this wasn't
the team that he was expecting to have. Kyrie Irving
makes a big difference on roster, right, and so this
is not we are not actually seeing the products. Because
I do think that Anthony Davis with Kyrie Irving could
be a great one two punch, So for the MAVs

(02:11):
something to hold onto for the season. Just some positive
ending because they're not gonna be okay, see, but they
can get in the playoffs. They can get in there
and have some home games, and like you know, y'all
fire n a couple more times.

Speaker 1 (02:24):
Just get out of this route, get into the playoffs,
into the playoffs, Get out of this purgatory where kind
of the playoffs not really the playoffs, get and everything
is fine own this week the Lakers aren't playing Luca.
You don't have to watch the team play and watch
Luca play again. Everything is fine week when these couple
you're all good.

Speaker 5 (02:42):
You get some more home games again, and that way
the fans can yell fire a Nico somewhere exact that's
really what they were.

Speaker 1 (02:46):
Wait you have wait till the Cowboys start oh to eight,
and they're gonna say to Jerry Jones, Jerry, how are
you gonna fix this? Well, we can fix it, but
how about Nico?

Speaker 4 (02:54):
How about Niko?

Speaker 1 (02:54):
Oh that was a bad trade, wasn't it not. I
made some bad trades, but not like that one. Help bad.
That's a bad one, I'll tell you. I mean.

Speaker 5 (03:01):
But of for real, if I was an owner GM anything,
I would always go back.

Speaker 4 (03:06):
To well at least I didn't do a Nico Harrison.

Speaker 5 (03:09):
You know, I feel like I'm gonna use that in
my life, even though I'm not a GM or an owner,
Like if somebody gets mad at me, like, well, at
Leasta did in trade Luka Doncic, They'll.

Speaker 1 (03:16):
Be asking Paige Becker's, hey, you've lost four in a row.
How bad is it? Well, not as bad as not
as bad as what's going on with the MAVs. You
saw that trade, right, we never make a trade like that. Yeah,
forget it.

Speaker 5 (03:27):
I'm gonna squeeze all I can out of this in
my personal life.

Speaker 1 (03:32):
So well of Moore in the game again, they had
twelve point lead for the Mavericks just under four minutes
to go before halftime. But today is a huge anniversary
in the NFL, and we saw the beginning of a
career that honestly happened by accident. And I'll tell you,
I know that's a hot take. This guy's career was
completely an accident. I'll line it up why. But first

(03:55):
let's celebrate this moment from twenty five years ago where
during the NFL Draft you were probably sleeping in front
of your television when this happened.

Speaker 6 (04:05):
Back who all he did was lead this football team,
put them in the right position more times than I.
And when he got pulled from the game Andrew Henson
came in, Michigan football was not as good as.

Speaker 1 (04:15):
It was when Brady was in No question.

Speaker 3 (04:16):
Mike smart experience.

Speaker 7 (04:18):
This past season he cut his interception total from ninety
eight and a half loust twenty touchdown passes, only six
interceptions for a touchdown pass and actually as sixteen games
he started against Big ten opposition during his career, accurate.
It was a very catchuple ball and he already knows
when to take a little off as.

Speaker 3 (04:34):
Well, and he that's the key, and he stands in
that pocket very tough.

Speaker 2 (04:36):
He'll take a hit.

Speaker 3 (04:37):
Question is going to.

Speaker 7 (04:38):
Be mobility only runs a five two five forty, and
of course when you have those edge pass rushers, you
have to avoid the initial defensive end, the initial pass rusher.

Speaker 1 (04:46):
Can he do that at the pro level?

Speaker 7 (04:48):
Going to New England, Drew Bledsoe his fortes certainly isn't mobility.

Speaker 1 (04:51):
It's dropping back, throwing the football.

Speaker 7 (04:53):
Brady can do that, and certainly New England's offense already
designed for Bledsoe, now comes Brady can't he overcome that
lack of mobility?

Speaker 6 (04:59):
Michael Bishops young quarterback who's in the pipeline New England.
Interesting to see what happens. And you talk about a
school producing quarterbacks, you think of Drysboch, Greasy Girback Collins
Fort Michigan quarterbacks who were on NFL rosters. Now Tom
Brady had picked one to nine to eight ghost to
the New England Patriots.

Speaker 1 (05:15):
So there was Mike Erico when mel Kuiper and mel
Kiper pretty much on the money, right, Brady his whole career,
no mobility. Now he figured out a way around it.
Obviously we had. But for all of the time, it's
like this is like what do they call that when
you remember something and you remember it differently than how
it actually happened. What do they call that? What do
they call that? The is Mandela effect?

Speaker 7 (05:38):
Right?

Speaker 1 (05:38):
Yes, because I think people have the Mandela effect for
the beginning of Tom Brady's career, Like they think, oh,
Tom Brady came in, he wowed everybody, came in as
a rookie, took over and and never looked back. No,
that's not at all how it happened. It's not at
all how it happened. I'm sorry. That's great, but that's
not at all how it happened. Okay, he comes in,

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he's drafted by the Patriots in the sixth round. Okay,
now you heard Mike Triker mentioned Michael Bishop. Congratulations Michael
Bishop at pick number one ninety nine was Brady. You
know Tariko had that too, But he came in, spent
the whole year rookie year, didn't play through one pass. Okay,
comes in next season as the backup. So okay, great, Well,

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they had a bunch of guys and he comes in
as the backup. He was not on the cusp of playing.
He was not because the Patriots had just given Drew
Bledsoe ten years and one hundred million dollar contract. He
was not losing his job. He was not getting traded. Yes,
they started out zhen to one in two thousand and
one and he gets hurt and Brady comes in and

(06:40):
takes over. But this wasn't where oh he like in
a week. He was ten years and one hundred million dollars.
Bill Belichick was not gonna get and risk his last
gasp coaching attempt because he really flamed out in Cleveland.
He was awful in Cleveland. He couldn't stand he cut
Vinnie Testaverdi or he cut Bernie co and made Vinie

(07:00):
Testaverdy the starter, which is incredibly unpopular because Bernie Cozar
was mister Cleveland. So he's not gonna come into New
England and say I'm gonna do this again. He saw
what happened and how he got fired in Cleveland because
I'm gonna make a quarterback move that's not popping it,
know how to do it the right way. He wasn't
coming in saying, okay, Drew, you have two weeks. No,
he was the coach when they said here's a ten year,

(07:21):
one hundred million dollar contract, right, which is what the
big contract was for quarterbacks back then, Bledsoe was keeping
the job. Now, obviously Bledsoe gets hurt Week two against
the Jets. He gets railroaded by Moe Lewis on a
huge hit out of bounds, winds up having a really
serious injury. He's out for the better part of the season.
Brady takes advantage, comes in and we see, oh my goodness,
what an incredible career he had. But this was not Hey.

(07:44):
Eventually we would have seen this. This was a complete accident, Right,
That's how it went. That's how Brady's career went. This
wasn't oh rookie, he comes in like Sunday, We're gonna
get him a job, like he's Jaydon Daniels and he taken. No,
that's not how it went at all.

Speaker 5 (07:57):
It's crazy to think accident is a good way to
put it, because this was never the plan.

Speaker 4 (08:01):
Patriots didn't have a plan for him, that's the whole thing.

Speaker 5 (08:05):
And for him to yes, take advantage of the opportunity
because obviously he delivered.

Speaker 4 (08:09):
He could have not delivered and he wouldn't.

Speaker 5 (08:11):
Be Tom Brady the goat, Right, But it is crazy
to think that his career did start accidentally.

Speaker 4 (08:18):
Now it started that way.

Speaker 5 (08:20):
He actually delivered, so right, It's like, it's not that
his career, his accolades and.

Speaker 4 (08:25):
Everything he's done as an accident. It's just the start
of it was an accident.

Speaker 5 (08:28):
And it's really crazy to think of it like that
that you weren't really even planned b or see.

Speaker 1 (08:33):
Yeah, no, no, no, no, you were just the guy. You
were just the guy you were, You were just a guy.

Speaker 4 (08:37):
You were just there for because they had to fill
a spot in case.

Speaker 5 (08:40):
But like there was no plan for him, no plan,
and then all of a sudden he.

Speaker 4 (08:44):
Was the plan.

Speaker 1 (08:45):
Yeah, and he was good at Michigan, right, He went
back and forth. Drew Henson was the guy that was
supposed to be the next great quarterback at Michigan, but
he couldn't really win the job. He wound up leaving
to go play baseball after a couple of years. And
Brady had a good career, He had a good but
here you end of the sixth round, and it's not
like he all of a sudden played his way up
into be He probably played his way up into being Okay,

(09:06):
if he's got a play, this is our backup. Like
that's as far as it went from me. But there
was no big plan saying, oh suddenly we're because you
don't walk away from ten years that you just gave him.
It's not like it was in the middle of they
just gave it to him before they said okay. But
the interesting thing to me when I think about this,
Jason Smith, Monty Belania's Fox Sports Radio, the thing I

(09:26):
think about is that everybody gets to the NFL, and
every other position eventually gets a chance to be on
the field and show what you can do. Right. So,
if you're a defensive back and you're taking in the
fourth round, right, you're gonna get on the field. You're
gonna get a chance to play. You'll get to impress
the coaches. Maybe it takes a little bit of time,
but you work your way from being a special teams player. Hey,

(09:47):
now you get on the field in dime packages. Now
you're the slot corner. Wait and after three years, whoa,
this guy's one of the best shutdown corners in the game. Like,
it doesn't matter where you get in the league, you
will get on the field and play and have a
chance to prove yourself every position except for quarterback, right,
because if here's Tom Brady and if Moe Lewis doesn't
run into Drew Bledsoe and knock him silly, because that

(10:10):
figures the Jets are the ones who responsible for the
Tom Brady era. Like we may never see Brady's career,
and it makes you think of how many quarterbacks that
come out of the draft that either never get a
chance or don't get in the right system and we
don't see their career. Right, Like Gino Smith now is
going to make two hundred and fifty million dollars the
last five years of his career because hey, he bounced

(10:33):
around for a decade, they couldn't find the right fit
form and suddenly, whoa, look here it is after a decade.
It works in Seattle. You get paid now, you get
paid again when you go to Vegas. Same thing for
Sam Darnold. You were on four teams and you couldn't
do it for any of them, but whoa, hey, we
finally got you in the right position with Minnesota and
now three years, one hundred and ten million dollar contract
to go be the quarterback of the Seahawks. So you

(10:54):
have guys that bounce around that need to get in
that system. You also have guys that you never know
because they never get on the field, Like could Josh
Rosen have had a great career at some point because
if he found a way to get on the field
where the coach like, there's so many guys you go
because Brady was a sixth rounder. He was an afterthought.
And guys get taken like that all the time, and
they cycle in and out of the league, and they

(11:15):
wind up on a team and you're the third string
for a year or two and then somebody else gets drafted,
you don't move along as what they think you are,
and they're not gonna keep you on. They're not gonna
pay you more Like how many careers we miss out
on of quarterbacks because they just don't get a chance
to get on the field too bad.

Speaker 4 (11:29):
We'll never really know it, will never know that answer.

Speaker 5 (11:32):
But that's the other side of it, right, It's like
Tom Brady fell into a situation where he also had
Bill Belichick as a coach.

Speaker 4 (11:39):
That's the other side of the situation.

Speaker 5 (11:41):
Wasn't just him somebody getting hurt and him stepping in
at the moment. You were also in a really good
organization to have that opportunity, because we've seen other players
step in but they're not in a good situation and
they can't thrive. And we won't know really how many
backups in quarterbacks, because you're right, other positions, you almost
get like a fair shot at showing your skills. It

(12:01):
may take time, like you said, but you're gonna get
to show off your skills and it's gonna be noticed
by somebody. Right With quarterbacks, how many of them just
sit there and never ever get an opportunity, Or how
about a quarterback that does get the opportunity, and then
it's behind a terrible o line or behind a terrible
organization and they actually can't thrive.

Speaker 4 (12:21):
It just there's so many things that have to go right.

Speaker 5 (12:24):
It seems like when it comes to finding these not
good quarterbacks but great quarterbacks like you, you can be good,
but part of a great organization, and then all of
a sudden you're great.

Speaker 4 (12:35):
Yeah, right, And so it's just it's sad.

Speaker 1 (12:37):
It's sad well because there's no way to really think
yourself into the field. Like you can play other positions
during during training camp, during the preseason, you can play
your way onto the field. But a quarterback unless you
see them do it when the footballs fly for real.
You could be the best August quarterback in the game. Hey, hey,
in August started three games through nine touchdowns. But are

(13:00):
they gonna trust you to be on the field.

Speaker 2 (13:01):
No.

Speaker 1 (13:02):
You only get on the field if something happens to
the guy in front of you, if he doesn't play
very well, if he gets injured. That's how you need
to get on that's your break. You need to get
on the field. You can do everything you need to
do as a quarterback, but unless you get a chance
to do it on the field over a period of time,
like that's gonna be it, Like you're never gonna get
a shot.

Speaker 5 (13:19):
Yeah, And when you sent this over, when I started thinking,
I was like, is there a quarterback?

Speaker 4 (13:24):
I'm thinking that like maybe could have been done more.

Speaker 1 (13:27):
No, you know why because you don't know, because you
don't know who they are.

Speaker 5 (13:30):
There could be anybody, right, because the story is that
he was a backup and came off the bench because
I was you know, I instantly did think of Andrew Luck,
which is not a perfect example, but I do feel
like Andrew Luck because he was not part of a
good organization that took care of him. He ended his
career because he got hit too many times. He was like,
I'm tired of this, these hurts. I don't want to
do it like he Who knows if he would have

(13:50):
been part of a different organization what Andrew Luck would
be today.

Speaker 1 (13:54):
Oh, the rest of his career, the rest played past
the age of thirty.

Speaker 5 (13:58):
Absolutely, But that's not the right example because again Tom
Brady was an afterthought.

Speaker 4 (14:04):
It was a backup. He was not supposed to be
playing when Andrew Look was a starter. So I really
couldn't think of one, and like you said.

Speaker 1 (14:09):
You don't see them.

Speaker 4 (14:10):
It's impossible to figure out which backup is actually a
hidden gem that has just never been given the opportunity.

Speaker 1 (14:16):
The only place that happens is on the internet, where
we need this guy needs to start. I saw him
in seven on seven yesterday in the morning, and he
was fifteen out of eighteen and two touchdowns. Like, yeah,
that's great. Yeah, that's the only place backup quarterbacks can
thrive is on the internet. Because I hate the guy
we have, I love the guy behind us. That's the
only place.

Speaker 5 (14:36):
I guess.

Speaker 4 (14:37):
That's so true. That's so true.

Speaker 5 (14:39):
But yeah, you only really get to see a real
quarterbacks play in live games, not at practice.

Speaker 4 (14:45):
Practice is not the same.

Speaker 1 (14:46):
The accidental Tom Brady's career we saw by accident.

Speaker 4 (14:50):
By accident.

Speaker 1 (14:51):
That I know.

Speaker 4 (14:52):
That's crazy.

Speaker 1 (14:53):
Fox Sports Radio, Jason Smith, Moncie, Belogos, Monci I know.
I know there's no trending right now, because but I
want to let you know be I'm living and dying
with this game right now being my surprise team to
come out of the playing round in the West. How
are things going for the Mavericks at halftime against the Kings.

Speaker 5 (15:10):
Well, let me tell you, they scored forty four points
in the second quarter compared to the King's nineteen points,
so at halftime they're up seventy one to forty eight.

Speaker 1 (15:18):
My Mavericks not too shaicks, Mavericks, Maverick.

Speaker 5 (15:22):
And like you said, you know, we talked to Anthony Davis,
had to be the guy, but he's not doing too shabby.

Speaker 4 (15:26):
It's Klay Thompson right now is the leader who scorer.

Speaker 1 (15:28):
Well, eighty eighty had seven in the last few minutes,
so he's up to twelve and five. But look at
look at the.

Speaker 4 (15:32):
Map, Look at the map.

Speaker 1 (15:33):
Look at my man, my mask. Nico Harrison right now,
he's pouring champagne down his throat right now, going this
could be as good as against Right now.

Speaker 5 (15:41):
He is actually sitting in the arena, not hiding in
the halls.

Speaker 4 (15:45):
Did you see.

Speaker 1 (15:46):
Yeah, yeah, Well because he's on the road, right he's
on the road. No one cares. They all love me
here because I play Luca.

Speaker 5 (15:52):
When in reality everybody's looking at him with the side eye,
like is that.

Speaker 4 (15:56):
The guy who traded Luca? Donch Oh my god.

Speaker 1 (15:59):
Let's hid fire, you know, why not? Let's do it exit.
How about a Fresca exit Monty Blago's Jason Smith Monsey
in from Mike Harmon tonight. Coming up next, we got
more NFL. Did we just find out who's going number
one overall? Because of what the guy who could be
going number one overall said? Well, that's straight ahead right here,
Jason Smith, Monty Blogios, Fox Sports Radio.

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the top of the screen, so lock it in and
rip the knob off. So halftime things look great for
the Mavericks. Yeah, baby, as good as it gets. What
about the NFL draft big drama today?

Speaker 2 (17:11):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (17:12):
Cam Ward is asked about who his favorite receivers and
running backs are in the NFL. Who are the best
running backs receivers? And he says the two guys that
Titans have and two guys that Titans have both positions
and wide receiver and running back. So I think he
knows where he's going in the draft. Joining us now
on the hotline. Nobody better to break it down. Longtime
NFL insider check him out a thirty third team on

(17:35):
Twitter at Jason Cole sixty two graduate of the incredible
institution that is Stanford University. It is Jason Cole. What's
happening man.

Speaker 2 (17:52):
In the ac? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (17:54):
Okay, it's good.

Speaker 2 (17:55):
Yeah, that's Good's very good. You know, and we know
who where we're certain family members stand in that one.
So there you go.

Speaker 1 (18:03):
Sure, sure, And you have Andrew Luck who could be
the quarterback and run the football program.

Speaker 2 (18:09):
Uh, you may need that. That's quite desperately as a
matter of fact, all right, So uh, and you know
nothing wrong with you know, in the m I L atmosphere,
you know, paying a guy who's a grad student. We

(18:29):
can do that.

Speaker 1 (18:30):
Yeah, well, I'm sure. I'm sure they're still paying him
for money. Was there? You know, it's like, we're going
to keep your payments going. If that's okay by.

Speaker 2 (18:36):
You, anybody deserves it certainly answered.

Speaker 1 (18:42):
All right, So speaking of the draft here, you know,
we saw today cam Ward goes on a live stream
playing video games and has said, Hey, who are the
best running backs in the game? And he said Tony
Pollard and spears? All right, who's the best wide receiver?
He said, Calvin Ridley and also yeah, well yeah, Justin
Jeffers is good too, but Trey Burks is really good too.
So I'm pretty sure he's going to the Titans with

(19:04):
the number one pick.

Speaker 2 (19:05):
Now, well, I'm sure that they wants to go to
the Titans with more overall pick. I do have to
I have to wonder about his analysis of NFL personnel
when he says, get to the best in the league.
But yeah, I get how's he supposed to answer that question?
I I you know, I just don't. I don't quite

(19:27):
get it. I still think Tennessee is sitting there going, hey,
does somebody wants to pick? That's that is the overarching
you gut feeling I get every time the Titans talk
about quarterback is like they're really trying to sell the

(19:50):
idea that oh, we really really like this guy, but
well somebody came get him, anybody really wants him like that.
That's like they really want to try, and I just
don't think it's going to happen, because I think that
the conclusion is that, yeah, these says are all right,

(20:10):
but it really is like the EJ Manual GINO smithscraft
where they're just not that good, but kind of thing
may be forced into take in the quarterback because they
don't like the other options are not overwhelming.

Speaker 1 (20:24):
Wow, So who's who's coming up then to number one
that's going to say, hey, oh yeah, we want that pick.

Speaker 2 (20:30):
I don't think there's anybody. I think that people are like, Okay,
if the quarterbacks fall to us and we'd like them enough, okay,
maybe we'll think about it. But we're not paying the
kind of freight that it costs to get up to
number one, you know, like the usual packaging can't flee
number ones and the number two and a number three,

(20:51):
you know, something like that. We're just not doing that
for a guy like cam Work. We're just not that
would have it would have been on probably weeks ago
if anybody was that desperate to go get this guy,
because you remember back to you know, the year like
Goss then when when Doff came out. There's a couple
other times when teams desperately wanted a quarterback, they made

(21:14):
the decision early to go up and go get him
and to the clear. So Tennessee basically doesn't have any
suitors who realistically want them to go get the number
one overall picks because they're looking at Camward going yeah,
he's kind of cool like that, and that's it like that, Yeah,
if you want to take them, great, you leave them

(21:37):
for us. Okay, we'll think about it. But he's not overwhelming.
None of these quarterbacks are. And that's the problem with
this year's draft.

Speaker 4 (21:46):
Hey, Jason, hope you're having a good and night.

Speaker 5 (21:49):
No team is desperate for a quarterback, but maybe the
Saints feel a little bit desperate now that there's so
many questions surrounding Derek Carr. You think they just hang
with the ninth pick and hope that there's a quarterback.

Speaker 4 (22:01):
But what if both quarterbacks go early? What if you door.
Sanders and Camralard both go early.

Speaker 2 (22:06):
Look, I think Orlans realizes they're in teardown load, and
it's like, okay, let's we're gonna tear this thing down
to the studs. Let's not worry too much about it. Again.
If the quarterback is there and we happen to like them, okay,
we'll give it a shot. But but we have so

(22:29):
much to fix because our is so out of control
that we're just in the position to take the best
player and the accumulate the most picks, and we're going
to be trading guys off anyways that we can take.
You know, this is like they're They're like a high
school student that decides, yeah, maybe I should just take

(22:52):
a gap here there and gap year status.

Speaker 1 (23:00):
If the Saints are in gap year status, what are
the Jets in a gap decade?

Speaker 2 (23:03):
What do they? What are they? They call it a
gap hera. So yeah, it's like that you get you
get thirty years off.

Speaker 1 (23:17):
Okay, because that makes sense, that makes sense. We're just weird.
We're still finding out who we are. We're trying to
figure out I don't know who I am. I got
to figure out that my identity, what kind of person
I want to be, what kind of team I want.

Speaker 2 (23:27):
To be sure by the team? In ninety nine, ninety eight,
that's when that's when the gap era started.

Speaker 1 (23:36):
No, wait, now we went to back to back AFC
title games in twenty ten and twenty eleven. I want
to say it started, like you know in twenty twelve,
you got.

Speaker 2 (23:46):
A little exception there with with Yeah, with with with Ryan, Yeah,
you got a couple of years you get the stanchise,
Like nobody defines the whole concept of the gap era,

(24:06):
and sanchise, doesn't it? Like that really stranchise, Like even
when he does games now it's like, oh, man, I
did this. That was cool, Like I did I played
in the NFL. Let me talk tell you about because

(24:27):
it was so cool. Like he really was the gap
era guy for the Jets. He defines the whole gap era.

Speaker 1 (24:36):
All right, now, let me ask you the speaking of
the Jets. This is something that's been a topic of
conversation now the last couple of days. So next week
NFL Draft. You know, we have our normal show here
on the NFL Draft. We are it on Fox, Jay
Glazer and Jenny Taff and LeVar Arrington And usually we
have a GM comes in too and does the first
round of the draft. This year, Joe Douglas is going
to be here, like what like what what? What do

(24:57):
you thought? I don't know how I should act. I
don't know what I should say? Well what should I do?

Speaker 2 (25:03):
Wow? This this is troubling. I mean like this is
a servant out of my variant. Yeah, you do you
like do you do you make a couple of snarky
remarks along the way and hold out until the end
and then just kind of unload and you have this
term of gestalt moment? I mean, is it is it

(25:25):
really like that, like where you just let it all
go and get that out or do you act professional?
And because that's tough for you, said.

Speaker 1 (25:40):
I should I should ask him to autograph a lot
of stuff. Maybe maybe I wear a throwback jersey into
the show on Thursday.

Speaker 2 (25:48):
Well you know you got to read you read this,
you can do the jersey, especially the previous the final
year that was that was that was classic.

Speaker 1 (26:01):
I'll never forget you were the guy that told me
it's not going to be the same. It's not going
to be the same. Trust me, it's not going to
be the same, like, yeah, what do you know he's
the best defensive back I've ever seen. Oh no, he
just took the money. Okay, all right, great.

Speaker 2 (26:13):
Okay, catch out. It's yes. I remember being in in
his agent's apartment when he got that deal done and
it was like cash stop many Yeah, Like it was
just like okay, that's all your that's all your. I mean,
you had a charge to tlain foot plan for the

(26:35):
Patriots and trying to win another championship or go back
to New York because you wanted to go have some
more fun. And he went back to New York because
you just wanted to have fun, that's what you And
you said all the right things, but you just wanted
to go back to New York. That's all you wanted
to do.

Speaker 1 (26:53):
Yeah, just like just like you and I, I'd love
to go back to college. I want to go out
there and have some of those days.

Speaker 2 (27:00):
Sure, but it's not going back to New York to
go play for the Jets. It's going back to New
York because you like to hang out in like sopo,
Like that's what you want to do. That's not it's
not about us all. That's the whole time.

Speaker 1 (27:15):
He's on Twitter at Jason Cole sixty two. That is,
at Jason Cole sixty two. Check him out thirty thirteen
and again and again. Alumni of Stanford University, Jake Cole,
take it easy, buddy, We'll talk to you next week.
All right, there, he goes, I'll never forget this, Montzie,

(27:37):
because when when when Durell Reevis was when he came
back to the Jets the second times on the cover
of Sports Illustrated, everything was great. I'll never forget. Jason
Cole comes on the show and we talked about you.
He goes, Okay, I'm gonna tell you something that's You're
not gonna make you happy. Goddy goes, I don't think
you're gonna see the same Revis. I said. Why he
goes up. I know a lot of people, people I
talk to I trust, saying he's not working out as hard,

(27:58):
He's not going to be the same guy. Just watch John.
I'm like, no, come on, tell me, tell me that
is the best. He's all I have. And sure enough
he was terrible and he was done, and it was
I got the money and he and he was finished.

Speaker 4 (28:12):
It That sucks. I'm sorry.

Speaker 5 (28:14):
I was glad to hear what he said about the
Saints because I told Carrie Rhodes that the Saints just
need to be like, Okay, we're just gonna go through
the year, you know, Like I know, I know, you
don't want to admit that you're not going to win
to your fans, but there's you have so many things
to fix. Their dead cap hit is like over fifty million,
and I was like, a quarterback's not going to change
the Saints.

Speaker 4 (28:33):
You know, they're not one quarterback away. And carr Roads
was like, no, you can't do that.

Speaker 1 (28:37):
You gotta so I've done that.

Speaker 5 (28:39):
He kind of said that there's a gap year because
that's what it's like, a gap heer, That's what I
was thinking the Saints should do.

Speaker 4 (28:45):
So I'm glad to hear that.

Speaker 1 (28:46):
Sorry, Bree, who's filling in for Justin tonight is a
Saints fan. Yeah, okay, I have good news for you though,
because of all that. Well, now that cam Ward basically
was asked who your favorite receivers and running backs already
mentioned everybody on the Titan Okay, uh, you know he's
going number one overall. The next guarantee that I have
for you quarterback wise that I feel the best about

(29:07):
the next guarantee. At number nine, the Saints will take
Jackson Dart Jackson because he's it's insane. It's in a
no man's land where, okay, you know, Sanders will probably
be off the board even if he is. They have
spent so much time with Jackson Dart over the course
of the past couple of months, and he's the quarterback
that's rising. The Mississippi to New Orleans pipeline has been
very popular in the past. It'll it'll win the fans,

(29:29):
it'll it'll win the organization that they have a quarterback
they're able to draft and look at quarterback's got to
be a gut feel, and you got to understand that
maybe it works, maybe it doesn't, but you're gonna have
that that third best quarterback sitting there, and no one's
gonna jump up ahead of you to draft him. And
behind him, there's too many teams, there's too many, too
far for them to go up to come up to
get him. So the Saints are kind of in that
sweet spot there at nine. I get they're hoping and

(29:52):
they're not you know, tipping their hand at all, because
you got to have eight picks go in front of you.
But I'm gonna I could guarantee you Jackson Dart at
nine to the Saints. That's gonna happen.

Speaker 5 (30:00):
Do you think if Shador is available at that point,
you think they take Jackson?

Speaker 1 (30:05):
Yeah, because they spend so much time with him. It's like, boy,
Schador is here, and do we take him because of
the draft stock we were supposed to go. It's like,
you spend all this time with jack he was your guy, right,
he's your guy. They'll take Jackson Dark, They'll take Dark.

Speaker 4 (30:18):
Yeah, that's interesting.

Speaker 8 (30:20):
She hates therek car So I do you love Sencer
Rattler though? So, I mean the gappier thing.

Speaker 4 (30:25):
I'm not a guy.

Speaker 1 (30:26):
Okay, I'm tell you that Spencer Ratler's not having Spencer
Rattler is not.

Speaker 8 (30:31):
But if we defend the tackle at nine and then
just rode it out and maybe got Kyle mccor like
in the second.

Speaker 1 (30:36):
Round, well I be pro bowler. But you just said
you just said Spencer Rattler, Like, you.

Speaker 8 (30:41):
Know, I have a T shirt, Jason, I'm not gonna lie.

Speaker 1 (30:45):
He's not gonna be good just because you have a
T shirt. If that was the case, the Metch won
eight World Series in a row.

Speaker 8 (30:51):
Well, if I get to make cal Bridges white Nicked jersey,
like I really want to.

Speaker 1 (30:55):
Okay, there we go. All right, okay, wow, really that's fast.
Really get gift.

Speaker 4 (31:05):
Card from Kevin Fickers. I should probably get it. Get
a shirt. You don't think I have look good in
a jersey I just had sent and had to lose
a guy intended.

Speaker 2 (31:12):
That's not it.

Speaker 4 (31:13):
But you're not a Knicks fan.

Speaker 1 (31:15):
I'm not so I think, like, but you're a Sons fan, which, okay,
you should be a Knicks fan over that, I kinda
should be fair fair.

Speaker 5 (31:21):
But I have it, Like, I'm all for you wearing
players that are not on your team, like jerseys, but
not a jersey because that's not your team.

Speaker 4 (31:29):
So I'll only wear jerseys of the Clippers. But I
have a Jimmy Butler Miami shirt.

Speaker 5 (31:34):
You know what I mean?

Speaker 1 (31:34):
Why do you have it if you're not going to
wear it?

Speaker 4 (31:36):
No, I wear it, but it's not a jersey, That's
what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (31:38):
You have the Jimmy Butler shirt.

Speaker 4 (31:40):
I had like a graphic T shirt him and it's Miami.

Speaker 1 (31:44):
The giveaway had the pepsi logo on the side.

Speaker 2 (31:46):
Right.

Speaker 1 (31:47):
Oh, no, a real one. I've purchased that Jimmy Buckets
when Office Christmas Party came out December ninth, the theater
near you with the picture Jimmy Buckets taking a shot.

Speaker 4 (31:57):
No, I paid for it, Thank you for ever twenty one?

Speaker 1 (32:00):
All right, ah, you know paying for it right now?
Are the Sacramento Kings. Monzi Bolanos has details on that
more with What's trending Nice.

Speaker 5 (32:09):
Yeah, the Dallas Mavericks really kind of cruising along here
against the Kings. Eighty to sixty is a score halfway
through the third quarter. Anthony Davis now the leading scorer
of the game.

Speaker 4 (32:20):
He is still six to fifteen.

Speaker 5 (32:21):
Started off rough, but nineteen points, five rebounds, and again
MAVs are up by twenty halfway through the third quarter
in this play in out of the Western Conference. Earlier today,
the Heat defeated the Bulls one O nine to ninety
in their playing out of the Eastern Conference. Tyler Hero
started a for eight literally denomius a shot until the
second half ended with thirty eight points. Miami's still not done.

(32:43):
They have to face Atlanta on Friday for the eighth
seed in the Eastern Conference. One game going on in
Major League Baseball, Rockies Dodgers in LA. Rockies with a
grand slam, but Dodgers are still up seven to six.
Shoho Tawny homer followed by a Freddie Freeman hoomer. It's
the bottom of the fourth again in LA. Earlier today
in Baseball, Jackson Holliday hit a grand slam and the

(33:05):
Orioles crushed the Guardians nine to one.

Speaker 4 (33:08):
Early earlier in.

Speaker 5 (33:09):
Today's Baseball World, the Jays defeat The Blue Jays defeated
the Atlanta Braves three to one. Five Toronto pitchers combined
to set a franchise record for a nine inning game
nineteen strikeouts, including ten and five innings by starter Chris Bassett.

Speaker 4 (33:23):
Not too shabby.

Speaker 5 (33:25):
The Mariners beat the Reds five to three. The Nationals
lost to the Pirates six to one. O'Neil Cruz his
first grand slam of his career in that one. The
Giants outscored the Phillies eleven to four. San Francisco thirteen
and five on the season, Aaron Judge with the homer
number seven on the season, and they beat the Royals
for three to complete a three game sweep, and the
Angels seem to be coming back.

Speaker 4 (33:46):
Down to reality. They had a hot start, yeah, but seems.

Speaker 5 (33:51):
That, you know, things are going back to normal. They
lost again today to the Rangers three to one. They're
They're still about five hundred and nine eight though, nine
and eight, so not not too shabby, not too shabby.

Speaker 1 (34:03):
Thanks a bunch mon Chess coming up next. Boy, if
you thought that Shador Sanders was full of confidence about
how he can turn a franchise around, he's got nothing
on the open letter that was just written to all
thirty two NFL teams by one of the biggest high
profile players in the draft. That's next right here, Jason Smith.

(34:23):
Monzie Bologno is in for Mike Harmon Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 3 (34:26):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven
pm Pacific.

Speaker 1 (34:33):
Fox Sports Radio The Jason Smith Show with Mike Harmon.
Monzie Bologno's in for Harmon tonight. We'll have more on
the final playing game coming up in a few minutes.
Frock Purple. So it's a twenty one point lead for
the Mavericks right now, eighty nine sixty eight over the Kings.
Things are phenomenal for my Mavericks. But you know, Shador

(34:56):
Sanders Montsi's been getting a lot of attention for being
cocky and arrogant. I'm great and I can do gut it.
That's nothing on what Ashton Genty had and what he
put out today in a letter, in an open letter
on the athletic to all thirty two NFL teams. Right,
this is a guy who we thought was on pace.
Rotis at the all time rushing record in college football.

(35:18):
He's the best running back in the draft. He's gonna
go very high. He sent a very short statement to
general managers and this is what he said. I've taken
the long way. I'm done with that way. If you
pick me, it's simple. I'm coming to your franchise to
do what Saquon and the Eagles just did. I'm coming
to win big soon. It's tackle football. You know what

(35:41):
I'm saying. I draft the guy they can't tackle. Thank
you for your time, Ashton Genty. I mean, what a
great moment tackle football draft someone they can't tackle. Ashton Genty.

Speaker 4 (35:52):
I saw it and I was like, okay, listen, I
have no problem with it.

Speaker 5 (35:56):
I maybe would have left the Saguon Barkley Eagle his
line out because now, now.

Speaker 4 (36:04):
That's what you have to deliver. Now, there's gonna be
people specifically you have said.

Speaker 1 (36:09):
Well, no, no, what he's what he's got to do
is have a good rookie year, then be hurt for
a long time, and then have his team say yeah,
we don't want you. Then he goes to a new
team and wins a super Bowl. That's it. He's got
five years to make good on that. Now, he's got
plenty of time.

Speaker 4 (36:22):
But he didn't.

Speaker 5 (36:23):
He didn't say I'm here to do with what Sequon
Barkley did over the five years. He specifically mentioned the
Eagles in last year, I probably would have left that
line out.

Speaker 4 (36:31):
But he's he's mad that he didn't win that Heisman.
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 5 (36:35):
He's he's like, I'm gonna I'm gonna talk my ish
now says nobody wants to talk about me, I might
as well talk about me.

Speaker 2 (36:41):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (36:42):
I know here, see I take a different angle of
the Only thing I would say is that, Wow, you've
just given every defender ammo to say, oh, can't tackle you. Huh, okay, okay,
You're not. You're not playing Washington State. Okay, this is
not You're not you're not going into Oregon State. You're
not playing in core Vallis. Okay, this is the NFL.
We'll see, We'll see you asked in genty. We'll see. Okay,

(37:03):
we can't tackle you because I guarantee you the first
time that happens, the first in a game where you're
not in the preseason, but the first time and he
gets stuffed, A defensive tackle just falls on him and says,
can't tackle you.

Speaker 4 (37:15):
Yeah, would would say, And he's going, I.

Speaker 3 (37:18):
Can't, I can't move.

Speaker 5 (37:21):
He's as Diana Tarassi said, is he in for a
root awakening?

Speaker 1 (37:26):
Boy? These guys are a lot faster than the NFL.

Speaker 2 (37:28):
Big.

Speaker 1 (37:29):
I can't turn the corner like I used to in college.
That's amazing. That was Reggie Bush's thing. Oh I'm going
to the house on every play, dude. No, no, no, no,
you're not.

Speaker 4 (37:37):
You're about to compete with men.

Speaker 1 (37:39):
No you're not. Oh boy. You know, usually when I
get to the corner, like there's nobody else there and
I'm running like now, I get to the corner and
there's like four or five guys there. Ready yeah, wow,
what do I do? But I guarantee you that he
is absolutely going in the top ten. If he makes
it out of the top seven, I'll be surprised because
he is that. He is that net because now things

(38:01):
coming back to the running back a little bit now,
especially after what Barkley did last year. The running back
was a get by position for a long time, and
teams would take the attitude of Okay, well, we don't
need a big bell coal. We need a couple of
good players, maybe one that can catch the ball in
the backfield. We can get by. But now, oh wait
a minute, you can ride a running back much more.
We still have to have the talent around you. Okay.

(38:21):
And it's a very big running back heavy draft. He
us a couple of guys going to go in the
first round. I think a Marion Hanpton's gonna go in
the first round too. He's almost a lock to go.
But genty, if he makes it out of the top seven,
I'll be stunned because this will be Hey, we can
take care of a position, and he's going to catch
the ball out of the backfield as well. He's the
next great superstar. He's going really early.

Speaker 5 (38:40):
Yeah, the projections I've seen. I think a lot of
people think the Raiders take him at six. I think
that is what I've seen them all.

Speaker 1 (38:47):
That's a great pot. That's a great pick, are you finn, Yeah.

Speaker 4 (38:49):
That would be really great for them.

Speaker 5 (38:51):
Imagine adding that to already a brock Bauer situation.

Speaker 1 (38:56):
Oh no, no, see, I want them to draft Ty Warrens.
They could have brock Bowers and Michael Mayor and Ty
Warren get three years in a row. Three tight ends
in the first round. Let's do it. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (39:05):
Who doesn't want three tight ends on their roster.

Speaker 1 (39:07):
That means we're gonna run the football. We got three
tight ends. We're gonna run the football a lot.

Speaker 4 (39:10):
Exactly exactly. I hear what you're saying, but I didn't
mind it. I did not mind the statement, even though
it is putting a target on his back.

Speaker 1 (39:18):
Yeah, for sure, it's great statement. Remember week one, everybody's
gonna remember everybody first Hut, They're gonna come out to
the line of scrimmage and the guys are gonna go,
can't tackle you. Huh, can't tackle.

Speaker 4 (39:28):
I was like, oh, hey, you know it's gonna be
a story. In his first game, he was tackled X amount.

Speaker 1 (39:35):
Of times twelve times for a loss.

Speaker 4 (39:37):
That was good. Do you want to give him a number?

Speaker 1 (39:39):
As Jack, you're writing check sun your body can't catch.
That's a lot. But I know I love the fourth rightness,
I love the attitude. He's a great, great player.

Speaker 2 (39:48):
Man.

Speaker 1 (39:49):
That'd be a phenomenal pick for the rece. Look at
things everything coming up. Raiders. They they hired the right
head Chach, they got a quarterback. Now the Raiders are
doing things right.

Speaker 4 (39:56):
They're trying.

Speaker 1 (39:57):
It's insane.

Speaker 4 (39:58):
Yeah, they gotta change the culture there.

Speaker 1 (40:01):
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